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[Music] [Music] 25 I am Christine King chairwoman of the City of Miami Commission In case you guys don't know but I suspect that you do Thank you for coming Thank you for your advocacy We are going to start our
meeting with the presentation for one of our officers who's going to be retiring Our police chief is going to join me And if officer William
Nickerson's and those who are going to be here in support of would join me chief So as they're make good morning everyone as they're make their way over here Just real grateful to uh the chair
mayor the rest of the commissioners for always acknowledging the hard work of the Miami police those individuals that have dedicated their life to public service Uh and this is one of those gentlemen Uh Will Nickerson near and dear to my heart
Um has dedicated the vast majority of his life and passing on the legacy as son is uh is with the department But let me tell you what this individual has done Back in I want to say it was 2009 I was a lieutenant of the gang unit and we
were kind of looking at a model and we realized there was a lot of individuals that we had identified develop probable cause to arrest but were roaming out free So we needed a model to kind of go out there and do some fugitive apprehension So we created a task force
We created the felony apprehension team or fat I was a little heavier at that time so I was a fat lieutenant And uh we went out there and what these folks have done partnering up with uh our our folks in uh the US Marshalss is incredible
Thousands of individuals that have broken the law that have hurt our community that have decreased the quality of life in the city of Miami I thought they had gotten away with uh with the crimes that they had committed were not only identified located but brought to justice by the members of the
felony apprehension team man you have absolutely made the city of Miami a safer place And for that you have my heartfelt gratitude I know you're leaving Um you're going on bigger and and better things man You're going to spend time with your family enjoy the
kids but listen you always will have a home in the city of Miami and especially the Miami Police Department Thank you Enjoy your retirement God bless you Do you do you have any And listen I I am so proud of him
This is my classmate We both graduated together BLE 187 at Miami Day College And to see him go on and still looking good too I am so happy for him God bless you brother Thank you Let's get
[Applause] I was scrolling pictures At this time we are going to start our meeting with prayer and we have Pastor Willie Williams that's going
to lead our meeting today I want to especially ask for a prayer for our colle colleague uh Commissioner Reyes which is uh fighting for his life right now uh in the hospital I just wanted to offer a minute of a prayer and the preacher
Greater Mercy Missionary Okay good evening everyone My name is Pastor William Williams from Greater Mercy Missionary Baptist Church in Overtown historical Overtown Uh let me back that up And uh we're going to ask
God blessing upon this meeting today And we're going to ask each and every one of you to stand in honor of God Every head bowed and every eye closed Dear God how excellent is thy name upon
the land of the earth We come Lord God to just to give you thanks for our life and our health and our strength And and God you blessed us in a way that no other can And we thank
you Lord God And we asking Lord God for the covering of this meeting right now Lord God we ask that you bless each and every commissioner and their staff Lord God let them continue to represent you
in a way Lord God that you will be well pleased God We thank you Lord God for the compassion uh that they they have towards their community And we ask Lord God that you just continue to show them the way lead
them God and guide them into the direction that they need to be Lord God Let them honor their seat that they will help Lord God those who are in need and and just have vision Lord God for those who are willing to go further than they
are God I ask that you continue Lord God to just be their guide Lord God If you if you lead them Lord God they'll be well led If you teach them God they'll be well taught God Just like David said in the 51st Psalm he asks you God to
create in him a clean heart and renew the right spirit within him And God we thank you Lord God for that revelation And God we ask for a special blessing Lord God for those who are sick and shut
in especially Lord God um commissioner uh who is in need Lord God of your healing touch God bless him in a mighty way And God and every family who is represented here today you know their needs God and use our commissioners
today and forever more to make provision to stand Lord God on the words that they proclaim and show Lord God that need to be shown in all our endeavors So thank you Thank you for
being the God who you are Thank you Lord God for being the protector and the uh provision area of our lives Thank you God for blessing us wholeheartedly And
God we'll be so grateful ever so careful to give you the praise in Jesus name in the name that is above every name those that give you power If it's Yahweh if it's Jehovah if it's uh uh Yeshua but I
call him Jesus Thank you God in Jesus name Amen Thank you pastor At this time we will say the pledge of allegiance I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Mr City attorney would you please read your statement for the record Yes Thank
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testimony to be sworn in for planning and zoning items and any and any quasi judicial items on today's city commission agenda will be as follows The members of city staff or any other individuals required to be sworn in who are currently at who are currently present at city hall will be sworn in by me the city clerk immediately after I
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Yes we are Thank you chair May I administer the oath for the planning and zoning items Please Thank you chair Good morning ladies and gentlemen If we will be speaking on any of today's planning and zoning items the PZ items that's PZ 1 PZ 2 and PZ3 may please have you stand
and raise your right hand Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give at today's hearing is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth And your response is thank you chair Thank you Mr City Manager
Are there any items on this agenda that will be withdrawn and or deferred Good morning Madam Chair uh commissioners Mr City Attorney Mr City Clerk At this time the administration would like to defer and withdraw the following
items PH2 to be withdrawn PH6 to be deferred to the April 24th meeting RE4 to be withdrawn RE13 to be
withdrawn and FR2 to be deferred to the April 24th meeting That concludes the items Gentlemen ready for a motion Do you Oh sorry If you you so you don't have any items that you would like to withdraw or defer
Commissioner Partardo do you have Madam Chair Uh the city attorney had re requested that we reset FR1 because of some changes kind of like what happened with the billboards that we had some changes that go beyond the scope of the legislation and it requires
renotification and rewarding So that one will be reset for a later date Am I accurate We Yes we can I believe we can get it on the uh 24th Yeah whenever you want Defer to the 24th would be the recommendation Um there's notice issues
Yes the there are um in looking at the legislation there were additional things that they wanted to add to this legislation which were not part of the title So um therefore the legislation is changing and it makes sense to um defer
it tweak it then bring it back so that notice is proper We don't have any pneumont issues And that's FR1 That's FR1 the construction noise ordinance Okay Um I'm joined now by my colleague Commissioner Coryo Are there any items on the agenda
that you would like to withdraw and or defer Not uh just this moment And madam chair maybe u afterwards it might be one but not right now Okay So may I have a
motion Motion Second All in favor I Public comment is now open for the items that were that are on the agenda that have not been withdrawn and or deferred Good morning Good morning commissioners
I consider this building a great reuse of a property that uh has taken its toll As many of you know this was once the uh seplane um airport for Panama Um once Henry Flagler uh did a great job with
bringing uh railroads down to Miami Um we were able to establish the first international airport in America here at the Miami International Airport So thank you to Henry Flaggler and his um infrastructure improvements for trains
we were able to get that airport And thank you to Henry Flaggler we were able to get that nice plot of land that is currently uh used as the Presbyterian Church in Berkel So I asked uh and I bring this up to all of us Do we really want to take this piece of history that
we uh use for our children to go to school that we use for our families in our neighborhood to take their dogs and to go ahead and go and eat at our food trucks We really want to get rid of this nice grassroots area
that we have and put an 80s story building up a building that even if even if it does go up you can't even make a lefthand turn onto Bickl Avenue And when you make a right onto Bickl Avenue you're going right into a drawbridge So let's say you have 900 cars in this
building and you want to get let's say I don't know people are leaving for work at between 8 and 9:00 maybe about a 100 cars and you and for some reason the drawbridge goes up Do we really need an extra hundred cars at one time trying to make a right onto Bickl Avenue while
this drawbridge is going up So even if we have a traffic study that corroborates it I don't see why we would have anything substantial uh for this project I think we should leave it the way it is let the children have a nice place where they can go to school that's right on the water and also have a nice
place for our community to enjoy We don't need to make this into more of a concrete jungle than it is Thank you Thank you I'm sorry Chair Sir may I have your name for the record Sir first name is Matt Last name is Morano M A R A N O Thank you Good morning Good morning
commissioners Thank you chairwoman Elvis Cruz 631 Northeast 57 Street I'm here on item PZ1 the First Presbyterian Church This is a clear violation of due process the city code section 232 A
person shall be entitled to intervenor status if the person owns property within a 500 ft radius of the subject property Despite that law the HEP board voted 5 to3 to deny intervenor status That should not have been up to a board
vote Chairman King Attorney Weissong this will be a slam dunk rid of Cersiari lawsuit There have been big problems with the headboard making subjective decisions in the recent past For example city code
231B8 requires that new construction within historic districts are compatible with the property's historic character And yet at the Hepard in March this was proposed The house on the left is an
existing historic house The structure on the right was proposed at that meeting You'll notice it is completely incompatible with a historic district That structure does not even have
windows And yet the staff said it was intentionally out of architectural context in the district and it would be visibly out of alignment with the architectural character of the historic district And yet the HEP board approved it That got
approved by the HEP board This makes no sense I recommend you replace parentboard members Please grant the PZ1 appeal Thank you Thank you No no
no no We do this during the commission meeting I don't want anybody to rem be removed this Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners Um as a city of Miami resident and um child Excuse me
Would you please state your name for the Collins Thank JC and Collins Thank you Um as a city of Miami resident and mother of a child that attends um I prep I'm a big believer that education thrives um an environment supported by
community development and I urge you to support RE9 OmniCA Um considering Florida ranks as one of the states that pays least their teachers nationwide I think this would benefit not only the students but also
the the teachers that really show up for our students So I stress and urge you to extend the omni and also as a resident of Bickl um I also urge you to declassify the historical Presbyterian church um and in consider it
um as to what the previous gentleman mentioned So I just urge you that you please consider and extend the OmniC uh RE number nine as a parent and also as a resident of Miami Um thank you so much for your service Thank you Good
morning Good morning Madame Chair commissioners Rick Madan president of the Bisque Neighborhoods Association I reside at 2900 Northeast 7th Avenue Miami First of all I'd like to offer my prayers to Commissioner Reyes and his family Hope everything goes well for
him Uh there's a few items I'd like to uh comment on RE2 redistricting reform I think that is needed so please support it RE5 the improvements on Biscane Boulevard again very important so let's move forward thank you for uh putting in
the application for funding the Baywalk RE6 very much supportive of that and support RE9 which is the extension of the omni through 2047 it is much needed um RE10 lifetime term limits u I as
career politicians you know I feel they lose what the constituents want and we don't I don't think we want that Miami is at an inflection point where we need good governance right We can be London we can be Paris we can be New York or we can be
Detroit It's a choice So please let's put term limits up Uh FR1 has been deferred Um support of PH5 the Alipata Sierra Formation I think it's important long due much needed And then uh I also
support RE1 I think uh that special event waiver for downtown Cup should be uh granted Thank you so much and have a wonderful day Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners My prayers are with Commissioner Reyes My name is Crystal Ivory I am a city of Miami
resident I prepar and a supporter of the Omni CRA I was born and raised in Miami Dade County and remember a time when after shopping at the Omni Mall you prayed that you did not get robbed before you got home I have seen firsthand the positive impact the OmniCRA has had on our city And I'm so
happy that I can call Miami my home Over the last decade many residents with roots jobs families and a true desire to live in Miami haven't been able to say the same They have been pushed out of the city because they can no longer afford housing here My friends and colleagues who left Miami are
professionals with post-graduate degrees who provided valuable and at times critical services to our city Many schools are losing teachers hospitals are losing nurses and businesses are losing young professionals due to the housing affordability crisis in Miami
Over the years the OmniC has worked with much success to reduce slum and blight and improve the living conditions of their residents The current and most pressing issue right now is affordable housing As you all may know the Omni CRA has completed Windwood Woodworks 120
unit affordable housing unit that opened in February 2025 Another project we hope to see to fruition is the schoolboard project The project's plans entails a new I prep academy facility with over space with space for over a thousand additional students and workforce
housing The potential benefits of this project is huge and will serve two needs Highquality public education and workforce housing The Omnic has done an amazing job responding to the community's most pressing needs I am here asking for your support to extend
the life of the Omnic so they can continue to help our city thrive Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning It's a pleasure to be here today Good morning commissioners Good morning Attorney Weiss I'm here today to ah my name first uh Darra Jeff I also reside
like Rick Madden at 2900 uh northeast 7th Avenue in Edgewater So I'm here in support of RE10 and RE6 Um starting with RE6 uh the Baywalk connection design funding Um it's very exciting I'm thrilled that this is on the agenda I
urge you to uh approve this funding and this project It's a crucial step towards uh achieving the fully connected waterfront It's one of the you know a little blockade there that prevents it from being connected It'll uh your your support will secure the necessary
funding for this phase And by supporting this resolution we'll be closer than ever to continuous public access to the waterway It'll enhance walkability recreation and also economically it'll be very important for the city It's not just for our area It'll be a very
beautiful beautifying aspect of the of the city So I do urge you to vote in favor of that Um the second thing I want to quickly address that is uh extremely important is the question of term limits No disrespect to any of the commissioners uh that are here now but I
do think that term limits is an extremely important uh thing to vote for It reduces the chances of corruption Not suggesting anybody's corrupt but it does reduce the chances of it Long-term incumbency leads to entrenched political interests Um and that's leads to the
potential for corruption I myself I'm a white collar attorney so I know that these things happen Uh by limiting the number of terms uh that an individual can serve we really reduce the likelihood of power consolidation and undue special interests Fresh leadership
also uh brings new perspectives and new ideas and makes it harder for corrupt practices to take root and to flourish It increases accountability because if you know your time is limited you really are going to try and do the best you can you're motivated to produce tangible results in a in a finite amount of time
Um and it encourages innovation Uh it also prevents political dynasties from taking root Thank you very much Thank you Good morning Good morning Um I'll try to um Albert Gomez District 2 resident U I'll try to start a prayer
circle for Reyes today Um it's he's such a stalwart in this community and it's just so sad that he's going through this struggle especially when he was looking to uh run for the highest office So um just we're praying for you Um
independent of that I you know the items I came here to to discuss some of them were deferred Uh but it's really I didn't really want to discuss the items I wanted to discuss process Um you you all know me as an advocate but realistically uh I don't know if you
know me as a manufacturing expert as a technologist as a real estate developer I I do large scale work I'm all about process And what I'm noticing from the commission lately is that um very very
impactful legislation is coming through with little to no community input And one of the reasons why that is is because we are not at least in my view in my opinion not fully utilizing the boards that we have to pull in
information from the elected or appointed uh individuals in those roles that you have elect you have appointed to workshop them to get subject matter experts to bear and really tease out the
best process Also I want to applaud people that are doing that Christine King thank you so much Commissioner King for coming to your constituency and talking about the tree ordinance issue That is a perfect example of process going to the community hearing from your
community and then coming back and making a conscious decision of where you stand on that issue If you don't do this it's going to always be broken and you're always going to have these deferrals which bring hardworking people like myself to the table But we can't we
can't act like that We can't give you feedback from here It's too late Please utilize the processes that you have Appoint people in boards that are empty There are boards wide open right now that you guys haven't appointed Please
appoint the boards Make it a priority If you need a workshop of individuals to try to see put out some press You have money put out some press to ask for people to come in to fill those boards please Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Christian King
chairman and also commissioners and also well wishes for Commissioner Mola Rees My name is Ivory Keith Um I live in the Dorsy Park area Uh I am here representing residents We are writing to
express strong opposition to FR1 and FR2 scheduled for the first reading on April 10th 2025 Sir those two items have been deferred until our April 24th meeting Okay Can I still do a uh a public
comment We we aren't taking comments on items that have been deferred andor withdrawn Thank you so much Thank you I'll see you on April 24th Good morning Good morning commissioners Good morning uh Madame
Chair Our prayer with Manolo Rays not only for him but uh for his family as well Uh my name is Marcus Loro I'm a vice president of BNA I live on 600 Northeast 27th Street and I've been in Edgewater for 10
years I remember Francis was a commissioner driving this idea of the Baywalk Ken Russell as well Uh I'm strong in favor of R6 RE6 because it is
the first step towards of something that will be talking for 15 years um I think will enhance the area and will be a great opportunity for us to walk from Turtle Bridge all the way
to Goen Grove underline The second one is RE10 Um I'm a business owner and I I I agree on uh I believe strongly on the development and leadership having fresh
blood fresh ideas and I support strongly as well R10 to give opportunity for new uh politicians new uh leaders is not only related to
u bad things but opportunities for new things Thank you very much Good day Thank you Good morning Good morning uh Chairwoman King Uh commissioners my name is John Togrosa I reside at 1010 Bickl
Avenue Um I moved to Bickl three years ago and uh I'm a part of a large 12step organization um and have been for a long time And I was uh very surprised to find there were no active meetings in Bickl Uh the only
church that would allow us to hold meetings is First Pres First Miami Presbyterian Church Um Pastor Bennett has opened his doors to us very graciously for the last couple of years where we have two meetings a week But uh specifically Commissioner Partardo uh we
have a crisis in Bickl with a lack of meetings So if there's anything you could do to help us get meeting space in other churches and any other buildings that would be greatly appreciated Um our community is uh upwards of 400 people in
Bickl uh that struggle daily to stay alive and these meetings are very important Um so I just want to put a word in that First Miami Presbyterian Church has been wonderful to us in our community Thank you By the way we'll make sure to go and make that happen So
we'll get in touch with you I I'll have someone come out Thank you very much Thank you Good morning Good morning esteemed city commissioners My name is Tabitha Janna and I'm a proud voting resident living in Bickl for over
30 years I am also an IP Academy PTSA board member representing our school community I'm here today to respectfully ask you that you vote yes on item RE616168 to approve the second amendment
of the Omnic If you recall from my pink shirt we have been here before making our voices heard The dream of a new school campus project hinges on the extension of the Omni CRA IP Academy a toprated magnet public school has been a corner store of innovation and
opportunity for our students and overall well-being of families in the area Delays or setbacks in this process could compromise valuable initiatives that so many of us have worked hard to support Your decision on this agenda item has a real lasting
impact on our students our teachers and the families who call this community home Thank you for your time and leadership Please vote yes Finally as a Bickl resident I also urge you to consider my neighbors here today Thank you Thank you Good morning
Good morning Madame Chairwoman uh vice chairman and commissioners My name is Ben Sorenson I'm a Fort Lauderdale city commissioner uh a minister and on the council of First Miami Presbyterian Church and um just wanted to first appreciate uh you all especially
Commissioner Partardo for your leadership in the community and um ask for your um denial of the application and affirming of the work of the historic board in uh for the uh First
Miami um Presbyterian Church I being on the commission uh for the church I've been able to see firsthand the work that First Miami Presbyterian Church does in the community Um their ability to be a beacon of light affirming beacon of
light and their desire to continue to do that The historic board voted by unanimous 80 vote um to uh support the updated uh designation of the church property and uh that will continue to
allow the church to strive in its mission towards uh supporting the community I sit in your uh seats similar seats in in Fort Lauderdale and so I understand uh the process and understand the engagement and ask for you to continue to support the the legal
process through this and uh thank you very much for your time Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning uh uh Madame Chairwoman and commissioners My name is George Simon I live at 495 Bickl which is immediately adjacent to the proposed historic
redesation portion of First Miami Presbyterian Church I speak in favor of allowing the residents of Bickl Residential Community and their appeal to grant intervener status with a historic board Uh some may try to frame this as
an icon versus church issue It is not it Uh in working on this issue with the neighborhood I found interest and wide support for our quest to be heard at the historic board We have engaged with hundreds of Bickl residents and numerous condo associations near and far A very
wide net of interest was found Hundreds of Bickl residents signed over,400 petitions uh asking for this for this commission uh to allow the people of uh Bickl to have a voice in this matter At the hearing in December of the historic
board the attorney representing Icon Tower 2 a condo community of 560 units asked to be allowed intervenor status given residents affected a voice in their community At that December meeting of the board the city attorney advised the board at that time against giving intervenor status for technical reasons
I'm not a lawyer so I can't I can't opine on that Uh uh about the definition of abuing properties uh quite frankly the spirit of the law should prevail here and that's my basic request Technicality should be disregarded An example of kind of the absurdity of this
argument Ion tower 2 is 60 feet from the church property line separated by a park a city park but not allowed to speak while 500 Bickl separated by Bickl Avenue more than 100 feet maybe 200 feet away uh would be considered adjacent Now
we can't let these technicalities prevent due process and violate the spirit of the law Also of interest now is that the developer and church have changed their approach and are now arguing that icon was not properly represented at the December meeting and therefore intervening status should not
be should be denied So wow This this runs in the face of the board's recognition at the hearing of our representation Thank you Thank you Can I close I would like you not to I would like you to support the recommendation that that be allowed to go back to the board for
proper consideration and the voice of the community to be heard Thank you Good morning Good morning I uh sorry madam chairwoman Uh my name is Pocha Carter I'm speaking on PZ1 as a member of the 12step groups in the Bickl community I live in the rise building in
Bickl and work for the University of Miami Um first I find it very heartening to see the civic engagement on display here today Uh I will be echoing a a statement heard earlier I can't speak with great authority on the issue of PZ1 but I can speak to my relationship with
First Miami Presbyterian Church as a member of the 12step community and I can speak to the community-mindedness of the leadership that made the decision that affects our groups in that area Um First Miami Presbyterian Church opened their doors to us when virtually no other organization has We do have the
privilege of accessing that space twice a week with an attendance of around 50 people who meet to support one another in recovery which is truly life-saving work um and essential in the densely populated area of Bickl where I live at I appreciate your willingness to work
