and action you're the gabble man all right uh it is april 8th tuesday at uh approximately 6:34 6:35 um we can call this meeting to order uh we can all rise and say the
pledge of allegiance i pledge algiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all
maybe raise that up what yeah now you're now you're lower there you go i have short legs all right now that we have the meeting called to order um first off uh it it uh
i would like to uh say welcome to lauren thank you mother-in-law grandma lauren grandma uh happy to have you here i'm excited to have you here um you know uh you do a lot of things in the community and i
feel this is just another great addition to what we have here i mean we have some really good people here yeah i'm excited to be a part of it awesome awesome so welcome thank you does uh anybody have anything that they'd like to add to the agenda this evening i would like to
propose we axe out number 10 discussion on rinkboard purchase option kyle and i went to take a look at the ring boards in chanhass and half of the boards are rotted out and yeah like i said i don't know research well we went and looked at
them and the way they cut them up they did it as best they could but you'd still need plates to reassemble the whole thing and it'd be such a nightmare to put it back together yeah we can strike that off there but it was good to take a look and it was good to take it as an option right i was hoping to come
back with better nudes on cheap rink boards that we could put in that would have been nice but what do we do uh any other additions without any i'll look for a motion to approve the agenda make that motion second second all in favor say i i i
motion carries all right uh on to last month's agenda approval or the minutes i went through them i didn't see anything that except for you know you didn't record my food i try to keep them clean thank you thank
you i appreciate that video yeah uh and if we have no changes or nobody needs to anything change i'll look for a motion motion second all in favor say i i
all right on to discussion items this golf course thank you mayor lutheran has officially approved their end of the land use agreement yes so that is in good order uh this is an updated uh jason clark continues to work on
updating this he's actually working on getting this gis mapped into the county software which would be nice so in here you have more detailed on the lengths of the holes uh so you you if you were to
look at this a little bit closer that's the whole number that's its total length the number in red is the width of the fairway we tried to keep that in six foot increments because that's what our mowers are we want this to be as maintenance friendly as possible
um the red line here that's a snowmobile trail we wanted to position things that were not interfering too much with the snowmobile trail uh the purple area is a kind of a walkaround path of it's not related to the course itself necessarily
but if people want to walk around the property course coincides with that as well okay so that's more of a complete with the disc golf course incorporating the cross country trail in there as well because we want to be mindful of
that as well otherwise uh just a more detailed map of it um city council had this as a disc as a discussion item at their last meeting our good mayor uh we talked about sponsorships all of that uh the good mayor would like to see us have
sponsorships in hand before we proceed with the project um uh then he also shared that um he had mentioned something about uh some boards some image boards that were done years ago about ci it seems
like cip planning for the park project or the park uh improvements in general i wasn't able to find those boards but the more information i gathered and more more it sound like it was a visualization of what we were here we
did any of that the the move stuff around in the parks he said it was a vision board where you guys just kind of had we just we took little images that were cut out and pasted them on a map of the parks i don't know if you were here yet at that
time so yeah it was quite a while ago i couldn't remember exactly how long attic somewhere or something yeah i like i say i think that was even that might have even been with luan so that was he said lan yeah so um yeah and like i say that
wasn't anything in concrete that was just kind of us figuring out some sort of a plan for the future because we really didn't have anything discussed or anything down that was like well you know what should we have in this park and what you know
how do we divide some of these things up so that's kind of what that was was a visual cip right um and that's a changing document all the time so yeah and that's why we have it under the night to start that review
process right as new ideas come up and others drop off for some reason we keep this fluid and changing so it's not just this is set in stone because we set in stone 15 years ago and now we follow it blindly so but to his point it
was why are we focusing on this when there was other stuff in the back burner that we aren't addressing right mhm yeah he came uh the good mayor mentioned that and i think that's that's where we evaluate each
year what the cip offers right right and i don't know i mean i'm i'm not i'm not sure what exactly he's hung up on i mean like i said it was kind of it was one of those things the idea came
up and it's an easy one to get done i know what he mentioned was if i may if that's okay that um since the splash pad and everything is kind of coming to a completion that he thought we would maybe take a pause then and go back and
readress and relook at the things that were kind of thought about over the years before jumping into another project and i mean did you get a chance to speak with the mayor about that no i haven't yet so we you know we didn't
vote on it yet so it's back here okay to discuss it i i don't know if if we justify prioritizing it or or not or is that what you're thinking i don't know and that's what i want to come back to the board with um brought back with some
questions um from the park board uh we've been doing work on it um i know it's a project you guys have wanted to do but i don't know if we've actually sent up a unified voice one way or another of this is what we'd want to do
or we're okay putting it on the back burner and taking a break and do other stuff what was his view on sponsorship are we was it the 250 annually or a,0001 deal or didn't necessarily they liked
both but they just wanted to see a commitment because they didn't know how legit that would that was that if anybody would actually do that so they wanted us to get kind of feelers out in the community and and and see if anybody would commit now
to sponsoring ahead of it i brought up the question how do you get people to sponsor if we're not even committed to doing it but um they all the council agreed i think that it was a doable thing to speak i guess i would say then
we need to get like a a plan like you have there so we can then propose it to the sponsors in town that would be interesting so they were we could show we should get a mocka plaque what it would be what size it would be um that's
a good idea and what would be your interest annual or just one time type of thing and i know a few people we can talk to in town i'm sure mike does you do i mean we did tell i feeling i could have it
sold in a week but oh see and that's good i think there's enough people in town here that would do it i think so i think there was some a little question over that how committed people would be to doing that but i mean it's something a lot of people are going to see mhm i
mean if the way you're talking i mean frisbee golf is it's been going for 30 years if not longer that and disc golf or disc golf and pickle ball are the top two recreation sports right yep right i mean i like
that you brought this out because it'd probably be good to look and make sure we're not missing something that's more important yep so in last year we went through a ranking process like this
where we had all of these listed and if there's something that's not on there that we miss you might take this home and over the the course of the month you go "well we forgot about this here." well we bring those things in and say "well what about doing this in the park?" add it to the list figure out where it ought to be prioritized get
