me everyone Uh I will start by reading the remote script tonight Uh so as a preliminary matter this is Jillian Prenast I am the chair of the Maynard Finance Committee meet Um please permit me to confirm that all members and
persons anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me Fin members when I call your name please respond in the affirmative Uh Nathan yes Linda yes Male
Yes Daniel I saw come off mute so I think you can hear us All right Well we can't hear you right now so I'm gonna We'll We'll circle back Uh Katie can you hear us yes Yes Oh and we can hear you now Nathaniel
Thanks Sorry mic keeps changing its settings That's okay I was having similar problems earlier too I think it's Zoom All right Uh I don't currently see Peter Um but we'll give him a couple more minutes Um we do not have any special
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tonight Um and I see Peter has dialed in from uh the committee Can you hear us okay Uh yes I can Sorry I was late No worries Um excellent So we have checked in for
everybody here I am just making the other members of the FinCom co-host on Zoom Okay Um so we've gone through all
of the paperwork tonight so we can jump in to the topics for the evening Um so our first topic is um touching base on the April 8th town hall meeting So just a debrief and a discussion So I did
circulate uh the files that were shared there um from the town and also from the schools Uh and I just wanted to have this on the agenda in case there were key items we would like to touch base on there Um I can sort of kick you off So
my understanding from that meeting is that the select board is considering potential changes to employee benefit plans uh in their closed executive session tomorrow Um which may or may not impact the budget uh depending on how
that goes Um so we won't know until after their meeting tomorrow Um and I think after their meeting tomorrow we'll also have an idea on uh the variable which is the school's uh potential override and what that might
look like Uh so the feeling that I got as one person from uh witnessing that call was that you know I think they're open to a number but I'm not exactly sure that they're on board with the the full request from the schools the the
1.2 million or so Um but I don't know what that's going to look like And um I think those were those are sort of two of the key takeaways I had I don't know if anyone other member would like to weigh in on those topics or otherwise
on the meeting Um just a comment on your comment Joe Um I got the feeling the idea of you know employee benefit changes would result in changes down the road but unlikely for FY26
Do you think I'm wrong or do does anybody else remember that i as one person I'm not entirely sure um if that would come into play for this budget cycle um because I'm not sure
what the contractual obligations are Yeah But I think it was something they were discussing So Okay I have other comments but other people may want to go I I'll just Can I chime in i'll just say
I listened in Um I thought there was several people who had very elo that were senior residents of Maine who have very eloquent testimony about the tax burden And I wouldn't think that an override is a slam dunk I mean I I don't know how how it'll come out but there
was a lot of push I a lot of push back and I didn't hear anyone from representing like parents of the schools or anything talking like talking up an override So I think that's something we might need to consider that for the
budget that it might not be a slam dunk Um I was very unclear on what the trash proposal is and maybe maybe maybe the select board has to um clarify that I'm I'm was really not sure if that's coming out of
um our reserve funding if there's trash sticker increases That was pretty unclear Um and the other thing that just kind of stuck to me is in in Superintendent Hos's uh presentation a few times he said "We
have things that no other town has." As if we have extra things Um and I just wonder you know I just wonder about how that's going to sell if if they're going to go for an override So that was my takeaway
Um can I answer on the trash thing mhm So I don't have the exact numbers but they're considering the idea of So there's a you know roughly $500,000 hole for the trash cost minus
stickers Um you know I roughly something like 200,000 out of free cash and 300,000 out of stabilization But I think they were also saying well we could also just double the cost of trash stickers And I'm not sure the the
proposal is final yet Yeah that was my sense It was was not particularly clear Yeah Yeah And I believe that's because they're waiting to see how snow and ice the final number shakes out because then they'll know how much space there is in
free cash But I think it'll probably be a combination between free cashache and stabilization And the backup plan is changing sticker prices is my understanding Yeah I echo what you said Linda about the general audience being concerned about a tax
increase Yeah And you know how it would affect people being able to stay in Maynard Um and also the lack of people supporting the schools there saying we really need this I was a little surprised at that Yeah
Too Yeah Yeah Did any Did everybody else at least see it or hear it at some point um and does it I have to say listening to that and there were a couple of pretty eloquent statements
and I don't know I personally am having some reservations about the idea of 1.1 million all of a sudden And I thought I I totally back and forth on it I can't say that I'm crystal clear in my thinking
Um one thing I was considering though I think the I don't know if if the select if we had a number we thought we could get behind I think the select board would be
interested you know if if somehow we thought 700 or is it you know let the select board figure it out and then we'll just react to their proposal which you know is the form we operate under
But if other people were having reservations about the 1.1 million to the point that we might not recommend it I think the select board would like to hear that Uh we don't have to but um I think they're going to decide
tomorrow night Um so anyway I'm just curious what people were thinking and yeah I think for me it I'm generally in support of I'm generally in support
of on the one hand it sounds awful that like 11 people are going to lose jobs That's like 4% of the school Like that's that's bad And for like me personally paying $300 more in my taxes to save like you know 11 jobs in the school system that that kind of makes sense to
me That doesn't that's not a calculation that makes sense for everybody in town And hearing some like personal stories uh made me feel very conflicted about you know people who lived in Maynard all their lives having to um like thinking about like having to leave That's that's
a tough thing to hear about Um I would feel a lot better about it if the school's presentation was a little bit more like hey we've been drawing down our reserve funds Um we we are like in the red and this is going to get us to
like a stable place so that we can like you know pay our teacher contracts that we've already negotiated um and we'll be set for the next few years I'm more apprehensive when I hear about like we're we're pinched for cash and our
contracts are growing at like 3% and our budget's only going at 2 and a half% and also we want to hire more people We want to hire like an athletic trainer that um I I I don't like hearing about that as much um a procedural question I guess which
um I suspect that uh the answer to this is no but am I correct in thing that at town meeting is there like any way where if like the town meeting decides that they don't want to pass like the full amount of an override is there like any sort of room for like reductions or
passing an amount for an override that's like not the requested amount or is it sort of one figure and that's it um as far as that goes I think for this it's a challenge challenge because it's not only an annual town meeting article at the
meeting It's also a ballot question right so I know that you can make motions on the floor to change articles but I'm not sure if it's linked to a ballot question how that would work So obviously I think the ballot will be after the annual town meeting
So maybe that's something that has flexibility that they can change on the ballot Um but well that's a good question The other way answer well no and I think you raised the correct issue but I think one of your questions may
have been Nquille you know if it fails can we then you know have another vote for only 700,000 um and I think the answer there would be no Gotcha um that you couldn't you know have it having failed you couldn't immediately have a new motion for a
smaller amount you can amend it before we vote on it subject to the stuff Jill mentioned that I don't know how that interacts with the ballot but thank you Peter that's a good explanation thanks okay
um it looks like we have uh if we go in I'm doing the zoom right we have a a question from a citizen here you have uh some input can you manish good evening everyone man sharma I'm a
parliament inquiry if I'm allowed to ask I'm a business owner in the community name of the business is sbury espresso so listening to the uh superintendent's you know presentation last week I had couple of observations the superintendent did not um point to
any and all changes in the invoices which are occurring within the food uh invoices from the food vendor Uh I own a restaurant in the community and I basically would like to um present an observation where you know the pricing there's price gouging going on and so
there was any constraints factors available for taxpayers to get you know any recourse on any amount which is assessed on the invoices The other question I had was uh with construction of the building of school which I understand is going to be taking place
There was no mention about materials cost uh which basically is a variable you know uh component in the construction business U it varies u as per the market changes and there was also no mention about replacement warranty or service
level agreement occurring place So let's say something breaks down after the building is constructed Uh would there be additional taxes borne by businesses and taxpayers in the community so I just want to present that And the last comment I had was we have quite a lot of immigrants moving into the community and
in the neighborhood So each of the immigrants should be having a TIN number which is a temporary identification number And if there is uh federal funding available that could be brought to the table to help adjust for the gaps and I understand this this is always a economic uh question of supply and
demand you know and demand is more supply is less So we got to work with them the rational So could anybody highlight any of these mood points that I that I viewed and how would it help us business owners you know think about longevity in terms of being retained in
our spaces versus you know packing up with given the economic climate we have Appreciate the accommodations Thank you Yeah thank you um for uh participating in our meeting Uh I'm not sure that I will as one member have all the answers for these questions that you have
tonight Um I think basically one of the things uh that's important to know about how um the school funds work is a certain amount is allocated by the town Uh and then the school committee and the school uh superintendent and the groups there decide how that money is spent Um
so I think as a finance committee we won't have as much insight there Um but you may wish to attend um like a school committee meeting and ask some of those questions So I think that's uh one of the things the first one about uh different contracting prices maybe Uh
and I know we also do have a representative here from the school committee Natasha who I'll let you go next Um so uh I do see your hand raised so I did want to acknowledge that And uh so I think the second question was about the
contracting for building the new school Um so that is something that did go through a bidding process Um and it is also partially supported by see if I get the acronym right I'm going to mix it up with something else but it's uh the Massachusetts not MWR I guess the water
one MSBA Okay Thank you I knew it was something Yeah MS Yeah MSBA they have the Green Meadow um they have a committee a specific committee that that in a project manager that that oversees all of that Yeah Yeah So um there is a
dedicated committee to that and they can uh and on the website they have the very nice details on this building process um and all of the different parts of that process So that might uh actually have some of the the answer the answers to the questions you have on that topic Uh
