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with our agenda. We may have to pause again. Thank you so much for bearing with us. We're going to do our land acknowledgement next. Uh we honor and acknowledge the Massachusetts, Penuk, and Pucket peoples whose ancestral lands we now call home and on which we gather today. We express gratitude to the
indigenous peoples who have cared for this land for generations by the European colonization and continuing to the present. Moving forward, we are committed to ensuring that the histories, voices, and contributions of indigenous peoples are recognized and respected in the life of our city.
That's the [Music] here. Okay. Under the provisions of the open meeting law, for those of you in attendance, please be informed that UMA Urban Media Arts will be recording this evening's meeting. So, just to be aware, there will be audio and video recordings
of this meeting. First order of business is public comment. Public comment is allowed under council rules. Each speaker is limited to subject matter relevant to the evening's agenda and must keep their comments to two minutes or less. Do we have anybody signed up for public comment today? No, we do not.
Do we have any email comments? Not for public comment. Okay, thank you. Uh, next order of business. Next order of business is the consent agenda. Consent agenda tonight consists of meeting minutes to be approved. One appointment to be referred to personnel,
three appointments to be placed on file, and 11 petitions to be referred to the license committee. Does any counselor have a desire to remove any of these items from the consent agenda for the purpose of further discussion? All right. Hearing none and seeing none, do I have a motion to approve the
consent agenda? I have a motion by councelor SA, seconded by councelor Simonelli. All in favor I vote. All in favor the agenda is approved. Next order of business. [Music]
Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] No, I I think we just need to we do need to move forward. I'm going to going to stay for folks watching our team and
just remind everybody if you're streaming on on cable and on YouTube. So if you're experiencing the audio issues, I think you won't have that if you switch to YouTube or to email. So maybe try that. I'm so sorry for the issues that we're having tonight. We're really
doing our best, but I don't want to delay Nate's presentation and our ability to discuss um this really important agenda item. So Nate, you have the floor. Thank you. Just for clarification using this video that microphone. Yes.
[Music] Hello again. This place is [Music] presentation. [Music] So what the minimum residential factor is
is shift shift. We got a single tax [Music] range of $96. [Laughter]
something. Um, so the time frame we're discussing tonight So these fiscal 26 this is the natural fiscal 26 in the time frame to return these values is calendar.
This is just a little grass. [Laughter] Um, so this page is not refer minimum
residential factor options with a 30% resial exemption. So, one thing the residential exemption does is increase the resial tax rate. Um, so you can see there that with a MRF of
one, we still wouldn't have a single tax because we haven't [Music] the full shift. 17. These numbers continue.
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265. [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] Less than 24. [Music]
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[Music] that's down and down on the line. In fact, there are a handful of condos that
so much they're required to pay. [Music] So, and then as the buildings get bigger, so benefits.
163 families, 486, 9 plus units, which is everything. Stop. [Music]
Just Just So they're trying to understand why. So so even if you're owner occupied at one of these residential units, your tax bills
in China benefit would not be there. And that's because in order to pay for the residential exemption, you have to increase the tax rates and then the reduction.
So if the directions which is why I was trying to figure out why is the benefits [Music]
tax rate [Music] so So beautiful. [Laughter] [Music]
understood because I was what I was been trying to figure out is why would why would there not be a benefit to your occupied properties and I the realization is because in order to pay for those you have to have a higher tax
cost so this should They still get it. But as you approach the certain value [Music] to a low community, right? I just want to underline that because I think that's a
question I get a lot too. Nobody is rejected from it because of my value. Everybody gets it but it diminishes if their value is so high that it doesn't affect them. It's not that it's not like you get an application and say, "Oh,
your house is worth $1.4 million. We don't get it." It's still applied. It just essentially doesn't make sense. Correct. Not that it doesn't make sense. Right. It doesn't it'll get you.
Okay. I just want to make sure cuz I think that is a question that's starting to come in a little bit more even though it's it's so few properties. I think because we've been talking about it a lot more, there's folks that are thinking, "Oh, my my property might be close to that amount. I shouldn't even apply it." And we do not want that message.
And I love this table. It says 30% of the time. These numbers don't change. point about this. [Music] A lot of other soil.
[Music] really benefits. [Music] This is the difference between average
value of 525 and 626 307. [Music]
It's just like [Laughter] [Music]
[Laughter] [Music] Do you have questions about the um yeah sort of shocking tax bill
like two and a half times our tax bill despite having like half the tax rate in Asia. the land is just like um freaking consumed right I mean I believe it it's it is wild though so can can you just clarify for
me the reason Chelsea's in ultimately end up with lower tax is that because your commercial and industrial property base is so large that the tax shift leaves that much more burden on the residential
like it's proportionally so large compared to their resident this other [Music]
[Music] thing. Yeah, Chelsea is not on. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate this for the first time. I appreciate that. I appreciate my colleagues
discuss this. I would just say, you know, the first thing I was talking is everybody in that list has been. But I also found it interesting just a point. I know we've talked about this before. If the state ever allowed us to to tax commercial residential
apartments, whatever the definition you want to call it, 30 more, 40 more, 50 more, we would not be in a different discussion right now, right? Um, I say that because there's a paper right now
in Boston for to tax 30 or more units, additional 10% of what you're seeing as Boston tax to make up for the So you're trying to shift the burden like everybody else is to a more commercial space and realizing that if you have a
30 you have a building has 30 apartments and then you build a building right next to it that has 30 you know like we work scenarios you are paying more money uh for the we work space with you know your tax rate for that residential is so
much dramatically lower and more than a 58% difference between commercial. I was trying to impress you because I knew the number. But but my point is it's it's it's a math problem that everybody's trying to figure out, right?
Uh and we even we heard it before and I went to talk about this new funding formula town of Tofield having the same challenge. They got 6,000 residents in zero commercial space. So everybody's in this conundrum right now and you got to find that balance. But I'm glad to see
Blossom 35. I think we deserve to be a 35. I think the city need of of Dallas in terms of shifting that and right now it gives us kind of pretend I was great by shifting it. Um and I'm going to watch the president
[Music] that we do that that gives us some some amateur. Appreciate it. Thank you. So yes, and I just I I do really want to make sure that we get to the theory. So I want to make sure that we are focusing on questions to clarify Nate's
presentation, not commenting on the council. I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on. Sure. So, just to follow up on counselor's metaphor statement, I had agreed with
what you were saying until our last meeting and I discovered that the high value residential buildings significantly increase the average residential property value. So if we were to reclassify large buildings as
commercial that would reduce significantly value which would push our payment above. So if there's a way to do that without doing that that would be ideal. I just don't know how how we do that. You get
what I'm saying? If you take all of the highest value residential properties out of the average, you now make bring the average significantly down from the 1.1 million to who knows what. But that's something we need to think about. If
you're able to add on top of it as a sort tax without reclassifying, I think that that's the best way. We definitely want to liability. [Music] Same way with like with like the CPA tax. That's a tax on top of the tax.
