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Hey, hey, hey. I'm feel a Yeah, down. Hey. Hey. Hey. Please take your seats. The meeting is about to begin. Remember to speak into

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the microphone [music] as this meeting is being recorded for public record. Please stand by. We are going on air in 5 4 3 2 1. >> Good morning everybody. Welcome to the

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July 9th DRB meeting. >> We start with the attendance. >> All righty. Good morning everybody. Um I'm going to do a roll call. Uh Mr. Meshber here. Miss Pagawali >> here. >> Mr. Assion >> here. >> Mr. Lester >> here.

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>> Miss Leuen >> here. >> Miss Mitch is absent. Mr. Pis >> here. >> We have uh six of seven members present. We do have a quorum. >> All right. Are there any updates from the city? >> Uh no updates from the city attorney.

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Good morning. Today's meeting of the design review board is being conducted in a hybrid format with a quorum of the board physically present in the commission chambers at Miami Beach City Hall and applicant staff members of the public appearing either in person or virtually via Zoom. Those wishing to participate via Zoom may dial the

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toll-free number which is 888-4754499 and enter the webinar ID which is 82273941924 pound or log into the Zoom app and enter the webinar ID which again is 82273941924. Individuals wishing to speak must click the raise hand icon if using Zoom or

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dial star 9 if participating by phone. Before I swear on those who are testifying, I'm going to read into the record the city's notice regarding lobbyist registration. If you are appearing on behalf of a business, a corporation, or another person, including as an architect, attorney, or representative of an applicant, or an objector, you need to register as a

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lobbyist with the city clerk's office before addressing the board. You do not have to register if you are speaking only on behalf of yourself, you are testifying as an expert witness providing only scientific, technical, or other specialized information, or you are appearing as a representative of a

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neighborhood association without compensation to express support for or opposition to an item. Expert witnesses and representatives of neighborhood associations shall, prior to appearing, disclose in writing to the city clerk their name, address, and the principal on whose behalf they are communicating. These rules apply whether you are

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appearing in favor of or against an item or encouraging or arguing against its passage, defeat, modification, or continuence. I will now swear on everyone who is physically present in chambers and intends to testify. Virtual speakers will be sworn in one by one before addressing the board. If you'll be testifying, please raise your right

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hand. >> Do you swear that the testimony you will be giving is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. Okay, let's approve the minutes from the last meeting. >> Okay, do we have a motion or in a second?

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>> Make a motion to approve the minutes. >> Motion by Mutagaboli. >> I'll second. >> Mr. Chair. >> Um, Mr. Mr. Chair, >> uh given that this is a hybrid format meeting, I'd like to show for the record

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that I was on Zoom last time even though I was not present physically. For Zoom, I was >> we we can add a note um that you were present via Zoom, but just for the purposes of of the meeting, you have to be be in person. Okay, we'll add a note.

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So, >> so with that friendly amendment, I ask the co-sponsors to accept the friendly amendment. >> Is the sponsor and chair okay? I mean in a second. Okay.

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>> Okay. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I Any opposed? Okay. Motion passes. Um Okay. Okay. Do we have any other business? >> We um we do have one quick discussion.

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Um the September meeting um we've been informed that we will have to um move the date of the September meeting. So it would be good if we decide what date to move it to in case any items have to be continued. Um one I sent out some dates yesterday that the chambers are

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available September 2nd, 4th, and 11th. Um I did say 7th, but that is uh Labor Day, so that date will actually not be available. So if there's a preference on the board for September 2nd, 4th or 11th for scheduling the September meeting.

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>> Fourth, >> fourth is okay for for me. Yeah. Any of those dates? >> September 4th. >> Fourth. Good for everybody. >> Okay. Um so if everybody's okay, we that'll be Friday, September 4th. that

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it's changing if you're absent as >> we have uh in said that since it's not a regularly scheduled meeting um it doesn't count as part of the allowed absences um so I think you're allowed two absences a year if that's not a

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regularly scheduled meeting um we we don't penalize you >> that might be the case with me I may not be okay >> that that week >> okay >> uh and I already have two absences so I don't you know I was really planning on it to be the following >> the following Thursday. Yeah, understood.

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>> Why I chose that week? So, >> please speak into the microphone. >> Oh, could you please turn >> at this point? I may have to, you know, >> be absent that week. >> 11th. >> Well, they don't know. It's It's up to you guys. I

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don't want to, you know, nobody said the 11th, you know. If it's the option, >> I know the the option was the 11th, but everybody said for the fourth, so I just asked with regards to the fourth. >> I can do the 11th. >> Okay. Well, I could do the 11th for

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sure. >> Fine with me. >> Okay. >> 11th is okay, Mr. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, Mr. Lester, it's the beginning of the Russa, so I think that's okay. >> Yeah, it's it uh starts at sundown as would be when no work is allowed. >> Yeah, I think that worked okay, too.

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>> Okay. Okay. Sep >> September 11th. >> Thank you. >> Um, so if any items are continued to the September meeting, they will be continued to September 11th. >> Okay. Thank you very much. And we can proceed to the new applications if you like.

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>> Okay, let's begin. [snorts] Or the sorry the continued applications. >> Okay, so the first one would be DRB 24 1061. That's 1414 Alton Road. If you can This application has been filed for the construction of a new two-story

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financial institution with drive-thru lanes, including variances to eliminate the requirement for a designated loading space and increasing the >> I apologize. We had two items that are under request for continuance. If if we can uh vote on those first, >> I apologize. Ocean and Byron.

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>> Yes. Um just real quick motion um they would like the that's DRB 251146. They would like for the continuence to the October 8th 2026 meeting. Um they're making some revisions to the plans and

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um and have the applicant has requested that continuence. If anybody has any questions or motion to continue >> any public comment on on the item uh on Zoom or otherwise. >> Um can I be added as a presenter on

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Zoom? Why didn't >> our panelists take one of everything? >> No. Hands are raised on Zoom. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. Motion by Mr. Lester, second by Mr. P. Uh, all those in favor?

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>> I >> I. >> Any opposed? No. Motion passes. >> Okay. The next one is um 7928 Byron Avenue. Um that's an application that was before the board last month. Uh the

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board requested some changes and some continue and uh that the item be continued to this meeting. Um the applicant uh has since um changed the architect so they need some additional time to make modifications. So they've requested a continuence to the September meeting and so that would be the

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September 11th meeting. >> Make a motion to defer to September meeting the 7928 Byron Avenue. >> Okay. We have a motion to continue to September 11th by Miss Pagawoli. Oh, sorry. Uh, any public comment on this item?

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Um, I don't see any hands raised. >> Second. >> Okay. Motion by Miss Bhutakavoli, second by Mr. Pis. All those in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? No. Motion passes. >> Okay. Now we can now we [clears throat] can proceed to the continued items.

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>> Okay. This file DRB 24 10614144 Alton Road. This application has been filed for the construction of a new story financial institution with drive-through lanes including variances to eliminate the requirement for designated loading space and increase the allowable size for detached sign including one or more

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waiverss to replace an existing single story financial institution with drive-through lanes. >> Okay. So, um, just one clarification, the title indicated that this was a two-story financial institution that was being proposed. It's actually since been scaled down. It's a one-story financial

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institution. Um, the, um, this this application is in on [clears throat] Alton Road. It's in the CD2 medium-intensity commercial district. It's a 30,000t lot. Uh, the applicant is proposing a building um with a with a small footprint uh, 0.17 F. That's it's

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a 4,955t building. Um the applicant could build a 60,000 foot building um on this site. So they're building a small uh a small building. Um it has a height of 22 ft. The um the applicant is requesting um a

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couple of waiverss and two variances. And so I'll describe what those are about. Um the for initially the bank is proposing to replace the existing Bank of America that's on the site. It was [snorts] built in 1974. Um it's not the most attractive building that's currently there. It has five

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drive-through lanes that that uh exit out onto Alton Road. So, it creates a very unsafe situation if you're a pedestrian there with these five lanes of traffic. Um the the sidewalk there is tilted, so it's not a very comfortable uh situation if you're a pedestrian. Um so, the applicant is proposing

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significant improvements to the site. They will be eliminating all driveways onto Alton Road. So, there will be a continuous uh sidewalk along Alton Road. Um they will be proposing to keep the existing office building of the bank while this new building is under

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construction. So the new building will be built on the south portion of the lot. Um the new building will have windows fronting Alton Road. So it'll be far more aesthetically pleasing. It'll have a brick white brick facade um which is a a high quality material that they're they're going to be proposing

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along the facade. And then additionally, they're going to be proposing a mural along the along Alton Road and along the side of their facade that faces their surface parking lot. Um the mural exceeds 100 square ft. So it will require city commission approval um

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prior to them being able to actually paint the mural. Um the mural is being design was designed by artist Kennedy in in Gaga. Um, and it will consist of colorful geometric shapes and it and it it does provide a significant enhancement for that facade and staff is

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supportive of that mural. Um, the surface parking lot will also have two drive-thru ATM lanes. Um, they're going to be entered from the rear of the lot in the alley along Alton Court. Um, and so then they will exit back onto Alton Court. So there's there's minimal uh so

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there's no impact to Alton Road itself. pedestrians will have a clear way to walk down Alton Road. Um the applicant is requesting a waiver of the frontage standards for um for the uh the landscaping of the clear pedestrian

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path. The site is an interior lot. Um the code requires that they raise their sidewalk to the future crown of road elevation. Because it is an interior lot, they have to have ramping down to the adjacent lots that are far lower. Um, so that creates a situation where

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the sidewalks um have to ramp up significantly and so they're that impacts where they can locate the landscaping. The code requires that the landscaping be located between the parallel parking and the sidewalk. Uh they're having to move some of the trees behind the sidewalk um in order to allow

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for that ramping to take place. Staff is not opposed to the to the waiver being granted because it it really there's there's no other option for them given that they have to raise the sidewalk and they have to ramp down. Um, additionally, the applicant is requesting two variances. The first variance is for the off- streetet

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loading requirement. Um, the code requires that they have one loading space. Um, the applicant um has indicated that they have very little loading that is required for a bank. um the loading that is needed can happen in their standard parking spaces or

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alternatively they can if they're if on the rare situation that they need a larger truck than than what can use a standard parking space they can accommodate the loading on Alton Court in the in the alley. Um so they don't really have a need to provide a formal loading area that would limit their

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their allowable their parking um their surface parking. Um they currently are providing more surface parking than is required by the code. Um so really get taking some of that away to provide a loading space really doesn't benefit the project and it does present a practical difficulty to the applicant and a

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hardship to the applicant. So staff is supportive of the granting of the variance. The other variance is related to signage. Um in order to screen their parking they have a an architectural screen along Alton Road. So that blocks views into the surface parking lot creating an

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improved um urban condition. And also that screen has uh landscaping in front of it to really beautify the walk. So as a pedestrian, you're going to be looking at something that's much nicer than the five driveway lanes and a and a and a in a in a building that basically has no

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windows. So it's going to improve the the aesthetic condition for them. The applicant has requested a variance to pro to provide a sign on that architectural screen. Um, the code limits the sign to 15 square feet if it's a detached sign on a on a on a

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wall. Um, the applicant has requested a variance to allow for the sign to be 18.3 ft. Um, so it's essentially just over 3 ft. The variance that they're requesting, it's a minimal variance, but it does make for a sign that that that fits um that um that architectural

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screen much better. really doesn't increase the visual clutter um and provides improved visibility given that this is a hight traffic roadway. Um so staff is supportive of the granting of the variance. So with that staff recommends that the application be approved including the two variances and

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the waiver >> as always Mr. Madan has stolen our thunder with this wonderful uh distillation of the project and of course we're going to spend 10 minutes talking about the exact same stuff. Uh good morning Graeme Pen Burke Howard Fernandez Lark and Tapinis 200 South

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Biscane Boulevard. I did want to compliment Mr. Madan on his knowledge of the rules of Jewish holidays as well. That was a very >> I'm a quarter jub. [laughter] >> Uh as Reelio explained, uh I'm I'm joined to my left by Mr. Christopher Cox from Gendler. We also have Richard

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Hernandez, our AR our engineer, Carlos Marovich from my office. I'm going to take you through the intros quickly, turn it over to Chris, and then we'll open ourselves up for any questions. As Reelio explained, this project uh will bring significant improvements to this

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site from an operational point of view, from an aesthetic point of view, and most importantly, from a relationship with the public sphere point of view. This will be the most significant pedestrian improvement we could possibly imagine uh on this property, which is removing any vehicular access. So, if we

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can put the slides up, I'll take you through the intro. What you can also see, of course, is the beautiful mural that we're proposing, which will be a mosaic, which will be again bringing public art right to the to the uh pedestrian realm on Alton Road. So, just

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a brief intro where we are. There's the existing Bank of America branch. It's no stranger to anyone. It's right across the street from the CVS on 14. Uh and and you can see right here from this aerial again the the the the drive-thrus

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that are pointing like a cannon directly on Alton Road. We are zone CD2. Uh and just a couple more uh uh views looking at the singlestory property. Building was built in 1974. Uh and it uh we also the bank also owns

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the satellite parking lot to the west of the alley and that will continue to be used as parking for the property. So you can see again the orientation of the building. We have the the the existing bank on the north and then that gigantic wide which is wider as wider or wider

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than the building the drive-thru uh assemblage there which is very 1970s. Just a couple more views. And as Raelio reminded us there are no windows of the bank facing Alton Road right now. Uh again a product of its time.

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This is just another highlight of the the drive-thru area and what that means from an aesthetic and a pedestrian point of view. That is 50 ft wide of a of a curb cut to accommodate those uh drive-throughs.

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So, with that, let me turn it over to Chris to take you through the design. Uh, you know what? Let me Where are >> While Chris is talking, I'm going to hand out our materials. We have the aforementioned brick which will be the surfacing along Alton and of course the

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paint colors so that we can see. >> Good morning everybody. So I think we'll we'll try to give visual to a lot of things Mr. Madan has clearly lined out uh verbally. Um what what you're seeing here is the existing site plan. So as we've seen in the in the aerials to the south we've got a

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very large multi-story four or five story building. We've got the drive-thru banking and then we've got the existing building, the small uh one-story to the north of the property. Alton Roads uh on uh on the left or the right of the page on the east side and then Alton Court is

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on the the west side. An important part of this project particularly for the owner uh as a requirement was to keep this branch open during construction. So we want to be clearly representing phasing throughout the construction process. So you've got a couple colors here. In blue is phase

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one. So if you can imagine phase one, we're going to propose the removal of the drive-thru. That's both paving and the connected canopy. That would allow the phase one new construction of our new building in the in the blue. Again,

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um that would allow the owner to, you know, start phasing over from the yellow existing building to the new blue building. Phase two is the streetscape along Alton Road. So there we're going to be raising, you know, we we know that the the resilience code of Miami is to raise the sidewalks and the future

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raising of the crown of the road. So phase two brings the demolition of the existing streetscape, the installation of the new and then finally in phase three is the removal of the existing bank and then the adding of the remaining parking and drive-through ATMs.

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So this was a strategy that took a lot of time to get to both on civil and architecture to make sure that that you know they could operate and maintain their customer base throughout uh the construction phase. Here is a graphic of the the the site plan. So if if we can imagine I'll kind of point out a couple of the key

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elements. Uh the building in white is at the bottom of the page. So south we are facing Alton Road. So we're bringing presence to to Alton Road. Uh we we will be seeing some more on the art, but um the first thing the most important thing is bringing that art and that vibrancy. I think it's our the thing we're most

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excited about to the project. That's on the corner of our building facing Alton Road, but also facing surface parking. Um you know, the streetscape along Alton is also very important. It was a it was a tricky piece to manage. We were connecting to the south to a low

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sidewalk elevation existing. We were connecting to the north to a low sidewalk elevation. So, the site itself is ramping to kind of where the art is, right? Like to the highest point. Um, we've got a series of ramps that are going to need to bring pedestrians from

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the crosswalk up to our site. Um, but yeah, and then last, I think importantly, we are screening the drive-thru and the parking with architectural walls and a layered landscape approach. Um, Mr. Madan pointed out that there are also difficulties just weaving landscape

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through here. Um, if you can imagine on the south, you see how we're connecting to our neighboring sidewalk closest to Alton Road, but we're bringing it further west to meet the the landscape buffer pedestrian pathway requirements and then shifting back again to

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reconnect to our neighbors to the north. So, it is a stitching of both the fabric that we're in, but also meeting uh, you know, to the best of our abilities the resilience code and goals of um, Miami Beach. Chris, before we leave this drawing, I just I wanted to remind us we

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are doubling the amount of parking on the property uh with this plan versus what the status quo is. >> Yeah, I'll try to start pointing it out with my finger. I know it's kind of verbally describing. So, here's our main facade. Again, this is looking from Alton Road to it. Um

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here we're displaying on full display art, right? We've we're we're thinking about it as a strategy both for day and night where we're lighting the art from above linearly. Um, we've got a glass box on this facade that is the entrance. Um, we are our intention is to light it

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24 hours so at night that that art is seen weaving from the exterior facade into the building and and creating just a vibrancy for this corner. Um, I think you're also seeing a number of the elements that we were talking about on the site which is uh ramping as to the

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best of uh an ADA compliant slope to this point. Um, you're also seeing our which is our ramp kind of getting up to uh the the bank's main entry and then a a secondary ramp. This is a section outlining some of

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those elevations and strategies where Alton Road is currently very low. Um being cognizant of the 5.8 future crown on the road goals of Miami Beach and then getting our um building up to design flood elevation um compliant with

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the resilience code. So, a little bit about the artists. Um Kennedy and Gango was is a is an artist from Africa. He had a tragic accident and um found his footing largely in Miami. So, I think the story was important for the bank to have someone

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local. Um the art is geometric. It's colorful. Um, we think it adds a lot to the vibrancy of the district and the goals of the district and the realization of this art will be in small form tile mosaic. So, I think that's also appropriate for the the history of

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mosaics in in Miami and um will be a really beautiful ad to the to the streetscape. This is a graphic representing where we intend to apply it. So, the the images in blue are representing another example of a tile mosaic. It's not in fact color

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representation, but you're seeing small small format tile mosaics at a at a zoomed in scale. You're seeing the larger here. And then in in the in the plan graphic in red, you're seeing the outline of where we're intending to do it. So Alton Road is where my hand is

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turning into the building and then turning out to the building. The interior of the project is um it, you know, it's representing modern banking. the the removal of drive-thru teller service is no longer part of their business. Um we have, as you've

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seen in the site plan, drive-through ATMs. The the plan is very open and facing Alton Road with the glass box that we talked about in the artwork. You kind of enter under the artwork and get into the their main lobby. Tellers will be at the back and then um you can meet

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your private banking um or you know consultants kind of in a series of offices. pretty simple interior plan. Uh we'll get into some of the detailed elevations. So this is a full view of Alton Road looking towards the property. This is a good representation of us

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connecting to our neighbors at the low points bringing ourel up to a compliant um slope and then getting up to uh the building itself and then the glass box representing that's the main entry here.

