Henry, would you mind just sending that um panelist request again if you're able to to Jean? He's on. He just can't. Yeah, he didn't have it pop up. >> I just sent it again, but if there's any more issues, please let me know. >> Okay, thanks, >> Henry. I have a hunch that you sent it
to me because I got that I got something unfamiliar asking me to be a panelist. >> Yeah, that's sort of that's sort of how we get people into the discussion area, but but here you are. Um I think we have
everyone now. Um, I do want to note that I see um Jim Zissen from the from the select board and and Lee and Will from um from the from the media. And I just want to say if you have any questions
during our discussion, please raise your hand. I'd like to be able to answer them if we can. Um I'm going to record this meeting and um we can get started. All right. Right. So, I'll uh call the
meeting to order at 10:05 p.m. And the first item on our agenda just to get through is um public comment. And I don't know if anybody has any public comment. Uh Jim or Lee or Will, please
raise your hand. Um okay, great. So, we're moving on to our first agenda item, which is the general contractor bid discussion and approval. Um, >> Henry, I have a a presentation. It's just short. It's what I sent out via
email as well. If you'd like me, I can I can >> Yeah, I actually was I was about to suggest. >> Sounds good. >> Please go ahead. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Can you all see my screen? Okay. >> Yes. Fantastic. >> Okay. Let me put it in.
Okay. So, um this is the schedule you're familiar with. Um not going to go through this in detail, but we are here um today to talk about the general contractor um bids that were received. Uh so last um two Fridays ago uh we
received the filed sub bids um and uh and we um and then last Friday we received the general bids. So, um I would, you know, suggest maybe opening up for discussion. Here I have a few more slides just to show um mandatory requirements. Um we did go through and
check those. Um all of the contractors that were submitted were pre-qualified. They all acknowledged all the agenda. They signed their bid forms. Um and this was all submitted on bid docs. Uh it also um in the bid form it shows the filed submitters that they've included
um in their bid. And you can see they're all the same. They've all included um Capeway for roofing, uh Robert Irvine for plumbing, Eiamonte for HBAC and systems for electrical. So these are all um correspondent with the numbers that we received for the filed sub bids. Um
and so now the general bids have taken them um into their bids and um let's see. Okay, so um I've also separated out you know the alternate pricing. So the bid um for the general contractor or the budget for the general contractor that
is included in the budget is um just over 11 million. Uh so the low biders at 8.9 and so total under budget is a little over 2.1 million. So um that's great news. We got great bid coverage um with six biders um bidding this.
And uh I also have a few slides on the Whoops. a few slides. Um, this was information received by Garland. Um, and uh, yeah, I can, you know, this this was it for the presentation. So, I'm happy to, you know, go back to any information that's
needed. I think I am frozen right now. Can you all still hear me, though? >> Yeah, we can hear you. Great. >> We can hear you. We You're not moving and but the screen is moving. >> Sounds good. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Um, and the screen is moving. Okay, so I'll just land here and um turn
it back over to you, Henry. Sure. I mean, so I think really the the dis we are taking the low bidder, right? Um, Mike, that's what we're required to do by the law.
