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go ahead and call the April 27th CRA meeting to order. First up is the pledge of allegiance. >> Sorry, >> that's okay. >> To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First up is the approval of the minutes from the March 23rd meeting. >> We should all have copies. Any

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questions, concerns, comments? >> No, I think yeah, we have >> I have a motion by Cadilla. >> Second. >> Second from J. >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? Not opposed. >> Moving on to the disclosure of conflicts

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of interest. Does anyone have any conflicts of interest? for this meeting? >> No, sir. >> Seeing none. All right. Into the comment portion of our agenda. Um, this is open to the public. Please stand and state your name

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for the record. You'll have three minutes to speak. If anyone wants to speak now or you can wait until your agenda item comes up. Nobody's jumping up to speak. So, we'll move into the presentations. First up is the CRA Portso open space

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plan. Hello. >> I'll bring it up. You introduce yourself. >> Uh Jessica Seymour with Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council. I'm also joined with uh Dana Little as well from our office, the urban design director for uh Treasure Coast. Um I think many

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of you are already familiar with um who we are but uh just a little context um for anyone who's listening we um are one of 10 planning agencies um regional planning councils uh across the state and we go where uh local uh governments

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ask us to go. So uh we were asked by the CRA in this case to develop the open space plans for each of the CRAAS. We're starting first with Port Solerno and the open space plans. The requirement to do them came from the comprehensive plan and there are two objective one

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objective and one policy that mentioned the open space plans. Um and I like this uh objective this first one. Um read the language to facilitate the attainment of coordinated system of public open space and recreational areas within the CRA.

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So in other words, um it's not just about taking a look at where there are open spaces, but how they can be coordinated and um connected to the communities. Um the open space plan um indicates the general location of desired open space and pedestrian and cyclist connectivity through the

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community and shall be prepared for each of the CRAAS. Um and when we talk about open space, a little bit of clarity on what that means. It's parks, it's preserves, it's green space. Um it's passive open space. Um I am guilty of

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often just calling them parks, but there's different levels of um impact from them. You you know, for the most impact, you know, might be a playground, whereas another the lowest impact would be a preserve with a fence around the edge of that. So in Port Serno, we first

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went through and identified where all of those existing parks and preserves are. Um the Sea Branch Preserve State Park, for example, is outside of the CRA, but it's very significant and right next door. So, we went ahead and showed that. Um we also included one of the parks

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that's uh actually an HOA owned park. Um so, it's not something that the county necessar, you know, is engaged in maintaining or um owns, but it is a park asset within the within the CRA. So, this is a little snapshot of what that map looks like uh for Port Solerno. And

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the blue circles represent a rough five minute walking radius from each of those spaces. So, again, going back to that language about connected uh open space and preserved space can be better monitored and maintained and appreciated

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by the community if you have access to it. So, we took a lot of looks at how you're going to get to those parks and preserves, whether it means going inside them or enjoying them from a distance. So, this map right here, you'll see pink to indicate the sidewalks. Um the kind

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of orang-ish red are trails or paths that exist that are um that that are existing today. If you zoom in really good, you'll see some hatched ones. Those are ones that are in the works or or planned. Um and then we also have the marked bike lanes and water bodies. The

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unopened ride ofways were really significant in Port Serno. They really changed the way um you move around the community. And so some of the interesting things we came about where we noticed that um I can't I'm like going to laser point my screen.

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Um there's a couple of holes in the in the fabric. Right. So that's a really helpful piece of this exercise um that we were able to identify a couple of areas for the CRA where that connection breaks down. So along Broward, Lincoln Grant, you'll see

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right in this area. Um not as much connectivity. The there's been a lot that's been done around the schools to create more sidewalks. Um but there's some some additional opportunities out there. We did a lot of mapping and so I won't

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go through all of the maps and pieces of data that went into the analysis on open space, but we also looked at publicly owned spaces. That includes anything owned by the school board or um you know other public entities. We looked at storm water infrastructure. Where are

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there places where storm water is being held or treated that could be added to that um uh inventory of green space and open space in Port Salena. Uh we also looked at vacant land, the unopened right ofway I mentioned. So this is a

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map of all those those pieces of the puzzle layered on top of each other. Also really key for Port Solerno is the water courses at its um core. Uh Port Solerno is a water-based community. It's

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all about the the access to the water, supporting clean water, and uh the commercial fishing in the area. So these water courses were particularly significant for this open space plan. We saw that they were an opportunity to

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again create additional eyes on those water courses um access and um long-term maintenance and additional open space through those. I also wanted to mention um you know through the process we've been working

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with with county staff to identify um you know where they see needs within parks and wreck within um environmental restoration um growth management as well. So we've been working um with um and receiving feedback from each of those departments as we've gone through

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this analysis. Um and so some of these water courses were helped to be in were informed by the other um departments. With all that data um we came to this map which shows those existing sidewalks

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and trails and some additional recommended new ones as well as the recommended um rights of way. I didn't mention at the beginning that another layer of this is of course the CRA plan. So we went back to the CRA plan. We said which right ofways were in the CRA plan

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were identified to be open and there were a few that were we had to check against existing conditions because when the CRA plan for example was initially drafted the Serno basin or the Solerno retrofit hadn't been completed right so there were a couple of rights of way

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that were identified to be opened that don't make sense anymore because the basin's there now um there was also some you know again some storm water infrastructure that came into online since And so we wanted to update and reflect those changes in the in the in

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the context. Um we also then in the light green um are all of the recommended parks, preserves, green space or open spaces. And what you can kind of see if I can move the mouse more elegantly is that they start to follow

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those water courses, right? Um, and then along here as well through the Salerno Basin um up through here into um from the the more active park there's actually another inlet to the water. There's one here too along Azimuth Way.

