good morning I now call the March 13th 2025 administrative briefing and work session to the mar County School Board to order at 9:00 A.M please silence your electronic devices to avoid disturbing others mirroring and modeling how our students begin each day I ask that you
please pause with us for a moment of silence please join me thank you um I would at this time I like I'd like to ask Dr Campbell to read our commitment statement for us thank you chair we are the Maran County School
District leadership team when we come together to work we are efficient effective and productive our three most important characteristics are dedicated transparent and individually responsible to work well together we must
demonstrate respect confront reality and be accountable we will always put students first we will leave a legacy of success thank you Dr Campbell good morning attorney Powers would you read the rules for the public work session
please absolutely thank you this work session is a public meeting as defined in Florida Sunshine Law the board is dedicated to full transparency in its meetings and its work in compliance with Sunshine Law the board has adopted uniform meeting procedures including the right for citizens to participate the
board will allow public comment regarding any work session item listed on today's agenda at the appropriate time speakers must fill out a request form located in the lobby and hand it to the board clerk after the board and superintendent have completed their discussion on a
particular agenda item the board clerk will call the speaker's name in the ordered each speaker will have three minutes as required by sunshin law the board must maintain order orderly cont conduct and proper decorum throughout this meeting speakers must be very careful not to violate the Privacy
rights of others especially students and their family members by mentioning their names or other identifying information thank you for your attention to these important rules thank you attorney Powers Miss Martinez please provide the proof of publication for today's meeting the notice for the March 13th 2025 work
session was published in the Ocala Gazette on February 28 2025 proof of publication have been attached to board dos under proof of publication thank you Miss Martinez we'll now begin the work session with the superintendent's administrative briefing good morning Dr Gully good morning Madam chair members
of the board I'll be very brief and then we have some esteemed law enforcement officials with us here this morning for our first item uh we know the spring break is coming students not yet that's after today so we're we're looking forward to having everybody um safely
return after spring break but board I do have one housekeeping item for you um previously at a board meeting um you discussed and I think it was Dr James had asked about some training for um principal certification and I said I would check on the National Institute for school leaders we did get a quote
board and you can let me know how you want to proceed for the school board to have an overview the cost would be $26,000 that would include um four-day offering delivered in two day sessions they can um adjust kind of how they how
they do the sessions but that would be the cost so you can think about it and get back to me but I did want you to know that they did get back to us with a cost if the board wants to proceed and is that the qualifications then sorry I was coughing is that the qualifications that would get then lead to the pr uh
individual having principal designation on their teaching certificate uh board member James I I would think yes because this came from Miss Harris she's the one that worked with um nissle on what those would be it's it's the overview I don't know
there might be additional needs um outside of this but this is that foundational piece that we have our principles go through for certification there may be additional requirements outside of that but this is one of the courses that our um principles do go
through I to get the certification okay yeah that what I'm looking to know is um to participate in starting in August is the the whatever is required for me to add principal designation to my teaching certificate and if that means I'm paying for it personally for it I'm paying for it personally but I think as an employee
of this District who has a doctorate and Leadership it is more than appropriate for me to get principal designation on my teaching certificate but um if I have to pay for on my own 26 divided by five I'll pay the what $5,200 but um I would like to participate that in
August that update concludes my my briefing this morning thank you so much okay good morning board as you know we we're looking at our contracts uh for SRO for the next couple of years um and you received um the financial piece of that
to look over but I ask the sheriff and chief to come in this morning because there's some things um I would like for them to share with you that we can't really put on paper so at at this time I invite Sheriff Billy Woods to come forward and and talk to us about um what
all you provide for us in this district and on our school campuses good morning morning um always a pleasure to see each and every one of y'all glad to be here this morning um Madame chair um you help me out what you're looking for what you would like
for me to speak on um in the direction I'm a little loss sure Sheriff I just wish that you would um elaborate on some of the conversation we had with Dr gullet a few weeks ago there are things um outside of the realm of just um
specific SRO Services um that you provide on campuses each day and I just wanted you to elaborate on some of those um okay um forgive me Madam chair but uh
I I think what we provide all of us provide not just myself but Chief bwan and chief Holland we each provide the uh necessary Services if if you're referring to what we're look looking at and let me just go go ahead and cut to the chase if we're looking at staying at
we are we'll be fine okay if you're looking at for me to take over each and every one of the schools we will be fine and I'm good with that um you know because I have been asked many questions uh about the whole uh
scenario regarding taking over each of the schools has it been a tack would it be a task absolutely I know that a couple of y'all have asked would I be able to fill the positions absolutely I will have bodies in each of the schools from the start of the school
year there will be deputies in each of the schools now where I've asked and we've had these discussions Madam chair you myself and Dr gullet uh is where I ask for patience is the permanent individual that'll be in there um as you
know principls teachers and and the students they get attached to their Sr regardless of who it is and which is a good thing and they should they build a relationship they build a relationship and knowing not just in trust whether it be uh Mike's
officer or or Terry's uh officer or my Deputy they build relationships um but having to hire somebody to fill these positions and get them in there permanently may not take a little bit longer than the three four
months now that I got left uh in order to uh put them permanent ones in there but the individuals will be in there uh some of the obstacles that have been brought up that I've heard let me knock them out U is concerns about if a call goes down and
communication um response times so and Chief bwan and myself actually this was myself and chief Graham late chief Graham uh talked about this many times uh in the scenario especially when we have to fill the schools when all of our
whether it be my deputies whether it be the officers that are out sick in the schools obviously we have to put somebody in there uh it's no different than we work details in the city limits what we do is we go to opd's
channel and the deputy is on the channel and that way if anything occurs in the city limits and currently and Terry correct me if I'm wrong um I believe we're having to fill for T's officer at the moment because of medical uh issues in
his own personal life but the fact is is that's a simple fix you know that's not a barrier that can't cannot be removed um and getting response to whatever the incident may be is I am more than
confident OPD would be there I'm more than confident that our staffs will work perfectly fine together in order to get uh to ensure that our our kids are safe in each and every one of the schools um ask questions that makes it easier for me okay all right for do you have
questions you'd like to bring forward um well I think that and this just might be this board member but if you haven't if if a Community member is listening and haven't reviewed the the scenarios then the things Chief is um sheriff is
talking about may not track because they don't know what scenar we're talking about because we've just basically said take it all or take um keep it as it is but we don't we didn't really recap the scenarios so I don't know if it'd be appropriate for maybe Mr mcfaden or
somebody to just kind of paint the picture real quick of what we're looking at I think Kevin would it be possible for us to pull that up um Sheriff Woods Chief Falon Chief Holland thank you guys for coming out this morning um we appreciative of you and everything that you have been doing
since we've been doing this um I think as as Dr James just said uh the community may not know what's going on and I think the whole reason why we're here is to state that we the cont it's time for a contract correct and so we
need to be very out outward with that so that because it it looks like nobody know what we're talking about right now and so the reason we're here is to to either renew the contract or to mod to come up with some ways that we can continue the work relationship that we
have um I I'm appreciative of all three departments and and and I'm hoping that we can continue to do that same way um some kind of way because I think there's value in each of your agencies being in our schools I think it it helps the community um building rapport with the
community um for OPD for D even though Dell I'm not Dell biew is one um it makes a difference and definitely have the sheriff's department in our school so um I think we just need to let the community know that because it's kind of looking kind of awkward us standing here
right now the way this conversation started I apologize I did not mean to make it seem awkward maybe it's because the conversation's been going on for quite sometime so that was not my intention at all yes we are here to review the contract we have three options uh that are presented before us
that we've been working on for quite some time with the involvement of the sheriff and the Chief and Mr mcfan so um if you take a look at the first um scenario we um we're looking
at what we currently have um and I don't know Bo do you want me to run through the basics of each scenario I think Mr mcf chief mcf that okay Mr mcfaden would you like to come good morning good morning Mr mcf
thank thank you maybe that's why you invite me up here I was going to tear things up um yes um as as the board stated uh we are currently in our three-year contract that started in 2022 and it'll
end June 30th of 2025 um last contract we did not go through this process uh we went through the approval process uh but this year the contract we wanted to review it a
little bit more because of the some of the unique dynamics that came with it so um again as of the 2425 contract we had 40 SRO with the mar County Sheriff's Office with one RoR we had 21 with the
okela police department and then we had one with the bevu police department they've all worked very well collaboratively together to keep our kids safe and for all the sro's throughout that contract there was a total of roughly
$4.9 million in SRO cost and the breakdown there is the sheriff was paying we were paying the Sheriff's Office $755,000 prar roll of the city of Ella 84368 and then the city of BW $
71,2 um so at moving forward we put together some scenarios for the 25 to 28 contract threeyear contract to uh renew the contract we saw some significant differences in the cost of the SRO so that's really where this conversation
started with um and with that the sheriff uh we remain as current status quo um moving forward with the sheriff's office we would need 41 SRO and one
maybe two or three rers because of the again the growing of the count the schol being built and again the sheriff has proposed that he could stay at $75,000 per SRO which brings his total to
375,000 around that amount uh the city of oel when we add the elementary school um for 22 sro's their cost would be roughly 95,000 a little over 95,000 and which would take their total
to a little over $2 million in the city of BW the first year would be 73,000 roughly $74,000 for their one SRO and what we done with the city of BW they um gave them increases each year 3% 3% and
a 4% to go up to a 10% total for the three-year contract that they would uh participate in scenario two this would be if the sheriff took over all of the sro's we would need roughly 66 of them again 64
SRO in the schools at $75,000 each and two three the rors couldn't vary you know one or two more than what we got because again deputies having to go to court just um different
things happening at the school Baker RS you may need rors to come in and help them so that again the 75,000 that be a slight increase that we had to add one or two rors but the total cost for that to excluding Noella police department
and the B Police Department with bring the total to 4 million 900,000 roughly $5 million and that's for again scenario number two in the 25 26 year and then the third scenario
would be um again the sheriff having SRO and all of the unincorporated areas of the county to include the elementary schools in the city uh with some rors and that BR um 53 SRO for the county roughly right
at $4 million the city of Oella police department will have all of the secondary schools that's middle and high schools at 95,3 197 per SRO and that total will be about $1.1 million and
then the city of biew will have an officer as well for the same 73 981 for one SRO and which that total for that year 25 26 and that third scenario will bring our total to roughly $5.2
million and that's again that's for 25 26 and so from there we just went out each year uh 25 26 27 26 27 27 28 and and the cost really they're all similar
but just goes up same scenarios and the only difference is the city cost will increase slightly because of the 3% 3% and the 4% increases for each year thank you for that overview Mr MC I
appreciate you um at this time would the board have any questions for Mr mcf um Mr mcfaden in your opinion do you feel like there will be a a difference in service if we were to replace the OPD
officers with MCSO deputies I don't think there'll be a difference in service I mean I think they work together now real close um when we look at the uniqueness and the Dynamics all of the sro's all the
schools are unique each SRO at these current schools now have a relationship with their current students and staff um and and I think again the sheriff and the chief can explain their reasonings behind what they feel as though makes
their officers um in these positions um again they're all qualified we strongly believe that obviously if anything happens in our schools we're not going to have a Parkland or youal and I've said that from the beginning we're going to have um officers deputies responding
appropriately to situations um being that we know that school shootings are in the big scheme of things rare it's the day-to-day uh concerns and issues that we make sure or they make sure that they take care of they are taking care of the
DCF calls they're involved in breaking up fights they're doing all of these things now um on a day-to-day basis they're doing their jobs so I don't see where it'll be a a big difference and because we don't have any issues with
what they're doing now thank you Mr mcfaden do we have any um issues with communication with two parties involved in and Reporting are there any communication challenges at this time not that I'm aware of I know the county just upgraded a lot of communication
that's radio towers and we as a district um use that opportunity replacing bdas in both Westport Forest I want to say dellan and possibly Lake we on although the radios are working just wanted that extra layer of protection to
make sure that if they go in the back of the cafeteria behind the uh freezer I don't care where they go on the campus that the radio will work unlike the situation that happened in Parkland where the radios weren't working um we remedy that um quite a bit to where we
don't have any issues now again the county working with them they upgraded the radio systems and as we done our test we were at like 50 some per reliability but as we went back through now we're upwards of over 90% reliability to meet whatever statutory
and best practice standards that we have so as far as radio communication at our schools it shouldn't be any whether it's a city county or B officers thank you um thank you Mr I'm I'm looking at
three scenarios and I I I appreciate the cost comparisons year to year but is there scenario that's that's possible and the reason I say that is because just knowing what the law
is we could um I'm thinking that there's another scenario let me say it that way and I think all the chap and the sheriffs know I'm talking about we if you're taking um if you're looking at considering removing the OPD from
elementary schools there's a scenario where we can have Guardians correct yes we haven't really got into that it's it's a lot um a lot of work there a lot of conversation a lot of obviously conversations with uh um the local law
enforcement agencies the staff the board the community uh those are scenarios that um we we we've not drilled down to get any type of real efficient you know effective data
yet although those are scenarios that we really in my opinion right now would feel comfortable discussing as a move forward so as a chief these are the three scenarios that you yes for for this um we're talking
about this contract that we're having the 25 28 contract and I think there's language in the contract that allows other options if if the board so chooses to go that direction and the reason I asked that about that scenario is because I
by law we got to have somebody in every school um I I often wonder um how I don't want to say this the wrong way um in the elementary school do we have to have a a
uniform Deputy OPD officer um officer versus someone else so that's why I ask that question um I'm also looking at it from FIS being fiscally responsible how to with those things
um we we we want every school covered but we want to make sure we doing it the right way we don't want to cost ourself out at some point because I can see that happen in the future thank you and thank you all for
being here today I have no doubts that we will never have a evaldi in Maran County and I'm looking at the people right here that I am 100% certain will never allow
that to happen due to the training you provide your officers due to the commitment you have to our children in this community and that whole situation just continues to weigh so heavy on me and while I'm all about controlling
