All right. Special call meeting advisory board. The time is 12:15. Uh meeting the order. >> Yes. Do you happen to have another pen? >> Sorry. You called to order >> till 12:15
[Music] here. here. Miguel Martine is here. M Rubil is out and Rudy is in stuck in downtown.
All right. So, going down the line, any public comments? >> We have Council Member Hersburg online. >> Okay, perfect. Welcome Councilman. >> I think you're muted.
>> Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> There we go. Thank you. Hey. Uh, yeah. I mean, I was told about the meeting, so here to answer any questions or discuss anything. Uh, I I don't know. I saw your agenda, but uh just here to help. But if you have any questions on any updates
for me, just let me know. Perfect. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Um Ed, you updated some of the files. >> Yeah. >> So, I guess probably just to get back into get into it immediately, uh we want to post them. Okay.
>> So, we can discuss them. So from this slide, this is the first slide. This is the only slide that I was able to um >> I'm gonna share. >> I would it be um possible to prove that or it's basically the same as the previous
copy. >> Um the >> are they? >> Yeah. Okay. Those I did email to. >> Yeah, it's basically the same as the previous copy. The only edit that I did was since we did mention in the past that we had it labeled as um
complaints to the state, I just put it I just wrote state instead of putting complaints or blast to the state. I just wrote state >> on on the um >> on the gr uh and then the pilot I just left as pilot. It's going to be a little
cleaner. Um that's basically the edit that I did. Uh the the other change that I made was just an update to the Broward. I remember how you before you had said that there was some unknown blast that I had. This one had it. So I removed it and make sure that that was
updated for Broward just because in Broward technically there's no blast labeled as Broward blast. Um but yeah, but besides that everything is good. the the state's website or the mandate um pilot program is only updated to
midseptember September 10th. So like I really didn't pull the September data. So this is still the same as before. It's >> fine. >> Um so our numbers are the same. Our pilot program is still showing higher values than our state we're showing casing. I think that what's beyond
significant is the 22,700 complaints. Um I think it's fantastic. Yeah, it's 23 thou 22,000 are um all the complaints found, >> right? >> Um and that's not all the claims that
people really wanted to complain about cuz even me that I feel the blast like I don't get to complain with all of them. Um some of them I just don't don't have time or I'm working or I'm doing something else. No, it's not. >> It's not it's not blast felt. It's
actual filed complaints. >> Um I think it's critical um just for for all of us um speak our thoughts so that we're all on the same page. U because moving forward as we present this, we're
going to be brought uh questions and whatnot so that we're all clear what we're looking at, what we're presenting. I mean, obviously you you you know everything on there, but for all of us, >> um, >> we all need to familiarize ourselves with it to be able to speak on it just
as confidently as I do, you know. >> Okay. So, the the the combination or combining the green and the gray are the total complaints and the green is just through the pilot program. >> Yes. >> I think the green and the gray are the
um by PPD. No. >> Yeah. the state versus the the the pilot based on the PP based on the PPP level of that particular day
>> blast >> right >> blast right blast. So basically on the top it says total blast says 3100 blast 3,128 that's basically if you add up all those numbers is that graph there 3,128
class and we divide those 3,128 divided we separated them by state according to the state and according to the pilot program and then we group those by um PPV um I didn't go ahead and separate the two like what are the PPVs these groups
for the state and one of the people right now together. >> I think that's fine. >> You can see like the the the lines like the percentages. I guess like the green is a lot bigger. >> Yeah, it's a lot bigger than than what the gray is, which I think that's fine.
>> I think the question is on that though, um if we're showing PPV values, they have seven and seven 7.9. If there's only two complaints, that doesn't um that doesn't jive. Uh no that those are not complaints. Um these are blasts. So
these are two blasts that happened at u between seven to 7.9. >> All right. But the PP that's the PPV. >> That's the PPV. Two blasts. Not nothing complained. You scroll down here. This one shows what you're talking about. Complaints. Okay. >> This is the same the same table.
>> I just pivoted on the table >> and I added >> and I added the complaints on the top. >> Got you. So that and this is what I'm getting at that first chart then is just the amount of blasts that have occurred. >> Yep. >> And I think that that's why I wanted I to print it because he can't show all
the pages on the screen at the same time, right? But we can we can refer on the pages back and forth because I think it's important to decide today which graphs we're going to um >> what graphs we're going to reduce the report by. So that way it's only
information that a recipient can find valuable, right? Because the number of blasts, the the line chart in the top versus that one in the bottom, we need to decide today like which one is more valuable to the consumer because we can't present them with this many
options. They're just too much information. Maybe if it's like depending on the audience, >> I think it's good to keep the information just in case. What is the goal? >> I'm not saying throw it away. What I'm saying is M >> in our goal to put this on the resource
page, we need to simplify it and make it so that when someone reads it, they fully fully understand our intent without us having to explain it. Because in a presentation, scroll up.
That chart takes explaining. You have to explain that the total number of blasts were 3,000 whatever that it's cut off right now, but 3,000 whatever. And that right there in that graph, you're illustrating what was reported by the pilot program versus the state based on
PPV levels, right? A normal person off the street is not going to understand that without explanation. So when you put something online without context, it's very dangerous because it could be interpreted as misinformation. So whatever we put online has to be
super super easy peasy cut and dry that you don't need a paragraph explanation for. But when you use it for a presentation let's say you're going to Homestead or you're going to Myiramar whatever you can include something like that because you can provide context to
what you're going over. So there should be like different versions of the report. the report that we look at versus the report that we put on the resource page >> versus the graphs utilized on the presentation site. Um, that's just my
two cents because anyone reading that can misinterpret that to however they want. Um, thank you. And and you don't want somebody to accuse you of putting out bad data or us, not even you. I think the biggest play here
is when we want to compare. >> No, he just doesn't send this to me. >> Oh, okay. If you don't mind because if not then he's not going to go. >> Yeah. >> Well, it is just so you guys know, I do have it um showing for anybody who's online. >> It cuts off a little bit sometimes and
we've been referencing different pages at once. So, just so he could have his own. >> So, what what what are we looking at? This of the same information here. >> Yeah, it's the same information. is is the same uh it's the same data at least here what we have and the graphs are basically the same in every page um I
think it's mostly we want to showcase it by city or we want to showcase it by um I think >> program >> the city uh graph should be its own page uh and not not not be included on the
general information that's that's something that's perfect like when we went to see vice mayor of cityar >> look at what people are doing. That's all she cared about, you know, at that point. Um that the route wouldn't care what May Martin is is feeling.