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Then all the way from um Dixie Landing or Manatee Creek, there's one that flows this way. Um so all along those water courses um there were we identified potential opportunities for additional green space or open space within the uh

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Port Solerno. This is a zoom in of that and then each one of those is identified with a key. That key uh then brings us to this Excel, this uh table here where each one has a key, a rank, a project name, a

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description, and in that description, there's a listing of what kind of amenities or opportunities might be on that site. And again, it may be something that's very low impact like a preserve and a soft trail and a fence or it could be opportunities for things

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that, you know, engage more active um park-like settings. Um, we list the stakeholders and of course the stakeholder in every case is the CRA, the citizens, the the neighborhood, but we also wanted to identify if that that

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project included um specific uh you know um if it's something that has to do with water restoration, for example, it needs to be coordinated with the environmental resource division. um if it is in fact a park um a more active park that it needs to engage with the parks and reccks uh

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department or if there are private property holders or if it's entirely within the the county's um right of way. So those are noted there. Um it's also noted if it's included in the CRA plan. Um again generally speaking they're all

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included in the CRA plan. Some of them though they've um evolved over time and so we wanted to reflect that. And then this could be a live document that can continue to be updated by the CRA and in reflecting back when it's included in a CIP plan or included in another um

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fiscal plan for for the next year. Um I want to make a point too of pointing out that each one of these is a very conceptual idea and that from here if a project was um moving forward it would have an extensive amount of public outreach that would follow um an

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extensive amount of planning and design work that would still follow. These are just very conceptual to show that there is a um a plan and a system that would be connected of open space and kind of give some illustrations of

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what those were um as far as concepts. This is the Solerno Creek Park. And again, this is a concept of what that could look like um and some what some of those amenities could be. And again, this would have to go through, you know, subsequent um engagement and public

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outreach and design before it was implemented. But here's a conceptual idea of what could be included. This is a little bit further to the east, I mean, sorry, to the west of there at the um southern end of the old schoolhouse, um which was formerly Head

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Start. There's an existing playground right there. We illustrated an expansion of that, but also importantly a connection back to the existing Seno Basin um sidewalk network that's there and the boardwalk that that exists today.

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This is on um the east side of Solerno Basin off of Grant. So there's a you'll see that there's an unimproved right ofway right here. There's some existing paths along this edge, but there's not an easy way to get there. So if I lived,

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you know, right here, I have this incredible amenity right down the street from me that I can't access very easily. Um, so we illustrated a concept on how that access that access can be created while still protecting the privacy of those those property owners to either side.

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And this is a similar example. This is um and again this was a project that was identified in the CRA plan to enhance the canals that feed the Serno basin. And this is another example of how um you could incorporate again um cleaning

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the water, moving the water to the creek. That was something that was mentioned as an important aspect of what's happened in Port Serno at our at the NAC meeting is that more clean water needs to make its way to the pocket. So this is another way of taking a look at that and enhancing that that uh

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connection to the basin or the Seno retrofit. And the last concept that we we illustrated was Azmouth Way. So this is just around the corner from where the community center is if you're familiar with the area. And right now you've got a lot of informal parking that's

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happening in this this section right there. Um and then this is actually a ride of way that ends in the water. So we illustrated an example of again providing some access to that um that water and formalizing some of the

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parking. Um at the NAC parking did come up as a point of discussion. We don't include parking in a lot of the concept plans or the recommendations for the opportunities because again this is more about providing access to that community through walking and biking and through

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those connections. Um but this one because it was adjacent to that um community center and there was a desire to maybe see some more formalized parking around there. Um and we we saw evidence of it, you know, a need there. So this one included a little bit of

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that. Um you'll also see at the end of the report there's some illustrate some photographs of, you know, adjacent um examples around South Florida, around the county. And actually we included Ripple as an example because it's such a lovely example of what open space can

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be. Um so there's some photographs of examples and again these are here to generate conversations with the community about what they want and don't want going forward. Um and so that there is a again a plan for what comes as far as open space. And this is the timeline

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of where we we're at. We kicked off with the with the county at the beginning of February. A couple weeks ago, we were at the Port Seno NAC and then we're here today for um for adoption hopefully. That's my contact information.

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>> Cool. Thank you very much. Any questions for Jessica? >> I think it's great. I think it was really well done. Really good analysis, great conclusions. I think the ideas are really good. Um I think if I was in Solerno, I'd be really excited about

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this. What did the NYSE have to say? >> So, the biggest concern that they had was maintenance because there's a lot of areas, as you know, in Port Seno that there's a big concern about maintenance. So,

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as you guys have heard, we even have issues with just getting palms trimmed. So, so, um, our biggest concern is just making sure whatever we're implementing that we can maintain and keep up with because we'd hate to put it there and then it just go to ruins. You

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know what I mean? And then there's a couple properties I think that we have to look into as far as purchasing, you know, to to make it make it happen. But, as you know, we love the ripple, you know, concept and the fact that we could implement something to clean the water

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is always an added benefit. So, I think the biggest concern is just that maintenance, you know, put more of the natural, you know, plants in there as opposed to those that, you know, invade like those invasive, you know, species. >> Absolutely. That's I heard I just echo,

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sorry to interrupt, the the um an emphasis on the passive spaces I think was too was something that we heard and then the maintenance you know absolutely was a big concern. What is an advantage of this is that the more connected those existing open spaces are, the more

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awareness of them there are. There could be, you know, you know, more people saying, "Hey, this is really nice. Why aren't we we need to fix that or we need to, you know, put some, you know, some attention and love here. So, we hope that this plan could also help be a part of that conversation."

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>> So, yeah. So, that's that's the biggest concern is just that they want to make sure it's maintained. you know, we don't want to spend all this money and then have to go back in and, you know, clean it up, so to speak. So, >> well, as the design evolves, I'm sure you can we can talk about all the different elements that keep it as

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lowmaintenance, you know, native planting or whatever materials. >> Yeah. Materials that withstand the elements and um you know, maybe not mowed grass or anything like that, but have um >> like the walk space. you guys have more of the natural walkways, not the

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concrete, you know, in ripple and things like that. And not, you know, not putting anything in there that's, you know, too concrete, so to speak. >> Sometimes concrete's good, though, because then the maintenance of that is way less than gravel and

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>> in some areas some areas. Uh that's what I appreciated about Ripple is they really took that into uh you know took it to heart to make sure it was more of a natural environment. >> This analysis is going to happen for all the different NAC's. Correct.

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>> Yes. So next up will be Golden Gate and then everybody will have a turn. >> It'll be really interesting to see all the different NAC's and how the paths and connections of open spaces really >> Yeah. And I think that each one will have its own emphasis. You know, Serno

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really emphasized the waterways as Jess was saying. Um, and Jamie brought up a good point too. It also points out where we might look at property acquisition for some of this and that's part of uh definitely what we're going to be looking at in Golden Gate. >> Any other comments, questions?

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Any public comments at all? My name is Ellen Hasselin and I sit on the NAC board in Fort Salerno. Um, I was appreciative of the fact that uh this was coming from growth management

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for each area. I didn't know where it was coming from. All of a sudden, we had a budget item of $400,000 that we were looking at. And and when we brought that up in our meeting, we kind of got it

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knocked down to only a h 100,000. we have unpaved roads that we're more concerned about than spending money on this other. And so that's my first bone of contention.

