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you're on okay we are returning to contemplation of the transportation element proceed please we contemplation Transportation yeah okay okay um went
back and looked up the um traffic currency exception areas yeah um are all the cras and they were adopted in 2021 okay and there is no map we never had a map it was just apparently people would just show the uh the CRA map and
and how do we designate T Transportation concurrency exception areas are there volumes or we just say okay we're going to make these failed roads or how how is that accomplished I think you do you know
that hi I'm I'm Lisa wixer I'm the chief project engineer for public works department yes you are and um I did most of the the modifications of this chapter were done by me so um I offered to come and answer some of your questions so tcas were established um
back in 2021 as Michael said basically to address what Don mentioned earlier we recognized that we had some roads that had the potential to fail the level of service within the C that we just had invested a lot of money Dixie Highway in Port CA was one we also looked at the
potential for Dixie Highway if and when in Jensen Beach um and Rio um you know the and map road those were all done intentionally Bridge Road was another one so we established the tcas and used the CRA boundary because it made logical
sense to have the CRA boundary be the boundary of the transportation concurrency exception area the board had to agree to that which they did in 2021 and there were two amendments made to the comp plan one in the in the transportation element and then one in chapter 18 which is the community
redevelopment a area element okay thanks you're welcome and then back on the level of service the level of service was actually in two separate two areas in
there so it's actually in 5.2 um three it was where it was the qualifying things and now it was they it was added um up in that area so I mean it wasn't add
it it it was changed when it was changed from the um well level service to the qualitative level of service that that piece down there was a duplicate so it got taken out as
it's cuz it actually is up in 5.2 where's 5.2 I see 5.3 I see it's in the roadway portion for existing roadway the existing and in the existing roadway it describes the
existing level of service that's been adopted as level of service D for the most part and and then I found it was also in the future description of the future network which was redundant so I removed the redundancy from the future
and left it in existing because it is an existing adopted level of service and it was then updated to correspond to the new context classification I'm I'm still not seeing it I'm I'm looking at the uh language that's some
of it's old some of it's new on page 455 which starts out at the most current qualitative level of service on all major roadways is that it that's replacing so 4.23 um which is up on the screen this qualitative Lal service targets and the
table that you were referencing earlier yeah that's the new section that was moved from 5 four four four B it's on page five 454 so now it's all in one spot as
opposed to being in two separate spots all right let me flip around in my paper copy here to see if I so it would be on page five um page four of 34 of the the chapter 5
it's not corresponding with mine it's the table that you asked why the descriptions were abbreviated so all of this the things that were under 5.4 B which is analysis and lo standards
you believe are now fully duplicated in 5 three in two paragraphs at the top of page 454 [Applause] yes um and and in what was in
5.4 or 5.5a previously I'm sorry 5.4 B analysis and level of service standards is now traffic forecasting and Analysis because it it talks about how we predict what our needs are going to
be in the future and the existing 5.2 talks about the roadway capacity and the adopted level of service standards so what was under 5.4 B the roadway capacity and adopted level of service standards those two were moved
to 5.2 and the traffic analysis techniques was left in 5.5a so just separating what's existing from what's future was the is the intent except that 5.2
largely is unaffected and yet you say that 5.4 has been Incorporated so it was in my opinion it was redundant before so I removed the redundancy from the two
sections all right I'm going to have to read this more thoroughly uh and also on page what's the last uh policy in the chapter which is policy
5.12 A3 maintain the channel in manate Pocket the county shall maintain the channel in the manate pocket to enable deeper draft vessels to access local marinas and service facilities I don't I don't think it's necessary to to include to enable deeper draft vessels to access
local marinas and service facilities I think it's say absolutely the county shall maintain the channel in the manate pocket I think that that's specific enough stop that's the will of the board I'm sure I agree not a problem that you three for
three any further questions or comments you want to pass the caval to make a motion no I don't think I need to do I so we want to well we need we need public comment is there any public comment on the transportation
element wise move we need to continue I will move that we continue the item to the March 25th uh board meeting and and include the changes that were suggested for the M pocket and include the changes that we have
discussed is there a second yes there's a Motion in a second all those in favor I I'm opposed that motion passes unanimously on to the next item which is public hearing
number four which is a legislative public hearing to consider uh amending the uh complant Amendment 24-3 intergovernmental coordination elements good afternoon good
afternoon I have them in here again for the record my name is Clyde duelan The comprehensive planning administrator with me is Stephanie height from the Treasure Coast Regional planning Council and this is chapter three intergovernmental coordination
uh there are not a lot of changes going on here again we're recognizing things like the village of Indian town and making some minor changes and uh so I will turn it over to Stephanie if you wish to if there's anything you wish to
to cover on the highlights sure for the record Stephanie height Deputy executive director of the Treasure Coast Regional planning Council um as Clyde said there's very few changes in this room we just names of some agencies have changed referencing the village of Indiantown um
just making some of the language consistent with current legislation and then um language to coordinate School site planning with the Martin County School District um there was one policy where we had noted that there was an interlocal
agreement between the county and the town of Jupiter Island I believe um chair herd had bought that up last time that that that was um something to get on again I do believe that you're in the process of updating that interlocal agreement so I think when it comes back
in the March 25th by that time we'll know whether or not to keep that language in or remove that language will we I know that we have a an agreement that's being negotiated is this we have it scheduled for the March 11 yeah BCC meeting so if
the board adopts that interlocal agreement at that point then on March 25 we'll be able to bring you revised language here uh at this instead of this sentence shown okay Jupiter Island's already approved it that's what I thought I thought it was imminent yeah
good good that will be good to get in the comp plan um also on March 11 we'll be presenting to you chapter 11 of the comprehensive plan and it has a couple of figures in it that reflect that old interlocal agreement so we'll probably be discussing with you changes to those
figures as well okay good uh unless there's you have anything else I think that concludes staff presentation I have a question it's on page 620 um conservation element uh the land acquisition selection committee is
responsible for evaluating and prioritizing Parcels identified for acquisition by the county and will be used as needed the committee is composed of Representatives of business and environmental organizations and the BCC I don't think it's composed of the BCC I don't think so either so revised
language was it land conservation conservation element the land selection committee land acquisition selection committee it also has agricultural soaks in it okay yeah it
does that so just make it be reflective of the the current one as opposed to the prior yes yeah I can work with you Clyde to we'll update it for the clarent environmental land committee I don't
think that committee exists anymore I have it on this beautiful system have it on water you read the underlined stuff didn't you I read it when I'm sleeping I listen to is there any public comments thank you any commissioner
comments I agree with you there a motion motion to continue to March 25 there's a motion is there a second second and with the amendment to the language yes second there's a motion and
a second all those in favor I I opposed that motion passes unanimously on to public hearing number five which is a legislative public hearing to consider adoption of an ear Amendment um to
on Amendment 24-6 housing element thank you members of the board uh Stephanie ALS height also worked on this one uh and assisted staff with a lot of uh data analysis Mining and uh
