##VIDEO ID:kPAbVOuvP_c## like to call the meeting to order please Johanna will you read the statement of compliance the notice requirements of the open public meeting act for this meeting have been satisfied a copy of the annual meeting notice was sent to the Atlantic City Press Star Ledger posted on the Bolton board in the municipal building the municipal website and filed in the office of the municipal clerk please turn off all electron devices please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance States indice Johanna please take the role mayor Collins here commissioner blumberg I am here commissioner horn here is there a motion for the approval of the December 19th 2024 regular and workshop meeting minutes motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumber yes commissioner horn yes all right we will now open up to public comment if anyone has any comment please step forward to the microphone state your name and address hello Happy New Year to everybody L Alexander 9704 vetner Avenue um here to talk about Zoom um I spoke to Mayor Collins um I'd asked if you had saw the resolution for um Stone Harbor which you had said you hadn't um Pat I had given you the resolution um did you get a chance to look it over or west Barber Barber Solutions thank you sorry about I show you the company you talk um he said he does not he has it right here I explained him he said that was was incorrect tell me he was incorrect I spoke to him so did I he also thater everybody else it's so I got question whether not it's the same app to app kind of thing so what I did was I scheduled meeting with him on S if you'd like to you know come here and with us like he seemed a bit confused are you talking to who did you talk to um um Wes is for Solutions yes he's he was very knowledgeable he was really on it yeah I mean I get further sent me three different people when I really yeah it wasn't like that at all evidently there's a Services contract I guess service contract you gave I was actually no I'm not sure what they were going over the guy was kind of very unsure of himself really I went to three different people they sent me to three different people in the last person was like but he was kind of like don't do that i' like to try get proposal said I you're more than wel to be here that that's really strange because you know when I spoke I spoke to them twice right and they were very professional and he was he was the he's the owner right I spoke to took me it took me three people or two people to get to him guess decid would be best to meet so you can see what we have and you don't know who you're meeting with um I have you can I can I can call you tomorrow or I can call you on Monday yeah one of the representes actually one of because there's also a manager that runs like I guess the sales department right um off hand I don't have his name I have it on my desk I could shoot you an email or I could call you I mean and he was also very professional and very on it they were they were professional and they were nice they were but they were kind of yeah I didn't get that at all it's so funny I had two conversations with them yeah I won't be but I won't even be in town all right well you know what Happ it if I touch base with you maybe we can see who you're talking to could yeah I can do that okay great because I didn't find that at all but okay we'll talk about it okay thank you thanks so much thank you Lana 7702 murst Avenue um question for our Chief Financial Officer back in November I had asked you questions about the tax increases um Mr B ask you it's okay I forward all the information you request for me on to others to provide to you so so I just have some questions and what I we had an increase of over two million $2.1 million from taxes collected from 20 2023 to 2024 of which I understand that from the information given to me 1.14 million was unfunded as you unfunded Capital ordinances from 2018 and 2019 okay that's news to a lot of people I think that we didn't know of that at that point in time when you are a financial officer that I understand this caused a problem and now cause us to our taxes to raise or no would you like me to respond or would you like me okay um what that is is the way it works and I I'll try to be as brief as possible because there's a lot to Capital and bonding and financing and it really gets a little complicated to the average person so I'll try to simplify it as best as possible um when there are capital projects done and uh and authorization is um approved for a capital ordinance they're sent in projects okay ordinarily we do not permanently Finance those projects you know at the time it's being ordin or authorized we usually hold a bond ordinance approximately every five years and we have a schedule in place so as to mitigate the impact on the residents for when you have to repay our debt service um there are certain times when we go out for permanent financing that the entire amount um of the ordinance was not funded could be for a few reasons you know um sometimes we within a limitation as to how much of a bond we're going to issue so there were some outstanding deferred unfunded ordinances from prior years cumulatively that had been you know we were chipping away at it over the years but that remained and it had to go out for permanent financing and rather than add that to a bond issue we funded it in our Municipal budget to pay for that so that was the reason for it um as far as notifying all the residents on a regular basis it's always included in our audit report and it shows all of our debt um and it shows what's funded and unfunded so it's always available for you to see it's not something that would be reported on you know on a weekly or a monthly basis it's there it's reported annually took six years to to fund it because this was back in 2018 and 2019 yes there were several but it it all falls into play with the schedule for our financing and and to the impact on our the $30 million bond that was taken out cover these um debt our