e e we're good live good evening everyone we're going to call the meeting in order please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance stes public notice of this meeting pursuant to the open public meetings act has been given by the township Council in the following manner notifying the
Township Clerk December 27 2024 mailing notice to the carrier post essential record and Burlington County Times on December 27th 2024 and posting notice on the official Municipal bowling board on December 27th 2024 uh we ask everyone to please place
all of your phones on mute so there's no disruption of the meeting roll call Terry Mr cofman here miss Nunes Mr Simon here Mr zadnik present mayor tallerico here mayor just so that the record can reflect that Miss NES did call she had a death in her family okay sorry to hear
that thank you uh presentation Energy Efficiency Goldstar by sustainable Maple Shade Emily Wallace I don't see her here yet okay all right so we'll go over to ordinances introduction and first reading ordinance number 20253 an
ordinance of the township of Maple Shade in Burlington County New Jersey authorizing the private sale of certain Township owned land no longer needed for purchase use to continuous property owner Michael McClure in accordance with the local lands and buildings law njsa
40a 12-1 motion for introduction so move I'll second that comments roll call Mr Kaufman yes Mr simonik yes Mr zadnik yes mayor Tavo yes publication date April 2nd 2025 public
hearing April 24th 2025 ordinance number 2025 d04 2025 ordinance to exceed the municipal budget appropriation limits and to establish a cap Bank njsi 44-454 motion to
introduce I'll second that comments roll call Mr caufman yes Mr Simon no Mr zadnik yes mayor T Rico yes publication date April 2nd 2025 public hearing April 24th 2025 resolution number 2025 r-7
governing body certification of compliance with the United States equal employment opportunity commissions enforcement guidance on the consideration of arrest and conviction records and employment decisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 motion to approve so made I'll second that
comments roll call Mr Kaufman yes Mr sim yes Mr znik yes mayor T Rico yes resolution number 2025 d-71 introduction of the 2025 Municipal budget whereas the township Council of the township of Maple Shade desired to introduce the
2025 Municipal budget to it total budget 2,262 16 amount of non-property tax revenue 8,333 79.99 amount to be raised by property tax is 12, 8833 1 as whereas a synopis of synopsis
of a four mentioned Municipal budget will be published in the April 14th Edition of the carrier post and a public hearing will be held on Thursday April 24th 2025 at the municipal complex at a meeting which will begin at 6:30 p.m. now therefore be it resolved by the township Council of the township of Maple Shade in the county of burington
and the state of New Jersey that the Township Council hereby authorizes introduction of the 2025 Municipal budget as described motion for introduction so moveed second anybody I'll second that comments roll call Mr Kaufman yes Mr
Simon no Mr zarnik yes mayor talico yes publication date April 14 2025 public hearing April 24th 2025 this is now the public portion for the consent agenda only anybody wishing to come up to speak please come up state your name and
address this is for the consent agenda only seeing none motion to close l no okay motion to close did you I'll
make that motion did you no you're okay okay second all in favor okay consent agenda resolution number 2025 d-72 through r-7 77 motion to approve
the consent agenda so I'll second comments roll call Mr Kaufman yes Mr Simon sik yes Mr zarnik yes mayor tallo yes approval of the expenditure list
thank you current fund bill is 3,748 n147 Utility Fund $818 $233 General Capital fund $85,000 28819 trust fund Bill list is
$869 182 and our grant fund is $1,841 195 I have had an opportunity to review the bills as submitted and recommend payment when funds are available thank you motion to approve Bills second
comments roll call Mr cman yes Mr Zim yes Mr zadnik yes mayor T Rico yes this is the public portion anybody from the public wishes to come up please state your name and address for the record just state your name and address for the record uh Christine nline um 829
North Fork Landing Road Maple Shade New Jersey thank you how can we help you tonight well I have a proposal for the township um there's a group of about 10 of of us who would like to bring the Maple Shade sidewalk sale back to our
Main Street and if you don't mind I have some paperwork here that I can just pass out to you guys or I'll just you two pages okay so um the Maple Shade sidewalk sale remains
one of the most beloved townwide events in our history in 1973 Irv Epstein had the idea to have small Uptown businesses sell their goods outside of their stores that good idea grew to be every Shader
favorite fall event for well over 40 years Maple Shade Drew in upwards of 20,000 people to our little town we were given the opportunity to show off our main Street our local businesses youth sports teams Maple Shade organizations Church churches the Arts our youth
volunteers and our friends friendly towns people it was a day of immense pride in Maple Shade unfortunately the Maple Shade sidewalk sale came to an official end in 2022 due to the covid world expenses safety concerns with large
crowds lack of volunteers Etc well all those concerns were legitimate it did not make losing the Beloved event um any easier there are two events in this town that as residents we hold closest to our hearts and I would say definitely it's
the fireworks and the sidewalk sale um that being said again there's a committee of 10 local residents who would like to bring back the sidewalk sale to our Main Street this committee is made up of lifelong residents with extensive histories of volunteerism throughout our Town's organizations we
are no strangers to hard work and pulling off large events are willing to put in the time and the effort this first year would not be the grand event that we all remember but a memorable day on a much smaller scale to start off so
our proposal uh we were hoping for September of this year but we realized we were a little bit crazy so we're asking for September of 2026 with the a Saturday to be determined um from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. um we would not have a
rain date the first year just because of the Ament amount of planning that goes into it and having to um reorganize everything so in the event of inclement weather we would uh offer refunds holding of a spot or asking if they just want to give a donation um location the
vendors will be offered uh 10 10 by 10 spots along both sides of Main Street because we're going to keep it smaller the first year if we are approved for this um we would start at fellowship and end at the Gazebo for the first year um the goal the initial goal of this first
year is to again engage our residents and help to broaden the sense of community and town Pride we're hoping to bring back more needed attention to our Main Street and local businesses both old and new and if there is any profit seen in the first year we would hold it in an account which is yet to be
determined um to finance the next year's sidewalk sale ultimately any profits seen from this endeavor will be going back to the community based on meat uh Community involvement our committee will reach out out to Main Street businesses and offer them spots
along Main Street to sell their goods and promote their services as done in the past we will encourage involvement for Maple Shade organizations churches youth groups and our high school our Target vendors would be artisians and those offering quality products um
activities such as face painting sand art we would like to have food vendors and local nonprofits such as animal rescues we would not like to offer spots to commercial vendors such as home improvement companies and those sell windows or countertops Etc um you know we know the pricing in
years past was $50 um we do have to increase the price just based on the times so we're proposing $75 if um for an early registration by June of 2026 $100 a spot if uh registered by July
31st of 2026 and 125 after 81 of 2026 and then we have a deadline for any applications to be accepted did of 96 2026 um for set up and tear down we're hoping to begin setting up around 8:00 a.m. and have tear down completed by
3:30 p.m. we would advertise for this event through social media our local media Flyers posters and Word of Mouth anticipated cost um so I did reach out to Mar and Constantine and so I am
familiar with the cost that went in and what was given um by the township so we're thinking the anticipated cost may be between 15 and 20,000 initially 10,000 from what I've heard was historically paid by the township for um closure of Main Street the police Public
Works Etc um we would like to um do a fundraising effort um when we decide what organization we're going to be under to uh do this endeavor and uh raise money either through like a mega
50/50 um asking for donations Etc to help offset the cost um finally we would like to thank the township for your consideration we're aware this is a large Endeavor and we're willing to put the work in it will all be worth it to bring back a tradition that is so loved by our friends and neighbors we kindly