we're very appreciative of all the work that the uh tcpc did in coming up with all this data and research um this is not changed from what was presented on October 22 uh 2024 um most of the changes here are
really pretty much data analysis that's had to be replaced and updated uh there are no real no policy changes of sort oh I'm sorry you know what P you want to reference that I don't know what page it
is in the agenda item policy 63 C okay I'll go to 63c oh no I want to get to the um 63c is uh 793 if you can do Pages
thank you commissioner is this what your yeah I think we had originally said that we were going to change this to the 23 years and then add a policy to reference pack to to chapter 4 but then um after discussion we just just just
made it consistent we didn't change the whole policy we just changed the um year planning period yes so I think that goes back to the discussion earlier today thank about that that we need to uh make all that consistent so I think when you come back to discuss chapter 4 this will
be another policy that that's going to need to reflect it and be consistent with the others agreed agreed yep but we're really just changing the 20 the 15 and 20 in this case yes we proposed more changes to 6.3 C and then
we we uh backed away from those changes and left it pretty much as is but yes we'll change the additional 15 and 20 consistently we'll have to do that through all chapters also on page
798 uh number seven is a new uh policy and it's the County May provide an exception or waiver for an impact fee for the development or construction of housing that's affordable affordable as defined in something if the county provides such an exception or waiver
it's not required to use any revenues to offset the impact is this a new statute a new state statute then why isn't it uh what's s42 971 that's a that's a reference to Florida
Statutes so it's not FS something something something it is Florida Statutes 420 yes yeah put I was consistently use the S right thank
you I'm trying to find where else yeah I mean we can add that into saying okay border of statutes FS any more questions comments for staff any uh public comments really yeah don't you just down
is there a motion to continue this item did she have her hand up in the back she did you want to speak to this get up
okay motion to accept uh motion to to continue this until March 25th with any changes that were discussed like FS yeah there's a motion second second you made the motion
there's a motion and a second all those in favor I opposed that motion passes unanimously on to public hearing number six which is a legislative public hearing to consider amending uh
24-7 the recreation element joining joining me is Amy Offenbach planner uh she's going to hit the highlights of chapter seven for us chapter seven is the recreation element of the comprehensive plan and
the um the amend the proposed amendments are not related to any changes in the state statutes and our housekeeping in nature growth management coordinated with the Parks and Recreation Department for
these changes and the main changes are for the removal of the development of regional impact or drri from the plan which is no long longer required by state
statutes and updating the uh Parks and Recreation master plan every 10 years and the yeah if you can go to page 9006 906 yeah
transport what are you looking at I'm looking at um the rest of the changes for the this is the strike and underline if you have any questions for staff we'll be happy to answer but uh staff uh recommends
approval of continuation for March 25th 2025 and this concludes the presentation commissioner Vargas just a question here on page 867 it says the updates to the park and recreation master plan will be conducted every 10
years would that have to correspond with the same amount of years that we discussed earlier today or is this something separate it is separate okay and that was changed from five is that because those are expensive I believe the parks department
does feel that the extending from five to 10 gives them more time in order to uh fund and make the changes build yeah is there anything Kevin does that's not expensive no try and R them in though good money
manager but he does good work he makes money yeah that's right that's Stephanie merley [Laughter] is there any public comment commissioner comments is there a motion to continue this
item it's tough crowd yes there is this is a tough motion to continue this item until March 25th second any comments there's a motion in a second all those in favor I opposed that motion passes
unanimously and we'll take up public hearing number seven which is a legislative public hearing to consider adopting comp plan Amendment 24-16 Arts culture and historic preservation yes okay again Stephanie height Treasure
Coast Regional planning Council and this chapter um the changes again are mostly housekeeping in nature we did want to update um there was a 2015 study done that was in there it was updated in 2022 so those numbers are being updated to reflect the current information obtained
from that study um specific information from Mar County um there are 25 nonprofit Arts and Cultural organization organizations that participate in that study um it identifies 378 jobs in arts and culture 14.4 million in in come to
Residents and 4.22 million in tax revenue to the county um we uh did some updating to some existing conditions the number of historic properties um went up so we listed those and then we added some new organizations um also there's a policy
being revised to reflect the renaming of the public art site committee to the public art advisory committee and terminating the public art master plan and 5-year plan which was done by ordinance by the county in 2019 and then we're just relocating a um
policy um to a different objective because it fits better where that is and that um because it's related to information on local history so and I'd also like to just acknowledge uh Nancy Terrell at Martin Arts um helped a lot with this information and getting um getting these updates to this
data with that um yes we recommend that you um approve to continue this to March 25th and uh that's the end of our present presentation any questions comments I have one question it's on page
1029 and it's a policy 16.2 A1 development of a cultural Performing Arts Center the county shall assist in developing a cultural and Performing Arts Center and other facilities as they come to be needed such as the efforts to renovate and repurpose the historic
Stewart High School building I'm I'm a little sensitive to this staying in our Lane you know I I really don't want to meddle in this and I I wouldn't want somebody medd you know wouldn't want somebody staking
a claim on how we use our buildings well they're doing it it's done they're moving forward with that good I don't want I don't want to have a part in it I don't want to just a quick question sure when you referenced Miss Turell did she help you
and this was her language this wasn't your idea to have the county help with the high school I mean the former I don't recall where it came from but I think it was just as an example of something that was happening at the time so I mean it the way it reads in there it is just being put in as just an
example of something to do I mean we don't have to add that language in I agree with commissioner herd you're welcome just and add the um needed just leave we'll just leave the policy as it is and not have the underlined I just don't want to substitute our
Authority for where it's not appropriate and most likely by the time it happens again that building will be done exactly yeah so we'll just that suggested text that we have in there we'll just not put that in unless sentence add the word needed yeah
just can you just do me a favor and speak to her if there was some reason that I know she's trying for tremendous amount of Grants to pay for this if there was some Grant language that was NE necessary that we show that we have an official kind of the count is
interested in an official point of view I would hate to strike language because we felt we should and then she's doesn't qualify for Grants or something and you could let us know by March 25th that's gold just gold is there any public
comments is there a motion to continue to continue to March 25th second there's a motion in a second all those in favor I opposed that motion passes unanimously and public hearing number
eight is a legislative public hearing to consider adopting comp plan Amendment 24-17 Public Schools facility element and Miss height yes thank you um for this it again it's a lot of just
housekeeping things updating some of the information and the data um and one of the sections the school enrollment has been updated to include information related to decreased enrollment statistics in public schools between 2019 and 2023 and then increased enrollment in charter schools during the
2022 2023 school year also fiscal considerations has been updated to the current information on the district's uh Capital assets and long-term debt we uh revised and added language to related to school concurrency created by development uh included the village of
