Good morning. I now call the February 5th, 2026 administrative briefing and work session of the Maring County School Board to order at 9:00 a.m. Please silence your electronic devices to avoid disturbing others. Mirroring and modeling how our students begin each day, I ask that you please pause with us
for a moment of silence. Please join me. I will now read our board commitment statement. We are the Maring County School District Leadership Team. When we come together to work, we are efficient, effective, and productive. Our three most important characteristics are dedicated, transparent, and individually
responsible. To work well together, we must demonstrate respect, confront reality, and be accountable. We will always put students first and we will leave a legacy of success. I would like to ask the schoolboard attorney to explain the rules for this public workshop. Good morning, Attorney Powers.
>> Good morning and thank you. This work session is a public meeting as defined in Florida's Sunshine Law. The board is dedicated to full transparency in its meetings and its work. In compliance with the Sunshine Law, the board has adopted uniform meeting procedures, including the right for citizens to
participate. The board will allow public comment regarding any work session item listed on today's agenda at the appropriate time. Speakers must fill out a request form located in the lobby and hand it to the board clerk. After the board and
superintendent have completed their discussion on a particular agenda item, the board clerk will call the speaker's name in the order received. Each speaker will have three minutes as required by Sunshine Law. The board must maintain orderly conduct and proper decorum throughout this meeting.
Finally, speakers must be very careful not to violate the privacy rights of others, especially students and their family members by mentioning their names or other identifying information. Thank you for your attention to these important rules. >> Thank you, Attorney Powers. And I do
want to welcome Miss Terry Brown to the stage. She is going to be helping Attorney Powers today as we go through the superintendent contract. So, good morning, Miss Brown. Miss Martinez, can you please provide the proof of publication for today's meeting? >> The notice for the February 5th, 2026 work session was published in the Ocala
Gazette on January 23rd, 2026. Proof of publication has been attached to board docs under proof of publication. >> Wonderful. Well, good morning everyone. Um, for your awareness, we do have a statewide tornado drill at 10:00 a.m. I have an alarm set for 9:59 to remind us.
So when it goes off, uh that will be we're going to go into a brief recess then so that we can do the tornado drill efficiently. Um I want to welcome Dr. Brewer for her administrative briefing for this work session. Good morning. I have quite a few things I want to share
with you today. Um but first I want to just comment on our wonderful public education foundation gayla that took place Saturday the evening. I know all of you probably will have that in your comments but it was just simply beautiful. And then this morning we had an additional surprise at Hillrest
School. Um we had Kate and Ryan Gray with Mackenzie's Moment um surprise the rookie teacher of the year, Miss Stephanie Stevens with a $5,000 check. And so we um they were incredibly moved by um her message and their life story
and so they wanted to contribute. So that was a wonderful surprise to start our day at Hillrest. Um, I want to let you know that the school choice decisions have um been calculated. Friday was our deadline. We have over we had 4,27
applications submitted by 2,364 students. We are still drilling down the data to provide you with more information about the rankings and their first choices. Um, but I do wanted I wanted to give you that number and just remind you that each student could apply
for up to three schools and they rank their applications. So when I have additional information for you, I will share that with you. Do want to let you know as I shared in an email the to address concerns about the resoning and open enrollment at Belleview High School. The school choice team added 30
seats for the Cambridge ACE program and 10 additional seats for the robotics automation and design um commonly called RAD at Belleview. We also have our budget briefings, individual um board briefings taking place tomorrow and
that's going to be led by our finance team by Mr. Rios Welsh. Um and that will just provide you a forecast to the district's financial outlook. Um, but we also have a work session scheduled to cover this topic on April the 16th. And
so that will be an important work session. Um, we also have a booster stadium update provided to you um that will take place during a work session on March the 5th. And we have um three other dates that I want to go ahead and share with you today. We have our
attendance boundary committee meetings. um the attendance boundary committee recommendations provided um to you at our last meeting and now we have our community meetings which is the next portion of that step and that will take place from 6:00 to 7 at Reic Elementary
on February the 18th um at Anthony Elementary on February the 26th and Spar Elementary on March the 4th. Of course, I will send um calendar invites to you all for those meetings. And um and last but not least, we need a
board member to represent the board for our start and stop bell time committee. We did not add that as one of your options during the re reorganization meeting. So I need someone to commit to that. Then the meeting will take place
on February the 17th uh at 4 pm. >> I don't mind doing it. I'm not on really any committees at this point, I don't think, um really overall. So, I don't mind doing it. >> I don't mind doing >> When's it going to meet? >> Yeah. February 17th at 4 PM. >> Sorry, you said that.
>> No, that's okay. >> Yeah. I mean, I I think any one of us would be willing to serve potentially. So, >> I should be able to do it. >> Okay. As long as that's fine with you guys. I know the code of conduct started, too. So, I wanted to make sure that um Reverend Cummings was aware
because I believe Reverend Cummings, you stayed on the code of conduct committee, correct? >> Or did I'm on the code of conduct. switch. Okay. And they Okay. Because Okay. I wanted to make sure because I know that that conversation is coming back up as we get into it. Okay.
>> So, yeah, Miss Thrower's on that code of conduct. And who is for my awareness who is on the student progression plan? Miss Conrad again. Okay. Because those are two that are starting, right? >> I think Miss Martinez Young has the document. Okay. So, um and she can send it to all of us just for awareness with
the update. >> Okay. I'll add you to the calendar invite Dr. James for the bell start committee. >> The code of student conduct has committee's been meeting very regularly and we're moving right along. >> Okay. Good. Awesome. >> Thank you, Miss. Okay, those are all my
comments. >> Yep. Question specifically because just got another email this morning from a family that had chosen Belleview Middle School for Cambridge and their zoned school for high school is not uh
Belleview High School. obviously that continuation of what is happening. While I appreciate the 30 seats and then the 10 for RAD, I I am interested once we have the data drilled down if the board would like to have additional
conversation about it for sure. As we've discussed just briefly about what we haven't discussed it publicly, but we've discussed it offline. Uh Dr. Brewer, when the board was presented with the zoning conversation a year ago and we
had a public hearing in April of 2025 about the zoning for South Marian High School, we were presented with what we believe to be the projected enrollments for each of those high schools. And all of the high schools with the exception
of Forest High School were presented to us at under 90% 90% or under in enrollment potentially. And so, uh, when we got the notification that something changed, something changed after Belleview had their preview night,
uh, that we are now at 100% capacity at Belleview High School. I believe that's an opportunity for the board to have additional conversation because we helped set the zoning to ensure that all of our schools would not be at that level. And so I think it we'll wait
until we see what the school choice applicants look like, but if we have I mean we're we're opening up 40 seats for non or for out of area students to go there. Many of them will be taken up
by siblings and by children of staff members. So, there's going to be some conversation about prioritization of who gets first dibs, I guess. Uh, but I I'm I am interested if the rest of the board is in having additional conversation about what we do about opening up more
seats for those out of area students specifically who've been on a pathway to continue their education at Belleview High School. >> Thank you, Dr. Cable. I agree. I think I want to see where how it all shakes out. Um, Dr. Bird, do you have a timeline for when Mr. erys will do the first round
drop for school choice. >> He's he's doing extra data um analysis today. >> So when would the board be able to get um an understanding of the um theoretical how many students weren't able to be placed and would qualify by
merit. >> Um I'd like to give him the weekend to complete that. So if you don't mind next week, >> early next week. >> Okay. If we have a board meeting next Tuesday, so ahead of ahead of next Tuesday's board meeting, so if we need to have public discourse about it, we
could next Tuesday. Does that sound good to everybody? >> Good. >> Okay. >> Y Thank you. >> Is that it? All right. Well, Dr. Brewer is going to leave at this point because the items for today's agenda are related to board items. Um, we are going to
rotate the items and do the contract first as Miss Brown is here to help dictate for Mr. uh Jeremy Powers, our board attorney. Um, the board has a variety of items, most if not all of which were not uploaded. Um, attorney P
can expand on the reasoning behind that. Um, but board, please make sure you have all of the items. I'm just going to go through them all just to make sure everyone has them. You should have a redline version of the contract. It's the thickest document. It also has comments in the margins. So, that is um
something that Miss Brown and Mr. uh Attorney Powers will reference for your reference, too. When we're looking at the document that is like three pages and it kind of goes through all of the items on the right column there, it's
the two column document. The right column there dictates the part of the contract that it's speaking to. Just to give you reference, there's also a comparable salary and benefits um for some like-siz districts. There is the elected officials um worksheet that
comes from the office of economic and demographic research. And then there's just some extra annotations that um attorney powers did in comparison to our former superintendent Dr. Gullet's contract. So, you should have five items for today's discussion. Attorney Powers
is going to lead us um and my goal is after each item to capture um in addition to I'm sure Miss Brown, but my goal is to capture if we are not all in agreement to capture everyone's opinion on the item so that we can revisit it at
the end. Um so, I'd like to go through each item. if we're not all in agreement, capture our yeses and nos or our opinions and then we'll revisit those items that maybe we're not 100% in agreement with when we get to the end just for the sake of progressing through and not getting stuck. Does that sound
okay to everyone? Yes. All right. Well, I turn it over to attorney powers and after each item, I'll just make sure I annotate how everyone's feeling about it. Okay. All right. Thank you. >> All right. That pretty metacurately summarizes what I was going to go over there. So, um,
>> well, I didn't know he was going to go over it, but perfect. >> Well, there we go. Um, uh, Miss Brown will be here drafting our red lines in real time. Uh, we'll submit those. Uh, it's, if those red lines, then when we're all finished are acceptable, um,
then we'll proceed to place it on a board meeting agenda for approval of the contract. If they're not, then at that point we'll receive counter redlines um so that we can the board can consider those items again. So um this process
may be a a oneanddone or it may be a back and forth process. It just depends upon um you know what the perceived reasonability of our approach is when we go into it. Um, and I will also ask in advance for the
board members permission when we are done with the redline drafts. Um, as is very common when there's uh a draft document from legal, there may be scriveners or non-substantive changes that need to be made. For example, there
may be a section of statute that needs to be quoted or there might be um wording that is uh non it's not of of substance, but it is wording that needs to be fixed. Um so those would be items that I would not want to have to bring back to the board and go through again.
So provided that I communicate those with the board chair, I'd like to have the freedom to edit those for substantive or non I'm sorry non-s substantive or scrim scriveners errors when we're done. So I'll ask the board for that latitude. Um
apart from that uh we can proceed on into the contract. what you have um in front of you has been described, but uh the most important touchstone document and everything else sort of goes back to that is that draft redline agreement
that has been previously uploaded I believe, but if not, we'll make sure that today's document goes on there. Um this is a generalized um view of everything that would be
requested within this contract. Each of the items are broken down then by the sections and we previous went previously went over what the sections are. That page that has the uh red uh
writing on it and has two columns. This should be our working draft as we go through. This is going to be the touchstone that you go back to as we're discussing each one. Um there's some notes located in the draft agreement um to the in the right hand column. So
we'll go in order down here. We can skip around, but we want to pretty much maintain that order so that we can um so that we can make sure that we've caught everything, captured each of these items. Do we have any questions before we begin?
>> Nope. >> Okay. So, um starting off with the very beginning, uh trans transition period was the first item on there. Um in my view, this does not need to be considered further as the transition period was defined as the purpose of the
agreement. Um is trans transition between two different individuals. So, not two individuals here. This is one individual we're dealing with. So transition period is not needed. Um employment terms effective. >> Hold on. I'm sorry. After every item, I
want us to seek agreement or not so that we there's no confusion about how we feel about each item. So regarding the scrap of transition period, is everyone in agreement with the recommendation there? I see a yes from Miss Thor. Yes, Reverend Cummings. Okay. Thank you.
The second section as to employment terms is uh the effective date and the term. So the effective date is going to be whenever we complete this. Um but the actual term we discussed that it could be any term from a single year, two
year, three year up four year up to five years. Of course an elected official is four years. Uh typically ours in the past and many districts are at three years. Um the board had expressed some um tendency to consider at least a
two-year uh agreement and that is now something that is in your court to discuss and decide. >> Great. We open it up to the board. Anyone want to start? Uh board member, >> just uh to make sure that we're completely accurate. Um how many months
has Dr. have been with us as of >> since April 28. >> Yeah. Come as of April. It will be a year. >> As of April, it'll be a year. Okay. Thank you. >> April 29th, 2025 per her interim
employment agreement. >> So, I just have a perspective I'd like to share. And honestly, when I was talking with Attorney Powers yesterday, I mathed wrong. My math wasn't mathing. So when I was elected in 2022 with board member Conrad, we came in and
immediately were asked to renew the superintendent's contract which I um we you guys essentially we had to do an evaluation and then we were into that renewal. And speaking for myself, I felt very uncomfortable with that task being that I didn't have
the proper understanding of what she did, how she did it. Um, and it really it put me as a board member in a compromised position. And so I would not seek to do that for someone else if I if we can work around it personally. With that being said, a two-year um agreement
or four-year agreement at this point, an even agreement, year agreement, I think would be the agreement that would put um an incoming board member, which we know we'll at least have one with board member thrower seat um in a in a
positive position because a um a three-year agreement would mean that in two and a half years from now, We're going to start talking about it and two and a half years from now will be right after not my my my um
air reverend coming in board member thrower seat is done but when the other two seats are open and so essentially essentially like in November right after they're sworn in they would have to start discussing the renewal and I just feel like that puts them in a
compromised position. So my recommendation would be an evenyeared term to avoid the election cycle. That's just my recommendation based on how I lived the experience. Board member Campbell. >> Thank you. So, that's exactly my reasoning for the two-year agreement
because if we did a two-year agreement, all of the conversation would be happening essentially in the beginning of 2028 and the new board members or you know, if if you know, it doesn't necessarily have to be new board members
sitting here in 2028, but uh whenever that happens, then essentially it would already be taken care of and there'd be two full complete years before the next board changeover. Um that absolutely would be happening. So um anyway, so that I think a two-year agreement
because of the flux that we're in right now a bit with election season upon us as well as term limits and what that looks like. Um I personally think a two-year agreement makes the most sense. >> And just for transparency, we're going
to start talking about that agreement in 18 months because we have to backwards plan into it. So it's really more like 18 months from now. So, it's going to be the fall of 27 that we discuss, but the people who are elected in the fall of 26 will have been here for a year. So, that's that's why I look at it that way.