with us Commissioner Partardo and um you know I hope that the decision made will speak to the community in the Bickl area And um you know I'm just here as a friend of First Miami Presbyterian Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning city commissioners My name
is Pia De Lima 495 Bickl apartment 5311 We're not here to have a referendum of the great work done by Pastor Benick and the First Miami Presbyterian Church We're not here to oppose an 80story
building nor um the great work that's been promised in the future or the loss of views We're here Icon Bickl Tower 2 is legally entitled to be heard We were denied this right on December 3rd If we overlook
city code today we ignore it today We ignore it for the future We ignore it forever We seek fairness not favors A petition of 1,400 signatures on
change.org dog was pulled down by supposedly opponents A Miami influencer that really promotes the great work you do in the city ran nearly a hundred comments asking city commissioners the city
leaders to hear the community speak So what we asking you commissioners please hear our voice have a balanced view Let us bring our side of the story and I want to put on record a 100
letters 100 plus letters supporting this view Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Good morning My name is Joel Minsker I'm a retired attorney and I grew up in this area and I'm here on
behalf of the First Miami Presbyterian Church and I support what they're doing And the reason I want to emphasize to you is that I am a member of a 12step group which graciously the church has allowed
us to meet in their facilities and they've been very good about supporting us and precoid as you as you may know many of the churches allowed us to meet in those areas and in their church facilities
Unfortunately after CO was over and everybody returned to normal this church Miami the Miami the first Miami Presbyterian Church is the only church
that allowed our 12step groups back into the church I'm sad to report that I've I've we've had the support of this commission I know that in the past and I know we're going to have that in the future But I just want to point out this
was the only church that welcomed us back took us back and supports us to this day and and I feel that's unfortunate and wish the other churches would do the same thing Thank you very much for Thank you Good morning Morning
commissioners My name is Anori I'm here to ask you to give the residents of Bickl a voice Um the first pres Presbyterian church is situated in a historical area It is close to Bickl Park and the Bickl Mosium
Um it is in an ecosystem that is a little bit um fragile It's in a flood zone There's a lot of things that I think the residents deserve to hear really independent experts on the subject and
I'm here to ask you to make a decision that will not undermine public trust and that will give residents a voice Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning My name is uh Carrie Tali I've been a
resident of uh Miami for over 20 years I've been involved with First Miami Church for over 15 years I've been a Presbyterian for 40 years and I've been involved in Presbyterian church leadership throughout that period of time Um we've heard a lot of great
comments about First Miami and I don't disagree with any of them I recognized a long time ago that First Miami had an opportunity to be a wonderful worship community in the city of Miami on Bickl Avenue I'm here because uh in my opinion
the the project that is going forward was approved in a way that essentially disenfranchised the congregation You have both the neighborhood and the church members the congregation have been denied any meaningful opportunity to discuss or consider this project Um
the church hierarchy put together an administrative commission that came in and took over the church You know Presbyterian churches are traditionally run by the congregation through a session Well the hierarchy of the church appointed an administrative commission and took over the church in 2020 and is
still running the church So the congregation has no voice Um the uh they they basically conducted a congregational vote during CO Interesting that we just had a comment about how First Miami was open during COVID There was no worship at First
Miami for over two years And during that time we had a we had a Zoom congregational meeting which violated in my opinion violated not only the church bylaws but also violated uh Florida law Florida nonprofit law The net result of that was to
allow an approval of the project to go forward based on a a meeting that was in my judgment uh contrary to not only the bylaws of the church but also the laws of the state of Florida I took I took that issue all the way up to the senior
judicial body within the Presbyterian Church I lost I lost on a 72 vote Thank you Thank you very much But I I'm here to support the icon motion because I feel like the congregation and the community need the opportunity to
participate Thank you Good morning Good morning Madam Chair Good morning esteemed commissioners My name is Amanda Desetta I'm a resident of the city of Miami residing at 68 Southeast 6th Street apartment 3303 and I am the head of real estate development for Dragonfly
Investments I am here in support of RE9 for the extension of life of the OmniCRA Please approve the item as is Since January 2024 the Omnic has done an impressive job by enhancing community infrastructure resiliency and housing
accessibility The Omnic is committed to affordable housing and has done great work in our community helping families of all income levels afford homes in Miami Work that should be extended far into the future as possible to benefit the community at large The OmniCRA
ensures that everyone in our community benefits from development not just a select few It attracts new businesses to the area creating job opportunities for residents which helps small businesses grow and thrive boosting the local
economy Additionally the historic preservation work and efforts done by the OmniCRA is crucial for community heritage and neighborhood experience The Omnic successfully aims to uphold buildings and the cultures they embody A
prime example of this is the exemplary restoration work done on the bank building on the corner of 14th Street and North Miami Avenue Additionally the CRA is committed to increasing affordable housing options for Miami residents with a goal of 97
new units ensuring more affordable housing access Dragonfly Investment supports the goals and projects of the OmniCRA and we urge the commission to extend the life of the OmniCRA Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning
chairwoman and commissioners My name is Reverend Dchek I'm the president of the church and also the chair of the administrative commission that was that is now serving as as the overseeing body of the church I became involved uh with the church and in five years ago
volunteer uh as part of the a situation to help it rem uh remediate a tax lean that was laid against it because of a poor document that was written in our lease with the school We have dealt with that and and took care of that And in
the process it was wondering how we were going to pay for this multi-million dollar tax lean that there the property was offered up to be developed In that process um parts of the property were
somehow uh considered historic I don't know how a parking lot becomes historic but but somehow parts of it were historic Uh much later we they don't have the same architectural value as the rest of the church And so we worked with the historic board to have that read
correctly Uh just like we work with the the legislators in in in the city or in the state to have that tax lane read correctly We've gone through all the processes that we are supposed to We have engaged the congregation as much as we can We have engaged the presetaries
as much as we can All of the 42 churches in in the presbyter We have gone through all of the processes that are possible We became involved when it wasn't happening at all by anyone in the church at that time taking care of this tax lean And so I I ask that you honor the
the historic board's vote a unanimous vote that there is an intervenor status and that the church is allowed to continue with its program that benefits the community all over the place Thank you very much for your time Thank you Good morning
Good morning commissioners My name is Caesar Vander at 1050 Bricklab apartment 1512 and I'm speaking on item uh PZ1 So I'm a proud member of the congregation First Miami Presbyterian Church and I'm here in support of the historic board's decision and I'm asking
the commission to deny the appeal So I teach at FIU as a cultural anthropologist and I got to go to class so I'm trying to bear with you guys as much as I can today I know these things get charged but I've been a Bickl resident for the last three years a native Miami Both my wife and I were born in Jackson North Maybe some of you
guys were too And we moved to Bickl from the suburbs to be at the heart of innovation and business However we found that Bickl can be a lonely place as we've encountered here and heard today Um away from family and faith several for several months we found ourselves at the doorstep of our current spiritual
home as First Miami At first find me we found a community that like us has a desire to care for others and they have cared for us and even for our two wiener dogs Craig the two wiener dogs they're adorable First Miami EVA is a living
institution whose mission is to care for others not just today but for the future and with love Historic church building is at the heart of our property As cultural anthropologists I know how important culture is and to preserve our
identity That building will be preserved and maintained and there's no request to demolish it We ask that you uphold the story board's decision and deny the appeal And I really thank you guys
Thank you for coming Good morning Good morning My name is Patty Kelly and I'm a resident at 2900 Northeast 7th Avenue in Miami I'm here to urge you to vote in favor of RE6 Baywok connection design funding My
husband and I have lived in worldclass cities such as New York London Chicago Boston San Francisco and LA All of them have wonderful public gardens and waterfront spaces within walking distance of most residential neighborhoods The pay the Baywalk is the
perfect complement to the rapidly growing Edgewater residential area which is already installed in vehicle traffic Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Madame Chairman and commissioners My name is Susan Carpenter and I am here to
speak uh on item PZ1 I'm also honored as a naturalized American to be part of this process um and my right to get up and talk about what I passionate about I've been a
supporter of First Miami Presbyterian Church um for over 30 20 years and I am a supporter of the decision of the historic board and ask the commission to deny the the appeal in
PZ1 The First Miami Presbyterian Church has been The plan for the First Presbyterian Church has been years in the making The church followed all the rules attended all public meetings shared their vision with the
congregation and the public and most importantly made a clear commitment to protect that which is truly historic in the church I have to personally say that the Flaggler Chapel in the church which is a
you just feel the history when you're in there has been a place that has helped me and has given me a lot of peace in times of trouble And this will this area and the other part of the churches that are truly historic will not be affected by
this development Everyone agreed with the decision from the city staff the preservation experts and the historic ward about what is historic Therefore I ask that you uphold the decision of the historic board and
deny the appeal of PZ1 Thank you for listening Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners My name is Claudia Harrari I'm here today as a Bickl resident to ensure our voices are
heard This is not about blocked views It's about responsible development protecting our neighborhoods historic heritage and making sure due process is followed We are not against growth growth We are against decision that
disregard community input and longstanding protections We respectfully ask you to consider the community's concerns and give us the opportunity to be heard Thank you for your time and consideration
Thank you Good morning Thank you Good morning commissioners My full name is Carlos Austo I am a resident of the city of Miami My physical address is 495 Brick
Avenue apartment 611 th code 331 This development is a land sale dressed up as community progress A deal was made between the church and a
developer before this historic property lost its designation Non community forum collaboration with residents or environmental impact study existed
Now we face the loss of a landmark the removal of green space and the strain on our street and sewers All for the profits of private investors The lack of transparency and
public input in this process undermines the credibility of the city commissions and firmers for residents We ask you to serve the community by giving us a fair
share Thank you very much Thank you Good morning Good morning My name is Amanda Olivostro representing Julian Henry's here to speak in favor of RE1 the Downtown Cup
The Downtown Cup is a fivev5 tournament with an adult teen and kids league competing for high value prizes The adult league champions for example will win five roundtrip tickets to South America sponsored by Delta Airlines and
LATAM Outside of tournament scheduled games the field will be open to the community for pickup soccer games creating an inclusive space for play and connection right on Flaggler's newly completed streetscape
With over 125 teams registered we have the ability to program three games every weekday evening bringing life and energy to Flaggler Streets slower nights when businesses can struggle with inconsistent foot traffic Beyond this
initiative's immediate impact it presents an opportunity to gather actionable data The Miami DDA gathered incredible data during this past year's Holiday Village 75,000 people came to downtown to
experience the Holiday Village 66,000 of these visitors were new to downtown That's almost 90% of the total visitors of the Holiday Village being first timers to our neighborhood
Similarly every Sunday we host the Sunday markets and this consistently attracts over a thousand people every single week to Flaggler We want to build on this momentum and explore how weekday
activations like the Downtown Cup can drive similar success The Downtown Cup is more than a soccer tournament It's a strategic tool to boost vibrancy increase foot traffic and uh facilitate economic vitality in
downtown Thank you When Flaggler Street is activated businesses thrive When it's not it is unpredictable Thank you We want to give people a reason to come to downtown Thank you Good morning Good morning Miami city commissioners My name is My name is Otter Schmidt and I'm an
eighth grade student at I Prep Academy downtown I will be continuing my education at I Prep into High School and I'm very proud of the fact that our school ranks in the top 15 public schools in the state of Florida As you know our current facility is limited to a schoolboard building in
downtown Miami which has been retrofitted to support our classrooms and has virtually no outdoor space to accommodate activities Over the past many years our school board teachers and students have worked diligently in conjunction
conjunction with the OmniCRA to develop a plan to enhance our educational experience through a potential development of a new facility which would include workforce housing for the community I Prep is unlike any other school We take an innovative approach to
education implement technology and encourage students to think and act outside the box no matter their background We are a community of learners and deserve the best There is a reason our graduates attend the best universities And because
of that I urge you to vote yes on agenda item RE number nine number 16168 for the extension of the Army CRA which would allow us to complete the work we have begun for the benefit of the community
and IP Academy Thank you We have to encourage our community activists We have to encourage when young people come and share their concerns with us One more time One more time Thank you young man Good morning Good morning Madam
Chair Miss uh and city commissioners My name is Terrell Fritz executive director of the Flaggler District Bid and proud resident at 111 East Flaggler Street and our thoughts and prayers are with our DDA chair Commissioner Manola Reyes and his family On behalf of the bid board of
directors I'm here to speak in enthusiastic support of R1 the downtown cup This event is exactly the kind of activation that defines our vision for a new Flaggler Street Community centered business supportive and full of life the
downtown Cup will take place between April and May 25th It's a monthlong activation that will bring people together through the universal language of soccer So whether you're a downtown employee an amateur player a downtown resident or curious visitor the popup
soccer field in the 200 block of East Flaggler will offer moments of joy connection and pride The event's partnership with national brands like Delta LATAM Air and Celsius and local stakeholders like Miami DDA
and dozens of adjacent small businesses brings value to our historic commercial district Downtown Cup has the support of Date Heritage Trust and we have reached out to the residential associations in Bickl Biscane Boulevard Edgewater and
Winwood to invite those neighborhoods to come play on Flaggler Finally the Downtown Cup is about much more than a single event It signals what's possible on a street that's been under construction for many years a future where Flaggler Street
again become M Miami's main street On behalf of the Flaggler District Bid and the business and property owners we represent we urge you to fully support RE1 the downtown Cup Thank you Good morning Good morning
commissioners My name is Tara Steinbach I live at 495 Bickl Avenue unit 407 The First Presbyterian Church is situated in an archeological conservation zone adjacent to Bickl Park in the Brook Bickl mausoleum within a fragile
ecosystem Excavating for an 80story tower could lead to irreversible damage Why would we approve such a large project near residential areas without independent expert opinions The way this approval has progressed undermines
public trust The people of Miami deserve better Please ensure that residents have a voice in this matter Thank you Good morning Hey rising kings and queens Uh how y'all doing today I am the proud
founder of this encouraging dreamers breaking barriers I'm here representing all the trouble youth living in Miami Dade County So I'm here to ask you guys to say yes to PZ2 PZ3 and RE9 the
extension of the Omni CRA Um also ask that while we here we also need to start listening to the people because the people matter and their voices what's important and their concerns Thank y'all Thank you Good morning Hi good morning
My name is Karolina Campos I am a resident of Rico and I a mother of two kids in Iber and I am here today to ask you please work together and don't erh
er um make a decision today to say yes to the re number nine We have been waiting for that uh for a long time and also it's a big project that will help not only the student and teachers for it
going to help a lot of people from the community Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning everyone Um my name is Joyce Roman I'm a citizen of uh the city of Miami and I'm a business owner as
well and I'm here to ask you to consider extending the life of the CRA Um I'm joining many faces here asking you for the same thing Some people are asking you to help them and extend it because they help the community Some of here are
here to help you because of a school I'm a business owner and my business would not be right now open if it wasn't for the Omni CRA We've been open for seven years and I ask you to allow the opportunity for other small businesses to have the same opportunity that I have
received from this organization They do more than many other people think and they have not only allowing me to continue in business because that will be talking about myself but have been able to hire people from your district from your district to help us and help
them have a paycheck So this is not about me This is also about the many projects that the CRA has going on that if they don't exist and if you don't support that many of us are going to hurt from every level income in this city So I ask you to please give it the
thought that it needs Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning My name is Anna Paola Lampa and I'm a resident of 495 Rico Avenue Um I picked Brio as my home So I'm here today to ask you that please uh we hear
you hear our voice Uh icon breakout tower 2 is legally qualified as intervenor to have an intervenor starters but we were denying this right Um if we overlook the code today we might be uh just uh establishes a president for the future I think that
allowing this decision is um is going to demonstrate uh it's going to extend harms in the integrity of our communities And I'm asking you please as commissioners to demonstrate your commitment to the community to hear us And I I'm going to rephrase what one neighbor just said We seek for fairness
We don't seek for favors Um please um stand for PZ1 Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning I am excited to be here My name is Metress Bats In my first 60 seconds I'm going to be representing the Miami Women's Club located at
1737 North Behore Drive I'm here in full support of RA9 the extension of life for the OmniCRA and I respectfully urge you to approve this item as is The OmniCRA um funded the Miami Women's Club to the tune of about $4 million for the
renovation of it some years ago I have been excited since 2024 of the work that the OmniCRA and the Miami Women's Club is doing in the community and it's amazing and I'm excited about um all of the develop and all support and all the projects that they're going to be doing
because it helps us as a local nonprofit organization extend the work that we're doing in the community and for the first time in 50 years making the space available to community It's the jewel on the bay and it's an opportunity to show support for economic development
businesses and opportunities for children and families to be engaged Now I'm going to turn around and reintroduce myself as I must always do I am also the executive director of the Overtown Business Association the newest Florida Main Street designate And if you're not
familiar with Florida Main Street I would like you to Google it I'm in full support of the bond and the resolution for $25 million for the money MOAD a unprecedented opportunity to invest in Overtown's future while honoring a full spectrum of America's past That's at that's for the CRA the Southeast
Overtown Park West CRA meeting We'll have a public comment for that as well Okay I just want to say um if you're not familiar with the Main Street designation that item will help you understand how it fits into our
community overall comprehensively and it follows a national model Thank you for your time Thank you Good seeing you Good morning Good [Music] morning My name is Maria Bino I'm a
Miami resident and voter and I'm also a proud parent of a child going to I prep academy I Prep Academy is one of the few public schools in Miami that is prek to 12 My daughter is going to be a senior next year With that being said she's
been in I prep since kindergarten I Prep is our home I Prep community is our family That's the reason I'm asking you to please vote yes on the extension of the C omni contract
that is uh RA9 Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Madam Chairwoman and commissioners My name is Bryce Rogers I'm the pastor of Sunset Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale Um I'm here to
speak against uh item PZ1 in favor of the historic board's decision And I just want to say that my wife Sunman is a full-time professor at FIU I'm an adjunct at FIU as well so I spend quite a bit of time in the city due to traffic much more time than I
would like to but it's always a blessing to be in Miami And I would just like to encourage you to support the unanimous decision of the historic board which uh duly considered the historicity of every one of the buildings and the materials
that they're constructed with and their historic value to the city Thank you Thank you I'm going to have to say it also I'm a proud member of FIU staff I teach Miami politics and um so good for FIU They've
got a great great team Good morning Good morning Uh my name is I'm sorry My name is Him Kuren from uh 500 Briel East apartment 2802 I'm here for PC1 As uh as a resident we pay our taxes
and uh are there all rules and when we renovate our apartments we must obtain city permits follow the regulations How it is possible that the historic uh preservation envir environmental board did not conduct an
independent study before the sac decl classified a historical church even part of it a significant amount of work was done to classify the church historical status initially why is being uh desri
decl classified simply because a developer wants to build a 80s story building We have many deeper questions regarding the impact of another 80story building without significant improvements to infrastructure water and
electricity However our main question today why is it so difficult to give us a chance to share our perspective What is the city commission the historical board worried about All we ask for our city leaders to provide
us with an opportunity to be heard It is fair and square Thank you so much Thank you Good morning Good morning uh commissioners Uh first our thoughts and prayers with Commissioner Reyes Uh I'm
here uh on behalf of Miami First Presbyterian Church I'm a member uh there So the congregation does have a voice We discuss many issues Uh we do believe that our parking lot can provide us a long-term viability for the church
Uh not only in terms of preserving the true historic value of the church in itself the building the main building but most importantly to extend the life of the good work that the church does Without the financial support that this br what are we going to do You heard a lot of our people here talk about the
good things that are happening What churches are closed doors What churches are open I can tell you from my personal life 20 years going to that church that it has changed my life and I want to make sure that that opportunity is open to all community Rick needs this Rick
needs the church and the touch that the church brings to each one of every person that even just walks by because they walk by and they enter the church and this the Holy Spirit touches their souls So this project will allow us to continue to do that for many generations to come So urge you to deny the appeal
and support the church in this venture Thank you very much Thank you I'm sorry chair Sir if I could have your name for the record Hugo Marejo Good morning commissioners Good morning Hi my name is James Alassio I'm the general manager of Icon Bickle Tower 2 and a proud resident of
Miami Bickl residents make significant contributions to the county's budget and have a crucial opportunity to collaborate with city leaders on shared goals As residents we support the church's decision to monetize its properties provided it does not jeopardize Miami's
historical legacy Your decision today is about stronger protections for historical sites that define Bickl's cultural identity independent assessments for projects that could threaten our his heritage and environment ensuring our voices are
heard in decisions that affect our neighborhoods Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commission My name is Lamont Heert I'm a resident at 11-11 Brickl Bay Drive I'm the music minister at First Miami
Presbyterian Church Uh I was I'm here in support of the historic board's unanimous decision and respectfully uh ask that you deny the appeal I was sent a poster recently from uh one of the residents at uh um the icon building um with a picture of the historic church on
the front of the poster and she was so alarmed that she thought that that poster was going to come down A lot of people who signed that petition thought the historic church was going to come down Um I just want to assure everyone that the good work that we're doing is going to continue The free operas the
