--------- like to call the meeting to order please Lisa will you read the statement of compliance the noticed requirements of the open public meeting act for this meeting have been satisfied a copy of the annual meeting notice was sent to the Press of lantic City Star Ledger posted on the bulletin board in the
municipal building the municipal website and filed in the office of the municipal clerk please turn off all cell phones please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance IED stes Lisa please take the role mayor Collins here commissioner blumberg I am
here commissioner whn here welcome everybody um Ed Dennis and uh Remington Vernick were unable to attend I did speak to him this week uh nothing report as far as our engineering report so we're going to
go right into our department head report um Chief Adams would you like to begin please had the exective commit meeting yesterday and some of the things that were talked about specifically were
the city's responsibility Li cyber liability and basic security and I provided copies of that you than there's not a whole lot going in the department
thank you Chief Lisa okay thank you good afternoon just a couple things to report one of which um I was contacted by Captain Jeff Lee and the police department that they have funds available through a drunk drive and enforcement fund um in the amount
of$ 58,7 so um it could be put I think they have to expend at least 50% of that for drunk driving enforcement 50 split so we could you know we can't just do all say sign boards or or this but we could split
5050 but I think the way we are thinking about is probably targeted weekends holiday Memorial Day Fourth of July Labor Day is probably where the trunk driving enforcement funds will will be working so it's actually really good we're going to start utilizing that so
before they're able to use that we have to uh appropriate it in the budget which will be offset by anticipated Revenue so as you know we're scheduled for um the budget hearing April 3 and if that goes
through as is um then I will be preparing a chapter 159 resolution to subsequently add it to the budget however if there is going to be any Amendment to the current budget I will add it in at that time so I'll wait and
see but either way it's um it's a good finding for the city and it'll greatly help the police department um the only other thing I want to mention to you is we receiv received the final State a payment for from the do
for the Atlantic Avenue bike lane painting like the first phase of it so we were see it was 74,8 the total amount we received for that Grant was 274,000 which um offset just about the entire
cost of that project um and that's all I have to report thank you thank you Lisa Chief thank you mayor Commissioners uh as you can see I gave each a copy of the 202 annual annual report for the police department which is a summary of all the
activities of the police department for the calendar year of 2024 a copy of that will be digitally on the city website tomorrow so in your time if You' like to read it about the the activities of the police department 2024 you will see our calls for service our goals who we are
where we've been and where we're going so it's it's an annual document we like to prepare um and have it out for the public to see as well I would like to Pat for the city lot uh the lot at Benson Avenue has turned out great there's been a lot of concrete work I
saw planning took place this week I got a text message from hat day that it's it's always been open but it's opened in a refurbished State for the summer so it looks really good we'll go in there repaint the lines again 18 spots that are right by Washington Avenue a block
from our our our busy Barn restaurant area it's great all the way around hopefully it'll be utilized a lot more in the summer of 2025 that's our hopes last thing with recent incidents with the the police department in the city a couple of Motor Vehicle thefts
and it we always have them from time to time and I always like to remind people please lock your cars and take your keys out of it it can prevent 98% of the motor vehicle thefts we have in this city and again I always say at nine o'clock if you go have a
checklist make sure your car is locked make sure your house is locked make sure your lights are on and just do it every day because as we find out leaving your keys in a motor vehicle especially in today's day and age is very easy picking for somebody to steal a motor vehicle so again I just always
try to emphasize that that's all I have thank you Chief Roger thank mayor Commission concerns about the Rel concern all right thank you Roger Pat how you doing mayor commissioners um
call volume this week in the public works department it's averaging about 40 calls per day so it's definitely going up since a couple weeks ago water usage is also went up to 500,000 gallons per day so you can tell the sprinklers are starting to come on and down and people are here um we had four wi brakes last
couple weeks been working on the relief commandant for the bay they're almost complete we're just waiting for a little wood for the uh one left we got to do and then we'll start working on them eight LIF guard stands um talk about the Bens parking lot put them bike racks in there we got them delivered today so they should be
in there tomorrow or Monday the latest um and fire hant flushing is going to be March 31st through April 4th 8:30 to 3 all five days and I'll get with Danny and we can do a phone blast that sent out that weekend before and also with
the road program the Chief Inspector for RV called and asked if they can work past uh Memorial Day a few weeks I told him I had to bring it to the mayor and pass uh ention for approval see what you guys want to do with that yeah I mean I think it would
obviously make sense for us to complete any open jobs um as opposed to leaving them unfinished for months there do we have there's no ordinance in place that prevents the road project from continuing past Memorial Day
correct okay yeah so I said I think we should work with them find out how long of an extension they need and try to accommodate them at seems like it's going to be like two to three weeks just to button up the streets at least get a base pav down to where it's not going to be a mess for the summer okay yeah I
think I'm in favor of that as long as it doesn't uh enter into the July 4th uh weekend all right perfect I'll mik now thank you that's all I got thank you Scott got a number of things here and uh
the first I want to out the lawyer and the owner of argar Avenue the beach ventor side uh as I understand it was a part of this planning board approval uh wants to pay for a new Street end of argal Avenue in fact is it would include
a handicapped access area include stairs include the bulkhead plus he's going to bulkhead his house which kind of looks like he doesn't have a but uh it would be at his cost it would be under our Superion his lawyer contacted me and said could
you kind of move that along so I figured well here's our workshop I'll do what we have to do to move it along now uh I didn't get into the details of who would design the bulk Ed but I assume he would do it or us they design so Roger knows
more about this too do you want to Enlighten this everybody sure just also clarify that was not a condition ofal right they want to elevate their requ is El they want to BU City
streeta they would haveu so the ordinance that says 13 ft is that is the minimum height so it we can prove it to be 15 if we choose at that location 15 probably 13 yeah I went out there today
uh I was on the phone with with Scott to take a look at it I mean I think 13 you know is still fairly low in that area 15 would would bring it up is there any situation where we could allow the homeowner to build 15 in front of his