And >> yeah, by law, we have to take low bid. >> Yep. And >> they're all pre-qualified. >> Yep. I think the question was was if if the alternate came in at less than the primary bid, there was going to be a discussion about do we go with the
alternate and I'm not sure how much of a discussion we're going to have about that because it's it's clear that it did not come in under. >> So there was a um table that Lena flashed on the screen. I certainly couldn't absorb what it was and if she shared that by email. By the way, Lena,
I didn't get that email. Can you summarize for us what this tells you? >> Sure. I would ask so this information um RDA received from Garland I believe and Jean if if you want to speak to this or Molly they sent this to me to put into
the presentation. So you're correct it was not sent out before this meeting u but this was a summary table that was sent by um Garland. >> Yeah. So um hi everybody. It's Gene Raymond. Um, we did we did receive this from Garland unsolicited. Um, and I
don't have I don't have any problem showing it to you and I don't um have any reason to doubt it. But when we looked at the bid results, um, it's clear it's 2.1 million under if you stay with the PVC,
which in this table would be one, two, three. The fourth chart over from the left says John's Manville PVC. That's the base bid. Uh and there's some various technical statistics with it. Um
and then I was curious if the alternate was accepted, would you still be at or below budget? And I think by my calculations, even if you accept the liquid applied alternate, you're still 50,000 under the budget. So then the
question is, is there anything about the liquid applied that would lead someone to say yes, it's worth a couple million dollars? Um, and so again, this came from the liquid applied
manufacturer. Uh, and anything in in in the second column from the left, which is highlighted in green, they see as an advantage over PVC. So, uh, the first one is, um, care. Well, now I can't see
it. >> We lost when we lost, uh, Lena. Yeah. >> But, you know, in in their opinion, and again, I don't have any reason to doubt their their technical statistics. Maybe while Oh, maybe Lena will um come back
up. Um, they they say that it has a a stronger it's a stronger membrane with more resistance to tearing. Um it's a thicker membrane and more flexible even under low temperatures uh
than PVC. Um it's a um a a a single membrane as opposed to PVC which is a series of sheets which are then welded together uh where they come together
and um oh um our bid documents are set up so that the roof has to be done before school starts. Um, so you know, in a whatif situation where weather or some other uh event causes the
construction to be delayed into the school year or the finishing up in the school year, um, you know, Garland would point out that their system doesn't have mechanical fastening and um, it would be um wouldn't have any noise uh, and it
wouldn't have any odor um, if there were students or staff inside the building. So, that's kind of a highlevel summary. Um, it sounds like there's some pros. Um, but um whether it's worth $2 million
is above our pay grade. >> Yes. Uh Karema. >> Yeah. So, um actually Oh, you're muted. I'm sorry.
Okay, you can hear me now. >> Yes. >> Okay, so I have a couple questions. Um the first one is when we're looking at the alternate um well actually high level when we say our budget I'm assuming it's just the construction costs and we have um additional budget
for our own contingencies or is that like our to when we say when we're comparing what our budget is is that everything when we're talking about where we're below and um above >> we we're simp we're talking about the construction line the rest of the budget
remains intact for this discussion today. So yeah, this is under construction line costs >> just construction. Okay. So and when we look at so like for instance I I know we're not sharing the screen but like KBAN and their alternate was the 1.8 But
if we accept an alternate from say and this is what I need an explanation like Corolla was at 2.3 but their alternate said 80,000 then they're less if we go with the alternate than Cape Capeway. I I guess
I'm trying to figure that piece out unless this was wrong in this sheet that I was sent and I'm and I might be looking at the wrong thing. >> I can I can elaborate Kareema if you'd like. >> Okay. So, I'm trying to like figure that out. Yeah, >> absolutely. Absolutely. So, um yes. So,
you're referring to the filed sub bids that and I'm sorry that I crashed in the middle of the meeting. It's like the worst nightmare. Um so, you're referring to the filed sub bids that were received um two Fridays ago. And so, we did receive the filed sub bids from the um contractors, including the roofers who
included their um deduct their either add or deduct pricing. And then 7 days later we we receive the general bids. And so the general biders that are up on this screen um they can choose who they
include for a file center. Okay. So yeah and then Corolla and then there was um one more I can't I think it was I can't remember the name of the other roofer but they actually >> three of them have negative alternates. It's Corolla, Triumph and Gibson which I'm confused why we have three biders
who are doing a negative and then two are a positive. I know. And we can't So, and we can't do any real outreach. >> Yeah. Because it's public bidding. So, I haven't, you know, I haven't done any outreach since we've received any bids or during the bid time. Every conversation
um has to be written in email and then an addendum issued. So, I know it is confusing on why some were ads and some were deducts, but um I guess we really, you know, we really won't know unless >> it's a huge swing. >> It is. Yeah, I mean like >> you go with one guy, you're gonna it's
like a swing of a couple million. So >> anyways, I it's just hard to figure that piece out. Okay, >> understood. Yeah, >> something we can do. >> I know there isn't um I mean, you know, it's also all of these um biders here did include Capeway in their pricing. So
they chose to take Capeway and so that's why the ad >> Yeah, because they're going with the base and they're not worrying about the ad alternate. I mean, so it kind of puts us in this dilemma where if we wanted to, we can't even pick what would be the most cost effective for us. >> But >> Mhm.