which I'm not exactly sure off the top of my head for those Um that is something I would have to look and get back to you on Jill I might be able to answer some of the other questions um a little bit if that's helpful Uh I if I I can interject right before
you Natasha Um yeah it it did come up the subject of construction materials for the new Green Meadow School um during the town hall meeting And I I believe what Greg said was the uh the town administrator said was that it's all it was all part of the bid that the
construction company did Um so like they're they are held to the quote that they gave the town Um and it's the fluctuations in like the prices of like uh commodities or or labor are not going to affect the overall cost of the
project to the town And um because uh MSBA and like the state are funding part of the a large part of the construction Um there's like a lot of uh you know there there'd be like a lot of political
pressure on them if they wanted to try to change anything um after we've already like accepted everything So that's it Go ahead Natasha No that's okay Jill is it is it okay if I just I have the what service I might be able to um Yeah So just to piggyback
first on what what um Nathan was mentioning there is um anyone who goes to the school's website under projects will see a specific tab that's dedicated to the Remem school And part of also what Greg was indicating was that he was
going to work with the project manager make sure that the requested information was updated or posted there to the site for public access as well Um and then just to echo also what Nathan said like the state is a partner uh a financial a fiduciary partner in this project So
they have a lot of prescribed requirements um in order for us to have access to their funding and a lot of oversight So they also have to approve everything that the town does independently So it's kind of like a double a two-step approval um to make
sure that it it conforms with their requirements as well Um then for the food yeah right there if you go into like project documents there's some things there There's some FAQs Um there's a whole bunch of
different things that might be accessible And I think this is where uh the project manager Phil Palumbo often adds into the into the different folders information So um but Greg I think
because Greg's also on that committee he's going to confirm that the particular construction aspects that were asked are included Um the food service question I can say because this is a recent so the
food service contract goes up to bid approximately um every one to up to six years at the most Um we just approved a contract because there is a requirement to put an R um an RFP um out and we only had one
vendor to submit a bid for that contract The that bid was for uh Witson who is our current vendor last the last time the contract or the was put out for bid there was two vendors that um submitted
uh proposals and it was Witson's and Fresh Pickics but in that in that time frame Witson's actually bought out their competitor Fresh Pix so that's where yeah I was very much not pleased with the lack of um competition that that was
afforded our or us as a community Um but even with having one bid I guess the criteria that the state dictates when it comes to food service contracts for the schools is that they have to demonstrate reliability and response and there's very there's like some
definition of what that means within their their proposal So uh the school committee um approved the contract that was already um reviewed by a subcommittee the proposal and uh recommendation And so it will be
continuing on with Witson's um for three more years and this was this approval was uh just maybe in the past two weeks where these conversations kind of evolved So we are also the school
committee has um spoken about maybe having a subcommittee during you know with the students and with parents um maybe next year because we've gotten some feedback and we want to make sure that um the lack of competition doesn't
result in subpar service Um so that's something that we will it's you know highly um we're highly aware of on our radar I did also have I don't know if there's any questions about that piece um for anyone before I did have something about the override to update
the finance committee on as well but I wanted to Yeah I would say I let's um let's take any additional questions or comments about maybe the the April 8th meeting and then we can our next topic is the the ATM
Did any pincom members have any additional input or otherwise for the April 8th meeting the town hall meeting um well it's it's kind of tied to that So that's where I would um because the school committee met this Thursday So um
there's a new recommendation Okay I don't think I've seen new yet but is Nate Nathan are you trying to comment yeah I I just I would
I'm I I I think we should be doing whatever we can to advertise um any programs for like relief to like resources with property tax if that's something that people in the community are like struggling with any any aid to
seniors Um I you know there's a couple things in the uh a couple articles um for this town meeting about like expanding the uh like the volunteer hours like program Um just I I I think the town should be the select board
should be pursuing like any means to you know give taxpayers like flexibility um that they possibly can Okay Yeah I I would certainly say I agree with that Um this was I think mentioned by maybe one of maybe like a
citizen sponsor at a previous meeting I don't remember who exactly but do we have um is there or maybe this is something different than what they were asking but do we have like data on how often the existing exemptions are getting used like I'm sure the assessor's office has those records Is that something that we
be able to to get our hands on pretty easily or just by like having them email us or something like that uh I'm not sure What I asked Greg about was if how often these are programs are updated to sort of updated Okay Changes
of uh cost in living right uh and that's something that I did not yet get feedback on It might be just good to have on hand sort of I guess that separate question then of just how often are they being applied for and granted and used and all that sort of thing as
well Okay All right Um Yeah Okay Natasha you said that you have uh an update to share with us on the potential override Yes Um if this is a okay time So um just
I think like like you all were were doing the school committee between after t after Tuesday's session public forum um you know kind of we received feedback
you know evaluated what we heard and um and on Thursday when we met we had quite a bit of deliberation Um I think the higher theme that everyone felt is for one we felt like it's very rushed right
like this between having the meeting and then needing to make any pivots and then you know you know being having ready for the the select board to be able to vote and you know put forward on a on a ballot Um but also recognizing that um
the current national landscape of finances certainly is hindering um you know people's view of you know their retirement outcomes and you know what um what's happening So not not to be tonedeaf to that um I'd spoken with the
superintendent um after the Tuesday meeting um to get some recommendations and we discussed the school committee as a board discuss those recommendations and so what we would be um looking to do is to uh um to seek a multi-year
uh override in um which would be FY26 six for the 650,000 and then in a subsequent year the 225 to bring the total ask of
875,000 Um the first year FY26 would require um relying on our reserve funds um up to about 300,000 which is not ideal it would still require some some
layoffs but um it looks at this point the superintendent is um believes that that can be um minimized to maybe about four total FTEEs versus 11 personnel Um so there will still be staffing
adjustments Um part of that will also be the school committee will be evaluating increasing the bus fee maybe incrementally this one year $25 U and evaluating it again maybe next year so that reliance on the operational
um budget or the school choice account is is less to u subsidize that expense in particular Um and so that is what what is you know being looked at and again I don't think
anyone I think there's you know concern so people could vote for one or for both you know um and then let's just put it to the public to to decide what they would need to do It would be two different votes and then um the ballot
would also be two different questions as well So that is what the school committee has recommended um to to people who can you know if they want to vote for both great if they don't um I
think the risk of none is is is a is a worry and the the feedback that you know I I think right now if this was different times of what's happening and you know people who are looking to retire in the next year I think I've gotten also that concern has
rated or people who have already recently retired looking at their retirement accounts Uh it's just very volatile and it could you know it could um change within 6 months but we don't know And people are going to be making decisions right now based on what's happening right now And and so we wanted
to make sure that we understood that it's not that people do not want to fund the schools it's that people just generally have a fear of how to live in our community and um and how to get by And that's not you know we're all
residents That doesn't you know that that message is not um you know we hear that loud and clear So I I just wanted I think this was where the school thought um would be an option And the reason why
pursuing um a multi-year another one in FY27 now is because one there's um no guarantee that the select board will call a special election in in subsequent years
um because it is outside of the school's control to compel um the select board to do that and right now is you know uh we do know that minimally um we will need to rely less on our
reserve funds and that's what that additional funding in that subsequent FY27 would be looking to do is to really kind of allow us to again have more breathing room in that year We would also not be hiring the athletic trainer
in FY26 And um and we'll be re-evaluating that next year So Jillian you're going to get an email in your inbox tonight just so you know Um and to
circulate for BINCOM Um but I wanted to because this was kind of um Yeah Before we get too far into it do you know that we're allowed to do this yes Okay Uh yeah doing a multi-year was one of the options
um offline I have spoken to individual select board members just to kind of as a litmus test before this was brought to the school committee to um gauge appetite and um you know willingness and I think that um you know I can't speak
for the select board as a whole but my sense was that um there was a feel that adjusting the numbers um would be uh a more palatable approach maybe with the community Um but we'll we'll find out
tomorrow night for sure um as a board how that works So the article you're referring to this current one I'm showing is still an old version because it doesn't talk about multi-year Yes Yes This is exactly this
is just what so as of Thursday night which ended up being a very long night and then um I started working on the weekend because the school committee authorized me to um finalize it on their behalf and submit um that is the that's the the
language that will be used So it's based on the current guidance that is the prop um two and a half the the DLS um crafted handout they have certain like examples Um it's also using um you
know it is what Lisa me had discussed in one of the options that we hadn't really explored before but I I think um the school committee as a whole felt like looking beyond FY27 was too too much So basically how that would work is that it just creates that if it if they both get
voted that it would create the top whatever the rate is set it would just like be the extra to whatever add to the levy limit um for next year Um there's a lot of things that could change also between now and then and that's why you know looking for additional funding in
the subsequent year um more was not really um a desire because um there's things could happen with the state you know funding um that could change how much we end up using So if there is um if the state let's just say
chapter 70 miraculously we get you know a recommendation or a budget gets finalized where we get I don't know three and a half% you know for both years um you know we might not be required to we might not need those that amount and it would just be kind of in
