for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Uh we have public comments next on the agenda. The board would like to hear public comments. If there is any further action required by the board, we can add
it as appropriate to a forthcoming agenda. Depending on the comment, the board may were able within the confines of open meeting law respond with information as opposed to needing to deliberate on the matter. There are no public members here. There
there are members of our town staff, but is there any uh public comment online this evening? Raise your hand if there is. I don't see anybody jumping to it. So, we will move forward. Um we we should offer public
comments for those show up at seven. We're very regular about that. So if there's anybody shows up after wants to offer public comment that will fall out. >> Yes, absolutely. Um consent agenda is a one-day alcohol license application for
each tomb. Um I'll entertain a motion. >> I'll move to approve consent agenda item A as presented and authorized use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. Any further comments, questions? All in favor? Motion passes unanimously.
>> Okay. So, we'll move that. >> Yeah, maybe here. Um, but maybe we'll go to the next. >> Yeah, we'll go to the next one. Y. >> Um, next is the U CFP 2025 CFP grant grant amendment. Don Grove. Greg, you
want to take that? >> So, Mr. This may be an annual Oh, it is is it says in our notes this an annual um procedure. So, uh for the board's reminding and the public whoever that may be awareness, uh the mayor and
housing authority is a bit of a misnomer. So um although although the um there is some cross play when it comes to appointments and the mayor and housing authority and elections but the
mayor and housing authority is mostly function of the state and and the state get a lot of their funding from the federal authorities. So this is sort of a procedural act as before the board to approve the acceptance of 109,225
on behalf of the housing authority um and um and then it will go towards their capital. So Matt Freeze Freeze apologize Matt you're getting on there. Um from the mayor house authority reached out to uh myself and Greg Wilson
to get this on if you if you talk. Um but uh I highly recommend the board do this so that we can kind of support the housing authorities and the capital. Matt, >> I see you were online. >> If not that's okay.
I don't hear anything. So we I will assume there is not. All right. Having heard that explanation, any questions or comments? Otherwise, we'll take a motion. >> I I just have one question, which is to get a sense of whether or not this
amount that's being proposed is in any way sufficient to cover what's needed. and and I'll follow and if not are we facing uh budget issues down the road in
>> Matt, are you there? >> Yes, I'm here. >> Did you hear the question that was asked? >> Um yes. Is is the money sufficient to meet uh capital needs? No. Um we triage as
best we can. If we need more, we can save some from one year and use it the next year. Say if we're replacing a roof. Um otherwise, we have to go out and ask the Fed for grant money.
>> And is is that likely to be forthcoming? I guess what I'm really working at is what kind of uh issues are we likely to face over the next five or 10 years with with these properties if if this uh you know regular maintenance money is not
sufficient. >> It's generally the roofs. Um currently the units are up to snuff. Um roofs it is a 40-year-old development at this point. Um,
it's the roofs that we're looking at. Whether or not we get the money from the feds is up in the air. >> We just have to wait and see. All right. >> Yes, it's a wait and see kind of thing. >> Okay. Thank you. Any further questions?
Hearing none. Is there is there a motion? Move to approve the amendment to the federal department of housing and urban development hope office of public and Indian housing 2025 capital fund program annual contributions contract for Dawn
Grove 1 to32 Dawn Road in the amount of $19,225 as presented authorizing use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. >> Any further questions or comments? Hearing none. All in favor?
Right. We'll go back now to uh our appointment under uh item five pickerelli. Uh Viper, come on up. Join us. >> Just sit here or stand there. Wherever
you want to go. Very relaxed atmosphere around you. Um, so you are interested in joining the ADA commission and so tell us a little bit about your interest and why you decided to uh put your name in. >> I was diagnosed with um technically an
invisible illness um in 2016. Um I have rheumatoid arthritis which affects the majority of my joints. So I have trouble walking. I have trouble moving a lot sometimes. I didn't realize that we had an ADA and then I met Denise Shay and she told me you might be
interested in this. So I went to a meeting and I felt really at home because I saw all these other people that had these different disabilities and I felt like I wasn't really alone because I didn't really know anybody with invisible illnesses and not all of
them are invisible. But I really feel like I can bring a lot to the committee as I'm a younger person and I have I can reach out to the younger disability community of Maynard but other people can't.
>> Greg, thank you for stepping up and any questions from members of the board? >> No, just welcome. Always a pleasure to see former students come through and and assuming their adult responsibilities and very very happy to see you follow in
my footsteps, I guess. >> No, it's great that you'll do that. >> All right. Is there a motion? >> I will move to appoint Piper Pickerelli to the ADA Commission with a term expiring June 30th, 2028. Authorizing use of digital signatures if approved.
>> Sir, any further comments or questions? All in favor? >> Congratulations. Pointed by the town clerk. >> Thank you. >> Thank you and good luck. >> Right. We'll move on to number seven
um which is CTA construction managers green metal building project. >> Mr. Chair, we're joined this evening by There he is. Chris Chris. He's with Vernon Group. >> Welcome Chris. >> Thank you. >> Good to be on
>> with the design for the Green Medical School. He's been instrumental in getting us the progress and sort of accomplishing the vision so far. So, thanks so much for your attendance for us. So, this evening will be probably um and this is the second this will be probably a long line especially at this
scale of a project of change orders for the board to consider. Um now, uh before the board even sees this, these the sort of business change orders, they're reviewed u by the Green Middle School building subcommittee on finance and then it goes to green school building
committee and then lastly to the owners to do the sub. Um this is for $412,000. Yes, that is a lot of um but it is still well within our contingency uh budget model and um and the details are
contained with And then Chris, if you want to kind of give a quick quick quick quick overview of what of the of the different four PCOS that are, you know, part of this change. >> Sure. Thank you, Greg. Um, so as you all know, the new Green Meadow Elementary
School uh is going to have be an all electric building. Uh, it does have geothermal wells for energy efficiency. There will be some solar uh panels on the roof and we have also a parking
canopy to house additional panels to get the school either to or as close to as possible a net zero building um as requested by the building committee and members of the community. So we engaged the town's solar provider select uh they
did the high school and middle school and as part of their team solar mounts was the canopy designer that we utilized to make sure we had a smooth transition. Uh during the bid phase we received preliminary and final design drawings uh
to be included in the bid package. During the agenda phase between the bids were issued or I should say the drawings were issued and the bids were received. Uh we reached out to solar mounts uh to get updated drawings to make sure we had the latest and greatest. Uh they always
uh you know responded that that we did have those. Um once the bids were received, contractors started looking at all the documents, had additional questions regarding uh the construction of the canopy with regards to the canopy itself and the supporting foundations.
Uh we learned through some conversations with solar mounts that they were still in um kind of negotiating with select on the panel design to make sure it's uh we get the most panels, the most kilowatt
hours um you know per the panels to make it as efficient as possible. That resulted in some design changes that were not provided during the design andor bid phases and that resulted in additional work. the contractor CTA um
reviewed those additional changes and what you see before you are three PCOS 04 R3 06R3 and 12 which resulted in the additional foundations and structure required to handle those loads to
maximize the panel layout and weights. Um as you can see there are revisions to those numbers. So the design team has reviewed them numerous times requesting additional information uh vetting them out reducing them to the extent possible
to make sure everything that um the project is being charged by the contractor does in fact meet the itemized requirements. Um so these totals while they seem very high as Greg pointed out u they are well within our contingencies and budgets that we carry
for these projects for these types of things. Um, you know, I don't know if anybody has any questions on that. >> Any questions from the board? >> What specifically are design changes? You were mentioning more structural elements to bear a
heavier load. What's the heavier load that we're bearing with this design change? >> So, Jeff, the additional loads uh result in a couple of things. One um the canopy grew in size to accommodate the number of panels uh to meet the kilowatt
demands that the canopy designer and select who is the solar provider uh were working out through the design process. Uh that those changes and those discussions continued after the design was issued for bid. Uh we did not we did
not know that. Um and then the resultant of those panels increased the load of the columns, the footings, etc. >> So we hadn't worked out the total kilowatt hours at the time of design and we worked that out afterwards and that's leading to the design change. Would I be
correct in that statement? >> Uh you're somewhat correct. We did have a design that, you know, Mount Vernon Group understood to be the final design from Solar Mounts, but apparently there were some continuing discussions uh behind the scenes with Solar Mount select and I believe the district may or
may not been involved with what we were trying to accomplish. So that information that additional information was um basically provided to us after we received the bids and we started going through the submittal process for the canopy components and all the uh you
know the infrastructure that goes with that including additional conduit to make sure we had all the right conduit going to the canopy to the electrical room to the generator the transformer etc. Thank you. >> You're welcome.
>> Any other questions? >> No, we can entertain a motion. >> If I if I could um before you have a motion, there is one other PCO on here as part of the change order. It is 6R3.
That's relative to sanitary sewer revisions. Um this particular PCO during the design process we issue drawings uh to the town for their peer review under the DPW water sewer umbrella. Um it's an
extensive review and pretty comprehensive um based on on what we've been told by um Justin DeMarco and his staff. I know they're a busy group. Um they returned comments again post bid with some design
changes that they wanted to see for the infrastructure materials that they have been working on upgrading within the town uh that we did not have those comments prior to. So this is an R3 revision. The original PCO from the
contractor was approximately $275,000 um off the top of my head. So through review with our engineers, the town's um review engineer, etc., uh we were able to cut out unnecessary work, duplicate
work that the contractor had uh to get down to the nitty-gritty of what was actually required and to be priced. So we were able to get that down to about 168.5, you know, $500,000. So that includes the total cost for the
412 on this particular change order. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Any other questions? Greg, um just a quick question. So, it gets in another issue, but um the articles town meeting
>> that you're proposing that will allow us to move forward. If when this is approved and it's all set up, what happens if that article doesn't make it to town meeting or doesn't pass town meeting? So just for the context um
public awareness there's the two articles that are proposed um for inclusion on the special time agreement one deals with authorizing the sweat board to enter a lease agreement [Music]
relative to the so on the board it's almost word for word what we did for the high school and then similarly there's a partner article um to tax it. So again it author users to tax that same exact same scheme we
did for the high school um same vendor select. So, it's nearly if we weren't to have those articles through this town meeting, the the biggest consequence would be
that we may not be in the same eligibility for certain federal incentives. So, and I'm I'm sort of, you know, I'm saying that as I um channel our longtime consultant, Beth Green, who we answered that question specifically
today. Um and and so that would be the consequence. We we didn't have that authorization and therefore we weren't able to move forward with the lease agreements, the power agreements and then continue work the vendor. So as you tell us already to good faith that that will be the case um
right it could be so >> it could cost us the town money >> potentially. Yeah. I mean I I don't I'm not on this to show the importance of having that article on warrant and to have a pass >> right this is all sort of almost working
simultaneously that's all in a parallel path >> towards the long-term vision of the elementary school which Chris pointed out this is like at the forefront of technology the energy efficiency statements this is the sort of work that the board is expected to to have the
business end of those tests Yeah. So, is there a motion made? Move to approve change order number two with CGA Construction Managers LLC for the Green
Meadow School Building Project general contractor to contract in the amount of $412,68568 as presented authorizing use of digital signal. >> Second. >> Oh, she's made a second. Any further
questions or comments? explanation for my question >> for the one about the articles. >> Yeah. >> No, I just >> you'll be here interested in hearing. >> Okay. Can't wait >> because you weren't here earlier. Uh all right. Next up is the status of the uh
and status of Green Meadow and the committee membership. >> Yep. So, um I I'll see all the good work of the project management team and Chris the rest of uh the design team. So, the project is progressing. Um I was not able to go to yesterday's on-site tour.
Are you able to go? >> Oh, good. How's it look? >> Yeah. >> Uh impressive. Yeah, it's got a ways to go, but >> Okay. >> You know, just the the main floors are in place. Uh some of the internal walls are going up. >> Great.
>> Um yeah, a lot of taking place. >> Uh so, you know, with so there you go. This is a green middle school building. had an on-site um meeting yesterday um just to kind of observe the progress. I I privileged because of my position that I could get into my audience by weeks
ago. Um but I'm glad to hear it's as far as far as the field reports go and otherwise that is the case. It is a massive project complicated because ofation as we well know. Um but I I think it's moving forward. >> Anything else kind of note Chris? Any
any other big takeaways? Uh no, Greg, but uh like to just inform the board, you know, we're out there doing our weekly inspections. Uh the quality and workmanship that the contractor is providing is been very good. We haven't seen any issues uh and don't expect any. So, there is oversight
not only from the design team, but from the owner's project management team who's on site every day. Um we get our regular reports, we submit them to the building department. So, at this point, I think, um you know, as Mike mentioned, it's it's moving along. We're on schedule. We're we're well within our
budget and we will continue to work towards that. >> Mr. the other item was about the membership. >> Yes. >> So um as everyone recalls Charles pass he was a member of the superintendent's
team and he was was a member not but a member of the green metal school building. So with his passing, um Jerry Colbert, the chair of the building committee is endorsing um tennis book uh who you know longtime town official. I
don't think I guess he hasn't been he's not anything right now. So we loop back in. Um so uh he he had been on committee school committees very well in the town. Um so I think it will be a welcome addition to to the team. Um because it
is a town project. you are the owners of that project. Doesn't require the MSBA does require the select board's approval to for this membership. >> You know if you'll be a voting member since he's taking >> he won't be uh I double check on that. So
>> So what's the what does a member who's not a voting member do? >> They they attend the meetings. So they're um they're helpful in perspective. Um I reach I asked Jerry if you wanted to be a voting member. said, "No, maybe that could change in the future."