Indiantown into the annual review of the public school facilities element and then also updated another one um policy to include that the village of Indiantown and the Martin Metropolitan planning organization be involved in efforts to coordinate for sidewalks and
bike paths to facilitate travel to and from schools and Recreation facilities also the maps in there were updated there were two new schools since the last time that was updated uh that were added in the Treasure Coast Classical Academy and the Indiantown high school and and a lot again uh a lot of Thanks
goes to the school district for helping us and providing us the information we needed to update this element yes thank you to the school district any questions or comments from the board would anyone from the public like to address us oh commissioner caps
sorry um does our comp plan require Public School concurrency now for new developments like say a a large development wants to go in I remember years ago that used to be like a thing where you maybe certain people would
say uh you don't have the schools for that development therefore the development cannot happen um or is that kind of been done away with kind of like the road concurrency thing where you can no longer bring up an inadequate Road as a reason for denying
something the statutes and require School concurrency but in your comp plan you do have some I'm I'm not specific with it but there are policies that are going to require development to to um provide those schools you know to do
a study and require what that capacity need would be our interlocal agreement and this this element require that the school district do an analysis and we have actually on our LPA uh a member from the school district that participates and they do review all of
the residential site plans and comp plan amendments and provide us with some basic analysis of their school needs related to it and we do factor that in as a part of plan amendments and a part and as a part of site planning um
however there may be circumstances where if there's a shortfall it is not unlike the what you described with the road situation I think where I remember this is back back in the day when Indian town was going to do the big giant
dri uh I think those arguments were brought up frequently as I remember oh you don't have the schools to do that and uh but actually I mean in in the analysis that has been done on a number of the plan amendments and so on lately is in many of the schools and you know whether it be the high school there may
be only a deficiency in one grade level or you know one middle school or Elementary and and because of the decrease in population as as Stephanie said there's there's not really an issue in many cases commissioner if I could add to
that um one of the uh primary reasons for having the joint meeting with the school and the city and the county and now the village added to it was initially that group was created to discuss concurrency School concurrency and capital projects but since that time
we've also had Charter Schools uh develop significantly and so you can see the um the um the the County School System uh has a number of additional capacity drawn by the number
of charter schools that have been um developed so this story is not it's it's changed what grades does Treasure Coast Classical Academy have almost all 12 now is it through 12
yeah is there any public comment is there a motion to continue this item to continue to March 25th second there's a motion in a second all those in favor I opposed that motion passes unanimously chair most of the motions
and seconds are coming from this side I to the other side as well you're doing a great job down there second half of the meeting you're working hard down there a lot of motions these are good ones for
you entertain people on the left don't want to be responsible for making those motions we're in learning mode plus let's turn this next one down no matter what it is we're just listening to the old prows yeah I'm
old y I feel you're not old not even 50 I have 50 we 50 and then I got are taking up public hearing quas a Judicial number one which is a request for rezoning approval to planned unit development through a PUD zoning agreement for the chansy bay Ranch
project including a master final cycle good afternoon oh sorry so this is quasi judicial any expart disclosures commissioner Vargas uh none uh already been filed my report M commissioner caps yeah if I
have any they have been filed I have them and they have been filed I have them and they've been filed I do and they've been filed MH and have you turned in all of your work stuff and handed it to the clerk copy of my work history and this agenda item is turned
in as exhibit one and anyone who's going to be offering testimony please stand up raise your right hand in do you swear or affirm the evidence you're about to give will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the
truth please proceed thank you madam chair Commissioners uh for the record Brian elim principal planner with the growth Management Department this is a request by WGI Incorporated on behalf of CBR investors LLC for approval of a planned unit
development zoning agreement for the chansy bay Ranch project including a master final site plan for a nine lot single family subdivision and Associated infrastructure with the resulting density of 049 units per acre included with the application is a request for
certificate of public facilities reservation i' like to for the purposes of uh Clarity just bring up this map since the property is over a mile long um it gives you a
little bit better view of where it's at so the approximate 18.2 Acre Site is located on the west side of Southwest Connor Highway approximately 6 miles north of Southwest caner Highway and south of
10150 Southwest Connor Highway which is the property to the north this undeveloped land borders a canal on its west side and Southwest Connor highway on its East Side there's a single family home to the north of the property and due south is cropland the property is
outside the urban Services district and will use well and septic oops sorry the existing zoning District on the property is r2a rural estate density district with a rural density underlying future land use single family detached
dwellings are a permitted use in the r2a zoning District pursuant to policy 4.13 A5 parenthesis 1 of the Martin County comprehensive growth management plan lands with rural density shall be
developed at a density of no more than one dwelling per two gross Acres all rural development shall have a maximum Building height of 40 ft and maintain at least 50% of the gross land area's open space this proposal complies with these
requirements the following tables show the structure setbacks and development standards of the existing r2a rural estate density zoning District the bottom row in red shows the setbacks and development of the proposed plan unit development zoning agreement
so you can see that the existing zoning here is uh setbacks are 30 ft for all stories front rear and side and the proposed setbacks for the Pud is exceeds or meets uh the requirements of straight
zoning double for the side uh at minimum uh it's meeting it for the rear and it exceeds it by 2 ft at minimum for the front excuse me then also for the development standards uh it meets the 2 acre minimum lot size uh the minimum lot
width um it meets the maximum residential density of with 049 and uh the minimum open space for this proposal is 75% and it's required be 50% uh the proposed ped is asking for
the maximum height to be 40 ft which is allowed per the comp plan uh but is not allowed in the straight zoning the applicant is seeking resoning approval to a planned unit development to allow the maximum Building height of 40 ft permitted in the comp plan as a
condition of the Pud agreement the owner will make a one-time public benefits contribution to the county in the amount of $6,000 for use by Martin County fire rescue to purchase one fire preemption device this is uh sheet one of the final
site plan um as I said it's it's over a mile long so it's a little bit over uh I think it's 18.2 Acres so uh that has been split up or divided um into 2 acre lots minimum and you can see that the
East and West uh property lines vary so the lengths of the properties also vary a little bit closer so this is a little bit of an enlargement of the proposal um the
distances of the driveway a aprons is defined by F do at 660 ft minimum which is what's shown on these plans the storm water design includes a large continuous dry retention area along the entire property along the canal with extensions towards the roadway designed to retain
runoff from a 100y year 3-day storm event the event storm water runoff in the event that the storm water runoff becomes too high and excess water excess water will be discharged into Canal which is the legal positive outfall for this project through an emergency
outfall structure here's an elevation drawing showing a conceptual development utilizing the increased height to provide a view of the lake um let me reiterate this is not a proposed development there are no homes proposed with this application it's just showing you uh what could be
done with the Pud uh using the The increased height allowing you to see Lake okachobee over the rim canal and over the um over the Dyke development review staff have found the CBR investors LLC application to