ask the township for your support in bringing back this event and our committee is me Christine nutlin Danielle Garwood Erin santor Marine Martin Michelle vzy Barbara Stanton Chrissy Deo Don McCarney um Dena Miller I'm sorry Don matac Dina Miller and
Stacy Herman thank you anybody have any questions I think it's a great idea I agree all right it's a good idea there's a lot to go into it we know yeah make sure you touch Spas with PD absolutely yep yep yeah those would be things that
we will once you work on you have a date and whatnot sit with the police department get them involved and go from there that's it all right that sounds great you're talking about doing it like the third week of September yeah later in September I think the police department would like it to be a little bit later than early September from what
I've heard all right we will put it on uh thank you all right thank you thank you very much thank you you could would you just send me an email just so I have somebody's contact information too so this way we can least start thank you very much thank anybody else from the public would like to come up please state your name and address
for the record uh how are you guys Rahul Patel 470 Route 38 East uh good evening council members my name is R Patel and I appreciate the opportunity to speak briefly tonight um I'm here on behalf of
s for 470 LLC an entity behind a proposed cannabis retail location at 470 Route 38 East uh we had originally submitted an application for consideration but understanding that the town has already awarded uh awarded all the
resolutions um since those resolutions have been awarded there's been little to no um further movement on those properties so we just wanted to come in and say some of those properties are coming up on the end of their timeline uh for the ordinance of the town and we
wanted to um since um since that timeline is coming up we wanted to respect respectfully ask for us to be uh in next consideration just in case someone ever doesn't move forward with the resolution um our property is
perfectly zoned it is one of the perfect properties for a business like this to be um held within the township um as far as parking goes location goes safety goes right um and then my background I've been doing this since 2018 you know
ran and operated multiple retails across multiple States um so you know we really want to make sure that this can get going and it gets going on an efficient manner so we can maximize the tax revenue coming back to the township so thank you for your time just wanted to
uh just come up here speak our mind and go from there thank you guys thank you anybody else from the public my name is Morgan Herford and I I actually um am here from Lawnside uh 218
hilard team more senior Avenue I know it's a mouthful now I know what you're thinking is it Mr Herford or Miss Herford and while the answer is neither it's mix Herford like how you would mix a
cocktail I'm one of those non-binary gender non-conforming people you hear about and unless I specifically State my gender or lack thereof I am completely invisible where transgender conversations are concerned I am simply assumed to be a sis woman no matter what
I do or say so why out myself like this in a town that isn't my own in a political clim that may see me shander punished for doing so because I assure you you have residents just like me that visibility matters and that's why I'm
here I represent a movement made up of churches like the Unitarian Universalist Church of Cherry Hill congregation Ki and Medford United Methodist and organizations like jfcs pattent Township Equity initiative and Cooper River
indivisible to ask this Council to extend support to the trans Community my community here in Maple Shade by issuing a proclamation recognizing transgender day of visibility which uh is typically
observed on March 31st over the past two months there has been an onslaught of anti-transgender propaganda we have seen abuse of executive orders speeches riddled with lies and hatefi legislation at the federal level meanwhile we are witnessing the systematic removal of
trans folks human rights in other states issuing a proclamation would show that hate has no place in New Jersey and demonstrate the resilience support and joy of trans folks in the community it would also unite this municipality with others in Camden
Burlington and Gloucester counties who have already issued a similar Proclamation or plan to later this week it's increasingly likely that Federal recognition of transgender day of visibility will be revoked as they had attempted to do for black history month last month if we want to
be able to recognize and include our friends neighbors co-workers and that one person that waited on us in the store but we didn't notice their pronouns and just assumed their gender we have to do it at the municipal level and that's why this is important thank
you thank you anybody else from the public uh my name is Cheryl dakan Heim I live at 115 East Kings Highway I grew up in Maple Shade 60 years ago I lived Elsewhere for 40 years as an
adult and just returned 5 years ago I feel as a resident that um approving the proc Proclamation that Morgan spoke of is a small act that the Town Council
can take that signifies to the lgbtq community that Maple Shade is welcoming to that population um I've known a lot of people that are trans I have a nephew who is trans
um and I see what's happening to trans folks in the world today and it's really rather heartbreaking the way they're being targeted I think Maple Shade is at its best when it conveys a tolerant and
welcoming environment here and though you might wonder how would anybody know if Maple Shade passed this uh resolution I can assure you that word of mouth spreads
about how welcoming Maple Shade is or is not for different groups of people so I urge the uh Council to reconsider the request to pass this Proclamation thank you thank you than you anyone else from
the public hi uh I'm Renee Wyatt and I'm from 57 Thomas Avenue and I'm just here about um the wonderful flood of our property uh this has been going on for a couple decades and uh it's nice to see
new faces to talk to so um we've submitted many videos and photographs of uh the property two houses down where the water overflows where the um the
Inlet is it backs up on a very heavy rainy day and it overflows the um sidewalk it goes onto that neighbor's property but they're okay it just goes up their driveway but it overflows into
Cheryl's yard um and it just creates such a like a creek um in her side yard it wraps around her yard goes into her basement it comes over to my yard and it it just takes up the whole entire yard I
mean we have like I call them football field type yards but not quite that long but uh they're pretty big and uh it takes up the majority of the yard there's no use of our yard Cheryl gets it worse because it gets into her household and she's really gone through
a lot over the years pumping water out of her basement she's supposed to be here she's actually on her way I don't know if she's going to make it but um um she gets the brunt of it mine is just really my yard and I we both see our yards receding a lot over the years
there's a lot less dirt we're starting to see roots of the trees more and more every year I just so it again this year after cleaning up from the winter debris you know um the water continues onto the neighboring yards of limpin
Cott uh they face limp and Cott so there's a three houses that are affected on limping cot in their yards um one not as much it all depends how much water there is um but definitely the two and the one
gentleman was going to be here but he can't um he's at work um but it flows onto their property and then it flows into the limp and cot Street and I've seen it over the years where it flows across the street into those neighboring
yards as well and um um I've been here many times saying this story over and over again I've met with Engineers um they said that the uh Inlet of that area
in the corner of uh of Thomas and across the street where it backs up um they said that it was that the inlet wasn't big enough is what I was told um they've tried maybe a couple things but nothing seems to you know
work so far um I I was told that maybe there was a something going on between the intersection underground by the um corner of limping Cott and Thomas but I'm not sure so I'm just here to just
try again uh see what can be done um it would be nice to have the full use of the yard you know we pay the taxes for the use of the yard I used to have a pool years go I got rid of it because the water would get underneath the pool and draged a liner and rip it
and it was just too expensive to keep replacing it I have a shed there's nothing in it at this point everything that's been in there has been destroyed um we just have no use of the yard I mean like I said Cheryl gets it a
lot worse than I do because it gets into her household and into her basement and um we we just kind of had our we raised our children together we've been single parents all all their lives and it was a
a lot to deal with raising our kids me going back to school at one point and then dealing with that on top of it and everything else that life you know throws at you so it would be just nice to get our property in some sort of working
