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Good evening. I will call to order the finance committee meeting on July 13, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. Uh we have three items on the agenda this evening. Uh proposed ordinance amendment uh to the city code

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chapter 125 personnel. uh proposed richer K through5 elementary school project bond uh in the amount of $160,544,91 and also a proposed storm water bond in the amount of $6,300,000.

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I will begin um with order number 26-1009778. Um that the proposed uh ordinance amendment to the city code chapter 125 personal personnel section five preparation of classification descriptions and to chapter 125

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personnel section six uh salary schedule relative to the position of recreation coordinator. Um, I'll read the uh letter submitted uh by the mayor. Dear council president Oing and counselors, enclosed for your review and

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approval is a job description and salary ordinance for the recreation coordinator position. This position is covered under the collective bargaining agreement between the city of Malro and the Malro Municipal Employees Association, MMEA,

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and has been reviewed and approved by MMEA. Uh the purpose of this job description is to align the growing and evolving needs of the recreation department through the reorganization of the positions within the department. U this job description has been uh

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recalibrated due to the collective collaboration between the recreation director, human resources department, the mayor's office, and MMEA. Uh the former city uh senior clerk position within the recreation department uh no longer aligns with the

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operational needs of the department. Uh to to improve efficiency and better support departmental functions. Um, a restructuring was undertaken that reinstated the assistant recreation director position and combined the responsibilities from the former program

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manager and the senior clerk position into the recreation coordination coordinator position. Uh, the proposed salary ordinance amendment places the position at the same level as the head clerk pay schedule. Uh while city council approval is required and

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appreciated, any modifications to the job description or compensation uh structure would constitute uh a change to the terms that were negotiated and agreed upon and would therefore require further discussion within the union prior to implementation. Please do not

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hesitate to contact me or my office with any questions. Sincerely, Jay Christian Dumis mayor. Um I will uh open this up to committee. Um, this is something that I support and I know um uh uh Chuck

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Fibrero has been working diligently to get this the the director getting this uh toward the city council. Council Vital. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. The uh this position is is very much needed uh down the recreation department. This this is

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one of the few organizations DPW being another one of few, but there are 247 they're in need down there at the recreation department. and having somebody who has the um the skill set to be able to uh prioritize and divvy out responsibilities uh to the managers and

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to DBW and other other uh departments across the city is critical for the department. So I strongly suggest that we we uh approve the description and salary ordinance for the recreation commissioner or coordinator. >> Is that is that your motion? >> It is my motion.

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>> Motion has been made. I will second that uh to approve order number 261009778 that the proposed ordinance amendment to the city code chapter 125 personnel section 5 preparation classification descriptions and to chapter 125 personnel section 6 salary schedule and

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the job description of the recreation coordinator. Any further discussion? Mr. Chair, councelor Fel. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would just uh ask that we also make sure that we advertise um and as well as ask for a suspension when this is reported out on >> we could do that. That's a good good

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point council and we're okay with that committee and to uh to advert suspension and to advertise all in. Mr. President, >> thank you Mr. Chair. I just want to point out to the committee that before us on next Monday's night, we're going to be approving salary changes to the

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recreation director, the assistant recreation director, and then with this one, there's going to be a $39,000 shortfall or transfer that's going to be needed to pay for all these positions. All right. So, even though, you know, everybody's all excited about them, we still got to pay for them. Thank you,

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Mr. Chair. >> Thank good point, Mr. President. All in favor? One, two, three, four, five. It carries five to zero with the suspension to advertise as well. Moving on to uh agenda item 26-19766

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uh proposed Richard K through5 elementary school project bond in the amount of 160 million544,91. And I'll begin by reading the letter submitted by the mayor. Honorable President Oing and counselors enclose for your review and approval of

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two bond authorization request uh for the richest school project in the amount of $160,544,91 to be bonded for the built built of the school and $6,300,000 uh for the capital improvement project for storm water flooding. Our journey

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toward a new richer school began in the summer of 2024. Since then, we have successfully completed several milestones, including the selection of the owner's project manager, OPM, in the feasibility study and the schematic design phase. This vote will not only

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allow the project to move forward, but will have the final determination and the reimbursement rate. Uh we are submitting the bond request for the total projected dollar amount of the project because this is the process used to fund the project and cover its cost.