>> Okay. >> Um so not not part of what Franchesca's refer I wish we should refer um make note of something that the like a I don't I don't know what to call it a front page for the public and then
background data like what we're talking about. >> Okay. So you want to call so one could be like republic and one could be internal. Right. >> Right. That's what I meant by different versions of it. The cover of it should be the same as let's say the
the one for public. >> I think the book the the public should only be one page. I don't see >> I don't see anything more than one page. uh but as far as it providing to the public cuz then you're asking them to like what you're doing right now clip
and determine when it's not going to happen. >> It's not >> forget about it not happening even when it does they won't understand. >> Yeah. >> So we could agree then the the total stats >> that'll be included on on the cover page. >> Okay.
>> Why don't we go just to be more efficient uh what what to include on that cover page. Which graphs of all of these to include? Okay, I like that. >> So this part is on the cover page, right? This is the total of all the totals,
>> right? Okay, this goes on cover. >> Then I got to look for it. I have a complaint for 2026. >> That's what they have in the system. That that's why I left it there because whoever wants to look at that data is
going to see that 2026 and be like, "Oh, does anyone have this report?" I can omit it. >> If you want me to omit it, I'll admit Let's limit it for now because that that it it's showing something that that's erroneous and >> yeah on the on the following pages where I do have the groups is not there is
only on the cover page on that one so that you can see that it does exist but nowhere else does it say 2026. >> Um since Stephen is on the line I think it would be important to let him chime in on what he thinks should be on the cover. um especially since the cover is going
to be used for all levels of communication, right? Whether it be lobbying efforts, meetings with municipalities or with the general public. >> Okay. >> I wonder why Aventur and Florida City. Florida City, yes, but Aventura and
Pompo Beach. >> Remember that it's also based on the address you plug in, right? So >> they live there and and they're moved or something. >> It could just be like a data entry issue.
>> Yeah. Usually those blocks are the older version, the ones from the state, their data was a little more like rigidity. >> Mhm. Like the Miami Gardens one, I'm positive it's a house in like Country Club right? >> Or in uh like the Moors, you know? Um
cuz sometimes those addresses pop up as Miami Gardens. >> Well, we live in Ha, >> right? >> Yeah. >> But there's also a section for Palm Springs North, >> which is tricky to me because no one's
address Palm Springs North is Palm Springs, North Florida. So, like, how did it >> how did it deduce that this house is in PSA? Most of our data on PSN >> the zip code is our >> going to be but there is no zip code
allocated to PSN >> 33015 >> is HIA >> no it's run by the post office that has the HIA marked on it which they >> complete the form online and you plug in your address >> would if I were to do a complaint I'd
plug in my address HIA Florida because my address is Florida these houses that come under PSN. What made them what made the system determine that it was a PSN house? Did
the user plug in Palm Springs North? Nobody does that. That's not a natural thing. If you don't live in PSN, you're not going to say >> my city is Palm Springs North because that's not true. >> Your city's >> it's it's not even that. >> It's not even that. But I'm saying your
address when you need to receive correspondence is Halia. >> Do you want somebody to find your house? You're going to say Hiyah. >> They uh I don't know if you're aware, but the reason is is the post office that covers us is a Miami and they that was it was to be Halia and it wasn't.
>> Right. >> Recently they changed it. Now it says Miami Gardens. >> Right. >> Makes even worse. >> And sometimes UPS autocorrects my address to Miami Gardens. >> Oh, really? I haven't had that. So if
when people see things like this, okay, they're going to question it. Um, we just have to have a response to that >> and it could be a simple data entry thing and you know it is grayed out so
it's information that came from the state, not the Miami date um, pilot program. So maybe those 147 complaints are super super old, >> you know, from before they optimized the
system. Could you see from where it came from? >> Yeah, they're from January, February, and March of 2023. >> Super weird. So, wasn't you at the beginning or at the end? Somewhere. >> Um, you want to let Hersburg chime in?
>> She can give a >> I mean, I'm here, guys. Um I so I I mean I like um I like the data. One question I have is why are we what's the importance of separating the amount of complaints from complaints to state and
Miami date pilot program? Aren't they all going to CFL regardless? >> It's the source of the complaint is where where that's coming. the the breakdown is >> I guess my I mean my only question is why I don't know why that are the
are are are complaints coming still coming directly to the CFO's office or is everything through the pilot program now like were those the complaints earlier on I I just don't know what why why it needs to I why there needs to be a breakdown you
know what I mean >> um if anybody were to go to the state and request their data by default Those two data sets are separate. >> So, I get I see I see the summary now. So, it before the start of 2023, everything was through the state and now
everything's through the pilot program. So, I I I I just don't see the need to break it up. I think it's just a little confusing. Uh I just would like to say, wow, look, there's 10,000 complaints in 2023. Now, it's not great that the
complaints went down, right? Why in 2023 is it 10,000? Now it's at 4600. Now 3700 it can go maybe up back to the 2024 level. I guess the question is what happened in 2023 other than that was the
new pilot program. I guess it shows that um when it first came out it was heavily used and worked and people were aware of it and then you know people nothing changed so people stopped doing it as much right. um >> in addition to people working from home
much more back then than they did now. >> That's true. That's >> Yeah, but in 20 but really the 2022 is when you know 2021 2022 even more people working from home. Uh I would attribute it to >> but see Miami date county recently made the change to bring everybody back to
the office. So yeah, >> even administrative county employees were still working from home. >> But that that that quantifies the the amount of complaints. But the question here is what we're gonna >> project coordination, >> right? I mean, I just don't necessarily see the need, but it's not that's not a
big deal. Um, it just makes it a little >> point though. It makes it >> like what's the difference, right? >> And then it says complaints to the state. So then what the other complaints, they're all going to the state. They all go to the CFO's office, right? >> End of the day, it's just a different way to make the complaint. I think it's
a valid point if we're trying to defend the pilot program and it shows that it's being effective and it's being used, but that's not our intent. Our intent is to show how many complaints that were that are >> and and also the numbers will be obvious anyway because anyone that looks at the numbers say, "Well, h what happened in
2023 that the complaints went up so much and you say that's when the Miami date pilot program started, right?" So, I don't I don't even think you need that. So, it's just confusing. Less is more. Um, and of course the the second biggest thing I see is like we discussed with
the vice mayor Myimar ironic Miami date pilot program but myar Broward County has the most complaints and while we're taking the lead here is second right now but I guess my question on the Halia part is that would likely
include PSN right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So it's not necessarily hy aliyah it's just unincorporated dade zip codes. It when you're looking at the data were you able to get rid of the
the Miami lakes addresses that may be tied into you know hyalia zip codes. How how do we know or we just did it by city by by the city that showed off. >> This breakdowns by city. >> Okay. So some of the ideas still might
>> it does have zip codes living um in the same table. It's just a different column. So I can group it by zip code too. >> No, zip code won't work because uh we have that problem, right? We have three zip codes in Miami Lakes. So uh no all I'm saying is there's there's a re very
real potential that hyalia one a lot of those hyos probably PSN and northwest date not necessarily uninccorporated northwest date not necessarily the city halyia and two some of those halyas are also very pro very likely Miami Lakes
because just that the default sometimes on the zip code says halyia even if you're Miami Lakes. Um, so I would love to it would I don't know how it would probably be very difficult, but to just
say hi Alia is probably um not that accurate because I'm >> and effective too. >> Well, I mean from my standpoint, you know, I for example, I I was just texting the the newly mayor elect of
Halia. From my standpoint, if it says Halia, then that's great because then I want to go to the Halia mayor, Halia Council, say, "Look, you guys have a problem here. This affects you guys even, you know, almost as much or if not more than us. So, let's go. Let's get give us some support." The same argument
we're making uh to Myar. Um, which this makes it much more clear in the Myar side. I really hope we do get their support even though we haven't heard back from them yet. Have you heard anything from them, Miguel? >> I haven't. >> Okay. I haven't either. I'll follow back up. It was another request. Uh so I
don't mind the Halia number. I just know that that number is a mix of Helia uh and unincorporated Dade. And then when we receive Miami, I know for a fact that that's most likely uninorporated Dade, not actually the city of Miami.