the built into the the levy um for that year So that's kind of where the best with the information that we have trying to think about what we need now trying to be responsive to the community and all the other needs but also recognizing we
have limitations and I don't know um if we're going to get another opportunity you know to ask for an override Took this many years to even bring it forward once Um I think there's a a a clear worry that people are just going to have school exhaustion you know
with um we had the bleacher discussion and I'm not saying that there's not these needs for it but it's just a lot you know happening within a relatively you know five you know you have the the green meadow school the bleacher that you know clearly didn't pass um this will be going on and then thinking about
introducing next year I'm not sure that that would be a successful campaign and again we can't compel the select board to put it on call an election Um even if we did feel we wanted to do that and it felt like a risk to not just maximize the opportunity now if we can
knowing that we will need something just not exactly um based on what we know now All right Thanks for sharing I see Nathan you have comments uh yes thanks Um uh Natasha could you just clarify um
is is this one vote for an override that's 650 this year and then another 225 next year or is it two separate articles i'm I'm just a little unclear Yeah it's it's um based on what the the guidance is it's would be two different
articles So it it does require two different votes from how I read um the guidance So that's what we would be recommending Um Greg was given a heads up that this would be coming forward for
the school committee to discuss So he may very likely have you know some preliminary information that he's gotten from Lisa me um ahead of this because we you know certainly didn't want it to appear as a surprise for the select board or um you know Greg as we're kind
of heading into the 11th hour and doing it So they do have some um awareness that this was a conversation piece and the position that the school committee took So it's just more of a matter of and the numbers um that that we've um we voted on So it's more of a matter of me
just providing the comments um and then ensuring that that that like Greg is going to have to make the ballot question It would just be very similar in context Um but it it would be two votes at this town meeting and one would take effect
this year and the second would take effect next year Yes Okay And and the total amount is 775 So that that's down from the 1 875 875 Yeah Okay cool Thanks
for Yeah No thanks Good questions Linda Yeah Natasha I had I had a concern about FY27 because that's when the new Green Meadow comes online and I know that the business manager when we met before said
it's really uncertain what the operational costs would be So if we go for an FY27 override now does that preclude you from coming back next year for more do you know um nothing precludes us from coming back We just So you could come back for
more next year Yeah Okay um we we could not unless the select board called the election Yeah So that's the part that we're uncertain about and given um our history with you know providing recommendations and the select board
being very cautious on how they want to proceed and they not necessarily taking the school committees at face um it felt like a larger risk to not ask the question now knowing that we have an election um versus not asking the question and assuming that we would have
an opportunity to do so next year Okay Thank you Um just from sorry go ahead Peter No go ahead Um just for my own procedural understanding uh Natasha is there a distinction between the election that
would I guess normally be required to be called in the case of an override being passed and like the special election that you're describing um so the special election is what what the select board is going to be calling for right now Um for that May 27th date
that's a special election The one that's just standing is the annual one that comes in May um that is normally associated with like elections and that has you know anything that's our routine like seats and and stuff that comes on ideally we try to
keep things on one like ballot there or like there's like the November when there's no election like the like the state try to keep that but in order to get a question happening on those the select board is the one who still needs to approve the um so they have to call
an election a special election it would be their authority or they have to be the ones to propose like to actually put a ballot question on if it is specific to um an override And so that's where the authority to do
that We could come forward with an article but if you have an article without a ballot then you um then then you don't get the funding Gotcha Thank you
All right Um do we have any more discussion on this topic uh as a committee I don't I thought Peter had a question but I wasn't sure earlier
No no I don't Okay Yeah So I think um we will see how this goes at the select board meeting tomorrow Um and we can review it once we get the
actual document ourselves as well Uh seeing how it is written I think would be helpful at least for me I'm a visual person So um Nathan do you know with your spreadsheet how much
um an 875 total would be i believe there's a sheet reference on on one of the presentations Let me see if I can find that
Do you um Jillian are you asking for like what the what the total um like the total revenue would look like if if um if a 650k override is instated like how much that would be on an
average tax bill is we had like a cheat sheet for that Yeah it was like 160 or something No no no I because we looked at that number I think it was like 1 160 or something in something in the ones Um because we looked at the the 1.2 two was two was $300 So about half of that that
makes sense would be about 150 or 160 Um yes I I was just able to um pull it up It looks like uh you're right on the mark uh Katie $152.13 is the impact for the average test value
That's from the DLS website Yes Deal Okay Yes And then the senior center would be was it about $50 a year for the 200,000 so still about 200 total between the two Okay Oh
god that is helpful Thank you Appreciate that All right Um If we don't have any further discussion on the April 8th meeting I would propose that we move on to our talking about the annual It's sort of a one in the same
topic but uh I was hoping to actually if there's additional articles that we can vote on tonight or get recommendations on uh that would be great So we got our um that we can make in printed articles
We can get them in the warrant now We have our new deadline is April 22nd So um if we do vote on any additional articles tonight and have any comments we can still get them to be in the printed warrant So this is an update that I just
got from Greg So I was asking when he needs us to to finalize the other ones Um so I think there's a couple that might be something that we could actually review tonight um and maybe get those finalized
Um I could share this Um so there's some that we won't be able to get finalized So like the free cash and the general budget like those things need to be set by the select board Um there's some I don't know if
procedural is the correct word but you know like we always transfer ambulance receipts every year Um so we have not yet discussed or voted on article F Um I would happily do a motion if I mean I
don't want to move too quickly if people really are unsure but I'm familiar with this and would be happy to do a motion to recommend I'm not hearing objections So are you is okay with that Joe i was
I'm okay with that I'll second the motion This is article F Okay Yep Yeah Yes I moved Yep Yeah Do we have any further discussion on recommending article F which is the
transfer of the ambulance receipts all right No I'm not hearing any Um so I will take a roll call vote to recommend uh article F as written Uh Nathan yes Male yes
Linda yes Peter yes Daniel yes Katie yes Uh I am also a yes [Music]
Um and then I tried to look up comments from the past Um but I was not super successful I've basically been sick as a dog all week So this is the first day that I'm not complete trash So uh Jill I have it up right here from last year's
uh ATM And we had it was like a one sentence um comment Uh I can put that in the chat or uh just read it out if you'd like I guess yeah I think we have chat disabled because we don't actually want to save that for um public commenting
reasons So um so I can I can email it to you or I can just read it out loud whatever's easier I am ready if you want to just read it Passage of this article will move money from ambulance
receipts to be used for leasing required equipment for fire department service Um sorry Passage of this article will move money from ambulance receipts receipts
to be used for leasing required equipment for fire department service So I don't know Subscribe and sponsor comments or should we just put for fire to service yeah I'd say it's more for ambulance
service Well I don't think the E1 Typhoon pumper and EMAC pumps have anything to do with ambulances but I could be wrong You could say emergency Oh I'm sorry Okay Yep Okay Yep Yeah So I mean it is emergency services So emergency services sounds good
And it looks like we're building up the balance It was 575 and we're only spending a little under 300 on it That's good right it is good Yeah Okay All right So this is the new one
I'll highlight that in I don't have no idea red I guess Um okay great Thank you group Okay so uh ch uh we're not going to be able to do J and K Um so that is
the sewer and water Uh Justin said he'll be able to come to our meeting on the 28th Um so I will not be present at the meeting on the 28th Um but it sounds like Katie you're okay with leading that meeting
yes Yes Awesome Uh great And then uh article M is sort of also a new um it's sort of like a routine article So I don't know if you have questions for Justin on this because he will be at
your meeting uh on the 28th but this is sort of the transfer of the golf receipts And basically we do this this is sort of something we've done the past couple meetings as well So we're allocating it um and it's going towards
um they're they're doing it to the capital improvement projects like so you can't generally do them through one single year So this is something that we've also so it talks about how much is in that current account now and then how
much the roof is projected to cost Uh and then this is how much they want to appropriate from the receipts towards that roof fund This is twice what we did last year which is good right we did like 50,000 last year This is good
Yeah I remember Justin also like just saying that it's usually between 50 and 70,000 So like in the in the history of it going on that this seems high Yeah that's good Didn't we have though some reservations
of like should the roof even get replaced when the building is kind of tear down material though at the same time yes Yeah Yeah So and I think if the senior center is get you know if that goes through and
they're out of there we the town could have a big discussion about that replace the roof knock down the building and then I would imagine it's going to it's going to go to capital improvements to the golf course So I think it's
pretty generic Right So if this is and this is why I highlighted it in blue if this is something you have additional questions for Justin with um I would say this is something that I think would be fine to
talk to him at the meeting on the 28th And Jill on the 28th should we take votes on these once we do get clarification from Justin yep So at the at that meeting so what you'll be able to have at that meeting is uh tomorrow at the select board
meeting they'll set the water sewer rates So you should have clarity on all of the water sewer articles as well Okay because some of them we don't have a final draft form currently Um but yeah I would say definitely because we're we're running out of meetings because uh we don't have
very many meetings until town meeting So we do have to vote uh and recommend or not recommend each article and then have our comments Um not all of them have to make the printed warrant though So right the goal tonight is to do as many as we can that we want to have in the printed
warrant But if there's still questions or things we need to talk to other people about then I don't want to make a vote if people still have questions Makes sense
Yeah And yeah so what I'm kind of hearing is that you all would like to talk to Justin about this article so we can look at some of the other ones Is that accurate uh I mean I don't like I I' I'd be ready
to vote on this article today So would I I I would too Yeah I would too As long as we know that that money would go back to the you know general funds for the golf course I I think that's fine Yep That is my understanding of how
