Call this meeting to order. All rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Was there any changes to the agenda? Nothing. All right. Can I get a motion to approve the agenda? So move. Second. All in favor say I. I. Oppose.
Motion's carried. Open forum. Anybody would like to speak. All right. And we're on to um consent agenda. Approve of the minutes, bills, purchase orders, approve of the
investments, and then we had um couple donations. Resolution number 2025-36 donation from Sterns Electric Association Trust in amount of $1,000 to the Mars Fire Department. Then there's another resolution number 2025-37,
a donation from Mro's, I'm sorry, Sterns Electric Association Trust, and another thousand would be for the MERO's ambulance department. And then there is a police officer step increase. Can I get a motion to approve? So move. Second. All in favor say I.
I motion carried reports. Chief Mouse, good evening. In July, in our traffic area, we had 21 citations, 55 verbal warnings, and two written warnings. Uh 2025, 269 calls to request for service, and last year's 236. Um so we got an
increase there. Uh last year we ended on 1942 in July, and this year was 1915. So a little bit down overall, but uh increasing month by month the way it looks. uh 10 agency assist, which is low for us, but that's a good good sign to see that uh either everybody's working
in their own backyard and doesn't need our help, or uh maybe things are getting quieter and safer out there. Who knows? Uh a couple things to note, schools starting on September 2nd. There's going to be some uh open houses and those sorts of things happening before that. Uh just keep an eye on the newspaper and or in the social media to find out when that's all happening. Uh I talked with
the superintendent um Dr. Dingman yesterday. Uh they are going to be releasing a video related to the new flow of the school parking lot. Uh they've been working feverishly over there in the last couple days and actually through this next couple days here too as well. If the weather holds out, they'll have significant completion
done by school starting. So um be nice to see. So keep an eye out for some of those things as well. Uh Officer Host is um in training right now and we're looking at midsepptember early October for him to be completed on his own. has been operating his own squad car um with
supervision by our officers and those sorts of things um when he's doing business. So been catching on things quite well. So it's good to see. Uh been working with the city attorney, our new city attorney related to one junk vehicle that's left that we did have a council abatement to u working through
the process as far as setting a court date. Hoping that party either resolves it and or removes it from their property, but they're sluggish at best. Um, as well as talking with them about um, introducing potentially an odd even parking rule for winter. I talked with
Andrew about it and I scribble some stuff out and I want to meet with him and his crew to see how that works or what works best with the crew if something gets implemented for that. But that'll be something that's potentially being worked on with the city attorney. Uh, another area that got brought up is
our golf cart ATV ordinance uh has had no driving on Fifth Avenue Southeast passen plant, those sorts of things. And people are starting to question that and I would agree um is that the why um originally was truck traffic, high volumes, those sorts of things. And now
people are, you know, because it hasn't been operational for quite some time, maybe having that modified in the future. So that might be a discussion item for uh the council as far as modifying that ordinance or removing that from the prohibited roadways. The old genial plant.
Yep. From Main Street down to the funeral home. That section of Fifth Avenue is prohibited from driving on. You can cross. We can drive on. So just an idea. Otherwise, I have nothing else. Say, do you want to just remind people not to pass school buses when their um
lights are on? cuz it seems like every year the last 10 years you're getting one or two of the first week of school it seems like. Huh? Those have been dwindling thankfully. But yes, it is that first week or two that it's always an educational process. So, um hopefully that's going to remedy itself and one bus
company has cameras on their buses now through a grant and that's been beautiful. Anytime that they've had a violation, we can resolve those real fast. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Finance director general fund
second quarter fiscal Jackie. Good evening. Tonight I'll be I will provide a brief overview of the second quarter financial results highlighting re revenues, expenses, and key variances compared to the budget. Okay. Overall, the city's financial position
through June 30th remained stable. Investments performed well, though professional and park parks and recreations miscellaneous operating expenses came in high. The professional services variances due to the additional ABDO contract, which was not included in
the 2025 budget, and miscellaneous parks and revenues expenses are overstated this quarter until an equipment reimbursement is received. Net income is comparable with last year and will improve next quarter as a second installment of property taxes and state
aid are received. This revenue graph includes the first property tax installment received in June along with the interest income. Investment earnings have already surpassed the fullear budget reflecting strong portfolio performance. Some charges for service will only be
recognized at year end so those remain low now. Expenses are mostly on track. The main driver of overbudget spending is professional services. Maintenance is running under budget and some timing differences exist such as building
inspection fees paid in July. Net income is holding steady compared to last year. Looking ahead, quarter 3 results will be higher with inflows of property tax and local government aid. Special revenue funds, mATA, fire and
ambulance and capital project funds are also performing as expected. Not notably ambulance activity is exceeding budgeted levels with net income outperforming the prior year. As we look ahead, we will continue to review expenditures and investments
while monitoring service department revenues and costs. With the tax and aid inflows in quarter 3, fund balances are expected to strengthen further. That concludes the 20 quarter 2 2025 update. Does anyone have any questions?
