Leave the door open. >> I'll tell you what. >> Like to call the meeting to order, please. >> Johanna, will you read the statement of compliance? The notice requirements of the open public meeting act for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual
meeting notice was sent to the press of Atlantic City Courier Post, posted on the Bolton board the municipal building, the municipal website, and filed in the office of the municipal clerk. Please turn off all cell phones. >> Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.
>> Attention salute. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Johanna, please take the role.
>> Mayor Collins >> here. >> Commissioner Blumb, >> I am here. >> Commissioner Horn >> here. >> Welcome everybody. Uh we will begin. I'm going to hand the floor off to Tara to do a presentation on our water billing cycle. Okay. Hi everyone.
>> Hi everyone. Tara Mazi here. Um I'm proposing that we change the current water billing cycle goal for the city. Uh the annual billing right now for water is September 1st to August 31st. Always due the following
year of June 1st. The sewer is currently on a calendar year and excess goes out in October of each year. So what I'm proposing is uh for the 2026 annual billing would include a second payment
coupon for $100 representing four months from September to December of 2026. So the annual is $300 for 12 months divide divided by 12 is about $25 a month. So for four months equals $100. Um I'm also
proposing that we make that extra hundred due either September or October of 2026. So the annual would stay at 820 for the water and sewer and that water would go back to 91 of last year to 831
this year. Uh that's due June 1st as normal. And then so that would be one coupon at the bottom $8.20 and then there would be a second coupon above that that would be for $100. Um this would be for most residential
accounts with a 1 inch meter. So, the other the other options are if they have an inch and a half meter, it would be $150, which are mostly like restaurants, and a 2-in meter, which is rare, would be an extra $200.
We put a call into Leon to see how that would affect the budget. Um, we haven't heard back from him yet on that. And um the reason for this is it's going to allow for easier computing for final reads and settlements in my office. It
will align the calendar year for for seer sewer billing. It'll be less confusing for homeowners when they receive their bill because they'll call and say, "I didn't own the property September 1st of last year." Um or they'll see the read. So it'll be
hopefully a little bit better streamlined for them. Um, and the city budgets on a calendar year, too. And since we've done a lot of these meter replacements and they're being read remotely, it's not it's not going to affect the excess. We can read the ones
that have been changed out. We can read those meters daily if we wanted to. So, there's no problem with people going out and getting reads, you know, if we decided to change that in December or or January for excess reading.
So, that is um pretty much all I have on that, but it was suggested that I bring it to the workshop so all three of you are aware um and can kind of make a decision. And if you want, we can wait until we hear from Leon to see if it's going to affect the budget or what his
recommendations are until next meeting. But I would I would need to know by next meeting to get that bill rolling. >> Okay. So, I mean, I think it makes sense to put it on the calendar year. I think I'd be in favor of that. I guess my only question would be this year, I understand that the two coupons, next
year's mailing, is it going to come out the same time? Is the bill still do the same in June 1st of 27? Is that going to still align or we >> Yes. So, next year's billing would be exactly the way that it normally is. It would be 8:20. We would bill March 1st and it would be due June 1st, but we
would be caught up for the last four months of this year. So, it would be from January to December. So, both would be on a calendar year. Okay, >> I just have a question. How are we going to get this out to the public? So, there's not a lot of questions. Why
am I getting build again? >> Right. So, ideas were website, social media, talking about it here at the workshop. Hopefully, a lot of residents listen in. Um, and I think social media really might be like the best
communication as far as this goes. People are going to call they're going to call the office and and we get the calls all the time. We're used to it. So, um I could put a little notice in the bill, but it will state, you know, your your $820 for whatever the billing
cycle is, and then it'll list it below September through December 2026 $100. Maybe something moving to the calendar year like something concrete in the bill. >> Yeah, I think a notice in the bill would make sense just >> Okay. for any just to clear up any
uncertainty that people may have. >> Okay. >> When does the bump occur increase? Is it this coming May or the following? >> So, it's not an increase. This is just changing the cycle. >> Bill amount will be four extra months,
right? >> Yeah. It' be an extra $100, >> right? >> And it would represent September of this year to December of this year. >> So, when is that due? that >> it'll be due. We're thinking September 1st or October 1st. It it really depends.
We can make that decision, but I'm thinking in the fall. >> Yes. And if they wanted to send in 920 at one time, you know, certainly they can prepay. A lot of people, I think, are going to take that option.
And as always, we take payment um I don't want to say payment plans, but whatever people send in. Like there's a lot of people that send in $70 a month and we just apply that to their account. So that's Yeah. >> Tara, don't we have a mailer going out
pretty soon? What's going out the Linda's working on with all the department heads? >> So that is the flyer. So that >> which goes in >> that goes in the utility bill that'll have the beach badge information. um whatever police and fire
issues, building department usually has something in there. >> So, and that's going out what in the next couple of weeks, right? >> We're going to have to have that. Yes. Have that ready by February 10th. So, we could put something in that. >> I would think that that would be a great idea. Make a little make it like right
in the front page notice, you know, and >> Yeah, we could do that. >> We're not raising your We're not raising your bill. We're just >> reallocating. Yes. Right. And on that note, >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> A decision now.
>> The next meeting by the next meeting, we need a decision. Yeah. >> On that same note, I have um a request from Joe Johnston had reached out to me >> to see if we could add a notice, a fax
um notice for the lead service line replacements. So, there may be an additional flyer that goes in. it would be totally separate from the normal flyer we have. And I did let him know we need that by February 10th in a PDF format to send to the printing company.
So that will cost a little bit more, you know, and I don't have those um I haven't heard back from our billing company either, the printing company. So waiting on them also. So I'll have more answers next meeting. >> Okay.
>> So Tara, I would just say I think we are all in agreement. Sounds like as long as Leon doesn't give us any major reason why this would affect the budget or something um would adversely affect the budget, I don't think you need to come back to us. As long as that's clear,
>> let's move forward with that plan. >> All right. >> And and like you and I talked about, we just have to develop some clear concise language to that explains to the people exactly what we're doing that so it's not too confusing,
>> right? and we can you guys can work to do that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you. >> All right. We will now move to our engineering report. Ed, >> thank you, mayor. Good evening, everyone. Starting off with our dredging uh citywide dredging permit. So, we didn't make it in time for press time,
but we actually received um our approved Army Corps citywide dredging permit late last week. So, we're now fully legal. We have our fully approved NJD permit, fully approved Army Corps permit. Um, so we're ready to roll as far as um private property owners that
want to dredge under our citywide permit, which is what we've been talking about. And there will be a public a public outreach um effort that will go along with this. We're working on an administrative process for private property owners that want to dredge under the citywide permit. It's not so much a city permit. We're not going to really be reviewing or inspecting
things, but we want a process to track who wants to dredge under our permit and make sure that they are provided with a copy of our permit. they understand what the conditions are almost to just track who's going in under that um permit. So, um major milestone that we now have all that permitting in place and then that
leads into um item number B which is Shelter Island. We have engaged Stockton to do the work the additional work that they need to do to keep that permitting process going as our ultimate um placement site for our dredge material for city dredging project. Uh so they're
they're doing their work, we're doing our work, and then we will be making a follow-up submission to the D to um advance that permit process. So really good progress on both fronts. Um the citywide dredging permit basically is in place now. So now we're going to move into a public outreach mode on that. So
um that's where we are with dredging. Item C is the pump station down on Amherst Avenue. I reported at um the last meeting that I attended that we did get our approval from Green Acres for the alternate pump station sites. So now we're just we can now finish the design, move that project towards bidding. The
public works building, we had our uh public presentations and uh we obviously had the bond ordinances. So now we can implement some of those changes and alternate bids that we talked about um for potential um savings once we go out to bid. So we can now also advance that project towards bidding. The Veter
Avenue parking lot will be readvertised for bids. Um we did not receive bids the last time it went out. We may we're going to make a couple um adjustments potentially down the line, but for now we're just going to put it back out to bid and see if we maybe get some more active participation. Um we'll see when
what bids come in. Item F is our storm water mapping. No update there. No update on item G, which is our wershed improvement plan. Uh jumping over to page two, the lead service line um project that Tara mentioned um is out into active
construction. And we also have um the public outreach effort which includes that fact sheet um that'll be mailed out and we'll there'll be some other items to come um public information session, social media outreach um so we'll have more information on that as those items
are scheduled. The Bloom Pavilion is being worked on as far as plans and specs to get that project out to bid. Uh you see our pending grant application list. There's no update here other than the 2026 municipal A grant that I announced a couple meetings ago, which is part of our upcoming capital budget
for Winchester Avenue. Jumping down to construction projects, you can see we've re-uped the list of open ma maintenance bonds. So, we'll be inspecting those and releasing those throughout the year just like we do every year. This is basically our two-year warranty on our capital improvement projects. And we have an
opportunity to inspect those projects two years after completion to make sure there's no deficiencies. And if there are, we have the contractor come back and take care of it. So, um, that list has been renewed. Projects in closeout. We did, uh, move one project off the list here, the 300 400 block of Thorough Avenue. So, that project has been closed
out. And the Sig Rim, uh, restroom building has moved into closeout phase. Uh, so we're doing a good job moving these projects through construction and into closeout. The 2023 road program is in progress. The gas company was doing some work out on
Fredericksburg Avenue. we wanted to get done ahead of our road work. The uh Washington Avenue streetscape project continues to be under construction. Jumping to page three, uh 2024 road program in progress. I mentioned the
lead service line replacement project also in progress. The bike lane painting on Atlantic Avenue will begin after the um latest section is paved from Huntington to Mansfield. uh the the contractor for that section of Atlantic
Avenue plans on starting work by the end of the month. And then two um projects at the end of the list here which were recently awarded the redevelopment of well 10. Um we had our pre-construction meetings. We'll get that project moving and then the 2025 road program. We're just getting the contract squared away
with the contractor and then we'll get that project um into a pre-construction meeting. That's my report. So, Ed, can you just I was back and forth with Pat and JJ a little bit today. Um maybe some confusion because there's it looks like they're setting up for construction on
Washington Avenue the on the northbound side. Um even though we're only in phase one, correct? >> Of two, but that's lead service line related. So, could maybe just touch on that because we obviously want to get that done before streets paved. So, the the lead service line work um involves,
as I've mentioned, replacing the pipes, not just from the street to the curb, but from the curb to the homes. And we want to make sure that if there's any pipes that need to be replaced under the sidewalk, that those pipes are replaced before we go in and put in new sidewalks. So, we have the the lead service line contractor working ahead of
the streetscape contractor to get their work done. That way, once we do move on to the second phase of Washington Avenue, that work will all be done. We won't be holding up our other contractors. So, it's more of just a sequencing um effort. It's not the streetscape work that's taking place yet.