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the rest of it. Um, I think that you all know we we finally got to be able to enhance Monrovia Park and they were under

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neglect for years. And so then another big project is supposed to be the sewer project for Solerno New Monrovia. And you know, and we're looking at

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something else that when we have our next goal was unpaved roads. So that money doesn't look good to me. the um presentation was made and um

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I have to keep going back to the retrofit because I was on the committee with Elmmyroy when it was being built. Um we were there almost daily. I don't have the material on the whole

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thing anymore because that was passed off to somebody else. There is a very broad section in there that says this retrofit which you're calling Solerno Basin is

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never to become a park. Never. It was built to traverse areas of Solerno from here to there with the bridges and the walkways without using sidewalks and roads, which

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we didn't have very many sidewalks at all back then. And so this was an enhancement to be able to move from one area to the community to the other. And that's why there are

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bridges and paths and that sort of thing the um talking about putting in sidewalks and that sort of thing is not >> it's not what you want to do. >> Not at all. >> Um some of the areas that we have

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>> Thank you. Oh, okay. I'll have to come back. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes. Thank you, Gary. >> Give me one second, please. >> My name is Gary Erler. I'm a resident of

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Port Solerno. um 22page report. My first question is where's the money coming from just for the report alone? Was this part of that $43,000 that was that was spent? Um Soleno Basin is listed as a park or

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preserved uh plan trails on county owned property. Uh money for home money for home money for improvements. Uh, as Miss Ellen said, that shot down to 100,000. Um, my question is, is 4070 even been

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acquired by the county yet along with a piece of property in the back corner that's high and dry? Um, 21 acres owned by Casco Tools behind this property that the countyy's trying

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to acquire. uh 0.21 acres is now landlocked with two unimproved rideways. We all know that that can't happen. Um I believe he has other plans for the property that don't include the Solerno Park. Um there's a lot more work that

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needs to be done before we're even into the planning stage of this. As Miss Ellen says, number one on the agenda after the uh sewer project is on paved roads in Port Serno. We have many. And as far as a basin goes, there used to be

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two fountains. As far as I know, there's one. I don't even know if it works. That basin hasn't been cleaned up in 10 years. Um, plenty of exotics. A lot of work needs to be done with that before we go. And that's all county owned now.

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So, before we invest any of our own money into this, I think the county needs to step up and take care of some of their own property before they ask the residents of Solerno to chip in. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other comments at this time?

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Uh Jamie, this passed the NAC. Well, do you know the Was it a >> No, it was just brought up as a presentation just to discuss and then of course everybody interject. Um you know, of course everybody wants to see improvements, but there's priorities that you know the community has that

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they would like to see prior to this as you can tell. >> Okay. >> Of course. >> And then the maintenance. I mean, that's the big that's the biggest, you know, concern that I hear about. We currently aren't keeping up with what we currently have. So, >> does does all the money come from the

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same entity? Is it all is it all NAC money or is it is the roads and the sewer the county? >> So, I'll let Susan answer that. >> Okay. >> So, a few points I guess uh unpaved roads was brought up several times. That

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is a funded project. We are not not doing that. That is funded. And the first of I don't know if we'll do more than that after that. That will see. We'll have to see what those roads are. Some of them are private roads. Some of

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them are not. We're not able to do things. So, we'll have to see how that goes. We've all talked about that before. But that is a funded project. It should start construction next year. So, I just wanted to get let everybody know that the CRA is doing that. Um well that that's one

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but then we have to look and then we're looking into more of the >> program doing the roads. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. That that that's a project already in the CIP and being funded. >> Yes. One >> and moving along.

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>> Secondly, as far as um approval goes, it go went to the NAC as a presentation information only because it is in the comprehensive plan. This is not something that we vote on whether we're doing it or not. Comprehensive plan says we have to do it. So, we're doing it.

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You guys then today would adopt it into the plan. So, that's how that works. Um, and the funding I'm sorry, Chuck, how can I >> There's $4 million of of CRA funds going into the sewer.

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So, whenever that uh kicks off, that that's what will happen with the grant. >> Yeah. along with the money from the county and utilities. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Quick comment. >> This is a long-term analysis. This isn't

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like we're going to do this tomorrow, you know. This is like looking to the future. Yeah. I mean, it's not taking away from any other projects. This is like what can we do to improve the quality of our life in our communities? And open space has always improved the

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quality of life. comprehensive plan driven and it's something that will give us um sort of maybe a you know a view an overview of what we can look at. I mean it's always good to know what your assets and uh opportunities and challenges are when you're doing any

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project whether it's unpaved roads or anything else. Um this is excellent information to have. So >> and the community does use it. >> The community does like it. They just want to make sure you're doing it and prioritizing, you know, what the community >> baby steps.

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>> Yep. And then make taking in the changes and recommendations, which Jessica was very kind and listening to us, >> of course. And I would to build off of that timeline question. I mean, it's also an asset for, you know, if some of these things um you know, this is

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something that the the CRA and the county can use to go after funding potentially for certain projects. you know, the idea that it's been in an adopted document and that there's an illustration or some concepts that, you know, it supports a grant application to

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um to get other funding or if there's already um we spent the time to put in those unopened rideways because we know how important it is to to uh Port Solo. So, we wanted to make sure we never stepped on any of those with the idea for a trail or or a connection that

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needed to be made. So that was um you know and this helps to support that access to those open spaces that exist. >> And what would be the next step after this? >> So the next step after this is Jessica and Dana will move on to Golden Gate and

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we will utilize the this plan um for going after all the things that Jess just talked about uh and for looking for opportunities for the future. Any other questions, comments? >> So, this still keeps it open to where the community can interject,

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you know, making those because I mean, naturally, we don't own all of the land in one of the, you know, >> Yeah, there's a hand there's a handful that include private property. Um, and again, it has driven by the connection to the water uh for the you know, for most of those cases. And I mean it would

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become something that's a tool for the community to say to to work with. It's not that this is the beginning of a conversation, not the end of >> I think that's what we have to understand. >> And the Seno community has told us over and over again that they are looking for passive community amenities and that's

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what we're bringing them. So that's what this is all about. They don't want a lot of development. They we've heard this over and over. So I think this is a great start uh to go along that path. No pun intended. >> I also think that what you guys did with

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the the waterway and the uh placing these spaces along those water courses that you mentioned is really also a backbone of of Solerno and keeping the water going into the pocket clean. >> Clean >> and the way to do that is to not have

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development along those water courses and to make these public spaces. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, it's it's a in my opinion, it's a really big bonus for Solerno and and I'm looking forward to seeing all the other communities, as I said, and how it really works. So, if

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you need a motion, I'm ready. >> Uh, I would need a motion for adoption of the plan. >> I move we adopt the plan as presented. >> A second. And then I just want to say just as long as we're open to, you know, any changes

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that the community presents, that's I believe majority of them did want to see it. Um just making sure that the community is involved. >> All right. Then I have a motion and a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Any opposed? None opposed.