yoga the pilates the services the groups One of my favorite things about the church is the people that come in and just walk in off of the church and we allow uh anyone to come in use the bathrooms uh sit in silence Um thank you again for your time Uh and again ask
respectfully that you deny the appeal Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners My name is Gracia Sutter I am here to be another person to ask for you to listen to the residents of
Bickl for us to have a voice here for us to know that we are actually being heard This issue is not merely about losing views It's about fostering responsible development with a balanced perspective We must focus on protecting our shared
environment and heritage for the benefit of the entire community We are counting on you to uphold this balanced approach in your decision-m Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners and fellow
citizens My name is Janelle Bennick and I'm here with my colleague Anna and uh other voices from the congregation speaking on PZ1 I'm a supporter of First Miami Presbyterian um in the historic board's decision and asking the
commission to deny the appeal I value deeply what our church has done in the community From our Serve Miami Bickl trash cleanups our Momco program that provides community for mothers of children ages 0 to 18 our free workout classes Bible studies AA 12step programs
craft nights and worship services Our church hosts over 1,000 events a year for our community We do this out of the love of our Savior Jesus Christ who calls us to love our neighbors We are simply asking to move forward with what
has already been approved so that we can continue to care for our community for generations to come Thank you and God bless you Thank you Good morning Morning I'm a resident at 490 495 Bickl Avenue My name is Brian
Rem Um while discussing the right to a fear hearing I'd like the commission to approve the appeal of PZ1 I've wanted to share the impact of another high-rise on Bickl Avenue We're facing over 900 new vehicles a surge of
residents in an already crowded area and years of construction noise and disruption to our neighborhood It will have a greatly negative impact if not destroyed a vital green space park right next to this
project It's not responsible urban planning that disregards our community disguises growth We're not just expressing concerns we're waving red flags Commissioners please allow for the a balanced debate The weight of your choice will be a burden we will all
carry Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners My name is Basil Marceline I live in 495 Rickl Avenue apartment 55311 I am the president of Icon Bickl
Tower 2 which supports 1,200 residents in the Bickl area The public hearings about the declassification of the historical Presbyterian Church did not provide adequate notice or opportunities for
participation When Icon Bickl attempted to intervene on in December this rejected this request immediately rejected This raised important questions about the validity of the
process According to the city code properties nearby should have been allowed to participate but did not occur And as a part of the icon board it is our fiduciary duty to
request and help us you commissioners in PZ1 This unfair decision undermines the integrity of our city's preservation efforts and raises concern about fairness What we request here is
fairness to be heard as a community Ensuring due process is an ethical obligation and protects the community Many residents care deeply about this issue and seek a fair and thoughtful process
As residents in the Bickl area we are not opposing the construction of this building However the denial or the approval of the declassification is what we are concerned about because that is
one of the few buildings that we have in the Bickl area that preserves the historical nature of our surroundings Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners Uh my name is
Simine Hussein I'm here in the matter of PV1 and in support of the icon Bickl residents and the Bickl community Uh it is an honor to be here It's my first time here and I was pleasantly surprised uh to see that the session started with
a beautiful prayer by the pastor And on that same note I would like to remind the city of Miami that faith and integrity are not to be sold for profit And our families matter and the church provides the church the park They
provide a safe and spiritual sanctuary for the families for our children Um and due process should always be abided by the residents the community have a voice We live there and the church the park provides a beautiful place for us to
walk with our children for us to go and pray and um we really care about this issue and we are seeking a fair thoughtful and a heartfelt decision on this matter Thank you Thank you
Good morning Good morning My name is Bodis Centenno I live in Bickl I'm a member of Miami First Presbyterian Church I'm here to support the historic board's decision and ask you to please deny the
appeal Uh the historic building is going to be preserved We care a lot about it and we will we want to preserve it and we want to preserve it for many generations to come and the parking lot
is not a historic uh it doesn't have any historic value and the historic board has made that decision unanimously There is no controversy about it and I would also like to tell you about my experience in first Miami I
moved to Bickl recently and I found open arms in that community Uh we are part of the Bible study in Spanish My family and I attend and we grow in the word of the
Bible We have recently have to move our group to another room because we don't have the space to house so many members that we have now And it is incredible to see how th how the church is thriving
and how members are coming together and how we are trying to be better people and to um make a positive impact in the community Thank you Thank you Good morning Good
morning Madam Chair commissioners My name is Gordon Fails My business address is 3644 Grand Avenue I'm the chair of the Collaborative Development Corporation a notfor-profit corporation that will speak this morning to 3710
Grove Land and Community Housing Development We're very proud of the fact that we have brought a number of people together particularly from the village west to put this together um and are seeking uh
final approval from this commission I've been involved for about 20 years in uh through churches and through social service organizations and trying to improve the conditions both living and working in West Coconut Grove And I
think we've got something that will really work here We've dealt with health and education and jobs and now we have come up with the fact that the thing that we're still most in need of is public housing lowcost housing for the
neighborhood and for those who have been here before left and we'd like to see them come back Thank you Thank you Good morning Uh good morning Chairwoman King and commissioners For the record my name
is Rich Heisenbuttle I'm president of R.J Heisenbuttle Architects with offices at 2199 Pon Boulevard in Coral Gables and I am here to give you firsthand testimony and and to request your extension of the OmniCRA
I have had the opportunity to work with the OmniCRA over the past 10 years and I can tell you that without any doubt All of their good work could not could not have been accomplished without all the good things that they do We would not have had the restored Miami Woman's Club
We would not have had the Citizens Bank that looks so wonderful in the middle of uh of 14th Street um that and and the master planning work that they worked on with us and through us needs to be continued I urge you to approve it and
move it forward again today Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Good morning commissioners My name is John Piso and I'm a resident at 495 Bickl Avenue adjacent to the First Miami Presbyterian Church And I'm
here today also on behalf of dozens of others that couldn't be here uh for this session today but all have the same voice Um I'm speaking about PZ PZ1 and we're here to fight for the right to
be heard and while discussing the right to a fair hearing I wanted to share the impact of another high-rise specifically in this area We're facing the prospect of hundreds of new vehicles a surge in residents in an already very crowded
area and years of construction noise and disruption The Bickl neighborhood simply cannot handle this burden on its roads infrastructure or residents quality of life And just as important it will destroy a
vital park that provides the only green space for a community maintained by the very residents who have been denied a voice We're not just expressing our concerns We're screaming loudly waving red flags Commissioners please allow for
a balanced debate Thank you And consider granting us intervenous status Thank you Good morning Good morning My name is Sandra Figero and I'm here to speak against PZ1 Um I'm in supporter of
F uh First Miami Presbyterian Church Um and to support the historic uh board's decision asking the commission to deny the appeal Um my concern is that uh the historical society has already
designated correctly to remove the parking lot and the Christian education building that was built in 50s and 60s as not historical Um I'm also concerned that the green space that everyone's talking about is a parking lot with no
greenery whatsoever Um the park is not the church's it is the city of Miami's So their argument about the park is with the city of Miami not with the church It will not be hindered or harmed or touched by this
development If you look at their website it is filled with misleading misconceptions of what this situation is The neighborly thing to do is to go to the church speak directly to the pastor
who can speak to them how the process was done how the planning is going how it would or should or isn't perhaps going to affect the neighborhood in in an importly way Thank you for your time
Thank you Good morning Good morning I'm Jeff Mlan Uh I serve and have ministry with churches from Fort Pierce to Key West including First Miami And I'm here to speak um against the
PZ1 Working in those churches 42 of our churches I go to churches that have both historical quality and old quality And I am extremely thankful that the Miami board understands the difference between historical and old And in this moment
what we have seen is that the historical board has seen that the historical part it needs to be preserved and we have no questions about that It is a beautiful wondrous space within that area but those other spaces need to be
reupted and renewed so that they serve not only the purpose of the church but also the greater good of the community That is one of the hallmarks of First Miami They have worked to become a church for the community in the community and with the community And
while the development may at times feel strenuous it is also going to be a blessing because it's going to secure the future of this church for a long time And that future is not just for the people of that church but for the impact
it has as others have said thousands of events in care concern and in partnership with the community And so do hope that you'll consider and uphold that decision that was made about what's the difference between historical and
old So thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning dear commissioner dear attendees My name is Ezekiel Vaza I reside in 495 Brick Aave Uh this morning I urge you to favor the environmental
merits and uh neighborhood fabric of this area Um if you open up the map and search for any open green space like a natural area in Bickl north of the Rickenburgger Bridge you would find
pretty much nothing beside those two uh landmarks which is the Miami Circle and the Mary Bickl Park adjacent to the church Um I think it's a very significant drawing point um for
all locals in Bickl also for people who reside in uh downtown It's a must stop for tourist It's a drawing point for retirees and uh athletes and young professionals and children playing and families Um I do understand the need for
development and housing needs in uh in Bickl but not in but not for all costs I would say Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning Let me let me say good morning to everybody here I'm Delma
Gibson at 3661 Franklin Avenue in middle Bahamas You know every time I come up here I want to be thanking everybody and saying good morning to the audience And as I
walked in and saw all these young people here this morning I said something exciting is going to happen today And so it's good to see all of you and I hope all of you get your items passed I'm looking forward to that I'd
like to take a moment though to uh pay respect to Commissioner Reyes who is I read at the paper yesterday where he's back at the hospital I'd like to thank all of our chairperson and all our commissioners I saw Commissioner
Corollio here earlier but uh I'm really here for what reason And I wanted to be sure that you understand that this project that's going up at
3710 Grand Avenue that takes in a part of Washington Avenue and all over to Thomas Avenue that we're asking for an upzoning from three to four and we're
planning to house some 70 people in is building and units I mean and some are going to be able to purchase their homes if they want to others could rent and others will get affordable housing So
it's such a great project that's going to go up there And I think all of you will be very proud to see that the Bahamas is doing something that great at the CDC Uh you just heard Mr Fields chairman
of the board uh and all the people who work for them and of course our commissioner who knows all about this project Uh we all want to see it happen And so I'm asking for your vote this morning in favor of uponing and that's
all I want and uh that's why I came here Now you probably won't see me anymore coming up here but I enjoy coming up just to say thank you to this pair who works so hard the manager and the legal staff as well as our
commissioners and uh have you know that we the community really appreciate you Thank you again Thank you Miss Gibson Miss Gibson I just wanted to acknowledge your leadership and your great work for so many years I was very happy the day
that I was campaigning and I knocked on your door and I'm like "Oh my god is this Gibson?" Like you're an institution You have helped so much and thank you for coming here and speaking in favor of that item Thank you Thank you so much Like seeing you Good morning Good
morning commissioners My name is Kim Robles I am a pastor at Miami Shores Presbyterian Church and I serve on the administrative commission of First Miami and I'm speaking to item PZ1 I'm a supporter of First Miami
Presbyterian Church here in support of the historic board's decision and asking the commission to deny the appeal I love First Miami Presbyterian Church because of how it gathers people of all walks of life to the Bickl area I've seen the
church blossom with vibrancy in these last few years and as the community continues to grow I'd like to see it to be able to serve the wider community Um allowing this historic board approved adjustment to continue would allow the
church to do just that to continue to serve the community to the best of its ability And the areas that we're talking about are a parking lot and an educational building and they do not have historical significance The church can continue to
lift up and celebrate its history in the neighborhood restore that historic building a beautiful chapel and sanctuary and then serve the community to its fullest capacity And this is something that the wider church comm community desires to
see happen I witnessed it myself in a congregational meeting and a vote years ago So I hope you commissioners will understand the church's desire to serve the community and to celebrate its history So please help the church to do
both well by denying the appeal So I I hope you would uphold that historic board's decision and deny the appeal Thank you so much Thank you Good morning Good morning madame chair commissioners
Berlin Barton 3640 Grand Avenue 35 years working in West Coconut Grove or Village West for Little Bahamas First I would like to offer our sincere prayers for Commissioner Reyes's speed recovery I'm
here today again in support of 3710 Grand Landing which is Grand and Douglas Road The Thelma Gibson Health Initiative has worked in every area and every aspect of community development helping our residents to have a better life
Today we're asking you once again to support the upzoning from T3 to T4 About right but we are just asking for more units to ease the desperate plight of our residents who are leaving the Grove
in numbers So we ask your support today I ask your support in um approving the abson that has been requested Thank you very much Thank you Good morning Good morning Daniel Pena 200 is Flaggler
um and comm uh chair commissioners I'm here as a business owner to support RE1 the downtown cup I'm just going to give you 10 reasons why as a business owner I support it Uh the reason number one is on our last
event in Flaggler Street we brought enough people to fill the casia center five times That's reason number two is every weekend we have events on Flaggler Street Um the amount of visitors is larger than the amount of people that
cast votes for commissioner elections Number three uh we receive more people for the holiday village and the ice ring that ultra festival every day Uh 66,000 of those new visitors of those
visitors are new people that never gone to Flaggler before or at least for activities in the area Um the daily average uh attendance to our events
uh to to Formula 1 is the equivalent of a weekend of attendance to the Holiday Village Um events in Flaggler Street when we do them for the weekend or or for the holiday village I'm sorry It will fill
three countries Monaco Lichenstein and Vatican City Um there's 300 new business that have opened popups during these events Small business that have come to Miami downtown that otherwise couldn't open
there they have gone there Um the amount of retail vendors that have come during these events to downtown Miami could fill uh the day mall or the Bal Harbor Mall three
times Um more people have visited the ice rink than um the Palm Museum on a day And lastly it doesn't cost a penny to the city Thank you Thank you Good morning Hi Good
morning Um I was let in by someone saying that a parking lot isn't significant Well I'm here today because I am significant and I was also heard that a school isn't significant and I'm here today because I have a daughter and my daughter is significant and I'm my
home is significant My name is Delina Scarpone and I live at 495 Bickl Avenue and I'm here because people matter our community matters and we believe in you and we believe that you care and we believe that you will help us and we believe that we can trust you and I'm
here I I would not typically do something like this but I'm here because I care and I believe that we all go to bed at night and you all know the decisions you go to sleep with when you put your head in the pillow and we all know in your heart of hearts what's right and what's wrong and I believe in
you and I need everyone to pull together as a community this is our family this is our home and our home counts and it is significant and I know that the church is a lovely lovely historical property and I care about the historical property of the church but I care more
about our home Bickl is our home We live there We care We walk our dogs We raise our children We raise our families We raise our children to become something to become someone And we are significant And I the church is fine but we are
significant I count on you and I need to count on everyone in this room that we that we matter and we are important and we will be heard Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning commissioners My name is Richard Ray and
am I am a resident of Miami uh 4357 Southwest 5th Street I serve at First Miami in the uh music department and I've been a longtime member there and I love the historic part of our building It is where we worship to where we
gather and we have so much great times there Uh in addition to that we have great ministries The ministry that gives my daughter free music classes art classes we have craft we have all kinds of events And all that this is going to
do is going to allow us to preserve our building but also grow the ministries that are making a difference in our community And I ask you to deny the PZ1 uh amendment Thank you Good morning Good Good morning
My name is Reynold Martin I'm the president of Grove Rights and Community Equity known as Grace I'm here to s support uh RE2 I I think that fiasco we went through uh couple years ago regarding redistricing is something we
need to avoid I'm here to support RE9 I think the uh CRA is doing great work We're advocates of of affordable housing and anytime you can speak towards creating more affordable housing you are too I'm also a member of many organizations in the West Grove I not
only chair Grove rights I'm a vice president of homeowners and tenants association I'm a president of I'm a vice president of a new group call rights for life And I'm a member of so many other organizations in including St James Baptist Church where my pastor
stood up and said "Listen that issue coming before the city of of Miami commission on Thursday You all ought to be there to support it because we need affordable housing if anything in this community." And it would be remiss if I didn't come here and jump on the bandwagon to speak on behalf of the
project known as 3710 Grove Landing It's an answer to a prayer It it talks about affordable housing It talks about bringing jobs and and and training that will assist our community in and recreating itself and more than just recreating itself but making it better
So so I do support it I urge you to support it as well Thank you And my heart uh thoughts go out to the commissioner who's not here today Amen Good morning Good morning Madame Chair commissioners My name is Judge Joon Brown and I'm a
retired judge from Philadelphia who has moved to Bickl I am a member of First Miami Presbyterian Church I love the church I I find that we are all all the um the members of numerous countries yet
we are all one family and we all love one another So on be I'm speaking on behalf of item PZ1 and I want you to know that Reverend Christopher Bennett has done an outstanding job with reaching out to the community and bringing in new members to
our church Um I know the church has no desire to de demolish the church All we want is to preserve the history of the church As I will now ask you to please
uphold the um historic board decision and deny this appeal Thank you for your time today Thank you Good morning Good morning community commissioners Uh
my name is Alejandro Martinez and with the brickl homeowners association and I'm want to speak about PC1 I have an statement from our president Ernesto Questa and I'm I want to read it for you
On behalf of the Bricker Homeowners Association BHA and writing to express our strong support for the appeal filed by Icon Bickl Condominium number two association icon 2 regarding the decision made by
the historic environmental preservation board with respect to the first Presbyterian church property The brickl community has long championed a balanced approach to
development One that respect historical integrity while accommodating thoughtful process progress We support historic preservation on the entire church Thank you for your attention to this critical
matter Thank you for your Thank you Good morning Good morning Madame Chair Good morning commissioners My name is Deborah Sadro I am in here of support for First
Presbyterian Church of Miami I am here to seek your denial of the appeal to PZ1 You have heard how the church has helped individuals in the community on many many levels We've just scratched
the surface church has been there for a long time serving the community and we continue to stay there doing the same We are happy with the judgment of
the historical board um and it is our intention to continue to preserve that which they have indicated us doing so We take our service to the community as
you do very very seriously We ask that you kindly reject this appeal to PZ1 so that we may be able to go back to serving the community and serving the
individuals rather than continue with uh the processes that we thought we had already completed Thank you very much Thank you Good morning Good morning I am Lena Kura and I am a
Coconut Grove resident My daughter attends I Prep Academy downtown because our family sees the value in the highest quality of public education I Prep is the only prek to 12th grade school in all of Miami and one of the best ranked
schools in the entire country Our graduates are sought after by all the best universities especially the Gators and others in the state Go Gators Um as such my family and I urge you to vote yes on item RE9 number 16168 to approve
the second amendment of the OmniC which does such great work and give more of your constituents the opportunity to be a part of its expansion We urge the commissioners to work together and to not delay or derail the Omnic extension and its projects that would benefit our
students teachers and many other residents Thank you Thank you Good morning Gentleman King Commissioners and we are praying for uh Commissioner Reyes Good morning Uh my name is Alan Barson
and I just first of all I have to say that the views that I'm going to express here are mine and mine mine alone and not of my employer or or not of my employer So I'm here is in my capacity as a resident of Icon Bickl Tower 2 at
495 Bickl Avenue uh unit 10007 Um I happen to be a lawyer and uh one thing that uh they taught us pretty much on the first day of law school and uh Mr Weiselong you probably remember this as
well that uh they teach you that if if the facts are against you you argue the law and if the law is against you you argue the facts But if the law and the facts are against you you pound the
table and you yell like hell Okay remember that Of course you do So the uh uh this is precisely what the uh uh council for the applicant uh Iris
Escara is doing with by throwing a red herring into the whole procedure by challenging the standing of Icon Bickle 2 to actually bring the appeal Uh and I
was the one that spoke for Tower 2 at the December uh historic environmental preservation hearing And uh and it was plenty put on the record that I was appropriately there representing the organization not as a lobbyist but as a
member of the organization and that was accepted completely accepted by the historic and pres historic board Okay Uh and the uh city attorney also did not challenge that that uh that I was there
offici officially Thank you Well I just Thank you So I'm just saying that there is no argument that uh was raised then and it's certainly not appropriate to raise the issue now on appeal Thank you That horse is uh bolted Thank you Good
morning Good morning commissioners I am Pao Ranel I have been living in Bickl for 10 years And as I icon resident I want to raise a significant concern The first Presbyterian church a recognized
historic site risk losing its design designation for every history luxury highrise Allowing this development without giving all sites a fair opportunity to be heard sends a message that no historic site in Miami is secure
for private interest This could harm public trust in your decision and the preservation process If we truly value our cultural heritage please ensure that residents have a chance to voice their
opinion Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning My thoughts and prayers are with uh Commissioner Manolo Reyes and uh good morning uh Christine King and Miguel and Damian Commissioners appreciate your time My name is Aaron
Bril I'm the vice president of Icon Bickl Condominium number two association and also a resident of Miami The reason why I'm here today is I'm here to support the appeal of RZ1 and our community right now has been threatened and threatened to the point where we've
had a change.org or petition which had about 1,500 signatures on it taken down because of supposedly what was told as misinformation about the church However they're saying that the church is not being demolished but that there's a part