costs I'm not willing to do that on the backs of our children or our School Employees I want the people with with the training and the law enforcement ideally that are closest to each specific Community
School to be the ones embedded there I in my mind that's what makes sense you know having been a teacher for so many years you know kids relate to the person that's there regularly sure sometimes a regular person gets sick and then a a sub is there so to speak but we all know
what happens sometimes um it's different for you guys because you're powerful figures but having that consistency having that uniformed officer in every school the opportunity that that presents to build
relationships with the kids to teach them that it's good you know to have a good relationship with the law um there's just so many embedded lessons in that that are worth a big old pot of gold in in my opinion um so I guess I
would be just interested if we're going to be focusing on these scenarios today what the recommendation is um from you uh chief mcfaden on on how to move forward for the next few years I know
that as each time this contract comes up there's going to be new elements to consider and and money is always one of them um and as a Fiscal Agent for the district you know I always look to our CF um but and I know you're here in the
audience good morning Teresa uh I would expect that these scenarios have been worked through and that you're fully aware of what's being presented so what that tells me is that whichever one we pick at least we're going to be able to afford it for the next few years so is
that an accurate statement okay thank you I see I had not so that's that's where I am sure thank you um so just where I sit right now um while I completely understand the necessary uh conversation
about the financial implications and um board member thrower just alluded to that other than the money changing if it's not broke don't fix it so I'm comfortable with scenario one as it
stands right now now um understanding that the only real change we see over the next three years from What scenario one is is that that one Belleview police Deputy receives a bit of a pay increase year
over year for three years and then we'll see that's where I sit and we'll see where we sit in three years from now the hope is that the legislature continues to increase our safe schools allocation categ oral as well as the referendum that we
have received did include school safety this time around so the monies can be allocated out of that referendum that would be an increase to what we have been paying for the last several years so that's where us
it yes Dr regarding the finances um I struggle I struggle with the idea that it cost 20,000 more dollars for a noala police department officer compared to a MCSO officer and I've had personal conversations with many people in the
audience so they're all very aware of how I feel about this but if and this is unfortunately for chief Balan he is not in charge of his money so he has no and I don't want to speak for you because I'm sure you're GNA come up but he doesn't have the discretion to decide um
like the sheriff does how much that he's going to charge us and so um I I do not agree that there should be a such a varying cost between the two agencies and I believe wholeheartedly
that safety in our schools is a community responsibility not a school responsibility if something God forsaken were to happen in our schools they're not just going to blame the schools actually what we see most is the person
blamed first is a law enforcement agency and these are our community students they are not our students they just happen to come to us for two meals and education um 180 days a year so I see this as a community cost and I struggle
greatly with paying $20,000 more per officer in the City compared to the county and there is essentially we have to decide what that cost value is and is keeping the same officer in the place um in those schools for the next three
years um worth the amount we're going to pay um and I'm not sure I'm at a at a confident decision yet but my heart tells me that I believe the city should be paying what the county is paying so that's where I sit on cost mam chair yes sir this this will be
my last time say anything on this this will be my last time probably speaking on this at all today um we have to look at costs and I'm I'm a proponent of of safety no matter what
the cost is because you can't put the value on a life um and if we're going to move forward with these three scenarios um just so Chief Falon and chief Holland and Sheriff W I'm I'm I'm I believe that scenario one is the best
scenario I'm agree with with Dr Campbell that if it's working let's keep it working um I'm sure we can afford this it's going to again there is a significant increase as Dr James says for uh opds officers
however I understand there's a different dynamic as far as retirements and benefits and different things as far as what the city has and and he doesn't have the leeway that uh Sheriff Woods has from the county so um if we're going to do
this for me and I'm through with it one would be the way that we were to go thank you board Mr mcf do you have anything you want to add no ma'am I think um I think there's there's an opportunity to have some further
conversation with Chief Balan and his staff about the calls and maybe some conversation with obviously like you said it's not him doing that in his department is more of the you know he don't have that flexibility so I
wouldn't make a recommendation today but maybe after a conversation with them after a day or two that I could give a recommendation if but there's some there's some areas in the contract that I feel is that we can kind of work on as far as uh the
overtime uh budget that they got in there which is roughly our share of it is over $3,000 per SRO and from my understanding we're not receiving that overtime service because we're still
paying $65 for special detail football game basketball games sporting events graduation and I don't know if we're really benefiting and receiving the overtime service that's embedded in the contract so that's further conversations
that we have to have with the city of Ella to see how that works out and maybe that cost could come down just you know a little bit I'm not saying a whole lot understand this the Chief's position but that's something that we can discuss further it's the overtime that's invaded
in the country when when will you have those discussions I immediately after this year I can call the chief on major Str but I've been working with her real closely and again it's it's not the chief's decision he has to get that to the counil go back to the council to get
approval to make any adjustments to the contract M thank you I'm on same playing field as board member James on this one um I do understand the the dynamic and I'm glad you mentioned um board member
Cummings about who the decision makers are you know when it comes to each person's budget and I'm of the exact same mind that you know these are the community's children you know if we know if they're TR from school what are they
doing in the community you know that we all share the responsibility and and and bear the burden so anything that the and I'm sure the city council's listening right now but any anything that the city council uh is willing to to review and and through you
bring back um to the board I would be very grateful to entertain thank you board um Sheriff do you want to now come back that we've had some discussion and then Chief I'll I'll have you up next thank
you thank you madam chair I appreciate it pardon me frogging the Thro uh first of all again I want to apologize uh now that I got a clearer picture of what y'all are looking for let me um let me start off like this because I know I have not had a conversation with
everybody in the room um I've had conversations with a handful of y'all so let's start with this let's take the money out of it take the money out of the scenario okay now let's take the School District
or this scenario out of it being specifically towards the schools and sros in any Dynamics regardless of what it may be the perfect scenario is one entity that oversees something not
multiple okay it's as simple as that now that does that mean anything else doesn't work no does not mean that that's your Bas best case scenario here that's one of the scenarios in which we're talking about one entity
overseeing the entire thing that's the best case scenario second best which is not really necessarily any less than the first is when you have more than one agency working
together now unlike in brow County there was way too many agencies in that scenario which resulted in that tragedy now here for us I'm here to assure you and anyone else that is listening
today that I have more than full confidence in Terry Holland and Mike bwan of ensuring that keeping the safety of the kids as a priority I have no concern of it whatsoever and our
relationship regardless if I ever get pissed off at Mike ban that scenario will never this is rarely do I make promises and this is one where I
will I will never allow our disconnect to affect the safety of the kids in this County never that is a promise I will give you standing here before you today now when we begin to get outside of those two that's when you begin to
muddy the water and it begins to lessen and I'll talk about board member cumming's scenario that is not the best scenario might be the cheapest but it's not the
best the fact is is the guardian program and some people have got a misunderstanding of what the guardian program is okay the guardian program program is your employees being trained by a sheriff in order to be allowed to
carry a gun onto a school grounds also in that program is hiring a security company and I have to train them I know it tell it before yall I don't have a choice like I did in the beginning each of us sheriffs are required to train them because it's
in statute you get what you pay for I'll be polite and I will not demean them in any shape where or form but there is no security company on this planet that will rise to the level of law enforcement and their dedication and
service to their communities none that scenario has not been tested that scenario has not been challenged when somebody walks on the campus I don't know about
y'all I do not want to be the guinea pig in that scenario whether it works or not what sums up here well let me before I get to this point and it hasn't been just in this scenario it has been I'm dealing with
dellen right now as well and I hear from people the services I worked at OK calip there's dedicated individuals at okal sherff for going on nine years now
dedicated employees in my office but what I find unfair is those that have never had my deputies service them say I will not get the same level of service it's a little unfair I find it offensive because the fact is you don't
know until they're in there now you have a uniqueness in this scenario because you get both sides now I will say this and I'm pretty sure these two will say the same thing if there's ever been a non-service or a problem and you haven't told one of my
staff why not and then if you did tell my staff and nothing was resolved with my deputies why didn't you make a phone call to me to address the issue because in order for any one of us three to
solve a problem I got to know about it I don't make assumptions that everybody out here doing wrong so in essence what does it boil down to what I ask you to take
out and you're right you spend every dime that you have to protect kids now is that dime that you're spending and the service in which you're receiving
change that scenario your service ain't going to change that I can promise you now if you're going to ask me personally which no one truly has asked a question because I can tell you what Michael say I can tell you what Terry
says because they have value there's value in it there's value of them having ownership into their officers being in the schools there's absolute value there there is I can't deny it and I won't deny it does that mean that my deputies work
less than them no does that mean they work better than them no but there's value for each of them so coming back to what I asked you to take out that's what this scenario is is what you want to
spend and you get the same law enforcement is law enforcement don't get me wrong we've got our Das and I saw the eyebrows when I used aot little language there a minute ago so I held back on that one but the fact is is the service is
going to be there no matter what and if you truly what you do you're dedicated to the education of of these kids you should be that's your passion that's where you should be directed your passion also should be
protection of the kids and it is there I see it in each of you I talk to y'all I know it's there and just so that's on the table the difference between myself and chief Balan and chief Holland
I answer to the citizens of Marian County I don't answer to a five board members hey Sheriff let me refree that not me a sheriff I'm just Billy Woods I'm just some dummy that happened to get lucky and got into position but the truth is is that a
sheriff's ability flexibility is what makes the sheriff unique and it allows me and I will agree with board member James is what I do believe I do think that there needs to be a fair share
cost okay really does truth is the taxpayers pay for some schools taxpayers pay for the services in the county and you need to pull some Solomon wisdom split the
baby so not one side is having to Fork out all the money or more than the other side is both need to share and that's pretty much what I have done in this contract I've split my cost
as best as I can for then and looking to the Future now will that change the odds are pretty good but not while I'm sitting in the seat because as we know what I was paid in the beginning when I was hired ain't the same thing what the officers are being paid now so that changes over
time and it will change everybody needs to come to that realization it will change eventually not for me because I say good and I have that ability to make that determination are we good when we sit
the way we are now yeah we're fine we communicate we talk to each other y'all already know we have breakfasts we vented out some of y'all have been there the truth
is the decision is yours at this point now he can go negotiate you can ask him for this and that bottom dollar is what you want to spend for exact same service I'll leave
it thank you Sheriff we appreciate you being here with with us this morning um Chief Balon for the record Mike balkin oal police chief and good morning thank you for allowing me a few minutes to to speak with you all this morning uh let me start out by saying I certainly
certainly understand the financial concerns regarding these SRO contracts I'm not going to bore you I think you all are are smart enough to know how my budget process differs from the sheriff uh and how it involves city council I'm not going to waste your time with that uh I am going to stand here today and
tell you that I absolutely do believe that all of our city schools should be staffed only by city cops I say that for different reasons I agree with the sheriff on just about everything he says but um you know I think the most important uh
reason obviously that we have school resources on a campus is to is to deal with an armed as salent in in 2025 right I think we can all agree with that um that is their most important function but our city of voal police officers serve as school resource officers this
is not to take away from the sheriff's office I have a tremendous amount of faith in my brothers and sisters in green um but I have a vested interest in keeping our cops in our city schools they're in there building those positive relationships that you talked about Sir
um with our kids are developing and implementing crime prevention strategies they're providing mentorship on a daily basis and forgive me I'm getting over a cold uh they're working every day with our Patrol officers and our detectives sharing information back and forth on
potential offenders on known criminal activity on potential opportunities to prevent crime from ever even occurring on your campuses that's the that's the gold star here right that's the that's the the Blue Ribbon that's what we're trying to do uh and there's also Daily opportunities for them to share intelligence across not only my agency
but with with the Sheriff's Office denell and uh bellw as well uh you know stepping back many of you know me uh certainly professionally some of you personally you know what I stand for you know how I run our organization in the city of Okala you know our a what
our agency does within the community uh especially within our communities of need and especially when it comes to our youth you see us out there I believe you you guys have to know that I only want what's best for our kids here in not only Okala but greater Maring County I believe that
what's best for the kids of Okala is to have SRO that has a truly vested interest in not only occur what occurs on school grounds during school hours but what also uh occurs in the surrounding neighborhoods I believe they should have a vested interest in not
just the kid but the family and the neighborhood nearby uh and we do a good job I think of of uh looking after that and ensuring the O overall welfare of the entire school and thereby the entire Community um and I'm this isn't a knock on anybody I'll say I'll say it like
like this I think if you took one of my city officers and put them in Fort McCoy I don't think I'm going to get the same return on investment as it relates to that surrounding that holistic approach to what at least I'm trying to accomplish in the city I'll say that um
as it relates to the you know to those that that are out there watching right now the average taxpayer when we talk about the finances I do think it's important to note uh that those tax dollars are already spent have already been secured from our taxpayers this is all about which of money this is coming
from to uh to pay for these officers or these deputies right is it are you going to pay it is the city going to pay it or is the sheriff going to pay it that's really what it comes down whose bucket is this coming out of I certainly understand that this is a big increase for us uh and it comes at a at an inopportune time for me we're are
dealing with an upcoming uh Union contract that we're currently uh about to go into negotiations with we're trying to hit a moving Target uh I can assure you that what we absorb currently as it relates to number that you all don't see right you don't see what we're
absorbing in the cost of just the supervision uh that's needed for the school res resource officers that we currently have that's two sergeants and a lieutenant that's way way north of $300,000 alone uh the city also absorb the absorbs the cost of SRO on campus
during uh summer school which is not included in what uh what you're charged we don't charge you for that Rover position that we need when my officer calls out sick and I have to pay somebody overtime and and and certainly Mr mcfat and I can have that conversation but these are these are