comply with all applicable regulations and the comprehensive growth management plan is detailed in the staff report this application was heard before the local planning Agency on February 20th 2025 and it was voted 3 to2 uh in
favor of accepting staff's recommendation of approval staff does recommend approval of this application and we move that the board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments including the staff report is exhibit one and we move that the board adopt the resolution approving the
resoning from RE 2A rural estate District to planned unit development and approve the chansy bay Ranch PUD zoning agreement including the master final site plan that concludes the presentation question for
St I didn't get the LPA recommendation it was 3 to2 uh in favor of staff's recommendation and the denters what were their reasons do you recall uh yes one um did not want there to be the upper
level which was shown on the conceptual plan to be a living space they wanted it to be just something place you could sit outside uh but not to be enclosed such as in a bedroom no living space I don't
call do you remember what the Other Des Center was he was just basically against uh any code Provisions that would allow a p PUD out there I don't recall anything in really specific oh I I I do
now uh it was the shoreline protection Zone he felt like that uh there should be one on the rim canal in the lake and there isn't one right thanks yes staff would you like to make a present or rather uh applicant would you like to make a
presentation yes thank you is that is not yours um think it's far right sorry thank you not that one not that one either I can't records training we should have that now
briefly um yeah the very top right I was to this one there we go yeah it was is it already up I guess it's already up it's coming yeah there is okay good afternoon Commissioners Matthew Barn senior project manager for
WGI here on behalf of the applicate CBR investors LLC um Brian did a great job you know showing you where exactly this property is so it's it is way out west on the on the rim canal and north and west of of Indian
Town it is as briyan said over a mile long 5600 ft approximately um and it's very narrow it varies in width from or depth I should say from as little as 75 ft at the narrowest part to um 224 ft at
the widest part so they'll be sort of long and skinny Lots is what's proposed surrounding uses also has explained are primarily Agricultural and with some single family residential to the north so this is what you would see this
is what you see currently if you drive along Connor's Highway uh and you look off to the to the West um it's small and narrow and it's really it's separated by the highway from the other property that the same property owner owns so it's
too uh small and narrow to be effectively used as agriculture so um is already zoned um with the r2a zoning so we're seeking to develop a compatible density uh subdivision um so what are we applying
for it's it's a master and final site plan for uh a uh nine single family homes all in 2 acre lots uh as well as a PUD agreement to uh that res zones the property from RE 2A to PUD and it formalizes the development agreement and
the required public benefits um as staff noted in their presentation though that there are things that we are not doing right so we're not requesting a land use change right that's very important um the existing land use destination is rural density which allows one unit for two acres and that's
what we're seeking we're not seeking to increase the allowable density number two we're not um um also increasing the density through any any other means right so we're not increasing the land juice or not changing the future land juice I
should say we're also not like um we're not decreasing the minimum lot size so we're not taking nine units and wanting to build them on Halfacre Lots at one end of the property we're keeping them as intended to be two acre lots the Pud is only necessary in order
to achieve the views of lake okobia that we're trying to achieve in other words it's the it's the height that we're asking to increase which I'll go over later in more detail um but I do want to point out that the existing future land use category of rural density does allow
Heights up to 40 ft so in essence we're seeking to you know normalize if you want to the zoning with the land juice in this case in terms of the allowable height other zoning standards as Brian pointed out in his presentation were actually meeting and exceeding including
side setbacks minimum lot width uh sorry minimum lot Frontage uh the minimum open space we're exceeding from 50% to 75 % uh so with any PUD you have to you know the applicant needs to profer public benefits which of course is
Ultimate the purview of of the board of County Commissioners so we are profer to provide a signal preemption device for the M Martin County fire rescue which as you probably all know is a device that uh is put onto a signal that all the trucks then have the equipment then when they approach the signal it
automatically turns that signal from red to Green if it's if it happens to be R which allows for obviously faster response times across the county there's a a second benefit to the public that is not a public benefit in
the Pud agreement but we think it is a benefit to the county and there for the public which is the design of the storm water system so it's it's it's overdesigned so let me explain that it's the standard uh County storm water design and the south Florida Water Water
Management District design is to hold back your What's called the 25-year 3-day storm event which has modeled all the civil engineers you know know how to design uh storm water to hold back that amount of water so the proposed storm
dry detention areas on this project is designed to retain the 100-year 3-day storm event which is the largest storm you can model right so 100% of all the rainwater storm water that falls on the property will be retained on site and will not be discharged into the public
water system our legal positive outfall is the rim Canal um which is where we would normally be discharging our water but again we're we're designed to hold hold it back for the 100-year 3-day storm event with zero discharge into the public water system that actually does
require about twice the size of the storm water design or dry detention eras I should say so just wanted to point that out as well so we've kind of you saw the site plan in a black and white version on Brian's presentation um I I'll get into
a little more detail of it here it's not anything fancy right it's it's um the size of the property kind of lays itself out in terms of how the the lots are designed but again it's 75% minimum open space one each lot is 2 Acres we're not
increasing density and we're not decreasing the minimum lot size so here's a here's a close-up view of like the southernmost I'm sorry the northernmost three lots just to give you an example um you know each house this house um when you scale it off is
approximately a 3,000 foot footprint just to give you an idea of the what you're looking at as as a representation as Brian stated we're not um we're not proposing specific houses specific Footprints or architecture with with this that that's handled at the building permit stage
that's not part of the Pud process each lot will have its own driveway connection to Connor's Highway and the darker green areas represent what the Dred detention areas are where there's going to be um Landscaping which I'll get into a second and then there's going to be additional landscaping that's not
on our Landscaping plan because it'll be up to each individual homeowner to plant uh trees in between their front the front of their home and the highway here's like the middle Lots as you can see some of the Lots you know on the left side of the screen here that's
where the property gets the narrowest so it's actually too narrow to um to be able to put a home over there so you have to uh some of these home will have to be placed in certain parts of the lot but for the most part the homeowner will have the freedom
to to locate the house obviously not within the setbacks as Brian said we're we have larger than required side setbacks uh in the front and rear setbacks so trees I do want to point out that there's 158 trees on site now right
and um we are proposing to preserve uh about 70% of that 109 trees and therefore which means we're proposing to remove 49 trees from the site uh 60% of those trees that we're proposing to remove are due to poor health uh insect
damage and of course some of the trees out there unfortunately did suffer some severe damage from um the hurricane in October hurricane Milton but uh I'm pleased to report that just in the landcaping that's in the side and the rear yards that we are
proposing to add um uh 4177 sorry we're proposing to add 466 new trees uh which means the total tree count on the property at a minimum will be 575 trees that's a net of
417 new trees on site when you factor in what we're removing due to poor health and other things again that does not count the trees that the homeowners will be placing in their own front yards between their house and the highway I do want to point out that um
