Hi. Can you hear me? Hi guys. Can you hear me? I can't hear you all, but I'm unmuted. Hi. Yeah, I can hear you now. Can you hear me? >> Yes, I can hear you. Are you turn on the video? >> Um, no, not right now.
>> Okay. It's part of the committee rules that the video is on. So, when the meeting starts, if you're >> Okay, got it. Got it. >> Yeah. So much stuff. I mean, I wonder if it was the >> Okay, I'm going to put us off mute until the meeting starts.
Hi guys. I think Rudy's um in the waiting room. >> You should rename him so he's not >> Let's see. should be able >> I'll give permission to also for entering so
>> but he's but he's probably driving so >> right there >> I have to go to the keyboard >> oh I thought he was working off this computer >> oh no that's my personal laptop he's online uh he's on his way here I
And we will meet in the forum until Mario. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Do you hear us, Rudy? You're on mute right now. Rudy, you're on mute. >> There he is. >> I know. I know. I know. Sorry, guys. I
was trying to uh send Okay. Did you rename me already, Isabella? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay, great. Thanks. I wanted to make sure that was that was I was trying to figure it out was on my end to make sure. What did you rename me to? Oh, there we go. Rudy, awesome. Beautiful. Thanks. Thank you, Jav. Hi, guys.
>> Hi. >> Hi. >> Happy hump day. >> This is my second meeting tonight. >> What? >> Oh, there's no Okay.
Um, >> you want to call to order or >> uh Rudy's on in the car right now. So, we don't have our vice chair here. So, are you okay running the meeting virtually, Rudy? Or do you want >> You can have Mario do that. That I'm okay with that. In the meantime, um, I
don't want to just trying to go back at the agenda back and forth. If you're okay, Mario, I appreciate it. I should be there shortly anyways. But, okay. >> I'll call this meeting to order at 7:44. Roll call. Uh, Felicia >> Frank.
Uh, Secretary Here. Perfect. >> Remember to turn your camera on. >> I'm here. Oh, okay. >> Javier's here. Jesus Venosa. >> No. >> No. Juan here. >> And Rudy. Perfect. Order of business.
Deferrals, additions, or deletions? >> I have an addition. >> You have an addition. Okay. Uh, new business. I would like to add HClinary bike ride. >> So, you want C to new business?
>> Yes. Bike bike ride. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. So, new business C. Any other deferrals? Addition. >> Do we have the HA?
Sorry, you broke up. >> Put HOA quarterly meetings on the agenda. >> Yes, we do. We have it there. >> Okay, perfect. >> Are you able to take minutes since you're in the car? It looks like, Helen, >> I'm um I'm in the passenger seat, so I'm able to jot some down. Yeah. [laughter]
>> Okay. Just making sure. >> If you guys don't mind giving me giving me a second if someone can take it for like the next minute while I get a pen, that's all I need. >> Okay. Okay. So, so far it's been one motion. >> One motion. >> Okay. No other deferrals, additions, or
deletions. None. Public comments. >> None. >> No public comments. Okay. Approval of minutes. Let's take a look at uh
last meeting was uh August. Motion to approve. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I approve. House stuff pound staff updates. >> Uh well, my main updates really with
Aiden Perry, but that's already on the agenda, so that can wait till um on to old business. Old Bids the same way to beautify under the Pomemetto Estster. Any updates on that? So I did review the master beautifification plan
and I couldn't find anything explicitly saying what we had discussed in our meetings in the plan that the council agreed to add to it the day that we asked them to add to it. Uh there was some mention of LED lighting but not to the extent that we had uh asked for.
>> I do recall that they are doing some construction there. They're put I guess they're going to move. >> No, I think they're doing something with the barrier but or on the median but uh yes they are doing construction there. We were uh told to >> maintain a holding pattern until [clears throat] that construction
completed. >> Okay. >> But I still don't think that the master beautifification plan >> there's nothing on the master beautifification plan that found out. >> Correct. >> Okay. Moving on to old business B and
I'm very here life drinking ship. >> Um so I was kind of chatting with some of you before the meeting started but our handyman has started to install the Perry project this week. Um so the locations have been marked um and we have all the materials needed to get the
signs and wooden post up. So once we have that finalized then they'll give us the information about where in Port Everglades we can actually pick up the rings. I know. Um then we'll be closer to finalizing this project for the 10 10 locations. So that's where
>> are we doing are we doing like a formal event or is that something we should decide like tonight? >> Uh well I think you guys kind of mentioned it at your last meeting to do some type of ceremony or something. So you can definitely >> we said we were going to invite her as well. >> So
>> but we can't have a date yet because we don't know when they're going to get installed. Mhm. >> So wooden installation. >> Okay. >> Then >> just the wooden >> the wooden where the Yeah. rain's going. Yeah. >> Apparently we don't have all the pools set up and ready to go. They won't give us the light. >> Right. Exactly. Yeah.
>> And are we still paying extra for for like getting them or is the town paying for this >> to pick them up or just to get them? >> Yeah, to pick them up. Wasn't there like a fee? >> Yeah, it's going to be We're not going to pay delivery because Mario volunteered to pick them up. So that won't be an addition.