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Materiality. So here is again Alton Road elevation. You're seeing premium materials facing Alton Road. So from left to right we're we're we're brick is this hatch that you're seeing. I think um Graham's kind of placed that on on your on your um table. Um but we are

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taking that brick, turning it 20 ft around the corner to the hidden facade. We're wrapping it around the corner to the the the bank surface parking lot. And then we have our tile mosaic and um curtain wall product which will be in and the main facade. It's represented a bit opaque. You can imagine that is

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going to be glass and our intent is to keep that open and transparent and light it from behind to get to get visual view into into the the property or into the the building and the art. This is um from the north. So this is from the from the uh flat lot looking as

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you know if you were parking and coming to the facility. The facade will be visible partially from the corner but um most of this facade will be for you know visible to banking customers. Uh left to right this is the main entry. The stairs that we've been seeing in all the

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images. The time mosaic is continuing the brick facads wrapping around and then um windows in the offices and a painted stucco on on the um the the parking lot side. This is Alton Court. So this is the the back view if you will. This is a kind of

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continuation of um stucco and paint. And this is an employee only um entry and exit. Last I I call this one the buried facade. So this would be the south which is adjacent to the largest building here. We're taking Alton Road to the

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right. We're wrapping the premium, you know, the brick material around the corner to to make sure that that's always visible from Alton Road. You're not seeing the the stucco finish. And then in the buried facade, we're using stucco, uh, painted stucco. Um, this is a bit redundant, but this is

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the the specific labeling of what I've all uh described here verbally. And then a couple views. So this would be heading south to north of of the building. Um, managing the elevation changes with stepped landscape. Mr. Madan talked about, you know, our street

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twos at one point are closer to the building, then they jog to the landscape barriers and they jog back. Um this is a view from the north on Alton Road heading south. So in this view I think it's important to see the the design of the screen walls where the

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screen walls design is cognizant of the current level of the road but also the future crown of the road at 5.8 so that we're able to screen uh the ATM and the drive-through aspect um and then also create kind of layers of landscape. So, it's a it's a teiered

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shrubs and then it's the the green buttonwood trees. I think an important note here too is um at the crosswalk is where we landed our our ramp but also the sign which is part of the variance is located here. So, if someone with an

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accessibility need I think it gives a bit of wayfinding additionally to find the bank. So, if you're on the sidewalk, you might get confused, but we think that adds a little wayfinding to get to the building and um for an accessible customer. >> Chris, before you leave the wall, can you talk about the materials associated

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with the wall? >> Yes. Uh the wall is um it's it's it'll be vertical CMU. We'll have um lights, which we'll look at it at in a night shot, and then it's stucco uh painted stucco in the sign. The this is a view from the flat lot.

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Like this might be how you enter um the property either by car um and park. And then last here is an image of the the screen walls at night. So there is a lit element. These screen walls are uh separated by approximately a foot.

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There's a vertical um light between those. I think important note that this rendering probably represents the light over exposed in a certain area. The intent is these lights are asymmetrically wall washing. So kind of just gently grazing the face of the wall

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and not it's not intent to be like a blast of light in a single location. It's it's a it's a linear graze of the wall. Okay. Okay. So yeah, let me briefly touch I know we've gone over our time. I'll briefly touch on the two variances that Raelio again explained very well. We're

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requesting to wave the the need for a loading space given the nature of the use and we have a very minor uh increase in that detached wall sign. Um the overall signage on Alton Road basically is we are we would our building itself

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would allow 56 square feet and so we are under that with the uh with a combo um of the two or there or near about my math is terrible or about right on the line. So, with that, that's our everyone's favorite slide, as I always say. Uh, we're here for any questions

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you may have. Again, we we're very excited about the the improvement to this site, to the operation of the bank, to the aesthetics of the bank, and to the the the improvement to the pedestrian realm that's long overdue in this portion of Walton Road. So, we're here for any questions you may have, and

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I'd like to reserve time for rebuttal. >> Thank you. Um, do we have any disclosures before we do public? comment. >> I met I met on the site with uh the legal team yesterday. Walk the site.

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>> Okay. >> Any disclosures? No. >> Okay. Let's open to the public. >> All right. Anybody online who'd like to speak? Please raise your hand. Nobody online. Anybody in the chambers would like to

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speak? We're back. Okay. I think we can close the public hearing. >> Go up to the board. >> Thank you again. >> Thank you. Beautiful presentation. Building looks awesome. Looks great. Quick question. The separation between

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the property to the south and the bank is what what does that walkway look like? Um there also wanted to mention that that that lighting on the fence that you touched on that rendering doesn't do it justice. I'm I'm guessing because it

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just looks off. >> You saying the night rendering? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it it's it's I would call it overexposed. Um the intent of the light is to be a linear wash of the wall. >> Yeah, it doesn't give it that image. But >> yeah, I think I think the the the image is not accurately representing the the

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like the linear throw of that light. >> Right. And um my my third question is the lots to the west. I I saw by the tax rule that Bank of America owns two lots on the other side of the alley. >> Yes. >> Is that used for temporary parking? Is

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there a future uh idea for those lots? What's the What's the idea? Because obviously it should be kind of like part of it. >> It is satellite parking for the bank now and it will be satellite parking for the revised bank. So there there's no proposal to develop it right now. >> Got it. And there's no touching up or

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doing anything to it to >> I mean it's not within the scope of this application. Um uh so but we are still using it for parking. I I mean if the so the bank is not proposing to alter it in any in any way right now. >> Got it. Okay. >> Yeah. So so to answer your question,

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you're talking about the the small space between these two buildings. Can I put my hand here? Yeah. >> So the the intent is we're keeping currently um an existing screw pine landscape wise. We're we're we're trying to plant essentially like a barrier for

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to keep this area safe and then we're lighting this at night on this side. So it's it it's not a an intended like sight occupiable area and our intent is to keep it safe and to provide plantings on the road that would prevent someone

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coming through. One question. Uh, is there a question why is there a reason why you went from a two-story building down to one story? This cost, I assume, or budget. >> I think it I think it I think it was the bank's decision that they found it the

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one story was more appropriate for them at this time. I I um I think it was just how many banking associates they need and what they saw appropriate for the the the flow of traffic here. >> Yeah. I just really don't like seeing surface parking lots in a dense mixeduse

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zoned area that could have housing above it or any type of other type of use for a one-story building that's more suburban looking than I think a urban area. >> Mhm. >> Like Alton right here. >> I'm not sure. Have you guys considered

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doing a mixeduse building that has housing or any type of use that could be >> The bank hasn't considered that to my knowledge. >> Would they consider using putting any other use for that? >> I think their intended use is what they're presenting here today. I I think their intent is to serve their client

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base here in Miami Beach. >> Yeah, this is prime commercial location. And I think a one-story suburban building where a mixed juice property could be a lot more useful for the community than just the st their project their land. They can decide what they want to do with it. But

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>> I think just for the community in a whole it would be much more beneficial for the city if it was a dense most people don't like more density in area but I think this location would be better a dense project but that's just my personal opinion.

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>> Thank you. Thanks. >> Um, thank you. I I like this new building. I think I think it fits the style of sort of more art deco, but it's also modern at the same time. Um, so I I

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like the design a lot. Um, the wall screening I think is a great idea because like a ke I I don't love service parking lots that much. Um, but I do think that at least, you know, brings a better pedestrian experience.

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Um, as good as you can get on Alton. Um, but I guess I'm looking at the wall. Um, I I don't know. It kind of seems like a little bare to me. And maybe when the landscaping um comes to maturity, this

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>> it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But I don't know. To me, it looks a little barren. Um, I don't know if has has there been consideration about potentially maybe bringing that art mosaic that's on the main building, just maybe pieces of

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that on the wall. I that might just bring more interest to an otherwise bare wall. Um, so that's something I would suggest looking into. >> Mhm. I I think you bring up a good point which is the landscape and it's hard to represent often the landscape in these

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renderings, but um the landscape is quite robust. We've got several layers of both shrubs and trees, green buttonwoods in front of this. I think you can kind of see in the elevation that I've got on the screen now that the wall less the location where you will

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enter the the the um the ramp will be quite landscaped. Um and I think that's both on day one just on like how many plants that we're planting but over time it will become a landscaped elevation. Um

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>> okay. Yeah. I I don't know. It's just it's just like a white a series of white walls for quite like half you know half of your project but just bringing some some visual interest there. I I would I would ask that maybe you consider that with your artist to you know you don't have to mosaic the whole wall but maybe

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there's just >> moments of that throughout. Um I think that that would go a long way. I have no um issue with the variances you're seeking. I think that the size of the sign is appropriate like you said for somebody entering through the ramp that >> just given the the length of the lot

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it's it's needed. Um >> so yeah thank you overall beautiful project. >> Thank you. [snorts] >> Um I like the fact uh double lane parking parking is always in you know an issue here. Um just curious the phases

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timelines. >> That's Mr. Cog's question. Yeah, I I'm I'm I don't know if we have a, you know, a definitive timeline as to the length of this. >> Um, it is going to be some time because we're talking about the demolition,

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construction of a new facade, and then several phases. Um, I'd have to get with I think the owner to be committal on like actual specifics on that, but as you can imagine, it's going to be over a typical, you know,

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one-story construction timeline. >> Yeah, it just seems that like the project has been needed for a long time and it's been in the process for a long time as well. So, um, that's why I'm curious to see a timeline and, um, I

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would have to agree with my colleague on the variances. I don't object to the variances, but I do would like to see some of that mosaic as, as she stated before as well. I think that is it's a it's a little bare, especially being

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just white out there. So, um, I thought of the same thing. So, that's my opinion. Thank you and congratulations to you and your group on the designs. Very beautiful. >> Thank you. >> So I have a few questions and just to continue with the front wall and the

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landscaping in front of it that maybe it incorporates some of the mosaic and maybe a little bit less uh landscaping so that the mosaic can be seen in certain spots. Um, and I I understand what you're saying. Once it's fully

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grown, you may not see that white wall at all. So, if you do put mosaic in it, you obviously would have to cut down on the bushes and the shrubs that may be hiding it. Um, as to my questions, um, there is a apartment building to the

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west of the site has and currently the bank has ingress to the driveway for the tellers through the Alton Road court. Am I correct in that? >> Correct. >> But they don't have exit. Exit is

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through Alton. So, um, has there been any communication with the building, apartment building behind the site now that there'll be entrance and exit through Alton Road Court behind their apartment building?

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>> The um, well, Myra, there there was, let's put, we can put up the aerial. Oh, thanks, guys. I see it. Um, right now, aside from the drive-thru, right, the the the exit from the site is north on Alton Court anyway, right? So, the the only way you would be leaving if you

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were going to leave, say you parked in the normal parking, right? That's on the west of the building itself. You would likely just go north and leave. Well, you can't go south because the al the the court the court goes only north. So, you would make a right and go north. So, all those cars are still already leaving

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all that in. It's not changing that at all. And of course, any of the parking that's on the the satellite lot, it's the same that they will be going north through there. Some people go through the the um the drive-thru, but the vast majority of the traffic now goes through

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Alton Court anyway. Um, so but that to answer your specific question, no, we have not done any specific outreach to that building. But in our opinion, this is an improvement for for them as well given the way that the operation is going to be improved and that the parking is being increased on on the

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site. So there's less likelihood of people parking in the alley and and and and of course the the introduction of all the new landscaping, etc. that we're doing. But yeah, um it's not really changing the orientation much at all. Um because most cars still go north and

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leave on Alton Court, >> but they will be currently there is entrance to the parking for getting the driveway through Alton in the future. It will only be through Alton Road Court. >> Oh, no. Let me be very clear. There's no

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way to get in on the property now from Alton Road. >> Okay. >> The the drive-throughs are exit only. So, you just have those five drive-throughs just pushing out, >> including parking, people that are just there for >> Yeah. visiting the bank. >> Yeah. I mean, if you can't Yeah. Yeah.

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You can't get in here from anywhere but through west from from our our parking lot on west. You can come through and obviously park on that satellite lot or from Alton Court. So, it's not is we're not uh we're not changing the people entering the property. We're just

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removing the exit on Alton uh from all those drive-throughs. >> And the apartment building is more towards the >> north >> southern portion of the property. >> Well, the these guys are >> north, >> right? They're here.

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>> So, we have a apartment that's right at our northern tip. This is commercial, right? So, and >> but to the west of the property, >> that's us, right? So, >> so you're on the west and Okay. Because the the um memorandum says that there's

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an apartment building to the west. >> So, it could be the apartment building. >> It's these guys. >> Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Uh the other question I have, you are talking about raising the sidewalks because of future raising of Alton Road

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to the crown being uh 5.8. Um, I thought, and this is more of a question to the city, I thought Lower Alton, and Andreas may know as well, he follows all this. Um, I thought Lower Alton all the way to Michigan and maybe Chase Avenue

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had already been done by FDOT. And now they're proceeding with Middle Alton, which is from 41st more or less till 51st, uh, 47th, whatever. >> Future phase. This is this is for well in the future. So you're the Alton Road

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was under construction this part of Alton Road probably 10 years ago at this point 11 maybe nine 10 years ago. Um and so that that is complete but there is plans in the very distant future to to you know keep keep going up as needed uh

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as sea level rise uh continues to affect the city >> in 2050 correct >> that we're talking about because 2037 is when they're gearing >> upper Alton. So, um, and and I thought that they at least with the other

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residential portions of Alton, they are saying they're not increasing the crown of the road, even though the city may have a desire for Alton to increase the crown. The FDOT is saying we do not increase the crown even though we are increasing the storm sewer drains.

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>> Mhm. >> Um, diameters. Um, okay. So you're basically following what the city is requesting, correct? Not what FD dot is requesting, which is the owner of the road. >> Correct. So the city has standards that that the the frontage requirements

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require us to meet. >> Okay. >> The the city standards require that that um certain roads because they may be an evacuation road be higher than what we would require in a residential road. And the crown of the road is also affected the the number that is chosen is

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affected by when the project is expected to go under construction. So if you're if it's a project that's going to be built 10 years in the future, their future crown of road number will be a higher number than something that's going to be built within the next two years. >> Um

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the other question I have that one of your variances or waiverss is for signage and I don't have a problem with the size. I think it's acceptable to the entire building uh size. Um, but I did notice there were three signs on the

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different plans that you showed. AO17, AO22, and AO23. One faces Alton, one faces the parking lot, and one faces, I believe, Alton Court. >> Um, does the code allow for three signs on one building >> that does occupy two properties?

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Basically, >> the code the code allows you to have a sign on each facade. Yes. >> Um so they have they have one on the facade on Alton, one facing the parking lot and then you are allowed a detach sign as well. Um and so the variance is specifically for the detach sign that is going to be built on that on that put on

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that street screen. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? >> Um thank you very much for the presentation and the design. Uh it seems like a lot of conversation about this uh screening wall. Do you happen to have a

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detail of the lighting that you can show us? >> Not in as part of this presentation. I don't. >> Okay. Is it a concealed fixture? Because I from the rendering that was another thing I noticed uh initially was is this something that's going to be shining

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into people's eyes as they're driving on the road south or is it going to be indirect and just shining at the other wall so it gives it the glow? >> Yeah. So I'll I'll try to verbally describe it. If you can imagine these walls not as connected planes but essentially overlapping

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planes there will be approximately one foot gap between these walls and there will be an overlap between these walls in the order of a foot also where where we will essentially conceal a linear light along the you know the exposed

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vertical length of that. So I think as a as a pedestrian, if you're acutely looking through the the the passage, you may see a fixture, but the overlap will largely conceal the visual of the light. As relates to the light, the intent is that it's not like a, you know, like

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some of these facads we see see are just blasting light out. It is an asymmetrical wall wash, which is essentially a lensed fixture that is intended to throw light only on a vertical face. So the light will be aimed on the face of the wall, not the pedestrians or the the roadway.

