tonight's meeting with the pledge of allegiance. Please join us in the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Hey, good evening everybody. Um, we are not all here this evening. We have one member, Mike Stevens, online with us
this evening. So, I need to just let people know that in accordance with the open meeting law, uh, regulation 940 CMR 29.1. Be advised that Mike Stevens is attending this meeting remotely. In
addition, because he's attending remotely, all of our votes at this meeting will be by roll call. Lastly, if any select board members are not clearly audible to any of us or to any members of the public, please notify me and we'll do our best
to remedy the problem and we'll inform the public whether the meeting will continue. Uh so with that uh we will go to the first our next item on the agenda which is public comments. The board would like to hear public
comments and if there's any further action that's required by the board I will add the matter as appropriate to the forthcoming agenda. Depending upon the comment from the public, the board may, if we're able, within the confines of the open meeting law, respond with
information as opposed to needing to deliberate on that particular issue. So, having said that, is there anybody in the audience this night tonight here with us that would like to make a public comment? Seeing none, we'll move online. Is there
anybody online with public comments? I do not see a hand raised. So we will move on. I I do want to say for anybody that might be joining us that is looking for uh information on the approval of
the senior center uh contract. We still have ongoing discussions on that. That matter will be withdrawn from this from this um uh select board meeting this evening and we hope to have it back on next meeting to to move forward with
that issue. Don't want to have somebody sitting around if they don't need to be. All right. Um the next item on the agenda is the consent agenda. We have one item on our consent agenda which is a cemetery
deed number two 2132 which is transfer. Uh is there a motion? Actually, I think we have uh item A and B, which is also the Maynard Relay for Life memor for Memorial Park on May 29th, 2026. So, those two items are on
the consent agenda. >> I'll move to approve consent agenda items A and B as presented contingent upon adherence to all federal, state, and local public health and safety guidance and authorize the use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. >> Motions made and seconded. Are there any
comments? Mike, anything? >> Nope. >> Can you hear me? All right. >> And we can. Thank you. We'll take a roll call vote. Mike, >> yes. >> Lindsay, >> yes. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Miami, yes. As well. Um, item number
five on our agenda is the is a contract with CTA Construction Managers LLC relative to Green Meadow Elementary School and a change order. Um, Bill Palumbo, I think, is with us. Yep, I see him online. Um, Phil, you want to
give us a heads up as to what the change order is all about and what it is you're going to be asked to vote on this evening. Correct. >> Yep. So, every change order with a contractor uh includes what's called proposal change orders or PCOS. Uh, so this particular change order has nine
PCOS included in it. So, I'll I'll do the best I can to run through the nine PCOS real quick. Uh so PCO number 8R1, it's related to the Tiger Drive entrance to the phase one construction zone. So this captures a site scope of work that we credited out of the uh early enabling
package. Uh it grades and levels that site area, relocates a fire hydrant out of the footprint of the future roadway, and then provides a temporary walkway for pedestrians uh coming from Crow parking lot. So that PCO8R1 is in the dollar amount of $21,669.80.
PCO9R3 this is in the amount of $12,73748. This is for additional labor, material and equipment costs related to the added structural steel and detailing provided uh due to the increased solar canopy size and loads uh resulting from the
town solar provider's final solar panel selection and layout. after the bidding process was completed. Um the next PCO 14R1 uh this is in the dollar amount of $5,332.13. Uh this is for venting plumbing venting at the showers at uh the gymnasium. So
the bid docks did not include the required plumbing venting for those showers. So this PCO is linked to the added labor and material to uh install the appropriate plumbing venting per code. PCO7R3. This is in the dollar amount of $11,674.79.
Uh there's an exterior wall to a twotory uh steer. Um we have at the new building. Uh that exterior wall is shown to be um constructed in 6-in metal studs that goes from kind of foundation up to the roof line. uh per wind load and and
code requirements that uh light gauge metal framing wall assembly needed to increase from 6-in metal stud to 10-in metal stud. So, this PCO captures that added material for that reason. PCO 18R1 uh solar canopy anchor bolts in
the amount of $17,63916. The anchor bolts at the solar canopy column footings needed to increase in size and quantity uh due to the solar canopy increased size and loads. So that is the added material uh for that. PCO19
added fence at temp playground per the owner's request in the amount of $6,428.73. So due to grading we had to do a a retaining wall around half of the temp playground outbound of the existing building. uh the height of that retaining wall off a grade. Technically per code doesn't require a fence, but it
made sense to put it up for safety purposes. So that's that scope. PCO20 in the amount of $30,898.86. So um the new sewer system going to the new building, it ties into the sewer system along Great Road. that scope of
work just because of the complexities of it as it relates to the busyiness of Great Road and the busyiness of the school property. That work needs to be done uh at night. So this uh $30,8986 is to make this it's about a week week
and a half worth of work uh to make it night shift work. Um and then two more PCOS. So PCO 21 uh early stages of the construction phase. Um the subs were doing their typical mechanical, electrical, plumbing coordination, above ceiling
coordination, understanding where duck work is going to go in connection with light fixtures, etc., etc. Through that review process with the design team, um the HVAC engineer saw that we were showing um more dampers than were needed. So, this actually is a credit of
$628.68 to remove a couple dampers. And then PCO24, this is the last one. This is in the dollar amount of $2,929.30. So, the building has a underlab drainage system due to the groundwater level. Uh
the bid docks didn't show that system tying into uh the storm water drainage system outbound of the building footprint. So, this um cost is for the added labor material for that scope of work. So, that's the nine PCOS in change
order number three. Uh so the grand total for change order number three is $198,68157. So that brings the town's contract with CTA up to $61,75,000 uh $75,114.79. Any questions?
>> Y thank you. Um Mike, do you have any questions? Uh, only one at this time. Um, could you just please confirm whether or not this is still within the the normal boundaries of changes for this kind of project or are we running over?
>> No, we're still in the normal boundaries right now with the bid savings. We have right around $4 million in contingency. Um, so no, we're we're on budget. >> Thank you. >> Nothing here. >> I've got one quick question. Just
curious. Um obviously we're well beyond having any lengthy discussion on it. But the number the the third one on the list which is venting for showers at the gymnasium. Um elementary schools typically kids
don't take showers um at gym time. So what was the rationale for putting showers and presumably added cost to put showers in um at at an elementary school? What I I'm presuming it was, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, but maybe
so they can rent out those locations at some point. >> No. So it was discovered kind of twothirds of the way through design that per the the building code and plumbing code in the the quantity of occupants
that could be in at an event in that gym uh the architect deemed the uh classification of that space is such that it requires a shower. Um so this this was an update to the plumbing code. It affected a good amount of projects.
So, it's it's a code uh related issue, not not because of renting or anything. >> My elementary school did not have showers in in that was many many years. >> Mine didn't either.
>> Okay. Um any further comments or questions? Otherwise, is there a motion? Move to approve change order three with CTA Construction Managers LLC for the Green Meadow School Building Project general contractor contract in the
amount of $198,68157 as presented authorizing use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. >> Any further comments or questions? Hearing none. Mike, >> yes. >> Lindsay, >> yes. >> Jeff, >> yes. >> Yes. As well.
>> Mr. Chair, before you go on, if you don't mind, I apologize. I don't think we gave you proper heads up about this, but you can see my notes in board ducks. Um, it's just that this is a good process. It's very transparent having this board approve these change orders. However, there's already been two public
meetings to deliberate and review these change orders. Both the both the school building committees subcommittee for finance might have that title wrong and then it goes to the full school building committee. There's already sort of like two vetting process approvals before the board even sees it. and the town
administrator through this through the board already has a approval authority for contracts of value $50,000. So primarily the board has been seeing contracts of value over that but any value any contract has been vetted by both those two other bodies before I can see it in addition to the consultant and
architects making changes. So I don't I don't think I'm asking for the board to make any decisions tonight but I I asked Mr. Chair if the board would consider in the future considering whether the board needs to see the change orders. Now you could maybe that's your prerogative just sort of tossing it out there.
>> I appreciate that Greg because I was somewhat surprised to see this when we worked through the high school project they were all approved that that was what that was what the building committee did. >> Very good. >> Um was approved change orders essentially for the last two years of the project. >> That is absolutely the same with the
part building committee. That was all done at the >> there was nothing else. You know the colors had all been chosen and the flooring had all been chosen. So it was really disapprovable. So I don't have a problem with that because all these discussions about what's going on, you
know, are really foreign to us. Like the comment about showers. I would have known about that. >> Oh, that's true. There are two members of the for members of the public. There are two members of the select board who are on the school building committee >> and um and I of course participate as
well as other town staff. And then um and then meetings are public and we informed the board through the regular reporting of the partners which is moving along. I won't take the thunder from Bill and the rest of the team that are actually building it. Um uh but we'll continue to keep the board approved but like you know apprised of
the progress of the so I don't know if there's even an action to be taken. Um >> I would feel comfortable if we made a motion at some point but I don't want to do it without it having been on the agenda. >> No problem. So, if we can put it on the agenda for the next meeting under the
school building committee and then the board can have that discussion, but uh that way if members of the public have any questions about that transfer over to the building committee, they can have that comment. >> All right. Thank you and thank you for the board for your patience and allowing
me to give you my pitch, Mr. Chair, unless unless you have any further questions for Will or the I mean to see the reports. >> Thank you very much for your time. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Have a good night. >> All right. The next um
contract is um Lex Fest Group, which we're skipping over. Um again, for those who missed the announcement earlier, um we still have some issues ongoing that are in discussion and negotiation with the owner of the property at 141 Parker
Street relative to the managed senior center. So, we will not be moving forward with that issue this evening. U the next item is item number six, regional dispatch. We I believe we're joined. I think I saw Mr. Hook on the
line. I see him there. Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Hook. It's nice to meet you, >> Mr. Chair, board members. Good evening. Uh pleasure to be here. Um we are in some discussion with the possibility um sort of high level at
this point I guess it's fair to say with a regional dispatch um that would take the dispatch services outside of our building here and join a regional approach with some other communities that are out there. And Mr. Hook is here
tonight to give us some background on the organization that he is the director of communications on and can give us some insight and then the board can make a decision as to whether or not we wish to move forward with at least pursuing the possibility of moving in that
direction. Um, so I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Hook if you can give us a brief summary of what the program is all about. One thing I would ask that you focus on or at least emphasize is that um you know people would be concerned
they hear Brookbrook you know what's to do with Maynard and the fact that there would not be how we make sure that there is no impact on public safety and all that stuff. Um so that people understand that just because somebody might be
sitting in a room uh you know several miles away does not mean that they're not getting the same level of public safety service that they are here. But I'll turn it over to you and go right ahead. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um so just a a
little bit about me. I'm the communications director here. Um kind of really started the regional center uh 15 years ago. Uh and we've really grown today. We receive calls and dispatch for 14 communities
uh in two fire districts uh with a control point for two fire districts. One of them Middle Sex County, the other North County. Uh we take about 200 call 200,000 calls for service a year. Serve a population of 240,000 people. So um we
have a an amazing communication center down here in Hullbrook. Uh we are looking to expand our operation with a second center. Um and we have a number of communities out in Middle Sex County already. We we provide
services for the town of Sudbury, Sherbornne, Hollist, uh and we have a number of other communities that are interested. Um you know, there certainly are benefits to becoming a regional center, uh being part of a regional
center. Uh and a lot of it is taking uh I like to say it's a better service, right? We're improving services to the residents and the first responders. But um in addition to that is, you know, the the opportunity for grant funding. So we typically come in and we do a needs
assessment of the town. We look at all the infrastructure uh from radio infrastructure to radio subscriber units, mobiles, portables, uh microwave, fiber, MDTs, um generators, stuff like that, cameras,
site hardening, um and that can that can bring in some funding for a community. I'll give you an example. And before before I say this, I just want to be clear that this is a competitive grant and has to be applied for, but we've
been very successful with these grants. Um, this year we got $12 million, over $12 million. Last year we got 20 20.8 million. Um, the town of Sudbury, who joined recently, maybe two years ago,
uh, they received over $5 million of infrastructure improvement. So that's a huge um that's a huge benefit for a community obviously. Um and and those grants re recur so it's not a one-time thing. So
um once we we put equipment into the town of Maine um we're going to maintain that equipment at no cost other than assessment costs. the the state 911 department right now is doing uh an
incentive for communities to join regional centers and uh the incentive is the state 911 department will pay the first three years of the assessment the fourth year of the assessment is 50% and the the
fifth year of the assessment is 25% that the state 91 department will pay for so um again that's another u benefit to communities. So to answer your question, Mr. Chair, about the distance, um
again, we we dispatch Fair Haven, the town of Fair Haven all the way to the town of Sbury. So um all of our connectivity is three times redundant. Um we have a a a lot of um technology in
place and the technology today really can identify where callers are right down to feet most times. So um even with cell phones u that technology is there. So, and I I can tell you that we have
the best technology. Uh, Massachusetts, this the the 911 system in our state is probably the best in the country. Uh, and I know that it's slated to get upgraded soon. Uh, and it it will
continue to be the best in the country. But, um, that's a 10,000 foot view. Uh, but I'm h happy to answer any questions. >> Yeah. And um I I think it's important also that you know my understanding the way our system now works is if if our dispatcher is on the telephone when a
call comes in it automatically transfers to another location anyway and the caller doesn't even realize that they are calling in and getting somebody at some other location and that assures that there's instantaneous uh you know communication of an emergency or what
have you. So it's already happening. It's just that this would be a permanent transfer. I think it's also important that I will point out that um this agreement should be begin to enter into it um can be entered into under the authority of the select board directly
and that um it does not require town meeting approval and um it's an intermunicipal agreement that we would enter into and it would be uh the appropriations for it would be required by town meeting as anything is with our
budget but the actual authority party to move into such an agreement is not uh required to be approved by by a town meeting vote and is under the authority of the select board. So that's what we're here for this evening is to uh we can ask some questions and then if we
are comfortable we can give authority to uh the town administrator to begin on behalf of our behalf to uh submit a letter of interest to begin the process to get us towards this. So, uh, members of the board, are there any questions
that you may have? Mike, I'll start with you. >> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Hook for your presentation. I appreciate that. Just one question and u although this is more for the uh town administrator,
the the process by which we um came to chose to choose Hullbrook. Could we just clarify were there any other viable choices and if so what made Hullbrook stand out from those choices? >> Uh if you will Mr. Chair then um so Mike
I was approached by our police and fire chief who introduced me to Mr. and regional dispatches out of Hullbrook. Um so I I can't speak for the chiefs that this came out of their recommendation. I think it's a valid question. I will go back and ask the chiefs um if there was other sort of alternatives. My
expectation is that although there may be other alternatives, even as Mr. Hook pointed out the distance, you might assume with this regionalization, they're already doing our neighbor suburb. So, I'm I'm relatively confident and from a few times I've already met Mr. Hook that that this is a good fit
for us. Either way, I think it's I think you're right to sort of um be thorough and I can I can follow up with the chiefs. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hook. >> Thank you, sir. >> Anything from here? Yeah. No, any questions? >> No, I think my questions were answered
at the um last time this was uh in front of the board a month ago, but Mr. Hook, thank you for the presentation. I think the regionalization makes sense and I think the opportunities for costsaving while still improving while improving services is a pretty unique thing. So, um in favor?