>> Got it. I think it's >> I've been trying to get an address. >> I've >> Yeah, one is also Yeah, [laughter] >> it's like mysterious. >> I know. I know. >> Actually, if you go to the Pin Brook Pines City Center,
>> I was there. They had an art festival and they have a canal and there was I looked and there was >> the range. >> So, it looked nice. >> So, >> okay, moving on to old business C lake awareness and how to protect our waterways. >> Okay. Yeah,
at the last meeting I presented my um >> evening we I had a meeting with um Susanna Alonso um >> yeah Justin and Omar um from public works and basically what
I did and actually Jeremy asked me to update him on this. I already sent him the whole packet that I think this is what we did is we had a meeting and basically we picked or I provided her with a list of u several fertilizer ordinance uh
linking uh Florida counties and municipalities. So there's the list. Uh I think Lake County has a lot of lakes like us. The other ones I think Oola and Orange County which is further north they do have lakes and but Miami date
and corables and city of Miami basically have canals. So so we would trying to concentrate on municipalities that are similar to us and have you know their their ordinances and um basically you can read through
it. I want to read. So what Omar told us is that some lakes are private and belong to. So it's it's up to them to allow us to or I think there's something that you can have the town come in and check the lake and so forth.
>> Didn't we test on those? Didn't we do a test on >> Actually, in my report here, the last lake inspection was done May of 2018 and the report is dated 2019. >> Yeah. So the source is the website and
um the the like I said it needs to be an advocacy agree for the residents uh and inspection um is going to cost money. So one thing that Omar from public uh works uh told me is that some lake was kind of
strange uh are owned by Miami lakes and the county. So if we want that specific lake that's owned also by the by the county request an inspection the county can pay for it. The other ones it has to come out of our own pocket. So that we
need to decide which ones or find out which one are the ones that are because of dual ownership. Uh and some some of them have like ement and drainage. uh so they cannot verify you know again in the other item less they don't know if
people are what kind of fertilizer have been is being used so that's something that took a long check um and then the recommendation was the staff to review each submitted ordinance in depth and select the most applicable lakes and
create an ordinance that's more stringent than the current one for the county and make it simple and enforceable so that's the goal you know, so basically if you have any questions, actually I sent an email u
because she took it on is uh what have they have they done? So they haven't responded. So Jeremy wants to know you what's going on. So I copied him on it like I told you before and like I said I follow up again uh tomorrow following
week to see what you know the planning department has if they have read all the information I given and there's a there's a link to all the the lakes and information data on it. So uh so but basically this
is what I was able to do that >> question but yeah >> the lakes that are owned by the town don't do they tested by the town >> that's a good question um we have to find out what have they have done I know I know there there's that lake
um that you can crap into it I think it I think it's a county and they tell you know about the lakes but I'm not sure I I don't have time to really Let's take one >> and one more to Aier. You know that the HOAs that are on the special tactical on
lakes or maybe Rudy can't answer that. Do they provide testing with for them or do you know? >> So the HOAs is just up the race when they want to test it. Uh the ones that are special taxing district I don't know >> because they provide they do a lot of maintenance on those legs. Right Ruby?
whether or not the HO whether or not the special backing districts whether they cover regular testing for pesticides and stuff like that they do. >> So there's there we need to figure out the county ones paid by the county but the ones that are privately owned by the residents the testing has been done
maybe we could get reports from them. >> I like I like we test once a year or every two years until every quarter. Yeah, like I said, this is what I gather and it's finding out which legs have been tested or which town and which can
be paid by the county >> because the reason they haven't done it according to Walmart from public works is because they don't have the budget to the test. So, some have been done already and then we need to find out you know the status of
which lakes have been tested. >> Yeah. What I I think first step is just really identifying all the lakes and then seeing who it belongs to. And for the county, look, if the county hasn't tested it, it's probably reaching out to Commissioner Garcia, >> you know, just find out what his office could help us with.
>> According to Jeremy, the as long as the lake has access to a green area or a park, the the town can have access to it to test it. >> Yeah. If it's enclosed and there's no
access from outside, that's this. >> Okay. Then then I would check that too because I know with lock aisle there's pocket there's a couple pocket parks. So that give access to the lake even though it's enclosed. >> So probably checking out even maybe
that's a green space. Yes, we do have juris not jurisdiction. I don't remember the word that we used is because not >> yeah they just have access to it. Would he be able to do that do that assessment as to what legs are whose or is that something you need to say what? >> I cannot guarantee anything else
>> or Yeah. or have someone >> Nobody knows. We had a meeting uh one time here with this lady that there was dead animals ducks or whatever in her lake. And we push we put her in touch. She she called her off and we put her in
touch with with actually Jeremy and Omar and actually was about the three of us and then I think I never heard back from her. So I guess they cleaned it up or they did some kind of because I I think her leg
was closed. >> Okay, let the record show that Rudy's [snorts] here. Go ahead. >> 17 doesn't see anything. >> Okay. So, item 7D in green space going towards 87.
>> Again, we're waiting for DOT. There's uh some kind of rumor they're going to do a gold sack there or some kind of thing there. So, we're just waiting for uh information on that to continue. >> I can't wait to see that. >> Yeah. >> Traffic. Today was full traffic. every
day over the bridge. >> We can't wait to see that. >> All right, we're moving on to new business 8 NICA meeting, Miss [clears throat] Rod.