Thank you so much. Thank you. Community de development director Sheila. So, planning and zoning had a very busy night um at the end of July. They had four public hearings. Their recommendations are coming to you
tonight as action items. There currently are three homes under construction on the north side of Melrose. Two in Highlands and one on the northwest side. The park board met last week and discussed its priorities for 2026, including the construction of the Railroad West Park between Wabagon
Crossings and the Roach development. I've been in contact with Mr. Roach and they do plan to start construction of the 17 buildings, 34 units in the spring of next year. So, it won't be summer or fall. He's going to start right away in the spring um construction of those homes. The Sock River Park isn't
enjoying a successful summer with strong camping numbers, occupancy, and revenue. In the comments and reviews that the park board reviewed the other night, the number one comment that people had was the location of the river and the sounds of the river. And that's the number one comment we have on our little cards that
they fill out. MATA met last week and established its priorities for 2026. A real positive has been the number of developers who are reaching out and wanting to work on projects both housing and commercial. Uh Woods and Irons opened last Friday. Um there was a
article in the Star Post this week about that project and how really it came from um a possible demolition of 400,000 into a you know a successful operating business saving the building. Um Sterns Electric opened this week in
their new headquarters. There is a public open house in October that we want to make sure everybody's invited to to go take a look at their new headquarters. Their old location is right now being um available for lease. So, if anyone is interested in the old site, we also want to thank everyone who
came out tonight to unite. Over a thousand people joined us for the basically souped-up farmers market. Uh met with the fire, ambulance, and police departments, enjoyed the music, and shared dessert together. So want to thank everyone who came out for that.
All right. Thank you. Dave city engineer report. All right. Good evening. Quite a bit of progress on our street project over the last few weeks here. Kind of sat for a little while after that concrete work was done, but they made pretty pretty quick work on the rest of it. So eighth
and fifth are both done and ready to go. So those are happy news to get those people back in. some seating and that kind of thing behind the curb, but otherwise it's pretty much uh taken care of. One thing we did find on pip over by the hospital after we pulled off significantly more pavement than expected. There's about 8
inches of pavement down out there and uh we found out that that was because there's black dirt underneath it. Um so somebody in the past thought it was a good idea to just pay over the top of the black dirt, which is not a good idea as it turns out. Um so we had to remove that. Thankfully, we did have a bid item
in the contract for subgroup excavation. we're going to overrun that quantity, but at the same time, we didn't have to ask for a change or it's thankfully was bid that way. So, all in all, it's going to be about a $30,000 ad to the project, but given where our bids came in, I think okay budget wise, but again, just
to give you guys a heads up that we had to chase a little black dirt, nice looking stuff. Like I said earlier, could have grown a yard on that thing, but not under our street. So, something to keep an eye out for in the future when we're paving in that area in case that was a common practice at the time. But I'm guessing there's nobody around
that had any idea that was downstairs. Otherwise, I've been working with budget items and that's been about it on my end. So, questions for me. Thank you, sir. Thank you. City administrator report Queen. So, obviously, as we had right before
the regular council meeting, we were in a budget workshop. This is the time of year that we are going to be looking at our budgets both on the general fund side as well as the utility side. we have to set the preliminary levy and that is due to the county at the end of
September. So basically obviously council knows this. It's maybe uh for the general audience so they're aware of it. As part of the budgets for the general fund, we look at streets, parks department, police department, administration,
and special revenue funds. We also look at a five-year capital improvement plan on the utility side that covers electric, water, and wastewater. And also we look at rate schedules as well. During that time period, the utility commission will be meeting in September
to look at their first budget. We have a new union that has formed. Um it is compo comp comprised of the street department as well as some admin staff and we will be having our first meeting with that union on August 27th which is
next week. So that is all I have right now. I would say we're about 95% full staff. We still are a little short in a couple areas. Um all of our part- timerrs or summer help are going back to school. So, I think every department's
going to fill that because we the streets and parks were able to have one this summer. Um, electric as well as water, wastewater. So, I think all of those guys will be missed. Um, they enjoyed we did exit interviews with them and they all liked working here and
everything. So, um, comes maybe we'll get them back next year. We'll see. Other than that, the rest of the items that I have will be on the agenda later. All right. Any questions? The admin staff that's part of the union There's uh there are two pe two or three people
in the admin staff that elected to be part of the new union that formed. Yes, you can do that. Right. All right. We're on action items. A preliminary plan for Church of St. Mary's first edition.