>> Okay. Um is there a desire to make a motion? I will move to authorize the town administrator on behalf of the select board and the town of mayor to submit a letter of interest to the state 911 department and Holbrook public safety
communications regional PSAP/NORK county control in pursuit of regional PSAP membership and also authorized use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. >> Okay, the motion's made in sec. Mike, do you have any questions or comments based
on the motion? Nope. >> Any other questions? Hearing none. Mike, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Jeff, >> yes. Nine. Yes. As well. So, we're on our way to >> Awesome. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr.
>> Thank you very much. >> All right. Uh the next item on the agenda, as we've mentioned over the last several meetings, um we've begun to have department level overviews that we have at our meetings. So we get some insight in the public and have some insight into
what's going on in our community outside of the select board. And tonight we have the manned public library here along with a couple of members of the uh of the trustees. Indeed. >> Welcome. You guys are welcome to come up
too if you'd like. Um hold on one second. >> Great. And uh Greg, hi Greg Wilson. So, Greg, I'll let you know. I'll just say out loud when to switch the slide. >> Perfect. Thank you.
>> So, thank you very much for inviting us to visit you again this year. We really appreciate the opportunity and your interest. And as you can see in the audience, there are two of our trustees, Francis Wyman and Chris Ree. Francis is the chair and is the secretary. Jane
Hilly was going to join online, but I don't see her there. uh she is our third trustee and the presentation will be brief that beautiful word brief. Uh I'll begin by mentioning a few of the accomplishments that have happened at the library over the past year and then talk about some upcoming goals.
>> Tell me you are >> Oh, sorry. Uh so I didn't assume it's terrible. I'm Jean Magcguire, library director. >> All right, Greg. Thank you. >> I should have made that introduction. >> No, no, sometimes go online.
>> Thank you. Uh, so we've just completed um the year-long mind in the making grant project which has been transformational for our children's services and I'm going to talk more about that in a little bit but the grant was uh $15,000 in federal funds as
administered by the Massachusetts Board of Library Commissioners and it's part of the LSTA library service and technology act grants. Um, these grants are again federal funds and extremely beneficial to communities around the country and we're really hoping they
will continue along with other good work done by the Institute of Museum and Library Services who are the ones who distribute the funds for those grants. Uh, we were thrilled to learn bullet point number two here. We were thrilled to learn that we had some of the highest circulation increases among all the 36
public libraries in the Minute Man Library Network. We attribute part of that uh as well as a higher visitation number. in addition to circulation uh to the enhancements to the children's area which are definitely attracting more families more frequently. Part of it we attribute to the increased number of
programs that we held and part of it to the continued higher visitation from STO patrons that were seen as their town library continues to be under construction. Uh, as I just mentioned, we increased the number of events we held, including extra programs we offered as part of the
children's grant project and the community information fair. We had the return of the Mayor Book Festival, which was a really exciting part of this past year. We had about 300 people come to that and we're going to do another one next year. Uh, and the staff just continues to amaze me with, you know,
how ambitious they are and how much they do. When we launched our new strategic plan in 2023, we had set the goal of 50% of the town population having library cards. And for context, 50% is considered a very strong number in the public library world. Uh we we wanted to
increase the resident card holders by about 400 residents and we're now almost 3/4 of the way there. So just got 134 more to go. We want to aim even higher with our next strategic plan. And uh
Greg, you can go to the next slide. So our the grant I mentioned was for additional children's programming and for enhancements to the third floor play area and play materials. The project's focus was children ages 0 to six. And its goal was to make a more accessible,
inviting educational and stimulating play space and play experience and to offer programs that helped children develop their motor skills and their communication and interaction skills. So, I have to say it's been one of the most rewarding experiences in my time here uh to work with staff members Casey
and Mark uh to make these enhancements and to see children and their adults embracing the changes with so much enthusiasm. There's more space for children to play together and for families to gather with other families, which has encouraged an increase in playdates being held at the library. There's improved ability for parents to
monitor and interact with their children while the children are playing and the parents are selecting books. There's improved access to the play space for individuals with mobility issues, which was a big need from before. The library has become a major play destination for more families with enough toys, learning
materials, and spaces to occupy them for hours, and it gives families an alternative to play or recreation options that they might have to pay for elsewhere. This is all free. Uh we ran a public survey before the project, which was invaluable in guiding us in the
decisions we made during the project. And we ran a survey for the last part of the project. And the comments you see on the screen come from that survey. One of my favorites uh at the bottom there is I absolutely love all the additions and small spaces to play and explore. Very
impressed and proud to be a food. So uh it's just it's been great. I'm really grateful for the grant funding and it also uh inspired the friends and an anonymous donor to give money to make the project have even more impact. So that's what happens when you do this the
projects often it's free great free community. So next slide. So what's planned for next year and beyond? Believe it or not the library uh will be celebrating 20 years at its Nason Street location next year. Uh so we'll have some activities surrounding
that working with the friends of the library. We'll have some commemorative items available for the public. The capital project of the wall and window repair on the north side of the building will happen next year and that bidding process is going to begin very soon. And as the building reaches 20 years old, of
course, there are other repairs beyond this wall and window which will need to be addressed and we'll work with the capital planning committee and DPW and Greg on planning for those needs. At tonight's library trustees meeting, we were joined by two members of Capcom who gave a very helpful presentation about
the town's planning for capital improvements. uh which was excellent and reassuring and great to work with. Uh we're already working to build on the improvements and momentum generated by the children's grant project. Uh so there will be some of that programming that will be continuing some
partnerships that we made in that that will continue um and some solicitation of more friends and donor funds to to build on that success. will be sending welcome packets to newer residents to make their make sure they're aware of
the many free library services which are available to them. Our last public survey uh was in which included questions about programming was in 2022. So, it's time for us to get more feedback from the community on how we're doing and to get that feedback on a more
regular basis. We want to make sure residents interests and needs are reflected in our program. So, we're going to be working together, the staff and I, on how we want to implement that evaluation system on a regular basis. And in that 2022 survey, the number one
new thing the community wanted to see from the library was more open hours. So, that is still to come. Addressing it is still a matter of just having more human resources. So, with the town's help, we hope to add more staff hours and expand our schedule in the future. And most importantly uh and what has
proven to be a challenging time for libraries nationwide. We'll continue to work with town, state, and federal officials to ensure funding for the library services people value and depend on and the right people to make their own reading choices.
And with that, I'll I'll take any questions or comments. Thank you, Greg Wilson, for your help with the slides. >> Thank you so much for the presentation. Um, Mike, do you have any comments, questions? >> Well, first of all, I confess that uh,
as some of you know, I'm traveling and I do have a couple of library books, but a bit overdue now, but I will have them back at the weekend. Um but more seriously uh Jean, thank you for everything that you do and at a time when most of us are aware that libraries are under threat in many parts of the
country and we should not take uh too much for granted the the services that are offered here in May. I believe that the library is is one of our most precious jewels that we we have in the town for what they do for the community. So thank you very much uh Jean and all
of your staff. I think it it's it's just really important that we as a town support a vibrant library as part of our community. So, thank you. >> I'll pass that along. >> Thanks, Mike. >> No, just thank you. Thank you for the
presentation. Thank you for the work that you do. You clearly run a really fantastic organization and I've enjoyed it with my kids also. So, do thank you for that. >> No questions. I'll I'll add my sentiments. It was nice to hear about the focus on on children and families in there while also focusing on literally
going to Capcom meetings and and the you know behind the scenes stuff about making sure the the infrastructure of the building I think you said well 20 years you guys have been in there the building is older than that um uh certainly cheaper than building a new building of that sort. So, I'm glad we're we're taking care of the physical
infrastructure and then being creative about what we're doing with the space inside and how we're continuously adapting and with surveys on a quicker basis on uh staying more in touch with the public on on what the current needs are as well. So, uh you got a really great team and I'm appreciative of all of you including the trustees who came
out tonight too. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you. Uh, I would add that I was um honored 15 years ago, no close to 15 years ago now, to speak at the 5year anniversary, fivey year birthday,
pardon, of the library, and I am hopeful that I will be in attendance at the 20 year anniversary of the uh library. Um, the libraries are the hub of the community. their hub of
you know it's where people learn people find things people explore people gather um so the libraries are extremely important not only here in Maynard but but throughout our country um I I should
point out um when I have a 25-year-old daughter who is a merciferous reader she reads about a hundred books a year if not a little bit more and She got her love of reading from Mr.
Mark >> um who is still here and still um active with the children and gives the kids as much excitement about reading as he did 23 years ago when she was a two-year-old
girl and was so excited to get her her library card. He made a big deal about it. I think she might have been five so it was probably 20 years ago. um you know the big celebration. I saw it down at the farmers market this summer where he was there uh giving out uh library
cards blowing the horn blowing. It's amazing. And that type of thing that we it's before they even get to school um where they're learning the love of reading and exploration like that. So, and I know that's not news that you guys
have a staff that's amazing. He's not the only one. Um, so I want to say thank you to um the Maynard Library. Thank you to uh members of your staff and to those who help keep the library going as strong as it is. So thank you very much
and thank you for the presentation. >> Welcome. Thank you. And your daughter is almost caught up with Greg in the number of books you read every year. >> 100 books. Yeah. She she writes a um book that she has called Molly Reeds or something like that that she summarizes
um some authors send her stuff. >> Well, Mark will be glad to hear that if he doesn't. >> Oh, yeah. I speak to him periodically when I see him and he always asks about my girls. So, it's I mean he I don't know how he remembers these kids. Hey, kids. >> Yeah. And early literacy was a big part of that grant project we did. That was a
real emphasis like you said, you know, before kids even get to school. >> Yeah. Well, thank you all very much. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. Um we have on the topic next special town meeting and specifically um
we were going to talk about the water capital improvement project. Um we got a lot of information. Justin, I just want to say thank you. Um but we don't have all that much time. So
if we can try to keep the presentation to as much of minimal as possible. This is a very very important topic not only to the board but to our residents and it very well may um require a special
meeting on this topic itself. But I would ask you if you could give us the sort of the high level water capital improvement presentation and whoever is here to speak with you of course you're welcome. and uh sort of where things are heading,
where we're looking at, what our plans are, etc. This is also it's tied in with our in our special town meeting because we have an article that's transferring some funds over to um to from uh lawsuit covering some money
on. >> So, there's some money being transferred. We'll have a similar brief conversation at town meeting. I hope we get to um hopefully the moderator allows for it and we can push through. Um so anyway, welcome all of you. Take it away
and uh again I don't I don't want to stifle the conversation but I also don't want it going on for all that long because we'll lose the audience. >> Members of the board totally understand. Justin Mar, public works director. I'm joined by a colleague of mine. >> Hi I'm May Shere. I'm the senior product
manager at SC Tech. >> Well, we're also joined by >> Hi, I'm Billy Blaz and data manager. >> Um, so yes, we'll be brief. Um, our topic tonight, our our central focus actually should be wrapped around our master plan in our presentation as it is
also a requirement of DP to get this done part of our sanitary survey. So, I'll try to be very quick. Typically, we make this presentation to a larger audience that doesn't know much about our um our entire system. So, we can bypass that aspect. we move on to the agenda.