There's no We do have a lot of voting members. >> It takes a while to get uh get everybody down the list. Does it change requirements? >> Good question. >> I don't think it does because require voting members. >> Ken can make his way short without the
vote. I'm confident and I think he'll be a positive addition to the group. >> Yeah. There you go. >> So, if Miss Jared will That's the boards. >> Okay. So, there's a motion. >> I will move to approve the Green Meadow
School Building Committee membership as presented and authorize the use of digital signatures if approved. >> Any other questions? All in favor? >> We're good to go. >> Thank you, Chris. >> All right. Thank you. Have a good evening.
>> Thank you, Chris. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Now, we're going to move on to uh the first of our we're going to start going back to having some department uh level conversations with the department heads come in and give us their updates on what's going on with
their particular departments. We're starting with public safety departments, fire and police who are both here this evening. Thank you. Please come up and sit here. make them both sit there while we >> Mr. Chair, can I give a little
>> So you're you are absolutely correct. Um from time to time, not every year, but the board has been receptive to department heads giving away like an overview um whether they report to you or through me, whichever. But I think it's it's great to sort of like hear directly from the department heads. This
is a this is an important time now. This you hear in a minute departments are generating and developing their budget proposals which yes does go through me but I I I don't hide anything. I share what their proposals are whether I recommend it or not the board and um and
so every couple years I like to I like to throw them into the lines then for the department that's up here. These two are good first up because you see it from them pretty often. But I'm excited as you see all the parts you may not see very um and they're also good troopers and they take orders very well. So they
understand the time constraints and maintenance and bottom lines. >> And this has nothing to do with which department I like better. But I'm going to ask the fire department to go first. And if I could just top Greg, if you could in the future and
um especially with a board that's been in place for a bit um have individuals presenting these focus on what's new or different for this particular year versus all other years as opposed to what all Massachusetts fire departments and police departments do. I want to know or or even what mayor has done in the past, but what what's different now
about, you know, this year versus other years that we should be thinking about as a community is is what I would like the a bit more weight on for these presentations. >> I think you'll hear from that as well, but you're right. They'll give a general overview. >> Y
>> um I understand the constraint, so it'll go very quickly. Um, nice photo is Greg. >> There we go. Um, I just provided an organizational chart. I knew you got this beforehand. So, you knew the players and where we were. You could
probably see our staffing. We have two firefighters that started yesterday. So, that's exciting. And, um, we are hopefully hiring one more. So, that's our next process. So, there that is. Um, this is just an overview of the
trends of our runs and where we are. We're literally exactly where we should be compared to last year and year before data. As of today, we're one above where we were this time last year. So, no huge spikes or or divots or anything in our
run volume, but that does show the trajectory that it is going up a little bit each year. Good. Um, I just kind of focused on some of the extra above and beyond training that we do at the fire department. So, we have all of our daily stuff where you said focusing on kind of the new things
and what's different. Um, these were all things that people did on their off time or new um programming that we had to give to our firefighters like Nero's law, things like that. Um, which basically gives us the ability to treat police dogs that are hurt from one duty.
Um, so all those things we have to kind of train on and get everybody. >> There's one thing there too that I wanted to talk about in the middle is our training mezzanine which you guys approved a couple years ago. One of the benefits to that is not only to us but to our entire district. So that middle
picture there is using our training mezzanine for our district uh which is 23 communities. um the tech and rescue team came and did a whole day at our station using our facility and they love that resource. So, it's not something
that just benefited us, but it benefited the entire district and of course if we needed the district team having them be able to be trained and maybe that was for us. Yes. >> Uh on sorry I'm going back to slide three on the increased run volume that
we're seeing long-term um prepandemic inclusive. Is that due to um uh an increased senior population or other factors? >> I can see is digital way. Um we do about 350 runs there since annually since it
opened. So even not really even pandemic, but once that started to kick off and and it's not just Camila Gardens, it's the urgent care, it's the apartment buildings, it's just there's a lot of people there. We go to the gyms a lot facility. It's pretty much the trend
about 350 358. So that's a big increase. >> Thank you. Y um community interaction stuff. That's something that I talked about during my interview three years ago and I think we do a stellar job at connecting with the
community in all different ways. Um our AED project is finally finished and they're all installed. So that's great. And we're going to do a big dedication of the town here main for that. So that will be education and the dedication
Um, we just hosted with the police this syrup and siren event more attended than I would have gotten. >> It was big success. >> Offer food and people. >> I mean, and we had entertainment. >> Yeah.
>> Entertainment. >> Yes. The funk tones I think was the name of the band and they were fabulous. Um, obviously we keep going with our collaborations. We do a lot with every organization that approaches us. We
commit to helping them as much as possible forward. Um, which brings us into emergency management which um, it's like board member Stevens. I don't Okay. Um, kind of has some questions and it all falls
into perfectly this meeting. Um, so over the last year and a half we've worked with um, local planning emergency management planning committee as well as our MIMA local organized and tightened up our sub plan which is
our community um emergency management plan which basically gives everybody their rules, what they need to do and a framework for what we're going to do during many different natural or man-made emergencies in town. So that
document has been given to you I believe and it's basically we're looking for your signature to approve that and it's more ceremonial than anything. Um but I want you guys to review it because there is your roles in there. It's been
distributed to every member that's needs to read it. Um and we reviewed it. We're going to test that or drill that um document. So, we did kind of a mini drill, but we're going to do a large scale and
multi community drill um that tests our emergency planning and our um emergency operating. >> You were welcome to have um this evening so that it falls in line in preparation for this upcoming
but and I had it chief was very good. She's she's had it she's had this prepared for a while. So I I included it in a prior time administrative report but I understand that could have been lost in all many many materials sees. Um but if you have any questions you feel free to ask but we were we were looking
to have the board if you need any more time. >> Yes. >> Is that correct? >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Um and then I was asked what was different or where our critical need is. It's kind of a flip question because the same critical need is the same critical
need that we've been saying for the last 12 or more years. So my one ask would be we're still looking for that deputy chief position and it's it's the same reality here. Um
you know we're the only department that doesn't have an assistant or um that administrative staff and it are we making it work? Yes. But it is difficult and um I hope that you consider that and I would be happy to
entertain any questions that you have pertaining. >> Let's keep the questions until after the police go and then we can sort of >> fair together. Yeah. But um relative to the issue with the deputy chief, you know, we are aware of what um it's just
going to be a whole discussion priorities and where it fits, how it fits. uh you know no commitments yet on anything. Greg hasn't come up with any budget but >> completely understand but if I had one critical need that's it so I was asked
to bring that and that's that's >> and I think I speak for everybody when we say we appreciate your patience. I appreciate it. I get >> but that doesn't mean that means no. That just means you know there is there is some time coming before we're we're there but we understand that that is
your critical priority and has been for several years. >> Right. >> Got it. All right. Next chief. Uh you're up. All right. Take a break to get set up here. All
right, you go the next time slide. Right. Thank you. So, our brief overview of the department uh just starting off with our total number of employees just so you have kind of a brief a brief look at that. Total full-time employees is 28 on our side which includes dispatch as
well as um administrative assistant. So um we have 21 full-time police officers. That number 28 also represents dispatch as well as the administrative assistant. And then our part-time employees include our current special police officers, traffic officers and two crossing
guards. That is our part-time employees and of course one God who is the most popular employee of the police department. That's why he gets fish up there and he's the only one because he is by far and the most popular employee we have. I wish I could pay him but I can't. So there's Otis. Next slide.
Great. The next is the organizational card. That just kind of gives a brief overview of of our organizational guard. Um from myself down to the deputy, the lieutenant sergeants. Um pretty standard. The deputy chief directly oversees investigations. We split up
investigations and patrol. So the deputy chief um directly supervises investigations whereas the lieutenant directly supervises patrol. We built those two drops kind of a little span of control a little bit more of a piece and then everything kind of falls in place
under underneath that. So here's our yearly call response. On the left you see the total calls log from 2022 up till 2025. Um the 2025 date as of uh when I put this spot went together week two ago is 25,443
as you see and that projected number for this year is 38,164 total calls logged. I'll explain those in a second. That's pretty much on par again with since 2022. Um so in the police department we we have a ad system our computer a dispatch and the system
we use is IMC our system. So um we log just about everything. So that's where all those logs come from. All those total log entries come from. So anything from a motor vehicle crash, we report the last suspicious activity. Any call we go to pretty much we log. Someone
walks in to report something in the stage in the lobby, we report that. Just about everything we log, but someone calls for directions, we certainly don't log that or some of those minor things, but any anything that uh has potential to be a call or may we want to just document, we do log. As you can see that
this this quant log entries yearly that dispatch handles the top. On the right is our calls for service. Again, pretty standard, pretty consistent since 2022. Projected this year to be a little bit higher than last year, about 200 more than last year. And that just kind of varies, but the ballpark they're usually
pretty pretty much the same. We typically go to all the calls that the fire department will go to and then why our calls might be a little higher because there's there's certainly a number of calls that we respond to that the fire department might not report suspicious person maybe motor vehicle when there's no injuries. So there's a
lot of calls that we don't do but the fire department might potentially not we take a fraud report things like that. So on the right those are calls for service that's something we actually dispatch that we go to um not a proactive call. So if an officer is doing a business check or proactively uh is is checking
on something that's not office service we wouldn't check off calls. Those are actually you know calls us that we're responding to. So that's what those are the two numbers um how they broken down there and then just accreditation. We've been accredited since 2016 take a lot of pride in being accredited and not every
police department in Massachusetts is and that that comes up every three years. So we most recently accredited back in October of 2024. Sam will come up again in October of 2027. So every threeear cycle. So every three years a team of assessors comes into our police
department assess mostly our policies and as you can see it's based on 2774 mandatory policies that are required to have to meet accreditation standards. So we have those in place as well as we have to meet a minimum of 66 of the 120
option standards as well. And what that is, it's just not just having a policy in place. It's it's compliance with the policy. So when the assessment team comes in, they check to make sure that we have a policy in place and they want to make sure that we're following the requirements of whatever policy is. So for example, qualifying
with our firearms twice a year. We have a policy option in place that that says that. And then we have to prove that we've done that over the course of the three year period. So for each year, we provide a roster of who went uh the officers that qualified on which day. We provide a lesson plan. We uh have the
instructor, their certifications. So, there's a whole lot that goes into just each policy. It's not just providing policies. Some we look at. We also prove compliance with each individual uh policy as well. And then some of the partnerships that we we are involved with and have been
and continue to be. Some of them are fairly new. Um, nele masses law enforment council organization of 68 cities and towns in milex and Essex County mayor's been a member of NLE since about 2016. We have several
offices on nele units. Nelech has a various amount of units that are available to our community because we are a member of NLE. So if we need a uh a large scale search or missing or lost child can provide their emergency their region response team come in and assist us. uh
that's on call 24. They have a lot of different units within NLE that are available to us because we're a member. It's it's a tremendous asset and several of our offices are members of NLE units. Suso is a member of the NLE crisis
negotiation unit squad team regional response team and SA Peterson has an application to become a member of the newest unit which is drone unit. So we're looking towards that too. We'll continue our partnership together. TVSN,
domestic violence services network is a uh join of 12 area departments that TVSN covers. We've been a part of them for a long time. Over the past year, they serviced 128 men residents through the reports
that we send. So any domestic violence report we get, potential domestic violence report we get goes to GBSN. Um organization of volunteers are a tremendous asset to us. We do a lot of follow-ups. We sent uh 83 reports this past year to DBSN. They had 128
residents they were able to uh to effectively serve based off those reports. Some of them do come um from other sources, but it's a really really small percentage that 128 residents and 45% of that and children under 18. So they they do a phenomenal job for the
rest of this community. DA's office diversion program with them. That's for the youth. the foot program. We've been involved with that for a while. And then our mental health clinician, Emily Black, which most of you aware of who she is. She's our mental health clinician. She's been a tremendous asset to to us as
well. Um we have some of the stats here. I didn't put them up on the board since 2022, but we usually do about right around 200 new referrals each year through our mental health clinician. So that's uh we deal with uh you know mental health crisis call then we we uh
we report touch base with Emily and she'll follow our family and provide whatever services she can. Um so we had so far this year we had 122 new referrals. Last year we had 204 new referrals and then she she will follow up additionally. So once the
referral hits her job doesn't stop. She continues to stay involved with the family and she counts those contacts as well. So, uh, last year she had 204 referrals. We had 284 follow-ups. So, we had a total of 488 contacts on our level last year. She does a phenomenal job.