Uh the planning and zone zoning commission acting as the board of adjustment and appeals had a public hearing on Monday, July 28th. for the purpose of giving consideration to a preliminary plat for St. Mary's Church. So, I have the picture up on the screen.
They are creating residential lots and also then this gives them the ability to sell the rectory if they so choose. Um there is an outlot created over along Fifth. Their intention is that is going to be a memorial to the old church. um
some kind of the some of the materials still left from the old church that are still there. Some kind of and that they're still deciding what that's going to look like and they've asked for public help for ideas on what that might look like. Because this is a considered a minor subdivision, we can do the
preliminary and the final plat together because they're only creating basically three lots. And so the planning report as adopted by the planning and zoning commission was in your packet. And tonight council to consider the recommendation of the planning and zoning commission to
determine whether to approve or deny the preliminary flat and the final plat pursuant to the minor subdivision process. I do have one quick question like on that top lot where the old church was. Could they someone buy it and you know divide it again if they want to put in town homes or something?
potentially. Um there is also discussion at different meetings at church about putting some covenants on it to control what goes there. There's obviously some things because of um you know what was there and the feelings of people to make sure that it's not used for certain purposes. Um
for example, I don't think they want a commercial purpose like a bed and breakfast or something for the rectory. So there's probably going to be some covenants in place in terms of how it can be used. Okay, that's what Okay. Um, does anybody have any questions?
Can I get a motion to approve that? Second. All in favor say I. I opposed. Motion is carried. There's a permit for uh MJH Properties LLC. Yeah. The Planning and Zoning Commission again held a public hearing on this request from MJH Properties for a
conditional use permit on their parcel. A picture on this one, too. This property is has been used for rental purposes. Um, it includes uh H Heartland Security. It includes a trucking company. Uh, there were a couple of open
spots. I have been working for several months with both a church and a dance studio that were looking for locations. A portion of this building had already been used for the toy condo uh lessons. And so they asked about these other uses,
decided it was best for them to go through the formal process of a conditional use permit since these are technically public institutional uses on a area zoned industrial. You'll see from the planning report as adopted by the commission, they wanted to be very careful. This is not a
reszone. This is still an industrial area. This is a temporary use allowing them um to use it for this purpose. It is temporary in terms of one year to be reviewed internally by staff. He does not have to go through the conditional
use process again if they choose to continue using it and we don't have any problems. The planning and zoning commission discussed at length parking and all the things really the times when these uses are being held are when the metal works and the electric bills are
not in use. It's when the traffic is down. One of the reasons the church that is wants to use this property is interested in it is a lot of their congregation live in the town homes and live in the apartments. So for them it makes it feel like a neighborhood church. And it really is off time in
terms of everything else over on ETH. And so the council to consider tonight the recommendation of the planning and zoning commission and determine whether to approve or deny the conditional use permit for MJH property on their parcel. Any questions?
