##VIDEO ID:14fF8Bmq8GI## I'm sure you're dying to hear all the other other business at hand but we wanted to make sure that preserved your time as well so um good evening everyone it is November 7th and we are conducting this meeting remotely as chair of the school committee I need to confirm that all members and persons anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me school committee members when I call your name please respond in the affirmative Mary branley yes here Hillary peretz yes Alexis fish P yes and Mar marrow will be joining us later around 8:00 staff when I call your name please respond in the affirmative Brian hos yes to Cara Janice yes Wayne White yes and I know that Colleen will not be joining us this evening um we do have Senator alri joining us can you hear us okay sir oh me yes I can can you hear me okay yes thank you and it looks like Emily we have you joining us as our school um our school representative this evening can you hear us okay yep wonderful um this 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meeting at manor. k12m us up until the agenda up until the end of the meeting specifically stating their comments to be included in the minutes um before we move on to the first item of the agenda permit me to establish some ground rules for some clear and effective cond our our business and accurate minutes when Colleen is back and she takes them um I will introduce each speaker on the agenda after they conclude their remarks I will ask each member if they have any comments questions or motions they would like to make I will go through the members for additional comments or questions if time allows please hold off speaking until your name is called and remember to speak clearly and in a way that helps generate accurate minutes if members wish to engage with other members please do so through the chair and take care not to interrupt anyone who's speaking finally each vote tonight in this meeting will be conducted via a roll call since all meetings are all members are remote um I'll go ahead and open the meeting via roll call Mary brownley here um Hillary griffits here Alexis fishbone here and Natasha Rivera yes and uh we don't have any public comments that I had seen um and I don't see any hands that are raised for public comments so we will go ahead um and superintendent h no urgent business correct correct okay um so now uh Senator elridge I will give it to you I just want to thank you for joining us this evening I know it's it's been a a hot minute since we've had you invited you back to um one of our meetings and I know that you and are always doing so much great work behind the scenes um but we felt this was really a pivotal time in school funding and education um to really get some you know airtime with you as a committee so um I don't know if you had any particular um things to share um just preemptively and if you did you have uh something that to I can make a a few quick comments yeah because I I'm really here to listen to to the school committee in the in the in superintendent hos um but yeah thank you so much to to Mary Bradley for inviting me and I know that uh representative kogan will be attending a a future meeting um and I will say I I'm I'm particularly happy you invited me uh before the end of the year because um and I'm not sure probably not too many or maybe not many school Committee Member members were there but the mass Municipal Association MMA they had their legislative breakfast at the mayard fire station you know sort of a regional event uh just a couple weeks ago and we certainly heard from uh select board members both mayard and and other towns and the MMA in general that just talked about how as much as um you know we're all proud of the student Opportunity Act uh that that the minimum Aid uh and minimum Aid communities uh and communities in school districts like Minards uh really haven't received you know much of an increase and so uh we really need to take a look at the Chapter 70 formula we need to look at the minimum Aid per pupil funding that's provided to to try to boost uh the aid for for communities like meard that that don't benefit significantly from the student Opportunity Act so I I do think that there's a growing movement uh that going into uh the new legislative session uh you know revenues are are fairly robust of course you we have the Mass fair share millionaires tax which is coming in at well over2 billion a year so I do think there's opportunities for more Investments um in Chapter 70 um in uh specialed circuit breaker and other forms of Aid to cities and towns uh that hopefully can benefit uh the mayard school district and teachers and and kids so I certainly you know would like to hear uh what would be best for me to advocate for with respect to to meard but yeah I do I do really think you know not just meard but you know most of my communities uh that I represent I represent 12 are are saying we really need to see a substantial you know increase in education aid for all uh school districts and all communities so that's certainly a priority for mine going into the next session which begins on January 1 so thanks for having me and looking forward to the conversation and hearing from members and superintendent anyone else um that that's that's great I think um one thing the one of the uh more timely um efforts is regarding the uh amsa so they are one of the charter schools and they have I guess put in an application to expand their enrollment seating for um for the charter to change their Charter um so uh what we have kind of internally um discussed and I think impacts other potentially other districts as well since mayard is one of the core towns um like maror is capped out so they're not it's not going to really impact them as much but um in doing some diving we realized there's a big inequity in the enrollment population that um that impacts Maynard and amson I know Brian you you did a really great um slide deck do we have that we can maybe just kind of look at at a high level some of those um just to to show uh Senator elridge it was just the disparity in um like a dollar does doesn't really go as far as a dollar in mayor than it would at in amsa so they their their El population is is particularly not growing their special needs um students who have um a lot require a lot of resources to support them um they have a below average for the state it was a significant dispar you know amount um and so when we think about like reimbursement for that it just seems a little you know unfair that um you know what you're able to maximize for for funding can go a lot further if you're you know also not serving the most needed within our community um and so as they are um looking to amend their Charter um we certainly were curious and I think they they're going to be doing doing this with desie if there are other opportunities that we would be able to consider that would put some more guard rails on to make sure that the enrollment there is some equity in the enrollment or is there some level of that could be tied to how you know the enrollment is because it's a lottery but we've received a lot of feedback from families that they're eventually you know kind of said well can your family can your child support this you know it's really kind of almost right get canceled out right right exactly exactly um so I I I want to go around to other each member you know I do have some other thoughts but just on this particular um amsa piece I didn't know if may ask a question Natasha sure yes please is first of all thank you for letting me know I I actually was not aware of this so they're looking to to expand the the number of of of seats per per class or what they're building um they're building a new building so they've um so they have a a campaign that they're solic listening to desie to expand their enrollment capacity which would trickle down to each you know their core towns obviously um and they're also campaigning to their you know their parents to say please you know write your comments and in support of this and you know I think all that's great but I just you know when I think about that it shouldn't really come at the expense of of mayard students and what we're able to provide knowing the circumstances that we are in with our Chapter 70 funding that's really not coming in we're just not able to you know move ahead move forward as it is our town allocation has been coming in pretty flat by two and a half percent every every year and that's really not the cost of Education anymore and so we're we're actually going to be pivoting for next year to try to look for an override or an operational override which will be um a long time coming but this certainly y in the long run doesn't help as it would as we're trying to you know retain students or at least make sure that there's equity in the enrollment at other places um this is one that's a con a major concern and um thank you yeah Mary did you I'm going to go around I don't know if you had some questions or comments particular about about this particular one and then we can go on couple um yeah so with the answer it is pretty prevalent um the the information that Brian um was able to put together and we can send you because we're putting together a letter with Hudson um so the three communities um Hudson Clinton and Maynard are the ones that are going to be negatively impacted it's 36 seats that they're adding so if you divide that by the three of us it's an extra 12 students and so that's a significant population for mayard um and and Clinton more so you know us two and then Hudson maybe not so much but still um but it's it did a great job with the the flowcharts and that just showing the disparity between um between the level of the students that they that go to amsa and like we say you know some of them I think are just um dissuaded or or are intimidated to even go through the process because their student might not be you know might have special needs in that so um Mary just I have I have some numbers I just found just to kind of call out just for uh context uh Jamie um so like the percentage of dis students with disabilities amsa since like 2017 to 2024 they're averaging around 5.3% 6.8% um the state average is um 17.7% um from you know 2018 up until 20% 2024 and manard is really right up there with the state average 18.8 um you know this year actually we're a little right at 20% so you can see that 6% versus 20% of the enrolled students is a huge um difference and the same can be seen with the the e um you know the English language Learners as well um they are at one point they were kind of ha but I don't know something happened in a few years and they're well below the state average they had like 4.5% from uh 2018 to 4.77% for this this year and the state average is you know 10 um 10 10% up until like 133% um mayard is not as high but we're certainly higher than what amsa's population is so again those are additional resources it takes and those are the visual on that um it you know imagine expanding the rment so Mary I don't want to interrupt again but I just wanted to call out some numbers that I felt were really important to and again we can get that information to you because um it's really well done in the do document that Hudson and mayard are going to be pushing into um desie but in the other piece of that like Natasha said is that the students that we have that have those special those extra needs it costs money so it's costing us more money and amsa not so much so um just on that piece and the other thing is that the reimbursement has changed um I think when they first started it was 100% reimbursement the the first year and then it went to 60 and went down from there now it's 100% the first year and 25% for the next four years so it's a dramatic you know it's dramatic as far as what it costs us um I think those were the only additional um pieces that that I had for the ampsa piece um I'm gonna just kind of go through the other members Jamie if you okay um Alexis mine was just about the reimbursement to see if there's a way in the discussions that you're having regarding um potential opportunities to increase the allocation to towns um from the state if there's a way to increase that reimbursement back closer to 100% um for school districts that are left sort of with the remaining students sort of like holding the financial bag so to speak um um ensuring that those students that are within the district remain and are eligible to receive the high level of Education regardless of how many students choose to go to amsa um and so because there is there will be that inequity um if there is not enough funding available for those students and that will become noticeable um when it comes to student achievement um you know narrowing the achievement gap for our students moving forward it will have many Downstream effects um and for the economy and for students either going out to work or going on to um College later on so it's not just right now it is all of the other effects this has on the economy and also the future of those students and what they're able to achieve sure I can check on that see if the reimbursement could change yep Hillary I don't know if you had any thoughts or um on this particular point to emphasize or questions or um I think you guys have covered it all and I don't want to keep nothing I would say would be significantly different so um Senor I guess the the one thing that I would well two things I would really want to understand is one is there an opportunity to amend the charter in other ways like was desie allow for such an OP you know if they're asking to change it for enrollment can do we have an opportunity to say well we would also like to add maybe some more accountability um regarding supporting elel or or something that you know is it just this one piece or do we have to do some other work to request that um and then can the funding for a charter school generally include something where they have to if they're you know tied to depending on their percentage of what their enrollments are so if they're not supporting a lot of you know El or special needs students um should there be a consideration or for a formula that really addresses those areas because clearly that's an inequity and you know how they're able to operate versus how a school district for public education is and I think I'm all about you know parent choice for education but um I also want to make sure that we're not swinging the pendulum you know so heavily in one way that we're um cutting ourselves at the knees for the other students um sure so I can check on that and and is is has desie approved this expansion or is it being considered yeah it's being considered so I think there is an open there's an open comment period up until some point in in December so we will you know this is where Mary was mentioning we're going to sign off to um a letter of expressing that um but also anything that you can you know share or Advocate or even just provide information on that might be helpful for us to think about um accountability or equity in the funding related to that or is an opportunity in the charter for us to think about that would be helpful because I think it goes for approval to the state legislature eventually or this I don't know how that works when when charter schools have to update there's a maybe a process there for that right I don't think that's done by the legislature that's done by desie I believe yeah but we can certainly inquire if they could change their standards yep Mary did you have another question no I just I wanted to ask if maybe um Brian or um Chuck or even Wayne had any additional thoughts on it that we I don't have new information Senator um Natasha did a great job of summarizing the memo that we put together which we'll certainly share with you because I think the charts they do speak for themselves if you will and that was sort of enlightening to us as a group when we started to dig in a little deeper just to see that hey our percentages of el students and special education students and students that just typically cost more money to educate we have you know a significantly higher percentage than amsa and actually one of the groups that's growing the largest I'm sure you're aware are High School El students that particular population is booming um which is good we're we're happy to have those students they just they come with expenses because we need staff to educate them appropriately and support them um so as people Mary and Natasha have said we can get the funding to see if there's ways um and I know it's a lottery but if it's it's interesting to me that if it's just a straight Lottery and I think you mentioned it at the very beginning are certain types of students counseled out um and back to their home districts which then leaves the home districts I.E mayard with that population of students that tend to be more expensive um so looking at solutions to that I think you know you hit on the the bigger issues are really the Chapter 70 formula which has been outdated for many many years um circuit breaker would help any and every District um it does a portion of you know that supports us to to some extent um and so I think you have already touched on many of the other budgetary issues that would Ben a small town like mayn we have limited options I don't know if uh Wayne or Chuck want to chime in as well yeah I I just briefly say senator elrich uh I was a founding teacher at a charter school in W the original cohort of Charters back in 1995 and it was for a population of students that had all dropped out of high school and were seeking a high school diploma when Charter School legislation was first introduced one of the missions of charter schools were to be models of innovation demonstrating that you could work with all populations of students effectively when I look at amsa and the numbers they have they're not modeling any of that um what they are doing is they have a highly skewed population that neglects um populations of students that are traditionally uh more challenging to educate those though certainly can be effectively educated and uh you know the phrase cherry-picking however that cherry picking is done whether it's through the public perception they've projected that intimidates some people from even going on a waiting list uh from speaking with parents you know who inquire and sort of guiding certain students away uh the re ity is the bottom line is their population is highly skewed and I think ultimately not meeting the original uh goals of charter schools thank you appreciate it was great um so I think for next steps on this we will um send you just that that presentation or that Brian and the team had put together um just so you can have that visual um and then if maybe you know when you're if you have any time to you know find out what what opportunities or what measures we might be able to leverage as a school district to either for some of the asss that we had whether it's uh funding or to