condition so that we can enjoy you know and then of course the resale of the house you know you consider that and then having to tell the people that are moving into the house you know what you're dealing with you know and um we can't build up the grounds by putting
more dirt in because the water still overflows the sidewalk that's that's where it all begins it just backs up in that Inlet area and it's uh mainly that side but it's also on Paul side too uh which is
like on the other side of the street and his property gets flooded but it's in the corner and then Jimmy's yard right in the next door to him it floods quite a bit but it it doesn't get into your houses right it's just on the property
it's just yeah well thank you for coming up tonight and yeah sorry you haven't been going through that for 20 plus years as I've been coming to the council meetings been up here it's quite frustrating um our engineer we did give it to the engineer he has a report on it tonight so if you want to stick around a little bit he will report on his findings and where we're going to go
from there okay you thank you anybody else from the public okay oh you just have to come up and just give your name if you want to speak sorry I just want to add something real real okay name and address please I'm at 58 Thomas right across the street okay
Rene she actually told me about my house that's how I ended up in this town name my name is Paul S pretty cool little town so glad I'm here been here since 2017 this my first house welcome um I just wanted to add on that not it it
blocks up at the great at the corner of my property floods that area a little bit but it's fine it's over around the corner um but the street the like the the street is actually buckling a little bit there like the asphalt is coming
loose and then that great I mean it's like looks like Niagara Falls there when it really gets going and it goes down all behind their property completely Rene's yard really gets it about first and then I would think like she said the
issue is probably further down because I think it probably ends up in that pond where waterfall is over Main Street something's okay something's but it's actually buckling the street okay and then my house gets I I think
everybody that's have I know okay thank you very much thank you thank you sir thanks anybody else from the public seeing none motion to close
second all in favor I okay I also see that Emily is here so we're going to go over to the presentation for the Energy Efficiency gold star from sustainable Maple Shade Emily Wallace hi I'm Emily at 43 Alexander um I'm a volunteer I was
sustainable Maple Shade trying to make a more sustainable Community um there are Focus areas um that you can choose and my uh priority has been Energy Efficiency um so um there's
opportunities to um complete actions and do things uh to um offer to uh basically uh I'm focusing on Energy
Efficiency trying to help Maple Shade uh become more energy efficient I'm focusing on the municipal municipality side of things um there are opportunities where we can take advantage of Grants and energy assistance from programs like that are
offered by psng um so tonight in particular I need a resolution pass so I can apply for the grant for technical assistance this program provides no cost assistance to municipalities and School District to support efforts that will improve building performance through Energy
Efficiency analysis planning and upgrades the scope of technical assistance will be tailored to the needs of each municipality or School District um we'll be working directly with sustainable Jersey staff and they'll help us identify funding
resources to implement energy projects that will help make our Municipal facilities more energy efficient um this um so there's Merit in understanding how efficient our buildings are this will
give the municipality an opportunity to maximize cost savings when deciding which buildings need to be upgraded and leaves less room for wasteful spending because we won't be upgrading buildings that may be more efficient than others so passing this resolution will be a
good start and um somebody will help us do this and I volunteering to be the Project Lead there's a surprise r76 I believe is the resolution and it was passed was thank [Laughter] you all right moving over to staff and
professional comments councilman simonon do you have anything uh no I do not yes I do thank you mayor um first of all April shade roer will be H will be
having its annual pancake breakfast at Stein Harris School on the 13th of of April um all proceeds from that go to uh the high school scholarships um right now the
uh the cost for adults are $8 $3 for children and under three are free um it's it's at steinhauer school starts at 8 runs till noon in addition to the pancakes there is quite a few baskets uh
in a silent auction that you can have an opportunity take take a chance on um I have been walking through Collins Lake Collins Lane Park quite often um
two things I've noticed one is that where the lights have been installed the trenches are starting to fall in not all of them but many of them so we need to take a look at them and see
out if that was part of the uh proposal whoever installed them if they should need to come back and uh fill those trenches in gu the dirt could be settling it is s well in the recent rains you can see where some of them not all of them but many of them have fallen
in um the other thing on Collins Lane Park well in general uh as I walk around town I noticed that residents are not picking up after their dog and particularly at Collins Lake colins Lane where there's there's
disposals system right there that you can do it so there's no reason not to be able to do it at Colin's Lane part um and it's just it's just something that is respectful for for you to do if you have a dog dog soils have a bag you pick
it up and you can deposit it in the containers that's right there in con I've also noticed at other parts of town where I've walked so um please uh if you have a dog and you're walking them that's great but pick up after them because it's uh it's only the good thing
to do thank you m thank you Ellen anything have nothing thank you okay Susan Terry yes sir okay so I received an email from Carmen the environmental science teacher at the high school who was also in charge of unlist regarding some policy uh proposals so I handed them out to everybody from Council if
you can just take a look at them and let me know your thoughts um some events going on in town the maple sha bunny Trails looking for homes to participate in scavenger hunt so that Facebook page is up there if anybody wants to uh participate uh Township Easter egg hunt is April 6th at 1: p.m. at Aces field and the Maple Shade youth baseball and
Babe Ruth opening day is April 5th uh I also passed out the trans day of visibility Proclamation everybody should have a copy of that to look at I believe we have to decide on that tonight because it's March 31st should we do um
motion can just if everybody's in favor can do the proclamation does anybody have any comments motion or anybody favor anybody I'll make a motion for it I don't think we need okay good good good okay yeah okay thank
you um okay moving over to Old business operation you can mayor do you want to read that tonight oh I have to actually read it yes okay I read fast sorry all right trans day of visibility Proclamation whereas every March 31st marks International Day of
transgender visibility a day to recognize and center the voices and contributions of our gender diverse community of transgender to Spirit non-binary and intersect people in our Township and whereas all Americans have the right to self-determination adequate
health care and comprehensive free public education so that we all may live our lives as our truest selves and whereas this day is dedicated to celebrating the accomplishments and victories of our gender expansive Community while raising awareness of the work that still needs to be done to
address anti-transgender violence and become a truly Equitable community and whereas our transgender and gender diverse community members deserve love respect and a safe place to not not just survive but to thrive today's council is dedicated to doing our part and make this a reality whereas everyone should
use this day to raise awareness around discrimination and violence that trans people still face while also showcasing the beauty and power of visibility and pride our work does not stop when March 31st ends we must continue to uplift positive authentic voices from the transgender Community all year long and
do our part to ensure their safety so therefore let it be resolved we the township of Maple Shade Proclaim March 31st 2025 as transgender day of visibility in the town of Maple Shade and with this Proclamation affirms that all transgender people in our community are heard loved and belong and therefore
let it be resolved our commitment to advocating for transgender expansive right it's not just on March 31st but all year long is that all okay wonderful sorry it's first for me chance U moving over to Old business
operations sure thank you okay so the Department of Public Works has been actively inspecting trees and grounds throughout the community repairs to fields and playgrounds are ongoing alongside our routine inspections especially those that happen at Springtime we did just want to make note that trees that are located in the