That would be the deal right here. So, you're just not taking [Music] I have no idea what those numbers would look like. I I understand completely what you're saying and it's something I
can probably [Music] just [Music] I mean just
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Usually that's it. That's pretty easy. [Music] See, I'm going to now declare our public hearing open. Anyone wishing to speak in
favor of the residential exemption and or the residential factor, please come forward and state your name and address for the record. Everyone There is so [Music]
[Music] last call. I'm hearing none and seeing none. to declare that portion of the hearing closed. Anyone wish to speak in opposition to the residential exemption and or residential factor, please come
forward and state your new address. [Music] [Music] [Music] Okay, clerk, do we have any emails in
regards to this thing? [Music]
Heat. Heat. [Music]
disappear. [Music] clear. So this time it's actually appreciate our city assessor's job this year and then tied it to the assessor's
office. It's I've been here for 10 years and this has taken me a deputy to fully understand how complicated this is all and um I think the presentation this year having them come early to to so we can get our juices flowing and really understand it rather than doing it all
in one night really. I I would move to approve the recommendation for the shift to residential consensual [Music] I have [Music]
okay I do have a couple bites for discussion um but we'll make sure that we word that correctly I think we do need to sit we need to state the specific Right. So we need So we need two motions, right? Do we can we do them? We
can do them together. Correct. Hold on. Say that again. N54 residential factor 90 factor and adopt
resial exemption of 35. [Music] pressure on you. 49
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Okay. [Music] Uh, yes. So, I do want to support this shift and just want to clarify a couple things that I think might be confusing to people watching. First, I do want to
recognize that just the sound has made this really hard to watch online. Everything we're hearing is that folks can't get the the direct audio. So, we're relying on caption. So, I do I just want to say I think it's really important that we try to get an additional communication from the city
out via like alerts or Facebook or something because I think this is one of the more consequential yet complicated things that we do next. So, I want to say one just really clearly, this is a tax shift, not a tax cut. And I know we
say it every year, but it's really important for our residents to understand that this does not reduce the amount of income the city gets. it just shifts how it's paid within residential taxes um for the uh for the residential exemption
and that that part only happens inside residential the residential taxes. Obviously the the commercial residential shift impacts both but that residential exemption as we discussed here does does not create any worse a budget gap. It
doesn't solve the budget gap. It's just budget neutral. It does help folks who have lower value homes, have lower property tax bills if they're if they live in them, if they're owner occupied. And I take the point uh well that it is
there's an analogy to commercial property management paying more in taxes. I also want to note that some of the questions and comments I've gotten about this are about whether um whether renters would pay the tax difference for
these higher value residential properties that are of course renters. Um and what I want to say is that there is not a clean answer on that. Obviously they do not pay the bill directly. The landlord does. But if you read the research and the economic theory about
this, most of rental rates are set by the market and only in serious like big changes in the tax rate. It may it might be possible that some of that could get passed on, but it would really have to depend on market right now. And so I
don't think that that is at all one for one. I do think that the rental market is very strong in this area and that that will ultimately govern the rental rates. So it's not a direct So I I want to state that as part of my position on this. Um and lastly, I want to say that
while we have been talking about this in parallel to a potential request for an override or actual increase in res in local taxes, property taxes, they really are independent. We cannot link or make
conditional our tax rates here to what happens in any potential future override vote. I do think that part of the, you know, part part of the reason I hear uh this council and say for myself really wanting to consider this this year in particular is because I think it does
soften the blow for many but not necessarily all of our residents if we end up ultimately proposing and then passing an override. But there's a lot of hypotheticals in that. And I just want to be clear that like we're going to set the rates tonight. That's what the rates are going to be. That is separate from whether we pass an
override or not. Whether those things net out for you or not, if we do that will also vary. So while they are happening in parallel, it doesn't make our message any easier. I do think it has the impact of the impact of something together.
Thank you. 8 to 10 years for us to know. I don't hear any of them complaining whatsoever. Maybe he keeps doing this.
Instead of the trouble that we have from the absence of the animals excellent time powerless because I don't care who we are in a business
of business. Thank you very much. I just want to speak to anyone out there who's listening to let you know that I did hear a lot of your feedback. Um, a big concern of mine is about a long
um there are really tough times right now. So I did a lot of the research and search and follows and more and more and more and more and more and more
this work I'd like to hear about from you know that you know whatever and people that are taking the cuts certain SNAP benefits and all the other um types of social services. So, um we
can just reach out to me and let me know if you hear of anything that we can keep an eye on. Thank you so much. Thank you, Councelor Cologne Hayes. Councelor Spataphora. Uh thank you very much for the last time I promised this topic. I just want to thank the council and certainly Nate and his team. Uh we we've attempted this I
think two other times. Um it was unsuccessful and listen at the end of the day we all know uh no matter what happened tonight the shift of 30 to 35 we were raising everybody's tax bill. I mean that that is the way it works. We're going to raise we're going to give back a little to a certain amount of people uh we
cannot promise it. And I I the way I look at it is uh if we can give back if we can give back I think it's important to to make sure that we focus on um our community and the people that that are owner occupied. I mean nothing against the renters. They're great. But we we do know that
that is a business and the renters unfortunately sometimes are the ones that take the brunt. I do agree with councelor McDonald where it really is uh supply and demand and what the market's going to be. I I think councelor um Ari Taylor last time we discussed this it was something like I think the old
granada it was $22 per per per door as they say in the in the real estate business per year. Um do I know can I guarantee they're not going to raise the rent? They're not going to raise the rent. You're not going to raise the rent. Now joy
it all we all We we are unfortunately always bad news but I'm just happy with that. Yeah. No, I appreciate um the fellow questions.