>> Um, consider that again though, uh, at the end of that two-year period, if you renew, then in order to make that a permanent process, it needs to then be another two-year agreement or a four-year agreement >> to avoid the election cycle. Yes. But that's that's a decision a different
board can make because at some I mean we know at least one board member will not be here when we have those discussions in two years. Board member Thorer. >> Thank you. And uh for the reasons we've been discussing and also that's why I wanted to confirm the amount of time
that Dr. Brewer has been with us already which you know as we continue to work through this process is getting closer and closer to a year already. So essentially, if we go with the two-year contract, it'll really be a three-year contract that that we've completed, you
know, in in my opinion. And um the other uh prep fall I want to avoid. While there it is in our comment box, remember it only takes three board members to remove the superintendent at any time. To me, that's the nuclear option. And I
believe that that is incredibly disruptive and negative to our whole school community and that if we can avoid that at all costs. Um I would much rather see a scenario for whatever reasons you know as the two-year begins
to wind up that it is more of an amicle more of a more of an amicable parting that the contract language kind of sets it up to be. So, um, those are my thoughts. >> Okay. So, I hear two years from board
member, um, I I see a two from Reverend Cummings as well. All right. Did you have anything to add, Reverend Cummings? >> No, I think I've already stated that I think the two-year would be the better. >> Okay. >> It lines up where we need to be. >> And board member Conrad. >> All right. So, I hear all five of us in agreement on a two-year term for the
initial contract. >> Yes. The only other thing to discuss there because her interim agreement, I understand that it would have been we had a transition built in there if there was a different person. her interim agreement um concludes on April 29th. I
I think you know certainly we may get this done beforehand, but if we for a clean transition from one agreement to the next if her start date as the permanent superintendent was April 28th. We have a board meeting that evening and we could just make it clean and it goes literally from one agreement to the
next. And so she completes the amount of money that she was receiving on this contract and she gets the new amount starting the next day. >> I'm in agreement. fun with me. >> Seems very smooth. >> Yeah. >> Okay. My only hesitation is I feel like
um the lift has been pretty heavy and especially when Dr. Gullet was still here and and Dr. Brewer was doing a lot of during that transition. Um rightfully so. That's what we asked of her. Um but I I I think it would be appropriate for her to start getting compensated
accordingly for the job that she's doing and waiting if if we can get this done. Let's presume it all goes well today sometime in March. I mean that is a month difference. >> So if we can have open discussion for just a moment that that was actually something I wrote at the top of my uh
notes here because article eight of her existing agreement does reference an evaluation. So we haven't talked at all about if there would be an evaluation on the interim superintendent. Perhaps it's just because we're hiring her. So that makes the evaluation null and void. But it was a part of the agreement. And so
that's where uh we essentially could offer an evaluation and if we built in some kind of mechanism where we could offer a bonus or something like that. We don't really have that currently spelled out, but I I think that's something that we could discuss in this next two-month period if
we wanted to do that, but I I still think that it's cleaner if we go from one agreement to the next. completely respect the thought of ensuring that she does get compensated, but she was going to get compensated for what she's doing at the amount that we agreed to. So,
>> correct. All right. Well, do I hear a majority of the board okay with the April 28th board meeting? Uh, yes, Miss >> You, if you want to just address them directly, >> I need >> That's fine. One second. So, they can have counsel.
And this is why you have a parallegal and an attorney so they can consult. Yeah. It it's just that the the first agreement as soon as it goes to the board uh the first agreement dies. I mean as soon as and and that means at
that point it has to be an immediate pickup of the second agreement. >> I think what Dr. what I hear um Dr. Campbell saying is she would like for the new contract to make it on April 28th which we already have a board meeting for >> and so then the seamless transition
would occur because the contract on that night would then move into the new date. you just move >> so there wouldn't be any overlap. >> And I and I do believe that any attempt uh any any other compensation terms or anything else like that that's going to be have
some something that uh I'd reach out to uh Miss Grant and >> and discuss with her, but >> um >> it's outside of the contract. >> That's outside of the contract and it's something completely separate that I'm gonna have to >> Okay. >> try to work. >> Well, what I hear is the majority of the board in agreement on an April 28th
contract date. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Not 828, 428. >> Uh, next um compensation and benefits. Um, specifically as to salary. Now, one of the documents that I gave you is just
uh the elected officials salary. Um currently um the amount that uh you you have that table three from the office of economic and demographic research essentially showing that an elected superintendent in Marian right now would
be allotted $217,448. We've also discussed the fact that um the amount that can be spent must be $225,000 or less because of uh that's all we can use for state funds. However, um
districts can spend more. The more comes out of our general fund. Um, I want the board to consider also that any amount that you set very rapidly with just the
annual cola and items like that are going to be probably a 10%, you know, 5% or more increase. So, you're very likely if you set it at $210,000 to hit close to your limit within that
first year and then everything beyond that is going to come from general funds, which is certainly okay. You have the ability to do that. Certain districts, especially larger districts with, you know, who are trying to attract people, they have much higher much higher amounts that they pay
overall. Um, we've talked about this a little bit in our previous meeting. So, the board is unrestricted in what the board can choose here. Um, but that's the opportunity for board discussion to make
those decisions as to what is appropriate. >> All right. Thank you, Attorney Powers. Does anyone want to start with a recommendation on the compensation? >> I I don't mind. I think 215 is a great place to start. It's essentially right where the elected salary is. Um and then
obviously acknowledging that there will be in salary increases annually based on the administrative raises we offer. Um which are not amazing but they do exist in addition to the certification and other benefits that we'll get into
later. That's where I would offer we start. Uh board member Campbell. >> Sure. So, my starting point was actually a little different. I I was thinking about a 205 start with I liked the lake approach where they had two
opportunities for additional salary increases or I guess bonuses. So, if we started at the 205 and we had two $10,000 opportunities, that would get us to the 225. Uh the other thing that we've already discussed a bit uh that um
elected superintendents also have a special qualification salary that they can get I think additional there there's some kind of something that happens annually. I remember when I was serving as chair and Miss Boston Ellis was in the CFO role.
she came to me and asked about well electeds are getting this and so I noticed that that was also built into the lake contract like there's some kind of built-in extra that that goes to elected superintendents. I don't know if it's because of the certifications they receive or some kind of arrangement like
that. So I I saw that also built into lakes a bit. I think that's open for conversation. Uh I I do like the idea though of having builtin job performance bonus as well as student
performance bonus. And if we can start low enough that both of those bonuses would be able to still stay within that 225 threshold. Also understanding that if we have it built in that the superintendent does get those two to 3%
increases we traditionally give to all administrators. I mean, you know, 3% of $200,000 quickly gets I mean, that's, you know, $6,000. So, it's like it quickly adds up when you start getting those year-over-year. So, we're we're going to cost ourselves out of that 225
for sure. There's going to be some money that's going to have to hit the general fund. I just would prefer it not hitting it in our first year if we can help it. >> Yes, I I agree with that. And I think um Dr. Gullet started I think at 210 is
what our document says. Um, so that's I mean essentially with inflation from five years ago, 215 is probably below where we started Dr. Gullet. So that's just kind of my perspective on it. But I would like to see a I would love to see if we get an A school district. I would
love to I think it's I think that would be tremendous to have some level of a um bonus if we get an A district personally. But I think let's stay focused on salary and then we can talk about benefits. So, um, any other board member have thoughts on we have a 205
and a 215 on the table? >> My thought was definitely below the the threshold of where we were uh at on the elected superintendent. I was in the mindset of the 205 to 210 range. >> Okay.
>> Thank member. I understand how challenging being a superintendent is these days and I temper that with the reality that all five of us sitting up
here know um the challenges that we're going to be facing moving forward uh with our budget just like we've been doing. Um, you know, the CO funds are gone, Esers's run out. Uh, anything we can do to avoid
touching general funds until we have to. You know, someone might say, well, that's only $6,000 and, you know, have a budget of almost a billion. You know, that's a blip on the radar. Well, we get requests for a lot of blip on the radar and and it all adds up. So, in respect
to Dr. Brewer, I want to make it very clear that my um support of the 205 is related to nothing more than the reality of our budget forecasting
and also building in room because I love the idea of rewarding performance, you know, and the metrics that we have to live by make it pretty easy to do that, you know, it's it's and very definitive. So, that's where I am with this. I'm I'm
with the 205 and then if we become an a district or however we decide to frame that, it's going to be a money saver. >> Thank you. Uh let's let board member Conrad talk first if that's okay. >> Just share her thought. >> Okay. Board member Conrad.
>> Sure. Um thank you, Chair. Uh I was leaning into the 217 um that an elected official where that elected official would have start. It sounds um like the board is leaning a little more conservatively. Uh 210 sounds good to
me. Um I also I agree with the um performance pay. I think that's a great idea uh on both pieces for um for Dr. Brewer. Uh
>> I think that's it. >> Okay. Attorney Powers. >> Yeah. on page five of the uh of the draft contract that you had there. You'll note that we had originally redlinined out the performance pay incentive and that was because there
were questions about whether that was legally permissible, though some districts have it. Um some districts do it, but we had some questions about it. Um we've done some research. It is permissible. So that might be something
to consider in going here. It sounds like the board is leaning toward um you know the performance pay incentive and that is something that could serve both purposes that the board is talking about. specifically $10,000 annual bonus
starting with the or whatever annual bonus that the the board chooses um for achieving and maintaining an A rating um and a separate $2,500 annual bonus for achieving a district graduation rate um
as as set. So those are other items that can add through performance to that number that you set as a base. >> Okay. And and is that item is that I'm sorry is that number dictated on our three-page two column handout?
>> Um it is it's the let's see >> it's page yeah page two and it's about halfway down between administrative authority and exclusive employment. >> Okay, that's what I thought. Yes, because the the one that's number four is actually just the just the standard raise. So but to stay focused let's stay
focused on base salary for now. So, um, I've heard three people offer 205, three pe three people offer 210. Reverend Cummings, you've offered kind of one or the other. So, we'll leave it to you. Where would you >> 205? Okay. So, it looks like the majority of the board has landed with
$25,000 as the base salary. >> Okay. Um the next several on here are all going to be ones that with with minor adjustment are the same that we do for other employees.
Um that's performance salary adjustment. This is when non-represented folks get a certain percentage amount uh of their salary um as a raise. vacation, sick leave, um medical benefits. Um we did
make an an adjustment just based on what's legal. I think it was from 150 to 140 days. Was that adjustment we made? >> We made it to match, >> right? To match 20 weeks. Um otherwise, all of those policies in the remainder
of um page one here are all ones that we already do for other Right. Except for short ter shortterm. No, except for term life insurance policy. Right. >> So if it's possible attorney powers, I would like to just go item by item and
just let's make sure everyone is in agreement so there's no confusion about how anyone feels. So the performance salary adjustment board that's just essentially saying if we give a two and a half% raise to administrators that she's available to receive that. Is that something that the board feels comfortable with? >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> That's been the standard. >> Okay. So that's five board members in agreement. vacation and sick leave as per law and consistent with what other employees receive. >> Yep. >> Yes. Okay. Obviously, Dr. Burr is bringing in a lot of um time acred since
she's been with the district a long time. So, but we'd owe her that if she left the district at any point. So, everyone's in agreement with this. >> All right. Thank you. Medical benefits. >> Yeah. Everyone in agreement with medical benefits
>> that it's the same as every other. >> Yep. If in Yes. >> So, um if is there anything you have some notation here, Attorney Powers? Is there anything you want to expand on on medical benefits? >> Nothing more. >> Okay, we good then. Board, it's the 20
essentially the 20we severance pay period >> we're responsible for. >> Right. Right. and other employees don't receive that as a paid option, but only have one. >> Correct. But that would be part of the severance package.
>> Okay. >> Just looking for everyone to be in agreement. We're good. >> You're on which one? >> We're on medical benefits. >> Okay. Yeah, it's the same. >> I just want to make sure I feel confident with everyone's. Yes. >> And and 20 weeks is the red line. part
of the liquidated damages agreement. >> Liquidated damages agreement just says this is what we're offering overall. That's the maximum term we can offer it for. So that that's what we put. I think there was the only red line we made was
I think the request was for 150 days and 140 is what we have to do. >> Okay. Yeah. 20 weeks is fine. >> All right. I hear us all in agreement on that item. Short-term disability policy. It's not provided as a paid benefit to other employees, but is consistent with
Dr. Gullet's agreement previously? >> Personally, no. For me, no. Um, we want to for me, I want to see that um the superintendent is treated just as as a we know they're the top of the the uh district. However, if this is not a
benefit that we are affording to all of our other staff and they're doing they're doing the heavy lift as well, I don't think that we should be doing this. >> Something if it's okay for me to point out as well. Again, this is leading back
to our general fund. Um the short-term disability policy, should we continue to offer that would come from non-state appropriated funds. So to me that's translated to it would come out of the general fund. Is that correct? >> Yes.
>> Okay. And that is that continues to be a a concern um for me. And while our previous and I will also offer first appointed superintendent received that as we continue to learn and grow through
this process and also acknowledge our current reality um in our budget challenges as a school board member. Uh I don't think it's wise to offer that at this time. It hurts my heart
not to offer it because again I understand the challenges of being a superintendent in public education these days. >> Right. Thank you. >> Let me ask this question too. Short-term disability for other staff. They can get short-term disability but it's at their
expense. Correct. >> Correct. Right. >> I think it should on the cafeteria plan. >> Yeah. I think it it should be the same. >> Right. >> Okay. Board member Conrad, do you have a thought on short-term disability? >> Um, my thoughts align with Miss Thrower. Um,
really identically, it does um it does hurt my heart, Miss Thrower. You said it well. Um, but I I think it is wise for us to um wait. It's one It is also I want to share it's another reason I'm glad we we
agreed to revisit this in two years. It gives us the opportunity, >> right? um to look at this again hopefully um a budget that's not so tight. So, >> right, board member Gamble, >> I I agree and like has already been said
that all employees have the opportunity to purchase at their own expense short-term and long-term disability. And I mean, those are benefits that we have. And so, I rather than the district pay for that, I I would like to afford her the opportunity to do that should she
should she so choose. Wow, that was tough. >> All right. Okay. So, we are going to redline out the short-term disability policy. as I hear we are in agreement on that. Um, moving on to term life insurance.
Term life insurance is E on bottom of page three. I have a I I have a question on this and we're not going to have the answer on it today. I'm just going to tell you. I'm curious to know if membership in the Florida Association of District School Superintendent
gives any superintendent an automatic life insurance policy. You all probably are aware, but members of FSBA automatically get a $75,000 life insurance policy just because you're a member of FSBA. So, I would be curious to know if there's an additional benefit maybe in FADS, which we won't have that
answer today. I I understand that. But, while we're considering how much it costs us to do certain things, if just the benefit of being a member affords any kind of life insurance, that's a question I'd like answered. I just thought of it just now. I'm sorry I didn't think of it sooner. Yeah,
>> Miss Maran, is that something you could ask a few questions on? Um, I believe Dr. Brewer may even have access to finding out that information. >> Okay, thank you. If she gets that information before we're done today, she'll bring it back to us. Um, board member Thor, >> I would also offer that this is similar
to the short-term disability. Um, if I'm not mistaken, and I know Miss Morant will correct me if I'm wrong, but every employee gets uh term life insurance based on their salary. I think >> it's one and a half times salary.
>> There it is. So, it's not like we're being cold and saying no life insurance for you. I would offer that we provide the life insurance that's commensurate with >> staff. >> Yeah. And so the for the board's awareness, the red the red note that I have there on on the page one
>> is just the reminder that we're gonna have to do the math as to what one half times salary works out. >> Well, and that's essentially what this is dictating. It's not an extra policy, but it's dictating that the term life policy would follow what the board is already doing for all employees and the amount is just
>> high because the pay is high, >> right? So, so we will address the amount 205 if you don't mind doing Can we do the quick math? It's one and a half >> 307.5 >> 307 um and 30 37,500. So that would be the item the number
that's put in where 315 is for >> I'm sorry 307 even. >> Oh 307 even. That would Yes. >> Not that much of a difference. >> Correct. So the amount in there would be 307,000. Is everyone in agreement with that? >> That is self-pay. >> I'm sorry. self pay.