real numbers that I I only have so much wiggle with and I wish I wasn't the squeaky will in the room uh I have no doubt here's what I can tell you for sure I will agree with the sheriff regardless of what your decision is we're g to make this work these kids in
this County are going to be safe if it's a deputy at my school they're the sheriff's right they're going to be on my radio channel and when they key up and ask for help every cop in blue in the city of include the chief is going to that school and they're going after the active as salent and I have no doubt
that he has no doubt we we did it at Forest High School and we're going to do it in Belleview and we're going to do it wherever the knee takes us so uh first and foremost is the Safety and Security of our kids regardless of what you all decide I just I do believe there's more to this um uh than dollars and I believe
there's more to this a role of an SRO than standing there wait on waiting on an active ass salent to walk on campus there's much more certainly for me Dr James to your point uh I I certainly get it I don't I don't think you get the same uh level of service and I don't
mean that uh to talk uh uh uh against the sheriff I just think again if you take my my cop and put them in Fort McCoy um and they don't have a vested interest in ensuring that the chief of police is happy with their service not just on the school campus right not just
during school hours but holistically I think it's a little bit different I want that control I want to maintain that control over what happens in the schools in the city all the faith in the world in the Sheriff's Office all the faith in the world in his deputies that they're going to do the right thing um I I the communication as it relates to a
response uh for an active as salent hands down we're going to get that right every time do I think that we're going to share criminal information uh intelligence information crime prevention strategy information back and forth between his deputy and my zone officers that are running the road
there's no way hell that's going to happen I apologize for that but that's just not it just doesn't work like that um but rest assured the sheriff and I Chief Holland are committed to making this work with Mr mcfaden regardless of what you decide we're going to make this uh work our kids are going to remain
safe whether we stay in those schools or not I'm certainly happy to try to answer any questions you might have thank you Chief or do you have any questions for chief PA say that there's um I appreciate you coming in and adding to what we were
talking about because um I see that value of your officers being in school for the same reason that you say for mentorship for um for building report for Community Support um
recently I was at a a school City school for there um those programs that's a lot of stuff that we don't talk about that happens through SRO and our um our law enforcement in the school so I see that value so that's why I say what I'm
saying and Sheriff Woods I didn't ask for that scenario to be a um to be obstinate I asked for that scenario because I just wanted everything on the table because it's going to come from the community that that is an option so not that would not would that would not
been my option at this point but I want everybody if we're going to have a community conversation let's have a conversation and just put it out there but um I thank y'all for coming out this morning and I again I've said where where I'm at I think um I think the
community knows where we are with this and what we need to do there is you can't put a again you can't put a price tag on on a l you can't and definitely not a kids life and I I think that all all three agencies are going to do a tremendous job because you already have done a tremendous job I remember the incident last year in Mar
Oaks it wasn't just Sheriff's Department that showed up it was everybody that showed up and that's what it's supposed to be everybody show up um when when the when the lights go off everybody's supposed to be there and so I appreciate you guys for that and um I don't think we got to keep talking about all this
stuff that's we been spent about an hour on it I think we need to keep moving and I think everybody knows where we are yes sure I'll I'll just it's not a question Chief you're you're welcome to have a seat uh just again I I reiterate
the point that was being made about scenario one uh the district one seat and the house that I live in is in the city of Okala and I probably am the only board member that can say that I understand the services that occur within the city uh that are different
and we pay for those as City residents but I also understand the uniqueness of living within the city of Okala proper and the density and the population within the city limits that are unique to other parts of
the county certainly we have density in other areas Silver Spring Shores Maran Oaks there there's other population centers within the community but the uniqueness of the city of Okala I see value in having those officers in those
schools with those students who also live within the city limits another comment was made about potentially The best scenario being all operating Under One Roof per
se I think that's an argument to be made in multiple different scenarios and so it's tough to say that one is better over what we're doing right now right now there are two fire rescues there are multiple law enforcement offices there
are two 911 call centers there's a reason for separation that others Within jurisdictions uh have seen the reason for separation and if those are going to continue to stay separate then I also agree that
Maran County Public Schools needs to consider this as scenario one where we keep some of these responsibilities separate and at least for the next three years continue to keep it the way it is if there seems to be at least three
board members up here that agree with scenario two I am not one of them but there are at least three we still have a board number we haven't heard from if there are at least three that would say scenario two is the best option my only request if that seemed to be the
direction we would go is that that $75,000 from the Sheriff's Office be a locked in number for at least five to 10 years we've seen that $75,000 number for at least two contract cycles and so that
increase isn't seen in at least the last three years and so we potentially locking it in for another three if we were to go in that direction I would request that the the salary of $75,000 be locked in for an extended period
Beyond just this three-year contract and then that could be a conversation to be had I still believe scenario one is the best option for our schools member Campbell I just want to add I appreciate Chief Balan sharing his thoughts and I
my students attend my students my children attend a city school right in the Heart of the City and so um you know their officer officer morz she's retiring this year but she's been there for a very long time um and candidly the conversations we've had are that she
makes a lot more even than the 95,3 197 um and so understanding absolutely there are added costs and I maintain that I think that we should share those all together this community should share those um and so regardless of how this board proceeds
whether scenario one or scenario two I am fine with either I don't think scenario three is necessary I think we need to do one or two whatever that looks like but my request would be one if we make a decision today I want this board to agree this would be my hope
that the chair if there's any level of negotiation that occurs after this on the number as long as it goes down and not up that we are giving the chair the discretion to make that decision and then see this on a board agenda because with either scenario these gentlemen um and ladies have some work to do and I
want to ensure that we're setting them up for success and then um I had another thought and it just lost me um oh uh my my second request would be in two years
from now I want to start this conversation it is putting if we go with scenario two it is a very short time frame to see a change and if as Reverend comings discussed an option that wasn't presented today is
going to be an option on the table in three years from now that is still a heavy lift for this District to step into and so having this conversation in April ahead of the start of school in August is too short of a time frame and so if that is the case if we are going
to go in any different direction I want to see this conversation start 12 months out so that all agencies the school board we all have more than ample time to discuss this and get to get to go so that everyone has the time they deserve
so those are my two requests um either way thank you yes thanks yes the the sooner it it comes to the whole board's attention I know that there's always conversations that occur behind the scenes but we don't know what anyone else is saying
because of sunshine laws and and this is such a Lynch pin for our community that the the sooner that we can have some numbers and and begin the conversation is is always better you know I just wrote down you know a couple notes as as Chief falcan was was speaking and you know when a school shooting happens the
whole Community suffers it really at that point doesn't even matter it's secondary to who was in charge the whole Community is is suffering um and in my mind prevention is is much better um than Crisis Intervention and a lot less
expensive and I will continue to share that um ownership of of school safety is everyone's resp responsibility but but the agencies that are the closest to the community's schools uh to me just in a fundamental way that's what makes the
most sense so I I think it's important if we could um to try to get to consensus today um I don't know if I see you nodding so hopefully you agree and I'm seeing appetite for for one and two
so I would say between those two I would go with one for this cycle I yeah thrower um Chief balcan and Sheriff WS I just want to say thank you uh we have kept
you here an hour this morning which was was not my intention I'm uh we got off to a little bit of a bumpy start again I apologize for that but I am truly grateful uh that you all are here this morning to have this conversation with us and um I'm just going to reminisce
for a second because this contract even though it is a community issue and it's close to our heart to me it is personal um when I was at NH Jones we we had a lock down there with that was called in as an active
shooter which thank goodness it wasn't I have never been prouder or felt more secure from the reaction that came from our community and our Law Enforcement Officers I believe we had law enforcement on campus in a minute and 20
seconds Chief you'll have to check that time for me but it was it was super fast and I was a teacher on the very outside classroom um of the school campus right against the road and so um you know it's it's frightening even when even when
something terrible doesn't happen um and it's it's challenging especially when you're working with young children and so I just want to thank you both uh for the work that you do every single day um not just the major em and uh
Mr Joiner out there I see you and he answers my calls and so I I'm just grateful for all of you and thank you for being part of this conversation and sharing the ins and outs of what you have to do um each day and board I do think um it's important for the timeline that we do come to consensus um I was
trying to take notes that you all were were talking um Dr Campbell I I've got you for scenario one we're using um all agencies Reverend Cummings all agencies board member thrower all agencies and I am in favor of using all
agencies so and Dr um Dr James you ended up either one or two yeah I'll support I'll support the direction of the board okay I just want to see us be very proactive on a timeline in two years from now okay thank you Dr James um so Mr mcfaden I think um you've got enough
information to move forward the board does agree that this scenario number one um is what we would like to do moving forward um using three departments to cover the Safety and Security of our schools okay thank
you thank you gentlemen thank you and ladies is there any public comment okay seeing none we'll move on to our next agenda item uh MTC radiography
program and update Mr small Ridge is here Dr Brewer I saw him tap you on the way are you coming down too okay thank you I thought I was next I mean I thought I was after somebody else so I apologize I'm quite ready I'm also
getting over being a little bit sick so excuse my voice um but good morning uh chair Conrad board members superintendent Dr gullet um I'm here today to talk about a notice of intent that we turned in with the
state but rather than just talking about the notice of antenna I really need to explain the program that we have that's very unique in the State of Florida talk about the history of it a little bit and then talk about the danger and trouble that it's kind of in and then come back
around to the notice of intent I don't know if you guys realize but our radio geologic technology program at MTC is the only one that exists at a Technical College in the State of Florida and it goes back into the 70s I don't know the exact year that
it started but I believe it was somewhere around 78 and I do know that my sister-in-law took the program in 84 so I can verify that it goes way back and um the program itself right now is a
career certificate program and and the history of this program is obviously goes way back but sometime around 2006 the the U certification agency the one that does the CT test started
talking about requiring the students to have an A two-year degree or higher to sit for the State Licensing so that's kind of kind of set the stage for the story but I do want to go through what a certificate program is compared to what an AS degree
in radiography program is so the program that we have is a 2-year 2,700 clock hour program and it is accredited by The Joint Review Committee on education and radiologic technology and the program was just reviewed our
program was and we're on an eight-year award and we're up for review again in in 32 so we're in really good standing the program is one of the best most successful programs in our district there are two other um colleges that
offer this program our credentialing exam pass rate for 2019 through 2023 is 94.8% that's outstanding we just got back 24's data I did not add it into it didn't feel like going back and changing
it but I will share it with you um the 2024 pass rate for our group our cohort was 100% in all three C category so would actually bring up the percent just a little bit and our job placement rate has pretty much always been 100% because
the community really needs these these um employees they need more to be kicked out by our colleges in the local area which is going to be part of this presentation the the placement rate is exactly what it sounds like how many of our students get jobs and then the
completion rate is how many of them that go past that add drop date actually complete the program and so we're doing a good job of choosing the right students they're finishing our program and they're passing the state licensing test now I mentioned 2006 because
students um back then the arrt is the the agency that gives the Florida credentialing exam they decided in 2006 that they were going to require that 2-year degree or hire to sit for the for the State Licensing well that's going to
be an issue for a institution like ctae it was called back then um so the college or the the career center it was an MTC back then partnered with the local um college and and the career
center gave all the professional courses and then the other um the college did all of the PRX and the um and the general education classes they did all that work so 2006 key is a key year because that's when they started talking
about requiring the students to have that degree but but they didn't actually enforce it until 2015 which I did a lot of research on it and it was like wow did they really talk about it that far out and then they decided to make the students have it they they started
enforcing it in 2015 is what I found so um from 2006 through 2015 MTC students ctae back then took the professional coursework at now MTC and the general
education and prere coursework was um with the local state college and then the local State College awarded the associate degree that's how the partnership worked that's how all of the students came out with the professional work and the college classes to get the
as degree now um that changed that that happened up till um 2015 now what happened in 2015 is that the local State College they decided they went their own way they were starting their
own program and there was some issues with accreditation with their sacks there was some issues there and they they dropped the partnership with um ctae back in the day and so the only choice of action that now MTC had to do
was we could only recruit students that had a two-year degree or higher to to keep our program open and I I believe everybody thought the program would not continue and that it would close um because you could not recruit as easily as a state college
that was going to offer the as degree so the only way around the state requirement for licensing was to just recruit students with a two-year degree or higher so I call that we're behind the eightball so we're not on Level Playing Field when it comes to recruiting so the as degree in rad in
radiography is what the local state college and most of our state colleges offer we can't offer that because we have a certificate program which is why we the U State aboard program approved program for a technical college is radiologic technology it's a certificate
only the key issue is that the licensing is the same the jobs that our students in the local state colleges that the students that they produce they get the same jobs and they're making the same money so there's not really a difference other than we have to take in students
that already have a two-year degree so um our legislature and our governor approved the process of tech colleges starting as degree or AA degrees so it made a lot of sense for us to go after this opportunity so the
doors open uh we wanted to go for it and because it makes perfect sense we're kind of a unique situation because we're the only Tech College in Florida that offers this program we're grandfathered in the actual Frameworks that's listed on the doe is only for Mar and Technical
College to offer the radiologic technology certificate program so while that window is open and it's law that we can pursue and um actually give out an as degree U we we wanted to go for it so that's what I want to describe now is if
we switch over to the Associate in Science and radiography I want to describe what that program would be and how we would deliver it it would be still a two-year program it would be 77 college hours 58 eight of those hours would be the professional coursework that we already give and then we would
be offering 19 general education and prerequisite hours to get us to the 77 that we would be able to issue an associate of science and and radiography Maran Technical College would offer the Gen Ed and prerequisites online and then we would be the one