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>> Okay. Yeah. I just would have concerned if if there wasn't a diffuser or something that that it is affecting people driving and maybe distracting. So um that was a concern. Um the ideas about bringing some of the mosaic onto

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um these screening walls could be a nice idea just to sort of carry it through. I don't know how much >> of it, right? And >> I >> something to break up the monotony of a white wall. Maybe planting will do that. I

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>> and and I looked at the planting and they do they do have some robust, but maybe just, you know, maybe the first panel is the signage panel can stay stay plain, but then the the mosaic is is sort of teased a little bit through,

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right? It doesn't not a full cladding of the wall. >> Yeah. But bringing a little color and a sort of movement along the wall there and connecting the site. Um >> I think that's those are nice suggestions. >> I can see it more as movement than than

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color. >> Yeah. >> Um >> so yeah, I think that's uh that's a nice suggestion if somebody wanted to uh make a motion on something like that. So, I make a motion that we

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accept um to approve DRB 24 1061414 alternat with the recommendation that you take into consideration the additional art towards the the wall and the frontage of the property >> just for the design.

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>> This so the varianes separately. >> Yeah, it's just for Okay. Okay. So, incorporate the mosaic um that is currently proposed for the facade extended onto the street screen um subject to the approval of staff so that we can >> correct >> from subtly

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>> subtle motions. >> No. [laughter] No. Yes. Not a lot. Yeah. I leave it up to propose a subtle incorporation into particularly the early panels that may not be concealed by the landscape. Um and an homage to maybe someone picking up that that mosaic along the way.

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I'll second that. >> That was a great idea. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, I like it. Okay, so we have a motion by Miss Bakavali, second by Miss Leuen. Um, all those in favor? >> I I >> Any opposed? >> Motion passes. Okay. And then we'll need

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a sec a separate motion for the variances. >> I'll I'll make a motion to approve both variances. and the waiver. >> And do you need one for the waiver as well? >> The waivers get included. >> Okay.

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>> Um Okay. So, we have a motion by Miss Leuen, second by Mr. Lester on the variances. Um to approve the two variances. All those in favor? >> I >> I. Any opposed? Nope. Motion passes. >> Thank you so much. Oh, before we before

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I forget, uh, Raelio and Alejandro, we there was a typo in the draft order regarding the the plan reference. I just want to make sure that's >> we'll correct the the typo in the order. It's just the listing the correct architect and plan name. >> Okay. Again, we appreciate everyone's time. >> Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you everybody. >> Okay. Should we move on to the next application? >> Yeah. Uh the next application is DRB 251099 935 Second Street. This application has been filed requesting design review approval for the construction of a new

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three-story multif family building including variances for minimum lot size and lot width and including one or more waiverss to be built on a vacant site. Uh the proposed building is in the RPS one zoning district and the south of Fifth neighborhood and is surrounded by

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multif family buildings and three single family residences. I think in the staff report we said one but it's actually three single family residences adjacent to this property. The proposed building is sighted on a narrow substandard lot

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measuring 40 ft wide by 100 ft deep totaling 4,000 square ft. The project proposes proposes a total of two units, one per floor on the second and third levels. The ground floor contains four tandem parking spaces, an entrance

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vestibule, an elevator, encloses stairs, a trash room, and ancillary storage spaces. The second and third floors each contain one apartment unit of 1,710 ft with two bedrooms and two bedrooms and a large front and rear balconies.

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The shared rooftop terrace feature built-in planters with irrigation and lighting and and aluminum trellises for some protection. The building has a contemporary design. Its front south elevation features cypress colored wood cladding that wraps the ground floor

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garage, the second and third floors and the rooftop parapit. The large floor to ceiling impact resistant windows with champagne colored aluminum frames are recessed into the wood cladding on the upper floors. A wide stucco edge outline the second floor slab adding contrast

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between the wood elements above above and below. Frameless glass balconies railings maintain visual transparency and landscape visible above the parapet soften the rooftop terrace. The east side of the building is simpler finished in white semi smooth stucco with

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recessed windows and a gray rough stucco stair and elevator core with reveal joints. The west side uses the same white stucco and recessed windows, but it is further animated by recessed balcony balconies with frameless glass railings and warm wood clad walls.

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Uh staff is supportive of the proposed design which is in character with the surrounding neighborhood. In addition to this, the applicant is requesting the following variances. Uh variance number one is a lot area variance to reduce the minimum lot area required in the RPS1

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zoning district by 1,750 ft where 5750 ft² is required and 4,000 square ft is existing. The second variance is a lot with variance a variance to reduce the minimum lot requiring [clears throat]

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the RPS one zoning district by 10 ft where 50 is required and 40 ft is existing. The subject parcel is an undersized lot non-conforming in both lot size and lot width. The lot does not appear to have been platted in this manner and

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therefore it is not considered a legally non-conforming lot. The lot is made up of the eastern portion of the two adjacent parcels likely the backyards of their homes on those par parcels. Historic parcel maps indicate that this

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configuration existed prior to 1941. This regulation would prevent the applicant from developing this the parcel thereby creating a significant hardship and a practical difficulty. The adjacent parcels are similarly unders sized so negative impacts are not

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anticipated from the granting of the proposed variances. Given that given that the site could otherwise not be developed, staff is supportive of the granting of the proposed variances. In view of the foregoing analysis, staff recommend applications to be approved with the conditions including and

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requested variances subject to the conditions on the draft order. I know if I don't know if the applicant is here to make a repres a presentation. >> No, it's going to be by Zoom. >> I assume. Okay.

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>> So, >> okay. The the architects are online by Zoom. Um do we before we move on to their um presentation, are there any disclosures?

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No. Okay. Um are you are you the owner of >> on behalf of the owner? Okay. Do you mind um coming up and then we will can you introduce who the architect is going to be? >> Who I should let speak? >> I don't know anything about that much.

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>> Okay. So who who's the AR what who should I do you know? I see some numbers on here. Um, >> Alon and I see a phone number. Alon, okay. >> Alon, please introduce yourself and you're welcome to present. >> Do you swear to tell the truth, the

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whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> If you're presenting the if you're presenting this application, you have 10 minutes. Greetings to the board and I would like to thank the board staff for the support

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because uh this is the first time our office uh will be presenting what project on the city of Miami and greetings to everyone. I would like to uh walk you through the project very

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briefly. Um, the address of the project would be 935 Second Street, Miami Beach. And this is a three-story residential building with two units and a roof.

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>> Don, do we have a presentation that we a visual presentation to to look at with something uploaded? >> Yes. Um, >> there should there should be a There it is. Okay. Thank you. when you're when you're ready to move slides, please indicate next slide and then we'll

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>> got it. So, yeah, we're going to be uh talking about the project location. This presentation shows the contest and the system conditions. Uh then we're going to go through the proposal architectural proposal and uh we're going to talk uh about the

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variance request and then we have floor plans sections and elevations to go to the specific we can go to the nest. Uh these plans are showing the maps where uh we can see the the parcel at

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the south of the Miami beach. Um, we're located on RPS1, the not historic uh part of the Miami Beach and the future uh will remain as ASPS1

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nest. In a closer look, uh we can see the location of this lot. Uh would be very uh next to South Point uh beach, South Point Park, next less

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than one uh less than one mile to South uh Point Park and really close to the Miami Beach Maria. We get we have also Sus Point Elementary School right uh to the west of the of

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the property. So it's a very small lot but is uh it has a great location on the Miami Beach. Next. So here are some aerial views so we can understand the contest and the location

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of this vacant lot. We have adjacent uh residential uh properties on the two sides of the lot. We have one story uh single family residence with a

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traditional pitch uh roof. There's uh others three, four and five stories multifamily buildings. Um but we only have uh we can see in the

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next in the next page please with a closer closer look. Yeah, this is the site and we can see that we have only one uh entrance only one frontage uh along the second street and we can see with uh

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better detail the two one story uh single family residence and on the right of the page we can see the typical uh two to three stories four stories uh single family multifamily buildings that

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we uh on the zone next. And now with a closer look in elevation uh we can see now the the proposal for the architecture. We're going to have an

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understory uh area on the ground floor and then we are going to uh we're proposing uh the two units on the second and the the third floor that you can see on the elevation and then a rooftop.

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There will be a a difference in height between the single family residence we have adjacent to the lot. But that will not happen with the multifamily buildings uh on the other side of the street and on the rear

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of our lot to the north side. Um next. Yeah, this is an area view with a rendering of the proposal. As we can see the we are using the the

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rooftop with a continuous uh landscape planter and this would be an introspective uh rooftop just for the residents of the building. Uh we are using the uh trying to use the

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same language that we have in the from the multif family buildings uh adjacent with uh I mean trying to uh not to open too much the the sides to respect the um

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the private uh residents on the sides and enhancing the front edges to the second street and the rear of the property with um a glass storefront

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along the second street. Next, this is a view an area view from uh approximately Alton Road. Uh now he can we can see the intention of uh impact resistance to front uh that

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will create a pretty uh emphasis on the on the frontage of the building. Yes. [clears throat] And we are providing a poor poor uh parking spaces that will be completely

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uh concealed with a wooden rollup door uh in tandem. And we're going to be uh landscaping uh concealing the landscape the the parking from the

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sides. You can see there clearly say see the the second and the third floor uh the the two units that we're proposing and the rooftop would not have any impact to the public view. You can see the existing condition on

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the on the left of the page. Next [clears throat] here are the elevations. Uh we can see we're using materials as as I was saying composite wood for the framing uh

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frameless glass. Um we're using uh spos concrete architectural exposed concrete with uh joints to create some modern uh modern styles along with the art deco uh

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vertical window slots recess. We're using also um white stock and we texture white stock also to create some detailing to to the facade nest.

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These are the sides of the building. So here you can see the intention of minimizing the the perforations to the single family resident size. So uh it is the strong intention to maintain the privacy

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to the neighbors on the sides. Next this is a page for the specific we can now nest next. So here's a roof plan and here's what I would like to uh speak a little bit

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about the the variance request uh which is really simple. Uh variance number one uh will be uh a request to reduce the minimum lot area uh from

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what is required of 5,750 square ft to 5,000 4,000 square ft existing building variance number two is to reduce the minimum lot width

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from uh 50 ft to 40 ft uh which is existing uh here on the roof. On the roof we can see uh that we are proposing a small trellis only very light structure. Uh we are going to have only the elevator

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bulkhead and the stairs roof going up to the to the rooftop and facing the second street. Uh we are trying to uh also maintain a landscape buffer along the

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along the second street and and using the planters to provoke the the privacy right to maintain the privacy. Uh and it's it's a continuum planter. And we have on the north side of the of our

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property, we have um uh a pool deck which is the other neighbor we have a uh adjacent to the north. Uh and we are not using that part of the roof. We are using it only for uh uh it's a

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non-accessible roof with rooftop. Next, this is a ground floor plan. Uh and we can see a little bit on detail how the tandem um parking spaces are going to be um uh located.

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And here we can see the the ramp at the west side of the no of the lot. We're creating a ramp to access to the raised deck that take you to the elevator and to the first habitable floor on the

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second. And then you are going to have access to a rear jar which is going to be all landscape uh surrounded by landscape uh in all the property faces. [clears throat] Next.

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And here's how the roof terrace would look like. It's a lot of landscape uh concealing the the roof terraas that we are proposing next. And here are some some of the sections.

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So we can uh uh see how the the the the crown of row would be the future crown of row will be raised and how are we raising the the the main deck that takes you to the

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elevator to the uh base uh to the design base floor. And then the height of the building uh is um set at 36 ft when the limit would be uh 40 ft. Next.

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And here is a longitudinal uh section where we can see when it says lobby there on the center of the of the building. That would be the the decks that we're trying to reach with the ramp in one of the sides. And you [clears throat] can see here the

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standard parking. Uh we have B uh bicycle. Uh >> Mr. Chair, how much more time? >> Can I I'm gonna give you another one more minute just to wrap this up. >> No. Uh and that's it. That that's uh basically the project. Uh if you have

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any any question, I'm glad to answer. Thank you all. >> Thank you. Um, do we have any disclosures the board? >> We have some, we do have some hands raised if you want to open the public hearing. >> It's open to [snorts] the public.

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>> The first one is a phone number 30305215 6694. Oh, the hand was just removed. Anybody who'd like to speak, please raise your hand. Okay, we have uh Tara Panachoni.

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>> Tara, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. You have two minutes. Please state your name and address. >> Hi, Terry Panchone, 227 Michigan.

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Um, I'm directly north of this project, homeowner. And I just want to point out that the fact that this um >> I don't know. Am I echoing on your end? >> Yes, you are. >> I don't know why. [clears throat]

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>> How is it? >> What's going on? I just want to point out that this project is in the direct middle of the street flanking two single family homes on each side which would cause you know an obtuse situation in both of

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those single family homes or the three single family homes that are around it. Uh the other thing is is that the back of this building pushed back all the way to the lot line and on the top has air conditioners that will be directly over

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the pool deck of 227 Michigan which would cause a nuisance with noise and also it would not be very nice to look at from our buildings and the design from Alton Road. It looks a little awkward over

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those single tails >> since it's in the middle of the knot. >> That's better. >> Thank you. >> Next we have >> Next we have Claudia Monty. >> Claudia, do you swear to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. >> Thank you. You have two minutes. Please state your name and address. >> Claudia Damonte. Um 927 Street, Miami Beach, Florida, 33139. >> You can uh you can give your comment.

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>> Yes. Um we are at 927 Street adjacent to the property and the property um we are single family home. This property will not have the right setbacks, will cause noise, will damage our light and air and um lo we'll have loss of privacy. It's

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going to devalue our property. Um this we will be able to literally reach across and we could put our hands out and touch this property. It's going to block everything for us, basically ruining our lives. And it's not well thought out. It's totally oversized. And

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the way they're measuring where the plantings are going to be and how it's going to overhang is delusional. We're extremely upset and totally opposed to this coming to this little square of what's left of single family homes in in

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this area. It's a disaster for us. >> Thank you. Is that it? Um, I think we could also say that that the landscaping um on the >> Sorry, sir. Can I swear you in >> Can you swear? Can I swear in

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>> Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, I do. >> Thank you. Please state your name and address or I guess the address is the same, but your name's William McGawan. It's 9272nd Street, Miami Beach.

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>> Thank you. Yeah. Um, one one obvious thing is that the the landscaping is um proposed as palm trees on the east side of the of the the building which will hang over

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directly hang over our property. um and blocking blocking the uh the um the light and and the debris coming from the landscaping will will be all over our

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property. Um that seems, you know, the 3 and 1/2t setback, the 42 in setback seems extremely um un unreasonable.

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So I think that that looking at what looking at the drawings and what's proposed um it dwarfs it dwarfs our property and the and the one on on the west side

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also. So, um I I would like to to con, you know, to have time to consider more um of the problems that we're going to have with the existing proposal and um and and present those problems in a

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way that is uh that's um formally understood and and and in writing. Um, there are no no other hands raised. >> Oh, no. Sorry. I apologize. There's a Cindy Esql.

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>> Cindy, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes. Hi. Good morning. Cindy Esavl, 140 Jefferson Avenue. Um, I live at the courts um across the street from the subject property being being presented

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today. Um, I did appreciate being able to see the aerial views. Um, but one thing, some I have a couple comments and I have a question for the designer review board as I came a little bit late. Um, and I did get the tail end of the presentation. Um, my two questions

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are about the setback. Is it 3 ft from the property line and the fence 6 in from the line? That's question number one. Question number two is this zoned for commercial and multifamily property. From what I'm understanding, that vacant

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lot was a single house um single family property prior. Um there are as you depicted in the drawings in the pictures the presentation I got the tail end is that particular area of second Michigan had four family homes. It now has three

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in a vacant lot. the other ones depicted which is my building which is obviously zoned for commercial and multif family as a condo and then you have from second street going eastbound from Alton to

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Washington you have um a townhouse um multif family which is uh trile on some and two on the other and then you also have a condo on the other side. These other two vacant lots that were depicted

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that uh one is currently being built and one was already built. Those are single family homes. So what you know my concern here is this is not a single family home. I think the other comments that you heard there were sincere because what's happening is there are

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two concerns that I would have for the neighborhood um for the integrity of what we have now is that that is a very large structure in a small space in my opinion. It's also the design is for three units. So my concern is you know

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he claims there's parking underneath. We already have a parking problem already with very little parking on second and very very limited parking um because of all the the desire and need uh for the surrounding area on Michigan. So I ask

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that this particular property perhaps they can come back with a single family home. I think that would be more relevant because that's what's already there and that's what's already been approved on Second Street. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Um, there's one more. It's a phone

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number. It's 1352156694. >> Can people answer what she said? >> Can the caller please state their name and address? >> Hi, my name is uh Hello, my name is Clark Mitchell. I live at 205 Michigan Avenue right next to the property on the west side. >> Clark, do you swear to the truth, the

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whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, I did. I'd like to say good morning to our awesome mayor and our awesome commissioners, but in addition, I concur with everything that's already been said. And uh I have gone down to the city and I spoke to Cara Boils and

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Regulio and I found out that the zoning was changed from RM1 to 3001 and I don't recall ever having a hearing on that. And then the setback uh as uh as concurring with my neighbor on the

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east side of the lot, um this thing's going to be right in our face and I was set back um 6 in from our property line. So, I'd like to know is this thing three 42 inches from the property line

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including their fence setback and I'm concerned about that the area has residential, you know, single family residences already and it's been it's it was built in 1936. So, um I hope it stays in the framework

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of the single family home. The other thing is the architect and the and the property owner have never reached out to us. Have never come by and knocked on a door just to say, "H, hey, how you doing?" And I'm I'm I'm open to building on the lot. I mean, this place needs to get developed. I know it's going to be

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developed and I'm happy for it to happen, but I'd like them to be in agreement with all of our concerns, and I hope they abide by that. I welcome them to do what they, you know, to come to our doors and talk to us. And uh just for the record, I'd like to say all

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these chickens down here, they're not mine. >> Thank you. >> There are no other hands are raised. I don't know if there's anybody else in the audience that would like to speak. Roelio, I think it would be helpful to

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me and maybe to the other board members that before we start deliberating that you just uh inform us as to what is allowed in the current zoning which is RPS-1. >> Is it residential? Is it multif family?