property but still be 13 at the street end uh not the issue it's okay yeah because as Scott said the current situation looks like their deck might be on top of the bulkhead or I mean you didn't could even
really see a buhe in front of their house okay so is this something uh we approve by resolution yes record okay can you share the plans the house plans with us so we can take a look at at what those elevations are and
then we can knock that out next meeting I'm not really sure who does the design of it or do we want to mandate that the street end be at 13 which should be about up to here in MZ or if it's another if it's 15 if it's 15 it would
be over my head when I'm 61 so again that's you know it's you guys have to make that decision how high you want your street as far as a homeowner though I think he has that option to guess it's his deck is what you're
saying is did he get a variance for his deck or oh so he got it already Okay so we're and he and the lawyer said they wouldn't do it till way after Labor Day so we have time to figure this out come up with the wording um I don't know if we want to have post a bond Roger and I
work at okay yeah if you could just share copy the the approv plan so we can review that would be good one okay so uh next um part of our discussion as you know now the St Lucy committee wants to tear down the old gift shop building as a
part of their game plan to put in a new structure and whatnot have made up a draft it is contingent upon having Green Acres approval which I understand they have haven't seen it and also uh having approval from the
historic ever it is that a Tren that funds part so uh with your permission I'll put that resolution on for the next meeting I understand they want to tear the structure down prior to the summer they want to do it in April and uh I'm
not sure what they're doing about a new gift shop but I do know they picked up the the former bank unit across the street and I think they're going to use that as a gift sh yes they had a ribbon cutting over there that's what they're doing right yeah they had a ribbon cutting over there a couple weeks ago
and I wasn't wor and they they moved the gift shop to temporarily across the street when this when the structure comes down so I had sent apparently somebody thought at Green Acres level there's different people I sent all copies of the exeed lease that we had
approved last year and the one that was in effect prior 201924 so we're in good shape I don't think we have to do anything else exp they're tearing it down so it's not City tearing it down
it's the tenant who controls that all right number three on here I have a resolution to authorize the lease for what I'll call the greenhouse uh bar on the beach this is something that the state has required us to do in the past
we gave them a license if you'll recall and Governor Murphy the state legislature to change the law we've allowed that beach bar to be an amenity for uh visitors and residents of Margate so that's on for tonight's agenda so
that you it'll be $25,000 a year we came up with this figure based on what we understand beach bars to be paying l City equivalent pretty pretty much the same goes up 3% a year they will pay that 25 as soon as they get a copy of
the sign lease resolution so if you pass that resolution tonight this will now we will now be charging the greenhouse for the are they just real quick Scott Lisa if you remember the the D is requiring that those funds be used for recreation I
know you were thinking about a way to whether it's a trust or I don't believe you forwarded me the information from them I was actually looking for it earlier so can you send me what the D sent so I make sure I set it up and we Scott can you send that over to Lisa
send you what uh I recall the D ago the D's requirement that the all funding be used for recreational activ I don't know if that's a recreation I don't know if that's a regulation or what that is but I'll work on it so document yeah they're supposed to be used for recreation yeah
okay that I know uh a couple other things couple good things the county Improvement Authority has been in contact with me I think I've sent you out a draft agreement we had done an agreement several years ago when they funded
several houses to be raised required flood elevations as I understand it they now have funding to do another is it 21 houses Pat they're going to do 21 houses they will run the show the the agreement that we enter into with the property owner
something I made up with them a couple years ago they are willing to use that format again so I don't know not tonight to approve the they Jim Mell is working on this to he asked me if we would approve that format Roger I want you to take a look at it one more time maybe
you it was good enough two years ago Pat we had a after Sandy there were Grant Monies to raise houses and now it's going to be available again Improvement authorities going to run not not they're Distributing the money so I'm proba
excited about that uh as you know we settled on ta tailor we now have that Pat's people and Pat been great to work with and we're moving forward on us I think our next step through Eddie's office will do the utility markouts we're going to have to get getting
quotes for demolition of the building and if you understand our agreement with Exxon now they're giving us $70,000 to cover demolition costs what they intend to do now is there's just two tanks remaining that were closed in 1979 those tanks will be removed they're
partially under the building then we're we're moving forward and we're going to make an application I assume we have to get County approval it is on a County Road and I've seen the preliminary designs so at some point in time we've got to make a final decision on that design and then submit it into the
county but you know we're moving forward and there it is city owns it works theyve got a key to the building but he's still moving some of his equipment out there but gas St we don't have gas St
anywhere Scott I have a question related to that um the butt still being in there with his tools and are we covered from a liability we certainly are we have insurance get very thorough insurance certificate we have a use and occupancy
agreement with Bud Taylor we gave him till the end of this month to help him shut down his business we also have thank yeah everything was sent to Dave Miller good yeah Dave was great to work with as always make sure we're
covered um I know I I'm not a question about this next one the license for Sunrise tequila I prepared that that's where their handicap ramp on the side of the building recall that the project was they utilize an existing building at existing setbacks they raised portions
of the building there's a second floor addition they had to have an handicap ramp so without tearing down exterior wall buildings we draft it up and have an exterior handicap ramp licensed to go in the right way of Monro
we have already done this a number of times Margate Towers Hot Bagels I believe ver Bakery has a hand that's a county they saltwater has one on the side
there's been others one on front Neck Avenue typically what happen Through The Years stairways or maybe they had planers or like the mar Towers they have like a patio goes into What's called the right away of the street actually outside their deed line but if the
street were vacated they would own in the center of the street so it is a license there's an insurance requirement it's necessary it was I I don't know if it was shown on their original approved plans but under the handicapped access