this where it's going I'll make a motion to recommend I'll second Peter Peter Thank you Okay we got a recommend and a second Do we have any further discussion on article N the Maynard Golf Course receipts
uh I think I typed this in wrong Should um if it's fiscal year 2025 I'll have to double check but um Okay so we have a recommend Uh any further discussion i will take a roll call vote
for this article Uh Nathan yes Male yes Linda yes Peter yes Nathaniel yes
Katie yes I am also a yes I think I called on everyone People's faces moved around on Zoom Did I miss anybody no Okay All right Um great Uh and I have the comments up from last
year if you want me to read them out Yes please The passage of this article would transfer the sum of um and this year it's $99,42.82 82 from the Maynard Golf Course receipts
reserved for appropriation Uh receipts reserved for appropriation That's all capitalized That's all that's all the name of the account uh reserved for appropriation to pay for capital
improvement to the golf course This is part of an ongoing savings [Music] plan to fund large-scale capital improvements to the clubhouse And I think there was an Oh yeah There is a S after to pay for
capital improvements in line two Is there an S there thank you All right Any further comments on our comments no All right I am taking it that we are now comfortable with article
M All right Great Uh N we don't have yet Uh so those will be determined um at the select meeting uh tomorrow Uh and so will article R which
is the uh water enterprise Um W and X are two articles that I was hoping that we might feel comfortable uh making recommendations on So this is
the Ola Uh I can bring that up uh here So this is so I don't have to switch I'm just going to copy pasta it here So this was increasing the cost of living um to 18
Um I'd be good with this one Yeah I would too All right I'll uh I'll move to recommend article W and I'll second article W All right So we have a recommend we have a second uh for the cost of living
adjustment Do we have any further discussion or comments on this article i'll tell you I'm going to vote no Um I think this is the wrong year for them to bring this forward Um you know Natasha just talked about sort of the financial
instability Um and it's not a lot of money but I think they should wait until the the retirement fund is fully funded Um and and bring it forth then And they said that you know a lot of people aren't even it's not even going
to impact a lot of the retirees So um I'm concerned about both this W and X So but I understand I mean I get a pension myself so I understand this too But I think they should wait a couple of years till they're fully funded and it's
not going to be an a potential impact on the town budget And I I just with all the financial instability I wonder if that's going to be even better this year So anyway that's my two cents We appreciate you sharing that
Yeah I guess I mean I have some of the same concerns Uh I'm more comfortable with this article though because just the small scale of money and the fact that you know we're talking about someone getting a
cola only on 15,000 and lord I hope their pension is more than that Um so they don't get a cola on the whole amount of their pension just this $15,000
base Um so yeah based on that I feel like we can deal with moving up to 18,000 And again I hope their pension is double that at least but don't know Thank you for the comments Do we have
any additional comments before we go to the vote for recommending no Okay Um All right So we will take a roll call vote to recommend Uh Nathan yes Male yes
Linda no Peter yes Nathaniel yes Okay Uh Katie yes
Okay Um and I am also a yes So that is six yes and one no Um do we feel that there is a comment that we can easily make tonight that I can include to be included in the printed warrant
i was trying to see what day they came to look at my notes It was on the 7th Yeah last time last week It's kind of like how Peter responded to Linda as a comment to be honest
Peter responded to Linda Well it's a small amount of money and it's only it's only on the first $18,000 of their pension So it's a for each retiree it's a minimal impact I mean I understand that
Yeah Wait what is it where's my calculator and they and they believe it'll come out of um employee contributions and investment income and not have an
impact on the town budget That's what they thought Yeah I I I wouldn't push that line because I don't think that's really true But I mean the increase to the pension of the affected retirees from this is
$90 Yeah Annually So you know if we're really talking about pensions at this level I I could live with the $90 extra they're going to get
Yeah Which is not a good comment So um my understanding is also that the application of this is really limited right in that it's it's actually really only applying to people um who are receiving a pension between 15,000 and 18,000 No no it applies to everybody It
applies to everybody Yeah Okay I'll tell you my cola base is 13 So and you know and everybody has a pension way more than that but you only get your cost of living on that lower amount Okay Gota Yeah Really is and do you know is that
common i I'm a state retiree so and it hasn't changed for many many years but anyway it's but they've had evidence that many towns are and we're trying to up it of course but yeah so everyone's pension is more but you're only going to get cost
of living on that first low amount it's very common for public sector retirees What happens when I have a Zoom window open and my windows open all right I'm losing I had a window
open Where'd it go there it All right I'm looking at my notes here [Music] Um so it only affects All right So this this is what I have in my notes
here So the cola base only going to affect them receiving a pension of this or less No that's not true No that's not that's not correct Yeah Yeah I want this part of the sentence
No I don't want any Well that could be true Yeah that's true Yeah that's true Yeah I mean if you do the calculation it's $90 They estimated a cost of 9,000 So the hundred that of things that it would
affect in that first line I think is correct And it's almost probably more common that if the retiree has a pension of say 40,000 they're only going to get right now they would only get 3% on 15,000 and
now they'll get 3% on 18,000 I mean that would be more typical the hund the hundred that receive a pension above 15,000 All right Um 2011 This is the comments directly
from the retirement board So I don't know if we have our comments from 2011 I definitely wasn't on the board back then Oh Oh I do have it You would It wasn't printed in the
warrant unfortunately Spring of 2011 Oh the comments were not printed Oh shoot Okay And I don't seem to have a copy of the comments The website only goes back to 2015 it looks
like Okay Um Okay How about um something like um town retirees only receive a cost of living adjustment
on the on a base amount of their pension This raises the base from 15,000 to 18,000 I don't know if base is exactly the right word but you could say flat instead of base
Um yeah they use the word base I don't know if that matters So does anyone know want to know what Open AI says
yes I would like for a comment Oh yeah Okay The finance committee recommends that the insert governing body approve an increase in the base amount upon which the annual cost of living is calculated for eligible public retirees The current cola base for public retirees has
remained unchanged at 15,000 since 2011 Despite increases in the cost of living health care and other essential expenses many retirees who rely on fixed incomes are increasingly vulnerable to inflationary deflationary pressures and
consult consultation with the retirement board And after reviewing the long-term fiscal impact the finance committee supports a revision of the COLA base from 15,000 to 18,000 effective FY25 Not bad right
yeah I can't take that fast though I know But anyway just a little wordy The beginning was good though The beginning was good Yeah So the finance committee recommends that do we say the annual town meeting or recommends approving an
increase in the base amount upon which the should we go to like the second sentence of it though i mean the first sentence just restated stuff and I don't want to it would become a recommendation out of our normal style where we try not to
repeat stuff So the second sentence is the current colab base for public retirees has remained unchanged at [Music] $15,000 since
2011 And then we could say in consultation with the retirement board and after reviewing the long-term fiscal impact the finance committee supports a revision of the COLA
base from 15,000 to 18,000 effective FY July 26 We support a revision of the cola base from 15,000 to
18,000 effective FY26 Or we can we can skip because we're doing from 15,000 to 18,000 Yeah And then you said something like uh well COLA is cost of living
adjustment So I don't need to say to support cost of living because that's what cola means Yeah I left off the sentence about um the phrase despite increases in the cost of living healthcare and other essential expenses Many retirees who rely on fix fixed
incomes are increasingly vulnerable to inflationary pressures Do you want to that was the part I liked Oh you like that okay It's you know providing like the why of it like like we know we know what it is
from the uh from from the text of the the Yeah So we could say despite increases in the cost of living health care and other essential expenses Um do we want to say something about the
cost or the amount to each retiree because I think that you know you could say the maximum increase to any retiree is $90 Yeah Yeah That's that's a good I just
think it puts it in context and you don't have somebody making assumptions about you know huge amounts or something just I guess tie it all you know perfectly together and because this these numbers were certainly helpful for me and just like understanding the
article should we mention that there are you know 143 retirees 100 of which receive more than 15,000 because then you got your you know 100 times 90 equals 90,000 just to make that sort of perfectly explicit for everyone [Music] Okay Wait about
like that Um so is it is it exactly 143 retirees it's approximately It's not exactly approximately Maybe it should be 140 Um instead of thus may qualify maybe just say would be
affected or would receive the benefit May qualify It's not a may though It's a will right so will um yeah but I you know I'm not entirely
sure that it's exactly 100 but it's not so that's why I'm saying oh okay I see I mean we can honestly probably just keep it at only about 100 receive above 15,000 and then the maximum increase is going to be 90 So I
feel like that also just like ties it together you know well enough as well So just get rid of those with two words Um just for my own curiosity this is not something we necessarily would have to put in those in the comment but is the $90 figure is that just a function of the
3%age increase yeah it's 3% of 3,000 Yeah Oh right Okay Gotcha Yep Thank you And they only had one year where they had the 5% They said that And it can be up to 3% I think by statute it can be up to 3% So this year
it might be low lower because inflation you know social security is going to be about 2.2 two they think this year do you think this comment about only about 100 receive above
15,000 do would you think that a lay person like a town person reading this would think that they're getting 15k right now like do we need to explain what a cola base is Yeah I I I I think that's a really good point
I think so too because it's conf it's was confusing even to us right it's Yeah that you don't get you don't get your cost of living on your whole pension You only get it on that portion of your pension that's established
Yeah that should be like the first sentence you know we we define it and then we say current base has been unchanged since this Um okay All right Uh did they explain it in their sponsor comments because I don't want to reexlain
something No Okay [Music] Um the I'll just read this The cola base is the dollar amount of the pension that the cola is applied to It's not the full pension amount unless the retireese's
pension is equal to or less than the base Okay Do we like that definition or we could say a cost of living adjustment is an annual increase to a retireesees pension that helps offset inflation But the COLA base is the
dollar amount of the pension that that COLA is applied to It's not the full pension unless unless the pension is equal to or less than the base [Music]