>> Right. So, that if for the residents along Washington Avenue, there will be some work done. >> Yep. >> I think the end date was proposed for April hopefully. You know, obviously before the summertime, but there will be some work completed, but it's not streetscape related specifically. >> That's correct. Okay. And mayor and
mayor just to dovetail on that because Washington Avenue, there's a lot of construction on Washington Avenue, the 200 block of Washington Avenue with the new construction that is going on there. There's been street closures there. Again, nothing to do with this project. It's more utility line work to hook up for the new uh building that's being put
there. So, that entire area has a lot of construction going on on a daily basis. So, part of it is the streetscape and part of it is just hookups from the utilities. So there is a lot of construction in that area. >> Yeah. Thank you, Chief. Good. Yep. All
right. Thank you, Ed. We will now move to our department head reports. Chief Adams, would you like to begin, please? There we go. Thank you, Mayor, commissioners. Um, I'm just going to give uh we we've been working together with OEM, uh, Chuck Labar, the county
OEM, and through Joe Marti, who has been real good with us as far as providing us updates and information regarding the storm. Uh, I think everybody went into panic mode in the beginning of the week because they talked about the storm in excess of 20 ines of snow hitting our
area, but as we well know, that kind of settled down during the course of the week. But um we are looking for something uh snow to start somewhere between 10 pm and 2 am on Saturday night. Uh we're looking for somewhere in
the range of 4 to 7 in. And we're looking for it to change to sleet and rain sometime during Sunday afternoon. Um it may continue into the pre-dawn hours on Monday with some light snow or rain, but right now that's a projection
we're looking at. We will re-evaluate this again tomorrow, but we wanted to just make sure we stayed on top of this with our residents and try and keep everybody informed. We did put out a message yesterday on social media just for people to be prepared. You know, get the basic essentials what you need. Make
sure you have your medicines. Just make sure you're prepared. Um some other factors with the storm. We are going to have some wind issues. Uh the storm will start out as a northeast wind 20 to 30 miles per hour with gusts up to 50. Um
it will switch out of the east on Sunday still in that range of 20 to 30 mph with 50 mph gust and then switch to northwest probably like 10 to 15 m an hour with 30 mph gusts on Monday. So it will go offshore. The fact that it is northeast
and the fact that the water temperature is hovering around 38 degrees kind of gives us a better chance of a mixture of sleet and snow versus directly snow. But as we know that can shift at any time. So that could change and as soon as we
get information and we have it, we'll provide it. The only other factor we have to worry about or look at is our normal floodprone areas. We could be looking at minor tidal flooding at the high tide on Saturday night, which is around 11:55,
Sunday afternoon at 12:15, and again at Monday, uh, early morning hours at 12:54 a.m. So, just something. So, if you live in those floodprone areas that you're normally, you know, that flood, move your vehicles to higher ground. Just take the normal precautions that we
always do. And as we get any additional information, we'll keep everybody updated via our social media platform and through the, you know, Facebook pages. So, but that's all I have. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you, Chief and Tara. Just confirming you're all set, correct?
>> Great. Thank you, Chief Henson. >> Thank you, Mayor Commissioners. Just to dovtail off of Chief Adams, again, when we have impending winter storms, I know everybody is curious. They want to see what it looks like, but depending on the roadways, it's safer to be at home than on the on the roads. Especially with
public works out there saling the roads, plowing. They said we don't need more cars on the streets. We could really use less cars on the street. So again, I always try to re reiterate, we're all curious. We all want to see what the beach looks like, how much snow we got, but it's safer to be at home. It's safer
for all the first responders. It's safer for public work. So, I would just really hope that everybody would try to stay home and don't let curiosity get the better of you. Just one more thing. Uh, we spoke about it earlier and it actually came to fruition. Although some
people think it's a little strict, there is a new ebike ebike law that was passed in New Jersey on January 19th. It is one of, if not the most restrictive in the country. Some of the highlights of it that no one under 15 can utilize an
ebike. 15 to 16 years old. You have to have a motorcycle motorized bicycle license or permit 17 or over valid New Jersey driver's license. They have to be registered and insured. It affects all platforms of ebike classes, the pedal assist, the throttle, the high-powered.
There's a ban on modification kits. And like I said, it's a very restrictive law, the most restrictive in the country. There is a six-month grace period. So, none of this will go into effect until July 19th of this year. So, again, I think everybody's kind of digesting the new law, trying to figure
out ways to enforce it properly. I'm even sure with the insurance companies, how are they going to ensure these these ebikes? So, again, it's there there's a little bit there's going to be a lot of growing pains with this new law, but I think it was time to do something because there have been some fatalities.
That's all I have. >> Great. Thank you, Chief Roger. Thank you, mayor and commissioners. Uh, next week is our planning board meeting. And to add on to what Dan is saying about the flooding and and the week after the storm is going to be below freezing
temperatures, so that ice is going to be sticking around for a while. So, we have to be careful. Um the construction office uh through Palma sent out an email to all the contractors to button down and button up their sights to keep safety with the high winds and the snow and the lack of
access. She felt it was important to send that. So that's just an example of her continuous uh proactive approach to handling the construction sites. And the ice cream vending and concessions bids will be ready sometime in February to receive bids in in uh
March. This is just for the ice cream. It will be a one-year contract with the right to extend it for one additional year. So, that's that's pretty much it. Great. Thank you, Roger. Pat, thank you. Good evening. Um, this couple weeks have been very busy.