right of way that's the space between the curb and the sidewalk are not automatically the responsibility of the township according to Township Code it is the homeowner's responsibility to maintain this area that said the township May perform work within the right of way when necessary however each situation is evaluated individually and
responsibility is determined on a case-by Case basis we mention that typically around this time of year just so people understand it's not that we just automatically take responsibility they think that we do um it depends on what we're doing but we are looking at those actively as we go on also residents can begin planning for our
annual townwide yard sale April 26th registration forms to be placed on the map and receive a sign can be found on our web page in the popup box or they can pick be picked up at the tax office window this past Wednesday our Recreation Department hosted a health and wellness Fair as part of the mayor's Wellness campaign representatives from
Jefferson Health Etna and Southern New Jersey family medical centers were on hand to provide Health screenings vaccinations and valuable Wellness information for those of you did come I think everybody walked out with bags of fruit had tons and tons of fruit um we've heard from several residents asking why these events are typically
held during daytime hours unfortunately many of the participating organizations have limited availability in the evenings that said Lauren is actively working to coordinate an evening event to ensure our working residents have the opportunity to attend as well so stay tuned for that on Saturday our land use
board members are going to be participating in a training session session hosted by tour Consulting the training will be held here in the municipal building from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon as many of you have likely noticed construction on the mixed use development along Main Street is progressing steadily we've been informed
that the property will be named Heritage on Maine and for those that are interested in rental details or joining the wait list information is available on RPM developments website and a direct link is also going to be included in our April newsletter um and then just finally in 2024 our Township employees
were invited to participate in a comprehensive independent survey focused on workplace culture leadership opportunities and more I'm proud to share this evening that the results are in and our organization has been recognized as one of advanced media's top 25 workplaces in New Jersey the official rankings are going to be
revealed in a special annual feature published on June 9th in Jersey's best magazine and in Sunday June 22nd edition of The Star Ledger so I want to give a very heartfelt thank you and congratulations to our staff for helping us earn this incredible honor it's definitely been a journey for all of us
uh one that's been filled with growth and collaboration and pride in the work we do together so hats off to them that's awesome thank you okay moving over to the township Engineers report welcome first one yeah first one y so um yeah good evening everybody um
and uh so I have a report from and first I'm going to start by saying um since it is my first meeting that um I thank you all for the appointment this year um and I look forward to working with you um our report is is from March 19th um
there's several items on here I mean I unless you say it one differently I'll just go through the entire important then you can ask questions at the end does that sound good um so first item is uh annual storm water report um which is due um May 1st um Alo will work with
public works and get that submitted to D by that deadline um next one is the stormw discharge General permit authorization renewal um so there's um DP had several um requirements when they put
out the new permit a few years ago and there are deadlines associated with that permit um one the deadline for for mapping um all the infrastructure in the town for storm water is the end of this year and there's also a um storm water
inventory report that also has to be completed by the end of this year um the mapping was started I Believe by uh uh the soil district and the manager just gave me a zip Drive um so I guess I can
see what they've done so far um but there's going to have to be a decision made on who's going to finish the mapping whe whether that's um The Soil District our office um or I'm not sure what there may have been a contract with a prior engineer um so that decision has
to be made okay and I am still waiting for the um to find out exactly where we are in this entire proc process I have sent out the emails so yeah I mean the the um the inventory report can't be done until the mapping is finished um because you need the the
mapping to um one of the the components of it you got to put the you have to put several Maps into this plan and then you also have to figure out the drainage area to each outfall and in order to do that you got of got you know you go with
at where the end of the outfall is and backtrack through all the inlets through town you got to you we got it's quite a bit of work frankly um so we need to get that done um that mapping done you know kind of as soon as PR possible and then um you know Council will have to make a
decision on who's going to do the inventory report um hopefully El um next next issue is uh 528 Cutler Avenue um so there's a drainage problem there um it's been a drainage problem
for a while my understanding is and this is um there is actually a pipe out there and and an inlet um but they're not functioning um so don't really know the size of the pipe um the the Public Works
was going to open up the inlet in Mill Street and go down there and um take a look at it for me because I I was hoping that we could potentially um just um video and send a cutter up there if it's
just roots and cut the roots um but the the Public Works um kind of thinks that it might be collapsed P which if that's the case then we got a bigger problem here um now you know Roots you cut them out of the way you could line it maybe
potentially if it's collapse pipe you know depends upon how many collapses we got there it's old um there's also a problem there's a um sanitary lateral um for the home on M Street very close proximity to the this drain pipe um now
when I was out there there was some water flowing out of that pipe a little bit it's not totally clogged um but we have to um I'm kind of waiting right now the the latest conversation that I had with Pat was that they were going to go out there and he was going to go in the
backyards and see whether there was settlement um which would indicate a collapse in the pipe um correct so yeah that that's why know we held off on going and trying to get video quotes until we kind of yeah I think he was waiting too for some of the water to
subside so that he could get out there and be able to see yeah right correct yeah it's definitely top of his top of his list yeah so and he'll coordinate that with you yeah understood yeah um so I mean that that pipe goes you
know there's no easement for it um it goes underneath a couple of sheds in the rear yard of one of the homes um so won't be easy to replace um you know potentially have to you know we'd have to require an easement if we're going to put a new
pipe in um and we'd have to um move the shed out of the way potentially um there's a chance we might be able to um directional drill but I'm not really crazy about directional drilling a gravity pipe um and then you need you
know you have to have a an area near the street to uh open up right to accept the drilling um so that's you know a work in progress you know we uh um the next issue um is another
drainage problem which was um brought up by the resident earlier um Thomas Avenue drainage um so yes um obviously this has been going on for a long time when we were the engineer previously um we had done some work back in
2019 um we had gone out and gotten quotes to have the pipes in the street um videoed and and cleaned um that pricing varied at the time and we're we're actually um out
right now we've asked the same companies to give us revised quotes um back at that time um cleaning and videoing was about 30 grand and um just video itself was 13 to 16 and that was never done
correct that was not done yeah so there's 4,700 ft of pipe between Thomas Avenue and um steinhauer Lake and that's that's what was would be videoed and and cleaned potentially um I mean if there's
a blockage in the piping somewhere obviously that would if we can find it and and resolve it um if it's just a lot of sediment um that would help too but frankly um we did an analysis in 2019 um
a stormw drainage analysis coming into Thomas Avenue and and the the the drainage area is substantial the flow is substantial and the pipes are fairly big but they're still not big enough um and that's you know so if a pipe doesn't
have the capacity to handle the flow it's it's going to flood the street okay um so uh me we can look at some of these issues with the existing piping but you know I'm thinking that the long-term old
solution really is additional piping which obviously be very expensive um and and not easy because putting in gravity piping in existing streets you have to deal with um existing utilities um and