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Uh we will receive the final determination of the city's cost during the June 24th MS MSBA meeting and vote and determination of the re reimbursement total. Uh in the enclosed packet you will find a letter from OPM

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vertex with a breakdown of the cost and the expected reimbursement totals. Uh these numbers are preliminary and are not final. uh based on the schedule date of the upcoming vote by MSBA on June 24th, the city council schedule, uh we needed to submit the packet for this

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meeting so you are as a body can approve the bonds and project costs at the Jul July 20th city council meeting. Uh the goal is to have this referred to the finance committee prior to the July city council meeting. Uh the following uh the June 24 MSNBA vote. Representatives from

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Vertech will attend the committee meeting uh to answer any questions, discuss the final project figures, and provide an update on the outcome of the MSBA vote uh regarding the bond of the storm water infrastructure improvements. Uh this has been a long-standing issue

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uh in the area that requires necessary attention. uh with the construction of the new school moving forward. The opportunity to address this critical infrastructure need is now. Taking action at this time will help make sure the necessary improvements are made to support both the community and future

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developments. Uh we do not fix the storm water issue and build the school. We may see increase uh in flooding in the neighborhood that abuts the site. Uh, thank you for your flexibility and accommodating meeting times as we work to maintain this ambitious schedule and achieve a fall 2029

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opening. I want to thank the school building committee, all the subcommittees, Vertech, LPA, architects, school committee, city council, and everyone who has done their part uh to get this project to this milestone. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.

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Sincerely, J. Christian Dumism. And we did we did through our email as well receive the letter from uh the uh the MSNBA um determining uh that we were approved. Um at this time I would like to bring up

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for you yeah if you could do your uh introduction and start your slideshow as well. Thank you Chris. So, um, my name is Christopher Eberly. I'm the project executive from the Vert.ex companies. We've been working with the city of Marboro since October

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of 2024. With me tonight is John Lemieux, our senior managing director um, for the Vert.ex company. Also joining us um as needed is um Peter Caruso, Chris Lee, and Christina Basman. For those on this side, she's behind the

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column. Um they are the principal in charge, project manager, and project architect from Lamar Pagano Architects. Um also with us tonight as needed for the um storm water is Ted Scott. And um

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so I'd like to thank you for uh having us here tonight. We've been working for quite a while on this um since October 24 and since February 25 with the designers to advance this exciting important project. The project

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the project is at about 30% of its overall design phase at this time. And so this is the time that the MSBA has you vote to approve the total project budget. As you can see on the screen, as you can see on the screen, um we have

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progressively decreased the pro cost of this project both in terms of its soft cost and also its construction cost as we've developed this since our initial numbers were available in June of 2025. And with the most recent cost, we are looking at a total project cost

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inclusive of the previously authorized 2 million for the feasibility study of $162,544,91. Now, this these refinements have been the work of LPA, the work of Vert.Ex, and the work of the school building committee as they've made disciplined decisions throughout the project to

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ensure that the project comes in at an affordable cost for the taxpayers at Marboro. Here you can see a chart that is put out by the MSBA that places all of the projects that are within their purview on the same chart with their bid dates. As you can see, we've highlighted

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the GoodNow project because at the time, the GoodNow project within its one-year time frame was the lowest cost project in the MSBA pipeline. Now, at that time, you could build a project for almost close almost at the reimbursement rate

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in terms of funding caps, but one of the things that we noticed is that with the richer project that we're proposing tonight, not only were we again the um lowest cost MSBA project within the last year, but similar to the Good Now

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project that was 5% below the cost of its next nearest project, we're 4% below the cost of the next nearest project. another vertex project in Rethm. Now, as we look at the budget, it's think it's important for you to

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understand that this budget is all-incclusive. The MSBA has a fairly restrictive um schedule that's included in your packet that describes all the areas of a project and making sure that you budget comprehensively for the

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project both in terms of covering design fees, covering soft costs, covering FFN and technology, covering the construction itself, and also carrying a healthy contingency in putting together this budget. The OPM designer services,

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the estimated construction cost, the furniture fixture and equipment are all professionally estimated. So we brought in an estimator that working with the Vertex company, an estimator working with LPA. They both estimated the same drawings and they reconciled those to

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arrive at that construction cost. We also had um LPA working with their consultants develop a furniture cost based on actual pricing and a review of what furniture was necessary so that we could establish an accurate budget. And we reviewed the technology and computers