in the back of this Well if it's the part of the church it's a part of the church and that's a stating as a fact So the fact that the church the school area is is considered to be demolished that's a part of the church and that entire area is part of our community It's an
area that has been loved by residents and m Miami residents and the community as a whole And what we're asking you is we understand we're totally for prodevelopment We understand that but it has to be done in a responsible way and we are asking for a voice Secondly I
would like to point out at the first hearing that we had with the HPB board the board specifically stated that they were not pleased with the designs and renderings of that building and they said that they conditionally approved it only to make sure that on the second
hearing that they wanted to see new renderings Well guess what At that hearing there was never any renderings presented So first of all they didn't even follow their own you know agenda of what they wanted And the community is just a perfect example of how the
community never had a voice And all we're asking for here is your time and your voice and we appreciate you guys as your com as our commissioners to support and advocate for us as the community as a whole of the Bickl community So thank you for your time Appreciate it Thank you
Good morning Hi Hi everyone My name is Todd Suzanski I'm the president of the master association of Icon Bickl I'm also the vice president of the tower 1 association for Icon Bickl as well So we represent about 4,000 residents who live in the Icon Bickl community We're not
asking for you to halt the construction of what's going on at the church All we're asking for is a voice to be heard We want to be heard as a community Um we feel that the uh we have a right to the appeal and we would like to be heard and we hope that you will grant that request
Thank you very much Also we as Icon Brick Master Association I'm not sure if you're aware but we are the ones who are maintaining the park that's next to um the church and we pay for all of the the work that's done there We do the landscaping We pay for all that Even though it's a it's a community park the
Icon Bickl community is the one paying for those So we feel that we do have some rights and we should be heard Thank you Thank you Listen I didn't had to use this in Tallahassee this week I guess for the
record I'm trainer uh 3556 All Street and I'm here to support 3710 our landing project And let me say uh I just finished my 30th year of cooking a
paella in the city of Tallahassee for the entire Florida legislature And uh this year we were very honored to be supported by the uh speaker of the house who used to live in the grove but now lives in Kendall but
invited me up to his office to speak about coconut grove There is so much excitement going on now about Conqueror Grove and our commissioner He was up there with his uh his leg he uh all over the legislature
Senate office building and the and so we spent two days just hobbling around But anyway u ever since the project started with uh with the laundry and they sold and they got now there's so much energy
created to to be developing in the grove with with our little Bahamas And uh everybody's excited and I'm excited because I've been waiting for a long time working with Miss Gibson and everything to develop in West Grove I've always
felt that West Grove and the middle of the Grove who who wasn't you Todd was it You did the beeper No beepers We've got an agreement You know I have a policy that
you can compete and once anyone gets to your status I'm on a beep right now No I do not hold you to Don't go back on your word Now I'm not going to go back on my word You don't have to worry I won't go back on my word I I've only got another couple
of thousand words You go right ahead You go You've earned it You go right ahead Anyway I appreciate the fact uh it's civics and and and work but uh to walk those halls of Tallahassee and have excitement about Coconut
Grove everybody asking me what's going on in Coconut Grove How's it going What's it doing And I think we have a great opportunity with our project at the uh 72 units and some commercial and it's really going to be
great for all of Dade County but especially Coconut Grove And I see the the excitement now all the all the everything's picking up and people are coming down We got the already people moving in from the from the middle of
the Grove are now moving into West Grove because of the highrises going up and now we need we need the space So I appreciate all your efforts and listening and and uh is that you again
That was automatic That wasn't me It was It was Todd It was Todd Anyway I'll uh but uh Miguel that's always nice You're so interested in what we do in the West Grove and all over the Grove It's great
Christine you've done well and Mr Partardo Um we're I've got my thing He had his crutches So we're in unison But thanks for all you do for us and uh look out for us in West Grove cuz we're going
to do a lot of nice things I retired from the Cocoa Grove Arts Festival just so that I could come and go to work in West Grove because that's my legacy if uh I I there was an article printed on me uh about 20 years ago on what I
envisioned for Coconut Grove and the uniting of the West Grove which was one of those things and I so after all these years I'm getting with Miss Gibson and I'm helping out in West Grove So thank
you I enjoy being here Nice to see him And our city commissioner our city manager has always been very helpful for us too He's uh he started out our meetings about Coconut Grove So thank
you all And uh Todd thank you Good morning Morning Chairwoman James Torres um want to bring up RE10 I think this needs to go back to
the drawing board We're not in favor of this particular item at this point because it's not aligning with really needs to happen here And let me share a little bit of context on that If you're going to put this on the ele on the ballot for the election you're going to
have Commissioner Joe Kado possibly yourself and the mayor having an extension of an additional year But I think the verbiage and everything else needs to be reooked at this because Commissioner Gavea you came here to be an agent of
change Commissioner Partardo as well and I think the verbiage is incorrect as to what's being said here unless you're going to tell me I'm completely wrong which I don't think I am So I think this needs to be deferred and the verbiage needs to be reooked at once again Thank
you Thank you Good morning Good morning Brenda Bangor 1436 away 6th Street Um I love the R R E12 Um I've been doing events in Little Havana for the actually this is my 10th year celebrating in
Central America Independent Day So everything that we in enhance our culture is amazing So I'm support of saving the church parking lot or not And for somebody who's being in a
church and support the church all the time the most important thing is to have our people believe on God It doesn't matter what religions you are is something I have learned in the John H It doesn't matter if you're a
Catholic like a Proestian any whichever religion that you want to believe on As long the God is up front it doesn't matter the rest I just want to touch a little something I I I don't know which one items are off or not because I'm sorry I
was late Um but we would talk about yesterday uh in the legislation I we heard that there are changes coming for condominiums I just left the conference with the governor with the changes coming for the condominium association What is the city
of Miami especially the two commissioners who has more condo units is going to do about respecting the owners of the condominiums and helping them to get get
those people out of the boards they are stealing that they are not being truthful to the owners what the city of Miami is going to do and this is something that we need to work on it especially with the church onto thank
you thank you Is there anyone else that would like to be heard public comment hello good morning everybody Um I'm in support of PS1 of the appeal
for I for the whole BL community I believe after listen to everybody today here that we all agree on one thing Everybody loves the church We all want the church to stay The problem here is
that some people are considering that the parking and the school are not important and I believe that they do and they do it better for the community than having another highrise We don't need another highrise in Baker We are full of
highrises What we need is uh that open space because I believe in for a while there and people enjoy that open space It's an important open space It's not just it doesn't matter that it's not green but it's an open space and it's
what Briel needs because we enjoy to have open classes there yoga classes There are food trucks that during weekends it's beautiful to be there because there's free music and you can see families enjoying that open space It doesn't matter if it's green or
not green Briel need more open spaces where people can gather and enjoy as community and as family Thank you very much I'm sorry chair If I can have the speaker's name Ma'am Ma'am Can you just say it Uh sorry My name is
Laura Zari Thank you Thank you Thank you very much Is there anyone else here that would like to be heard Seeing none the public comment portion of our meeting is now closed Thank you for your advocacy
At this time I'm going to ask my colleagues if I might have a motion to approve AM1 2 and 3 Those are the meeting minutes from the January 23rd 2025 meeting February 13 2025 meeting
and February 27th 2025 So moved Second I have a motion and a second All in favor I Motion carries Gentlemen is there anything from the consent agenda that you would like to
pull for discussion That would be CA 1 2 3 4 or five Sure Mr City Clerk and chair for the record CR4 CA4 needs to be amended The resolution should read
174,900 instead of 174,800 Okay Okay Commissioner Partardo Nope All right Seeing none may I have a motion for motion Second for CA one two three four as amended and five I have a motion
and a second All in favor I Motion carries unanimously Gentlemen um for your information we cannot take up No that's um another one Anyone would like to pull the public hearing items PH
1 3 4 5 7 or 8 for discussion 137 or eight Uh-huh Four five seven and eight four
five Yes 13 four five seven or eight for discussion Um Todd and chair just for the record PH5 needs to be amended pursuant to
substitution memo dated April 3rd 2025 Got it I'm I'm ready for a motion if nobody hears a Is that a motion you like that chair Yes I'll make a motion So I have a motion
and a second to approve PH1 2 4 Wait did I say that wrong I'm sorry PH1 3 4 5 as amended Seven and eight I have a motion and a second All in favor Hang
on As as amended PH5 amended where And by the way this is a I I just want to say I'm very um honored and proud that you guys are helping me achieve this that this has been a long time in the in the making For the first
time the Alipetta U CRA will be established and uh you will also get the Omni CRA Congratulations So I'm I'm I'm very proud of the work that we've done Yeah What about that amendment Doug So I can
answer that Um the amendment came from your office actually um where um it was recommended that some clarifying language was added So we added section five which basically um says the city commission hereby makes a legislative
finding pursuant to section 163 355 and it just clarifies um the the notion was that we wanted to track the exact language in the Florida statute So this makes it even more clear So that's what the amendment was All right here If
um there's a motion there's a second Uh discussion chair item on on seven PH7 What I believe that's what it is That's the U Alipata CRA or is
it five I apologize PH5 What I like to get from the administration is one because I don't want to vote for something here that just has to feel good
uh and it can't be done later I have put a path before uh where it could have been done uh and quick immediately without anybody else's uh vote in the county or anywhere
else only the city What I need to know from the administration is one Mr Manager how much is this going to take away from the general fund each year Do you have those
numbers Because we can't be voting for hundreds of millions of dollars into the future But you can vote forward for no You can vote no and the rest of it can take the vote And I say call to commissioner Commissioner but I I need to get something in the record Okay This
is why we're here for No no no We're here because you want to disrupt this because before you were for it and now you're against it because you and I have a problem because I took the bay front trust and you're going to make everything here impossible to get done because that's what you're worried about
Okay That's why we're here Please let let's be courteous to each other and hear each other out Please he can vote no and that's it We're done But we have to call the question This is Venezuela right No you're Venezuela that you don't want to leave like Manduro just like you did with Bay from Park You're Venezuela
standing I don't we took a vote here I became chairman of trust and you're not happy with me sir sers sir chairwoman please allow each other please allow each other to speak we
don't have to devolve into you're right arguments let's allow each other to have their say and you will be able to have your say as well you were saying commissioner thank you chairwoman uh I am asking in the
administration First of all beginning with the first year that this would become uh a CRA to the last year how much money is going to be taken from the city's
general fund One two where's the replacement money going to come for the dollars that we're going to need for other city services like police like fire like
solid waste and many others This is why we have a an uproar in Washington right now with Dodge This is why this country is at the brink in the next few years of
destruction We have close to $37 trillion of debt that our federal government has been spending every year overspending several trillion dollars that we don't have But they got a
printing press and then we sell all that debt to wonderful countries like communist China so they could have our debt And for the first time we're spending more
money in paying the interest on that huge debt than we're paying in the national security defense for all of us in America And that trickles down to all the local governments Thank God that
here in local governments we don't have a printing press but we have an obligation not to be throwing money at the door and particularly when this community is being killed with the high
property taxes The property appraiser every year uh increases our taxes that we have to pay Uh it's wonderful They say their homes are worth so much more But it's great if you want to sell your home but but for the bulk of us who want
to live in our homes especially if you're retired uh it's becoming unaffordable to pay those taxes Therefore government has an obligation to lower taxes which we don't
Government is like a big sinkhole The more money you throw into it the more it wants to eat up And this is an example of not doing things in a responsible way And this is why I'm
asking questions that some don't want me to ask They don't want the public to hear I don't care if they have the votes here but this is information that needs to come out so that we know what we're going to be facing if this ever becomes
a reality The county does not care what we do with our money They're going to say "Okay we'll go ahead with it but we're not putting our money into it like you normally do in a CRA." Since you're worried Since you are worried about the government mispending
why don't we ask "Sir why so how much has he spent on legal bills that he's cost the city of Miami and No because what is he going to talk to Recess the meeting if we cannot each other to speak I believe our CFO is here to answer a
question Please answer the question that was posed uh through the chair Larry Spring chief financial officer So um just for clarification the item in front of you is just the finding It has nothing to do with the financial projections I put that on the record I I
understand that But if this becomes a reality finding what's the real money this is going to be costing us Larry So so the so the gross um the gross cumulative city tiff based on a 95% CRA
and some other assumptions would be 40,975 over 30 years You're saying 40 million that would be the tiff that would be generated over just the city side not the county side just the city side But is
that every year No No that's the cumulative over the initial 30-year period So you're looking at just slightly over $2 million a year average Yeah somewhere around So this is not an expansion then where there's going to be
the area that I was shown that monies are going to be taken from that like the other two CRAAS Well yeah it it would be it's it's the it's the geographic boundary that was directed by the city commission Um and this is the city's
gross portion at 95% Keep in mind um and I've put this on the record before and I'm sure this will we will get this feedback also from the county we were intending to do a 50% CRA at the end of the day If I add the projection that we
have for the county the cumulative between the two would add up to 131 million at 95% for both sides We were going to we were planning to go to this the the county and request that it
be 50% of that number So right You're going in the record Larry telling me that it's going to be slightly over $40 million for 30 years Yes Based on the projections we have and the assumptions we use Yes sir
So uh if if these not these are not the projections that I saw before it was a lot more money than that and this is why I was bringing this out in the open But if you're telling me it's only that it must be a very small
area because that huge area that I was seeing how could it only bring in uh in the property taxes that they paid to the city only We can share the slightly over a million dollars a year We'll we can share the detailed calculations with you So you know our estimates of tax base
increase what over that time frame with with those numbers I would be willing to vote for this if we kept this at 1.5 no more than 1.5 million a year anything over that comes back to the
general fund because at least with 1.5 in a budget our size uh we could find the money for it but not in the numbers that I was told before that was going to come from there Forget about in this way
this way uh I'm assured that we're voting in a responsible manner into the future So now we're saying 30 million excuse me 40 million over 30 years I'm saying if you capital
1.5 that would uh give you a lot more than he's saying on the 40 million uh and we're protected uh into the future into our general fund that we
need to pay every other bill for the rest of the city to the frankly with those kind of dollars with those kind of dollars why are we even doing this We just could allocated from each year's fiscal uh
budget to put uh aside the million plus dollars uh to an alipata you could call it uh whatever you want so it could be spent there and and I would support that I don't need your support I don't want your support I don't need Commissioner
Commissioner stop it Stop Are you finished I just need to put something on the record I'd like an indulgence if you By the way is is my thing I think sometime I'd like to ask him a couple because he's been rambling and rambling and rambling Stop it Stop You will be able to Everybody will have
a chance We don't we can save our rebuttals your comments for when it's your turn You want to put something on the record Put on the record So Commissioner procedurally the
presentation of the U redevelopment plan which will be on the we have it scheduled for the next agenda We will have attached the financing plan to that that that document What I'd ask the commission to do is indulge the staff
and the consultants the and give us the opportunity to sit and go into detail of the numbers I understand your policy directive We we're not battling that or we don't have any intention to oppose anything that the council excuse me the city commission approves Um just just
allow us the opportunity to get put give you that information The item today is really it's just the um statuto defining of necessity The finding of necessity I don't think anyone will disagree with the fact that there is need in Alipata I
believe Commissioner Partardo wanted to say something You you want go first I want to go first Can I go first I got a lot to say here It is it is my thing at the end of the day for my district right So I think I should be permitted to to speak at the very least Number one
uh number one uh I don't agree with that If he needs to vote vote Let's take the vote and he can vote no And that's his position and I respect that End the story So I'm not for that I can forget he can forget about that I'm not interested in in the cap Number two if he does want to put a cap then let's put
a cap on the legal bills that we're spending here on his behalf Okay That is over now $10 million in taxpayers since he's so concerned about the taxpayer Okay Okay And we have a fiduciary duty Why son How much has the gentleman spent here He's asking the facts now I want
the facts How much is he costing the city of Miami up to now Joe unfortunately I don't have those numbers with me I don't know how long I've been asking this question Why I've been asking this question forever You guys don't have the number You don't want to say the number What's the deal
here But so we could provide you with the total number of attorneys fees spent But remember many of these cases are not against this the commissioner They're against the city of Miami And there were city of Miami actors that were involved So um you know I could get you a grand
but the city of Miami actors but the city of Miami actors that were involved were involved because this gentleman took action against a gentleman that he calls the street boys Okay Not the other gentleman He and as a consequence the city fell into that I don't know how long I've been asking this question
Apparently all the math is here to mess up Alipata But but when I asked you guys a question how much money and I've asked this 10 times 20 times how much money has Do you now he wants to run for mayor is causing the city of Miami since he's so concerned about what we're spending
and he's so concerned about Washington which I am too by the way I am a federal Republican okay Let me put that on the record okay And I am to the right and I am also for saving the taxpayer money But when since we're on the subject that you want to talk about let's talk about that Why So I I don't know how many
times till I'm blue in the face asking you guys okay in email in in verbal conversations and that answer's never been been given I get the feeling okay that there's a something going on here that you guys don't want to say how much is costing because it's a lot Now Larry
you said that my my uh CRA the Yalipa CRA is going to cost what is it 40 mil over 20 years Let me ask you a question All right And in just a span of seven years or eight years that he's been here he's cost the city more than $10 million folks $10 million Because what he wants
to do now why he wants to talk about that he wants to torpedo my CRA because he was for it up until I don't know months ago But then all of a sudden when I became chairman of the basement trust then he put his guns towards me And that's what this really is about He's
trying to stop this Okay Maybe commissioner step instead of attacking us like you always do here take care of your neighborhood Let me tell you because I walked your neighborhood in 2023 and your neighborhood leaves much to be desired There's trash There's there's you know not being picked up
There's there's curb there's crime a lot of stuff You dedicate your time when you come here to attacking us on Spanish radio You've attacked my chief of staff You called him a communist I think you owe him an apology Okay But just because you're a Democrat doesn't mean you're a communist That's number one That's
number one Commissioner no You let him Yeah Yeah Yeah I'm not done No no no I'm not done When you talk you go on for 20 minutes and 30 minutes So now it's my turn You're going to respect me and you're going to let me talk Okay I'm not finished here No no I shut up and she told me to shut up So you're going to
shut up Go ahead Tony Yeah Shut up then and let me talk Go ahead Tony Yeah Shut up Soprano stop Stop Maduro what do you want Maduro What do you want Maduro Uh why sign Uh city attorney City attorney
Yes sir We saw city manager Okay I want the figure of how much he's cost the city of Miami and taxpayer I want it on my desk Okay No more games here Okay No more games because I've been at this for months and months and months and we never get we never get that that answer But I can tell I can it's it would be
fair to say he's costing in the millions of dollars in the span four five or six years since this lawsuit came up with the eight street boys Okay with the H brewers and let me tell you something else I learned uh you talking about the H3 boys and how they did stuff illegal and permitting I just learned that those
people aren't being paid because they were pushed to finish the roof in your famous fountain over there Okay And you talk hypocritically here about the A Street Boys and how they did this this and that and didn't get 10 didn't take out any permits and these people are not being paid now that we owe the money to
the tune of $400,000 because you commissioner got your somebody pushed them to finish this thing without a permitting system something that you say that everybody you know uh shouldn't do because you know we're the city of Miami you know but apparently you push for
that so your fountain can be ready by a certain time and now the gentleman isn't being paid for I'd like for that to be put on the record and look for it And if the gentleman did the work and just because they asked them to do the roofing before the the the uh the permitting was done because somebody had a need to show that that fountain that
the gentleman be be paid And I expect please the answer to the question that I've been asking for almost a year now How much has Joe cost the the the uh the uh city of Miami in legal fees Okay because he after all since he's so
interested in protecting and he's so interested now in saving the city of Miami money we should look into that and I got a couple of more things that uh that I'm going to say uh to look into things that he's uh you know brought up and I'm going to give him the answer By the way if you want to talk about arrest
I'm not scared of you We can talk about arrest today since you since you've been spewing on Spanish radio about this guy's arrested and the other guy's arrest and this that we I'm not scared of you You can say if you want to talk arrest go ahead Let's talk about rush right now Thank you Commissioner
Partardo I I wanted to talk a little bit about Commissioner Partardo asked to speak I wanted to talk a little bit about for the benefit really of everyone how what's important about that CRA Commissioner Gabella is starting a new CRA which means that if you pay $100 in
taxes and now you pay $110 those $10 goes to the CRA Why is the CRA important A CRA can focus on a geography in a way that the city can't the county can't the state can't So that CRA can really help
Alipata They can build affordable housing They can take care of infrastructure What's not what's important is not the total amount of that TIFF over 40 years What's important is the work that Commissioner Gabella has set forward which no one has done
before him in his area And what's important is that at some point he'd be able to get to the places of like Southeast Overtown CRA or Amni CRA where last year we put a thousand units of affordable housing where have a thousand in the pipeline We're doing the kind of
work that needs to be done desperately in our city that needs specific focus and action You know like I know that the city and the CRAAS work hand in hand As an example OmniCAR pays the interest for the port tunnel That's a city expense
that the Omnic pays We work together We're not we're not taking money away from you You're not taking money away from us The police that you put on the street the fire that you put on the street we put programs that can enhance you know those situ right So I think I think we're kind of missing the really