in terms of a gopher tortois bur there when the environmental assessment was first done this project actually was filed in in 2023 with the county so in June of 2023 and again in May of 2024 um there was a go for toris Boro found near the southern end of the
property um in mid-February of this year just not too long ago um the site was visited again but the burrow uh was found to be collapsed um perhaps due to um when the hurricane came through but this isn't uncommon this happens with go for turis Burrows all the time in fact
it was a very isolated burrow so it's it's probably that uh he moved on to a different a different location so the one zoning regulation that uh of course we are proposing to modify with the Pud is is the allowable height
um the r2a zoning District limits the height to 30 ft and and we're seeking a height of 40 ft which again is it is consistent with and the same height as Allowed by the rural density future land use designation that is applicable to the property currently so being able to get up to the
40 foot height is um just enough height to be able to see over the height of the Herbert Hoover Dyke that is of course directly to the west of the property and if you think back to the image I showed you when you're driving along the highway that's the predominant thing you
see you know in your in the background of that picture is is the is the height of the Dyke if if we were limited to 30 ft you wouldn't have enough height to be able to see over the top of the Dyke and then down into the lake so keep in mind that the surface water of the lake is
approximately 20 ft lower than the top top of the Dyke it's not like the the water's right below the Dyke I mean we hope it's not right so you have to be able to get up high enough to see then not only over the Dyke but then sort of down into it in order to have achieve you know water views which is the intent
of our request for the add height um you know you heard from staff obviously they're recommending approval um they they have reviewed the project and assert that it meets all of the um guidelines and standards in the comprehensive plan and the Land
Development regulations and I do want to just um wrap up my presentation by U talking a little bit about the applicant which is uh chansy bay Ranch LLC um they actually own the property directly to the east East as well which
is over a th000 Acres of of farmland and pasture land uh the mission of chansy bay Ranch is is as it says here on on on the screen it's to integrate the supply chain from the producer to the consumer to raise process and produce the most tender and healthy local raise 100%
grassfed grass finished beef in a manner that protects and enhances the environment um they are a small local operation with 100% of their cattle that's born and raised and harvested here in Florida here in mostly in Martin
County they are it's a free range operation on there on the east side of the highway with over a thousand acres as I mentioned um the livestock enjoy Humane uh clean conditions it's grass-fed and grass finished beef no grains corn GMO or artificial
supplements or animal products byproducts are in their diet um so real quick the benefits of grass-fed and grass finished beef is that you know it's less overall fat higher levels of heart healthy omega-3 fatty acids more heart disease fight
fighting antioxidant vitamins and environmentally though it's very important that uh it does decrease greenhouse gas emissions compared to uh what you might call traditional cattle farming um it increases the biodiversity of the pasture ecosystem and it improves
the quality of the runoff of the water finally I'll just leave you with this too that um they have owned the property for over 10 years um it's it's in total it's a little over 1500 Acres family-owned they're not developers they're just
seeking to build these again it's the small piece you know on the west side of the highway that's not suitable for agriculture they're just seeking to develop the byright density that's on the property and they do plan to reserve one of these nine lots for the use of their own family so they will you know
they're not they're not selling this or they're not looking to develop this and flip it to a national home builder or anything like that this is one of these Lots will be for their own family so with that I conclude my presentation I thank you for your time and happy to answer any
questions questions for Mr Barnes not officially is there any public comment see I'm X board Mr campy this used to be my district before
the redistricting uh I had when I first heard about this project a couple weeks ago I took a ride out there because I was thinking this is about as far out west as you can get and I hadn't been out this way in a while and the pictures
tell the story there's literally nothing out there so I was originally wondering like why you know why would you do nine units out here it's pretty it's isolated uh it's not for everybody but
you're not building 200 of them you're building nine and um and as I think you our staff and the applicant made perfectly clear 99.9% of this you're allowed to do on your own anyway the only thing that you're really looking for uh for some consideration
from us was that 10t difference um but if you look at it on some of your lot coverages it was supposed to be no more than 50 ft and you're doing you're making it no had to be 50 you're making
the open space 75 and so I think that i s in my mind at least I saw some balance there uh and you know the logical question for me would be why do you need the extra 10 I think it's obvious to build a home out there to the Eastern
side of the Herbert Hoover Dyke looking directly and if you could almost go back to that picture looking directly at the side of the Dyke sort of defeats the whole concept of the sunsets and the the location the value of the location the
only reason to be that far out there other than the isolation would be the gorgeous Western views so I personally don't have an issue with that I think you met all the other criteria um the only reason you're going from
straight to PUD is because like I mentioned about this height issue so the concept of having this dramatic uh public benefit uh that a PUD would come hand inand with on nine homes I don't think
it's the same as when we're doing neighborhoods um and I thought it's one of those examples of an interesting point of view people own this property they have um I'm sure explored hey can we put some of those gorgeous cows over
on the other side of the road or whatever or Farm it they've they've determined that they couldn't um I don't see my position up here to be punitive and to you know knock people down from having ideas uh and aspirations on their own property
and because of that barring public comment which I think you asked for already uh I would make a motion to accept the applicant's staff's recommendation and uh to approve the application commissioner heatherington yep I agree with most of
what you said I do have one question for the applicant I forgot to ask earlier I'd like um while you're coming up I like that you over engineered it to the 100-year storm threshold and de has asked that if sewer is not available to
connect by 2030 that um Advanced treatment systems will be installed in Li of septic tanks so will you be installing those at construction of this um I you mind if I consult with um my team real quick NP and I'll I'll
finish my comments while you're Consulting so I I also agree that public benefit there we got a lot of emails about public benefits um and I I agree they should be able to use their private property and if this was in a location
say on salur or Monteray then I feel like you could require them to do a sidewalk and bike paths and you the things that maybe um the public sees as more of a traditional public benefit but quite frankly with this location I don't
know what um what more you could require them legally to do as a public benefit so with that um pending the answer to this question I would second the motion I think what I'd say at this moment is
of course we will comply with whatever regulation is in place at the time the building permits are sought so I think that's I would I would consider that because if you're building new structures and the the department is requiring those but by 2030 then means
2025 now you'll be just under that window and particularly since you're on the the Dyke and the lake I'm not super familiar with the advanced treatment system systems but there was a a bill passed that those will be um used and
replaced with traditional septic tanks by 2030 so and I'm pretty sure we're not going to be bringing Water and Sewer out there anytime soon nope no that's for sure guys no plan on that right water so commissioner caps uh as it was mentioned
previously this is uh this is not a comp plan Amendment it's not a density increase it doesn't violate our four story height limit and I'm really impressed with the
fact that this is a a small project owned by local a people apparently they own the property right across the street it doesn't obstruct the view of anyone because you have a working Ranch
across Ross the street owned by the same people um they they plan to live in one of the houses themselves and so I will support it Miss Elder yes um Elise Elder Deputy