>> No, >> just that's employee pay. >> That That's >> Well, that's what the district covers, but they can go higher if they want to, >> right? Correct. >> Right. If they go higher, self-pay. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we're all good there. >> Yes.
>> 3075. Okay. >> All right. So, we're all good. In agreement. All right. Moving on to the retirement system. It's the top of page four, number uh F.
So, this was inserted in the addendum at Dr. Gullet's agreement. However, senior management service class is the correct class for this position. So, it's being presented as senior management class, which is the correct class for the superintendent. Does anyone have an opinion on changing what
has been presented? Okay. I see a >> It is really really high. Um I mean it is >> that Yeah. statutoily that's what that's what >> right. It is what it is. >> That'll do. So >> right. All right. >> It is what it is. It is. >> So it is what it is. I hear five. It is what it is. Is that correct?
>> It makes us feel a little better about the short-term disability in life. >> Correct. >> Um additional retirement plan which means removal. Um, so let's go to G. Well, it's it's been redlined, so it's it's not really G anymore because in the
contract has been redlined. So in Dr. Glet's initial contract, it was at um there was increases the first contract and then it was a fixed rate after that. Um there has been attorney Powers, go ahead. So this is entirely optional and it's at the it's at the expense of the
district. Um some districts do it, some do not. Um I have uh included a list there just of a few that have different uh contribution packages that they do for a separate additional there's FRS then there's FRS senior
management class and then this would be an additional annuity payment to go into retirement. beyond that. So >> I Yes. And I I think that sums it up pretty well. So board, how do we feel about an additional retirement plan? Board member Thrower.
>> Again, I will say uh in my opinion, it's not prudent for the board to agree to that right now. >> Okay. Reverend Cummings, >> if if our staff are not afforded the same thing, I cannot say the superintendent getting something
different. >> Understood. board member Conrad. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. No, >> agreed. So that is five agreement and striking the item cell phone and data plan. It's consistent with Dr. Glet's agreement. It
is um item G on page four. This is consistent with a lot of senior leadership in the district having a cell phone to be able to communicate for sunshine purposes. Is everyone in agreement? >> Certainly seems to be put to good use. >> Yes. >> All right. So we have five in agreement
on the cell phone plan. Let's move on to the vehicle expense. Vehicle expense is at the bottom of page four. It's item H. This is consistent with Dr. Gullet's agreement and board. Just for your note, you do have a work a worksheet from attorney powers which
indicates that um the out of district um or sorry the um re we have reimbursed from May to December $1,800 which is an average of 225 a month in travel expenses um in county. Those are incounty travel
expenses. So, how do we feel about the um $500 a month uh car allowance? >> Board member Thrower. >> I just think it makes sense because it's also a timesaver, you know, not having
to do the travel logs and and all of that. It's just a flat allowance that when you calculate it out, it we probably end up coming out ahead. I hate continuing to see and shall be paid from non-state appropriated funds if we're required to have a superintendent. To
me, there should be a little bigger allocation for to cover some of these things, but that can be a advocacy conversation for another day. >> Yes. And honestly, we we could provide a vehicle to her as well, but um I think depending on where the individual lives
depends on how functional having a vehicle since we do not let people transport their vehicle home, right? Um, it makes it it makes it if for instance, if you live on the west side of town and you're going to Westport in the morning, you're not going to drive to the closest school east to get a vehicle to then
drive west. And if you're just going in one direction every day, it makes a little more sense, but the superintendent goes in every direction every day. So, um, I agree with you, board member Thrower. Anyone else have thoughts on the $500? >> This is good. Okay, Conrad,
>> we can I really um after Dr. Gollet's contract, I really felt strongly, you know, um we were left with nothing. You know, if we purchased a vehicle, we have something. If if Dr. Brewer chose to leave, we would have something. Um but I
had in-depth conversation with Attorney Powers and um and he shared the numbers here. financially responsible um for for us to go this way. >> All right, Dr. Campbell, >> I agree with 500 a month. When you think of just incounty travel at almost $250 a
month that we've already spent, we that was without us going to Tallahassee, which is or trips that are we're taking a lot more frequently during session. So, it just so happened in the first six months she didn't do that. Um so, I I think 500 a month would would make sense
for sure. >> Yes. in our budget briefings that we will have tomorrow and then in the expanded conversation. I know that one of the things that Mr. Rios Walsh is going to touch on is that across the entire district, travel expenses are one of our biggest things that need to get
trimmed for going to conferences, hotels, fees across all areas. Um and so that will be something that comes up um in the spirit of talking about things that are inflated and uncomfortable. Yes. So 500 vehicle expense. We're all
in agreement. All right. Okay. I hear 500. All five of us. Uh the bond it's consistent with Dr. Glut's agreement and required by law. So can we do an it is what it is for this? >> It is what it is. >> Did you skip one? >> Um nope. Didn't skip anything.
>> Certification incentive. >> Uh I'm just going by the worksheet. So I apologize. >> Getting at page two. >> On page two number. >> Okay. That's not on your worksheet. >> Okay. I think Eric and I are going by the contract. >> Okay, that's fine. I can do that. I'm sorry. Certification incentive.
>> This is our This is our morning campus. Attention Bridgeway campus. We are conducting a tornado drill. Again, this is a drill. The National Weather Service has issued a tornado watch. Any student or staff
that is outside, please move indoors to your assigned area. At this time, >> we'll take a recess at 9:53. All right, we are going to come back from recess at 10:06 a.m. Thank you for allowing that 10 minute or so break so
we could do our annual tornado drill. Um, we were discussing bond and I believe we said it is what it is and so, um, there was not much we could do about that board. We're all in agreement on that, right? Okay. So, if we go to extension of contract, extension of contract actually goes back to the very
beginning board in um in um item 1A. So, on or before August 31st, 2028 during the term of the contract, the board can decide whether to extend. Um there's no red lines recommended by our attorney. So, board, do you have any
other recommendations? Sorry, I'm I was getting to the right spot. So, >> it's on page one. It's actually It goes back to >> Oh, sorry. Yes. And I heard you say that, chair. I just was >> Yep. So, back to page one at the bottom and then up to the top of page two is the renewal.
So, it's the extension of the contract. >> Um I'm I'm fine with a a one-year renewal that automatically renews. However, I did make a note, and I'm not sure how we word this in there, um, is that the superintendent be
required to notify the board 120 days prior to that renewal date. Something, >> are we seeing anything about a one-year renewal? Okay. >> It's on the top of page two. >> Yes. >> Item 1 A
>> where the board will >> Right. in if if the board takes no action. Right. >> Right. >> Um >> that's >> and this this will make it incumbent on the board chair to make sure that we're we're following that date that we're that someone is is has their eyes on
that date because if it if it doesn't, then you end up with a one renewal position where you may not want it. Well, and that's where I was, is there a way that we can put some wording in there that it actually puts the responsibility on the superintendent to notify the board because 120 days prior
to potentially a March or April date is going to be shortly after a person just becomes chair. That's going to be a really big lift if they're not even aware and not staying on top of it. So, >> and also an election year. >> Yes.
>> Correct. We do a one-year extension. we're going to defeat the purpose, right, >> of being on a two or a four-year cycle. >> True. >> Yeah. I mean, I I would be in of the opinion that we should just stay on top of the contract renewal and and offer a
renewal or not timely, which is what we have established we want to do so that we eliminate the the election cycle. >> It also gave I'm sorry, >> that's okay. >> It it also gave the opportunity before though. I I think that if we do put some
of the responsibility on the superintendent to come to us in Dr. Gullet's renewal year and again our only contract we've ever done before for so this is only the second time we've ever done an appointed superintendent contract but she came to us at at her renewal period and had changes she
wanted to make. So that's where I think that somehow that notification needs to come from the superintendent more so than the board chair who might have just been put in that seat. >> I don't disagree. So, is there a way we could add um some some language about within 120 days of renewal, the
superintendent shall present um adjustment to terms if so desired, blah blah blah. Legal legal legal. >> Yeah. Communicate with the board chair, you know, whatever. There needs to just be or you know, in in a public meeting, I don't even know. Just something needs to >> I understand the assignment. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. Member Thor, did you have anything to Okay, Reverend Cummings. >> Okay. And remember Conrad, you're good. Okay. Thank you. >> Just thinking in 2023 I was chair and this was a heavy lift to to do the whole renewal and everything. So like I don't
I don't want that to be on somebody who might just be in that seat. So welcome. Thank you for >> all right let's go to dismissal of discharge which is um bottom of page five board. If you're following along in the contract this is consistent with Dr.
gullet in its standard terms for cause. So these are all the standard um standard termination clauses that we have historically had. Are there I know we may have some things to discuss about supermajority and majority but to stay focused on just
dismissal or discharge. >> You're good with dismissal and discharge. Dr. Campbell. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Board member Conrad, >> I I just had a question which we don't have to we don't have to iron out now,
but for M um in that section, how is that determined? >> It would generally be by a DOA hearing um department division of administrative hearings. They would be sort of the
judge of that. But the language um of if you're speaking of the language under dismissal and discharge each of those lettered sections those are the terms used in statute for misfeasants or malfeasants by public official. Um and
so those are um and also an administrative code. So >> okay you good board member Conrad. All right that's five in agreement on that section. Termination of contract um is at the bottom of page six into the top
of page seven board. The big thing to discuss here is the necessity for a supermajority or a majority vote. Uh I'm personally a fan of maintaining our simple majority which is a 3-2 for member. I see you leaning forward. >> I'm
okay. Reverend Cummings. >> Sorry. >> I'm sorry. I'm 32. Um I feel 32 puts them in. 32 take them out. Absolutely. >> Board member Thor, >> the way that uh board member Cummings
just presented it very simple, 32 in, 32 out, I want to get behind that. Um, but this is huge. When we take out a superintendent, I think the board needs to be as united as possible for that to occur. Um, this
won't affect me obviously because again community I am not running again. I made sure that I said that when I was a change motivations change and if you're thinking about taking out a superintendent. My advice would be to be
pretty much united on that decision. >> All right. Uh, board member Conrad or Campbell thoughts or perspectives? >> Um, I'm more in line with the supermajority. It sounds like kind of Miss Throw was leaning that way, too. Just that um
again, I'm I'm not thinking about this board, but I'm thinking about future boards, which you know, they they have the opportunity to review the the contract also. Um so anyway, I I'm I'm line aligned with the supermajority. >> All right. Uh Dr. Campbell, >> I'm aligned with supermajority just
because we saw the wave of issues that occurred a couple of years ago shortly after a board flip might occur in an election cycle. And so it really benefits the district for stability
purposes to keep it at supermajority as is in this agreement. Simple majority. I I respect and appreciate the idea. It takes 32 to get in and 32 to get out, but we have plenty of ways to do it with cause. And when you're talking without
cause, it becomes oftenimes more like a personality conflict. And I think that that requires the majority of the super majority of the board to really make that change. >> Reverend Cummings. Oh, sorry. I just wanted to go back to Reverend Cummings if he had any future thoughts, further
thoughts on it. >> I'mware. >> Okay. it doesn't change. Um I think um every board member has a responsibility to do their due diligence when you're going to terminate someone period with a
with cause or without cause. And so um me personally, if it's without cause, it's a personality. It's more it's more of an issue between me and that person than more than that they are necessarily
doing something with cause. we we already know how to get rid of them. But that other stuff to me, that's when you you're someone's either trying to uh dictate to the person or trying to lead the person from the board. I just,
you know, I'm still at 3-2. I came in saying it was 3-2, it was going to be 3-2. >> Okay. >> I respect what the board does. >> Well, and and um it sounds like the majority of the board is interested in a super majority. Um, so we will note that and we can come back to this if anyone wants to revisit it, but it does sound
like the majority of the board are for a supermajority. Any further thoughts on that? >> Sure. The only other thing that's in it because currently the contract as the redline version does have supermajority written in it, but the red line part of it says the medical benefits through the
20we severance period. So I I think we've already discussed that. I just want to make sure that uh >> and that's the it's required. I believe that's our what we've already discussed. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> I was just looking at all the different red lines in that one section just to make sure we covered everything. The paragraph it's a good option. Okay. All
right. That's all I wanted. Thank you. >> And then looking at termination because of death. There's no changes there. It's the same as Dr. Gullet. Any any recommendations other than what we see presented? Board. >> No. >> Are we good?
>> Pretty final. >> Okay. No pun intended. You good, Reverend Cummings on termination because of death. >> I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. Okay, >> that's fine. >> All right,
>> they already gone. >> Uh, I heard from Dr. Campbell, board member Conrad, are you good on that section? Okay, sounds like we're all five in agreement on that section. Termination by superintendent for notice. So, um, this is when the superintendent terminates the agreement, providing notice for 120 days. This is
the same as Dr. Gold's agreement and what we did receive when she put in her resignation. Are there any thoughts on this board? Board member Thor, >> I agree. >> Okay. >> Agree. >> Agreed.
>> All right. Sounds like we're five in agreement on the termination by superintendent going into um medical examination. which um it was removed from Dr. Gullet's agreement. And Terry, remind me
where I'm going to find medical examination because it's not in order. >> That was just a >> Oh, >> okay. So, we are not going to find medical examination within this agreement. >> Okay.
>> Understood. So, for the record, Miss Brown shared that it had been in Dr. gods, but it was removed and it is not in this agreement. Board, are you in agreement that a medical examination is not required for this contract? >> Do you? >> Yes. >> Yes, we're all in agreement on that,
Reverend Cummings. >> Okay, we're five yeses. And with that, the mental capacity examination um all the way through memberships is the same as Dr. Gullet. So, we're just going to go one by one real quick, board, and just give me a headshake or a nod, but it it's all incredibly similar language
we've already experienced. Mental capacity examination. There are no changes from legal. >> I mean, I I actually put like why do we even need this here? That's I that was my question about mental capabilities.