uh importance of what is a tool in our tool belt as a CRA which we're fortunate enough to have in Southeast overtown in Omni and now in Alapara And I commend you Commissioner Gabella for the hard work you've put in to get all of that done I also and I I'm also I mean my
background is finance I take very seriously being you know responsible and judicious and and not adding taxes And in fact Commissioner Gabbala and I voted to lower taxes in January of 2024 So I right we did you know so I think I think
we've been very consistent with being responsible and putting forward plans that really help our communities Thank you woman Um uh no wait one if we cannot have discussion about what is said on the
radio that does not have anything to do with what we are doing here It is not what our residents came This is not a circus I'm going to limit your comments to two minutes on this item Not radio not Bayfront Park This is about the
finding of necessity for the alipata CR only Two minutes and then we're going to take a vote But but chairwoman you let him go on into something that had nothing to do with that attorney's fees I need to answer that Okay He's done in the past That's
why each one of you have delved into conversations that has nothing to do with this agenda You have had your time You have He is correcting You've been allowed to speak 20 minutes 30 minutes And I'm giving
everybody the opportunity to do the same No one I didn't speak for 30 minutes Not today Not today I didn't say today I said you have No one here is innocent of straying off topic
And it is my job as chair to keep us on topic And we've just gone way beyond this item We are talking about approving the finding of necessity Please keep
your comments to that item only Commissioner Chairwoman I have to answer at least he went in accusing me Stop that
of $10 million that had not there Two minutes to respond to the 10 million Number one the individuals that he is saying that $10 million was spent they have sued the
city in numerous lawsuits for the same thing over and over again They have sued some of the top 10 uh executives in the city They have sued me uh and with the exception of a kangaroo court that they brought me to another
county in a jury in Brower County that will be thrown out uh later this year in appeal The last 12 times that they have brought me to court they have lost in court and they keep appealing
Now what Mr Gavella hasn't said is the relationship that he has with his people the fundraising that they have done with him how he meets with some of their uh employees constantly uh to conspire to
see how he could vote to approve millions of dollars for them to settle his bogus cases that are being thrown out one after another from the courts Having said that since I've been back uh
seven and a half years ago approximately I have brought to this city uh just in recurring revenue I'm not even going to count the time to time revenues Close to four.5 million a year You add that up
from the time that I've been here And even if I would cost the city what he claims which is not me it's a suit for everybody that they done they should have 10 guys like me that are going to be making the city a lot of money with ideas that they bring for new revenue
that he can come up with But having said that one last one last one Since I was mayor of this city almost 24 years ago during that time I came up with two ideas alone one that I had to push through Tallahassee and got it passed
But up to this date in recurring revenue and it grows every year have brought the city some $600 million since that time You show me one elected official in this community that
has accomplished that There are none So if you want to talk about attorney speech we'll talk about everything in including that Thank you Okay I get my two minutes now right Two minutes Okay first of all what he's saying like usual is a lie I do not meet with any of the
people that he's talking about That's number one He invents them out of the air Okay I've seen him plenty of times invent things here that has no merit nothing Well this gentleman not so far along he was uh on top of him for his campaign finances until one day Commissioner Part got tired and said
"Hey I'll trade you for your resignation and here's where I got my money from." And he didn't take it I didn't see him resign You know what I'm saying I didn't see him resign You know uh what I'm afraid of right now is the audacity that he has to do this kind of stuff and waste this kind of stuff This kind of
time that we should be working for you I I we I came here on a simple vote and he goes into something else because he wants to throw a monkey wrench no matter what because he's angry at me that they voted for me to become the bay chair This is all this is Before this he was getting along No problem with me I want
you to understand we cannot tolerate this I have too much respect for you out there I show up here at 9:00 in the morning I have too much respect for my consumer my taxpayer okay My kids Caroline Stacy and my wife Mary okay to do stuff that's not correct And
therefore I feel bad when we're wasting your time on petty things like this But the problem is this gentleman always goes back to the petty thing He can't control himself He cannot control him And at some point you must you must answer He's accused me of of of of everything in the in in the book and I
get tired of this because I wish manure that one day we would come here you know and not have this Okay But he started all he has to do is vote against it if he's not not happy with it and say his peace Yes And that's it But what he's trying to do is he's trying to muddy the waters Okay Muddy the waters after we
spent about a year and something doing this as when I got here Okay To to put a monkey wrench to stop this process Alipata I absorb the consequences of sub the 7th Avenue corridor the homeless situation I absorb that from all of the districts I need money I need to I need
money to fight that I'm pro police Ask the any policeman you talk about Okay When we gave them the the uh the salary increase Thank you I'm going to I'm going to abide Thank you Call the vote Now I'm going to do it one by one because if it's going to be a no vote
it's it's going to mess up everything So may I have a motion for PH1 and three One and three Move Got a motion Do a second All in favor I Okay May I have a motion for PH
47 and 8 78 Move Second Second All in favor I Now may I have a motion for PH5 Motion Second All in favor I I nay for the
reasons that I stated here as amended As amended by the way as amended with what you spoke about but not as amended with the cap that he was talking about I am not for that And let that be clear on the record Yes sir Okay Thank you Um are there any the RE items Are there any
items that you would like to pull for discussion at this time And we cannot vote on RE3 until after the Southeast Overtown Park West CRA meeting So that one has to be after the CRA meeting Any
of the RE items would you like to pull for discussion RE10 I'd like to pull for discussion R10 Yes I agree Anything else Uh can you bear with me one more time Take your time I'd appreciate it Thank
you You're pulling RE3 Is that until Yes RE3 has to wait until after the CRA meeting and RE10 has been pulled for discussion by myself and Commissioner Gabella RE1
is the underlying one Correct And we could pull that Uh and if we could pull our um let's
see if we could pull 14 Okay Anything else And we have U believe is RE2 here We could uh pull Ari too also please
Okay And We're talking about RE1 RE2 and U R14 that we uh we're pulling uh and RE10 from here Yes
And RE10 is being pulled also Okay Yes Okay So may I have a motion for RE 5 6 7 8 9 11 and 12 Motion I have a motion and
a second All in favor I Those items pass I'm going to come back Let's see if we can So sorry So one two and three 10 and 14 were one two three were safe for discuss
14 Okay Yes Thank you Um Mr City Attorney would you read into the record the title of SR1 Um Madame Chair Todd didn't raise his hand on RE1 There was a I believe a substitution on RE1 It's left for
discussion Oh I'm sorry I left for discussion That's why he didn't raise his hand Okay Um Mr City Attorney would you read the titles for SR1 and FR3 Those are the only two items that we have Yes Madam
Chair Um SR1 second reading ordinance An ordinance of the Miami City Commission amending chapter 2 article 11 division 2 of the code of the city of Miami Florida is amended titled administration boards committees commissions standards for creation and review of boards generally
to establish section 2-896 to be titled appointment of members to provide that the appointment of board members shall occur on a quarterly basis unless there is a time-sensitive appointment necessary at which time an appointment will be placed on the next available city commission agenda containing a
severability clause and providing ing for an immediate effective date Then we have FR3 first reading ordinance an ordinance of the Miami City Commission amending chapter 62 article 13 division 3 section 62-535 of the code of the city of Miami
Florida as amended titled planning and zoning Planning and zoning approval for temporary uses and occupancies permit required temporary structures in conjunction with permanent outdoor recreational uses or recreational facilities temporary uses on vacant land by modifying exemptions containing a
severability clause and providing for an effective date Do I have a motion for SR1 Can I just ask a question real quick This is not the appointment because I have a board member that I want to appoint No no this is the appointment So
motion or a second So I have a motion and a second All in favor I I s1 passes unanimously May I have a motion for FR3 Motion I have a motion second for SR FR3
FR3 Yes F FR1 and F FR2 have been deferred through April 24th Madam Chair I'd like to uh take FR1 because there are certain pieces of that that are going to require longer I think we set it for the second meeting in April Can we go ahead and indefinitely
defer that for now until I have a better idea when to bring it back I would need a vote for that Correct If I have a motion but currently we're on FR3 We're on Let's wait for that So F FR3 There was a motion by Commissioner Gabella seconded by Commissioner Partardo for
FR3 as is All in favor I passes unanimously Okay Um I believe there's a motion to defer FR1 the construction noise ordinance We'll just need to reconsider
F FR1 before we indefinitely defer it Okay May May I have a motion to reconsider FR1 Motion Second All in favor I I Now may I have a motion to indefinitely defer FR1 Motion made
Second Second All in favor I FR1 has been indefinitely deferred Mr City Clerk do you have any board or committee appointments for this meeting Thank you Chair BC3 Bayfront Park Management Trust Commissioner Gabella
will be appointing Christopher Panelis to the Atlarge Street currently held by Alex Cardinz May I have a motion Motion Second I'm sorry which one Um Bayfront Park Management Trust Christopher Panellis I have a motion and a second to
appoint him Good point Who Christopher Panelis or what Uh at large seat Bayfront Bayfront Park Management Trust currently has that seat It's Alex Cardinz Okay I have a motion and a
second All in favor I I motion carries DC5 Code Enforcement Board Vice Chair Cory will be uh appointing Ivonne Biona Do I have a motion Move I have a motion Do I have a second
Second All in favor I I I have Commissioner King as a seconder Yes Understood Okay Mr City Clerk BC13 Virginia Key Advisory Board the Village of Key Biscane has nominated Luis Casmayor to their vacant seat and is
seeking the commission's confirmation Do I have a motion Motion Second I have a motion and a second All in favor I Motion carries unanimously That concludes the boards and committees Thank you chair Thank you gentlemen I would like to defer DI1
DI1 Commissioners as members of boards I'd like to put a pause on that Second I have a motion Second and a second All in favor I I'd like to uh indefinitely defer that Okay
And all right we're at our PC items Let's Gentlemen would you consider going to recess so we can have the Omni Overtown and Virginia Pete meetings Okay At this time the
commission meeting will recess until 2 hours after the Southeast Overtown Park West CRA meeting the OmniCRA meeting and the Virginia Key Beach Trust meeting Thank you all for your advocacy Thank you all for being here and we will see
you later this afternoon Chair we're going to start with Southeast Oaktown Park West Correct Perfect Give me 60 seconds to flip the tape Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon Welcome to the Southeast Overtown Park West CRA
meeting for April 10th 2025 Let me start this meeting Welcome to the Overtown Southeast Park West CRA meeting Mr Executive Director Good
afternoon Madame Chair Uh we are ready to begin the meeting So uh Mr Brown at the appropriate time will read into the record the items that will be presented Thank you Please go ahead so that we can
go ahead Good afternoon Item The first item would be a motion to withdraw file number 16688 That item was previously and definitely deferred We want to withdraw that item Need a motion to withdraw that What is that RE1 RE1 Well item number
one Okay Thank you Okay Always love to see you That's the uh one that says CRA resolution Yes Okay Um may I have a motion to withdraw Yes ma'am RE1 What are we doing Withdrawing town
meeting We're withdrawing RE1 Okay Motion I got a motion I have a second Hold on When you said RE1 is the first item Yeah Grant to Miami tobacco manufacturer We're withdrawing that item
Yes ma'am Wait wait I have a different one here in one Um that might be Omni You are you in the Omni or the CRA Paul no no no I'm the um CRA I think it's the the Omni that I may Okay We're in um Southeast Overtown
Park West Which is this This is a southeast No I'm in the southeast Overtown Park West but there's an item one here for $300,000 Is that the one we're talking about that we're with Yes sir All right All right So I have a
motion and a second All in favor I Okay Item has been withdrawn Go ahead Item two is a resolution with attachments rescending CR A R-24-000023 approval of bond proposals RFI23-03 and its entirety and enacted a
new resolution to clarify project designated listed at in exhibit B Item number three is a resolution with attachment rescending SR23- 003 an agreement for enhanced police services in its entirety and
enact a new resolution to clarify the contract term provisions authorized director to negotiate and execute an amendment to the enhanced police services agreement substantially in the same form as attaching exhibit A and an amount not to exceed 955,5243
Item number four is a resolution with attachments by four fifth vote ratifying approving confirming executive director's recommendation and finding attachment incorporated as exhibit A approving additional funding in the amount of $34,725 support renovations and rehabilitation of the Dun Josephine
Hotel located at 1028 Northwest 3rd Avenue unit 104 Miami Florida 33136 for a total project cost not to exceed 932,2120 20 cents Item number five is a resolution with attachments rescending
CR A R-24- Z0067 series 2024 bond in its entirety enacting new resolution providing for the issuance of tax increment revenue bonds and an amount not to exceed $175 million to be used for construction or
rehabilitation of affordable housing finance of construction other capital improvements in the redevelopment area refinancing certain outstanding obligations Those are your five items Madam Chair Thank you And at this time I'm sorry Would you like to I got a motion And we have
to I apolog No No You're right May I have a motion to set the agenda Motion I got a motion and a second All in favor Agenda has been set Good afternoon everyone The public comment period is now open Good Good afternoon Good
afternoon Good afternoon Chair Chairwoman King and CRA board My name is Marilyn Hollifffield and I am a senior partner at the law firm of Holland Knight and board chair along with Hans
Autel and co-founder of the museum Miami Museum of Contemporary Art of the African Diaspora known as Miami Moat Thank you for this opportunity to speak in favor of the bond resolution which
will allocate $25 million to repurpose the former women's detention center into the home of the Miami Museum of Contemporary Art of the African Diaspora It was wrong to build a jail across the
street from Bookat Washington High School No other school in Miami Dade County has a jail greeting students every day Today we can make history by taking steps to write that wrong Instead
of a symbol of low expectations and crime Miami Moad will inspire from ashes of despair Miami Moat a museum of the future will bring hope
creativity and innovation Miami MOAD will leverage technology to offer tech infused student internships and provide art making and art learning experiences for students
Miami Moat will energize and support the surrounding community with employment opportunities centered around the repurposing of the abandoned jail and will ultimately provide jobs needed for
the day-to-day operations of the museum This is a historymaking opportunity to place Overtown at the center of art culture and technology Thank you Thank you Good
afternoon Hi my name is Pat Santangelo I'm here to speak on behalf of her item One thing is when you have a project like what they're trying to do the uh women's jail has been a sad experience for me my whole career as a state
trooper More important sometimes than the actual project is the people who are involved in the project I know Marilyn Holyfield I know Hans I know the people who are on this board These people are
of the highest integrity These are not people who go around the community like some of the poverty pimps that we see day in and day out in this building trying to get money from the city for frivolous projects This is a real
project turning a place that we try to avoid and our family tries to avoid at all costs into a destination that the entire community can learn about their brothers and sisters and neighbors and the city of Miami and the community And
I hope that you will be in favor of this item Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon Madam Chair commissioners Uh my name is Jean Tiny I reside at 74 Northwest 51st Street in the magic city of Miami and I'm here to speak in
support of um this item underscoring the points I wrote all already made I don't think we um uh it all happened so fast that you know some of us might still be just processing how much of an a hub
Miami has become as result mainly of uh Art Basel as a catalyst There were things happening before that And so as a destination this is a place that is um uh you know we have just unprecedented
opportunities to promote celebrate art you know as never before I don't think the point could be underscored strongly enough of the proximity of the museum to Booker T Washington the fact that here is u a place where students can do field
trips so to speak be inspired by uh on a on a daily basis Um and you know on that you know we make a lot of um there's a lot of buzz about subjects like the STEM agenda and so forth
um when budgets get crunched the first thing to go is art music and so forth These are the courses where students learn who they are These are these are uh so the presence of art cannot be you
know uh o overstated and uh with that just to um underscore Mr Santangelo's point um the personnel the folks who are actually working on this um you know when we invest we always have to look at the the individuals we're investing in
and here I think you have a very sound um uh you know vote of confidence um to go forward with thank you very much thank you good morning good afternoon hi there I'm Howard Herring I'm the president of the New World Symphony I'm
here to speak in favor of this project and the funding of this project I want to bring my perspective as president of the New World Symphony Cultural organizations lift neighborhoods and I know this from my experience in developing the New World Center the home of the New World Symphony and the site
of a significant number of community-based events I believe in the power of artistic experiences for everyone involved students artists and the public The Knight Foundation has proven with statistics that culture stitches communities together through
shared artistic experiences But there is a second consideration In 1979 to the bottom of the real estate market property on Lincoln Road turned over for $12 a square foot In 2015 at the top of that market same property turned over
for $7,700 per square foot What changed Culture came to Lincoln Road Miami Seed of Ballet the New World Symphony Books and Books the Arts Center of South Florida and the Regal Cinema Then when two derelict parking lots were
identified as a possible home for the New World Center we made our move You may be aware of Wallcast offerings I use this as an example Projection of our concerts on a 7,000 square foot primary facade of our building The Wallcast audience is an indicator of what happens
when culture changes a neighborhood 80% of our audience comes to groups of five or more It is instant community 75% have never purchased ticket to the New World Symphony It's a second audience 40% include Lincoln Road Restaurant and Retail in their Wallcast experience It's
a new economic center of gravity In the new home for Miami Moad they will stitch the community together It'll have significant economic impact They will be doing well and doing good It's a sweet combination Miami Moad doing well and doing good We will all be proud of this
investment Thank you Thank you Good Good afternoon Good afternoon Chairwoman and commissioners My name is Cynthia Johnson Stacks I'm a local government law attorney having practice representing local governments including CRAAS
uh for over 37 years So it's this is my first time on the other side of the podium So it's my honor to be here to speak on behalf of this project that I feel so strongly about and I appreciate the fact that you all are considering it
and see it in the same light Um as has been I'm not going to repeat what was stated but I I would just say from a personal perspective I remember riding by the women's detention center with my father who will point it out perhaps as a cautionary tale of what we shouldn't
do But this is an opportunity to flip that narrative to make something to as as to to bring the phoenix from the ashes so to speak to do something that would be good that would elevate the culture that would elevate the neighborhood and that would continue to
put the city of Miami on the path as a worldclass city I'm a taxpayer in the city and I wholly uh endorse this use of taxpayer funds for something that is so important to our city Thank you so much
Thank you Good afternoon Hi Hi Good afternoon My name is Sis Fuentes and I'm a resident of the city of Miami 461 Northwest 32nd Court Um but I'm here speaking also as the the pres
the sorry the director of the Kora Gables Museum Uh a building that was former police and fire station but also and many people don't know this had a courtroom and a jail So when I I learn about this opportunity this idea of uh
having mock Miami mock at such an important institution already even though you know many of the projects happen and online Um I I thought it was just poetic justice that we we have been
working together with uh Miami Mochat collaborating connecting community through our between Kora Gables and Overtown And I thought it was wonderful that we could also share this story of a a jail into a a a place where people go
to heal to learn about their history to find pride h pride in the history of the community And I think it's it's a wonderful opportunity I hope I totally as the former speaker said totally endorse my tax uh money go going in this
project Such an important project Thank you so much Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon Bill Talbert,601 Noati Drive Miami Florida 33133 Uh I've either lived or worked in
the great city of Miami for 55 years Uh in fact in this neighborhood uh I worked in model cities in the 70s before a lot of folks weren't even born But this is a great project Uh we're more than a beach You know we've heard that We're art and
culture We're neighborhoods We're diversity So I'm here supporting this for several reason I also want to say the Miami Museum of Contemporary Art of the African Diaspora For the listening public you hear acronyms the Miami
Museum of Contemporary Art of the African Diaspora I'll say it for my entire two minutes I'm here for several reasons but one of the biggest reasons is Marilyn Holoffield We've worked with her and followed her lead for many many
years She called she called many times years ago but she said "Can you come and support projects in the future?" And I said "Yes." So when she called I says "You know when what can I do?" move it Marilyn thank you for your leadership We're I'm here today because of you and
this project the Miami Museum of Contemporary Art of the African Diaspora Thank you very much Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon My name is Dwayne Robinson 2525 Pona Leon I come to
you on behalf of the historic and largest organization of black lawyers in Miami date county that is the Wilkey DF Ferguson Junior Bar Association Our board has voted overwhelmingly to support Miami Ry Moad This will be a tremendous jewel and gem for not only Miami but for Overtown I won't repeat a
lot of the comments that here today but I would want you to keep something in mind Miami is really the center of the dispersed African people Think about Haiti Jamaica the larger Caribbean Brazil the Americas Miami is at the center and we have a chance to make a mark here And so we thank you all for
your support We thank you for your time and please support this great effort Thank you so much Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon commissioners Juni Francois 1560 Meridian Avenue Miami Beach Florida I am an uh entertainment and technology attorney but today I come
as a proud graduate of Miami Carroll City High School Um this why this museum is important to me as a graduate of Carol City is because if a museum like this existed when I was coming up in the
public school systems here in Miami it would have taught me my culture my history As someone who has had the pleasure of traveling to Africa and back several times I know how important it is
for a museum that represents people that look like me and um students that are coming up So I support this museum I support Marilyn and everything that she's doing And I say let's go for it
Thank you Good afternoon Good after Good afternoon Madam Chair members of the CRA board My name is Kathy Shea I reside at 7865 Camino Royale in Date County Miami
Date County I'm a 40-year resident of Miami Date County And although I live in Kendall now I lived in Coconut Grove and even served on the city of Miami Commission on the Status of Women for a number of years I'm here today in support of this bond resolution and the
allocation for Miami Moad to return what was once a women's detention center to a vibrant cultural and civic hub then and now I'm a huge enthusiast
of initiatives that instill cultural pride and I've known Maryland for many decades I've seen Miami Mohead become from a dream from a thought to a vision to a plan to a series of programs and
hopefully now to a facility situated in Overtown That's a destination as Marilyn has often said for arts and culture and technology for around the world but also a destination for people like myself white people who live in Kendall who may
not come to the city of Miami too often So I thank you for your consideration of this um wonderful initiative and I look forward to seeing you all on opening day Thank you Thank you Good afternoon madam
chair Good good afternoon to our chair to our uh commissioners I'm Rick Beasley I represent two hats here One as a board member for the U Miami Visitors Convention Convention and Visitors Bureau but also the leader of the workforce agency for Dade County So this
project has two two fronts for for for me not only from a cultural side but also building talent for our respective community So I stand on behalf to express my unwavering support for this resolution to allocate 25 million uh to for the uh Miami Museum for contemporary