>> Awesome. Can you guys hear me? Okay. >> Yes. >> Awesome. Um, so tonight, um, we actually did have Ron McIll confirmed to come speak for the residents, but, um, >> yeah. >> What? Awesome.
>> That was later, >> can you hear me a little better? >> Wait, can you hear me better? >> Yes, we're better. >> Okay, awesome. Um, so we did have Ron Miguel set to come tonight. Um, but we we obviously decided to move it because
um last meeting since we didn't meet, we weren't able to vote on the budget. Um, so I do have him pending. Um, he's we sent over a few dates. So, thank you um Isabella and and Rudy um for helping me
um limit the or figure out the the dates that made sense for us, the committee and the town. Um I'm still waiting on um a final date, but um I was told that he should be um one of the dates should
work between January or February. So, um, with that being said, I know I don't think I can vote tonight, but I would like us to vote on approving a budget so that once, um, once I get that final date, I can coordinate with the town on
um, what we need to order like food, beverage, etc. So that we can we can host this meeting um, in the yeah, at the start of the year. So, is does that sound right, Isabella, or did I misinterpret anything? >> Nope, that sounds good. [laughter]
>> Okay, awesome. So, I'm I mean, I think it would be enough with like 350 300. Um, I don't know how the rest of the committee feels, so please share your thoughts. >> Chair, do you remember that NIC's budget
was cut significantly? So, if you take a look at your budget report, right? So if that's your next >> that's the total >> that's the total for your fiscal year. So if you dedicate >> 300 750 for the whole that's >> so if you dedicate 300 to this event
that's going to limit you what you can >> 750 $750 $750 >> for the year. >> Wow. That's our budget. >> We complain we have during budget season >> they cut a lot of the committ all of
them. So it's not just the military. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. >> Well, in that case, >> do we find a sponsor? >> You can find a sponsor. >> Yeah. Find a spot. >> More fundraising. >> I think um um
>> Okay. >> We talked about maybe bringing a legal firm, right? Um and kind of mixing in for that same day. >> Yes. And I do have a legal firm. Actually, I didn't bring that up. Um,
but I do have a firm that um they're focused on HOAs, COAs, condos. Um, so they sent over a bunch of documents on like what they can talk about. Um, so I I did want to bring that up. Do we want to merge it into one like have that
session beforehand? Maybe have like multiple different agencies table and then have like Ron be the guest speaker. >> Yeah. What form is it? >> I think we did that before, didn't we? We didn't have other speakers or other guests. We did have a law firm. We did.
>> Which is the law firm? >> Um it's let me get the right name for you. Um yeah, you probably know them. Um so this is like their specialty area. It's um Dost God. Hold on, it's in my uh
God dose and cross firm. And so they specialize um in community association law. >> They're not they're not based down here. They're down in Kendall, right? >> They're based in uh the Gables. >> The Gables. >> Yeah. >> So I I'm I mean I'm I'm for it on that
case. I would just ask him and say, "Hey, you know, we got the approval. By any chance, can you know, will you be able to uh sponsor the event?" Um and you know, bring some refreshments. I think I think that would be great. And we could say, you know, the a sponsored
by such and such. >> Give them a we would give them a table or something and maybe social media. >> Of course. >> Mhm. >> We can put their logo on the flyer. >> Yeah. >> Can we um Yeah. You mentioned social media. Can we Is that something we
should vote on? Like can we leverage the town social media to promote? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. This event would be posted on our social media. Um, we just need to know quite in advance because I know we mentioned January, we're already late November, >> you know, the holidays, it's hard to
advertise. So, when we have the date settled and all those details, we can put something together. >> Okay, perfect. So, >> website and all that. >> What were the options, Helen? >> The date options. >> What did you say? >> The date options.
>> Let me find the email that we sent them. Um, no, there's like a followup today because I was hoping to have an answer um by tonight's meeting. Um, okay. So, we sent over January 21, uh,
January 28th, February 4th, and February 18. If need be, I can send a couple more dates like if we [clears throat] want to go into mine. Actually, I got them. uh January 21st 121,
128, 24, and 218. >> Yes. >> And two of those meetings land on our NIC regular meetings. >> Correct. Yeah. >> I vote either for the 28th or the ETH
because there's nothing around that in the holiday. You know, 18th, you're getting close to to Valentine's a couple days and then January 21st is right after the holiday. So >> they Valentine's Day >> they're not they're not going out of
town to celebrate us. >> You never know doesn't celebrate. Nobody. >> Yeah. >> I guarantee you that. I I would love to hear. I mean anyways that's our NAC meeting. So it's it's our regular meeting anyways. I mean >> President Day on the 16th and Martin Luther King Day on the 19th.
>> Oh yeah. It's a holiday. >> You're not going to have a good time. >> You're not going to have a good time. So the 28th is uh January 28th is >> no our our meeting is the 21st of January.
>> So we'll see at the end of the day we had to send them four days right so something that they can pick and let's see where they come back and then we'll take it from there. Well, yeah, but give them like the days we'd write like to focus on which I think would probably be the 28th and what was the other one we're looking for.