>> Um maybe if they lost their mind >> and we would seek to make sure they have in fact lost their mind. Okay. >> Say this is members >> historically >> felt it was important. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Yes. >> And I think it is >> historical context may I agree with the supermajority in this one. >> Yes. >> That we need. >> All right. So there were five in agreement on keeping the mental capacity examination. >> I think you should be mentally fit for
the job. >> Yes. And it's of course only required if four out of five board members think it is required. I mean you don't have to go to the psychiatrist to get the job. You just might have to go while you while you've gotten the job. >> Okay. >> U the superintendent's uh declaration or
fit for duty. Are we all in agreement there? There are no changes from legal. >> I see a yes from Reverend Cummings. Board member Conrad. >> Yes. Okay. Annual evaluation terms as
required by statute. Um this is an initial evaluation on or before June 1st. To Dr. Campbell's point from earlier, it is a part of the interim contract. Um I know that we have all sought a desire to update the
evaluation based on the um new strategic plan. So my hope would be that we finish up the contract and then we use the strategic plan to frame out adjust change the evaluation tool and then complete this first evaluation before
June 1st 2026. >> That seems logical. >> Is is the strategic plan will we have the strategic plan in place by that time? >> That's my understanding. >> Okay. If for whatever reason we don't, then I would say we use the same tool we have now, which is the and and I I could
even offer we use the same tool we have now because it's based on the strategic plan that's been in use all year. So I think we can hash that out and and how we go about that. >> So my my question about this date, especially dependent on when the actual contract start date is. So I think that
the evaluation period that we had built in under the previous superintendent contract was kind of in tandem with when her start date was. So it was kind of close. My question and I wrote this in two different places about an annual evaluation period is
I would see that that evaluation would be best served when data is available >> after school grade >> after school grade. And so that's later than June. uh because especially if we do build in performance evaluation
bonuses then we need to be able to have all the data possible. >> So how do we feel about changing the date to August 1 >> or even September 1st? >> How about we say prior to the um within 30 days after the release of school grade? Why don't because sometimes we
know the state >> right >> is a is a little delayed. So, we would hate to put something in here that has a performance metric that then we can't follow through on. So, why don't we just say um within a time 60 days, whatever time frame of the release of district
grades. Board member Thor, >> my suggestion would be to go for for a longer period of time 60 days versus 30 or 45 just to give us that cushion. >> Yeah. >> And so that we stay in compliance. And I'm in a 100% a thousand% agreement with
waiting until school grades come out. I agree. >> So then how do we feel about 60 days following the release of school and district rates? >> Okay. >> Graduation rate. When does that come? >> Yeah. When does graduation that lags? I know. >> Well, grad rate isn't released until
like December. I mean, we just received the grad rate official. But that grad rate bonus can come if we were to do that separate from the school grade bonus. >> Sure. It could be a part of the evaluation that cont you know that this parting >> sure we write that into
>> it's gonna be NA at the time right >> um but it will be revisited when graduation rate >> right >> is released >> okay so then just to confirm board shall be initially evaluated um on or before or within 60 days of the release of
district and school grades and then honor and then within 60 days of the release of district or school grades going forward. >> Is that everyone good with that? >> Yes. Yes. I know it leaves the date ambiguous, but it still is challenging
because the state can choose whenever they want to release that information and if the evaluation and it is somewhat contingent on student performance. We we have to see that. >> Absolutely. And whether we can like it or not, we are kind of um required to
use the state metrics for our our our evaluation. board member Thor >> in the spirit of this conversation and thank you for bringing it back around because uh we began to talk a little about evaluation then we moved on from it. So I feel like what I'm hearing is
is that Dr. Brewer's first evaluation will occur after the release of of school grades and and within 60 days of release of graduation rates. I would offer that the fact that we're discussing giving her a contract uh
pretty much is its own evaluation and if we were to evaluate her, it would only be fair to evaluate her on our current strategic plan which she has worked under as a superintendent as an employee for the last four years. >> Yes. And honestly, I mean, I would make the offer that we just um that this is
is the evaluation that's offering and we just scrap doing an evaluation in April when we're going to do one again probably in about August. That would just be my recommendation. I don't >> um Well, we can just land on that now if everyone has an opinion. >> I just wanted us to get on a position that we landed on where we had consensus.
>> Reverend Cummings, how do you feel about scraping the evaluation from the interim um the requirement? We won't follow through with that requirement from the interim contract. Great. >> Okay. >> So, we'll just notate that. Um and then, um we are all in agreement that we'll add within 60 days of the release of
school and district grades for the annual evaluation term. I'm going to add to that or as soon thereafter as maybe practicable >> because if you end up with a scheduling problem where the board meeting falls uh the first one we're able to get to falls a
day after it's on s day 61 then you're out of the terms of compliance. You know >> it is practical. I love that. Yes. >> All right. Um goals. There are no red lines here. It is the same as Dr. Gullet's. This is obviously essentially the
strategic plan. It's just kind of vague, but the the strategic plan outlines the goals of the district. Are there any thoughts on this section related to goals? >> Okay, we're all good here. >> By September one, it's just Yep. Okay.
I think this is an interesting paragraph because our strategic plan would outline our goals. >> Yes. >> And those end up coming to us and re being reviewed on a cycle, you know, on a routine of work sessions. So by
September 1st, is this really necessary is what I'm thinking. By September 1st, features will propose goals and performance objectives to be achieved or worked toward by the superintendent and her staff. Well, that's the strategic plan. >> Um, I mean, it probably would be easier
to just say annually instead of a date because you could you could say, well, if the September 1st is the end date, then the entire year prior, she did she did give us the updates by September 1st. If your vantage point is September 1st is the is the start, then yes, she's
me she's missing the mark because it's you do you know what I'm trying to say? Do we review strategic plan information on at least a quarterly basis? >> No, twice a year. >> Twice a year. Okay. So, you want to put that in. You can use that as a measuring
tool. >> I don't think I I personally want to overregulate how the superintendent delivers strategic plan updates. >> Right. >> Personally, I mean, I think if the board feels uncomfortable with the way we're receiving updates, we will ask the superintendent to strengthen the way that we receive updates.
>> Then annually is fine. However you want to place it, we just need place it or remove it. We need a timer though. >> Okay. How do we feel about changing the date to annually instead of being as date specific board member? Sorry. >> I'm thinking on an ongoing basis via
scheduled work sessions, >> right? Updates. >> Yeah, I certainly don't want to wait a year to know that we're not meeting our goals. >> Well, that's true. Regularly. >> What? >> Oh, Dr. Sorry.
>> Sure. So, the the way I'm visualizing this is I do think that annually we still need to have the superintendent say these were the goals from last year. We know this is our goal for five years, but this is the goal we anticipate to
make in this school year. And I I mean I I think there's value in setting we have our long-term goal and our short-term goal that is an annual goal. And so I appreciate the annual thought. I I don't I don't really know that we had the superintendent detailing to us specific
performance objectives she intended to have. So I think that this part of the contract previously I don't know that we actually had that specifically occurring apart from the strategic plan. >> Well, yeah. I mean I think the strategic plan had all of those subsections and so each subsection had a quantifiable
metric and it had a goal for the year and a goal for the five years. So, and and we received those maybe it was once annually, maybe it wasn't twice twice annually, but they're paced out like every two or three months over the course of 12 months and there are five
sections. So, that's how it all shakes out. >> So, I think if we just say annually we're going to be updated on every goal, that's essentially what happens >> on its own. >> That's the official update the board receives is essentially the presentation of the strategic plan. I think that's
good. >> Okay, Reverend Cummings, >> I mean, I can get behind the annual thing. We But I would like to, as a board member, I want to see um I I don't want us to wait a whole year to find out we got a problem in an area.
>> I rather see things in some shorter increments to know, are we progressing? Do we need to adjust? You know, is is the superintendent seeing that there's an issue that they need to adjust something on plan. So, I would like to see something a little bit more frequently
or insert inserted in there somewhere. I hope I'm making sense, y'all. >> But this is this language is talking about proposing goals and performance objectives, not touching base on those proposals. So, I I appreciate what you're saying, but this language is specifically
referencing the proposal of goals and objectives, which is what the strategic plan update work sessions are for. It also talks about the progress of those goals too. At the end, the last par last sentence talks about the progress of those goals. So we can what I'm saying
is we change the September 1st to annual meaning annually we are receiving the proposed goals and performance objectives and then potentially Reverend Cummings the superintendent will report to the school board her progress in meeting the schoolboard approved goals and objectives
on a regular basis or if you want to be more specific you can because I understand what you're trying to say. We need to write whatever we write for compliance. Regular basis does not invite compliance. We need to find out I need to know when someone has breached
the contract because this has not been done. >> It can be it could be quarterly or it can be every semester for me. Um but I just think there needs to be some checkpoints in there. >> Quarterly makes sense. Um because we're broke up into quarters in terms of >> we do
>> grades and the benchmark assessments and >> quarterly based on the academic year meaning the academic quarters >> calendar >> academic calendar >> or quarterly based on July 1 to June 30th >> academic >> I would say academic quarterly >> so following the conclusion of each
academic quarter. So, we have to think of this, sorry, if we're having open discussion. Um, the we have to think of this more holistically. We're really focused on all of those academic metrics because of course that's what our business is, but this the overall
evaluation tool and the strategic plan will encompass staffing that also work year round, all of our facilities needs, safe schools, finance, all of those things that are happening year round. So, I I don't want us to get so hung up
on Yes, student performance metrics are really what we we're in this business for, but we also want to make sure that we don't forsake all those other things. So, I think a quarterly based on the >> the calendar >> actually would make more sense.
>> You're right. So then that would mean at a semester break, December would be one of the quarter, you know, January, whatever, you would still get that natural break at the semester, but you would still um
calendar quarter would be >> I don't know that it needs to be formally presented in a workshop. So I think we receive we receive information independently and updates very regularly about data about behavior about finances. So I think what we're looking
to make sure is an inshrining contract is that we are getting regular which we will define updates regarding the metrics that we've set in the strategic plan. Would that be a summary of what everyone's trying to accomplish or no? Board member Thor >> that and I hear that it also leaves the
public out. So I would be more comfortable with by at least by annually maybe updates because what I'm what I'm remembering is that pretty much every couple of work sessions there was a strategic plan goal presented and I
can't remember what the verbiage is for the uh for the factors. Um, and that was really helpful to me as a board member because then we could weigh in on the and get feedback on what staff is doing to adjust >> or what to celebrate and that's all public.
>> I respectfully though I think that speaks to the the start of the the start of the thing. So the superintendent annually will propose goals and performance objectives. So, as we have those strategic goal updates because we we get them annually, goal one, we get the
goals for this year, where we were last year, where we're going. I mean, that is what is that is what those meetings are. They do happen essentially every two months. So, it feels like they're happening regularly, but that is each goal annually being presented.
>> Understood. >> Right. I mean, >> it is a cycle. >> Yes. >> It's a running calendar, >> right? Right. like we wish we'd had with the tenants. >> Okay. I'll just try to simplify it by saying I'd like for that process to continue at least while I'm still on the board because it seems like it worked well. >> I I'm not looking to change anything
we're currently doing. >> No, me either. But I do I do agree with Reverend Cummings that I think the expectation as a board member is that we do get regular whatever we deem that to be as a procedure. you know, we we don't
want to know at the end of the cycle, at the end of the year that there's been a >> big loss in one area. You know, there's a deficit. So, my expectation is that and she and Dr. Brewer, >> it does a good job at keeping us updated,
>> which is the whose contract we're talking about. It's not like we're talking about a contract for someone we don't know, >> right? I just mean that's you know somewhere I I think the expectation is shared and it doesn't have to be in this >> and I think I think personally uh one of the things that we've we've all had
issues with as board members was communication or lack of communication. So I think this helps with that communication piece and which is a part of the evaluation tool that we're going to that we that's part of their evaluation. This helps that superintendent be successful in that
area for me. Um, so I I I need to be able to see I don't want to know the house is on fire after it's burned down. >> So, so let's let's just get some landing. Let's try to bring this plane in for a landing. So, at the beginning of the sentence, the superintendent
annually will propose goals and performance objectives to be achieved or worked toward by the superintendent and her staff. Do we feel good changing the September 1st date to the word annually? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we're landed on changing September 1st to annually.
And then looking at the August 1st date, we would like to change that to quarterly. I believe that's what I've heard the majority of the board say. So, so quarterly updates in that last portion.
>> Correct. The August 1 date would change to the word quarterly. Maybe we could say at least quarterly, which would cover the something's on fire part. >> Sure. At least quarterly. Do we feel comfortable with at least quarterly? >> Yeah, that's great. >> That sounds good. >> Okay. Um, so I hear five of us saying
change August 1st to the words at least quarterly. >> Does that sound good from legal? >> Yes. >> All right. Moving on to certification. This is the same as Dr. Gullet's. Um there is um a yellow highlighted portion
that says at the district's expense superintendent will belong or become certified through the Florida Association of District School Superintendent FADS. This is separate from the memberships section. Um so she also has a section
regarding memberships which we will get to. I I think one thing that we I would like us to consider and maybe it's not for now, it's for later. What I have heard which we're going to have all have in-depth conversations
with our CFO tomorrow. We have things to cut and my understanding is each department is going to be tasked with making cuts. Every department, every school is making cuts, every department is making cuts. I see Mr. Rio shaking his head. So my
expectation as a board member would be that there is no department left held held harmless. Like everyone is responsible for making cuts. So my expectation would be that the superintendent as well as the school board are both making cuts. if we are cutting from every department and every
school and that may just be my own personal philosophy but if we enshrine this into contract that we are going to pay for fads we will not be she her budget which I believe she shared with everyone there's not a lot of fluff
there um and so I just concern it's a concern for me that we will enshrine in contract a professional membership which we may then need to have conversation about as we are cutting another 30 plus million dollars from our budget. So those are just my thoughts on it and I
open it to the board to have discussion. Dr. Campbell, >> I will wholeheartedly disagree with that thought process. I completely respect that there need to be cuts made to every budget. So I understand that. But being a part of the Florida Association of
District School Superintendent, being the only district out of 67 that would not have a representative there will not benefit this district at all. I believe wholeheartedly that the training she's receiving, even the training she received last week, will help her be a better professional. That's the purpose
of professional development. We have found the value in the Florida School Boards Association. I understand there were decisions made last year, budgetary decisions that specific board members chose to make. However, the value of the professional development that has been
lost to the full board this past year is not going unnoticed by me certainly. And so I will wholeheartedly believe that FADS is a requirement of this district that we find the money to ensure that
our superintendent has a seat at that table at all times in every way. the benefits received, including all of the legislative updates, all the things that come specifically from those state associations, give us a seat at the
table that is different and unique to any other professional organization that she could be a part of. So, I will completely disagree with us not having a fads membership. And for the record, I'm not saying get rid of the fads membership. I'm saying take it out of the contract that it's contractually
required to pay for it. Any other board members have a thought on the matter? >> I do. I I I'm I'm in alignment with Dr. Campbell on this one. Um there's extreme value in our superintendent being um a member of FADS. Um and I think uh it
should come at at a district suspense. It is part of professional development and I just feel that that's something that's um has benefited our district for a while. Um that membership in the um in FAT. So I I think it should be a part of
the certification process. >> Okay. Any other thoughts? Board member Thor, >> I appreciate all the conversation around this. Um I've witnessed it both ways and I would say that um you know across two
different superintendents, three now. And I would say that the two out of three that are active participants and really taking the uh the the learning, the the professionalism, the having a group
to uh share and and just again be the be a seat at that table is really worth it. And I guess to me it feels a little counterintuitive.
Our teachers have to complete professional development to be able to reertify. >> Correct. >> So I just believe that the value far outweighs the expense should hopefully there'll be
some other ways across the department. It kind of reminds me, and again, you know, I've been here a while. Years ago during the Great Recession, um seemed pretty weird to me that a behavior specialist would be asked to limit their school visits because of the budget.