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that would be part of the project. Now those two are important because the MSBA also reimburses for those costs. So it's important to both find a reasonable for the project value but also to include something that will maximize the reimbursement that is available on a per

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student basis. We've also um as I mentioned you have already appropriated 2 million of this amount and I think that's important to echo because it really it lowers the amount that you're looking to spend. Now,

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now in your packet, there is a very, very complex spreadsheet. And that spreadsheet takes into account all the things that the MSBA uses when they determine what your reimbursement is, and in making sure that you have a comprehensive budget. It'll take into

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account their categorically ineligible costs, which are based on the guidelines of the grant program that you're pursuing. It will take into account the cost and budget caps, any ineligible building area, any reimbursement rates or changes to those reimbursement rates,

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and the eligibility of things like contingency, but also things that are excluded scope. Now, it would take us hours to go through all the details of this. And so what I've developed today is a way to try and simplify this for all of you so that I can uh

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informatively explain how the system works and what the reimbursement will be for the city of Marbor. Now this is the reader digest version of the MSBA program. Ultimately what it means is that you are going to receive

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your base rate for all eligible costs. The base rate is recalculated up until you come to the agreement with the MSBA and they actually raised your base rate based on socioeconomic fa factors that they study from when you originally agreed to the feasibility study. So

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moving forward you'll have a higher reimbursement rate. They evaluate your maintenance school score and they found that you were in the top 25 percentile in terms of maintenance at the schools that they look at. So you got an extra 1.54%

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on top of that. We've also made the decision that you would be moving forward with the green schools program. And so by meeting the requirements of the opt-in energy code and delivering a school that provides a higher quality of air quality for the students, you'll get an additional 4% of those eligible

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costs. Now, I keep saying the same thing, which is eligible costs, and that's an important component of the MSBA grant program. They put certain caps in place and I've shown some of them on the screen here that establish up to those amounts they will reimburse those costs. Now in their analysis of

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your total project budget they found that 86% of those costs in that budget were eligible. And so of those amount that is what you will receive your 78.8% 8% reimbursement on works out to be about 63% in total of the costs of the

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project will be coming back to Marbor from the state. So here I've just illustrated a little bit about how that reimbursement works. It's a paid as spent. So you as you incur costs associated with the grant program, the MSBA will receive a

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reimbursement request that will itemize those costs as the warrants go out to pay those bills. They review those. They audit them on the fly throughout the entire process. And that based on what those eligible costs determined by that audit are, you'll receive the payments

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periodically, usually monthly throughout the course of the project. I've illustrated here sort of the two differences because what you'll find is that much more of the costs in the design phase are eligible. And so I've illustrated using the cash flow that's in your packet what you can expect in

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terms of reimbursement should all of the facts and figures that we have provided show to be eligible after that audit. And what you find is that about 74% of those costs in design end up being reimbursed. When you get to

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construction, you're much more exposed to the cost caps. They work out to be just under $700 um per square foot. And so of that amount of that cost cap because you are so much higher than it at the $79 uh $2

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per square foot that the project came in at, you're actually that first 100 or 90 or so dollars a square foot is not reimbursed. The effect of that is that when you get to construction versus design where you're getting 74% of the

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costs in design, by the time you're in construction, you're closer to 63. But construction makes up so much of the overall grant reimbursement that ultimately should you spend every dollar you would get 63% of those dollars back

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from the state if the eligibility calculations after audit prove true through the course of the job. Now, to make that clearer, I came up with a couple of different scenarios here to help explain how your decisions

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and the school building committee's decisions as they move through this project can have a huge effect on your reimbursement. So, the first option in the green box is that you decide to spend every dollar within your budget. You follow all the rules. Everything ends up eligible. The city of Marorrow

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can look at a project that is 160,000 square ft that they would get for 59,400 and $9,098 which is a great value. It's much better than a lot of communities are getting from the MSBA. Now, construction, let's

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say, comes in 5% under budget. You hire your CM, they get their bids, and we find out that the bids are 5% down. What you can see here is that while the um constru or the eligible costs are almost

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the same, you're still getting $103,59,92. So, you're only losing roughly $70,000 in grant, but you're spending $6 million less because the way that they do they

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calculate it is that they calculate where you are at bid. They'll adjust your grant down. They'll say, "Oh, this what we thought would be construction, that's that $70,000 you're not going to need because your bid came in low, but we'll still pay you up to a quarter% of

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your soft cost contingency and up to 1% of your construction contingency." Now, let's say the bid comes in, we spend everything up to up to bidding. The bid comes in exactly on target, but we're disciplined in the construction phase. we don't encounter a lot of unforeseens.