law they have to have so it's mandatory so could you vote no on it I I guess Scott is that ramp already built it's built so it's already built build it yes they built the ramp some said wait a minute you need a license here
for this ramp so yes they did put it in already but as you probably aware uh their sidewalk failed it didn't have the proper slope and if you go by there you'll see they've ripped out the side I don't think they ripped up the stairs but all
the concrete is going have to replace it the slope can't exceed 2% I think it was closer to 4% they got failed by the count on our side so contractor he screwed up in
number mistake but I would urge you to approve it because I think by law they have they have to have a handicap man for Access okay what else do I have the raising house tailor Osborne Avenue as you know we've made a deal we've got it
off the rosy list I'm waiting for uh the beach front owner um surveyor to give me a plan so I can minor subdivision so we can convey the lot and again that one the owner is going to build his bulkhead plus the street end bulkhead plus a
handicap access plus a Stairway it's 165 ft of Bulkhead so you're talking a very substantial amount of money for improvement and another $226,000 to the city add that
1756 ft I know I talk a lot here don't I get more time I got one more I got one more I got to have fun with this I do this because I enjoy doing this Mory this will concern
you it concerns all this but you're going to love I always wondered who was the first settler in Margate and it was a guy named John Bryant and John Bryant had worked for Jeremiah Le we know Jeremiah City and he ran theem
until he moved down to what becomes morgate to make the salt work this is great stuff I'm telling you I love this I always assumed his salt works when was on the south end of the town because that's where the little village
originally called South started that's where he he was where your he was area in fact it's an article that was written about 20 years ago in the
and he leased an what is it when it's the rectangle is on an angle like this what is that called parallel you guys are parallel he represented rented an area for 50 years that was
about four or five blocks wide and it is there that he established his salt and I assume it has to be closed because I can remember a few years ago there was a giant in that high area that unfortunately got
cut down I sa chunks of it which I gave out this map attached to the AR shows it's right it's right where you're place that High Ground I find it very exciting I'm sorry but that's where the first seller first guy who lived and I will
send you copies of these they say that that area is one of the highest in maret my street you're you're half you're at the crest of right my kid Liv across the street I mean it's it's a remarkable thing it's so much higher so if there's a hurricane next time we know where to
park we're going to park come stay so but anyhow I'll send that Artic out to you I think you're going to enjoy reading anybody wants it maybe we'll put it on our website or something because it's it's great history of Mor that's it
I'll shut up all right thank you Scott Pat you're up so I've involved cont negations discussion about that and I don't me to keep my back I've told
discuss I can start at one time they were banned uh we didn't allow them uh and subsequently somehow they got back into the ordinance and uh my my thinking is and
from people that I talk to around town is that they're uh they're noisy they're loud they're obtrusive and uh the guys take advantage of using them they blow their stuff in the street they blow it down the storm drains uh I think we should put it back
in the ordinance and uh you know prevent the use of them these the landscapers can use handheld blowers they're not as powerful they're not as noisy and they're equally as efficient and you know they they encourage the
landscapers to sweep up I think because they're easier to control so I you know my my feeling is that we should put them back into the noise uh I guess my question and I had
mentioned this to to Pat before is and I don't know if anyone could provide some feedback as to what the neighboring towns do because I I would imagine that the landscapers that work in our town are working in the adjacent towns um you know so I think we should be consistent
with the neighboring towns and also U Pat power maybe you can lend some insight I believe that we use them ourselves for our own for Public Works correct yeah we got probably about five or six of them would that impair impair your work
efforts if they were taken away slow it down a little bit and don't you use those mostly at the W complex and you're not using them out on the street we but my only my only concern is what are
we going to do about the enforcement perspective of it I think we've already talked about you know with with new ordinances coming up it's going to be hard to police all we all know there's a lot of landscapers in town especially the summer season comes up the enforcement part might be a little bit
hard with only I believe one part-time code enforcement officer at this time so again I I I we end the ordinance before I believe it was I remember when was proposed commissioner and I just think it was tabled for some reason I don't know if we ever actually adopted it but
I know we had it written up 20 15 20 years ago and then it was tabled for some reason and I don't know if these same concerns came up or not but I just want to make sure the enforcement part so we wouldn't just put it on the books and not really it is my concern without
a doubt I I appreciate that and I agree with that and the idea is um that if we we don't do it we're status quo and and uh I don't think we're doing the right thing by the residents that have to listen to the you know the noisy glowers
I don't think we're doing the right thing for the environment and we are in fact in discussions with the business administrator and Roger to move our as we discussed last week to move our part-time enforcement official to
full-time and also look for an additional part-time help there so in that regard if we're able to do that when we do that confident we'll be able to do that we'll we'll be able to cover this yeah because we had that when we had a part-time Steve Steve Schwarz
before he pass as a part-timer he would do those city ordinances he would drive around and do longone grass he would do those kind of quality of life issues and then after he passed we just haven't had someone inserted to to kind of do those but he did a monthly report what were
his hours he worked Monday through Friday I think it was 9 to3 10 to 4 depending on especially in the summer season because there was more you know dumpsters and he would do like some what we all see with the seagull with the trash cans he would do overflowing trash
can Steve was very diligent in what he did and he would send out letters to homeowners first before we started finding them for overgrown grass so he was actually very good at his job for those things and it kind of took a little bit of the burden off of Code Enforcement to do other things he also
did Saturdays and Sundays he would drive around Sunday mornings to make sure that to time yes depending on the what we were getting he was flexible he was very exactly he was very flexible it gas
just com we're Trend Setters down here in Margate just com about we are he already do a lot of fle hour Pat why wouldn't we do two part-time individuals so we Roger it looked like you had
something to add at some point back toing the hours landscapers and contractors that was in there put back in there to landscap also lies for these contractors first we