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>> Thank you. >> You're shocked. Thanks, Jess. Thanks, Dave. >> None opposed. Thank you. I was waiting for you to say. >> Next up is the CRA metrics project. >> Yes, we will. >> Oh, that would be so nice.

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>> Thank you. >> And just a point of order. I I I wasn't able to pull this up so I don't really like I didn't wasn't able to research it when I received the agenda. >> Oh, really? >> So, I apologize, but I will listen intently. Feel free to ask all the questions you

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want. >> So, uh the CRA has contracted business flare u for business flare, which is a 30-year economic development practice to advance the next phase of our performance tracking um and intelligence. So this this is why we

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have Kevin Crowder just for that reason. The last word intelligence >> that sentence makes sense. >> I think that made just wanted to make that clear. Um Kevin Crowder is the founder of business flare and he's going to discuss today uh the methodologies that he will use uh to deliver some

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measurable outcomes. So what we're looking for today is we're moving on in our CRA journey uh to start tracking our performance measures and actually measuring what we're doing and and that's helpful in so many ways. I mean it helps us to tell our story better. Um

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goes handinhand with all of our new communications. It'll help us sell future projects and programs and it helps with grant applications as well. So I'll turn it over to the expert. Do I need to do something here? >> I think you're on. >> I'm on. Okay, great. Uh, I was going to

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say good. It's usually morning when I'm in here. Um, good afternoon. Kevin Crowder. Um, Susan mentioned, Business Flare is is our our firm. We specialize in economic development. We specialize in redevelopment. Um, and data and analysis and insights is is one of the areas that that's probably one of our

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strongest. My background, I spent 15 years as economic development director in Miami Beach, and that's where we built a lot of the experience in economic intelligence for a lot of different audiences, which Susan just mentioned. It's it's audiences. It's it

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includes you and it includes the county commission as policy makers, it includes staff, it includes prospective businesses, your media efforts, the the media itself, just a lot of different ones. But we'll we want to get to a point that we can give you those storylines and the visualizations and the things that go along with making

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sure that that you're speaking what you're saying is relevant to the audience that you're speaking on. Um the other approach that we have when we do just data analysis overall and and this will depend on on some of the metrics we'll we'll look at more than others is

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is also remembering that that data is historical and it tells you how you got to the place that you currently are. It doesn't necessarily have to mean where you can go from there. And that's where the insights and and kind of tying the threads between the different types of data become comes in and developing

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those insights because then that will give you as as policy makers and staff the ability to adapt quicker to changing conditions that that are being monitored that maybe you can't control but are influencing what you're doing. And so when we look at how we do performance

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measurement in economic development, it's a little different than the way it's done in a lot of other public sector areas. If you're measuring say public works and streets, you measure the number of lane miles added, you can you have a rational nexus to the

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amount of additional traffic that you can carry. If you're measuring the amount of capacity you're adding to your sewer system, you know the number of additional flushes that the sewer system can maintain. If you're adding additional police or additional security

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cameras or things, you can you can still look to the impact that has in crime stats and things. Even though there's a wild card in there, which is the criminal themselves, which which isn't just always going to going to go along with it, but when you're dealing with economic development,

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there's a lot of wild cards. So, we look at performance metrics, which are did we do what we said we were going to do? Did we do what the plan said needed to be done? And we did we do it along the timeline and along the budget and all of those measures that say that we did what we're supposed to

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do. We said we were going to visit 100 businesses this year. We visited 100 businesses this year. Then you have your outcomes, the things you want to have happen. Your CRA number one is is did we get the tiff growth that that we've been targeting? and you have a lot of

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different outcomes that that you may identify through this process. But then you have the things that you need to monitor which are going to have as big or probably more of an impact on your outcomes than you as a CRA and your your direct performance measures can have. Things like materials costs, things like

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labor costs, things like interest rates, things like fuel costs. All of these things come into to what ultimately happens with your tiff. And so part of part of call it the art of this is then tying those threads together so you know

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how to adapt and react to one the changes in one of those items outside of your control in a way that still can get you towards towards the outcome that that you want. So the way I the way I can maybe describe this that that I learned a long time ago is you know in

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cities we would we would listen to our community and and there were certain retailers that they always wanted or restaurants and at one point it was always we called it the flavor of the month and at one point everybody wanted a cheesecake factory and then at one point everybody wanted a Trader Joe's and and you had these Starbucks and

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but but I learned very early on from from some really good mentors that cities counties too CRAAS You don't get to pick your retail. Retail picks its cities and retail picks CRAAS. And if you're not being picked for what you want, then you need to understand why. And that's what we come in and measure.

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And then out of those things that we find on why you're not being picked, then it's a matter of figuring out, okay, out of those things, what do you as a city or a CRA actually have the ability to influence and control and and improve to the better and improve your

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chances of attracting that that target that you have. And that way you can you can deploy your resources efficiently or you can decide you know what we're never going to attract a Nean Marcus. So let's pivot to something else that we can no matter how much the community may want

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the Nean Marcus. And so that's those are kind of the three things that come together as we build this and then build the tools for Susan and Jordan and and the team to be able to monitor this and and track these things uh over time. This will include the other thing that

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we do in our approach. We have it's called enhanced economic intelligence. It's sort of a visibility audit where we're looking at those things that that aren't just we'll look at your economic drivers and we use real estate databases to track what's happening in commercial and in residential and in industrial

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hospitality uh real estate and and market. We use location analytics and and looking at foot traffic to track customers in downtowns and in destinations where you're you're having for retail and restaurants. We use that also to track and and see the employment

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and workforce trends in there. We use a company called Litecast which also gives us occupational and workforce data that becomes important. And then we use it's called EZRI uh psychoraphics, demographics, spending spending trends. We pull all of that in, but then we also

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look at things that are what can we track that are related to just community identity, how people think and feel about each of your your individual areas that we'll be we'll be looking at in the six CRAAS, the drivers, identifying within each one, what can we monitor

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when we when we identify things that might be strategic threats to redevelopment or economic growth or quality of life, are there things that we can build in to to monitor and track there? Uh that's that may be some of those that are more outside of your control, but things you want to watch.