>> Okay. Now, I mean, I'm not used to the public as much. >> I know it's different. Yeah. >> It's a little That was a little frustrating when I saw that piece coming because it's hard to get the explanation, but >> Sure. >> I think I guess it is what it is. >> It sort of enlightens. I mean, I'm going to get into an opinion here. Um, I'm
going to flat out acknowledge this as an opinion, but >> you know, we sort of have said before that, um, let's let the market speak via the bidding process. And what we meant by that was let's see what the delta in cost is. Um, I think we learned
something a little more when the market spoke, but it requires interpretation. My interpretation of it is certain roofers are much more comfortable with the liquid applied coating than a traditional re-roofing job. So I I don't
mean that to spin in either direction, but when we see dramatically some people think it's a deduct, some people think it's a significant ad, >> that's the market saying something back to us that at least some of these roofers are not as comfortable with that
option. Again, that's all opinion, but um since we can't quiz them and we can't say, "Hey, why why did you have it this and that way, to me, it just can't be as simple as they're getting the material at a higher cost than their competition." I think I think they're pricing it differently because they see
it as a different job with different liabilities. >> So, and this is just to educate myself. So, say as a a group, we felt really compelled to do the alternate. Could we have the GC's resubmit their numbers to
us with the ad alternate as part of included as the base to see if those numbers are revised? >> The the short answer is no. >> Okay. All right. So, we're we're kind of in this situation that
>> Yeah. We we cannot control who they carry, who they choose to carry. No, not who they carry, but like that we that we say that our base incorporates the alternate one as as part of like the accepted base. And maybe they would I
don't know. Maybe not. Maybe that's >> unfortunately. >> It's a hard line for the procurement law about negotiating after the bid unless you change something bid. >> Yeah. I just think we're Yeah. At a hard spot now. So, it's kind of hard to go with the ad alternate when we're going
to end up really paying more than if we had gone and had it incorporated the first time. >> Yeah, there's a lot of behind the stuff behind the scenes stuff that happens with these bids. I I've learned in being involved in in town government and uh
it's not as pure and honest as you would want it to be. It's it's nothing like the private sector and that's why, you know, state infrastructure is falling apart. It's because of this bid process. >> We're stuck.
>> If I could just interject one thing. So, first observation is that we actually only got three bids for uh the roofing. Uh there were five bids that were submitted, but two of the bids that were submitted, one by Triumph and the other one by Corolla were submitted by
non-qualified firms. Therefore, we could not accept their bids. So, there were only three roofing bids that were submitted. So, forget Triumph and Corolla because they were not pre-qualified. And since this job has an estimated cost in excess of $10 million, we're required by state law to
pre-qualify the sub biders and the general contractors at the time prior to bid. So, you're only looking at three bids. So in this particular instance, as everyone said, the expectation was that the liquid applied coating was going to be, I believe I can fairly say,
materially less expensive than the uh than the recover. And two of the general con or two of the the um uh roofing subcontractors did not view the job that way. and Capeway and uh Greenwood submitted substantially higher prices
for the ad for the alternate whereas Gibson Roofing Roofing was the only of the three that submitted a discount uh and they offered a deduct of $157,000 which is less than 5% of the value of the base bid and I believe at the time
prior in the pre previous discussions the expectation was that the liquid applied coating was going to generate savings of um hundred hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially. The number between 500,000 and a million
dollars was at least thrown around in some informal discussions. The other thing I would say is this is the um there are two ways you can bid uh this kind of work in the public sector. You can go with the construction manager at risk CMR chapter 149A which was
introduced in the construction reform acts of 2004 I think it was or the traditional design bid build chapter 149. So when you're doing this as a chapter 149 design bid build job the general contractors are in a bit of a
bind because they have to pick a single contract subcontractor for every trade. So they can't mix and match with the alternate. Though all of them carried Capeway under the reasonable assumption as a bidding strategy, I would suggest that the base bid with Capeway was the