have to track down I how do we trap them down what's the what you're thinking there A lot of times they an unmarked truck so it would be a matter of Code Enforcement going around and trying to
find out who these guys are that are working in town right okay we let's talk P let's talk about that offline all right with Roger Pat did you have any other things discuss
yeah I mean I think if we're putting this out for a threeyear bid I think we should do it all in conjunction because I think the if somebody's going to be vending ice cream on the beach they should be aware that there's also going to be coffee bending so I think it makes sense to do it do it together I did
speak with venter's mayor as they have a ice coffee cart on their beaches uh I believe it went in last summer was their first summer they had a lot of success uh I think it would be great and you know I'd like to see them separated just because I think it
offers people that are have a specialty in that area and I've I've been approached by three different people just about this iced coffee so I think we will get multiple bids that are interested in that um and you know keep the cough keep the ice cream the way
it's been been done I yeah I I don't see any reason why that would be an issue commissioner I'm I'm good with that you know is there anything that so this would be a a separate license for a
for another vendor or or the same but we're not opening ourselves up to multiple vendors on the beach we can restrict yes I would do I mean if we have the option to renew why not do do it the same way and then um if it doesn't work
out we can choose not to re and I don't know I don't know if you're don't you have to have an RFP you know put together language in the RFP for certain things that we want to make right I believe the resolution on the agenda is basically allowing you to put
the RFP out correct so for the ice cream so I think if you why don't we amend this tonight and then change so would it just make sense to just have that resolution on the next meeting agenda we can do it tonight
don't yeah because right so I think the key here is that as long as we know we're moving forward with that when we do the RFP for ice cream if that's almost ready that we indicate that there is a separate license I would have to let that exactly so I think as long as we do
that we know that we can pass the resolution for we can put the resolution up for approval for the next meeting all right the last I so I would like to hold off on that uh for you know possibly till the next
meeting I did present this to the citizens advisory committee um I know we have Mr rman here in attendance the uh my understanding it has generated a lot of discussion and a lot of Outreach to the community about how they feel about
the fines and construction hours and uh the committee is going to report back to the commission I believe with the next week so we can just push that back a little bit I think that would be beneficial that's all right thank you Pat so I'm just going to report from the
recreation department as uh Andrew was unable to attend so our Recreation and travel basketball season just ended in all we had over 200 children participate on 22 wck teams and 10 travel teams our sixth grade girls finished as the runner
up in the EPC tournament and our fourth grade boys boys won their tournament um proud to say I was one of the coaches for that fourth grade team we were real close game last night uh it ended around 9:30 at night after a battle against Woodbine but U great
group of kids and and well deserved for those for that group our summer camp is sold out for 1st through sixth grade and we have limited availability for ages four to six we do have availability in all of our weekly sports and educational camps
and then just a brief update on the Pavilion on Monday over 90 of our seniors will be going to Josie Kelly's in summers point to play cards and have lunch in April we will be doing the same thing at Gilchrist beach tags will go on sale seven days a week beginning Friday March
28th badges can be purchased online or at the bloom Pavilion between 9:00 a.m. and 300 p.m. and that is all from Recreation Lisa do you have anything the rabies clinic has been changed to May 3d to accommodate the
veterinarian who is not able to make it on May 11th and the clinic goes from 10 10 AM to 12 noon great thank you very much all right we will now open up to public comment if anyone has any comment
on any items discussed in this meeting please step forward to the microphone hello everyone Steve Bago and I will state my address 9710 land no I'm sorry 9600 Atlant C Margate New Jersey um a few things um in
reference to the landscape blowers should this guidelines be based off of backpack and handheld or actually CC of motor siiz and the reason why I asked this question is myself have both
on our site Backpack Blower and henal that are the same CCS that produce the same amount of noise and sound the only difference is one's easier to hand than other what is your opinion on that I mean I think that makes who's in
charge of that well I mean I think it's a discussion we're having trying to to decide so I think that's very good good inut and I I understand hours of operation because what's going to happen is if you restrict these landscapers on what they're able to use their time on
site is going to cost more to the consumer as an end result and then they're going to be here complaining to this about how now their Landscaping went up x amount of dollars because you're making them use a handheld or broom and dust pans over a backpack that produces the same debes of sound and
noise and order if you follow I'm saying maybe something you want to think about um in relationship to uh let's see the buhe head on this speach isn't it more common to instruct a
homeowner that if they want to rebuild or or want to handle the bulkhead at the end of a city street to the beach that the city will cly handle that and then back charge that homeowner not give it not give the homeo
the authority to build this bulkhead to whatever height they want it to be and things that so they're required to submit and Roger can because I know we've done this before Roger can probably add to this but they're required to submit their own engineered plans they're reviewed by our engineer and then uh approval is
given at that point does that sound correct that's correct so the homeowner would have the approval to build a city bulkhead at the End of the Street the homeowner yes correct and would that homeowner be required to perform place a bond on that
related work I would recommend it because here's the way it works we've done this a number of times you the home owner here he wants to make a donation to the city he wants to do it in conjunction with with building the new bulkhead in is property but it would be prudent by for
us once we get the engineers cost estimate probably have a bond put up because in that period of time when they take out the street end bu but before they replace it they say something goes wrong you know so it would be good to have the city covered but I mean if here
somebody wants to donate a free bulkhead handicapped access and stairway any reason for the city not to take that we understand that we have we have a lot of wealthy people that live along this beach line we get more B catch and would be more than happy including myself
would be more than happy to pay for the bulkhead if I can build the bulkhead that I would like to have of course well our ordinance allows it to benefits my property absolutely yeah the minimum is 13 on the ocean side and the homeowner wants 15 which as they say it's the
minimum it's allowed 15 and how does that imp Margate in relationship to any other government agency who handles the beach such as Army Corp of Engineers replacing the bulkhead in the exact location where it