cost associated with it and meld that in with the cip itself so you look at a longterm through here i didn't print off the whole thing just because it's you won't be able to when you pull on the financial side i'm
trying to plan out stuff towards 2050 yeah a little smaller right so are we going to jump ahead to nine then or do you want to um i'd like to wrap up on we'll wrap up
on dis disc golf first i'm i'm excited about the project uh personally i think uh it gives the community something else to do um you know some of the maybe the the older kids or or adults that aren't so much
into the splash pad um i think we can bring a lot of people hopefully a lot of people into town with some interest in in having another amenity and then hopefully you know visiting some of our our other establishments in town and
yeah that's what the biggest people come to town and they haven't been here before and go "oh hey right brought that exact idea up at city council i said i think it potentially could bring revenue to the city because people don't know we're here people say you're for mayor i mean laconia because
nobody knows where right right it's gotten better but it has yeah right and and you know in speaking with you know uh jason and a couple of the other guys that have been working on this i mean they have a vision of of hopefully holding tournaments and you
know putting this you know they they they have a there an app or something that they use and they keep scores of all these other places they go and play and it's kind of you know it's like a tournament but yeah i mean and and i
i think it can only do do really good things for the community i mean i know there's some other projects that we may have [Music] uh but i don't think that any of these other projects are going to bring interest into the city like i i feel
this will well this this helps bring money in i mean if we have sponsorship that's why i kind of leaning towards annual because well then yeah it'll pay itself off in three years but then we'd still it will go towards other projects in town right the revenue i mean is
there a way to bring some of this um evidence of the popularity of the sports and what they think you know you're talking about jason talking oh yeah i'm sure i mean we could say shows i mean i'm sure you know that we get these guys interested in coming to a
council meeting and i mean i'm sure that they would you know i mean they're pretty avid players you know they're playing all the time and and i mean because i think if it can be shown that that it's going to be something that's lucrative or not even
lucrative but really just gives more face value to mayor or whatever um and like you said gives people things to do other than the splash pad i don't have little ones anymore and that's yeah i mean teenagers and stuff i mean they're not going to be interested in splash bed
it's you know but it gives them another alternative than just maybe playing basketball or hitting a ball on a ball field i mean this gives them another option of maybe something to do without having to get in trouble right which is good right
i mean you know something to do outside it's a little bit of exercise it's outside it's well and then to show that it's again going back to cip that it's a higher priority project then that the other things aren't as pressing right yeah so i think that's the mayor's concern i don't think he was necessarily
kaiboshing he just said "yeah it wasn't against it just wasn't sure it was the highest of priorities just because like the things we want to do in meadow it just that stuff's going to cost a lot more money this is something that's well it's not yeah and
for me it's not even about the money it's about you know we can build gazeos we can we can build these other things but how much service are people going to get out of that i mean you're you're now you're limiting yourself to one group
maybe it's you know um whereas this i feel is is something that's broader and a bigger spectrum than just a gazebo at a park well in my opinion too i mean i think it's huge that it's partnering essentially not a full partnership but with mayor lutheran because now you've
got a whole bigger community right um and this that's involved here um because bringing businesses in to help with our city is what we want and now you've got a huge school that has a huge outreach that they're going to bring people to
the disc i mean i don't know play disc golf and i was like hey that's pretty great but who knows what they'll end up doing with it in the future right i mean they may have clubs where they're having tournaments and they're having you know all we know could be in an olympic sport
in a few years and then everybody's gonna want to play you know and didn't you show too there are other things that we'll be able to do there you know you'll have pavilions and things or what were you talking about that potentially in the future for other usage for disc golf
wasn't there something like a i'm not remembering that like a a part where they could have there was a little like a like a concrete part where they could put oh that so that was up in discovery park i
believe was that with the pickle ball courts up here yeah and that's just was that by the disc golf course or no yes so that's by the disc golf course so that's located right up here okay yeah and we we've talked about you know there again putting a pavilion or gazebo or
something up there yeah putting a gazebo up here i mean and like i say that's those those are great for shelter and whatever but we're not going to get anybody into town to sit under a gazebo right unless we're
not and that's you're not a lot of times i know growing up in town here that was just a place for all of us to meet and cause trouble yeah you know it was so well it's like waconia has their i work
right across from it it's pretty it's cute it's used at christmas time and during events nickel dickle but otherwise nobody's in it right maybe a wedding here and there but that's i've never seen a wedding out there but yeah i performed one probably have been i'm so
used to seeing dead people yeah so yeah but i can speak from my experience the first city i worked for cami we put in a nine-hole disc golf course in 2012 2013 some somewhere around there and it went gang busters we had people playing in
winter the school district use it for community ed and student programs uh we had tournaments there as part of the community celebration days and then just on its own there were tournaments held there well that's that's what i'm
envisioning i'm you know i'm envisioning this thing getting a lot of use so i don't get what anybody else's ideas or opinions are but i mean and i know we're going back and can be is a community that's nine miles from the south dakota border that was a population of 1,800
yeah good and i know i'm going back to the cip too but they talked about like the skate parks i'm like well how many people actually use the skate park i mean how many there's kids that do but i was going to say i i see quite a few i mean i don't know how to judge it
against like the other facilities it's like right well against the golf course um well yeah that'll i think that'll probably draw more but i mean there's when we go to the the park next to the skatepark i mean there's almost always a kid or two out there so i don't know
what the threshold is for like you know i thought it died with my but i mean there's kids out there all the time us gen xers okay well so then we have to what do we
do in order to yeah what what what are next steps i mean what do we do you put feelers out we ask questions i like the idea of having a mockup i would say have a mockup plaque have meet with jason set up for the next council so then we have
a plaque that if that's enough time if we need two months or whatever it needs to be but this is the prime time to get it done is sooner than later absolutely but then you know have our ducks in a row maybe speak did you speak on to the mayor of what your can be
we've talked about that a bit as well in private okay he knows my experience there okay um that was just his stance on it yep right that's where we're come back to the park board because i don't know if we ever
send i know in previous meetings we've all been excited well some of the membership has changed a little bit but we were all pretty excited it this came up as an option uh andy and jason came in and they talked to us about it seemed like a fantastic idea so bam we jumped