County attorney I just want I have a couple things I wanted to confirm that we turned in our notice our affidavit notice at the LP for this yes and then I just want to make the record clear that there's nothing in the Pud agreement that requires this family to continue to own these properties they could sell it
to a developer tomorrow just so the record's clear um on that and then there's nothing about the septic in the in the agreement either so that's all any further comments I on the other hand um don't like exceptions um there are always
unintended consequences you know this this uh applicant may be very Noble and and uh uh treasure our comprehensive plan uh but the next one may not be and I'm
fearful any time of of uh raising height limits I don't believe I ever have and now is certainly not the place to start so I won't be supporting the motion there's a motion and a second all those in favor I opposed I opposed
opposed that motion passes three to2 with Commissioners Vargas and herd dissenting thank you now we coming to our last item Department 4 which is an initial assessment resolution for the bo Rage
water main Municipal service benefit unit good afternoon good afternoon Commissioners for the record Sam Amerson utilities and Solid Waste Department director and I have Leo rapetti he's our Technical Services administrator that's our engineering division for utilities and auto waste and Leo is going to
present the item good afternoon um next slide please no us Donna it's us here we go uh the BV neighborhood uh the attach Arrow show shows the benefited area uh shaded
back in pink uh the B ofar neighborhood consists of uh Western bage Plus a small piece at the bottom of Bay Colony this property was uh the bage property was annexed into Martin County from St lcy County in
2013 Martin County utilities received a petition to connect water to 259 residents once we received the ballots back in September of 2020 there were 217 for 41 against approximately 85% of the residents agreed to be assessed for
water within this community at the time the uh range of anticipated cost was between $6,500 and $7,500 Martin County utilities applied for and received State revolving fund financing for this project back in July
of 2023 uh this project and three other uh assessment projects uh the funding for that money uh the interest of that money is about 1.52% uh construction plans were bit out back in December of 2024 accurate
drilling was deemed the lowest responsible bidder uh the Water assessment project will provide a number of uh benefits to the neighborhood including uh in addition to Safe reliable clean drinking water and fire protection the cost here show that each
benefited property would be assessed uh $9,985 uh they have the option of paying that up up front at the beginning of of the project or they can pay over time on their tax bill as a annual assessment for over the period of 20 years for
$638 87 uh the lump sum shown here is consistent with the prior board policy I believe that was approved back in the fall to keep our water assessments uh capped at the $10,000 mark for residents connecting to water uh
they typically use about 6,000 gallons a day they would see a total water bill of just under $35 moving on to schedule uh we're at the second bullet item the initial resolution uh today February 25th uh
what's not shown on here is a uh public Community uh Workshop that will be hosting here in the chambers at uh March 18th uh we're looking uh if the Project's approved we move forward uh looking to commence Construction in May of this year and be
complete approximately 10 months later um in this UHC me Mr repetti yes just a logistical question you said you're going to have the community meeting here in the chambers why not like at the library up in Jensen or something because this is
all the way up that way tucked in off a Brit Road right just as a suggestion I mean you'd probably get more people to come and the more people that come understand the project to make your lives easier kend we uh We've not sent the letters out yet the letters are schedule to go out on March 5th so Point well
taken and we'll we'll take care of that H um so uh in this neighborhood uh Public Works has been busy they've spent uh about a million dollars designing and doing improvements to the drainage within the community concurrent with the
construction of the water main as part of this assessment uh this neighborhood is targeted for Martin County utilities ongoing grinder based septic to sewer program so we have the opportunity to remove uh about 250 septic systems that are in relatively close proximity to the
North Fork of the St Luccia River one of our missions to try to get those properties converted in areas adjacent to the waterways once we're done with this project then Public Works will come in and they will overlay uh all the public roads uh that uh that they maintain out there and so the
neighborhood will be um new drainage New Roads uh water and waste water um uh moving uh moving forward uh we shouldn't have to be back in there for for many many years uh this concludes our presentation and staff recommends the board approved
the initial assessment resolution to create the B Rage water main Municipal service benefit unit and be happy to take any questions at this point you guys are going to make that project so nice St Louis county is going to try to get it back right commissioner Vargas yes I have a
question um who decided to cap this at $10,000 I know you said it was back in the fall before the new board was seated but who who came up with that
um that was developed uh several months back we had another water main assessment project for the Evergreen and wistone uh neighborhoods in Palm City Western Palm City and uh we had balloted them several years ago
and four to five six years ago these water main assessments were coming in between $6,500 to $7,500 per ERC or per per per connection and with inflation everything going on uh supply chain issues pricing
increased significantly for these materials and so when we had a state uh staff level workshop with those communities um it was decided or discussed would be would be able to do some utility contributions in order to
cap that we have a cap of $122,000 on the vacuum sewer systems the assessments and the thought came up well can we cap the waterm assessments because the prices have gotten extremely high since some of these subdivisions were first balloted and so that's how
this came about the board asked uh staff to review our policy on assessments to include that language uh in the policy we brought that department level policy back to the board and the board approved that unanimously and so we're following
board policy as best we can and and Commissioners if I can uh comment on that too in your in our comp plan uh our primary utilities job is to provide services within the urban service boundary and so
um how well is that working out for us really well it's doing well so uh um the so one one of the the the project that highlighted uh with the Evergreen one was that there was was a lot of infrastructure needed to get to that project and there was canal and some
other things and so part of that policy was to look at what is the utility doing in regard to um um uh getting the the infrastructure to the subdivision and so we looked so that was part of the important part of the policy is that the
looking at getting the um the infrastructure to the subdivision then the assessment would be based upon the servicing on the internal of the subdivision too so that we could have some consistency between one assessment to the other and because we'd already
had a policy regarding sewer projects um uh with a cap at uh uh roughly was it 12,000 that the the water was uh recommended that we have a cap at 10,000 we're on a number of projects um where
you already have existing infrastructure nearby we could come under that cap without having to do anything and those that other ones we may need to seek grants or other means to be able to to get the price down so that was the impetus for the actual program to um to
encourage the infill development um uh to have water and sewer commissioner campy yes thank you I think that's a very legitimate question especially considering that you weren't here for the process the story goes back
further than that that particular neighborhood uh had taken a vote and had agreed to do water and our staff had created an option since there's a canal there of trying to come across it was a much closer uh trip if you will for the
piping to come under the canal uh or the Waterway that's there into the neighborhood but it required uh a lot of back and forth uh approvals from the D the flid south Florida and the core of engineers uh for them to eventually say
no but that took a couple of years and then by that point the price had gone from as what Mr Amerson said as a reasonable price to much more expensive so the residents were saying wait a second a couple of years ago we had agreed to these prices yes you had an
engineering strategy that would have been terrific but it didn't work so now we're being punished to the tune of thousands of additional dollars as well as what you heard that everything is more expensive and what we found is that if you make up if you create a price