Uh one big lawsuit. So, you know, again, we need we you rob Peter to pay Paul dearly later. >> Okay, >> I'll stop with that. Uh, board member Conrad. >> Um, thank you. Um, I appreciate the
conversation, too. This is something that I've I've struggled with. Uh, the price tag is large. Most of most of us as teachers when we cert reertify, we reertify for free, you know, unless we've let it go too long and then we
have to pay for a course out of pocket. But we our re our certification is if if you stay ahead of it, you know, um you can you can take care of it without much of a cost. Um I just struggle with it that it's such a high price tag. Like $26,000 is a lot of
money. I definitely want our superintendent to have a seat at the table. I think all of the things that she shared with us um that FADS covers and assists with are all great and wonderful and important. I
just think it's a really high price tag. Um >> okay. >> So I'm I'm just going to share share that board. I'm I'm struggling with the amount not not the value of it. Well, and again >> what she you know the training that she
reserves and I >> my perspective was simply to not enshine it in contract but what I hear is everyone wants to keep it in contract. So that works for me. Are we good there? All right. Um moving on to administrative authority delegated. There are is the same as Dr. Gullet and
no recommendations from legal. >> Keep rolling. >> Okay. Everyone good there? All right. performance objective and responsibilities and board there is um Miss Brown and attorney powers please reference the email from Dr. Brewer
yesterday evening or afternoon regarding the fads uh bonus I guess we would call it um you both received an email from Dr. Brewer. There's a compensation component to her CEO um
program she's in. It's a 40 it's a a year-long program and there is a bonus component that the district is responsible for paying out after the evaluation of that program. If it it was an elected position, the state the state
if it was an elected position, the state pays for it. Because if it's not an elected position, we pay for it. Um and it um generally is about $7,000, but I do believe that we need to ensure that that is a part of the contract
>> one time bonus >> and that was back here. >> Is that a one time bonus? >> Yes, for the completion of the program of the program. >> I would imagine we also did this with Dr. Gullet. Um I'm seeing a yes for Miss Morant. I think it probably wasn't really put in contract, but it was done
for Dr. Gullet. So, um I just think it's important that we make sure under performance objectives and job responsibilities potentially um if that's not the appropriate place then it could go somewhere else but that we make sure that we are notating that
essentially we're responsible out of non-restricted funds to pay this. >> I thought I saw it. >> Do you see the email I'm referencing? Okay. Do you have comment on it? >> I I do not. I I mean I haven't done any kind of deep dive into it. I've read the
email. So, >> okay. >> So, it's a one a one-time cost to us or because she's certified, we pay that every year because she keeps up a certification. >> No, it's a it's a it's a bonus based on evaluation for participation in the
program. >> So, once she gets that certification, we do the onetime bonus once she completes it. Correct. Correct. >> And then we it's not recurring. So >> correct. >> Board member Thor. >> My objection lies with the unfairness
that if you are an appointed superintendent, the district has to pay for something that the state obviously supports and is willing to pay for. So board member Campbell, would you please add that to your list of advocacy and we can start that in July when we meet with our local delegation.
>> That makes no sense. And >> so just this is this is the chief executive officer leadership training through FADS >> and it is in the contract on page five
under certification incentive >> and so I'm bringing it up here to make sure it is in fact captured. >> It it is in the contract. We didn't I don't think we discussed it perhaps or u but it is on page five.
>> Okay. >> Correct. Okay. So then we don't need to dig into that because it is an I. Um I wanted to make sure that it was captured. So >> So the question though would become I guess because she's received that certification while she's the interim.
>> No, she has not. She just started the program. >> Okay. She just started it. Okay. All right. Turn. Well, that's already in the contract that it would be a part of it. >> Perfect. So, the performance objectives and job responsibilities, which is um the section where we would talk about the performance pay bonus. Um so, we'll
revisit that now board. Um personally, I don't think I'd like to offer performance pay outside of getting an A school district and a set rate for um graduation rate. So, we can start with um uh district grades. Does anyone have an opinion different than an A district?
I don't. Okay. >> Before we move on to that, I want to clarify we're if if if we're moving on from the chief executive officer leadership training, I'm not seeing we've got on page five. Uh I it's
paragraph >> I I >> it's already enshrined in contract. There is I did get the email regarding what CEO LDP does. Um, so is there a need for
an alteration? Is board member James, are you seeing that there is some need for alteration in the contract to mesh this or I don't see any changes to the program? I don't see anything that makes it a different than
what we already currently do. >> No. So, it was brought to my attention and it was sent to the attorney and the clerk to ensure that it was covered in the contract, which is why I'm bringing it up because the rest of the board did not receive the communication. And
honestly, until I was made aware yesterday, I wasn't aware that the board was responsible for a $7,000 >> I see >> incentive. And by the way, that's number is not in here actually at all in the contract. So, as a board member, I wouldn't have been even able to
recognize that there we were responsible for theoretically a $7,000 bonus. Um, my might also I guess the language around the monetary
compensation is not very clear in my opinion for II. It doesn't say that it's a bonus. It doesn't say that it's a salary adjustment. It's not clear. So, if we were going to make it more clear, I would ask that we look at the specific
language that was sent to you all and add in specification that that it is a bonus and not a salary adjustment because I heard Reverend Cummings specifically share hesitation around a salary adjustment. >> And of course, it may impact what other
um what other benefits or uh bonuses that the board chooses to give. It does say at the bottom of II it is specific specifically understood between the parties that any monies earned under this section shall not be a part of the superintendent pay. >> Okay. Well, thank you for that.
>> We give them 26 and they give us seven back. Is that what we're saying? >> In one year. Yes, ma'am. >> And it is listed on the certification incentive. So, it's a one we get I guess it's a one we know it's a one time one time thing,
>> right? It's not recurring. >> Correct. So if there's if no one seeks clarification, I'm simply bringing it up because it was brought to my attention and I wanted to make sure we were all on the same page because it had not previously been redlined. So I wanted to make sure everyone was aware and knew. >> Yeah. Without seeing the email is difficult to completely understand. So
you said that FADS pays that back to us. Like I'm I haven't seen the email. >> Fads pays it to Dr. Brewer, I believe. >> Okay. So >> I'm not exactly sure how the money is transacted. So maybe Miss Morant has historical information about Dr. Gullet. I don't know.
um how she received the money, but I mean it it doesn't seem like we really have an option. So, it's not really there's not much we can do about it >> and it's not money out of our pocket other than the membership to feds. >> No, I'm pretty sure it's our I think we
pay for it like as a part of >> again didn't see the email. Have no idea what to talk about. >> Correct. And it would be improper for me to forward anything to all of you. >> 100%. So, attorney powers, you're more than welcome to forward the email that
you received to everyone if you'd like, but the board is responsible for paying a bonus at completion of this of the evaluation. That is the way I understand it. Sure, Miss Maran, if you have context, that would be helpful. >> Good morning, board chair, board
members. So, I want us to be on the same page as well. the CEO bonus unless that amount has changed, but based on what Dr. Gullet received, it was $7,500 and she did receive it more than once. So, and then I was looking at the
contract language, it does look like it implies that it is a recurring because it says you have to maintain it as well. Um, but it's not a part of the base salary. It's an added line that's paid through payroll, but just like the car allowance, it's not included in that
base salary. That is what I thought. Thank you. >> So, it is reoccurring. >> It is reoccurring and it's and we pay the 7 $7,500 or >> my understanding and Mr. Rio Welsh can research and confirm that that is paid
by the the district that amount. But that certification that um chief executive officer leadership development now again I'm basing this on um what Dr. Gullet received. She received that in 2324. was added to our salary line also
2425 and if I am looking at the the rights um version of the contract it does mention about that you have to have it and maintain it which would also lead to by
completing obtaining and maintaining the leadership development and performance certification. So that lean to lean towards the idea that it is a recurring bonus as well or supplement. Correct. So, this is why I brought it up to the board because I didn't know exactly
where it fell, but I wanted to make sure we were all aware that this is one of those add-ons. And if we were reflect back on Dr. Gullet salary, we were all kind of like, "Wow, how is it so high?" But then there was line item line item line item that were in the word inflating maybe is the wrong word to
use, but that is what I literally mean. this the salary because the base salary was still pretty low. But then we had essentially multiple items that increase that salary and there's nothing we can do about this because again >> other than change our base salary that
we've already agreed upon. I I mean when we start maybe >> and I don't think that's personally think that's appropriate. I think she could go be a competitive candidate in another district and get more than that and I don't think it would be appropriate and they're all going to get the same 7500 because if every district
is a part of fads every district is sending their superintendent through this program and then every superintendent is getting this incentive correct that we're paying for. >> Is there any other way to get the certification or you can only get it through fadeds? >> I I can't speak to that. I don't know,
but we can try to dig for you, but I'm not familiar either way. >> It's like becoming a certified board member as >> there's no bonus. >> You think you because you want to be a good board, you want to be a good board member, so you do the work, >> right? But it's only through the Florida
School Boards Association that you can earn the certified schoolboard member status because they're the ones that offer the coursework and the conferences and everything else. So, you know, these professional leadership organizations and memberships,
it it's a you have to weigh that the value, you know, versus the cost. Um, and from, you know, from from what I've been able to benefit from through the years, I think
that my participation in the Florida School Boards Association has been, you know, really valuable and has benefited me as a school board member. One of my regrets is that I haven't been more active in leadership positions within that organization, but I chose to focus my time with my schools. Um,
so you know, again, what are we about here? This is Marian County Public Schools. I think we're about education. I think we're about elevating our professionals and expecting that we take advantage of these opportunities. It's But there there's money involved. >> Correct. And to keep us on track, we've
already agreed we're keeping fads in the contract. that's not changing. So, I just think it's a part as we as we continue to talk about performance objectives and job um job responsibilities. I wanted to make sure the board had awareness and thank you for clarifying, Miss Morant, but in the base salary that we've agreed to, which
I believe was 205, if I go back and look at my notes, was that correct? >> Yes. Yes. So 205 within the next 12 months an additional 7500 which will be prorated based on the completion for that year um which would
be next school year um will be added. So board member Thor >> may I offer that and just having it in there for clarity because I agree this is unclear. It's easy to just read through and be like oh um currently $7,500.
>> It's not that though. So it's based on an evaluation. So Dr. Gullet and I imagine most probably do really well on the evaluation and they land themselves at the top tier, but there is an evaluation component attached to the completion of the program which then dictates the amount of money that you
get. >> Oh, I thought the prrated I thought the pr-rated meant that depending on when you >> That is what prrated means. But what I'm saying is the bonus is not a flat 7500. the bonus >> because you can get like three or a level five like
>> based on a superintendent score, right? >> And then it's 3,00 to 7500. >> So up two >> and I would feel hesitant to set it because if fads decides that they're going to change the threshold that we then have to be responsible for, we would have enshrined in contract something that we can't we would have to
change. >> We would have to change. So currently a range of 3,00 to7500 subject to um >> evaluation >> subject well no subject to to
adjustments via fads or something if we wanted to make it clear that there's money involved in this paragraph that's what I'm trying to work towards. I agree because when you read that last sent last sentence, at least for me, my takeaway is this it it's a one-time
cost for us when I read that. That's how that's what it feels like. So, I definitely think we that needs to be ironed out. something you might be able to work on. >> And and the other thing I want to share, and this is a little in the weeds chair, so I'm sorry, but as as a board, if all
of us are members of FSBA, it's the same amount as what we're spending for the superintendent. So, it's five of us, right? >> Are are members and get trained for about the same amount as a superintendent. And then there's no, you
know, there's no bonus or anything for whatever we complete. But I just I wanted to say that so the public understands. Um >> Dr. Campbell, >> thank you. And I I wanted to elaborate just a bit on that again for public conversation. So when you think of what
we receive being only 67 school districts in the state of Florida and when you would potentially compare us to a Texas or a Tennessee or a New York or other states,
they have thousands of school districts that help provide staffing and support for all that is needed for the multiple million students in each of those states. So, if I'm going to speak for
FSBA, if FSBA were to reduce the membership rate significantly to say $10,000 per district or something to that degree, we would not be able to provide the same level of services at
all. When you think of all the different um things that happen, you've got all of your leadership trainings, that's under one staff person. We've got all the conferences, another staff person, all the communication that we receive on a regular basis. We've got all the legislative and federal work that's
being done. All all of those different pieces are all done by different people. The the legal work that they get from FADS. So, yes, the price tag is high, but the reason it's high is because there's only 67 districts that are contributing. And if you were thinking of thousands of school districts, then
that would be thousands of superintendents that would be contributing. And that's just not the case in the state of Florida. It's unfortunate that it looks like this exorbitant cost to us, but that's the way it has to be explained to be able to receive that level of service. The cost has to be high or we would not be
receiving that same level of service. Yes, five of us get to participate in Florida Schoolboards Association for roughly the same cost. But that again is the same cost per district because there's only 67 districts and those costs are prrated ba or prrated is not
scaled scaled based on size of districts. also. So they do take that into consideration based on the number of students you serve >> and board for the purpose of this conversation I'd like to just keep us focused if we can. So we we have agreed
that the staying in the contract is the fed's membership and now I would like if we can just firm up if we want to add language about monetary value back to that section on certification attorney >> as your attorney I'm going to recommend it's not necessary and the reason is at the very beginning certification
incentive um after that language it says the superintendent shall be eligible to receive salary enhancements in accordance with the following statutes. >> That's right. seller enhancement. I mean that that that alerts you that the money's involved. Secondly, um the
statute involved 101.40 and and it goes on to 101.47 and five. Those outline the amounts. When you look at the statute, there's a $2,000 on one and the statute gets updated regularly to show what the amounts are.
>> Understood. >> Um so I don't think any alteration is necessary. Um, it says what it needs to say, but it it I mean it can be more explanatory from a, you know, sort of a
making sure that someone reading the contract is not having to deal with fine print. They they're >> Okay. Well, board, do we feel comfortable then keeping the language the same? >> Yeah, that's why I was going to say the same thing. He said it's already enshrined in that with this with the statute. So, there's no need in being
redundant in it like it is. So, so are we all in agreement then with keeping the language the same? I see a yes from Dr. Campbell. That's three yeses. >> Sure. >> Okay. So, let's get back to then the performance objectives responsibilities which is item 14 on page nine.