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When that extra scope comes up, the school building committee says, "We don't really need that. We want to be fiscally disciplined as they've been through the process." In that case, you're still going to get that same grant because you've spent every dollar up to that point, but the total project

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cost to the city is going to be 54,919,997. And the reason is that because they cap your cost. All that spending above that cost is spending that is paid for 100% by the city of Marboro. Whereas the spending under those cost caps get

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reimbursed. And the best dollar spent is the one that you don't spend because you get that full dollar back for all that stuff over the top that you don't need to put the money into. Now, it's important because construction

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is schedule and cost. It's important to just touch on the schedule and see what the commitments that we're working on here are. We're coming to you today because our schedule requires a very aggressive approach. We're currently procuring the CM. Now, I know you previously this body voted to approve

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the CM at risk approach. We're currently soliciting qualifications and we hope to have the CM CM on board in October. We're moving forward with design development which is roughly 50% of the design phase hopefully by the end of the year and then we'll be doing early

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packages as early as March. And the goal would be that we have a 100% of the drawings one year from now going to bid, but we'd have early packages that would allow us to start early mobilization and early um structure packages so that we

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can begin the wheels moving of the construction machine and really have shovels in the ground as soon as school is out at the richer school at the end of this school or this next school year. So, all told, that's what allows us to open the school in the fall of 2029

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and close out the construction in the summer of 2030 after we've finished all of that site work that we're not able to get done because eventually winter will hit. And with your permission, Mr. Chair, I'll just continue on the storm water. >> Thank you. Thank you.

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>> Um, so the storm water came up through the course of the job. It was identified by the DPW that they had a recurrent issue at Ripley and McGee Avenue where every three years or so they would have substantial flooding. And the substantial flooding would occur at the

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intersection of um Ripley A and McGee, but it would also occur through this area that is also wetlands on the back side of the site. And so we wanted to understand what the impact of that storm water would be on the project

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and how the project's impact would also affect that storm water. And so uh we retained the civil engineer through the designer niche engineering to do a study to they did um hydroad which is some computer modeling of how drainage works

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within the area. And they determined that while the school only committed 3% to the problem, the problem encroached on the school, it encroached on the southern entrance, which serves as both a bus and parent entrance to the school. And so it had the potential of if you're

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going to spend $162 million to build this school, wouldn't you want to make sure that we're keeping the water from taking taking over? So in discussions with the DPW, we researched various ways that we could move forward with it. We identified a budget um working with the

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DPW and um Tom Deersio who is also here tonight and we identified that it's about $5 million in construction to pursue two of the options that were in that study and a contingency was reasonable for design costs of about $1.3 million that would pay to bring the

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designer on board and to do the to run the project separately from the school project entirely as a DPW project. That was an important distinction because the MSBA will only allow you to have one project as part of their vote. They want

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it to be entirely separate for various reasons, legal procurement requirements, as well as they want to make sure that when they report on the cost of schools, they're reporting on the cost of the school, not the cost of the school plus whatever the city or town decides to

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tack on to it. So ultimately what we're before you today to discuss is that you have a budget before you that's $162,554 or 544,91.

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You have already appropriated 2 million of those dollars. So you are looking at a school that will give you that will cost you $160,544,91. The MSBA, if you spend every dollar, will give you $103,34,993.

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If you spend everything but half your contingency, they will give you that same amount. When you take that out, you're looking at the total cost of that school being 57,49,98. And if you take the add the storm water to that to that, the two appropriations

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combined are 63,79,98. Similar to what we did when we visited the urban affairs committee for PSR, we reached out to the treasurer and asked him to help us with the tax impact. He found that for the average um median

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home, the annual impact would be on average $19323. And in that highest single year, which is about year three, it would be $275.50, which both numbers are um about $20

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lower than they were at PSR. And as the letter that we have provided to each of you tonight also states, the MSBA has confirmed at their board meeting that they will fund the project. So the next step would be to enter into a project scope and budget agreement

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with the MSBA pending approval of the financing. So if you vote next week to fund the project, that would be the next step. We like to describe the project scope and budget and the project funding agreement is like buying a house. You put in an offer and you sign that offer.