Um, had some uh interviews for our finance position. Um, we went through a bunch of very good candidates and uh came up with a a short list for the commissioner to to review. um spoke with the county about different available uh
shared services, what what's out there, what we could possibly um look into. Um we met with an IT company um to look at um a different vendor for the IT uh sounds very promising uh to help
increase our web security and things like that. um met with the tequila bar owners. Um spoke with them about a couple things that uh we had issues with. Um did some contract negotiations with police and
fire. Uh met with our legal counsel over litigation. Um the we were notified uh by the Army Corps that the outfalls are supposed to be fixed. I know that was a question that Scott had asked um
whether the outfalls are going to be fixed. They're putting that stuff out to bid in February, March. They had asked about restrictions on hours um and asked if they could if we could abandon any restriction on our so they get it done quick. Um there have been no objections
to that. >> Yeah. >> Um >> yeah, they want to do low tide, I would imagine. >> Yeah. for whatever that low tide is, >> right? >> We should we should absolutely >> um we talked about uh possibly making a
veterans month uh the month of August. Um I met with um some insurance carriers for options on supplemental disability insurance um that we maybe could possibly offer to our employees. Um our 1099s have been filed to the IRS, mailed
out uh to the vendors. W2s were received today um for our employees um and uh we met with a small uh committee today actually over our our website. So we are looking to update our website uh
make improvements so that we have a better communication u we have the avail the availability to put out messages and things like that make it a lot easier for our residents. Um, and of course, um, I've been calling around making sure that all of our department heads have
what they need if they had anything extra that they needed for the storms coming up. Um, I know, um, the, uh, the fire chief and I spoke a couple times that we, we do have, um, uh, the availability for shelter in case something like we lose electric and heat
and stuff. >> Yeah, that's affirmative. Uh, you know, I've spoke about that with uh OEM Director Lear and um we do have a plan in place if something were to go wrong, they can make the notification to the fire department or the police department. We'll be sure to get them
somewhere to to stay warm until, you know, the power does come back on. There is a chance with ice that we may have power outages. So, just be prepared for that. And, uh, we will have a plan in place to handle anything like that. >> And that's all I have for now, sir. >> All right. So I just want to add
regarding the outfalls just for uh the public to have a better understanding. We have had some issues over the past year with the support system for these outfall pipes breaking off becoming hazardous. They're in the surf coming up coming up and uh beaching. We reached out to the Army Corps last year as part
of their 2025 beach replenishment program and said can we get these outfalls on there? It's a it's a pretty serious issue. Uh funding was not available to be included in that budget. So that's that's why they came back to us with this. So we're we're very grateful that they're doing that and
it's it's definitely something we need to move forward with. So all right. Thank you, Don. >> Good. >> Uh public works been doing our day-to-day uh all week and uh been busy getting ready for the storm. Like
everybody's mentioned, we have uh 21 pieces of equipment ready, 14 trucks with plows, seven machines. We got 600 tons of salt and uh we are going to close the yard on Sunday. Uh so we get the word out. Maybe Jesse can put it on
the website as well. Um so I think just uh pure safety, you know, a lot of machines moving around and stuff. So we're going to close it for the day and that's all we got. >> Great. Thank you, Tom. Scott, >> a number of things, city officials, and
>> one more time. >> I'm challenged on this. Okay, are we on? All right, we got this. Number of things. First, let's go to the tequila bar. I see some members in the audience, the public have a great interest here. We met the other day. Chief of police was there, Roger, uh, city administrator
Moran and myself, the owners of the bar, their lawyer. We had a fairly lengthy meeting. I'd say it was over an hour. Uh we worked on some of the serious issues that the neighbors are confronting and have reminded us repeatedly on on the
situation. And here's what we came up with first. And I haven't I just received this letter this afternoon. I will distribute it to you. It'll be a public document. So I don't have any problem with that. But here's a letter from Mr. Goldstein who represents the Tequila Bar. They are installing new
windows that were ordered. The total cost of these new windows and uh retrofitting the second level is $178,000. Now, we don't know if these windows will be the end all in the sound problem. Most likely not. They should greatly help though. So, the first step that
they're doing is that by the end of February, new windows will be that are being manufactured specifically for the tequila bar will be installed. We hope that they will help reduce the noise. >> Also, they have at our request, they've
consulted a sound engineer to limit the effects of the noise. Maybe there's different things that can be implemented, improvements. There's uh padding or some whatever they can put on the wall. They are going to bring in a sound engineer to take a look at some uh remedies. And they said
unfortunately the prior carbon fiber screen system didn't operate as they thought that it would to eliminate noise. So they're going to pursue another avenue in that direction. They're also u uh they had put up plexiglass windows
just as a stop gap and that's not really working out. But these other windows a cost of almost $200,000 hopefully will have some benefit. Also, they've uh committed to have a proactively uh pro patrol of the surrounding neighborhood.
We understand there's an issue about debris or trash or cans. So, much like memory's agreed to do, they're going to put some people out there at peak hours, peak times to try to uh remedy some of that situation. There's an issue also with regard to uh
trash pickup. apparently on a busy on a real good night trash overloads. Uh but we do not want the trash pickup early in the morning. So I think it's Pat we did we work that one out already for after
certain hour. Do you know? >> Yes. Anthony Edge actually called the company and spoke with the owners. Um we got we had gotten some complaints that the trash is being picked up too early. So, um, we we asked them to to make that
after 7 a.m. So, um, that's when our regular trash is picked up after 7 a.m. So, we made it consistent with what made sure it would be consistent with what we already have. So, so that's a good thing. It won't be earlier. Now, the other thing would be that Mr. Hilner
committed to meeting with the neighbors at their convenience to discuss these issues and perhaps being able to try to work out with them. I see you, Jeff, in there, Mrs. O'Brien. Um, we we we've talked to him about that. There should be a line of communication perhaps uh
with you. It certainly couldn't hurt. You don't have to do it, but he made the offer and uh I relay that to I'm sure you'll have comments to make so we can relay that to you. So, what we're trying to do is come up, you know, we we had uh
I believe it's over 17 summones guilty sheep. Wasn't that what it was? Had a thousand a cup. We have 14 14 some >> 14 of us. And uh we can certainly continue to find them on a steady basis, but that's not really the solution that
the neighbors want. So this is a big step forward. Hopefully they'll continue to act hopefully in good faith. The big thing is to turn the volume of the noise down. they're not going to be able to stop noise from people walking on the street or it is a commercial zone and it
was originally although it was operated as a liquor store but it was originally a bar but certainly not the noise that the neighbors have had to put up with in the past year. So those are our efforts to date that we're trying to get that problem straightened out and I'm sure there'll be comments in the public
portion. We can get into that later. Uh now some good news or different news. Uh Mr. Dixon was Ed Dixon was the veteran that came here. He came to my office, gave me some samples of resolutions of what other towns, I think it was Cape May and Atlantic City so far have passed
and I think I sent you copies of them to look at. He would like to have August dedicated as a Veterans Month. How could anybody be against that? I don't think. But that's up to you. Whatever you want to do. We're the ones you and through Jimmy Savio and our
public work put up all the memorials to our veterans. Uh and now we have a veteran that wants to have the month of August dedicated to veterans. I don't know. I think we could probably get behind that, but that's up to you. Two samples. Johanna has them as the to the
wording and whatnot to have a month dedicated to veterans. Uh so that's something I want you to consider. And last but not least, my favorite topic, dredging. As we all know, Eddie and the state finally we got our permits. Everything's moving forward. Sean
Scarbor bought Swift Marina and Jerome Avenue. And if you want to see what it looks like, he's been dredging over there right now. And actually, it's it's it's fun to watch. I did film some of it. He has the equipment. He has three front end. What would you call this? A
big arm. What is that called? >> Long reach. >> Long reach. Uh, okay. He has three long reach and and these 6t deep barges. They fill them up. They take it right over to the bulkhead. It's going on right now. It will be going on tomorrow if you want
to see it before the big snowstorm. Not a drop hits the street. No water hits the street. There's no mess, no dirt, nothing. These trucks have 18 cubic yard capacity. He fills them up only to 15 cubic yard. And he trucks them out to one of the two designated I think it's
Saran. And where is that? Not Corbin City or Estelle Manor. Uh, and they actually take them to a landfill, the sand or the dredge material. So, if you want to see what it looks like, once you have a contractor in there with the right equipment, it goes really quick.