Right. Right. >> And then we have other I don't I don't know what others can be. Again, this would take a lot of digging. At the end of the day, the biggest thing is the amount of complaints. Uh so when you have 22,000 complaints of something over a span of uh four years,
five years, that should mean something. Uh the other thing I would like to see though is if possible and I I don't know who how you're compiling the data or but it would be nice to see how many individual people have complained
addresses right because we do know that they will say well there might be someone making a complaint every day right that's 365 complaints a year um that would be interesting to see not not necessarily we would want to put it out
there to date, but the way to see it would would be >> for us to look at >> for us to look into it and see if it helps our case, right? We want to bring out the facts that help us. We want to be transparent. It's all transparent because everything's out there. Anybody can compile the data, but we want to compile data that makes our argument
strong. Right. Right. >> So, um, but the data says a lot. I definitely like the obviously total complaints and that's the thing I'm confused about complaints to state, complaints and pilot. What's the difference? They're all complaints. Right. I just want to say look I have I
have this amount of complaints. The only thing that I I can understand why it makes sense to differentiate between the state and pilot is to show the pilot program working. But that's in the numbers itself when you have a chart. someone, anyone who's interested at at
all would say, "What happened in 2023?" And you say, "Well, that's when the pilot program was first implemented, first marketed, and that's why you see the uptick of of complaints, right?" And then they'll say, "Well, I guess everything got better then after that,
which is not the case." Um, but that's, you know, that that's what it looks like to me. But this is the type of data you want to bring up to the other cities and obviously to Tallahassee. >> All right. So the the
um we need to decide what to put on the cover sheet that basically the single page flyer that everybody will get uh specific data like what municipality the complaints are from. That'll be second uh in priority available but not
necessarily needed to give to the to to everybody. Um, you know, that's a specific audience. So, what what do you what's your opinion on what to include on on the general forum >> so everybody could see it? >> Amounts of complaints.
Um, the PPV issue. Do we can you go down a little bit? Is that the chart that shows like PPV to complaint? >> This one? >> Yeah, >> this one shows the breakdown of PPVs. Um and in this case that's state and um pilot and how many photo complaints were
reported on that ppb range. So in this case for example as the ppb increases uh you do see it peak here >> right >> three and then start lowering. >> Yeah but what what are these I'm confused ppvs in the threes and fours.
>> Yeah so this is zero to.9 one to 0.9. Yeah, but where are we getting I never Where are we getting those PPVs, Miguel? Is that >> the PPV is from the blast? >> At the at the site. >> Yeah, the pilot program data is from the
site. The official complaints, the official um readings. So, this would be like one bar basically instead of two bars just divi dividing into two. >> Right. I would just make it one bar. But my my question is like a PPV of 30 to
39. That is a reading of at on the the seismograph on the on the site. >> Correct. >> That because we're not getting those we're not getting three O's in on any of the seismographs offsite. >> Okay. Further away.
>> Well, that that would be unofficial readings. Offsite would be unofficial. I think I have a question from what you're saying because we have max PPV 0.76 but then we have a charge saying
PPVs over one. So which one is it? >> The the the it doesn't make sense to me. >> Which part? Say it again. >> Okay. So I I'm the bottom of the bottom of the chart showing the graph of of the complaints. The zero to 0.9 the 1.1 to
1.9. What is that? What is that? >> This is the PPV for blast. >> Okay. But then, so the confusing part for me is at the top right there, it says max PPV 0.76. So how we have a chart that says we're getting complaints
at 1.0, 2.0, 3.0. >> Oh, because that's 076 is right here. >> I think this whole chart is is >> Oh. Oh, like the decimal. Oh, >> I'm seeing Okay, we're at the big difference, right? So I'm confused about the decimal point then.
>> I think it's misleading because if we have a high blast then >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. I don't like honestly I just don't like the chart period. >> Yeah. >> The data doesn't help. The data doesn't help. The data doesn't help. And it's a little confusing. >> Um I think the main thing we need to
show is >> the PPVS, the total blast, how many complaints. And I do like a regional chart. I like the regional chart because it shows to other I don't I mean you know honestly you got to make it for
your audience. Um the regional chart is something you want to show to other cities. Is the regional chart something you necessarily need to show to other people in the state house or senate? Not necessarily. because the people that
represent these areas for the most part are on our side on this for I believe anyone in those areas. So I don't necessarily believe we need to show prove to them that their community is being harmed. But when we go to Myiramar, when we go to Hyia, you do.