on it yeah did it jump in front of a bunch of this stuff sure did okay but when a good idea crops up you know and we've had other ideas that we've looked at we've looked at archery which isn't isn't gone but there again you're you're you're kind of
limiting yourself on who's going to use the archery you know and then you have people worried and nervous about letting their you know young adults or whatever go out there and and shoot and and you know so this is just something that i feel is just
it's just an easy recreational thing that can you know bring people into town and well and i don't think the cost is too high no to be honest for the for the amenity for the price i don't think there's anything that beats it right like as a new as a new amenity like
that's and it's just something we never had thought i mean dirt cheap compared to anything else we like i said i've never played disc golf i'm excited to try it i i never would have thought of it on my own y i've seen people walking
around crown not even playing walking with people that are playing and like "oh that's pretty that's fun." well yeah we actually we've been talking this in the board for about six months the mayor does doesn't know we talked about it for six months so yeah so he's like "yeah." so i personally would like to
pursue it i don't know if anybody has any other feelings on it but i yeah i mean that's just something i feel that we can so coming in late u is there just there mayor just basically asked a question uh kind of where did this come from type of
thing or you know let's make sure we want to do this before we do it yeah that was basically the feeling um it came up quick i was looking at minutes it was about a year ago in april when we what a year ago yeah it was april when andy first came in and just mentioned
the idea to us at the meeting so it's relatively new and we've been working on it and i think it's just that we've had all this other stuff in the mix and now this is jumping the line to get to the front so there might be i haven't talked
to him so careful what i go assuming his thought processes are on camera but for me if i have a good idea that crops up it can jump the line if it's a really good idea well and mention possibly taking a pause because we had just finished sure another big project
sure i'm also a foot on the gas type of project first and it's like yeah bam bam bam let's right go my thought is if one we had a a vocal you know someone come in and actually speak to it which we don't really have for almost anything
and so like that that gives right for me like puts weight on it well it's like oh there's enough appetite for someone to come speak about it also if as long as we're not uh i think as long as we're not um jeopardizing our ability to
maintain anything that we currently have i don't see a reason to pause unless there was something we really really wanted to do that we were then having to like push off and and on our list like i don't i mean aside
from in my the only the only thing in my mind that i would i personally would like to see is some sort of uh you know other use on the back side of westridge but i don't have a personal opinion of what that should be or like and we've kept a lot of things around there and
it's like well well they did bring up the parking lot too the possible parking lot by the park by the donut donut metal mhm um which i i thought about this after the fact to be fair but we're going to probably be having construction
on a dollar general on that intersection i don't know that seems like a pretty big project to undertake isn't that right across the street kitty corner yeah so we had talked about entrance up around the fifth streetish
area is one of the possible ones we go straight through yeah that's what we had talked about straight through because we've got rightway here in between the two properties possibly in here into parking here so relatively speaking oops wrong
one that's the dollar general lot right there or that's a potential entrance okay so it's a little further down that would be the only real option i mean i don't think the one on the other end sixth street maybe you'd have to move the sock you'd have to do some a
lot of stuff how was there let me just ask because you know new to the park um when did this come up was there a big demand for it when it first came up that people wanted more parking options over there there wasn't really it was an idea that
we discussed because there isn't a real access to that park right so that was something that we nobody came and asked about it i don't think we've ever brought it up at any of our events um it was just something that we had kind of looked at and said "well
some parking back there would be nice." okay um the issue with the parking is the way ordinances are set it's got to be asphalt mhm or concrete it's got you know there's so many measures that we're we're not talking a cheap project right
i mean this is not something that's just you know throw some gravel down and call it a day this is i mean that's we got to do sewer is is the trails is the trail from me compliant or is that getting updated as part of
the trails project oh yeah coming down from me so i've got i've got those caught we're dabbling in number that's fine we can bounce a little bit but in meadow park on the cip the parking lot itself is about 60 grand for 15 stalls the trail reconstruction is about 70,000
69,000 so i was just kind of wondering like you know westridge doesn't have anything more than that it's very equivalent like the distance you're walking from meadow down to the park because you got to park up here to really access yeah but that's
about the same you're doing in westridge like you there's not anything better in westridge like you're parking along the street along the alley yeah we put that parking on in in the alley there so my question is do we actually need to provide parking versus just like street
parking you know like a community park like you probably you you already have to do the trail reconstruction like that's kind of a needed so like do we have to do addition more additional parking than is available in the along the street there versus or is it just
because it's less visible right because we when my kids were little never went to the park or are we trying to encourage use of the soccer field we don't go there a lot because we we you know didn't know how to get in there for one it just wasn't on our radar we
always went to the other parks that were easy accessible but that being said we didn't necessarily drive to them we we walked by yeah so i don't know the demand for a parking area granted it's really great
here because you've got all the stuff but i i think i remember us talking about it was like about trying to promote use of the soccer fields oh okay for that was the reason i've been approached that people would like to rent the field for their soccer field i
see okay okay i was wondering what the draw i was just curious what that neighborhood would think if you're adding yeah between the properties now well yeah the properties and then there's you know the homes that are kind of around that that meadow area there same thing the uh i i just don't
know if they if were there feelers put out about any of it at the time no not that i know of i don't think anybody i know it's still devil's advocate parking in parks is a normal thing it is so it is if they don't like it well
every park nearly every park i've ever been to has parking yeah true with residential around it so it's not a new concept true if they don't like it maybe can put up some shrubbery to help stop the headlights but how do
you fence i think it's prioritizing and again we're going to have to go back to and that's what i'll get back to is yeah a parking lot would be nice there but you weigh that against something like a disc golf course i'm in disc golf course territory
for a third of the co cost that potentially could bring and it's a new amenity and like it's there's nothing currently impeding re actually impeding anyone's use of that at the moment correct so it's like yes that's a nice
thing but it'd be also be nice to have a whole new entity for a lot less money well and all the things we talked about bringing the revenue to the city partnering with the school i don't know the potential there i think is a lot bigger than
parking spaces for i agree i i i would love to see a parking lot there i mean we've talked about that for quite a while but i i just don't see the urgent importance to me i if we could go that area needs more planned a long time ago but in my