recent bond issue no because the ones you're referring to were um funded in our 2024 Municipal increase did that plus I understand a million dollars of that also went towards the um salaries and health benefits is that true I'd have to look I I mean the tax increase went towards everything there hadn't been a tax increase in several years which is why the tax increase was about three and a half cents because oh we like to hold the line on taxes but you know costs go up every year that are beyond our control so this was definitely known in the past that there was going to be a tax increase to marget Residents well it's just a matter of time you can't have a flat tax rate in perpetuity well but again it was something that was always stated every time an election came up every year I'm not an elected official I'm just saying but as as of someone on the board when things were said like that there would be no tax increases it was known there would be tax increases here in Margie because of previous that okay but it was was said to me that there was a million dollars from the tax increase that went to the increases in pension healthare and salaries also so do you know how much the salar were increased because AC cost of living percentage was it 2% 3% increase in salaries I can give you the schedule of what the salary and wage increase the percentage was per line item but it varied you know many of the salary increases were contractual um our police our fire employes Association that was approved a few years ago so it it wasn't one set percentage across the board but it was about 2 two and a half percent depending you know on average but it could have been higher cumulatively was it higher than two and a half percent could they I would have to look there may be some individual salaries that were higher there may be some that were lower there's maybe some that are flat so you're looking at it you know in total that's we're trying get an idea what why it's not a flat rate of like maybe like you say 2.5 for everybody contract contracts there's different collective bargaining units well that's I understand what you're saying but the contracts themselves should be uniform in other words yeah denn the contract don't approve the cont so Dennis the contracts will call for a say a 2 and a half% increase or 2% or whatever that number is but then you'll have a promotion from somebody going from from you know one title to another whether it be in the police fire public works or in in City Hall so that that triggers additional percentage other than than the two to two and a half percent okay but if you have a contract with between police and fire okay I understand maybe tenure or whatever but when you have a cost of living raise across the board it's a a number that's for instance like Social Security year we got a whole 2.5% if you're Social Security okay so if you're getting an increase 2.5% goes across the board not 2.5 and I have a contract that gives me more money that's where I'm trying to get an idea what what were the increase if you have somebody that's going getting promoted from Sergeant to Lieutenant the cost of living is is is not the same for for that because they're getting a promotion so a title change be their salary they get not their cost of living in the contract you'll see what the cont contracts are what the schedule is for title and then also cost so you're saying you negotiate contracts not based on a straight line of in cost of living increase you base it on just a promotion so if I get a six I'm just GNA say if you get a sixth figure salary on top of that you get a different percentage for cost of living no no okay well then explain I I don't see how we get a different you know number I mean so so you have a cost of living increase but if you have a promotion somebody might get there's a different salary that they will get because of a change in title right I understand the salary change so but that ultimately means that maybe there's not a two and a half percent increase for X employee and Y employee so therefore the overall percentage is going to increase by more than the two and a half percent that is the the general cost of living because you have certain people with change in title and promotions that their salaries adjusted I I sure so so within our contracts with our organizations there may be step increases and those step increases naturally come from time serve right I I work I work give me a my background I work for Verizon I work for concast I was operation managers okay so so within those what is so you could be going from step one to step two which is a 2% increase and then you have the cost increas across the board for all those steps which is uniform right which could be uniform which be 2.5 but that one employe is now getting that's my question is it uniform across the board or do you have contracts that make it different oh there there were contracts negotiated at different times and for whatever reason they have different perent okay so are you going to have contracts in the future that don't have these steps in them were there just one uniform cross the board change so that's all part of negotiations and stuff that we we have to look at but for the most part we're trying to to make it so that it's a it's going to be very well I think well I'm trying to say a million dollars in increase in salaries and health benefits when we were told we negotiated contracts to lower the health and benefits you know I think some was mentioned like $200,000 we saved but then we take a million dollars and raise the citizens taxes that go across the board for health pensions and salaries okay over a period of time you know this was known we were going to have tax increases because the fact of unfund ordinances that are explained and do we have any other after 2018 and 2019 was there any in 2020 2021 2022 was there any what unfunded ordinances um there's I have to check the audit report but um the majority were funded last year we are going to uh additionally fund some