He's done by next week. He will have done that whole area of his the marina he bought. And so, uh, what we're going to try to do is publicize this so that the individual homeowners and unit and marina owners will know that they can
move forward. I know that Roger and Eddie are working on maybe a a permit, not to create red tape or obstruct, but just to keep track of what's going on. And uh, so it's very impressive. I would invite anybody go
over to Mar and watch it. I might just bundle up and go over watch it again myself. I love seeing him dig. It's only been almost 10 years to get these permits. So, >> it's Yeah, Sunday might go over. So, but he's going to be done by Sunday. One other thing, and I wanted to get your
input on this, the three of you, >> the down beach buzz, and I see Sherry over there have asked me to go on a podcast tomorrow and they wanted me to talk about dredging, which I can do that pretty well. I I'm a talker as you know
and I do kind of know this topic pretty well but I didn't want to do it without talking about it and then see if you had any objections. Uh how do you feel about that? Let me go on their podcast. Now I don't know if they'll make more funny pictures of me
to mock me out like I did when I give the history of Margene. I'm hoping not. But uh are we cool with that? That's the question. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. You're good with me. >> You all right? Good by me. >> That's it. So Sherry, 11:00 tomorrow, you make your podcast. I will send you
some pictures. You can see what some of the uh areas are. And I think I already sent you the plans and the permit. You've got that. And my feeling is we need to publicize this as much as possible so people can start to make their plans. I know the log cabin, for instance, they're really talking about
trying to gather up their funds to try to make their docks functional. They are totally nonfunctional at this point in time. And there's a lot of people. The worst of the three lagoons, Nassau Avenue. Even at mid tide, it's tough for a boat to get in and out. So, there we
are. It's good. We're making some progress. That's what I have to report. >> Great. Thank you, Scott. >> Thank you, Scott. >> Scott, there's no chance they found my wife's cell phone. >> I know. I'm going to tell you. I know that. I know they find a lot of other stuff, but not that. >> All right. I'm going to come back to
Chief Adams who has one more. >> I just wanted to add one more thing. Uh Roger talked about it. After this storm, it's going to get very cold and it's going to stay cold for a while. This past week, we've had a number of water breaks uh between public works and the fire department responding to them. And
most of them are outside showers, sprinkler systems, and that. Please, I can't express enough to get the message out to our residents and and visitors and anybody out there, shut your water off. it. We're looking at the next
several weeks of temperatures below freezing with maybe one day in the next two weeks that goes above freezing. So, please heed the warnings, turn off the cold water. If something happens or excuse me, your outside water if something happens and it it ends up it
could destroy your interior of your residence. And we can't express that enough. And you know, public works has enough to do already to have to go out and and handle these breaks in emergencies. And the problem is they're shutting it off at the curb if we cannot find a shut off to eliminate the
problem. So therefore, that's shutting off your water to your heat, your hot water, everything. So, and you can't get it turned back on until you contact them to do so. So, please, you know, heed the warnings and make sure you shut your outside water off. Thank you. Thank you,
Chief Johanna. I would like everyone to know that beach badges are on sale over at the Bloom Pavilion from Monday through Friday, 9:00 a.m. to 300 p.m. Dog licenses are on sale in the
municipal clerk's office, $6 for a dog that's spayed and neutered, $9 if the dog is not, and you need to provide rabies vaccine. That's it. >> Great. Thank you. All right, we will now
open up public comment. If anyone has any comment for anything discussed in this meeting, please step forward. >> Jeff Hoffner, 5 South Monroe still going on. That's what I'm still hearing. >> So, they're putting fixed.
>> You got it. Are these fixed windows? And if you don't do something about >> So we're going to be back to the same old microphone, please. >> They can be open. >> Try sleep. >> I got you. >> So if they're going to be open, we're
going to be back to the same old mess in the summertime. Is it conditioned up there? >> They did. They say they're going to air condition, right? >> Yeah. During our meeting, one of the things they did mention were because we were worried about the windows possibly being open and they mentioned that they were going to try to condition that air
if I'm correct. Um the chief was there as well. So if they do condition the air, they're going to they're going to make sure that that's closed. >> What about the louvered ceiling? >> Led that's where the mutually is coming throughout the louver ceiling. >> They they assured us they would have the louvered ceiling closed. um especially
insulated >> especially especially if it's um if it's something that they're going to be conditioning. We did suggest possibly insulating it. Um they did say that they would uh talk to their engineer about that, the sound engineer about what they can or can't do with that as far as that
goes. So um this would be the this would be the next step if there's continued issues and we'll continue to address it. >> It's going to be dog and pony show all over again. I'm sure maybe not. No, >> you want to meet with these people at all. >> They know where I live to come knock on
my door. >> Well, he said he'd be happy to meet with you. >> Absolutely. Tell him to come spend the night at my house on Saturday night. >> Maybe. >> Yeah. See how he likes it. >> So, like that might be an option. Like if he sees it from your your point of view, >> I mean,
7:00 is great for the trash pickup. >> Hey, we're we're there. They're When I move into a new neighborhood, I introduce myself. That's how I work. Not a bad idea. >> Exactly. 7 o'clock is great Monday through Friday for the trash pickup. Saturday and Sunday doesn't work.
>> What time do you think it should be? >> After 10:00. >> So So we kind of have a complaint. >> Do you guys >> So we we we also have a complaint. >> You mean you want to hear what it sounds like? I I'll send you a video. >> Right. We're also getting complaints that the the trash is out there. So we,
as much as you're complaining that it's not that it's being picked up too early, we're also receiving complaints that it's out there that they're afraid that there's going to be animals and stuff like that. So it's kind of like a catch 22. We're trying to we're trying to get a happy medium. We, you know, we have some we have some residents complaining
that it's out there, they wake up, they don't want to see that out there. >> I don't want to see you do either. >> Right. And then there's some residents that don't want to be woke up early. So it's we're trying to we're trying to get some kind of a happy medium there. If I mean if >> 10 o'clock is awful awful early on on a on a Saturday and Sunday morning. >> Well,
>> excuse me. Seven o'clock. >> Yeah, I I can discuss it with Anthony Edge and if we want to look at a different time period, I mean I'm sure >> especially on Sundays, >> right? I'm sure that we can point. You're right. You know,
>> see what we can do. All right. >> Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Hi, Liz O'Brien for South Monroe. Thank you for following up on the meeting. Um, same thing. If, as Jeff said, if the windows open, they're just going to be open unless they if they're going to air
condition, they're going to have to put in a solid roof. They're not going to have louvered wind, you know, opening. So, this seems like they're just appeasing us by putting in these expensive windows. >> We doesn't sound like a solution. It doesn't sound like a solution though because the they're just going to open them until it's air conditioned or
everybody will be sweating to death in there. >> So, you open to a meeting with them? >> Yeah, like Jeff said, I Dana used to text me until she got very annoyed with me >> after coming to a meeting about a year ago here. >> How could that be? I think uh >> so at that meeting, >> the meeting could be very fruitful for
all of you. at the planning board meeting that I was at that my husband and I talked for a very long time with the the plans that were on the website for like a week or longer. We came with pages and pages of questions. I sat here. Arthur Chu was at the end of the
wall here and I said, "The trash area isn't big enough. I'm an engineer. My husband's an engineer." I looked right at him. I said, "The trash area isn't big enough. It's barely big enough for the first floor. Now you're adding a whole second floor that's going to be all bottles and recycling and more
trash. So yeah, we want it to be closed, but picking it up at early hours. And we also didn't talk about the fact that they're still throwing trash bottles. Like I have videos of it from this week
emptying full trash cans of bottles into the dumpster and it's clang clang clang. and my building is 10 ft away. >> So that's loud. At 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we're hearing that. >> And at the planning board meeting, Mr.
Goldstein said they would not be throwing away trash bottles after 10 p.m. or picking up trash until after 10:00 a.m. That's what he said at that meeting. Um the other thing is that came up this
week. Um, so we've talked about the trucks, the loading and unload, you know, the trucks blocking our driveway and sometimes the street because there's already maybe a truck blocking our driveway and there's only it's one lane left. Um, we've talked about that a lot
and we've talked about how it's Brian and Dana's cars that are in the loading zone and that's why they're blocking our driveway. So, I've never heard the answer. I'm not sure if there is an answer, but why do Dana and Brian Hilner have parking on the street where nobody
else can park? It's like their own little section of like I wouldn't be able to park there. I'd be towed. What if a beachgoer went and tried to park their car there all day long to go to the beach? That'd be towed in a minute. But they
get to park there 24/7, 365 days a year. Did they pay for a sticker? Did they pay the city? >> No. >> Why do they get to park there? >> I'm not aware. I'm not aware. >> Does anyone know?