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Um are there things related to certain opportunities that you have? And then we'll identify some signals to monitor. And you know, a lot of times when you do these exercises, you just say we want to track the vacancy of our retail and we want to track this and that. But there may be some really important signals

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that you want to monitor. If you're in a community that has high employment concentration in a few firms, you don't want to just be watching what those firms do locally. you want to be watching their parent company SEC filings that have to do with layoffs and employment and different there's other things that that may seem a little um

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not as obvious that can that that can give you some some good strategic insights. We'll we'll know how much of that exists in each CRA here as we get as we get into it. Um, we look at some things that tell us how are you positioned for next economy,

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generational talent and things as as you know time goes on, making sure that you're able to continue to succeed. Um, and even certain friction points that are that can be in the way of the efficient redevelopment in in accordance with your plan, especially the private

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side investment that you're that you're trying to attract. Um, we just and and then we'll again, as I mentioned, we'll wrap that up into dashboard and and monitoring pro products that that staff can use and then push those out in the right way to

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whatever audience it's meant for. And I'm happy to answer any questions. >> Thank you. Any questions at all? >> Yes, sir. Go ahead. So, um, is I'm I'm assuming there are differences between small towns and large cities in the way you do your analysis and obviously we're

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pretty small communities that we're talking about. That was one thing and the other thing was you mentioned wild cards and I guess your goal is to try and limit those wild cards or at least identify them and project them to say,

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well, this could be or it couldn't be, >> right? the the goal is really to expose and and and bring visibility to those wild cards. It's they're it's not really limit them because just the nature of them being wild cards, they're going to be out of your control to limit, but but

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to understand where they fit into the influence of what you're trying to do and make sure that they're all they're all visible. There are a lot of differences between the small cities and the big cities um and bigger communities and a lot of that has to do with the quality of data. So, one of the things that we do is we've built a we built

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some AI agents that go externally and create what we call a visibility audit just to see how a community looks from the outside. And so, what it does and and and it goes through a bunch of different categories and you'll see and it's designed to be in the way that somebody who's doing a search about you

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is looking at your community. One thing that we've discovered is that searches for communities now, searches for anything are not happening the way that that I grew up doing it inside a city doing economic development, which was looking at Google and search engine optimization and what we're doing with

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the website. You know, 70% of the searches now are happening on chat GPT and on Tik Tok. They're not happening on Google. So, if you're you know, when you're when you're optimizing for search engines, you're not optimizing for how people are looking at you now. And so and and we find when we do these

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visibility audits that and we find mistakes. We find the wrong city manager listed. We find the wrong mayor listed. But what we're seeing is we're seeing how the external customer what they're coming across even in that first that first look when they're even trying to decide where they're going to

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go and consider something. >> So visibility actually being seeing what something looks like. >> Visibility in in when someone's doing say their the very first level of due diligence on you. I've heard about Port Salon. I want to understand more about it because it sounds like a place I want

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to go. What are they seeing when they when they do that and they're sitting up at 2 am to to to to make a decision on on whether to move? And I I say 2 a.m. because if you know Funky Buddha Brewery in Oakland Park, that happened because of a YouTube video that Casey, the owner

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of Funky Buddha, saw of a CRA board meeting in Oakland Park watching it at 2 a.m. And that's what got them to the CRA was that YouTube video and seeing it there. And so, but a lot of that can happen and they move on to the next city depending on what they see. So, we want to understand what they can see and then

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again figure out what can we do about that. Um, now it becomes much more much more proactive than just trying to change a few things on a website. >> Um, but and and with the small towns, it's just there's not as much for people

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to find. There's not as much that stays as current as it does in a big town. You know, if you're looking for for real estate information, you want to understand the real estate project happening and you go to the real deal. Well, if you look up Miami or you look for up Fort Lauderdale, you're going to get up to date everything in the last

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week. If you look up Treasure Coast, you're going to see a little bit of a lag and and you may still have projects pop up that may not be moving forward anymore. And so, it's just it's it's really just understanding that perspective so that we can adapt to that. Any

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other questions? Jamie, >> so when you're analyzing, you're trying to decide whether like for instance a business would be would be good in a certain location. >> That's not part of what we'll be looking at.

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>> That's what So you're you're looking at the tools to utilize to figure out. Okay, got it. And I and again, I apologize. I didn't get to research beforehand. No. >> Okay. So, you're just looking at the tools that you're going to utilize, >> right? We're just looking at all of the

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data tools and what does the data say and and where are the pieces that you can use that data to your advantage in in implementing your plans. >> Thank you. And you will all have the opportunity to question Kevin again because we will be bringing him back for

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more torturous meetings. Not to worry, >> please. >> Well, there you go. >> Any other questions right now? >> One more. Uh I think I read in there that you also analyze how we're doing compared with what we had planned on doing. Is that correct?

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>> That's correct. And and one of and one of the pieces in there is to understand again what especially number one look at at just the the implementation side and and what what what measures could improve on that piece, but to also

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understand the actual influence of those external factors on what you did because that will help guide how you evaluate those external factors going forward. Um and and just in your your planning on

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how you deploy your resources. >> Anyone else? All good. Cool. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Moving on to the CRA social media uh overview. We're going to bring forward another special guest star.

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Elise Rafa with the CRA is going to talk to you about that. >> Just Okay, I'll just do it like that. Okay. Good afternoon. Elise Rafa, community development coordinator. So today I'm going to be talking about the exciting new Facebook page we have. So

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in the last few weeks, am I not talking into this? Okay. Um in the last few weeks, administration approved that we could have our own social media account. So with that, we're going to have some goals and metrics for the next year. So here are our goals. We want to increase

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public awareness of the CRA and its role in Martin County. We want to improve transparency and visibility of our projects and investments. And we want to strengthen community engagement and participation opportunities.

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So, how are we going to do that? So, our metric is in the next year to get 1,000 followers. So far, I think we're at 60. >> Yay. >> We only started like last week with zero. uh the strategies included in that. We'll be doing like CRA 101 posts

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just explaining, you know, to anyone that comes to our page, what is a CRA? Um how is it fund projects XYZ? It has a a fun feature on Facebook where you can pin posts at the very top. So, anyone new that comes, they can scroll through

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that gallery and get like a whole crash course on what it is we do and hopefully like and follow. to keep along. Um we are going to introduce each of the districts as you remember last year because you were all minus Chuck in the videos of uh your

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CRAAS. So we'll have each of the program managers do short form videos along with hopefully you all as projects and behind the scenes and and things like that. And then the uh Florida Redevelopment Association is such a great resource for all the CRAAS in the state of Florida.

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So when it's applicable to share some of the developments and best practices that they're posting, we want to cross share that. Um improving transparency and visibility of our projects and investments. So the

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goal here is to publish at least twice a week. Uh we want to introduce again staff, our boards, uh different departments that we work with with our projects, behind the scenes of the things that we're doing. Um Janna with the investment program of course with

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the private properties and businesses that um commercial businesses not homes. I want to put that on the record. Uh the before and afters of those with MCTV to get out and do more of those um before and after videos. And then just across

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the board talking about all the CRAAS all the time. And then lastly strengthen community engagement and participation opportunities. Uh the metric there is to promote 100% of our CRA board meetings like today, our NAC meetings and then

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any um outreach opportunities that come along um which could be you know the surveys uh workshops that we do for different projects and then like we've been doing with our community pulse we want to do kind of a wrap up on Facebook

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after each NAC meeting like hey in case you missed it you know this is what went on and I I'm excited cuz it's like a new platform that is going to reach more of our residents that maybe aren't on our mailing list or going to our website regularly. And then this was like a

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funny little thing. I don't know if the sound is going to work, but we'll see. >> I follow the squad on Facebook. >> I follow the squad on Facebook. So, so for anyone watching, listening, our page is facebook.commartinountc.