lowest price that the owner was going to see. We could certainly, if we wish, um, you know, they could have maybe made a calculated risk and said, "Okay, I'm thinking they're going to want to take the alternate, so I'm going to carry Gibson." Because Gibson was the uh the
uh low with the alternate. uh uh none of the biders chose that option. None of the general contractors chose that option. So this is a a somewhat difficult situation and and and and even you know it does present some challenges. Obviously it's more
difficult to do bidding in in the public sector. But but having said that um this is not a particularly good tool for using alternates and alternates in public bidding are somewhat complicated by design. Uh, and generally if you're doing something simple like uh a terraso
flooring or a solar array up on a roof uh and it's more like an ad than an alternate uh this kind of process can work reasonably well. However, when you're basically proposing a completely different uh technology, a completely different approach for one of the two
essential elements of the bids, the other being HVAC, then you can run into these kinds of challenging situations. Thanks, Rob. Um, I guess the the question is, does anybody see the value in adding $2
million to this project to use the liquid applied roof? >> No. >> No. >> Well, I mean, yeah. >> No. the the the move this the move here
would be to do the PVC membrane and then come up with a a you know obsolescence schedule so that at a certain point before it gets to the point where it's leaking and insulation is compromised at that point you do the liquid applied and
we put that to bid whe you know 15 18 years from now before we have problems if this is maintained properly so that we can extend this roof a lot longer longer and at that time it will cost less than a full replacement because we won't be doing all of the additional
work especially if the HVAC equipment is properly maintained and and that won't come into play with the with the liquid applied uh product at that time. >> I I would thank you for saying that Mark I was got to say exactly the same thing. I think in the in the long in the long
haul that's the way to go. Um, I think uh if we get a 20-year warranty on this roof, we start talking about uh liquid apply and you're 15 16 is is probably the best case scenario. So, I appreciate you bringing that up. I think another thing to consider too is
at that time when you guys reach that point you can reach out directly to the liquid applied um manufacturers and start getting support as a town from them to help uh you know start looking reporting on the roof as it exists at
that point start doing some preparatory repairs if needed. So, I have a couple of comments. Uh, one is to thank Ralph for the analysis he gave us midweek by email. That was really helpful. Another is gosh, we got
to be celebrating a bit that the numbers are lower than expected. That's wonderful. It sort of puts us in a position where the choice I think is very obvious. Um, you got to look at the gap between the membrane and liquid applied though and say, you know, we must have
done something wrong because I don't believe the the market cost market price of that product really is a significant premium over the um membrane. But I think it's too late to explore
that or remedy that. I think but it makes sense to at least be aware we might have whiffed somehow. And then the comment about getting back up on that roof in 15 16 years. Gez, I would hope
we get 25 or 30 out of it. Um, you know, in the private sector, our roofs last. Um, and you the roof has to be care for and who knows what's wrong with the roof we bought 20 some odd years ago, but it should not should
not have gone bad 5 years ago. Anyway, those are my thoughts. >> I agree with you there. I just think that the way that this town has a history uh of not maintaining its buildings, um, I don't think we're going to get maximum lifespan out of out of
anything. Maybe 15 16 years is too soon, but it would have to be an ongoing uh you know by you know a couple times a year get up there and really do an assessment even if it's just a high level one of us getting up there and looking at it without consultants or you
know just just a first look to see if this thing looks like it has visible signs of failure or if it doesn't. I I think if I can speak I I think a lot of the leaking we saw with this roof was in the seams area. So when we first start
seeing seams becoming poor, you know, ripping apart or or deteriorating, that's when we really need to move on on doing something, whether it's, you know, reseming it or I don't even know if that's possible or doing a liquid applied. But I think the seams are going to tell us when this thing is about to
fail or when we're getting close to that point. I think what happened is we waited too long this time and the insulation got wet and there were other problems that precipitated us having to to cut into the existing roof without just doing a ceiling a sealant over it. It's my thought. I don't know.