This is where we would discuss a a bonus for receiving an A school district rating. So, let's start there. Board >> anyone? Dr. Campbell? Sorry, just getting >> No, it's fine. I I was looking at the lake um superintendent contract and
there are two different levels. One is job performance. I guess that would be based on board member evaluations and then the other is on student achievement. So, initially I had considered those two as the options. However, especially in light of
understanding now that the base compensation of 205 now potentially has the opportunity to go up to 2125 just because of the conversation we just had. I would be comfortable with a bonus of $5,000 for a rated and maybe 7500 for
graduation rate at 95%. >> Is that an additional or in conjunction? Meaning, is the 7500 separate from the five? >> It is. I I see those two things as being separate. I think that graduation rate needs to be actually the A-rated school district. Yes, we want to get there, but
I think our graduation rate has to be the real every every student a graduate. That's going to be our new focus for our strategic plan. >> What's what's the what's the rate you said, Dr. Hamble? >> I said 5,000 for A-rated and 7,500 for uh 95%. But we could change that if we
wanted. That was just a throw out to to get the conversation started, but graduation rate needs to hit a certain level for that second bonus to kick in. >> So, let's start um I appreciate your recommendations, Dr. Campbell. Let's start with her recommendation for a bonus for an A-rated school district. She recommended $5,000. Do we are in
agreement or do we have any requests to change that? I can be in agreement with that. >> That's a nice number. >> Is that pretty much standard across the >> It's becoming standard. I mean, >> I can I can I can get behind 5,000. >> I can get I I'll be honest. I'll get
5,000 for both um graduation and the um >> and the a district. Um I wouldn't want to differentiate two different amounts, but >> so we're in a two-year contract. So, what I would offer is we've seen a pretty significant postcoid increase. We're almost essentially back to where
we were precoid. Um, if we were to maintain this though, a 95 would almost be unachievable in this first contract based on the increases we have. We've had 7% in two years. Well, if we have 7% in the next two years, we will not she will not be
able to hit that graduation rate because of where we are right now, right? So, I would just offer potentially like um either a 90 or a 92 because when this contract ends, my expectation certainly would be that we'd be raising that number to a new a higher number with the
contract renewal. We wouldn't maintain a an we should only be getting better, right? So, I I can agree with 5,000 for both. I just would say that that grad rate could be somewhere between 90 and 92. Um so, that it's an attainable goal in this first two-year contract. And then from there, as if I'm still a board
member, my expectation would be that we would be high um raising that. >> Um and board members, if you look at page five of your contracts at the very top, um there's a section, it's all blocked
in red, performance pay incentive. We had we had because we had initially blocked that out. Um, we hadn't moved it. M. When this was created, Miss Marchman put it in this spot. It's not the right spot for it,
though. It sounds like we may be wanting to use it. In which case, that section, performance pay incentive, should actually now be moved, if you intend to use something like it, should be moved to page nine and should be item D under
performance objective. >> Correct. job responsibilities. >> We would like to see that happen. >> Want to make sure that everybody's on the same page with that. And then so I'll be working from altering the language since it sounds like we do want to use performance pay incentive. I'm
working from altering the language that exists there. >> Correct. So looking at page five board, if everyone will put their attention on page five, the what was presented was $10,000 for an A rating and 2500 for a grad rate of 90% or higher. Um I think
we had had a recommendation from at least two board members now about 5,000 for an A-rated district. Um can I get us all to agree um or offer an opposing opinion on the A-rated district rate? >> 5,000 works for me.
>> Yeah, 5,000 works for me. Okay. And Reverend Cummings, I'm sorry. >> Yeah, I said 5. >> Okay. I can't Okay. I just wanted to make sure. So, we're at 5,000 for the A-rated district. And then what percentage of a grad rate are we looking at? And then we'll talk number. >> I can go behind. I can get with 92%.
>> 92. >> Can we have a range? Can we have 90 to 92? >> I don't think that would be a I think right now >> we're at 85 and have gained seven points in two years. >> Right. I like the language of 90% or higher,
especially for a two-year contract. I think your point is well taken. Um that we want it to be achievable and it's not saying 90. It's not like you're not going to get the money if it's not if it's higher. >> Correct.
>> So 90% or higher. That's I think that's a very achievable. >> All right. Then using the language she presented, how does everyone feel about that? >> I like it. Yeah, I can do that for two years. >> We want to for sure. >> Okay. And then um >> support it. >> And the rate 5,000
>> five was the highest. Okay. >> Currently 2500. >> Correct. But the but the a district was 10,000. Yes. So we're we're seeing five for each. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Terry's got it. Terry's got it. >> All right. All right. So then when we go >> when when we go back to nine um when we
go back to page nine board back to prof per um performance objectives and job responsibilities we're going to add in D which we are all in agreement on adding. Um and then there was no other changes here for performance objectives or job responsibilities board. So is everyone else good with what's left um for that
section? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Exclusive employment. Um this is um the same as Dr. Gullet. Is there any changes or corrections? Board. >> It's gonna be the only job.
>> Only job. >> Yes. He doesn't have time. >> Can't be paid to be a mentor or consultant. >> Correct. Are we all good? >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Okay. Memberships. >> Here we go again. >> Here we go again. But we've really already we've really just nailed this down, y'all. So, um, this is essentially
saying memberships outside of FADS, because FADS is contractually required, will not exceed $5,000. >> Right. >> Per memberships do not exceed $5,000. >> Okay, I'm good with that. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. Travel allowances. Um this is getting redlined to add out of district travel since we are setting a in district travel essent essentially we're with the vehicle expense we're saying
you get to in district travel you're using your personal vehicle so we're not reimbursing for that. So it's really just specifying that you'll only be reimbursed for out of district travel. >> Yes. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> That language will be added to that. Yes. >> Yes. It's it's redlined to add in. Yep.
All right. That's five yeses with what the attorney had recommended. The attorney's fees and expenses, it's the same as Dr. Gullet's. Is there any changes or corrections there, board? >> Long as our attorney's happy with it. >> Yep. This is what the recommendation is.
>> All right. >> But those fees um there was a certain amount. >> They are subject to our board policy. >> Okay. Very good. >> Do you want to add the policy into Yeah, I would say that >> if you want to, we can, but that that's we'll we'll we'll do that policy policy
on point for that reason >> cuz we had an issue with that before. >> So, yes, but I heard >> Yes, >> I was in the audience. I remember. >> All right. So, we will add the policy number to this and then we are all in agreement once we add the policy number. Is that correct? >> Yes. Correct.
>> All right. Governing laws and venues, there are no changes. It's what's recommended by attorney powers. Are we all in agreement? >> Yes. >> Okay. Five. In agreement. Uh severability.
Same as Dr. Glets. No changes from the attorney. >> Yes. >> Are we all in agreement? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Dr. Campbell. Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. So, that's five yeses. Uh warranties and representatives of
superintendent. Same as Dr. Gullet. This is a fit for duty >> standard. >> It is standard. >> Yes. >> Are we all in agreement? >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh the entire agreement
same as Dr. Gullet. No changes from our attorney. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> This is all just standard stuff. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> There's no need to modify. >> Okay. Opportunity to consult with council. We all in agreement?
>> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Tax consequences. All in agreement? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Default again. Same as Dr. Gullet. All in agreement. >> Yes.
>> Policy in Florida law. So, >> you good, Reverend Cummings? >> Yes. >> Okay. Additional action. >> Yes. >> Again, same as Dr. Gletitz. >> Okay. >> Yep. Board member, are you good? >> Yes. Okay. Amendment. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> We all in agreement. No changes. >> Okay. No. Third party beneficiaries. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sounds like we're all in agreement there. Selection and approval of
council. Same as Dr. Gullet and is needed for other outside council options. That's the note from our attorney. Any other changes? Board. A yes. >> Yes. >> Good. Yes. >> Okay. Sounds like a five uh five in
agreement there. Sovereign immunity. Same as Dr. Gullet. Any changes? Board. >> Yes. >> Ladies, legislature, leave it alone. >> Yes. >> Okay. Looks like we're all in agreement for sovereign immunity. Indemnification. >> Leave it alone. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Sounds like we're five uh five in agreement for that waiver. Same as Dr. Vlets. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sounds like we're five in agreement there.
>> Legal compliance. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sounds like we're five an agreement there. Notices. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. File an agreement there. And counterparts?
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. All right. So, board, I just want to go back. I made notes. I want to go back to the things that we were not in 100% agreement with, which is perfectly fine. Um, compensation, we are at 205. Um, three board members in
agreement on 205 base and two board members at 210. Um, and then looking at the supermajority, we have three board members in support of a super majority and two in support of a majority.
And um obviously I shall not go back to the fads conversation. So I believe that sums it up. Everything else was a we were all in agreement on. Um attorney, is there any further discussion you need from us? >> No.
>> From this point, we would finish the red lines. Um make sure that everything is coherent and would send it to the superintendent and her counsel for review. And then as soon as we hear back, we'll be prepared to slate it on for >> April 28th.
>> April 28th. >> And just to be clear, it can be predated April 28th. So we could actually have it in a meeting ahead of that with the date effective of April 28th. >> We could. >> Okay. I mean, I think it might be um com
it may make the community more comfortable to know we're not sitting on it for two months. And if we have it done, how would the board feel about hearing it on a meeting prior to April 28th? >> Go ahead and do it. >> I mean, that's fine. Certainly, this is kind of a negotiation. So, Dr. Brewer needs to have the opportunity to weigh
in on what her thoughts are and the things that we >> Well, that's what we'll come next. So, we're going to get redlined, it's going to go to the her attorney, and then based on if her attorney says, "All good, let's play ball." Then it will be done and it will land on an agenda for the board. >> I would say as soon as possible. If if
she's in agreement, we're in agreement. Put it on and waited for the 28th start date soon as possible. >> Okay. Does that sound good to the rest of the board? >> I would just say that it would be nice to have it uh buttoned up before we leave for spring break. That >> Yeah, >> a nice I mean I do think the possibility
exists for the last board meeting in February if her attorney agrees with everything we've presented. >> I mean there's not if they agree with everything we've presented, it's pretty easy. >> Well, sure. Certainly, if attorney Powers feels like we need to meet again, I'll be reaching out to the board via Elena and staff to get another work
session scheduled to discuss um the items we need to discuss further. Okay. Is there any public comment on this item? All right. Hearing none, I do believe that wraps up this particular item. Um let's go ahead and take like a we'll
call it a 10-minute recess to allow Miss Brown to gather her things because I think she's done with us. Thank you, Miss Brown, for being here today. And that'll give us a little bit of time to grab a quick bite and we'll come back at um let's call it 11:28. >> We call it 11:30. >> 11:30
All right, welcome back. It is 11:34. Um, our final item for today is the schoolboard residency areas. Um, so board, we have three attachments in board docs for this. Um, this item has been one that Dr. Campbell's mentioned a
couple times and we've honestly discussed as a board as we've grown in the southwest. the um amount of students in that particular area um have grown and so um just to read into record some of the attachments um I can do that
while you guys work on opening >> yeah isn't opening right now for me so >> so um so the current school assignments per board member have the following total student enrollments projected uh or for the 2526
school year. So in district 1, it's 8,400 students. District 2, 8,900 students. District 3,6,000 students. District 4, 5,500 students. And district 5, 5,900 students. So this
was really brought about for um the intentionality of balancing the student enrollments amongst all five districts. Um there is um the 2021 residency areas is presented and then
looking at the um attachment which is the proposed school assignments that is the proposed from Dr. Campbell. Um certainly it's just really a starting place for the board to have discussion. So I would open it up to Dr. Campbell or the rest of the board to start a
conversation. >> Okay. Or docs is finally starting to open. Sorry. I'm I'm just trying to >> You're fine. >> get because the document that I worked on then then Dr. Brewer had added the >> projections for >> projections for next year. So I'm just
trying to get all of them open correctly. >> So all I can um I can start with our current assignments and so just to give you the indication of how the colors then transfer over into the other one because that in case there is any
confusion on that. So if you also look at the schoolboard map, those are our colors that are representative on the map. So that's how I created the current
school assignments. So district one on the map is like a blue color and district two is a yellow color so forth. So that's why the colors are what they are. Uh, so you can kind of see that corresponding.
Then if you take those colors and keep the colors the same. So whereas I'll use an example of Greenway Elementary is currently in blue because that is currently a district one assigned school
and you go over to the proposed the color of blue goes over into the yellow because Greenway keeps its blue color because that's where it currently is and then goes over into potentially district two because all of Silver Spring Shores
on the map all of Silver Spring Shores is now represented by district two. So hopefully that hasn't been completely confusing. I'm trying to make sense of it in case you guys just are like, why is this this way? Why is that that way? So again, the colors on the map, all
three attachments kind of have to work in tandem. >> The map was redone in 2021 based on census. And so those are now our live-in districts and there were changes that were made quite significantly. Reverend Cummings and Miss Thrower can remember
we had conversation with the supervisor of elections and we talked through what that would look like. Um our board policy and statute I think allow or at least board policy allows us to do that in oddnumbered years and so we did that change so that anybody who ran in 22 and
24 and now in 26 are following this map. the 2020s were different. So anyway, that's the history on what this is. As the map continued to change and evolve, and as we continued to add schools, we
never made changes to the school assignments that each school board member has. >> Can I add one clarifying point real quick? >> Absolutely. To your point, some of the adjustments you made were because now like as
Greenway as an example is in district 2's living district, correct? >> But not all of the changes you made were for that reason. >> That is correct. >> Okay. So, I just wanted to make sure that that was clear that there are there are some when you're looking at the map, you're like that doesn't make sense. Some were for that leveling purpose and
then others were just for rather more balancing than anything else. >> Correct. Okay. >> So, yes, thank you for that clarification. So yes um then with for example a Dr. NH Jones and a Madison Street while Dr. NH Jones has a very small live-in district the majority of
the students there are a part of the school choice lottery that is happening right now and so those schools don't necessarily have to go with a live-in district per se. Um and same with a few others. Hillrest isn't a live-in district either. So there's there's a
couple of modifications that are included there. Um acceleration academy bridgeway those are just kind of students from everywhere come come through those forom as well. So those are some areas that we're able to kind
of move and it and that was a part of the balancing that was trying to be done. There are a couple of overall goals. The reason the conversation continues to be brought up. Number one is I want families that each one of us represent and when they go to our
website they can see which schools we represent. I want families in those areas to understand that we are assigned that school and also partly that we actually they could run for our seat if they didn't like what we said or something like I don't I don't want that
to be confusing to families that might be like oh well I'll just you know run whatever and they and it's actually different. So that's one um objective. The other is just the vastness of the number of students that we have in
certain um propo certain current school assignments. And while we have grown attached to communities and we appreciate um the schools that we represent and all, I I understand that
and I understand that that we're all balancing a heavy load. But ultimately, to be most respectful to the student families and the students we represent, the better balance we can have there, I think it just is better for our overall community. That's all I'm going to say about that.