awarding the degree so that would be the difference in the program and then the the most important point for me is that it would would be the for the first time since 2015 students without a degree could be recruited to our program at Marion
Technical College it would put us on a Level Playing Field and that cohort that from 2024 that I said I didn't include in the in the presentation that cohort stands out and is a very key point there was only seven
students that went into the cohort the very first year I was at Marian Technical College and they now we got you know two years later they graduate and then we got their uh pass rate and so forth and their job rate placement rate and it was 100% I want you to think about seven
seven students is not enough students we need to be taking in 16 to 20 students every year to have a balanced budget 15 barely pays the bills 16 you're starting to make not a profit but we could actually do some things to buy you know
enhanced um new equipment and stuff for the program but 20 is a able number because you're going to have some attrition and if you can if you can recruit 20 and you have a couple drop out or fail out you can still be in really good standing so my first year was like wow seven we might actually
have to close this program and hired some hired a new staff member made it very clear to them that we have to recruit better and the next two cohorts were 16 and above and the good news about next year is we already
have 16 that it looks like we're going to at least 16 for the next cohort so we're in good standing but the thing I wanted to explain to you guys was the history behind this program we're the only one in the State of Florida that has the program as it is we can't recruit the
way that we should be able to recruit because of the unique situation and now we have the opportunity to go after an as degree and by the way that would make Maring County Public Schools if if successful in this approach that the only uh the first district in the actual
state that would give out an as degree we're we're the we're the only one right now that's even turned in a notice of intent to the state so I wanted to give that history um I will tell you that the local state college has the
same program so there there is a little bit of an issue of I've heard people say well we're not supposed to compete against them and you know we shouldn't start a program that they have we had it first and I want you to really understand understand that because you're going to hear that we had at first the the local State College made a
decision to start their own program we didn't go away we hung in there we fought and we kept our program going and now we have an opportunity to offer the same program okay now the um the process and flow of
getting from where we are now to an as degree is now on the screen that you're seeing um the so the career center which is US MTC submits notice of intent at least 100 days before submitting the proposal to the division of career and adult education and I put timeline
starts January 7th because that is when we officially turned in our current notice of intent to this department so the the clock started on January 7th we've already done that then the um dcae has 10 business days to forward that
notice of intent to the Florida college system and then the Florida colleges system announces the notice of intent back to the Florida college system institutions mostly our state colleges they're going to get that notice and they're going to be told here's the notice of intent and then they're put on
notice that they now can turn around and submit objections or alternate proposals to the DCA within 60 days so that's kind of where we're at we're on that end of that 60-day period they I'm sure that the state colleges will
say they object um and and I through some of the communication they'll probably say that there's not enough jobs in our area to take the placements of all these students but what I don't understand and I've already kind of explained it is we're not trying to create another coort we're not trying to
create a larger cohort we're not trying to create a new program we existed first in our community we're just trying to fill our cohort each year we're not trying to expand it and we have 16 next year without this without this possibility of having the as degree ree
um we originally tried to get this going early enough that we could even offer the as degree in August but we've kind of been delayed a little bit so and I'm fine with that I just want it to happen don't care if it happens in August or if it happens the following August as long as we can get the school to that to that
stage then we'll be on a Level Playing Field so uh the career center um then if we survive past the 60 days and and and the um the college system puts its objections if they object to it and I
think they will the process after that is I have to respond to the objections and show why it's not correct and I'm I'm assuming that they're going to say there's not enough jobs because Career Source numbers in our local area Maran Citrus Levy does not show um enough it
shows 27 28 openings per year and then you start adding up the three institutions theoretically the numbers with Career Source looks like there might not be enough placements in our area not true Career Source numbers aren't even close to being accurate I've got letters from all the hiring agencies
all the big hospitals imaging centers that gave us support letters that we sent with our notice of intent to the state to show that they're begging for more students our local State College the private institution that's in town the college plus us we're not supplying
them enough of the students that they need to hire into these positions because they don't just h hire them into radiologic technology um positions they're hiring them into similar positions and training them on the job as well they're they're they're really
seeking our graduates so I already know how I'm going to defend that objection but it I haven't received the objection yet if we get through all that then we send our proposal which describes um each of our class hour for our fit or 77
actual college hours we describe all of our general aded requirements our our prerequisites and how we're going to deliver that each term and we have that pretty much finished and we're ready to turn that in if we get to that stage so then we would then um send them our
proposal and then they submit then the DCA submits written analysis to the commissioner and the commissioner within 45 days recommends approval or disapproval to the State Board of Education and then we're notified by the State Board of Education
what the decision is one of the key things that I want you to understand is that we would not remove our certificate path for our students that come in and apply with us it would still be an option so students could come in and say well I already have a degree I don't need to go for an as I just want to go
through your professional courses and just have a certificate sit for the state test we still have that path open and then then the the great option is that we could recruit students right out of high school or someone that's never gone to college and even taken a gened requirement we could recruit on a Level
Playing Field and we would fill our cohort and have a waiting list for ad drop ideally you take 20 students in you have two or three on a wait list for if someone drops during ad drop we slide them right in and we run we run on but we don't have that luxury right now
because we have to recruit students that already have a degree so that's where we're at I'm very excited about it um it's been a long process and and a lot of other Tech colleges are kind of waiting to see what happens here but they there's other colleges about to
turn their notice of intent in so I'm hoping that they will that they'll get theirs turned in and and we could also team together as a network of tech colleges and we could like I could offer a couple of the gened requirements online maybe another tech college is a
little bit away could take a couple of those Jed and we could work together on supplying those um those teachers and working together those jet we did have we did have a um part of the process that slowed us down a little bit was our first notice of intent we had a
partnership with a another state college that was excited about working with us they were going to um offer the Jed and the PRX online and then our students as they graduated could go into a bachelor program with them but they they dropped us there was a lot of pressure there's
some pressure out there from the state colleges not to help us and uh and that's that's a little bit natural um I don't want you to think they're all being just mean but if you think back when I was coming out of high school we had community colleges we didn't have a state college in our area Lake County
you didn't have a state college you had a community college and if you think of the progression of how we've grown in education the community colleges started offering hey let's offer some Bachelor degrees and let's step up from just AA and as degrees and I call it they grew
up to the state college level right well who did they receive opposition from the universities the universities didn't want them doing that don't step on our our territory right so the universities were the big guy the Community College was were the small guy and they fought
it and they fought it but the state the the the community colleges stepped up to State College level and they're doing a great job for us offering Bachelor degrees and higher level education and they didn't put this the universities out of business and the tech colleges are not going to put the state colleges
out of business but they're a little nervous about it so there's some push back and there's going to be some opposition but I'll roll my sleeves up and fight a long fight so I'm ready to go um any questions questions from the board yes
uh I just have a comment I know that I was one of the board members that requested you to come before us and give this update and I am grateful that you did because it paints a beautiful picture and just before you the sheriff was talking about you know we do we want to be the guinea pig for Guardians we do
and for Guardians maybe we don't but for this we do we want to be the first 110% I want to be able to say that Maring county is the first county in the state with a technical college offering gen ads and an AA program and so I am excited about this I believe that this
is what's best for our students I personally have someone in my life who works with my family she was a graduate from U North Maran and she is now at CF and she is um attract for radiology I don't know one
of theologies and she would be a perfect candidate for MTC um CF is is not exactly doing exactly what I think she hoped it was and she's having a bit of a hard time in a smaller environment would be better for her and this I just see her as a perfect candidate but right now
she can't participate in your program because she doesn't have an AA degree yet or an as degree and so I see this as an excellent next step for this community and I'm very excited about it I'm excited as as well and I do agree with you Guardians should not ever be the primary source of security on a
campus throw that in there since you brought it up um thank you madam chair um Mr Mar thank you for the presentation um slide number five is missing one thing that I would love for you to have included that
would have been the average starting salary for someone that completes your program um I think that that's that's I I kind of know what it is I think that's a good sell point when you're talking about um this your program if I did that we wouldn't be able to recruit teachers
they would all come I'd probably be taking the class too on a funny side note yes I should have put that in there um you'd be surprised what our practical nurses are making coming out after one year and our um our technicians coming out of this
program they're making more than more than the starting teachers so I got a little push back from some coun when we first started doing dual enrollment and I had to really make it clear that guys listen that we're not all about we're not about taking the lowest students in the district we're there for every every
type of student in our district but we have some really really high performing students applying to get into our programs and they're making more money in a very short period of time than a lot of four-year college graduates so um when I go on the recruiting Trail I do put those numbers in there and I do have
presentations with it I just didn't think about it for this one we're going down the line and and I have 1,000 complete confidence that we have the the right man standing in front of us to fight this fight and to advocate so thank you U Mr small for this
presentation you know in the M for me it's always about what's best for kids families in the community and accessible Career and Technical education at the local level at an affordable price you just can't go wrong so I'm really grateful for this um thank you for
coming up been presenting it today and let's go okay you need a letter I'm happy to write it I might need that thank you uh actually I would have been a better piggyback off of what Reverend Cummings was saying because this year during the Belleview High School Capstone projects they put me in a
medical room again where I had seven or eight or nine presentations and one of the students at Belleview shadowed one of your students and uh in the Radiology program a radiologic technology certificate program what you and so I
heard all about the starting salaries of these individuals and so you actually could just pull information right out of her Capstone project to to help you with your recruitment uh but I did ask her are you gonna go to MTC she's actually gonna have to go to a community college outside of the state right now is what
her intention is but that was my question right out of the gate because I knew that this was something we potentially were pursuing and just didn't have the exact timeline until today I do have a question though because you did highlight that the pr requisites would all be done online do
we already have Educators identified that will be Maran County Public School teachers either through Maran virtual school or something that have the master's degree and the certification to be able to teach those prerequisites will they be right here in
Maran County and our I was trying to pull up our teacher job description and instructional and all of those things our teacher job description by the way hasn't been updated since 2015 so I mean just based on information I just saw unless there's something else out there and we're always updating job
descriptions that that's one that hasn't been touched in 10 years so we might want to revisit that um if Miss Mor is listening right now but uh regardless I I was curious about how we intend to do the prerequisites should we get through that process I'm certain we kind of want
to make sure we have all the eyes dotted and tees crossed that we actually have approval to do this before we start hiring people I mean that would obviously make sense I don't really need approval I can do part-time contracts okay so but are they were the intention is they'll be marrying County Public Schools Employees just like all the rest
of your educ that would be the intention and I've already contacted some staff members that I know their credentials that used to work for me and i' I've started lining that up but I didn't get too far ahead of myself because I want to get past some of the steps here uh but the you know one of the mistakes I
made in the beginning when I started this process was that I assumed that you had to have a master's to teach the college level prerequisite courses but and Dr gullet was a big part of this process with me and and what I learned
quickly was it's very political and there's um and I'm not a very political person so I could be like Sheriff Billy Woods and say things quicker than I should sometimes so Dr gullet kind of kept me you know hey you know not that way so um I I thought it was that you
had to have a master's degree and I thought that um you had to be certified in in that area and in the process and some of the obstacles uh we have some people helping us from the state outside of the doe in the Senate level especially and I
got a call and she said Gary you don't need to do it you don't need a partner to do the Gen Ed all you need are teachers with a bachelor's level and 15 hours of college level work with a C or higher in that area well that's a lot easier to find than someone with a
master's degree and certific a in that area so that that opened it up for me and I believe that's very similar to what our local state college does whenever they were on our campuses and they might have a higher amount of hours with their accrediting the agency but Co
I did the research there and we need 15 hours of sea level worker higher in that area so it's going to be a little easier to find those teachers so she was trying to encourage me to not give up that you could do your own gen Ed you know gen Ed classes so we're going to do it
ourselves then I don't have to rely on anybody and if if it fails it's going to be my fault it won't be anybody else's well and I I don't want to uh put all of that on you I I know that as as being an Adjunct professor for the two two of the local colleges here in town it's 18 at
least their requirements are 18 hours of Master's level work post bachelor's degree within the area that you're going to be teaching so you may have a little bit lenient more lenient uh than what theirs are if it's Jed for an as degree I believe it might be little a little lower but KO is what I worry about
because that's our accrediting agency and it is 15 and it's C or higher and it's in that area so it'll be a little easier for us I'm hoping to get some other Tech colleges to do it together as a team and the reason we want to offer it on online is so that we can offer it
and we can give those students the pathway and they can jump into our professional courses that are all day long and um and we'll require some of that to be done before we'll approve them into the program so they don't have a heavy load all the way through we got it mapped out I no I completely understand that just again speaking from
the Collegiate Professor experience teaching online is different and so as long as all the folks that you're interested in recruiting to put in that spot uh are willing and able and interested and know what those challenges are then certainly Go Gang Busters what would really make me happy
is going to a group of host of students at a high school or even at an eighth grade level and give them a flyer that tells them they can take these prere these classes while they're in high school they can do it with us online dual enroll and when they graduate they can come right into our program finish