>> Also have like annual maintenance plan, you know, where a professional roofer goes up there every year after you get the new membrane on. >> Yeah. >> Uh just Yeah. just to say like I I know we're talking about but we're talking
post install like I do think that the the key is starting to do QAQC when they are installing and looking at how it's going and like I don't know if that falls under RDA or who's going up there but I think >> our key is making sure that while
installation is going on we are periodically getting up there and doing our checks making sure that everything's being installed according to the specs because I do think the drawings had a lot of good detail about penetrations and the seaming, you know, like making
sure that what we show on the drawings is what is getting installed and so that we don't have issues failing because I think a lot of the issues happen with how it was installed versus maybe the longevity of the product that we're putting on. So, I just want to make sure
that that's a huge priority and a focus during construction. And you know, I don't know these these GCs, but staying on those um observations and getting up there and you know, doing our inspections and and so forth. >> And Karima, just as a partial response
to that, RDA and left field um will be doing ongoing stuff and we would welcome anyone um from this group. Obviously, the school uh Todd would know all about that too. he'd be there, but um we can certainly have uh outside input as well.
But I just wanted to assure you that, you know, that is part of our scope and our DA's scope to monitor the construction progress. >> Yeah, like like I said before we started the meeting, I would like to be involved in that and I don't care if it's twice a week. I'm happy to get up there and make
sure that everything's being done properly. Um because uh that that's what I know how to do. Excellent. Thank you, Mark. >> And could I just add just a couple quick things? Thing number one is one of the
issues I think with our roof, I mean, obviously it was done um prior to um the requirements that owners, public owners have an owner's project manager, in this case, left field. Uh so I suspect uh that the constru installation of that
roof uh when it was done in 1999 uh was probably not supervised with a great deal of care or as much scrutiny as it's going to receive today. The second observation I would make is that that TPO membrane was a relatively new technology in 1999. It's a much more
established product now. And the last point I'd like to make and this is kind of uh following up on what Sam's point. Um, while we can sit here and talk about the wisdom or the the results we got from basically bidding two fundamentally different alternates for the roofing, I
I think we should stop and just basically kind of like uh appreciate the fact that this was a very successful procurement. Um, the HVAC system is by and large the most important part of the project. Uh we got competitive bids from
a number of um uh highly qualified firms that do this type of installation on school projects throughout the uh throughout the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And the uh HVAC subcontractor that we we got and Lefield
can speak to this as well is uh you know it's a they're a local uh contractor and a local subcontractor and they do a lot of work on school projects and they're they're well regarded within the industry. And the other two trades, the electrical and the plumbing trades,
which are much smaller in this particular procurement, uh also went to um uh experienced and qualified firms that do a lot of work in public schools. And by that I mean do a lot of work on MSBA core school construction projects. So by and large, and we got bids from
three sub uh three uh roofing contractors. So, I think we we should maybe just pause and acknowledge that this was a successful bid and I think we're serving the interest of the of the town of Marblehead well and I'm sure that the continued involvement of this subcommittee will will ensure that we
have a a good outcome. I I would observe just anecdotally, you know, RDA was the designer of record for the Brown School and um amongst the architecture firms that I've I've worked with, I spent the first 20 odd years of my my career in um
horizontal construction, which is engineerled. And in my experience, engineering firms do a better job of construction phase services than architecture firms. No offense, but uh RDA had amongst the best uh construction phase services of of of an architect uh
that I've worked with in my 45 years in this business. So, I think we're we're we're we've got a good outcome. We have a good team and I think we're poised for success. >> Thanks, Ralph. I appreciate that. Um, I just wanted to ask one question that I I
think the public might be interested in, but um before we sort of vote on our our decision, but um I was wondering why the why the the bids came in, you know, $2 million under budget. If someone could