of the remaining this year if not all of it but I have to verify the balance do we know how much is unfunded yes that's what I said I have to you have to okay we could know what that is because that would mean probably another what tax increase no not necessarily not necessarily what's that going to be covered by the bond that was taken out the $30 million Bond it will be known when um our Municipal budget for 2025 is prepared and approved because it's it's all part of everything and the entirety everything in the budget it's not just one thing you know will cause the budget to go up some things will go up some things will stay flat do we negotiate don't we negotiate our budget like in September or October of the previous year you don't you do it at the beginning of the year the it's starting to be compiled right now all the department heads have submitted their requests it'll be compiled it will be reviewed with the administrator who will then review it with each of the Commissioners after the board of school estimates meets we have we're required we cannot adopt our budget until our school board meets so uh usually in April our budget is introduced and then adopted um after the budget hearing a few weeks after that so our budgets run from May to the following May no the budgets are on a calendar year but we don't adopt the budget until into the year because our hands are tied we're still waiting for figures from the state you know it's not that easy it's not like we have total control of everything that we do so there's certain figures that we're we need to obtain from other you know entities in order to prepare them for example right now one of our collective bargaining units their contract expired the end of December that's currently in the negotiations I don't know you know what those salaries will be so I have by the time the budget is prepared we will know that and that will be incorporated but no you cannot there's it's not possible to introduce and adopt a budget in January but with the negotiations like that wouldn't you already say this is what you're going to offer to a contract sir there's a lot more to it okay and I don't mean to make light of it but not really as simple as that but trust me I do everything that is within my control to save money wherever possible well based on what I'm looking at this with the numbers I was giving that looks like we didn't save if we had as I say have a$2 million increase and half of it goes to salaries and to you know benefits and that type of that all right so you'll get those numbers for me requested okay absolutely thank you thank you Dennis do we have any other public comment is there a motion to close public comment motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes we will now open up public comment on resolutions on today's agenda if anyone has any comment on any items please step forward is there a motion to close public comment on resolutions motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes Johanna will you proceed please may have a motion for introduction of ordinance number one of 2025 and ordinance amending chapter 110 the uniform construction code fee of the code of the city of marate city county of Atlantic and state of New Jersey motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for the introduction of ordinance number two of 2024 an ordinance amending chapter 67 alcoholic beverage of the code of the city of Margate City County of Atlantic state of New Jersey Johanna you said 2024 oh 2025 excuse me motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner Lumberg yes commissioner hor yes may I have a motion for resolution number one of 2025 payment of claims Margate City Bill list payroll motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may have a motion for resolution number two of 2025 authorizing temporary budget motion second mayor May Collins yes commissioner plumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for resolution number three of 2025 authorizing 2025 P petty cash funds motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for resolution number four of 2025 authorizing official cash management plan motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may have a motion for resolution number five of 2025 authorizing establishing depositories and signatories motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg commissioner horn yes may have a motion for resolution number six of 2025 authorizing establish establish ment of city of Margate City fund balance policy for fiscal year 2025 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner plumberg yes commissioner horn yes may have a motion for resolution number four of 2025 authorizing authorization of credit cards credit cards and credit cards I'm sorry and credit card signatories that's a motion but Johanna you said four and it's seven number seven 2025 authorizing credit cards and credit card signatories motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes I have a motion for resolution number eight of 2025 authorizing cancellation of tax or utility overpayment and balances in the amount less than $10 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion for the consent agenda that which consists of resolution number nine of 2025 through resolution number 20 2025 motion second uh johanah if I may um 2025 was not on the agenda that was sent out uh on Monday I think you sent it out on Monday it did not include 2025 correct when was 2025 added when I and was it advertised in the paper because this it was upd resolution it was updated on the website and I needed permission from the ba to put it on and so P were you aware that it wasn't on and that we hadn't seen it and that it's un it was under review with uh with froger did I miss that right it was not on on the one that we got correct did you resend that out to us with this on no I'm sorry respectfully I would ask that that be pulled because it wasn't on and my understanding is that it was still under review if if you're okay with that