And I know Chief Wallace mentioned uh, set up sirens and a whole myriad of other things that we continue to push out. Coffee. We have a whole bunch of other things that we're we're planning on pushing out as well. We continue to do our community outreach. We talk about every month staff meeting. Um, it's extremely important water to connect the
community. Um so that that is that is the forefront of people. It's great and future considerations one damage is something that uh is kind of on the forefront I would like to see uh at some point implemented within the man police department. They're not mandatory in
Massachusetts police department. There's a lot of states Connecticut being one that does mandate body cameras for every police department in the state. Massachusetts is not there yet but they could be at some point. But I think it's something we need to uh we should look at and and for for a whole host accountability
you know evidence collection on the list there's a lot of things that we do there's a lot of value in body canvas training reviewing body cameras training best practices what we did good what we can do better and this collection seems body camera really captures all of that
you know in transparency and accountability I do the right thing 99.9% of the time we're not perfect but we do a really good I'm not afraid to show that. We'll wear a camera all day long because our office has do a phenomenal job. Um, and in the uh, you know, in transparency, I'd be glad to
show that. So, and I think it'd be a good thing. You know, people want to know what we do. We get a lot of records requests. People want to request camera footage. We don't currently have them, but if we did, we'd be more than glad to give those out throughout requests. Um, and then the last thing is just to prove behavior deescalation. Quiet cameras are
proven to deescalate situations. When people know they're on camera, they tend to calm down a little bit. The officers will know too because they know they're on camera and it's proven to deescalate situations which is another uh you know major shift in law enforcement over the past couple years is deescalation. We really push that and train on it body
that's >> to the planning committee. >> I have not yet that I would put that request in as they go into the budgeting cycle. >> Yeah. I think so I was waiting on the grant. So typically the state will put a grant out every year. This year they
haven't put it out yet. So I don't know if the grant's over and they're not funding the grants anymore, but I'm waiting uh to hear and we reach out to the state to see where the grant is. But every year they put out right about this time. They haven't yet. So talking to some of the body camera body one camera vendors. They're not sure if
the grant's going to be available. Wait to see that piece and then capital. What's about the startup costs for a department of ours? >> Uh, so the the the the yearly cost is kind of they break they break it down to a lump sum. They can pay over like five years is kind of how they do a package
like fiveyear plan. And typically on average for for the size of it be somewhere around $20,000 a year. >> $20,000 a year. Five. Okay. Probably in perpetuity. >> Yeah. And that's everything. That's for the cameras, all the equipment training. That's that's everything. Uh customer service includes everything. It's
>> not the biggest number I've heard in this. That's a that's numbers that come out of two vendors. Um, one's slightly less, one was about 18,000, one was about 20,000, but it's in that ballpark. It goes up slightly each year. I'm just trying we have to get policy in place,
which we're working on just in case we have in place ahead of time. Um, and then looking at the vendors and maybe test and evaluate each camera to see what the officers like and prefer, and then kind of go from there. So, there's kind of a lot of back back to stuff that kind of has to go into it, but we're working on it just in case we're ready to roll it out if we have. Uh you
mentioned the public records requests and um in my industry it's huge where we request insurance industry request probably one camera video. So I recognize that there might be a cost associated with uh the employee cost
associated with answering those because then there's the whole the whole issue of maintaining it and the whole computer aspect of it and everything else. We have to keep that in mind. And I don't know if that's incorporated in that number or not, but just I'm a very big advocate of body one counters for any
number of reasons, but um the um the I recognize that there are some hidden costs that you don't necessarily think about and public records request is certainly one of them because you have to have somebody that manages, >> right? Typically with the body cameras, it's kind of out of so you have the camera then you can get all sorts of
different add-ons to the cameras, whatever you want. Uh reduction is one of them. um records redaction is you want to have those prices both include redaction because that's what I ask for to at least include in that have a redaction software capable >> if an officer is speaking to somebody
and they give their phone number when we when we get the record request it >> stops at that you can't hear it or and it blares out the whatever's on the notepad can't see all that stuff >> exactly it'll follow it through without that reduction software you literally
have to go frame by frame So that added cost of the reduction software which is included in that price is invaluable. >> Does data storage represent a significant part of the cost? >> It does. Yeah. So it's stored on the cloud, right? Is where the data storage is.
>> So I mean I'm I'm familiar with with cameras and schools where they would basically, you know, the data would be turned over every 30 days or something presumably. Uh for these it would be longterm storage. >> It is. You can actually set how you want
each call stored because of public records requests and laws. Some have to be an arrest has to be stored for a extremely long period of time, right? Probably to the conclusions of the arrest and then beyond that. Whereas a basic motor vehicle stop doesn't have to be kept as long. So you can actually
pick which call you want and how long you're going to store it on the cloud. So some will go away quicker, some will be retained longer based on the call >> and that would be a local control. So somebody in your staff would have to then take on that role of >> Yeah, it's actually Yeah, you can actually set it. So we can once it's
identified what the call is, the system already knows what the call is and how long to retain that. >> So does do you foresee that um the extra workload of uh using these systems is something you can absorb without uh
impacting your other staffing needs? >> Absolutely. Yep. No problem at all. All right. Uh, that's the end of your presentation. Correct. >> It is. >> All right. Question at the end just where we're at. >> So, before we get to questions from my
colleagues, um, I want to just make a general comment about uh, both the fire department and the police department. In many ways, I think when you guys are certainly aware of this, but you're the face of our community for many people. They don't they don't speak to town hall. They don't speak to the DPW. They
speak to the police and fire department when they have to. And u the feedback that I hear is remarkably positive and it speaks to the leadership of the two of you as well as to the men and women
that you have on your team and have selected to be part of the managed firearm police department. And speaking for me, but I probably speak for all of us. I am so proud of Maine Fire and Police Department and what they do for our community. There was something I saw
the other day and I forget where it was, but I'm sure Chief, you'll be able to pull me in. Uh, but somebody came to Maynard with an issue relative to something that happened. >> That was the police. >> Yeah. >> The Uber driver. Yeah. And they came to
Maynard because they thought the Maynard police department was nicer than than the police department in conquered had to do with like something >> it was someone who found a fraudulent heart they thought from Uber >> and they live in conquered and the ride happened in conquered.
>> Yeah. >> They came to Mayor. >> They came to Mayor to speak to you guys. Now that you know it's a simple thing but I think it speaks volumes as to what people feel about the department >> and sorry if I could just add to that
Jackie who's the executive director of domestic violence service and DFS DVSN um in my email she provided me the stats and ours our stats if you look at them comparatively 12 surrounding towns we're second highest domestic violence calls compared to the 12 and some of those
towns are bigger than ours but to her point she wrote in their email is not it's not indicative of like a domestic violence problem we have in May. Her exact words are the numbers indicate that a seriously underreported crime which domestic violence is is well handled by the mayor police department. The residents trust their police and
thus are more likely to reach out for help. Those are her words. So and I agree with that. I absolutely agree that and those are cases we're trying to make because we want people to report things to us. We want them to feel comfortable to come to us and and it pays dividends in some of that something like that with TVS. >> Yeah. And I see both departments
interacting with the children in town. Um, you know, it's just remarkable how much u community cooperation there is and community involvement there is. You know, whether it's at the lemonade stand and you get the photographs of the police and the firemen stop in. Um it's
just it's I've wanted and I'm very very thankful to both departments for for that initiative and for that uh the way they hold themselves up. But having said that questions from the board on the presentations
>> I have a few um and then completely agree with what David said um and my thanks to to both of you and the positive influence that you have uh in the community and leading your teams as as they go out interact with as well. Um on on the accreditation, do you know about what percentage of Massachusetts
cities or towns are part of that accreditation? >> I think it's about uh 40% that are accredited are in the process of accreditation or self assessment what they call it early stages of accreditation >> and what are the big policy difference
between those who are are accredited and are not accredited. So I think the big difference is not so much the policy itself, it's it's adhering to the policy to a problem that's not accredited doesn't have to adhere to any policy because there's no checks and balances. So the way they maybe transport a prisoner, they can do it however they
want, right? We have a strict policy that has to be adhered to through EMPACT, which is the Mass Police Accreditation Commission. When they come and look at our policy, it has to adhere to certain things that meet their criteria. So we can't just make up our own policy on transporting prisoners.
There has to be a whole litany of things that follow their guidelines. So searching the prisoner, where we place, how we handcuff, how we seen, all those things are really articulated in a policy and adhere to. Without that, you can just kind of do whatever we want. There's no checks and balances. You
know, we're uh you know, we're check every three years on all those things, which is a good thing. So then does it what's the there must be some detriment to not being accredited. What is it? >> Uh you know I think the biggest thing is prestige and pride in the office. Just knowing that you're accredited. It's a
it's a pride thing, right? We are an accredited police department. We've adhered to those 274 mandatory standard. It's easy to say we won't do it and just have policies. They're not policies and nobody really says anything. But it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work for everybody, not just the accreditation manager, but for every Oxville police
department to adhere to those standards. They work tirelessly and absolutely to make sure that they do and then they keep up with those compliance and the standards within each policy that are presented to the assessment team where they come in every three years to show exactly what we do every every time that
we adhere to one of those policies. >> Thank you. You showed a relatively flat call volume over the last four years. Is there any changes in the distribution or the types of call you're getting within those numbers? >> I mean certainly mental health calls over the past probably five four to five years. I think everyone probably agreed
to that. Um but again Emily Black are going up or or I know I know we talked about spikes during the pandemic. Have they come back down or >> No, those continue to rise. Yeah, we definitely see an increase in mental health calls for sure. And and then it's not only in the call itself followup too. So we lo a lot of follow-ups that
touch base in followup again. Um, I will say having Emily on board and having a mental health clinician has touched some of those numbers because we don't have the repeat because those people provided services. Prior to Emily, our mental health clinician who we respond to mental health prior to a call, we do the
best we can and then just leave because we had no resources. Now we're in direct contact with Emily. She's falling off the police reports. She's reaching out on that day or the next day talking with family, getting them in substance youth programs, mental health program, whatever it might be. She's extremely
proactive in that. So that actually will reduce some of the calls mental health related although overall the calls have gone up. Some of the frequent ones aren't as frequent because of the services she'd be able to provide them >> and well the the total calls look to be
you know relatively stable. So if mental health calls are going up what types of calls would be going down? Yeah, you know, I I think because of the the bar scene kind of the most it hasn't been open late, some of those disturbance, late night calls and things like that really haven't affected us as much. The pandemic kind of stopped that and as we
know, they never really came back, right? Um in a lot of places, not just main. So, some of those late night calls disturbances um have have stopped those those calls um but offset by the mental health calls we kind of keep those numbers consistent. >> Thank you. And Emily, does she working
with individual officers? Does she have a single point of contact or she basically depends on which officer is responding to which incident? She works across the entire department. >> Yeah. So what happens is she she'll work on all of them. She'll work in there. We don't just uh pivot to one person. So she'll anybody she has an office in our
station. Um she works exclusively with conquered Kyle and Maynard. Splits her time between those three communities. Um but any officer can interact with talk with her. We we have a system in place to make sure that that reports that are taken at two o'clock in the morning that involve her get sent to her and she gets
those reports of followup. So we have a pretty good system in place to make sure that nothing gets dropped or missed and all of the report that she needs gets her. >> She works very closely with us as well. >> Thank you. Um and then I have a question for Chief Wallace. We've asked this
question before, but on the deputy chief, you got us three bullet points, but what are we not doing right now that we would be doing if we had a deputy chief? Um, so what I would say is what could we be doing better would be more a better answer than what are we not doing? But our fire prevention, um, as I
talked about last year, just trying to get through every residential unit that have more properties than six in one house. We're supposed to inspect those every year. So, um, you know, it took me a few days to go through all the McDonald properties and, you know, now I
have Summer Hill Blend that's scheduled for October and all of those take a lot of time and takes me away from doing other things. So, having somebody to do that would be phenomenal um to tackle all of the chasing of the fire prevention needs that we need to do for
our community. And that same person, I would really like to have consistent training for all four groups. Um, the way we have it now is each captain is kind of in charge. We give them an outline of what should be done, but everyone's going to teach it slightly different based on their own experience
and skill level. So, being able to teach all of our members with the same voice would be amazing. >> I'm smiling. I'm well aware of the challenges of training alignment for my own career on you say we're supposed to inspect. Um is there a an oversight body
in which we need to gain some sort of compliance if we're falling behind on those inspections or is there a point where we're falling behind where the town could face some sort of trouble from the state or >> to be preventative more than punitive?
Right. So, um, I find that once I can connect with the property owner and explain what our lens is and what value it adds to them, we work very well together. Um, it gives them an opportunity to see what's going on in
the unit and us an opportunity to identify any potential hazards to the entire building and eliminate them. So, I think what I'm asking you, you said we're supposed to inspect all, you know, six units or more.
>> It's in our that we do that >> in the town's bylaws. >> Yes. That any multi-residents has to be inspected. Um, so I'm just not able to get to it. And that's also like a state fire prevention rule.
>> That seems like a very specific number. Did that bylaw come from some sort of guideline from the body or anything? Yeah, I think it correlates with how many multi-units we need to have required fire alarm residents or spray flares. So those numbers jag with those requirements.
>> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah, I've got a couple. First of all, just want to echo the comments made about appreciation for for both of you and the departments that you lead for uh the tone that is evidently present.
Um uh and will kind of relate to that. I know that um one of my favorite readings once a month if I've been reading the national news and then I'll find the police blot and that reminds me of just how sane mean it is as a living.