provide some insight into, you know, the discrepancy between our estimate and and where we ended up, >> I can take a quick whack at that. is um across the board really in the last number of months
we're seeing an incredibly competitive bidding market. Um and an incredibly competitive bidding market usually creates these scenarios where projects beat their estimates. For a number of years it was the opposite. uh no matter
how conservative estimators and we thought we were being the bids um supply chain issues everything we heard about postco were coming in higher so um I think the market has plateaued and is probably correcting we're seeing
anything that's going out to bid in the last month or two bid very successfully publicly among the filed sub trades so to me it's the market's hungry and um people want to work through what they perceive as instability Ultimately,
if I had a time machine, I would have stood by the estimates that we put out there until we bid it because it's still highly questionable. It's still a volatile bidding time, but um I'm not sure if it fully answers your question, but it's consistent with what we've been seeing on public sector bidding with
medium and largesiz contractors for the last number of months where most projects are coming in under at this moment. might not be the case in six months or 10 months or two years, but right now is an ideal time to be bidding. >> Thanks. I'm glad. >> If I could just add one point to that,
um, most of the variation in the in the in the the bids versus the estimate is in the roofing. >> So, I mean, there's some savings in the electrical scope. Again, the HVAC work, interestingly enough, is for the HVAC subcontractors, this is not all that
dramatically different than installing HVAC equipment on a new school, but the roofing scope is fundamentally different than what a roofing contractor would do in a new new project. And so, one, uh, the roofing estimates harder to generate because of the, uh, the complexities of
doing a recover versus a new install. And secondly, I think also that um uh the team was probably reasonably conservative in providing an estimate for the roofing work, but the the HAC bid is below estimate, but it's relatively close and they're very tight
bids. And I concur with everything that Brian Dacon said. um uh since say 2022 uh the market uh in the public sector that the uh these projects operate in uh the bid climate has improved dramatically and it's moving in the
favor of the um uh owners. When I first started uh following this project, I was deeply concerned that we were going to have difficulty getting bid in interest because it's not a it's not as attractive uh a scope of work. Again, the HVAC is a bit different, but for the
roofing and the electrical and the plumbing, they're not really glamorous um it's not a really glamorous product, but we got good prices for everybody. So, but the the the most of the variance is on the roof, the not the other trades.
>> I would also just the last sort of tidbit is that um the estimators are not trying to estimate the low bid. they're trying to make sure that they're capturing, you know, maybe not the middle of the pack, but it's not uncommon and they want to be higher,
right? Because being lower is really um turns into a huge headache for a municipality or a town. So, um I think that's just something to consider as well that there's a conserviveness applied to Brian and Ralph's points um where they're not trying to represent
what the lowest most competitive bid is going to be. >> Yes. As I used to say, we we the the estimators want to be the third bidder. >> They don't want to hit the low bid number three. >> Right. Yep. >> Excellent. Yeah, I really appreciate that. I think a lot of people who are following this are like me and have no
prior experience. So, um getting that information helps. So, I think what we're doing is accepting the bid from Homer Construction. Is that correct? They're the low bid. I think we'll be recommending to the full committee that they that they award
a contract to Homer. >> Okay. >> I would just sorry to interrupt, but I would tag in the without accepting the alternate just as a formality. >> Right. >> Yep. >> Good. Thank you. Um so the I am going to call for a motion in a second, but the
process would be that we're going to approve it here. I'm going to bring this to the school committee on Thursday evening and and I'll I'll sort of come back to that in a second. And then we're going to try to get select board approval
um hopefully before December 1st. I think Mike, I saw that Dan had offered to call a quick remote meeting just to approve that. So, um Jim, uh hopefully you're available for that. Um, so
anyway, I'm going to make a motion to approve to recommend the bid from Homer Construction without the the alternate to the school committee for approval. >> Second that. >> Okay. Thank you, Mark. Um,
and Jot this down. Um, I'll I'll just go down the list. Um, and um, Mark, >> yes. >> Yes. In favor. Okay. Uh Brian, >> which Brian I'm in favor?