>> Okay. I open it up to the board for further discussion. Board member Thor, >> we've had some informal chat about this publicly, but just in the spirit of the conversation, what is your proposed
timeline um for member Campbell for should the board choose to accept this for this to begin? >> Well, and I believe this can be a fluid conversation. Certainly, we can I mean, I don't want to say we're going to horse trade it, but it's like if there's reasons that we should not change certain things and keep things
differently or what have you, but the way it has been presented here is that it would take effect in the beginning of the school year for next school year. So, 2627 is when the new changes would occur. So, just before the election in 2026. I
know that messes you up for three months, Miss Thrower. >> No, no, I didn't. That snarl wasn't because of that. Oh, >> it was that that um with three seats up for election, it to start the school board start the school term with with
one board member and then shift to another in November. >> That would happen. >> That's gonna happen regardless. >> Seems odd um or even through the year, but you know, it's it's the change is a change is a change. So,
>> well, and I it is something that I brought up in one of my very first meetings in 2020 when I was elected. Uh, and the reason that I did, and that was before we had even changed the the live-in districts, but the reason that I did is I was visiting all of the
schools, just the crossover for district one and the schools I represent. I represented I represent Forest High School and then you cross over baseline and I don't represent Legacy or um even Marian Charter or any or Emerald Shores,
but I do represent Greenway and Lake High. And so it it it just didn't make geographical sense to me. That was why I first brought it up in 2020. And then in 2021 when we actually did change the
live-in districts of each one of us, then now the schools we represent aren't even in the live-in districts that we represent. Except for Reverend Cummings because he has the largest number. All of his are still still staying the same. We're essentially divvying up some of
his schools uh to other places, but also kind of correcting the the transition that's been um happening with District 1 and District 2. Again, this is a fluid conversation. If three of you say I don't want to have the conversation, that's kind of what's happened every
time I've brought it up before. Um, but that's why it's on the agenda. >> So, let me let me let me say because I have um been very vocal concerning this. Um, I understand Dr. Campbell where you are. I understand
why why you've gone did this before, mentioned it before because it looks like it's very disproportionate. Um it the number you're basically talking about um removing um about 5,000 students out of district three and
moving them and diving them up among um the other ones as far as and there's a few other ones as well. Um however um my conversations with schools and and families is that um especially the ones
that that you moved on this chart are very comfortable and very prefer district three. Um and and and there's a there's a um there's there's a perception when you
move certain schools. I'm going say that. Um, so I I personally I don't mind us having a conversation, but I'm not in agreement of moving any anybody out of district three right now. Um, particularly you have some schools that
have historically um been together in these districts. Uh, I I'll be very specific in who I'm talking about. College Park, Howard, um, Dr. H Jones, all those schools who have come out of district 3 that have been um traditional district 3 schools and nothing has I'm
not saying the traditions are are right, wrong or or anything have to be stayed there, but when there's a comfort level who you deal with um you need to kind of maintain certain things. So um that's where I'm at this
board member. >> I'm also thinking about timing. Those of us that have been on the board for a while are deeply involved with start of school, deeply involved with um all of the activities
that surround the start of school, helping the schools in our district get off to a good start. Um, you know, if if I were to support something like this, I just think it makes a whole heck of a
lot more sense. I would as a definite outgoing school board member would want to pair with whoever the incoming school board member is for my seat and you know introduce
them to my schools and share the nuances of the schools from my perspective for them to do what they want with it. um have it be a little bit more of a warm handoff versus okay well you know that's not the way it's going to happen. Um
people are they become very invested in in some of their school board members. You know all of us are different you know we all bring different histories and perspectives you know to these seats. Um board member Cummings just shared his so I wanted to to go ahead
and share mine. It's numbers matter certainly when it comes to budget that's for sure but when it comes to representation um I think there definitely needs to be
a a wade perspective especially when it comes to the timing. >> Madam chair one more thing um just to add on thank you Mr. door. Not only does it matter with representation, it matters with relationship. It matters
with relationship and ultimately we all represent every school in this district. Makes no difference where they are, but we all represent every school in the district. So, so whether whether my district is three, the the west side
of county, but I go to East Marian, I go to Fort McCoy, I go to all those schools. So I don't just claim a particular school um but but there is a comfort level, there is a relationship level, there's a um there's that um
rapport that you build with these districts and these schools. So >> So I just want to offer a thought pattern here. I think at a bare minimum, in my opinion, it would be appropriate for the reshuffleling to reflect at
minimum what is now our our districts with the supervisor of elections. Um because as I look at this map and obviously it's not crystal clear, but when I look at district 4, I believe district 4 now has College Park and
District 4 has Howard and Jones and and some of those other schools. And so I think it would be more than appropriate if nothing else to make the assignments reflect what our livedin
boundaries are on the supervisor of election website and our own website for for the primary reason which Dr. Campbell previously mentioned, which is that people people attach us to the school
their kid attends and then if they want to find someone to run in that seat, they know, okay, well, this is where that person has to live because my kid goes to this school. So what I would say I I would appreciate is a whether that may that may not completely solve what
we're looking to accomplish which is a better balancing of all districts but at a minimum put the put the schools in the districts where they are in fact located. So Dr. Campbell. >> So, I have offered before and can offer again
what Panelis does where they actually don't assign schoolboard members to any schools whatsoever. And so, essentially, every board member in Penllis says they represent all schools and if you have an issue with any one of them, you contact any one of the schoolboard members that
you have the best relationship with. That's what I and I look at it that same exact >> and so if if that then I'm completely I have presented that as an option before as well. >> That's funny. I don't remember. >> I absolutely did talked about Penllis directly. I I did talk about Penllis
because I came back from Penllis and talked about it because >> and so it it I that is also something that would be on the table for sure because this continues to be a challenge for us to want to
give up I guess what we've had or to to continue to maintain the status. Dr. James is correct that what used to be known as district three is not district 3 live-in district any longer. I I
respect what the history of that but it it hasn't been since 2021. So if we wanted to just say scrap it all and starting tomorrow that the district website did not even have schools assigned to any one of us that would be
fine with me for sure. The only challenge with what you had said there, Dr. James, about only having the schools that are in our live-in districts is because of the discrepancy that happens with district 5. And so the numbers of
students and the numbers of schools you have become grossly disproportionate to everybody else. and and district two has some of those challenges as well uh because of the way Silver Spring Shores and Wearsdale and uh Umatillaa like that
that kind of area. So originally when I brought this up you may remember a couple of years ago that staff took it upon themselves to just fix it and then went we were like wait wait wait no because that wasn't we didn't have conversation about it there. It just all of a sudden changed and we were like ah
because what changed was to take it just to that >> and that really made it disproportionate. So this at least chart perspective has a lot of thought behind different movements, different placements, how it
aligns with the map, how it aligns with uh schools that you can move based on not really having a zone like all. So there there was a lot of thought into it, but I'm willing to completely scrap it and say we don't represent one school. We represent all schools and every schoolboard member has that same
seat. >> Just real quick to to your point, that's exactly what I say when someone asks me. They say, "What schools do you represent?" And I say, "I represent all schools. I work for the taxpayer and I represent all of Marian County." And Marian County has countywide voting. So it's not like the only people in district five vote for people in vote
for me. The entire county votes for every board member. So, I I don't I don't ever look at it like I represent a certain school. We obviously have relationships that that are long-standing. I'm probably going to forever have strong relationships on the north end because I
live on the north end and it's a small community and my my family is multi-generational there, but but that that is beyond what seat I'm elected in in my opinion. Um, and so
board members are First, let me be clear. I don't mind taking more schools. I just don't want to lose the schools that I have, you know, three months before I come out of office after serving eight years. You know, um it's a unique position to be
in. uh speaking to the uh extending our one team, one mission to schoolboard service. I think that could be helpful in some ways because people are already very confused about well are you in my
district uh versus countywide election. You know, uh that could be some steps forward towards clarifying some of that for people. Um, so the concept of it as an as an futurethinking outgoing school
board member, it it does line up with the one team, one mission. I don't think that any of us have ever refused a call. >> You know, if if I got a call from Forest High School with a concern, I'm not
going to say I don't represent that district. You know, I'm going to say, "How can I help you?" Correct. >> So, in reality, I I believe we're already doing that. Um there there is a a comfort level obviously, you know, of of
people knowing that this this is this is my school board member, you know, so there's there's not going to be a perfect fit for this. Um, but I would lean more towards open districts
than I would forcing essentially forcing schools and/or board members to leave behind districts that they already have strong established relationships with that they've done an incredible amount of problem solving
>> and feel really good about that relationship. >> I totally agree. And for me, the one thing I would offer that I would love to still see is on the schoolboard website, we at least list what schools are in each district. Not as an assignment, but rather to there are people who look for their school's name to then have one
person to contact. It can feel very overwhelming when you then have to decide, well, which of these five people am I going to call? >> Right? >> So, when your kid goes to Reddit Collier, you just look for which board members responsible for Reddit Collier, right? And I worry that they they will feel overwhelmed when they're now trying
to decide, do I just start do I start with district one and just call district one? She doesn't answer, go to district two, go to district three, go to district four. So I think it would be helpful to the community to still know what schools are in what districts
from a livedin perspective on what we have approved as our livedin districts. Um, however that's presented, but I do think that would be helpful to the community. But I I'm totally a fan of essentially saying we represent all schools, but these are the something
like all board members represent all schools. These are a list of the schools inside their districts. >> But that's my two cents. I >> I could I could I could have got behind the open concept um
because and it's and and it not be on the site that we represent all schools. I get what you're saying, Dr. Uh Dr. um James, if we're going to change the narrative and make sure that everybody understands that we are representing all schools,
whether they're from the far west or the far east or the far north or far south, then we need to go ahead and make that be the message that they can that you can call any of us at any time and get um a response. So, I can be open to the
open to the openness of all of us, but I'm I'm as as board member Thor was saying, there are some schools that you just have built that rapport, that relationship with. And um when you pull them out, you get I can imagine how many
phone calls I want to get from certain people when you say you're going to pull certain schools away from district three. Even though they they're not under people are understanding what we're talking about as far as residency boundary. They're saying this is the person that represents my school. This is the person that when I got an issue,
I'm going to I'm going to them. Yes, we need to open it up where they feel comfortable coming to any board member, but it's just how you do. It's it's going to be how you do this. So, >> okay. So, let's see. Um, how do we all feel about removing all of the schools and saying here's the list of the school
board's contact information and a note that says the all school members represent all schools? >> I can get off. >> Fine by me. >> Or member Thor? >> Yes. And um, when would this begin? >> Whenever we want.
>> When would you like it to begin? November 15th, 2020. November 11th. >> So, respectfully, I don't think it changes the way of work at all. I mean, it doesn't >> Well, when they don't see your name on there, it it's just different, you know.
And um hey, there's there's no perfect way to do anything really. >> Well, and I think just to give context, so this whole Belleview situation, this whole Belleview situation, I can only speak to the emails I've received because we obviously don't have discourse, but Dr. Campbell and I have
received a lot of emails. Neither of us represent Belleview from our map that's on the schoolboard website. Her kids go to Belleview and I used to work at Belleview and so people attach our names to Belle which is why I imagine the two of us have been getting the emails about Belle. I even got
emails and phone calls which >> when they sent them >> well and I'm just thinking though so because we get them all of us get them but I just found it interesting that there was a variety of emails a plethora that were just the two of us and so to paint the picture that like it doesn't
matter what schools we have because it's based on the relationships people at least perceive they have with us right um and so to me it really people are going to reach out to whoever they they want to reach out to I mean Those people are only reaching out to me and and
>> Dr. Campbell because or they think we have a pre-existing relationship that has context and understanding to solve the problem. >> So, so, so, so implementation
mñana August 10th, November 11th. >> I could say this is Cummings. Um, I know Mr. Store is leaving the board. I would say if you're going to implement it, implement at the start of the school year, which is what, August. I know that
still gives you some a few months that, but at that time, >> I know where my schools are, >> right? You know where your schools are by that time. >> I know where all the other schools are. She's using the word my my >> I know. But you feel there's some possessions. >> Feel connected.
>> Yes. And and by that time, I think by the end of August, you'll have a um the seats hopefully will be seated as far as who's going to be on that school board and you can just have a cleaner transition,
>> right? And and certainly as when I first became a school board member, I thought to myself, why am I driving past Howard? >> Yeah. >> You know, to and and you know, I stop at Howard. I drop off donations from time to time. They have a pickle ball team. Um but anyway u so you know there's a
lot of this I agree you know board member Campbell is is is long overdue it's when when you change what has been done traditionally and people are used to that but then within a year it becomes the way it's always been done
you know >> when graduation venues were changed >> I point that as an example >> so and the start of school with a new high school with those zones changing anyway and they're coming from the Belleview area and like so they're pulling from different I think start of
school year. >> Well, every high school is being resoned. >> Yes, every high school is being resigned. >> Um so then to our PR team down uh you've taken note that we will have a transition on the website at the start of school to just reflect no more schools
specifically but rather that we all just our contact information and that we represent all schools. >> One team, one mission. >> One team, one mission. All right. Is there any public comment on this item? >> We'll be getting it later. >> All right. Hearing none, we are going to
move into um let me find my script in my pile of paperwork. I was going to try to wing that board, but probably best not to. Uh schoolboard meeting reminders. We have a a schoolboard meeting scheduled for February 10th, 2026. And
additionally, um, we have a special schoolboard meeting scheduled for February 19th at 7 a.m. We will be having you'll be getting notification, but we do have, um, discipline offairs. Believe there's six. So, we will be meeting at 7 a.m. on the 19th followed by a a administrative
briefing and work session at 9:00 a.m. All right. Um, I will open it up to board comments. Miss Martina Jang, >> nothing. Madam Chair, >> Mr. uh attorney powers. >> Nothing more from legal. >> All right. >> Okay. Thank you, board member Thor.
>> Oh my gosh. I keep saying that every time we meet there's so many things have happened in between that are great and I know uh Superintendent Brewer already spoke about the Golden Apple Gala and it was just such a smashing success. I
believe it smashed the record of attendance. It was freezing cold. people still really showed up and there was just such a beautiful spirit. I think you know everyone always enjoys that event but this event just continues to get better and better. So I really wanted to thank Megan Magamole and her
team from the public education foundation for continuing to evolve and and elevate that event. Um of course I was thrilled that Hillrest won the Triple Crown. Um I think that just
exemplifies the level of commitment that everyone has uh and and that we all expect, you know, to each and every student, you know, no matter what they bring to us, we do our best to serve them. So I just think it's a tremendous example um for the whole district and a
lot of fun and and it just continues. There was a a local uh organization um that were so moved by the gala that and they were so thrilled that Zenita Henry now has the um what is it a Genesis 90
that she's riding around in. She's still trying to figure out how to drive it. She said, "But it drives itself." So that's why work that hard. But these folks um from um the community uh shared that they felt it was too bad that the
rookie teacher of the year, you know, didn't get more acknowledgements. So, um the rookie teacher of the year, Miss Stephanie, was presented with a $5,000 check this morning um through McKenzie's >> moment >> through Mackenzie's moment. uh the Gray
family just such a beautiful testimony to the memory of of their daughter and just continuing to support. They were quite certain um that had their daughter survived that uh she would have been a student at Hillrest eventually. And so it just really touched them incredibly
deeply um what the culture is at Hillrest and how they really serve every child. Um, so yeah, it was a it's it's been a very moving couple of weeks for
sure and and so much um to celebrate and and I just look forward to all of the continued momentum. I'm glad that we've uh at least gotten our responses um taken care of on the superintendent's contract.
Look forward to getting the responses back from, you know, her legal folks. And I also wanted to thank you and your team um attorney powers for the work that you did behind the scenes so that uh each board member I'll speak for myself I felt very well prepared to have
the conversation so that we could be you know efficient and um get through it timely. So that worked out really well. I had mentioned this once before, but I will just now that it's looming. I will not be available at all for the February 19th work session sadly, and that's
unusual for me. So, I will miss you guys. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Reverend Cummings. >> Good morning again and good afternoon now um barely. Um very productive meeting again as well. Thank you, um,
Attorney Powers for our briefings on the, uh, contract and, um, I think those were very helpful for us making being able to go through this the way that we did today, um, in such an efficient manner. A lot of questions that we had,
we got addressed during those briefings and um, we knew where we were on certain things. A shout out to the um, Megan Magal and to the um, foundation. Truly, it was the gayla was uh, very extravagant. Um it was it was very
good. Very good. Um from the opening moment when the young lady came out and uh that's I think that's principal Pete's daughter um or grandma and everybody. So truly and it was just just a wonderful night. Um shout out to them.