Motion to approve. So move. Second. All in favor say I. I post. Motion carried. Another cup for the city of Nor this time. Yes. Um as we had to do when we built the bathroom and the flood plane. Whenever the city wants to do something,
we want to make sure we follow the same laws we have in place for everyone else. So as you'll recall, we've had two different billboard companies come recently asking for billboards on the east and the west side. This is for the potential of an electronic billboard in our Wellhead area. Um, we have not
reached a contract with a billboard company. We haven't determined the exact location yet, but this would be the conditional use permit allowing the city to look at that site for an electronic board. Right. Is there any questions? I thought we did this already. Not for this. We said we'd look at going
forward with it and now we're at that point where we're getting closer. Yep. But not done yet. So, any questions? I got a motion to approve. So, move. Second. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carried.
Uh flat flatbed trailer. So, the council um staff has obtained quotes for flatbed trailer. The low bid was from Midsota trailer sales and services in the amount of 13,250.
The cost will be shared 6040 with the streets and parks department. 60% coming from utility, 40% from the general fund. The council to give consideration concurring with the MRO public utilities commission approving the purchase with a 6040 cost share.
Motion to approve. There's a second. All in favor say I. Opposed. Motion carried. Resolution number 2025-38, gambling gambling resolution for the Me Area Chamber of Commerce. Uh, anybody want to talk on that one or
Basically, there's a um the chamber's requesting that um they receive a gambling license to conduct big goal and hold a raffle on November 7th at the um Legion in Melrose. Just curious, isn't this normally part of the consent agenda?
Yes, but I chief has to abain. I have to abain from all the consent agenda. Oh, I got you. Yeah, there. Good. So, that's why we wanted to make this separate. Yep. Yes. So, all right. Can I get a motion to So, move second. All
fair say I motion's car. Uh, Charter Spectrum franchise agreement. So, I met with Charter Spectrum Communications to discuss entering into a new franchise agreement. The initial renewal would be for a period of 10 years and automatically extend for an additional term of five years unless
either party notifies the other in writing of its desire to not exercise this automatic extension at least three years before the expiration of the franchise. The franchise fee is equal to 5% of whatever their gross revenue is. We receive
approximately $18,000 per year in fees from Charter Spectrum. So, we have the same exact franchise agreement with Arvig. We have it with the electric department. So, how does that work? As they go over the top and they're not truly a channel for like a video franchise,
they just um it's it's all they're offering. So, it's whatever they have in their So, like Google TV or they don't have to pay a franchise fee, but the local guys do. Yep. It's whatever. Yeah. So you're talking streaming
services. Streaming. Well, no. So they're paying because their infrastructure that's in our infrastructure infrastruct. I was like I was confused in the right ways. They're paying for infrastructure. They're paying for the infrastructure. Yep. And same with that's exactly what everyone does. So
yeah. Can I get a motion to approve? Second. Okay. I'm fair say I opposed. Motion carried. Uh community festival license Hispanic ministry of St. Mary's Church. Um, was there any questions or concerns on that? September 5th.
Can I get a motion to approve? So move. Second. All in favor say I. I. Motion carried. Uh, ambulance department equipment purchase. So, uh, the ambulance department would like to request a purchase of a vet
machine to carry in their rig. Uh, coordinator Edgar obtained two co quotes, one from Zel and one from Hamilton. She is re recommending that the Hamilton medical event be purchased at a cost of $20,1159. The funds to purchase the equip
equipment would come from the EMS grant from the state of Minnesota that they received at the beginning of this year. So she had allocated a whole bunch of different equipment, but it's just like anything you know with our purchasing has to come back before you guys. And that is what she is requesting for the
ambulance. Great. Can I get a motion to approve? So move. Second. All in favor say I. I oppose. Motion's carried. I'm glad to see that old business. Um resolution number 2025-32,
resolution establishing a fire escrow account. All right, we are bringing this one back. Um we tabled it two months ago. This was the discussion on the fire escrow fund. Uh the same materials were in your packet along with a staff memo that I had put together um from all the
different cities that I had called and talked to and reached out to about their different fire funds. I don't know if it alleviates the questions or concerns that you had. Um for the most part it seems to be working for them, the ones that have had to use it.