>> Yes. Brian S. Yes. Thank you. Um Sam, >> yes. >> Ralph, >> yes. >> Uh Kareema, >> yes. >> And Mike, >> yes. >> And I'm in favor as well. So the motion
passes seven to zero. And I will uh bring this to the school committee. So moving on to the in you know to the next agenda item. Uh it was suggested in at the school committ the last school committee meeting that having a member
of this committee come to discuss this to the uh to bring this in front of the full school committee on Thursday evening would be good. Something they wanted to see. Um >> what what time is that meeting? It's at 6:00 pm. Probably around 6:30 is when we
would, you know, get around to that part of the meeting. There's there's sort of stuff that happens before then. Uh I can stop by. I don't want to be the primary because I've got a planning board meeting at 7 in a different building, but I'll I can show up and if
it happens early enough, I'll I'll participate. And if not, uh I won't. >> Okay. Uh and also I you I could you know this could be attended remotely. So if you want to join this remotely from the building where your planning board meeting is. >> Okay. >> And that would make it easier. I will
talk to Al about moving this um up on the agenda to be sure that it fits into your schedule. >> Sure. >> Yeah. I mean certainly I'm not trying to keep anybody else from being a part of that. But if uh if anybody wants to do it that's fine. If they want my support
I'll show up. If if not, that's fine, too. Is anybody else interested? >> Uh Henry, I was just going to I was just going to mention um the agenda right now is uh it's pretty quick. There's only two short things before the roof uh discussion. So, yeah, I think the 6:30
time frame is pretty accurate for start time. Just if that's a a factor for anyone else deciding. >> Yeah. and John, if it looks like sort of the district updates and stuff are are taking more time, we can ask Al to move up the agenda item. And so,
um, >> Henry, if you if you need more than one, I can, uh, it looks like my calendar's free. I could potentially be there as well. >> Yeah, I think that would be great. I think it's going to be pretty short presentation, but I think it's it would be helpful to have I mean, to be honest,
it's nice to showcase the work of this committee. um because we certainly couldn't have done it without you. Um so um great. So I I will um I'll send you some more information via email just you
know the time and date and the agenda and stuff and and there'll be a Zoom link in there too if you decide you want to join remotely. Uh great. Okay. Well I'm I guess I'm going to make a motion to adjurnn. Second that. >> I had I had one
>> you got one >> one thought. Um >> the the sooner the selectmen can approve the contract the better because the schedule was predic well the schedule was predicated on getting the HVAC
submitts as soon as possible and getting that equipment ordered. And I think we have enough time to do it given December 1st, but it, you know, a few days now can can help. Um, >> yeah, I think that's good. Well, actually Jim's got his hand raised, so
I'm gonna uh ask you. >> Yeah, I I just wanted to say coordinate with Dan Fox and Kyle. I just Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Um, I just want to say coordinate with Dan Fox and Kyle. It's it's not unusual we call a quick meeting on short order
to approve a contract. So, um as soon as you're ready, just coordinate. We'll we'll deal with that. So, >> all right. We'll do. Thanks, Jim. >> Um okay. Any more any anything else before we adjourn? >> I'd love to have the chance to re ask a
question. It's a teeny question um from a month ago and that is why do we have moving cools in the scope? >> Oh, there's a there's um in the library there's a lot of paper
books, etc., etc. And when we take the existing air conditioning offline, uh the humidity in there is going to going to raise. Um so we wanted to keep the library dehumidified. Um the other and I don't know but um I
assume that there's going to be administrators in the building and so um again a lot of the HVAC equipment is going to be removed and there's going to be a number of weeks during the humid part of the year where there's no cooling or dehumidification in the
building. But we were concerned about the library and I I honestly don't know if we ended up putting any in the um in the admin suite or not. >> We didn't want to get musty. >> Do do they end up being permanent?
>> No. No, they're temporary. >> Oh, >> just just to keep the humidity knocked down during the summer months. >> Got it. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Good. Thanks, Sam. Um, okay. Well, I will I Okay, so we can
Mark, did you second that motion to adjurnn? >> I did. I could do it again. >> I think once is good, but we can we can just take a quick vote. Um, Mark, >> yes. >> Brian, >> yes. >> Sam, >> yes.
>> Ralph, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Mike, >> yes. And I am in favor. A motion is passed. So we are adjourned at 1:44 p.m. Thank you so much everybody. I will be in touch.
>> Thank you. We appreciate everything. >> Thank you. >> Bye everyone. >> Thank you. I