is he's allowed to do that by right Roger he doesn't is that is that what they refer to as a by get a they do that very Qui loation all right that's all on that wants to do same
location in relationship to stre repairs that are not going to be completed by Memorial Day weekend what streets are we referring to right okay yeah right now they're on thlo Avenue 300 block and Fremont Avenue
between fburg and so most likely it's going to be them streets so we have two streets two well yeah two blocks and three blocks all together in in their contract with the city and I haven't reviewed it and and you could tell me review it yourself you
want is there a time schedule delineated is there penalties delineated if they don't meet the time schedule things of that nature obviously don't get involved with that part or Eddie Dennis is the one that would get involved with that he's not here tonight excuse me there usually is
usually is but we don't but today you can't tell me if there is or is not correct that is correct tell you that right did anyone consider require them to work additional overtime hours during the weekday instead of stopping at 5 they run till
8:00 in order to meet the schedule to be done by Memorial Day that in inures more cost on their end which is their responsibility I should hope that we had guidelines written in the contract that say you need to be done by Memorial Day well there's exceptions we make for
everyone it would violate the ordinance from working but I think we could wave that it's not a bad idea or perhaps we could wave the requirement and let them work p Memorial well I know I have numerous friends that live on thorow and it's been ripped apart for quite some time
and prior to it being ripped apart it was impossible to even drive on that street I know that they came to you m or yourself requesting your assistance to get this project completed I don't think this should be delayed or made easier for a vendor who's making x m of dollars
on this project to give them more time they should have been done by Memorial Bank and if this Administration did not put guidelines and penalties into their contract then it's our fault it's it's not the vendor's fault and that's what I'm trying to find
out yeah and again this is a topic that obviously it's the first time we've discussed it in Workshop tonight so uh we have some questions to ask and and ask the vendor and ask our engineer so we're gonna have the answers maybe the
next Workshop so we can I'll make sure I me one second relationship to the coffee vendors on the beach um so it's going to be limited to Veterans who are going to be able to so
we we put out a bid currently for ice cream vending on the beach it's open to to anyone our veterans have the ability to um I do they have to provide a license to the city or
right right so they you know you'll see them with no license correct how about liability insurance they do get a meranti license is that like yes how about liability insurance because coffee is a hot product or I guess they're going to sell
cold but maybe they'll have hot what about liability coverage for the city the veterans do have to provide to us liability insurance each year and the current individuals that distribute coffee in the city of Margate
would they be given the opportunity to be the first vendors to be able to sell on the beach meaning Starbucks Bagel Hot Bagels or any other vendor that distributes coffee who has a mertile currently in Margate so it's required to be an open bid process open
bid so they wouldn't have precedents over anyone else I don't believe that's legal I'm I'm asking I don't know that's why I'm asking what what were we referring to um getting approvals for this on the fly like in other words voting on this tonight on the agenda is a resolution to
allow Roger to put let finish because we got a we have a lot of residents who have complained about doing things on the Fly here in Margate and relationship as one example the increase in wood andur cost right we we propose or the
board proposes something and then it goes to the next meeting and exchange but nobody gives the public the opportunity to give their input in relationship to what's going on so why are we pushing to do things on the Fly is it important to have coffee like next
week or like what is the urgency of that issue so I think um for two lies at I apologize sounds to well I think I think there let go ahead I
wasn't I'm pushing something is a process an open process that would allow vendor have moreare Memorial Day it wasn't anything try to be and relation
your comment allow coms questions so techically it was done almost tce so we did allow andse took control over
and so what I'm referring to a question is the ER that you're mentioning an honest ER there was a gentleman that stood here at one meeting in the past and said hey wait a minute it said one bullet and then you go to get it approved and now there's two bullets so that was an honest mistake correct in relationship to the sunrise
tequila ramp being a builder and developer I know there's certain processes you run through you do your forms and then you call for an inspection of your forms before you pour your concrete and that inspection is either approved or failed
before they poured that ramp that exists on the street in the public right away was there an inspection by code enforcement prior to approve them to Port the concrete for the related rant I mean we have we don't have anyone here from the construction Department to
verify that that wouldn't be Roger that would be construction correct and why is that why do we not have a public person here from the building department commissioner uh yes p is on vacation she's usually here she's on
vacation today and tomorrow so she's the only person that can handle for for building department I know Public's Works had to someone fill in last meeting right Dominic filled in last meeting because you were you're busy there's not people that can fill in in these departments so people can get
answers these again I can't I'm not going to speak for commissioner blumberg here but one of the things you know I've been working with our business administrator on our requirements for attendance at meeting so we are working on that there is nothing in our employment agreements contracts or our
handbook that requires attendance at at the meeting so the other thing I'd like to point out too and I apologize for Interruption um these are actually public comment not public answer and although we are open government we try
to assist every sing I appreciate sometimes we don't have don't answers us and we may to go back and resarch employes their job sometimes may not have that absolutely
public comment and then if we need to get back totally agree totally agree my next question in relationship to that ramp is why were they not instructed to build that into the structure and not on the public right away so Steve I I mean I guess to just
follow up with Pat's just comment he made I think if you have questions related to this I know it's interesting I watch Time After Time ask questions here that are not relevant to anything really and they're answered but I ask a question and I'm told that you know it's it's not this is not how this is
supposed to be working anybody else questions instruction instru we will Steve that was if you would have let me finish that was what I was going to say sorry that we don't have somebody here to answer those questions we'd be happy to accommodate
all right thank you thank you for your time thank you Cori 772 772 am Hurst Avenue um first of all um going back to the ordinance that was doubled in eror I talked to Pat did