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and please follow along. And that's it. >> Go tell all your friends and families. >> That's it. >> Very good. Thank you. Anybody have any questions? >> No, I think it's great. >> Yeah, looks really cool. >> Thank you. >> I look forward to the Rio NAC wrap-ups. Those are going to be fun.

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>> Thank you. >> Okay, moving on to capital projects review. >> So, I guess now I have to do some work. That was a great meeting for me. Time to talk. So, actually before I say anything more, I am going to bring up one more special

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guest. That's Joy Puerto. She's going to tell us a little bit about the Golden Gate landscape vision plan. >> Good afternoon again. Joy Puera, uh, program manager.

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I'm going to discuss the landscape vision plan update. I brought this to you probably several months ago, um, just to give you an idea, just to remind you. I don't know. >> The PowerPoint is at the bottom. >> You can just scroll through, can't you? >> I'd rather do the PowerPoint. Oh,

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>> so again, um the landscape vision plan. This is a pilot project. We will be doing a landscape vision plan for all the other CRAAS and Golden Gate was picked first. Um, this is covering the Dixie Highway area between Indian and Jefferson and the side streets of

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Bonita, Clayton, Delmare, and then also uh Birch Avenue, unimproved rightaway. It's going to be a pocket park between um Clayton and Delmare. So, this is just a a recap. Um, it's

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like this is one of the first medians that they're showing that the consultant performed that has the crosswalk mid block. But I wanted to bring a few things to your attention. Um the reason why we were doing this, they did a an assessment of all the medians out there and the irrigation lines were exposed.

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Um they found the mulch was too thick in the area. Uh numerous shrub species appeared um just not to be the right type of vegetation out there. And the crepe myrtles, they lose their trees in the fall and they don't regrow back until the spring. The leaves, I'm sorry.

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Um so they're bareer half the year. So the consultant provided this conceptual design. Uh the location is the median along Dixie Highway where a crosswalk is midblock. And the consultant has proposed uh native palm species to maintain a roadway visibility. Um near

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the crosswalk the ground uh cover shown in yellow uh is less or equal to 12 in in height. The light green vegetation is a pollinating plant which will be less or equal to 18 in in height. And the green area or grasses that need need to be

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maintained at a height of less than 30 in. This is all needed out there just for pedestrian safety. We've got five midblock crossings out there. In the past, we've had some issues with visibility. So, this consultant came up with a plan that would solve all these issues.

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The next median is a typical median along Dixie Highway that has the crosswalk towards one of the side streets. Again, it has the same features that I discussed um with uh the ground cover and yellow uh being

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less than the 12 in height. Uh light green also being less than or equal to 18 in with the pollinating plant. And then the green area are the grasses that will be maintained at a height of 30 in. the side streets on Bonita uh Clayton

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and Delmare. Um here it doesn't show it. It just shows kind of like the existing median or not median the uh the side swale areas that will have um some plantings put in. But we also did a field check with field ops and they observed a lot of um of the oak trees.

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Some will need to be removed and replaced. Some will need to be pruned back um to make them more, you know, uh sound out there and some of them will be removed because they were put in such a small planter area. They're just not going to be

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surviving. They're structurally unsound. Um and some of the trees I guess didn't follow the Florida Power Light right tree right place standards. So, we're looking at that as well. The next thing is the pocket park Birch

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Avenue between Clayton and Delmare. Um, after public input from the neighborhood advisory committee, they wanted the pocket park to be designed for children's activities, they thought that the existing El Camino that is under construction uh right now is is

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really going to be catered to adults um with the exercise equipment, but there is a soccer field that would be used for kids. But they really wanted this devoted to kid activities. So therefore, the pocket park will be including some uh tree stumps as a play feature, a

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colored concrete paths for maybe chalk activities, open lawn for play, uh boulder seating, and an interactive community mural is going to be designed for children. Again, these are conceptual plans. Um the next steps is we're going to have a community open

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house uh on May 27th at the community center in Golden Gate. And from there once we get feedback from the community they'll finalize the conceptual plans and then it will be turned over uh to Coulter and hearing uh to actually do the design plans for the landscape and

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irrigation. So that's the latest on this project. If you have any questions I can answer them. you know, Indian Street where we had, you know, the sign and stuff. It doesn't seem like it's been taken care of, especially with those

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>> Oh, good. >> brushes and I don't even know if light come on in the evening. I can check into that. I I just know that the landscaping has been maintained to keep it at a low height so the sign could be visible. Now, I know with the

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freeze that we had, a lot of the shrubs did die, um I don't know if they're going to come back or not, but I will I will check into that. Most likely some of the shrubs will come back, but if they're not, I'm sure that the field ops group um will be replacing them, but I

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will check into that and get back with you. >> Yeah, I'm not really fun of that kind of grass, the tall one, you know, the the kind of the grass by it tall. It just doesn't doesn't really make something nicer what

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we want because we had it on the sides where the retro is and it was bringing snakes and rats and all kind of stuff. It's just not really good ideal to have it around. >> Well, interesting you do say that because a lot of the comments were put

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into this design. Indian Street is not included in this. I know, >> but there are some shrubs that were taken into consideration to not have because of that because they had snakes in them. So, field ops was uh very helpful on getting the right um

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vegetation. Now, it's not pinpoint in these plans because they will be shown at the open house. For each of those areas that I showed you, like the yellow, the green, there'll be like a a a selection of maybe three types that the community can pick. But again, we

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took um a lot of consideration into not having I think it was I can't remember the the plant the molly berry or something the very high pink. It's beautiful looking but it does um have >> this one is like a Brussels. I mean it's

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just >> we had to get rid of it down our area. My husband of course just tell him what to do and he goes for it. So I mean you know >> who maintains this uh landscape. >> It would be uh field ops public works.