I'd like to pull that and we can vote on it the next meeting it's fine by me that's have the bathroom clean foreks correct okay so again when this was discussed we were it was disced us that we were going to um authorize the current service to clean uh for an extra month until we resolved this issue here Tony has has turned in his keys I I I'm unaware of any of this conversation I just was told I was allowed to put the resolution on the agenda again I request that we pull it and vote on it at the next meeting so Lisa if we if we pull this and we authorize somebody else to do temporary cleaning for two weeks it would be under the bid threshold um and we can do it as previously paid for the next agenda I'm sorry and we can put it on as a previously paid on the next agenda you can invoice us yes but we also have Kathleen who's an employee who would probably be able to um do you know minimal cleaning I would think yeah so I mean Pat I'll go with your recommendation however you you think we should handle okay so we'll pull this and put it on the next agenda after further discussion I have a problem with that Scott I I have a problem with that no no no no that's not true okay it's not true and if we want to go into executive we can discuss it I don't think we should air this out in public well I just think there's a sanitary issue here and we'll my understanding is that we can take care of that it's more than just H like Matt has one bathroom for like 30 employees so we will have to do something in the meantime do we want to go ex session ex okay so just so everyone in the public is aware the the apparent low bidder here in my opinion his bid was irresponsible he was half the price on the base scope of work and double the price on the ancillary Services which will then require hire the city to spend extra time and extra money to manage this contract and in that regard it was my recommendation that this be thrown out Rewritten so that we would re limit our liability in the future and get better bids that's that's the intention here hey the price on the base scope of work you have a point we also concern as well okay so um let's do the responsible thing do we want to pull do we want to pull this from the consent agenda approve the consent agenda and then go into close session and vote on that resolution okay may I have a motion for the consent agenda which consists of resolution number 9 2025 through resolution number 19 2025 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes may I have a motion to go into close session motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right we're going to make a motion to come out of close s motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes so if I understand this correctly and I need your direction what we're going to do is hold off on accepting the janitorial bid and we're going to contact the existing janitorial service and ask them to provide Temporary Service while we look further into this janitorial bid uh situation is that correct cor correct and we you believe a motion should be made on that I so just a motion to table resolution 20-2 we're going to make a motion to table the resolution and to reach out to the existing janitorial service for temporary service'll instruct your Municipal administrator okay may I have a motion to table resolution number 2020 25 motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes it's more than just ta you're instructing your Municipal administrator to reach out to the current joral service well I I believe the administrator is going to have to discuss with the qpa the direction from there so I don't know so then actually I need a motion to pull resolution 2025 motion pull it we're pulling it so when we reintroduce it it's the same thing no it's to separate all right go ahead let's pull it motion second mayor Collins yes Commissioner of Lumberg yes commissioner horn yes okay and we will come back to this topic at a later date very good all right is there a motion to adjourn motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumber commissioner horn yes thank you everybody enjoy your evening --------- ##VIDEO ID:Q2WpPWE3Ji4## like to call the meeting to order please Johanna will you read the statement of compliance the notice requirements of the open public meeting act for this meeting have been satisfied a copy of the annual meeting notice was sent to the Press of Atlantic City Star Ledger posted on the bulleon board in the municipal building the municipal website and filed in the office of the municipal clerk please turn off all cell phones please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance United States Johanna please take the role mayor Collins here commissioner blumber I am here commissioner horn here welcome and happy New Year everybody uh we will begin with Ed in our engineering report thank you mayor good afternoon everyone happy New Year uh we will lead off as always with our dredging update and we actually do have a good update uh for this meeting after months of uh waiting for the DP to get back to us they did finally get back to us that the updated survey that we completed was acceptable to them moreover really what matters is all of the work that we did before based on the old survey is still good so they're not going to make us go out and redo a samping and take new samples that was the uh thumbs up we needed from the D so that we can now send our uh sampling data over to do who controls dredge hole 86 which is where our disposal site is um so now the dominoes can kind of start to fall so we will prepare that information send it over to do once we get a letter from do basically giving us the thumbs up for the use in the dredge hole that is the last remaining item that the EP needs to issue our per so this was the response that we were on and hoping for we finally got it good can I just ask one question um I mean I guess uh B takes into account Shelter Island but if we get the permit with that dredge hole and Shelter Island becomes an option down the