um you know that substantial people are going to be benefiting and we're not really expecting a big increase in anybody who's not going to benefit and the fact that we can uh particularly for people who are you know at at the lower end of the housing u home owner uh that
we can reduce those taxes um and those people will will see that direct reduction in their tax bill um and we know that for certain um this is I am supportive of this um so I will be supporting this. Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Councelor Winsow. Councelor
Taylor, thank you. I just I want to speak a little bit. Um I have a unique perspective being a renter now, having been a homeowner and a landlord for quite some time. Um and I think one of the things this does is open a pathway
to more home ownership because it does lower that tax rate, which is a barrier to affordable housing. Um, and also it gives us a path to hold absentee landlords accountable because one thing that we overlook when we think about housing is dignified housing and the
conditions people are living in and that you know being able to balance that I think is extremely important. So I am fully in support of this to help our residents, to help homeowners, to help renters. Um, I, you know, realize this
could affect me in one of two ways. Um, they could go up on the rents. Um, but I think most landlords, if they're doing it correctly, they want people who are going to stay and give back and and be good tenants, so they don't want to necessarily increase it too high. So, I
am I am definitely in support of this. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Taylor. And I just wanted to briefly say from the chair also since I know we talk a lot about making sure that the word gets out and making sure that folks understand how they're eligible. I also want to remind folks that owner occupant landlords are
also eligible. So if you are a landlord and you own a multif family and you live in one of the units, this is applicable to you. And there's a fair number of units that that applies to. So, I think that there are when we talk about absentee versus non-absentee landlords, this actually does help the landlords
that live in the community and rent out units and live on site. So, that is I think a benefit to the program as well. Um, you know, we're helping some of the landlords that we're looking to benefit. So, I know we had a motion on the floor from councelor Ali. I missed who seconded that. Councelor Sika. Thank you. So at the
motion that I had was to set a 0.9054 residential factor and to adopt a residential exemption of 35%. Does that sound great? Okay. Um do we need a roll call on this? Okay. Clerk, will you please call the role? Council Clone Hayes?
Yes. Yes. Council Condan. Yes. Council Crowe, yes. Yes. Council McDonald, yes. Yes. Council Ali, yes. Council Sea, yes. Yes. Yes. Council Simmonelli, yes. Yes. Council Speedaphora, absolutely.
Absolutely. Council Taylor, yes. Yes. Council Winslow, yes. Yes. Council President Lennan, yes. Yes. Passes unanimously. Fantastic. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Nate. Okay, next order of business.
Paper 399-25 communication Malden Historical Commission regarding 15 Ferry Street the M IDA Converse Building Memorial I'm sorry Malden Industrial Aid Association building. Okay clerk, will you read the letter into the record?
I'm sorry. Do we do I have a motion to receive the communication? Okay. On a motion by Councelor Crow, seconded by Councelor Taylor. All in favor? I Okay, clerk. Now, will you please read the letter? Apologies. Dear Mayor Christensen, Council
President Lahan, and city councilors, as directed by the Malden Historical Commission, this letter serves to update and remind you of the unresolved status of the preservation of 15 Ferry Street, namely the MIDI Converse Building, Malden Industrial Aid Society Association building, one of the
remaining three Converse buildings in the city and of great historic significance to our community as documented in the attached Massachusetts Historical Commission inventory form, MAL491. The preservation of this historically
significant building created by Mayor Elijah S. Converse's daughter Mary Icon Converse is extremely important. The distinguished philanthropic legacy of Mayor Elijah S. Converse and his family whose substantial contributions were instrumental in
shaping the city of Malden is now imperiled by the threat of demolition. Mayor Elijah S. Converse, his elder brother James W. Converse, his wife Mary D. Converse, his daughter Mary Icon Converse, and his son-in-law Costello C. Converse all made significant
contributions to and for Malden. The Congresses not only provided thousands of jobs for Maldonians, they created the various economic, social, and infrastructure and cultural objects critically important for the city's successful development. Boston Rubber
Shoe Company, First National Bank, Converse Memorial Library, Malden Hospital, Malden Maternity Hospital, Malden Nurses Home, Malden Home for Aged People, YMCA, Malden Industrial Aid Society, Malden Historical Society,
Malden Auditorium, Old City Hall, Felsmere Park, Pine Banks Park, and Spot Pond. Unfortunately, many of these properties were destroyed or ceased to exist in their initial capacity for different reasons. Malden cannot afford to lose any more historically important
buildings related to the Converse family. Any further loss endangers the city's historical integrity and shows disrespect towards such outstanding benefactors as the Converse family. The destruction of important historical buildings and objects one after another
literally erases the traces of the city's long and glorious history, converting it from the visual to the virtual. In June 2019, the commission determined that the building at 15 Ferry Street is a preferably pres preserved building.
The preservation of this historically significant building has not been resolved for several years and now due to an eminent demolition threat requires your immediate attention. With the issuance of the demolition permit and property owners pending filing of the
application for the special permit required for the proposed new development, time is of the essence, even more than before. Most recently, the commission received the attached letter dated October 16, 2025 from property owners attorney Roberto
Demarco, who indicates that owner quote has been placed under time constraints due to the property being left untouched for so long and is moving forward quickly. End quote. Mr. DeMarco emphasizes this in his letter that the owner quote remains open to a resolution
to save the building, but time has grown short. At this point, it appears saving the building is becoming a harder possibility." End quote. The commission still strongly supports the preservation of this building, symbolizing the Converse's historical present presence
in Malden and their heritage and its remaining within the historic Converse Square area. The commission recommends that this may be accomplished through relocation to the previously identified site at Malden High School, preservation at its current location, or
incorporation of the intact building into the design of any future project on that property. The commission understands that 15 Ferry Street is part of a development site that includes the property one Salem Street. One Salem Street is the site of a demolished
building which the commission also determined was preferably pres preserved and any new development must comply with the architectural design requirement set by the commission in its January 27 2020 decision which is attached. When the application for the special permit for
the new development is filed, the commission will submit its formal recommendation to the city council in accordance with title 12.12.010C 010 C code of the city of Malden. The commission thanks you in advance for your ongoing support and assistance to
save this important historic building. Please do not hesitate to contact with us with any questions. Thank you sincerely. Michelle A. Romero, city planner, clerk to the Malden Historical Commission. Thank you, Madam Clerk. The letter is
received into the record. Next order of business. I think that's fine. Okay. Paper 294-25 be it ordained by the Malden city council that the code of the city of Malden 6.12.0602 sale of goods by weight, measure or
volume is hereby amended by striking the table in its entirety and inserting in the following. Um This was something that was enrolled. I I'm sorry. Enrolled and just needs to be ordained. Okay. Councelor Winsow for the paper. Yeah. I mean, as as you recall, um
building Inspector Miller looked at um the weights and measures fees um now that those were under his Bailey Wick and um made recommendations. Um he also provided um an analysis of how those um
have been calculated and that you know comparison to other people. So, we did vote to enroll this last week based on that further information and I just ask that we make a motion that we ordain this so those fees can go into effect as Okay, I see a light from councelor Ali.