But now at the same time, we go to the rally saying, "Ah, not that big of a problem here, obviously, right?" So you got to do it for your audience. But for a mass one that says, "This is what I want. I I just want to focus on total
complaints, not necessarily breaking down how the complaints were filed, total blast and and the PPV data. Um, that that's really that those are the three things I would focus on. I I like the charts for the total complaints. It
shows that the the program works and when people are aware of it, it's new. Then people did make complaints and it still shows even two years later, the complaints are still higher than they were back in 22 and 21 when there was
no, you know, no no pilot program. Um, it's just obviously there was a uptick because it was something new, something different, something that we uh, the board went out and and made sure everyone knew about it. Um, all that always fizzles out, right? And there's
nothing you can do about that. >> Um, so to Stephen's point, Edwin, I have a question for you. My favorite chart has always been the one that compares the cities >> just because it's so obvious that Mariramar is so heavily impacted and Hia
and Makes right but because Halia is getting um fed the PSN information because our addresses fall in um in HIA like that's how our address pops up. Is there a way
for you to do it by zip codes first and then you label it the city >> group >> separately? Right? Because like 33015 is Pyia but it's not city of Pyia. It needs to be categorized as
unincorporated day county PSN in parenthesis. Right? Because if this number if a large amount of PSN complaints are being categorized in Helia other Miami >> or Palm Springs North, you can
consolidate it all to one line item that illustrates PSN and it can be used to talk to the mayor's office, right? Because that falls under the mayor's office day county. Now, city of Hyalia,
we will hurt our city of Halia number because that's going to go down because it's going to go into our unincorporated date county bucket, but it'll only help us in unincorporated D County. You get what I'm saying? like we have to put um
we have to hyperfocus on putting these address categorized exactly where they belong because if they're miscatategorized then we're telling city of Halia hey listen you have 5,218 complaints but maybe they only have 3,000 because 2,000
of those are PSN people right and there is no way for the system to diagnose PSN as a group of people unless it's manually done through zip codes. Same with Miami Lakes because Miami Lakes comprises of how three or four zip
codes. >> Uh I'm pretty I always get confused, but pretty sure we have three. There's there's a there's a third. That's a very small chunk, but it's in there. It's a mess. >> But let's let's call it three zip codes, right? What if one of those zip codes are falling against other? because when
the address gets popped into um the Google verification of the addresses, it could be populating it in Hyena or Miami or other, right? So, in order to really bucket them by city, they have to be um
scrubbed by zip code, you need to tell the zip codes. If you are 33015, you fall under unincorporated day county PSN. If you are 33018, you fall under Miami late. If you are 0
>> whatever the one where Hia Gardens is, right? Then you are highly a gardens. If you don't create that extra step to re-engineer like verifying if it's this then it's that then this will never be accurate. Not because of you. I'm saying
because of the way the addresses are confusing. >> That's not useful. >> Common. It's it's at 330181. It's just the west side of a of uh 87th. It's a small chunk, but also probably a chunk that I wouldn't be surprised if
even some of those Hyas are Miami Lakes. >> Yeah. >> Um I wouldn't be surprised at all because there it's just that west side between 170th and um and uh 75 west of
87th. All that is 330 uh 3 018 and but at the same time that's also a little bit of PSN and then a lot of industrial and then uh that's also HIA and high.
>> So um yeah that's an interesting makeup that one. Yeah, like there's always going to be a little something off because 33018 is going to have a teeny bit of Helia Gardens, but it's also going to have Miami Dates, right? >> So, it's only looking at specific city,
specific zip codes, and just allocating those to the right >> city, >> right? And I think you should do it like backwards, >> starting from the zip code. >> Like I start with 33015 and I make sure that all of 33015 is being applied to the unincorporated day county bucket.
Then I go to a 331 uh 018, which is the one we're just talking about, and I'd scrub through that and I'd make sure it's filing towards Maggie Lakes. And then I'd go to 33016 and I'd make sure that that one is going to the right bucket. I specifically do
that in the zip codes that are our zip codes, right? Like prioritizing Miami, >> but not Miami, not the city of Miami, just like the Monia Nar. Well, I mean, honestly, I would I the way I would do it is agreed. You have to make sure that I believe a lot of these Halia zip codes
and the Miami zip codes are either unincorporated or or within Hyia or Miami Lakes. But the way I would do it is obviously you want Myar, you want Hleia, you want Miami Lakes, you want unincorporated Dade, and then I would just do other for everyone else because
everyone else, you know, is others, a lot of those others are probably going to be Miami Dade County. Um I I because you have homestead here. I I don't I don't know what this M the Miami will be unincorporated date for sure. The others I don't know what could be others other
than people missing >> um other is like uh there's other cities in the state um that are labeled there. Um so that's why I just put those others. They're not within Miami date or Broward. >> I I mean I guess they're probably on the West Coast. I would like to see those others then. >> Um I would like to know that not
necessarily h we have to have that on there. I would like to know where those others are just to have an understanding of who else we should be talking to >> because um I assume it's it's thing it's it's people in Lee County and and Kolier
County that have lines over there. >> I don't I'm not aware of any other blasting that affects any other people other than Dade and and Lee County. >> Let's say it is Lee County, right? You could also have a section that's other
Miami date county and then you can have another section that states other Lee County right? >> So we know that that component of other belongs to the west coast but this component of other is within Miami date county. You see the Hollywood line that
you have with 99 complaints that Hollywood I assure you belongs to Marramar because once you cross a certain street in Myiramar it becomes Hollywood >> just how PSN is Halia right there's a certain part of Myramar that the city in
the address is Hollywood so we would eliminate one additional line item that's representing something unnecessary to go and add to the murmurs Mar's number. I assure you that those um the Fort Lauderdale
and the >> Yeah. >> What's the other one? >> Did I just Hollywood Hollywood Hollywood goes to Miramar for sure. >> The Fort Lauderdale might actually belong in between Myar and Peenrook Pines. >> Yeah, >> because there's a lot of addresses at
Towngate that are Fort Lauderdale, but it's actually in Peenrook Pines. Then uh Pmpo Beach that might just be an outlier and that can go into the other category of Broward County because there's two complaints at least.