So, I'll give a quick systems overview, a quick challenges um aspect of what may is dealing with and then a um I will actually pass it off to May to get into some of the technical details. So, I know the board is aware, but for the audience that's listening online and
behind us, um the town of Ma operates a water system that has three isolated treatment plants. When I say isolated means we're not connected to a regional situation. We're not tied in to any of our neighbors in regards to sharing water like a water district. Um we're self operating and we have roughly about
4,000 customers. We actually have 4,400 customers, but we have about 4,000 dwellings that we service. um that actually has we have two storage tanks that help kind of um with our pressure situation for fire suppression and to provide pressure to your taps to make
sure that you have proper pressure to meet DP standards. Um and a little aspect or a little unknown feature is we also have an a source a service water source that's located in Sbury that technically currently right now is not in operation and it hasn't been for over
20 years and that's Whites Pond. But we're going to discuss all of our assets today. Please continue. Um so I a little overview. Um outside of just our treatment plant, we have over
58 miles of um water distribution piping that spreads throughout 99% of our community. Um we pro we pretty much are a uh completely serviced community. We have some isolated um dwellings on the edges that may have their own private
wells typically right around the shore a excuse me area. But um for the most part we service almost every single one of our residents with our water and sewer system. Um and we actually have a very old system. Maynard is is one of the original systems for both water and
sewer. And uh we have a lot of our mains that date back to 1935 that are still in operation today. What are the red dots on that map? >> Yeah, go back. Yeah, the red dots are a lot of our fire hydrants and our gates. Correct.
>> So, the red dots are all fire hydrants and then the larger black ones are made valve gates and then the smaller black ones are hydro. >> Thank you. >> Just an overall visualization really. >> Yeah. I just wanted so that public watching correct and we can go into
detail whenever the public comes outside of that as well. So, continue please. And so the challenges that may face, we face a deteriorating water quality issue as you can tell from some of our discoloration and our T TTHM failures as
of recent. We also suffer from an extreme lack of water supply. Uh our wells are drying up, i.e. our pumping capacities are meeting um our demand capacities and we're starting to go on the opposite end of being able to produce enough water to meet the current
day demands and future day demands and we'll discuss that a little more. The drivers of that is our continued residential and commercial development and more modification from a lot of commercial developments towards residential use. That comes with a tenfold increase when it comes to water
and sewer demand. So just know even when we have a change of use like we did at I mean crossing from digital to a mixeduse situation we're looking at a 10fold increase when that happens. >> Sorry 10fold from like commercial industrial to residential today. >> Correct. Yep. Exactly. We're also
contending with an ultraaggressive moving goal post of regulations. So I've been in the industry a long time. We're actually joined way way back by Gary's been in the industry for a very long time. Some know him as well even to the same time. Um over the last five years both EPA and DP have been
ultraaggressive with their regulations and policies more so that it is becoming a fact where smaller utilities are kind of falling behind to meet those regul regulation deadlines or uh for issues such as PAS TTHMs you name it there are
leading copper etc. So smaller utilities with all the resources and capacity um in regards to funding um and human resources are having trouble keeping up with the ultraaggressive regulations. So we're trying to look at a proactive plan that we can kind of predict this and
build our system to actually insulate and redundancy to avoid some um regulation changes in the future that continually add a reactionary cost ineffective approach that may has traditionally been doing over the last
10 20 years. Um, and then like any small community, we're we're serviced by 4,000 customers that have to that have to pay for an entire system that includes three water driven plants and over 50 uh 30 million miles of pipes. So, what do we
do and what is our goal and how do we proactively position ourselves for success now and in the future and that is where we bring forth a master plan. Our master plan is a convergence of several iterations of plans that the
water utility has executed over the last 10 20 years with additional processes put forth. So you may hear in the past some white ponds transmission study. You may hear in the past from myself the four-phase capacity improvement projects
that we were going on. The master plan brings all of that into one house document. It is a convergence of our overall goal set for our water system. And so when it comes to a lot of the conversations we're having with constituents, they want to know what is
the time. A lot of the time frame is challenging because the time frame isn't completely controlled from acquiring money today and executing tomorrow. There's other authorities and roles that come into play. Funding can be very challenging. We're looking at 60 hundred million projects here. And those numbers
alone aren't the funding gap or the funding delay. We're looking at design, development, permitting processes that could be up to5 to 7 million. That is the initial hurdle. That can take one to two years to acquire and allocate those funds and they come in many different
ways. When we talk about permitting, we have a regulatory environment that is um that that allows for the approval of onboarding new sources in treatment process that is mass department of environmental protection. Permaning for
specific projects can take up to four to five years. A recent uh brand new well8 which was previously classed by the global 4A took almost four and a half years to get through permitting before we could even execute the contracts. And then implementation uh can be quite challenging as well. These are very
complex projects. If we bring we're building a brand new treatment facility as indicated in the massive plan like old Marvel road area that can take up to two to four years to go through the construction bidding process i.e. very similar to the green metal school. It is that size and scale and capacity. So when we talk about an immediate solution
it's very challenging to say that even if we were to acquire $60 to $100 million today there is still a time delay to when we execute and have a finalization. And that is an aggressive timeline if we had money today. Next please.
When we talk about executing that timeline and uh an efficient and effective means i.e. making this our number one priority it is a multistake divide that what I mean by that is you have your utility your department that is working diligently every day. We also
need stakeholder buyin. We're talking about the select board the water commissioners i.e. also the select board fincom capital committee. We need the school committee. We need our legislative body town meeting. We need our state reps, our representatives, our
state senator, our governor's office. We also need our federal reps. We talked to a lot of our federal representation because this is going to be a herculean task to execute this master plan. And it will take all stakeholders from the federal government to the municipal government working together to
collectively converge on this process. Now, that does not mean that we can't make improvements along the way. The master plan actually indicates short-term, medium, and long-term solutions to all of the issues that we have. Um, please continue.
Um, when we're talking about permanent, it's the very same situation. We need to leverage our state and local uh leadership to support and and converge with our regulatory agency which is mass. There's a times we also need to have that collaboration from a higher
level which is the EPA environmental protection agency which is under the federal government. Again, collective cohesion, understanding the drive and the commitment in a unified approach allows us to move things um efficiently. um implementation really comes down to
the local level, right? So allocation of funds, identifying those either through local grants or a combination of both which for our success will be a ultra uh convergence of many allocations of buckets of funding such as the PAS
funding, the recent grant awards funding, localized uh free cash, etc. Bonding. We will have to converge all of these to execute this project. So this is where we can kind of talk about our immediate issues of the
challenges today in which a lot of our consumers are concerned with that actually tie into the master plan. We have a significant amount of water breakage or water mane breaks that is caused by the aging pipes that those water mane breaks can result in dirty water which is something that our
consumers are dealing with and have dealt with over the past several months. We also have distribution system water quality issues that are uh causing our system to actually violate the TTHM rule and that is actually we are about to launch another consumer notice. So Q2
numbers are higher than the excuse me Q3 numbers are higher than ours. So we will also have that continuation until we resolve those issues. Um we with these approaches we continue to take a reactive approach to resolving one issue
at a time which is very cost inefficient and we are converging our master plan to not only take on the challenges today and a very reactive approach where we hybrid towards a forward thinking proactive approach while making sure that we handle a toz if that makes
sense. Please continue. Um just the general overview if you're unaware and the community is unaware all of our water resources come from ground wells. We do have one surface water site pond that is inactive. So all of our current water sources come from ground
wells. This is an example of that of that process. Two of our treatment plants are traditional gravel back wells which is old malaria and green metal and then our third treatment plant rockland which is our heavier producer is a bedrock wall source. Can we hold on that
slide just for a second? The proposed new wells in the old Marlboro region, which category would they fall under? The gravel. >> They would still be gravel pack. So what would be different between them and the current well? >> So not much. So part of that is the well and the quality of water would be
exactly what we are dealing with now. The treatment plant would be designed to handle that quality of water. Not only for the current wells that are having trouble meaning our treatment process having trouble >> the current wells being old the current old Margar well >> and green >> and green metal the same that's the
conquer river basin. So right now our treatment plant in road was designed over 40 years ago to handle different kind of well water. So instead of exploring wells because we don't we have a limited land mass we have to utilize the sources that we have which is that
conquer river basin aquifer. What we do know about that site, Jeff, is that the amount of water in that river basin for us in our balance is the most plentiful source left for us. Meaning there's a larger capacity is >> relative to the rock source.
>> Yeah. But the issue is the treatment process is so complex which is the highest cost. >> Talk to me about permitting. Is there worries about the aquifer in general in terms of when we get to the permitting process with the state? >> Absolutely. So what most people don't understand is we're and we'll go through
that a little bit but our master plan really highlights this is what maintenance suffers from isn't just the ability to actually withdraw and and meet our demands for the future. It deals with an aquifers and our aquifer systems that are having issues with
critical drug and environmental impacts. Right. So to your point is if we have more wells on line. So if we drill two, three, four more wells, those wells are actually needed for contingency when one well goes down just to meet our current
day demand. And we will pursue advancements and allowance in pump rates above our 20-year withdrawal permit from D. But there is a significant amount of past experience through multiple utilities such as ours where D is not
allowing 20-year permits to pump more than what was allowed 20 years ago. So a lot of the challenges we're facing are for contingency and treatability. But if we can prove to DP that there is a housing issue component to that, they
may allow us if we can prove with with new um new well sources with higher capacity that they may adjust our 20-year allowance permit higher, but that's a gamble. A lot of what we're going through right now is going to be redundancy and treatability and MWA and
intervasive transfers long way away is where we actually would see the potential of our permit capacity increasing. >> Wait, MW? >> Yes. So >> that's a different gun right now. So Rockland A, we're not worried about that um because that's in
an aquifer. >> It's in a different aquer. >> It's in a different aquifer. When we get to the medium-term plan for old Margo well testing, we is there a risk that we will have is there a risk? Are you going to ask us to invest costs not knowing whether or not the permitting will be
allowed? >> The permitting will most likely be allowed the increase in our pumping allowance meaning the the 1.09 MGD that we're allowed. >> Okay. But same same concept. The state is going to come in and say, "All right, fine. You can build, but you can't pump for it. We're not going to build
>> without talk without speaking for D. I would say with 90 to 95% confidence that they will allow new wells for our redundancy gap. They're well aware of our redundancy gap. What I am not confident in is that they will allow us
to actually present an increase total allowance of pumping meaning town. >> Pull more water. >> Yes. And that's going to be based on overall aquifer demand in the region. >> Yeah. and they review that from an entire basin perspective. So other straws, other communities, what those
pump rates are. >> So given we wouldn't start that process for a few more years, is there anything in the works in other communities that we can look at as a signal to whether or not the state would allow us to increase that? There's a reason I brought up historically over the last 20 years and
uh NASDP has actually not granted a significant amount of increases to overall water capacity demands unless there is a clear path forward that has a solid redundancy plan, an aquifer that allows for excessive pumping and interconnection plans. So that go kind
of goes to that MA process. >> And what do we know about this aquifer? The one that's on the southeast side of town. Conquered River Basin has been a stressed aquifer for almost 30 years. So, and it's only getting more stress the more broad. So, that's why there's long-term solutions to future growth
demands that are also highlighted in this. Thank you. >> Um, so we are >> and sorry, sorry, Lindsay. MWR is what you're talking about in that last sentence. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Sorry. Go ahead, Lindsay. >> That's okay. Um so we are looking part of the plan includes drilling new wells
at OMR without the treatment. >> Yes and no. So technically FA it's still a phase plan. So the next phase in front of you would be to explore new wells at Rockland to have treatments that is actually designed to produce water at a
rate higher than what it's currently pumping. meaning the treatment plant's already at less capacity than it can actually treat. >> So part of the confusion here is we acquired a $2.3 million grant for an emerging contaminant grant process that
provided us funding for PAS mitigation design. Our system is blended, meaning each treatment plant pumps into the system so that there's a convergence. So we're able to use the 2.3 million to design the PAS treatment processes for all three treatment plants, but that
only presents really a 50% design for Rockland and Omar Road. We need to find additional funding to finish the other 50% of Rockland, other 50% of Omar Road. In an order of operations, our 50% allocation of localized funds will go to
Rockland to move on phase two, which is Rockland, to put new wells online so that we meet today's current demand needs and contingency process while also implementing new PAS technology for our largest producer. While we're also
advocating for other funding to help bridge that gap with the 50% of other design aspects for old Marvel Road and Green Metal to be combined and eventually that's that 60 to $100 million plan. >> I hope that helps. I know there's some
some confusion when it comes to that. Correct. >> We can move on. My my my my concern always is um when we start talking of funding aspect um because we cannot rely on federal >> at all uh especially in this environment
that we live in today um and we based on what I'm hearing cannot rely on state funding in the near term u partly due to the prior federal funding. not
coming through to the state >> and we certainly cannot rely on local funding to meet this kind of cost demand >> right >> upon our local residents. So we have that's I know I'm speaking to the choir
>> that's where we have a real issue as to how we get this accomplished relative to affordability. So David within the master plan we accounted for all those contingencies including funding mechanisms right so part of that process is why we have
actually allocated a significant amount of resources to multiple funding sources to your point David so in the earlier slide I know it was hard to read but we talked about all of the all of the allocation or funding resources that we could target the reason that I made the
comment that this is going to actually have to take multiple different tanches or buckets of money to accomp accomplish. That's where that multistakeholder buyin is going to come into play. The only way for Mayor to move this forward is not 100% reliance on a customer base, not 100% reliance on
federal government, not 100% on state. It will take a combination of all to converge on a very efficient appropriate method. That is something that we built into the master plan and we're well aware of that. We still we still believe and I will say our $2.3 million grant is
punching above Mayor's weight. So I think what I would like all who are listening to resonate fully is Maynard has maximized a lot of its state and federal leverage. Now, it is time for us to focus our localized funding resources
and prioritization in a multi-tered approach, whether it's not just relying on rates, but also alternative localized funding opportunities and making sure that we're we're structuring that where we're not bonding for $2 million a
design that we pay for a design for 30 years. That's an inefficient use of our finances, right? So the biggest hurdle that we have in front of us isn't the hundred million or the $60 million treatment plan. It's actually the design money. When we get through the design
money, we're shovel ready. We can leverage state revolving funds and whiff loan funds which are always going to be there whether you vote red or blue. Those programs have been around for 100 years. Those programs are still in place. We have no indication that
they're chang. The buckets of money and availability has done this. that has always traditionally done that. They are loan programs that always get repaid. So they are circular like an enterprise fund. Both federal and state government utilize these because they lock on and
utilize that interest to offset other projects. So once we get to that point, these programs have always been designed only fund water and sewer infrastructure programs or projects such as ours at a low interest to almost principal
forgiveness loan. And when I say low interest, they're typically 2%. So those will be our target. Our hurdle in front of us today and for the next few years is finding the money to bridge the design gaps and that's why it's always been a phased approach. So we'll
continue. And so thanks. May I start? >> Sure. Um so I'll really quickly run through what the water availability situation is. So if we click, we can focus on Old Mar Road. Um at the very
far right column, you can see that we're using 41% of the permitted capacity at Old Mar. That is because we throttle the wells. We do that because the water quality of the raw water is difficult for the existing system.