our professional classes and and get an as degree that would be pretty cool I hope I'll be able to see that happen Dr that's okay Madam chair if I if I may jump in board um I want to thank Mr smallidge for his leadership
and what what you just Illustrated is what I think is also really fundamentally important for this community is another choice right when we talk about expanding choices it's it's what you just described and and those politics had nothing to do with Maran County they were outside of here
and because when anything is new sometimes it at a higher level it gets a little messy between people that have nothing to do with us so I want to just thank you for your leadership and and staying true to what's been in existence all along and it's another choice for
this community and for our our students so thank you it's another pathway thank you I just had to piggyback on what board member Campbell was was talking about and having it begin and what you said having this begin the oess building in middle school I would say that started
in elementary school because a lot of little kids fall off their bikes and break their arms and we all know we have bones and things like that I mean there it's just I it's everything I love about Career and Technical education is what brings kids in and gets them thinking and you know something other than I want
to be a famous Olympic person or an NFL player you know it's just exposure and opportunity and I'm just really excited for the direction we're going with Career and Technical education for our kids it's awesome we also were applying for to do our RN program it's a
practical nurse bridge program from practical on nursing to RN and it's uh being done for the first time in the state down south and uh we're jumping on board with that you could be an RN going to MTC in two years after graduation no
degrees required it's it's strictly a clock hour program you get the same RN license you're going to get the same jobs at the same pay and it's it's a great option so we're we're working on that we've we've got to get past a couple U clinical placement hurdles and
some contracts and once we get that we're going to apply to the board of nursing for that and I'll come back and let you guys know about it I know you'll keep us posting right Mr M thank you for presenting to us today and and thank you for um rallying for our students and um
you know searching out Avenues to help other students succeed we're grateful for that and please keep us posted as you work your way as I was tracking you through your slide you're about halfway through approval is that right we're halfway through that slide yes that gr
yeah yeah so we're just we're cheering you on keep be sure to keep us posted okay I'll keep you posted guys thank you thanks have a good day is there any public comment okay seeing none we're going to move on
to Athletic Facility prioritizations can we take like a five minute sure um board would you let got glasses back on sorry it is 9:34 let's take a brief recess and come
back at did I see 9 you said N I did I am so sorry it is 10:34 we're going to take a brief recess um let's say we'll be back in 10 minutes thank you all right thank youone needs aack
e e e e e e e e e e
e e e e e e e e e e e
welcome back it is 10:45 um we are on our item 6.1 athletic facilities um let our presenter is to drce our certainly thank you madam chair we have um we have Mr Tucker here with
Dr Brewer go come forward and share some information board has had some conversation on already and coming back with an update of of U more information on our athletic needs good morning chair Conrad board
members and superintendent Dr golet during the October 17th um work session Mr Tucker and I presented to you a a large amount of information about all of the high schools in athletic needs and
during that presentation there was a request or after that presentation there was a request from the board to return at a later date with a refined list that narrowed the top priorities and to
include a upto-date dollar amount for each of those items so Mr Tucker has worked closely with the um County athletic directors we actually have three with us today from um Belleview Vanguard and Westport they are here to answer any additional questions you may
have um but we look forward to your questions and your feedback after the presentation Mr Tucker will provide to you thank you Dr Brewer good morning Mr Tucker how are you good morning how are you today it's uh it's a pleasure to be back
before you guys today uh just to kind of present some more detailed information from our first presentation back in October um this uh this presentation today is is going to be talking more about upgrades um and what they can what
they can do for our our school campuses completing these upgrades that we discuss um will greatly have a a big impact on all of our high school communities across the district um me uh all right so this first slide talks
about all the upgrades that are needed at all the high schools and the majority of these were on there's one thing that's not on here that was our previous um presentation but I will go over that a little bit later and why we left that out when it comes to when we get to the
cost factors and stuff uh so you can see we have outdoor storage buildings we're going to talk about today uh gym scoreboards and shot clocks and I'll have some rationale as to why we're adding shot clocks to our gyms um softball and baseball field bleachers
and Tennis pickle ball court resurfacing and additions for the schol that do not have them currently so what's our rationale for these upgrades uh investing in our athletic facilities is essential to providing a positive experience for our
athletes our coaches uh our Spectators and all of our school communities uh upgrading these scoreboards adding storage for outdoor sports upgrading the bleachers on all baseball and softball fields and resurfacing and adding tennis courts on campuses will enhance the functionality and the overall
environment for all of our programs we'll start with outdoor storage buildings what will this do for our campuses um it's going to help secure and protect all the outdoor sports equipment from the ele elements um currently on all of our school campuses if you were to go to them and ask where
they store this stuff sometimes you'll see some of the schools have jump pits and pole vault pits and stuff um for hurdles they'll have them stored under their bleachers in the football stadium and it's just not a good look like we don't have there's not enough storage on
any of our campuses for to house all these things um so we have outdoor storage buildings um uh bleachers for softball and baseball fields this kind of will the majority of
our Fields have there's a couple and I'll I'll talk about it here in a few minutes in another slide um but a lot of our schools have uh bleachers that are wooden and they most of them require some type of annual maintenance either replacing boards um securing them to
make them safe for spectators none of them have handrails that make them ADA Compliant and all those kind of things so um there's a a great need for this and that's one reason why it's in this presentation um it'll increase our seating options for all Spectators and
like I just mentioned um all schools will now have sections that will be ADA Compliant with handrails um incorporated into the weers um and it kind of looks like that picture right there that's a little bit what they look like um the ones that I
have priced out but they're they're not as tall um they're five rows tall and they see approximately each section is 27 foot long and they will see approximately 90 people um with that size so moving on to our scoreboards and
shot clocks for the gyms um all of our gyms have scoreboards that are at least 20 years old was some approaching the 30-year Mark we have a couple high schools that their school boards aren't scoreboards have quit working um and they're kind of to the point where
they're beyond repair um and adding the shot clocks in 20127 it's going to become mandatory um in the FHSAA that all basketball games are played with a shot clock so that's our rationale for going ahead and adding the shot clocks
and getting ahead of the game when it comes to that because they are going to be required for competition tennis and pickle ball courts currently four of our high schools have uh tennis courts on campus a few years ago one set was condemned
that's at dellan high school so they can't even use their tennis courts they have to go elsewhere um and three of the high schools do not have courts period adding and repairing the existing courts will allow our tennis teams to compete on their campuses and not have
to travel to various locations um around the district So currently like let's take North Maran for instance they have to travel a great distance to practice tennis they go to kajo park um which is over off of 36th Avenue um and
35th Street so it's putting it's it's requiring our athletes to have to travel a great distance just to practice um so doing these things will will help as far as that goes and and that can be tied to safety if you want to look at it that way right um
so with those four things let's talk about cost so with the storage buildings this is a 24x 40 foot metal building they come at a cost of approximately $20,000 per school um concrete slabs for each
building are approximately $55,000 per school and it's going to depend on uh the footer depth The Vapor Barrier that has to be used and that comes with the engineering plans and stuff when that that all comes together um and these prices came from Sean Duncan and
Facilities so we appreciate him um getting to us so these are these are as close as we're going to get to some prices of of what this will cost um and then power for lights and possible mini splits being added to help with humidity control so stuff doesn't get moldy um
especially when it gets hot in Florida right so that's uh approximately 35 thou or $3,500 per School continuing on to the bleachers um the approximate total cost for bleachers is
$375,000 that's for 35 27 foot sections similar to what I was describing earlier um one 121 foot section and 6 15 foot sections um and if we go that route included in that is a 5% rebate from uh
Varsity brand sports for campus branding so that will allow the athletic directors and the principles to put some school branding around their campuses and further kind of dress them up a little bit and make them look more appealing um to the community when they
when they come on these campuses uh concrete slabs for the bleachers and walkways there's six that are about 40 foot by 180 foot that is $177,000 each uh North Marian High School already has concrete uh for their baseball field and
then so that that depth right there and that size is for baseball fields um and then the next there would be six at 40 foot by 120 foot and that would be about 11,500 each and lakew high school
already has concrete all the way around their softball field and they actually have the bleachers that we're considering purchasing the ones that we got the uh the quotes on so and North Maran high school has the exact same bleachers on their B ball field currently and they have concrete um so
those those two Fields wouldn't need any of this uh with the exception of let me take that back nor Maran High School would take one of the smaller sections because there's they have a unique situation between like their visitors Dugout and the concession stand where they currently have one of our older
sets of bleachers that are wooden um and one of the bigger sections wouldn't go in there so we would one of the smaller sections that I talked about earlier would be dedicated to go there so everybody would end up with metal bleachers on on all their
facilities all right so scoreboards and shot clocks um this would be this would be 16 boards so there's there's two boards in each gym and if you walk in our gyms now all of them have the same thing they have one board at one end one board at the
other um and then eight sets of shot clocks which set would would be two of them right so that would be $130,000 um that includes the boards and the shot clocks um for the new high school as well um I had them send me a
quote for eight schools versus seven um and they were there would also be a 5% rebate for from Varsity brand sports if we go with the diatonic scoreboards um and that would be for Branding in the
gymnasiums so just like we had it for the outdoor Sports and stuff for the bleachers with softball and baseball it will be the same thing for the gyms um then there's a 4,000 UPG $4,000 upgrade um if needed all of our schools aren't
going to need an upgrade in the power but some may um depending on the age and what we find when we get in there um again talking with Sean and tech services that's a possibility so that would be the cost if we have to do that to run new power for the shot clocks at
all s in high schools um $40,000 would be for the tennis and pickle ball courts that's for resurfacing um currently we Outsource that to another company it's not something that we do in house and that's the approximate cost for one set of
tennis courts that we currently have on one of our campuses um so that would be it our four high schools right now with the understanding that at bellw they are currently having someu ual issues um with their the foundation of their
tennis courts so it might be a little bit more intrusive but we won't know that until our facilities department is able to look at that and have a better idea of what's required to make it to where they're safe I mean it's not that they're unsafe right now but there are
some issues I think there's some sinking going on and stuff under the under the courts um so that's going to take a little bit more detail but the average cost would be about $40,000 for resurfacing our already existing courses
and then courts and then $100,000 would be to add new Courts at three schools um so that would be per school and you'll see that in the breakdown here in a few minutes um that brings us to our cost summary so this is our detailed list of the total
cost and you can see all the things that we discussed earlier added together puts us at uh one point 1, 371,000 for all those improvements now put this slide in here just as consideration because I know
what what has been discussed in the past and if we were to go with this the consideration would be to add a a rubberized track at one of our current schools right now um that cost would be
approximately $550,000 and I think I talked about that a little bit in my first presentation about rubberized tracks and tur Fields a rubberized track would be $550,000 um the recommendation from the Ole Department would be to add this
track at Westport due to their high volume of track athletes this this year and every year going forward um they they tend to have a little more track athletes than than any of the other high schools do and in addition to that um
the infrastructure at Westport is a little bit better than some of our other schools I know it's been talked about at Forest in the past um the the amount of work that it would take to get the surface at Forest versus at
Westport is a whole lot different um as far as the grading that would have to take place redoing the draining the drainage and stuff because of the crown they have in their football field um Westport would make a whole lot more financially because there's a whole lot
less work that has to be done so that would bring our total to $1.9 million or in the neighborhood um that is the end of our presentation any questions thank you Mr Tucker we appreciate all the work that went into
this we had you know a lot of concerns were brought forward um when we had our first presentation about Athletics and so this this is a great list thank you for gathering this information for us board yes ma'am comments and concerns yes Mr thank you and this was a great
presentation for many reasons first of all it condensed into the priorities and price tags attached so thank you very much for that um I'm just going to keep it short we have the money these are outwardly facing items that the public
sees and the students benefit from um I support each thing that that you have brought forward um and I would encourage the board let's make a decision because costs continue to escalate and if we add any
enhancements or anything else that gets identified then what are we going to see construction amendments so um I think we need to strike while the iron is hot um be expedient in this and at a future conversation I really do want to talk
about booster though because vard doesn't have a stadium and they need a decent place to play and I don't see them in play in any of this so I'm not going to throw that into the water today but that's where I am
this yes Dr James thank you this um to Echo those compliments this is exactly what we were asking for and I would say that like going forward this is exactly what this board member wants to see 12 slides money needs from the Department
expert and then you ask this board to do what we need to do so my first question and I can see Miss Boston Nellis just for a headshake um are we are have we budgeted 1.3 or are we going to budget basically two million or
neither from a money perspective that's what I'm looking to understand it's the five year work plan that we haven't had a work session on yet no I I understand where the money comes from so I'm not confused about where the money comes from what I'm saying is what I personally have said
previously and I will continue to say is I would like to see Athletics get their own budget not built into the facility's capital work plan because then Athletics can take their money and I think Dr Campbell and I have have kind of reiterated this many times we want Athletics to have their own money they
come up with their own plan just like this and then they execute with the money that we've budgeted for them so how much money are we going to allocate for athletics that is my question because I am completely on board with all of this I have a little heartburn with two rubberized tracks in basically
the southwest of the district I don't think that that's ideal um I do think it would be better to have the track not at Westport since we are putting a track at the new high school CCC I can respect the opinion on it and I certainly after having a very passionate discussion with
the track coach at um at Westport I understand the passion behind his desire um to have it at Westport but I think that it would be better served in another part of the district and that's just my personal opinion but I will not die on that hill but what I want to know
is where is this money coming from and how are we budgeting it because my desire is for there to be a segment of the capital budget that is set aside for athletics I have maintained that for the last two years so that's my question to the finance people not to really you Mr
Tucker and Miss Boston Ellis is coming up I know you don't have eyes in the back good morning Miss Boston Ellis good morning um as I stated to you all the time it is your decision as a board where this money comes from but you have
to realize there is something else that is going to suffer this has to be taken into consideration with everything else in the budget where whether it's staff whether it's increase in health insurance whether it is things that we