There seems to be a difference in some of the cities in terms of when they return the money and it seems like we have some latitude in terms of what is our threshold. So the one city returns it as soon as there's a building permit in place or they have some skin in the game or a demolition permit has been
applied to and things have been started. Another city holds it until the project is complete and there's a certificate of occupancy. Um, I it sounds like we've got some latitude there in terms of how we would want to implement it if we had the escrow fund, but I know you wanted additional
information on other cities who use it and how they use it. Discussion because I know that we are all looking at it a lot of different ways. So, who wants to start first? I would have liked to hear the people that actually were affected by it, the people
that had the disaster, had the loss, to see how big of an impact it was for them. Was it a burden for them? I mean, if it wasn't a burden at all, then a lot of my concerns kind of melt away. But if it was a burden from them and it did put restrictions on them, well, then I'm I'm
way more reserved to vote against it. And the other option the one city did was if if the owner came to them and it became a burden because they had people to pay. They released the funds but they made them co-ayable to both the
homeowner and the contractor so that they could use it to pay their bills but the fun the money was then directed to to its purpose the contractor which would make a difference because I feel like the whole point of it is to make sure the work gets done instead of
having the to abandon, but if you need the money to fix it up, then and it's tied up in a program. I I can appreciate the
the angle and the the logic behind it, but it feels a little bit nanny state. It's we're somebody's getting insurance for the house that caught a fire and now we're saying sorry you can't you can't have that money. We're taking 25% of it
just in case you don't you're not a responsible individual and you don't do something with that house in in our time frame. Um there's been a handful of structures that were not taking care of in a timely manner. generally we kind of you know is
that a part of a burden of the city? Maybe that should be part of our burden as a as a community if somebody's not responsible. I don't know that we need to punish everybody because one kid screwed up in class like when we were in grade
school, one kid screws up, now nobody gets to go to recess type of thing. I don't I don't really like it. It's it feels a little bit socialist in a way. um like micromanaging everybody and their
and their of their affairs. So I I I couldn't be in support of it myself. I just can I It doesn't feel right. You know, I I I really do agree with you. I have one question. Um so for
example, the fire that we have over by the school, do we know do they still have insurance on their house and property? Um, the reason why I ask is you have a school right next door. Um, you know how kids are, they're curious and we'd be worried about about
anybody's home, but you know, especially being a school, you know, what happens if one of those kids over by that school wander over and fall in and get hurt? Who's responsible for it? Um, and I know, well, you know that and some of us know, you know, in something like that all of a sudden that we get some real
hot days. Um, is there any worry about any hazardous We know with with some of this debris, is it um getting into the school? Could it? I mean, these are things that I'm I'm a little worried about where that's the only part of this I sort of
understand, but I'm a little concerned that, you know, some people don't care. They leave it go. I've seen a couple places where they're burnt for a couple years. I know. What is it driving out towards Benson? and there's a house at or
wherever. It's been like that for four years now, half burnt. And where do we draw a line? But taking the money and keep, you know, I don't like that either. But we have to find some way to move along. Let's go.
What's the Okay, so in if the scenario, if we did it, what's the, you know, what does it look like? Is it three months we hold on to it and if they haven't done anything, we take that 25%, we do something with it. Or is it six months or is it a year? or if you don't get any response in six months, you
go wrap the house in some type of protection so it can't cause issues because you know what's going to happen. We're going to find a way to spend the money. They can't spend the money. You can if they're not doing something with it. That's the way this that's what this whole policy is all about.
But it would be for that property. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Pick stuff away to Yeah. to take care of it. You know, sort of like we had that arson house where that person lit their house up. There was nothing we could do. The city ate that that time and we burnt the house the rest of the way down.
Right. So, I mean, yeah, this I I agree with you 100%. But just these two case scenarios are what bothers me, too. I think something is going to happen with that one. Well, and I think that I would be in support of it is if there's a Hard Rock plan and says, "Okay, well, I'm going to
go get bids tomorrow and blah blah blah and we're spending money next week." I think there's ways we can Is there a way we can do it then? Yeah, you can set up the time frame that that's kind of the scenario we got from the different cities. The one city the moment they applied for a building permit or a demo permit, they got their
money back. That was just a sign that they were doing something, right? A different city held it all the way until a certificate of occupancy. That seems to me to be a very very long time, right? Yeah. I mean, the first thing I would be in favor of. Yeah. But the other one I am not, you know, like if we keep it till I am not in
favor of that at all. So, I guess that's where I'm asking. I guess now you two have your I would agree that we would um go forward with something, but do it in that in that time frame of Okay, now we've got the contracts in place.