Good. Um I appreciate having a chance to look at the emergency planning um report uh sorry the emergency management management report. U a lot of detail in there of course and I haven't gone
through it in in with a fine tooth comb but it's impressive to see the range of of issues that are being covered. um of particular interest to me is um the the public communication
component of this and I obviously there's there's a number of ways in which communication takes place and hopefully duplicating each other as backups. Um, do you see any need um at this point for any uh like townwide
training or drills or something of that nature to help test the system to make more people aware of what kinds of systems are in place for emergency? And I recognize that there's many different types of agencies.
>> This could be a very long conversation, right? Um so tier one is your black art system hyper reach what I think that we use and that's you know obviously that sends out a lot of those messaging um we did a
campaign through um police fire and dispatch I think it was last fall to try to get other residents to sign up for that. So basically that's a volunteer situation where we know how that works so I don't need to explain. Um I think
where your concerns are are more major media like a tornado a break something like that. If those people aren't signed into that system how do you work? So um good example is the storm that came
through not last weekend but the weekend before. Um, so I was on the phone with our NEMA, which is the Massachusetts emergency management. He called me as the storm was approaching. He then his EOC when his meteorologist was sitting
there and we're communicating at home. So while I was at home, I mean if let's just say something major was heading towards being we needed to alert our public and not only who lives here but
anyone who's in the community. So somebody goes to the movies and they come from far away. They don't have reverse 911 system set up. So Nema has the ability to draw a map that will track every cell phone within that
territory and send what I always think of as like a hammer alert where it goes with that baby and who car that. So, we could use that for even if we had a tanker truck roll over and I needed everybody to shelter in place for um I
wouldn't use it, but we could for like a missing child and you didn't want people to interfere with the cops who are out with the dog and everyone look but that's not really the right thing. You know, you could send a message. You wouldn't use it. You understand? It can
be very specific in a neighborhood type or community or only community. And that's done through. So that's our big gunner, right? That's something that's I, you know, I saw a lot on social media. I was like, oh, they took away
the fire horns and you know, how do we know what's going on? If we rang the fire horns, no one would know what event that all of a sudden that's a different meaning of now there's a tornado and go to your basement, right? That means firefighters come to the station. So you
can't just something >> but systems were in place for that event and nothing was coming into our territory. So there was a lot of complaints on Facebook of who weren't learning but can alert people of
something that's not happening. >> So, >> and is that so MIMA actually pushes out the message? Do they geollocate everybody and then push it? >> Yeah. So, there would do that like that's the top tier, right? That >> makes the call on whether or not.
>> So, he was on the phone with me. Okay. Who was sitting next He was sitting next to the meteorologist. He's like, "Okay, I got the free time message. If we need it, you know, I'll call you." So I mean we have it in that
but that's an extreme. So we have from very low all the way up and even the um micro that we had a few years ago few years ago now maybe >> um where really hit was centered in some
of our demographics and needed our health. Right. So we went door to door is what it came down to. And it wasn't a large affected area, but those people that were,
you know, without power and stuff were the people that needed to be checked on and we did. We set up cooling centers and the police helped transport up people to us that needed it. We checked on those people. So we I feel like we have a very robust alerting system and
the ability to pin it based on the scar. Okay. So, um, another question and I know this is, you know, anticipating something that will hopefully never happen, but in terms of longer term events,
um, how if, for example, if there are vulnerable people who need food or medical supplies, heat, cooling, whatever, um, does mainet have its own backup uh, supply of resources for that or is is that something that we would rely on
regionally? So that would be a lot of MRIs or something like things like that. But we are working on we talked about the last meeting of getting an open card basket and speaking to like open table and things like that
so that we could access food if we needed to. Um I don't foresee that being a problem either of those things like extra food store, right? So those things we're working on, but usually those aren't an issue,
especially if there's a power outage, market basket, things like that. Just say, "Yes, we'll deal with it later." So, >> but we don't have like a big stock. >> I was just curious to know. >> Yes, we do have some panel,
you know, we have that kind of supply. We're not really equipped to set up a large scale um shelter. Even down to security, pets, there's a lot that goes into setting up a shelter. It's not as easy. You play frogs and black out.
So, we would deal with region work with region. >> Well, I look forward to a longer conversation with you at some point about this because but I realize it's so detailed. We could go on for live. >> Yes. Yeah. >> But but I appreciate the disc. Thank
you. >> Yes. >> I'm good. >> No. Okay. >> All right. Uh thank you both very much for your time. Um and again I I repeat the comments that I made that um you
know we're very proud of both departments and I hope that you relay that sentiment to the membership and you know every interaction that I have with any member of either of your
teams um is always very positive always very respectful and always you know they seek to warrant relationships and that's what support and I see it not only with myself but with others in town. So thank you.
>> I know we're getting the thank yous but chief also speak the officers by that deserve the credit but they deserve all the credit. They're the ones doing it and uh you know kudos to them and >> yeah but it comes comes from the top down. If there was problems it would
come from the top down. If there's no problems it comes from the top down as well. I would ask if you guys can stay for the next topic that's on the the agenda as it sort of meets. So to sort of segue into that, we're
going to talk about a potential intermunicipal agreement for relative to our dispatch services and I know you guys have agreed upon it. Um, and when chief when you were talking about dispatch, are the members of the
dispatch team considered members of the police department in in Maine? >> They're not necessarily considered members of the police department. There's they're a separate department, but they do fall under the police department under my budget. Okay. as far as that's >> so the followup question to that is when
a call comes in for a fire is that the same team that is dealing with so in essence our dispatch team is fire and police >> correct >> and they take all the calls relative it's not a separate correct
>> I just want to set that sort of a groundwork >> fire please and EMS yes >> and EMS I consider EMS sort of fire Yeah, >> like our paramedics are third party, so they're not, you know, we have to contract them out. So that's another
branch that they have to extend out. They have to call calls paramedics. >> Yep. Okay. >> So they reported through the deputy chief, correct? >> The dispatchers, >> they correct. They call the deputy chief. Yes. Right. So, Greg um do you want to give sort of a high level
introduction as to what is being visioned and what is being looked into as a possibility as a uh a future approach to dispatch? >> Mr. Jerry, I also ask you maybe to remind you there were there was actions
uh for both of their individual. >> Oh, sorry. >> So, but I didn't want to interrupt you. area. >> Yeah, the action is to receive the um the department overview and >> and I'll move to approve the comprehensive
emergency management plan as presented authorizing use of digital signatures if approved. >> Second. >> Uh any further comment on that? >> Okay. All in favor? Sorry about that. No, no. I I wish I I wish I Mr. Chair.
>> And then there's also in the police department, right? There is also um uh conversion of special officers to traffic officers. So, Chief, why don't you go over what's happening with that and then we can take a moment. >> Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. So, uh first of all, there's no reflection on
any of the specters. There's no there's been no wrongdoing or anything like that. They're they're tremendous employees. uh that stellar grand service is extremely thankful to the town of mayor. Just think we're at a point now we should transition that special police officer position over to traffic
officers completely and do away with having special police officers. So just a brief history um prior to post coming into which is our police officer stand in training um and really set a lot of standards on on how we operate as police departments years ago if you retired as
police officer want to continue to work details after retirement you became special police officer. So you didn't work shifts although you potentially could you maintain your police certification and you could work details. Um we're at that point now
where we have uh eight special police officers who are all certified and with those certifications come a lot of um administrative duties. There's some physical responsibilities that that come with that and what they provide is is is
uh an optimal work and detail similar to what a traffic officer does now. Um special aren't working shifts like they had been prior to the the implementation of posts. That's kind of gone away. That's what a lot of towns were using spectral police officers um in smaller towns to work shifts potentially. Um
that's kind of gone by the wayside um you know with with the post certifications uh of our eight specials the last one to work a shift was back in January of 2025 about nine months ago. Um so they don't work shift they don't supplement shifts and I think that the
the uh the better move is just to trans transition them all to uh traffic officers. It lessens the burden on um as I put down documentation in our accreditation requirements. So special police officer currently under post newly established both special police
officers are required to meet the same exact standards as full-time police officer year after year. Um they have to maintain that they have to go to a 40hour inservice every year. Firearms proficiency defensive tactics all the requirements. Uh sign off on all our
policies. It's a it's a it's a very uh heavy lift on the administrative side and upkeep of accreditation for special police officers um when they don't work any really police function other than details. Um and then there's the the fiscal responsibility to train cost to
train them equipment. We're trying to replace some of our equipment. We have to buy them some of that equipment as well. And as I kind of look at some of that down the road, we're spending x amount of thousands of dollars on special police officers equipment wise. Um, if we don't have to, they can perform basically the same function as
they are now with the traffic officer. Um, and I I think that's being fiscally responsible is definitely the way to go. I've spoken to them. I I addressed this with them prior to me making this decision. I've heard no negative feedback. In fact, they were all yes, let's do it. Our group is kind of how they were. um it's got other tools. I
think that it's just um a little bit easier on them to not have to worry about keeping up with some certifications. It's it's a it's fine for them who's it's something they do for free. They go to 40 hours in insurance for free. They don't get paid for that, but they have to accomplish that. Um firearms training, all these different certifications, CPR, first aid
um that you know again that we have to uh account for and when it comes back to credit agent when the creditors come in every three years, the assessor look at they want to know all the certifications for eight spectrals and every year what are they doing? are we documenting all of their requirements and such. So, um
it's a heavy lift just for them and I think we can just eliminate that have them continue to work details be available but in the role of a traffic officer but that's kind of my my whole thought process on that. They're all for it. No push back on it whatsoever. Again, I spoke to them prior to this. Um
but I think u for those reasons it would be best for the town to move that direction. >> Do they still wear a weapon? >> They will drop off now. >> Traffic. >> Yeah. So we currently have two traffic officers right now who uh just just wear a uniform. You don't speak to a police officer drive out. They don't have any weapons. They have no arrest powers.
They work the same function as as the special police officers. They they direct traffic. And these uh specials would just move into that same role. No weapons, no arrest powers, no certifications, no requirements moving forward, no equipment, but they would still just be out there still direct
traffic like our current two traffic. about comment would this change the cost we charge for detail officers >> I would say the same the uh the sorry I would say Jeff the yeah so the detail rate would stay the same there would be no change in the rate of what they
charge um for the vendors it's the same for the traffic officers as is for specials now same across the board so there would be no a decrease in specials All right. So, that would just require a motion from the board to approve. >> I'll move to authorize the conversion of
special officers to traffic officers. Second. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> So, what does that detail? Does that or entail? I guess you just now that's now official and you will be October 1st. >> Give your weapon. Yeah. So it'll be
Yeah, exactly. They'll turn they'll turn the gear in. They'll become traffic officers and we'll we'll transition to that. Um yeah, pretty seamless. You won't even notice the difference if someone standing a green shirt that some police officer not people don't realize it's traffic officer out there or detail officer sometimes. Anyways, um but again
for for those reasons I think it's best for town for the department to move in that direction. I appreciate you spot on that. Thank you. >> Thank you Mr. Chair. >> Okay. uh dispatch. So, um Mr. Jerry asked me to give a quick over. >> So, now back to Yes. back to where we were. >> Yeah. >> Sorry.
>> No, no, no. I I apologize for disrupting the flow. So, um excitedly, myself and the chiefs have been in discussion with um a regional dispatch, an existing regional dispatch um that is interested in expanding in
services. Very popular. It's very successful in its model that it is right now. and they reached out to oursel and the surrounding town because they're looking to looking to you know continue this model and duplicate it and we think it would be very advantageous to benefit
us for a number of reasons. Um one is the efficacy and technology they they we will be the recipient of state support and the model uh and yes it would be reliance on this other regional
dispatch but they are proven successful. They have uh they are the recipient of the state money and therefore they have the best technology. We have we have perfectly good if not the best technology right now but we would then be the recipient of this other logistics
flow if we were part of this other organization. Um there would be no change services people right now let's say let's say we have and correct me if I have a dispatcher in there right now. If they are on a call and they can't
take a new call, then it goes to another another dispatch. So one call, correct? >> Thank you. In other words, >> in general, and I don't mean to patronize the good people made, but they they don't maybe understand or appreciate that whether it's coming from this office right here or another
office, right? They just need their responsiveness and that's what this model would still provide if not enhanced because again it would be the recipient of this greater logistics and and more advantageous technology and funding and uh funding is another reason
because um if I didn't have the the responsibility of maintaining our own dispatch offices then that would be more money that I wouldn't be asking for the town for appropriation. Yes, there is that comes at a cost to this regional model although that stays in. So for for a number of years it either is at no
cost to the town and then it and then sort of gets integrated into like we we assume some cost yet but then then it comes to fruition over a number of years. Well, it's not all all sort of like upfront. Um if we were to have authorization from
the board to submit a letter of intent to go towards the state to to sort of show our willingness and excitement um joining this regional model, then we would then become in an agreement and we would move towards funding already as as
early as um July >> July. So we would already even though we would not be integrated fully into a regional model but but the sooner that we sort of like show our willingness as a type of this the sooner we'll be in this pipeline for funding which again they're starting to set the stage. They
have not yet identified where so the the model that they have right now is is nearing capacity. If they were to take on our town and another town they would have they're looking to have a new branch if you will of another another regional dispatcher. they have not yet identified where the location would be
will be near us. Um um and uh so for all those reasons I think it's exciting endeavor. Um, I'm not looking for the board's blessing this evening. Um, but I've tal I've spoken with the chiefs uh um with the
director of that dispatch. Um, and the director will want to present themselves to the board and the board. Um, and I think so I'm speaking for the chiefs, but I think we're all in agreement that this is a smart move for a number of reasons.