I just wanted to thank um building commissioner uh Miller and ordinance chair Winslow for gathering the information related to the um anticipated amount of time it takes to do some of this these inspections as
well as the the cost per hour. Um, and one of the things that I think is important is the the documents that we reviewed to make this determination did not include um, you know, general overhead or um, you know, costs for
insurance and and health care and retirement. Uh, so I I definitely think that the numbers that we put out there uh, do support the increase in the fees. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Ali. Okay. So, on a motion by councelor Winslow, seconded by councelor Crowe, uh motion to ordain.
All in favor? I. Okay. That carries. Next order of business. Paper 400-25 committee report. The standing committee on rules and ordinance to whom was referred papers 275 and 361 series of 2025. Having
considered the same, make the following report. Motion to accept. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And a motion by councelor Winsow, second by councelor Crow to accept the committee report. All in favor? I paper choose well.
Um I'm sorry. No, that's okay. I'll read them one at a time. That's fine. Paper 275-25. Be it ordained by the Malden City Council that the code of the city of Malden 1.04.070 procedure for selling tax title property is hereby amended by striking in its
entirety and inserting the following. Councelor Winsow. Councelor Winsow for the paper. Yeah, this was a paper that was referred back uh to rules and ordinance back in May and um we had we had met and one of the questions I had was uh just have
legal review um sometimes on something that this is a an issue that's affecting every every community and how they process uh tax title. If you're people are familiar, um there was a Supreme Court ruling that affected Massachusetts in particular that um when we take a tax
title property, um we're responsible for um you know, we can't just if it's a property that was worth $500,000 and our taxes are $50,000. In the past, we could technically just keep the $500,000. Um that now is clear. We can't do that.
We have to create a process where the excess above what we're owed um is kept and then we there is a we've uh if nobody claims it we can then uh claim it but um we have to have a process to
allow um the former owners to collect any excess above the taxes. So this is really what that's setting up and uh you know our our treasurer Grover um developed this uh we had legal review it. they they did since this is somewhat
newer um there's really no kind of model ordinance so I think we were fine with the language we're just trying to make sure that um you know if there was sort of a model that was used in other communities maybe we follow that but um I think this is perfectly fine so the
recommendation of the committee um was to um we recommend out this paper favorably to be um ordained thank you okay as as without amendment so without amendments. Okay. Any discussion? Do I have a second to the motion to
ordain? Oh, I'm so sorry. You are. Okay. Motion by councelor Winslow to enroll and a second by councelor Colon Hayes. All in favor? Oh, I'm so sorry, Councelor Amali. You can go ahead. Um,
so I I couldn't there I guess ordinance was having some technical difficulties earlier tonight, so those of us who were online couldn't hear, but uh reviewing what uh has been presented by councelor Winsow, I think this is a good process. I think the fact that uh the council is
still involved in this determination and that public properties is is is involved, I think kind of um hits all of the the the boxes that we need to hit to make sure that we're doing our due diligence. you know, it it's quite something to to take someone's property
uh and then sell it. So, I think it is important that we we do have that proper due diligence. Um and I appreciate the work of the ordinance committee and um Treasurer Grover for coming up with this process. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Ali. Any further
discussion? Okay, so we have a motion on the floor by councelor Winslow, seconded by councelor Cologne Hayes to enroll. All in favor? I I Okay, that carries. Next order of business. Paper 361-25B to ordained by the Malden City Council
that the code of the city of Malden 2.24.015 department head salary schedule is hereby amended by adding the updated salary schedule chart effective July 1st 2025. Councelor Winsow for the paper. Yeah. So, well, so do we need to make a
motion to accept the committee report? We did. Okay. All right. So, good. All right. So, um, we discussed this in the committee. This came was referred a couple weeks back. You know, originally, um, you know, there's a a memo of agreement between this that the the mayor's office and the negotiating team
made between them and the uh department heads union. Um that MOA was signed before the mayor sent down a paper related to um looking at our financial situation and considering Prop 2 and a half override.
Um you know it came up in committee of um the the paper um as proposed was to change the salary schedule for department heads for the next three this fiscal year and the following two fiscal years. And the discussion came up of um
you know we have the money um you know uh you know encumbered for this fiscal year but we're not certain what's going to happen in fiscal 2728. So the committee um decided to amend the paper and just change the sc salary
schedule for this fiscal year fiscal 26. Um, you know, it was very clear from counselors um that that was not a decision that um against the the scale that was agreed to, but um we want to take it one kind of bite at a time. And that was the paper was amended by the
committee to and a re a recommendation is to um to uh you know in make the uh to adopt a paper as amended with a recommendation that we only change the salary schedule um for fiscal 2026. So
thank you. Okay. Any further discussion? Okay. So on a motion by councelor Winslow oh sorry councelor Ali go ahead. Yeah. So, um, in committee I I had I had stated that um I think that it it it
would be a little bit cart before the horse to to take up this um paper without having more clarity in terms of what the financial outlook is going to be like, particularly with an override or a debt exclusion.
um and that you know we're looking to try to um restrain costs as much as we can in this fiscal year so that next fiscal year and the years after are not as painful. And so I think it does send a conflicting message to the community
um about increasing costs at this particular moment without really fully knowing what what we're going to be getting ourselves into. Um I also don't think it's fair necessarily to, you know, try to um
you reneg on a a commitment that has been made when it comes to a contract. So, I just think more clarity is is important. Um unfortunately, I cannot support what is being presented tonight. Um especially considering it's going to be people's jobs. We're we're talking about losing people's jobs. Uh and I
cannot vote for something that is going to put our rank and file employees at risk. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Ali. Councelor Cologne Hayes. Um, yes, thank you. I was going to ask a similar question if this
Yeah, if we would be breaking a contract. I I also feel very uncomfortable about giving a department head salary increase when we're talking we haven't even looked yet at anything regarding cuts. But if we have to do this per union, that would be different than um
yeah, so if if someone could not sure if anybody has the answer to that, but I would like to wait on this maybe if we could. I'm not sure if there's timing on this until we hear back um from the mayor's office that uh Chuck Rangan was talking about getting a list um of
people that we may have to look at their being cut. That's a a tremendous decision that we have to overtake and I do feel uncomfortable right now about you know giving increases when we might be losing jobs. Thank you. Thank you councelor Colon Hayes.