like that I mean I guess we could you might want to say that the base is that that portion of the pension that's the cost of living is applied to It's the it's not the starting point but it's actually the ending point of where your cost of living gets
to that I'll get rid of the starting point It refers to the maximum amount of the pension to which the cost of living applies Even if your pension is higher we could say that um that cola is
the uh limit to which a pension can can increase uh to keep up with inflation Okay I think that looks pretty good Um I would uh if we're done with the first sentence I would the after consultation with the
retirement board I would either cut that sentence entirely or put it at the end I'm I'm in favor of making more concise words the comment that how it is now That
looks good to me Absolutely I would say um what it in other places I'm looking base isn't capitalized that way Is this um I only have it capitalized because that is how it was capitalized in the email from the uh retirement board But if we
don't want to capitalize it we can not do that I don't think it's an acronym but I wasn't sure Yeah I'm just I'm I'm sort of poking around and I don't see it capitalized like that in other places so that might just be how they formatted their email
Okay um very minor but just resulting in a total of 9,000 just to make that a I left out the letter A Did I get it total of total of Got
it Thanks for keeping me honest you know how good I am with English So I appreciate it Not to draw this out any further but should we mention at all that it's you know paid out from the like uh investments and like that whole amount
isn't going to impact like the town budget directly or is that like too complicated i don't think it's really true So I don't want to put it in explain how it's funded I think it's
over complicated Mhm Okay All right If we're happy with that uh would we like to move on to the next one i feel like this one has has good Uh I'll also pass along these
comments to the retirement board as well um just in case they have any additional feedback right um I think this one is something that the select board members are concerned about and you know I
think I also have some potential concerns I think as one member um that the $3,000 is an appropriate number based on what other retirement board
stipens are Um I sort of my main question is is this the time that we want to be adding more onto the budget potentially ideally it would be covered from the funds themselves Um but if
there is not a good year uh they might not be able to cover it And I wasn't completely satisfied with you know one member gets the stipend already because that's required by Massachusetts law from my understanding Um but the other members do not
Uh so that's my two cents I'll open up the Yeah that argument didn't feel very good to me either Someone else gets it and thus I should necessarily I'm curious as to why state law only requires one member to be paid but that's neither here nor there
I w I was very troubled when we heard that the board members are all besides the exficio member the treasurer they're all current time employees and they're attending a one-hour meeting a month and 18 hours
which which that would come to 250 an hour for the meeting And even if you add it on there 18 hours of training that's like 30 hours So it's a $100 of pay It's a big stipend for
current employees And I really have I'm very troubled that it's at the lunch hour and they're not like traveling to and from Are they really not dig digging into their the time that they should be you know working for the town I was very
troubled by that I also feel like if they were going to the the the main rationale that I believed in I guess was that they had a lot of trouble obtaining members to this board like we don't put someone on this board as a liaison because of their
timing and if they pushed this to a I guess normal hours somewhere between 6 and 8 first and then show that they couldn't obtain members and then ask for this that would make a lot more sense to me but just going to this oh we want
money we deserve it and we can't find numbers but they have it at noon on a Wednesday or whatever the day is That that just felt like a false argument Yeah I was very troubled by this But I could just add that to you know
certainly I might feel comfortable with like giving a stipen to like that fifth impartial like neutral member that they need But um maybe not necessarily I don't know if I would vote yes as the I don't think I would vote yes as the article sort of currently stands you know not at least for that reason All
the other reasons that we've that we've discussed just now All right Do we have any other discussion there's no more comments I'd be happy to move for a vote So I guess I'll make a motion to not
recommend article I was gonna ask how do you do that yeah I was I'm just guessing I think that's how do you do that yeah Okay All right So we have a motion Uh we have a motion to not recommend the
retirement board stipend And we have a second Do we have any further discussion no All right I will take a roll call vote to not recommend So if you vote yes that means you are not recommending Okay Okay All right So
Nathan yes Miguel yes Linda yes Peter yes Nathaniel yes
Katie yes All right Uh I am also a yes Uh so that is um there Uh and then I think a comment
would be helpful because the select board also is interested on this as well I I mean I don't know how how strong of an opinion we can put down but I'd say something along the lines of
starting with despite the payments not coming or coming from funds under the control of the board the finance committee is not comfortable with the rationale behind spending money to uh attract
board members when the uh when other avenues have not been pursued to try and you know alleviate that problem along those lines because that's that's the biggest standard Um personally
can I suggest we start with and I you know I don't mean to be too political or whatever but some kind of acknowledgement that the finance committee understands the burdens of volunteering for boards
um and you know appreciates the service of the retirement board Um but there are many committees in town that function as volunteers
and you know then on to um you know something about you know I don't know we think they haven't tried hard enough or you know we're concerned about adding into this economic time Um but I would al I think it's also to
mention that there are a bunch of volunteer boards in town the retirement board You I'm sure the select board that works harder than anybody is looking at them saying "Hey um
we mentioned something about about um I think it was Nquille's idea about like or Nathaniel's about having the meetings at different times I don't know Or try different strategies." I guess we should we shouldn't preach to them but um
I'm I'm I'm not sure we we I'm not sure we should be getting into like specific like requests like that in these comments Yeah I I agree Yeah actually I agree with that Yeah that's why I was saying that not many other pathways have been attempted
I wasn't going to be specific when it was just more about you know try they should try other things first before throwing money at the problem But honestly the Peter's comment of just saying that you know many other boards function this way with volunteers and
they don't have siphons kind of says the same thing that it might not be a problem if you you know try to solve it another way [Music] I mean I would keep that last sentence I have
concerns that all these little things you know between employee and contributions and returns it's going to be harder to meet their obligation without dipping dipping war into the town the
board they meet on Thursday I was looking around trying to figure out when these meetings are Um is the language in the article itself about attracting people to fill the position or is that just something that came up during our conversations and
questions with them no the article is literally this single sentence Um maybe in the first Oh Um like they in the sponsor comments they don't talk about how this would help them recruit people
um you know all the things that I think were really good in our discussions when we invited them to come talk to us is is just not in this article at all which we we will look at the articles as they come to us and we obviously do our
own research Um So I mean they said their last context contested election took place 10 years ago and they felt that if they had a stipen it could attract more qualified candidates None of that is reflected in their comments I guess it seems like but but actually
you've done it right The difficulties of recruiting new members Yeah So sorry Oh no no no not at all No I'm just going to hear our comments Yeah I guess generally when the um the sponsor comments have been detailed our comments
have been pretty sparse Is that should we be like turning that sort of general rule on its head for this one just because the sponsor comments are so bare bones that that is what I would recommend as one member but obviously this is a a committee
and not a clean queenship kingdom I don't know whatever we are We're a committee So that makes sense to me as well Like certainly we should if they didn't provide a rationale then you know no reason for us not to do that I suppose
so All right Why is that past that color yeah Yeah I like I like having that that little bit of extra specificity in the first um sentence Yeah I guess I would Yeah I would I would cut the difficulties recruiting members to
volunteer boards Just if they're not if they're not providing that in the warrant I I don't think we need to like need to bring that up I think we should just move into like while the requested amount is in line with um some
other towns uh retirement board stipens um there are many volunteer committees in town and in a difficult financial year now is not the right time to ask for this um and we are concerned about
the retirement investment returns that's that's the stuff I would want to see in [Music] So we we thought it was in line with similar towns Uh but we had concerns I don't feel like that could be
one sentence but it's two right now Um that cut that first part The fincom felt that the requested amount and she has changed say like while the requested amount was in line and then put a replace the period
with a comma Huh uh maybe say um in an instead of these challenging investment times I would say like in an uncertain financial market right i'm looking We all can see how bad I spell
today Check won't even pick it up There we go uh the mayor So my understanding is the mayor retirement system will be fully funded as of 2034 Um and like similar they reference the middle sex
one and that won't be until 2036 Um like I'm trying to think is there any numbers So as of 2023 it's 80% funded like if we need any additional numbers their return on investments was
13.38% last in 2023 Yeah I I mean it's not that it isn't good information And I just don't know that it adds to our explanation of why we're voting not recommend Yep The only I think one person said
that we might recommend this to be revisited when it's fully funded Is that I don't know if we want to make that statement as a board 2034 is that that's nine years away I don't think that's a long way away
Yeah Okay Um did we want to say anything about there being many volunteer boards in the town or is that just a little a little too much well I I kind of like including it because
it's part of the reason I think that I'm not arguing they don't bring value in it but there's a lot of people that bring value to the town and don't get a sip for it
um sort of in a similar vein Um one of the big points for me was that uh four of the members are already receiving uh a town's salary Um and I guess that goes hand in hand with like they're only giving up their lunch break you know 1 hour a month that sort of thing Do we want to speak to that at all in our
comment or or kind of more focus on the uh the volunteer point and the uncertain financial environment point i think those two points are enough to justify a no vote
and are a little more general And I don't want to get too specific about you know oh well you get you know you get your lunch hours I I don't want to get to that level of detail that I think is
a little personal or you know I I don't want to get to that level of crit you know so I I think the first two things you mentioned that wait everybody volunteers and there's a rough economic time is enough reason to say no so I
think that's all we need to say but I if other people want to say more that's fine but I just don't want to get have it come across as being a little personal Yeah I I agree It's not I mean because it is in line with similar towns it's not like it's an outrageous request on