>> Like, shouldn't they be towed? >> My suggestion would be call the police department. We will go there and we'll contact the owners and have the vehicles moved. I mean, that that's >> So, I did that last summer >> and that's what we we do that all the time. I mean, if you go around castles, cars park in the loading zone there. We have PVOS in the summer. They said we we
do, like I said, we will just contact us. We will do we will do that 100%. >> So, I have to just constantly call because they're just going to constantly they'll just move it and put it back. >> Well, like I said, at at some point, like I said, in my officers on patrol,
100% parking violations are something they enforce. >> Did they ever get towed? Have they ever been >> For the most part, it's our general. We will ticket vehicles that are in a loading zone. >> Have they gotten a ticket for that? >> I I can't tell you right now. I don't have those statistics in front of me, but like I said, we do it all over town,
whether it's Castles or Starbucks or Hot Bagels or the bank or all those places. >> We do enforce that, like I said, but sometimes, like I said, sometimes it does take a phone call and I like I >> did call last summer >> and >> and the police came and maybe they moved their car >> or maybe or maybe our PBOS's issued them
summones. I don't have that information right now, but I would be happy to let you know. So, this week, my tenant put the trash out in the yellow cross-hatched area that the city painted. Thank you. Because that's a good place to put the trash because nobody can park there. So, there was
extra trash and I guess Brian pulled up in his car and started yelling and screaming at my tenant um in the rain, dressed. He's like, his Range Rover is like in the middle of the street. He's screaming at me, throwing the trash in front of our driveway.
and making it very difficult so he can park his car where it shouldn't even be. And it just seems like everybody's looking the other way, but does anybody else in town have a free on street parking spot?
They do. >> That's >> I have a question. Did you call when that occurred >> this week? No, he told me about it a couple days later. I suggest I told him I said, "You should call the police right away. Call the police." Especially if he's yelling at you, like he shouldn't be screaming at you, throwing trash,
>> right? I just I just want to make sure that you Yeah, >> I suggested that. >> Okay. Thanks. >> That's it for today. Thank you. >> Thank you, Liz. >> Hi. Uh my name is Janine D. Purro. I'm at 6 South Monroe. Um this is my first
time at one of these meetings. I have not had the opportunity to speak here. Um, our family has owned this property for over 50 years. We've lived here. It's four generations of deep ruros. We are summer residents. Um, so I I'm not here in the winter. However, this whole
sunrise tequila bar that went up was just I I'm always the glass is half full. So, I was we've lived around commercial properties all this time. We've never had a problem. They've all been great neighbors. They're friends. Um, unfortunately the Sunrise Tequilibar, they are not great neighbors
and they are not friends. They are they're despicable. Um, our entire life has been disrupted. The noise, like Jeff said, is it's it's amazing. Um, we can't even sleep at night. Every bedroom that I have faces the rooftop deck. I I can't
even have company over. I don't have guests over um because the whole house just shakes. As Jeff said, it's a vibration. Um, what is most aggravating for us is that when there's not a single soul in the place, the music is still
going, the TVs are on, everything. I mean, I It's just not good neighbors. So, I'll give you an example. I was down here for um New Year's Eve, came home at 1:00 a.m., which I thought, "Oh, they'll be closed." Boom, boom, boom. I had guests, company,
nobody could sleep. I had to call the police, which I did. I had a very nice um officer come to my house. Um I was in my pajamas. Embarrassing. However, um he took all my information. He went over there. They subsequently closed everything down. But my point of this is
that there's nobody there 90% of the time when all of this is going on. Um the TV's on Sundays. As Jeff said, I'm not here, but he said it's it's all day long. So, I just I have a bunch of questions. I know that you've answered a
lot um with us talking to them. I would be more than happy to speak with them and have them become better neighbors. I think it's imperative that we speak with them um because it's unsustainable right now. But couple questions that haven't been discussed are, you know, they're
having workout classes. Okay. So, I don't think that was part of the planning uh approval process. I don't think that was ever discussed because they were supposed to open at 10:00 a.m. I thought. So, the classes start at 8:30 in the morning. It's yoga and Zumba. Um, they have instructor. It's on the rooftop deck. I can't have coffee. My
husband, we used to have coffee on the front deck. We cannot do that anymore. So, that's every weekend. Uh, then all day long they have parties, bomb mitzvah, birthday parties on the rooftop deck. So, it's it's constant noise. I thought we would have some reprieve during the day. This also goes on all
week long. Um, so we did send a letter to the health department. Uh, we haven't received any kind of response, but I'm just wondering what kind of enforcement the city can do for something like that because that was not in the original plans.
It's a health issue obviously. I mean, it's drink food and then people upstairs sweating and working out. So, >> do we have any way to combat that? So you think on a commercial property that has its co and merkantile that they
shouldn't be allowed to have a class in there? >> I do. Beings that they serve food and alcohol. >> So people are sweating. It's things come off of your body when you're working out. I mean, you know, if you work out hard, things are, you know, sweat, you know, things, cells, whatever. I think
it's disgusting personally. Um, it just wasn't an approved use for that space. The other thing that they're doing is cornhole. I know you've probably discussed that they have cornhole which blocks up the whole sideways sidewalks. I'm sorry. Um, and let me just see. I have one other
thing. Um, okay. So, I just what I don't understand I guess is the enforcement. So, there's so many violations that they're doing and I don't see that they're being enforced at all. I mean, we call all the time. We're
not I don't feel like I need to live here and police this this bar all day long 24/7. So, I just need to know how we can better communicate with the city all of our grievances, which we do at these meetings, but how it can be enforced um from what they originally said they were going to do. So, how can
we as residents and neighbors do that? And I think that's kind of what Scott was talking about as far as, you know, the meeting that the city uh city officials had with them, trying to get them to comply with certain things that
that they said uh during their zoning board application and working with them, you know, so that and again communicating with all of you as well. So that >> and I'm happy to communicate with them. However, I feel like, you know, they they kind of did a bait and switch. They came, they did the got the approval and
then everything's changed and they're doing whatever they want and they are really bad neighbors. So I feel like they need to be accountable in some way. So I just, you know, >> I agree with you and that's why I suggested there be a meeting between the neighbors and them. We have fined them.
I think it's over 17 14,000 17,000 >> 14,000 >> 14 so far. Um, we are contemplating other actions against them. Basically, we we don't want to go through this for another time. We're not
>> I certainly don't and I'm sure everybody else does. >> And I'm sure you feel that way, too. And look, it's unfortunate. You know, it was a licensed premises. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we've known commercial. >> Yeah. 15 years. It's been not No problem. >> You're right. There's They've done a lot of things that aren't fair to the
neighbors. So, what I'd like you to do for me is give me your contact info and that whoever else you have here. >> Sure. >> And I will try to arrange >> Okay. >> a meeting with them >> and maybe you're right about this with the with they do have the microphone or something with the yoga class. You're
hearing it >> and music. I mean, you know, you can't even have coffee anymore. It's just >> I Hey, I wouldn't be happy either. >> I will give this I thank you for your time and for listening. >> Give that back to >> I will give it back to you for sure. Thank you. >> Thank you.
Hello everyone. Sher Lillianfeld um full-time resident Margate. And um Ed knows I'm here because I always have questions about his report. But before that, I do want to thank public works and our public safety,
fire, and police for your preparedness for this upcoming storm. And let's hope our 38°ree ocean will keep us from not seeing what a lot of the country is seeing. And also very excited about the ebike law. And with that, you know,
always with any law, there's enforcement. So hopefully Atlantic City and Vetner, especially on the boardwalk with those ebikes, do enforce this. So I do have questions about the report. And the first thing I do want to mention
though is congratulations on the permits for the dredging. I know it took a really long time. Um, our solicitor Scott Abbott gave me some interesting stories about his times up in Trenton and we're looking forward to the podcast
tomorrow. The purpose of that is just to educate people so that they have the information. They're not guessing. They're going to hear it from the expert. And you mentioned private properties that can dredge under the city permit. And maybe if we can get
some more detail on that, we can help spread that word about like what would be involved and why, you know, this is a great opportunity for them to do the dredging on their properties for their boats. And this is a very big safety thing, you know, if the boats can't get through.