>> Yeah, those are back toback weeks. So, >> yeah, I think these are better. >> Tell them, hey, look, these are these are the four dates we'd like to like focus on the 4th and the 28th if you have if you're available for those, but if not, those other two. >> Okay. And by 28, you mean January 28, right?
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Just one of the options, right? >> Right. Okay. Perfect. >> And then with regards to the law firm, um I say we vote on the funds today.
>> Well, how much are we going to ask them for? >> 500. >> I say 500. >> Right. But I'm saying this for us, right? Because in the event they may turn around and says, "Listen, I can't do 500." >> Then we still have the event covered. >> Correct. I don't want it to come back again to a meeting to then go because
that's what happens last month since we could have Okay. >> So, we can't use it. Great. >> I'll make a motion to approve the earning $50 for the HOA event on whatever date they choose, January 28th, 21st, February 8th, or 4th.
>> And I I would modify if in the event we don't get a sponsorship. >> I second that motion. >> Second for discussion. Uh can do we need to have a sponsorship form like we do for the other day?
>> Uh since it would be one sponsor, we don't have to make a sponsorship package. >> No, it's whatever the check they do and then we process it on our end. >> Well, because what I was going to also say in the event that they're unable to financially commit, >> you know, we could also talk around maybe get like gift cards from see if
Publix will donate some gift cards or some of the other bakeries or something like that. Some local places may be able to donate some things. Vicky Baker will probably >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do who has a contact with Vicky Bakery? Anyone in the committee?
>> I can get the contract. That's good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He'll just need the date. >> Yeah. >> And they can do >> they can do little boxes. They often do. >> Okay. And yeah, I can also I can ask Publix if need be.
Awesome. If you go ask them something, you have to go to corporate. Sounds good. Was there anything else? Uh, >> um, no. I think I mean I I can't imagine um the firm like not being willing but
in case they aren't I mean if anyone has any other recommendations like I think they'll like I I think they're good but just in case um feel free to send over and I can coordinate >> in the event that they say no if you could let Isabella know and she can
share it with the rest of us because I have one or two folks I could probably reach out to that might be that could be interested. I haven't spoken to them obviously, but I could reach out. >> Okay. Okay, perfect. Awesome. >> And are we going to give them like a few minutes to speak or is it just going to be a
sponsorship with the table available if they would >> I I mean honestly I I think we should give them some time to speak like I >> a minimum 30 minutes. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. No, I just want to double check 50 minutes in that topic.
>> You're not getting much. Good enough before the guy says, "Oh, question." That's it. 15 minutes can be gone on that one question. >> Okay. >> And do we have um uh just final question uh for Isabella. Do we have a updated list of HOAs? I think you said that we
did last we spoke about this. >> I think I sent you all an HOA list earlier this year. Um I'm not mistaken. Let me double check with the staff member who knows about the HOAs if he
has a more updated list than the one I sent you. >> We presume you guys are the ones that send these communications to the HOAs. >> Um >> I mean as far as communications, we really just do our website and social media, our newsletters and things like that. Individually communicating with
OohAs. There we go. Uh we haven't really done before. So, I mean, I can see if we can, but it might be the neighborhood improvement volunteering to do that. Um, but I'll check on fire department then. >> Well, I mean, I think there's like a
list, but I don't know how up to date it is. >> I know. We did an update. We did that update and almost like six, seven years and we never got done the complete ran out of >> I think it's I think it was like maybe 15% that we got through. >> Yeah. Then we saw
>> the numbers you would call and the good thing is is that with most traways there's at least some semblance of the same people. >> No one ever wants to go. >> All right. Was there anything else headed? >> No, just um I guess time to vote.
>> Okay. Well, thank you so much for for getting this done with Ron. Um great job. So now we're just hopefully the lock in those days. >> We still have a motion on the table. Do I know him? Call for whatever. >> All in favor?
>> I >> I You got to say I >> didn't hear you. >> You might say hi. I just [laughter] >> All right. The eyes have it guys. No. All right. Moving on to the next item.
Uh >> yeah. So, as you know, um, council passed that no committee meetings can start later than 7:30. So, since you all haven't met, there's not an official motion for your set meeting time. So, if it's 7:30, I just need an official
motion. >> So, no committee can meet earlier than 7:30. >> Later, later. >> So, that rule doesn't apply to things like special calls or something like that, but the regular committee meetings cannot meet later. So >> what special caller was musical?
>> I just listen until next movie. [laughter] >> I said >> it's a good one. >> A good one. >> I like how you think. >> Poor she's like >> haven't met forever. So I just need a motion. >> I'm going to motion and then we're going
to go into discussion and I'm not going to go into but motion uh that our meetings moving forward will be at 7:30 p.m. Second. Second >> discussion. >> All right. Um, it was second already by
Estrada. Um, we're going to put discussion. Listen, um, I don't know where to start and I'm not going to make this a noa. Okay. Um,
but I will go on the record that the way that this was handled, I have no words to express and I typically have a lot of words to express. Nobody reached out to me. Nobody reached
out to this committee. Um, nobody showed up here and sit down and say, "Hey, we have this that's coming up for the council uh to discuss. What do you guys
think?" Um, nobody did a survey of any other committees as far as my information goes. Um, this was straight up. We're going to do it because we're the council and we have that power and your opinion does not matter. bottom line. And correct me if I'm
wrong, uh, Isabella, but we're the only committee that meets at 8:30. Correct. >> To my knowledge, yes. >> Right. So, on top of that, in my personal humble opinion, this committee was targeted.