>> Yeah. And then Aventura, I would look into that one. Uh, and the Miami Gardens one can also fall into that unincorporated area like I I was saying to my go that it's probably like an address in Aspen or
um Country Club of Miami, the one that's on 57th Avenue, but on this side it's not Miami Gardens yet. It's not, you know, >> okay, >> it's like that awkward like in between. It's not one thing and it's not the other. That might be that. So we group
we condense the list but also expand it in ways that are more like beneficial to illustrate the information correctly because Miami Lakes looks like it has a very small number of campaigns. But if 2,000 of those high alo ones belong in Miami Lakes then now we're talking about
Miami Lakes has 4,300. You know what I mean? like >> and skew our numbers up, bro. >> Like in reality, the real number is this is just what they're talking. >> It's not that they're telling us, it's that our addresses are very confusing in
this area and my address is showing up right now, but I don't live in city of Hya. >> I wish I had like a engine where I can just put the addresses and it just tell me like, okay, it actually belongs to >> it would be cool. Yeah, but no, you have to do that. >> Yeah. You almost have to do like a like
a pivot table giving your formulas like if it's 33015 then put it in unincorporated date county. If it's 3308 put in my links like that and then it'll generate you a proper list. That's why if I was doing this report I would work
it backwards >> to the point that I would start with the tiny ones like Miami Gardens one. I I'd start there and then Florida City I I'd eliminate those cuz that Florida City is probably Homestead. It's not Florida City. And then once you eliminate the
itty bitty ones, then I go to the big one like Halia. And then from Halia, I rip them apart and I make Halia go into Miami. Halia go into an incorporated like that. >> I think there's not a there's only um
2,00 or 2500 addresses. Um, so I mean that could fit somewhere in the table um where we can just like approve it, manage it and be like, "Okay, yeah, these addresses were already vetted and we already said that is this zip code or is this city?" >> Uhhuh. >> Because like I said, there's only 2,000
3,000 like addresses. >> Um, and some most of them are going to be correct or a lot of them are going to be correct. >> There's only the ones that were saying to change it >> like 3302, right? 33012 will genuinely fall into Halia and that will be in the Halia
bucket because that is city of Haley. >> So you can have like if they're saying that is Halia and it's also that zip code then it is that zip code >> but if they're saying that is this city actually the zip code then it's actually this >> right? You have to you have to teach the
>> um how is each diagram that you have here is this like its own thing or is it pulling live from the data? >> I I don't have a live connection. I download it and then I refresh. >> So you but you're just dropping it in on on a sheet.
>> Uh I saved the file from the state into a folder and then that folder is already connected to PowerBI and I just hit refresh. >> Okay. But but but the the actual uh image of the graph that you did is this is its own image that you just drop it into a piece of paper or or
>> No, he feeds it. The data set gets re-uploaded and that data set reissues these graphs based on the parameters that he issues. >> But for this specific graph, the ask that we're asking to properly categorize the he manually do every time he
refreshes. >> Yeah. I'll do I do I do a key and then from that key I say and on that refresh how many addresses did not meet that key and that day I say hey there's 90 addresses that don't meet the key and I just mentioned that >> right no I understand that that that's
that's your background data to you to generate this but what I'm talking about is the actual image that we're seeing is this something that you just copy paste you took a screenshot of that and put it onto Word >> oh no no it's all embedded I I can't manipulate it >> you're you're getting this directly from as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just a it's just a screenshot. >> Um >> it's a screenshot of PowerBI and PowerBI is the analytic tool that's used to uh grab information and then produce these graphs and the graphs are produced based on the parameters that he says for the
data. >> Right now there's like no there's no there's no filters, there's nothing manipulated or no groups or anything. What we're asking him to do for this specific chart, he would be manipulating the data >> because the data is identifying 33015 as
HIA as other as whatever and we needed to properly illustrate where that city or address belongs. >> Another thing you can do is to make your job more efficient, right? I think this graph right here
is going to require a lot of manual key adjustments, right? Right? Because when you create the key and you tell it these are the addresses, categorize them into cities based on zip codes, you're going to have a chunk that doesn't u meet your your rule, right?
>> And let's say that chunk at the beginning because it's 22,700 complaints. Let's say originally it's 3,000 line items, right? >> It's going to take you time to go through those 3,000 line items and recategorize them. >> Until then, I just put it to wherever they said that it was. like until I
don't look for it until I until I don't like assign it, it'll just stick with highly if it was highly >> right. Right. But what I'm saying is prior to you scrubbing through that to generate the new updated list, >> it should be like u November 5th from
from the inception to November 5th. These are the metrics and this graph I wouldn't update every month when you update all the other stuff because it's not done automatically through PowerBI. What I would do is that would be one isolated graph that you update once a
quarter. >> Okay? because this requires a lot of like vetting and a lot of uh >> I want to say manipulation but a lot of reorganization that's very time consuming and um I think it would be a
big ass to do it monthly because then every single month you'd have to go through that. Um >> yeah, they're very delayed in their publishing anyways. Um, so I get once a quarter. >> We can update this force year.
>> I think there's a lot of data already that that is impactful. Um, my my point on what I was asking or what I was getting at is graphically um, how do we how do we present this? And and if I mean you give me your
input. What what I'm seeing is four items on on this cover sheet. uh claims you have across the top the PPP PP PPV data itself um which you have a
chart which shows the the at the the problem is on on that chart when you exceed uh 0.5 you're in illegal illegal limit. So if they have a recording of that and done nothing about it or did they do something about it, that needs
to be addressed. Um, so I think that's significant to have have that. It also shows the amount of blasts of energy being produced per uh segment of of of PPV. Then I I'd like to see the blast per
year to show the impactfulness of what we're experiencing. And then lastly, the complaints by municipality. I think it's significant enough to show. >> You lost me though. I was trying to draw it out as you were saying. >> Four items. >> Okay. >> Total complaint. Total complaint.
>> Right. That's the top band. >> Uhhuh. >> PPV that data data. >> But what about the PPV data? >> Just show what what what he's showing here that that there is there is blast because people have to fix the >> But which graph?
the graph that you were saying um uh to update with PPVS where it says zero with zero 0.9. >> You're talking about this one. >> Yeah, >> you'd want to see this on the cover. >> I want to see four it I'm thinking I'd like to see four items on the cover and that that be one of them. >> That' be one of them. Okay. I I want to
understand what your four items are. So this would be one. So total complaints >> total complaints the total blast >> total blast the the PPP PPV data which is that one blast by year the total blast >> where's that one complaints by year
blast by year >> no blast by year >> and the complaints by municipality >> and the complaints by municipality which is this one >> the this right and that's it >> okay and um Stephen You had said that in
the cover you'd want to see the PPP >> the PPV comparison which is the safe one that Miguel was referring to the one with the 0.9. Can you can you show it on here so I'm sorry? >> Yeah. >> That one that's the one you'd like to see on the cover right?
>> Um >> you have to update it >> with the proper updates. >> Um yeah maybe I the only I I guess it would be a lot clearer. Maybe we can revise the ranges a little bit because I like I mean I like that how it goes up but then why does it go down, right? So
it's a little weird that there's these complaints as at a certain level the complaints go up, right? Which is great. That's what you want to see. But it's just a little odd that >> Right. But I don't want to see complaints per PPV. I want to see just PPV.