Councelor Winso did you want to respond to that or I could go to councelor McDonald. Um you know this this will essentially we have the money that's been appropriated for this fiscal year. So um this is approving B and and uh uh
controller Rangan explained that um normally when we have a salary uh you know chart increase or change it it's accompanied by a financial paper but because there's this is just the individual department heads I think there's about 13 department heads that
are impacted here um that um the few thousand raises that people will be getting and this is only from since July 1st. There'll be a little bit of retropay that um that's basically being funded out of their current appropriations for their budget. Um but
it just seemed right. I mean, one of the things by sort of just calling and and thinking about this, um, the negotiation team is has sort of made clear with, you know, across the city that given that we have, um, you know, we we don't know
what our fiscal 27 budget's going to look like, and we're not promising three-year contracts at this point. We need to get through this. So, so this is just um you know, so so we're going to um you know, respect the the the contract um and you know, for this
fiscal year because we've already appropriated that money and make sure the folks if we vote tonight to um make this change, then um you know, people can get caught up, you know, as we often do, people will get some retropay and then this will go forward until um you
know, budget season comes up and then we will look and see where we're at financially. So um so and we we it was clear from the committee you know we're not saying that this might you know what the schedules will be in in 27 and 28 and uh but just we want to take it one
step at a time and there was you know you know uh kind of you know contradictory things in terms of what we want to do but the recommendation of the committee was to given our the serious fi financial situation we're in that um
you know we want to um spend spend the appropriated money, but be be cautious about spending, you know, committing to 27 and 28. So, um, so I think that's really what there's no that by voting
yes or no on this, um, there's not going to be any impact to any current employees. U but you know as we know the spectre of what we're going to may may do related to a potential override and ultimately the decision the voters make
is going to imp impact the fiscal 27 budget. So we just felt we weren't comfortable about you know extending uh you know something that we know now that we know the situation. So there are contracts I believe that that do extend into that we have changed the schedules
into 27 but just seems you know it just seems we should take a pause um it's one of the things we can do as a council as we're struggling with the finances of the city. So, so that's you know what was discussed in committee and you know like I say that was the recommendation of the committee is to to go ahead with
this fiscal years where we know that we have the money we've appropriated that but till we uh you know controller ran again was saying that what they will propose is come when the city budget comes down they will address the MOA at
that time um for 27 and 28. So so we'll figure it out from there. So, but uh so it's not a a rejection of what's going on with the proposed for 2728, but we just want to take it one fiscal year at a time. So, thank you. Okay. Thank you, Councelor Welz. Council McDonald,
I just want to add my support for this um and to try to make sure that we are being clear about what our real choices are in this. So, because the salary because they were in negotiations, we didn't update the salary schedule. You know, the previous contract had gone out. We hadn't updated the salary
schedule as of July 1 of this year. So I think in as councelor Winsow pointed what we're focusing on for the override conversation for the tax rates is all the next fiscal year. That's what we put a pause on. That's what this puts a
pause on. And I that's right. Um I both don't want to make the department directors as a bargaining unit. You know I don't want to make them the target of this. I also don't want them to have to be uh I don't want them to get an you know an unfair benefit given that they
are our it's our highest compensated bar you know set of set of um unit members. And so I think this is fair. I think it sets a good precedent. I think it's reasonable that we start here honestly with the department heads and that this is going to be the tone for the next couple months. If we were to not approve
this, our choices are one, just table it and not deal with it, which I think is, you know, I think we could do that to improve the optics of it, but I'm not sure that it's really that honest. And I think we would be paying the back pay anyways. There's no version of that that where we wouldn't end up with a salary
adjustment this year because almost every other unit has that salary adjustment. Going into the future, I think that's a very different story because it hasn't happened yet. And so, yes, I think that's right to to pause on that. The other thing we could do is say we don't approve this agreement and send it back to the mayor to reopen, which I
think is timeconuming and disruptive and and this doesn't strike me as out of line with the other kinds of contracts and um rates and increase that we've approved, which is what I'm looking for. We don't review all of the benefits and details to the pay. We just review the salary schedules. We don't review the
contracts in detail. That really is on the mayor and his team to negotiate. But in terms of what we approve, this seems in line with other city employees. I think it's important to try to keep everybody on the same page because if we do end up in a situation where we need to negotiate layoffs and then other
types of things like um potential um uh what do you call it where you have to take a day furlow furloss anything like that those are going to need to be applied equitably across all of our bargaining units. So we would be having to try to make sure that our department directors were
considered in that anyways. It's a conversation with the unions anyways. Um, so I just think that really, you know, we could delay on this if we wanted to. That's not my preference, but I understand if my colleagues want to do that. I'm I'm comfortable approving this
year's this year's increase, which is already budgeted. Um, if we But I don't think that we can I don't think that it is a direct like tradeoff of like, oh, we can save jobs because we didn't do a this is not really a raise. It's a cost of living adjustment. It's 3% cost of
living adjustment to our department directors who not for nothing are some of the folks that need to do the most heavy lifting in management to navigate a financial crisis um or a budget crunch. So that's my take on it. Um but I just want us to be cleareyed about what our real choices and trade-offs
are. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor McDonald. Councelor Simelli. Thank you, Madam President. And you know what, Council McDonald may have already answered this question for me, but I I was I was just always under the impression that the council didn't have
the ability to uh negotiate or, you know, deny or get involved in any ratified contracts, but you know, I may be wrong on that, but that's what I I I've always understood that that was with the mayor and his budget team that
did that. So, so are we saying so we're not looking at this as a three-year contract? We're just looking at it as as the money was budgeted for this year to give them a raise. And if we didn't do that, we'd be reagging on on this. So,
so I guess what I'm saying is we give them the percentage raise for this year and then what is it? the next two years are like wage openers or or zeros or what what what would that what would how would that work if if it's a ratified
contract now three years? Well, so our language on this paper doesn't speak to the contract at all. It merely is it amends the paper to reflect this fiscal year. That's it. It actually doesn't even speak to future fiscal years. It simply states that we're
voting for this fiscal year. That's the amendment from committee. Correct. Correct me if I'm stating that, misstating that. Councelor Winsow. Um, sorry, I'm trying to get your light on. Just we, you know, in our ordinances, in
our ordinances, when salaries go up, we vote on changing our ordinance to be consistent with the contract. We're just saying we're just going to do that this fiscal year. And what we'll be asking the mayor to do is when the budget is proposed for fiscal 27, they would be
free to you reintroduce the schedule for 27 or 28, whatever they they want to do. But we just sort of want to take it one step at a time. So we're not um you know, it's just the timing of when the council takes action to change the salary schedule in the ordinance. and
we're just saying we're comfortable with just changing it for this fiscal year because we as a the mayor and the council already voted to appropriate that. We're not asking that this be re renegotiated at this time. We're just saying let's take this one step. Um there's no uh we're going to be voting
on a budget again by you know in May or June. Um let's consider the salary schedule for 27 when we're voting on the 27 budget. That's all we're doing so. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Council. Okay. Um, councelor Cologne Hayes for
the second time. Uh, thank you. Um, so I would entertain um or like to ask if we would wait until after we've had a few more finance meetings, but it does
sound like um from my colleagues and people that that might not pass. So, I'm going to say that I'm I can't vote for this tonight. Um, yeah, I'm not prepared to vote any increases, um, right now. Um, but
I'd be willing to vote on this after we have a few more finance committee meetings, but I will pass on that since it sounds like people already did their work and want to move forward, but I wouldn't be able to support it tonight. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Colon Hayes. Okay, so we have a motion to enroll as amended
by councelor Winslow. Oh, sorry. Understood. We have we need a motion to approve the amendment. Um do I have a motion? Councelor Winsel, would you like to make that motion? I make a motion to um amend the paper as
inconsistent with the recommendation from the rules and ordinance committee to limit the salary schedule change to fiscal 26. So the motion from committee was to amend the paper to adjust the salary schedule to reflect fiscal 2026. Okay.