their part Um it just doesn't Yeah For all the reasons that we've outlined it doesn't really make sense sense right now for Maynard I would be comfortable with this You feel okay with this comment Okay
Uh and when I send it to the printed warrant I obviously I won't have in like who seconds who whatever is in and the vote number It'll be more general and just say not recommend like the other ones So that's just sort of here for my notes right now Okay
Um I don't know about you guys but I could use five five minutes for a rest room break But if you'd like to talk I think we would be able to vote on article Y tonight Um and maybe discuss uh the senior center I would be comfortable voting on that too But um I
think these are the next two So if you guys want to keep talking I can give someone else the ability to share or I could just leave it here But I do need just a couple minutes to use the restroom
But feel free to talk amongst yourself I'm gonna get a water Likewise I'll be back in a moment We'll make it a bathroom break All right They're coming down at the end of the week All right I have returned Have other
people returned i'm here Yes All right Seems like most people are here I am here All right Um Natasha did you have a a question or a comment before we jump into article Y
i did have a question actually about the one about the different boards which I don't um just as a resident I'm more curious and I don't recall them sharing but I know generally just because there's like conflict of interest when you're paid in
multiple positions if you're a municipal employee there there's certain exemptions that you may have to seek through the ethics commission and I don't know if this applies at all but I wasn't I didn't hear any of that conversation or I wasn't sure if any of
it was provided to the fin at its mother point about whether they had um some of that if the for the folks who were specifically town employees who were also seeking to be paid as
um participating on the board Yes Yep So we did talk to the the board about that and they said that they would be following all Massachusetts general laws um in terms of this potential stipen Okay Okay So they they they had
indicated they were they had sought the exemptions already or they hadn't sought the exemptions They or they didn't I mean I guess there certain like I think there's extra steps that have to be happened in particular if you're
getting paid in two different roles within a town as a municipal person part of it just with the retirement board specifically might be as well just because I know that that they're some members of the retirement
board are like required to be town employees sort of anyway So I'm wondering if that would be like a separate potential sort of category of exemptions that might might not necessarily apply if like already required I guess to be to be town employees but um that's just I'm just
guessing maybe with that Yeah I I know I didn't hear that that part of the conversation so I wasn't sure if if they spoke to that I feel like we asked this and they said that it wasn't a concern Okay Yeah And they did share some documents with us which are posted on uh
the meeting Okay I'll go back and look at that then Thank you They should be on board docs I think it was on the 7th but it might have been the meeting before that Okay Okay Um All
right we are on to article Y Um for me this seems pretty straightforward So um at one of our prior town meetings I don't remember if it was a special town meeting or if it was the annual town meeting um we talked about how if there's any
additional funds or from the remaining from the feasibility stage for the green meadow that that would go back into general stabilization Um oh it's right here article 18 from special town meeting in October 2020 So this is sort of reallocating it back
in because this was not expended So this will go back into the general fund I would move to recommend I'll second Who second it nquille
Yes Yes sure It can be me Yes Okay Um all right Do we have any further discussions comments or otherwise on article Y all right So I will take a roll call
vote to recommend Linda yes Nathan yes Male yes Peter yes Daniel yes
Katie yes I am also a Yes Uh okay And you have Linda as Lena Just a D Oh jeez Sorry There you go Getting tired
Um all right So [Music] um unexpended funds Yeah Expended funds [Music] Um it's going behind windows Can't see
it All right Sorry You could just say we'll move unexpected funds back to capital stabilization where the original funds came from No general stabilization No not Town Zer fund general
stabilization to Oh I'm getting lost here um the general stabilization fund probably uh which was this original source of
these funds We'll leave it at that Perfect Yay All right Uh and then for we have a brand new shiny uh senior center lease article here So
um I can copy past those so I don't have to keep moving back and forth Oh Jesus is huge All right still huge So they specifically updated it So now it includes 141 Parker Street So that is where they would like to have
the lease Uh and it will include it up to 20 years [Music] Uh this is basically giving the select board the ability to enter into an agreement for up to 20 years for 141
partner street in terms of use for a seedure center Um and then this is the new sponsor comment So basically how this works is one article is for the
um there's actually two articles for the senior center One is for the ability to lease a specific site and then the other senior center article is for the 200k So it's in two pieces This is important
legally Um but it is a little bit awkward in terms of voting Julian do you know from the organization of the warrant will the override come first the override vote come first do you know or we know that yet
i will share So I have an updated warrant tracker that's like the tiniest font I've ever seen in my life So I can try to make I saw that Yeah So this is how they're going to be moved
together So um the senior center article is here somewhere Number nine Yeah So it's eight and nine So the first one will be for the budget
which is the amount 200k and then the next one is for the lease authorization up to 20 years That makes sense So yeah um so a r is for the the amount and the z so it's it's eight and nine now will
be for that So this is the new language that we have on the lease authorization Uh and then the AR article from my understanding remains unchanged So um so article Z is for the authorization
of the lease and A R uh we also don't have comments on because um that was in a different spot I can move it You're still sharing the uh tracker
Yep Um let's see if I can stop sharing that and I can go back to that word file So yeah So it'll be in the opposite order So the AR will be first Uh and then I'm going to look I'm pretty sure I have the updated
AR here which is article 8 8 9 All right Okay So a R So this will be the first one So this is asking for 200K So basically how this works is we can
make a motion on both of them separately or we can make a motion on both of them together if we also want to bin them But we'll have to have the recommendation and comments on both articles separately But I would assume that they'll be very similar because they're
related So this is currently called tiny Does the group feel comfortable i'm in favor of both of them Yeah I agree I think the town has to do this It gets the senior center out of the the golf course The building is just
a inappropriate And this gets us into a new space with all the capital costs paid for because of the length of the lease So all the outfitting um will be amortized into the
lease and it's going to be the 141 Parker is a good a good location It's got plenty of parking You don't have to walk up a hill parking lot right yeah There's no way I mean
there's just that space is so unfeasible The building and we know the golf course building is in a shambles Um it's not going to last I think it allows the town a lot more flexibility to plan what to do with that asset Um
it was closed for several days earlier this spring for um maintenance purposes for infestation Yeah In Yeah It's just such a money pit that location Yeah Yeah And it's ne no matter that you're never going to change
the hill and the parking Um Yeah So all right Would we like to make a motion for article AR override contingent budget i would move to recommend
and I I'll second Thank you Okay So we have a recommend movement and a second Do we have further discussion on article AR all right I will take a roll call vote Linda Oh sorry Yes
Nathan yes Miguel yes Peter yes Nathaniel yes Katie yes
All right I am also a yes Uh I would I would recommend we come back to the comments after we do article Z and voting on that Does that fit okay with the rest of the committee yes You can write the comments at the same
time for both of them All right So this is for lease of authorization up to 20 years for the space specifically naming the site and then naming how they would um the select board would have the ability to do a certain lease leasing
scheme Do we have any discussions or otherwise on this article do we have a recommendation i would make a motion to recommend scroll up Can't see what it's labeled Article Z
I'll second Okay we have a recommend uh we got a and we got a second Do we have any further discussion on article Z which is the leasing itty bitty committee i was
popping pills All right And we'll take a roll call vote to recommend Linda yes Nathan yes Male yes Peter yes
Daniel yes Katie yes Right I am also yes Um all right So
um just for ease so passage of this article would allow for override of um to used for
Uh [Music] uh leing Yeah Leing enter uh space this amount The this was a um it was like through the committee
through like through it was like a working group right to do this senior center uh senior center committee like that was the name of the group right yeah that was and that was appointed by the select
board and that was um probably in response to I'm forgetting was it the annual town meeting the special town meeting in October of 23 I think
I think that's was when the town overwhelmingly passed support for um the citizen initiated petition that um would have had a similar amount of money out of free cash But that was
advisory but it was a definitely an overwhelming vote Okay Um so we talk about how passage of this would be an override of $2,000 um would be used for leasing a senior center space The amount was determined
through the efforts of the senior center committee appointed by the select board Um do we want to say anything else about the re and and like in conjunction with the council on aging or That's good Yeah
Uh and I don't know how specific we have to be because you know it says the RFPs it it'll do the lease the utilities the furnishing and everything in there So um to include amenities I don't know if that's the right word
Buildout costs Build out Is there an acronym there could just say construction costs to the glue like that Well I don't want them to think it includes programming costs because that's not
correct All necessary building cost um for furnishing uh for adapting the space to the needs of um the the [Music]
residents in your center space You're saying necessary twice in a row there [Music] Thank you Build It's They're not building a new building though The build out Build
out Is that a word not Yes it is a word Okay Um should it just say this amount is expected um the request for proposal proposals already happened Okay Well I mean should should we delete the
part that says requests for proposals uh that is that is important Yeah Should we say anything about um the 2023 special town meeting and you know the overwhelming uh show of support for for
appropriating the funds for a new senior center should we say anything about the condition of the current senior center you know we've been hearing about this like for continuously but um you know not not everybody in town is
necessarily keyed in on this but nor is that really a the fact that it's been going on for a long time isn't really a good reason to vote for it you know the prior town meeting I
mean you can't bind a future legislature with so I mean the condition of the current senior center I think is quite appropriate that makes sense but yeah not that we've been talking about this forever and haven't done anything yet even if it's
true but I don't know when it's going to be ready though Like if we're going to say Yeah I mean you could say if we're gonna say Yeah the current senior center Just say um it would allow the transfer of the senior
center from the current inadequate space or grossly inadequate come inaccessible to to from the current space and then describe why the current space is