are not even aware of a reduction in the uh allocation that we receive uh from our legislators all of that has to be taken into consideration and we have just begun the budget process with with
and um things are due to us on the 24th so I'm not saying that it's not going to be a part of it but it has to be a decision uh by the board uh do this or not and just know that something else is is going to have to give if that's your
intent and to follow up my question if I may my my request then and if the rest of the board or two other board members would agree my request would be as we're going into this budget cycle can we see a reality where we give a a line item budget that's not not doesn't include
all of these athletic items in the fiveyear work plan but instead is a budget allocated to Athletics and and then Athletics comes before the board and does a five-year work plan with their money that we are allocating for
athletics that is what this board member wants to see so that we are ensuring we are preserving the continued Improvement of Athletics in Maring County Mr Tucker has a budget and each department has an opportunity to provide their request for
budget and then it goes through the entire process of what can we really afford as a district so he can put it in his budget no one would tell him not to do that but um the total amount um I
think you probably all need to talk about if it's truly a fiveyear plan if you take $2 million over five years you're talking about $200,000 so I'm saying $2 million a year I want this board member wants to see we
are so I mean we are spending so much money to prioritize our educational facilities and that we have a sales tax we have impact fees and we are doing our due diligence to improve our academic facilities we are so behind in our athletic facilities we have just like
busing and transportation we said we talked about some big numbers for busing we have got to prioritize our athletic facilities as well and so what I'm saying is and if that's the way of the work and Mr Tucker continues to submit $2 million a year and then and then comes to the board in the budget cycle
and we talk about it but what I heard board member thrower say which I agree with is I want this to start now because I want what what's the potential that this could happen for the start of next year's seasons and so I want to see us make a decision and waiting on the budget cycle it will not allow that to
happen at all so th that is my desire as a board member thank you and I appreciate it Miss B is understanding the process honestly this conversation has to precede the five-year work plan conversation because all of these items here if the board says yes move forward
with $2 million moving forward to Athletics out of the facilities work plan because all of these are are not in the buckets that you said I understand if we give additional money to Athletics and and operational costs and and if we hired more athletic directors or we hired more coaches or all of that comes
out of different buckets this right here comes out of capital and so we understand that all of these dollars right here would come out of the fiveyear work plan and and we would be cutting potentially an AC or a roof or something somewhere else that might be on the plan already if we allocate these $2 million I think what I'm hearing from
board member James as well as what I'm going to say is what we've been asking for is this that we do have an allocation out of the capital budget every year to start playing catchup because we are so far behind and I'm grateful that Mr Tucker has put together
a plan if I have another conversation about scoreboards in my time as a board member I don't know what I'm going to do I I I can't begin to tell you the number of conversations I've had with community members that are appalled appalled at
how our scoreboards operate on all of our campuses and the amount of money that they know that we get a billion dollar budget how in the world can we not have two working scoreboards in a gymnasium I I mean and I know we're never going to allocate money to the MTI gym because Oola is
getting a beautiful new gy and we've already talked about that but my sen my eighth grader in his last year of middle school basketball is playing without a scoreboard in MTI it's something manual sitting on a table that you can't even see so I this conversation I am grateful
we're having it today I am all for it I am all for starting the rubberized track conversation as well and I actually will disagree that Westport isn't the right place to start the reason I'm going to say it's the right place to start is for a couple of reasons number one as Mr
Tucker identified two different reasons for that they have the most track athletes of any school in our district additionally they have uh the facility Arrangement that would make it the easiest first spot to start with
potentially the least expensive start for us Additionally the geographic location of where that school is is perfect across from the County's swimming facility as
well as a County recreation facility where there are already other County Fields that make that a perfect spot for outside entities to want to come in and give this District Revenue so I think that's actually the first perfect spot
to start with a rubberized track I am all for what has been presented Ed today um all for the tune of $2 million afforded to Capital so that gives you that little bit of cushion based on what you've put here and I too like Miss thrower chair would like to request a
special work session not a special an additional work session to talk specifically about booster Stadium I wrote that down I want to talk about booster Stadium from the perspective of a public private partnership I want that to happen ahead of our next technical
working group meetings as well as the next um Public School uh what pspo that we just had yesterday because I believe there's an opportunity for us to get serious about requesting tourism development tax dollars for what an upgrade there would
look like the county is already doing that and that was a lot of conversation if you've seen it in the newspaper what they're doing and what they're talking about we need to be at that table because booster stadium is something unique in this community that currently the county doesn't have in their repertoire and we need to make that a
part of that conversation so that concludes my comments on this thank you thank you um Mr tuer just got a couple couple questions um good very good slide presentation the bleachers
um those are those those are like mobile type bleachers correct the one in the picture the ones that we would be that we put out for to the quotes on and stuff they're they would be bolted into the concrete that's the purpose for the concrete so they're they're stationary
they're they're bolted in and that's why I asked I'm looking at the picture and see it has like a trailer on it I know there's some bleachers that are mobile that they were pulling out for like bigger events and graduations I was thinking about the ones that b High School um that I know that on the side
but I think those are from time to time so that was a push um used to be schools had fi they still school still have F they they still store build houses is it just
football what they're usually locker rooms for football and some of them contain the weight rooms as well like at Dunellen that's how their setup is out there by the stadium um vanguards is on obviously um Westport doesn't have one
out there for any of those um those I was talking about that earlier because that was in one of my presentations for outdoor sport locker rooms um in the previous back in October and those there's options but they are
long-term they can be a cash cow like if you get into modular locker rooms um storage containers things like that um so miss bomach was gracious enough to get me a quote from based off what the what we're doing at the new high school
um for just an outdoor locker room facility that has bathrooms and showers in it and those come at a cost of about $750,000 each um so that's why I didn't include it in this because they are needed around the district but that's I
mean that's almost half of what we were considering for a budget for this that's that's your wish L that's that's that would be a big wish listing So currently some of our Outdoor Sports have Portable Buildings um at several
the comp you know what I mean so and there's no storage um for equipment and stuff in those buildings as they currently sit and I can get on board and I asked that for a reason um I've seen some of the the where we where we've been putting
stuff where we housing and and for for what I see it cost us money to do what we're doing right now because wear and tear the elements the molding all those different types of things um so I can see the need for
this wondering is that size sh be big enough to accomodate all the things you need to do a with number of athletic activities on those campuses that's what you're say that's what you
recomend I definitely scoreboards look at the picture of the scoreboard um it's it's a little different than what I'm thinking and I'm just asking a question um it has a detached shot clock they don't do the
all in ones no sir so they made so because of fhsa that's the that's the one that they have to go with well and the the the ones that have a shck clock
integrated really are not it's it's not what we would want because it's hard to get them to function for several different sports because you got to remember like some of these schools have wrestling and these scoreboards that are going in these gyms
can convert to being used for wrestling volleyball basketball and and part of the recommendation is going to be going with this um there are some school districts that our schools have been in their gyms and they put the shot clocks over the
backboards right so they're they run power down the backside where you can't see it and they mount them to the side of the post like because you know how they raise and stuff and like so that that is where we would want to have them put that's how that's how we arrived at
the cost for the power well the sh class are not like the one the pictures sh CL you talking about are going to be on correct okay that's just an online picture that's not something of how ours would look okay um yeah because I was thinking if I'm playing the game I'm not a basketball player never but I would
want to know see the shot clock I have to turn around and you know right the shot clock I want to be where I'm shooting at so but you you answer it you it you asked where I was trying to get to um the um other my final
question how many rubberized tracks do we have now currently zero n um several years ago I I came to the board and asked about what's doing the rubber R track at Westport because of the need at Westport because of
the the high percentage of students that were using it for um track and field um at that time I think I mentioned that if it was a rubberized track we could host more activities at that school which
could generate more Revenue correct you could host uh regional state district meets at that school and because of the location of Westport um and the the size the accessibility so um I'm I'm happy to
see this on this list um for Westport um I'm I'm thrilled to see that I I'm I'm listening to miss Boston other as well um we do know these need to be prior prioritized we just need to make sure that as we proceed with this that
we do take consideration that there has to be we don't have we don't have unlimited money we don't have unlimited money but some of these things have been going on for years you see that um scoreboards that are 20 years old different things we just got to make
sure that whatever decisions we make I understand about making it item in the budget try to have a line part from Capital but we just got to make sure again as we proceed I I for I'm not a prophet but I
just forecast some difficult days ahead financially and we need to be smart as we move forward and um I would love to give every school everything that they asking for I do think this is a this is a good
ask definitely a good thank you re cumings Mr Tucker I want to say thank you again I just reminiscing about your presentation in October and I walked away feeling like my gosh we're never going to catch up we're so far
behind and so I just want to say again that I'm very thankful for the time and effort that you and your team took to narrow this down to something that the board could focus on and um you did a really great job I the first couple
items it's a lot to do with softball and baseball does that get those two sports in good shape very much so okay that'll make a huge difference good very good well I'm happy to hear it um I think
um that we have to make Athletics a priority if we want to see Improvement in that area because we're not going to get anywhere with just what's left over because there's never any money left over so we're going to have to prioritize it and to me it sounds like
you have the support of the board to do that um with the understanding that there's going to be some difficult decisions coming before us but I I personally feel like a Athletics has been towards the bottom of the list for a very long time um and our students
deserve um to have a better place to work and play so and I see Dr James has got a re well I just I wanted to go back to the you asked a question do this and softball in a good place and you affirm that Mr Tucker but we I I
don't know that I agree so dellan there's nowhere for girls to change so and that's just dellan I can I can speak to the other schools and so I I just want it to be crystal clear that we're gonna still have softball players at dellan changing in their
vehicle because they literally have nowhere to change so if there is a scenario where we put a slightly bigger metal structure and we're able to subdivide some changing rooms potentially in there or just do some very
basic not even maybe putting toilets out there just putting some closeted changing rooms in some of these so that we would be able to allow our female athletes places to change that are not their vehicle that is what this board
member wants to see um I think that there is still some Title Nine issues happening in the district and if we're going to do this and it's another $10,000 to put a slightly bigger shed and build out to you know five by five closets that we can make changing
stations for some of our female athletes that is what I would like to see um because it is not getting us I appreciate your enthusiasm but it is not getting us to where we need to be there are still some significant issues for baseball and softball and I mean I'm
not familiar if I dare say the word scoreboard but I know that we did work for Belleview High School um and that was a long-standing issue for bellev um Bell's baseball and softball but I don't know of um the other conditions at all of the other schools but my guess would
be that there's probably still Improvement for scoreboards in baseball and softball at some of the other sites as well so I just would like to say that like if there's a way we can just spend a little bit more money and meet some of close these gaps for female athletes
with regards to these storage sheds um and if that's a possibility I would like to see that tuer think something my mind about that lock rooms fors and stuff then at one point I I kind of remember this when
my son was there um we kind of had like some Portables or something that we use for like a fi house for for them at Forest seem like I remember my son was a freshman Forest still does for the different um is that something that's
possible because that is that is a real issue tit issue out there at we that that does happen currently at a few of our schools I know at Lake we they have a portable I think for M for baseball and softball each have their own I know
North Maran softball has a portable um Forest you're correct they have one um for softball uh Westport I believe has yeah so Westport has a portable for each um baseball and softball So currently
the majority of the schools function either with something attached to their Dugout or they have um they have Portable Buildings except for so if there's a way we can close that Gap without adding I mean we're not buying a brand new portable and Lord
knows we probably are in a portable deficit going into next year because we're still closing the Gap so um I I see facilities smirking so that means we're definitely in a deficit so I don't necessarily know that that's the solution but if we could get creative and maybe throw some closets in the
metal building I don't know just something because I would like to I would like for those female athletes to have the Privacy to change yes ma'am all right right Mr Tucker I think oh Dr Campbell no I I just wanted to say thank you for for bringing that up because
I understand as we all do that this is by far not an exhaustive list and we are only just beginning and I absolutely appreciate if there is something else we can do this year to ensure the equitability on all
of our campuses that all of our male and female athletes are receiving the same kind of at least facility to change in absolutely let's add that to the list it wasn't something that was added here and to the comment about baseball and
softball scoreboards even just baseball and softball in general we we are so far away from everybody having the same starting with basketball gymn let's say starting with gymnasium scoreboards
covers a multitude of sports alone and so that isn't just one baseball fields are terrific but there's only one sport you play on them same thing with softball fields absolutely we want wonderful facilities there's only one sport there if you have one gymnasium on your campus you have boys and girls
volleyball boys and girls basketball weightlifting uh wrestling boys and girls there there's there's just so many sports that these scoreboards prioritizing this first is going to be a huge benefit I also wanted to say a thank again thank you to Mr Tucker thank
you to the team that's put this together thank you for our athletic directors and the in the room today also thank you to the principles that have advocated significantly understanding the value of Athletics on their campuses and how just this small
step $2 million isn't small but just this small step this board is starting to put forward in a forward facing manner to help their schools with beautification of their campuses and more pride in what their schools can
offer I'm just grateful that we're having this conversation that we're prioritizing at board I'm glad to be a part of a board that is doing this and and ensuring that this is the direction we are moving forward but thanks again to the athletic directors here and the principles that have been advocating behind the scenes as well because they
see the value of what this can do and and how some of these things can be that pathway out for students that really need to understand the value of teamwork and character building and all that Sports bring regardless of a score on a