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What is it? And then also based on the comments and concerns of the neighbors that called in um what are the required setbacks on the side, front and rear based on the size of this lot?

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>> Okay. So I guess first of all can we close the public hearing? Yes. Yes. Okay. Um the the site is zoned RPS1. That is uh in what's in the south of Fifth area. of the zoning is called the performance standards district and R stands for residential and one is the

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lowest intensity. So it is a multif family district does not allow for commercial uses um but it does allow for for for an apartment building essentially. Um so the applicant is proposing two units. So that would be an allowable use within this district. Um

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as far as I know it has always been zoned for for multif family at least going back to the prior prior zoning code in 1989. I I don't recall it being um anything else. Um the sides the

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setbacks that are required here are um on the side interior setbacks they're 5T. There's a on the front there's a build two line of 5T and the project complies with both of those. They're not seeking any variances of the setbacks. So >> front or side

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>> front or side um it's it's five feet on both sides and five feet in the front. And then on the rear, um >> 10%. >> It's 10% of the lot depth. So this would be

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got to do some math here. 10 ft sounds right. >> And does the project comply with those? >> They're complying with the required setback >> with the side setback front and rear. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. So there the the only variances they're

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seeking is for the lot size. Um any of the immediate lots in this vicinity if they were going to be developed would would likely need um redeveloped. They would likely need a similar variance because all of the site all of the lots in this area are undersized. >> So the lot size is 4,000 square ft. The

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proposed F is 456 square ft. >> Mhm. Um, so they're basically, but then it says maximum F. >> Yes, they are slightly below the maximum allowable F. >> So they're okay with the F. >> Correct.

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>> Um, what is the issue with the lot size? >> The code. Um, >> yeah, there is there is a minimum required lot size for this zoning district which is a I have it here. they have they have now 4,000 but the lot the

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requirement is 5,750 so it's a smaller lot the same for the lot width which the requirement is 50 ft and they are 40 ft so they need these variances to develop the >> so in Roelio's presentation I recall that apparently this lot um had some

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other piece of property adjacent to it that was broken off and I guess sold for something else whether it be the building in the back which is um um a fivestory building the one that Mrs. Pacani

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>> uh was referring to or the building um to the west which is a multif family um one story but that was built in 3536 so >> Mhm. >> U may have been either one of those two. >> Yeah. the it what it appears is that

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this lot was originally the rear yard of the two lots facing um >> is it Commerce Street facing Mhm. >> I apologize. Let me go to the

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>> Is it possible to bring up the um map that shows the location of the lot in relation >> Michigan Avenue? >> Michigan Avenue. >> Michigan Avenue. Okay. >> So, it it appears that that this was the rear yard of the lots facing Michigan Avenue originally, probably a hundred

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years ago. >> Um when we looked >> Michigan, I'm sorry, Michigan is to the east. >> To the west. >> To the west. >> To the west. When we looked at old lot maps going back to the 1940s, it looks like this lot was split off at some point um in

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the 1940s and created as a separate lot. So, they took the rear yards of those two homes that were existing since the 1930s and made a separate lot um that was that was undersized and that resulted in all all of the lots being undersized. This predates our current

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regulations. This seems like it was done without a formal repling process. people used to just cut the land, do a survey, and sell it. >> Um, and so because it was never formally replatted, we can't consider it a legally non-conforming lot. If it was a

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legally non-conforming lot that had been platted pursuant to the regulations at the time, um, they wouldn't need this variance, but because we can find no evidence of a formal replat process, they need a variance for the for for it being undersized um, and and not meeting

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the minimum lot width. So, anything that they would want to build on this lot would require this variance. >> And because the lot is 4,000 square feet, um what would typically be the allowed

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um F allowed in a lot of 5,000 square ft of 4,000 square ft. >> So, we we basically just multiply the lot size times 1.25. Um so, in this case, it's a it's a 4,000t lot. We multiply it by 1.25 25

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and you would be allowed to do a 5,000 foot building. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And lot coverage and unit size. >> Um the lot coverage, we don't have lot coverage regulations in this district. We just have uh setbacks.

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>> Okay. >> Um which they comply with. And then the minimum unit size, there is a minimum unit size. I believe it's 550 square ft, but they they comply with it. Let me let me just double check that. that minimum unit size >> in open space for

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>> there there is a requirement for open space that they are providing it does allow you to provide some of that on the roof and some of that in the rear yard um and so they're complying with that regulation >> so the unit size is 550 square ft >> the the minimum they exceed that each

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each unit is >> um each unit is 1,700 square fees. >> So the fact that they exceed the unit size is not a problem to planning. >> Correct. No, it's we have a minimum. So you you're so actually the minimum unit

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size in this district is 700 square f feet. Um and then the and there's no average. So they exceed the minimum of 700. So they're fine. >> Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Anybody else want to

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take a take a stab at this? I can't >> I have a comment. I'm not. >> Go ahead. [snorts] >> Uh regarding the landscaping on the palms are being designed for the east side. The homeowner was making a comment regarding how that's going to be probably an issue for them. I have uh

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two homes that have palms and they're constantly falling that my neighbors palms are constantly falling on my lot and my palms are falling on on their lot as well. So I could understand the concern of the homes that are there with these palms being put up because they're the fronds will fall onto their property

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and they're going to have to deal with that for sure. >> Yeah. [snorts] Um okay. I guess I'll I'll begin. And I mean, thank you for the explanation, too, Raalo, because that that was that was very helpful. And I mean, I definitely sympathize with the the neighbors here. Um, but it it almost

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sounds like this isn't this is largely permitted by right and this isn't really within our our purview to deny. Um, you know, and I I think this is again, it's just a

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this is a changing neighborhood. I I was looking down second and and you know it's it's largely multifamily absent this little corner now. Um so

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you know speaking speaking to the the design and and how to relate it to what is existing now who which you know could could also change in the future and they they may want to develop something similar. Um, I I do

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agree with Andreas about the the palms. I mean, it's it's kind of tough, right? Because you what else can you plant there in that that small area? Um, but per perhaps, you know, I I'd encourage the applicant to be having these

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discussions with their neighbors. I I you know, I'm it was upsetting to hear, I guess, that that that wasn't that wasn't done here. Um, but maybe there can be talks with with the neighbors about maintenance of the palms or

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whatever is planted there. I'm struggling to think what else would really fit well there that wouldn't also be a nuisance, but um I Yeah, I so that that's kind of my thoughts on on the the palm issue. Maybe

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the maybe we could encourage the applicant to to take on responsibility and require them to, you know, be proactively maintaining the palm so it doesn't become a nuisance for the neighbors. Um maybe that's beyond our purview as well. Um I think that

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speaking to the design, which is really what we're here to talk about, the I I do like the building. I think that the design is is very nice. Um, I I appreciate the the sides of the building. It seems like some thought was

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a lot of thought was there to to kind of break up monotony and provide interest on the side of the building. Um, so I I'm in favor of of the design. Um, I I don't really have any any comments

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there. Um, so I'll let somebody else go on. >> I have two comments that I make. I guess first one is the terms of changing the character of the neighborhood considering that both the north and south have multif family housing. I'm not sure how that really houses a

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drastic change at this point, but I also agree about the second comment about the second comment regarding the palms that does prove to be will prove to be a nuisance and would like to propose a look into that vegetative wall or some type of

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green buffer that won't intrude on its neighboring properties. So maybe a climbing the climbing vine or some type of plant buffer that won't I guess overhang on the >> So that would be like a vine on the facade of the building

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>> probably but behind the side of the building or some type of vegetative >> green wall >> a green wall exactly. >> Okay. So >> on both both sides >> on both I would say both sides since both both neighbors are losing their access to green I mean not access to

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green space but their view of green space that was once a open lot. So I think just having a plain st wall versus the vegetative green wall there. So, point of clarification, is it

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zone multiple or is it single family? Then >> multiple >> multiple family. >> Okay. So, I think we're the design is beautiful. I really like it. Uh but given everything that Miss Livian has said, I'm I'm in agreement

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with her as well. So, >> I don't find a problem with the design. Yeah, they they could have designed it this way as a just put one unit instead of two and it would look exactly the same. >> It's this is just a tricky zoning in in

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an area where this is what they're allowed and and what we're >> what they're asking for between the lot area and the lot width if we it can't be built without those. So, it's would always be vacant. >> Yeah. >> Without that.

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Um, and I looked at it and I Vilio luckily explained it to you and I I studied it and they're really not asking to build anything bigger or anything. Um, >> I had a question about the gate in the front facade to the board if if there was too much wood in the front facade.

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Would would it be nice to change that to a different material or do we like the consistency of that? Um, that was one one question. And also in the rear yard, there is a it's covered. There's a rear yard space that's

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covered. And it looks as it's if it's open to and I'm addressing this to the architect if you're still listening. Um it looks as it's open to the the lobby. Are there are there any doors or anything? Or is the the backyard that's

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that's covered? Is that an open space um with the bike storage and so forth? Can you explain that a little bit? >> Yes, if we can look at the presentations. Um,

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>> page 11. >> Um, and we go up to the to the floor plans. Slide 11. >> This one >> there. There. Let's stop it there. >> Um, yes. There is no there is no gate

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that prevents uh the residents to go uh down to the rear yard. Uh it's all open, completely open and with free movement. And the the only gate we have is a main

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gate at the very front uh of the property line there. >> That's all we have. That's the that's the only access uh control and of course the the rollup door for the parking >> which is in the front front of the

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building. >> Yeah. Which is on the five feet front. Okay. Um, have you used the architectural concrete method you're proposing for the sidewalls? That's the the stucco version

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of that and have you seen it successfully done? >> Yes, we have uh two or three ways uh to do it. Actually we have been using uh

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like a cladding uh material from Constantino dcton >> could be looks like a big concrete um uh slabs that is going to be clinging to to the walls and it's seamless. I mean,

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we at least we try to to make it seamless and make it look like a like an architectural uh rough concrete. >> Okay. Um this >> Yeah. Um, so

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I I I think I want to address specifically um the comments made by the residents because we as a board see this project today, but the residents surrounding the project live with it the rest of their life or as long as they stay in the

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neighborhood. And then I'd like to speak about the design um and take off from what Adam mentioned just so Mrs. Pacion that lives to the north is concerned with the height of the proposed building uh proposed residence. U the height is

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actually lower than the building that is to the north where she's at. That is a five-story building currently and this ends up being a threetory uh with a rooftop and I'm sure with higher ceilings, but it is no higher than the

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fivestory building to the north. Am I correct in that? Okay. Um, as to Miss Damonte that lives on Second Street, um, concerns about the setback, as we heard from, uh, Roelio Madan, they are meeting

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the setback requirements for the sides, which is 5T, the front, which is um, uh, 10 ft and 5T as well. >> 5T as well, I'm sorry, and the back which is 10 ft. They are not encroaching into those side areas. They're not

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asking for encroachment into those areas. Um, as to the debris from the palms on the side, it's a tall building compared to the site that Mr. Monty lives in. So, you in order to break up

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that wall of three stories. Um, you need to put something high to break up the wall and palms do that. If you put up a tree in a 5-ft setback, it becomes very difficult. Uh palm prms do fall. It depends on the palm that they plant, but

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they do fall and they fall all over Miami Beach into our neighbors yard from our own palm frrons and their ne and neighbors into my palm into my yard. Um but it it doesn't seem to be an issue

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that we can address or that even the city can address. Um, as to the uh comments from Miss Esquil um from that lives in the courts, the courts was done back in the early 90s,

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finished um sometime in the '9s as well. And um you know, it's a beautiful area. Um as well as what Mr. Mitchell said, "We are not increasing or this project is not being allowed to increase its um

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unit size or its lot coverage or its um setbacks. You know, it's just unfortunately at some point back in the maybe 20s or 30s, the lot that this property occupies that's being proposed

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to us was sold off without going through the city. And so this lot ends up being smaller than any other lot that would reasonably be uh built and developed on. Um so we hear your concerns. You are in

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a um multifamily residential area. It is not single family residential as you have many multifamilies surrounding you. And unfortunately, um, as time goes, they'll be even probably your own lots may end up being

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sold and developed by you or by someone else to a much higher uh development than what you currently occupy to the east and to the west. Um, as to the design, I I agree with Adam.

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Uh, I think when I look at the front, it's a nice design, but it's it's too much in my face. It's too too much wood. It's too much of a block of wood. So, if something can be broken up there, maybe with the garage door that's on the

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bottom, I think uh and I don't know what it would be. Um, I'm not an architect, but it's just too much of a wood block to me. Um, and I think something with the garage door, um, could maybe soften

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it up. So, I think that would, um, be an improvement to the design to the front of the building in my point of view. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, does anyone want to make a motion? And

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is it is it possible to have a Have the ownership revert back to speaking with neighbors regarding landscaping? >> No. >> No. You can't you can't require require

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that as a condition of of approval, >> but we can require that maybe I don't know if the architect is still on or the lady that's presenting here uh representing the owners here today. Um, can

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>> can we uh request that they continue to another meeting in the future and come back if the board so desires as a whole? Cuz so far it was only Adam and I with a with a problem of the frontage come back with um a revision to the front that is

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less blocking of wood. Is that possible? >> Absolutely. Yes, >> we can require it or the architect has to require uh deferment to continuence to another meeting. >> No, no. If you if you're not comfortable approving it and you'd like to the

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architect to make changes, that's within your purview to continue the item to a future meeting. >> Yeah. As opposed to denying the application. >> Yes. >> Can we can we include reviewing the landscaping on the on the side? >> Sure. >> Yeah. and and recommending

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>> and recommending that they speak with neighbors. >> I wouldn't include a recommendation about about speaking with neighbors or >> chair. Can I show a recommendation possible? >> Uh, sure. Let's >> So, this is a >> I don't know if the camera can zoom into

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my laptop here. >> There [laughter] you go. >> The landscape architect. >> Fantastic. Here's an example of a possible design that could be done to prevent the palm frrons from falling onto I know even the barrel tile roofs get cracked with these pumps fall on

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them. So here's an alternative solution to something like this that could be incorporated into the design >> as well. >> Power of AI >> what aquil said about running stainless steel cable and vines and things. >> Well, that's not uh that's something different, right? This is planted versus

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>> it'll be cheaper than a vegetative wall, but I I don't know if this will be that much cheaper, but >> well the other the other side doesn't has the ramp. So there's nohere to plant anything. So those people are also looking back there. >> I think stainless steel cable with the vine. >> Yeah. >> Climbing vine of the wall would create a

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green buffer. Not necessarily a whole buffer, but breaks it a little bit. >> Breaks it up and make >> to the is your landscape architect online? >> I had mentioned to the owner that the landscape architect should be Yeah. I mean, if I recall correctly, I

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think that those cypress trees do need a lot of sun. So, I I mean, I don't know if um >> we're going to get sun. >> Yeah, we'll get sun there today, but until such time that something is built to the east and to the west, there will be no sun on those walls, on those

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sides. But that may be f a year from now. It may be 10 years, 20 years from now. But at least for now, it softens the >> Yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. And the consideration is to the the lower scale. >> Yeah. >> The lower scale of of the adjacent

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properties, I think, is is the is the mention. >> We motion. >> Did you already? >> So, this can't be on the um west side because there's a ramping on that side. Yeah. Okay. >> Looks like it or we might be able to get binds or something,

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>> but yeah. Get something else on the on on each of the sides to show some accommodation or consideration >> for the neighbors to the east and west. >> It can be towards the the rear portion of the west side beyond the walkway.