road will the permit be valid for both it's not something that's pending based on the disposal site so we would just need to amend our permit to identify Shelter Island as a disposal site okay and that would be you know shorter process then going through a whole new permitting process it would just be an amendment to our Citywide reg okay change the disposal y thank you that's great news item b as we just mentioned is Shelter Island and we are working on uh working with the stock in coastal Research Center to address some comments from d on that but that will not hold up our dring permit which we can now move forward on the final steps item C is the Washington Avenue streets gate um we are finalizing those plans and we hope to have a meeting with the steering committee within the next couple weeks so we can kind of um put the finishing touches on the design and prepare that project for bidding the Amherst Avenue resiliency uh stormm Pump Station project is um in the process of the D diversion so that will take a little bit of time um in order for us to get approval to use that site for the pump station item e is the sigm walkway project which was bid the bids were rejected at the last commission meeting and we will be re advertising project for bid likewise item f is the new restroom building over at sigm also receive bids that were rejected and will be re advertising that project as well next two items are in design those are the Winchester Avenue um next phase and the 2024 Road program so they are in engineering design item I is our lead service line replacement project those plans continue to be prepared from phase one of that work uh the new Public Works building um is in the um construction document design process working with our architect uh we remain on schedule for a bit in the early part of this year item K is the parking lot on ventner Avenue we did finish our um all of our survey work for that property we have a boundary survey um and we are uh working on the design the site design for that parking lot so that's in progress item L is the next phase of the Atlantic Avenue bik Lan painting which we are preparing for bids and that will be coordinated with item M which is the next phase of Atlantic Avenue Road work from Huntington to Mansfield and we did finish up that survey work so we are putting the plans together for that project um now item n is the storm waterer ordinance and mapping uh compliance with d requirements we have been going back and forth with the D I know Pat we're working with you on their latest and greatest uh round of comments um so the fund doesn't end there um item o and item were uh the environmental uh review items associated with the Tor gas station site we discussed those at the last meeting and those documents have been issued to the city um under pending Grant applications we continue to monitor our application for mini Creek which was selected by FEMA for further review which typically means that you're on the path towards funding so that would be great if at some point um this year we do hear back from FEA that we were successful there jumping down to our construction projects we did uh re re up our list of Maintenance bonds that will come due in 2025 so just like in past years we will inspect those projects as the maintenance Bond approaches this expiration date to make sure that any um repairs are done before the maintenance Bond expires tur into page three we did move one of our projects up into closeout that's the Redevelopment of well n the 2023 Road program um we do have some additional work on orgal court that survey work um and base plans are being compl the uh 23 2023 State a for Winchester Avenue um was paved this week so we can now um prepare punch list for that project but we are substantially complete to that section of Winchester Avenue the basketball court project remains scheduled for the spring uh thurow Avenue they are working on the utilities out there and we do have some additional work that we are preparing plans for to add to that project the Winchester Avenue and venson Avenue intersection um is still in progress I know they were trying to finish Su they just did we just turned the water back home a half hour ago great I wasn't sure if they were going to get done this week or not great that's good news the LaCrosse wall um we're coordinating with the contractor for the precise location of that wall and the last two items are new to the construction list the curbing gutter program and the municipal building office Renovations phase two which were recently awarded um we have contract with the contractor and we're getting our preconstruction meetings together that's SM great thank you Ed now move to our department head reports Chief Adams would you like to begin sure thank you mayor Commissioners um one I just sent out an email within the last half hour 40 minutes to all of our city employees with a city email address um we all received an email later this afternoon about the 2025 cyber uh training and that is something that all of our employees are going to need to be need to complete to be in with our JF uh cyber training program um we have uh some cold weather coming up again I just want to remind our residents if you haven't turned off your outside water please do so during the last freeze up we did have a number of broken pipes and broken situations including lawn sprinklers so if you haven't turned off your lawn sprinklers or turned off your outside water please do so because we'd hate to see what the damage that could be caused by something that we could have taken care of uh and that's pretty much it thank you great thank you Chief Lisa thank you Happy New Year everyone just a couple things um just busy closing out the year end making some last minute entries so I could close out the system and roll it over to 2025 once that's done I'll be able to input the temporary budget so I'll let all the department heads know um when that's completed and when they could proceed with entering what they need to but