incorporate our own feedback or request maybe to amend the charter that would be interesting to um to maybe know as well so sure um and then I know that did you have any other thoughts on on that before we we had a couple other funding in school no I'll work to get the answers on these things thank you yeah and I I just wanted to offer if there's an not you know if you think it would be worthwhile for us to put together a contingent of people to go in and present or something like that we would be happy to do that also I think we could get you know a number of um people to do it because even though you know we're looking at right now what what is happening with amsa what we've been talking about is universal you know as far as the funding go piece in that goes so um I think we could definitely do that if that would help help you yeah that would thank you the two other things regarding funding and education that I wanted to bring up one I'll start with our bleacher project um our bleacher project is um has hit the skids unfortunately um and I think this is one of those areas that that as you're you know heading into next year's budget any opportunity that we could get uh funding to support um recreational purposes we've tried to go through CPC there's um it doesn't support bleachers so there's a lot of restrictions with CPC funding that has proven um a lot of work and and not a lot of gain there um because we're going to be pursuing an override um for operational needs um in our town just are you know are is so um in that senior level um and they need a senior center so this this uh alumni the bleachers seem to kind of continue to fall behind in in prioritizing as a town and just because like there's so many priorities that need to be funded and our um we haven't had increases a lot of the our budget we've been able to put good um in a in a great way towards of improving our Maintenance and Facilities but that eats and our operation budget for for other things and so we don't have funding resources really to kind of um position us or get our project started um and we've we've tried as many things as we potentially can um but if any feedback or any opportunity that we can really submit um they're condemned the bleachers are condemned they've been condemned for a few years um the rental bleachers that we have now are are are going to be coming down soon because they don't meet code so we can't even have the rental bleachers soon we have um so this will impact wavm because we're going to have to demo the bleachers that we have there so there's a lot of um you know Downstream impact to this um and we're just left because we're just a town that doesn't have a lot of resources you know we we have it's some you know you've heard this from others but we're like you know at micro city so we have a lot of infrastructure needs the funding there is not real funding there to support like like educational I mean uh recreational areas unless it's from like open space or CPC and this does not qualify for one of one of those areas so um we're kind of stuck between a rock in a hard place with how do we you know how do we move forward and and getting some life into this project um that doesn't fall on the burden of our our taxpayers completely the project has gone new codes have increased the project it went from $1 million before covid to $3.4 million now because you have new plumbing codes and building you know building codes and so it's only going to get more and more um we have designs so yeah essentially we just need con you know some leeway to get some construction money and um and just so that it doesn't all fall on the taxpayers to really carry the the entire weight um so that's one area that you know we're looking to see how we can get some some assistance with Hillary um I just wanted to add on for the bleachers that I think sometimes when like we're first thinking about the bleachers and the grand scheme of things they don't necessarily seem as important as things like the educational needs and the equity pieces but um they they are a selling point for kids and they when they are condemned and the kids can't sit on them and they look awful um that has an impact on the kids and so when we're because the funding is tied to the kids that we can keep in town um I know like I drive past schools with my child and she's like what school is this I want to go here look at those fields those fields are so nice baches and you know 14-year-olds don't necessarily think about the same things we think about so to them they're like this school looks really nice because the bleachers in the field and all that and you know the leading to you know having the bleaches there and having all the kids come to the football games and have a like I think it helps their self-esteem and it helps the socialization and it's not just a matter of you know having a place for parents to sit watching the games it it has a bigger impact Absol I appreciate saying that yeah it really does Hillary too and I think what we've already heard from our student reps is that um because there's not a lot of capacity to to sit and that we're seeing participation going to the games drop down which means less Revenue oh yeah um so there's this trickle down you know impact because nobody wants to be bringing their own chairs all the time you know you do have there's no ADA compliance that's the other piece too is that the bleachers were not ada8 compliant before we need to have them to accommodate our older population as well restrooms is also part of this larger product it just isn't about bleachers it's about making accessibility walkways that are coming from Great Road into Alumni field there's restrooms that will be built um for this just to make it a very um useful area that could actually be a revenue draw you know if we're able to rent out the space then people will more likely come you know to Manor and stay in Manor to go shopping you know go downtown maybe or go because it's such a walkable town but we need to actually get people to come here um to do that and so that would be you know grandparents relatives are part of those people who might you know spend so it's kind of like a a catch22 right if you build it they will come that's I think what we're hoping for but right we need to actually find a way to invest in it to to get that draw excitement back because there's not a lot of opportunities for kids our youth right now um to go places and that's one of the the few places that they can they have historically been able to rely on that are safe supervised yeah it's also an area that's sort of unfair in terms of funding because at the last the Springtown meeting aset um put forth creating basically a savings account for facilities and they're able to just create a savings account put in their budget the line item to fund this the account to pay for facilities talk about as because I have worry so hold on there Hillary like we would do great with aach yeah has a gorgeous field I know yeah before before moving mov on though just I wanted to just give everyone an opportunity to see if there's any more feedback or questions about the bleachers um Alexis did you have any thoughts or anything to add Mary just the fact that we've already invested what about $500,000 to get us point so a lot has been invested in it to you know to try and push it over the the goal poost but um haven't been able to yeah and then we have the new school so that was that's the other parts we had a lot of these projects that are just infrastructure that are going on the DPW garage that the town is the senior center the bleachers tends to fall continuously at the bottom every year and it doesn't get any cheaper so um and it doesn't have a lot of opportunities for grant funding either like some of the other places that can pursue Brian yeah I was just going to say the bleachers are sort of super special in mayard and more so than maybe some other uh school systems partly because that's one of the our band goes to and the other thing that the bleachers hold is the Press Box which as you know our chapter 74 wavm program they need that that's one of the areas and that's sort of programmatically it's part of what they do um so it's a combination of school programming and after school Community cable Access TV as well so it works for both the school and the town together so if there's any funding out there any support that you can find um within the legislature to help help us out that would be fabulous cuz it really is important to not just you know people think bleachers and they think students want to sit at a game and they do don't get me wrong and we have a great fan base and it's a lot of games it's girl you know I was at girl soccer tonight they won by the way they're going on to the next the next level um the boys are in the middle of their first round I don't know what that score is yet um so it's more than just six football games it's football it's field hockey it's girl soccer it's boy soccer it's and I can go on and on on but it's a centerpiece for the town and you know it when you drive by it it's at that intersection I mean that has the opportunity to be a phenomenal facility and exactly sort of a pro and con of the plumbing codes changing and they did they changed in December which is why the price sort of doubled that's actually almost okay because it forces us to build restrooms not a bad thing so we don't have to have porta-potties we can have um accessible ad compliant restrooms a concession stand and bleachers and we have a field with lights and a scoreboard It's a Wonderful facility needs a little help with the bleachers we need some funding support there because we've asked a lot of the town and I will say the town has stepped up big I mean we are super excited for the Green Meadow so I don't want to take that away they came out in numbers and we will have a brand new Elementary School a relatively new high school and not too old of a middle school a fer school so in terms of the buildings great news the bleachers we need a little help there to sort of make it the full package and then it the rental income will roll in as well it's it'll be beautiful we just have to get there so I just wanted to put the plugin for the kids the programming and the town kind of wrap that all up it is important to us and it is it is almost it's more we keep getting um pigeon H hold into it's all about the schools but it really is a community it's more of a recreation type of thing so if you if there's any funding like in that Direction versus in the schools um because there is Youth Sports also there's the youth football there's the youth soccer so it's not just the schools it's the young kids that are participating so that that field is being used all the time you go by on a Saturday morning and it is jam-packed we've got the Boy Scouts that do their parade and then they all end up there doing you know their Innings and stuff it's and plus the Boys and Girls Club uses it so it really is more what we've really been trying to emphasize it's more townwide use and more Recreation it is just pigeon hold into the schools so thank you um Emily I know that you're our student R and I just wanted to give you a moment before moving on because I think we've been talking about students and impact but I know that you've you've heard feedback from the high school directly um through the sack and I didn't know if you had any other comments or thoughts to share that maybe we or to emphasize more that we maybe didn't articulate as nicely as you would have um I just want to say personally Al the bleacher project is something I don't think a single student in the school disagrees with at all it was something when brought up to sa When Miss York mentioned it everyone was really ecstatic we were all super happy because the bleachers have been an ongoing issue for a while there's always some controversy about it and every single time someone brings up the bleacher project there's always always a little bit of you know kind of bittersweetness because it didn't pass and um I will say it is very useful for the student sections which I like huge section student support you know everyone shows up to the games the soccer games right now my friend sent me a picture everyone is there supporting you know even with those bleachers and I think if we could get kind of just a bigger area you know make it look more inviting those bleachers are old they're moldy you know you can't even go near them without someone telling you hey maybe we shouldn't go over there um it's it's not I wouldn't say it's like uninviting but it definitely does kind of throw it off a bit if we could have something new you know bathrooms as well um I I it would be amazing for the students and I have friends in wavm as well um which was mentioned they also just as much as anyone else they would love to see you know that area fixed I have a friend who's filming actually right now for the um soccer game and he was talking to me about it today he was like yeah it's really uncomfortable I was like it must really suck you know and I I I'm just I'm I'm really glad it's getting talked about again you know and I I really hope we can finally push it forward and you know find the funding for it thank you Emily um so I think that the um Senator Alward just one more topic we wanted to I have a quick set but mine will be one so do vocational first um yeah so a as AIT um so as we're um we're going through our budget process and we've seen this over the past couple of years as AIT um their um enrollment like our our student pop isn't increasing over there but our assessment or their assessment to our town is going up significantly um we're seeing percentage wise seven and a half 8% that is needing to go towards their budget and that is in addition to this new funding of adding capital and we don't really have a lot of say in you know denying that as one town um or what we can do not to mention that the funding that they're able to do so last year we realized um like transportation for one they um are able to fund Transportation entirely out of the budget parents don't have to pay a penny and they're provide regional transportation we as a as a district can't do that um they also have an afternoon bus that can support students that can bring we you know we're not able to do that unless we pass the cost on to you know our um our families and so now it's becoming a real um um a real shift in equity for you know how we're we're needing the way the funding mechanism works or the formula to uh to fund assabet um to meet their needs and they're getting also less out of District students out of for their so they used to get like their I guess their version of school choice right is a town that's not one of their core towns would pay they did let us know last year that they have no more like it's only their core town so they're losing a revenue source which means they're putting us on notice that our the assessments are going to go up because now they're getting fewer choiced in from out of district and so as we're talking about funding and education funding they're also able to fund positions that we can't for our own you know athletic director which is um I mean athletic uh trainer which is one that we continuously they're able to just build that and they just assess it so we it feels as though we there's again this sh sh where we kind of have to automatically fund what that is required but it comes really at the sacrifice and the cost of what Manor students are able to do and it's not even programmatically necessarily for you know votech opportunities we're talking about because that is certain that we would never really be able to you know shop but it is more about just the funding percentage and mechanism that we're seeing now that they're growing well above what our town is able to fund us on percentage level um for for and our chapter and and it goes back to Chapter 70 we've seen over the past I was looking at the numbers the past four uh four or five years the Chapter 70 has been flat um for for you know coming to mayard um at one point it was at least going up like 100 to 200,000 maybe a year um I think over four years it maybe went $100,000 total um so it's you know we're kind of we're kind of burning the wick at both ends our expenses of you know of what we're needing to pay out actually we had few we have a fewer student who went to assabet and then they're charging their assessment went up more so we're paying more even if less students so we're not even student retention isn't even helping us pay pay less as a town for that so I guess this is where again kind of comes up to mayard is when we think about the chap the student Opportunity Act I know there was this option for um um some subcommittee that was supposed to be for formed or was something something in the legislation for towns that were not like kind of like mayor that weren't benefiting there was supposed to be some group or something that would convene to reassess um the fund formula bring back commission yep yes the commission so that but I how do we really address all of these things that are just kind of and again this forces us to go to our residents who are already um you know our seniors to now ask for an education over Vari for are operating because we have no Revenue sources that are coming in because it's still highly residential population not a lot of the growth the um New Growth every year is not really more than 350,000 um and so now we're finding ourselves even to just level service not even to acrease staff just for basic needs for our special education our e everything we're not able to support that anymore um and our town isn't able to give us the funding so I we just it's really coming to a head all these things are happening simultaneously um Alexis did you want to add or say anything no I think you captured it all Mary just one more note about the Chapter 70 and this was brought to my attention that um mayard for FY 24 um we received $456 per student and Clinton who I look at is similar to demographics in that they have a bigger population but because they are receiving three times the amount of Chapter 70 money they are receiving 9,368 per student go figure you know I just the it's another inequity I unless somebody can explain to me why um they I think that and I disagree I agree with you that meard get needs more funding but I I think probably the demographics in Clinton it's a much poorer Town yeah it's a very high poverty l yeah I think that's the part with Maynard like we you know not that I ever you know but we're not diverse enough we're not below the poverty line or you know enough we're we're right at that cusp but then we don't have like when I think about the asit funding and I don't really yes um I know that there is some formulaic piece that I've heard Ernie the superintendent over there mention um that looks at the surrounding districts as well it's some type of and I don't know if that works again against us because we