So farther, it would have merit somebody at a minimum to send a communication to pass out a memo and say, "Hey guys, you know, this is going on because of
this. What do you guys think?" Because when they want us to vote for something, when they want us to review something, when they want our signature on a piece of paper, people start showing up here. They uh
they say communications. Um what can we meet? How can we help? So for this, I'm I'm speechless on how unprofessional this matter was discussed. Um,
so I thought, well, let me draft a communication, bring it to the committee, approve it, and send it to the council. But the most disappointing part as a
volunteer, it's what is that going to do, right? Is that going to get people upset now? Are they're going to retaliate towards our committee? I mean, I I'm I'm speechless. I I really
I I'm I'm so disgusted, right, about the actions that were taken, how everything went about that nobody cared. This whole thing that I hear, oh, we care about the communities and yes, and and let's
empower them. It's all BS in my eyes. um based on facts. This is not based on opinion. This com is actually based on the facts that took place and how we got
to this mandates. Um, I mean I I I was not at the last one, but I if I recall correctly, I was at the NIC, excuse me, the committee chairs meeting. Nobody said anything. Um, nobody said anything to one prior to
that, but we're very fast to say, well, we want to hear the voice of the committees when we're updating rules. Let me go sell it to them. We want to hear what you have to say. But this specific one, nobody had the audacity or
or the the decency of saying, shoot, let let me let's even if it's just a show, right? Let me go knock on the door and say, "Hey, this is what's going on. This is our thought process behind, you know,
cutting." And we realized because we asked these are very smart individuals, at least in my opinion. So, I'm sure they asked, "What committee members are meeting after 7:30 p.m.?" So, um
I I don't know what to say, guys. I'm I'm disgusted. I really am. And and the way that this went about. So, if we do the letter, great. I'll draft it. I'll bring it back. what what are
they going to do right after the fact to let them know the improper process that they used or they held for for this to happen? Um again I I have I have no
words no words. Uh so the floor is open to you >> through the chair. Uh Isabella, do we know why they they decided this? Is is it a a monetary issue? we're praying all time and we just don't want people in the building after that time or we're spending too much. Is it is it something
in that realm or is just like >> uh I believe this uh specific motion was brought by the mayor. Um his reasoning you can look back on on the minutes and all of that. I think it had to do with staff being here at that hour and little
elements like that. Um it was brought to the agenda. It went through the second reading. So, it's been out there for a while. It wasn't like allin-one and you know, you didn't hear about it again. So, it did happen earlier this year. Um, I want to say it was in the late summer,
early August, I believe, was when I was emailing with you all. But, if you do want to do a letter as a committee, if you feel like it was targeted in any way, I can always help bring that to the clerk's office and then it'll be distributed. And my second question in when we do have meetings at 8:30, aren't
they scheduled in the same process as followed with the other meetings? So which we're not picking an extra day per right. >> Right. Right. All the meetings are scheduled. >> So the only difference would be that we're not staff wouldn't be here after 8:30 is basically
>> Well, I I don't want to reason for the mayor, right? His reasoning, I'm sure, was part of that memo. I don't remember off the top of my head. So I encourage you all to look back on those minutes to see what the reasoning was. I just remember that was one of the the elements of it. So >> um yeah, I don't want to speak on his
behalf, but that's what I remember. >> I mean there is a council meeting every month and there's staff there sometime until 12:00 at night time. So again, >> yeah,
>> right. um whatever you guys want to do. If if you guys saying Rudy um as a committee, we're united in this topic. Okay? And go for it. Draft the letter and each of us
will sign our name on that letter, not just yourself at the bottom, expressing to them that yes, this was wrong. Because that that would be honestly with all the respect to everybody, that would be the only way to do it. And we've sat in this committee and we as a committee
has voted for that time because all of us either have families have you know we're driving from Ford and and we've agreed year after year that this was the right time for the committee to meet. So this is not even a chair person thing
like oh you know let me just uh so it has always been addressed that way. So but unless and I respect if you say Rudy look you know whatever it is or what it is I I respect it. I'm not going to be upset at you. Um I'm just upset and
again disgusting how all this went by. So this >> Yes. uh at the last quarterly meeting uh one of the topics of discussion was not the issue of the time but the issue of uh not being able to have quorum that people I mean I know we were down to
when I Mario was there that we only have what six members in this committee used to be a very active committee is is uh and he said bring it up to the I brought it up to my committee but of course you know we got rid of the people that never
showed up and it's to reduce I mean it's up to us to reduce the number of members like instead of having two per council member to have >> one that was that was the only topic that related to committees uh attendance
so far so um the way I see it and I agree with you we agreed to the time because I used to work in the gables and now I'm closer I mean it doesn't affect me anymore >> but um I don't know who here you know refers to the same time or earlier uh
whatever you know is is to make our our everybody because what was it the few times we didn't have >> right right could make it on time >> make it on time >> I think we're beyond it I'm sorry to cut you off uh um uh kicha I think we're beyond the part of the time right is how
this process went about that's that's the most again disgusting part It's not the time, right? Because at the end of the day, hey, so so what is it you're trying to do? Are you trying to push committee members out? I mean,
because I I can you you can well but I don't know, Felicia. I don't know. I at this point in time, I really cannot tell you. >> We told him actually we get a report because we you weren't at the meeting and I started I said, "Well, I'm a member of that committee, right? and on
that then Mario come came in and he finished giving the report. >> So it was good that at least the two of us were there representing NIC. >> Right. >> So um like I said I don't I don't know what what's drove them to this position. >> Yeah.