>> Oh, right. Well, that isn't that that one. The the >> Yeah. Then you don't want to see this. >> You want to see this one, >> right? Okay. >> Total blast by PPD. >> Okay. Yeah, that one I like. As long as
we fix the the decimal points. >> Yeah, that doesn't look >> and and get rid of the >> double double color. >> Total blast. Yeah, correct. I like that one. I like >> found. I don't know what not found
means. I would just get rid of that. It's the the plaza that didn't have a PV. That's they didn't assign it. It was blank. >> Okay. I mean, I don't know. >> No, we go in there. There's the ones that say they're just blind, >> right? Well, it could be not triggered.
>> It can't be. They can't have >> Yeah, >> it could be not triggered. Could it not go? >> They didn't record it. They didn't they uh they they obviously recorded a blast, but they didn't record the the the level >> or or maybe it's just not updated yet. Maybe it's reset and they just haven't
put it in there. Okay. I can I can put some more. >> I would I would look at it, but again, would it can't that be the not triggered ones where the side the the machine was not triggered? We get that sometimes, especially down south. >> No, that would be the zero the first the first bar
>> zero. Okay. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if that would go into there. But okay, >> I I get it. Um, >> instead of not found, can we put not reported or >> not categorized? >> Well, not categorized means it didn't
have a category. I would rather illustrate like no data was given >> like no reported data or something like that. So that way it still counts against them. But >> Right.
>> Okay. Um, I'll look at those not found by itself and I can provide an update on the next meeting to see like what's actually in there. >> Okay. Okay. >> And it may be that like you're saying it's it's the information that they're working on that they haven't haven't categorized it yet into
>> Right. And if it is then obviously then they'll cate >> it'll zero out when if if he updates it. >> Um, >> okay. So I I just want to organize everyone's priority vote and then we can create the coverage based on that. So it
got me goes. Um Stephen agrees with this graph, right? He wants the summary of regions which is the same one that you had chosen the number of complaints total which we already had on here and the total blast. Stephen, is there any other graph on here that you would say is like
>> let me let me I I emailed it to me. Hold on. Let me just pull up my >> We'll give you some time to look on it. >> Perfect. So, what I'm doing, Edwin, is like I'm going to tell you exactly what this new cover is going to look like. And then
every page after that then will continue >> because every next page after that should be identical based on the same. So like myar and this is the summary of Marar's information. This is the summary in
okay. So we're we're reducing how much comparison data you generate. Um so I guess while he looks at it, not me looks at it the and and what I was alluding to
before. Um is there any way to ex to extract this so that Francesca can put it on her letter head that she has graphically? Um can can that be uh Yeah, >> I can grab it as a as a JPEG picture. >> That's it. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, yeah, I was just going through all the pages. The most important thing is um for me is total glass, total complaints, the regional makeup, but we need to make that regional chart much tighter, a lot
less regions, >> right? We can put you know myar Hia Miami Lakes unincorporated Dade and then I would just put if if it exists Southwest Florida right and then everything else would just be other in
my opinion I think >> because then you're really looking at smaller numbers but for Palm Palm Springs North should go to an incorporated date right Miami just says Miami that's likely >> that's likely on a date most of those a
lot of those are probably on incorporated date. Hopefully hopefully there's a good chunk from the annex, don't get me wrong. Hopefully it's a good chunk from Halia, but there's not that that many residents um the residents have recently moved in, right? Uh in the last five years or so.
Um but that's the most important thing to me and and I like showing max PPV. Uh and yeah, it's just got to be a one pager, right? A one-page data sheet on on the complaints. But that's why I want to make sure we show how many blast, how
many complaints, who's ma who's making the complaints, where they're coming from, and and what are what's the PPV. I like this PPV blast by year showing um a little confused on minimum PPV. I'm a
little confused on what that chart shows. If there's a way to show the blast in in in a chart, that's fine. or just put it as the number. Um, >> which one are you referring to, Stephen? >> On the first page, it says blast by year. >> Uhhuh.
>> Oh, okay. That's just a chart. There's like two charts put together, so I'm a little confused. Uh, I I'm not sure what the line chart showing. >> Yeah, this is just the average the average um the max and the men. The only reason why I had it this way was because
there in in 2024 there's a lot of um DVs going up and down, right? >> Mhm. So we have to choose like what do we want to showcase? Do we want to showcase the average? Do you want to showcase the minimum or do we want to showcase the maximum? From my standpoint is the average can always be skewed
because if today they blast really high PPV then tomorrow they just have to blast a lot of small blasts, >> right? >> So your average >> I want to show right I do want to show the average because our whole argument for with private legislation is we're not asking for anything other than
average, right? We're just we're just trying to prevent that 76 that 0.59 that 045. We don't we don't care if they're at 0.15 for all the time, right? That was our whole argument. So I I like showing the average and the max because
I want to show that the average is not that is is what they're doing half the time is okay. It's the other half that we don't want them to do. >> Right. If we do average though, it's going to it's going to diminish the amount of impact
>> that a that a high a high uh a single high blast is. >> Right. Well, no, I get Well, we want to show that even though their average is 0.21, they're still blasting at 76 sometimes. Right. >> Right.
>> That's the way I look at it is uh and and the legislation right now is not about telling them how to blast. It's it's the you know it's the the claims process again. But when when we're speaking with with representatives in anywhere, it doesn't
matter local, state, what at any level, I like making sure they understand that we're not asking them to do anything they're not already doing. All we're asking them is to behave and and not go
to 76, not go to 045. just stay our ask was stay based off this chart stay a little bit below your average which means half the time they were below their average which is exactly what we told the committee almost you know a year and a half I can't believe it's been almost two years now uh that's
exactly what we told them 50% of the time we're not complaining because we think they're within reasonable limits so I like showing the average not to not to say that they're they're being good neighbors but to say their average means that we're not asking them to do anything they can't already. They're not
capable of doing because their their position is going to be uh increase construction, increase cost. We can't do that. That that's their fall back. And it's simply not true because half the time they are doing what we're asking them to do around half the time. Uh so
that's why the average is important. It's it's a good talking point because when you when you're going in front of the anybody and trying to convince them that this uh very important very strong
industry needs to be regulated at some in some way which is not what the current legislation does at all. Um you got to show that we're not we're not we're not we're not being crazy here. are actually asking them to be around average, just average all the time.