that is so high then you defeat your ultimate goal because the residents will always deny it they won't do it and um to Mr Donaldson's Point Evergreen happens to be one of those neighborhoods that sort of stretches out far off of
High Meadow not High Meadow Murphy uh towards the back with larger Lots uh but it's an older neighborhood so you'd think wow this is a very fancy rich neighborhood well not necessarily if people bought those houses 40 years ago
and you'd think well they can easily afford to pay whatever they can't they're older residents that live in there but the problem was is that the original calculations had assumed that we would bring you know that the neighborhood would pay to get the pipe
all the way in there when really it's the C's responsible to get the pipe to the front gate and then the residents pay and what you'll find in the future even in your most of your district is pretty well established but what you'll find is that's not the only price that
those residents will pay that brings the waterline to the street in front of their home they're still going to be responsible for the connections and the plumbing and the rest of it which is most of the time especially on those larger Lots additional thousands and
thousands of dollars so it's not out the door a tent but we just needed to create some kind of a ceiling because these gentlemen are going through all this effort to have the projects denied because they thought it was going to be 8,000 but instead it was
15,000 and so now there's some consistency if you get both it's $22,000 before you do any work thank you commissioner Vargas yes what is uh Mr Emerson what is the actual cost for this I've heard everything that's been said
but what's the actual cost the total Construction cost her home her home would be her home uh without any cont without any contributions from the utilities or any grants the cost is approximately
$3,580 per ERC per connection just to the street not to the house that's fine but that's the cost that's where I'm that's the infrastructure say here so who makes up the difference for that
it's in our calculation sheet we have a line item for contributions whether it be Grant State funding other sources um utility funds in this case the utility is contributing approximately $930,000
uh for this effort so that's moving it from another fund that you could have used that money for it's from utility funds CFC funds utility contributions utility fees Commissioner of Vargus this was also until pretty recently an oddball Enclave
of St Lucy counties and we were persuaded to uh Annex them by years I can't believe it yeah by um one of our state representatives I'm just curious on the
first uh aerial there is a great big uh swath of Green Space to the east of the assess assessment area is that privately owned that all that that's my is that
publicly or privately owned all that privately owned oh that's the that's the golf course isn't it no uh there's actually there's actually a slew that passes through to from the north you can see the the water body east of the where it says Bo rage it
there's a slew that runs all the way down to the bridge that we're actually Crossing on Brit road that ultimately goes to the Waterway uh just east of the pink area at the South uh tip there so those grades in there are extremely low
they're in elevation two3 four um the the reason that there is uh a pink large rectangle that's all owned by one person uh they have graciously uh given us an easement across uh their property uh the
neighborhood to the north has a water main and adequate easements to be able to get to there so instead of us having a and water main coming down Brit Road we're able to Loop that back to provide redundancy and better water quality through the north neighborhood by allowing him to connect and you know at
the future if he wanted to build something on that lot then obviously we'd have to meet all the other Mar County Land regulations and permanent requirements is the same thing true of the the uh the vacant land on the south that's half the size that's a
residential property that fronts um Brit road so it benefits from our existing project okay if you zoom way in below the tennis courts you can see a small white box uh that's an existing home and that's all his property that wraps around there I've been there as a matter of fact yep
okay h no it's I'll think of it a bit okay okay great commissioner caps can you talk a little bit about the goals of our septic to sewer plan uh just for a good review for
us uh new new folks on the commission here sure absolutely um I came on board in April of 2018 and the county staff prior to that had been trying to develop a septic to sewer conversion program or septic tank
elimination program 2015 a report was provided um we call it the captech report and identified some priority areas 24 priority areas um that the county should evaluate for sewer systems
to eliminate septic tanks uh in November or December of 19 the board staff brought a policy to the board a septic SE to sewer conversion policy to the board which they adopted and it was uh the board's really an environmental
initiative uh to improve water quality in the rivers reduce nitrogen and phosphorus loadings on the river and surface waters and so we brought that forward that was approved and the goal basically was to provide Sewer Service to 10,000 homes in 10
years and which is a pretty big challenge um well it was originally 20 years and we then we yes up we said Thank you thank you I appreciate that number one in the number two I knew that
was yes that's true story well I say it starts in parks and it ends in utilities [Laughter] so but that was basic initiative and so we we've been working on that um the Commissioners understood early on that
if we were going to be successful in getting grants the only way we could make this happen make it somewhat cost feasible was through grant funding and other sources uh the county recognized that we needed some skin in the game when we apply for Grants local matches and the board which I've never seen in
my career uh since it was a board's initiative they contributed state revenue sharing and some fpn franchise fees to assist in that process and that was because a lot of this work when it's complete the roads need to be milled and resurfaced so once the construction's
complete we've got completely basically New Roads for the residents and so that was the only way we could actually make this happen and they they they realized that early on and it's been a huge benefit for the program and so how far
long are we uh for 10,000 houses in 10 years uh so so far between our vacuum sewer program and our grinder based program we are approaching 5,000 units uh available for Connection in the past uh about six years so we we're well on
target uh this neighborhood would be neighborhood number 18 that we're able to get septic to sewer conversion St uh with our grinder based uh grinder based septic to sewer program great and then I had one other question the the Caps that we have for
10,000 on water and 12,000 on sewer no relation not necessarily no I meant to your last name sorry oh okay are those reasonable for the future you know I mean like you described a period of time where inflation drove the
water number from 7,000 to 10,000 it wasn't that long of a period of time like how how long can we rely on those two numbers that's a very good question um going for forward uh we may not be able to rely on that in the next several
years but uh we will know we will have a couple more projects out to bid in the near future and we're going to reevaluate it that at that time um it may be that we have to modify that policy going forward if we see that
inflation is not coming down significantly and material pricing is not coming down labor is not coming down um but if we see uh a downward Trend in those costs we definitely should be able to keep it on those caps we currently
have but it's it's going to be I think a wait and see on the next several projects that we receive bids Comm goad add into that if you um I think you can sustain that number for a number of
years if the state continues to invest 100 to 300 million a year into uh septic to sewer and uh surface water uh Improvement projects if we're able to do that I think we'll be able to get grants
that can match 5050 or or or they're close to that or maybe a little bit more and on average we should be able to meet the goal but it will be it will be dependent upon the State of Florida continuing to invest in um in our water program great and then just looking at
this map here when you when you see the close proxim to the North Fork of the St Lucy River uh I think the uh the river is going to be breathing a sigh of relief so good job with this thank you and just a quick comment and thank you
for recognizing that and even though you see they're all not Waterfront Riverfront the drainage system in here eventually discharges to the river which most subdivisions do what that was on treatment retention they all discharge through the river
a good point commission Vargas yes this may be a question for Mr Donaldson how often or when can we revisit this initiative um that has the cap sort of piggybacking on to what commissioner
caps had uh referred to um I don't see pricing going down or any of the other enumerated items that Mr Emerson referred to so normally we would bring this up uh uh when we were struggling with meeting