anybody notifi they they were going to do to give people more time to pay since it was pushed through and not voted on a second time remember we had that discussion right
I'm not we were just testing that since people were not given enough time to adjust to the increase in it we were discussing about giving them more time than the date to pay it rather than June give them the ability to pay it maybe a
month or two months later yes fol are in thex instr isues that go out to the people because I didn't see anything came over nothing on the website I don't believe okay so that will be done yes
that excellent okay the other thing is is that this permitting drinking on the beach is there an ordinance that say you can't drink on the beach there is okay I believe correct Chief okay so we're going to permit the green no Greenhouse
I'm talking about now the $25,000 a year to have drinking on the beach is that permitted so uh and again Scott you could probably answer this but no that's a separate area that we've separately licensed to allow them to conduct their buits is it the beach yes
okay and in fact it followed the state law prior to that the governor's executive orders to allow such a thing it's over that thing is over now no the law was passed it's a state law yeah but that's you're talking about our beaches which will have access by children to go
onto the beach from there correct and they will remain accessible to children children so you're gonna have the you GNA say something it's fenced in have you seen it I've seen it okay it doesn't matter it's still a bouncer on the still drinking on the beach which
means you're going to say it's permitted in that area to drink if somebody has an open can on Delan entrance or whatever they can get a a summon or a ticket that is correct you're right that makes no sense then you don't think it makes any
sense no it doesn't because if you have an ordin that says you can't drink on the beach you're going to say now that you could drink in certain areas on the beach correct that makes no then why have an ordinance to say you can't drink on the beach I guess people look at ordinances laws different ways but in my
opinion we follow the state law which allowed it access directly we even allowed it on sidewalks and streets so that's the law that's another thing about well we wanted to save our bars and restaurants and that's what happened we did and caused more troubles last
summer really think there was that much trouble memories there was no trouble we're talking about the green I'm talking there's been trouble there's been people who've been here I don't know about memories I thought we were talking about okay I'm just talking about we'll talk about Greenhouse there's been people here who have come
to the meetings in the past saying about the noise and everything that's there after hours okay so so are we going to enforce the drinking on the beach since you're saying we can drink in certain spots correct I'm not asking you I'm
asking a commissioner I'm the head legal of the city and your opinions sometimes were not solid I always thought they were 100% yeah well they're not 100% if you want to ask anything ask the people on am Avenue with Mattis okay the ones with with matys okay it seemed like they
did pretty well to me they did you better talk to the people got 20% from M Pinson do you want to address yes the drinking on the beach yes we do we have an ordinance for drinking on the beach it's no open containers said when we do when we can do our ATV Patrols in the
beach anybody with an open container open beer can in PL sight we can't go legally we can't go into people's goers we can't grab their cups and see what's in their cups we do when we do have complaints on the beach we go down we force the drink on the beach we done
many years so again it's one of those ones where we can't violate people's right by going their pool and pulling down what's in their pool so it's a little bit of a gray area but again do okay well the previous Captain who retired said he's never given a ticket
against that ordinance I can tell you we have because we have had in over the years with especially there was a time when would teams would come down for spring break how long ago last five years and we we would go down
issu multiple under the finds that you said that you were in discussion with the citizens Advisory Board I have never been contacted or anything about and this is the first time I hear about the clients being
increased so how was that information getting out to the people so it was a workshop discussion at our last meeting right I heard that and uh I'm sure after the meeting you can speak to the person right behind you who's on our committee and he'd be happy to to get you included in their conversation you said that
information was distributed to the people I hav't heard it I've asked the the citizens advisory committee for their community outreach how was it dist how was it distributed to the ciens Dennis you can ask Steve after the meeting we have to proceed all right
that's it thank you thank youed 9600 L Kevin I just like to add that I think the approval for the ventures to continue on their location that they established over the last few years is warranted in fact I think it's better to
keep that this city is taking a position of let's control where individuals are drinking and making sure the right entities are handling properly the police department canvases this speech constantly day and night all the time ATVs
walking I don't think it's an people drink on the beach thank you Steve North Lancaster Avenue um in relation to the gas power the backpack Lea blowers at the last green team meeting this was discussed at length and
I'd like to inform that yes there is a state law that is in litigation there and um the city Maplewood has uh has has put a back has put a leaf blower
law into effect includes all leaf blowers uh what Mr B E said about the CC's and backpack makes sense and we can address that but I would like to forward you some information on what Maplewood
has done because there is a procedure that they have done and it makes sense I mean it took a long time to do it and they escalated it uh because you don't want to harm the uh landscapers once they bought off this equipment but it is a quality of life issue and I mean you
know you've got about 40 houses around any given house and these machines are so loud that it's um they they operate at such an earpiercing level that um it's disruptive if you're having a zoom meeting if you're having dinner lunch
sitting outside having a cup of coffee it's it's very annoying so um it is something that we I think we should address and uh move forward with this um is it's not only just a noise issue but is it is a health issue with the amount
of CC uh with the amount of wind like it blows about 250 miles an hour some of these Le blowers and it's way unnecessary for what we have here in Market you don't need that much power and because it's so much power it is
just blowing way more than what you need to do to contain your your leaf and your leaves in the grass so um I will forward that information to you and thank you Steve Sher lilan Feld I'm a full-time
resident of Margate since 2002 and respectfully I just do not like to give my address on public rec a lot of commissioner meetings and I can say like if I'm in Atlantic City I could say I'm a resident of Margate anyway my
questions are regarding ventur um the permits it's more for clarification so my understanding is that area is protected um under the grain Acres right is it it's
protected the ventur land could yes with Green Acres that was my question okay so then they have the C so I understand that Margate owns the land it's protected under Green Acres and um so they were they able to