>> I don't know. If I may, um I Rudy, I mean I I agree with like the process not being the best. Um considering, you know, we were the only committee that was affected by this. So, I mean, I'm in favor of a letter that's talking about
the process. Um if if it's 7:30 meeting, like, you know, if that's like the decision of the council, that's fine. Um 8:30 does work better for me. I think I'd be there if if it was at 8:30, but um you know, we we can adjust I guess accordingly. Um
but I'm in favor of a of a letter. >> Okay. Thank you. But Frank, I know you want to >> I used to be a pretty decent robberish rules expert and Helen knows, but it's been a minute since I've been in that. So, I'm going to pitch something that I think checks out. But I would I would
suggest we have a assembly caucus general working period that calls calls us in at 7:30 with an official call to order starting at um
what would be a fair time? 8:30 anything Frank I maybe 10 years ago >> okay I would tell you hey we're going for it but at this point in time do you really think that and I'm
personally as a chair person as a chair of this committee to to invest energy and time to really, you know, start a bickering battle between our committee and their
legal department. Um, and I get you, trust me. Like I said, if it would have been another 10 years ago, maybe I would have said, "Let's let's do it." But at this point in time, just the way that all this went about, it's not even about the time. It's how it went. It wasn't transparent with this committee. It
wasn't transparent with any committee. Well, Isabella says it's been out there for a minute. So, I don't know for the council, but it didn't come to us, >> right? This affected the committees. >> Right. When the rules were changed and they're changed every so often, where do
you think they come? They come to us. >> So, they were not transparent with the committees or at least with this committee. I don't know if anybody or the committee was aware that this was happening. Maybe they got membles that I don't know about. I doubt it because we're the only ones.
>> Well, that's sorry. >> But doesn't this affect now all the committee because you usually have a committee at this time and then we would come out third. >> So if you did one >> this pertains to all committees. Yes. This this standard. So this was all council agendas. Everything's published
on our website cl the clerk's office. You can always request any memos or anything public records request. So this is all published for full transparency. So it's been >> well for full transparency of them following the process the council but not full transparency with this
committee like they've done and again in my humble opinion like they've done with everything that affects the committees. All right >> that was not full transparency. >> Nobody in this table knew of these changes and as far as my information goes unless you attend these council
meeting other committee members did not know because they were really not affected by it. So no, I I I don't agree that it was full transparency. They followed the law and they follow their lawful process and
amending the time, but no, they were not full transparent. >> So we also never got a formal notification that we needed to start at 7:30. Well, after approved >> after it was approved, then yes, Isabella
>> informed us that, hey, the council approved this. So, you know, you can no longer meet past your starting time of 7:30 p.m. >> Yeah, it was an agenda item for the council. Um, unfortunately, >> is that on our website,
>> but we weren't able to be there to talk to them personally at the council. >> So, >> okay. because we were not notified. >> So, >> well, they assume that it's in agenda. I mean, I came to the meeting last night. I wasn't intending to come, but then you
know, you I guess we have to check the agenda. They don't say the agenda. >> It happened on July 15th. I just looked it up right now. It was the July 15th meeting that they brought it up and I don't I'm just reading the minutes real quick. I'm not obviously they capture word for word what they discussed, >> but it doesn't seem to they have a r
they don't discuss rationale as to why. They just say that they initially proposed it for seven and then it was amended to be for 7:30. So you know I want to take a look at the video and just see if there was participation >> after the that that rules uh after
>> general call after the rules were updated >> because this happened in January. Sorry. >> There's a committee that doesn't meet today. >> Sorry, >> there was a committee that didn't. We had we had the ad hoc committee today for the anniversary but that's a
temporary committee that's not going to >> but they usually set up all the committees in one day back to back to back to back. So we the leaison are usually here what twice a week right with the committees. >> No they don't meet like two days a week. Um this one meets the third Wednesday of every month. Special needs is the first
Wednesday. Uh veterans have meet before us. >> There was before us. It was youth. >> Maybe there was one. I think they might have moved it to Thursday. I'm not sure that that might >> youth test committees. It doesn't have to be all on Wednesdays or Tuesdays.