Penalize them for going over average, >> right? >> So that that's why that average is very important number in my opinion, especially when you're dealing with people that are not from Dade or Broward or at at a certain point. They they don't understand this at all. Now they
do, but you know what? There's turnover every two years. Every four years is turnover. So we'll be speaking with people that don't know anything about it. Uh, so that's why that average is important. Average, total complaints, total blast, average,
>> and um, and cities. Those are the most important ones. But that city, I wouldn't put minimum PV. I'll get rid of that. I don't care about that. >> Um, but those those cities need to be cleaned up a lot. I want it to be a lot shorter. That's all. Um, Stephen, you
see the one that he has up on the screen right now, the mine impact one, how it has a relationship between each mine, the number of complaints for >> those specific mines, and then it has the ppb above, right?
>> What you're saying, what if instead we use that chart? Obviously, we working it, reworking it because we don't want 6,000 to show up as not found, right? Oh yeah obviously. >> Um what if we replace exactly what you're discussing but with that chart?
Okay, we can show what each one of them is responsible for, what the max PPVs have been in those different minds. So it shows the ones that are good and the ones that are consistently good. But then he adds a line for
>> average for average. Okay? Because when you add a line for average, you prove his point that if Now you're cutting it off. What is it? If seaming two two charts is what you're saying. >> Yeah.
>> Well, instead of editing the chart that we've been referencing, I think we should edit this one because it requires one change and it illustrates all the information in one plus the minds that are generating the impact. So if he adds another line on there with the average,
right, it'll show that SDI on average their max PPV is.3. Their average is going to be a lot less than than.3, right? It'll show that Florida Rock their max is 27 and that their
average is lower than that. But then it'll show that Samx's average is let's say.5, right? So their average is higher than the goal. Plus their max is much higher than the goal. And if these other companies are able to maintain their average,
>> right? >> While still blasting higher but lower than that goal, >> then they'll see it's doable. >> Exactly. And then that's what we did at the at that hearing where we we we showed that there's uh there's the my
SDI tied in and Florida Rock. they they just blast so much less and they're smaller minds as well, but we showed that they're when they blast their blast are so much weaker and and and yet, you know, they're still in business. They're not they're not I'm sure they're making
money, right? I think I actually said that exact those exact words. They make a profit, too. >> So, it it is it is two minds. I'm surprised CX is so so much less blasting. I I really interested where those 3,400 not found go. >> Oh, those are complaints that um they
weren't registered to they weren't assigned to a blast. >> Oh, they were not assigned to a specific blast. >> Th this number each the number of points that you that you're calling out belongs is basically part of the column here. I'm surprised that White Rock is lower
than 49. Matter of fact, a high loss. Um, by my memory. >> Oh, you you want you're saying that should be higher >> that? Yeah,
the CMX is the highest one. 76. Um I'll look up >> just can you if you can review that um because I remember White Rock had um >> Rock I think it was in December two years ago
>> 17th if I remember right. So, based on what we've discussed today, I'm I'm going to kind of illustrate to you what your new cover page is going to look like. Okay? You're going to have the total complaints to total blocks. Then, you're going to have
the complaints by city. That complaint by city, I'm going to make you a new list. Let's call it like the example Stephen gave. how it's going to have Southwest region, uh, unincorporated day county, Miami Lakes,
whatever. Okay, I'm going to make you a little bulleted list right here. >> Okay, >> for that particular chart so that you know what the new buckets should be, okay? I want you for this specific chart, I want you to send a draft of
your revised chart and then from there I'll tell you how to group the others >> based on um Stephen's recommended logic, right? >> And then that um once you give it to me, I'll provce you give it to us throughout
we'll provide the updated and then we can present it at the next meeting or at that point we could share it with Stephen and get his feedback and that sort of thing. for this particular chart because you're not leaving with it >> completely uh edited from today's le. Okay. That one still needs a little more
work. Then your second chart on the on the cover is going to be uh last year. >> Yes, the first page. On the first page, >> Miguel, right, Miguel wanted that one
on on it. Um, and this one is not my uh area of expertise. So, I'll let him provide whatever changes he wants for that particular graph. Okay. >> Well, the only thing um on mentioning
that Stephen um pointed out not to put the minimum, but I disagree with that because the minimum with the maximum gives you the average. So and and if you if you remove the the for for clarity sake remove the minimum
we only have the max where you getting the average from it's not going to make sense. So I >> illustrate what the average is without showing the minimum. >> Yeah we would have the average. We don't need to illustrate the math on on the on the document. They just you know having three lines and and the minimum is a
minimum and for some it's going to be zero. I I just don't see the benefit of the minimum. The average is what is mo well honestly the max is what's most important when we're trying to say look we have problems the average shows that
we're not our our ask previously was not crazy uh the minimum what is what's what is it they know the math comes from somewhere I don't think we need to show our our work on the chart right >> the minimum just makes it >> given a foundation
>> because a foundation we're referring to I wouldn't didn't show the these parts just this diagram. >> Yeah. Just that part on the on the mind section. >> Yeah. >> So that chart when you update it, you send it to >> I'm going to put Miguel's in charge of
that one. Okay. And then Miguel will provide feedback cuz like that's not my thing. I I don't even understand what's being illustrated there. I going to try to give you instruction. >> Okay. So then the next chart is going to be your number three is going to be mind impact.
Wait, I'm sorry I skipped one. That's going to be your number three. >> So your number three is going to be um total blast by PPV which is the one on the first page right now including the edits that we discussed today. So you're going to fix the decimals. You're going to remove the varying the variation of
the color differentiation. And then you're going to replace not recorded not found for something like not recorded data. Like let's let's get to the bottom of why those are not found. And then let's put text that really illustrates you know that the
miners didn't put uh uh uh the form was submitted without data or something like that. Okay. So those are the >> processed >> changes for this graph and that's your number three. And then your number four graph is mine impact. So this is the one that Stephen and us just talked about,
right? It's going to show semics, titan, white rod, whatever. And then the not found. We're going to dissect why they're not found. We're going to get to the bottom of that to allocate them into the proper bud buckets that they should be in. Then you're going to show the average line.