scoreboard thank you ch one more thing Mr Tucker and thank you to our ads that came out as well have we have we have we have we as a district or have we as um ads and schools reached out to some of
our um our graduates that have gone on to Pro Level Sports and and show them the need how we um expressed to them you know hey I I know I know in Dell I know Ernie Mills came back and did did the
field house for them um there are we have some grass that went on to do some great things that that are currently in professional on professional teams have we thought about us reaching out to them and saying hey this is what this is what our needs show them what our needs are
as far as Athletics because some of their success their success would not have been as great as it is had they not came through Public School System they not had some facilities that they were able to to do what they do thought about that there have been some conversations
yes I mean it's nothing I mean we don't want to put anybody on spot correct but but I but no no ask Partners in education ask I think you closed mouth don't get fed and we need to start um reaching back because ultimately um they
benefited from what's there now and we wanted to B better yes sir I did think of one other thing unrelated to that although the answer is always no if you don't ask so I'm always willing to ask um I have been doing some digging into
the ways we transport our athletes Mr Tucker knows that I'm working on this with Dale Hall specifically on the North End um attorney Powers we've kind of started having conversations bored because when our teams show up to out of count stuff there are 15 passenger vans
transporting students now the the position of this board this board because it's our policy and then the way of practice is that we are not allowed to transport students in 15 passenger vans so I have tasked attorney powers that in our policy update we are going
to dig deeply into why we can't ride in 15 passenger vans but other districts can because other districts are showing up with a fully wrapped it's not a rental like this is a wrapped rental uh wrapped fully done out 15 passenger van
which is a more than ample size for basketball for a lot of our smaller Sports and so unless and I this really this all came up is I started serving as um a huddle leader for FCA for North Maran High School's coaches breakfast once a month and so it's created a lot of
opportunity for some candid conversation and I'm really have enjoyed it but you know our girls basketball traveled over two hours on a Thursday and then back again on a Monday they lost both times blessed their heart and they drove over two hours One Direction for a basketball
game and that coach and then those parents had to privately transport their students on their miles not being reimbursed and we have a we have a gap in our program and if you don't have a parent who's willing to support you in your Athletics
you may very well not be able to participate and so and then the other issue is we can't take the activity buses that we do have out of County because they're not reliable enough to leave the county line so then what do our what does our sports do who is not
an income driver they're not creating a lot of money but they need to travel to the Villages and they also need to be there at 3:30 because our busing system cannot give a bus of hours for them to ride so then what they have to rent they either have to go rent multiple minivans
or they have to rent a charter bus and all of that is probably they're not even going to create enough Revenue to even be able to close the gap on that so we really truly and this is not something the Board needs to pay for I think the schools have enough Partnerships that they would absolutely be able to raise
funds and start closing the gap on this but we need to figure out how to allow the schools the opport to transport their children in a 15 passenger van we allow it in the childcare industry DCF allows it I can't figure out why high schools sports cannot be transported and
so my my prayer is that attorney powers and the team are going to be able to come up with a solution for this so that we can start doing what other districts are already doing so I I I was triggered by that and remembered and I wanted to make sure the board knew that that's something I've been focusing on James Dr
James doesn't passeng Y no you just need a regular you regular driver's license yeah I thought at some point they had changed it it's a I think it's a 13 passenger technically it's 15 seats but it's no you just need a regular driver's license but even then we have but we
have coaches like the assistant ad at North Maran who has a CDL and would be more than willing to drive a bus out of County he'd love the money to be able to drive the bus out of County but we don't even have the resources for him to be able to drive so most of our high schools have individuals with CDLs
willing but we don't even have the resources to be able to give them the vehicle to drive and to give it the the brief I'm sorry there was a Boardman want to speak first so I mean you you may be saying what I'm gonna say I I have the email for Mr EST
stanic in February that from the director of school transportation for the Florida Department of Education it says 12 to 15 passenger vans are prohibited for sale rent or lease to a school system for student transportation so not certain if it's going to take a
doe change I would assume that potentially and this is an assumption so attorney Powers I'm I'm looking forward to the research on it but those that already have them potentially are grandfathered in and Department of Education Rule now says that you can't purchase new ones I could be wrong on
that but it's actually Department of Education guidance but the the the cor Mr oranic is correct that is guidance that comes from fdoe on this issue there is uh the the the two-minute version is that there was a uh up until
2021 there was a um laws that specifically just prohibited within Florida Florida statute prohibited the use of 15 passenger panss um federal law really has been consistent really hasn't changed um Florida law then took back some of that to make it
more flexible and Grant increased flexibility there is also flexibility that is granted under the statute to high school principal to make specific decisions and calls that being said what happened is when the legislature rolled back its restrictions the Florida legislature
doesn't have any impact on what's still required under federal law under federal law multiactivity function bus there's a lot of requirements that's what FD is pointing out now is the fact that in their guidance they say that look despite the fact that we removed it from Florida books Florida is no longer a uh
Florida law is no longer an impediment um you are it is going to a tough road too to make sure that everything is compliant with federal law but we're not going to be the one standing in the way so federal law means that when you look
through the federal as are as case most federal statutes it's highly complex um I've gotten already sort of a a general summary of what that is but the problem is now is that fdoe the guideline that they say is just don't do it but they don't give actual you know very good
explanation for detail of that but it is they have a valid point quite obviously that there are safety requirements it can't just be any passenger van it has to be um has to meet federal laws for school transport there's questions of whether it can be a district owned
vehicle versus a common carrier um that's why rental BS are sometimes permitted and allowed um there's cross references to changes in liability so in some of these instances it is that um a district may choose to do it and the district may also chose to accept
increased liability um that may also have impacts with how we ensure things and there's there's a number of factors there as well so I told you I'd give you the two-minute version that is a two-minute version but there there's a lot going on there and um yes I and
that's why I wanted to bring it up to the whole board that my goal is when we talk policy we're g to talk about this and we're going to problem solve if maybe so the district can't buy it so maybe boosters buy it is that a is that a loophole is that a workaround I don't know but I want to I want to get creative and I want to think outside the box and if it means it needs to be part
of potentially legislative priorities in a year from now then we talk about that I don't know but um it's something that I think we need to discuss thank you J bringing that forward Dr James thank you Mr Tucker I think um I think you have
consensus on um bringing that forward to us as each of the contracts come forward then we'll be voting on them and I think you also have it's on the rubberized track at West with an emphas on trying to find a solution for Janell and girls yes that's right okay all right thank
you so much thank you com any public comment okay seeing that um moving down our agenda um we have oh my we talked so long I got lock down um we are not
discussing 7.1 the evaluation for the superintendent but I did tell you board that I would bring um some options forward and they are very few after I I met with legal so um options yes what we
can do moving forward that incorrect word options for how are we going to move forward for what for hiring any new superintendent I thought we came to a consensus just Tuesday night that we were going to talk about that at a special administrative briefing in work
session on March 24th at 9:00 a we did and I said that I would bring today just options and I had at that point I had spoken briefly with legal and there were a couple of options I was going to share with you to think over so you
would be prepared for conversation on Monday yeah we went a lot round and round about agendized items and now here we are on a topic that is Flaming all over the community and it's not even on the agenda but that's all I'm going to
say I I remember that what we said was we were going to enter into comments and in the chair's comments she was going to prep the board for a conversation for Monday the 24th and she was going to give us information so that
we can be prepared and mull over and understand the scope of the conversation for Monday the 24th that is what I recall is is the nature in which we said we were going to approach the conversation I think Dr Campbell even said in comments if I remember but I I
just also number attorney power saying there would be we were not going into conversation we just simply I'm giving a very short list so um board it's it's your pleasure I'm happy to take comment right the only thing I'll throw in was
that um my request was simply that when you if you're going to discuss those items in board comments that in order for there to be any sort of work session um content for us to be able to provide further and flush out dets I will need some direction from the board just on
what the initial um I I want the board to be informed of for example rfps things like that the things that might need to be done just so you're on the same page without having to continue and individually do all of your own research
on potential options you have it sort of a starting floor of of what those would be and then full discussion would be something that would uh happen during and perhaps even one of many uh work sessions beginning on the 24th but I
just uh I think that my understanding was that the board chair was going to during her comments give a slight summary of input of what options there are based on fsba fire previous rfps things of that
nature attorney thank you I to recall the conversation and we did discuss that there would be items that would be brought forth during board comments if that's when you want to share this information I think that would be perfect I know my recommendation on
Tuesday evening no offense to attorney Powers but if we have not had any conversation at all with the Florida Schoolboard Association who are the experts in helping School boards work through superintendent appointments and
what the process looks like um I understand attorney Powers has not been through the process before so I'm I'm grateful that we're going to have a full work session but if we haven't actually consulted the Consultants that we have that we pay a lot of dues to receive and
use at no cost extra to us um then I highly recommend that be a part of the conversation over the course of the next week before Monday and I I think that the input that I've been able to research and provide so far really talks about prior to getting to that portion
of the process it talks more about the um the fact that the fsba um and along with several other vendors do in fact have RFP processes for setting up these kind of items and that I mean I'll let
I'll let I'll let you guys discuss this however you want to in your board comments I was asked simply to give some background on how a process looks now not not how the selection occurs by any means
essentially what do we do as far as an do we set this up for bid as an RFP or do we go to um fsba and allow them to be the the ones we choose that's all up to you but there are things that need to be done I'll let M Camp speak and talk about what you want to talk about with
all due respect I potentially am the only board member sitting up here that has had a conversation with fsba and at no time was discussing an RFP process for them to be the consultant that we choose to do a superintendent search
fsba and the leader of fsba has walked multiple districts through a timeline through is July even a possibility if there's conversation about an elected vers appointed what
what does that those kinds of generic conversations that are completely apart from from a superintendent search and that's what we pay dues for to receive consulting services on all of those overarching questions that are
resonating all throughout our community right now so that's why on Tuesday evening I requested that actually today we have Andrea MSA be able to answer some of those questions publicly that I've received from her already I don't know what your questions were I knew what mine were but I had hoped that this
board would have that far before considering an actual agreement with anybody to conduct a superintendent search timelining things giving us ideas on what things might look like how we
talk to our community or not ultimately the decision is up to the five people sitting here on the direction that we move forward and how we do that and I just thought again we pay a lot of money to that Association and they do a lot more for us as board members than just
also paying them an addition fee to do a superintendent search correct and Dr Campbell I would just say that for my input the only thing that I had to speak to that was the fact that um there are different ways it may be done and doing exactly as you are outlining is one option other
districts ALS also have engaged in rfps I have absolutely no interest in or it doesn't matter to me what the board decides other districts have had specifically um a department sometimes their legal department do most of the
work also not something I'm particularly interested in but that's however you want to decide there are different ways to go about this and some of them will obviously be quite preferable to what our district needs are um so I don't have a dog in this hunt except to say I
you guys need to be able to discuss things and and know at least what options are on the table in F from ego from there I I don't disagree with chair Campbell uh sorry um board member Campbell I we pay fsba a lot of money if
fsba wants to join us on Monday the 24th and provide their opinion as to what we do next at not for superintendent search but what we do next I am I've I've never been in disagreement with fsba coming
and doing that I didn't want them to do it today because it wasn't agendized so the agenda item is now Monday the 24th I would love for fsba to come on Monday the 24th and provide that guidance in addition what I thought was that chair
Conrad having had chair privileged discussions would simply send us on our way today with hey my conversations with the attorney have looked like this please do some research just attach and if you know what if if the um chair Conrad if your thoughts need to be
uploaded on Monday when Miss Martinez publishes the work session Monday the Monday's the 14th right Monday's the whatever day you know what I'm talking about Monday the 17th if when the item is published on Monday the 17th if you upload your thoughts there um so that we can all review them timely then that's
fine too but the chair has clearly had some level of a a more in-depth conversation with not just our superintendent but also attorney Powers as you are privileged to do as the chair so I think communicating your conversations you've had to the rest of the board would be important and so if
that gets uploaded in a document for Monday's um Monday's publication Miss Martinez then that's fine with me too um but I I would like to know what conversations you've had so that we can then go into we can all go into a Monday the 24th conversation on the same
footing and we're all prepared with the same information so that then when fsba and attorney powers and everyone else share what we're going to do next we all are going into it with the same information thank you and you know we've already been talking about this way longer than
I'm comfortable but I'm looking forward to hearing your quick list and hopefully it's not something that should have been on an agenda mam chair um we've been here before let me say we've been here before um just a few
years ago and there is a process that's already that we establ couple years ago and I were on that board um I'm sure legal has the historical um documents that shows what to do um
and as uh Dr Campbell said fsba is um we are a member of fsba and fsba does also and I think what's kind of throwing stuff is people not understanding that we are a part of fsba and they are Consultants but fsba also does superintendent sees I
people are kind of inter inter um as as members of fsba they have the right we have the right to ask them for cons consultation on how to proceed which they gave us the last time before right it's already doc we didn't use them and
we did not use them as the search um as the consultant fir to do the search so um the chair does have privilege because I know this I was a chair at that time the chair does have to bring for in her comments any things
that she may want to kind of help guide us Direct on but the meeting should be the 24th which we agreed upon another night and then at that time we'll come come we're supposed to come forth and and start having a serious more serious
conversation um if people are having heartburn about having this conversation today um guess what buy you some tongues because you have more hard work it's coming down the road no for me I just want to be publicly trans just need to be completely transparent and get ready
for what's going but there is a there is a map that we already have that I'm sure isal that's what I was asked to share that's what I and and where you go from here is the board's decision thank you Reverend Cummings and and and legal had