Yeah, it depends on find this. >> So again, at the end of the day, right, it's government. um we're the volunteers, but we're the ones that now have to follow on these rules that they've
uh I guess just enforced on us. Um and look, it is what it is. Like I said, I have no problem in writing the letter um with regards to the process, right? on this process because I don't want our
committee to be and I know you you you're very passionate about all these things and I'd like you for sure and and I mean we work hard. I mean they they were very happy with all the projects that we're doing. So right >> I don't think they want to eliminate our committee or anything like that. It's
just that you know is it's the process and and we need to be diplomatic about it. You know it's you know we don't we don't want to be confrontational. That's those words. >> Okay. I believe I found the July the agenda. Um the memo from the mayor. So
the recommendation was I move to amend the committee rules so that no meeting shall commence later than 700 p.m. It has come to my attention that at least one committee has been starting meetings at 8:30 p.m. I believe that such late meetings discourage volunteer participation and is also an improper way of treating town staff that are
responsible to act as committee leaison. Additionally, I also move to amend the committee rules so that committee committees that have not met in at least two months must meet on the third month if at least the vice chair of the committee is available to chair the
meeting. So that was what the memo was originally and that was amended later on. >> Definitely. >> So it sounds like you were targeted. Definitely >> because I mean we how many meetings have we have
>> and we meet we haven't met since August >> if anything that was so this was July >> this was July >> last day in the rules it says how many meetings to come minimum
>> uh what do you mean like once a month once a month they got to be once a month but >> but you say one one uh >> Felicia with all the due respect if that was the case >> that at a minimum at a minimum somebody
would have picked up the phone okay and made a phone call that didn't happen >> or you show up to our meeting and talk to us >> or show up to a meetings and say hey guys >> this is an issue >> what's going on here
>> that was in July so that was happening from before the July Right. So, um Helen had to step out. Um she had to log out. She was actually um doing something and then was gracious enough
to join our 7:30 meeting. Okay. Um so, let me know please because I I I don't want to honestly I don't want to waste my time. Okay. And if you guys feel like, hey, this was just it was done
incorrectly. It was not done right, then then yes, I'll put the letter um I'll put the letter together and we'll circulate it uh here at this meeting. I'm not going to send it to anybody. Um we'll go through the process of giving
it to the right person and um and we'll review it and we'll approve it and you'll put your name and signature on it. It's the only way because other than that, then it's going to seem like, oh, it's the chair, right? And and again, if you guys don't
feel that way, I'm okay with that. It is what it is. The day that I can no longer make it to these meetings effectively, then I will make a decision. So, >> do we need to make a motion or
>> No, I mean, just you tell me. I'm I'm I'm >> cuz we'll make a motion once we get >> I do I do agree with you that the way the process was done to us was in [clears throat] the face. >> We we obviously we were the only meeting that meets at 8:30. So I do believe that
the letter has merit as far as us meeting at 7:30. I mean for me it doesn't really matter but I know that some of us can't make it at at that time. So again to me what's more important is for the whole committee to meet not just one person. >> Right. Well, the same >> and I and I haven't seen I don't know we
haven't gotten much more interest in new members. >> We did bring up that at the uh chair's meeting that to try to appoint some more people to our >> No, no, I understand that. But if you read, you know, based on what she read from the memo. >> Yeah. >> You know, saying that people weren't weren't participating because of the time.
>> I'm going to email you all the second one that was from August, the second reading, which was approved then in September. Okay. Which has the background, the recommendation, all the all that language. which I'm not going to read it out loud for time reasons, but I'll email that to you all so you have >> Yeah,
>> they it claimed to prove a negative in that memo by saying that late start times discouraged participation basically that because we're not seeing people that >> well where where is wait where are those
facts? >> That's what I'm saying that you can't prove it. >> No, of course not 100 challenge him and I'll challenge anybody. >> Yeah. Where is the study done? >> Right? Where does it say that? Oh, here's an email. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't participate in this email. Does it meet
at 8:30? I would love to see where is that information. >> Probably not. >> Yeah, >> probably not. >> Unless someone is actually. >> So, I'm going to call you out, Felicia. Are you okay in the letter and you writing your name and signing the
letter? >> No, I I I get that part, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about if the letter you approve it, you write your name and sign off on it, not just a signature on the bottom of the letter that says, you know, Rudy ODO on
behalf of the neighborhood improvement committee. Because again, if I don't have your vote, okay, to put your name on that letter, then I'm not wasting my time and I'm I'm I'm speaking very candidate because at the end of the day, I'm one
person here. Let's not forget that, right? We all have a part in this committee. Okay. So, >> that mean when I commit, I commit. And >> I know >> tell everybody the first part of commit committee is committee. You cannot
commit. Don't join a committee. >> And and I've been working on I mean I I'm I'm exhausted. I'm working on on a bunch of projects for the town and you know I'm just a volunteer. I mean it's a full-time job. >> Oh, we all are. We all are. We are volunteers.
>> You know, I I know they were, you know, I I I agree with you that they should have, you know, communicated to us uh um you know, properly. Um you know, whether you're the chair and you're supposed to be the the person contacting them,
>> whoever they could have called me, right? They could have called me. They could have said, >> the members, I mean, you're the the person that represent us, right? So, uh, I don't know what to tell you. I I don't I don't want any confrontation with I
mean I >> Well, let me ask a question for this. Confrontation or which way? What are we scared of? >> It's just, you know, me. >> Well, this is not about problems. So, you're saying right now that that there
was an incorrect process and and what in your opinion you feel like, oh, it is what it is. Let's just turn our fans and move on. Right. So, that's what I'm saying. But what are you saying? Because I want to know because if not, I'm I'm speaking very we've known each other for over 10 years. If not, I'm not going to waste
and and hold on. And by the way, I'm not trying to in any shape, way, or forming anybody at all. But understand what this council did because it was voted. It wasn't one person. And it's either we're words United and
each of us name is on that letter with a signature or the truth is I'm not going to waste my time. And if I can make it at 7:30, great. If I can't then I'll know what to do. >> I agree that the process would not was done properly.