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That's your project scope and budget agreement. And then your project funding agreement is the thing that actually starts the grant flowing. So that's what those two documents are. So should this committee ultimately vote to fund the project on Monday, those would be the

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two next step and then the MSBA would begin the reimbursement project. LPA and Vert.Ex would continue to design your building and by the time we get to October, we'll have a third partner in on board with the CM so that we can deliver this school in 2029.

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With that, I will open it up to questions that myself or any of the assembled partners that we've worked with very successfully on this project are able to answer for you. >> Thank you, Chris. Council vital. >> Mr. Chair, could we please have Mr.

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Dispersio give us a little breakdown of what the uh the the water projects going to entail? Is thank thank you city engineer Deersio. Uh thank you counselors. So, uh, Chris

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did a good job of explaining kind of how we came to the decision that this drainage project, um, needs to be done in conjunction with the school project. And Niche engineering, uh, did a good job at a high level of

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breaking down all the different components to this drainage issue. Um, the short version is that Milham Brook is piped through the neighborhood there. When that neighborhood was built, they took the brook and put it in the

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drainage trunk lines through the neighborhood that are they're undersized now. And what happens in intense storm events is where the brook enters the drainage system, it searchcharges and and floods that area as Chris said and

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uh sort of the wetland system that really surrounds that whole southern part of the school site. It's all tied into that Milham Brook flow. Um so there's a couple phases we call them of the drainage project that we're

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uh in the design uh phase is started now. One is to kind of double up the size of that trunk line. Um that's a big project. It's it's difficult to develop

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>> right all the way through. Uh that's one piece of it and the other piece is going to involve um some of the mass DOT infrastructure for the highway. Um there's a big uh stealing basin they call it that's behind the school

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and uh and a drainage channel doesn't function properly. So that's that's a piece of it that we're going to have to get Mass DOT. We've started conversations with them to get them on board for that work. Um, and I also want

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to do some work at uh the Lake Williams Dam because to the extent we can kind of get a spillway there that we can easily control, we can maybe close that in advance of a big storm and kind of delay that that part of the flow too. So there's several different components to

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it. But that's kind of the overview. >> Scheduling. If this gets approved by this body, when can you begin? So, we're we're working on the drainage improvement part through the neighborhood inhouse now. So, um we

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anticipate anticipate being ready to go out to bid with that part when we have the funding. >> And the other part, like I said, we're working with Mass DOT, so we're a little bit beholden to their schedule. So, hopefully we can get them uh to move on

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that part of it, too. Our ideal schedule was to do it in concert with the school so that it'd be a separate contractor. They'd be doing the work on their own, but we'd do it in two phases ideally. One that begins as soon as the um winter

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ends next year and then the second one would begin um the following year. So that by the time we open the school, the goal would be that both are um are complete. Obviously that requires

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to work with the city and the other components there. And um we've had lots of conversations with the DPW to make sure that the contractor that we hire for the school understands their role in um working with that contractor and getting them access when they need to

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through the site to make sure that the both can occur concurrently. >> Right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, engineer Dersio. Council or Is there a question for >> a question? Uh Tom, you can stay up

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there too. Um >> so how much lineal feet are are there in this pipe that we have to replace? >> Uh I don't know the exact number, but it's uh it's over a,000 feet.

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>> I see. So it's going to go through several streets then. >> It is. >> It has to be replaced rather through. >> Yeah. all the way to the outfall at Glen. >> And that was my other question, the outfall. Where is the outfall and will it be able to handle I'm sure you've studied it. Will it be able to handle all this additional flow?

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>> Yeah. So, the outfall is at Glen Street it back into Milham Brook. Um that section of the brook has uh has the capacity to handle that. >> Okay. And there's no detention basins planned for this or anything like that to slow it down before

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>> No, there's really there's really no place to do anything like that. Thank you. >> Well, that being said, the new school will have detention on the facility. So, that that piece of it, that's going to be an improvement as well. >> Thank you. Thank you, Engineer Depers.

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I'll open up to any further questions of the council. No. Uh, President Os chairman. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was wondering if I could have uh the comproller and then maybe Chris answer these questions.