opinion too that area almost needs a little bit more planning i personally would like to see like i don't know i'm assuming we've done this before but you know we have a lot of space there we have a lot of space in westridge we have a lot of space in the
what we affectionately refer to as the swamp i would i mean i'd be open to is that whatever's on the end of fourth street oh no at that that end of forest street the swamp down by you swamp behind mayor luther there yeah so
i mean i almost would like that i'm i'd be open to or interested in pursuing like a potential like consultant where you hire you know like a group who does park planning or something like that and be like "these are the spaces we have like can we get some ideas or something
like that?" because it's i mean it would just suck to do something with one of these large spaces and then be like "oh man it really would have been nice if we would have done that." but we didn't think about it um i don't know i don't know well that's what i mean by never done that or i feel like it needs more
planning and so this is something disc golf's ready to go yeah so it's jumped ahead yeah but it doesn't require a lot architects we didn't have to hire nobody was hired they was all volunteered that's another 20 grand right there right and
and you know we've got mayor lutheran agreeing to to you know assist kind of with the property that is a huge thing i i think you can't look the property in the face like they're willing to let us just use that basically for a well it's
you know handshake agreement basically he mows their lawn and they don't have to pay for mowing lawn themselves and then we get to use the propert where are we going to find that chunk of land for that and it's like right free everybody sees it when he go
it's on 25 it's like oh look at that so you guys are all coming to city council then right absolutely i really feel like they need to hear all this because i i do believe like the city council that's why i was like "oh shoot i want to talk about this." but right no i i and and
that's you know i think it's a fair question we've done that with other stuff absolutely well we we talked about it with the pavilion last time where it was there was some you know wanted to make sure this is what we wanted to do yep well i even said at city council i said to his comment i said "well i'd
like to see that other list." and here it is thank you of of things that are pressing you know and seeing these things some of these things have been on the list since good
gracious you know 2007 or eight when i started on here or getting doesn't mean we can't start planning for some of these other things because the other things are going to require time right and every year these things have been moved around and
shifted from year to year to year what makes more sense now than it did back then what we've taken stuff off what doesn't make sense the timing and everything just seems really right for the disc golf in my opinion i think you can't you can't say no when when the
school's willing to partner with us like that what do you think new new park board member um i definitely think it's a good idea i mean yeah older kids and adults and yeah if the school's going to let us
use it then i think that it would be a good addition for sure where what town has is closest to us that has a disc golf course is there one water town has one college yeah there a
handful around us but this adds another dis golf players like to go to different courses because if they just play the same one over and over again it gets boring i like golfers yeah they like to have their choices and mosy around and this will be another one that gets put
in the rotation and hopefully one day we have like i said have tournaments here qualifiers for other things that's what we're designing the standard to yeah i mean you know school uses it that's the thing is the biggest thing is you're designing it to have tournaments you're
not just willingly throwing it out there throwing it out there come too and speak on his knowledge on it too and how it's being i mean to show how i mean to me it's so well planned out it's the group did an excellent job
yeah they've got i know that the guys have gone out there and they've thrown it they've changed it they've thrown it they've changed it again they've gone out and thrown it they've they've i mean they've worked hard on this and i budget from one of the major disc golf
companies they have sent over a former professional disc golfer to look at our course walk it with us so there's been quite a bit of thought put into it it's just not slap down here this works right yeah i think that should all be presented it's been professionally
reviewed mhm was this something like obviously you have to get the funding but was this something you hopefully wanted to start right away or is this something like what you did with the splash pad when the park board came to the city festival
and you asked people's opinions on what they wanted like just to put feelers out for we talked about doing that actually so my counter to this is nobody seems to push back when we say pickle ball why
right exactly nobody asked for the word is everywhere nobody asked for feelers on pickle ball and now disc golf as up there number one number two recreation sport is suddenly under the microscope and like i say we've had a lot why that and not pickle ball and it's not like we
don't have another one like we've got the baseball fields we've got soccer we've got ice rink well potential ice rink we've got and that's 300 grand to make that very um we've got the basketball and all these other things
this is one more outdoor thing and we're still doing the pickle ball in the ex right we're going to stripe them but we did talk about having it at the festival that you do too is um having a little booth with yeah we had you know i
called them frisbees but was quickly was quickly correct corrected discs i probably would have called them a frisbee they probably would be frisbees at the the festival but yeah but yeah having my own experience done one of these
projects before and witnessed how popular it was and i know it's still as popular as it has ever been if not more uh i know it'll be good i think a lot of the stuff being bringing people to town i mean that that's all good stuff but in
my mind the primary is and we probably all feel it this is going to be great for our own residents for our community i i agree just for mayor as a whole i think everything else is icing and cherries on top yep
try something new that they haven't tried because it's right in your backyard well and maybe then you'll need the bike racks because people will be st stopping that's right putting their bike somewhere that is right a motion or i don't i don't yeah so what is it that we
need a motion i don't think we need a motion is there something to motion there's nothing to motion um i guess i want to make sure the board's wishes and desires to see this done are expressed i think we're reiterating our support for
the project and we'd love to come talk to council about it if they if they'd like to hear it and reaffirming that it's the right time but at the same time so we need to be there jason or whoever needs to be there and then if we could
have a mockup plaque there to show what it would look for the sponsorship so that way we're all you know we get this done in a more quick expedited as soon as we can i'm kidding but next council meeting
will be the one or the one after that days from now so i was going to say maybe in on monday yeah so the one after yes oh this coming monday yeah the one after that i mean i'll be there but unless you want it we're whoa
all of a sudden gone ho oh we can wait three weeks no i'm just saying i mean i i don't know if we can get everything pulled together i'm thinking that's going to plan for monday okay and i will work on getting that mockup tag board put it on a tag
board yeah yep you know your 3x4 2 by3 whatever we're thinking are we thinking what size are you thinking up on an easel well i can send this out too yeah i would do that in fact that
better than what we saw the last council meeting because it it's even more if you want to reach out to jason or if you want me to reach out to jason whatever i mean i've got i've got a text message group with the okay yeah yeah so please inform them and and get them all on board and yeah i think we really need to