get their caer permits yes okay that's all I needed to know because I didn't understand because last was very interesting what little back we went with the governor's order and Co did concern was that we would lose restaurants and bars as many towns did
we didn't let them Beach that's adjacent not only to their facility but to that big public essentially aour build uh we had you said a public restroom well they had the bathroom here that everybody at that beach uses okay
you used maybe but anyhow um then it was cified but it was made state law the governor's executive orders and the green the D which had at first resisted
this agreed that that was the law and then they processed their application Roger jumped in if I'm saying anything wrong they got their d perit d wanted to see a lease for this area which they approved the odd procedure they approved
the form then they wanted to see the leas sign and then they will look at it again but I understand that they' approved it and that leas spells out they have have insurance they have to block it off there's all kinds of conditions but it is right right I just did know that halfa
had approved yes that's why I'm asking so thank you okay that was it great thank you Sher there a motion to close public comment motion oh we got one more stepen Alman 9003 murst Avenue
Margate some of the things I'm going to refer to are from discussions of The Advisory Board a couple of them are just my observations if I may one of the things uh uh you were discussing whether
this was Q&A were just comments and uh there's been a lot of uh feedback in the community that the fact that people get up here and do Q&A uh eliminates a lot of
discussion of people just coming up and commenting each after each after each uh so that my observation is that in the long run having a Q&A uh is better for a
Civic Outreach my point was only that sometimes we don't have the answer I know and we I believe may I understand U as far as leaf
blowers they're in a category of machine like uh gasoline lawnmowers and uh what are the wave Runners that are the most polluting uh engines
anywhere uh they they put out more pollution than dozen carbs uh I'm not talking about the noise or the hours or anything like that just as an environmental thing uh they're very
destructive to our environment and probably ought to be considered in those terms also um back to breakes I magic um Le's
uh budget last week uh meeting was outstanding I I've been coming to meetings for 17 18 years and um I've never seen such a comprehensive uh budget that was
outstanding and it did raise um an issue um finds that are are collected for uh code enforcement for example do they go the question is do they go into a
general fund or can they be utilized uh for the hiring of other uh code enforcement people they go into the general fund there are certain situations where you can establish a trust fund to be used
for an individual purpose I'm not sure if that would be one of the approved um purposes by the state would look into it but it just it basically all comes out in the wash at the end um so I would
have to verify if it could be used solely for a trust fund or not but or if it would be worth it it might be of interest in terms of additional code enforcement people um finds that you were talking
about escalating fines in for building uh I believe the Advisory Board came up to the conclusion that they were going to recommend and I'm not doing this officially just off my memory but we were going to uh recommend the same
fines as Longport uh which I think was like 250 huh up to a, 250 500 and then a th000 I think I'm correct on that am I you
know okay uh I think that's going to be the recommendation uh I can't even read my own writing oh there the again with the water going up some of the feedback from
the community is okay we've increased the the the uh amount for the basic how is that money how do you come to that uh
figure how is it being utilized how are those funds being utilized for uh the Water Department for example uh and why the increase I think it's a just an an accounting thing that people are
interested in it went up why how are those funds being utilized yeah so again the long and short of that is that expenses exceed it Revenue so it had to go up uh Pat maybe you could give just a 30 second what the water department does and what goes into you know how many
employees things like that that that is what helps provide the drinking water mostly all mostly all everything that goes up is especially with the Le service line replacement that they're mandating is that's that's going to be a big expense you're TR talking I'm not
really sure but estimate probably 20 to4 million over the next seven eight years right there's a lot but every year we got to re redevelop Wells they usually about 160,000 a piece we got the meter replacement program going on I think this year it's going to be close to
probably a million dollars for this year at it also just the paint the water tower that's coming up probably in the next couple years it's going to be over a million dollars so there's a lot of expenses thank you I I'm just going to make my own recommendation that in that
kind of an explanation uh it might be useful to have it somewhere so that citizens can read it and and there you go um and I wanted to personally ask the chief uh you
commented about keys in the car yes I have a new car I got a key fob uh it's always in my pocket so uh it opens the car door starts the car and all that are they easily stolen and if so what about
it Steve my advice just don't eat the key in the car keep it in the house if you keep it in the house you'll be fine over we're finding a lot of key are left in the car it's easier for people in fact we find
98% of our stolen motor vehicles have theob in the to make it EAS now somebody got into your car because it was unlocked uh but the key fob wasn't in the car could they still go under the
dashboard and hot wire I'm sure it could happen and I'm sure there are and even in's RF antennas that they could pirate the signal from your from your your your portable but for the most part I would
suggest put it on the kitchen table inside the house and lock the car remember to lock the house yes and remember to lock the house but that's why I always say just if the key in the car if the key is with you in the house you're going to be pretty good I thank
you all for your Indulgence thank you step is there a motion to close public comment motion I will second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes is there a motion to adjourn motion second mayor Collins
yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner yes all right I'd like to just roll right into the next meeting Part: 2
like to call the meeting to order please Lisa will you read the statement of compliance the notice requirements of the open public meetings act for this meeting have been satisfied a copy of the annual meeting notice was sent to the Atlantic City Press St Ledger post on the bulletin board in the municipal
building the municipal website and filed in the office of the Municipal Park please turn off all electronic devices please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance Lisa please take the role mayor Collins here commissioner blumberg I am here commissioner horn
here is there a motion for the approval of the March 6 2025 Workshop meeting and regular meeting minutes motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right we will now open up to public comment if
anyone has any comment please step forward Steve AG 9600 atlan Avenue on my project at 9710 bner Avenue one of the requirements were that we install street lights Street stands lights that were