you know if they come to this for if the formula is really set up to look at Regional like it looks at the the cost or associated with regional placement versus um that would be I'm curious about that part as well because if we are um you know clearly we're not going to be uh regionally competitive with revenues for our neighboring towns but I know that there is there are some State formulas that do look at um where you are regionally to you know to calculate like what they feel might be medium cost or or certain to those extents so I'd be curious on how votch funding um where we might be able to impact or where we might be at a deficit to the current Formula that's being um how how desie determines that because it just seems very interesting how we can no matter what our enrollment is we're still going up higher even if our students are going lower and it feels like we're never going to be able to to you know to be stay above water with that type of um you know mechanism there's something wrong there it tells me for sure absolutely yep so um that's really all that I I had and I want to go over Brian is there any kind of closing thoughts that you wanted to to share with Senator elt no Senator I appreciate you being here and hearing hearing our concerns around increasing numbers at amsa and around Chapter 70 funding and again in all seriousness it sounds like it's probably loow hanging fruit but those bleachers are really really important yeah to as you heard from one of our students but for the town and schools as a whole the bleachers as well so any support you can give or uh would be appreciated so thank you very much for being here no thank you so much these are such important issues and I I will look into them and and followup is there um who should I be getting back to directly is it uh you superintendent or the chair or what what should I do I think if you maybe my Mary and I are on the budget subcommittee we kind of talk a lot about the same things um and we can certainly Loop Brian in as well because he's you know as we're planning for different projects and the override that will be helpful um that might be my first thought if that's okay with you sure yeah absolutely yeah so get working on this and try to get some interest in about two weeks I didn't know if Chuck might have a closing thought he looked like he might want to say something but maybe I'm reading into it no yes uh I just you know again I guess my my closing thing goes all the way back to amsa at the beginning and I was reflecting on when Charter Schools began and the charge was to serve underserved communities in model practices and now we're thir years later the amsa population is probably the opposite of underserved and they're modeling nothing and they're seeking more seats I it's mindboggling to me that in 30 years it it's as if the world has turned upside down in that regard yeah very well said thank you so much for having me really appreciate it for the time hopefully we're not you late for your next Zoom meeting yeah no thank you very much always no these discussions always take take a while but this is really thank you for the feedback really appreciate it so I will be in touch thank you right thank you have a good evening okay good luck the rest of your meeting take care thanks thank you okay that was wonderful um was great yeah yeah I I feel like um he had a lot of notes so that was yeah right hopefully uh and I'm sure with that he probably will share some things with um representative Hogan so she has a little bit of context on some of the questions that we have I sort of gave him a guideline anyway but yeah yeah that would be great um all right so now moving on to uh our student representative report Emily the floor is yours Emily thank you for hanging in yes thank you so I I feel so bad I realized halfway through like oh we didn't give you a heads up that we were kind of moving things so my apologies for not um but hopefully you appreciated hearing you know no not at all I I thought that was really cool I was shocked I was really surprised and it was like awesome because you know that's a big I don't know I thought that was a really big opportunity just to be able to listen in on a conversation like that so so November our next school committee meeting we're going to have representative Hogan there we're probably going to do something similar just so you give you a heads up put her a little bit more at the top but if you or anybody in the sack just think of the questions and the things that we talked about um you know feel free to when we kind of pivot to you for some feedback feel free to share a couple of thoughts again okay yeah of course thank you for your feedback from you okay well for the student report we have some highlights the reward day was very successful people love the choices again and the Break um because there was actually a lot of pressure from term one at near the nearing the end uh the Clinton game senior night football went very well no issues with the band no issues with the the students there was a little bit of complaining um towards the end about the Clinton parents but that was resolved easily there was a definite Improvement In Crowd Behavior even though we lost soccer boys and girls are in the second round of the playoffs tonight boys are up one currently and the girls won their game um 1 to zero CPR training was successful and all of this year's freshmen are now trained as well as the upper classman who signed up and the staff upcoming this weekend is Veterans Day weekend so we do have Monday off Spirit Week starts on November 20th everyone is looking forward to the theme days and the Thanksgiving pep rally people are already raving about the lip syns and the outfits and it's a really exciting atmosphere and we're very hopeful that our soccer and football teams have a few more playoff games um because the students have been starting to get amped up again and the um crowd behavior is just looking up um one of the major issues that we were discussing in Sac was that the Chromebooks are very buggy due to the fact that before people were able to use their phones and because of you know mobile data people kind of were using them more independently I should say but because it's all being used in more I should say larger amounts the Wi-Fi is being used up a lot and a lot of people um I've had I think it was three people complain to me about how they couldn't finish their assignment on time and they had to appeal to a teacher about it because the Wi-Fi was just unbelievably slow and pages keep refreshing on their own I was was writing an essay actually and thankfully I copy and paste my essays because I've had this experience before but it refreshes and sometimes you lose your work and it can be really frustrating but that's about all we've been discussing so far Google I know Mary Mary probably has a few choices gated I heard her as soon as she was saying that I saw head going she she felt that she felt that to her core I curse it every time I have to go research something um R did you have any other questions or feedback or thoughts for just um just so that's concerning because it's preventing you guys from being as efficient as you can so what are they talking about for a remedy I mean our new technology director I'm sure he's involved in that but um so we've been taking a the best option they've proposed so far was simply talking to the tech department on working out how to make the Bugs run smoother um but if it doesn't improve we might have to look at a bigger solution but we haven't even gotten to the stage of you know having that conversation with the tech department we were actually going to call them into our next meeting we don't know how that's going in the works that's more with Miss York and Miss doov but hopefully we'll be seeing some improvements soon okay so they're well aware of it so I'm sure that they're talking to them all right that's it thank you and Brian maybe if you can put a know like um we can maybe get an update in our our report for the end of the week from what what kind of is the the context of the impact of the prome books and like is this like a larger District LEL just like seniors yeah exactly just um just curious about how far or how big this issue is if it's and it could be bandwidth I mean other schools are having similar issues with bandwidth because we've gone from you used to read a book or write on paper and now everything is online in math in English in lots of disciplines maybe not all but many many more than there used to be and all the curriculum is online so bandwidth is an issue so I whether or not the tech Department's been involved yet or not I'm not sure I'll follow up and this your and update you next week thank you great thank you and I know we did a lot of funding not that long ago but maybe when Co start was about like bandwidth and and stuff um so I'm curious if that has just maybe hit the new cap and we're still needing to do something more um but it'll be yeah it'll be just interesting we'll look forward to some more context on that and that as well great um um Hillary any any questions or thoughts no no thank you okay Alexis nope thank you for your report tonight okay um Emily I just also just thank you you thank you for your patience with that I know when technology fails and um it fails terribly and especially when you put a lot of work into something and you're just um oh Alexa started talking to me because I said your name Alexa sorry um um so anyway but just thank you for for keeping on that and keep us updated as well if there's some type of you know in investment thing that we need to consider um certainly would like to Lear more about it okay but that's it wonderful thank you so much again and then just a plan for the our next meeting we are going to be going back to um hybrid so I know that you predominantly are you know remote in which is totally fine so we'll have that option as well but we will have again Senator uh I mean representative Hogan joining us so we'll have you know put her towards the front of the agenda again so but you'll have a chance to speak with her okay thank you so much you have a wonderful evening and you're also welcome to hang out but if not good luck with all of your activities and the high school stuff that's happening with the sports as well thank you thank you um so Brian now we are on to the superintendent uh report so I can tell you let's see the Green Meadow Elementary School building project is continuing on going well um the ledge blasting is continuing they're um breaking down the boulders in the back I don't know if anybody had a chance to walk around yet if not I would do it sooner rather than later it's still kind of warm and not too nasty out there yet it's going to get cold it's going to get snowy and then it might not be as fun to walk around but you're all adults you can do what you like um we meet every week however just a caveat because I did not do this and um tell me because I was goingon to go last week the principal called me out on it course it was an early release so I was okay but she asked if if you are going to walk around while school session just with her just so saying there's somebody out there and you can walk around the entire building it's very very cool so try and do that soon that would be great uh the district participated in purple pinky day again this year and raised $425 but with the Gates Foundation contribution on a two to1 basis it really turned out to be just under $1,300 so again we were able to participate and I think think everybody had a great time with that for a good cause um a group of our freshmen were actually at jillette today it's a long day for some of our kids and our athletic director and principal who are also at J today um for the Sportsman um ceremony if you will so we had Four Freshmen down there who created a multimedia Public Service Announcement uh so it was the MIAA sportsmanship contest and they actually won first place and they showed theirs uh their their announcement and apparently there's a lot of sessions down there where the kids work together kids from different school systems um and it was really well attended and our freshman uh did well and uh were awesome representatives for Maynard high school and Maynard and the town of mayard um upcoming the on November 21st and 22nd is the fall play when bad things happen to good actors I have no idea what that's going to be about but it's probably going to be good um it's live entertainment how bad can it be come on I think it'll be fabulous our kids do a great job and usually the fall play is you don't know what you're going to get whereas the spring is a musical and you've seen Annie you know what you're in for and it was good um but I would highly recommend either the 21st or 22nd of November if you can make it um that would be great uh we had a full PD day which isn't actually in my report so I don't know why I'm talking about that CU I saw a data PD from Friday from Fowler when we they did something on the release day um but I think I did update you on the PD that we had our first full day that went well actually that was in the memo um it's still under the same topic of professional development we had a lot of uh different sessions we did a survey afterward got good feedback um and it's a and it's a challenge to find useful and effective professional development for the wide range of staff so it's one thing to find it like for example we had people come from carangi math they got great reviews um did a fabulous job for our Math teachers vertical team alignment and whatnot so that's a core group um the seizure training fabulous for all the people but then you know sometimes It's tricky to find good quality PD for the computer science teacher or the nurses or a guidance counselor so we did but overall it was very successful it was a great day a lot of learning happened uh and from the survey people were satisfied with that not to say we can't make improvements year to year but it was good um the Green Meadow Autumn Walk I don't know if anybody had the opportunity to go a whole bunch of us from central office walked over to watch the little kids walk around um they walk around the circle and they kind of walk close to the playground and then back up and in and they're adorable it's all of them in line with their teacher and there's a wide wide wide range of costumes from from avocados to dinosaurs to our very standard Cowboys police fire athletes you name it um tons of fun and who would have thought you'd be in like shorts and t-shirt on Halloween it was warm it was beautiful day um so lots of good things happening uh across the board very exciting I also included a couple of a memo from asid Valley which just talked about uh the guidelines and collaborative law and what they offer um and same thing from uh case as well um case has actually expanded a little bit um similar to what aset does offering professional development to school systems and mentoring and induction programs so in addition to sort of the standard collaborative what you think about in terms of education for students with significant needs they're also branching out because they want to be financially solvent and these are opportunities that as we just talked about for teachers really hard to find quality PD for these Niche type jobs um so they're offering that and so that's exciting on both esid Valley and Case Case is a little bit newer at it um but we're excited for both that's what I have for you today I don't I know that the mcast maps present is probably sort of digs deeper into the curriculum piece the PD that I'm talking about is kind of higher level um I just will go around and see if anyone has any questions or comments or thoughts uh Mary yeah just um regarding the case in the aset so are they available to our teachers to our staff and will they come to us or do our staff have to go to them and so for for I know for sure for aset it's more of a cohort that they set up and our staff would go to them okay but they could they could participate absolutely none of it's free right I figured that yeah I was gonna ask and then I figured no it's I think we get the so what we do get is we get the member discount price oh okay it's sort of like for our kids that attend those collaboratives they get the member price as opposed to the non-member price so it's a little bit better okay um okay thank you and our truth be told our teachers are probably inundated right now with PD opportunities between a new literacy curriculum and a new math curriculum and just everything from desie I don't know that there's a lot of capacity right now for some for sort of the content Area Teachers right now but I would encourage anybody and everybody excellent thank you Alexis nope I don't have any questions okay Hillary NOP good thank you you're welcome um and Brian same I don't have any questions at all but just well I do actually take that back one question um with case expanding as well do they need more space I don't know if that means that they're um so when I say expain they've they're not I maybe I wasn't clear they're not expanding their programming for students they're expanding the Avenue of PD where they're going out and offering things was sure they were I thought it was maybe both like they're expanding okay so they're expanding like their service offering it sounds like corre better way to say it got it so their enrollment necessarily is an expanding where they might need space okay got it what do we what do they use right now for how many rooms do you know I I see keth I think they two rooms at Fowler and then one is that all like for some reason I thought we had three between the school system but they pulled one out in the last couple years they've tried to consolidate really for their own financial means so they have the coldbrook school they conquered an Acton for the most part I think they pull one program out of mayard and one program or two or all out of Littleton because they were trying to consolidate okay all right personal they like us they actually have five spaces at in some way shape or form at Fowler okay not full classrooms but spaces great um for me my like phone guys on the phone see that KK K Kenny iPhone I don't even have to like call my friend or like ring a friend it up yeah thank you you thought it he was there that's it thank you um all right I don't have anything else for that so we'll go ahead and um uh move on to the um mcast Maps update and this Chuck that's gonna be Chuck he should be able to unmute and share I hope yes uh good evening everyone um I'll be talking just a little bit about uh the mcast administration that was done in the spring and uh also taking a look at how that um kind of lines up with our map uh assessments that we're now using um and uh just a little bit about um how attendance impacts all of that as well so I'm going to be uh sharing uh you hopefully can see my screen at this point yes see by the way chck while you're doing that