in the me time if everyone can make sure that everything for 2024 is ented I would greatly appreciate it because uh after tomorrow morning I'm gonna hopefully be flipping the system um one thing I want to report are year-to dat interest on our investments held with the New Jersey asset rebate Management program um including December 31st which I just recorded today uh we earn 800 38,2 75 and that's a combination of all the in accounts held for five different funds not just the main operating fund um they were all in liquid Investments and the rate of interest was 4.44% which still continues to be higher than any of the fixed term investments um that's all I have for right now thank you thank you Chief Hinson thank you mayor commissioner just a couple quick things as we start roll into winter uh we see a lot more vacant houses because we're not in our busiest time of the year just to remind everybody lights are a great crime prevention measure motion lights are great especially with the Advent of ring cameras too they're really good options we have a lot of residents that live out of town that can keep updates on their home via their ring cameras it's a really really good crime prevention technique already started conversations about the summer of 2025 it'll be here before we know it so again I I look for today I look forward to a good year so I have thank you thank you Chief Pama good evening mayor and Commissioners happy New Year um I just for tonight I'll give a quick recap of 2024 in the building department uh we issued 844 construction permits and those are all under the uniform construction code our inspectors performed over 4,000 inspections and our office also processed 485 zoning permit applications so thank you for your support and I look forward to another productive year that's all we have Pat happy New Year everyone um we had about actually 20 houses we had to shut off within the last couple weeks with that the broken outside showers and and all that so uh we had two service two broken Services we had a w m break today at TH amher where to get fixed and uh we had the Gob deals auction that just ended 12:30 and we uh got about $14,000 out of the two tractors that we also go and we're prepared for tomorrow night might get a little snow tomorrow night and maybe a bigger one on Monday and we'll have everything ready to go thank you great thank you Pat Scott couple things mayor and Commissioners first of all some good news uh you know we've been going through a long process with Green Acres and having that Osborne Avenue strip of land released we finally got the written authorization that means we move forward now there's a fell who owns the adjoining property he's agreed to build 165 ft of bulkhead at our design so Eddie I know you're on top of that and you'll work with his engineer to make sure it's done which will include a handicapped access and stairway plus an additional payment of $226,000 plus this 1756 fo foot parcel approximately that will then be added to our tax rols because now they'll have a larger parcel of land so it's worked out it took a long time to get it off the recreation and open space inventory list but we were successful and I think it's really good thing for the city and uh actually the homeowner is very Cooperative too because you know they've used that area for many many many years as a parking area and whatnot for their private use never taxed for that so it's a good thing the other thing I wanted to mention is the comment that Eddie made about the dredging permit and the acceptance of this new survey if you'll recall we've had a very long process with the D and the Army Corps this involved meetings up in with the Army Corps in Philadelphia meetings in Trenton this took for years for took us years to get to this point and at at the early stages it was a hard no we weren't getting it because we had clams out there remember that and the late Senator Jimmy whan we went to him and he sponsored legislation and we were very fortunate to get that legislation passed which means that the shellfish habitat rules would not be applicable to the areas that are jooin areas that are bulkheaded and have docks so that was a law that Margate pushed but it benefits everybody Ocean City Asbury Park wherever the whole state of New Jersey so it was with with and I you know of course Jim whan passed away unfortunately uh but that's all I have to say there that I do remember him fondly and he really did us a solid on that one Jimmy and as for you Eddie I'm I'm glad you guys have gotten to this point it's unbelievable the red tape that we've had to go through now just for the edification of the public I like to make certain of this this is a this is what we wanted a Citywide permit and it means that each individual homeowner also has the right to dredge on their property under this permit is that correct Eddie correct so this will be a cityy permit that covers areas of the water that are under the city's control and areas of the water that are under private property under control right the city would Endeavor to dredge the areas that are under the city's control but we can arrange the bid such that um a private property owner could Avail themselves of our contractor and of our per Dr their own private um privately owned water so that means our marinas that means Scott stocks it means it's not Captain Andes anymore I don't know what is it means the homes on the lagoons the homes that face the everywhere that they need dredging if they want to dredge their property their own they can do it under our permit and the second half of that now dredge hole 86 is that deep hole 60 foot deep hole off at Chelsea Heights which we will pay there's some small amount we pay per cubic yard but we're also trying to get a permit to use our own dredge hole we own we the city of Margate owns half of shelder island with the city of Venter we have an agreement with Venter that we can use up to half of that capacity they can use up to half of it too and that permit again that's part