um reiterate the timing especially because you guys saw this one yep that was the original plan and see that's what we saw yep that's what you saw uh this one was as of the the 31st post that council meeting what's the dark red line oh yeah so the red line is a
snowmobile trail oh okay the purple line is a walking path throughout the course that also incorporates the cross country nice path what's the dotted blue line dotted blue lines are the walking paths between holes that's what i thought okay the cross country is that open to the
does not use that field for soccer anymore no not really that's what that big rectangle is yep yeah and she doesn't know that they offered it to us or to let us use it as long as we mow it that was it essentially we we mowed the soccer field and they'll let us because this is all their property and there was
something if they they have a certain amount of period yeah that there's a six-month period that if let's say somebody comes in and they want to develop that property sure they have to give us six months notice and then we just tear everything out sure no so really there weren't a lot of stipulations other than that it's not
like we're purchasing the land we're not doing you know so then we're just out concrete per se we still have the baskets we have the stuff when we can move it somewhere else right right so i mean we got to look at that too i mean [Music] okay but realistically what are the odds
of this developing right it's going to be we got a lot of other area that's ready to go kind of prepped and ready for development as well whether or not the school does something but yeah that's going to be long term i think the school they would have said something if they had something on the books i'm sure
yeah right now but i'm saying like 10 15 years yeah well if this lasts 1015 years i think paid for itself it's like three times and it's good for the school i mean you've got one of these right next to crown college it's good for the school yep it just is yeah instead of
see the kids hanging out in school they can just walk out and do a few holes and come back to school right they can do open hours and stuff like that yeah yeah they got open hour you know lunch hour and different things they have blocked normally at 6:30 too monday nights
they're mayor nights yeah uh council monday 6:30 okay all right monday night splash pad let's plan on it uh splash pad update much shorter uh next two three weeks they should be back to do concrete they pressure tested
the lines last week uh they found a couple of small leaks those have been repaired uh this i think next week they will be back to doing the back filling on some of the areas okay getting that all graded up two three weeks concrete install it once that's so once that's
done installation of features they'll be working on the equipment room getting all that wired up um the the plans are at the department of health they've been approved we just need to line up inspection once it's all done okay so that's all good raring to go then our
plan is the trail was approved uh all segments were approved to be constructed okay the idea is we're going to try to align that to come in right at it's going to piggy back right off the end of the splash pad so splash pad's done concrete poured trail start
going in as soon as that's done we're hydro seating the whole area good so by festival it's hopefully beautiful when is the splash hydro fertilizer is green anyway they have a tenative opening for
june should be done in may so we have a uh uh grand opening is june 7th june 7th okay we'll likely be open before that but the grand opening will be june 7th awesome is the plan for that and then the trail and seating should be ready by
july 12th oh seating is part of the splash pad okay so that's being installed with the splash pad okay trail should be piggybacking right on we're going to try to align that as best as possible engineer and i spoke yesterday we're learning trying to line up the
pre-construction meeting with the company to make sure we have everything in play on that yeah so keep your people off our lawn we'll likely have snow fence around because the grass won't be established yet we're going to have snow fence around to keep the kids from running out back in so they're hydro
seating up by the pavilion the new pavilion okay get grass established right now out front we have a bunch of rock and gravel yeah beyond the asphalt all that's coming out we're putting it in a black dirt hydro seeding that okay we'll make decisions on future
parking in the future that'll be great oh then we have to plant some trees too yep cool it's going to be beautiful mhm they would have looked over it's been a long time coming that's the splash pad update easy one
there okay next music in the park music in the park yeah but where we where are we at with that uh we're just starting the talks okay that's what i i don't remember talking about this well
we had talked about making sure mike was available and we had talked about we like to get so this is in september i don't know if we wanted to change that date at all i know there was talks about potentially changing it but fire department 125th is on september 20th uh
music in the park would normally land on september 27th this year that saturday so it' be a week after the 125th can't go any further than that it potentially get pretty cold after that we had one year where it was like 90
something degrees and oh it was un yeah we've had two years that were pretty but it was it was a lot better having it in the pavilion area this last year so last year we had michael handler as the music uh lions did food baseball club was
there cookie store we had an ice cream truck last minute which was awesome uh what else did we have do we have anything else the horse the horses pony rides for food the pony rides pony rides aren't food no they're not i mean some
countries but somebody needs dinner uh for entertainment we had pony rides we had bounce houses we had archery range those three things those three things seem to go over really well that was good size i don't know how much
bigger we actually want to make things that seemed good that sounds pretty good to me yeah it was a good turnout last year unless there major changes i'll start lining all of that up once again if anybody thinks of anything feel free to shoot an email on it this would be a
great idea for food option or an entertainment so baseball club we no longer have grimshaw we don't we don't have insurance for liquor because we don't have a team to provide liquor for so drop the ball um so we may need
to look for another option if we are looking to have somebody provide gotcha adult beverages can one of the bars in town like do it unless they have a cater if they have a caterer's license yes yes
so um that would be do either of them have it knuckleheads does oh well no knuckleheads does not sorry but we're they can serve up at the community center the way state law works we're
allowed to authorize them up at the community center but not anywhere else it's only 100 ft that way isn't it part of the community center off the corn we can set them up right what if we have like a little paperier-mâché tunnel like
and doesn't do catering yes he does hel does oh so they could health could okay helps does what do they cater does he don't have any food he does events up here he just did um what was your not not uh
not the fish fry but before that was a big thing um not gun club it was something bango he catered for well yeah mike do they don't have a kitchen there do they
no they bring it in warmers oh okay hey we have a kitchen but it's not a commercial kitchen no no i mean hel doesn't have a kitchen no doesn't have a kitchen can we get that's what i was wondering they serve pizza i was going to say they like they have frozen pizza maybe they just bring in pizzas like he
caters i hear i'm not asking questions i guess then well i mean could we ask if they'd be interested in it's possible what i don't who knows what her plan is with the mexican if they're going to do any catering or not either well we talked about they haven't indicated they're going to do catering but if they
are great but i haven't heard anything on that front i think they're just still getting their feet under them okay with what they're doing so far so september 27th that would be the date michael handler for music again or he