At Green Meadow, we are using a good fraction of the permitted well capacity, but there are special permit conditions that kick in most of the year, and we would expect to kick in in the future. That would require you to pump at half of the permitted capacity.
When you look at Rockland Avenue, you're pumping between 40 to 60% and that's because of the drought condition. >> Is that over a year? >> It's on an average. Okay. Thank you. So zeroing in on Old Road, your
permitted capacity at this site is 87 million gallons per day that you can pump. Um this is a site where you could get more capacity. We think 1.8 million gallons per day in total. Um however again the water quality. So we've turned
off well three because the quality there is so difficult to treat. Uh so you have rein sand filters there which are put in place to treat iron and maganganesees. Those are the things that caused the coloration in the water and that was fine at the time they were put in but
the water quality is decreasing now. So I have a table here that summarizes what the water quality is at your various wells. At well one and one a you have a maximum iron of 5.2 2 milligrams per liter and the secondary maximum
contaminant limit is 0.3 milligrams per liter. So that's much higher. That FMCL that's not an enforced standard. That's a recommended standard. >> Well, sorry. When did we take well three offline? >> Almost 15 years ago. >> Thank you. >> Yeah.
>> Um for manganesees for well one and 1A you're looking at 1.9 milligrams per liter maximum when the SMCL is 05. And your total organic carbon, that's the stuff that causes your disinfection byproducts such as total
trielomemethanes. Um that's at 7.7 milligrams per liter. That is considered high. Above one is considered. So you can see um looking at well three, we're magnitude higher than that. So that's why that well came offline. And
there were two test wells drilled at this site. Those test wells also have very high iron in them. So the takeaway here is if we are to put new wells into service there, we can't use the existing grain sand filters. We need to put in a
more robust treatment system. Looking at Green Meadow, we have very similar water quality. Um but there uh pumping the wells from Green Meadow impacts the wetland water level in the area. And there is a special permit
condition that says that that wetland level in the summer needs to be 1.78 feet. If you drop below that, you cannot pump more than half your permitted capacity. So you're running out of even if you have water there, you're not allowed to pump it. If you look at the
winter, sorry, if you look at the winter, that level is a little bit lower. So you can drop down to 1.25 before that permit condition kicks in. And you can see from the graph the water level drops quite a bit. Um where that flat line is we've dropped
below the instrument that can actually measure the water level. So we're expecting this to be a problem most of the year. Um next slide. Uh this is just a graph showing what the water production at Rockland Avenue is. So you
can see starting 2018 onwards they're not getting a lot of water out of those wells. The drought is really impacting them. So looking at the availability, we now need to think about what the increasing
water demand is. So we know there's growth um growth is good for a community, but the infrastructure needs to keep up to support it. So what we did was we projected growth in two different phases. If you look at what's going on today, the most complete data that we
have is for 2024 and most recent. So in 2024, you had an average day demand of.74 million gallons per day and a maximum day demand of 1.43 million gallons per day. We took that and
projected it to 2045 based on the known developments that you have planned. Once you take those known developments, your average day demand is expected to be 1.11 million gallons per day and your maximum day demand 2.05 million gallons
per day. >> That's a good question. >> You say known developments and you think that have been permitted already? >> No. Things that have been presented for approval that have been denied. So the thousand units that have been denied over the last year plus. So we are approached by developers quite often do
special per >> so like the cutting properties >> cutting 40B main Beijing Royal School all of these developments in front of you that's projected if we were to approve all those Y. >> Yeah. So the important number here um I
mentioned 1.11 average demand that exceeds your maximum withdrawal limit for on average for the year that is 1.09 09 million gallons per day. So at that point you have maxed out your local sources of water unless you can convince
mass DP to let you utilize more water sources. So that point forward you need to start thinking about bringing in water from a different source possibly MW is one thing you consider. So when we're planning for that future, we want
the MWA connection or whatever other connection to look at not just what we would expect in 2045, we then project it forward again to uh 2075 knowing that the demand will still probably grow.
>> So the growth between 2045 and 2075 is just speculative based on population >> that actually are more realistic. That that's based on that's based on developers approaching this town >> with 2045 was based on developers.
>> Yeah. And then after that it's a historical growth pattern that we look at. >> So it's just the trend what you're projecting. >> Yeah. >> So in addition to those demands we alluded to the need for resiliency and redundancy. So when we're trying to
decide what we need to build for, we define resiliency as meeting the future maximum day demand with the largest water treatment plant out of service. And that's important because regulations are changing. There's all sorts of reasons you might need to take a whole
entire water treatment plant down. Um so we want to plan for that. So at the next slide, um we did talk look a little bit into wife pond and reactivating that as a water source to supplement the groundwater. Uh we found
we did a 2021 feasibility study that found that it would cost about $46 million to place white pond back into service. White pond also has PAS. So that includes the cost of treating the PAS. It also includes the cost of constructing a new transmission main
through the Aphabet um wildlife refuge and that's challenging because there's possible contamination there and environmental resources that would be impacted. Um again, this isn't going to help us overcome the 1.09 09 million gallon per day withdrawal limit because
White Pond is included in that >> presumably too relative to Whites Pond um and transmitting water or transferring or whatever the word might be getting water to Mayor >> um we have although we have right of way
presumably um my understanding is that if we run into any environmental issue at all if there's a turtle that shows up or a snake that shows up that's on the endangered list that's on that transmission line. All bets are off. Time out. You have then hearings,
Congress, and everything else relative to uh whether or not we can proceed. So, what thought we thought would be a two-year project turns into a 10-year project at a minimum. >> So, I actually want to add some context to that. David, we actually don't have a legal
>> and we found that throughout the study. >> You don't have a legal permit to transfer. Correct. We'd have to apply for that. We have a we have a pipe in the ground. We never were able to acquire because at the time it was an army entry. We do not have a legal easement. Um and we are aware that Ever
Source also has an active gas line does not have a legal easement through that property and has been in court for over 10 years and is still not resolved that issue. Um and it has been trans such transferred from the US military into the state department with a significant
amount of environmental protection which was added to that as well. So there is a significant amount of challenges here. So even the PAS is made as indicated if you're not aware that's also adjacent to the former firearming academy and there is significant PAS in the ground
surrounding the whites pond and as Greg and I alluded to in the recent meeting they are still talking about mitigation issues for potential spread. So this is a very risky location. >> So we'd have to build a treatment facility at that location presumably not
once it gets to Mayor. I guess you can do it then too, but presumably >> combine surface treatment with ground source treatment. The regulations differ. >> So you have to do it at that location. >> Potentially we could potentially transition water issues not only with
the feds and the the state but also the town in which it sits where they'd say, "Oh no, you can't have that here. We're looking at a huge issue relative notable. >> The best way to look at it is one
million bond is still within our 1.09 permit. Even activating at $46 million at potential conservative uh values means that we never increased their orders.
So that's why Rockland is more appropriate. It was half the cost to get us to launch is going to be off the table as >> never off the table because it's an asset. So, it could still play a role with contingency if MWA fizzles out if we're never able to create a a district
in which we have other connections. It is an asset that's owned by the town, which is why it will always be. relative to yes any shortterm or even medium-term >> it has always been recategorized as
phase 4 and then phase four has been recategorized as 4 A as MA and 4B as white that's the best way to look >> yeah and that's that's important for public for the members of the public to hear because we I think I and I'm sure
my colleagues hear all the time well why don't we just pull out white bond well you can contaminated too expensive. >> Exactly. >> But we did include it. Like I said, this master plan is convergence of all plants put into one. Right. For that conversation. So please
>> I'll just point out some of the numbers for soil and water contamination in and around white pond. So uh groundwater in the area is as high as 14,200 parts per trillion of poth, one particular type of
path. And then uh 3,110 parts per trillion of POA wetland sediments, about 9.3 million parts per trillion of POS, and 129,000 parts per trillion of PE boa. That's much higher
than the regulations for drinking water. Four parts per trillion for POS and POA >> exactly >> for EPA. And then Massachusetts has a slightly different number. Um, but this table, which I don't need to go over number by number, but that this shows
what the water quality is in White Pond, there are exceeded. They're not very high exceeded, but we don't know what's going to migrate out of the soil and sediments over time into this area. >> Can I? And again, I don't want to I don't want to change the the the topic,
but the other comments that we hear, at least I do, and I'm sure my colleagues do, is we should sue the state because they are the ones who polluted um Whites Pond through the PAS through the fire station, the fire uh place uh training
program. Um I understand there are a lot of hurdles, put it mildly, relative to that as well. The least of which is that the state said both time it was that it was being utilized, nobody knew it was a pollutant. Therefore, you can't make the claim and therefore it's it's
nonviolent. >> David, you nailed it. >> Um, >> so that's why we're in a class action lawsuit for the manufacturers of Press chemicals. So is in the state of Massachusetts and many other states and communities because the product was sold
>> but not a white pond per se. >> They essentially were sold a product that was classified as environmentally safe and they used it without malice >> and so that will always lose it in court. That's why everybody that is a
utility not everybody but a majority of us are in a class action lawsuit. And the analogy I have got and I had this argument if you want to call it that with a gentleman just the other day was well look at what happened with these cigarette companies. And my point was the cigarette companies could not argue
that they did not know that they were causing cancer to people who were smoking because they had documents within their organization that said they knew this and yet they still sold it. This is not the case with with the chemical that was used at uh as a matter
of fact quite the opposite. They thought >> but you can use that same analogy. So the cigarette manufacturer is the PAS manufacturer. We're all suing to get into that trust. >> Yeah. >> Just the trust award is very small. >> Let's put it that way. >> And that's ultimately what we're all
>> sorry to hijack. I want to be cognizant of the time. So >> I was just going to add that. So when when you guys see a lot of the numbers that we publish on an annual basis, um what we're talking about is that last one that P6. That's a combination uh an average of multiple feedback levels that
we've currently considered with the highest use. >> And one additional situation when we talk about the moving gold post for the regulations changing at an alarming rate. Just so you're all aware, PAS 6 is the first man-made chemical contaminant
that has fallen within the water act as a MCL requirement primary removal. So when I say that as a significant hurdle is a significant amount of the regulatory environment has always been around naturally occurring minerals and
issues such as iron and manganesees in water systems to treat that process for human health. Once the EPA has opened the door for the first man-made chemical that can open the door for a thousand more man-made chemicals that may have an issue. So when we talk you'll start to
see about future proofing. That's why we call this future proofing. We won't know those that next round of that may be um may be on the EPA and BP's radar. All we can do is guess at it which makes this a very reactionary approach. But we've
taken that into consideration and that is that is something that we'll discuss as well. >> All right. So, um let's talk about MW as white pond doesn't seem to be very viable. This is just a map of um what it
could look like if MWR were to expand service into the Metro West areas. So on the right hand side of the map are blue pipes ser those blue pipes exist and they serve the communities in blue. Um all the purple communities could
consider being added to the NWA system and that would occur by building the purple pipes. Maynard would connect into that system by connecting to Sbury and purchasing water from Sbury. So that would involve
building a pump station in Maynard, placing a meter there, and Maynard would own everything downstream of the meter and be responsible for maintaining it. And so the meter would tell you how much you're purchasing from Subbury. So, this is going to take collaboration
with a lot of different communities. Depending on how many communities decide to buy in will determine the cost per community. Uh, it'll also kind of determine where the pipes are laying and what that whole path looks like. So, this is a very long process to get
through all of that. That's not something that can happen in the next five years or probably not even the next 10 years. So that's kind of why um when we think of there's two planning horizons in the master plan now through 2045, the 2045 is kind of the shorter
term uh response for how you can treat your existing water sources. Um for in the interest of time I I'll skip this slide and I'll go to the next one. Um, so this is a graph that's
showing what the gap is between the water supply that you have now in town and the desired resiliency. So the orange the solid orange line is your future maximum demand. That's what you want to be able to meet with your largest water treatment plant offline.