potentially having to move them um grab you know any water main or you know gas Mains that kind of thing that can be moved okay so right now we're just getting quotes right now right yep that's correct and we'll we'll see what we find
you know um know actually mean obviously we'll see what the price is and then you'll make a decision what you want to move forward what's the timeline on something like that I'm sorry what's the timeline that so you get prices sure yeah um should probably in another week I would
think we would be able to get them all okay yeah before we move forward the the infrastructure in this town needs some serious addressing as you will know um and in my mind before we go spending
good money for bad money we need to really get an analysis of the whole town the storm water drain system as a whole so that we can start looking into replacing it because the area that you're speaking of through there and in the firehouse that was originally a
crook in a swamp area in this town so it makes sense if the water all goes there you know I don't know what it's going to take if you know it's all down downhill down to the crook but I think you know as far as you know what needs to go to
the state I would like to see the council have the engineer go through and do a com comprehensive plan on the storm drain system in the town which inevitably will help us for doing roads down the future and to get a handle on
it so that we can start fixing all this stuff and stop stop the flooding um there's no standards in this town for where things go for roads and what we do and don't do and I'm right now working on standards for this town
so that when we have an engineer come in here and we say we want to do a road we have that we give it to them and they understand what needs to be done um because we'll go through and we'll put you know roads fixing the road
is not the problem as far as I'm concerned it's just putting a bandaid on it the infrastructure has to be addressed in this town and you know we have to get a plan together to do everything and start looking at the roads objectively
so um you know as far as the Cutler Avenue thing I did have a question where is that drain coming and going to and what is it servicing so it's only running uh through the rear
yards um back to the the the um the out or the or the inlet to it is not really known because it was flooded when I went out there um so there's an inlet in the back of Buttonwood Park that was
you can see it physically see it full of water Y and then I'm told that there's a pipe coming into it and a pipe going out of it so the pipe from that Inlet goes to the inlet in M Street and that's the one that um Public Works thinks has collapsed um and or there's roots in it
uh the the pipe going out the other direction to the backyard of 528 um that I I didn't see the the end of it so I don't really know where the end of it is because it was flooded when I went there um and well I was we're I
was hoping that eventually when the water goes down or Public Works can get out there and pump out that Inlet we can get inside the inlet and see the pipe that comes out both sides of into that Inlet right um so that's to be done um
the the homeowner um from 528 um indicated that the water was actually going the reverse Direction into his yard uh sometimes I guess coming into that perhaps into that Inlet
and um backing up or he also thought that the pipe was perforated um don't really know um and so he he uh stopped he tried to block it from coming backwards to his property well you can see where it is I was out there and
walked out so I'm well aware of what you're talking about out there and the park side of it is all Highlands it's not going to it's going to go and push the other way and you can see where all the wood are Lays back there so yeah I was when I was there that day it was completely flooded so well and there's a
lot of trees out there if the plate was compromised I mean it could be the roots in it but if you cut the roots out of it then you're going to wind up having the holes in the pipe yeah well that that that section going between 528 and the inlet I would replace that yeah that's
easy to do um because you got access there um going the other direction is the more problematic I mean you got the two sheds and you're going through people's backyard instead of you know in the park um you know replacing a pipe in the in the within the um the park lot if
they're connected from one side to the other there may be a possibility that we can just pull it from the one side and not go through the people's yard and go the other way maybe through the park that we have to or going up to mil how does that where where does that
come to when it's coming in there that you're going down from um the street towards you know Cutler so that's a low area right down in the backyards there so you can't you know really reverse Direction the piping be you have what
that's why I was asking where it's coming to and where it's going from well right now that's you don't know though because well all I know is that the drain pipe goes to the inlet in West Mill and know between that Inlet and the
inlet in the park and then from that Inlet uh going towards um um the the low area that that's all I know I don't know where it ends you know um you have to find it yeah I got to
find it um so uh getting back to um Thomas um yeah so uh the plan right now is to just get these quotes um now as far as um your
your proposal to um model the whole whole Township well that would be really expensive just so you know um now there is um as part of this inventory report I mean we're getting a mapping of the system we have to calculate drainage
areas so that would help with something like that but the problem is when you're when you're doing all this mapping they're not they're not getting the pipe sizes um so that's counter counterproductive at
the end of the day um well I mean it depends upon how much you want to spend while you're doing the mapping so right now um you know it's it's being done by The Soil Conservation District and uh they're just kind of locating the inlets and that's all that's required it's not
it's not required to to map the pipes but yeah I mean it could be done some some my understanding is that some towns are doing that but obviously more expensive to do it that way um and and then you would you really would need to know um pretty accurate
elevations um so you know the slope of the pipe um again more expensive to you know like we we've done some towns where we just use an app on a phone and uh that was provided by D and it's very you
know gives you the location of the inlet but it's not going to give you a vertical and you'd need You' need a a survey grade instrument to do that um so again more expensive well we have a lot of issues with water in town yeah you know I mean it can all be done but just
you know depends on how much you want to spend so you'll have the quotes for the April 10th meeting yeah um oh stop control so um we were asked um to do a preliminary
investigation of um two intersections High Street and Fernwood a and southw landing in Mill Road um so um just to to start I mean stop signs are not supposed
to be used for speed control I know if everybody knows that um so there's warrants you have to do a warrant analysis and um uh some of the warrants include um crash history sight
lines um and um eight hour volume and then there's other factors like schools in the area that kind of a lot of now now as far as volume so let's just start with um crash
experience so um we could get from um from the police department um we haven't investigated that yet my initial approach was to look at site distance and um um both of those in well no just
the um the South Fork Landing intersection to me clearly has a sight distance issue um the other intersection I don't see as having a sight distance issue the um the the intersection down
from that on High Street going closer to um Route 73 that has a sight distance issue there because there's fencing on blocking the vision um so that might you know we probably could look at stop
control there but not sure that that's um you know um what you're looking for I mean because I was tasked to really you want to look at you know this um intersection of um High Street and Fernwood yes right for stop signs yeah
um so I I you know now there to do um the volume analysis that we would have you'd have to hire a traffic engineer so we don't do that me we don't have counting equipment and so um that we'd
have to go out for quotes and you know you know getting close from two or three Traffic Engineers if that's the way way you want to proce from that intersection um I I would feel comfortable with you know making a recommendation just on site distance you
know from my professional experience and and what I saw out there um that the intersection of um Fork Landing um meets meets the war um so you know we could we could put the stop control in
there but the um this other intersection I I don't I I don't from site distance I couldn't recommend it I think the issue is high in Fernwood right yeah that's where everybody's getting size the traffic engineer we have the shared service with the county they do have Traffic Engineers I'm wondering if
that's something we could reach out to them and ask if they could do it I I don't know but it might be worth exploring yeah I've never used the county to do that before like we have in other towns yeah going out and gotten