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Uh it's a division of public works because it's in the road right away. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Question about the crosswalks you had. Can you go back to that drawing? They kind of had a staggered to them. Was there a reason for that? um that was

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designed that way originally and the reason for that um I don't know how to get back to the old slide. Let's see. >> There you go. >> Yeah. The reason why it's designed like that is so you don't cross it in one segment. They want to make sure that the

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pedestrians cross and stand in the median because we do have flasher lights out there that they're supposed to push so that the cars will stop. But this is it's it's a design feature um that's in like the Florida green book standards in

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Florida that it prevents >> over bikes so they can't just drive. Yeah. Zoom across the street. >> Yeah. Dixie >> highway. It makes them slow down if not stop. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So that's existing. So we're not touching the the crosswalks out there. We're just trying to make everything

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around it safer. >> Gotcha. Who was in charge of choosing the plants that went in originally? >> The snake plants and the trees that are in plants that are >> That was before my time. I'm really not too sure. >> Was it before your time? >> So I wish.

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>> Yeah. Um >> it's before that time. just >> uh field ops and the CRA both worked on the where the sign is on Indian Street. >> And uh the medians in on Dixie Highway

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was mostly probably public works cuz it was really more their project than it was a CRA project. So they had the discretion on that one. >> And who's going to be in charge of picking plants this time? >> That would be you, Michael. >> I'm all for it. I hate snakes. So, we won't have any stake plans.

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>> It'll be all concrete, green, green concrete. >> Some of it will be the community like Joy said that uh when we have that open house, they will look at um which ones they prefer. Uh but most of the time we do leave that last sort of approval up

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to field operations because they're the ones that a are going to be maintaining it and know more about plants than Joy or I do. Well, if we change the plants every two years, maybe they don't know more about plants. >> It's going to be a certain selection of

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plants that have already been determined from the consultant and field office. >> Didn't you say Cotler and Herring was going to do the final design? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, their landscape architect, >> they'll have something to say about it. Yeah. As well. >> That would be good. Okay. You don't need an approval or anything. So, Mike, just

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to piggy back off of you, I got to give you your props, Joy, that you're getting the analysis done first to figure out which >> would be appropriate to go in there so we're not going back in there and ripping out what should not be there. That is correct. >> Got to give you your props on that.

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>> I think every project should run that way. >> Thank you. >> How are we doing on the grant? I'm curious. >> Which grant for the pilot? >> For the what? for the what? >> It's a waiting game. We're waiting on them to tell us yes or no.

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>> Are you talking about the improvements in the overall Golden Gate? Yeah, we submitted it in February and we will not hear anything until after July 1st. >> We in the cone of silence. >> Not us, but

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we might as well be, right? We have no no information. >> Cool. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Joy. >> You're welcome. So, the only other project that I'm going to talk about as far as capital projects goes,

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and I'm sorry I'm sorry that Cindy isn't here because I'm going to talk about Jensen Beach. So, Jensen Beach, uh, Church Street, we have contracted with Bowman or in the process of contracting with Bowman to do the design. And Bowman

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really was a great choice. And I'll give Janna some kudos for that. She researched a few of them and uh did go back to Bowman who did the original 2021 design. I don't know if you all remember that project then. It was a yield street

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because we only had 40 ft 40 ft 40 ft of rightway. So we were trying to improve the street and get a little parking uh with a very small you know 40 ft isn't much uh and that was a design that

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Bowman had done then. So, with the advent of a new property owner to the north who was uh generous enough to donate 30 more feet, we now have 70 ft of rideway. And we're going to be doing uh two lanes. So, it'll be a complete

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street. It will have two lanes. It will have increased parking, wider sidewalks. We're undergrounding the utilities. Um we're going to receive two concept plans. So you will see those when they come through uh at opinion of cost of

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course we'll get that from them and we're looking probably in the next 6 to 8 months uh to see some design on that. So we'll be excited to bring that to you. Uh Jensen's been waiting for that project for years. So that was great news. I don't have any updates on any of

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the other capital projects. Everything is pretty status quo from last month. But I'm always happy to answer any questions should you have any. Any questions? >> I know it's not a CRA project, but it is in a CRA. Uh, any update at all on the

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Ryal Marine Village? >> Any any update? >> Started construction. >> They have started construction. >> They built a big pile of rocks. >> They They did start on the marina on the south. >> And what else have they begun? Do you

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know? >> Yeah. talking with the county engineer about a week ago, he said that he uh talked about that with them and they've started on the southeast portion. That's their that's where they want to start as well as the road. So there the the

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public works department is going to have them working on the road as well as that southeast portion of the property down by the marina. >> Cool. Thank you. >> That's good news. It is if you live in Riot, I guess.

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>> Uh, any other questions at all? Anything? >> Just another couple of things from me. Um, annual reports we will have next month. So, I'll be passing those out. And I just wanted to point out in case anybody noticed that we have a familiar

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>> new yet familiar face. Uh, Sebastian Paproski is back with us as our legal counsel. Frank is off to new adventures. So, welcome back, Sebastian. >> Always good to be here. >> So, you'll be seeing him at NAC meetings

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as well. And that is all I have for today. Cool. Then we will move back to the comment section. Any public comments? None. One. >> More clarification. Comment.

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Thank you, sir. >> Gary Erler, Port Serno. Again, I guess um getting more, like I said, more clarification than questions or comments. Um the green space kicked off on February

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6th. It went to the NAC on April 9th and and we're here today, April 27th. There was no vote for the green space plan at the NAC and and now it is added as I take it to the CRA plan. Is that true?

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What actually transpired? >> It is going to be part of our what we what we do moving forward. >> So it is so it is added without without community input. Um uh 4070. I just want to reiterate the

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property that they're calling uh Solerno Park. Um just for the record, uh September with contract was issued on that property, 90 days to close, put it at the end of December. This is now 128

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120 days later. Still no update on that project. We're talking 7 months, people. Um, and not only that, they've also allocated $100,000 in the budget of our NAC for that property. We We have You

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could pave Lincoln and Flounder that needs pavement more than anything uh for $100,000 and that's where I feel our money needs to go. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other public comment or clarification?

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members. >> I do. >> Jamie um coming up. >> Oh, never mind. >> Pause. Ellen Ashlin again with the uh after the meeting there was quite a bit of concern from

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the residents about what is going to be cleaning the water from the retrofit to the manatee pocket. A lot of that has been destroyed from the original.

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They were allowed to mow at the top of the near the spillway which is behind the old school. All of that area was planted purposely with reads so when that water came over

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it would be cleaned with the reads. Plus small animals and birds nested there the whole bit. that has all been taken away. It's grass and they're mowing it on the side.