was good yeah he's he's great um and then back to the cip yeah i don't know if we need any other stuff for for food or i mean if anybody knows anybody with a food truck that would maybe want to be invited or there are a lot of food
trucks around here now but right and like i mean i'm sure you've been in contact with a lot right no not you oh everybody we tend to use well we use the lions and we use the fire department mainly and
then we try and bring in like one other food truck because we want the lions and the fire department to be able to they just pay us 10% of what they bring in and they get to keep the rest i got you so cuz like elephant joe's has been
elephant joe's does come yes um and then we had um the mexican taco truck that sets up a colony can he just show up yeah yeah yeah there was there was a
little bit of a misunderstanding um and then there's the um that the is it the guda one that always goes up to maryland's room guda q yeah i yep i've never spoken with them um sweet winks though we want someone local um he's
associated with mayor lutheran so and i'm fine with just sticking with maybe a dessert truck or two like we have and then letting lions serve hot dogs or whatever burgers whatever they decide to serve i'm i'm perfectly fine with that too i don't know if you keep it simple
right yeah i'm just throwing out ideas i mean if there's an influx of another 100 people plus and there's lines everywhere then we'll discuss it next year and go "all right we need to get another couple." good idea yeah let's let's let
them make their so good yay all right capital improvement plan cip pretty much gone through that already we kind of have so every year as part of our cip planning process we do it for all the uh other
major funds that the city has um this is what we've got in the listing so far if anybody has any ideas jot them down on the back we can this is a living document this is our document we don't pay consultants to put this together for us so this lives and breathes and grows
and shrinks as we want it to to suit the needs of our community uh we've got it split up into the departments which are by parks um that's what we've got listed for anything there everything there i've got costs associated with most of those things was able to pull a lot of that
together but then it's rank ordering what we feel the highest priorities are so it doesn't need to be we don't need to rank order necessarily right now but giving it a piece of paper take it home that's nice start scribbling on it
so you can see up on on here there's uh some shaded in lines um it cost money to print in color and i simply didn't deem this worthy enough to spend money on so um how this looks actually you have the
gray one the gray up top is actually yellow highlighted i have those grouped together as far as notes because that's more of the trail reconstruction the paving because we're potentially looking at a 2030 street project so critical mass you already have people with
equipment in town doing that sort of work it might make sense to wrap that in as part of those projects just trying to think into the future uh the bottom one is the os old schoolhouse park baseball field improvements and rehab since the baseball team is no longer uh in in form
or function that probably dropping off the list or much lower what was that if you build it right right yeah if we build it somebody may get them to come i don't know
um is there any safety concerns with the dugouts and stuff like that though like currently yeah currently they're questionable i mean like i mean they are questionable like they would collapse or something or i don't i don't think
they're that bad off but i mean they're they're they're on the best issue yeah they're yeah so i mean in the next five years we should maybe i it probably is something that yeah dugouts probably should be looked at um you know depending on how much mayor lutheran or
or whatever baseball you know desires to use it i mean they're using it right now the field yeah the field could use some leveling yeah do they pay to use the field no you know so yeah the field could use
some leveling uh pitchers mound you know the infield stuff is is pretty you know it it needs it needs to be redone is there to do do it and phase it so if we did dugouts and did the field work
just do that for now i i think it would be a good playable field for for a lot of different things okay how costly is something like that dugouts and pitching mountains i don't know if i'd go with concrete dugouts again i kind of like what watertown did with theirs you know
and some of the other ones with the just a steel sided structure oh yeah you know they're cost effective they're easy to maintain um concrete can kind of you know that we all know how concrete can be especially when it's suspended
you know whatever um i don't know what do you what do you well i mean that way if we do metal we can put some color to it it's just not just a right concrete gray and kind of boring you know i mean but as far as
cost what would you kind of with with your experience roughly guess i mean look at 20 grand yeah 20 grand something like that between the two of them yeah and whether or not we did a seat plus removal unless we you know if you do a pole porn frame type of
thing well maybe we do we put a deck up there just as a you know and that and that's a question too i mean do we plan on for kids that there i don't know if it'd be annoying for the players or not someone being up there well no there's lots of lots of them that have decks
above their dugouts and i mean that's the new thing now is everybody's got a deck i think make it modular yeah modular yep start with the dugouts knowing that these dugouts are made potentially to y be expanded incorporated yeah for sure but but
you're saying that's not that's super pressing right now as of this moment i don't believe it is within five years we need to rethink and re prioritize the base project yes like 2030 timeline
something like that something yeah 30 30 to $50,000 for you know you know some rehab basically those are deteriorating unless all of a sudden we would have something that would look public works would be able to do the removals on it we've got the payloaders and whatnot
yeah so so i'm penciling in 50k for baseball rehab yeah inflation but it should be realistic i mean for me the biggest one on on on this list that i would like to see sooner
than later is some of the lighting in in some of the parks um i know westridge gets a lot of night use i don't know i i mean i know you would know that right and and and i know not
all of it is would that be annoying to have the light i is it plum for schedule 40 and just have to run wire to it or what there's nothing there oh nothing there so even if we just put like we could put a little solar thing in there and that's my
thing yeah just something to get something in there to kind of deter just the kids from yeah put an emotion like type of thing in there we could we could spend $300 and put something y like
agreed yeah yeah there's already people out there like i right and i know i mean i know that from what we found in the parks when we go to clean them and stuff i i know that there's people out there doing things that they probably shouldn't be doing if they're prince but
um you know do you want me to look talk to people or do you have talk of people or does kyle and that's something we could do in conjunction again it's not like this other one's going to eat up our the disc golf is not going to eat up our whole budget we got room right for
others there's not power really in that park at all is there runs behind it what's behind it power runs through the back the alleyway be oh between the park and your house and i believe power runs
through the back there between my backyard and the park oh no no dig where those arboritas are yes but well no it's probably in my in my in my yard my ar doesn't go as far as it looks like on either side so how much does it cost a
knife and your foot these days i don't even know what it cost to to do that and that's what i was wondering i can ask i know two people i can ask okay it's kind of pain to you just have to go under i mean you could you could under the trail yeah it wouldn't be that's not yeah
that's the least of our worries is is the trail it's trail yeah i like i say i i to me that that's a big one so that was lighting west you said yeah okay eric you go under the right part of that trail nobody noticed anyway yeah right that's what i was