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>> Okay. >> Which is which is I think where the palm trees were proposed. >> You want to summarize that? >> Okay. So, I make a motion that we continue for a future meeting to be set by the um

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owner of DRB25 1099 at 9352nd Street. Um >> yeah. >> And can can we put it to a date certain because otherwise it would require >> Okay. And they can they can move

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forward. Okay. to the September >> um >> September 11th >> September because August we're >> we're not meeting so September >> uh 11th of 2026

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and to um when they come back to look at the facade specifically possibly the garage door and the landscaping on both sides. the east and west of the

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property. >> That's good. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> I'll second. >> And I'm sorry, you had a recommendation on the so the garage for it to be >> and I I personally I leave that up to

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the architect. That's his I feel it's his responsibility and job, his building, his design. But to me, uh, Adam made a mention, maybe it can be done with the garage door. To me, it's just too much wood in the front. It just looks it's too

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too bold. >> Yeah. >> Um, so something to break up the the wood, whether it be in another location. Adam mentioned the garage door. I agree. I think that's a possibility. >> Okay. All right. We have a motion to continue

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and we've provided some direction to the to the architect. >> I second that. >> Second by Mr. Pies. All those in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? No. Motion passes. The item will be continued to the September 11th meeting. Thank you. >> We're hanging.

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That's >> okay. Like in the drawings they have >> we don't we haven't added >> to add that. >> Okay. Can we can

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>> Yeah, you can add >> Okay. >> I was asking could I also like the planters landscape >> on the roof that the the landscaping can overhang on the roof? >> Yeah. You can tell to >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll add that to our

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discussion. I think we have enough direction where we can we can >> continue. Yeah. Continue. All right. >> Mr. Chair, >> uh just for the record, um it is 11:00. I have a hard stop at 1. >> Okay. And we just lost one member.

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>> Yes. >> So, >> so uh >> let's continue. Let's continue. >> Um, can you read the next item? >> Yes. The next file is DRB 261161 FKA DRB 24 1072 29972nd

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Street. This application has been filed requesting modification to a previously approved design review approval for the construction of a new five-story community complex with parking garage, library, community center, aquatic center, fitness center, retail,

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multi-purpose fields, and jogging track. Specifically, the applicant is proposing changes to the materials, design elements, landscaping, and other architectural features. >> And who is >> there? Okay. Um, so this is um this is

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for the North Beach Community Center um which is located on 72nd Street in what is currently a parking lot. The project was previously approved by the board on May 15th. Um the applicant then came back on April 16th proposing some

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changes. The board approved the changes to the building itself. Um so that included changes to some of the materials um some of the uh the the the architectural features um and and the structure itself. That was all approved.

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However, the board continued the site plan and the art and public places which is intended to screen the parking garage uh to the June 11th meeting. Uh the applicant requested a continuence to this meeting and they have since made several revisions uh to the plans based on the direction from the board. The

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direction of the board called for activation of the open space on the northeast corner, improving connectivity and visibility of the northeast corner of the building. Uh look for opportunities to create seating and community gathering opportunities in the northeast and southeast corners of the site and study the color of the art um

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on the garage screening in particular the green colors. Um so the applicant has submitted some revised plans. Uh the revised plans are intended to address the concerns of the board. Uh they incorporates additional seating areas in the northeast, central east, and

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southeast portions of the open space that front Collins Avenue. Um they removed some of the smaller shrubs and trees in the northeast corner of the site which improves the visibility to the retail area and to the seating areas immediately adjacent to the retail area.

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However, they did keep the um the larger specimen trees which provide shade to the users of those seating areas. Um, additionally, they provided some renderings that show these seating areas. So, it's very clear, the board had some questions as to how these areas would look. Um, and it's very clear that

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there will be direct views to the retail area on the northeast portion of the site. Um, the seating areas will will be available to patrons of those of those businesses as well as people that are just wanting to enjoy the park. Um, and it provides a significant improvement.

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So, I I I think the the comments were wellreceived and I and I think it significantly enhances the site plan. Um, regarding the art and public places and the garage screening, uh, the applicant provided three additional options to to replace that previously proposed green color. There

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specifically, there were two large triangles that had a um a light lime green color. Uh, the applicant has proposed three shades of blue. Uh, ranging from a darker to a lighter. staff is most comfortable with option two, which is a middle middle shade of

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blue um that that fits in well with the remaining the remaining shades of the mural and and provides a cohesive look. Um overall staff is supportive of the change um and the rest of the changes proposed for the site plan and recommend that the uh that the application be approved subject to the conditions in

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the attached order. And I'll turn it over to the applicant. Um but before we do that, are there any disclosures? >> No. No. Okay. >> Uh morning board members. My name is Herman Fung. I'm the senior project manager with the capital uh improvements

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office. Uh here to talk to talk about the 72nd Street Community Complex project today. Um we have here in person today the water maker Jensen architect uh uh design team with Wolfberg Alvarez and the landscape team uh CGA. And then

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we have um online the uh the artist uh Ailia Mafini. >> Yeah. Alina. Um just to recap what had mentioned um again in 2025 May of 2025 under DRB 241072

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the uh the project was presented and and approved with uh with a few comments. And when we came back in April uh 2026, the uh the project was uh they they asked us to uh address some of the

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comments about the art uh and uh uh uh look at the activation of the open space uh improve some of the connectivity and visibility uh to the to the project and look at some opportunities for uh for for uh creative uh seating. Um, with

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that said, um, the purpose of us being here today is just only, uh, to discuss these items. Um, and with that, >> hi, good morning. Um, my name is Natalia Olivian. I'm with WJ Architects. Um, so our presentation, I want to also just

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thank you for having us back to address your comments. Um I believe your comments were really helpful and actually have really helped the development of the the design of the site for the site plan. Um so our presentation will focus on addressing your comments and also uh continue to

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show how we're balancing all the site constraints, the program requirements as well as how um the goal for the project to create a vibrant uh site plan with connected space for the community. >> [snorts]

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>> Next. So Herman has already addressed this slide. So I'm going to move on to the next. Um so this is our uh site plan showing the previous site plan we presented. It's uh only focusing on the

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uh east side of the project. Um and uh on the right side you have their current site plan and the proposed um and the [clears throat] added seating that we've incorporated into the site. So on the south we have added a seating area that is u accessible um within that um the

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island of and in the center of the multi-purpose. We also added a seating area below the canopy of the trees as well as an added seating area. Um, also accessible off the the running loop and also accessible from Collins Avenue. Um,

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on that north section, we've removed five smaller trees that were not in great condition in order to allow for that seating area to be added and increase visibility. Um the this is a view of the existing conditions of the trees. Um I wanted

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here to show how the existing canopy which will be remaining um will allow for visibility into currently the parking lot what will be the multi-purpose field. Um uh something to note is that the existing stone wall will be removed. So that will also

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increase visibility into that field. So here we have the enlarged um site plan of the south area and here what we're trying to really highlight [clears throat] is all the amenities that we are uh proposing for the project. So we have obviously the on the

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right side we have the tree canopy that we're preserving. Um we also have um item number two which is the seating area at the step of the egress stair the monumental egress stair. Um we also have

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item number three which is an existing retain uh sorry a proposed retaining wall which will be a seat wall which will um uh line the edge the west edge of the multi-purpose field. Item number

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four is the three 30,000 ft multi-purpose field. Um and item number five is a built-in seat wall which we've incorporated into the edge of the facade. Uh the seat wall will be um

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focused in the direction of Collins Avenue and multi-purpose allowing for views and visibility of the activity. Item number six is towards the bottom right. a little hard to find, but it's uh bicycle parking.

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And item number seven is that seating area on the south that I mentioned before located before two below two relocated trees and then in a the center seating area within the

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multi-purpose field. So, here's um this view is showing us looking in the direction in the west direction with Collins Avenue to our back and 72nd Street to our left. Here on the left side, you can see the added seating area which is focused and

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directed towards the multi-purpose field. This seating area would be accessible from directly from the plaza and which is accessible from the sidewalk. Um beyond that seating area you have the um the the stair the

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elevated plaza platform sorry seating area which is integrated into that egress stair and then behind um that on the side of the uh multi-purpose field you have that seat wall retaining wall which is a seat

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wall as well and then behind that you've got the builtin built-in seating area along the edge of the building. Here we have uh the north uh enlarge plan of site plan. Again, showing some of the uh conditions that we just

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reviewed. Uh continuing up into this the northern section of the site plan. Um on the uh on the top north, as Emil Roelio mentioned, we've got uh the specimen trees, the two specimen trees that we will be uh maintaining. And then uh but

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we have removed two we have removed five of the trees that were previously located in this area in order to incorporate that seating area. So number two is um the elevated plaza steps again integrated into that

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monumental egress stair but allowing for room for people to sit and gather and really experience the surrounding activities. Item number three is the continuation of that retaining wall seat wall which really encourages people to spectate

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what's happening on the multi-purpose field but also for the users of the multi multi-purpose field to rest and and and relax. Number four again is the multi-purpose field continued into the north. Um and

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then number five is the the plaza. It's 2,760 foot plaza with seating area for 184t 84 people. The area has uh room for tables and chairs and seating really to complement the retail space that is

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adjacent. Number six, um again more bicycle parking on that northern area over here. And then number seven, we've already talked about it's that bench uh bench seating area which is really nested with

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between the proposed vegetation, the running loop and um [snorts] and the trees around it. So it'll be a really nice shaded area for someone to take a rest and relax. It's also accessible from the sidewalk from this path right

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here. And then number eight is the running loop. Again, it's a 10-ft wide running loop that continues all the way around the the site and encourages jogging, walking, and just other recreational activities.

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So, um here you have a view. This is a view looking towards the west with Collins Avenue to our back, 7 uh 73rd Street on the right. This view really focuses on how the running loop intersects with the plaza entrance, the

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landscape, the two the two existing trees that will remain and the visibility of the retail space um and the plaza activity. This is a view standing on the running loop looking towards the west again with

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uh 73rd on the right and Collins to our back. Here we have that ma that egress monumental egress stair and um to the right of it you have that um added seating area with benches and the running loop with the uh seat wall

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adjacent to it for um users and uh city uh citizens to be able to walk and take a rest pit from their activities. This is a view uh looking south with 73rd to our back and Collins Avenue on our right. Again, the the two specimen

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trees and the views out to to Collins and the band shell beyond. This is the plaza for 184 occupants allowing for tables and chairs and really for any activities that could could pursue within the the space and the and the

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field. Again, an example would be a Starbucks or some sort of restaurant that could occupy those retail spaces. And this is our view uh looking north from the running loop. Again, to the right, you have that multi-purpose field with the seat wall that follows and

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turns to the to the east. Um you have Collins to your right. Um 73rd is beyond. So this is that again that monumental stair with the builtin built-in platform for allowing for seating and people to gather the retail

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space to the left activating that plaza with tables and chairs strewn throughout as where possible. So that concludes the portion of our com addressing our comments our s uh site plan comments. So um now we will move on

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to the screen colors. We do have our artist um online. I believe she's online um to to speak to the to the the design. Um so one thing um I would like to

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mention is that um the R was um the the comment was to explore the color scheme for the R with particular to the green component in that triangle piece. Um our response we studied the artist studied

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alternate color options as Roelio has mentioned. We did maintain the overall color palette of the blues um because we felt it was important to one maintain the artist vision but also stay within the concept that she had originally

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created for the waterways and reflection. So with that I'd like to uh allow Elena to speak to her proposed options. >> Hi everybody. Can you guys hear me? >> Yes. >> Hi. Good morning. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing

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but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> Uh thank you everybody for allowing me to uh present our exploration of possible colors. Um just as a reminder to everybody, this is a art screen um

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for the garage um of the project that transforms a facade into a playful, uplifting experience inspired by water and movement. Um, we have vibrant aqua tones and energetic patterns that animate the

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architectural surface, turning the building into an engaging visual presence in the community. Next, this is the original proposal uh day, next, and night. Um the desire was to

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create alternatives and consider them um so that we could propose something to replace the green color of the two triangles and we run three alternate schemes in the shades of blue. This is option

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one. You can see is a darker shades of blue that stills connect to the idea of the colors and water and vibrancy of the facade. This is a day view. And next the night view option two.

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It's a medium color shade of blue as well. Um this is a day next night view. And finally a third scheme on the lightest side of um the aqua colors.

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This is a day view. Next the evening view. And this is again to explore uh possible alternatives to colors uh to choose from. Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Do we have any uh anybody else speaking or any >> Sorry. >> Anybody else speaking? >> No, that's it. >> Okay. Uh anybody online? Okay. Um so we're going to open the public hearing. If you're online and you'd like to speak, please raise your hand.

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Now I will note that uh board member Assion is is uh still online is online so he will be able to participate in the discussion. Um I don't see any hands raised online. >> Okay. Anybody in the public here?

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>> No. Okay. Open close the public hearing >> to the board like to start. Go ahead. I can say it's definitely a drastic improvement. I think it would need that much improvement before, but I still think

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this is drastically helps us understand, especially the re retail component and how it will look with uh pedestrian seating. And I definitely appreciate and compliment that you guys added that detail with actually showing, you know,

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a storefront that how it'll be used. And um it's much improved. I have no >> changes or comments to say about it, but definitely thank and appreciate that you guys added this detail because now I can

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fully grasp how the space will look. I mean, yeah, I have no nothing else to add to it. It looks much better. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um I agree. I think I think this is a a very nice improvement. Um, thank you for

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incorporating the different types of seating. I I think that's that's um really I that was a big comment obviously from last time and um I think that the flow works a lot nicer and I I like you know you have different varying types of seating and you know movable

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and immovable. So I think that all works really nicely. Um, I did have one question because you said earlier in the presentation you said that there was a the stone wall being removed from where the fields are. Was that what you had originally proposed or is that like an

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ex? Okay. So, so is it just open with trees? Okay. Very nice. >> Okay. I like that. Um Okay. Yeah. And then I guess speaking to the um art just I'll I'll say my preference here. I

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never had an issue with the original art. So, I think that the original art is still my favorite. Um, and then number two is is my second favorite. >> Yeah, I like to say the same thing. I had no issue with the color, but option two is >> too.

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>> Um, so yeah, thank you. Thank you. >> So, um, thank you for your presentation. Um, I, um, I agree as far as the mural. Um, I never had a problem with the green. I'm okay with the green. Um, and

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but if it changes uh from the green, then option number two is is also very nice. Um, I think, however, I still prefer the original. Um, as to the additional seating, I know that we

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requested additional seating and and it's good to have the additional seating incorporated into the park. My concern is the um how the seating is going to be used by the homeless. And we do have um

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a problem in that area. At least we did. Um um we've had homeless sleeping in the s slides of the children's playground across the street in the um playground between Dickens and Harding. We've even

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encountered um a person that was um dead on the baseball field when we opened up the park in the morning. And this was some years back, but the area has improved. However, it's not improved to the point where I still do not have a

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concern with the homeless use of all this seating area. So somewhere along the way um you need to work with parks and recreation or the city in making sure that it does not become um a haven

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later on for um the homeless um population. Um as to the wall, I know that we talked about the wall last time. I think it's like a coral rock wall or some sort and it's not very high. It's maybe 2 ft high and it runs along

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Collins Avenue. I'm in favor of keeping that wall because if you're using that field with a ball, that ball is going to run and I'm afraid that it's going to run into Collins Avenue. >> There there is a picket fence that we're

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including. It's further towards the outside. Okay. >> That wall um would interfere with the the play fields. So, >> that's fine. Uh that would be fine. Well, thank you. Those are my comments. Anything from over there?

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>> I'm good. I'm good. >> Okay. Um >> I I just for the record, I like I like the green as well, but I do like design number two as well, but other than that, the seating I was looking at the statistics for homelessness. Uh Miami

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Beach has done great for eliminating homeless. Um it says that at our last record we had 93 in the total city. So that's a record low. So just just FYI. >> Thank you. >> Um thank you again. I definitely

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really like the seating and now the views. We can see what's really happening in the northeast there. Um I just had a couple of questions. Um, is there between the running track and the sidewalk on the northeast corner, is

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everything in flush flush condition and it's a material change? >> Um, specifically kind of looking at the the render one and render two. Can we bring back the presentation? >> Uh yeah, just because there's one other

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point I just wanted to bring up to the board. Page eight and nine. >> I'm not sure how to go back. >> Can we bring up page eight and nine of the presentation? >> PJ CJ. >> Well, while we wait there, there is a

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material change between the running loop and the sidewalk. There's also a transition change between the materiality for the plaza um and where they kind of intersect with the running loop. So we wanted to make sure that that intersection was clearly defined.

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>> So the the corner swath in the track is going to be a different material indicating where you cross over the track. Trying to guide people to cross over the track >> a kind of a a frame. >> Please use the laptop >> section. Oh.

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Um, how do I go back? I go I pressing the button, but it's not going back. Oh, here we go. >> The the arrow key. Are you pressing the arrow key on the laptop? >> Oh, sorry. No, I was pressing the >> Good job. >> Thank you. Was it this one? This being

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>> uh the one before this? Um >> sorry. If you go to the plan, you can uh >> right here. So that band in the corner is a different material in the track. Okay, that makes sense. And I guess the

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reason why I'm asking is is there a need for that for the other stair or are you trying to direct people from the sidewalk to use that to come in even though the stair going up is is in a different location? So like around where the number seven is.