So Ed's ready for me to ask my questions. Um the first is you talked about um item C which is the Amherst Avenue resiliency improvements like that sounds really what is that like can you just explain that project
and the purpose and the pumping station and I'm an engineer yet it's still like foreign language to me a little bit. >> I sure can. Uh so what this project is and it's being partially funded by FEMA and some funding we received from the Ocean Wind Trust is a new storm water
pump station that will be located basically in the parking area of the Amherst Avenue Waterfront Park. So it's going to be underground. Uh you'll see a little bit of electrical control equipment above ground, but the the pumps and the machinery will be underground. The issue that we have is
the same issue that um most coastal communities have, which is when we have a high tide and we have a rainstorm, the pipes that go out into the bay are underwater and we don't get it. We get little to no relief when the water falls on the street, goes into the pipes and then the pipes can't drain into the bay
until the tide goes down. And depending on the timing of the tides and the storm, you know, it could take several cycles for all that to drain out of the system. The pump station would basically provide relief under pressure. So it would be pumping the water out through those outfalls into the bay during a
high tide storm. So we would get positive relief for the drain that fall the water that falls on the street into the street inlets into the pipes and instead of it waiting for the tide to go down, the pump station would push the water out into the bay. It's not going to be a silver bullet bullet. It's not going to be a cure all on on real big
high tide storms. We're still going to have a little bit of flooding, but this will allow us to break that cycle of waiting for those tides to go in and out for us to drain our drainage system. We'll get continuous pumping of, you know, storm water out into the bay. >> Well, that's super helpful. Actually,
like I mean, like I said, I read this and like what's this pump station? What's it for? So, there won't be as much flooding on Amhurst Avenue >> with this like cuz you know, we've had all this flooding on Amherst Avenue. So would this help alleviate some of that flooding?
>> Yes. So it would it would be on Amherst Avenue and the drainage system on Washington Avenue would also be tied into it. So there would be other positive impacts. There's a drainage area, Sher. Um I could share the map with you so you could just see the area of impact. >> Okay. And does it affect the water park?
I mean obviously when there's a big storm that water park's not going to be open. So it doesn't affect that that water park's still going to be there. It's just going to help with the the storm water pumping, >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Which wouldn't have an impact on the water.
>> Okay, great. So, my next question is on E the Ventner Avenue parking lot. Um, you said there were no bids and any insight why there's no bids? Is it because we you're asking for pvious?
Like, why why was there no bids? >> No, we could keep the pvious pave in. Um, >> yeah. Okay. I think >> it's hard to say. I mean, it depend. This happens from time to time. Contractors could be busy end of the year, you know, they just didn't get around to putting in a bid. Um, we didn't really get a ton of feedback on
exactly like exactly why they didn't submit a bid. Um, so like I said, this happens from time to time. We put it back out to bid. If, for example, we didn't get bids again, local public contract law actually allows us to negotiate with contractors to do the work if you put a project out to bid
twice and get no bids. Um, so that is another benefit to readvertising it for bids, but um, we'll see what happens once the we have the bid open. >> But you are keeping the pvious. >> Yep. >> Thank you. I see Mayor Collins shaking his head. Thank you. >> All right, so back on to storm water.
One of my favorite topics. Um, >> F item F30. Why are we have to remove trees based on this mapping? No. So, we're not removing trees based
on the mapping. What that what that item is saying is that what one of the requirements of D is that every municipality adopts a an ordinance regulating tree removal, which we already did and we sent that ordinance to D to comply. That's all that's saying.
>> Oh, so it's stormwater ordinance and mapping assistance. >> Somehow the DP has tied it in. >> Correct. >> Oh, okay. you know, being on the green team, just want to know if we're removing some of the five trees left in Margate. You know,
>> very big to me, >> right? >> We need our trees. >> Okay. Item G. Sorry, I'm almost done. >> Y, >> but again, you go through these things and I have a hard time understanding. Um, the watershed improvement plan. Can
you just give an overview of >> Yes. So items F and G are both related to what's called this the state's MS4 program, which is municipal separate storm water system. >> In plain English, the D regulates drainage at the municipal level. And
over the last 5 years plus, they've gotten more and more regulating. So they they they're increasing the requirements that we have to comply with. Yeah, I guess so. Item G, the waterershed improvement plan, is something that we are now required to do to comply with the DP. Basically, what
we do is we inventory all of our storm water assets and we develop a plan um for items that require improvement over a 50-year period or whatever it may be. So, they kind of have a um a template on what needs to be included in that plan. And this is one of the items that we have to complete to stay in compliance
with the state. It's not done yet. Um it's just in a draft form. >> Okay. But like I all I see is like watershed improvement plan. the draft plan has been submitted >> and I just want an overview. So, so thank you for that. >> And my final thing is on item I, the
Bloom Pavilion deck renovations. Um Oh, so that's just for the deck. >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, yeah. I I was thought you were going to redo the building and you know, >> just for the deck. Yep. >> Just for the deck. Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. >> You're welcome. >> And we'll see you tomorrow. See you tomorrow. >> Thank you, Sher. >> Joel Narov, 223 North Washington. Um, just a few quick questions, hopefully quick. Um, the first question is has to
do with, you know, the the tequila situation. That's not the first time that the zoning board has allowed outside music in a residential area. And we keep repeating the same mistake and
creating the same set of problems that we've seen in the past. I think Scott knows about the issues that we had. Um, is there a way, whether it's in the 5-year plan or something, to prevent
these rooftop open air music um, situations so that we you don't have to spend all of this time and create all the problems with the neighbors. I mean, it's a lesson that we should have learned in the past. It hasn't been
learned yet. I don't know who controls that decision, but it seems to me some way or another the city should simply say this can't continue and prevent it from even starting through the zoning
process. Is that a possibility? Anybody? >> I mean, are you suggesting no outside music at any of our restaurants 247? Is that what you're requesting? No, not necessarily, but clearly the kind the the the hours and everything and the
decibel levels uh have to be addressed. But the you know the answer is is that maybe if it's as close as even if they've existed before the residential
um buildings were um surrounding them. The simple fact is that uh it's a nuisance and you're spending a huge amount of time. They're spending a huge amount of time. The owners of the bar is spending
a huge amount of time and money and nobody likes them that lives anywhere near. So why can't the Z you it be put into some form within the the city's governance that we don't allow the
outside music uh except at certain hours? I mean obviously >> and that is that is in the ordinance currently. >> It's in the ordinance. >> Yes. It's
>> music outside should be done at >> Yeah. Well, we don't have that in uh on Ammerst Avenue, that's for certain. None of the I mean the places don't don't shut their music down at at uh
>> the ordinance is 10:00 >> for all all bars or restaurants in that has outside music. >> Yeah. Outside >> that's open to the air. How you define outside? >> Outside. >> What defines outside? >> I'm not Webster's dictionary. I'm not in
a position to define outside. But I will tell you >> like for instance tomatoes they're 100% >> right. I live across the street from them. I never hear them at all. >> They have but I believe they shut down at 10:00. Pretty sure they do.
>> Tideline doesn't. Tideline doesn't. >> I don't know about Tideline. >> Okay. Maynard's doesn't. >> Again, Tidelane has an interior and they're allowed to have music in the inter >> in the interior. But if the interior, you know, like there are problems if the
interior is largely open to the air, it's a I mean, what is an interior? That's why I asked >> that is the rub and maybe we should it should be defined. You got to find a way to do it instead of just smiling. >> On the other hand, I don't think you want to close down all these
establishments because that's one of the amenities of Margie. We're very unique town. We have some of the best restaurants in New Jersey. And a part of that scene is the music. So there has to be a happy meeting. We're trying to get to that happy meeting. It's real
difficult with tequila, no doubt. But I think we'll get there eventually. Hopefully. As far as the other ones, I I don't think we've ever had a complaint from Thailand. >> No. No. I I don't I I don't hear it, you know, unless you know I'm outside. Uh I
mean, it's it's not so loud in certain parts of it. the area that's actually, you know, uh the the side of Thailand. I'm not complaining about sil Thailand. I'm just saying, you know, I I've been I've been in Thailand line uh and the
music was extremely loud. I don't know how anybody could live in those units that they're building there. >> You know, it's a shame. >> Amherst Avenue has been entertainment for the last 75 years that I I'm aware of.
this situation. It's been a difficult situation because it was basically a liquor store. He was a bar licensed, but it was a liquor store. And then boom, a new facility comes in and we have zoning and it there's difficulties and a learning curve here. We're not going to
outlaw outside music. We might restrict it. We have many business establishments unlike most towns. We really have a lot of establishments. We're doing the best we can to try to rectify it. Okay. I just All I'm asking is we've
learned lessons here. Don't keep trying. Don't keep having to relearn the same lessons you've learned. >> Feeling the planning board won't approve their rooftop open air thing. I don't think so. >> Okay. >> But we have to deal with this one and we
acknowledge that problem. >> Okay. Couple of hopefully quicker questions. One on the the pumping station. What's the noise factor coming from the the pumping station? >> Uh like I don't have a precise answer, but like I said, all the pumping
equipment is subsurface. Um so, you know, the noise should be relatively minimal. >> Here is the water going through the pipe, >> right? Into the bay, right >> into Okay. All right. That's okay. That's fine. And then just a situation
that's occurring with the lead pipe uh movers. They they contacted me because um they found the lead pipe at the street level and wanted to try and trace it. They came into the house, they inspected the the pipe that comes in was
absolutely fine. Um and then the guy said to me, "I have no idea where this is going to. How do I get kept you know involved or in provided information to understand where does that lead pipe go because I don't know
whether it goes to the meters then then comes into the house because our meters are just by the side of the driveway. Um I asked the guy said well we got to send somebody over to find out where it goes. They have no idea but I haven't heard anything and this was a couple of weeks ago.