So, right now, based on what you're actually able to pump from your wells, not what's permanent, but what you're able to pump, um, you cannot meet your future ADD, future average day demand with your largest well or water
treatment plant offline. You can't meet your current your present day maximum day demand in any circumstance, and you can't meet your future maximum day demand in any circumstance. On the next slide, we took a look at what might happen if you can add new
wells. Um, so it improves the situation a little bit, but there are still limitations to the aquaer capacity, right? So in this case, you cannot meet your current maximum day demand if you take your largest water treatment plant
offline and you still can't meet your future maximum day demand under any >> new wells here, Rockland, Old Marlboro, or both? both. Yeah. So, um in summary,
what are the takeaways from this? Old Mar Road though it has available aquifer capacity, the water quality has worsened. You can't continue to use those grain sand filters. You need a new treatment plant. Green Meadows has the same water quality challenges and will
also need improved treatment, but you can't pump a lot from the Green Meadows wells due to the wetland uh water level requirement. Rockland Avenue has better water quality, but its aquafer capacity is declining.
So, you can develop new groundwater sources. This is essential actually to closing the resiliency and redundancy gap. um but it's not going to solve the whole problem. So you're going to need to supplement your groundwater with MWRA
or white pawn. Um and in the meantime until you can get to that longer term solution, you need a short-term future oriented solution which I can get into. So when you think about the short-term upgrades, the immediate drivers are
supply which we talked extensively about iron and manganesees. These are the two things that are causing the discoloration. Um, so we would need more robust treatment to handle that. PAS, every single one of these sites has PAS in the
water. So that is a new process that will need to be added. And disinfection byproducts or for example the total trialmethane and we would tackle that by reducing total organic carbon in the raw water. In addition, we did a condition
assessment of the various water treatment plants. Rockland A is nearing the end of its useful life. So, generally speaking, that plant would have needed an upgrade. So, that's another driver. Uh when we think about um other
short-term upgrades that we want to be future facing, we look at areas that we've almost violated the regulation. um that so when uh one of those items is uh one um drives us to implement four log
disinfection. So that is a treatment technique that helps you make sure that your disinfection process is robust and reliable. So that will help us avoid any um type of bacteria that could cause gastroint intestinal illness.
Um there are also some exceedences uh historic exences for lead in the system. Um it did not rise to a violation, but you want to implement a corrosion control system to make sure that that
stays under control. You're not leeching land out of your pipes. Um and we also want to guess at what the future water quality problems are. The way we do that is we looked at the unregulated contaminant monitoring rule. So that um basically is a a list of
contaminants that uh we um that we are requested to test for that may come under regulation in the future. So based on that we get some ideas of what the treatment might need to be. There might be some new PAS compounds that get uh
regulated and there might be a manganese ma maximum contaminant limit enforcable coming in the future. So right now there's a non- enforcement limit. >> Are those um UCMR's more state or federal request? >> Federal.
>> Thank you. >> They usually come at five. >> Thank you. Uh we also looked at what the EPA was reviewing as part of their third sixth year review. So every six years they look at the existing regulations and
they start talking about what might need to change. Um so as part of that we think we might need to worry about halo acetic acids. That's another kind of disinfection byproduct. Um jardia lambia
which is a parasite. Um there might be more regulations around total trihalomemethanes. So they might require us not just to reduce them but to reduce the source of them which is again the total organic carbon and more regulations around
treatment of viruses. So based on that um once you've addressed everything you can in the short term we wanted to look at how do we solve this and solve the supply and quality issue in the long term. On the
one end you can we kind of talked about it's not really possible to use 100% local sources of water supply. Um on the other end you could have 100% reliance on murray water or you could fall somewhere in between.
Um so based on that on the next slide we came up with 14 possible alternatives for how we could uh meet supply safe reliable water. Um this is categorized
into two categories. In blue, we would have a separated green meadows and OMR treatment plant. In gold, you would combine them into one single plant. Within those options, you could either
increase the size of your plant based on maximizing your aquifer capacity or you could leave it the same. And then underneath that, once an MWA connection becomes feasible, you could start to talk about decommissioning your
plants on a schedule that makes sense. So in green is the decommissioning schedule. So next, um this is just numerically what the different alternatives represent. There's uh as I said 14
alternatives. Um, and what we did was we looked at we defined something called a reasonably achievable maximum production rate. What can you reasonably expect to get out of your wells? When you know that and you know the water treatment
plant size you've designed for, you can take the difference, take your largest water treatment plant offline and then you know how much water you need to buy from MW. So that's what this table is doing. It's determining
what size are your water treatment plants and based on that how much water would you need to buy from MW. So on the next slide just to simplify this um we very quickly decided to eliminate the idea of having a separate
OMR and green water green meadows water treatment plant. Several good reasons to do that. Green meadows does not have sewer connectivity. Sewer connectivity is critical for PAS treatment because there's a lot of waste generated when you start up the media. There's a lot of
flushing of the media. So, um we don't have space for large balloons there. Um we don't want to continue to expand or make upgrades at Green Meadows because you just can't pump a lot of the water there. So, it's not uh a good
investment. Um, so that's important. Um, combining treatment will allow us to efficiently expand the system while maintaining existing staff levels and reducing the overall cost of ownership. And so if we can move everything over to
OMR, we end up in a situation where any expansion that might need to happen is in a less constrained area spacewide. um there aren't so many wetlands or other regulated um features in and
around the plant. So, next slide shows we've cut this down then to five alternatives and very quickly we are able to cut those five down into the top two. So, we focused on alternatives nine and 10. We don't want
to have a scenario where we only have one water treatment plant online. uh having at least one local source of water gives you some resiliency and redundancy. And within alternatives 9 and 10, that's where we've upsized the water treatment
plant to maximize aquifer capacity. That's particular we had growth. So th that's what we're going to focus on for the master plan. And then the question is how do you implement this in a phased manner so that you're doing the
work efficiently are making the best use of the money. Um so this road map is showing three types of projects. In orange we have a design project that's meant to look at treatment and water quality. Blue are supply projects and
purple are planning projects. So up front we're going to do the easy lowhanging fruit low lower um less capital intensive work such as implementing potassium per manganate to reduce disinfection byproducts. Um
that's just switching out a chemical that is less likely to form the disinfection byproduct. Um ortho phosphate for corrosion control and implementing a distribution system flushing program. So, those are short-term options that can give you a little bit of help, but they're not
really the full picture or the full long-term solution. To really get to the full long-term solution, in purple, we proposed several studies to make sure that we're doing the work right. um an OMR treatment feasibility study, uh MWR
Metro West feasibility study to determine what the real cost and um process will be for connecting to MWR distribution system water quality analysis and master plan. This one is important because though we will upgrade the water treatment plants to treat the
iron and manganesees that is showing up in the water, there will be legacy iron and magnes in the distribution system pipes that need to be dealt with. So um that needs to happen as well. So just generally without going into
every single item here uh we also need to upgrade the distribution system so that you have proper storage for your future needs. That can happen in a phased manner once we get through the big push of the PAS deadline in 2029. And the
plan is also to look at this master plan every 10 years or so or whenever there's a change in regulation and make sure that our assumptions actually panned out and give us a chance to pivot if something unexpected comes up.
So that's essentially it. Would you like to conclude? >> Yes. So I'll wrap it up quickly. This is usually where I go into a 10-minute speech, but I won't. Um, at the end of the day, we need to stop playing checkers. We need to start playing chess. That's what this master plan is. For too long, man, it has been very
reaction. And not to blame any single person, right? Typically, we have an immediate need. We have a limited amount of resources. We we attack those needs, right? This master plan allows us to continue our reactionary approach to make sure that we're meeting our
stakeholders needs while also shifting to a more proactive look forward and anticipated design and effective approaches moving forward. Right. I'm actually glad that Jeff pointed out and asked the question of when did we um
decommission or turn offline our well three at Old Mama Road and to go back to your question previous do we anticipate that D will allow us to permit new well sources there that well source is there it's already permanent we just need treatment plant upgrades to take that on
board that's a half a million gallons a day pered well source right so when we talk about um resiliency and redundancy and moving forward. There is multi phases here where old mama road essentially has always been the workhorse or the phase three because
that's the one that probably gets us all through retirement and MWA is for our children as I've discussed to the board in the past. But again, we have to plan for the future while taking on the challenges of today. That's ultimately what this plan puts forth. I hope that
this plan is actually something that our community could truly take in, read, go through because it answers so many questions that not only the board receives but our department receives on a daily basis. Um, and we put it into
one centralized document. >> That's it. >> Thank you. Um, Mike, do you have any questions on what you heard? Mike, you're mute. >> You're on mute. >> There we go. I got it now. My apologies.
Um, yeah. So, first of all, just a couple of comments. Um, appreciation for for Justin and Julia and anybody else who was involved in pulling this information together. I think we know that this is extremely complex problem.
I also believe um that this is our most important issue facing Maynard. If we're going to invest in the future then the future isn't going to go anywhere without considerable efforts to this. So my question related to that is um are we
confident that we have enough expertise in Maynard and that we're doing sufficient to maintain expertise to manage these kinds of complex problems in May. And I think that that's really just to highlight what we as a
board need to focus well I say focus on but to to ensure that we have that expertise in in our town. we need to value it in a in a you know very strong way. So um I think that's a question that can
probably answered in the long term but I just wanted to stress that that if we don't value the expertise that we have in town then our problems are going to be uh even more complicated. Um, a more specific question I do have, um, just
related to the the water capacity. I noticed that the the memo from Stannic from August 29th about the 63 Summer Street project stating that an add of 6,500 gallons is
feasible. Um, is this amanable to the developers? I know that we can't provide the water that uh they were hoping for, but um is is that development under threat because of this limitation or is or is that included?
>> Yeah, so I can answer that. So, we included the three most recent development um requests for water capacity demand. Um we approved two of those. One is one summer street. Um the other one is >> 162.
>> Thank you. No, we didn't >> Thank you. 115 Main Street. I wasn't prepared because that was a memo from a while ago. 115 and then so 6163 Summit Street did come to us with a request that was above our capacity. So those memos were put forth to the board for
their consumption that that is really the end of the line. So the last development asking for water is 6163 and the amount that they asked and they have actually exhausted all of our available water and their requests we countered with the amount of water that we have
available based on our analysis that we could provide to meet our current day average demand and our current day maximum demand based on the values that you roughly saw at a very low level in the PowerPoint. They're much more detailed in the in the master plan. So
essentially, Mike, I couldn't answer if the developer is still going to continue with the PNS of that, but we did indicate that they we gave them the allowance, which we typically don't do to developers. We know there's a sensitivity. We have not received a
counter proposal to that at this time. >> No, he hasn't, but u I'm in discussions with the developer. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. >> Um >> Mike, anything else? Well, I guess the other comments, um, I'm not sure how many people we have
online. I think it's about four or five. We have, as far as I can tell, a couple of people in the room there. This is our most important problem, perhaps even more important than um education uh for the long term. Maybe I should just say they're just as valuable as each other.
Um, and I I see that we have uh an initiative with capital strategic solutions for, you know, a PR initiative and and I would just strongly recommend that we all do what we can to bring more people on board for trying to understand
this problem and to to help the the community a appreciate the complexity of what we're facing and what will likely be the long-term future costs. of of bringing this around.
It's going to be hugely valuable. >> Mike, I can speak to that a little if you want. So, yes, part of the so part of the agenda items, I do believe there's some memos indicating that we are on boarding a PR team that specializes in water outreach and education. They are on board right now.