quotes right I mean but it's worth it I mean we already in a shared service with them it would be yeah ask the question yeah the wor they can say is no so maybe we start there and and then if not get the quotes for it and then I'll at least address that that intersection for us okay we want
the Blinky ones so yeah Rick if you could do that if you could reach out to no I guess the other thing is on Fork Landing or you comfortable with just um using the um the sight distance warrant analysis or do you want a full warrant analysis and
if you want the full warrant analysis again you get a traffic engineer to do it could we get the same engineer to look at both Susan I that's what I would suggest I mean we're going might as well get ask the county about both of them right surely right and would would you suggest having the traffic engineer as
opposed to this the site inspection I mean I in my opion that that intersection meets a site distance warrant okay so as I say I I'd be willing to yeah um make a recommendation the the stop signs always stop being
installed at that intersection okay so if council's comfortable with that then at that intersection we do the site distance based on what Rick is recommending and then at the um high and Fernwood we do the the traffic engineer yeah but that's that's a council's decision but our engineer is saying that
that it warrants the one on four warrants I'm going with with that yeah yeah Susan when you when you asked that traffic engineer or see if they'll come out to look at that would it be possible to check the speeding on that cuz I mean I know what
Rick's saying that stop signs aren't made to control speed but yeah the accidents on that street have to be more than anybody else's in town I mean my house is start with the police department me actually I didn't we didn't get this we didn't get from the
police department Department the the crash data I mean if I got that um and we could look at it there's there's set criteria how many crashes inide of three years um there's probably been once one a month this year so far okay well if it exceeds that then that's a war that's it
meets the warrant um so yeah I mean we can do that I do think we need to do that yeah accidents let's just go it through the accidents yeah so if you could reach out to the police right yep thank you
I'll send you um Matt Charles and Lieutenant Davis's information that's who our traffic controls our Traffic Division we'll get it from them okay okay um yeah I mean as far as the the warrant for the volume I mean when I was
out there um I I I didn't see enough volume out there I don't think that it's going to meet that warrant um you have to go like 2:00 in the morning well it goes in waves I mean the morning I was only out there for a certain amount of time you're right so you need
that's why hav do there's enough volume on volum there's enough volume on that street all right thank you for doing that um yeah so the last one was um uh the the prior dot project which um you know was completed and um was on
maintenance Bond um there was a complaint um about from one of the residents and I did speak with her and she seemed satisfied um so um yeah exactly all right so that's good one out
of five all right did you have anything else that's it any questions for the engineer any other questions Andrew no okay uh bedc report Sandy isn't here but I think Jenna is going to give one yes
hello so for the bedc we met last week and um in our January meeting I proposed to them that they come up with a more formal goal um a lot of the members are on the commission until 2027 um it's not my commission it's theirs it's composed
of business owners residents um stakeholders and towns so throughout that um month of January February they discussed goals and things that they wanted to see got me their goals and I compil them so um the bedc in our last meeting came up with the formal set of
goals and a strategic plan on how to meet those goals um all while preserving Maple shade's charm we're not trying to change anything we're trying to preserve what we have but grow on what we have so as part of this plan the bedc formed a couple committees to drive those key
goals um one of them was an existing committee but they kind of buffed it up a little bit is an art committee focused on bringing more public art to Maple Shade enhancing our visual appearance and aesthetic um a ordinance Review Committee um they're looking to work with you may T Rico which you spoke
about kind of reviewing some of the ordinances that are business related that could stall businesses coming to Maple Shade or just see where we are at compared to other towns that have businesses come in kind of touching based on what Miss Mortimer said to you guys last um meeting just trying to help
streamline if possible and where we can um an event committee that will get together and continue expanding on the community events that residents love um the cybul sale ladies we work with them in some form or way um bringing new Comm new community activities and events as
well as expanding on what we currently have the we working with the recreation director um concerts in the park and things like that that we can just enjoy as a community invite visitors to see why we love Maple Shade um we're also looking we also created somewhat of a
Community Technology committee something along the lines of that um aiming to bring a resident focused um resident focused improvements including digital tools to kind of preserve Maple shetes history online and an easy way to access
it as well as making it easier for residents to stay informed um and have the ability to communicate with what's happening in town um making it a little bit easier and not just getting their information from Facebook I heard she said he said um so that's what we have
done last month um the Committees are meeting before our next meeting in May and we'll have updates on how far they've gotten where they're progressing um so that's what we did last month um just reminders that I have the bedc is a dynamic group of residents business
owners organizational representative stakeholders committed to Growing Maple Shade only bringing the best for Maple Shade we currently have two positions open on our commission um and if anyone's interested in joining the bedc um you can find an application on our
website Maples shade.com um complete the resident volunteer form and then the other question I get often is when did the paer drive ends and we are having that open year round it's going to be a revolving drive so anyone needs to add a paver to Main Street
something commemorating a loved one uh special date in town um or just want your name on Main Street you can buy a p at any time during the year our first order will be um in the spring once the weather actually breaks and stops being cold um so if you want to paper with our
first first batch uh we'll have to have that uh application by April 25th thank you that's all I have thanks thanks all right moving over sustainable report well nothing really new to report since the last meeting other than they uh they had their opening of the community garden this past Sunday um and
they're also working hard on the farmers market they're looking for businesses U if anybody's interested in being a vendor and that's all I have for sustainable moving over to the request to repurchase a fire truck Ellen what would you like me to tell you I I
thought we end it with you were something I thought that's how we end it and I could be wrong that I was going to read do what anybody no well the the way it's read or the way the law
is read it's my understanding and it says it can be purchased if it's has the uh the right credentials for it um so that you have to have the two bids you have to go out and get two bids but an individual you can the township can
purchase from an individual as long as the individual complies with the U information that was set forth in that email that was circulated last week which was or at the last meeting which includes a business registration certification which an individual can
apply for and um the other uh certifications that have to be submitted like um equal opportunity and those kind of things so it it can be purchased from an individual but there do have to be two
bids two bids not three two believe it's two so we just have to check and see if those credentials are met and then we can move forward with it has to go after for those bids yesc so yeah but he doesn't have what we were talking about last time was that he
would transfer the uh truck to the LLC he doesn't have to do that and you're not allowed to speak okay anybody else have anything with the fire truck I know Mr Walters is away otherwise he would be here he's on vacation I think this this week so I'm
sure he'll be at the next meeting okay all right so moving over to new business um renaming of father Nolan field we had approved to rename it to Kenny carer Jr request we had a request
we had a I'm sorry we had a request sorry words matter here that's right um so we do have if we would like to move forward with a resolution to do that we can title it r78 yeah so I Council was given the
letter that was uh on behalf of Maple Shade Youth Baseball I think everybody got that um so yes so Council would just need to decide whether or not they want to I did prepare a resolution this evening knowing that um knowing that baseballs opening day is coming so they