thank you for a very well put well a nice a great statement about um about the chat schools I think that was great for um Senator Eldridge to hear yeah it's it's it's very strange to see a school that's essentially as a cherry-picked population um getting more funding I it's it almost is a formula to expand gaps and inequities Statewide uh rather than narrow them which was the original charter school mission so uh we'll we'll see what happens I'm sure the uh uh lobbying efforts by the charter school Lobby will be in play as as well and they'll spin things a entirely different way but I think it needed to be said so um having said that uh like to move into a little bit about um uh let's see if I can are you able to read that whole block or yep okay uh good um I just wanted to open up the whole presentation with a a note about attendance um you'll see in the ne in a following couple of slides graphically what our attendance has done actually over the last 10 years and also um a a sort of a blow up of uh just last year's uh attendance rates compared to the state and uh with our high needs students compared to State high needs students um we've put a lot of effort into uh improving student attendance over the last three years uh to give you some idea we uh three years ago really started tracking attendance closely in each building uh we've always done that but uh you know went to a weekly basis uh guidance counselors and uh administrators were trying to contact students and families to stress the importance of uh School attendance of course coming out of covid that was challenging but we're a few years past Co now and and last year the state offered a grant for example that we uh took advantage of uh came out relatively late in the year it actually came out very late in the year and we were really able to get started in about after April vacation trying to really reach out to students who had been chronically absent this included setting up meetings with families um it included home visits in some cases uh it it included starting to check in with students on a daily basis in uh in some instances um and the teams we put together we put together a team at each building and it was a cross-section of Staff members it the teams weren't identical in buildings but we had uh some of our school secretaries involved we had guidance counselors involved we had administrators teachers pair of professionals just uh people who were uh unusually good at um uh relationships with students and really had the pulse on on attendance the goal last year for the last couple months of school was to try to get students who hadn't been engaged re-engaged kind of back in the habit of coming to school the grant extended through September 30th of this year so we really did a full court press in September uh to try to make sure that you you know when a student was absent once it wasn't just a robo call it was a call call from a human being um and you know if a student was absent twice in the first couple of weeks of school you know the the uh contact increased even more and so far this year we've we've really seen an an improvement in attendance so uh so this year is already going better than even last year uh this graph is the 10-year attendant rate um for the mayor Public Schools versus the state as a whole um you can see that 2015 16 17 18 mayard is above 95% ATT tenants on a daily basis uh which is about a percentage Point higher than the state as a whole Statewide there was a big decline in attendance in 2019 this is the year before Co um there was that year I I spoke to uh Janet Lamey who was on our nursing staff at that time she recalled there was a number of circulating viruses that year that dropped attendance all over the state Maynard's attendance though dropped even further um as you can see in a small District could that be that those viruses circulated in our we only have three buildings a little harder it's possible but then in 2020 which was the covid school year um and the little note at the bottom you'll see that in 2020 attendance data shared by the state with us stopped basically the day before school shut down for covid so that's really not year end it's it's more like March we came up as the state came up but we still didn't get to the state level 2021 we dropped way below the state level um and then you see the last three years where we've really you know 2021 I think was a wakeup call for the district and we really put an emphasis on communicating with families about the importance of School attendance and we've rebounded back to 94% at the close of last year um and again this year first quarter of this year seems to be running above 95% at this point um so we're we're hopeful that that trend line keeps going up and I'm not sure if we'll I'm going to be really honest I'm not sure if we're ever going to get back to consistently between 95 and 96% because there is different messaging now about going to school um if you're not feeling well when I was a boy to sound kind of old but you know you know if you had a sniffle this kind of the school advice the parent was advised oh suck it up and go to school I think uh the message now is if you're not feeling well you know stay home get better for a couple days then come to school and and there's a lot of good sense behind that too so again I think that's the new Norm too because um as actually had was thinking about this like not until last year we still had different CDC guidance as well so we had where you know they were still saying you know kind of stay home for a little bit until your fever passed and stuff and then and then it's starting to get better but I think there's more awareness of communicable you know infection and stuff so I don't know if we're ever going to be like to the 95 I wonder if that's ever going to be a new Norm again you know but obviously I I think you know I think we want to stay above the state average if at all possible and we want our Trend you know even if it starts to turn you inflect after this year at you know 94 a half% or something like that I think you'll see the entire State inflect at the same time on on a graph so uh it it is heartening though to see that you know our numbers have bounced back and you know we're we're we're getting pretty good attendance rates again uh this next slide will kind of break things out uh the state is in the sort of uh aqua color teal color mayard of course as always is an orange at the uh at the top we're comparing the total maner numbers against the total State numbers um so this is all students you can see that we're a percentage Point ahead of the state in attendance average number of absences per student District worldwide is 10.4 the state was 12.3 I I think the interesting categories to really focus on is are The Chronic and kind of super chronic categories um 10% absence is 18 absences in a school year and if you think about that that means the student is out twice a twice a month basically you know kind of for round figures um the 20% level the kind of super chronic students they're really missing four times a month or or just about a day a week is is what that works out to um and uh you know it's it's good that we're below the state in those categories but 15.4% and 3.5% are students that are going to have a great deal of difficulty keeping up academically and uh we really want to drive those numbers as as as low as humanly possible and again I not again but I really want to emphasize on an individual student basis a student might have a circumstance in a given year where they have an unusually high number of absences they have a surgery an injury an illness there's a really unfortunate set of circumstances uh with families you know possibly multiple deaths in a family in a year or something like that we're not you know our our building administrators and and folks really keep tabs on what's going on with students we're not harassing or going after students and families that have unusual circumstances that we can document but for students who are absent 20% of the time and you start to see that pattern forming over multiple years and there is limited documentation about why there I I think those are are students that are in danger of not completing high school for example and we're very interested as we sort of uh increase our Outreach as to why that is is it a transportation issue are is there need for some sort of wraparound service around counseling or health care and our guidance counselors and and school folks are getting much better at reaching out to families to say are there barriers which are creating a circumstance why you're chronically absent and can the district help you know uh remove or amarate some of those barriers so it's you know we're we're we're really not interested in in you know um I don't know what words you'd want to use shaming people and chastising them right threatening people we're we're much more interested in trying to identify the factors that are contributing to those circumstances and trying to help families uh work work to remove those uh barriers um the last the the two lower categories are State high needs students versus mayard high needs students uh again you'll see across the board mayard is uh uh showing up in a better position than than the state in terms of high need students to high need students but you can also see where gaps you know overall in mayard it's 94% high need students are 92% and those attendance gaps I I believe as we start to talk about achievement data and and assessment data you know those gaps in attendance contribute to gaps in performance as well students are just in school less um and it's not a lot less but it's less um so you know as we talk about closing achievement gaps I think we're also talking about closing attendance gaps which means we're also talking about uh going all the way back to identifying what barriers families are are dealing with and and trying to help them with those barriers uh so I just wanted to with some attendance information um and and you know just reinforce that it really does um impact uh student achievement and learning as well uh moving forward now we're going to start getting into uh actual student achievement um I've uh grouped the data uh I'll show you in the next slide something very interesting about just how much data you can access through through desie um but we've uh we're going to be looking at a group of slides that covers grades 3 to eight in ela for openers um because these slides do group groups three to eight and and I didn't want to have just slide after slide after slide I do want to make a quick note that grade eight actually showed notable growth this year um and performed uh well above State achievement levels uh but both in our uh and it shows up in the map data as well as the mcast data so I just want to say that grade 8 had a very strong year um I also can I ask a clarifying question that's that's the current that's last year's grade eight right current current grade nine right right current grade n okay um so uh moving to the next slide this is a a slide from desie it shows grades the uh nice colorful graphs are the grades 3 to eight data um group together and you can see that compared to the state data uh rather than show you slide after slide after slide I would point out that even on this single slide below the colorful graphs where they're all the black columns every single grade and subject is listed there numerically um and I do have a desie the link to the Desi website where you can access this in the last slide you can click on any one of those many uh bolded black categories and you would get the colorful graph for that grade and subject would then pop up at the top so if you clicked on grade three Ela the colorful graphs would be our grade three versus is the state in ela so there are probably a couple dozen slides right there that you can access also just using this as sort of guidance on the leftand portion of the slide sort of the upper left corner you'll notice all these blue uh uh listed categories it's uh uh things like uh oh annual comparisons you can look at graphs year toe grade by grade you can look at mcass alt performance you can look at mcast item results by each grade and subject so you get these gigantic spreadsheets um you can look at the data by um various student groups and I do have a slide with that following with student groups so there's probably another several hundred slides you can access right there in combination with the black grade level slides and then at the top across the entire top you'll see uh General students teachers Finance assessments currently currently bolded because I'm in the assessment section then there's accountability data and trending and dart data if you go across the top you will get a whole bunch of additional information and many of those have their very own blue sidebar that you can look at in multiple ways so I don't think I'm overstating when I say there's probably in the neighborhood of a thousand or more various slides that you could look at um if you go to the link at the end of the presentation and poke around so I think for the purposes of a 15 20 minute presentation I won't show you a thousand slides um so uh that that that might be uh a little tedious so what I'm trying to give you is some representative samples today um the next slide I have is grade 3 to8 but this is broken out by student groups so just uh to point out some information on on this slide um as you move across you know you start on the left hand side and you can identify a student group and you work your way across and it tells you the number of students included the particip ATI rate how many were ex uh exceeded met partially met or uh did not meet um standard um and uh and then uh there's a scaled score what I want to point out is really across the board the students not meeting standards in these groups is substantially in almost every case lower than State levels of students not meeting standards the one I really want to point out is when you see high needs this is all of the students and all of the uh categories group together so this is El students lowincome students students on IEPs they're they're grouped together so when you see that high needs number and it says 29 perent 29% of the 232 High need students we have is about 69 students at the at in grades 3 to8 that works out to about 11 students per grade that are not currently meeting standards on mcast um the reason I like to point that one out is the numbers don't appear to add up if you don't keep that in mind um and that is because students a single student can be in more than one category so if you start working out the percentages you'd say well there's 18 in this category and 41 in that category and 52 in this category and all of a sudden it's like wow we have 130 students who are underperforming and um it's like no uh it's because some students are counting in two and three categories so the the high needs C category and this is true again if you went and clicked if you scrolled through uh the slides available here you could look at this grade byg grade subject by subject so you could see how are our high need students doing specifically in grade three specifically in ela and specifically in math and then you can go to grade four and do the same thing and grade five to do the same thing and again I'm not going to do that because it would be just a jillion slides in this presentation um and what I'm going to do is is let you know that there are some general trends that we we notice as we look through some of the key categories the last thing I'm going to show you is uh map data that we've amassed this is the Fowler School I just couldn't figure out how to get grade three in here to go with like the grades three to eight um but this is grades four to eight um what we see is that growth uh across the Fowler School is at the 47th percentile nationally I guess you'd say pretty much in the middle of the pack our achievement is higher than uh students across the United States um that probably has to do with things like home factors in mayard uh the kinds of exposure that our students have broadly as an entire group compared to maybe uh other parts of the country so what what I do notice though is the map data pretty much backs up the mcast data our students are doing a bit better than the state um our achievement levels if you map them against mcast are better than the state so this is a way to let us know that the map data actually is aligning with the mcast data pretty closely but what map data gives us that mcass doesn't give us is mcass is a postmortem test I don't care what the state says it is in no way a formative assessment for the individual student the student takes it in the fall they don't get their results sometimes for four or five months the teachers don't get the results for four or five months there's no way that they can take that data and work with the students sitting in front of them for a really long time sometimes the students change buildings you know you think about the third graders moving to the fourth grade the eighth graders moving to the ninth grade you know you're the students aren't even in the same environment anymore they're not experiencing any of the same teachers anymore so the mcast data is given way too late in the year to be effective and it doesn't really um give us the sorts of actionable data that map does our students take map at the beginning of the year it uh their new teacher can see that data I think I've pointed out in a previous school committee uh meeting if a teacher goes to their class and clicks on the Red Band for their class uh they can see by student name who's in the blue band who's in the green band down to the Red Band um and within those they can see the particular areas the students are doing relatively better in the particular areas the students need additional support you get none of that from mcast in real time with the students you're actually working with in your classroom so I would argue we you know the mcast data certainly tells you something about overall performance over time map data lets you do something about student performance in real time and when the students take it again in the middle of the year the the teachers can see have the techniques I've been using with a particular student been working uh are their scores improving or do I need to kind of kind of rethink this also the map tested geared to be about an hour long unlike mcast which is a whole day so although it seems like oh that's a lot of testing it's more like you know what people in the field call dipstick testing you know it's a it's a shorter but very effective measure of where are the kids right now to help inform uh teachers instruction going forward so uh we're very um pleased to see that map lines up with mcast but also allows us to do much more than we can do with mcast uh moving ahead uh I did break out mayard High School separately um grades uh nine for Science and uh 10 for English