Nicole Figurito is on as we speak u monitoring. Um they are a uh very talented uh PR firm that was highly recommended by the Mass Water Resources Authority which again is a very large institution that um assist water
utilities such as Maynard with moving process and projects like this forward. Mike to your point do we have expertise? We onboard and leverage our consulting team, Stantech, which is in the top five rated engineering consulting firms in the water utility industry, NASA, and
their team spreads all the way to Colorado and ETA all the way to California. So, with the MWA recent contracts, I know it hasn't hit the board yet, but we have awarded the potential MWA feasibility and financial analysis, which leverages more than just
one local and national firm. That is a partnership that actually also is another engineering firm called Kleinfelder who is very well renowned in this in this comm excuse me in this state for assisting and moving forward with MWA connections. We are leveraging
a state and national approach. And to speak even higher to that, Mike, if you're unaware and if the committee or the community is unaware, both myself and May have spoken on this master plan in this presentation at the American Waterworks Association in Colorado in front of a national audience. We just
recently spoke at the um New England Waterworks Association regional event up in Maine in front of our New England colleagues. We actually believe that this will actually be accepted again um at another um process at the AWA's New
England regional event. This was one of um one of the forefronts of a utility of our size and we are forward thinking with this master plan. So we're reaching national and state attention. We are reaching federal and state
advocates along the way as well. >> Thank you Justin and Julia. I appreciate that. Thanks Mike. >> Um, one question, one comment. Uh, question on development. So 6063, I
don't think we've issued a building moratorum or you haven't. >> No. So they are they're the >> 63 is the very last. We cannot accept any more developments of any size at all >> based on that. So it's hard to say. So let's just say they say they walk away
and they don't want to build. So we still have that allocation or water residential >> no water specific >> development residential development or would that include potential any commercial development that
>> so what if you read the memo what we indicated to the developer at the time is they presented a plan we always wait >> no no I'm not talking about that particular project we if we approve that you say we have reached our capacity >> correct >> and that is strictly residential
capacity would not be able to develop and to allow for any commercial development as well as any residential >> the best way we describe it in the industry is any new water connection. >> Okay. >> So if they are a current customer and
they modify and they match what their potential usages that could be an accepted use but any new expansion or capacity demand would be in a moratorum. That is correct. That's where we're working, you know, coming over here with environmental planning and now also, you
know, knowing our planning team, working still really closely with them on really pushing for redevelopment. >> Now, when you hear that word, that does not mean a developer cannot move on a project. They just have to put their own well source in. We do not have a
capacity demand issue to this level under our wastewater process. So, we would be happy to take on new development in our wastewater treatment facility while the town moves forward with demand increases and future connections. So, again, it's a delicate
balance, right? We don't want to close the door to development, but we have to close the door to water and that's where we're at. >> But it's not that's good. It's so just so I understand it sounds like there's lots of variables that might indicate like if a developer came to you guys an existing building in May or they wanted
to knock it down and put like two residential units in it. That's not a hard no right now because there are many variables. >> Okay. >> Yeah. If we and we have all the records on use patterns, right? >> And it's not that's so at whose discretion is that at the water departments? So currently right now it's
ours but the reason that that was put in front of the board is if 6163 comes back and they meet within that capacity we would then issue a motion and a memo to the board with my recommendation that we were to adopt a new water connection
moratorum and that would ultimately you are the policy makers as the water commissioners. It would be your decision to make. strongly would encourage that based on the data that you're going to see from us. >> You have a followup
comment >> uh comments. >> Thank you for this very thorough presentation. I imagine this looks like it's hours and hours of work in synthesizing information. Um, so in is as we're thinking about educating the
public, I'm wondering if going forward the PR like basically if we can take something like this and further distill it because you know as a non-expert but as a person who has been listening to this like my colleagues for a long time
this still was it was I was hard to follow. Not that your presentation was difficult to follow or yours is it's just highly highly complex. And so the average person who's like why is my water brown? This is this is so much. So can you talk a little bit briefly?
>> Absolutely. >> Are the plans to take this and then further distill it for public? >> You got that can be distributed >> over the past week and a half. Um, we've also been positioning for special town meeting and an outreach and education
that is consumable to the average. Um, as we speak, we're we're proofing a trifold that breaks this down in a very simplistic process of the immediate situations with some long-term processes. We've been fully engaged with
Nicole and her team. We've created PowerPoint presentation um uh modifications to add to the potential PAS control article. Again, that is at the discretion of the moderator if they'll accept it or not. I have asked that we also are um provided
a potential table for outreach and education which will house a full master plan for those who want to read it and and uh but we'll also have supporting documentation on a trifold brochure that will literally break it down to a very
simplistic approach with a QR code that leads everybody back to our master planning website for those who want to dig in deeper. So that is already in the works. We anticipate that actually will be ready for special town meeting. Um we'll make sure once we approve those proofs that that gets routed up to David
so that he can at least let the board know even behind the scenes prior to special town meeting. I know we don't have another board meeting. Um but you'll be able to provide comments and feedback if you want. >> Okay, great. Um and sorry, one last question on the PR firm. Um, so are they
tasked with just developing content for us to distribute or are they also going to be helpful with thinking about like communications channels that we're using? >> Oh, so you will see a memo shortly with our entire PR approach. That's we'll disseminate this. Unfortunately, timing
has just kind of been like this, right? I guess what they're essentially doing right now in the interim is they're proofing a lot of our material to help advance that in a easily digestible mode. They're also allowing and this is what they specialize is in visualization
of adaptation to also uh meet ADA requirements. So then a lot of our PowerPoint slides are not only just for easy consumption but they also reach a bigger audience, right? And eventually you'll see an entire plan set that will come across the board with what our overall goal is with our PR firm and our
internal processes. So >> okay, >> you should see that. >> Thank you. >> Um you didn't have the presentation, but can you talk to me briefly about the pre-treatment sort of options I'm looking at in response to discolored water? I'm looking at the oxidation, the
potassium per manganate. What what time scale are we looking at for those? and to let's ignore discoloration treatment through increasing capacity and just focus on those for a second. To what extent do we think those measures may help what residents are seeing? >> All right. Perfect. So what we currently
have right now is if the board can recall we signed a contract for design of our manga system at our green metal treatment facility. That is the only treatment facility that does not have preoxidation wood. Currently right now does in rock. So the
TTAMS is related to this process. So the immediate response to help us reduce and fall in alignment with the minimum contaminant level of our TTHMs is to onboard our peraganate system. We believe the onboarding of the peraganate
system will actually reduce our TTHMs to under the threshold of the MCL. The timeline for that is it's currently right now at 75% design. Once we have 100% design, technically 90% design, we will present that to D who has to
approve that design. >> But that's just the TTHMs. That's not going to help with the discoloration. >> The discoloration issue is a twofold issue as we kind of described briefly. So the discoloration issue is mostly coming from the old model road. >> So So regardless of the cause, are is
there anything kind of these pre-treatments that we're looking at in this method? >> All right. So what the main plan there is increase capacity in terms of >> offset the need for all Mars reliance while we move towards phasing of the
nutrient plant. So if Rockland has new well sources >> and we can pump more from Rockland the cleaner raw water we can reduce some pumping rates in old Mar which could reduce discoloration >> given the drought conditions can we do that that's still a question that is
open and then ditto for the old Marboro wells when those come online those will still have the same >> water quality issues we're looking at that that we were just >> come online without any treatment >> so they will come online with a treatment plan the way
in the 10 year outlook. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So technically right now the thing in front of us is Rockland. We will look with Rockland phase two as what what you previously heard will help reduce the reliance on
that coupled with a new connection moratorum will help contain the cadence of the discoloration. >> Thank you. Um there's uh a listed appendix appendix F with a cost of prioritiz projects but it's just a blank page. Is there
>> Oh, that should be included in the >> Yeah. And we'll make sure that you get that updated. I know we were working with Greg Wilson because the size of the uh file was so big we had to use SharePoint. So we're not sure if everything went over right, but we can update that too. But if you have a question, we could
>> Does that go to the full old Marlboro wells and treatment plant? Does it get that far? Okay. >> Thank you. >> And again, those are still preliminary costs. >> Understood. 10 years out, it has to be. >> Um, no further questions. Thank you very much for your time and for the detailed explanation.
>> Finally, um, I thank you all for your efforts and your presentation. My question is probably very simple. Um, maybe not, but I I sense that it is the water capacity issues. Jeff sort of
touched on it briefly in his I thought was going to be a great segue to my comment because he said relative to the drought conditions. Mhm. >> Do we know how much climate change is playing the role in the issues that we
are facing relative to capacity if at all? And if not, why over time, other than maybe the volume of water that we've had to pull because of development and income growth in town, why are we seeing such a reduction in capacity?
>> They give you a triangle. So it's a conver it's a it's a convergence of environmental impacts i.e. drought. So you have droughts come and go right. So that drains the well up and down. >> We must have had droughts y >> in the last 250 years
>> but droughts are the condition index over the last 10 years that droughts are increasing in capacity. >> So that's >> yep. >> Yep. You could you could argue that's the case and that's one part of that aspect. Another part of the triangle is consistent development i.e.
change in development, right? So, mayor hasn't necessarily exploded in development, but it has taken that drastic tenfold change from commercial over to residential. >> Okay. >> You can also argue. So, when you said, well, is the water quality changing? That is development that's affecting the
aquifer. So, development around the aquifer that we don't always control. Sudbury, other alternative factors, PAS is in that water because we don't control that aquifer, right? So you have an encroachment on the aquifer causing water degradation to drastically drop.
You have a convergence of environmental impacts and you have a convergence of a demand that we're self-imposing. So the reason or the conversation here when we target that is we can target the controllers. We can target the development of ourselves, right? That's
the moratorum. We can target increasing demand. We can build in models which we have to address long-term drought conditions and build that in. That's when you see that pumping rate capacity change. What we can't control is outside
entities affecting us. But what we can do and what we've discussed in our master plan is look better at predicting those factors that UCMR factor as part of our federal government impacts. We can take wider steps to protect our water resources. Unfortunately,
Maynard's water resources have already been built upon, right? So, we just have to take more proactive approaches of looking at zoning changes and things that are in front of the special town meeting actually in in a week about battery storage within water protection areas. We just have to take a more
proactive role in protecting the resources we have while also building out those resources to advance to today's needs. >> Thank you. All right, that does it. Thank you all very much for your time
and efforts. I'm sure we'll be having more discussions, >> of course. >> And uh we'll move forward. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right.
Uh we now have com conversation on the preparation for uh special town meeting. Um Monday, just so you are aware, I participated um along with Stephanie um
in the prep meeting for special town meeting where the moderator went through as we know that he does uh and has all his line items and check offs and whatever and uh we got through that. Um so we're good to go. I think everything
seemed to be ready to go for town meeting. So we're good with that. Um, >> Jeff, I want you to be aware we did not pick on you. >> Oh, that's okay. >> Greg came in and said, "Here's how I draft drafted it up. What do you think?" Here we are. And everyone said, "Yep,
we're good." And uh uh and at that point, there was no indication that there were going to be any impact relative to how we address this water issue. I still think we have some questions about how we're going to be able to sort of incorporate that um
yeah >> into the presentation if we're able to at all. We thought that it might be a good opportunity to make some points >> to the residents that were there that hey, not only do we have this money coming in, but here's how it's going to benefit us.
>> But it's not clear the moderator would allow that because it's outside the scope of the article, >> is it? So >> that would be the needle we have to thread. The needle we have to thread. >> Yeah. >> See if we can get something in. Um and
maybe we won't. >> Yeah. >> But do you have anything to say about >> No, Mr. Chair, you nailed it. I mean only to add that um I've been in discussions with Justin over the last week or so about the particular topic or
the points you made. how to make a a a clear link between what the article is, which is the transfer of money from this revenue account from PAS case towards usable towards our infrastructure needs. And I it sounds simple enough, but at
the moment, I could see how that could sound trickier than it really is. But the question will come up and this is what the board has asked. How are we going to spend that money? We're going to spend it towards this I mean this presentation. >> Yeah. Um, and obviously I'm overly
generalizing significantly very complex situation where this and even it's a lot of money $700,000 but that is going to be just tiny amount towards this bigger picture. I anticipate, maybe I'm wrong, but I anticipate at town meeting, excuse
me, that we will get somebody stands up and says, "My water, you know, the topic comes up, it's water, >> right? >> And we're putting money towards PAS, whatever, >> and somebody's going to say, my water's brown. What are you going to do for me?" >> Yeah. >> Is this gonna, and I'm sure we're also
going to hear, is this going to expand the possibility for people to put in um uh inhouse? >> Oh, maybe. uh you know, >> but I think like if we don't need to get into the weeds of what we just heard. You can strip all
that away. The answer to that question if somebody does ask that is no. This does not really have anything to do with that. >> That's that program exists on its own. If you need more information, follow up the and I think I mean really the
explanation of this is we were awarded some money as a settlement logistically in order to use the money. We have to move it from one place to the next. >> Yeah. >> And we're done. And if somebody says, well, what are you using the money for?