Uh, seconded by councelor McDonald. All in favor? I. That carries. Oh, you said you voted no. Okay. You voted no. So, councelor Conan and councelor Co Hayes. You voted yes. Mr. President, I'm wondering
if we would, for the safe side, you want to do a roll call. Do a roll call vote on the amendment and then another roll call vote. I think that's a good idea. Okay. Okay. So, let's do a roll call. Motion to amend. Council Clone Hayes, no. No. Council Condan, no. Council Crow,
yes. Yes. Council McDonald, yes. Yes. Council Ali, no. Council Sega, yes. Yes. Council Simmonelli, no. Council Spa, yes. Council Taylor, yes. Yes. Council Winsow. Yes.
Yes. Council President Lahan, yes. That is 7 to four. The amendment passes. Okay. On the motion to enroll as amended, let's call the role.
Council Cologne Hayes, no. Council Condan, no. Council Crowe, yes. Yes. Council McDonald, yes. Yes. Council Ali, no. Council Sega, yes. Yes. Council Simmonelli, no. No. Council Spaphora, yes.
Yes. Council Taylor, yes. Council Winslow, yes. Yes. Council President Lahan, yes. Okay. So, that also passes by a seven to four vote. Okay. So, that carries. I'm sorry. Thank you. The these tech issues are really
flustering me tonight. Okay. Okay. Moving on. Next order of business. Paper. Yes. And I I should have asked earlier and and and you know that vote. I understand how people feel in that.
Uh my question is is this something we're going to be seeing going forward where instead of because this is this is my challenge with this is you can't you can't short change the last group to come in for a raise when everybody else already got their raise. That that is to me we're playing play devil's advocate
and and that's a challenge. Now my question is going forward though I hope all and I know our union friends left. I hope they understand that going forward. I think it's probably the will of the council that these contracts are not going to be multi-year given we don't
know what our finance is going to be next year, never mind two years from now. I just hope that we stand united as a body and say that we hope that the contracts moving forward while we respect everybody's ability to get a raise might not be indicative of a multi-year contract until we have a
better line of sight. I would just hope that's the way because I think if you come down and let's just pick one. Let's say the teachers want a three-year one and then somebody else comes in and says, "Oh, we're only going to do a one-year one." That's not fair to the union. So, I just hope that now that we've cleared kind of the what was in
the past going forward, we should be mandating that contracts are not looked at in multi-year unless that's what we're going to do. That I'm just trying to set some standards and guard rails and understanding going forward. You know, there's a challenge. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Oh. Oh, I couldn't even see you over there. Marie, did you want to I didn't I didn't know if she wanted to speak, so that Yeah, that's fine. You can come come on over to the podium. Thank you. And the only reason why I say I know this was a tough I understand at the same
the issue with this particular contract is that the negotiation started a very long time ago and there was reasons on both sides why it was delayed this long. um and it was signed some time ago. But moving forward, we've already met with
um let's see, the DPW um union as well as patrol. Those are the two we're in negotiations with right now. And both um unions have been made aware that we're only doing a one-year contract. Um so
that's that's the um process that we're going to follow. Thank you very much. Okay, moving on to our next order of business. Paper 401-25, committee report, the standing committee
on license to whom's referred papers 349, 357 through 360 and 371 through 373 series of 2025. Having considered the same, make the following report. Committee recommends these petitions out favorably to the full council.
Motion I receive the committee report. Okay. On a motion. Okay. On a motion by councelor Sea, seconded by councelor Simmonelli to receive the committee report. All in favor? I. Okay. Clerk will read the petitions into the record. Paper 349-25
petition extended hours Burger King 922 61 Broadway Malden 7 days a week 24 hours a day. New that was a new petition. Paper 357-25 petition class 2 Sega Auto Sales and Service 455 Ferry Street 7 cars new.
Paper 358-25 petition lodging house metro north housing corp 22 Charles Street 11 rooms renewal. Paper 359-25 petition lodging house Ceda House LLC 116-118 Cedar Street 14 rooms renewal.
Paper 360-25 petition lodging house North Housing Corp. 115 Washington Street 14 rooms renewal. Paper 371-25 petition class 2 Andy Service Center Incorporated 356 Lebanon Street 3 cars renewal. Paper 372-25 petition class 2
Auto Tech 2 Incorporated 1236 Eastern Avenue 5 cars renewal. Paper 373-25 petition class 2 Sega Auto Sales and Service Incorporated 451 Ferry Street 10 cars renewal. Okay. Councelor Sea for the committee. Thank you.