art of the African diaspora Uh this initiative represents an transformative opportunity for Overtown and our broader community Uh as you all know historically Overtown has been the beacon of African culture and heritage And by converting an abandoned jail
house uh into a state-of-art museum we're not only revitalizing uh a negative structure but also symbolizing the resiliency of this wonderful community we call Overtown Uh this metamorphosis will energize Overtown positioning it as a premier cultural
destination in the 21st century Miami Moad's commitment to integr to integrating art and technology will provide an invaluable resource for our nearby institutions like Booker T Washington High School Students will be
have the benefit from interactive uh art experience augmented reality workshops paid internships and fostering both educational and professional growth Furthermore this museum has the potential to become a global priv
pilgrimage site for the African diaspora attracting visitors all across the world in solidifying Overtown's place on the international cultural map Supporting this resolution is not just an investment in in in building uh this new
center but also it's about investing for our future for our community our youth and the preservation and celebrity of our rich African culture So I urge you to vote in favor of this allocation and be a part of his historical transformation Thank you
Good afternoon Good afternoon Good afternoon Uh my name is Alexis Brown Um I'm a native of Miami Florida I also serve on the multicultural committee of the tourism board and I'm also the founder um and CEO of Social Exchange which is a entertainment agency that
supports and celebrates black culture here in Miami Um excited and also nervous This is my first time ever speaking um at a commission or a chamber meeting But the biggest thing that um I want to share um in addition to all the things that everyone has said before me
this is the first of its kind in South Florida There is nothing like this that currently exists And as black people and people of color we deserve to have safe spaces to celebrate our culture to celebrate our history and to allow for others to come and to learn our history And so I just want to thank you all for
this time and hopefully I'll even support this resolution for this museum Thank you Good afternoon Good afternoon My name is Kerb Gardner I am creative director chief strategy officer and soon to be
the uh CEO and executive director of the historic Hampton House Um when I arrived at the Hampton House and in Miami I'm not from here I'm I'm in New York born in Tampa but live here
and in New York And um I thought about once I got it got ingrained into Miami I realized that Miami was could be an amazing gumbo Like it could be an amazing gumbo Why Because it's got Haitian community It's got the Jamaican
community It's got a strong Jewish community It has a white community But but it all sits in the pot and no there's no heat Nobody's turning the heat on to mix these different cultures in order to where we can experience them
all with the Jamaican community Not speaking to the Bohemian community because we all operate in our own different segments This institution is the right institution to bridge that divide and where we can go and understand the the significance and the
importance of art in the diaspora We have at the historic Hampton House over the last two years have had Art Basil Uh we are part of Art Basil VIP and in that space we are watching people coming in from Finland and from Japan All of these
people that are coming in to experience this culture in Miami beyond what they have now So an institution as MOCAD is so needed in in in this area such that people can get a real true flavor of
what all that makes up Miami And so you have an opportunity to turn this spot on to make this amazing gumbo for the city Thank you very much Thank you Is there anyone else that would like to
speak on any item for the Southeast Overtown Park West CRA agenda Seeing none the public comment period is closed And I would just like to add one thing that Overtown has two amazing elementary schools Frederick Douglas Elementary School and Dunar
Elementary School and more than just the high school If we can get those little babies interested in art and show them a a a new creative
space we are going to be making history just the exposure alone to our little ones and we have the opportunity to show them this throughout their educational career from kindergarten all the way up to high school We're going to get some
artists coming out of that space We are going to expose them to art and they're just going to take off and it's it's going to be a wonderful wonderful addition to Overtown and for the
families and the entire community and the US and the US So thank you Maryland for your vision and I'm so honored to be a part of it Commissioner
My request is very simple Marilyn and the rest of you Uh I just want you to make sure that uh you get all the good football players at Booker T Okay Not Florida not Florida
State the U That's all So um may I have a motion for RE2 three and four Second I have a motion and a second All in favor I Okay And because I wanted it to take it
separate so there is no confusion May I have a motion for RE5 A motion Second All in favor Motion carries unanimously Thank you all Thank you very much um is is there a motion to approve the minutes for the December 12th I forgot That's right May
I have a motion to approve the minutes for December 12th 2024 and January 23rd 2025 I have a motion and a second All in favor Motion carries unanimously And at this time we will take up the OmniCRA meeting chaired by Commissioner
Damen Partardo once Todd flips the tape Yes Give us 60 seconds And the South Top Rquist CRA meeting is officially concluded Mr Chair can we have public hearings quickly so we could vote for this
Chair Partardo we're good to go Okay Good afternoon everyone I'm calling to order the April 10th 2025 OmniCRA meeting Is there a motion to approve the minutes for the November 21 2020 Second All in favor Motion carries Uh public
public uh hearing We need what We need the public hearing Uh Oh I know I know that I'm about to say Well usually it's before not after but I'll take it after Well here it's not in that order The minutes do not require public
hearing All right there you go All right Um madame executive director briefly describe read agenda items CR resolutions one through six into the record Commissioner um RE1 is a resolution approving funding to continue
the enhanced police services in the Omnic CRA RE2 is a resolution approving funding for the real-time crime center cameras to be installed within the boundaries of the OmniCA RE3 is a resolution directing the executive director to return an amount not to
exceed $2.5 million from fiscal year 2025 reserve account to be returned to each taxing authority that contributed to the CRA trust fund RE4 is um a resolution that resins CRA
resolution R-24-000047 and authorizes a corrected subleasase agreement between the CRA and Winwood Works Manager LLC RE5 is a resolution for acceptance of propo proposal for construction services at
the historic firehouse number two in an amount not to exceed $320,000 um $700 to install the grease strap at the firehouse to be completed um in conjunction with the city of Miami office of capital improvements RE6 is a
resolution for the approval of the business grant program for 500,000 annually and for this item to be amended to include the microrant program The public comment period is now open for all items on today's agenda
Seeing no public comment uh we're going to go ahead and close the public comment period Uh is there any discussion amongst board members regarding resolutions number one through six No There's a motion uh for resolutions 1 through six And I will add to that with
amendments to include the program for small business grants as micro grants Yes Second Second All in favor I Motion carries That's it We adjourn the meeting Thank you And at this time we are going to
have the Virginia Key Beach Park Trust meeting as soon as Todd can flip the tape And thank you to everyone who came here even though we had no public comment There's activity ready Good afternoon Welcome to the
Virginia Key Beach Trust Virginia Key Beach Park Trust meeting for April 10th 2025 Madame Executive Director good afternoon Thank you Madam Chair At this time we would like to call the um meeting to order and we'd like to
approve the minutes for the Virginia Key Parks Trust special meeting January 23rd 2025 Move Second All in favor I I Thank you Uh at this time we would like to open public comment We're going to be discussing the
quarterly report updates from the executive director on the status of the historic Juni Beach Park Trust Seeing that there's no one here we're going to go ahead and close public comment Madame Executive Director I believe that um if my colleagues don't
need a report we have the report We can all read it Do any of my colleagues need to So may I have a motion to accept Motion second All in favor I Motion carries unanimously Thank you all The Virginia Key Beach Park Trust Meeting is
now concluded You had something to say but it's okay Come back at 3 It is what time is it Almost 1:00 Yes 3 We will resume the city of Miami commission meeting at 3:00 Part: 2
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here or the manager okay because it was so hot mr city Attorney would you please read the titles of the PC items yes Madam Chair
pz1 a resolution of the Miami City Commission granting or deny actually this is I don't need to read that title i'm sorry pz2 an ordinance of the Miami City Commission with detachments amending ordinance number 10544 as amended the future land use map of the Miami comprehensive neighborhood plan
pursuant to smallcale amendment procedure subject to section 163.3187 Florida statutes by changing the future land use designation from duplex residential to low density restricted commercial for the property generally located at 3424 and 3442
Southwest 37th Avenue 3714 and 3718 Washington Avenue and 3719 Thomas Avenue Miami Florida as more particularly described in exhibit A attached and incorporated making findings containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date
pz3 an ordinance of the Miami City Commission with attachments amending the zoning atlas of ordinance number 13114 the zoning ordinance of the city of Miami Florida as amended by changing the zoning classification from T30 suburban
transsect zone open to T40 general urban transsect zone open with a village west island district and Charles Avenue NCD2 neighborhood conservation district overlay for the property property generally located at 3424 and
3442 Southwest 37th Avenue 3714 and 3718 Washington Avenue and 3719 Thomas Avenue maintaining the zoning classification of T30 suburban transsect zone open with a village west island district and Charles
Avenue NCD2 neighborhood conservation district overlay for the property generally located at 3735 Washington Avenue and maintain the zoning classification of T50 urban center zone open with a village west island district
and Charles Avenue NCD2 neighborhood conservation district overlay for the property generally located at 3710 Grand Avenue Miami Florida as more particularly described in exhibit A attached and incorporated making findings containing a severability
clause and providing for an effective date thank you Mr city Attorney gentlemen are there any Would you like to pull PZ 2 or three for discussion or can we move on that it those
items now we can move now okay the that's what I'm sorry could you repeat that again i'm sorry for P only only PZ 2 and three would you like to pull either of those items for discussion no I'm I'm okay with it so
Madam Chair I'm sorry excuse me um yes uh just to add a quick note uh District 2 wanted to be added as a sponsor uh for those two items for the record yes okay okay our item
so not having any discussion on these items may I have a motion to pass BC2 and three second i have a motion and a second all in favor i fire items passes unanimously and would you like to let's
go back to the top of the agenda um where where are we going now we're going back to let's see what we haven't finished we've did we've done that we have our E1 for discussion well should
we with all due respect Chairwoman to finish PC1 that's probably the one item left that you have the most people waiting for well actually we have some folks prepared this morning from the underline for
RE1 um yeah but the underline is to ask money from us this is something that uh will make additional money for us in the future it's up to my colleagues which ways you guys want to go
i don't care whatever you guys want let's go ahead and do the hub appeal pz1 okay this way we're done with all the PCs okay pz1 here mr city Attorney would you like to give us some guidance on what's about
to transpire now yes Madam Chair uh this is an appeal um from a determination uh of the historic environmental preservation board the um the appeal the appell I would suggest that you give the appellant um an
opportunity to um address their appeal and the uh respondent an opportunity to respond the the threshold question uh there are two questions but the threshold question in this case is the standing of the uh the appellant to to bring this appeal to the city commission in the first
instance and what is the city attorney's opinion on this and the the the issue um that the appellant will have to demonstrate is that they have standing uh as a party under Florida law the Florida law standard is whether they suffer a special injury different in kind from
members of the general public that is the issue that they will have to address as a threshold that's the only criteria those are the only elements for intervenor status well for for taking an appeal to the to the commission
special injury different in kind from members of the general public okay from members of the general public madam Madam Chair I wanted to add one thing i know that a large group of people here came out because they felt not heard or couldn't be heard at the H
board so I want to make sure outside of the intervenor status and and the legal technicalities that we're working on here that there is an opportunity for that voice to be heard by the commission i'm sorry say that again by the commission by by us just let them speak
have their time to say a few words well they did already in public comment they did in public comment but as part of this I I think if I'm not mistaken what they were asking for was a a another meeting
not because they were heard today but I think resoundingly what I heard was that they wanted to have they were asking for it to be remanded back to the headboard which complicates the actual transaction it's been worked on for a very long time right i just want to make sure if it's a
matter of a few minutes to add to uh the presentation that they would have that ability to do so we did hear them in public comment i mean we did i don't think they would say something different and I did i I took notes i wrote it down
so we did let them talk we did they were heard um Go ahead yes my only concern is and we get guidance from the city attorney that if by doing this we're
going to open up Pandora's box for future uh individuals that want to come back after they have had their due process commissioner I would suggest that um
that the u the representative for the appellant be given an opportunity maybe three minutes to state their position uh also give the respondent an opport an equal opportunity um it's of course up to the discretion of the commission to allow any of the comment but I think
that just as far as due process goes I would just limit it to just the the parties i just wanted to hear from you that it's not going to affect anything going into the future that we would be making a president for the future i think you're okay with that yeah I think as long as you limit it to the the
party's representatives speaking on the behalf and with a limited period of time I think you satisfied due process and I think you haven't said a very good if you could please define special injury okay um I'm going to I'll restate what I
said but I will also let Assistant City Attorney Amber Keter um fill in any uh additional information that she would like to since she's done uh some of the research on this but generally what our code says is that to be an appellant you have to be a party that has
suffered in has that has standing under Florida law a party that has standing under Florida law the standard under Florida law is whether you suffered a special injury different in kind from that of the general public and that is the standard and
that's the threshold that they need to demonstrate can you give me some case law on what is a special injury i'm because you're just talking in circle i don't know if any of my colleagues understand what a special in Commissioner Gabella do you No listen what I understand is that instead of
rather than the whole group talking because they already spoke right the representative which is this attorney we're going to allow him to to speak right and and then we fulfill our mission of letting the appelllet right get his piece so later on we're not sued in in court you know but you know listen
we can say that when you guys built some of you guys uh live in Icon Bickl and I'm sure that sometimes nobody wanted Icon Bickl you know and I'm sure that were those guys that didn't want Icon Bickl did they were they specially injured with this thing what I recommend
um madam chair commissioners is that you let the uh appellant state their position and what they what their basis for special injury is i I would recommend you allow the respondent to respond and then we will address if
asked what types of applications constitute special injury i think without knowing exactly what the appellant is claiming as a basis for special injury it's I think it's I think it's more productive and useful for the commission i understand i understand as
a practitioner I would not be listening to something if I didn't know the definition of what special injury is different in kind so you go ahead you guys are just you know you're just walking around in a circle and he could say whatever he wants to say but if we
don't know the definition of special injury we'll give you a right now as a threshold we'll address it again if I'm sure the court has addressed what a special injury is read you the definition because there must be some guidelines for us to understand what
constitutes a special injury you don't give a definition by giving the word of it again you don't define a text by saying it's a text you don't define special injury by saying it's a special injury i'm I I'm not trying to be
argumentative here i'm just trying to give them the best shot at making their position known with us having the information in front of us we will we will right now amber Keter will give you the definition of special injury
madam Chair I have a point of order before we can advance i filed on April 4th can you wait hold on let me just We have a habit of not finishing our thoughts definition of special injury so the the main case um in Florida it's a
Florida Supreme Court um Renard and Verde County and determining the standing um factors include the proximity of their property to the subject property the character of the neighborhood including the existence of restrictive covenants
and setback requirements and the type of change proposed um the fact that a person received notice is also in a factor um none of these so the the situation needs to be evaluated um as a
whole none of them are just are one factor um for example the the fact that um a property is across the street or adjacent um doesn't automatically entitle them to standing um courts have also found that noise and traffic in
general do not constitute special injury um there's there was a recent case out of the fourth DCA that I I thought was helpful which was Everett Brothers Recycling verse Martin County um in that
case there were there was a competing um scrap metal business that was opened across the street from another one um and the court found that um there are allegations of of um financial loss due to competition thus dirt pollution noise
and traffic would have been suffered by all property owners in the area and plaintiffs lack standing despite their property being across the street um so it has to be not only um a a general injury
um in degree but in kind so it has to be different so everybody's going to suffer um noise everybody in the area everybody's going to suffer from traffic it has to be different and kind thank you so I'll address it hold on a second you
said um Madame Chair Iris Escar and Carlos Diaz offices at 333 Southeast Second Avenue i have a point of order um to be heard before they can present their action and that is that Icon 2 association was not present at the lower
HEP board hearing so because the ICON 2 association was not present at the lower board hearing they do not have standing legal standing to be able to appeal this item to be heard today i need to preserve the record i need to put in
facts in the record to make sure that in the event that this item advances that our legal rights are preserved because allowing them to advance is actually a violation of our due process that you can have one person speak at one hearing and then somebody else appeal and they are not the one and the same mr city
attorney Mr snow so typically um we do require somebody speak in the lower hearing to have the ability to appeal um
if Mrs scar wants to extrapolate on you know the the facts of this case and how they don't meet that um we're we're we're happy to to hear that it's my it's my understanding that somebody had
appeared below um asserting that they were from that association um and that's that's kind of all we we know on the record if I may introduce into the record some of the information
regarding their lack of standing quickly go ahead so wait wait i just Is what she said in fact true yes during the HEP hearing did someone not from the lower hearing
and the the rules that she just cited is that true the way the code reads is that an agrieved party someone who can appeal is has to be an agrieved party who has standing under Florida law
so there's two things there one is you have to be a party not a person a party which indicates that you had to have been a party before the HEP board that is the issue that Ms escara is talking about and that I I would suggest that we should hear both sides and what their
facts are based on whether or not the u the appellant was a party below then the other element we talked about is standing under Florida law so party and standing under Florida law go ahead sir if I may yeah if I may I just need to put this into the record because in addition to the code provisions with
regards to I think what Mr greco is putting into the record with regards to the ability to appeal and the standards the historic preservation board has specific official rules of procedure of the city of Miami that they have adopted so these are in addition to the city
code provisions and the appeals in section 7H says a decision of the board may be appealed by any agrieved party consistent with the code who opposed and presented testimony on the item before
the board so the person must have been present at the lower board in order to be able to appeal in this case Mr barson one of the gentlemen that spoke as part of the public comment this morning clarified that he was here in his individual capacity at the lower board
he also said that he was there in the individual capacity and then as he continued to present said "No I'm here also on behalf of icon 2 and I'm also here on behalf of the master association but never introduced any evidence that he was in fact and he is a lawyer." So
he too in law school would have learned that in order for you to say that you represent a client you have to have official capacity to be able to do that in Miami you also have to register as a lobbyist on behalf those are the rules that we all have to follow no evidence
was presented that he had such an authority on behalf of the icon 2 association or the master association and at and he did not appeal during the prescribed appeal period as an individual rather the association the
icon 2 association represented by council filed an appeal had the proper authority they introduced a resolution of the icon 2 association stating that they had authority so I just wanted to be clear that the record that at one hearing you had one
person present individually and kind of say he was representing different parties but ultimately he was there on his own capacity because no evidence otherwise was presented and today as part of the presentation here he clarified that he too was not here on
behalf of his law firm in any capacity other than as a unit owner as a unit owner he would have had the right to appeal but for they waved that because they didn't he did not appeal during the appeal period they hired counsel which is here present today and filed an
appeal another item that I need to put into the record is that the appeal period the appeal fee pursuant to chapter 23 there was no receipt in the record with regards to the $525 that are required they did put into the record the invoice for the notice fees but not
the appeal fee so I want to preserve the record and make sure that it's clear that the appeal fee was not filed to the best of our knowledge nor um was any evidence that Mr barson in any capacity represented the association icon to or master city attorney
first um I want to also kind of step back for a second if there are any Jennings disclosures that need to be made I have one okay all of us I'm sure okay i also have one so with respect to what Mrs escaro said
number one I think I think that section that uh talks about uh the the HEP rule I think that pertains not to changes in designation but I think it changes certificates of appropriateness i think that it just says a decision of the board it doesn't necessarily limit to
what items it just says a decision of the board i think uh under section was it seven section seven letter H seven relates to certificates applications for COA understood also I would say that um the code takes precedence over a HEP
rule so and the code says party it's the same result really you have to be a party so the question is factually were they a party below if they weren't then under under the they wouldn't be able to appeal so that's that's the first prong second is standing the first is were you
a party below and I I recom I mean I we've already I think heard some um but I I would recommend you you hear from the other side we're going to go ahead and hear from the other side good afternoon sir good afternoon um and just to clarify we're talking three minutes or five minutes
it's up to the chair chair I think you could get it all out in five minutes okay thank you thank you commissioner um uh good afternoon my name is Larry Silverman from the Sidley Austin Law Firm 101 Bickl Bay Drive in
Miami below the representative of ICON came before the HPB and asked to intervene and at that point the HCPB considered that request and rejected it
by a 5 to3 vote so they heard him they considered the intervention status and ultimately denied it which for this appeal this is an appeal only of the question of whether that 523 denial is
supported under law we're the party that lost that decision 523 and that is what we are here for the Miami code specifically sets forth that we should have won that decision 8 to zero because
we are an abuing property under the code that we are across a public square that makes us an abuing property we should have been allowed to intervene all of this could have been avoided you know they call snatching defeat from the jaws
of victory we would have put on our historian we would have put on some evidence and at that point the HPB could have ruled on both sides we are here not as a referendum on construction in district 2 and Bickl we are here
appealing that 5 to3 loss that we had on intervention status we are absolutely entitled to intervene under the code in addition um commissioner you'd asked about uh special injury in the different cases um I would look at Carlos Estates
versus Dade County 426 Southern 2nd 1167 we cited and described when special injury is and isn't required in our appeal at footnote 12 on page three so we covered that issue so where we are