>> I've got a couple questions. Um, see if I can remember what they were. Um, first off, union issues. The our dispatchers are not members of the union, correct? >> They are. They have their own They have their own union. >> So, okay. So, they have it. They have a
union. How would that apply? Should we go to a different model where potentially this office shuts down, >> right? and >> what's good for that and we talked about it and then and obviously that topic has
come up with the I think there's 15 towns already in this particular regional which is public safety it's for the dispatch so um so this comes up I mean like how how are you going to either dissolve the current union
organization in that town or implement it in some way into this new model we'll talk about that but my expectation is um we for being come come prepared. My understanding is this is there already acting awareness that this is for coming
likely. Yes, potentially. Okay. Um >> Oh, no. Go ahead. >> And there's a union in place as well. >> Oh, good point. Good point. >> The other issue is sensitive to job loss. You know, some >> Yeah, that's they do provide the opportunity to
transition to the new facility. depending on where it's located. That was the whole regional in that >> really >> we we have we you know dispatch is a rather introductory level position. So
we there's an expected and and we do we do sort of experience a lot of turn although we have a very we have a number of sort of stable assistant members but you know it happens we just hire a number and it is what it is it's sort of like the nature as I I've sort sort of
learned this could help alleviate that because it's a huge office and and there and the turnover we won't see and it won't be so administratively burdensome for us either be sort of the consistency and stability
that system where would these people sit that's the question we're not there yet they haven't identified where the the new location but they're certainly in that area they most likely would not be sitting in the man >> which I understand but
geography suggests regional would be someone in our area is not regional to me >> they're calling They're looking for a place right now. They've considered Maynard. So, they're looking in here and they're looking,
>> right? >> How big of an area, >> which is why I didn't >> I mean, they're looking for a very large building >> because they want to be a very large facility. >> Yeah. They're looking like >> go to street.
>> That's might be a little large. >> Yeah. number >> if you're going in for an inspection. >> Yeah. >> Question. Sure. Um so I'm looking at the
cost structure. So year four I mean you're going to be responsible for 166,000. Year five 265,000. I think it only projects that far out. I assume that that would replace whatever the cost is for the six dispatchers I think you had in your
>> current dispatch budget >> in your Yeah, >> correct. >> And do we know if that's more or less than whatever they would cost projected for your supplement? >> Yeah. So those two numbers are are considerably less than what our current dispatch budget is. >> Okay. >> Okay. Less than we also have a member of
the professional unit that is also the lead dispatcher. I'm sorry. Communication supervisor is not in that. So that that there additional costs to the the current organization >> generally just on wages alone it's a
savings >> to you know I think the more important issue is the public safety aspect whether or not if there's any impact at all to public safety and even to Chris the perception of there not being
you know people have to get used to the fact that the person when they call 911 they think especially if you call 911 here in Maine. Do you think you're getting a guy in May or in >> I still think that I think people do when they call police department
you know I need I need an ambulance at my house where are you um and you give your address you think the person knows where you are because they live they're working in town. >> I I think where we struggle where it will be an improvement is the fact that
we have accidentally possibility people in the road. They quickly Well, looks like we lost them. I uh just texted to see if they lost internet and
uh see if we can get them back on >> say it on their radio and they're trying to talk to a frantic parent is you know is that my kid in that accident you know they're taking all those >> so are any of our neighboring communities involved in >> so
to hold police okay so they they use that Foxboro just went regional dispatch Foxboro, >> not Patriots. >> No, not Fox actually Fox too. Yes, Fox
[Music] and a lot of the funding is going towards the regional we have primaries. Did public service answer point? So that's where the state's kind of pushing all of the money to >> I mean basically we get it looks like almost a million dollars for
fun. I mean not directly but it covers the cost >> 1.2 too late. >> Did we in effect have a choice as to who to uh regionalize with? >> I mean there are there are certainly different regional um dispatch centers
kind of popping up. Um but the state is really pushing towards the larger ones. So there are smaller ones that kind of um have that maybe a couple three or four towns. The larger ones get more fun. So state funding. Um, so a conquered u recently tried to
regionalize or dispatch and it fell apart for whatever reason politically or whatever. Um, and but that was going to be small little to start. I imagine imagine they would have brought in Carl Island, you know, whatever. Um, probably they
were trying to get married. But >> I think you you'll see that we're being proactive in a few years. the grants that are going to come with this and the incentives won't be there. It'll just be you have to go here. Like the state of New Hampshire only has two PAFs in the
entire state. Like that's the way they want to go and they're going to push us that way for us to have some kind of control and voice and to be in on the development is a great opportunity. >> Yeah. They've already kind of go years ago in the past two years, three years, they've taken away the responsibility of
recording phone calls, 911 calls. state used to manage that. They're now pushing off individual cities and town saying we're not going to do that anymore. So they're already starting to back away from some things as they go towards regionalization. >> So hearing all this other comments
I was going to my only other comment is I presume that this also would decrease our the burden um that we would bear of cost for like equipment and things that come off with some regularity that are capital expenses. Yes, there's a there's a lot of funding through the grant. Um,
mention the ones come up here. There's a lot of money replacing portable radios, cruiser radios, infrastructure, towers, things like that. That um >> we must have to pay currently for some computer systems or >> Oh, yeah. So, we have a completely
separate server room just to support our dispatch and and all the costs, the dis and we've been upgrading. We keep up with the latest technology. um >> it's not inexpensive. It usually comes out of capital planning and equipment in
the software. >> We need repeaters for our radios. All of those things would be >> definitely a free cash. >> You put it in perspective, which I get is different than us, but their per year grant they got $6 million. So,
>> so to radios, infrastructure, computers, generators for town buildings that you know those are the things that we're looking for which this letter would give us that opportunity to at least go in that direction. Jeff
>> the only the question I had was based on something that you said we have number of people in the union that are dispatchers and then we have one person who's the director will the director position go away we talk about that's not clear yet but similar to the dispatchers there's my expectation that
we would be there would be a transition this is not an overnight deal of this but that there would be a transition plan in place. Um, and I would be interested in hearing a sort of incorporation an offering if nothing else to to this this other person.
So having heard what I've heard and I hope to hear what the board thinks um I would say I would like to hear some um comments from the director of the region which I know he was willing to come and
speak with us um this week if he wanted to but I wanted to have the discussion about see if everybody was and on board and interested. So let's set him up to speak with us if not our next >> comments from
>> the director of the program so we get more insight to what it's all about. >> Okay. >> Um so that there's more understanding from a public perspective from our perspective as to how the system works. So there's a comfort with how the system works so that we begin the process to
move forward. Residents and nobody is shocked by it and nobody's concerned that it will impact public safety in any fashion. So you have them come in for a 10-minute presentation and answer questions that we have. Public can hear
comments and then we can move presumably give instruction as to how we want to move forward or not after that presentation. Does that sound appropriate? >> All right. So, Greg, >> let them know. >> All right. Can I ask one small question reading this? So, it says the town
meeting authorization is required to enter into the agreement um and town meeting approval will be required to approve appropriation. Do we have to does the um approval to enter the agreement and the approval to appropriate have to happen at the same
time meeting even if the appropriation is three years out? >> I I I think you might have misread. It does not require time to enter the agreement. It requires time meeting to appropriate money. >> So the select to enter the agreement but
if and there's no cost initially. Um but eventually there will be as we as we've discussed and like any year. >> So in a few years we would have to go to town meeting to authorize the appropriation. >> We do that every time. Want to make it clear to the public that we're doing this. There's no
confusion. Three years from now, we go to town meeting and oh, to pay for our dispatch >> California say that we didn't that we've reduced in this category in this >> but yeah that would be
>> that's fair although it's mostly transparent. I mean like we like nothing no cost goes down around here except for this. So we would that would I would not that cost would just be done by some other initiative or program salaries. >> All right. So
>> thank you both. Uh Greg we know you know what you we have to do to get the gentleman from this program >> and to speak with us. >> Keep in this >> we want we want to be the next town in so that we on our opportunity too.
That's probably the more time they get initially, the faster they can get up and running well the >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you both. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Item nine is the contract
renewal for the director of public works >> is here. >> And you're welcome to come up front if you wish, but you don't have to. Um, Greg, you want to summarize? >> Yes, Mr. Chair. So, um, I'm recommending
the board uh, ratify, so to speak, approve um, in public the appointment agreement for Justin Mark to serve in his appointment of as governor of public works. Uh, this would be the next contract term. This is your third third
uh, term. Uh, July 1st, 2025 to January, 2028. Um Justin was so good to provide performance tools many many many months ago and uh and you know back and forth appreciated himself and I and some deliberations board the executive
session and this is the result. So um being cognizant of the many many hats that Justin wears and the many many responsibilities that he has and that that all the department heads also got the same five minute guidance by the way. So if
his son to present his overview, um you'll hear everything that you already know, all the the the wide field and range as all. Um so with all that in in acknowledgement um the contract is meant
to sort of reflect that way of responsibility but also sort of keep in line with our comparative communities research and and I feel very confident that nothing in this contract is out of line with what our regional and and statewide what what
compensation is expected but no two public work directors are alike. So whether they have department or deputies or assistants or a separation in responsibilities often times you'll see towns have separate water districts to therefore not
in this little town of everything falls into public from water sewer trees on the potholes mowing the lawn um making sure the lights stay on literally or figuratively like everything falls under public works and we and we are a
small city and that's a that's a Uh um and I think Justin does an outstanding job of accepting those responsibilities, looking forward to those responsibilities. Um and so although a lot of those a lot of those uh that I believe the spirit of those
responsibilities are reflected in this um but this is a relatively standard contract language. Most of it is either reminiscent of the contract language he already had or it could be sort of reflected in other another agreements that the town already has. So again, um, appreciate the
board's uh, thoughtful consideration of these terms and I highly recommend. >> Thanks, Greg. And, um, the board heard and discussed many of the things that you raised here during our executive session discussion in preparation for
this contract. So, we're aware of those. the public is um hearing things that the board is already aware of and has discussed. Um Justin, do you have any comments to make at all? >> No, I'm happy to continue my service um
in the town of Mayard. I look forward to working with all the stakeholders including the board uh many of the relationships and the committees I I hold leazison on to as well continuing to grow and move forward and fix the water problem.
>> Yes. as as you know, I mean, first off, um I appreciate the relationship that we've developed and um and the insight that you provide to the entire board as to what's going on. It's a very I see it. It's a very difficult position that
we're in as community, but let alone being one sort of the lead dog on it is not easy, I'm sure. So, thank you for putting up with that and uh I know you're doing the best you possibly can to resolve and find
solutions and to work with us to do so. So, I thank you for for that. Um does any other members of the board have anything to say forward looking forward to continue to work with you, Justin? Thanks, I appreciate it.
>> Even in the two years that I've known you, I'm beginning to learn how to keep up with you. Yes. >> So is there a motion >> to approve the employment agreement with just for appointment as director of public works for terms by 2025
June 30th 2018 as presented in authorizing the use of digital signatures. >> Second. Further discussion. All in favor? >> Congratulations. Congrats. Good luck.
>> All right. Next item is um draft war articles accepting um various articles that are we've already seen these articles. So it's really just accepting the article controls as articles.
>> So Mr. Jared, you're exactly right. the um the planning board and the planning director came to the board and the board um it's a very procedural is it's very kind of odd process the board did
receive and then submit back to the planning board for for adoption these various bylaw amendments and now it's back to the board um and then one more so um uh they say
this position was submitted. The signatures were approved by certified by the first office and that it's the petition relative to the prohibition of anti coagulance fields superintendent
which was a followup to this is a petition that was approved by town last year. Um this one had already this is it. Um so the board is asked to accept it.
>> Is there any difference between what's being banned in this own rule petition versus what was banned in the previous cyst? My understanding is that this is for >> That's what I'm saying. But is there any difference on what's being banned?
>> Yeah. >> SARS and Fars. >> But is it >> is that the same as what we on town property? >> I don't know if comment doesn't you know is there any difference in the substance that is being banned between what was already approved and then what this is?
>> No, because Robert made an amendment on the floor to take advantage of the second generation of that. So now what she's proposing right now is to incorporate that across the community outside of the municipal authority role. So right now all townies
are prohibited to move that across >> but to ban the exact same with the rules that are currently on town. The idea is to make that it's not >> to broaden it and then broaden the chemicals that are being banned. >> Did have that adjustment that last so that so yes it will relay exactly what
we >> Thank you. as she explained when she made her presentation, this exact same article, if you want to call it that, it's being debated or being presented by the state legislature to make it statewide anyway. And if that
passed, which is seemingly leaning towards this would be sort of a mood issue as we go forward. Anyway, >> that's great. See this very much as a lobbying effort. >> Yeah. >> More more than, you know, sort of like we're not going to be policing everyone's backyard.
Although There is but it is but it's meant that we petitioned in spirit of that. >> Yeah because the legislator our legislative representatives would see that our town supports this so therefore >> they forward it. So and by the way
regardless of how we feel about it because it's petition based on our charter we must accept it as an article anyways. we really don't have any issues with and it's up to the petitioner to present it and to uh support the town
meeting. >> And if this did pass, it would still take the action of another town meeting to pass the associated bylaw before anything like this went into effect. Is that correct? >> I'm rereading her language right now. I'm sorry. Excuse me.