>> What's your question exactly? I'm sorry. The the question is there's a lead there's a lead pipe that >> on in the street >> at the at you know how they on Washington they've cut you know uh right at the the
>> by the side of the street where the I guess the pipes the meter the meter not the meters not the meters to the house the meters that's not our meters to the house it's it's the house are right next to the house this is uh right by the
street Okay. And when they dug it up, you know, they've got all the places dug up. Um they found the lead pipe there, >> but they when they didn't find it coming into the house, the guy said, "I have no idea where it's going." >> Piping, please.
>> Could be. Yeah. I I mean, I'll I'll I'll take your information and I'll try to find That's a pretty unique. It seemed a little >> odd, right? That's right. Okay. Y >> Yeah. I I I just want to be because they didn't know what was going on. I just wanted, you know,
>> you don't know if it's accurate. >> I have no idea cuz he had no idea. He just said, "We got to leave out." But it's >> my fells out here when they trenched in front of my building. They found at least a dozen old pipes that were inactive. They just left them there when they replaced it.
>> When your place, you used to be the old tavern. That's was there. Yeah. >> One of the oldest developments in Mari. I'm sure it's probably just an old abandoned bike. >> Yeah, >> but they can check that. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that >> usually relatively brand new. I think
your units were built what last >> It was 20 years ago. >> Nine years ago. >> 20. >> Oh, 20 years. >> I I I've been there 18 years. So, they started building it 19 years. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Thanks.
>> Thank you, Joel. There we go. >> Jeff Hoffer, 5 South Monroe. 10:00 has not been the cut off point at Tequila Bar for the past year. It's gone 1 2 2 o'clock in the morning. >> Yeah, but is it coming from downstairs?
>> It's not coming from downstairs. It's upstairs. Scotty, come on. >> I don't >> I can walk by Johnny's and they're blasting inside. You don't hear it across the street. Never hear it across the street at Johnny's. Never. >> Okay, Julie. I got it. >> All right. Not once. That's a shut off
at 10 o'clock. >> I hear you. >> And this is message for the chief. >> What's What's the protocol here when when the guys come out? Do they do driveby or is it inside? Is it outside? >> We we respond to every phone call that we get. >> No, I realize that we like I said, we do.
>> Like I said, if it is determined to be too loud, a summon is issued. And but there are sometimes and the officer does have some discretion because it could be lower here or higher there. Like I said, you are right in the line of sight. You are right in the line of sight. >> Absolutely. >> And there are different things
especially when it comes to the noise ordinance about how it is um uh the state noise ordinance about decibel readers. I've talked to chiefs that they try that and it becomes a debacle because again >> like I said so again it is a case by case basis. when it is loud, we are
writing them. We are, you know, we are, >> it might be not loud to you, some of your guys in the car. I understand that. >> And that's why we try, we we speak with the management, like I said, try to get it to a lower level. And also, we have explored some options when it comes to
maybe the renewal of their liquor license regarding the noise. It kind of gives more teeth to that noise. So, there are things that I am we are working on to abate the situation. I mean, I get out of an Uber at 12:00 and it's like, whoa. >> Yeah. Like I said, I I am happy to speak
with you anytime. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jeff. >> Janine Durro again. Six South Muro. Oh, >> do we have a >> Sorry. >> My pen, too. >> There you go. You got it. Um I just wanted to ask one question. Um
how piggybacking on Jeff's question. Um it is very loud at all times in our house. So whether it's just the DJ or the music, you know, a live band, it's much worse with that. Um but like he said in
our house, we hear it. How do we meet with an officer and actually get a citation? Like I would >> just just call 8221151. an officer will come over and like I said even there's always the option for you as the homeowner to issue a summon.
Okay. >> Like I said, there's always, like I said, there's always options to do it >> because I would like to issue a lot of summons because I feel like that this >> that is that's 100% your option and they will give you 100 they'll give you all the information >> because what I find out most of the time is what if I do talk to an officer, they
try to go talk to them to have them turn the music down, which I get it. They're trying not to do the summons. However, soon as they leave, it goes right back up and everything is >> Those are discussions we've had with management as well. And that was just brought up again recently. >> Yeah. So, I as the homeowner want to issue a summon. If I'm calling you, it's
because it's a big disturbance and it's a problem. So, I want a citation issued because the 13 citations that were issued before, >> I called minimum 40 times. Jeff probably called 150. I'm sure everybody's called >> and that's what we did. We do a, you know, a case by date, but again, it's always the option for the homeowner as
well. >> Okay. And then in order to do that, I have to have my driver's license and all that handy. >> Just just call the police form. They'll walk you right through it. >> Okay. Because I usually have it ready. It's it's an easy process. They'll assign a court date. Like I said, it'll go in front of the judge. Like I said, it's been done multiple times also. >> Okay. All right.
>> All right. Wonderful. And then my my only other thing again for the police department is that so they do have loading these unloading and loading zones. Okay. And they have one in the front and they have one on the side. >> Well, just the one in the front I believe is a bus stop. >> Oh, was that the bus stop? Yes. >> Because we actually there was actually
issues with that bus stop and they had to rip out the concrete. I'm not going to speak out of turn, but I know there was something with the pitch or something. That is a bus stop that's governed by New Jersey Transit. >> Oh, okay. So, what is happening is All right. So, the loading and unloading zones are always parked and it's not only it's everybody. Anybody parks
there. I mean, there's like um Jaylen Brunson parks there. I mean, there's all kinds of people that are >> contractors that park there. There a lot of people, >> right? And and that's fine if they're loading and unloading. However, you know, people are parked there for many hours. But more problematic is I mean, that's a problem, too. And I just feel
like they should be get a ticket like it should be a driveby. I I wish I had officers that all they did was drive up time. >> It would you would make a lot of money. It's a great revenue generator. >> From Memorial Day to Labor Day, we do have parking violations officer with the summer onslaught. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? We have
>> we we've had I think it's over a thousand parking tickets that are issued every year. >> Okay. Cuz I really >> And sometimes people are complain about our parking violations. Also, the same thing. >> But I said >> I always say to everybody, call when it's fresh, not 2 days later that it happened. >> Yeah. And that's you will always have
somebody respond. >> Okay. >> All right. Um but I guess the biggest problem is that in that um bus zone, there's always cars parked there >> and it happens. Anybody that goes to Wawa does the same thing. Like I said >> again, >> my officers do enforce it. If it's called in, if it's like I said, it's
part of their routine. >> Okay. And the just the problem I was going to point out is that when you come to the end of the street, you're trying to make >> structure. Yeah. >> Yeah. You can't see. So you have to I have to make a right or I can't even go really straight because you can't see. So you have to make a right hand turn. So it is blocking. Yes. >> Okay. So, and then my second question is just how do we determine when the
Sunrise Tequilibar is having their uh renewal for the liquor license? Like how do we how do we find out when that meeting is? >> Excuse me. >> End of June. >> End of June. Okay. And that will be in you know something that we can see like a newsletter. >> I just told you it's end of June.
>> End of June. >> You don't have to say anything. What What is the exact date when >> Yeah, that's what I mean. I like >> Johanna, do you know? I'm looking >> because aren't we allowed to attend that meeting? >> It's a resolution that's passed. So, it
would be June 25th. >> Okay, great. All right. >> Because we had to move the meetings due to Junth and 4th of July and 3rd of July. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> But it's a resolution that's presented to the commission. It's not an individual vote. Okay. Oh, okay. All right. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Any more public comment on workshop? >> Is there a motion to close public comment? >> Motion.