and math uh I think you'll recall that not too long ago that the state actually singled out mayard High School among a very small number of schools in the state um for mcast performance um and I'm gonna uh show you some of that right now here's e Ela um with mayard versus the state you'll notice that the kids not meeting expectations are very small numbers um 7% compared to the state and you'll notice that the students in the meeting and exceeding categories Maynard's at 67% the state's at 57% so it's not just a little above the state um 10 10% is really getting well above the state and it's uh also uh seen in the students not meeting um are half the rate of the state um moving into the by student group uh this is also interesting and it's part of why I think the state singled us out if you actually look at that high needs on the leftand side at the same one I pointed out in the grades 3 to8 slide if you go over and you see that not meeting uh High need students we have uh six we have 27 High need students 19% of them aren't meeting are at the not meeting 19% of 27 is five there are five students that uh at mayard high school that weren't making the kind of progress that we would like to see that means those students are known by name interventions are happening right now to support those students with additional supports uh because we want to get those students not just the mcast score but we want to make sure that their their basic literacy is strong enough for them when they graduate from high school to move on and and be successful so one of the main reasons mayor high school was recognized this year is because the students in high needs categories were way ahead of the state in most categories um again there are clearly our gaps we clearly want to continue to narrow those gaps but um that's a demonstration of uh how effective we've been uh you can see in the achievement scores in ela we're we're well ahead in achievement we'd like the growth to be a little bit higher um I'd like to move into uh math um here are math mcast results by student group um again here uh we start to get to staggering differences compared to the state 64% of our uh students are in the meet are exceeds and meets categories compared to 48% in the state at 16% ahead in the categories we really want to see our students you can see that uh 5% of our students aren't meeting um math targets compared to the states 13% almost three times as many so that's uh you know a real a very strong result and again when you get to the students by group if you look at that high needs Target um is this that's Ela I went I went in the wrong direction sorry Here Comes math Here Comes math if you look at that high needs group it's uh 26 students in that category who took the test 15% or not meeting that is four students in the entire high school and again we have identifi we we we know who these students are uh and we are targeting those students for additional math inter intervention um and the last item uh related to math is the map scores uh here you can see that the growth uh category for math is 76% it's almost into the Blue Zone that's overall growth and you can see that 47% of the students at mayard high school have reached the highest growth levels um in mathematics and you can also see that reflecting in the achievement scores that are um they were 71st percentile in the winter and it accelerated by the spring to the 78th percentile just outside the the Blue Zone so the performance in math in at mayard high school was really pretty extraordinary um and the final item I'm looking at here are our science results by group um in this case I almost couldn't believe the numbers when I first looked at it uh 72% of our students are meeting or exceeding science targets uh last year compared to 49% in the state and you can see that it's 7% of students are in that uh needs uh not meeting category which is the most concerning category um again when I looked at this by student group I went to that high needs Benchmark line it TW 24% of 21 students there were five uh students who did were in the uh not meeting category at mayard high school again being targeted for intervention so um this is sort of a highlevel look through grades 3 to 8 and through through the high school grades um and tests I think you can see that um again I I I toyed with breaking out the eth grade because eighth grade was actually kind of mirroring the high school as well just just so you know so I do want to give a shout out to the to the eth grade um so some conclusions uh once we've looked at the data uh we've worked really hard to improve attendance and I think we're starting to see results we've had some grades with terrific growth this year some grades have really popped up and I think if the attendance continues to be really strong year onye you're going to see additional grades start to pop up as well um another thing I want to point out is uh We've added new Ela and math curriculum in the last few years that was in response to previous data we were seeing I think we're starting to see the effects of that um for example uh math scores actually went up uh in the Fowler a bit and you'd say we didn't even have a curriculum how's that even possible when we piloted Carnegie last year uh we piloted it in I believe it was late February into March the teachers liked it so well they decided to continue with the pilot right through the end of the year that meant that those students had a coherent new math curriculum for almost half the school year and their growth in achievement kind of popped a little bit um in the second half of the year last year so that was a really heartening uh thing thing to see um another thing that occurs to me is uh we're currently undergoing a curriculum review process right now for our English learner uh our ESL curriculum we know that El students have been um one of the groups that uh has really um been challenged in terms of when we look at gaps and we want to uh make sure that they have the latest best materials possible we are um doing that curriculum review right now it's kind of an accelerated review we really want to have things in place by the end of this year uh this school year year for El curriculum um so we're working on that and I guess one of the uh final things I'd say and it didn't make this slide because I created this slide a few days ago uh the state had a uh ballot question uh two days ago and the mcast uh requirement for high school graduation uh is going to be going away um one thing that I want to let the public know and I think the school committee knows this mcast testing is not going away we are going to continue and the state is going to continue to require mcast testing from grades 3 to 10 in English and math and science in grades five8 and uh 9 or 10 or 11 depending on the science subject um so the test isn't going away the graduation uh gate is going away for for grade 10 I fully anticipate a dip in high school mcast scores next year uh I think everyone in the state is anticipating it uh By the time students are in high school they're young adults and if you tell them you're going to sit down and take an all day long test and by the way it's no longer a gatekeeper for your graduation um I think human nature is human nature and uh they're not going to be bearing down on test day like they have in the past so that's kind of maybe a little bit of bad news and that I think it's going to make the mcast data set more unpredictable for the next few years what I do want to point out is our map data has been very consistent um and I would argue that the map data is going to greatly increase in importance starting next year if you want to really have a sense of how students are doing these shorter multiple Administration tests uh that allow teachers to adjust instruction through the year is going to be a more effective Tool uh for us to take a look at um in the future and I'd also say that uh this was not in this presentation at all but we've also been working with with the education Commonwealth project for student and staff and now parent surveys um and we we're coming up on three years of data with that that we're going to have a couple of tools at our disposal in the district that we've already been using that are going to give us insights into how we're doing that I would argue are already Superior to mcast but they're going to be increasingly important at the high school level because we know that the student I mean I I don't think I'm making an unusual prediction that the students just aren't going to be going in with the same mindset uh to mcast next year as as they did in previous years so I'd like to close the uh presentation there there's the link to all those thousand or so slides that you can dig into if you want to and uh thank you very much for for hearing me out CH thank you so much um I know that we can get lost in the data um on the des's website so it's I love how they've also enhance the way that you can visually see it so I think that makes it a little bit more user friendly where you don't always have to download something to to kind of look at the data um which is great one thing I wanted to um ask um is that I notice the mcast under the ELA section um they have questions relating to writing so specifically like writing or like essays or things like that which I noticed the maps does not yes Maps is specifically for reading and it's reading and language us read language usage right but I wonder is there a way that Maps can capture that because I feel like that's where sometimes a student uh and I don't know if maybe this is one of the areas that we you know need to look at when we're trying to look at the mcast data as it Compares that's the piece that's not measured in maps but it is assessed in mcast so I have I've seen um you know my own family they've done great with a lot of the other parts but then the writing might be really low and unless you're looking at that particular line and the questions it can get lost but it does impact the overall score I don't know how our curriculum when I think about um what we're using if if it incorporates some of that writing pieces as well in um to the level that mcast is a not that I want to teach to the mcast but clearly they're assessing that that level of growth there and uh and it's not captured in in maps what are your thoughts on that so I I agree that uh if if there's a gap it's it it is spefic specifically in writing assessment I think the district's going to need to look at can we find either an an internal tool that we can use or do we look at mcast data as guidance on writing specifically um I think mcast in terms of writing does give a pretty accurate picture over time it's the same efficiency as the other sections of the test though it's it's always behind you're you're always working from behind with the actual student in front of you right but we should be able to match up the students you know as late as as late as you get the information you ought to be able to match it up with the individual student but I'm making I've already made a note um making a note from tonight's presentation too that for me to to really start looking at um potential writing assessments that um might be useful um to the district and I and I don't know in in in thinking about um like third grade I know third grade is one of the ones that it starts that's the mcast starts I don't know because we don't have a Core curriculum for you know K through three in in ela it's it's like phonics you know there's a couple of uh different pieces um I would wonder if writing I don't know how much writing is part of that because clearly that's what mcast is assessing um as well and that's what got me also thinking about it is you know we we put so much of like the tablet like the tested tablet but a lot of some of it is really still you know putting formulating you know a couple of sentences or a thought or so it's it's forming then it's forming and thinking and writing you know you know a lot of the um you know I know we focus a lot on you know dyslexia and reading but disg graphia is also you know one of those other specific learning disabilities that um relates particularly to to writing that I don't want to get overshadowed because we're not really you know we're we're focusing so much on the the reading aspects but there's not really a screening tool that is addresses that but it does get you know it is equally important as well so other than that um thank you and I I would actually I thought there was some way we could look at I think when you're looking at those blue um options you could see the annual like the overtime what our growth is I think that would be really helpful as well too because when I looked at um like in one year it's important to see like you know the how much like the 10th grade and the eighth grade but it's also significant to look at you know how we're growing over that period like so it be great as our curriculum like like what we have this Ela curriculum that's been in place for a couple years you know what does that look like in impacting the mcast and the maps over the time so that would be just another thought when we do have some future presentations is maybe also like a just maybe like a one like a visual slide of just the growth that we're seeing just from a visual perspective it's interesting you say that because I was at various points toggling between uh last year and the year before because we now have two years of data yeah so uh that is going to become increasingly effective without giving too much away about the writing and literacy uh I was actually meeting with Keith and Karen today I think coming to a school committee meeting fairly soon is going to be a presentation on literacy um in uh the Elementary grades so uh so stay tuned that that uh is in the works and will be to you in a meeting or two I think is when that presentation will occur great thank you and I see Maro joined us and I'm just for the record since Colleen's on here I'm just going to say Colleen note her 8:37 she joined while the presentation so she can make note of that in the minutes um Maro did I don't know how much if you heard a lot of it or if you wanted to just um give some comment or questions on the presentation or back to you I didn't really have these are great by the way um thank you for putting this together um I did have a little more questions about the vote and um because I I guess I either I didn't read it correctly or I thought that when they were asking if the mcast were going to you know not be used for um graduation that it basically was not going to be used anymore um that's categorically categorically no it is still going to be used okay right just isn't going to hold be a reason how does that I'm wondering how that works with um you know the whole teaching to the test and stuff like that does that mean that their teachers are not going to be doing that or what or there's they're they're still going to be going on but teachers aren't going to be really focusing as much I would I would argue strongly that teachers might give sample prompts and talk about how to answer a sample prompt I would hope that what teachers are really doing is teaching quality writing um and what I found in my own experience as a teacher um is that if students are getting quality writing instruction um and occasionally throwing in an mcast type prompt uh to sort of see how students are doing with those writing scores tend to be extremely strong um so quality instruction I think drives student performance on the mcast test much more than uh can we somehow have students write in a particularly and highly formulaic way that maybe get you to proficient or high in the needs Improvement band um but quality writing instruction is quality writing instruction so uh quality uh text analysis is quality text analysis so uh those are the skills that I would really want teachers to continue to be stressing um so it's a kind of roundabout way of coming to we certainly are cognizant of mcast or a teacher should be cognizant of mcast and the types of prompts students might see but they really should be giving uh working to give students the underlying skills they need so that the test in some sense is kind of a piece of cake when it comes as crazy as that may sound um I've I used to work in a charter school for all high school dropouts I can honestly say that was our approach and these kids who had all dropped out of high school and all had terrible previous mcast scores uh actually scored above State averages we were almost 100% free and reduced lunch um over 60% former El uh ESL instructed students flep students and we were exceeding State averages cuz we focused on how do you analyze a text how do you write a good uh introductory sentence how do you back it up with factual information um uh how do you stylistically change tone you know you start to get into those sorts of things and uh I I would say that quality instruction is quality instruction with mcass in the in certainly in in your mind but not driving the train other people would probably disagree with me but but you know I've I've seen it with kids who were labeled as massively underperforming and had actually dropped out of school beating State averages so uh that's it that's that's my editorial comment for the for the night thank you Alexis um I do have a couple of questions and also regarding the graduation requirement it's my understanding that but it is distinctly possible the legislature is going to take this up yeah and could change um the will of the people um in Massachusetts and maintain it as a graduation requirement that this is not necessarily a done issue at this particular moment in time um so I think there's more to come um but they haven't decided what they're doing they can do it with any of the ballot measures just really quickly uh desie did send us guidance in the last couple days they kind of said hold your horses yeah uh the earliest this can take effect is December 5th and to please stay tuned for future guidance they also instructed all districts to go ahead with November retests in mcass um because I think there is some awareness the legislature could do something different um I'm kind Cur you know I'm kind of a political uh Hound myself I I wonder when you get out to margins of 59 to 41 if that doesn't start to to change the calculus a little bit because you're not you're not overturning the will of a narrow majority you'd be overturning the will of a quite large majority at that point yeah no I agree I agree um my questions are I'm more focused on the ELA components to all of the scores um because there appears to be even though new curriculums have been adopted for both I'm going to use your language it popped with math um the scores have gone up the students have really taken to it there's huge growth there's huge achievement with the new math curriculum uh but I'm concerned a restrained concern um about the ELA scores because you mentioned in your slide that they've