Oh, do you have a a recusal? Councelor Cologne Hayes. Oh, I'm so sorry. Hang on. These microphones are just not cooperating tonight. Okay. Councelor Cologne Hayes. Yes. I am uh very honored to be on the Metro North um housing court board. So, I'm going to recuse myself.
We probably should have taken the vote before we read the paper. Well, well, she can recuse herself now if she feels the need to, but there's no money involved. I just voting if you want. I'd rather do it out of an abundance of question. Out of a very much of abundance of
question. Thank you. Okay. Um that's fine. On a motion. Do we need to take a vote on that or she can just refuse? Okay. Okay. So, last week the license committee met to discuss all these petitions. They are all pretty much
renewals. The only new one is for Burger King and it's technically not a renewal. Um, everyone will just be happy to know that it's now going to be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just like McDonald's came in a couple of months ago for the same thing. So, the
committee um voted for all of these to be recommended out favorably. So, I have a motion to grant all these petitions. That is news my family did not need to have. Okay. On a motion by councelor Sea, seconded by councelor Simmonelli. All in favor? I I Okay, that motion carries.
Next order of business. Paper 402-25, committee report. The standing committee on personnel and appointments to whom was referred paper 369 series of 2025 having considered the same make the following report. Okay.
Thank you, Councelor Crow. Um uh seconded by councelor Taylor. The committee report is received. Councelor Crow. All in favor? I. Councelor Crow for the paper. paper. Would you like me to read the paper for you? Council y'all, I'm losing it tonight with these
tech issues. I'm so sorry. Thanks to Carolina. I wouldn't be the meeting would not be running today. Paper 369-25, mayoral appointment, David Camill, 35, William Street Malden as a member of the board of registars of voters filling the unexpired term of Jessica Sherman
expiring March 31st, 2028. Councelor Crow for the paper. Thank you, Madam President. So, we met with U. Mr. Camilll earlier this evening and had a wonderful conversation and um multiple um committee members had asked some questions and Mr. Camila really
reiterated his commitment to ensuring fair and equitable um uh elections here in the city of Malden and his continued support for the advancements that we've made um in uh transliteration and trying to work to get some um multilingual pole
workers and and some other things. I think um again um clerk desadero had mentioned but they do a lot of spreadsheets is what one of his um his favorite things to do. So, um we u make a motion to um approve this appointment
and uh and so we can get him to work tomorrow just to be ready for next week's election. A second. Okay. Fantastic. On a motion by councelor Crow, seconded by councel Winsow. We do need a roll call. Council Clone Hayes.
Oh, yes. Yes. Council Condan. Yes. Council Crow. Yes. Yes. Council McDonald. Yes. Yes. Council Ali, yes. Yes. Council Sega. Yes. Yes. Council Simmonelli. Yes. Council Spataphora. Yes. Yes. Council Taylor. Yes.
Yes. Council Winslow. Yes. Council President Lahan. Yes. Yes. That was unanimous. Okay. He has been confirmed. Fantastic. Congratulations, Dave. Next order of business. Paper 403-25. Order that the city council will vote
whether to go into executive session with legal counsel for the city for the purpose of exemption 3 Massachusetts general law chapter 38A section 2183 for the purpose of discussing strategy as to possible future litigation related to grants where such discussion in open
meeting may have a detrimental effect on the litigation position of the city if so declared by the chair and if so allowed by the body to admit Maria Louise special assistant to the mayor and Alex Pratt director of the office of strategic Planning and community development. Roll call is required.
Okay. So, citing exemption 3 of Mass General Law Chapter 38 section 21A wherein discussing paper 403-25 in open meeting would have a detrimental effect on the city's litigating position. I'd be looking for a motion to
enter executive session. Motion by councelor SEA count on a second by councelor McDonald. Councelor Winsow, I see your light on. Do you have a question? You do. Okay. Yeah, we'll get to personal privilege. That's no problem. So, I'm going to have the clerk call the
role um so that we will enter into executive session. Council Clone Hayes, yes. Council Condan, yes. Council Crowe, yes. Yes. Council McDonald, yes. Yes. Council Ali, no. No. Council Seca, yes. Yes. Council Simonelli, yes. Council Spataphora,
yes. Council Taylor, yes. Council Winslow, yes. Yes. Council President Lahan, yes. Okay, that passes by a 10 to1 vote. Okay, so we are going to first take personal privilege. After that, we are going to enter executive session. The body is not going to reconvene for any
further business this evening and we will adjourn directly from executive session. So for personal privilege, I have councelor Winsow first. Yeah, I want to thank the Maplewood Association and the the volunteers including a lot of Malden High students who helped at Salem Wood School this
past Sunday for the Maplewood Halloween. Um, thanks to Arty and Brian um, at Salem with making that successful event. They were there at 9:00 in the morning when I pulled up with the U-Haul with everything and um, they were there at the end of the day helping it making it happen. Also, thanks thanks to the Lions
Club who helped um, you know, run the pizza and popcorn concession and all the sponsors who uh, uh, for all the raffle gifts and that type of thing. So, it's that was a great event. Um, I just want to remind everybody that the next Tuesday, November 4th, is election day.
People can uh vote in person up to this Thursday here at city hall. And um and if you've gotten a mail and ballot remind you be reminded you have to turn it in by what day? It has to be turned into the clerk's
office at city hall by 8:00 p.m. on election night. It cannot go back to the polling place to come to city hall. So just make that clear. Um and then uh so the council is not meeting next week because it's a Tuesday and we're also not meeting uh before Veterans Day. So I want to send um regards to all our
veterans out there and I guess uh if our clerk uh can make sure that council finds out about any Veterans Day activity happening. I I know lately it's been over at Bel Rock Park. So I would assume so I I'll let councelor Crow fill us in on that. Thank you. Great. All right. Thank you.