of that's it's separate from the dredge permit but if we got to use that it would be a lot cheaper if we could use some of that dredge are and it's a good thing because we'll be restoring some of the wetlands that Island for instance I Happ to know uh has really eroded in the past 15 or 20 years and part of this would help preserve and restore that so it's a good thing all around and and this is a really big deal now that they've accepted that survey we don't have to do much of the other testing which cost what well over 100,000 I forget what it cost I know was well over chemical tests contamination tests it was pretty wild but it's a great thing we're actually really moving forward i' made my day thank you I appreciate thank you Scott Pat been workp purchas um person issues weed up out still Contin the research for the zoom I have meeting for called State try to talk to them about little temporary and we have some we got some ex we right thank you Pat Johanna I have one announcement and that is the primary election for June 3 has been moved to June 10th due to the observance of the Jewish holiday shivat um more things will be coming out once the state picks their days of what's going on but primaries are moved to the 10th of June thank you all right we will now open up public comment if anyone has any comment for anything discussed in this meeting please step forward to the microphone state your name and address stepen opman 9003 am advate Margie I have one quick question I've often wondered how building projects like Huntington Avenue to Mansfield get selected what what is the process for that area or the the other areas of road construction how do we determine the limitations or the inclusion in those Ed you want to take that sure so Avenue in particular that is a an ongoing project we've had multiple phases and a lot of this is driven by utilities so it's not just necessarily the condition of the pavement that you see when you're driving on the street obviously that plays a role but we have a lot of infrastructure in the ground and we work at public works department to kind of prioritize where utility workers needed and that drives a lot of the road selections and then sometimes there are roads that are in really poor shape that maybe that tips the scale an ongoing um collaboration with different departments within the city um and we have you know a list of roads that are kind of on our 10e plan capitalist and we take a look at those roads from year to year and based on changing conditions or issues with utilities you just heard Pat mention water being breaks things like that come up um that sometimes maybe shift our priorities you know from year to year so it's an ongoing process and since you've all been wishing each other happy and healthy New Year I want to say in addition uh as a longtime Observer of the commissions uh I'm really very proud of our new additions to the commission uh uh heads uh and to those older members I wish you all a happy healthy and prosperous new year and I'm very happy with all of your service to Margate thank you thank you St Sher Lilian Feld 7809 Wellington Avenue Ed says he can always hear me coming up right at because all my questions are related to his report usually um my first is and I'm also a member of the Margate Green Team which I'm sure you know so the storm waterer ordinance and mapping project is that map available for us like can we get it on the website um not yet because we're not finished it again yeah but it will be we're in the process of making revisions to the map the D we've kind of been I mean the reason why I asked is as you know I had introduced the um contractor ution ordinance and big part of that is the storm water is what gets washed off on these construction sites and goes in the storm water and understanding where it goes is helpful also in our education process of that ordinance and um Steve jaeki who's um our chair it's a kayaker he sees he sees where a lot of this pollution goes but you know a lot of people don't understand it so that's why I was asking and yes I would like a copy I think it would be helpful um you mentioned also the LaCrosse wall that's excellent um I'm just curious what are the options of where it might go I mean is it like just in one like so uh the wall is supposed to go on the Tai School field so across from Tai school there's a section away from where the the playing field is the specific location so next week Pat power myself and the contractor as well as representatives from um the lacrosse team we're all going to meet Tuesday morning and discuss the location because we just want to make sure that there's no um underlying Utilities in the ground where okay the proposed wall is so Pat has you know extensive knowledge of where all of the the the water man is there a water and a sewer storm water pipes so we just want to make sure when we when we lay this out that that's all in consideration but it's going to be in that tie fi yes correct okay that's I just really want to know generally I know a lot of those um having put four kids through the Margate schools and some of them played lacrosse and I know a lot of the kids that play I was just curious I think that's great I know number of them have gotten scholarships or going to college and with their lacr lacrosse playing okay just two other really quick things and I always mentioned this being from the green team with your infrastr with your projects with the paving and stuff I always say this please consider perious perious um Asphalt in those projects were practical and then the last thing um do we have a date yet on the ventner parking lot closing because I see you're moving along item k no not yet not yet okay thank you thank you do we have any more public comment on items discussed in this meeting is there a motion to close public comment motion I will second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes all right is there a motion to adjourn motion second mayor Collins yes commissioner blumberg yes commissioner horn yes