pretty much stayed pretty stagnant um for the last three years so I'm wondering if it's the curriculum um I'm wondering if it's the a vestage of covid still with these younger younger Middle School grades um I'm wondering if it is is a vestage of the curriculum or noncurriculum at Green Meadow that is impacting it and that because of that sort of lack of a coherent curriculum that it is making it harder with the new CK curriculum that's been put in place um I'm wondering if there if you have any information and and otally I see it with my children who have been doing cka for the last three years um and so I'm curious if there's any other information besides just the scores um as to what might be causing this or do we need to put back in place much more targeted interventions on the ELA side um for students who might be partially meeting expectations who might not receive that intervention um because the assumption is we'll get them there and focus on the students who aren't meeting um so I'm I'm I'm sort of wondering where some of this disconnect might be coming in if there's enough data or information about it these are just a few initial thoughts um when I was working with Karen and Keith today we we did talk about students who weren't um um in the not meeting category you know that that how do we capture some of the students who are kind of doing okayish and and also bolstering them um so that is very much in folks mind uh cka was extended to second grade uh for this year after being three through eight um so the transition from uh phonics and uh pheic awareness kind of uh is shifting a little earlier over to um CK so we're going to be watching that very carefully uh one thing I would say is uh related to the math compared to the ELA um math was in mayard up until the second half of last year was being created on a classroom by classroom basis pretty much uh it was all over the parking l lot uh everywhere so really from the math point of view the last roughly four and a half months of last year were the first time in forever that whole groups of teachers in each grade were were working UN in a unified way um within a unified curriculum and I think that had to do with um MTH scores really uh showing Improvement suddenly um the ELA curriculum there were materials in across the grades um and I think we thought we were uh and have every reason to Still Believe We were transitioning to Superior materials to what we had been using um these were state approved materials on the the you know the the new lists that are available um and they're they're much more staff demanding than the previous materials were so the staff really for almost two years has been having quite a bit of professional development in just using the CK materials uh Karen Keith and I were talking today that we really would like or we are cautiously optimistic that all the sort of foundational work is done and we' really would like to we we're anticipating that we should start to see uh growth over time starting to to crop up so um I think in the case of math we were going from wildly scattered to coherent uh in ela we were more coherent and we're trying to transition to better materials but it's still early I mean it it's still very early and I think we need to be open to you know once we are at the third and fourth and particularly fifth year uh five years is a pretty good interval to see if a new curriculum is being effective you know we're going to need to be honest with ourselves about that if if five years out we're we're not feeling groovy um you know it's going to put us in the position of making a hard decision at that point okay because my other concern and wondering if the school committee should consider as we're looking at budgets for next year you know I have a college mindset we focus um a tremendous amount now on students who are in that sort of partial they're not quite where we want them to be they're not academically suspended they're not having major academic issues but they're in that middle ground of they're sort of successful but there's a lot of room for growth and there's a tremendous amount of wraparound supports that are being provided to these students now so I'm wondering if as a school committee we need to start thinking about budget-wise do we need to think about providing that level of support to these students who are they're not really at the bottom but they're not really at the top uh and to be a little more strategic and figure out how we provide that wraparound to these students who need it who could very well um become extremely successful um with the ELA mcast and even exceed map growth and achievement um I'm wondering if that should be something we should be looking at as a school committee I I think it's it's worth the discussion um i' I'd uh say that I'll be very brief I think one thing map does is it breaks students out student by student and every student should have at least a Year's worth of growth so that's sort of a a absolute Baseline if a student is a grade level ahead they should at a minimum still be a grade level ahead at the end of of the current year um for the students who are uh maybe a little bit behind kind of the students you were just describing you know can we get 1.1 years you know one one year one month growth for those students um for the students who are a little further behind you know can you get one one year two you know one year and two months growth right I know that when I was working with high school students um if a student came to us as a ninth grader and was reading at say the middle of sixth grade level and we had some students in that category it's like oh my you know you can ring your hands and say oh my gosh they're they're two two years behind um but what you could say is let's get them one year four month growth every year they're in high school okay maybe we don't even close 100% of that Gap but can we close most of that Gap um and if you take that sort of longer View and I'd like to see this starting in the earliest grades you know if a student in third at the end of third grade is reading at end of second grade level you know you're probably not going to get it all back the next year but by God you ought to get a chunk of it back next year and get another chunk back the year after that and I think that's that's the approach you need to take just real quick since Colleen's not here I just want to say I know we're over I'm not keeping track of minutes but um I know we got a lot so I just wanted to make sure that we had time for everyone to have some questions on this important um thing um Alex are you all are you all done with your questions I'm good for now absolutely great um Mary did I I don't I don't think I because some of the things have already been um touched on so um the map assessments is it just for ELA and math or could we do science are there any other subjects because it's definitely I'm already excited about this whole concept um we are build by subject we we we could explore additional areas um but uh you know that that gets into budgetary questions too right it might be um at least for myself I would like to know what we would be talking about because again we're talk and it sort of speaks to Alexis Alexa that um Alexis anyway that we're going to be you know I'm looking at an override so if that's something that we think is worthwhile um if to know the dollar amount ahead of time um would would help us I can I can look into that tomorrow that would be great um and and I'm I'm a little perplexed with the ELA I like to do history and so I went back to 2021 with the English language arts um and um I know we've were into the third year of of using the new curriculum but it seems as though in the lower grades we've dropped off which you know I can almost understand it with the math because with the new curriculum and that but um we were doing better and then all of a sudden 2024 we've dropped off I feel like you know pretty decently so um do you do you I'm assuming that you look at the history also right Chuck and kind of take that into I think you'll be you'll be you'll be hearing from our literacy people in a a meeting or two okay all right that would be great yeah it wasn't some of it is some of it is cohort-based I'll just I'll just say say that but um an interesting way to look at the data is to remember that this year's third grade or the 2021 third grade became the 2022 fourth grade became the 2000 you know like you know you you need to you need to track in that manner and what can happen is occasionally a particular cohort of students and because our cohorts are small you know typically around a 100 students if in a given year three or four students more than typically are uh perhaps have uh learning challenges uh it's amazing how that can skew a single cohort data so I I would I would say you you may want to look at that the 20213 became the 20022 4th became the 2023 5th and and if you look at the grades in that way it could almost be the same the same group of students is what you're saying yeah exactly I think it's it's very tempting to say how' the third grade do this year how' the third grade do this year how' the third grade do this year it's not the same third graders so right it bounces yeah absolutely and then my last the last question is what is our science how how are our science you know just spoke to about the maps for for Science and that but um doing phenomenal how is that I you know and I I could have put the grade five and eight science slide up to grade the grade five and eight science is killing it too so somehow uh yeah they went from we haven't even done a science curriculum review yet like I know apy is saying why don't we leave it alone that's whatever we're doing is that's why it's going last you know it's like um we're killing it in science in grades 5 eight and 10 so uh you know um as as I conceptualize doing curriculum reviews and getting all the Cycles up and running uh I think I think science will be done last because uh it is very strong right now yeah thank you very much chuck this is the really great information uh Hillary hi sorry I I turn off the video because I was glitching a lot um um thank you for this again um and I love your Insight um a couple of quick questions and one a little bit more complicated question um back on slide number seven um it was great to see how for most of the high need categories we were better than the state in terms of the kids that were not meeting um but I noticed for the black and African-American students were worse than the state yeah that too what do you have any and I and I know this is also the great the age group that on the survey like a year and a half ago the kids the black boys had said they weren't as comfortable at school and so I was just wondering if there were any thoughts specifically about that group um and then a really quick question would be the Foster and homeless categories is that because there's not um there's too little data to be broken up without giving away which uh the state won't break out any cohort um I don't you can see like with uh students included five for Asian students it's blank on mayor um once you get below a cohort of 10 the state won't report um so uh for africanamerican black students 38% of 13 is for students um so part of it and I'm not saying this is exclusively it when you get to cohorts that are in the low teens single students um make huge percentage differences and without looking at the individual 13 students and and looking at what other categories of challenge those students may have I I really wouldn't want to comment without really looking at that very closely um is that something even if because it is a small cohort and I would like not to share with us but is that something that the admin and at fer can look into specifically because that does sort of Stand Out sure I they they know they would know who those four students are and and one of them or two of them might be in the third grade too because this is three to eight so we're yeah we're talking about four students and I know that students who are lagging they years uh are receiving additional supports so um I don't want to comment a whole lot more except to say that it it's a it is a it is literally for students and that they are known to the schools and uh they're receiving additional supports okay um that sort of ties into my bigger question which is so I I get that with the map dat you know a teacher can look at her entire class and see which kids are in which category from the testing and who needs additional support in that class um but I'm wondering if now that we don't have the data the folks who were committed to or focused on the data analysis does somebody look at it at the macro level to say like this child is every single year at this in this category and you know they're in this category consistently and across subject matters and maybe they need to be evaluated for an IEP maybe they need like do they look at it holistically um as opposed to just at each classroom level uh yeah I mean that's what the that's one of the functions of the bbst teams at the schools you know that's the counselors administrators and teachers getting together with grade level teams and saying you know like just saying it's I'm saying this very shorthand it's like what students are presenting as needing additional support and typically things like decaps are used other interventions are used and if if those steps are not uh showing favorable referred for you know assessment and and and possible uh IEP support um so to answer your question yes uh there are teams in place at every building that are looking at the student data and uh students that are uh scuffling are they're they get particular intervention is that harder now this year now that the data teams have ended with Esser I think the short answer is probably yes um the the longer answer is uh we've got a lot of pretty dedicated people and some people are being stretched thinner because you know we we don't want to give up that insight and I think uh our building principles are staying a little later and looking at data to get ready for bbst meetings um but it would always be nice to be in the budgetary position to have a really skilled group of people doing data analysis you know very regularly yeah it seems like there's so much data and it's great that you have all the data available but between looking at it at the macro level looking at it in terms of what AG kidneys that's a lot for everybody to stay on top of yeah I think I think one of the one of the things about the map tool um and I won't go on for this too long not only can the teacher click on a band and see which students in the blue band which students in the green band it actually does break it out and writing is a is a gap but it does break out for reading and language use areas of strength areas of concern so that at least at that level the teacher doesn't need to kind of do his or her own sort of spread sheet or or or or digging thank you so much you're welcome um Chuck thank you and I just wanted to just um I know this is a lot you know to Hillary's Point um data you know you can have all the data in the world if you don't have the PE the right enough people in there to analyze it and to really come up with some strategic planning um which it sounds like you know part of the reason why the math curriculum has been so because that common planning really allowed them that opportunity to look at the information and kind of be cohesive um sometimes you just aren't able to to get off the ground and and you know and develop something and it's a lot of monitoring too um so you know plan is one thing then monitoring it takes a lot of work as well um one thing I I know that when just to go back to a point Mary was asking about the historical information and um and you you mentioned about like there could be particular cohorts um that I would just I would answer or respond to that that that's not unique to manard right every school has potentially a cohort of that's different that could be more you know as the grades kind of continue on um I think what if it was an anomaly I would say certainly that would be something that you would be able to see I think because we're seeing it repeatedly year over year um that there's not growth it does feel like it's not just a cohort kind of scenario that there is something more larger um and I don't know I'm I'm super excited that we're going to get the presentation so I don't want to harp on it as much anymore but I'm glad behind the scenes there are pivots and I look forward to hearing more about that but also to um the other part is if this is a budgetary question which we've talked about let's not be afraid to say you know what um if this isn't working let's let's where do we need a pivot and what does that look like and why and let's have the data to to back that up um so anyway thank you so much for all this work um and um and thanks for everything my pleasure great okay so now oh let me go back to uh the agenda stop sharing okay um so now just moving on to the bleacher project um there's two things I actually made a folder um in in our folder while we were actually earlier got to move it over so there's a bleacher folder um and there's also going to be one for the for HVAC as well for the unit but the bleacher folder I put a couple of documents that um that had been shared about the options to consider for the alumni bleachers I also um received an email the other day from the CPC um I F it over but I wanted to just uh um um mention it so the CPC was wanting to know if we had any more of their funds left unused and because they want it back so I you know I think those were all for the design that were already done so I just want to I forwarded it over to you and Wayne um and and Brian if you're able to just confirm like just in writing that all the CPC monies or with you know with um um poers because I know that they were also tracking from that budget like that those monies had already been spent I think they are I just want to say that with confidence like yeah sorry we have no money to return because they've already been expensed or if they're been incumbered um I think the only monies we had left were what we had received from the town um in a free cash allocation so I just want to confirm that if you could just that any of the funds that we got from CPC um have already been spent an invoice for for Huntress I think it was huntresses was all the huntresses invoices I believe um so that would be one thing I forwarded it over the email but I'd like to get back with them the next I'll tell them know that we're looking into to see if there's anything that has been unspent but um that probably will be an easier response the other [Music] um option is now just moving over to the the bleachers and this is kind of what we had asked Brian and and um there's option A B and C so um the options indicate the impact um status quo is continue renting and I I wanted to make sure