here is that we came forward during the HPB process to present evidence to put our our historian expert up and to put our evidence in so the HPB would have a full decision at which point if that intervention would have been
granted we wouldn't be here and ultimately council for the petitioner for the church below objected to our standing and therefore it wasn't granted and at that point they didn't raise any of these issues regarding the standing
of um of the icon representative or some alleged requirement that doesn't exist in the rules regarding showing proof at the time that you show up as a lawyer that you're representing the people but ultimately the HPB understood what was
requested they were it was specifically ruled on by the HPB and we lost five to three on the intervention status so that is what we are here to appeal that we want that overturned so that this is remanded we get intervention status we
put our evidence on and at that point the HPB hands you a decision that in includes both sides of the stories what does Dr sue said about the Lorax he speaks for the trees we speak for the neighbors and HP doesn't have to agree
with us but they darn as the a budding property owner are supposed to let us talk if I may ask a specific question does that conclude the presentation on they're seeking intervenor um in terms of the presentation we were
asked at the outset to present our argument as to standing um and that is what I am addressing i presented my I just want to make sure the order here is is followed we presented our case as to why they didn't have standing i believe he just
stated why he feels he has standing so from a procedural perspective their appeal is of the intervenor so that's why I'm asking specifically does that conclude their case as to the presentation as to why they are an agrieved party and should be intervenor
yes and again at that point again you've you've uh repeatedly preserved the record the next step after this is obviously first year sir Shirari in front of the circuit court on the interven on the intervention status but we are not here as I've said this is not
a referendum on the underlying question of whether or not um they should cut the church in half and dehistoric half of it we never got to present that and now is not the first time madam Chair may I ask a question may I ask a question yes um
so counselor this is a denovo proceeding of course um it's an appeal uh you for your for your client to have appeared properly before HEP you had to demonstrate intervenor status um which is similar to uh the the the special
injury standard uh that is required to appeal um is there any other facts or argument you want to make as to why your client was uh both a proper party before the historic environmental preservation board and uh was a suffered special
injury here um two twofold and again this is all set forth in our written appeal itself but first of all the question we were recognized as a party for the request for appeal so that's what we are appealing I believe we are a party to that extent to the extent we
have a special interest from the rest of the world I'm I'm sorry but didn't didn't he deny your intervenor status that's that's correct but to be a party you would have to have successfully intervened if he denied your request to intervene Heep didn't think you didn't uh accept
you as a part your client as a party correct if they did by accepting it considering it and rejecting it they recognized that we were the parties that asked at that point to the extent that under the what is set forth here that
well if you didn't if you rejected party status then you don't get to appeal at all doesn't make any sense under the code we had an absolute right to appeal to appear and therefore if they denied
that the HEP denied our request for intervention that I am a party to that decision i am not a party yet to the underlying decision of HPB to approve
the desation but I am absolutely a party on that request for uh the intervention status because it is reflected in the record they discussed it they had a vote they know who was asking and that's what we're here on now that flips into the second question on on injury it is
specifically set forth in the code that an adjoining property has a right and so we keep talking about special injury we our our standing and right comes not just from the injury um provisions as in
like a Carlos estates but from a violation of the code itself we are a specified party but even as set forth you know we certainly have a special injury because we are we are an adjoining owner there is no I don't believe and again this is set forth in
our appeal the idea the special injury requirement as set forth does not apply to appeals by adjoining owners it is set the code set allows us standing and the code allows us to appeal if we lose i
think that just to correct that I think that the to appear before HEP uh to fall within the definition of intervenor then there's a distance requirement plus a special interest that standard is similar but stated differently to appeal
to the city commission to appeal before the city commission the standard is you have to be an agrieved party that has suffered uh that has standing on the floor of law which means you suffered special injury Um I think a I just want to make sure that the commission
understands what your grounds are for a being a party below it sounds like it was because you requested it i think I would say that in court if I request intervention as a party and the court denies me intervention I'm not a party i could appeal it but I'm not a
party at that time and I would also suggest that um beyond that you you have to you you would have to state whatever facts that you rely on to demonstrate special injury it sounds to me and correct me if I'm wrong that you it's
proximity it seems like proximity is what you're relying on is a joining status not proximity from the circle perspective but adjoining status from the code that provides a presumption in s in when you were in a joining entity
now we are within you know 100 ft and again the again the separate section of the code provides for permissive intervention when you're within 500 feet and that's the one that talks about a special injury but there's the separate section that talks about specific
standing specific specific presumption as as an adjoining basis it is a matter of public record that we're within 75 ft of uh of the line so and and I guess the then the argument is
and you know is whether you're adjoining you know I understand that under the the definition of intervention for purposes of a hip adjoining would there would be presumption that you have standing then there's the distance requirement in which you also have to prove special injury and then of course there's the
again the appeal where you have to prove special injury uh unless you're you demonstrate that you were an adjoining property and I and I don't know if that's a point that's conceded um but unless you unless you show that you have to prove special injury you have to
prove that and uh so if you were to prove special injury it sounds like from what you said you were relying on proximity and that's what you're relying on tell me if I'm wrong um not proximity in a radius sense but under the code
proximity as a joining Mr city Attorney um yes Madam Chair do my colleagues have any questions no I got questions for him we're done with I I
I think I I I think City of Tyranny has made it clear that he's got no standing if I may put into the to the record Commissioner Gabelli you said you have a lot of questions no I I So look it seems
to me I heard you know this looks to me like a case where you know I can build I built I live here but I don't want anybody to put another building across me even though some here are living in a 40story building or
higher that's what it seems to me number one number two that that headboard is tough okay that headboard is tough okay and I you know if if they turned you guys down already and and that's what you're saying and they all and you went in front of them and now you want to
circumvent them because you don't like the decision that they took it it seems to me that this is an open and shut case very simple you know um they don't have standing is what I'm what my my
conclusion is is is coming to and so therefore um I would say I'm ready to vote on that they don't have standing plain plain and simple they take they took their case to the headboard those guys are tough those guys are tough as as Durm okay and they said no you know
and and and by the same token sometimes you guys get mad when we go against the headboard now you're telling us don't go with the headboard have Have you heard that guys that you know oh you know the headboard says this you guys got to do that oh well now we're doing it with the what the headboard says except you guys
don't like the outcome and now you're telling us so don't do what the headboard says because we don't like the outcome so I'm I'm ready for a vote with with all due respect and nothing personal against all of you guys out there uh I make a motion that he does
not have any standing based upon the clear record uh second that was established by the city attorney using his own words here madam Chair I just want to make sure that what's provided for the record could be just stated
before we vote so um we allowed you yours i'm going to allow two quick items to put into the record the Icon 2 Association is not an abuing owner the city of Miami owns
Bickl Park icon 2 association is part of a three tower phase that was developed um by that related group many years ago their condo association is actually this one there's one three and then there's a master but their condo association here the city of Miami owns Bickl Park who is
in fact our adjoining adjacent owner the Bickl church site is here this is the portion to be demolished this is the portion the church that's to be preserved in perpetuity nothing is happening here only here second item I want to put into the record is that the
icon 2 association in and of itself is not a property owner they are a manager of the common elements however the areas of common elements are owned by each individual owner so the city code requires for intervenor for someone to be a property owner and to be adjacent
the association is not an owner and they are not adjacent that concludes my presentation in response to their comments and do you have a rebuttal sir i I do do you I do uh chairwoman uh first of all we agree that you should take into consideration the map that is
before you what is between Icon 2 and the proposed property is the city terrace again as uh Commissioner Coryo noted um if
the if the ruling of this commission is as a matter of law we don't have standing all I ask is say it like that again that way we can that way and again that's not your problem but that's I understand let me let me be clear it's a motion to deny based on standard
great second let me get some clarity from the city attorney's office because we are voting to uphold the HEP board's decision you're moving to deny the appeal based on lack of standing okay
that's the motion commissioner he amended his motion i have a motion and a second all in favor i I motion carries unanimously as amended as amended thank you very much everyone at this time we'll take up RE1
i'm not sure who pulled RE1 for discussion it was pulled in a series i was I believe it was Ko yeah in a series of uh items in the RF right i'll let the U maker of the motion begin
uh anybody else want to discussion on this item i didn't pull it for discussion i I Well I pulled it and the clerk can't hear you okay i'm
sorry one of the key issues that uh we have u uh with uh re1 I'm sorry one the the underlined u this is a question to the administration
um I'm I'm confused with what we have here and I believe there was a memorandum that uh was sent um what is the amount that we're talking to give to the
underlying uh now right for this fiscal year it is a $8.7 million commitment over the first five years of the M for the Okay so it now has changed to the first five years because what we had before was 2526
correct there was a substitution So the full amount of the 8.7 is during five years yes sir did we have any kind of commitment to give that from before or is this new i believe there was a resolution at some
point when was that resolution do we know i would have to research and bring that back for you well we we need to have that because Yes sir i'll get it to you shortly if we're voting on a past resolution I want to know what
commitments we have but beyond that while the manager is trying to find out uh when we had a resolution or if we had a resolution um where is this money coming from for
this fiscal year's aotment since I don't believe it was approved in our last fiscal budget for this year and to be to the point I'm getting concerned out of all the millions that we're adding on to a budget that were
never approved uh before when we did our fiscal year's budget and how much of that is going to start coming out from reserves because we don't know what
turns the economy is going to take and we need to have good reserves so Larry Larry's on his way down we're just upstairs in a MFP meeting so on his way want to go to the next one then so um we can move yeah we can take up uh
Okay RE3 may I have a motion for RE3 motion i have a motion and a second all in favor hold on as amended as amended pursuant to the substitution memo dated April 8 2025 that's the southeast department we
had a take this after we were voted in Overtown yes so RE3 as amended i have a motion and a second all in favor i and I'm sorry Sheriff if you could say who the mover and seconder was again i'll be moved by Commissioner Gabella second by
Commissioner Cory okay um we go back to RE2 re2 I believe R14 was taken off the the Russell here right am I correct that we're not discussing R2 sorry R14 yeah he said RE2 now r2 the only thing that I
I want to ask the city attorney yes sir uh we have two questions in one which I think that creates a legal conflict in putting a charter question because people might want to vote for one but not for the other and vice versa and The
first question put to the voters says something that is state statute we can't do so I don't know why we're doing this if the state statute clearly says that we can't do and that's to prohibit the drawing of city commission districts with the intent to favor or disfavor a
candidate or incumbent that's the first question and this state law you can't do the second one is establish a citizens redistricting committee to draw districts after each census and when required by the law etc etc these are
two distinct questions that we're putting in one either you got to divide them in two separate questions uh to the voters or you take the one that already is state law uh
that is that doesn't make sense if we have a law on it that we're putting this in a referendum yeah i would um essentially respectfully disagree to the extent that this is all related to
redistricting a new procedure process for redistricting so I agree with you that the language about um not within the time the statutory language but I I view that language as sort of belts and suspenders that was comfort language for
the uh litigants in that case um because that statute could change but it would be the law of the city if that statute were to change so they felt very strongly about that language and um I think it is all related because it's to
prohibit the drawing of city commission districts it's all about the drawing of city commission districts um well that that is correct Mr city Attorney it's it's about that but there are two very distinct questions that are being put
into one what I'm saying is divide it up so that people could vote for one and not for the other if they don't want to or they could vote for both but they should be divided because I I think we're opening ourselves up for this to
be challenged right and I don't think they want that nor those that voted for this want that either here but we during the settlement negotiations and and essentially this is their ask this is the question that they wanted and this
is the question that we agreed to put forth for them we did not guarantee that we would support it or fight for it or anything like that i understand that but so that's why I'm saying to if if we have a commitment to that we have a Yes sir then put it in two different
questions and um I would just I would hate to cause an action that could lead us back into federal court um would lose because the same day that we voted on this the
Supreme Court uh came down with a decision uh that reflected heavily on what we voted for and would have been debt set against them if we would have appealed the judge's uh orders
well that's unfortunately I think that ship's kind of sailed in that the action would be simply a um motion for contempt of our settlement agreement because while we didn't have to agree to this language we agreed to this language
during the settlement of the case that I understand that's all the judge would focus on what I'm saying is the following there's nothing that says we cannot place the language that we have here in two separate
questions this way you will not have any chance of this being challenged because of two questions in one that would eliminate any possibility of that and
you still get uh for the voters to vote upon what they've asked for you know I still think that you know perhaps that was part of their strategy of combining those concepts because if if we did as you say and that's why I'm
saying that this could be challenging we we stand a good chance of losing you just said it's part of their strategy well I guess they wanted to see if more people would vote for one they wouldn't vote for the other and that's how they would get it passed and that's what
makes it two questions into one and illegal according to the law but through the chair but what what are those two what are those two questions that he's talking about one of them I know is the ad the the establishing an advisory board right is that one question that's
one question as opposed to an executive board that would actually have some teeth right and and then what's the second question i believe the the question the the commissioner is referring to is this to prohibit the drawing of city commission districts
with the intent to favor or disfavor a candidate or incumbent so that relates to redistricting and so this redistricting committee that we would create would be charged with not proh with prohibiting the drawing of city
commission districts with the intent to favor or disfavor a candidate or incumbent it also provides for a process for um proposing plans to the city commission i you know I still see it as all part of the same thing i appreciate
the the the vice chairman's concern but this is the question they asked for this is the question we agreed to put on if it's flawed if it's fatal we did our part pursuant to the settlement agreement and the question fails and I'm perfectly fine with the question being
approved or failing but um We're just honoring their obligations last question just to get it on the record i appreciate there was no agreement that we would do this in solely one charter amendment uh instead of two well I would
say that when we approve the settlement they actually have a draft of the question that they want us to put forward so this commission has has basically agreed to to the question that they desire but what I what I said
originally you put the same question but divided into two parts but look I I've made my point we don't need to prolong this anymore mot motion to motion second all in favor
i stated in the record do you want to do you have the answers to his question for R1 larry what's the date uh and when did we as a commission approved these funds before so the the
I'll get Maggie's getting the exact date but the funds for the current year were approved as part of the 2023 budget closeout amendment that we brought in uh November of 20 2023
then why had those funds been given to them if it was approved it was it was transmitted it was that that amount was budgeted in at the end of the the fiscal year 2023
as part of our closeout for release in the fiscal 24th year which is the year we're currently in well yeah 24 25 right okay you you answered that question just give me the date in case you're forgetful uh when
you have that oh and what was the date november 21st 2023 24 excuse me November 21st 2024 20 24 okay so it was not 23 it was 24 it was the close out of the 23 f
uh the 23 fiscal budget okay that that's fine and what is the amount for us to pay up now that we had already was exactly in hand oh 1.5 1.5 exactly 1.5 for this fiscal year
approximately the rest is in the next four fiscal years yes so the number you have in the agreement is that estimate for the next five fiscal years that that's that's fine you've answered all my questions uh so we can move forward if I could just make one last quick
statement uh chairwoman uh I am very this please for this city to have given so many millions of dollars and are still giving more out of what I'm seeing out there uh we've gotten a beautiful asphalt uh
driveway walkway but as far as the gardens that we were going to be having there the foliage what I'm seeing is the cheapest uh foliage trees and those that nobody
wants like crooked palm trees etc that we're getting put out there uh we're not giving to the public uh what I believe was expected uh in particularly for the millions of dollars that we have put out from this city the
beginning part uh in my district uh where it started uh uh off of uh uh a street that's a beautiful area there that was done nicely the minute you start going around that you get behind the roads that you're coming through in
particular the area in US1 uh that that's not up to standard uh of a city like Miami or what it should look like we for this kind of money could put
uh a beautiful sculpture garden all through there uh not to mention the dozens dozens upon dozens of mature beautiful trees that were cut down that gave all the drivers in US1
uh cover from the sun so that's all that I want to say i I'll vote for this uh but I want to make sure that uh somebody here said not that I expect they're going to do a damn thing about it but thank you sir madam Chair Commissioner
Part well I do disagree with that i think the Underline is a great project i cycled through there when I used to be able to cycle pretty frequently um great play areas it's a great concept it's really activated the communities where it goes through so uh I I don't think it
has cheap plants or anything cheap i think they've done a phenomenal job i commend all the volunteers that have been behind this obviously that doesn't show up in a cost number right but if we were to add the cost of all of those hours and all of those people working on this and the way it's activated this
community this is a great investment exactly the kind of investment we should be making as a city okay i have a motion and a second so first um R1 is to be amended pursuant to a substitution memo dated April 3rd 2025 and if I could just have the mover
and second commissioner Partle was the mover commissioner Gabella was the second RE1 all in favor as amended i motion carries unanimously and that leaves RE10
commissioner Partardo yep i'll talk a little bit about how it got here in 2014 the city of Miami Beach did term limit amendment and it passed overwhelmingly 60% plus when I was on the campaign trail and ever since people have come up to me time and time again and said you
know we need newer ideas new ways of thinking it can't just be the same names over and over uh I think 8 years provides a good amount of time for somebody to come in that's directed and get what they need done whether it's a new CRA or you know whatever project
that they have before them and then I think it's time to like make room for someone else if you feel that that someone else you could mentor them to you know rise to that position it's great i'll give you a great example commissioner Gabella and I are new but in being new we've also brought
different ideas different questions different ways of doing things and I think that's what we want to see miami date commission is a good example as well because when they didn't have any requirement on term limits everyone complained it was the same you know but
it's changed there's new faces new ways of doing things and I think to limit it during a lifetime is the best because you're not able to come back decades later or at any time later instead you had your time your eight years as commissioner it also allows eight years
as mayor so you could serve the city of Miami as 16 years and then when you're done with that time period there are many other offices if you care about being an elected official and serving the public that you can move on to but in the meantime the city of Miami benefits from those different ideas and
also has less likelihood of being entrenched in any kind of not because there's any design or malent behind it but just the nature of human of humans right you find people you're interested you all share the same interest you're all kind of you know going in on the same projects it's great to break that
cycle and uh and that's really the intent behind that amendment so I support term limits we have exactly what Miami Dade County has i supported term limits for Miami Dade County because I didn't think it was right to have
commissioners serving 16 years consecutively but I don't support lifetime term limits i do support term limits we have term limits because we can only serve two four-year terms we
can't serve a third term we can't serve four terms i don't think that for example and I've been giving this some thought if Manny Diaz decided to throw his name in the ring to run for mayor I
think many people would be excited about that he served his time he stepped away it's been several years since he's been mayor i don't think that would be a bad thing i think to attach a lifetime term limit is too
extreme and It takes away choice from our constituents because if I've served my eight years and I'm gone for 12 years and I'm retired now and I feel like I want to come back i did a great job for
the city maybe I want to come back it's up to the residents to decide whether they want me back or not but I'm not serving 12 years and we saw that this past election cycle in Miami Date County there was a commissioner that was a
commissioner for 16 plus years she sat out one term decided that she wanted to run again and the community rejected her resoundingly i don't think I don't think that we have
to put that burden of a lifetime term limit now if you said you have to sit out two terms maybe I'll I'll I'll support that but I don't I don't think that it is necessary to have something that says it's a
lifetime term limit i I don't I don't think that's right with all due respect to Manny Diaz I wouldn't be excited personally but that's just me everybody has their you know right but but the constituents would determine that and
well that's what I'm saying but the point I'm trying to make is that would be that would be true if it was a level playing field but the fact is that Manny Diaz has access to capital and money that regular folks or somebody very interested in that position who may be very wellqualified but that's not our
job to determine because he can raise money or not raise money or I'm not saying it is our job i'm saying it is our job to create policy that brings more innovation more breath of air into the system and we have that different I don't think so yes we do we have that because you serve two terms and then you
have to leave and someone else comes in and if they're an awesome commissioner nobody's going to vote them out like what happened commissioner Hardman is sitting here that's exactly what happened he ran she was termed out he ran she decided
that she wanted to come back and the constituents of that district said "No we like the work that he's doing." And again I support term limits i don't want to be here it It would be unfair of me
if we didn't have term limits because the community would vote for me for I believe a third term and maybe a fourth term we don't have that right now but all we're really doing is letting the voters decide i mean you and I may have may see things differently but the