probably want to have it named before then additionally going with that mayor what we had talked about too was that Township has no formal process as to how to rename fields we really should have something so that we're just not renaming to have some sort of designation there as far as how long if
it's going to be a permanent if we're going to you know sometimes somebody will come in and say that they want to do this for you know 5 years 10 years those sorts of things um so I did send over a couple things just over to Ellen um just to look at just to so we can go into possibly doing an ordinance I can
send all those out to you as well just to give you some ideas okay um the other thing too that I wanted to discuss kind of with this along if if you do decide this evening is that there's a way to be able to generate Revenue um and it would be with naming rights and that would go into our ordinance and I'm only going to
use the turf field because the turf is probably one of the it's the more the known fields in town we can also use the skate park but what it would be is if the township has this policy then we could put out a bid it's called a concession um and basically we look for sponsors and I'm just going to use
homing Acme and it would be you know acne field at you know at at Solomon field where wood Lawn Park whatever that would be but then there's a list of you know there's all these credentials or all these criteria that they have to meet um but they pay the municipality and that is so that they could advertise
their name along there and typically those go anywhere from 5 to 10 years you don't really see many um longer than that again it's a way to generate Revenue it's a way to be able to keep our Fields uh maintained a little bit more than what we would another one again the skate park Tony um oh my gosh
I had his name today Tony Hawk that's it Tony Hawk thanks Tony Hawk has a large a large Foundation that typically you can you know you can reach out to and tell them and show them our skate park is used by I think it's probably not even 50/50 I think it's more than 50% of the people that come you know we had
somebody a couple years ago that wanted to come and video there um so that would be something that we could look at if you're interested in doing that I'll work with the solicitor and putting together an ordinance some ideas in there draft pass that around um again it's it's just some another way to think
it's a great idea the only thing is is the organizations that are getting sponsors we can't have an effect in them because if they're the ones that are generating the revenue because the Township's not f the bill for something if they're going to take away from that we have to be able to compensate them
for it so if we're going to do it we need to make sure it's not affecting what they're currently doing how would it affect in what way well if the sponsors I mean if they're going up there and getting the Acme to sponsor it I mean Oh you mean the sponsor wasse uh yeah I don't think anybody's getting but I mean yeah no I agree with that this
would be more on a corporate base like Banks and yeah we would do it more on aate saying as long as it's not interfering with the organization as a whole if it is then we have to to reevaluate it or put something in the wording so that it doesn't affect them
right and again you don't even have to it just if I think first we have to typ we want to do some sort of policy for that and if we do then you know we can we can work all that in there so if council's okay with that like I said I'll work with the solicitor is all that property owned down at Woodland complex
by the township yes yes all right and I did check with Green Acres as well to make sure that it was something that we could do because that is a Green Acres Park and yes it is something that we can can um we can do okay so I'm okay with Ellen working with Susan on that is everybody else good yes okay well I'm
everybody say yes everybody said yes and this will be resolution 2025 d-78 it'll be a resolution renaming father Nolan field at wood long complex in honor of the late Kenny Carter Jr um I need a motion yes anybody so be second all in
favor be who second oh comments roll call Mr Kaufman yes Mr s yes Mr znik yes mayor T yes all right moving over to the train commission last
meeting um Dave Smith Jr brought up a a presentation did everybody have a chance to look at it and does anybody have any questions or comments Etc did everybody look at it yes nothing
we're good to move forward yes yes so I did pull the lease too for the train commission just to ensure um and we are and it does say that it's used for a community uh that building must be used for a community center only so I reached out to New Jersey transit to confirm that when they say community
center they don't mean a community center like a basketball courts and everything in there um they have not gotten back to me but my interpretation of that and I if you think differently I mean we're using it for community events the bo Scouts are going to be there train commission is going to be there you're going to use it I assume you're
going to open it up to the community so to me that would be a community center we fall within I think that when Main Street had it we reached out to um the trained people and they said that it was fine to use it for that purpose so I I I would have the same type of use yeah I
don't think absolutely okay so we can move forward with that and do we need a contract a lease verbal agreement what's the next step we should put together some sort of written lease together some something that just or at least some sort of agreement that gives permission for them to use that and obviously
they'll make you know whatever the based on what they said here um you know whatever improvements are going to be because there should be still things that come before the council um if there are going to be improvements there it just should not that they not that you'll do anything incorrect it's just we want to protect everybody all sides
so um yeah so we'll draw that up go for Ellen to do that okay uh cannabis distance is the last item I had asked Susan to send out the zoning and the ordinance I don't know if everybody had a chance to look at that I didn't send
it out I apologize I have that was um I had questioned a distance at the last meeting most surrounding towns are a thousand from the property line ours is 250 from the front door um I was reminded that there is a Zone plan in this so does anybody
have any questions does anybody want to change this keep it as is it's just that we're a new Council and just want to fresh go ahead I'm sorry go ahead no I was just said the reason that it was it was originally we went back and forth and cheuck you can speak to this too
that it was originally 1,000 ft and as we started looking at it a little bit more th000 feet was just so far we couldn't get we couldn't really get anything so it was reduced to the 250 because the process is is that a cannabis applicant still has to come before the Cannabis revieww commission
that includes several people you know throughout the municipality we look at their application and we are looking at the site it was also recommended by our cannabis attorney Ron mandelo that we did reduce it to the 250 um specifically because then instead of spot zoning
because you can't spot Zone and you're not picking certain developments or certain businesses through town it really gave us a lot more flexibility so that was why that's the history behind it as to why it was changed to the 250 there's still two entities that it has to go through it has to go to the you
know to this advisory committee still has to come before Council for a resolution of support and then if it needs to go before one of the boards it has to go there okay so it still would have to go through one of the boards it does have to come to the board just for okay I'm done sorry okay that's fine
anybody have any questions on that Andrew I think you had something well I think we should move it back to the thousand feet I mean eventually it's going to come here but knowing Maple Shade like I know it it becomes problematic there's Spa there's places out on the Nola road that it can
go to in a in a business district that exists now where it's away from residential um 250 ft is not not a long distance and if it has to go through review on the other end
then I don't I don't think flexibility is something that we need to provide for that I mean you and I talked about it so yes so so a th000 feet I mean did you the other side of I'm just thr think not
other side of 38 not non-residential side right is that I'm just trying to think of areas it's from the front door can be manipulated somebody can move the door in a building so it should be from the property line in my mind that that
eliminates that problem right there because people are creative so I mean look it eventually is going to come here that's not the point but I think we need to have have more control over it where we're putting it there's not too many places in this town that isn't
affected by um kids and places where people live and that's just the Dynamics and the the the way the town is that's not something that we did however there is areas in this town where it can be put where it's away from all that and