the goal for instance the challenge would really surface when you have a project that in order to fulfill the special assessment and we've maxed uh the local and state contributions and you have a project that is a go noo at
let's say 13,000 or 14 or whatever it is uh we would that's normally when we bring it to you and ask you um this doesn't meet your policy but this is this is the best we can do do you want to continue this or do we want to amend it other than that it would be simply
anytime the board asked us to revisit the program okay any further questions do you have a motion on that one not yet I will move staff's recommendation for approval second there's a motion in a second all those
in favor I oppose that motion passes unanimously thank you very much thank you have a good day we look forward to seeing you soon that brings us to the close of our meeting we'll hear commissioner comments commissioner
Vargas nothing yet commissioner caps I'm good I am too commissioner campy um I have had I'm sure it's happening everywhere but in the last two weeks there's been some very serious car
accidents in pal City uh specifically along the Martin Downs Boulevard area um one was a fatality across the street from the Cummings Library which has had a share of accidents there uh
the neighborhood is Pine Ridge on the South Side there it's just like where mat ends and I've been hearing this for quite a long time I know that when and I I Mr Donaldson will get panicky when I
say this next point but the permissive flashing yellow arrow imagine if you will you're came over the Palm City Bridge you're driving on Martin Downs Boulevard you live in Pine Ridge you're getting you're in the
left turn lane you get the blink it's a it's a older neighborhood I don't know if it's specifically 55 and older but basically it's an older res residential neighbor and I don't mean older like the houses are old the people that live in it are
older so now you there's cars that are looking to make the left heading to go north on maen and the traffic coming on Martin Downs Boulevard is racing towards you so you're older you've been driving for a long time car is behind you
putting a little pressure on you so you go and you cannot see because there's cars basically doing the opposite left turn in front of you so you can't really see so you sort of go for it and we've created a situation where people are
losing their lives or being catastrophically injured I I don't have the statistics but I would tell you from uh anecdotally there's been several accidents there in the last couple of years the residents reach out to me and
they say you have to do something I completely agree with them I know that that road is a state road it's an fot Road and I get the value I I personally don't get the value of flashing uh permissive yellow arrows I get that it's a traffic engineering technique and I'm
not debating that but I think what we need to have as Commissioners and staff is the ability that if we see consistently a situation that we should be allowed or
eligible to eliminate it there at that specific intersection not necessarily everywhere but I can't with a straight face go and then I speak to those people all the time with a straight face and say I just we're not going to do anything about it you know
their neighbor and their friend is dead the accident was absolutely horrific it was like you could barely understand which were the cars we have to address that it has to it if we do it as a pilot program I'm
really ins insisting that we eliminate that left turning blinking Arrow at Martin Downs Boulevard as it enters into Pine Ridge I can at least go back to that neighborhood if I have to and show
them this video but I really mean it that we need to address that I don't want to hear or get an email or a phone call from somebody else that says another person has has been seriously injured there
they cannot comprehend the driving technique involved for making that turn into blind traffic plenty of people can I'm concerned about the people that can't thank you I I agree with you I think
that they're in some low volume intersections they work fine but the same thing is true of Indian Street and Dixie Highway and it's an unsafe situation it's awful it's you you no one should be turning turning on a yellow uh
Arrow at that inter intersection you just can't see uh so I you know and there are others along uh uh Dixie that work just fine but that one is an example of one where it shouldn't be allowed the one at Martin down uh Martin
Highway and map where I make the left to go to my home the advantage is in both directions North and South if you're making the left there's the Turning Lanes to make the left and and then there's like a striped out like 10t extra and then there's the two straight
Lanes so that extra little width of that extra Lane allows you to see if any cars are coming the one that I'm mentioning by Pine Ridge it's blind there's no possible way to look past the cars to see if anybody's coming plus the
straight away from the light previous is so far down these cars are picking up a not they're not drivve even if they were driving 45 which is I think what that is there they're doing 55 or 60 you're basically just trying to play Russian Roulette did you get my
point not a time for humor but yes I do um I we have a new traffic engineer Eric Ferguson he uh actually had been with us in the past we were lucky to get him back and so I will have him take a look at those intersections uh that were mentioned today and um uh and make
recommendations to dot by the way speaking of Eric Ferguson you should talk to him he made a presentation to the mo yesterday about improving intersections on Dixie and hobes sound just in hop sound at about five intersections right and it was really a
good presentation he's he's bringing some some really good suggestions to you he had been with us for a while then he went down to Palm Beach then he went up to Indian River he's got a really remarkable resume for handling these kind of issues so yeah I mean I love luk
Lambert but I I'm I'm okay with our replace where does he live and he lives in Palm City you know of course that's him right there yeses don't walk in go go no come on in come on in the Commissioners are calling he was he just casually walking
by we're talking about you no I yes I can you introduce yourself to our new colleagues and explain your resume I had heard about it uh Eric Ferguson traffic engineering administrator I was previously the
County Traffic engineer in in River County and I've been a Palm City resident think when did I I worked here before from 2008 to 2014 I was a project engineer and uh in traffic and I also
split time on the C so I'm glad to be back again what' you do in Palm Beach County oh I I went to I came from minie River County most recently yeah but I was Palm Beach County I was a roadway project engineer I jumped around a little bit I was went to City of West Palm Beach yeah
what was your big project Claus Street yeah and that that won a lot of awards you did Claus yeah don't well you can say that here in the county don't say that in there so I was just saying you made a really really good presentation to the no yesterday and unfortunately commissioner caps wasn't there but I
asked him to meet with you so that you could give him the presentation cuz it's going to please him yeah right look forward do it yeah we identified it's the project focuses on five Crossings in hob sound so awesome and we're even potentially a traffic signal
Eon a limited as you're well aware we have very little space between Dixie and the tracks for trucks so there's and there's a lot of the other signals need upgrades to meet current standards so it's a lot
of what I sorry oh go ahead yeah um any as I mentioned yesterday when you weren't there Indian River County had a best practice um Grant with bright line that I was kind of was kind of Lucky my predecessor there was a national expert
on railroads and traffic signals and we did a lot of innovative things at other that's the only place in FBC and I'm GL glad that hopefully we can if we get this grant we'll be able to do the same thing and Martin County so I I could be happy to explain it to you more I
looking forward to it thank you welcome back while I have you here I would say that uh taking my shot I'm not going to I'm not going to waste my shot um as a Palm City resident Martin Downs Boulevard when you make the left into Pine Ridge they have a permissive yellow
flashing Arrow there was a fatality there two weeks ago that that specific intersection and our colleagues have a couple others ma mat mathys and you'd make the right onto math it's where it dead ends right at into Pine Ridge the the neighborhood's demographic is older
so people pull out in front and get killed and so I need you to work with fot that cannot be it needs to be a straight Red Green Arrow left Arrow there because I can't continue to make excuses
for the catastrophic accidents that are happening there right we we did receive some requests from residents in Pine Ridge on that we forward it to fdot need I'll need more than that okay yeah thank you yep welcome back okay see you in the
neighborhood commissioner heatherington I'm all set Mr Donaldson we're good Miss Woods anybody else we are adjourned