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So the the tax impact, right? I mean, it's nice to say we want a new school and how much it's going to cost, but you know, people want to know what's it going to cost them, right? And that that's So you go through a scenario where you say it's up

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to $275, then drops down. Could you give it up? Could you or Brian give us a insight as to why it's because my mortgage doesn't go up or down, right? My mortgage is fixed at this rate and it's good for 30 years. If Brian can answer that easily, more

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easily than I can while I shuffle through my papers and find >> the tax impact. >> So, all good. All right. Thank you. Um, so the city, we do our bonding. We're very aggressive. We do level principal unlike

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your mortgage which is a level payment. So your mortgage is the same over 30 years we'll say amount every month. The way the city does it we divide we take the principal we divide it by the number

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of years and we take that level out the every year so that we pay a lot more upfront and less later on in the schedule. Why we do it that way is because as you know we're always adding more bonds. So as that one declines then

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we bring on the next one and decline we bring on the next one. If you do it where it's always level you're always adding to that payment. So we try to do it this way and also it saves you interest by paying a lot of principal upfront level principal you pay less

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interest over the life of the project and in this case it's millions of dollars. So, so that's the point I wanted the public to understand and why the why the payment schedule is set up that way so that it actually does benefit the tax base because what's not

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said here is a $35 million fire station which is now going to add another $150 to the average tax bill. All right. We have a capital plan that has not come down yet that usually runs in the order of 10 to12 million that's going to add

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my math $50 to the average tax bill. So as you vote on this, it's not just a single bond. You need to take the whole concept. Now I'm confident the city's got the capacity to handle it. Now, the taxpayers may not like the fact that we

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have the capacity to handle it, but that what you're voting on is going to be, you know, increasing the average tax by about $275 if both project Well, both projects have to be approved in order to make the project work. You can't just do

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the school and not do the the storm water. Storm to me, the storm water, we need it regardless of whether we do the school or not. the storm water piece has got to is going to have to get done and that would show up on a future capital plan. So Chris, I'm going to challenge you.

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Um for the good now school, uh we we were able to rescend about $9 million worth of bonds. So I'm going to put it out to you to it came in under budget. It came in ahead of schedule. Um I'm confident you guys can pull off the same feat because we do estimate

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conservatively and that'll all work out in the end. But I just would like to challenge you to the fact that uh uh there's a benchmark before you that was able to resend a significant portion of the bond that we approved for good now. And I'm hoping that you and your team uh can do the same thing. I'm confident you

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will based on the presentations I've seen uh your team make uh in various meetings uh over the last year. So uh hopefully you accept the challenge. >> I I can certainly accept that challenge. Um, while uh as any financial adviser

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will tell you, past results are not a guarantee of the future, I can tell you that my MSBA project that is closest to construction um had a $159 million budget and it is currently $22

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million under budget at with another year and a half to go. So councils, I'm not guaranteeing this, but I'm just saying past performance. I mean, they are estimates. They they put the best they can because they're trying to predict what the price of wood,

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steel, pick the product is going to be 3, four years from now. Uh, and what labor costs are going to be, but uh hopefully they've done their uh proper estimating and this should be the highest it is and not come in any higher

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than what they're projecting. If you want, John wants to say something. >> I'll let John join in because he has much more statistics about >> Oh, I'm not going to give statistics, but what I will say is um you know, having the benefit of a CM on our team in the next few months. That's the benefit of the builder that's actually

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going to do the project. And in this year, as we keep moving forward, you check that you're well within that schematic design budget at design development. You check it again at construction document. So, we're going to have numerous occasions and we will challenge that CM as well. Just, hey,

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just because we have X amount of millions for construction, we want you to do better. We're hiring you to come to the table to help give us ideas to do better. So, that if we don't have it, LPA doesn't have it. Hey, CM, what have you done recently that can help bring this thing in to keep our project in

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that lower right hand corner? Because listen, it's it's great because I've sat in communities where that number is at the other end and it's a it's a much harder discussion, but I think the team's done a phenomenal job with keeping the numbers down. And the challenge is finding the right CM that

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will sing that sheet of music with us so that we can, you know, we talk in extremes because it's easier for the math. If you spend all of this, you will get all of this. But that was my question or my comment to Chris was the best dollar is the one not spent. You don't worry about any reimbursement in a

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dollar if it never comes out of your pocket. Right? And that's that's super important these days where we know this is not the only community we hear that very same list of capital coming, you know, potential issues with operating budgets, right? All sorts of things. So,