>> Second. >> Mayor Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Horn. >> Yes. >> Is there a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Mayor Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg. >> Yes. Commissioner >> Yes.
>> Thank you. We will move to the next meeting as soon as technology is ready. >> How do you tell if the pipes? >> Like to call the meeting to order, please. Johanna, will you read the statement of compliance? >> The notice requirements of the open
public meeting act for this meeting have been satisfied. A copy of the annual meeting notice was sent to the Atlantic City Press, the carrier posted on the Bolton board in the municipal building, the municipal website, and filed in the office of the municipal clerk. Please
turn off all cell phones. >> Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> Attention salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all. >> Johanna, please take the role. >> Mayor Collins, >> here. >> Commissioner Blowber, >> I am here. >> Commissioner Hore, >> here. >> Is there a motion for the approval of the January 8th, 2026 regular and workshop meeting minutes? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Mayor Collins? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Horde? >> Yes. All >> right. Right. We will now open up public comment to resolutions and ordinance adoption. If anyone has any comment on the items on today's agenda, please step forward. >> This on anything?
>> No, >> just the uh resolutions on the agenda. >> All right. Is there a motion to close public comment on resolution and ordinance adoption? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Mayor Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Wart.
>> Yes. >> You okay? All right, Johanna, will you proceed, please? >> Give me one minute, please. Okay. May I have a motion for the adoption of
ordinance number 1-2026, an ordinance amending chapter 269, water and sewer of the code of the city of Margate City, county of Atlantic, state of New Jersey. >> Motion. Second. >> Do I have a second?
>> Second. >> Mayor Collins? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Horn? >> Yes. >> May I have a motion for resolution number 22-2026 authorizing bill payment and claims? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Mayor Collins. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Horn. >> Yes. May I have a motion for resolution number 23-2026 authorizing payment to Kmar Homestead? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Mayor Collins, >> I abstain. >> Commissioner Blumbberg, >> yes. >> Commissioner Hord, >> yes. May I have a motion for the consent the consent agenda which consists of resolution number 24-2026
through resolution number 35-2026 >> motion >> second >> Mayor Collins yes >> Commissioner Blubber >> yes >> Commissioner Ward >> yes >> all right we will now open up to public comment if anyone has any comment please
step forward. >> Joel Narof, 223 North Washington Avenue. Um, just a question about what be Let me start all over again. The Tidelines building. Um, again, I'm not
complaining. I'm just saying the tidy lines building, but not I live close enough that I get all of the legal uh letter saying you're within a certain distance. The plans that I've always seen for that
building included um um commercial, retail, and a restaurant. the building's up uh and it only is a restaurant.
What constitutes a violation of the planning agreement if a builder builds something that turns out to be largely different than what we've been informed it's supposed to be? Now, I wasn't at
all the meetings, so I don't know, you know, whether there's been any changes that were presented at the meetings, but there is only a restaurant there. There's nothing else. There's no cat andies or any of that silliness. Um, and the reason I asked that question is if a
builder can build propose a building that's going to contain retail, commercial, and a restaurant in it, but only put a restaurant in it. What's different from that than if a builder
says he's going to build uh a development with six units and builds 12 units? I mean, I'm just trying to understand when we enforce what the zoning board or the planning
board agrees to. And it seems to me there's a building that looks like this is tidy line which is perhaps being adjudicated in court. What's the, you know, I don't understand what's good and what's not good, what's right and
what's not right and what's legal and what's illegal in terms of the development within bar. >> So, so I'll just answer briefly and maybe Roger you can support this a little bit. Uh there were changes along the way for Tideline. It's my understanding. When they apply for a CO,
those approved changes have to match what they're doing. So in order to get a CO, that would have to match. And my understanding is Tideline, there were changes to that use that were approved. And >> was it so that it was only going to be uh a restaurant?
>> They Yeah, it's a permitted use in that building. They were supposed to have a fuel station, too. and that was withdrawn uh for whatever reason, but they're still in compliance with what they proposed to both the city and the D.
They did not expand the site and and and the the other one you're talking about six units to 12 units. That's a that's a different you're comparing apples to oranges on that one. >> Okay. I I again what I said is I didn't attend all the meetings so I have no
idea whether there were changes but and I'm not necessarily against it again I have nothing against the tideline building except the fact that blocks about twothirds of my >> I think ultimately the the best answer is that in order to get a co you know
there has to be approvals that match the plan and and what their the designation is so that's where where the line is drawn >> so they they started off with one pro uh project ended up with something that was largely different. Basically got rid of
instead of three floors of of development just a restaurant and nobody was notified of that other than if if you went to the meetings. Is that correct? So why are you why do we get notified at the beginning of the process
with with designs and plans and nothing else? So we have to either make the make the meetings and if you're not a I'm a resident but if you're not a resident it's an impossibility to follow. Why why are we not informed of the changes that
goes on? >> So notifications required for variances correct >> any application to the planning board is required within 200 ft a notice within 10 days of the application. That's state law. >> I don't know what that means. I don't
know what you're you're telling me. state law. >> No, I mean >> law >> who who who you how do you notify or or what? Right. What >> is required to notify
>> all residents and properties within 200 ft of the site? >> I got the initial notification and no other notifications. >> Yeah. So, so Joel, when there's a variance, you'll get a notification. This is a permitted use. So if it changes from you know one permit at use
to another that doesn't constitute a variance. So therefore there's no no further notice given given to that. >> Okay. So this they they requested the change at the meetings and it was a allowable usage under the original
>> application. The square footage number of tables seats it's the same. And actually the intensity of the use is decreased >> because they spread it over the entire construction project. Is that correct? >> No, no, because they got rid of the fuel station. >> Okay.
>> All right. >> And the bait shop. >> In the bait shop. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Joel. >> You dropped your card. Oops. >> I got it. Thanks. >> You going up? >> No. No. I'm I'm okay.
>> Hi, Sher Lillianfeld. Um, full-time resident Margate and active member of the Green Team. I have not had the opportunity to be here at a meeting since uh, Mayor Collins, you represented us at the New Jersey League of Municipalities
bringing forth um, a resolution to the league for construction dust containment. Um, so on record, everyone should know that that resolution to the 564 municipalities that that go to the
league was passed unanimously. Um, one point that maybe you don't know, in December, in December, a draft bill was introduced at the state level for a construction dust containment
ordinance. So yeah, what we started in Margate and solicitor um Abbott, you know, I want to thank you for your very early support of that. I still remember the day I came here to just bring up
>> No, I look I've worked with you for for a long time as as a real estate professional and I refer my clients to you for your expertise. Um, no. I still remember the day that I came in here to talk to you about this
crazy idea about construction dust containment and you know why it's important and you you saw me in the back cuz I had not been to meetings before that and you're like Sher why are you here? I >> my fault.
>> It's my it's your fault and it's because >> you're changing the world. for helping keeping New Jersey clean. >> Yeah. >> Scott, please turn your microphone. >> Um, it's it just to be clear, it's not
just the microlastics. It's the silica dust, fiberglass, foam. There's so much construction pollution. I mean, you could just walk by a site, you see it all. But anyway, I did want to thank you again for for sponsoring that. And um
yeah, and it's at the state level now. And also Steve Jazaki, the chair of the Margie Green team, and I will be speaking to an or on a Zoom call for an organization called Beyond Plastics, which is a national Zoom call with all
their groups about this idea. You know, everyone thinks about plastics, but they don't think about these construction sites. Every time we talk to people about it, they're like, "Wow, like this makes so much sense. It's so simple. like why haven't we thought about it? So anyway, just wanted to thank you for
that from the green team. So >> thank you Sher >> since I was called on Steve Alman 9003 Amherst Staff and Margate. I don't really have anything to say except that you are a remarkable group of people
uh department heads, commissioners. Uh I've been sitting here for 25 years watching these meetings and you are a remarkable group of people with a lot of patience, a lot of knowledge, a lot of
planning and uh it's very proud to be a citizen of Margate. I thank you all for what you do. Even you, Chief. >> Thanks. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you, Steve. Is there a motion to close public comment? >> Motion.
>> Second. >> Mayor Collins? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Blumbberg? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Huller? >> Yes. >> Pat, is there a decision on close session? >> Yeah. Or necessary. >> Okay. Is there a motion to adjourn? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Mayor Collins? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Plumbumber? >> Yes. >> Commissioner War? >> Yes. >> Thank you everybody. Enjoy your evening.