That might be correct because in her language it's to adopt a bylaw. The bylaw is not. So there would have to be the full bylaw of how this now my guess is largely
uh continuation or this is what is already on the books for towns. But this would be >> yeah the last sentence in her description suggests if an actition special legislation would permit the town to determine the extent to which AR should be prohibited or restricted in
manner under aure bylaw approved by town. So, thank you, Joe. >> So, yes. >> Yes. Thank you. >> All right. So, um if there's a motion as outlined, >> move to accept.
>> Go ahead, Lindsay. >> Move to accept the following draft controls. A. Zoning bylaw amendment section 2.2 of overlay districts. L. Zoning bylaw amendment section 9.4. 4 of downtown mixed east overlay district. M
zoning bylaw amendments section 9.7 of powdermill overlay district. N zoning bylaw amendments section 9.2 of water supply protection district and section 11 of definitions battery energy storage system. O
citizens petition home rule petition prohibit anti-coagulant rodenticides within the town of Maynard as shown and forward to the finance committee for review and comments. >> Second. Any further comments or discussion? Hearing none. All in favor?
Passes unanimously. Thank you. >> All right. Next up is the approval of the overall war for special town meeting. Um obviously the sequence of the articles is from town me and town moderator Dick Downey and he'll also
provide direction as to the type of votes required as we go along >> and and those are reviewed by that's you're right Mr. Sure. Yeah, he does he does take the first step at the the you know open majority 2/3 whichever and then
>> yeah his recommendations are reviewed by Tom >> and council has reviewed all of these diversions. So actually many of them come directly advice either way. Um so these these are you know what the board
has seen in the past. They are in the process of being reviewed by finance committee. The finance committee has seen a number of them. They have provided recommendations on a number of them but not entirely. They have a little bit more time. This is the last regular scheduled software meeting before our deadline to to send it to the
publication. Um the world has done an outstanding job keeping track of all of these things. Even if there's only 12 articles, it is still a massive undertaking to know where all these articles are, where the comments are at, the editing of it,
receive the direction moderator. Lots of great work, Greg. Getting >> Thank you, Greg. >> I'll get to you after Greg finishes. Okay. I see your hand up. >> Yeah. >> So, Mr. P, would you like me to speak to to probably why Natasha?
>> Yeah. Well, let's hear what Natasha has to say. Oh, very good. >> Perhaps she has different comment. >> Um, >> yes. Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes, we can. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for recognizing me. I just wanted to um Maro couldn't be
here this evening. So last night I was at the finance committee meeting and they were going over the articles and um we became aware that there are two uh particular articles relevant to the school committee or the school property that have not been discussed with the
school committee. one of them um in particular which is the authorization of agreement for school property and the reuse um articles five and six I believe um having gone through this before with
solar projects there is certain steps that require school committee approval for the reuse before negotiation should be entered into any type of agreement um the school committee is not meeting again until September nomber 25th
which I've requested and Marorrow and Brian have confirmed they will put this matter on the school committee's agenda but uh at this point I would not um assume that the school committee is um in agreement with what is being
presented because we have not had the opportunity to deliberate over the matter and from those who were here when we had a prior school project that the school committee was not brought in at the beginning. It did present some contentious points that I think we would
hope to avoid um relating to projects that are on school property. So, I just wanted to bring that to the attention of uh the select board as you are looking to vote. I don't know if these particular articles are timesensitive
that they have to be um decided at this moment for a special town meeting or if it's something that could await annual town meeting that would allow the school committee time to understand the scope the project um the areas in particular.
We've really had no information to understand what particular areas are being looked at for reuse besides what's written in these articles and we've had no opportunity to question anybody um or get more information. So I just wanted
to provide that information. Um I you know again can't say for sure but I I know that the school committee will be um discussing it maybe voting. I can't say that the vote will be favorable. And it's not that anyone would be against solar. It's just that there has been no
time that allows the school committee in less than, you know, two weeks to really get information and and and you know, come to a point of um agreement on how the revenues will be used, who's involved in negotiating. Like there's a lot of things that came
up last time that we had strong feelings on. Um what particular areas are are being considered for reuse. they were the last time we had like maps, you know, that were showing, you know, carports where we haven't seen anything like that. Um, one of the articles seems
very broad as far as looking at Fowler. Um, so anyway, I just wanted to bring that up. These are some things that we just um are looking to have time before we can get to a place of comfort that in a decision and not feel rushed. And so I
I would want to know if this is something that one have negotiations already started um preemptively and two is this something that is time-sensitive that could maybe if it's not could we look to annual town meeting to proceed.
>> Thank you Natasha. No negotiations have started because there's no authorization to negotiate on that issue. So that that's one step. Um the other comment is uh and I'll let Greg Why don't I let Greg speak to it
first and then >> uh well very good. So you're right there is no negotiations also for the context of the public who may be watching on Facebook or they watch these effort I don't know but um so the articles that uh Mr. starts bringing up is article
five and article six. Article five is relative to uh seeking town being voters approval to authorize the select board to enter a lease agreement and a power purchase agreement for the use of solar panels at the green metal school um the new green metal school. Solar panels
have been a part of the discussion and de development of design of the schools since day one. Um in keeping with the best technology, the best practices, the most energy efficient uh methodology as well as you know meeting the
sustainability goals of the town. We've been talking about this for years. Um I I was not aware that the school committee was not made aware of the designs. Um, I try to keep the board, this board informed through the Green
Middle School project building reports. Um, I guess maybe you have an advantage because I'm your chief procurement officer. And being that it's a town project at this stage and you are the owners of that project, therefore contracts come through the board as opposed to the the requirement of going
through school committee first. Um this and but actually on that note it is um not just appropriate but is advised from town council that just like we did for the high school both the lease agreement and the power purchase agreement are are under the responsibilities of the
boards. Um, as the topic points out, four years ago when this topic came up, in order to install and manage panels at the high school, council had advised that um, although town meeting approval
is one step, another step is to have the authorization from the school committee to allow for that repurposing of those specific areas of the school. In that case, it was high school. In this case, it's the new elementary school. But again, um, it is I I assumed incorrectly
apparently that the school committee was not aware of the designs that included the solar panels. Now, I would say that um Beth Greenblat, our longtime consultant for All Things Solar, has advised that if the school committee
doesn't support the article, the town meeting does not authorize a long-term lease and the PPA, the power unit. Most likely, the Green Middle School will not have solar since changes to the federal investment tax credit provisions will cause the project to be less economically.
Again, I don't mean to mean it's necessarily that consequential. I I believe it is though, especially with the uncertainties at the federal level with all policies across the board. I would I would highly encourage both the select board to continue to move this
article towards kind of meaning voters to approve it and for the school committee to authorize the repurposing of those properties. Now if there is a discomfort from the school committee for authorizing for the inclusion of the Fowler school this particular article so
be it. Um the select board could this evening even or at time meeting floor we could either revise that article tonight or amend it on time meeting floor to remove meing of school. the other the other properties are more fully under
the responsibility of this land and I try to identify as many properties as Justin and I talk about potential redevelopment or or rebuilding in the future to again take advantage of the solar echies better efficiencies sustainability that's the that's
everything from this roof with the fire station with DW >> aside from the power piece have these other pieces been discussed as as um parts of the green mineral school building committee which everything I
just mentioned that correction >> no the solar is considered to the green metal school have those been a part of the conversation about the green middle school military >> yes very often
I know we talked about some of them but so I guess my comment that would You have three people in the school departments that are part of that committee that this has been discussed with. Their responsibility is to tell in
the school board in in its entirety of these things, not ours. So you have Mary Brley, Alexis Fishbone, and Brian H all who have been part of all of these discussions. So to suggest that the school committee
is blind on this grossly incorrect. Can I can I make a point of clarification first? So, um if I may, >> please go ahead. >> Um so, the school committee has always been in favor of green, you know, um
solar panels for Green Meadow. So, this article, article 5 is not exclusive to Green Meadow is part of part of the issue. it is looking and and speaking to the finance committee last night. Um they were under the impression and I
guess maybe Greg spoke with them last week that Greg was looking to do like a preemptive like for future planning of areas and that's where where you have Fowler Middle School parking lot um you know under the care and custody of the
select board. So, if we were only talking about the Green Meadow School and what is happening right now, that might be a different conversation because I think all parties to your point, Chris, have assumed that we would be following more sustainable practices.
But after hearing discussions from the finance committee and reading the languages that this does not um pertain specifically to Green Meadow and also not understanding um what I guess what areas of the parking lot I don't know
normally they were asking if we had schematics. I don't haven't seen any but I don't know if the finance committee they were asking about that. I don't know if that has been shared of what the locations that are being looked at for the green. Um but the other part is that
town council has very clearly indicated to um the town administrator that he needs to seek out and obtain approval for any reuse of property. So it's not just informing like hey this is happening. There's a very uh there's a
legislative jurisdictional process a step that has to occur that is just hasn't happened. So it's not just an FYI. I just wanted to be clear on that. We have not and that was a communication that says the as of now the school committee has not been asked to um
authorize anything and I I think if I had not emailed we would not have been author asked to provide authorization for any reuse and we would be >> I understand what you're saying Natasha I'm not I'm not taking exception or arguing with you at all >> but what I'm saying is we've already had
two people in this room tonight suggest that we would remove the reference to the bow a school if necessary to to do this thing. But there's three people on the committee that have been part of the conversations and discussions in the green med green meadow building
committee about the things that are specific only to the green meadow which are part of this article. I'm not talking about the power piece because we've already said we would alter the um this on the floor or we would alter it this evening. I'm only talking about the power piece and that's what that's why
you know that's why Mike Stevens and I are on the green metal building committee so bring such things to this committee I would assume that Mary Brley and Alexis Fishbone and Brian pass bear the same responsibility to bring such things to your committee >> we do get updates from yeah we
>> there's no more argument about it that's all I'm saying just making >> we do get updates I don't think we understood the steps that there was a timeliness of an approval needed steps. >> I'm not worried about the steps. I'm just making a statement of of those things. That's all I'm making. There's
no need to argue with it. >> All right. The um so Natasha I I and I don't want to mistake what your thoughts are. Um you're not objecting to the article language that mentions the Green Meadow
Route. Is that correct? I'm I'm saying that the school committee as a whole body has not deliberated on um anything that requires their approval. I I I can give you my personal thoughts, but that's not really what's
>> and I'ming to see what what your general understanding of what the school committee's thoughts are. >> Yes. I guess my thought is school committee was heavily involved in the negotiations of how the Green Middle School was going to be presented last year when or two years ago when it went
before town meeting and part of that whole discussion probably the only contentious part of that whole discussion was the electrification of the building and the big issue there was uh the fact that it would be solar there
would be a solar array it would be there would be ground source energy. There would be all sorts of electrification issues. And now at this stage when we have an article that allows us to enter into negotiations on getting that installed to hear that the school
committee and again I'm just I'm not talking about your opinion just that the school committee would be kind of shocked to hear that we're putting we're considering negotiating putting um solar arrays on the roof of the new school.
>> No, that's not at all what I've said. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the school committee has not been asked to approve the reuse of any school property for >> Green Meadow the new Green Middle School. And this is a question that I
asked Greg to ask council and I don't know if you have an answer on it yet or not. The new Green Middle School does not belong to the school district. The new Green Middle School belongs to the town of Maynard right now until it gets turned over to
>> the school department. It's the town building. That's why the town's responsible for the MSA procedure. The town's responsible for maintaining the the committee that we elect that we appointed a new member to today. >> Right? >> So the decisions on the building does
not go to the school committee. The school committee doesn't have anything to do with that building. So I think if we isolate the Fowler aspect or anything outside of the Green Meadow project is what the broadness of that article in the way it's worded
>> I can appreciate that aspect. Um so if if we take the green if we take the fowler out of it I think the intent of the article was not to overstep any bounds or anything like that and I know maybe you're not suggesting that either. No,
>> but rather to allow us to open the door to begin negotiations in a broader picture as to how to build our solar u array in a fashion that will help us. We put all the possible municipal buildings
on there and included school buildings so that we could then have that discussion down the road. Um, and this was the opportunity to do it. If school being in the article is going to be an issue, I just don't know if that will
affect our ability to negotiate a better deal with a particular solar company or not. We we could probably and I don't want to say what we can or can't do because I don't know. We could probably with
withdraw the fowler language, bring that to the fall to the annual town meeting. But but I I really think it's important we move forward with allowing us to do the green meadow school roof and then whatever other municipal buildings we want to involve in this article and
leave the Fowler school out. So, one thing if I could, um, one of the areas that in the past that was a question for the school committee with other prior solar installations was that the school pays its own utilities. Um, and so, how does that work with the
credits that go in as opposed to what happens at the town level? Does there behind the meter happening? Like that kind of nuance that might be a little different than how it applies to the overall town. So, um, when we authorized
the high school, um, we had part of that stipulation was we had the SL, uh, the superintendent as part of the negotiation. Um, we authorized that he be part of the negotiation. So, he would have a party or understanding of how that would play out from the financial
aspect as well. Um, so again, these are some questions that just finance numbers of how that would work, part of the negotiations, making sure that the school had an understanding of how that impacted our budget as well for the solar in the end when whether it's credits or however that would work. Um,
and when it came to projects like the Green Meadow, there's very clearly a body who's scrutinizing every aspect of that. So, I really have no question that the Green Meadow part is going to go fine. There is no project or proposed project for Fowler. And so that's the question that is kind of feels a little
preemptive just to support the reasoning where fowler might be a little um might not be the best to include at this point without having an understanding of scope or project intent there. >> Great. Do you have any further comments? >> Nothing to add. >> Okay. Any questions or comments from the
board? >> Uh if included um what would and we wanted to do a project at some point. We don't have any plans right now. Correct. >> No. All right. So again, we don't have any plans, but I can't help myself. >> What would the process look like? I'm looking for more than this.