great things to say about the process last time it landed us with um hiring Dr gullet was R very well I was told I wasn't here but they do have a lot ofal data on that
process went Dr Camp thank you and I appreciate that again and this will be the last comment I make about this today because with all due respect I understand we have historical information on how the superintendent search and the timeline went before this
board had two years to do that at that time because the amendment was changed in the county in 2018 on a ballot and we had two solid years at this point that is not the timeline I hope this board
considers so that's my only consideration here you have historical knowledge we have not been in this position before thank you Dr Campbell you're absolutely right um the initiative did go forth from the ballot
and we didn't we did not we did not have looked like we had two years but we did not have two years I can assure you of that it was very very short it was very short the process probably was less the whole time was done by one person was to
chair so I know it wasn't two years but again that's all in the records all right thank you for that all right we're gonna move on um item number eight the school board attorneys has been withdrawn from agenda so we're
going to move on to board comments Miss Martinez nothing thank attorney Powers nothing further thank you Dr nothing further for me thank you Dr Campbell thank you um just quickly board I am intending to attend the Maran County day
in the capital on April 10th there is also a reception the evening before uh that we've been invited to I'm certain you all have received that that we'll be recognizing um Senator Baxley and so looking forward to that as well just wanting to make you all aware I intend
to to go up again I also wanted to say I would be remiss if I didn't bring up the South Okala of reading day read Across America because I was so focused on all the high school things that are happening having a senior my brain is on
senior things and so uh I had the opportunity to read to a group of kindergarteners and we read B dance and that was incredibly fun because uh we were able to get the Wiggles out and do our flap our wings and talk about how
bees can't talk and so they don't have other ways to communicate other than just flapping their wings anding and and they have to spin around in circles and it was just really fun as a communicator to read a book about communication among bees and really does talk about the
sophistication that we as humans have in our communication Endeavors uh grateful yesterday for a very well-led meeting chair Conrad uh for the intergovernmental meeting of the public school planning organization uh the public school
planning organization as spelled out by the intergovernmental uh excuse me interlocal agreement consists of all of the elected officials within all of the municipalities in Maran County including the school board and uh looking forward
to continued conversations in where that can go grateful that Dr gullet brought in Consultants to help get our County and cities and School District
all on the same page so that we can have as accurate as possible data to be able to communicate and share we're only as good as the information we have and so we can't operate in silos and the more
we operate silos the worse off this entire Community is from a planning perspective and so I'm grateful that we have the opportunity now to come together and have those Collective collaborative conversations and just looking forward to
continued forward momentum in what public school planning looks like for the entire organization I think I heard a comment yesterday about we're going to give you what you need so you can do what you're going to do the meeting we had yesterday
according to the interlocal agreement is of the public school planning organization and every person around that table makes up that organization so it's not an Us and Them based on the inter lical agreement and so I'm I'm grateful chair again that you've chaired that and that we will hopefully have
another meeting in the fall where the public school planning organization can talk about how we together can plan where best to put public schools and with the DAT that our consultant that the school system is hired will be able
to put together will also benefit the community for Parks planning and Transportation Planning and won't it be great to know where students will be living so they can plan where the next best park will be so just grateful for that and looking forward to what that
looks like and um looking forward to spring break and I know my kids didn't even want to go to school today I know it's Senior Skip Day for um my son is at school today but I know several are not uh but uh yeah that that was interesting
to hear that conversation and uh just looking forward to having a restful spring break every administrator I've spoken with I've encouraged them to make sure they get some rest and come back rejuvenated to finish out this school year as strong as
absolutely they possibly can and I know they will and uh then we'll come back bright and ready on M morning at 9: a to have this continued conversation thank you Dr Dr James thank you um I don't have a whole lot of thoughts I'm
grateful for the conversation today I'm grateful to see this board continue to um add Athletics to our list of top priorities it's a it's the the list of top priorities is continuing to grow but um we there's so much data to support
that student athletes do such amazing things on our campuses and um as Dr Campbell had mentioned I I want to continue to prioritize sports that are going um sport improvements that are going to touch a lot of students um and a rubberized track is going to also
include a lot of students and so um I am looking forward to these continued conversations about our athletic facilities and ensuring that we are um meeting title n requirements and acknowledging our female athletes as well that's um certainly a top priority um wanted to speak just briefly uh I am
under overwhelmed with the consultant we've hired GB Pro and so uh I did request to see how much money we've spent to date and I know that there's stuff in the hopper and I've asked what that amount is um I I really am hopeful that when we come back together in September we're going to see more I
thought yesterday um while chair Conrad did a wonderful job leading the work um it felt kind of like it could have been an email and so I know that the interlocal um dictates that us we meet in person but uh when when we are when
we are essentially requiring all of us to come together to plan I want that meeting and that time to be best spent and um I I I do not think we got that yesterday so in addition to them not knowing the laws required for reporting
procurements which happened a couple weeks back I just am incredibly underwhelmed with the service we are being provided by them and I sure do hope that it is going to improve otherwise this board member is going to to have further discussion about doing something different so that's all I got
for today I look forward to a restful spring break and that's coming back on Monday the 24th and um starting some deep dive into our next steps as a district so thank you thank you
re thank you madam chair um very um very very uh informative meeting this morning um and I will even say productive meeting this we we heard some presentations on the SRO contract as well as the presentation
for athletics um both were need needful I think um I think we we did get some places where we need to go in both conversations um I am truly truly
looking forward to uh 5:00 tomorrow because at 5:00 tomorrow it will officially be re break I will not be taking any calls from anybody from the school district anybody association with with mcps no
I'm just kidding I'm I'm looking forward to Spring Break and if I'm looking forward to Spring Break and I'm not in the trenches like the teachers and and the staff that do it every day I'm not in the trenches like they are I know they have to be ready for a spring break I
know uh you need this this this week off this time off um so please I'm encouraging you to please um I know we have some principles that are so dedicated they're going to they're going to work they're going to use spring break to work and catch up I want to encourage them even if you do take some
time to do some work please take some time for yourself um and to to decompress to get away to do something just to detach from the school district for a little bit um I do want to remind everyone that the um
survey for naming the schools ends on tomorrow uh if you have not looked at it you haven't um thought about it there's two elementary schools in District 3 that need a name um I know one that's kind of
already kind of coming out there um I won't say it here because I want every to vote but however I encourage everyone to please make sure they get their name in the deine tomorrow so again I hope everyone have a wonderful spring break
and um back in the day when I was a college student on Fridays they used to have this um commercial Jeremy you probably appreciate that I W say the commercial because I'm not promoting anything but the logo was um head for
the mountains I'm heading for the mountain don't get stuck in any bushes not getting bushes it's time to go thank you Reverend cumings yes all righty
then I'll just say that I appreciate the continued um willingness and also um the ex not even just the expectation it is specified in our inter local agreement that we shall
meet and I our joint meeting of elected officials and I think I shared yesterday you know having been in on the ground floor of of beginning to update the interlocal agreement updating the interlocal agreement of meeting together after a
way too long absence over a decade that we are still um evolving and there are going to be some meetings that will likely feel more productive than others um and sure you know there yesterday was
underwhelming in terms of content um even for me but I also still sense a bit of hesitation you know um it it's really important for for all entities and for us to have accurate and
timely information and to have all entities be willing to discuss things publicly I I still sense a lot of hesitation and you know we just brought up today about booster uh well that was brought up in a technical working group when I was still part of it and and even
in that private more private situation you know I could tell that what are we really talking about here I'm not really talking about anything I'm I'm trying to put some ideas forward that will benefit this community you know that's it there's no ulterior motive and and I
understand when it comes to to data science you know it's not rocket science but you have to have the right information and when you have a difference in how density is being calculated um between
the city and the county and then the comprehensive plan is involved and you know would there be any interest in changing adjusting or tweaking the comprehensive plan I have no idea but just the way I think is you put everything on the table because that's
what we were elected to do and and and work together and I don't know maybe there's been too many alterior motives and agendas back in the day and and that's what makes folks hesitant to communicate public those meetings will become more productive if everyone would just take a deep breath and and share
the challenges share the successes and in that Spirit of working together and I maintained that through it was more than I don't know 22 meetings or something just to you know get it all started so I have confidence in the process and and it will continue um to improve the last
thing I'll say is you know it's spring break be safe have fun come back that's all I have all right thank you Bard on time thank you board I I want to thank you all um for showing up yesterday for our joint meeting
everyone was present everyone actively participated our staff was there to answer questions and present information and I just want to share with you there was quite a bit of conversation before yesterday's meeting um about presenting
data and the technical working group was hesitant to present any data until they were certain it was right and so um just know that that that consensus um did involve the county um they too felt
strongly about being sure to not put forth information um that was not correct and so uh yesterday there wasn't a lot if any new data shared um but I will tell you I was happy that everybody
was in same room it was nice to be I hope hopeful I am hopeful that it was worth an hour and a half of everyone's time to keep me move my tongue is tied I have been here too long um to keep moving forward for us to continue to
work together to make Maran County a great place to educate and raise a family so so I hope that everybody found value in that um I want to say thank you to everybody that presented this morning thank you um to the sheriff and to Chief
for spending their valuable time with us this morning Chief Falon Chief and chief Holland from Bel thank you um I just am grateful that they took the time to be here uh with us uh and share their expertise with us
this morning um thank you to Mr sdge and his team for those things that are uh programs that are being expanded in Maran County and the opportunities it presents for our students and Mr Tucker and Dr Brewer for moving us forward in
athletics um that priority hasn't happened in a long time so we're grateful grateful for that um lastly uh what I wanted to share with you Bo is it was just so very brief I'm sorry that the conversation got so heated because what I had to say was so very basic and
so I just wanted to share um that in meeting with attorney powers and Terry that just to thinking about how you as a board want to move forward and and what I heard today is we're interested in having fsba come in and give us some
directions and then be thinking about do we want to have an RFP which is what was used before and I am told it went very well um it was a good process and things that were involved were surveys and Town
Hall meetings and so um those are all things I sh because they were on my list they were important to me to get um input from um the community and so those questions those are on on the calendar of things they did in the past are we
looking at a direct hire um are we looking at hiring an interim while we put out put out an RFP so literally those are the three or four things that I just wanted to share with you those are um options that we have moving forward I wanted you to the to think
about them um do any research that you may want want to do and some already have done and so I just wanted to share that with you um as we prepare for next week um week and a half two weeks yeah a
week off um for spring break ahead so looking forward for that break I obviously need it and so just looking looking forward for your input when we come back on Monday um I know everyone has a lot of ideas to share and I know that a board member thrower and board
member Cummings have been through this process and so I'll be excited for your input and guidance as we um move through the process with that I just want to say that we have a special administrative briefing and work session on March 24th
at 9:00 am which we've referenced several times we have a school board meeting on March 25th at 5:30 p.m. and if there is no further bus do have a question for the board since um the board mentioned it would like to have um
or or at least one board member did and I'm hearing that from you you'd like to have somebody from fsba appear for the 244th work session is that correct okay because this item is then one that I need that that this item is one that
somebody's got to put that in action so um go ahead and what miss m told me was she would be awaiting a phone call from chair Conrad if that's the direction the board was interested in she would like to hear from you directly uh and then
once that happens she can depending on scheduling certainly could either be available telephonically or VI Zoom or something or uh potentially even in person and then that raises the next point that if it were to be um something
telephonic or by Zoom um we would also have perhaps some trouble integration with integration of that um so I would need to get with Mr Christian and his production staff to figure out what what we need to do for that so there's
there's details of whenever we set up any kind of meeting that I that somebody's got to do so I want to make sure that I have as much information as possible so that in good faith when I'm trying to do those things I don't end up with any difficulties along the way so shair Conrad's going to contact UM I
will reach out I will line up and Mr Christian I guess I will need to visit with you because in previous conversations I don't remember the topic but Zoom is definitely an issue because of the audio correct I just made a request to have
one of the tech team members come back uh we we have a process that may work for a zoom meeting it will involve it it could involve that screen being on stage with a camera mounted on top of it the audio is fine we can usually carry the
audio through a telephone like we have done for many of you when you have not been able to attend a board meeting it's the video component as ironic as that sounds because it it it doesn't all go through the same conduit if that makes sense okay can get
through yes right that's absolutely true thank you Kevin for starting on that so quickly okay then along those lines also um I understand that we have uh on that admin work access agenda it is listed up there um with an item title um but
there's essentially it's left blank as a board item for discussion correct has been cre and it's been advertised on our website as well as we've um toaz I can put it on the if you like as well no Cal Gazette is if it if it went there and
we've properly done it we're I just want to check all the details thank you very much um M chair thank you um I would just like to offer this um seeing that we getting ready to have this work session on the 24th um seeing that
things have been memorialized I would like to ask that the legal department just put us together a pack of what happened last time what the process was what that timeline was those things that happen
doesn't have to be anything long but that would be something that we all look at uplo well you do know I'm about to send my entire cre crew off on a spring break for a week here and uh and and I and and our our legal department is currently uh
uh half my department is ill at the moment as well so and uh I'll I'll be I'll be working thank you um and I think I just think that would be helpful for all of us now that being said that packet I I'll do what I can but I don't know that I'll be able to upload such
historical packet it do all that like a oneel was a yeah and that and I think that would be so helpful for the conversation um I think that would help those that were here those that were not
here right and honestly in the community and and I I mostly have that kind of completed because it was kind of what I was asked to do for for board comments today yes thank you couple of one pages of straightforward visuals I think that help anything
else no further bus we willj at 1212 thank you thank you thank you e