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>> Oh, where the where the number eight? Oh. Um we could we could um I I think we were trying to really focus on the the plaza entry. uh this is more of a secondary but we can certainly look at integrating. >> It was just a question. I just I I like

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the the move to do that. I think otherwise people sort of stand there like do I right >> and it'll help not wear the the track as much. Um the other thing I noticed is what in this rendering this view of the corner which is render one on on page

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eight. Um, this is the only view that I see 10-ft spacing light posts. And does the track have this everywhere? Is do we see this anywhere else? I'm just I'm trying to imagine an evening situation and is

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this going to be is this a lot of light right at the sidewalk here almost taking away from the the what's behind it in in a in a nighttime situation. I don't I just noticed that and I know you need lighting on the track, but

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>> could could it be lower light and could could those be more of a path light type type situation? But also I'm asking are they all the way around the building? What is what is going on in terms of traffic? >> They do they do continue around the the north um and the south. Um I think on

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the west we've got um we do have slightly higher lighting, but we we do need it. It's in order to meet that um that light requirement that we need for just

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safety. So um we can look at the spacing. Um if we were to change to something a little lower like a ballard which we have looked at you you are increasing um increasing or adding more you're going to need more

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ballards because the light spread is is smaller. So you're going to increase the amount. >> It also increases cost something we've got to balance. Um so we can certainly take a look at it in the future. But I just wanted to add that um several months ago the the police had approached

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us to talk about the lighting during the day. Uh you guys spoke about the homeless. During the day when when this when these spaces are activated, you have a lot of people. The the homeless uh tend not to come out during the day there there are activities in the evening is when police have said in this

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area um the homeless sit issue is the most prevalent. So they had access to try to you know without uh producing too much light uh that might have interfere with like the turtles you know higher up above on the lower areas

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they asked us to kind of light it up so that when the patrol cars come through if there are anybody you know sleeping on a bench you know they could address it cuz a lot of the times the the the the police activity in in the evening it's not foot traffic it's more vehicular so they drive by they wanted to be able to have it you know uh

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illuminated if if I missed anything when we met officer. >> Yeah, the I think what the police had said is the best deterrent is lighting and just being able to see it from this the the street when they're driving past. Um so I think illumination is

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really the key balancing with the turtle requirements which is the complete opposite. [laughter] >> Is there a way to layer layer the lighting? >> Sorry. Is there a way to layer the lighting though that if the path is low and then what they're they're not

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worried about homeless people on the run path? It's obviously behind that. So I just I just have a thing with pole lights and and this is I want this to be as attractive corner as possible. When I see these, I think like if these could

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be ballards and then you're going to have another type of lighting behind which is could be recess lights or poles and actually brings more attention to the commercial space behind it. Um I would think that would be nicer. I don't know if the ballards then are in

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everywhere else around the wrap and is that or do you switch back and is that weird to have that in a running path having different type of lights right >> throughout the project? I don't know. I just focused on this view being like, why are we putting it lights at 10 feet

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when you step back from across the street? You're you're going to then those will glare in what you're looking at at the commercial space there. So, I don't know. I would maybe suggest that's looked at. >> Yeah, we can look at at that area. Maybe

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putting some ballards in that corner so you don't know. >> I know there'll be warm light, but it's still I'm trying to get rid of light holes everywhere. [laughter] >> Even if they shine down, which they're required to because of the turtles, it still you feel will conflict with the

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retail behind. >> I think >> I think ballers will look better. I think low ballers that that as long as you know, >> okay, >> they can wash enough light on the on there. just I think layering of lighting is always more successful and Ballard's

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work for that. Um, but I'll let you guys work on that. Um, >> yeah. >> And just cuz we're all weighing in on the the art, >> it seems as I studied this, it seems like only the triangles really changed, right? >> Okay. Um,

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>> the colors of the triangles. >> Yeah, just the colors of the two triangles changed. So, I've I like I like two. Um, but there's only us, so we can vote. [laughter] That's all I have.

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Thank you for these changes. >> Do we do we need >> do we need to vote on the color of the triangles or we leave it on? >> We our draft recommendation says option two, but if you like the original color better, that would be something you would want to vote vote on. Otherwise,

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if you just vote to vote per staff's recommendation, it'll go to option two. >> Okay. How many want green and how many want option two? I guess that's that's the toss, right? >> I mean, I'm I'm okay with either. I

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don't know if it's if between let the applicant decide between us. >> If it influences you at all, the artist prefers the green. >> That's still her favorite. I said let let the applicant decide and then we can offer two option two but let the applicant decide what they want to do.

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>> The artist decide well [snorts] the artist is going to decide on [clears throat] green. [laughter] >> So if anybody's opposed to green it's just the time to speak up. >> I'm okay with >> green it is then.

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>> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> So, can we >> um make a motion to approve DRB >> 26-1161 and DRB

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24 106 1072 at 29972nd Street um with the recommendation to allow the artist to select the color of the mural triangles. We

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voted on green. Did we? Okay. >> Um that's it. Do we don't >> Can you add about the lights? >> Um uh yes. And that we uh consider different lights in the norththeast pathway. >> Ballards

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>> um and possibly Ballards um in that area. I also add one thing too [clears throat] that at the retail sections that they looking to add in >> wall sconces for lights too just to make it more >> enticing like entry rate for the retail

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spot. So wall sconces wall sconce light fixtures. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. >> Yeah. Wall mounted. Sorry. And really the Ballard's suggestion [clears throat] um may also apply to other areas within

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the walkway or the or the runway the track. >> Yeah, I think >> so just take a look at that and see >> um where else it may be applicable. >> Is that something that we we just make the note and then we work with staff on? >> Yes, I think so. Yeah.

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>> So, so basically consider Ballards at the entry points into the into the walkway. >> Yeah. >> So, the the was sconces is for the >> retail area. >> I'll second that. We need a second. Okay, we have a motion by Miss

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Bhutavali. We have a second by Miss Leuen. All those in favor? I >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. >> Right. Congratulations. Look, >> have a good day. >> Does that mean this is finally happening? [laughter] >> I know, right?

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>> Yeah. Just to confirm F um FPL has not agreed to underground the wire on Harding, right? Okay. [laughter] >> That is out of our control. I would love love love to be able to do that. But >> yeah, as discussed uh in the last

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meeting, um that that was a a consideration at one point. Um we had it was a cost issue. It was it was too much to uh and and the system that you see now, the 14 poles that you see now that were installed what, four years ago, that was the product of what was

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what was uh approved for us to proceed with. So, >> and they do understand that that's a major evacuation road. >> Well, >> we understand your road. >> They they need to compare the cost to the income they're getting from all the

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properties on Miami Beach and maybe it won't be won't look as as bad. And as many people may complain about having to deal with the city of Miami Beach permitting and building department, planning and uh public works and all of

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that, um FPL does not stay behind and neither does FDA. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Yes. Let's continue on the next item. The next the next item is DRB 261 1167

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aka DRB22083 tier 1 Western Marino Drive. This application has been filed requesting modifications to a previously approved design review approval for the construction of a new two-story residence including variances to reduce the required setbacks for a roof deck

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that is currently under construction. Specifically, the applicant is requesting variances to further reduce the required setbacks for a roof deck to exceed the height and openings requirements for fences to reduce the required front yard and interior side

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setbacks to allow the construction of a covered parking structure. to exceed the maximum walkway and and step width to allow wider steps in the required yards and to reduce the required front setback and exceed the

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maximum width for the proposed driveway and including more one or more waiverss. Okay, so this is uh an application that was uh originally approved back in 2022. Um the DRB at that point approved a a

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single family home on this lot. um including several variances um and several waiverss um back in 2022. Um the applicant is now uh the the home is currently under construction. The applicant is wishing to make some

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changes to the home. Um and so the applicant is here before the board to ask for some additional variances um and some some design modifications to the design that was originally approved. Um, so, um, just for for reference, the home

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is a relatively narrow lot. It's located on West San Marino Drive. The typical corner lots on San Marino Drive have a width of 60 ft. This lot has a width of 50 ft. So, it is a it is a narrow lot. It complies with the minimum size requirements, but just barely. Um, so

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it's it's just there. And so, that's the reason why they received a lot of the variances that they received back in 2022. and it's and it's a big part of the reason as to why we're supportive of these additional variances that they're requesting. Um so the applicant is uh first

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requesting a waiver for the proposed fence and wall design that does not provide open pickets uh with minimum spacing of 3 in above 4 ft in height. So let me uh describe that. So the code requires that when you are building a

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fence on the side yard and the rear yard that if you're measuring that fence from the future adjusted grade which is higher than the sidewalk elevation by right you can build 4T solid and then above that you have to include pickets.

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The code allows for the DRB to wave that requirement so they can have the fence be fully solid. In this case, um the addition the surrounding yards and the surrounding lots are being raised to the future adjusted grade. Um so staff is supportive of the granting of these

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waiverss. We don't expect any negative impacts. That code provision is really when you have a new lot that is being raised higher than the older lot so that there is some greater compatibility. In this case, there are no compatibility issues. So staff is supportive of the

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granting of those waiverss. Um and that's for um the the the lot has different types of fencing and different gates that are proposed throughout. So this is for specific modules B, C, and D and the gate on the east east side of the property and the solid wall on the

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north side of the property within the required rear yard and side facing a street. So staff is supportive of the granting of that waiver for all portions of the fences. Um additionally, um the applicant is proposing some design changes. They're proposing

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incorporation of wider window headers in black paint similar to aluminum. New glass railings for the balconies to replace the previously approved black aluminum railings. Um the north facade with a new wall in black tile covering the previously approved open frame at

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the roof level and the new four pane sliding glass door window configuration at the second level. Um the res the the um revised design also includes changes to the materials. So there was a previously approved synthetic wood cladding that

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will be replaced by a black tile. There's a previously approved painted gray stucco that's going to be replaced with a light gray paint similar to uh micro cement and oxidized micro cement. Um, and then the previously approved painted Abby stone stucco is to be replaced by an oxidized micro um, also

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by microized micro cement and light gray paints uh, similar to micro cement. And then the proposed oxidized metal and galvanized wire painted um, in black for uh, for the fence finish. So they're they're changing the materials for the fences and they'll they'll describe that

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in more detail. It's it's it's a little difficult to describe the the changes, but you'll you'll see them in the in their presentation. Um, as far as the variance goes, the variances go, the first variance that we're they're requesting is regarding the roof deck. Um, the allowable hatable

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roof deck is required to be set back 10 ft. The applicant is proposing that a portion of that roof deck be set back 2'6 in. Um, given the narrowness of the lot, um, if they provide that full setback, um, there would be a very, uh,

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the the the deck would be of minimal width. Um, and this is going to be in an area that doesn't uh impact any surrounding neighbors. So, staff is supportive of the granting of this variance. They're requesting uh two variances of the um front setback and

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the um side interior setback. And this is to be able to build a carport in the front. The code would allow them to build a carport if it's made of canvas and pipe. That obviously is not the most attractive type of carport. So, they're requesting setback variances um to allow

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for a um a front setback of 1 foot6 in and a side interior setback of 5'4 in um in order to be able to provide a a a more modern um architectural carport that that will be compatible with the

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design and and and enhance the design of the home and provide some covered parking that the that the design of the home currently doesn't have given the narrowness of the lot. it's very difficult for them to be able to build a garage um on the site. Then they're requesting um another

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variance related to the width of walkways. Um the code allows for the maximum width of walkways to be 44 in and it does allow for those portions to be increased to 5 ft. Um in this case, the applicant um is proposing to construct a a walkway that has a width

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of 8'2 in. Um and the um width of the walkway is on the side facing a street which is the most the the the longest facade and so the proposed width is compatible with the design of the facade. Um the the limit of 5 ft does

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present a practical difficulty to the applicant because it would require that that they provide a walkway that is not consistent with the width of that facade. Um so staff is supportive of the granting of that variance. The next variance is related to the driveway. Um

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given the narrowness of the lot, um they would be limited to have a wide way with a maximum width of 15 ft. Um they are proposing a variance to allow them to increase that width um at 23 to 23 feet

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10 in. Um and so given that they would like to have a two two spaces um with the where the carport is located um that is a that is a reasonable request and staff is supportive of the granting of the variance. Um so they are they are requesting five variances in total.

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Staff is supportive of the granting of those five variances and staff recommends that the application be approved subject to the conditions in the attached order. And so we can >> um before we turn it over, are there any disclosures? >> And and were you were you sworn in this

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morning? >> Yes. Uh hello, I'm Juan Subuyaga. I'm the architect of this project. >> Okay. >> This is >> I believe Pil came after the swearing in originally. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Lord, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, >> I do.

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>> Thank you. >> Um let me follow up on the explanation that Roelio had. Um, you know, it sounds like a lot of things, but really we're not. The building is built, the house is built. It complies with setbacks on the

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interior, on the street side, on the front and the rear. It complies with height. It complies with uh lot coverage, open space. It complies with all that. We're not asking anything related to the

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main zoning uh regulations. So we're we're asking for uh some materials are going to be changed basically paint. >> Yeah. It's just paint the design >> and then the the fences, you know, we're

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we're asking to in a portion only which covers the side and the rear where the pool is. We're asking for the fence to be solid all the way to the 7 ft. Seven feet is the allowable height, but three

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feet is four solid and three uh with picket like like he explained. We're asking for that portion covering the pool to be solid. And then we're asking for the roof deck to be slightly bigger. We're talking 30

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square feet bigger. I mean, nothing really. >> Did you have a PowerPoint that you would like to load up just to >> Yeah. uh >> might make it easier for everybody to >> we we submitted the uh >> we can go to page four to >> the presentation if they could put it.

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Yeah, here we go. >> So the laptop keep going please. >> Should I go here? >> Yeah, you can control it. >> Yeah. >> All right. You can control it there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So um basically I mean

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the the first thing is not really a variance. It's the change of materials. It's a revision to the previously approved DRB >> design, >> materials and colors. But again, the windows are the same. The house is exactly the same. We're not

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modifying window openings. I mean, he mentioned the window frame. Yes, the frame, but the window sizes the same. We're not asking there's no changes to the structure of the house, to the volume of the house. So, um,

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>> we are in 80% of construction. So, >> and the house is built. Yeah, 80. It says here 75%, but it's really more like 85%. The house is practically finished. >> I have the materials here, the colors, if you guys want to see it.

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>> Yeah, if you like to review the colors, this is that tile thing. These things are heavy. >> Yeah. >> But, uh, >> like in the Yeah. Explain. >> Might be best if you went through the presentation so we they can see where

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you're what you're referring to. >> Yes. >> Yes. Um [snorts] let's go to page. >> This is a nice a nice tile [laughter] and you have a lot of pages. So keep going through it.

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>> Okay. For instance, this corner at the entrance is going to have this tile, >> right? only the corner. >> Well, you see the dark obviously >> and the back the north.

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How do I do this? Okay, you can see there the corner and can go with this >> down here. Down. >> Okay. the previous one >> here. This mouse is okay.

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>> And the north side which is on top of of the second floor >> that that that's the master bedroom which you see looking towards the pool. So above this sliding doors of the master bedroom is where that

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>> and we are also changing the metal that it was before for glass. >> Mhm. in all the balconies and we are changing the colors uh that was before

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and we are updating a little bit the design and we are going to have this I don't know if you want to say there um this micros like middle. [clears throat]

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>> So basically it's different slightly different materials, slightly different colors, nothing major. >> It's the same palette basically. >> Yes. >> And uh so we are going to use basically these colors.

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>> Please speak into the microphone. Yes, >> we are going to use basically these colors and the black. >> Mhm. Um >> and and this >> this >> that one is very little but >> um

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the reason I I explain I'm trying to simplify the the application is because it seems like a lot of things but it really they're very simple things you know we're not like I said we're not

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uh altering the size of the house in any ways is the same house. >> Yeah, this is the east where you can see the same colors that I show you, >> right? >> And the and the fence on that side that it has to be a little bit solid because

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of the house next door that is in construction as well. >> Mhm. We can show the construction, show the photographs of the uh >> maybe keep us maybe keep going through the through the different variances that you're requesting to to complete the presentation.

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>> Right. Okay. >> Okay. So the number one issue is not a variance is a um a revision to the exterior finishes which we just spoke about. And then there's four variances. There's five items but four variances.

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Correct? >> So the first variance is the rooftop deck. We want to make it 30 feet 30 square feet bigger >> than what it was before. And there you see the area that we grew. This is

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within the roof. We're not increasing the roof. It's just the deck. >> And you can see it here that we are not like >> encroaching or um like bothering any neighbor because we have uh San Marino Drive,

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>> right? >> Um >> then variance number two is the fences. Like I explained before, we like to surround the pool with solid all the way to to the 7 ft,

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which uh the staff approves. And it gives more privacy [snorts] for for the homeowner and more privacy for the neighbors >> as well.

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Um then um variance number three is the carport that Roelio was talking about. That is the one place where we're asking for a setback. It's a it's a separate

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carport. Let's put it on the uh there. So it's a metal structure uh very modern in design as you can see. Yeah, it's more accord according to the house. >> This would be,

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you know, under a separate permit with the structural calculations with everything to because obviously there's going to be uplift, you know, in there. So, it'll be properly structured and that's the way it looks. It's a

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separate structure is separate from the house and I think it enhances the the overall design of the house and it certainly will be a lot better than a >> dirty canvas full of leaves

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which is what happens with canvases. Um, and then item number four is the width the width of the stairs of the of the walkway from um from San

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Marino to the to the house which like he said is the long part of the uh it is this 50 by 120. So this is the long part. This is on the 120 side >> and the maximum allowed is 60 in. And we

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have a Can you show the design of the >> Oh, there. >> Yeah. So, you can see in the floor plan we have different slabs of different widths, you know, going like that like this. And the the biggest one is 8 ft wide.