All right. Thank you, Councelor Winsow. Councelor Ali. Um I just want to uh let the community know that you know starting in November because of the shutdown um SNAP benefits will be uh paused or and not be paid. So
there are different resources that you can take advantage of to try to make up for any missed food. Um the first thing you can do is call 211 which will connect you to social services that might um you know food banks etc. Um, there's also Project Bread and the Greater Boston Food Bank. If you're a
senior, you can sign up for Meals on Wheels. Um, and if you want to stay informed, um, you can go to the Department of Transitional Assistance website to stay up to date on your your potential SNAP benefits. Thank you. Oh, and actually to Councelor Winsow's point, you know, we are up for for for
re-election. I I I don't have a particular challenger this year. Um, but regardless, I do appreciate the the support of our community. Um, you know, it's it's there are a lot of challenges as we know when it comes to the budget and various other things, you know, keeping our streets safe, uh, and making
sure that Malden can be a livable community. So, um, thank you to my colleagues, thank you to the community, uh, and looking forward to serving next year. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Ali, Councelor Sika. Thank you, Council President. I just want to remind everybody that Council Laspataphor and myself have a second
annual pumpkin smash this Saturday from 12 to 2 at um the Lynen Steam Academy parking lot. Uh last year was a lot of fun. Whether you're just looking to get rid of your pumpkins or breaking up with an ex and
saved your Don't laugh. We had a we had a lady show up last year and she was saving her pumpkin so she could kind of blow off some steam by smashing the pumpkin in the back of the truck cuz she had just gone through a breakup. So um like
whatever your you know your frustrations are, come and bring your pumpkin um and and smash it off the back of the the truck. It it's a lot of fun. It it really was a lot of fun. Counselor McDonald came with his kids. I think they thoroughly enjoyed it. So, if you
have any cobbed pumpkins that you're looking to get rid of, come on down to Lynen School 12 to 2 on Saturday. Thank you. Great. Thank you, councelor Sika. Counselor McDonald. Couple things from me. First, just on the um on the expiration of SNAP
benefits, food stamps for the uh for the government shutdown. Two of our local organizations are also doing food drives and fundraising. Um, Housing Families is trying to get people market basket gift cards. So, if you can donate to that drive or if you need uh a gift card,
talk to Housing Families. And Bread of Life is also doing a fundraising drive which is posted in the Maltton neighbors helping neighbors group as well. So, I hope we can all find ways to support that. Um, I also want to just send prayers to, um, folks who may know
people in Jamaica, uh, or other islands in the Caribbean that are in the path of Hurricane U Melissa, which looks really, really scary. So, sending those prayers. Uh, I have two other things. One is that um, we I have a I have a letter that updates
you all and the mayor from our climate action and sustainability commission. They just missed the cut off for this meeting, but they are one year in and focusing on some great opportunities for implementation. They love to hear from you. So, um we're going to we're going to forward that to the to the council
and make sure that that's a um that's on the docket to be received as a uh as a communication hopefully when we get back uh after the twoe break. And also to let you all know that um folks who are watching, we are planning a forum on the
Proposition 2 and a half uh override proposal. This will be an opportunity to yes offer your comments, but also ask questions. Um try to get some insight, offer your ideas and suggestions. It's meant to be a community conversation. Uh we're looking at the evening of Wednesday, November 19th. time to be,
you know, to be determined, but probably like six o'clock um in a large public area where we can um where we can accommodate a lot of people, perhaps the senior center. So stay tuned for more information about that, but since we won't be back in council before then, uh I hope folks will come and send their
good thoughts and questions. We are always open to more more solutions and more ideas. So please come ready for conversation on that date. Thank you very much. Thank you, Councelor McDonald. Councelor Cologne Hayes. Hi. Um, so I I wanted to just give a
shout out to Salemwood Trunker Treat. Um, that was a first. It's really taken off from um, Ward One over there. So, it was really fun to go there and um, support the kids over the Salemwood School. But also, I wanted to give a big shout out to John Seiya and the Disabled
American Veterans um, Association for a tremendous um, health fair that they put on. It was national health education week. So this is the third time we've all done this together and it's more important now especially with cut off of
a lot of federal um benefits. So thank you for um talking about that council and they had there was a lot of tables there helping folks sign up for different types of benefits like fuel assistance. So check out ABCD Boston.
They still doing their fuel assistance and I will be posting all these resources. I have done it on uh my Facebook page, but I'll continue to do that and spread it around um because it's we're going to help our we're going to need to help our community a lot in the next um coming I was going to say
weeks, months, but it's probably years. So, um stay tuned. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Cologne Hayes, Councelor Crow. Thank you, Madam President. I want to say thank you to everybody that came out to Saturday's trunk or treat on the bike path. um whether you're a trunker or a
tree, it is all because of you that it's a success. And I want to thank the councils that came out and um the organizations that um participated in this really family fun relax kind of event. So I think it's all about
community at this point and um I do not have the exact time but I think it is going to be at 11:00 on Veterans Day. It is going to be the Veterans Day um celebration um at um Bellar Rock Memorial Park. We'll be dedicating a bench to Malcolm
Bennett who um was a retired firefighter and a veteran and a would one guy and someone I've known my whole life. Um so come on out and um really um show your appreciation to all the veterans and all the work that they've done for us. Thank you, Councelor Crow. Council Spash
for you had your light on, right? I'm okay. You have the floor that on. All right. Yep. You should be good. I want to thank Council Crow for putting on a great trunk or treat. Council Seeker for again decorating me up and putting me on the the bike path. Uh it was a great opportunity for those who
didn't see it. Uh we did a McDonald's theme. So I want to thank McDonald's for giving us a real good deal on that food. That was very helpful. You What? Not this McDonald. What did I say? McDonald's. Oh, not I get Okay. Right over my head. Right over my head.
Uh, I know it's not, first of all, happy Halloween everybody. Uh, that's coming up, but I I know it's never too early, but um, councelor uh, Seeker and I will be looking to hopefully get raise more turkeys for Thanksgiving for the bread of life. Uh, Maria Louise and myself
already met a couple weeks ago with uh, the bread of life to start planning on that. That is going to be November 27th this year. 12 to 2 was the dining uh, at the Malden High School. That's the uh Francis and Barbara Brown Thanksgiving dinner. We will be looking for drivers
and donations. Uh I'm going to coordinate them again, but we we want to make sure we start early. We, as everybody has already mentioned, we know it's going to be maybe even a hotter year uh than previous years for obvious reasons. So, we're looking to start that that kind of cadence now. So, look forward to that. And finally, um it's
hard to believe, but today is my son's 18th birthday. A so uh I've been told based on me driving him to get better grades in school that I might not be getting his vote this year. This is his first opportunity to vote. So he said he'll get me back
inside the the election booth. So I I told him I'm going in with him to make sure. Uh but happy birthday 18 years old to my son Mariano. Thank you very much. A Okay. Okay. Well, seeing no more lights, we will now enter into executive session. Just a reminder, we're not
coming back and we're going to adjourn from our executive session. Thank you everyone.