from our last school committee meetings I think we've we've each said that we didn't think that that continue renting was an option right so we can just say status quo option off the table right um so then that leaves with options a b and c um each of them would be the recommendation that graduation would be inside um the state tournaments um it indicates the impact there so no state tournament games would be able to be held at mayard high school um we would have to do spend more money because of uh transportation for athletics if our teams do that's a very good point um as well so uh nothing comes for so no bleachers mean means more we have to spend more to send our kids elsewhere um sorry uh how much of a difference is that in cost I think it depends on what teams advance and that's kind of the unknown so like and and where um where they right well for for instance like if we just used um you know the current um both boys and girls soccer teams um um you know and just say you know all of these let's just say they they they win every single one because I mean they're going to you know both teams are going to the um whatever the eight bracket is so that's I think they all be away that's basically what that depending on but I'm wondering like if we use that as an example that say we didn't have the bleachers now so how much would we be paying for busing in relation to how much the the bleachers are so if I'm understanding um and Brian maybe this is a question for for Mike if we wanted to do a scenario to to share because I think that's what we're we're needing to do right as an example if we took you know the girls boys soccer we can get a ballpark it's still going to be a relatively unknown number because we don't know if we're playing in Fair Haven or if we're playing in Acton but like just using the teams that have like that we've you know playing that just like was exactly some if those were all away games instead what would the general cost of Transportation be um because also they're not always at the same place right so then it's right you not like the boys and girls go together it would be boys go here girls go there right so that's um I think would be helpful to um thank you yeah Bri and again just very like back of the napkin kind of um points of reference so when we talk about the impact of not having bleachers this this probably might be that line that unknown on that larger Excel sheet that you know is um you know increased Transportation costs every year for uh unable to host any tournament games um Hillary has a question oh sorry I I'm was looking at um yeah Hillary um so just to clarify um for the the lineup of the wavm and the electrical power needs is the difference between renting scaffolding and not renting scaffolding just um the PA piece wait I hadn't gotten that Laine yet hold on okay sorry well it's okay so after the tournaments there is the Press Box and all um so options a b and c um so option A says use the Press Box options B and C say no PR no Press Box access but um so that's the difference but I think options that says no Press Box access um which is B and C it does say um no option b is renting scaffolding and option C is no scaffolding so I wonder if that can be like renting scaffold oh I see so in one of those we actually rent a lift got it which goes up so coaches can sit on it watch the games right that's the scaffolding yep the rental scaffolding okay so that's where it's saying the possible PA is that what does that mean for the coaches to be up there or is that like another aspect that's not covered in the chart it's not the PA system it's just for viewing okay because if we can't have access to the current Press Box Press Box then they need to rewire so that they do have access somewhere on the ground to run run this run the scoreboard kind of like they do now for certain games or certain events um and and that's where the reconfigure electrical power for use of score scoreboard and possible PA that's where that part comes in I'm just confused for the scaffolding piece like is like what's the the difference between having the scaffolding and not that's just for the coaches or is that also W announcer wavm could be but I don't it's more for the coaches yeah I think it's from what I heard and I don't know Brian um it's just basically elevation right it's just elevation it's vantage point to vantage point that could be yeah I I get that I was just sort of wondering like for that for the cost of the scaffolding what is the impact of not doing it versus doing it um but does that does this do the does the PA system like the the people that do that do they don't they need to be up high to like be able to see and and do the play by plays I mean they would do a better job up high yeah okay so they'll do what they can at ground level they won't see it as well right would they also be able to use the scaffolding that the coaches are using or do that have there's not enough space and that's so the more the larger and more substantial lift or scaffolding that you rent the more expensive it is and and then I don't know in terms of exactly you know take a little further conversation with M be around what that looks like in terms of electronics and PA system the portable PA systems what it is on a windy day it's not much well also it's not int it's intended to be like having a place that's secure right you know like not Outdoors as well um for so is the I'm I'm also confused about the scaffolding is the scaffolding supposed to replace the Press Box or is it attached to the Press Box no not attached to the Press Box it's just like a lift flat like you might see painters Ed construction workers that it just goes up 20 feet and you put a coach from each team on there and you could put your announcer on there with a system um but it's really for whoever said and it might have been you marrow I don't remember but about vantage point to see the field and be able to call it out as they see it okay so it so basically would you that we would have that as an option because we have no Press Box correct and it's is that requirement for the game like if we want to host games here is that a requirement or is it just what they're used to or for some games it's a requirement football tends to have the most requirements around that they want their offensive and defensive and coaches up high so they can record it call it see it give instructions I don't know necessarily that the same uh requirement as there for say field hockey or soccer like I'm just want like I feel like if if not having this like for option between option b and c like if not having the scaffolding means we can't have home football games or does like what what are the consequences of not having it cuz I feel like yeah I feel like it's more than a preference thing it's probably like do we need it or not well option so the option C right is the the no scan aing and that's where you don't have a PA so like they can't obviously call the games which is what they you know they they do now and basically it's maybe just filming at ground level um and that's kind of it um where the renting of the scaffolding it allows for the possibility of the pa um system they both require configuration of electrical because there's no Press Box um there but that's where that vantage point of scaffolding allows for potential vantage point of you know announcing the game or a PA use no scaffolding it certainly rules it out so I think from a wavm perspective if I had to say because right now um I was logging into the game the other day and there was like um 80 people watching it remotely at one point um and which was was wonderful you know I'm sure so and they were announcing it you know it was um it was really great how how how awesome they did um so I think that that way we'd lose that um we'd lose the announcing and then you'd also lose the the coverage because it wouldn't be um it wouldn't be as probably as visually um clear it would probably be like it was for today's games because if like if you were at either of the soccer Gam for a while you saw wavm on the on ground level that's where they were they the table over kind of on the ground in front of the fence in front of the bleachers but we did have people up calling the games from the Press Box so they had the vantage point of seeing sorry there is a parent that has um that sets up um a recorder yes um and I don't know how much that something like that would cost but I'm wondering if you know at least it gives um I would imagine that you could do like some sort of live feed on with something like that and I'm wondering if that would be something that we could that because they live stream today on the current setup right yeah I don't think I know which one you're talking I know that I've seen that for other soccer games app parent sometimes they record it but I I think it's they record and I don't know if it's streams and they bring it home and like they upload it to like a a YouTube channel right but I'm just saying I would imagine that that there are capabilities that they could you know it's up high enough to be able to see yeah the whole yeah it follows exactly it follows the the play um okay so if for a school committee recommendation because I think what I would like for us is to go to the quad board to say this is you know we've we've heard the options this is what you know we we're going to need assistance with right because I ultimately we'll need all um all the options we're looking at require demo right so a b and c and I think what we're just to confirm with everyone so we are are we considering the demo to are we would we would we be looking for that like after football season or like if we got funding secured or whatever is that um I don't know Brian if if Mike or you have thought about that part as well um he's not excited about demo I know he doesn't want to be without a press box that it's just that simple I mean it offers a lot even though the bleachers are in bad condition and they're fenced off not having a Press Box puts a lot of other things in play I I have a question about option A where it says to use the Press Box I don't that's a that's right now that's like status that's what we're doing right now right option A is what happens now so people go into the Press Box well that sounds to me more like status quo because option A is saying that that we can't have state tournament games right oh no no sorry status quo is option A is no rental so we would have no rentals but then still keep the so option A is we leave the bleachers the way they are yeah I think that's what I was understanding yes so demo is B and C okay so if we're talking about demo I just want to make sure I understand everyone just hearing the thoughts and concerns are we still at a place that we're saying we need to demo I just want to do a straw poll that because that'll narrow down options can we just confirm who currently is allowed in the Press Box like who's currently allowed to go into those bleachers no one nobody goes into the bleachers the only get the Press Box right oh that's like the our athletic director um somebody from wavm to hook everything up an announcer so like for tonight it wasil an adult not a kid no stud I don't think there are any students up there that I've seen okay um and then a coach from both sides sometimes two coaches but to get up to the Press Box they have to use the bleachers correct right so which yeahor said that they were so right right right we tried to seek we tried to seek a partial like right waiver you know like only for access to and he would not so that's why it's what it sounds a liability it's a liability we let somebody go up there are we protected in any way liability Wise by these like signing something or we can't no I we could have them sign anything in the world but when it comes down to it we're not they're not certified yeah so so that's where I I I mean I I hear programmatically in the impact and that's why I don't I like I think everyone probably sympathizes with that um it's a lot to swallow without having a Press Box available um but the alternative would be to get the scaffolding which we'd have to rent as we needed it so right so are we still I just going back to my question for as a school committee are we still demo proceeding um marrow what are your thoughts I mean it makes sense but I don't like it that's not an answer I need an I need know me I think part of the issue for me is that I don't have any dollar amounts to to like attach to what these mean so P let's just say dollar aside purely based on risk and program you know if we just look at it what we would like from that perspective just say money was not the issue um it's more about what well if if I if you're saying that way if money wasn't the issue then I'd say let's keep the Press Box and the way it is so that they can use it um and you know we would just pay for whatever issues come up come about but liability so whatever L we just that's not gonna happen so you know I guess we're gonna have to take them down I would prefer to do um a to have some sort of scaffolding or some other option like being having them be able to see up and over um and you know be able to use some sort of PA system um you know I mean I'm not really sure how how that's going to even work you know I mean we don't have playby plays for soccer but for for um you know football is that that's gonna be weird like I are the are the people that's doing the playby plays going to even be able to see what they're even saying you know what they're supposed to be saying how I mean that's what kind of you know football game would that be it would be horrible from my what do you think about um just from a demo perspective um are you thinking that we're still demo forward or yeah I guess we'll just we should probably move forward with it you know especially if it's you know if we're liable and people are using it that's not good we should we should not be doing that LE what do you think the only word that I cannot get out of my head is condemned the bleachers have been condemned you know it it's I know it's like boarding off an old building and you know crossing your fingers that nobody stays in there and gets hurt I mean it's I mean the whole thing started as a result of somebody getting hurt this whole episode started um snowballing down because somebody got hurt on the bleachers and I'll be honest with you I'm worried that like there's a lot of rust so they've already told us that in the inspection report like there's a lot of paint over rust and so because they're not being inspected the qual like year over-year the Integrity of whatever metal is holding that stuff up that's not being inspected anymore it's only getting worse every year so that's or to think about that part that's what bothers me as well so it's not like we have someone to say okay this looks like the Integrity underneath the Press Box looks I'm like the floor to Fallout you know or I have no idea but that's just stuff that I worry about when when it comes to Old structures um maybe I've seen too many balconies collapse in in the French Quarter um because because of that so um yeah that would be really horrible yes it would be um I mean I un I understand the sacrifice it would be for the teams at this point if we take it all down if we demo everything but I don't think I honestly don't think we have a way around it um I feel like we're we're putting people in danger right now by allowing them to use it all right um that's yep Mary where are you kind of along the same L I'm saying that we take down the bleachers for the same reasons because it's a liability and somebody is ultimately going to get hurt but I also would like to know how much it's going to cost us to rent the scaffolding because that's an important piece and also if we have to rent bleachers for the state tournaments for instance versus you know what's the what's the differential between renting just for the we can't because they're not Ada that was the whole reason why we can't run anymore but but if we did it just for short term just for the state tournaments versus the difference of doing the transportation like the to know the cost is well it's still We're not gonna get certif we're not no the building inspector the plumbing inspector won't like allow that that's that's why we even for right now GR uation is only a couple days that's why we're not you know but I guess the question is we're we're doing it right now yeah like what do you mean they won't allow it like they haven't they haven't like told us we have to get rid of the rentals we currently have they sent a letter with What's um Palumbo my goodness um Phil yes was recently no this is part of the information we got when we were making they they put a whole thing of even for temporary this is what you would need and it had like the water station these like you need Ada Porta Poes like so it's not just bring the bleachers in back it's about all the other stuff that must be with it so the Plumb inspector opined already if you have temporary bleachers now thankfully they haven't wrot cited us okay so right now we're still yes we have exposure we haven't been cited thank you plumbing inspector and building inspector but we could you know I don't that could be we are not in code right now so okay I we yeah that's why I give that false impression like what we have now is not so we have no choice that after football season we cannot have bleaches for the spr yeah we shouldn't have yeah exactly we only allowed it this long because we thought we were getting and we you know we kind of like be like okay we have a project starting so that we' get a little leeway but now we have no project so in that case if we're going to present this to the for at the quad board for under the status quo we have to take away that piece the second part of that first rental status because well we're just GNA tell them what we are recommending so this is not going to be like we're not gonna we're gonna be like this can't but you just said we can't rent for the spring season no no no um we're going to decide what option we want and then we're going to tell them this is the option that we as a school committee are recommending so if we're recommending options B or C right knowing all the facts of the scenario so it sounds like demo Yes sounds like no renting um further that rules out status quo that rules out option A so then we're getting down to we says we I've heard we want a scaffolding right so that is option was that c or like I don't know that that's what we're gonna tell that's what we would be telling this this is the quad board this is what we're going to be proceeding with that we need help with with we need help help with demo we're going to be we're going to need help with scaffolding you know we're Mike had some prices on that second page about scaffolding we can confirm some of those things they don't need to be deciding our business on what we do on our field we tell them based on our students needs and