They're signed. They're ready to go. We can release. Travis, I feel like it's I I like the idea of a demo permit or pull the permit. I don't know what happens if they pay for the permit and then don't continue the work. I mean, if
that's a scenario, but and you can probably put that in there in conjunction permit pulled and it's happening. You know, um that's the shorter amount of time, I guess, is what I would pick, but I'm not sure how you police it from there. I don't know.
Is this the only remedy we have to get it fixed? Are we have no other? I mean, if we went to the city attorney, are there other ways to push it other than taking their private insurance money they're paying the premiums on? Well, according to um the fire chief, this was the best protection for us as a
city. I'm That's fine. As a city, as a city council member, I'm elected for the people, right? That's that's your guys' job as a city to look out for the business. My job as a council member is to look out for the constituents of Melrose, right? So, I want to do what's
best for them, not necessarily. I want to do what's best for both, obviously. Right. That and that's what I meant. And the thing is, if we get attorneys involved, then we're spending our own money just for this and then they're going to and we know like with what Craig has to do every spring, some people push it as
long as they can until the day of court, then they finally pay it. And then we waste all the attorney fees up to that point. And if they would have just did it right away, it would have saved all of us a lot of time and money. I mean, I'm in favor of it doing it this.
I'm not in favor of long term, right? I don't know. Is that anywhere of a compromise for you two? Can you please re restate our compromise? I didn't quite So, basically, if they come in, let's say they have a fire and they say, "All
right, here is u insurance said this and this. Um, I'm going to demo the house and it'll be demoed within 3 weeks or um I'm going to get permits and it's going to start within two months. I I'm I'm
good with releasing funds as long as it is actual, you know, okay, contractor said it's moving along. We're going to be there on the 15th to do demolition or we're gonna start remodeling. I'm as long as it's as much of a guarantee as we can get out of the deal
that the permits have been pulled by a contractor, then we release the money because there's a contractor on the hook. Yeah. Who've been hired to do the work. Yes. And what's the deadline on this? After the fire, we we need to determine all this.
Yeah, you can determine how long do they have. It should have something in there. You know, obviously a deadline, but not every fire is the same either, right? So, some fires are I mean, that was a bad fire. So, Ellis is tough
shape. There's a lot of stuff a lot of stuff to get through, right? How long does it take for investigation? Is it a 60-day, 90day? No, I don't think it's that long. But um but the the just the condition of the house I mean to get through it to get
all your stuff out of it to dig through that is that could take a long time right. So yeah or if there was an investigation for arson well and if it's under investigation nobody's getting no money anyways because that's that's stopped.
Yeah. The insurance hasn't insurance ain't going to pay on that one anyway. Yeah. Right. So I think if we can we can work through this. I'm willing to go this far and um what was the what was the time frame? Is it six
months? We as a city you can establish whatever policy. All this is is a resolution opting into the program. Yeah. And then it's for us to determine from there the conditions and the percentage and Okay. Could we do I mean worst case scenario in my mind it's demoing return that lot
to a flat lot open lot getting rid of the the house on it. Right. That's the that's the goal. So could you set it up in a manner of I mean if if it passes in a manner of what's it going to cost because that should be able to be an
estimated cost of demoing whatever property that burns pretty quickly you should be able to get an estimate of what does it cost tear down because single family residences there's no abatement requirements as long as a single family residence you get to a quad plex I think four if it's a forplex
I think now you got to get into abatements and all then it gets expensive but single residences, you should be able to get a pretty quick estimate and then base your retainage on the demo of that building, right? Not just say 25%. Because there's going to
be some $400,000 houses, that's $100,000. You don't need $100,000 to retain to demo that building. Depends if it's an old house and they have a specus in it. Doesn't that doesn't apply single family residences, state statute doesn't apply.