We're using the money for what we are legally mandated to use it for, which is PAS mitigation. >> Yeah. Like I think we don't have to get into um too much of what we've heard. I think sometimes it's hard to strip away what the necessary information is when
you have so much of the information. >> So I' I'd argue for a highly reductive version >> of an explanation. >> Oh, not not to try and like trick people or anything, just because I think I don't we wouldn't want to complicate the issue. Yeah. >> With like all of the water issues. maybe
cl I'll clarify how my um interpretation of the board's guidance was which I appreciate this further discussion but what I told was slide or two at most as a teaser and a draw to get them online like to we could even this is recorded
they could watch this if they really wanted to and so they could so that is the idea of slider two I don't remember if I put a couple I using using some of the materials you've already seen I tried to distract I I tried extract button could into some bolds already. I don't remember if I uploaded it,
>> but this the slider too was not in was it? >> No, probably not because I didn't want to put it as something that adjustable just I I want to make sure he endorsed like I didn't want to be accurate. So, but >> Scott Jarco memo STM talking points. >> Yeah, that's probably not like I I had
that I already using the template of the meeting slides but either way um I'll work with about that again. Okay. So, does that really do you think that would do it without going overboard? >> I think >> a slide or two. >> Yes. Although,
do we want to, you know, I was I was one who thought the grim. This was a great opportunity to talk about water issues in >> because people need to hear something. >> But to the point that was just made, perhaps it's perhaps it's not. Perhaps
it's just very simple. This is money that's going over. What's the money going to be used for? >> But it's required. Go ahead. >> Are we limited to PAS treatment with this money or is it any water improvement initiative? >> I think it's any water improvement. >> So that opens things.
>> So but that is tied to the power system because we have a convergent system. So yeah, >> PAS mitigation basically is anywhere in the system because it's all mixed together. So I think think that's what I was hearing at the beginning of Justin's presentation. Um, so a lot of the
improvement work I think can be classified as >> P. True. True. Um, but I'm saying once it's there in the water improvement fund, it opens it up to pretty much everything we just talked about both the PAS and just the raw capacity and the fact that capacity helps coloration. So
it opens up more David says to go towards improving the situation we're currently in. >> I I said something to that both. I said in in a draft again like I don't you haven't seen it but in a draft I provided to just support I tried to do I tried to make this link I said I said
one of the areas of investment will be PAS treatment along with boom boom boom and I added a couple others I wanted to make sure like it's like don't be this is just there's a lot we have to do here pas is one of those examples but the it's just the title of the article is going to be a little misleading if
people think it's just >> yeah and I guess I'm I'm looking to be ahead of the wave where it's not a group of people standing up and I might be totally off base may not ever happen >> but they hear water they hear whatever
$700,000 or whatever the number is going into this account >> and I want my brown water fixed and >> but we so we I think rather than just saying well we don't this is going to go into a big huge bucket we're going to
work on and we have a plan. Look at the plan. Go to this thing. There needs to be some more focus. That's sort of how I rather than, you know, >> and what's the answer right there? >> What's the focus answer? >> I need to work on that. >> Yes.
>> Yeah. That's what we are the capacity portion of what Justin said in a sentence or so that that to really solve this problem we need to bring on extra capacity and that involves not only design but permitting and and also an increase in treatment plan altogether. Um so it is a big project.
>> Yeah. Sounds like you're the perfect person to be discussing. >> Thank you. I appreciate that question. So >> well you're confident about what I'll be saying on the podium when the question comes. again like we're you're you are already without being water engineers
you're already well more versed in a lot of the topics that any of the owners going to know about what they should so again we're just trying to get them to have some confidence of the people on stage get them online if they want that further information >> yes but there is an expectation u from
many people and I've heard it >> okay >> that this problem should have should be fixed let's just get it done That's that's the, >> you know, don't keep kicking the can. I hear that a lot, too. Okay. You want $10 million or $100 million thrown at you
for >> those are very different numbers. >> Huh? >> No, those are very different numbers. >> Six 60 million to 100 million is the number that Justin kept kept using. >> Uh, you want this done immediately. 60 to million to hundred million dollars. You don't have any federal or state aid.
So, get ready main residents and rateayers. don't recommend answering that way. >> No, I know that's >> Well, but that's I mean I think you're not wrong, but I don't know that we have to um accommodate every every question
like that in the context of special town meeting. There are things that people are going to we have no control over what people say and I'm sure you're right. People are going to you know there might be people who get up and say I want my groundwater fixed. So the answer to that is like well this is part of the process to get there and there is
a much bigger plan um that's longer term and you know if you want more information here's where you go to get it um without getting into the specifics because I think even though we have a captive audience at special town meeting this doesn't what we just heard even a
highly reduced version of that doesn't fit into it very well. >> That's that's that's the problem. >> Yeah, this is all good. All right. And I I'll be sure to follow up with Justin the next couple days. My plan is to and this is one of the reasons I love having this uh materials on board docs is to just
show you where we were with the powerful presentations, but I I like to have it done soon. Um I I don't want to go into the weekend without having presentation. So, and I I'm still waiting on the deadline was yesterday and I was out of time so I haven't seen um but I need to
collect um the slides for planning. I don't make those slides. That's that's from a Bill Chrisman. So either way, you can see what's on there. Uh I also may uh not be able to attend myself on Monday nights. Um I informed
David. I shot an email down. I connect with him. I also informed town council. Um if that's the case, I did I did just this evening before the meeting. I generated a alternative as I call it script, which is what the motions form is so that my name is not there. Most of
the articles where I'm the subject matter expert is only because I stand up on stage and I know how to say that this is a parliamentary procedure. This is just we to spend this money we have to move it and that's usually all I do. How council can do that like that's not
that's if if any of those are and then I don't answer for planning board because that's way outside of my so um >> yeah I will don't you worry about it. We'll be fine. >> Yeah, I I could appreciate that very much. Um uh I'm only taking the opportunity now for just Jason. It's
online. So like uh so then they'll be able to hear but that's it. I'm only um although yeah I 100% agree Mr. Chair. I think the this meeting is very procedural. I already talked to the town you heard from yourself as you reported like everything will be fine. Town meeting will go. It's just as we always
talk about >> worry about issues. >> Best of luck. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think there's anything too budgetarily complicated. So that's >> No, thank what there's not. And this is the almost like a good we're trying to use money like
we're asking the people just to >> transfer the money so we can spend it. >> Yep. >> Um the and then the it's the um good planning articles publications I think in this this meeting. >> All right. So if if they have any questions about any of the article and Mike too if you
have questions about the presentations or the scripts I write them but you can say whatever you want when when you get you know it's yours it's your articles. >> So um are we putting are we looking to put together one to two on article 7 to two slides for the water issue.
>> Yes. Oh actually unless you guys tell me otherwise I >> I think there's wisdom in it. I'm I'm aligned. >> Yeah. I mean you're you're >> Yeah. what I would have >> I think one to two slides would make sense but really I don't know this would
be I would focus on what the article is about >> which is we received a settlement we need to improve our water system this is moving money from one place to the next so that we can use the money to improve the water system >> that would be my vote not trying to reduce any of the like
>> what the improvements are include pest and improvements capacity Well, I guess you can include that. PAS mitigation and increasing capacity.
Yeah, I think you could put that. I think it's not exclusively PAS mitigation for your point. And I wonder if we would start if if that would like elicit questions about capacity that are not
really related to moving money from one side to another. >> I can I can pat that down. >> If you feel like you could just breeze through like >> Well, yeah, because I can always go back to the Yeah, that's part of the plan and passing this article speeds us up and not passing it slows it down. >> We need more water. This is the thing that
>> this will put $700,000 towards that. If we don't do it, then that money just sits in the bone as unused. What happens and the moderator won't let you answer questions outside of the the scope of our >> Yeah. All right. >> I just I just believe that the focus
won't be on PAS per se from people in the audience and generally it's brown water >> because that's TTHM that >> Yeah. that memo. >> Okay. Um, wireless two one to two slice and G was gonna put those together.
>> Yeah, I mean I already did it. I took this one in just I didn't want I'll as soon as it's I'll >> send it to me because I'm well I had to present on them so I want to see >> I think that the answer I'm just thinking through the kinds of things that people might get up to be like what are you going to do about the you know
the TTHM levels that are over regulatory standards. The answer is we need more water. That's what this is working for. Well, that one does have some of the pre-treatment that Justin talked about. So, that's got more immediate solutions that we can that we can speak to. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well,
it's I defer to you on what you want to get into a podium, but >> so has a little more >> Okay. >> deep with my questions with Justin tonight than I >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Uh FY27 budget prep.
>> Yep. Correct, >> Mr. Chair. So, um still budget season is weighing upon me, I think others as well. Um uh the departments will be spending their operational budgets shortly. Um I'll get to sort of a policy action for
the board to consider tonight, but before I do, I'll just take this time. So, um, assistant town administrator Stephanie Doug and I met with our Maya, that's our our health insurance provider and, um, they gave a lot of the sour they usually give, except this time, I
believe they're probably not they're probably not joking. So, um, they told us to expect a minimum of a 12% increase in health insurance premiums for all can't remember how many communities are involved, but it's a lot. And so um that
just as a just to to sort of like form the board, but you've probably heard me say this before, you know, my in about the end of January, usually at the MMA um annual conference, they'll say here's the range. They'll say the minimums, the maximums, and then here's the average.
And generally Mayor is is slightly below the average. Okay, now we did just so that would mean maybe we have a 12% increase. Maybe it's 13 14 now. And that's even in that's especially frustrating because we
did just uh work with the unions to do a plans on a change for this fiscal year. Um so it's that's a particular challenge. I haven't worked out the math what that's going to look like. U it's not insignificant and it's and so we'll
I'll get more into it. I just want to I let you know I like to keep the board involved as well as the budget subcommittee which is expected next week. So um I'll try some numbers between now and then otherwise for the uh policy statement this is one I just want to add about that.
>> Okay. So for the policy statement um the board had some feedback last week or two weeks ago um and so I made a slight tweak to some of the language if you can read it. >> I think that's I think I like the language as it's written. Okay.
>> Currently on the November 4th memo that is. >> Yeah. So you right. So you have one more meeting to approve a policy statement. >> Yeah. And I am fine with the language that's in this November 4th dated memo. >> Okay.
>> I don't know if the others feel and if you want to put it off until our next meeting or if you >> Well, if you approve it tonight, it's still >> Yeah. Or if we feel comfortable approving it tonight. >> Yeah. I think everybody gladly or two weeks ago was cons was comfortable with the
language. >> Uh I expressed my concern about the language specifically saying that we had a budget deficit and >> uh that's been fixed. >> Yeah. >> Mike, any thoughts on the memo as it
appears before us tonight? >> Just unmuting. Uh no, that uh works for me at the moment. Jeff, I don't know if you had chance to. >> It's what he's saying. >> I'm reading it right now, but I have no issues. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, then let's move forward with a
vote. >> Um, >> you're going to have to write you're going to have to come up with a motion, but >> No, that's okay. Um, nobody wants to make a motion. I will make a motion to adopt the policy statement uh as presented currently dated November
4th, 2025. uh to be issued by the town administrator to all departments, appropriate boards, commissions, and committees from the select board. >> Second. >> Motion's made and seconded. Any further
questions, Mike? >> Nope. >> Yes. >> Oh, wait. >> So, please just clarify. You asked if I had any further questions. I didn't. However, I will vote yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I vote yes. I vote yes.
>> And I vote yes as well. >> All right. Thank you. >> Do the roll call. >> You got all that correct? >> Thank you for clarifying, Mike. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Yeah. All right. Capital planning. >> Um uh so I think we're going to um
>> Yes. >> put this until next meeting. >> Briefly make a comment. I heard from uh our colleague Chris Dilva who had a few questions that he wanted to ask relative to the way that he was reading some of
what is in this charge and uh uh I thought that it would be best I clarify with Greg we were under no time limitations so I thought it would be best to move it to the next meeting so that Chris can be here to make points uh
because I think they were legit. Um, and I didn't want to speak on his behalf and we'll go from there. >> Got it. >> Okay. >> I think I think I understand. >> Yeah. >> All right. Correspondences. We have two of them. Uh, any questions on the
correspondences? If not, I'll take a motion. >> Move to accept correspondences A and B as shown. >> Uh, second. I'll just want to thank and acknowledge the um work by Mary and Shields as the COA chair while I second
that motion. >> Yeah, I was kind of sad to see here a lot of great work. >> She had really >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
>> Uh Mike, any comments? >> Uh just echoing um appreciation for the work that Maryanne has done. Um and wish you all the best in her next adventures. >> All right. Um any further comments? All
right. We'll take a vote. >> Mike, >> yes. >> Lindsay, >> yes. >> Jeff, >> yes. >> I am a yes as well. >> Minister, >> going back to capital planning, we've got a quad board on the 12th. >> Yeah. November. Okay. Very good.