what this is what we're recommending and and you know we have to tell them my uh Greg has already said if there's anything that's continued renting it now needs to be built into the operation budget because there's no more um like long-term rental can't be so if we need to do a scaffolding every year until they do the build the project or Transportation costs like if we need to increase Transportation budget um every year because now we don't have that's where we need to do that soft cost estimate and build that in to the operation budget that's what we need to project and give that to them those the the impact of this whatever option it is and the reasons why that's I don't know if that helped at all and Brian can you explain what the difference between the B and C option for wavm and electrical power needs why does one you can use the the PA and one you can't no scaffolding scolding option C is no scaffolding I get how the scaffolding impacts the PA when you're on the ground both of them you're going to have to redo the electrical one has the cost cost of a lift and one doesn't but what does that have to do with the PA like why do you need the scaffold like I get the lift I get the the lift in terms of the vantage point but how does the lift impact the PA system it doesn't it's basically I think you're calling the game so you're using the PA you're using it with a lift ground right you're probably not really going to do it okay yeah so like if you don't have a vantage point you can't really call the game well right and therefore the PA having a PA system would be useless in that sense um if you have scaffolding you have elevation to call the game in which case a PA system may be engaged with more efficiency is that correct Brian yes can so on the second page of the numbers where it's talking about scaffolding but then it says bleacher rental so none of those cost for SCA none of those lines that say scaffolding are actually the cost of the left right they're all bleacher um so these were budget so it's FY 23 that this is last year's budget um FY 24 this is what is a budget amounts um those are bleachers right bleacher we don't really know how much the lift would be no we don't know the difference yeah so maybe Brian if we could get that that number with that scaffold raling what that would be every year and then we could um add that escalation to to that um and then did Greg ever come back with you about an estimate for demo that Justin had talked about or no okay because that's what we are also I think we need and kind the chicken TH or something at one point he did say 50 but I don't know where he got that number from he had I haven't seen a document on it so it's kind of like the Chicken and the Egg we need funding to get I don't know you know to engage maybe hunis since they know the facility how much can we you know have them give us an estimate for demo um if they would be willing to do it because they they have a as long as we want to pay them they're willing to do it right that's what you I remember you saying that before cont kind of right so maybe they can give us an estimate like Hey look we're going to need demo what would that knowing what you know about our place what would that you know cost be to give that assessment of De demo and then we can give that to the fincom or whatever like look this is what you know from otherwise we have to put an RFP out for um a quote yeah or we could probably call I don't I mean I don't know I don't even know if it's again 50,000 was a number that was just thrown in the air I don't know where Justin got that from and does that whatever number uh does that also include not just the demoing of all of that but taking care of the electrical nope because regardless of what we do um whichever option there's a lot of electrical in there and that's got to be taken care of as a part of the demo that's why I was hoping Huntress might we might be able to engage huness because they were familiar with the facility when they you know did our designs so maybe they can carve off the demo part as I can reach out to Phil yeah okay yeah I mean just I just need you to understand there's going to be a bill attached to this he isn't going to do this because as long as you understand that yeah yeah I just wanted to make sure we do it's kind of like the chicken or the egg you know we have to get you know in order they want numbers we don't get we can't get numbers until we get someone to you know look at it and give us numbers and so maybe yeah let us know what that cost is and fair enough the cost of yeah a cost of what uh yeah because he's going to have to come up with some type of you know work to estimate that um so unfortunate there's no good solution here they're all bad okay I toally believe that we need to not allow people into the Press Box because I feel like ethically and financially it's too much of a risk like I don't want to be in the newspaper because like the thing collapsed while people were up there and we knew about it and talked about it at meetings but I I don't know that the leap to demolishing the bleachers is necessarily also a requirement like I don't know that totally Banning people from the Press Box also requires demolishing the bleachers well that's what holds them up yeah at some they're just gonna fall down yeah but I mean if we like totally lock the lock the gate around the fence around it and don't give anybody access the fence is rental so we're not going to be renting it's not our fence so the fence will go byebye as well um because it's a it's again not budgeted for uh it wasn't budgeted it was like a one year till the project so um if we're not demoing then we have to we still have to have no bleacher no no one can have Press Box we still need to rent a scaffolding we still need to rent fencing and we're still gonna electric right yeah we wouldn't have to do the electric I don't well no we would anyway because we yeah they can't have access the Press so it's you might as well just demo and get the place cleared out if you're going to do all the stuff that You' need to do anyway because you're not having access to the Press Box that's I don't know that's just me thinking out loud yeah I don't know that I'm opposed to demoing it I just don't necessarily like where I feel like not using the Press Box is a requirement I don't feel like demoing is necessarily a requirement it may be cost effective between once you consider the cost of um the fencing and moving the electrical and everything thing it may be worth it just like financially to just demolish it but from the safety perspective I don't necessarily take the leap to needing to demolish it to prevent access because if we just didn't give people the key to the fence the fence is in ours though that's what I'm telling you like I know I'm saying like the that's and that's why that I mean the cost of demolishing might equal out the cost of the fence but I mean we could still continue to rent a fence like that's not a requirement to could access you know right we could we'd have to that into our operating budget like that would be the other thing too is that we would need funding for that because it wasn't built in we only just did it for one year no I know I'm just thinking like I don't know what the cost of the demolishing is versus the cost of the fence like the fence wasn't a lot I want to say it was like yeah it's on the $3800 yeah so it wasn't a lot so I think you know I'm just thinking is 100 times that or something I go yeah I don't know I just it's getting late and I think yeah we got we got a lot of to do yeah all right so can we can we just say that um as a school committee we are we would like to proceed with I think the majority of folks are like demolished um Press Box but like let's pursue renting um scaffolding for wabm is is at the path that we're um we're but we want the numbers and we also if we right we want the numbers with the cost for demo but yeah right but we can like for Quad board meeting purposes when we talk about that we can um we will say that option b um without we don't have numbers yet but that is the option that why B and not C I thought we were going to B has oh B has a scaffolding okay sorry yeah B has yeah B has a scaffolding C has no scaffolding so that's why yeah so option b will be more advantageous for wabm without a Press Box um and then um I think that's it right so option b are we okay all right great all right I'll make a note of that and then Brian um just yeah if you could check with Greg next time you talk to him about if he has any more info about what he could find about that and also the um Reserve funds or I mean the reserve fund the um the extra money if there is any from CPC not the CPC money no the uh free cash um that we have whatever is remaining for rental if I think he said he was going to have someone check it to make sure it could be used maybe that could be part of that could be put towards demo um whatever is remaining I just want to make sure the wording um allowed for that well the either that or if it could go towards um whatever this uh extra cost for um them to you know give us quote yes yeah it'll be spent it'll be money money spent already right okay all right um Brian any any questions from us on those notes okay no right um I'm going to make this quick then um h back is the next thing I don't have actually a reserve fund thing that people are going to vote for but I put a folder in just because so everyone can understand I met with fincom this week and So at their next meeting I'm going to um present a reserve fund transfer so just in the folder um what Brian had shared with um with Mary and I before was that there the school would be I think we've talked about this as a school committee that we've identified $30,000 of the $76 approximate thousand that needed to be that was left unfunded for that second HVAC um so we will be seeking um a reserve fund transfer from fincom for $ 46,5 something8 for that second rooftop unit um and Brian had shared an invoice um for that that but so I will put together a reserve fund transfer they're aware of of the incoming request I will make sure that it goes to um the select board as well the select board does not need to approve it it is finance committee only approve it but it's good that the select board has awareness you know the what's coming down the pike um as well um and I think the only thing Wayne I know we had some back and forth was the account [Music] um did we did I get that from you already um the account where we would want the funding to go to um I'll Circle back with you if I have any questions on that I we can I I'll once I put the draft together I want to make sure that you and you can have a look at it as well and wait um does that sound good yes we had we had had discussions about does it go to the budget or they set up a uh capital account I don't think it is I think it's because it's a the reserve fund is it it sunsets so it's once a year it goes back to the you know the general fund once if it's not used so I think it has to go to our operating maintenance line um and I'll I'll look to see what we use last time I think that's where I was I remembered where we left off um before and I can come up with the account on their end that they would put it into yeah you don't know account numbers are yeah exactly it'll just be more okay so I just want to make sure with this with the school committee does anyone have any questions on on what this is exactly so remember this is that second unit that can't be repaired they thought it could be repaired but it has to be replaced actually um so we don't actually have to to uh vote tonight on this no there's not any I I I put a vote in case um there's no form just the numbers so if I think if everyone's fine I don't remember us voting on I don't know did we were vote on it before I can't remember we we could vote if you want like to authorize me to you know present this to the F finance committee um on behalf of the school committee we could certainly do it but that would be really kind of it um but I want to make sure everyone first want to make sure everyone understands what is being asked and why um Alexis do you have any questions about this expense um or the process okay no marrow no Hillary no Mary nope okay um so if I will then make a motion that the school committee prepare a reserve fund transfer and authorize the chair to submit on behalf of the school committee for the I just lost the amount for the amount totaling 4 6,578 as recommended by superintendent hos and Wayne White I can second okay any further oh it's for the hbac I should have maybe added that too for the second HVAC uh any other discussion okay roll call Alexis yes Maro yes Hillary yes Mary yes Natasha yes wonderful all right motion carries and I will make sure everyone has eyes on that before it's presented to fincom as well um now we're going to move on to the superintendent goals ran thank you so much I know we are this is a late night for us um so thank you very much um I don't know if you wanted to just share I know your goals you put them in the folder for everyone to look at and where your tweaks are but I don't know if you wanted to highlight anything in particular of um based on the feedback and how you were about going line by line on anything no I'm fine they're in there that made minimal changes just yeah okay and I did see Maro you had put some notes in um today about um that Brian had um answered yes yes okay um yes all right and this with this format um was just was the one that I kind of like from where we were last time of just putting the goals together but the table if Brian if it's it's e other yeah sorry about um that's fine doing that I think we wanted to make sure they were're finalized first and then we can put that for you so um Mary any any questions or thoughts about um I just on on the goal number three um it was um under choose mayard keep F because of course we talked about you know the pathways mayard High School Green metal building project build um budget overrides and then under three school um no sorry um number four choose mayard it says keep follow students in mayard and I wanted to just add from grade four not you know because it sort of sounds like you know keep students in mayard um so that they go up to the high school but we lose students from you know fourth fifth sixth grade um so can we just incorporate the whole of Fowler to or is that necessary I just I thought it was but I don't know if you know it does keep fower students is that um I guess oh you're looking to be more narrow like middle I'm looking at it to be more broad from from file from fourth grade up through eth I guess is you know because we're always thinking about keeping keeping students um all of a lot of our effort is from thank goodness we we we've been doing a really good job lately of of introducing kids at follow I can add that that's no problem yeah I mean we're doing it for now anyway because we're you know we have the kids fer kids come from third grade up so it's just putting it in writing that's all okay that was all all right [Music] um all right so I'm just put a note on the document Brian to update um per Mary yeah feedback okay BB back feedback okay um all right I just saw just for I saw um Hillary had to hop off just for um so it's 808 10:8 um anything any other question Mary nope that was it thank you okay um marrow oh I'm all set okay Alexis nope I'm good okay Brian again thank you very much I'm very much um glad we got to this place and we're comfortable so I will go ahead and make a motion that we approve the uh superintendent goals as presented with edits for school year 25 second okay Alexis second um roll call any oh any further discussion sorry all right uh roll call Alexis yes uh Mary yes Maro yes and Natasha yes all right these are approved Brian thank you very much um quad board prep I think we've already talked about it period just throughout uh the information Brian um the presentation I might talk to you um Monday were I'll send you an email um I did have just a couple thoughts on that what you had sent um on the data but I think it was really it's really great so I just yeah thank you for that just some some tweaks um a little bit but um I think in all it kind of gets to the point um and I think also just hearing about also like transportation and stuff that we probably need to kind of look at that as well um and I think that that's that's really all I I have I'm not going to go into anything particular for the cheers report but that oh the agenda got posted or got shared by Greg did everyone get it that yep everyone got it no no no I can't tell who he sends it to okay I'll forward it he just did it today earlier today so um didn't he yes did this morning okay I'm going to forward it um joint meeting oh it's at Fowler also um yeah why is that really because they didn't have the fire station wasn't available yeah it wasn't available and for that night so they decided to do um we were looking for a place and they uh Jeff actually thought maybe school might be a good place for something um so I'm going just actually forward this to everyone uh I'm don't know if Colleen posted uh for us I'm going to have to check with her because we got this agenda late and Monday's a holiday so we'll need to post it first thing tomorrow before 11: if she's not here anyway she's she's at her conference I know but I'll message I'll see if um we're going to have to have an agenda let let me just I'll have to see I'll confirm with her maybe I get something over late tonight and she might be able to send it over at some point because we have to have a notice posted um for the school committee um all right uh Maro I I know we you wanted to talk about the school committee goals I'll make sure it's an agenda item for actually I I was talking about about Brian's goals oh okay don't worry about it I wasn't clear I'm sorry okay well we do need to actually have a work schol committee goals as well but Brian's goals now are good and so yes the school committee yeah um so we'll work on a workshop for the school committee goals and then I think that's all I have for um to update anything Mary anything for you no okay uh marrow anything else um I'm policies are we are we looking for some I'm trying to get a policy um meeting scheduled so and Hillary yeah okay um okay so hopefully I can get um something scheduled right as of now we're looking at maybe Thursday so we'll see remember Monday's a holiday too so it would have to be posted Tuesday yeah okay um all right Alexis any updates from you NOP all right um I think in that case I will make a motion that we adjourn second second all right Mary got it in first all right um yeah so it looks like all we don't have any consent or minutes so I'm um we'll do that next time all right so roll call Mary yes uh marrow yes Alexis yes Natasha yes we are adjourned at 10:13 it's a late Wednesday Brian Chuck thank you very much for everything good night all right good night