And then you're going to show the max which is already there. If so, um that's for my impact. So the final thing should look like this. >> And and again on that just double check the number the max
>> for a white. >> Yeah. In general considering white ros being higher >> a higher reading. >> Look like this. >> Okay. this you're going to since we're we're going to rework it, right? Knowing that
Miguel is in charge of these sections because they're more PPV related to his expertise. Okay. I'll guide you through the cities and the and the allocating them in the right buckets. Okay. Um we're going to simplify the cover a lot
compared to all of these different different reports that you generated. Okay. We're going to call this the cover. And again those those items you could just send them as a JPEG so that I just can move them around. >> We're not there yet
nowhere. >> So then inside pages. >> Okay. >> Do we want to you want to dictate those now? Inside pages or you want to just handle the cover page first and >> No. You're going to go with all your homework. >> Okay. >> You're the teacher.
>> Okay. So then the inside pages are specifically going to be broken down by each city that gets outlined >> on the complaints on number one. >> So think of it as number one but diving
in deeper. Okay. Number one. Um so in the inside page you're going to have the same layout, total complaints, total blast, and then you're going to have the charts. One, two, three.
Now what are the four charts that you find helpful from this report to include in the actual individual cities? My personal opinion is
that in each individual thing we include a duplicate of the color that pertain of the cover that pertains to that specific city. That's my idea. >> What do you mean? >> So the cover shows the cities, the blast
by year, the mine impact, and the total >> summary of each city on that. >> So now when we're on the Halo page, the uninorporated day county page. Okay. It's going to tell me in my city. >> Yeah. >> How many people complained? >> It's going to be super simple and really
that's what the goal is, right? To simplify the information. How many blocks happen in uh per year that people complain about in Halia County? which mine is a
fall or higher position in >> for that zip code and the total blast by PPV in that area. >> Y >> take the same information just easy enough. So the only chart that's different is
the first one because it's going to be a breakdown of complaints for that city. >> And how many we need more? >> Oh, hold on. >> I guess that that'll be decided once we
um once I have the complaint list um set and I send it to her. Um, and then we group the cities together by zip code. I think that would that would dictate, >> right? >> But I mean, because the reality is, you know, you have Aventur's one, one, these
things that that there's no reason to have that information on there. Um, so you're you're looking at my looking at maybe four um four pages. This comes out to all. >> Yeah.
No, but it'll be specific to to the data specific to those areas >> the regional just I have I have to leave in 15 minutes. Um, I think my son
[Music] >> and thank you pointing it out on the PPVs. I didn't notice a um because in the grouping when I put the cubes I just put the decimal in the wrong place. It is there but it's just on the the visual the visual when you see it it has
it like that. It's going to be way more confusing with the extra zero in the front. You're going to get like 0.16 of my thoughts. That's crazy. >> Okay. Okay, you see how in my breakdown per city I
put Miami Lakes, city of Halia, Miramar. You're going to include like obviously the Hollywood should fold into the Miramar, the Pompano should fold into there. Okay. unincorporated date. That's the bucket that's going to have your PSN, Country
Club, all the unincorporated esplanade, like those communities. Okay, Southwest Florida if any. Remember how Stephen mentioned that there may be like any county complaints or whatever. If that exists, then obviously you're going to make a little line for them. Okay. And then we're going to separate Myar and
Pam Brook Pine. >> Yeah. >> In the cover. >> Mhm. make Pam Brook Pines and Miar Broward County, >> okay, >> in the in the cover. When we divide it in the inside pages, then you could
break it down in this chart like Pines and Miramar to show how much more come from Miramar and Pines. But I want you to segregate Broward into like a line. >> Okay. So, >> and then when you go into the cities, then you see what cities they're good
idea. Okay. So, Okay, so I put brow up there, but now you understand my logic. Okay, city of whatever incorporate county and then that's your PS and country club whatever Southwest Florida if it exists. Penrook Pines in is going to be Broward and
Miramar in the cover is going to be Broward. Helia Gardens, we're going to keep it separate for now. Okay. And then and in this first version that you sent to IO, I want you to detail about what what other means. Five addresses are in blah blah blah. six addresses or blah
blah blah. Okay? And then based on how you do this, then I'm going to send you a revised list on how to categorize them in the cover versus each page. >> Okay? This Franchesca in charge of this, this this Miguel in charge.
>> Okay? >> Um, I'm going to give you my two little drawings so that you have something to take home and reference. garbage. I'm going to take a picture of this for the this >> the uh I'd like to the next meeting
official meeting we have is the 24th. Um I'd like to see that as the final final approval and we've been sent to print. >> Okay. >> So do you think we should meet one more time prior to that or just remotely is good enough? >> So let's do that. Let's give you
timelines of when you're going to give us these new things because if we get an update every today's Wednesday. >> Yeah. >> Every Wednesday. Then by next Wednesday we can determine you know what this is too confusing to do via email. Let's meet one more time
>> cuz the holidays are coming up in two weeks. So I I don't know that anyone wants to commit to uh to an inerson meeting. Um I will be traveling so as long as it's something booked with time. >> How much time do you need to generate that?
>> Uh the first page um technically all this like I have done this weekend. Um on the weekend so Wednesday. >> Okay. So that's not a problem for you then. >> This is a weekend. I just need time to me like working at night or on the weekend is good. So >> do you like if I tell you that you're
going to give me give us this updated version by Monday? Is that a reasonable time? >> Wednesday is better. just cuz um yeah cuz Monday's like it's just packed with things and then it if I commit to it I might not make it and then it's like it's >> right okay so then Wednesday's fine so
then when you provide it on Wednesday I can give you the feedback from my section I'm only going to speak about mine right now I can give you my feedback Friday >> okay the same >> okay so Miguel will do by the Friday and then when we give you the feedback you
have to say okay I think we need to meet again. And if that is the case, then maybe we meet the following Wednesday or something like that. Or, you know, we'll coordinate with >> uh that following week because that following week is the week of the 17th.
It's the week before Thanksgiving and it's the week before we meet that Monday because like Miguel was saying, we want to come to next Monday's meeting and be like, "Hey guys, this is the final final. Like, >> we're good to go. We're going to print it out. I was going to put on the
website. Ready to go." Okay. Um, so we have our time frames then. Do I need to like >> repeat it again? Do we need an email to recap? What's the deal? >> Edwin's >> Edwin did Edwin's the lead on this. So when he stuff we'll have it by Wednesday
and by Friday you and I will return the info. go and Fran deadline 11:14 and then we regroup Monday 1117 to schedule if needed
needed that week. Okay. And then then if meeting is a 24 which we all know. So um I make a motion towards it. Are you good? >> Yeah, I'm good. Second.
>> All right. Few seconds. All in favor? >> I meeting a journ. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. >> Making stretch. >> Okay guys, I'll see you later. >> Thank you, Stephen. You're >> welcome. Thanks for your work. Thank you
guys.