>> We'll go we'll go back in time six years ago um >> 2020 2021 >> school business manager at the time had had announced that she was going to be moving on from the school system to a different system. she had presented at
the joint budget review at that time that there was um desires on behalf of the school department. I won't say committee but school department that there that the school department pursue or look to if nothing else even a
feasibility study of of installing solar panels over this car park and the and the at school not not specifically Fowler school identified because of its square footage it's its appropriateness of the roof and her
um recommendation was to pursue that in order to alleviate the cost that comes towards that we weren't even talking about. >> We saw schematics of that where they would go into that. So, >> um with her departure and a significant
amount of turnover at the school department, my man Justin took on a lot of that and and there therefore we started into um a feasibility study and we engaged with multiple vendors. We we had a longtime partnership with Beth Reblat who held our hand. We had we had
a task force of of liaison from the select board, the school committee and maybe somewhere else but yeah. We we talked about at um the every square inch of town where the solar
panels would go with again the initiative from the school department school committee school department that we that it was that this this endeavor I'm describing was inspired by examination of the found so fast forward through modifications of
plans change of vendors eventually we do now have panels at the high school which is offsetting the cost of facilities and the energy usage at that facility ties into the greater budget which is again sort of and they are the largest budget
by far of the town. So, um, kind of lost where I was going with that, but but now now we are looking to continue that work. That was again in a in a discussion six years ago. And I
mistakenly apparently included the Fowler School with the assumption that that conversation had not fallen off, that it was that it was still existent to some degree. And no, there is no current plans. Although a feasibility study was produced and shared publicly and discussed during during task force
meeting and although those plans are well out of date now and any sort of future plans would have to be redone and and repured. Um, but that being said, just like all the other town departments, in order to sort of like check a box of of administration and
bureaucracy, if nothing else, I was I had recommended that the board include the college school in this article to tell me doesn't it doesn't need to be I don't know of any sort of detrimental consequences of not including at this time um because we don't have plans. We
don't have we don't we are not moving in that direction at this time. In the very near future, I believe we do as a town to look at the roof with our college school, replace the HVAC systems, which will be a brand new facility. When those opportunities arise, we also look at the energy efficiencies to sustainability,
how we can better that is probably will presented to us meaning collectively in the next number of weeks. So I was looking again I just thought we would sort of maintain that momentum and then just sort of I wasn't trying to hide it
within the article. I I thought I did honestly again this is on me I suppose that I I thought was just part of the conversation. Um and similarly we don't have plans to review here. I don't have plans to to this capability to build
garage, but I'm hoping it seems like the board is receptive to having this check mark check box up. Now, this is all come very quickly. I I was not deliberately keeping any sort of request for authority from the school committee. It's only been I was actually checking
emails. It's only been three weeks since this came up with in conversation with myself, Beth Greenbut and and town council about preparation for these articles and I and I largely copied the article that was already approved at the time meeting for high school. So this is
again I did not expect this level of surprise. I apologize for that in the topic. Um, but there's a certain expediency that should occur in order to take advantage of the the fiscal fiscal conditions. >> Can you just remove Fowler from the
article and move on? >> You can. I think you can. I think you can. Can I um because that was all great background information, but my question is if we as a community, not as an individual, any one board, but if we as a community wanted to build solar power on the parking lot or um on the roof at
Fowler School and let's say that this article passes as it's written tonight, what procedurally would be the next steps to get from you to >> as as David was distinguishing between the high school and the current elementary school project, the high school was very much responsibility of
the of the school committee and therefore explicitly required as county council advised and as as was noted by the authorization from the school committee to to repurpose that for these meets for the for the select board to
negotiate and and off and to enter into agreement for lease agreement power agreement and authorize the board subject to that. So, um, that would probably be the same procedure and expectation for the Fowler
Hill School because that school is not a town project as is the elementary school right now. So, that that I expect. >> So, there would still be a school committee vote if we wanted to put on the power school. Yes. Even if this article passes, there's still a check
that the school committee has. >> Yes. >> Okay. But presumably um we could take Fowler out of the language for now. The school committee could meet and if they were uh in favor then we
could take an amendment or pass. >> That's true. >> And that way the school committee would have the opportunity to address the matter. um and and then you know there's a mechanism
>> that's another option. So um probably the safest way to approach it is to um to amend to amend our article as it as it's presented here or the article as presented here to read a portion of the new Green Meadow school roof top and
parking lot and then eliminate and the middle school Fowler rooftop and parking lot and put it under the care put it under the care custom control select board still remains correct because that pertains to the green meadow. Right. I would I would just start
>> or just we would just strike a >> Yeah. >> Uh and the middle school fowler rooftop and parking lot, >> right? >> If that's what the board provides. >> And then to Mike's point, which is a good one, that gives the school
committee enough time to discuss whether they want to add the Fowler building in as a possibility. and then we amend it on the floor at town meeting in October. >> Does that sound right, Natasha? >> Um I think it's an option that the you
know I certainly can um share with the school committee and see how they they feel if they have any other questions. Some members haven't even have any awareness that this is happening. So, um, but that it gives more time, I think, um, as opposed to requiring a
decision at the September 25th meeting that might, you know, be not favorable because of a lack of time and deliberation on it. >> Would the uh, school committee meet need somebody present to uh, to help explain this and answer questions about it?
>> Brian, I already >> Yeah, I think Brian and and Greg have connected about it. it would be helpful. I know I don't know if Beth is available. She's always very um good at these things. She's helped in the past to kind of connect the dots where it can
be a little bit dense a bit. And um and I think also Greg um I appreciate you explaining and I think the the the challenge that um maybe is maybe too recent in my mind is you know there was a time when we did not agree the school
committee and the select board on a project for Green Meadow the solar array in that back field and it came down to um who's authorization like for the property and that's kind of why you know proceeding without that just seems like
an important step to making sure that we secure and you know cross our tees and dotting our eyes on um but I I don't think since the uh David as you mentioned the the Green Meadow is under right now the care of the town I don't think there is a a need to to do the
reuse is that right Greg to word it that way because it's already under >> so I'm just going to language I'm not look so I don't write articles I read right Um I but I'm I'm going to
follow with council about specifically the the necessity for the school committee to authorize the reverse but either way that that language I'm confident in because it came >> well didn't didn't town meeting
have the the vote we took last year uh or two years ago whenever it was on the school itself the authorization for the school. Yeah. >> Um, didn't that include solar as part of the article?
>> Uh, you put me on the spot. Let me go check. I don't want to see. >> I don't know if it had dedicated solar because I think it was like designs hadn't really I don't know if they have, but it was I know every conversation again the school committee has been very much in support of you know making sure
you know we're solar ready and getting panels on. So it's not a matter matter of not wanting to proceed that way and I think there's been a lot of people part of that conversation to >> even if it wasn't in the article once the school building committee started its discussions and I'm not a member of
the committee but Mike and Chris are and I'm sure that >> there have been discussions about solar >> during that so it seems to me that the school committee maybe not by formal
vote, but certainly by participation in those meetings with their representatives to Chris's point, including the superintendent of schools, um not saying, "Hey, wait a minute. The school the school committee hasn't agreed that we want this to be have
solar panels on the roof seems kind of off off twisting." >> Yeah, I don't think that's the issue at all. So, I think it's more >> then the whole issue with green meadow shouldn't be shouldn't be a concern to Right.
I think it's more that they're they probably are under already under the care of the select board. It's just a matter of >> projects that are not yet underway in other places. I guess what I would hope to avoid is that if there's
if it's fowler goes to the care and custody of select board there's a a plan to use the property in a certain way really the school committee's input on that project is less because it's no longer under the care and custody of the school and if there's a moment where we don't agree or align on something we
would end up where we 5 years ago potentially where there could be negotiations underway and maybe our input into a project on school property might not be um taken at the early onset of it.
As with that rem array that Justin I know had worked a lot on in 2021 that got scrapped that we voted against. I'm sure >> we remove
from >> also like probably needs a new roof anyway soon. So I don't think we'll put any solar panels up there anytime soon. So I feel like let's just remove it and move on. >> The roof. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. If the the parking lot issue is still there, but we can remove parking lot too. We we had looked at the parking lot issue as well when we were looking at the high school and there was reasons why either the the dollar amount for the cost wasn't you know as Justin likes to
say the juice wasn't worth the squeeze at some point just for looking at that. Um but that was something that we have gone back to because at one point it was being looked at when we were looking at the high school only. Um it depends on the vendor really and then the expense
and what they have to install in it and how much that area would reap. Um, so I don't think it's again something that we would be against. We just want to, you know, address it as the projects come about. >> Okay.
I uh I absolutely know that and I don't want to rehash history, but I absolutely know that I sat and I think Justin was in the room at the time. We talked about turn radiuses of buses, right? the turn radiuses of the fire department relative
to where we would be able to put solar on on the in the Fowler school so that when they I remember the I remember the discussion so and there was a member of the school committee on that and it was brought up by the school committee yes
Marorrow was on that committee >> but again that's that's okay >> thank you very much y So is there a motion to amend this article? Can we do that right now? >> Yeah, you can move to approve it as
amended, which is to strike from article five. >> So leave the language up to the town administrator to make sure so we don't say something like to approve the special town meeting as amended 27, 2025
as presented. I'm okay with that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is there a second of that? >> I do. >> All right. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> All right. Thank you, Natasha. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you all. Thank you. >> Um the next article is capital planning and building committee issues. Greg. >> Yeah, Mr. Chair. So, um in in examining the like four goals for this year. Um the one of the goals is to sort of
invest a little bit more in our long-term plan. Um I did a little research uh about what other towns sometimes do which is a building committee or permanent town building committee whatever however they may call it those may be. Again this the the concept
may be that this would be complimentary to our existing um bodies which is the finance committee, capital planning committee, select board and and the various other you know um authorities of the town school committee otherwise and so this this would specifically look at
to those other bodies particularly committee and um so that being said um the board is um you welcome to to look at the research I did. I included here and I I gave like I just I sort of like looked at the different towns and the
different charges and I put together simple charge. Um, however, um, if the board would like, you know, there's no there's no motivation either way, but if the board would like to sort of, um, pause on considering this building
committee or whatever you want to call it until the near future because in the next uh, budget subcommittee meeting, which is scheduled for next week, Benzowski from the capital committee is um, invited to provide presentation and that could be really informative as to what this voting committee proposal
could could do for the town. Um, so there you have it. I mean, like I'm trying to sort of I'm keeping this on the agenda if the agenda would allow just to sort of like keep it at the forefront of what your goals are is this bigger picture. >> Yeah. I um if you think it's best to
wait for that discussion with the uh budget subcommittee and hear what the ideas are that that Ben, who has some history with this type of stuff, might be able to propose. We're already far enough into I mean far it may not seem it but we're already into FY27 plan that
with this committee wouldn't have enough time to get this leg under to be able to provide the issue but it and in all likelihood it would really be and I would think committee would look at good work like that really inform
let's just keep keep moving on >> and keep uh this should be a continued um you know um agenda item capital planning, select goal, select board goals, capital planning, whatever. Um,
going forward, >> at least until we're satisfied and we got that taken care of, >> if there's any um recommendations or edits from the individual members, y'all can email me feel like you don't need language you guys judging. You think there's a good time out there you want
to, you know, replicate? >> All right, I think it looks good. Um, do we need to take a look at the charge for the capital planning committee and just make sure we're delineating responsibility? I'm not worried about it, but do future future >> if they're not exceeding their authority
per se >> or or that we're not assigning an overlapping kind of scope or understanding set up one to be advisory to both of us or whatever the case. Again, I'm not worried about the current makeup. There's no makeup all the time. It's not it's not status. It's
>> the capital planning committee is a is it's actually um mentioned in the charter. >> It is I look at the charter it is in the charter. >> Yeah. And so I sometimes forget which is what um so the charge is probably just
do what the charter says and then as long as this doesn't impede that. So, let's make sure it doesn't impede anything that we've got charter provided for the capital bank. >> Your arms your arm your hand is up again. So, >> yeah, I I'm sorry. I just had one
clarification. I apologize. The removal of Fowler, is that going to be from both articles five and six? I just I couldn't I didn't catch if that was the amendment that was being proposed. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Yeah. But but with that note, I think the draft charge looks appropriate to me. >> The draft article >> the draft charge of the >> Oh, I got it. >> Um item number 11. >> Yes. Okay.
It's a lot shorter than Buck. >> I was I was praying the my my boss in West likes short and sweet charges. >> I like it. >> Like get to the mission mission statement. You come the any committee should
develop it policies and procedures like how they how they >> Yeah. Yeah, the draft charge is okay to be too based on I don't think it's too broad. I don't think it's too restrictive. It doesn't commit anything to anybody.