They they they never cease to amaze me um on what they can do and what they are doing because every year it gets higher and higher. the bar goes higher and higher. So, um, thank you for that. I want to back up a couple weeks, um, because I didn't get a chance to acknowledge this, but a few weeks ago,
and Nancy, you were there, um, a few of us were over at the the grand opening of TLC's um, extension or what what would you call it, add-on. So, that's one of those um places in our community that deals
with kids um special needs and um I think all of us as board members are are welcome over there and and have a do some input or give some some input into there because a lot of the students that leave from Hillrest end up going to TLC.
So, um shout out to the TLC group as well. Um today um we we we talked about a lot of things and um concerning the superintendent's contract. I I'm excited to see what this new chapter is going to be for our
superintendent. Um, I think we we just cleared some hurdles today and it was good to see this was good for the community to see that we don't always agree on everything because I don't want everybody to think that we all agree on everything, but we don't all always
disagree on everything either. Um, I think the one thing that we do all agree on is that we want to do what's best for our district, for our school district, and for the students of this um this school system and the staff. So, um, I know I I'm confident that the people
that I work with on this DAS and in this administration and in our our attorneys and our CFOs and all those folk, I'm confident that we work with some great people who really really are working to make Marian County Public Schools the
premier district in Florida. I believe that. I see it from the bus drivers to the to the um to the uh custodians. Um we we have a unique district. And then um and I say that because yesterday I was at College Park um for their DARE
graduation and I saw uh even the people that were not in necessarily directly involved with the DARE program, they were there supporting the DARE program from the custodians, the the cafeteria staff, all those other people that
supporting cast that we often don't think about as being a part of the school. So, I appreciate that. And shout out to um Dr. Vonner and the College Park staff and SRO Woods. It was truly a good good opportunity to be over there at College Park for their graduation on
yesterday. So, I'm glad it's getting warm now. >> Well, go outside because it's >> not today. >> It's cold again. >> Oh god. >> It's probably cooled off 20 degrees since we've been >> Oh, don't say that. Don't say that. >> Um uh board member Conrad. Good
afternoon. Um, I want to start off. I'm just going to say a little bit because I don't think I can say it better than uh what Miss Thrower said, but our morning at Hillrest really was um amazing, uplifting, um, sentimental. I think she and I both
had tears in our eyes when we left Hillrest this morning. It was very moving. Um, and and rolling it back till to the gala on Saturday. Um, if you tried to email Megan anytime towards the end of the week and on, you got an automatic response. You know, they were
really geared up and getting everything ready for Saturday. And so, it's always so magical and uplifting. And so, I gave her a shout, you know, after the gay left, she was recovering. And I said, I just wish we could bottle that up so that on the hard days we could rekindle
that um energy and that um enthusiasm um because it it really is special and our district is is lucky to have the public edition and their dedication for not just our students but for our staff. And so just super grateful um for the work
and the relationships that word just keeps coming up. The relationships that they have um within the community that um expand to the reach to all of our schools and extend a helpful arm um when special
circumstances um present themselves. So just wanted to say a shout out for that. Uh I too am super grateful. I feel like we're over the hump now with the superintendent's contract. Um really want to say thank you to everyone, Attorney Powers, um Dr. James, you all
board really we ran through it very I feel like smoothly without too many hiccups. So um that was a real blessing um to kind of get across our side of the the first round finish line with the superintendent's contract. So I too am looking forward um to that moving forward. Um and the last thing I have is
I just wanted to share with the board. I spoke with um Dr. Brewer about it the other day. One of our last meetings, I asked about um the library circulation numbers um in correlation with our schools and school grades. Um as an elementary teacher, uh that's close to
my heart. And when I started looking at the numbers, I know you all received them um to it went out to everyone. Some of those numbers I was disheartened with. So, you know, though we have referendum dollars that support our
media specialists. Um, you know, my vision is that we have students going to the library every week um promoting literacy, giving them their opportunity to choose their books and read what they want to read. And so, I really um I I want to keep an eye on this uh because
we have some schools that their circulation numbers are really really low. We have some that are really really high too. So, I I don't want to just talk about the negative. Um we have some that are really really high too. Um but I really hope that we have um and this was important to Dr. Brewer too. Um that
we have some movement on several of our elementary schools and um one of the questions I you know do we have a media specialist at that school? The number is so low. Do we do we have a media specialist in there um to get those books into the hands of the students
which they so deserved. So board I just wanted to share um that's a concern I have. I I think um Dr. Brewer will be bringing some information or she may just maybe she'll just email us, you know, what that looks like. Uh but that's an important part of the conversation um as we look at moving the
district forward. And so that's all I have. >> Thank you, Board Member Conrad. Dr. Campbell, >> thank you. Um so many things have already been said, so I don't want to belabor too much of that. Golden Apple was spectacular as always. Thanks to all the team that worked so hard to put that together. And I'm gonna say to Miss
Deviling because that choir at the end, I honestly thought that they weren't actually singing, that it was just a track and then I realized I saw how many microphones were on students. It was that good. Uh so kudos to everybody who does a great job with that. I think that
was Kevin's 26th year or something being involved. Um also great work on our contract today. We've already talked about all of that. I I'll bring up a couple of things that haven't already been discussed. uh having the opportunity to serve on an early warning committee. I want to give a shout out to
Mr. White House and what we're doing in that work. Uh yesterday we talked a lot about data dashboard and it it really is a cross-section of a couple of different departments and it's it's good to have different eyes on things um and talking a bit about strategic plan moving
forward and portrait graduate and different things like that. And uh what I noticed and I think as we get more into the strategic plan from the data that is coming forth out of the handover research so many of the issues that the school district deals with are results
of the community and what is happening in the community that's apart from what we actually have control over. So the more we think about strategic plan moving forward as that starts to be developed, I think the more we're able to put in some metrics that really say
strong community engagement that we we can't be successful without partners outside of the community that are really helping us in lots of different fronts. the attendance numbers during our deep freeze in Ocala.
what I was very disheartened. Uh it's not it's not disappointment as much as it is really my heart hurt. You you guys are using that you know my it's a heart ache. It's a heart hurt that even you could see our
more affluent schools had better attendance and I think okay because potentially they were able to drive their child to school that day instead of having them stand out at a bus stop or whatever that looked like. And so it's it's not that I'm disappointed in
families that don't have an alternative. It's that I'm disheartened and my heart hurts for the students who miss school because it was too cold to stand outside and and so there's just a greater conversation about what that looks like. Are there church vans that can help out?
Are there like I I don't know what the answer is. I'm just, you know, as we get into into strategic plan and what those metrics look like. I'm excited for that conversation. So that is all stemming from the early warning committee yesterday. Uh a couple of quick things. Um FSBA members got two different emails
in the last actually today two different times today. So, um, February 18th, there is a webinar open to all FSBA members that is going to be with, uh, Scott Ward, the CFO in Lake County about the third calculation on the FEFP third
calc and what that means because it's obviously putting lots of people into tail spins when it comes to budget. Also, on February 19th, which is the day of our work session, um, we will be having the Crown Regional meeting in Putham County. Uh, that starts at 1:00. So depending on how that work session
goes that day, um may just get to that crown regional meeting late, but the um FSBA members got that invitation today if you haven't already RSVPd for that. And finally, I just had a quick question because uh it did it does seem like
something has changed and I noticed it whenever I was doing the board meeting telephonically uh and I'll be doing the next board meeting telephonically. So uh it would be helpful to know. So back in 2023 is when we started the Google doc for the board script and that was
something that was started whenever I was board chair and it's something we've been able to continue so that all board members can have access to it and see it as the board is board meeting is progressing and so even if something might be in the script that's inaccurate then we're like oh well going back and forth with what the agenda says it says
this and so it really has been helpful through the years to have all of us have at least an eye on that from time to time. I requested access to the board meeting. It has been denied. So I'm curious to know what's happened with the Google Drive because that is kind of a board document. So did we lose Google
Drive? Did we lose the I I don't know. I'm just provide context. We're losing Google in general. >> So all is going away the platform in general, which is a greater conversation, but Dr. Brewer is the sole person who restricted access. And so
the concern is multiple people being able to edit a document, >> right? So I requested as a viewer and I still did not get access. >> So I would send again send an email to Dr. Brewer. >> Okay,
that that answers that because I was trying today's work session agenda. I mean script isn't there and then the board meeting >> but it's all none of it is in Google anymore anyways. So getting act requesting access to Google is not going to gain you it because it is not in
Google. It is now in Microsoft Office. >> Okay. And is there a share function that we can all be working off of the same document? It because the the reason we moved into Google and maybe there's another option of where to put it. >> Well, Microsoft platform has the same exact
>> perfect sharability. So then we just need to have the ability to have access to what that looks like. >> So I Yes. And I think just Dr. Brewer giving a um read read only access to every everyone who can't edit it. There there's concern
about making sure that when edits are being made because essentially the way of work now is Miss Martinez Young completes it. She sends it to the superintendent to review and then it gets shared to the chair and it's shared
to the chair six days prior to the meeting so that there's more than enough time to review. So for instance I yesterday I received this the um script for next Tuesday. So once it's reviewed by the chair I don't know why it
couldn't be made available to the entire board in a readonly access. Her concern is that there there were honestly too many editable hands in the pot and it's it's hard from a accountability perspective to make sure who is accountable for
any level of error in the script. >> Sure. That's I I mean I I can completely respect that. I know that after I was no longer chair, I didn't have editable access in the Google doc. I understood that we were losing some functions of Google but did not understand we were losing Google Drive as as actually um so
if that's a part of what we're doing and not having access to Google Drive anymore. I know Google Classroom is going away but um and everything's been moving. Anyway, the whole purpose of why we started it the way we was so that all of us could see it and not have to make multiple copies of it printed out here
and so we could all follow along. And certainly if you have the ability to follow along whenever you're not present like this past week and the upcoming week, it's just helpful to be able to see where we are in process. I can I will talk to Dr. Brewer about making the the script available once because I've
already sent back like my minor corrections and approved it. So, she should be able to put it in the folder and then give you all access. That should be easy enough. >> Perfect. Thank you. That's all I had. >> Okay. All right. Um and just looking at the 19th agenda for um the draft agenda,
we have the interlocal agreement for 80th, which is going to be the roundabouts at Westport. Um which you may or may not have a ton of context on, but there's going to be all kinds of roundabouts at Westport now and no more lights. And it's a whole thing. um it was going to come to the board just as
an agenda item and after some straightforward discussion on my part, we've now made it a work session agenda item because I think the community needs to be very aware of exactly what the county's road work is going to look like and how it will impact the functionality
of one of our high school campuses for the better part of 18 months. So, um, that is item is on there and then the Wamina Park instructional calendar which we've been already sent is on there. Um, and then there's one other placeholder for just a vague
topic. So, I don't know if they'll be adding anything. So, um, okay. Uh, board, I'm going to pass something down. We had talked about um we have started a video series called faster facts which is recorded um on um
ahead of the board meeting and then obviously is published assuming that everything we think will be a non-issue is approved. Uh so after we've I've done the first three and so now I um I reached out to the whole board to ask if um who wanted
to participate in the recording essentially with the dates that are left based on um agenda um calendar invites we have for Miss Martinez Young. That's what I went off of. Um the this is um the rotation it gives everyone who wants
to participate five board. I would just ask if it's possible for you to look at your name and the five dates. Um, and if it makes sense to you and you should be able to participate, then I will share the fast facts recording calendar invite from the PR team with you. Um, and uh,
it's recorded at 4 PM. Yes, >> thank you. And I did receive the email, just hadn't had a chance to respond. And so, uh, my response is, I am happy to fill in for anyone that, uh, can't do whatever date is in their rotation. Um, I just didn't get back to you fast
enough. So, >> I can certainly edit it and add you if you want to be edited and added into it. >> Whatever works best. >> Well, >> I think it'd be great if you don't mind, Dr. James, because I think it would be nice and then the whole board would be represented. >> Okay. Well, I can edit it. So, the one thing I need confirmation on right now
is Miss Conrad, are you available next Tuesday? >> I'm should I'm not supposed to. I mean, I'm not going to be here. >> Oh, that's right. >> Miss Thrower can be >> Yes. Well, that's what I I was going to say that when she offered up. >> Well, I was trying to go in district order. >> Okay.
>> Vice chair district order just to have an order. >> And if she wants me to come in earlier, I could also do that. So, whatever's at the, you know, is best for everyone. >> I think I think it's going to be really important to respect the structure that's been created because it's been working so far. Um, and I I wouldn't
want to disrupt kind of the system that's been created so far. Um, certainly another chair can do it a different way if they want, but while I have control of the way it goes, I think it's important to just maintain that. So, um, uh, district
one, which was which is Yes. And then, um, district three is Eric. So, Eric, are you available at four o'clock on Tuesday? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, I will share the calendar invite with Reverend Cummings um for
next Tuesday at 4 PM and then I will redo the schedule um and I will bring it on Tuesday for everyone and then I'll just need you to confirm that those dates seem to work for your schedule. Okay. Okay. Um we've done great work
today. I'm grateful to have a productive board that can have productive conversation. Like Reverend Cummings said, we don't always agree, but we're able to um get to a landing point and get to a point where the majority of us are in agreement and and we're able to
move forward. I'm looking forward to the stability that finding a permanent superintendent will offer the district. Um and people feeling comfortable knowing that Dr. Brewer is here to stay for a while. Um, and I do think that I think we'll be able to find some some
common ground in the things that we've presented in our red line. Um, Golden Apple was amazing as always. It is a wonderful evening and definitely fills the cup. Uh, my husband came for the first time and it was um, it's always fun to watch a non-educator experience
the Golden Apple Gayla because he was looking at me at some points and was like wanting to figure out why I needed tissues. and you know we're just cry all the time anyways but um it was a moving night uh as it always is. So uh board I
remember that we do have an offair now uh two weeks from now at 7 a.m. So Miss Martinez Jang will get us that calendar invite and um we'll have a board meeting next Tuesday. And with that um just to confirm board member Thrower, Reverend Cummings and myself will be present in
person >> or >> next Tuesday. Oh yes, >> Marian County Day next Wednesday. >> Correct. >> Right. Okay. Wonderful. Because obviously we have to have three present for a for a quorum. So um All right. Well, thank you. Uh and just to confirm,
board member Conrad, are you can participating telephonically or no? I know that that's a challenge for you. >> I I will text you. Uh the telephonically is very difficult for me and so I will probably just discuss with our >> Okay. >> And then let you know.
>> Sounds good. Um, and you will be telephonic. Absolutely. >> All right, sounds good. Well, um, with that and there being no further business, um, I will adjourn this meeting at 12:28 p.m. Thank you.