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And like Gary pointed out, it's probably two, three more years since those pumps have been running that airate the water. Another feature that's supposed to clean the water before it goes to the manatee pocket. And those

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things are not being done. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Jane. >> So, I know it was presented at the Serno NAC meeting. There were a lot of people really excited about it, but there's also the concerns as you can see. Um, so

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my question, Sebastian, now that you're back, um, because this seems to be an ongoing problem with maintenance. Um, there is on page 26 of our portso vision plan, there is something in there pertaining

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to maintenance and I was wondering if at the next NAC meeting if we could address it and clarify whether or not we can put some type of stipulation or whatever into ongoing maintenance for any projects that we we implement. Um,

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meaning that they would be, as I understand it, any project that we have, it would be county county responsibility to maintain as they are. Basically, what you're saying is they're not being maintained now and to ensure going forward that it

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>> because that's where the hesitation is in the community. majority of it >> as it would be a county-owned asset. I don't legally I can't put any additional language in there that would strongarm the county even more to do, you know, to

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to to do more maintenance than it already has duty to do. Um because there's now no such document in existence. They just build it and then they maintain it. There's no agreement, I guess, to say with with the NAC or

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with the, you know, county with itself to do it. It's just the department that's that's responsible for uh the maintenance. what we can do um is is reach out to them and maybe get a better understanding or idea

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what the schedule is and why isn't it being as you say you know it's being put off or or not come around to enough times >> right >> um that's something I I'll talk to Susan about that about how we can get with our

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our staff to figure out even if they may have to come to to a meeting or something like that >> cuz I think that would solve some of our, you know, problems as far as as far as the community concerns. >> I understand. I'll I'll look into it. Okay. >> I'll get back with you out there.

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>> I appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> I have a question about the maintenance. I noticed on M map road they have a subcontractor out there. The the county doesn't take care of it. What's the difference between some of them they sub out and some of them they do in house?

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>> Do you have an answer for that? Well, I mean, the county contracts with other companies to do maintenance. So, depending on whether that's emptying trash or cutting bushes or trimming trees or raking up, you know, the county

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staff doesn't do all of it. >> Well, the reason I was bringing it up is because on Map Road, they fired the the last company because they didn't do a good job, >> right? >> These guys are definitely doing a better job. So, I don't know if that's an option for you guys moving forward. We had recommended it. Yes. Okay.

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>> It's it's a again it's it's the county public works department or parks or whoever is managing those contracts or getting those contracts. Again, the CRA doesn't do that. So, we can give input, we can ask, we can uh bring forward

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schedules, we can do all of those things. Uh and then at the end of the day, um that's what we can do. >> But I feel like we need to have a solution. I've got a thought. I don't know if it's feasible or not, but you know, we in in Hopetown, we have the

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murals and we pay as a uh NAC to do some maintenance on those. Um could a budget item be established for maintaining certain places in different NACS? >> I don't know that honestly I don't know.

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I mean, it's a different story because there are things that the CRA cannot do. One of the things is that it cannot do things that are county uh what's the wording that it it actually says it in the statute. Um we can't take over

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government operations. In other words, we're not supposed to be funding >> government operations as such. So, in other words, we're not going to be uh redeveloping a county building or, you know, that kind

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of thing. I'm trying to think of other examples. Um, and that's what it says in the statutes. We'd certainly look at it to see if there's some way that Port Solerno can do that. I don't know if that's going to be the case or not. Um, that's kind of a different

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thing. Murals are sort of different than mowing grass or trimming trees. >> Um, >> I'm trying to think of another. So, for example, we just had a bad freeze. >> Can the CRA come in and plant new plants? Yes,

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we can enhance that. We're not going to then trim those plants and mow. But can we come in and fix that? Yes, we can. But I know that's not going to answer your concern. And I don't know how else to explain it. >> I just feel like we need to come up with

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a solution. >> Oh, that's >> What about a specification sheet that you guys pay a professional to do to give to those guys to tell them how to how to maintain it? That'll be fun. >> Or include that in the project. >> This is pretty tough. I mean, it sounds like it's an easy thing, but if you

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don't know your plants and how to trim them and when to trim them, >> you know, you fix and part of it, you know, is fiscal. I mean, part of it budget. They're not going to come every four weeks, even though that would be great. That's just not what

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>> we have them coming even every year. >> One time one time a year. >> That's true. That's like, well, that might >> I don't know how long the fountains have been out. >> Well, and that's one of the reasons why we were bringing forth a project that might help that because we can go in and

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fix that, but the community wants that, but they don't want that. So, it's a little >> They do want it. They just want to make sure it's done properly and maintained. >> It's a great question. I mean, it really is a great concern. >> I mean, it's happening everywhere. So, >> it's not just Port Salerno. We don't

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want the junk that comes with it have to pay for it. >> Welcome to my board. >> Any other members? I'm trying to ruffle feathers. I just think it's a solution that we need to figure out. >> Yes. >> If you're putting all this money into projects, we need to know how to maintain it. >> So, do you

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>> I have a complaint. I think >> yay. Waste management. got to get with it because I realize a lot of people were moved and a lot of landlords they just

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threw their furniture all over the place. It seems like we went back to a grand zero when I started advocating for Golden G. It is just a mess. Can you imagine on Easter you see everything all over the place? Uh when it got cold

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and windy, guess who get the end of it? Poor Chris. We got to, you know, really waste management got to do their job. Don't feel like they're really picking up like they're supposed to. Now they

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even start throwing a garbage in your yard like just empty it and throw it over there. that were were begin for me at the beginning to start pushing for Golden Gate. I mean, you get paid, so do

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your work. I mean, do your job and do it properly. Now, if that's the problem with the landlord, let's get with him. I know the sentence is not there. Used to really pick on him. Seriously, uh I feel bad that people who

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used to live in this dwellings, you know, they're not there anymore, but their stuff is all over the place and here is a holiday and people walking, you know, it's just not right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you,

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>> Rex. >> Yes. A couple of things. Well, I came in about 30 minutes early to try to make up some time of when I wasn't here before. Just so you know. >> I didn't know that, but thank you, R. Noted. Duly noted. >> You're looking for some credit.

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>> That is the law. >> The other comment is >> the CRA's long-term thing is to plan long term. >> We had to share to find out what the community wanted. And then within that long term, we have shorter term, but

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still longer term. Anytime you deal with a county, it takes a while to get things done, right? >> We found that out in Palm City with map road and our parks and stuff. But that's just the way it is. But if you don't plan these things

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year, two years, 3 years, four years in advance, it becomes helter skelter, >> then we don't have a nice community. >> Yeah. And the whole reason is to make these areas of the CRA better.

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So this planning for parks and things like that, that doesn't mean that's going to be the final >> exact thing, but if you don't start planning way in advance, it will never get done and then it's just a mess. >> So that's my comment. >> Good point. >> Thank you.

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>> I completely agree. >> Yep. >> With it maintained. Do >> you have any comments? You want to say maintained like four times? >> I'm good. >> I'm good. >> Add to it. >> Yeah, I'm good.

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>> Any staff comments? >> No. >> No. Then we are a churned.