>> Yeah. But everyone does it and every and and a charge to change. Anyway, so I appreciate the board that and I'll put it on the next agenda and I look forward to um more conversations about it, especially informed by things else this
week. And this would be an appointed voting. Yes. I don't want to say >> by the way we envisioned it, right? >> Yes. It advises actually. Have we talked about that? Let's go. >> I think we did. It would be well maybe
we sort of did it in like visioning. >> So, so um the town administrator can can form working groups or task forces with whatever you want to call it. Um, however, if it's an addition of the select board, then you then the the
understanding is you've kind of taken it up like I can't then do my own task force and in some way sort of skirt being law which a task force to the town allows. So if if it is an initiative select board and it is one of your goals. So this could be I think it's
appropriate to have have you be appointed either way. I'm a big fan of appointing people because it makes them raise the right hand from the clerk so that they're following ethics law etc. So u it's just it's a it's just a a
slight additional formality having so we can talk about >> um in the draft language it says it's advising and blah blah blah the supervision on construction. Okay then it says including reconstruction operation or enlargement. Does that
include buildings that already exist that need significant repair update or whatever? >> Yeah. Yeah. Like the DPW visibility study is probably a good example that could have been something presented by this body >> as opposed to just us two saying this is
a good idea. horizon legitimacies and bian. >> Anything else? >> All right. Correspondences >> move to accept correspondences A through C as shown. >> Any questions on it? Hearing none. All
in favor of accepting. Move on. Town administrator report. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll be quick. Um, I got to hire an assessing firm. Uh, we're we we've made a lot of progress and a couple setbacks we ended up hiring cheap assessors. So, I'm going to look
to hire a a firm. They exist. A lot of towns, most of us, particularly small ones. That's what they're reliant on contractors. We use a lot of contractors as far as assessing, but we've had a chief assessor traditionally. In this case, I I think I need to hire somebody. we'll go back out to recruit but um but
I'm just informing the board especially now we're in preparation for um the tax classification that's like say the tax rate that's what the board does so instead of having a chief assessor I may have a consultant give that but it's all in partnership with the board assessors
and I have a very good board of right so we're more more reliant on them than ever but they can handle um through the um request of the select forward to, you know, kind of see where we are with the whites pond um conditions of the whites
pond. Justice Demarco and I met with um the state contractor consultant GZA who is the uh licensed site professional and you got that right for um the whites bond um project on behalf of the state.
Um it was very informative. I made I make a quick note in my my town minister's report that you know something that I will brief. We kind of got a preview of what was going to be the the public report and some of their their proposals for mitigating the
potential ongoing contamination of white spot and pest chemicals as it relates to um the use of certain substances that the fires that the fire had. Excuse me. So, so um but I you know GZA had not yet presented that report publicly so I'm
not providing it to you this evening out of respect for them and their due process of the state but um it was a great meeting. It was very informative. I I very much appreciate think with us. Um when I have the public when I have the public presentation I'll prepare for
so you guys can see. Okay. Then um town cler office is closed next Wednesday and Thursday. the clerk's phone comments. U we are in the process of hiring hopefully in the very near future having an assistant town clerk so I won't have to close the office um like that but
it's only two days relatively calm period for town clerk's office so I think we'll be okay for two days um town clerk is on the hook uh to give to give her quick department overview to the board as well um including some fees
proposals um in conversation with the with the I I I give a director go in and departments to to you know every once look at the fees see if you can see what other towns are offering for fees look at the cost of your services and your businesses and sort of update fees when necessary. So the court did that looked
at at some of the fees that she that you know right now is um is part of her office and then we sought town council's advice as to what falls under her authority might be first. So, we'll go over that report um in the near future. And then um unfortunately, Laura Carter
is taking on a new job. So, she's our public health nurse. She she's actually we get her through an agreement that we have with the town of Conquer, which means the town of Conquer is also out health nurse. Um and M's last day is Friday. Um she's doing wonderful uh and
beyond my expectations doing great. So, um, with all the best and then that means we're re-engaging with Cocker to see if we can get a new. So, we have we don't have an agreement with Mora. We have an agreement with Cocker to have a nurse. So, hopefully we can hire. >> What are the implications
for a position like that? And that's a good question. Um, so, um, for the long time we didn't have a nurse. Um, the the town somehow made it through the pandemic without a nurse. But the pandemic really showed that we do need a
nurse and that she does a lot of special projects although she does have some seasonal efforts like she gives a lot of education to the senior centering and she would supervise let's say a food clinic. Um and she does some some outreach. It's all very good but she
really supplements the the work of the board of health. Um and that's why she's not full time only two days a week. So um is it a critical position? I would say so but it's but it is really important towards our long-term goals of health initiative.
>> So prior to the pandemic we used to contract with Emerson hospital homeare nurses for our nursing needs and they got very uh understaffed and they just wouldn't take us on anymore. So that was kind of one two main.
>> Yeah. Uh so very good. Okay. And then um I'll keep the board informed as we try to build that position. And then um couple other things I really want to highlight. Outstanding work um from the fire department, specifically
firefighter Apple um for hosting the 911 memorial service last week. Really appreciate all the efforts at that particular firefighter that's purs um work still very busy. uh we're plucking this time of year um which you
know can be impactful to water supply of course and then um outstanding work by by DPW in particular Justin Margo for continuing to engage with D. So we had additional funds that were provided the town to complete our lead and copper
inventory. I know that's very much in the weeds and very like jargoning. Um, but it all means we're in the right direction for our water treatment and and infrastructure of the town. And then uh congratulations to the board for hosting its first ever volunteer day. So
uh I was grateful to be able to get a chance to come by steal some ice cream and get out of there. Um but really outstanding work. Uh I really appreciate it. I hope I hope the town does too and I think they do. I think I think we want to do it next year. you know, we can do it again quickly. And then, um, hey, the
tree committee is busy. So, uh, wonderful trees actually made a point to drive around the other day. Great job, um, on the rail trail in and behind, um, subway, but it's not subway anymore.
>> We got the name of that area. Any um, yeah, so any wonderful work. Um, and I know there's been busy down as well. I just didn't have I didn't have the opportunity to put in this this report. Um, and so far any questions of the board, that's my report.
>> Any questions? Craig. >> All right. Chair report. Um, I want to echo um the comment about September 11th memorial. Very uh poignant, quick um tasteful and uh respectful. Um,
you know, and there was a decent sized crowd for uh Friday morning, whatever day of the week it was. I think it was Thursday, Thursday. Thursday morning. Um, but this weekend was really busy with a lot of community activity.
Um, in addition to the um, it just shows all the stuff that's going on, but um, in addition to the farmers market which was crowded because they had their annual apple pie
started the apple pie tasting contest. >> It was so crowded there with the >> amount of people hovering around the pies. >> Wait, there was pie to be had. Yes. >> There was all sorts of >> breakfast pie.
>> All sorts of breakfast pie. >> Was it apple pie or pie? >> It was apple. >> It was apple pie. >> A breakfast apple pie. >> I mean, it was breakfast. >> There was one that looked like a pizza. There was one that I've never seen that like apples that were
>> I don't know how to describe it. Um, very unique type. But then you had your traditional apple pies. I did not. Okay. The line was too long. >> I got I got to seven pies and then I got nachos.
>> Well, that's good. >> But did seven pies. >> No, I think you didn't have to try all of them to judge. You got tickets and you just got to vote. >> Did everybody bring one pie or did you bring a couple pies so you could taste one of them?
>> One piece. I vote one piece in the contest. >> Oh yeah. >> Did he win? >> Who won? I did not win, but I was the um actually here. >> Kayla's name. >> Um she was right across from the school. >> Yeah.
>> Oh, she was the winner. >> Congratulations. >> Natalie Robert was the second place. I think she she lost by like two votes. >> Whoa. I missed it. >> Yeah, that's awful. But all I know is I
went back a bit later to try to retrieve a bit of my pie because I hadn't tried any of it and it everything was gone. >> It was all really candy. >> It's like a beehive of activity and they put it right in the middle of the farmers market
>> and they raised about 450 bucks. >> Oh, good. >> That's good. >> So, Saturday morning I also then went and you talked about the tree committee and tree core that planted their trees. You remember they were here at our last meeting talking about the project over at Koolage and Saturday morning they
were over planting in at Koolage School uh putting in the new tree that they had talked about and then all sorts of other plantings and this group of people you know all volunteers sitting there digging up on a hot Saturday morning
>> um with a leaky uh hose but anyway it was really it was nice to see them. I asked them all about the plants they were putting in. And then there was the stuff a truck I mean stuff the police had over at market basket
that was also schools were involved too. So it wasn't just the police. Uh it was good to see Shock, former president principal who came out of retirement because he's involved with the uh uh with the program that like it's the
Lions Club or something but uh so he was there with superintendent um one of the members of uh school staff and um who else was there? It was person oh je and then a bunch of high school students were all participating and getting
people to participate or whatever. very community oriented and I don't know the number that they collected but it looked like it was really really successful. So congratulations to all that their on their kindness and their good effort. That's it from me. Mike, we'll start
with you. >> Uh thank you. Um yeah, just thank you to the rest of the board and the town for helping out with the the volunteer day. I went to another volunteer event yesterday for furniture Sunday for furniture bank. It's an outfit in Hudson
that my wife volunteers there at. And uh so the two lessons I learned were one, don't synchronize an event with the Pats game and two, choose a sunny day. They had 40 people or something. But anyway,
I just appreciate uh all of you guys and Justin, you Kyle, uh others who who helped out. So, thank you. >> Great job. I I will echo my thanks to to Mike and Lindsay for spearing the event. I think
the turnout's fantastic given the weather and then the circumstances mentioned. So I'm looking forward to a sunnier day next year and we do a repeat. Um I also had the opportunity to attend the conservation commission where they discussed the Rockland AB. I think there was messaging on it this morning.
Um that's it's a very thoughtful group. They understood well. Um Justin and Julia were both there and and um presented sort of an overview of of the uh DP um survey. Uh next up they'll be talking with man youth soccer and and the recreation commission. So obviously
that's a very important to our future water supply and I don't have to this group how important that is right now um and complicated by the fact that it is conservation commission ownership of of those parcels. So uh stay tuned and and we'll see how the results of the next
steps go. But just wanted to um note that the we got a quick conservation commission working with us there. Um and then we are going to have a budget subcommittee coming up and Benzowski is going to present on a draft um building management plan. So very much related to
the chart we just discussed and I think that element folded in there. So I would uh assume that this presentation would then be presented eventually to a quad board format as well. So looking forward to seeing some early discussion on that. That's it for
>> backs. Same on the volunteer event. Thank you specifically. Thank you Kyle Dw for as always being so helpful. Um and thanks to Mike for spearheading. Um I also went to the 911 ceremony. It
was great. And I said to the chief, this might be her worst nightmare, but I said next year I think we should have middle schoolers there. You should invite the school to come down be there for that. Um, that might be a logistical nightmare for her. >> It'll be the 25th anniversary.
>> Oh, is it? >> No, it's Thursday. >> No, it's a Thursday, so be Friday. >> Oh, either. Just a lot. Um, I also happened to bike by while the tree committee was doing all the work they're doing. Um, they spent an entire day really doing a lot of work in the sun
there. Um, both on the bike path and coolage. And then I know DPW helped them um because that was partially through a DCR grant. >> Multiple grants. >> Multiple grants. Yeah. >> Also economic grants that you provided from downtown. >> It's overated.
>> Well, they look great and I'm grateful for them. So, thank you. Um Fly by Night Furniture is open. You haven't been? It's pretty cool. Go on in there. Super cool. Like furniture showroom. It's huge. I don't think I ever realized the paper store was so huge, but it's
enormous. >> Go upstairs. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's And they made like the building looks lovely. Looks great. Um, lastly, if you have not seen it, the Maynard Advantage has a police water and
I highly recommend it. the person who is who is writing it is a I won't divulge but a known town favorite and doing a great job. So I recommend checking that >> the editing >> just editing what's in there but also
adding um some some dry humor that I appreciate in the way the information presented >> and that's it. back. >> Yeah, same same comments as everybody about again the weather. That's you guys control.
>> But um Greg, can you uh let us know for our next meeting maybe an update on 29th April because it certainly doesn't look like that building is secure at all. Uh nothing's changed in the building other than there's been some uh they said at least as of the last time I go by which
was 1:00 today. >> Yeah. >> I haven't seen anything that would suggest that anything promoted security or anything in any other way. Yeah. Except that there's been a, you know, [Music]
the uh the paint band. You know anything about that? like if we found anything out like who was that and what like I I can't sit here and say that it was who some people including myself may have thought of
judgment it was but regardless of who it is or what it is you can't you can't watch in the river no matter who you are it's you know there's no even if you said oh one of my under
you just can't go down to the river and wash your So uh so I don't know either but I my understanding was confirmation commission was going to be considering sort of again I mean like I was in touch with the property owner in that and they
seemed very u I even having it associated with their property. So I uh you know what I I appreciate it is serious. There's no one else there. That's it for me. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. Motion to adjurnn. >> So move. Second. All >> in favor. >> Good to go. >> Hey, will you up there? Hey, Greg. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Greg. >> Good night.
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