installed in 2023 and the pired mayor I've inquired with Pat business administrator on how do I get these lights activated we're a year plus and these lights sit dormant
and they were quite costly and we'd like to see them running what it who is responsible to coordinate and get this done and what is the time schedule to get it done I still don't have an answer from new mayor or Pat so I did speak with
Roger and he was going to get my my problem is I'm in litigation with Roger so I don't like that answer to tell you the truth because there's someone else that can handle that I have no idea I I was directed to install them they don't tie into my
electric they tie into City's electric well there's a new there that you would run up and go across the street to go into the box it's there but everyone's talked about this but no one's getting it done I appreciate it thank thank
you John pits 413 North Huntington Avenue uh in Margate U couple ordinances tonight the construction cleanup uh ordinance uh I'm in full support of that apart from the microplastics that we've been talking about certainly uh keeping
the work sites clean and and organized would be would be useful uh the other ordinance the evse ordinance uh also in full support of that I'm an EV owner uh I think you encouraging any electric vable use
Margate is well done uh folks that come to Margate with an EV if they have a place to charge it time they're here to shop or to eat or go to the beach the EV would be fully charged might be able to make it home we further encourage
EV uh EVS are great we love ours uh the only thing that I think is limiting increased use of EVS is the lack of charging so full support great job thank you thank you John second with Lancaster and I'm going to
what John has said about the EV charging stations it does eliminate uh some of the range anxiety that people have when they come into town and um I find it very interesting that when I was younger how many gas station we had about 12 gas
stations in this town and now we have EV charging stations how things have changed um no gas um yeah veter had them too so now we don't have any um
also really really grateful that we're moving this uh the plastic um not the plastic but the construction containment Le along uh we now have 12 cities in the state of New Jersey that and and it's growing it's going to be on Galilee
Township's agenda next next week and northfield's looking at it looking and more so I think we're doing right this thanks Ste is there a motion to close public comment motion second mayor Collins yes
commissioner blumber yes commissioner horn yes all right I will now open a public comment on resolutions and AD ordinance adoption only if anyone has any comment on the items on today's agenda please step forward is there a motion to close public
comment before we close Mike Pat do you want to comment on 72205 there were couple of things that were errors that were done just want to make one that
what page the re and then there were a couple of titles that were added ination you contract and okay thank you right is there a motion to close public
comment on resolution and ordinance adoption also presid MC um it's been a pleasure guys like work with you honestly this has been best contract negotiations I think fair and everything else um we both won we
both lost but I think we're coming out uh very fair um the one thing that wasn't in here we talked about uh you know backdated to January 1 and we just want to make sure that we be
retro couple mons just comment Dom excuse me if you know I meant to um comment in the last session that Dave has already begun calculating the Retro payments but I told them to wait until
after this was adopted and anyone who was owed a retro payment it will go back to January 1 and it will be in the next pay cycle which the pay date I believe is April 3D okay yeah that's and that includes also any retro
deductions for any excess you know Pion are Health awesome thank you guys so I I think before when we get to voting on that resolution I think we should make a motion to approve the Amendments and do
we need Pat do you need any approval from Dominic and the MTA to those amendments as well justed to conf we talk about the amendment okay so I'd like to make a motion to amend the contract as to to your stating uh which will be what we
vote on when we get to that point is there a second second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumber yes commissioner horn yes all right so now we will move to close public comment on resolutions and ordinance adoption I'll make that motion
second mayor Collins yes commissioner Lumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right Lisa will you proceed please may I have a motion for the introduction of ordinance number 08225 an ordinance amending the Margate
City Municipal Code chapter 111 Construction general requirements to promote clean and safe work sites for contractors within the city of Margate motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner
horn yes M I have a motion for ordinance number 09- 2025 authorizing andc electric supplys service equipment Ed and make ready parking spaces motion
second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner H yes may I have a motion for the adoption of ordinance number 07225 calendar year 2025 ordinance to exceed the municipal budget
appropriation limits and to establish a c bank motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for res
resolution number 69- 2025 authorizing bill payment and claims motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for resolution number
70-22 authorizing promotion equate as clerk two motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg I abstain commissioner horn yes I have a motion for resolution number
71225 authorizing the city of Margate to enter into a seasonal lease with yo 11 Inc for the greenhouse Beach Bar property motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for
resolution number 72- I'm sorry we do the amendment first I'm may I have a motion for the amendment to resolution number 72- 2025 approval of contract with Margate city
employees Association January 1 2025 through December 31st 2025 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumber yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for approval of contract with Margate city employees Association
January 1 2025 through December 31st 2025 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumber yes commissioner horn yes now I have a motion for the consent agenda which consists of resolution number
73225 through resolution number 79- 2025 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for resolution number
880-22 declaring closed session motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes Scott would you like to comment before we clear the room
yes action may be taken I believe you will after you come out of okay so we will now ask the public to leave the room and if anyone is remaining when we come out of Clos session we will invite you back in motion to come out of closed session
motion second wa we have to Mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right so we uh discussed in closed session the uh implementation the of the revocable
license for the uh 9700 Avenue property tequila sure Lisa do you want to proceed with 81 please now I have a motion for resolution number
81202 a resolution authorizing execution of a revocable license for a portion of city property adjacent to 9700 ventner Avenue block 131 Lot 21 motion second
mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right is there a motion to adjourn motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right
thank you everybody enjoy your evening