I I think statutoily though it's 25%. Well, I thought it was anything up to 25%. Or anyway, so any just something I in my mind if we could put a condition on there say we're estimating it cost worst case scenario we demo. So we but we do that after right
we would do that after we're just accepting this 20% of settlement or judgment is withheld 25%. That's what the statute says. Well the thing is is 25%. So what if we keep that? I mean, you're not going to need 75% upfront right away.
They're going to take the payment out to you and the mortgage holder or the lean holder, right? The lean holder is going to take their share first. They're going to take their share. But if you start applying for your permits, I mean, you you have like our projects, you got steps like when you get a quarter through, you got to pay this
amount. You know, you have your last 25% won't be until you're almost done. But we can release it sooner. I'm just saying it would give us at least a little bit of time. Might be, you know, got a 90% mortgage left to pay. Okay. Now they're left with 10% of their value
in their insurance policy. They don't have a house to live in. Now they got to go find a place to rent. Just saying. It would have to be very li if we adopt into this. This today. What's that? I was just asking if it has to be
adopted today. Oh, it doesn't. No, we could we can table again. We can table it again. How many more times do we want to table it? Well, until everything's clear is what I was thinking. But yeah, if we elect into it and then we have to decide on the terms, what happens if we can't decide on the terms? Do we opt
back out of it? So, the terms really should be decided before we go into it so we know what we're agreeing to. Like, if you can't do anything other than 25% or if there's any other I don't know enough about it right now.
and the detail of what we are allowed to do or not do once we're if we opt in and we can't change something. We think we can. If you opt in, it said you had the opportunity, but you had to put it in writing. Was it 90 days or something like that? You had to get out of it. So
once you're in it, you're in it for like a year for sure. This initially was brought to the table because we had some issues in tone, right? That was Yeah. What happened was after this last fire, the state fire marshall approached um fire chief poody about are you a
member of this program? You should really consider being a member of this program. And so this was suggested by fire chief I think there's a lot of good pieces to it. I just don't know. I mean there are some concerning points with tying up someone's insurance money
if but I know the concept is to remedy the you know the problem with it. And that one city did narrow it. So if it's just a detached garage, they don't implement the program. Only if it's a primary structure.
Well, we're on month. Can we add this to our um work our discussion next month to finalize that part? What do we all need to make a decision here? Because I really, this was given to us last month and we
wanted more information, but if there's any more questions, I would like everybody to please ask these questions so we don't have to table it again. I want to see in writing what the terms actually are before agreeing to it. So, what we could do if you would like is we could have um our city attorney draft up
what it would look like if that would make you guys more comfortable based on the concerns that you have expressed here and everything, we can have our city attorney draft it. We could draft a pretty simple memo of understanding that if internally as a city, these are the criteria we're going
to use. This is how fast we're going to return it and this is our on what conditions we're going to give it back to you. And we'll have the attorney look at it. So we make sure that we are meeting the statute. If the terms are liberal, it would be clear to the community then. Yep. If the terms are as liberal as Europe,
then I would vote for it if they're citizen friendly. Yeah. And and I agree with you on that, too. I don't want it to be stringent, but I just want something to happen. I'm just, like I said, I'm just using that as a case. You know, if some little kid
goes over there, by the way, do they have insurance on the property right now? I And then if one of those kids goes and plays in the who's responsible. I mean it's no different than a storm though. I mean it's a natural disaster. I mean there's so many I get where you're coming from. But I
think that'd be a good compromise though if we make it easy for the citizen and have the city have a little bit of protection. I can get on board. Yeah. We could put together anou as Sheila said and then we could just have our attorney look at it to make sure it meets the Minnesota statute.
Yeah. Then so whoever is the staff person, whoever is the fire chief, whoever is the police chief, everybody knows that this is what we established as a comp. So it doesn't vary with the personnel. Correct. Okay. Okay. All right. So then we will table that.
We are done with old business. There is no new business. So then we're onformational items, utility commission meeting minutes, schools and conferences. Unless there's any other questions. And again a motion to adjurnn. So move second. All in favor say I. I.
Opposed. Motion carried. Meeting is adjourned.