bad From the current space which is at the top of an icy hill in a building with a leaking roof on what was the senior study that just happened it was the assessment of aging Um
[Music] let me see if I have a copy I'm going to look it up here Aging and maynard a community needs assessment done by UMass Aging and a community needs assessment
What is it sorry Aing A community needs assessment highlighted the need for a new community center Uh sorry a new senior center recent study agent
current Are we satisfied with these words did I make the English it looks good I like it Yeah it looks good to me Good job Um
so I'm going to copy this is what we just said for this one And then [Music] um okay so there our comments now we just have to make a comment about the actual terms of the lease so they can
negotiate the lease So um sorry the um uh UMass should have both the U and BM capitalized Don't judge me UMass I am an alum but I don't know how to spell
Okay Um like board to negotiate for a at 141 Street or Um I don't know if we want to again
mention the study here and Make sure I got the right address 141 Parker Street Um we can say something like the flexibility in this article would
allow to get the best deal I don't know I don't really know honestly if we need to say much more than this but I think that honestly is pretty sufficient uh just as one member
Okay We have any additional feedback or comments we're almost done friends Um I'm sorry Can you go back to look at the override comment i'm just a and I was a
little confused about what we were um because it's an override What about adding a final sentence something along the lines of Uh this has been a recognized need in
town for a number of years However we have not been able to create space in the operating budget for the senior center
and endorse an override because the project is so important I think because it's an override we got to say something about you know it's not a win kind of thing I'm sorry I I was I was thinking this was more about the lease than the
actual override and was confused So this one Yeah this one's the override So I don't know if you want to say the average single family house tax bill is $50 I do want to put in parenthesis what that is I don't know if Nquille can get that
from DLS Um I would strongly use uh approximately $50 Um particularly in this one Um it's uh I guess technically $48.90 Um but the the average assessed
value for that is um 543 uh,324 Sorry 543 Um but you can't put that there because that's not the tax bill Mhm Um the average the average single family
house value or something Uh you could say the average single family house and then put in parentheses valued at or you know you
just put the 539 there then I guess I guess if you want the the actual Oh okay Yeah something like that valued around 539,000 It says I would just say I would say
approx 539K Uh I wouldn't say value Don't need it It's obvious I would get rid of of approx at the end and to say about so that we're not saying a prox Yeah So you're not
um instead just the way it's phrased cost the average single family house like houses don't pay tax bills I would say it would add about $50 to the tax assessment for an average single family house Sure Yeah Yep And it's not it's not the
tax assessment it's the tax bill I think Yes it is It is the tax bill I thought Yeah Yes it is Should you say like household maybe or
No I think it is average single family house cuz it's the house that's taxed The tax bill would go after the parentheses there Yeah you can just write right right after Yeah right there if you want
Um and I'm f maybe it's not as important as I think or but Jill you kind of co-authored my last sentence where I want to say that we've tried to fit this into the operating
budget unsuccessfully And maybe that goes without saying Maybe that's just a slightly obvious and meaningless sentence but it's not like we just decided an
override this year Well you know we've been unable to fulfill this need and I'm only doing an override after like four years of people saying "We really need to do this
I just don't want it to come across that we're doing an override lightly like this Uh I would say this has been a recognized need in town Um and we have been unable This has
and then I think the beginning of the next sentence is it it is expected instead of this override well we got this override in it twice it is expected that this override Yeah that this Yeah there was this
override was twice um yeah I think that that gets to what I wanted to add to it Uh I I would say it would add about instead of cost and make sure we have the word
annual tax bill in there because that gets asked like every time this this gets brought up like is this our quarterly tax or annual tax Um also uh I'm not sure where 539 came from The the number I'm seeing is uh 543
Yeah I see that number too 543 we could say approx 540 I think is good Yeah send town council with all our comments and if they don't like something they will let us know For some reason I think that Greg hasn't put
what the approximate value is for some reason but I don't I don't because she's afraid someone will come back and criticize him for it Yeah We don't care if somebody comes back and criticizes us
We are a volunteer board Yep Please take away my volunteer Okay [Music] Um okay Um this is not a substantive a
substantive uh edit but we do have a blue line under a number of if we wanted to make that like many or something Yeah Several of you four years I mean we can just delete it and just say for
years I feel like everyone was waiting for that new math study to really figure out what we were going to do So but I also don't think we can actually fit it into our standard operating budget at all since we can't
even fit trash stickers in there anymore Yes but honestly I think the UMass study was a crutch I do too I I think the senior people you know engaged in the UMass study to add pressure and then the
select board said "Well of course we're going to wait for the study." Yep So I mean it it worked but I don't think it was just waiting for the study Okay Um I would put the that last sentence make that like the second sentence Um like passage of this article
would allow for the override It's going to cost this much And then we move into like here's the need And we end with this has been a recognized need uh in town for years This has been a recognized in town for years and one which we have been unable
to fit in the standard operating budget Yeah that's better I don't think we need that last little bit We don't need that Okay Oh and uh I think you deleted the word for by accident at the beginning of that
line Recognize need in town for years Oh yeah All right we feel comfortable with this I think that looks good Okay so this talks about the cost uh to
the tax bill and then the lease comments are just saying that it allows them to negotiate for a lease there And then we have this uh UMass study citation again All
right We good with those two okay Um we don't yet have the school one Delete that Uh we did all these uh article AQ is the resol revolving
fund [Music] Um so this is something that is in every ATM article and in this year they're going to increase um two of these to
reflect uh the current business and cost of inspections and then also to reflect the programming fee So those are these are the two the scaler of weight to measures and the um recreation So those
two line items have been increased in the revolving fund spending limit So this is as is the limit for uh FY26 proposed Uh sorry it's late and I'm I'm I'm having trouble remembering what exact
these aren't like expenses for the town right like we're not authorizing to spend this money So the town meeting has to authorize spending any money What it is doing is authorizing spending
the money it takes in as plumbing inspection fees to pay for the plumbing inspector So the money comes in and goes out of this revolving fund but town meeting has to authorize them Cool Can
we say something like that in the um in the in our comments just I remember I remember there were like a few people who there's at least one person who who really want needed to like question like why are we spending money on this item and this
item this item and I don't think it's very clear to somebody who just shows up at like town meeting like what a revolving fund is I feel like we wrote this in our comments last year our comments last year are
slightly I don't to me a little bit less than informative I think Nathan's right Last year was last year was this is an annual procedural article to authorize resolving funds in the amounts detailed in the article to allowing the town to
collect and disperse money for certain stated purposes And does do we know like the school department gets has a big or can build up quite a balance in those revolvers Do we in these revolvers do we ever have a
balance or we just or is it kind of like what we take what we estimate we're taking in we're spending out You know I don't know the answer to that I don't know if they So either the balance would stay there or they would close out to free cash Okay Um the
school It's not like the schools that that add up No the school ones have specific state law authority to carry a balance and the balance is capped at one year of income So it can't be uh the
balance can't grow too large but they're allowed to reserve up to one year of income into the fund at least for one of for the special ed fund Um and and the money So this comes in from fees and then does the 410,000 go
into our general operating budget or does it have to like the electric charging station so it so where does that money go to the electric vehicle charging stations the 35 grand it it it's treated as a separate fund
Yeah in the way that um I don't know the CPA fund is separate or you know the the we moved money into that green meadow um assessment fund Yeah spent money out
of it and then transferred it back to general stabilization where creating a fund of up to $35,000 into which the payments for charging go and then the payments to for electricity and stuff come out of that
fund and they kind of skip the general fund They don't show in the general fund So the the bylaw I thought we found 400 grand Sorry No I mean we wouldn't get the money
unless we were providing the service So we can't really cut this All right I have the um I have the bylaws up and it specifies how each of these funds can be used So van service
revenue source Oh the council of on aging van service The revenue source is fees for the van service and the use is council on aging operational expenses and part-time wages is said "I don't see electric vehicle
charging stations in the 2024 bylaws." So I'm not sure where that would be specified So is this is this is this do the funds need to be recreated annually or is this
authorizing funds to be moved out of those accounts to be or expended out of those accounts to pay for um the specified purposes in the bylaws no the funds are authorized
annually and what we have to do is authorize an upper limit on the spending So if Council on Aging collects $90,000 um that's still going to sit in the account but they're limited to spending $85,000
Yes And if they only collect $75,000 they can only spend $75,000 What happens to um money that they don't spend from one year to the next that's what Linda asked And I'm sorry I
don't know the answer It either stays there or closes out to free cash And it doesn't say in the bylaw that they well that they can collect above these limits They just can't spend above these limits
Okay Uh I can ask Greg Um sorry Nathan I mean do we want to add I mean we could go with this past comment and maybe add a sentence at the end And you know to me plumbing inspector is the
clearest Yeah That this authorizes the use of plumbing inspection fees to pay the plumbing inspector Yeah Uh yeah Uh
for you could say for example yes this authorizes How about that yes Although I might want to choose a we might want to choose a different one just because the plumbing is actually a little confusing because the first $15 of the plumbing inspector fee goes to
the general fund and it's only the amount over $15 that uh goes into the revolving fund We could do electrical and I It's Yeah I don't know I I was trying to pick something
simple Um we could say recreation you know it's just harder It's easier to do a short sentence You saying "How about electrical inspector?" Then uh it's the same thing Um probably the same thing
Well let's do this council on aging van service That seems pretty pretty simple to me It comes from the fees for the van service and it goes out to pay for council of aging stuff Yeah it's just less people have experience paying for the council on aging van
there But yeah it's I think people will get it uh ex uh operational expenses and wages for service Oh Uh it's it's their expenses Yeah I think that makes sense