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>> Yeah. And it's more pro proportional with that of the land. >> They vary from six to 8 ft. Maximum width is 5t. But we're proposing that we believe it's just a better a better entrance, you know,

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>> safer. >> And the last thing is to be able to build the uh the carport on the driveway. Um we need to have a little more width on the paved part of the driveway, which is

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as you can see, you see where the um you see the driveway there. You see that on the bottom part of that curved area? That's that's an additional to the 20 foot total width allowed. We're going to 24 ft.

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Now, even going to the 24 ft, we're respecting the open space >> of 50 >> regulation. So, we meet the open space. We're not violating any of that. we can increase to 24 ft and still comply with

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the open space and basically that's it. >> Okay. Right. That photograph shows those slabs. >> Mhm. >> Those are the those are built as you want them. >> Yes. Those are built on a single beam on

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the center that can't deliver lever to both sides. They're open in between each slot so the rain goes through it. >> But you built it in hopes we would approve it. >> Just just >> Well, I guess so.

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>> That was really a contractor. I almost kill him. >> If you don't, we'll have to cut him. [laughter] >> I can start off if you want. >> We want to see. Is there anybody in public or a waiting room? If uh anybody

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online who'd like to speak, please raise your hand on Zoom. No hands raised. Anybody in the audience that'd like to speak? >> Nope. I think we can close the public hearing if that's okay. >> Okay. All right. Take it away.

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>> Yeah. So, um I commend you um on the design because it is not easy on a lot of that size. >> Very difficult. very difficult to have circulation, to have >> walkways, to have anything, to have the house.

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>> Um, so I commend you for that. I >> I personally like the design very much. I do not um have a problem with the color changes and the material changes, nor the railings on the balconies. I can

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understand that you want to cover the car uh from the heat that we are experiencing and that we have always experienced here. >> Um and I understand that you need to make that driveway a little bit wider in

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order to allow you to walk um out of the car into the home. And I like that it's not reducing the amount of landscaping that's required or green space required >> uh on the property. So, I personally do

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not um have a problem and I I like the design and the selections very much. >> Um, if I could ask a question. I was just flipping through some of the approved um renderings and then the the

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new renderings. Are you are you changing the the landscaping plan at all or because some for example the south view it seems like some palms have been lost and things like that. Is that just so you can show the house and just we just wanted to show the house more but the

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landscape is going to remain the same. >> Okay. >> We have a lot of vegetation which is nice. >> Okay. That's that's what I wanted to hear cuz I feel like that house does need some softening with with the planting. Um, and I just wanted to confirm >> it was designed to like integrate the

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garden with the interior of the house. >> Oh, excellent. >> Yeah, the landscaping is to the design of the house. We want a lot of >> Okay. I just wanted to confirm it was it was just taken out so we could see the the new house. Um, >> okay. Yeah, I I agree. I don't really

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have an issue with the color changes or the um material changes. Um, Adam, I I would kind of defer to you. Do you think that the painting of that this cement painting is, you know, that's going to hold up and and look nice? Um, I I like

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the colors. I think that >> I I mean, I like the material quality on the >> I'm it's painted stucco, so microsmen. I think it'll have a nice texture to it. Um, you know, obviously black is always tough in the sun, so that those the

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black painted areas are the the ones >> Yeah. >> to worry about. Um, it's falling and and things like that. But >> they want to take the risk with it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I like the tile. I like the black tile. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The tile is beautiful.

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>> Yeah. Um, okay. Well, thank thank you. I'm I'm in support. Um, I just wanted to clarify that with the plantings. Thank you. Yeah, >> I have no comment. It looks like good design finished. The changes and finishes look great. So,

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>> thank you. No comment. >> Thank you. >> Number four, >> number three. Could you explain the the issue there? because I'm not I'm not seeing it. Well, variance number three is the the car carport, right?

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Yeah. Um the city allows and this is a very silly rule that's been here for years. They only allow a canvas >> cover with like little aluminum post and

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it's just, you know, terrible. So, we're proposing this structure which is very lightweight but just more solid, stronger and it will not decay like a canvas. the canvas

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in a few months. It looks terrible, you know. So, um because the house needs shadow, >> you know, [clears throat] for the cars. So, so that's why we're proposing that structure.

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>> Have those type of structures been used before? >> I I've not seen a structure of that type before. I've seen uh variances be issued for a more traditional carport with four solid columns and a roof. I've not seen one for for a like a pre-fabricated

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structure such as this. >> Right. >> But it'll be engineered and >> but you're in you're in support of it. >> Yes. Yeah, we're in support of it. The um just for for background, the reason the city has that regulation that it be canvas and pipe is because in the future

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if any work needs to be done in the ride of way, we don't want permanent structures that would be difficult to demolish and repair if something needs to be done to the road. >> Given that this is a there's a couple things here. is a mod modular structure that if it's removed, it could be put

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back and the actual support columns are set back pretty far beyond the ride ofway. So work needs to happen. This type of a structure allows that to happen without too much interference. Um so staff was okay with the granting of of this variance.

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>> Good point. Yes. Thank you. any did you have any good? Um, yeah, it's a nice design, nice changes. I don't think there's anything that they're asking for

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that is ridiculous. Um, I think the roof deck is if you want a little angle, >> right? >> Yeah. >> You can get a chair there. It is a lot of investment for that little piece. >> Um the wall, you know, I know we we we have

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this conversation about retaining walls and and and these fence walls being different heights on different sides of the neighbors, but you're saying the adjacent it won't be 16 feet on on one side for one neighbor or super tall on on >> No, the four houses are brand new.

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>> Yeah. And it complies with the total height which is 7 feet above future um >> great >> grade elevation. [snorts] >> Yeah. The the staff report shows that there's older homes. That's what the the

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property appraiser reflects. These are just homes that are still that are brand new. So it hasn't been the new dates haven't been reflected. But if you go out there it's it's all it's all being red. >> It's all raised. Yeah. And it's a nice fancy fence. Um yeah it's nice project.

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>> Thank you. >> So can we approve them all at once or it has to be individual? >> The design review should be one motion to approve and the the variances can be done one by one. >> So I make a motion that we approve

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um DRB. >> Where am I? 26 >> 26 1167. I crossed it off. Okay. Um for design >> and the waiver >> and the waiver

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>> I'll second. >> Okay. Uh motion by Miss Bavoli, second by Miss Leuen. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. I make a motion that we approve the variances for the roof deck, the covered parking

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structure front setback, the covered parking structure interior side setback, and the steps and walkway leading to the home. >> I'll second that. >> Okay, we have a motion by Miss Buddha,

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second by Mr. Pis. Um, all those in that's to approve all of the variances. Um, >> one through four. Sorry, one through five. >> Five. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, all those in favor? >> I I

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>> Any opposed? >> Motion passes five to zero. Um, so that's that's approved. >> Oh, I Mr. Assion has his hand hand raised. Um, if you'd like to say anything. >> Yeah, I I'm all in favor of uh of the

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variances as as well. I just wanted to bring to note that, you know, here's another situation where we're giving a variance for a roof. I wanted to get an update on how we're doing with uh with that later on after the vote. Same situation with look at the the property of the multif family on second where they did a roof deck and in that

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situation that roof deck was very adequate for that property um which is what it should be on on these homes. So hopefully we get some progress with that. >> Okay. I would just I'll just mention that we transmitted the letter to commission with the recommendations from

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the board. Um so I it's up to the commission if they'd like to um take take that on. >> So Roelio, can you send us or or Alejandro uh email us a copy of that? Absolutely. >> Memo. Thank you. >> We'll forward it to you.

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Is it scheduled to go to commission for uh reading or >> it would be up to a commissioner to sponsor an item. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you guys. >> Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> All right. The item is 2444 Prairie

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uh DRB26 1169 2444 Prairie Avenue. This application has been filed requesting modifications to a previously approved design review approval for the construction of a new two-story single family home that is currently under construction.

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Specifically, the applicant is requesting a variance of for the sum of the sideyards and to exceed the maximum width for walkways including one or more waiverss. Okay, so this is um a home that was originally approved by the DRB in March

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of 2022. Um it went to the DRB because back then it was replacing a pre-1942 home. And back then if you were replacing a pre-42 home, the home the replacement home had to be approved by the DRB. Um the home has since been constructed. Uh the the applicant is not

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requesting any changes to the design. The design follows what was approved by the DRB. Um however, once they went to measure the site, it looks like the the home uh the measurements were off by a fraction of an inch. Um so the applicant

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is here to request a reduction of the sum of the sideyard setbacks by 0.15 ft. That's uh 1 and 1316 of an inch. Um and that's for the required sum of the side yards. Um this is just an error in the

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constructions. It's a it would be a practical difficulty hardship to make the applicant move that by by such a small amount. Uh the impact is negligible. Um so staff is supportive of the granting of the variance. Um the other variance that is being requested

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is is similar to the one we just had in the last application for a wider walkway. Um the applicant um is requesting a variance to exceed by 9 ft 8 in or 116 in the maximum width of a of

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a walkway of 44 in um for the walkway going into the front of the home within the required front setback. Um again given the scale of the home um this is this makes sense for for the architecture and for the design of this home and staff is supportive of the of

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the granting of the variance. Um and so those are the two the two variances that the applicant's requesting and staff is supportive of the granting of the two variances subject to the conditions in the attached order. >> Thank you. I appreciate the introduction. Uh Carlos Margarates with all the offices of Burke Redell,

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Fernandez Larent, offices at 2 in South Biscane Boulevard. Uh I'm joined today uh by uh Chris Pinto from Intelligent Construction. Uh the architect Eduardo Shamash and uh my colleague Mickey Morero and Zachary Fine. Um this is a very I think what I think is a very

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simple application. If I could get the PowerPoint up. Thank you. Um 244 Prairie. This is right across uh from the new Beayshore Park which is a wonderful addition to our city. Uh you see here uh it's right across um as Roel noted this project came before the DRB

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in 2022 I think >> and um got approved and it was uh uh then got a building permit which was approved as well built and uh inadvertently there was a about I think about an inch and a half um deviation on

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the southwest wall that you'll see there um which came a little closer to that proper language is requires us to come here. Uh the other variance which you'll see shortly uh is for the walkway. Uh the walkway was built as approved on the

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master permit. It's just uh you know it's one of those things that where it does need a variance um even if it was approved at the building permit. So we're also need a variance for that one as well. Um kind of just rushing through it because it's I think we think it's a very simplification. This is the DRP

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order from uh 2022. um granting the the original approval for the pre-42 home um the replacement of that home. And then you'll see the walkway at the front in the red box. Uh it's uh it's wide uh but it's really

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kind of a space for uh the door to come in from the fence. Um and kind of it doesn't ramp up. So it doesn't it can't be qualified as an ADA um exception for the walkways which does exist for 5T but since it is stepped uh it's not an ADA

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accessible walkway. Um and then uh on the bottom left you see the variance that we're requesting um that seems to be about an inch and a half or three or three inches depending on which server you're looking at. So um the and here

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again he's on the first and second floor. Uh it's a it's a minimal 15 ft uh variance that we're requesting. Uh this is the walkway in the front. Uh again, it's a 134 in width. Um

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and that's it guys. I don't want to take too much of our time. This is a in our opinion a very simple application but to formally request we're requesting for these two variances um for the uh encroachment onto the into some of the sideyard setbacks on the southwest side

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of the property and the walkway in the front. >> Uh thank you. >> I'll hold time for any rebuttals now. Thank you. >> Anybody online? >> Any expporte disclosures? >> Disclosures. >> Anybody online? If you'd like to speak, please raise your hand.

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>> No hands raised. audience. >> Motion to approve. Discuss. >> Yeah. So, um, yes, I have a motion to approve DRB26-1169, also known as DRB21-0760 at 2444 Prairie Avenue.

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Do you need me to approve? Do we need to do a separate approval for the variances? No. Okay. Well, I think it's just variances >> for the two variances. Okay. >> Okay. >> Second. >> We have a Okay. Motion by Miss

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Bhutakawi. We have a second by Mr. Lester. >> Um, all those in favor? >> Any opposed? >> Motion passes. >> So, Roelio, this brings about a question as we get ready for the next item. Thank you and congratulations. >> That was both applications, right? Both

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varances. Yes. One vote. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Um, you know, we talked, you and I talked one day about um projects that come before DRB and later find themselves needing um to change

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something which amounts to less than a percentage of the total setback or the front, the side, the back, the height, the lot coverage, the unit size that it makes possib that it makes no sense to

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come back to this board. Um take up time of the owner. Cost is tremendous. Take up time of this board when the change is minimal and something that could be approved at staff level. However, the

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commission needs to approve the planning department having the authority to go with this additional percentage of change. Um, is that can you explain it better for the board and is that something that we want to bring back to

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the current commission for approval? >> There there are some cities that authorize their staff to grant administrative variances or or a waiver of a certain percentage be it five or 10% of any numerical standard in the

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land development regulations. Um, the city of Miami Beach, we don't have that. We have to follow the the strict number of the code. we don't have the ability to grant any administrative variances or waiverss or exceptions. Um, that's something that the city commission could consider. The I guess the concern would

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be that if we have that ability, everyone will start to ask for it. So, we need to be careful how that is how that is done. Um, so for example, if it were going to happen perhaps don't include anything related to unit size, but only certain things that we can control

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>> a threshold level of right. >> Yeah. like this one and a half inch >> to me to me that that's like that could be staffed. But the the >> st the stair drive >> that is something that needs a variance

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and and even though we approve it >> if they go approve it then everyone's going to go >> go back and and widening it and so >> you know what's the threshold is it >> maybe you all can draft something in planning when you have this time available in August

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>> um that would allow us to not put someone through this but at the same time not encourage people >> to say, "Oh, I'll request this additional 10% later on." >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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>> All right. Should we move on to >> Yes. Um >> in Adam's uh absence [clears throat] um item DRB26-11 81, also known as file number 22840,

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1 Avenue. Do we have the presenters here? Okay. >> This application has been filed requesting modifications to a previously approved design review approval for the replacement of existing playground equipment within the park and the construction of a new shade structure. Specifically, the applicant is

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requesting design review approval for the demolition of one shade structure located on the west side of the playground to accommodate [snorts] new playground elements. On February 1st, 2011, the design review board review and approved the

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replacement of the existing playground within the park and the construction for a new shaded structure. Um, the city is proposing to renovate existing children's playground within the South Point Park as part of the approved bond program. Prior to

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selecting a specific design proposed, the parks facilities fleet and bridge ambitious department collaborated with the residents to of the surrounding neighborhood to obtain feedback. The new playground will be built within the same footprint at the existing playground. Uh

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the design developed by compound includes a large climbing structure shaped like a breathing well, net climbers, slides and a play tower nested nestled among the existing pal palm trees. A separate area is dedicated to swings

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on a soft rubber surface in aquat in aquatic shades of blue, purple and green. The two existing fabric shade sails will provide canopy coverage over the central play areas and the metal frame shaded structure located in the

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west side of the playground will be demolished to provide the open fall zone required for the new swing areas. staff find the proposed new playground design compatible with the parks coastal setting and recommends approval of the application.

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>> Thank you, Alejandro. Good morning, Mr. Chair, board members, staff. Uh Frank RC on behalf of the parks, facilities, fleet, and beaches department. Uh the playground upgrade at South Point Park um that we're speaking about was funded through the artistic playground uh

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component of the 2022 uh geo bond for arts and culture. The latest design uh incorporates feedback received from the South of Fifth Neighborhood Association's parent working group on January 5th, namely the addition of two additional

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swings for a total of four swings and one additional monkey bar structure. Uh the specific element uh that um requires review and approval by the board this morning or this afternoon I should say is uh the existing shade structure, the

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removal of the existing shade structure on the west side of the playground. Um, I'm going to hand it to our colleagues at uh, Compen, um, Oscar and Chloe, um, Compen, the of course the play structures vendor, to walk you through

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the proposed design and address any questions you may have. >> Great. Thank you. Um, hi everyone. Um, I'm Chloe. I'm with Compan. Um, I'm going to walk you guys through real quick on the South Pointy Park just so

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you guys have a full vision of the new playground. Um, I'll have my focus on this removal of the shade um, in the middle of my presentation. So, here's enclosed site uh, the context. >> Excuse me.

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>> Closer to that. >> Yes. Concept development. Um, the playground concept comes from the ocean. Um the design took dolphin, shark, sea turtle, coral reefs, and other sea creatures as inspiration, created a a play space for

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all ages. Um both design, well, actually we we're down to one design now. Um this design um is an eye-catcher center play piece that is 30 feet tall to draw kids into the playground. Variety of play activities will allow kids to explore

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the space at all um abilities. Um the inspiration as I said it's all um beach ocean related sea creatures. Um I'll dive into the design real quick. This is the site plan for the new

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playground. Um it will be all ages which means 2 to 12 years old. And um um this is the site contest. We have the playground. We have the restroom. Um I think there's also an concession stand

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in the middle. And then on the other side is a splash pad which was also be redone. Um age group wise we have the 5 to 12 age group. Um towards on the um east side and then um in the middle

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will be the 2 to 5 age group and then on the left side is the 2 to 12 age group which is a swing set. Um so this is a slide that's showing the site plan that is new playground overlaying on the existing site. Um

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which the change will be on the left side which is the swing area. Uh we receive we originally only have one base swing which is two seats. Um after receiving the feedback from parents and

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the community um they have a strong desire of more swings. So we increased the swing to a double bay uh which now includes two two bay u four seats. Two are the baby infant seats and then the

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other two are the regular what we call um bell seats. Um and therefore we are taking out this rigid original shade structure because it is in the uh middle of the swing. We're taking that one out.