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we we hear it and we, you know, we take it to heart because ultimately, you know, we want you to be happy and not stress over this thing from, you know, from the get-go. So, we're going to work to work to do just that. >> Thank you, John. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. >> Thank you, President Ozie. Council Vital.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Gentlemen, it's my understanding that all furnishings, all equipment, all technology is going to be reimbursed. So, we're going to get a new school with everything new inside. >> Correct. There is a limit to the reimbursement in terms of they do it per student. So they have um I'm not going

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to know the number off >> about00,900 for furnishings per student and 1,700 for for technology. >> Do you guys believe that that will be >> Oh, especially >> it's more challenging at an older school

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for high middle school and high school where there's that much more technology where the furniture is bigger. It's easier to achieve in a small in small school for the smaller humans, right? >> So if we so if we have a new school, new new furnishings, new equipment, new technology, we have an old school what

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has all that stuff. Is there any value to that facility and what's in it? >> So it's a great question and that's part of what will be discussed as the project keeps moving. What do you want to do with the the old old stuff? Do you want to recycle it through the the other

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schools? Is it, you know, is some of the stuff in Richer 10 years old and they're in other schools it's 20? Yeah, absolutely. The value is is more of that value to you. Um, ultimately when the CM is on board, they aren't coming on board to manage that, but they will be part of

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the process to say, okay, if we've got to empty the school out, you know, this is going to be part of our number. If we're going to recycle it, here's what we can suggest. Um, or it's a wholesale, guys. It's all yours. take it and use it, you know, as you like. But

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>> to add to that, um, I had to take the glasses off for this one. Um, the budget carries about 4.15 million for technology and furniture combined. Of that, all but 847,000

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are reimbursed. Now, we base that off of an actual accounting of what we think the furniture will be at this time using unit costs at this time and a little bit of contingency and a little bit of escalation. Now, we have to do that now so that we make sure we carry an

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appropriate budget so that we can deliver on the goals of Marboro by the time we get to buying that stuff in 2029. But the reality is that we're going to make decisions the closer we get to those about every aspect of this budget to try and deliver the project for the

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best value for the citizens of Marboro. And if we can deliver it for, you know, that 3.2 two, by reusing something because that's the decision that the school building committee chooses to move forward. That just adds to that graphic I showed you where every dollar

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that you don't spend of that $847,000 that comes straight out of Marboro. MSBA is not paying that portion of it, but you want to make sure you get every dollar that MSBA is paying for. >> Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Council vital. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, John. Any further discussion in the

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committee? If no further discussion, I will entertain a motion. >> Mr. Chair, >> Council Fill. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I've enjoyed the presentation and conversation and um with that would move to approve the proposed richer K- through5 elementary

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school project bond in the amount of $160,544,91. >> Thank you, Council Mitchell. Uh motion's been made and seconded uh to approve order number 26-1009766 proposed Richard School K through5 elementary school project bond and the

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appropriation amount of $160,544,91. Any further discussion? Council Fill. >> Mr. Chair, I would just ask that um that uh a suspension is asked at the next meeting. >> Thank you, Council Fil. Absolutely. Well noted. >> All in favor? One, two, three, four,

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five. That carries with the suspension. Thank you, Council Fill. Uh, next up is order number 26-1009766. Uh, proposed storm water bond in the amount of 6,300,000 for the design, construction, and

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improvement of the storm water drainage and related municipal infrastructure. Um, we were uh nicely educated by uh engineer Dersio. So, I will certainly entertain a motion on this if the committee is ready to do so. >> Mr. Chair, >> Council Fill.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh move to approve the proposed storm water bond in the amount of $6,300,000. >> Thank you, Council Vill. Motion's been b been made and I will second that to approve order number 10766, proposed storm water bond on the appropriation

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amount of $6,300,000 for the design, construction, improvement of the storm water drainage and related municipal infrastructure. Any further discussion? Councelor Ducet. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Just for a clarification, there is no state coverage of this expense. This is all on

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us, right? >> That is correct. That is correct. >> Wanted to confirm that. >> And as uh President Oing mentioned earlier too and engineered approve, these are things that needed to be done. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Completely understandable. Yes. >> Thank you, Council. >> Motion have made and seconded. All in

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favor? One, two, three, four, five. That carries with a suspension. Council >> about to ask. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you so much, M. Thank you so much, Filla. Council Fill. With that said, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. >> Mr. Chair,

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>> motion to adjurnn. >> Motion has been made and seconded to adjourn. All in favor? 1 2 3 4 5. We are adjourned at 7:15 p.m. Thank you.