voters should have the ability we're not allowing the voters to decide because right now I believe that this would be prejudiced on personalities and I don't want to make a decision based on what the feeling is
with respect to varying personalities and I believe lifetime is too is is too rigid it's too inflexible if you said maybe you have to sit out
two terms nobody's going to remember you two terms later eight years later that you've been out of office that is a lifetime in politics that's a lifetime but look our commissioner Willie Gourd he was a commissioner he sat out for a while and he decided he wanted to come
back and the community welcomed him they reelected him after a time a a certain amount of time um Mr city Attorney or Mr manager do you remember how long Commissioner Gour was out of office before he ran again
i mean Angel succeeded him so did Angel serve a full eight years i believe Well no he didn't i believe he was reelected but um the other issue with Gourd is he stepped in in vacancies as well and that would have counted as far as like right
and that's another thing wi with you you can't hold against someone that is chosen to fill a seat like um an appointment and that serves as a term that's not fair that's not fair my my
former colleague Commissioner Watson he was appointed to serve a certain time until the election in this legislation that counts as a whole term for him and that's Madam Chair then I'll make a motion to defer the item hold on hold on
okay just you mind if I go first go ahead okay so so I'm I'm I'm seeing I I I was going to vote for you and I'm I still am but seeing the reality of the situation she's not in favor and I don't think uh Commissioner G is going you know he he did attention when he
mentioned Gourd you know but that's about the only attention you caught at me all right so here here's what I was going to suggest maybe uh there's a compromise here with the uh that they have to sit out two terms rather than
one term seeing as we don't have the vote seeing as we don't have the vote for and I'll let commissioner go speak because again let me put on the record I am in favor of term limits i do not think we should sit here 16 20 years i
but that can happen no because even with term limits you can serve eight you can step out and you can come back and serve another eight no because like I said I I don't I I'm saying that right now you
won't have consecutive terms but right now you after your eight terms eight years you're out if you want to make that for two terms that they sit out eight years that is a lifetime in now you just have to sit out four years right now you only sit out four years
but you can come back after 8 years and you know I hear what you're saying you you you have to it doesn't and it doesn't matter because there are candidates who had no money but they knocked on doors they did the work they did the work in the community and they
beat candidates with all of the money so it it's the individual not and again I support term limits i support term limits i do not support lifetime term limits
because I don't think that's fair i I don't think that's fair i don't think that four years and you come back but again that they tried that four year sat out four years tried to come back and the community said no so that sitting out four years maybe
even too long because you've distanced yourself from what you're doing the other person that's in the seat is showing that they're making a difference in the community and the resident said yes I support term limits i just do not
agree with lifetime term limits and I don't agree that you know if you came in for a day and that counts as a whole term as well so maybe we need to take it back to the drawing board but that's how I feel about it happy to defer it i do
want to say that there's a huge power of incumbency and whether you skip four years if you decide to come back at any moment you have that power with you and it is not the same thing as somebody that's just knocking on doors there's no evidence of that right now well the other sure you could look at Miami date county commissioners and how how I'm I'm
giving you this the the very how many of those were over somebody else were elected over them once they were the incumbent it's very few but that's why their term limits miami date county you serve two four-year terms and then you're out and just recently we saw in
the election a commissioner that sat out four years and came back the community did not support that the community can decide who they want their electorate to be their representative to be i may
support sitting out two terms but I I don't support lifetime terms i just don't well we can defer if that's the will of the body madam uh chair vice chair um boy I I I'm sure I am
happy that Commissioner Carter clarified why he put this forward he was campaigning and he saw this in Miami Beach that they had done there before because you know some people were getting the wrong impression not me some
people were getting the wrong impression that you only decided to bring this up when this guy Joe Caro was rumored that he might run for mayor because that would be the wrong impression i don't understand or should I say they didn't
understand why you waited so long when you wanted to bring this up right at the tail end when by putting it on the ballot this November you could not accomplish what you want because it would be totally illegal it would be
challenged before and taken out of the ballot and there's no way I mean think of the logic uh commissioner you're going to have people running for mayor possibly or running for commissioner that right now under the
law and until November says they can run they get elected but then let's say that this somehow gets passes too what judge in America even if you go to San Francisco is going to say that they got
to step down and they can't serve after being elected it's not going to happen it's not going to happen but furthermore clarify this to me because that that's the one area I'm really curious about um you said two terms eight years right that's what you kept
saying well I served two terms as mayor one was for full four years under the present system that we have that it was established because of me bringing it to
a referendum in time uh the other term that I served was then a full term it was for a year and a half under the oil system where the mayor sat as one of five of the commissioners and had a vote
so explain to me how that was going to count in your referendum was does that mean that after 24 years ago that I was mayor I was going to be told that if I wanted to I could not run again for
mayor 24 years ago the last time that I was mayor explain it i I just I'm curious to see uh the logic that you had on this one so go ahead just real brief um I got But I'm asking this part all
right so this is a directive for the ballot language to be drafted it's not determining one thing or the other but it's just a directive to have that ballot language drafted but how and and and it didn't it never came into my idea of Commissioner Coro like the world does
not revolve around that whole you know thing this is a good governance issue that makes total sense it very much follows what Miami Beach did it is a lif that Miami Beach was right well so so far it seems to be working very well it may be but what works for Miami Beach
because Miami Beach passes a lot of things that does not work everywhere else i'm not you know and and you know but North Miami doesn't have it or you know we could we can cherrypick where
municipalities do this and do that and you know they did this one so let's do that one no we Oh they Well it based on what you're saying based on what you're saying hyalia passed pensions should we now go and get pensions hayyia passed
pension without without any opposition should now should Doral has pensions should we revisit pensions uh I would say that we should revisit pension and and even though at the end I was threatened with a recall but I still
maintain that what's going on here and now is not right because you and I and and some of us here are doing the same job or better than our predecessors yet they get a pension and we do not and that's why I was doing it and I and I furthermore I said that if they didn't
get it and we didn't get it that was also fine with me so I I think this has to be re revisited and have the intellectual conversation that you want to attract good people and you want to give them a pension okay so they don't have to do illegal stuff stick to that
up here no but but but that goes to your argument you just said that Miami Beach passed this and this is working for Miami Beach well Halia passed the pension and it's working for them the voters of Miami Beach passed it right the voters and what we're doing here is
giving a directive for the ballot language to give voters an opportunity not us the voters that's it but can I So let me just one quicker i got an idea for you okay doesn't require you go
ahead and let's do the redistricting again okay and then you can put his house out of the area like he put his house in and they took my house out and that's another way of doing it and then you accomplish the same thing you know what I mean that's that's the other that's the way they did it to me you
know what I mean they they took my my house out of the area he put his house in the area and then they thought they were they were going to get rid of me because that's what happened with I mean all we're really doing it but all we're really doing is giving the directive for them to draft it that's it for the city attorney to
draft it man get over get over the redistricting in your house every meeting you come with because that's the truth you get over it cuz you voted for it cuz the same way that you're claiming the same go for it don't go for it don't go wait a minute the same way that you're Wait a minute let me Let me say
it very very natural very natural the same way that you claim that he's out to get you okay that he's out to get you were you and some of your colleagues out to get me because I stood here in January 14th of 2023 and explained to you guys that I was a candidate
officially since way back February and I have been knocking on doors and wait a minute would please allow me mr commissioner Goyo after I explained that to you guys I thought that when you came back in the afternoon you had heard what I had to say i explained to you that in Lawrence Waterway Canal is where you did
the cut off they didn't even bother to to make it look somewhat real they cut it off right then and there there was no basis for it and the only basis for it was because you my predecessor that was here okay knew he had a challenge and knew I had been knocking on doors and didn't want me to participate in that
election and then forced me to move to another uh property that I have that I have to to live 5 months okay away from my wife okay uh not collecting rent and and and that's another issue okay now was that targeted did any of you target
me no I don't I don't think you Let's I'm going to I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that No I know you didn't but but others did but were you targeting me is is what you're saying he's targeting you that this is for you it could be that he's not targeting you it could be good public policy i mean
all this is is asking for ballot language so voters can decide it should be the voters's decision woman let let me put this story every meeting I get this guy crying about the same thing you voted for redistricting i
voted commissioner Reyes when he was here voted none of us none of us were targeting this man now I'm not going to speak for DS celebrity or was it through his mind uh of course you know but how
can you say that the chairwoman myself and commissioner oh me well I was the second vote so who was the third vote well let me just say that came forward to target you Reyes or King something something very interesting something very interesting no no no no no something
very interesting that you should note that you should note when you guys hired the Grandandy up here okay to do that uh that uh redistricting all of a sudden two weeks after you hired him the grandy made you guys give him a waiver meaning
that if the grandy did anything that wasn't correct we could not go after the Grand i would love to deposition the Grandy and see how was it that the Grandandy did a Martian tell the Grandandy to land on my house in Lawrence Waterway Canal but don't you think you that you're a conspiracy
theorist and you're always saying that people are to get you if you were in my shoes you mean to tell me you joke you when I said that they're out to get you nobody believes that one nobody believes that one okay okay let's get Let's go back let's go back to you're saying that
this is merely asking to draft language how do we feel about that cuz again I whatever language I I have an issue with lifetime pensions i think eight years
maybe if but again we have evidence to show that if you sit out for four years that the community may reject you madam chair it's going to take 60 days or so correct how long for it in to draft the
question for it to come back well so the window is um we have 120 days to draft the question but the window we have to be careful of is the the days required prior to the election so we're the target there would be I think July um
first meeting of July and let me ask the city attorney something is it still um part of this legislation is that retroactive thing because there's no way yes so no the vice chair commented on that no I cannot I First of all that's
illegal but city attorney if we send it to be drafted we can make changes when it comes back correct right so when so what we're saying is let's let the process go we'll make the changes that we need to make that we agree or vote on but let's have it go to the voters well you know I I I I take issue with that
because I can't support something that I know I can't support but it may not be in that form that that I know no but he that's what the city attorney just said and you cannot say um let's take Commissioner Gabella for an example that
he's declared that he's going to run he qualified to run and then all of a sudden he's not qualified to run when he wins that's not fair that's not fair if somebody qualifies in September and they've been doing all the work they're
campaigning and then in November this ballot question comes and says you can't have you you can't serve more than two terms therefore and you won you're not you're not in No you can't do that but we're not approving that when it comes back we have to vote on it and we can
make those changes i don't I don't want them to even I'm saying now no because I know and again I've pointed out to you guys although I am not serving in my capacity as an attorney I can be held responsible for
by the Florida Bar for taking action that I know or should have known as a practitioner that it's not right george am I correct defer george is that correct i want you to say that again because every time I bring up something that I know is not right and you guys
and I have said this before you need to put on this legislation when you know it flies in the face of the law that you need to put a note from the city attorney's office that this is not legally sufficient it runs a foul of whatever law whatever statute whatever
ordinance so that we are on notice and the community is on notice it it is not right and I should not have to always be on my guard as an attorney worried about my bar license that's not right and I shouldn't have to do that because nobody
else has to do that but by the way I believe you are right but there's one more thing there's one more thing that I I wanted to to address and and this is that there's been rumors that this was being done coupled with something else and whatever you guys decide and and and I was going to I'm going to vote with
you but I also understand that we don't have the third vote that's the reality of the situation right now we defer to a next meeting or work out but if we defer and we do this in the future okay I am not doing this okay if there is a stipulation somewhere hidden that we're going to there I heard rumors that we're
going to give no one-year terms and because I am not a party to that you know I am not a party to that so I just want to put it out out there because there were rumors this isn't tied to anything i mean this does not happen this is what exactly what it is on the agenda all right
chairwoman Commissioner Partardo did not want to answer my question on after 24 years that I was mayor and I served under two different types of mayoral ships for five and a half years not
eight if he wanted that to be included or not the way it's drafted it certainly is but he wanted to avoid that and I I understand madam Chair I have no idea like I haven't done the calculations i'm not even interested there are of course of course so let's just move of course
but I I do have a another question of interest on the stuff that you brought out you said that part of the problem here too why you wanted this was that everybody up here was 60 years or older well I don't think the terror woman has
reached that uh age yet so I wanted to I don't think I've said that you said that yes yes since we were talking about radio stations you went there in that radio station owned by the nice Venezuelan guy in Venezuela that won't allow anybody to attack majority of the
government listen I think the point I think the point is that we didn't want to hear anything about a radio station but I do Madam Chair the point was that we weren't including younger generations i don't The age doesn't You stated that you stated that clearly and and it's in
tape which I could bring it for you the next meeting so we No please no uh well he says something that he claims he didn't say it however uh if you're so interested in setting one group against the other the older
people against the younger people why did you run against someone that was in her 40s if you really believe that so a lot of what you're saying my dear commissioner it it doesn't make sense
you say one thing and then do another uh this you know why you put it in you've had a campaign non-stop from your pack sending uh stuff in social media
attacking me in all kinds of ways uh you raised some money for that pack it's your guy uh Mr republican while you pound your chest you're a liberal Democrat that's been doing that to me but of course this had nothing to do
with it and this is why uh if you learned about this and you wanted it during your campaign it took you all the way a year and a half later to bring it up to this commission and only when you
were afraid that maybe I might put Shangerla on hold and uh take your champions on and beat them madam Chair well that's that's too I I sign up as mayor majoral because I might
just sign up for that race i'm thinking about it and I'm thinking about it i'm thinking about it you've given me calls to to stop you so I'm thinking about it yeah i I think you should run for mayor madam Chair I encourage you this is not
This entire initiative was about good governance oh sure it was not aimed at Commissioner Coro i think we have made good uh arguments on both sides without involving individual people i have no idea how many times he's run i never knew that he had run that many times i
really I'm not that's not the point of any of this and I just want to make that very clear i'd like to try a couple of times to just call the question to go ahead and defer it we can that'd be great okay motion i I don't know why we're deferring this to when or what i
think either you should withdraw it or we should bring it up to a vote next and be done with it one or the other so motion to defer the next meet to April 24th yes i have a motion in a second to defer this item to April 24th
chairwoman this this is uh extending this charade more and more we should either vote it up or down or you know it should be withdrawn he knows it's illegal there's a motion on the floor made the motion can we vote
there's a motion on the floor to defer this item to April 24th a motion and a second all in favor i I'm going to give it another chance april 24th we have But again you guys know how I feel the meeting's not over
the meeting's not over you know how I feel about the issue okay uh RE14 that was pulled for discussion this would be the last item which one um is authorize the city
attorney to proceed with um legal proceedings against Miami date county yeah uh I pulled it look I don't like the idea of one cent being taken
from the property taxes that the city of Miami takes in because we could certainly uh spent uh every penny that we get or at least give our residents
uh additional tax breaks however I don't like the idea either of getting into a lawsuit right away with a branch of government from the county
what I'd like to suggest is that we have uh a meeting with uh the people from the property tax appraisers
office uh how is it that Washington talks these days uh we put uh you know everything on the table and If at the end uh we cannot show them or
they cannot agree with us with how we interpret the law what we could agree on I think they should show us how the money is going to be spent then I think we have to do uh like Trump said
uh you know with Iran and we have to go to battle but I think we should try to avoid that at at all costs right now uh and I would uh tell them the same thing on their side
madam Madam Chair if I may um commissioner that meeting's already been had um unfortunately well I I know there's a meeting but that doesn't mean that there could be uh an additional one to try to bring sense to the issue well
well there there has been some circumstances that have changed just today between what when this item was put on the agenda and and now that the item's coming up George is going to profer some amended language to it um because I think the tax collector has has sort of um backed away from that a
bit um so um part of the change that um that Georgia is going to profer would enable us to engage in litigation should the need arise um but that there have been multiple conversations with the tax
collector um we're not the only city that's profering this this um this leg legislation and resolution um it's garnering a lot of support with other municipalities partly because the tax collector just didn't want to hear the argument was which are the other cities
that are moving forward with this she's she our our representative what if you can just give a quick Barbie on the other cities that are also in line with this um with this
exact wording on the resolution sorry I'm shorter than the last person that was here barbie I'm sorry too high for you Barbie yes yes sir i'm 5'2 and 5'5 with heels so uh Barbie Hernandez assistant city manager uh the question
was how many cities are involved so the last time I checked um there was about seven cities that had resolutions already for um for the meetings and then there's about 10 other cities that have sent letters to the to the tax collector
what cities just give me a second yeah I just want to mention firstly that um this is just simply authorizing us to take action if necessary um but we just found today the Dariel
Fernandez the tax collector sent a letter saying um essentially that after much consideration I have decided that based upon my office's current budget projections for fiscal year 2526 we will forego assessing municipalities a
commission for tax collector services that's the good part of the letter the troublesome part of the letter is the next sentence which says while I remain confident that the tax collectors have the authority to charge excuse me to charge a commission on all real and tangible personal property taxes and
special assessments collected um so basically he's saying I don't need the money now um I'm not going to go after you um but I reserve the right to go after you we believe it's a pretty simple lawsuit in that um the state
statute section 192.091 provides authorization to put a commission on taxes collected by the county by special taxing districts and by special districts we're a municipal taxing authority which is not one of
those entities it'd be a relatively quick lawsuit i just think that I would still prefer that notwithstanding this letter I think we can bring the troops back to a certain degree but notwithstanding this letter you should still give me the authority just in case
we get a new letter saying I changed my mind again and we're going to you know impose this commission i think you should just enable me um to have the authority to act in the event we need to um and basically like I said it's just a
it's just a legal argument between us he thinks he can collect commissions on us and we say we he can't and I've spoken with um probably 10 or 15 other city attorneys and they they we all see it the same so woman can I answer the city
attorney thank you ma'am mr city attorney uh I I believe you're right in what uh you're telling us however I prefer to wait if they do anything then you come to us and we'll give you that
authority i I don't like to pull the gun in a situation like this you have to keep in mind he just started there trying to do the best that he can but still finding his way and I I I think
nothing is going to uh put us in harm's way if for any reason he goes back in what he put down in his letter and you immediately come to us either at the next meeting or if we have to we call a special meeting and we'll give you the authority
this way we're not in an adversary position with with that office right the only thing I would request um based on that is um um I guess if we deferred it because the issue is the issue is um we're in
the midst of our budget process so um we would have to act quickly so if you want to just defer this to the next meeting um that might be a way to do it but I just want to give the administration the ability to have us at the ready and not
miss a deadline i will make a motion to defer this to the next meeting where the city manager could get back to the tax elector and we could uh better assess uh the letter what he really meant what put
down uh you know where's uh our diplomats when we need them we're losing Kevin Carrera to Panama we lost Marco Ruvio and um thank God we still have the mayor
here still is being considered for Saudi Arabia but anyway I think copish part wants to make madam chair the fiscally conservative thing here to do is to pass this and let them go ahead and uh you know everything's happening in real time
and this is something very important for us to protect and to address so I would not like to see this deferred so mo motion to pass i could call the question wait so there's a motion on the floor we got to address the motion to defer is there no not the deferred I think I
heard part of say he's become a fiscal conservative interesting interesting let us take up the motion to defer i have a motion do I have a second
was well I was the motion was not to defer i mentioned the deferral i don't know if there was No Joe's motion is to defer he may want to defer todd says we have to deal with that one first so there's a motion to defer on the floor do I have a
second motion dies for lack of second and as a legal strategist I believe that the administration should have the tools necessary they don't have to take that tool out of their toolbox but at least
they would have it and we can continue a motion to continue um you can continue to have discussions but I one am not coming back for a special meeting i'm not doing that if I don't have to and I
I I think what you're trying to accomplish will be accomplished even if we pass this because he doesn't have to we we're not going to run to file anything but you just have the authorization and maybe put a pin in a
dollar amount that it would take so I support this do I have a motion motion second second all in favor i and Mr city attorney that's asis and madam chair as is and it motion carried unanimously i
just have to say it the fiscally conservative thing to do is to lower taxes we both voted for that commissioner Coro did not so I think my fiscal conservative Why don't you uh unplug your ears thank you why don't you
unplug your ears it was a 4 vote okay i just thought the other one it was a unanimous vote it was a unanimous vote okay all right thank you everyone for attending the city of Miami commission meeting for April 10th 2025 i'll see
you another time