>> Okay. I'm finalizing the location. >> I think we'll get to this. We'll get to this before then, right? Is that what you're worried about? >> No, I I was nothing changed. Um, >> we don't know.
>> Yes. So, I'm getting my feet under me. This what's that? Do we have a budget subcommittee meeting planned >> next week? >> We do. Okay. >> Wednesday. >> Thank you. >> I'll follow up with you shortly with that. >> Yeah. >> So, yes, we have a meeting on November 4th. So, we are meeting before the quadboard meeting.
>> Yep. And that that'll be we talked about this. It'll be the same. You'll hear from Benzowski. You might hear from finance committee. It'll be good. >> Yeah. All right. Town administrator report. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will be brief.
Um I was thrilled and proud of Assistant Town for being on the panel of a uh mutable managers association boot camp. Um uh I've already been so I didn't have to
go again. Um but I was I would have I would have been thrilled to hear from Stephanie and the other panelists. >> Glad you were not there. >> Oh, you weren't there. Join the military thing. >> No, Ied uh many many years ago. It's a wonderful opportunity um for the for um people who
are interested in um crazy enough to uh try to take this seat in in various towns or this is town administrator seat um or those people who have found themselves in these seats and they they need a little more uh you know collegial support. So what they do is they go to these sort of meetings and Stephanie was
asked and um and accepted to speak at a panel. Y >> this is based on education and moving how it plans into moving up this world. >> There you go out there from my all sorts of things that I've taken advantage of. Thank goodness
Jeff's community that I love in so good work. >> Good work. >> And then um uh last week we hosted an all staff meeting. Um unfortunately he was downstairs. I wanted to be outside but that's something for you. And so, um, it was great. Stephanie did a
fantastic job as well as a number of staff members that helped us, you know, be able to see the pictures and kind of district reports and and it was a good, uh, transition because at that meeting we had a couple new new faces. So, we had Bryce Carton. Um, he is a tall
gentleman who's downstairs, uh, in the DW. He's the business manager now. Um, and so that's exciting. He started this week. >> Yes. And then um we're also grateful to have Casey Melon. So Casey may recognize
because he was our giving us support for health agent services um through a consortium that we bought and now he's off. So we've hired Casey and he's also downstairs. >> Yes. >> So is the photograph we see of that
event downstairs essentially all of the assuming fire department couldn't be here because they have to answer calls and the police >> they have some people coming in. >> So essentially that's everybody that's on duty at any given time. >> No.
>> So that's mostly town staff in the town hall. >> Okay. because I or someone will go around and yell people to go downstairs and get the food. >> So, public works comes through. You can I can see a couple of guys. >> Yeah, I see some a couple guys, too. >> Yeah. And I can see a couple
firefighters and a couple police officers. >> Yeah, I see the police officers >> and then library, but only a handful of library folks show up. Um um Yeah. So, it's kind of it kind of rotates. I mean it's that's that's why it's I I appreciate the SLboards um support that I spent time for a couple
hours just so make sure people don't have a reason not to um so yeah they come through they get a little pie I make a little speech makes a speech >> we had a staff we had in town like
we had about 65 people there total totaling oh Well, that's just you on duty though. So I would say it's closer to >> Yeah. not included in the schools. That's not in schools more than twice library. So
>> okay. >> Right. There's about let's for example there's about 20 firefighters. I I think the on duty staff showed up and now it's four. >> Yeah. But they only have five on duty at one given time of town. >> So like yeah it was good. Like I I
appreciate >> people come and yes it's a mandatory fun but we we try we try to make it and I too a little I take the opportunity to kind of talk about what's going on in the town showing up like what does that mean? >> So yeah uh so thank you so much for all
your work and then and Stephanie was so good as you also uh there's a little bit of community contribution. We don't do that every time but I appreciate what Stephanie and and everyone's able to help make that happen. So town staff was kind enough um to provide some bags to
open table for the children. >> Yeah, >> they donated a lot of stuff. So >> and it's very good. And then there was a fundraiser in support of the sister of police sergeant manuso. That's wonderful. So very much like a tight
network, tight team here. Um that's all is just uh in this side but but I I look forward to um Veterans Day is coming up. Um so busy season for everyone here. So that's any questions? That's what I have for
>> Thank you. Any questions? Hi K. >> Nope. >> Any questions? >> None for me. Thank you. >> Okay. Excellent chair report. Um, not much. Um, over the
last week, there were some community activities. I want to congratulate the, uh, historical commission for their event over in front of the fire station on Saturday morning where we, um, they dedicated the, um, Amry Grove.
>> Um, it was small little ceremony. At the same time, uh, my department was having their open house, which from what I could see, even early in the morning, uh, was already getting a crowd and >> Oh, good. >> from what it seems, they got a pretty good crowd. >> Oh,
>> throughout the day, they were given rides in the, uh, firetruck. And so the people, little kids, I mean, so excited. They'd hop into the truck and they'd bring it out into the parking lot of um
back at Clock Tower Place and they'd run the siren and the horn and then they'd pull out into the road. These kids were excited. The ones who were in the truck with their parents. I had no idea was happening. >> Just as excited.
>> I I didn't think I could climb in so I could come back here. But yeah, so it seemed good. The they had the open house. Um I went inside. Boy, it's nice to see that how wellmaintained. Um even after a year and a half, two years um
the building just been kept in great shape. >> That's true. There was a little bit of garbage, but I think >> Yeah. I mean, a little a couple of dings in the on the garage floor, if you want to call it that, but I mean, they have trucks in and out of there every day and place. >> Of course, they had it cleaned up, but
it really looks good >> and they should be proud of that. >> So, yeah, there are a few other community events over the last few weeks that um that have I can't highlight them all, but um so much going on. Hey, Greg.
Question for you. Um, and I'm not putting you on the spot. Um, but would you ever consider doing um, just a thought? Grub with Greg. >> Say that again. >> Grub with Greg. >> Okay.
>> I'm I'm basing this on what I see does. >> I I know what he does. >> Town administrator or town manager goes to a lunchon with seniors >> uh, >> on a monthly basis. probably John. >> Yes. So I said probably correct
>> where he sits and he basically gives them a heads up as to what's going on in town and it's well attempted. >> I'm sure it is actually I've thought about in the past. >> I can I I have thought of I think it's a good idea >> and you work with the COA and tell them what's going on. You don't know what
you're going to get yourself into because people will come all sorts of questions but they televised theirs which is how I know about it. He films it and it goes on TV. >> Interesting. >> Uh >> I can I can think about I think that would also help contribute even to the
select board school side. I think which is a you know there's a consistency of communication. It's not a bad idea. I can bring it up to Amy. I like the idea of any and every opportunity to get the message out. I don't want anyone to feel like oh I never hear about this. It's outreach and it's an opportunity to to
get you out there to get town out there >> and on occasion one of us could join and come and say hello. >> Yeah. And say and lobby for a partner for Greg. >> Who is that up there? So I'd also argue for why would we limit that just to the
senior population? >> Well, that's just the only reason I brought up the senior population is because that's what ACT does and that's how we saw it. So that's how I presented it. I mean there was coffee with a cop. We have firefighter things
with Johnson. You don't even change. >> There you go. >> Better than grub. But yeah, just saying we're choosing words branding strategy. >> Let me think about it. I mean like obviously the the um they don't call it a center, they call it a but it's it's
it's like on the border of their um >> they have a big space. So like it's just there's convenience to it. Um and they have multiple departments that in that space. So I can think about just logistics sometimes might be tricky but I and maybe it wouldn't be >> again I didn't want to put you on the spot. I'm just thinking
>> no I'm telling you I have thought about this because I you know like we we pay attention to what everyone else says and then um and uh I'm sure even what he's done has probably evolved over the years. So I'll think about it. >> Yeah. He's he has two microphones in his hand and he talks about what's going on
in town and you know exciting stuff. He talks about what happened at the most recent select board meeting and you know hey here's some exciting things that we're going to be doing. Um that type of just informational answering questions from people and uh
>> Okay, I get it. I know I'm on I just have to I know it's >> Hey, you're not putting me on. >> No. And I wouldn't I feel relatively confident that even if um yeah the seniors usually do or anyone
like town meeting like they're just asking because they want to know questions even if even and or they want to have the voice heard so like a lot of the calls we got are just people who just want to tell us what they think about the town and so that's fine and then I just that's the lead calls. >> Yeah.
>> The active the active one is not a complaint session at all. people just seem to listen and ask questions. No, it's not. I mean, >> at least it doesn't come across in TV as being, >> you know, you know, my, you know, I I
didn't get >> some sometimes when you establish those, the first one, people get things off their chest and then by the time you do a regular basis, you get more kind of routine. >> I didn't I didn't get my warranty in the mail, you know, that type of thing. >> No, I appreciate that. Anyway, so let me
think about it. I think I think I think anytime I can give access to town hall, it always usually has a return on that investment. >> Yeah. All right, that's it for me. Mike, what do you got? >> Um, nothing to add. I think uh I have a
personal interest in keeping this as short as possible, but uh I'm looking forwards to returning. Um there's a lot of excitement in Mayan and uh I'm I'm missing it. So looking forward to getting back. We look forward to having you.
>> Thank you. >> Um, a couple hours ago I went on a tour of the >> Oh, what are we calling the new Civico building? Old Coolage. The >> Calook to get there.
>> It was the identification. >> I think it is. >> I don't know. You all know what I'm talking about. Um we had a tour at a tour there with Senator Aldridge and Bill Nemser and Steve Silverstein and then we went to 115 Main Street where Attorney General
um Campbell joined us and then to Art Space and then I think Senator Eldridge and Attorney General Campbell went to Sanctuary for his fundraiser. Um but the building looks awesome. the cowage.
Um, it looks beautiful. Uh, and the the units all look really fantastic. I mean, I when my children leave my house and I can sell it, I want to go live there. I mean, it's really outstanding. >> The windows are huge. The ceilings are really high.
>> And I guess because it is an historic building, there was something about like they have to maintain the original volume of the space. So they have to leave in even when they've put like sophets to cover new mechanical and conduits and everything, they still have to leave portions of the original high ceiling all around the edges of each
room. So it's really cool. And the a lot of the um architecture inside is maintained. So when you come out on the second floor, you're in this big beautiful old building like hallway that they're going to maintain. >> Um so it looks really beautiful and it
sounds like they've been a fantastic partner and they're very grateful. um to the town >> uh and to Bill and to Steve for the partners that they have been. So I think he said they're looking at around November 15th to open. Um but looks
awesome. That >> Were you ever in the old building? >> No. >> No. >> No. Did go down that terrifying slide once though. >> Glad that's gone. >> That's gone. But I I I was in the building. I'm I'd really be interested in seeing how it looks. >> Yeah. You've been in the building. You
It It was so cool. Really? It's >> beautiful. >> So, I've been in it many times >> and when the heat when the heat came on, you knew the heat came on. >> Bangs like hell.
>> Looks great. Um then we went to 115 Main Street, which also looks great. Jimmy and Jackie McDonald um gave the senator and the attorney general a tour of the building. We went into one of the units um that is still empty. Um that looks great. We saw we like stepped out,
looked at the prominac construction. It's not really couldn't really move around much. Um and they had a good long conversation with the attorney general um that I think was helpful for them. Um so that was good. Then we left there and went to Artspace and um went into
several different artist studios. Um the attorney general took a photo with one of Denise Sha's fascinator hats on. >> I love it. >> Um Bill Ner took a bunch of photos. So it was really good. It was a fantastic visit. Um and it was nice to have her in
mainland. She kept commenting on how great the community was and the downtown. So that was really nice. Um additionally, I went to the No Kings protest last weekend and it was great. Beautiful day, peaceful, lovely. Couple
police officers there looking down on detail. They just came by to check in on things. Um, >> I heard estimates between, you know, from 600 people to 800 people. I don't know exactly how many, but it was a significant number. And we were on the Rachel Matau show. >> That's cool.
>> Um, >> oh, really? >> We were like one of the towns. They flashed up on the screen. I didn't see it, but I heard about it. Uh, and then lastly, the um fundraiser for the holiday parade was last weekend. Jen Hipper Ali and her and her team of
volunteers put in tons and tons and tons of support. Uh, we have that fundraiser to raise money to execute the parade. Um, it was a great event as it always is. It was really fun party, but I would just urge anybody um if you are able. Jen I think does not message heavily on
the fundraising because it's hard to do. But um you know I think like we have over 4,000 households in Mannard if just like half of them gave up $5 that would cover most of the cost of the parade. So you go to the parade you can reach out to her to find out how money towards
>> Okay. I looked it up. It's the Calvin. I think I short. That was probably me. Just Yeah. If I live there, I'd call. No, no. I'm still getting caught up from for returning. So, good to be back. >> Welcome back. >> Welcome back. >> All right. Motion to return.
>> Second. Uh >> Mike, >> yes. >> Lindsay, >> yes. >> Jeff, >> yes. I am a yes as well. Thank you. And we will see you at town meeting. Very good.