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Um but we are also replacing the shade with a triangular cell shades. This is the main change of the whole um site. Everything else will stay. Um we will also including some cell shades for

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the larger structure and also the two to five play area. This is the overall showing the um walking path and the playground circulation. And equipment wise we have this iconic piece um for the dolphin. It is a 30

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feet tall play structure for the older kids 5 to 12 year old. Um it features a big slide going down. [clears throat] Um we will have shade going over the the majority of the um dolphin structure and as well as the slide.

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Um and that's the two bay swing with four seats, two belts and two infant. Um some um tables, seashell tables and chairs for the little kids to hand out um and maybe have snacks. um some spanning item which you see here. Number

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three is the junior spy. Um a two to five piece which is the shark for the little kids to enjoy. Um and the rocket roller is also a spanning item for the older kids. Uh number three is a seesaw is a multi seesaw that is for all age

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group which is 2 to 12. Uh we also received another feedback from the parent um from last um community meeting that they want to add a monkey bar. So the monkey bar is also an additional um on top of what the swing seats that we

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added. And at last [clears throat] I'm going to show some rendered final rendered image. Um it will show you the full scope of the new playground as well as the shading. >> [clears throat]

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>> Some interior view of that dolphin. Um, any questions? Thank you. >> That's your That's the finish of the presentation. Correct. >> Right. I have some site reference, but >> any uh anybody >> there any export disclosures?

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>> None. >> Um anybody online? If you'd like to speak, please raise your hand. No hands raised. Anybody in the audience? Nope. All right. Hey,

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>> I'll start. Um, incredible parks that we have in this city. Second to nobody. And I'm not being territorial or biased. I just all the parks that we do are really just incredible. Um, and I love

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this design. I get to visit all these parks with my grandchildren and they are extremely entertaining and um the shade is um needs to happen because otherwise

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um you can't stay in the park um and we have very um a lot of use in all of our parks. Um, so I commend the parks department and the input from the community is very important because yes, you do need four swings. Um, and you do

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need the monkey bars. Um, so I'm okay as one person on this board with your design of the additional shade structure or change to the shade structure. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'll second. I think Miami Beach has one of the best park systems in the

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country. So now you said >> that's right >> two to three times a week every week. So I commend that the changes you made and think getting input from the neighborhood is very important. So I have no comments. I think it's good great design change.

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>> Yeah, great great job. I mean this play is so important and I think this is such an imaginative um design and it obviously speaks to the surroundings. So, um, yeah, no comments. Very much in favor. Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> I'll go with my colleagues just said, so congrats. >> Thank you. >> Uh, yes, it's it's amazing. Um, I have just had two quick questions. The the splash pad is staying, correct? >> Um, as far as I know, they are

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>> I couldn't I could I'm sorry, guys. The splash pad my kids use a lot. So that's why water is uh >> it's a subsequent u project uh component which we'll tackle I think in the winter months. >> Yes. It's going to be another company

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that is the one who has expertise with the splash pad. So we are going to renovate the surface of the splash pad and all the features that we have in the splash. >> I just didn't want it to disappear. Um and the and the dolphin the the shade structures above the dolphin. Um, and

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it's been studied so that the the temps inside the dolphin don't and the slide don't get too hot. Is it is it that that triangle? Because it seems to be partly over. I know the tail is is high. I just I know again from my kids complaining like when they go inside of um the the

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structures, the guitar and certain things that you guys have, it can it can get kind of warm and same if the sun is directly shining on there. So, as long as you're you're good with it, I don't want to >> Can we bring it back up, PJ? Um, Chloe was just scrolling through her through

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the computer here to try to bring up that >> it has a shade over it, but it's like partial. I can't tell you if if that's great or not enough, so I don't even want to begin to, but I would just make sure nobody the slide or

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>> um the shade, no shade, no park. Yeah, I hot dolphin people, you know, being in the belly of a hot dolphin is is not as >> not pleasant, >> right? I' I've been in there and I've heard the complaints. That's all I'm these are these are real world uh complaints from from sevenyear-olds.

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>> We did best um we can to shade most of the structure. Um we left the tail open and also the tail isn't enclosed all the way. So at the top it is um allow air flow. Um, so that will help a little bit

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with the ear going in there as well. Um, but yes, um, we did the best we can to shade the the tallest because it doesn't make sense to have a shade that is 40t tall, right? It doesn't really do much when the sun changes um direction. So, I

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think it's more important part is to have the lower um part of the structure well shaded so the kids can can play most of most of the time of the day. >> I think it's great. >> Thank you. I make a motion that we

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approve DRB 26 1181 also known as file number 228401 Washington Avenue South Point Park. >> I'll second that. Motion by Miss Budavali, second by Miss Leuen. Um, all those in favor.

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>> Any opposed? >> Motion passes. Congratulations. >> Yeah, thanks. It's going to be going to be awesome. >> When does it open? >> Yeah, >> it's a question. >> Oh, >> this one we are planning to start construction on spring 2027 because of

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the lonely time that we have for the for the most of the pieces and it's going to take between six to eight months for construction. So at the end of next year, we should have it open. >> I I thought Mr. Aion had his hand raised, so I don't know if he wanted to make a comment on on the item. Hopefully

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my kids are not too old. >> Yeah, my my comment was regarding the whale that was mentioned regarding the heat and I don't know if it could have some um gills, per se, that will have better ventilation. [laughter] >> Yeah, >> that's a good idea.

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>> Yeah, vent it. >> Yeah, I'm serious. It's like if if if there is gills like uh >> it'll it'll have better ventilation for for the whale. >> Some screen even though it's a mammal, maybe it's a port hole or something.

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>> Yeah, call them out on >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um >> I just did I did want to mention for just that item is before the board. We can't approve changes in playground equipment. The reason that one came before the board is because they were expanding the area of the playground and

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removing some of the originally approved shade structures that were approved by the DRB. So, just in the future, if you see a park gets updated and has new equipment, as long as it's within that same original footprint, um it might be approved administratively. So, just so everybody's aware.

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>> Um, all right, we have one item left. >> Yes. DRB 26 11825 Bay Drive. >> This application has been filed requesting design review approval for an art in public places AIP program for a

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non-commercial non- electronic artistic mural exceeding 100 square ft on a on an existing commercial building. >> Okay. So this is um in relations to uh an art and public places program. The city of Miami Beach began the Elevate

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Miami Beach mural program earlier this year. Um, and so the city has approved some murals in different parts of the city to beautify different neighborhoods. Um, with regards to this one specifically, on April 21st, 2026, the art and public places committee

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selected a mural for this location. This is a a grocery store that's located in in North Beach on Normandy Isisle that has what is currently a blank facade. And so a mural is being proposed on that facade in order to beautify it. The committee selected a what is called the

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flying colors mural uh by artist Michelle Weineberg um for the east facing wall of the bay supermarket. [snorts] Um and they they did have other options but that is the one that was selected by the committee. Um,

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this is a uh the code requires that non- electronic artistic murals exceeding 100 square feet require the approval of this of the design review board and they also require the approval of the city commission. Um, so after this vote, it is expected to go to the city commission

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for the final approval of the mural. Um, I can describe the mural, but it's easier just to allow the applicant to show some pictures um of what it is. U there is some green in it. I will warn you. Um so >> uh but but it looks

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>> when these are brought to us from Art and Public Places where they've made a selection, do they always just send to this DRB the selection they made or do they send also the other art in public places that they looked at that they

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selected from? It it's up to them if they have options u available that they may they may send all three options or or however many options there are. Um it's it's up to the it's up to the committee. >> Three different artists that they're they're looking for our recommendation for. >> No, no, it's it's one artist that had

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three options. Um the one that was selected is the first one, but we wanted to provide you with the other ones in case there was a major concern with the with the main one that was selected. >> It wasn't a choice. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I would >> it shouldn't be a choice. Ideally, it's

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not, but but but we because there was green, we wanted to make sure that that >> there were options. >> Um, were you sworn in earlier this morning? >> We were here. >> Okay. All right. >> Thank you. Good afternoon, uh, Mr. Chair

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and board members. Francis Vicio. I'm the interim director for tourism and culture for the city of Miami Beach. Thank you for, uh, allowing us to present this for you. Um, and thank you for saving the best for last. Uh we're here. We're very excited with this project and just wanted to clarify a couple of points. Um we are presenting

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three options. AIP did make a selection. There's one artist that is the first two proposals and then a second artist for the third. And just to give you a little bit of insight into why we're presenting the three in a very rare occasion that

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for some reason the first one doesn't uh materialize or even the second one we wanted to present all three so that down the line if something happens we don't have to come back because of timing. So that's why but the the AIP did select

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the first one that is the one that the staff that we are proposing as well and as you'll see through the presentation that is also the one that the property owner would like to go with. So I'm happy to present Daniel Bender who is our cultural affairs manager to walk you through the presentation and we're here

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to answer any questions. >> Thank you. And I think we should have a presentation being queued up. Perfect. Um okay. So, elev I'm going to give a little context on how this mural came to be. Um, Elevate Espanola program has

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presented seven successful installations since the initiative began in 2022 with the aim of enhancing the Espanola Way east corridor and encouraging pedestrian connectivity uh to Ocean Drive. So, we'll go to the first slide. You

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just pressed the arrow. Oh, no. Uh, I think the incorrect proposal is on. It should have a black um cover [snorts] slide.

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Yep, that one. Perfect. Thank you. So, uh, following the success of the program, you can see this is one of the murals that was up. Um, and as approved at the February 17, 2026 Art and Public Places uh committee meeting,

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communicated via LTC059206, uh, the mural Sundial Spectrum by Jen Stark was adopted as part of the AIP collection. Um, at the March 17th, 2026 AIP committee meeting and communicated via

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LTC182026, the Elevate Espanola program was expanded to a citywide mural program with the new proposed location to be cited on the exterior wall of Bay Supermarket um, utilizing a limited entry competition with four artists in

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consideration to develop proposals. So, uh, as Roelio mentioned, at the April 21st, 2026 AIP committee meeting and communicated via LTC1662026, the committee reviewed proposals from

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the three artists and selected flying colors by Michelle Weineberg. Um, the selected artist, Michelle Weineberg, is a multid-disciplinary artist whose vibrant, patterndriven works blend painting, design, and architecture to

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transform everyday spaces into playful, immersive visual narratives. She's created dozens of public art uh, installations worldwide, including several in South Florida, specifically in Miami Beach as well. And for context, we're going to share a couple of those

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projects so you're better acquainted with her work. Um, first up is her work, Tropic Episodes, which greets travelers at Miami International Airport with vibrant colors and patterns inspired by Miami's tropical landscape and urban energy. It

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featured 34 panels spanning 240 linear feet throughout the airport's moving walkways and also utilized augmented reality components for visitors to engage with. The next slide features River Semaphore which was commissioned by Battery Park

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City Authority and New York City Parks curated by Artbridge. And this work which was completed in 2024 is a digital print on vinyl standing at 8 ft tall and spanning 700 linear feet. And then headed back to South Florida.

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Michelle's intricate pattern overlay was a temporary mural featured on Miami Beach cultural anchor, the Wolfsonian FIU. The proprietary dazzle camouflage mural was installed in conjunction with the museum's exhibit on World War I and visual culture. So, she drew uh creative

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inspiration from dazzle painting. It's a form of high contrast geometric camouflage um used on ships during World War I to mislead enemy optics. Uh, as you can see from these few examples, Michelle is known for translating her playful,

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patterndriven uh, visual language into ambitious large-scale artworks, seamlessly integrating color and geometry into the architecture of the public spaces she transforms. [snorts] So, back to the uh, accepted proposal uh, at again as mentioned

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earlier, it was at our April 21st, 2026 AIP meeting. her proposal, flying colors, was selected for the Elevate Miami Beach mural project as our first choice. Um, on May 5th, 2026, our uh tourism and culture department staff met

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with the Bay Supermarket uh property owner uh to present the artist proposals. The property owners confirmed support for this selection of flying colors by Michelle Weineberg. Um, the mural measuring 20 feet wide and I'm

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sorry, yeah, 20 feet tall and 45 feet wide translates the joy of pure color and shape inspired by painted strips dropped in chain chance arrangements on the artist studio floor and it suggests a game played on an architectural scale. It's also worth noting that the art and

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public places committee selected an alternative proposal also submitted by Michelle Weineberg titled community table. Should the flying colors proposal be rejected by the design review board, the committee is recommending Michelle Weineberg's community table, it channels

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the relaxed and positive energy of resident families and visitors whose ga who gather in the Normandy neighborhood for meals, gelato, shopping, festivals, music, and more. And um for the board's uh consideration, the artist has also

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said that she's open to feedback and shifts of color on either of her proposals. So no one is married to the color green if they don't like it. So just sharing uh in the rare case that neither of the first two proposals are able to come to life during the

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installation process, the staff is also presenting um a second alternate for review, which is we are nice and easy. Um but again confirming that the art and public places committee has selected the flying colors proposal by Michelle with

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um community table as their alternate. Um, so should the design review board provide a favorable favorable recommendation, flying colors would go before the mayor and city commission to execute a professional service agreement. And if approved at commission, the work would be projected

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for completion in fall 2026 with an opening hopefully for Art Week. Um so as mentioned we're just presenting the two alternative proposals for approval of appropriateness in the case unforeseen circumstances prevent us from moving

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forward with the AAP recommended proposal flying colors. >> Thank you. >> Um I don't is there do we need disclosures? I for I've forgotten it all day. So anybody have any disclosures? >> It's okay. We've been asking All

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right. None. >> Um, should we open the public hearing? If you're online and you'd like to speak, please raise your hand. I don't see anybody with their hand raised. >> Andreas. >> Andreas is here. >> Andreas is there. His hand. His hand is not raised.

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>> So, anybody in the audience that would like to speak? No. I guess we can close the public hearing. >> Okay. [snorts] Open it up to the board. As a former Art and Public Places board member myself, thank you for your service.

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Thank you for everything you do. The only thing I I I like the design is that it needs a little more vibrant colors like a yellow or or orange. Um, other than that, I'm I'm okay with and thank you for picking that spot, especially

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North Beach, which is like the forgotten stepchild of Miami Beach. So, I'm glad to see that work is being done in that area as well. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Like second, I used to actually live in that neighborhood and frequent

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that that supermarket. So, >> I'm familiar with that that uh particular store and I do think it's a great addition, but only question is is there a way or I guess it's a cost undue cost to the owner, but to add light into

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the mural at night so it could be more viewed while passing at night at night time or that cost to the owner. That would be >> the we're going the city will be entering an a letter of understanding with the property. They're just uh

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responsible to help prime the the wall, but the city would take on implementing the artwork and maintaining it. >> Could the city look into doing like a LED or some type of lighting that could so you could see a mural at night more? That >> we could look into that for him. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> Thank you. So, um, I'll speak. I I I like the the mural. I I think it has a lot of color as it is. I wouldn't um add more color. Uh, I do like the idea of the lighting

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at night. I think it would be um um just a a real statement at night. Uh maybe lighting coming down from the roof of the u of the building shining down. Um um and only one other comment. Um thank

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you for your all all of bringing the art in public places out. We've been collecting it from all the different projects um their percentage contributions, but now we finally see it. So that's a great thing. Um I will say I think the stepchild of Miami Beach

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is not North Beach. Knowing what they've spent on North Beach, I would say it's more of Mid Beach. um they don't forget us when they want to collect property tax and all other service fees, but they do forget us when it comes time to give.

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So that's my comment. >> We like our we like our in mid beach, too. [laughter] >> So, thank you. Do we need a motion for this? Okay. >> Yes, we need a motion and a second. make

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a motion that we pass DRB26-1182 905 Bay Drive >> and that's with the the staff recommended mural >> flying colors. >> Yes, flying colors and with the recommendation to incorporate lighting um into the project.

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>> Okay. >> If possible. Yeah. >> Um add lighting. >> LED light is now inexpensive for Bay Supermarket to maintain. >> Goose neck type. It can stick them out. >> Little goose necks that can come out.

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>> That's a great addition to that area. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Uh motion by Miss Buddha, second by Mr. P. Um and that's with a adding a recommendation to explore adding lighting. Um all those in favor?

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>> I. >> Any opposed? >> Motion passes. >> Thank you. Thank you for your time. >> And we do green. We're not opposed to green. It was just a It was just [laughter] a suggest It was just an issue. Yeah, we approved a whole building of green. >> Today we changed our mind and we went back to green.

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>> I only see one little section. >> Yeah. I don't want us to be as the anti-green board here. >> It's bright for sure. >> Thank you very much. >> We have a person sitting in the back. Did we miss an item?

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>> Did we? No. Okay. >> No, I'm just a visitor. Oh, okay. >> Um, >> read anything bad about her. >> Yes, before 1:00. >> Amazing.

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>> Are there any other discussion items or reports? >> We we have no other items to discuss >> and we took care of we said September 11th is the new >> next meeting will be September 11th. Yes.

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>> Uh then meeting adjourned. All right. >> And our lunch is back here.