Okay Um So we didn't vote on this Yeah I was just saying uh I move to recommend um article a AQ AQ A second
That's not correct Um no that is correct Okay Um I always mix up my eyes and my E Okay Um all right So we have a recommend Do we have any further discussion on article
AQ no All right So I will take the roll call vote to recommend article AQ for revolving funds Linda yes Nathan yes Male yes
Peter yes Nathaniel yes Katie yes All right I am also a yes Uh I will ask the clarifying question to Greg though Um we do not have so as is the solid
waste We don't have that yet Um the only other article we have is uh the citizens petition for the senior uh resident real estate tax relief Uh and as I shared from town council this is uh considered an advisory article Um and it so
um basically it's it's out of order So um it doesn't actually require the town to take any action because it doesn't propose anything There's not a bylaw There's not a home rule petition and it's not a state law Um so it requires no action
Um it's not currently written in the form of a bylaw And if they want to do a petition a home rule petition you have to go to the legislature to let Maynard have their own law for this So um so we did get town council
response If we would like to vote on this tonight that is my updated information So since uh it is an advisory article I guess just like procedurally like do we do we still like write a
comment and and recommendation as if it was like not an advisory article or like how exactly what do what exactly do we do I guess in this in this situation yeah So from past articles when it's been advisory we still have to recommend or not recommend based on our charter or
like on our what we're supposed to do Then in the comments uh we would explain that this is considered advisory by town council um and it does not require the town to take any
action Um and then basically we would explain it in our comments Um can I propose an alternative theory where we don't have to make a recommendation on this because it's not a valid warrant
article I mean essentially we make this decision Yeah Um you know we we make this decision I I don't think anybody's going to sue us or you know get a court to order us to do something So we get to do
what we want here essentially And we should operate within the bounds of the charter And we just the charter requires us to make a recommendation on all warrant articles I think there's some valid reasoning that this is not a valid warrant article
and and there's really technically nothing to recommend or not recommend right ers would it be possible for us to vote as a tie and one person abstain just procedurally to put that down as something
or do we vote not to recommend because it's not valid article so we vote not to recommend because it's I think that I think that's what we did with the pri was something else that we
knew was going to be route ruled out of order was the senior center Yeah And the roads I think that happened too a few years back Yeah Um I which we certainly can
do I guess I don't know because it's late or whatever I'm more in the mood to say you know I mean a recommendation if we want to This is the uh this one and the Eversource easement
are the only ones that are left besides the ones we can't actually do because the articles aren't finished yet for the select board So um so if you want to do these ones along with the water sewer ones on the 28th
meeting that is also fine They just won't make the printed warrant They'll have to be on a handout We're making the handout no matter what Correct Yeah that is correct The clock on the handout is
minimal That should factor So if we would also like to consider that it is 10:00 Um we can also do that I think the ones that were most uh the the select board were most
interested in were understanding where our stamps would be on the retirement board articles Um and we have completed those recommendations So if we would like to table this that is also acceptable because it is getting
late That sounds good to me Yeah Um did the did we want to have any conversation about the proposed um the the other the school override this lightboard want some sort of signal from us one way or the other At this point
for me without having an article in front of me I can't really I mean I can make a general comments on on the numbers we have but I don't really know how the article's written a little bit I feel
like the you know the million number or 1.1 million had been floated around enough that it made more sense to me that we might you know either as a board or just acting individually provide select feedback to the select board I don't
know I just heard this number tonight I It makes I think it makes me more inclined to support it but I would hesitate to say I'm ready to provide any feedback at this point It's just too new
That's me personally And what whatever we decide to do I know the select board would value feedback from any of us individually um you know you can just email a couple of select board members Um and that's
perfectly appropriate and fine Um you know if you feel strongly one way or the other on this or anything else for that matter But uh but then my my feeling on this one is it's kind of new and to expect us to come up with a recommendation or some feedback on the
spot is a bit much So I don't know what other people think That that all makes sense to me Um Peter you just you you've highlighted um that like a couple times at previous meetings that
uh suggesting maybe we should have a straw poll or something So I just wanted to bring that up before we ended tonight in case we're running against any sort of deadline Yes And I I think there's some validity to that and I it's not like I am taking
it just to do a straw poll or I straw polling whatever it would be on the 1.1 million is a different animal than doing it on this number and I don't even know what it'll be tomorrow night at the select board meeting So I mean clearly
the school board school committee has felt the feedback and changed their ask and that's you know that I think is good So but I don't mean to have my camera I'm
talking um but me personally that's as far as I'm prepared to go just because it's so new But you know if you want to Yeah I mean we can you can propose that we do something as a committee or you know you
can act as an individual too So that's fine Yeah that that makes sense Um I'm I'm fine with uh proceeding towards um the end of this meeting Yay Yay The end Okay
Is this our fourth meeting in a row yeah Four weeks It's like our sixth or something Yeah You got next week off though right yes April break We cannot be on the 21st It is not allowed
Um Okay So yeah So um I'm going to pay attention now I'm not uh Yeah I also feel similar Jill is turning into a pumpkin right now as we speak
Yeah Well I I have about an hour's worth of work after every single call So I'm trying to edit what we were writing here at the same time Jill if you want us to like approve minutes or whatever at the following meeting let me know That's fine too
Yeah I would actually propose that Yeah that's sounds good C can we like move to table routine agenda until our next meeting we can unless uh so the only thing that I don't want to table though is making
sure that we plan the next meeting So um so the topics for the next meeting will be the ATM as they have been um and then the special guest will be DPW uh and I will make sure to get Justin
there and then we will have routine agenda and Jill maybe offline just between email we can email between like highlighted things that I like just what I need to pay attention to on the ATM articles but that can be via email
Yep Um Jill and I guess Katie because you're going to be there next I don't think I'm saying anything and everybody doesn't know and I'm not even sure Justin would be offended at all But in your
invitation Joe can you provide some timeline that's like 15 minutes tops i mean Justin's great He will explain everything but he will also suck up an hour and a half of a meeting when we really have to move some stuff next week
as the last chance So I just want I'm hoping we can put some timeline on it and then Katie you should and I support you too but we may need to cut him off a little bit Um not that he doesn't give great information but it just isn't the
meeting to hear the history of Whites Bond Yeah get that So brief updates on the articles or focused updates Um and I'll ask him for like the final
versions after this April 15th meeting for the select board Julian can I ask is there going to be an override for the those water filtration system rebates for citizens residents was that yet another override potential
or not i don't know that it's an override but I know it's something that they were talking about putting in the water sewer enterprise funds So it would it would not be it would not be an override like to the general fund would be a quote unquote override to the water
sewer rate Okay So last I heard the rates not an override but like an additional cost So last I heard they're projecting a 9% increase to water sewer rates So I don't know if that's what they'll come with to the select board tomorrow but um
but 9% isn't because of the rebate program It's just you know general increase in expenses But I I think the rebate program it will be in there though too That's an additional cost as the rebate is in there not as a I thought they were going
to do a uh water sewer reserve fund request for the rebate program I'm not sure So I don't want to misspeak either but I know that it's um it's got to come from somewhere Yeah that's what I So at the select board meeting when
they were discussing this Justin was suggesting it be a so you may recall we voted to authorize a reserve fund in the water and sewer uh enterprise funds Yeah To take money out of that The procedure
is the consent of the select board and the finance committee So that would come to us as a separate kind of reserve fund transfer but not from our reserve fund from the enterprise reserve fund was the that was the way they
talked about it at a recent select board meeting So okay um Yep All right So I will get the agenda out It'll be ATM It'll have the guest DPW It'll have routine agenda And then
the future meeting after the one on the 28th technically is on the 12th which is our public hearing So I don't know if we want to also plan for one on the 5th Um but the 12th will be our public hearing because the town meeting is on
the 19th right so I think we as a committee without you unfortunately Jill will need to decide on the 28th if we want to meet on the 5th and it'll depend on how many how many articles we have left I mean
there's some potential we could make a recommendation on the we could vote on a recommendation on the 12th following the public hearing We have done that at least once Um but we could also decide on the 28th
to meet on the 5th Correct So I just wanted to highlight the timeline for you all because I just wanted to highlight that it is short there is not a lot of time before town meetings So um we're also authorized to
meet on a day that is not a Monday if that is important to us Um but I don't know that we need more meetings So um um we definitely don't need to meet before the 22nd right we don't need to meet the we my
understanding is we do not need to meet before the 22nd that is to get in the printed document that gets mailed to people Um if we're doing the handout anyway then we don't need to worry about that then at this point I am not aware that that is required So
great Unless he was unclear and we need our printed handout by the 22nd which would just be bananas It would just not work Okay Um yeah So that was the only thing I wanted to highlight just to say we don't have a lot
of topics So I'll add planning for the public hearing uh as a topic because the public hearing will be on um May 12th in case that's needed Okay Uh and Katie I'll send you I'll send out uh after this meeting the
agenda with the Zoom link You'll have to log into the Zoom account Just make sure the day of like norm during normal business hours And if you can't get in Greg Wilson can help you to log in as the Zoom owner Sounds good Thank you And can you send
me what you the disclosure you read when you start yes Yep Awesome Okay Um do we all have any other topics for this evening no Would we like to be done
i'll make a motion to adjourn Can I do that for our meeting on April 14th i'll second Sorry I'm too excited We got a motion to adjourn at 10:10 p.m Uh it's been seconded Any further discussion
no All right I will take a roll call vote to adjurnn Linda yes Nathan yes Male yes Peter yes Daniel
yes Katie yes I am also Yes We are adjourned Thank you everyone Have a good night Bye Have a good night