you know I don't know what the the police's stance is on it but I think it's more controllable it's a way it's it at night time it's not in a district where we have to worry about with families and what would happen to the business so um that's just my opinion
with it I'm okay with the way it stands now as long as it goes it has to go through our zoning board or our planning board to get approval CU that would give the residents in that neighborhood a chance to speak and then that board hearing the
residents could make their own determination on that yes and currently just we had three um we the previous Council had only said that they were going to do three retail cannabis locations um we do have all three resolutions of support out right now one does expire in May um that would have
been the former K Bridal site um the other two have already been given I did get an email just before uh here but the other one was um the fur old fur Diane Furs that was one of the locations and then um the old Sun Bank on Lenola
so those are uh that's what we have so far that's it there's no more resolutions for um Susan when that I'm sorry when that expires um does that person have the right to go to a different location or do they just lose that so right now the one that's at Cape
R and it's they do have the right it stays for one year it's that's the length of the resolution right um so in between from now until May they could come back but they have to go through the whole process again so they can't just I'm going they have to come back before before the Cannabis Review Committee we have to review it after
that it's council's prerogative whether or not they want to extend it or say no and put that resolution back out as available I do have I do have several other applicants that we will then look at those other applicants for where they wanted to go and see okay thank you okay
anybody else okay um that was the last item anybody have anything so remaining the way is for now I guess so no changes yes I'm okay with it I mean Andrew was the only one that questioned
it everybody else I'm just one person mayor can I say one more sure um so I don't don't want to brush off councilman's desire to map the whole uh Township if there is any thought that you're going to proceed in that fashion
um then you should make a decision about how you're going to map the rest of the township with the you know the inlets and and how that's being done um we don't have a contract to do that the the soil conservation service did part of the town I don't really know how much
yet um it would be more expensive to do it that way but it could be done it could be done in the long run we have the map of it we don't have any information on it now if we want to move forward and fix the problems we need to know what the size of the pipes are where the water is moving slope and everything yeah well
can you at least that as a proposal that that's something that we can have for future usage it's not going to get any cheaper in the future and if we want to move forward with the infrastructure we have to know what we're dealing with you know where the inlets are everybody knows where they are they drive over
them but the pipe sizes and where the water goes to and the management of it is the issue here and if we're going to be doing streets personally it's a waste of money to put asphalt on it if we don't fix the infrastructure period that's that's my belief in it and if
we're going to do a rude we need to do it right and get our money's worth out of it for Aesthetics and for a lot of reasons so that's the reason I'm bringing it up once that survey is done it's good forever and then we have it it's done and as we do roads we can
modify it or look at it or figure out exactly what we have to do and get a game plan from start to finish for it well I mean it would be very difficult for us to give you a proposal until the the inlets um are mapped um you know to
give you give you give you a proposal to analyze your whole system I mean it I've never never attempted to do something like that um so what you have what the storm water inlets of what Burlington County has given that the information on
the on the thumb drive that will have all that information on there it will have the inets on it that's it okay it's not going to have not going to have a great elevation it's not going to have a pipe size not going to have a pipe invert so that's what's being proposed then to map those inlets to do the rest
of if you want to do a full analysis of your storm water system you need all that information um so that's that's the question do you want to well the other issue that we have is the Sun Pumps going into the system so one of the
things that I'm thinking about to alleviate that problem because it goes into the sewer system is to integrate that with the storm water management at houses and curb lines when we're doing that and have the people tiing to that where it's going into the stormw or not
into the sewer system so there's ideas that I have but we need to know all that and we need to compensate for it but the only way to do that is to know what size pipes are in there if they're going to be adequate to handle it and if it's going to be able to move the water because there is a lot of places that
flood in this town yeah um yeah it would be quite a task I'll just put it that way to well it would be I'm not saying it's not going to be a task but to do something right you have to have the maps for it and understand
it yeah is it possible that we do maybe like in quadrants so like we're not doing it all at once but do like certain sections maybe so that at least we can and then we can budget it out right yeah right I mean you could go to your outfall right I mean you could do I mean we're going to map you know the alphs
you're mapping as part of what's required by the the end of the year you have to determine the drainage area to each of the apples so you could you know maybe do an analysis of just you know one alall at a time kind of thing not do the
whole town um and and then you might just want to do if there's areas that we know are flooding right that kind of thing does it make sense then to maybe start with like the Thomas area and the Cutler areas since those are two pretty bad yeah I don't know what's been mapped
so far that's the other thing you know but um they may have they may have already mapped I think you have that contact information like you're welcome to reach out and ask them if they've mapped anything um I don't think F county has well you just gave me a zip drive from
what the county mapped correct right correct that's everything that they've done 202 23 24 so how about you look at the Zip drive you come back to us with some kind of idea suggestion proposal I mean I'll have to coordinate with the manager and and RVE too about
what they're doing absolutely so okay all right moving over to on the business okay um well it's not really I don't know it may have been done under professional comments but the Asis Field park that they're renovating
working on I went by over the weekend and took pictures of the fencing um and I did send an email to you Susan um and they kind of went over there and put the fence back up but I would like to know why they took the fence St it the park
seems to be open and now if the Park is open there's no fence stopping a kid running from the the the playground area out into the street that's a busy street there's liability issues there that are going to come back to haunted Township and either a fence has to be put up
across that that plastic fence is not going to cut it for somebody getting in there we're going to want it getting sued because we have the deepest Pockets if that if if that firm gets sued for a kid or somebody getting hurt on the property it needs to be secured properly not with a snow fence so they were told
to put up all right well I'm just bringing it up and making it public record absolutely it needs to be done yes so that somebody doesn't get hurt close the park if you're going to work on it so that there's no kids in there but the the person that complained to me saw kids playing on the stone Pile in
there we can't have that that's a severe liability to us so it was brought up with the engineer I brought it up twice and my second email to them was that I did not want to see the snow fencing that it was anticipated that they were going to have a true temporary chain link fence put up at least the Temporaries with the sandbags on it and
that is what I told them I asked for so that should be done well I'm just bringing it up to cover everybody they have not done it to to this point I drove past there on the way up here and it's still the same one correct if there's something that we can do temporarily to close the park so people
don't go in there to help our cause and mitigate the liability then maybe we should do that and look at something until they get the fence in there but it's going to become a problem if they don't address it okay that's all I got all right resolution number 2025 r79 is a
resolution to meet an executive session for the following matters relating to Public Safety and property 37 North lipincott Avenue motion to close so made second it all in favor all right all right formal action may be taken upon the conclusion of the Clos
session everybody thank you for coming and have a great night