thinking like especially over there is that find the crack and just um you know and we're always in need of bike racks um you know we've talked about benches at at the at the basketball courts we've
talked about like i say these things kind of they kind of move and and evolve as they can right um you know we we we had a lot of conversation a few years
back about bench donations and i think we've only had the one right you know somebody donating a bench for a park oh and i think i think the only one that i know of is the one that was donated for chucky island up there um i you know so
what do we do we put that i mean right and there again i mean is that something that we try and and put more emphasis on to to take some of these the benches and stuff off of you know uh off the list um next flyer advertise it and i mean it
one of those things you put in the flyer every month and get one or two a year maybe i don't know so like i say a lot of this stuff i feel just kind of it just kind of bends and flows as as as
we see that we have the money or or we see that there's a need for it i believe that then we kind of go to put it in but yeah you kind of have to like separate out like all right where are what are our big projects right well i see that dog park then you just spread out the
rest of them when you're talking about a big project i see the dog park and i know you kind of mentioned that when i first came on and i'm is there a huge i mean i have three dogs i don't need a dog park is there a huge demand for it i don't know we there again that was
something that somebody brought up years ago that that hey maybe we should you know think about putting a dog park in okay where do we put it and we've gone over and over meadow to westridge to i mean we've tried to come up with
locations there's just no real good place for a dog park i think well that's why we were thinking about the river spot right yeah we talked about you know potentially potentially if if you know if that worked out so so again it's not something that's
pressing was my point it's just kind of a thought right it's it's a that's where we want you to rank order this stuff everybody feels dog park it's like it's the low priority but maybe one day when it makes sense yeah to me a new park in cold water would be make more sense because we don't have a park over there
but then again we're not lacking of parks in the city either do you know so but cold water i was promised one when i moved in when the market crashed and you know 18 years ago and they never put one in so so we did just fine didn't go
forward just fine with no work for park park and cold water to touch on that real quick this is the ninth though will be the ninth edition eighth is right over here you can see kind of the pre-graded that'll go there y i think
right here is where the park should go kind of an entrance to that neighborhood from that side see and initially i think they talked that it was going to be over by the man-made lake that they talked about and then they kind of drained that and
i don't know what happened to that but it's over by nasis they were going to have a man-made lake and i was going to say all those are man-made lakes we dug all those i know but that's why well so when we moved in we were the only like the gravel yeah it
was more water back there we swam in all those ponds they said it was going to be like a swimming one with no it could have been just a developer trying to get us to buy the that could have been that's exactly what it was but he said there was going to be a park over there
is what he said but i see what you're saying i mean there it's all grown up now so it would make more sense to have it there this is a good distance between parks vertically it's in that heart and then this land that's developable this
is developable you get out in here it's developable still before you hit flood plane and some wetlands but there's still plenty of land this way that could still be cold water um it could be so you're probably looking at a park well
jude's park would be nice jude's park here jude's good proximity between these two as that is too right i've seen some really creative uses um of low-lying areas whether it be flood plane or sometimes you have like storm water
ponds that are just dry and you just use their you have them set up as uh like fields like you could play you know football or catch out there or whatever and then when it floods it floods and then when it drains it's you can use it again but again a future park that's
$200,000 plus but so those end up be so how does educate me um with these developments going in like they pay park dedication fees like when they develop or when they plat or how does that how
does that work part of the platting process when they start the the whole the the pl the pre-plat process there are park dedication fees so they have the option of building the park or paying a dollar amount instead of putting in a park sure so if they if
they they're like "all right we have this they that's currently platted as an outlot i'm assuming right now." so when they come and they draw up all where the homes are going to go and the street and all that they come back to the city and they want to plat it and they if they come with no park drawn up they pay park
dedication fees or we tell them you're doing a park or we're not approving your plat yes we ultimately have the control so if they paid park dedication fees does that big chunk of money just show up in the park fund like how does that work i don't know because i don't know when
the last time a park dedication fee was paid yeah they just i don't know if we've ever gotten those fees i don't put in the park don't know or or you know or the city ate them i think i it might have just went to
general i i don't know well that's junk if it happens i mean i think it was also a time when cip wasn't really had we weren't funding it like we are now now we're i'm hoping i'm not speaking too
early before city council here but my okay i'll phrase my recommendation for 2026 is that we go up to 100,000 a year for park in cip because we right there right get some good stuff done
absolutely it's been it was 50 for a while 75 this year was bumped up because they're uh balancing the budget on that but i think going up to 100 would be good just from my perspective seeing all the funds and how the tax rates are
moving and all that that 30,000 foot view 100,000 makes sense especially with what we're looking at for doing and if the day comes you know five 10 years down the road where the park is do parks are doing great we really don't have that many projects things are going great well you tone
down the cip then the amount you give to parks the idea is you have this planning document that helps guide you on that whole thing so you're not overfunded or underfunded you're doing what you need to do when the appropriate times to do it i see a playground equipment replacement on here is there
equipment out there that's really needing that how how high is metal the next one that playground equipment itself generally lasts 15 to 20 years right and i think meadow is on the before you rip it out and replace it well that's what i'm
asking is there a park that is like i said i think meadow is on the on the verge of that i've got oh i have no i have those does it say it on here west ridge playground equipment replacement that's going to be in 2034 here here you are
yeah sorry on the far right side i've got other notes cost expected life year to replace 203 okay so that one was just replaced yeah because i pulled the installation dates on all the existing equipment so the reason park doesn't have it oh yep yep
there it is 23 take us back just for one second the reason i asked that line on the park dedication and all that we have a line item here for the future park to be determined you know 200 grand like i don't think i guess i don't think we need to plan for that if if we're
assuming that it's either getting put in with the future development or we get money from a development coming in where then we would build another park so does the developer then get to pick what they put in no okay we'll tell them what to
put in works now it's not going to be the taj mahal of parks because if you make it too expensive they go "well the development can't bear that we're not paying that right?" and then that's where you make that's where the city could then come in and say "all right well you you put this in and then we're going to add this or whatever if we
wanted to i suppose." but i make it a reasonable park you know standard playground equipment wood chips i'm not going to do poured in place rubber because that's insanely expensive oh that is insane it's expensive
um just do standard park in there have them build it and then they turn that over to the city they'll carve out that parcel they'll put it all in they'll make sure it's up to snuff and then they gift it to the city as part of the and that's written into the development agreements and all the legal
documents i guess what i'm looking at too is just and i know it keeps kind of going back to the disc golf thing but i want to kind of show them yeah hey we looked over this and there's nothing that that should be over it that should
be ahead of it that's more pressing right or that's more um worth and we're not at we're not at a position where that's the only thing that we can do this that's what i was asking him earlier i mean we still have budget right if it was if it was
$200,000 that'd be a different it'd be another i mean we're looking you know what are we looking 10 15,000 somewhere in there 20,000 i saw for the dis golf that was 20 was the line but was that before or after the donations so total
26ish okay on that i have some trash cans in there but right on that whole sponsorship i'm figuring we have 19 but i'm figuring 17 i have a couple thoughts in my head about ones we want to gift okay i
special organizations and people who have contributed greatly to the project that are deserving of recognition through a whole sponsorship have a couple thoughts in my head about that so you sell 17 i just went with the thousand model well that's 17 grand right there and you're talking about so
we're talking we're 10 10 grand possibly that's yeah looking at this list and and what do we have in our bank right now yeah i was going to pull up mine but i did bring my laptop that would be the only other thing maybe
that to have uh as a point of you know i'll get that spreadsheet for the yeah exactly like you've you've provided you've prepared basically our we had the budget of our we had the budget presented at city council and i just got to remember where i put
this we were under here it's in the last email is it i don't have email on this particular laptop security airgapped security security you're probably going to find it by the time i get this out aren't you yeah yeah i will oh it's going to be under cip that's
where i had it got it there it is see i'm just putting pressure on you thank you so this is my park fund uh tracking since when i started we had we had pavilion we had splash pad we had all this going on and i need to reconcile a lot of the accounts because we're
getting the grant money and what have you so this is our current fund balance as of 228 some of these other items you will see notes accounted for that's why you see zeros in there because they're already included in the fund balance okay um we have the second uh splash pad
payment of 247 248 uh the old school house trail reconstruction at 95 96,000 some just general miscellaneous expense miscellaneous expenses contingencies because projects are going to have them
uh helping balance out so running deficit once that's all done dnr outdoor recreation grant for 314,000 shores that up a bit more park cip of 95,143 shores it up a bit more we have disc golf course i got at 26 without
donations however if we get donate all the donations that well depending what we get annual versus the one time so i just throw full cost in there outdoor pickle ball court conversions it will not be that much because we're just striping lines right we're just and yeah
should be low thousands to get that done but i like to budget conservatively so it'll be over than under yep and we're still under mhm that's what i was saying we had alliance club donation uh that was for the picnic tables and then we
had the baseball club donation that is for the trees that will go in that's kind of part of this 20 grand miscellaneous your gloves right so you can see there's still a deficit here and when this whole thing kicked off a couple of years ago i presented to
council there will be this deficit and the plan was from our 435 general capital projects fund that's doing well so we would transfer funds out of the 435 into the park fund to balance out the difference and that figure i always
had pegged from the get-go around 125 to 130 nice job see so we're under so we're landing around there but should be under considering the smaller pickle ball and we get we
get this turns to 10 this turns to three not using all the 20,000 potentially it looks better so is there consternation on the council for that transfer no is that where the question on i think mayor was just um
like oh whoa we're jumping into another project i think he just was in my opinion just like okay are we sure we don't have anything else that's super pressing sure right i mean it just seemed like i mean and for me coming in it was like oh boom splash pad boom pickle ball so if anybody were to say
we're jumping in it would have been me but i mean i think it's really good to see this and show this to the city council to say "no i mean other things can still be done there's still room for other things and we're not even going to use up the whole budget to take to do this." i mean to me it's a
no-brainer honestly you're adding a huge thing to the city at minimal cost i take some of the blame because i'm a gas go 100 miles an hour on projects and when it came to the disc golf i just repeated the process that i had success with and can be i remember when i came you were
like "yep done that before let's go." that's what i mean i knew how to do this project why sit on a project that's what the confidence is is well you've done it before and you've had good success why and it's a smaller town than here so i mean why wouldn't and we're close to the city so i mean
well and i've never even played it and i was like that sounds good right you know i mean it sounds like visually it even adds something to the city in my opinion i think disco golf courses are pretty you talk about of can be the closest town of any reasonable size can be was
1800 marshall was the closest one was marshall that was 25 miles away so and it was considered close right i think people like to see things being done yeah so and and to have these added
in and you know because people are a little indifferent about dollar general but to have some things that are pretty and functional and open i mean you got splash pad that's got to be open up to all the little kids i mean we really got a lot of stuff going for us in our
little town in my opinion yeah i mean i think we're moving pretty good and and this will just yeah okay so uh goal is to your homework is take this home frank it you have your column with your name up here fill in the
numbers one to 10 one to five one being the lowest high being the five did you send out a spreadsheet version of this uh the last time the last time so paper might be a little bit easier so number one would be like our most important to us no you want it the other way around
says at the top five is highest says at the top you did that last right and i think you ranked every time it's like highest priority so beyond so it would points the light in the gazebo was one of your the top ones right the light not the trail lighting no the light the the
gazebo lighting so yeah if you'll get 10 if you think a park bench in westridge park is the greatest thing since sliced bread give it a five okay if you think it's an awful idea and that it has way too many park benches already give it a one and did you notice that like there's your own column right here i saw that i
saw my name went on woohoo i didn't even see my name up there when you said name i'm like what you're not ranking yourself i have to do something okay all right uh any other discussion on cip
i don't believe i have any more for you okay uh any other commissioner reports anybody get anything that you need to bring to the table and then uh welcome again to our new member we're excited to have you here thank you and uh i think
you got a better welcome than either going on around here council me um with that i'll look to for a motion to adjurnn so moved second all in favor i i
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