>> And that's that's what I'm discussing here. Like >> so I think I think Rudy's question is so I mean we we they they can make or break our community whichever way they want and isn't the rules. I know that. I don't think
>> I I think what what Rudy's asking at this point is he just I think he wants to pull the entire you know the our members and find out whether or not if he were to write up a letter that is general in decision just would we be interested obviously subject to final approval would we be willing to that's
what his question was >> as as the newest member here I would not want something like this to happen again so even if this letter serves the purpose of showing hey we're we're here let at least give us a courtesy heads up.
Not saying that we're going to sway a vote, but I would I again as the the newbie wouldn't want something like this to happen again in the future. It could be anything. Um so that's why I agree pending the content of the letter. Uh I
would yeah I would be in support of it. Rudy, let's be honest, there's c certain issues that they bring to us and then they decide to take it away from us when they want to. the wraps on the uh traffic lights, things like that. Even when we had to pick the the drawings, they already picked it for us. So again,
I feel that you should write the letter. Yes. Because the process that they did, but we we need to make a point of hey, as much as it were committee, we work for you, you need to let us know, you know, what's going on, too. I mean, I get it was passed through through the
council, but the proper way like before whenever they want to bring something to us, That's quite a good point. >> They sent someone they even if it just affects sometimes it doesn't even affect us and they still break >> right >> you know so I do believe that that could have handled a lot better they could
have informed us it got done how it got done got first reading second reading the council you're right not all of us go to the council meeting not all of us in the past things are gone to the council and it comes to the committees beforehand even for discussion even a memo hey we're letting you know this so
I do agree with figing that part >> well like like like what Frank says specially that it affects us directly. We're b what message are we sending right? We're the volunteers. We're the one putting in our time but then you can come in and make such decisions. >> Why let us vote on a time and then just snatch it away from us. So I agree. So I
think you should draw a letter. I think if from a raise of hands everybody's fine draws a letter back to to revision and then if if it's fine we sign. >> Yeah. No to to agree to to sign the letter when I see the content. I was
going to say this. >> I haven't I'm not telling you that. >> I'm just telling you that if you don't give me your word that your proof No, no. That if if you approve the content that your signature, right, it's depending on that content, then that
then I'm not going to waste my time. If we don't have 100% of this committee members, I'm not. >> All he's saying is like if you're saying that, you know, it doesn't matter what the letter says, you're not going to sign it. He's just not gonna he's not gonna he's >> That's fine. If you have to see the
content, if you agree with the content, all he just wants to know is whether or not we're agreeing to concept. We don't have everybody. >> I think >> right. Yeah. >> That's all it is. >> Drop the letter. Bring it to us for next meeting and then we'll go from there. >> Okay.
>> We added 8 C by the way. Great. Must be part of the culinary bike. >> Bye. Um again um I was u notified by staff that they first I said they had no real budget for this event. They were asking me for it. Now we have a budget
because it's in the new fiscal year. So they decided to have the culinary bike on February 28, 2026. and they they want the NIC which is I mean we we were the ones who originated this um NIC culture
affairs and economic development to um to start you know working on this uh one thing that I requested from staff is you know because in the memo I don't know if you guys received it um I can tell you
that I mean at least I received it um that um you start contacting restaurants which are within the right. They already have the map ready. we haven't even you know looked at it as a committee which is our committee um is um to start you
know contacting people and I said but I mean we're not supposed to wear our shirts if it's not for an event or a meeting and I don't have business cards so how do I approach I need some restaurant people but if I show up to a place they say I'm from this committee
do you want to participate on this >> if I may Felicia I did contact Clarisel and I about this because I've also been trying to work on it. This was on the 17th. I hope all is good. Thank you for taking initiative and being worked on the calling a bike tour. I truly appreciate the time you put into it.
Please excuse our delay in response. Our department has been fully dedicated to the uh major upcoming events including the mayor's gall, the town's 25th anniversary celebration and the reindeer run that requires our complete attention. Please allow us a couple of days as we close the mayor's gall and
work on the finishing touches of the town's 25th anniversary. So I asked them for the same thing. We have people that are interested. What's the next process? So they've they're busy with the other events and that's the last response we got for them. >> So and February 28th is a set date as
our date. >> Yes, a set date for the February 28th. >> I can't do this. We we have our major gala. So >> that's the date we have. >> Our cabala is that we have >> we have to uh again they said it and I said no
>> we can discuss it. I said, "Look, you you picked it." Why did they pick that date? I mean, we should have been the ones picking the date. >> No, no, no. But you know what? But now from I don't know what to tell you. You know, it's it's even at 7:30. Uh, but now they want us
to wait. They pick day for us. But then, >> you know, yeah, I don't know what to tell you, Felicia. I'm I'm I'm busy that day weekend, too. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Maybe they can get people to show up at 7:30 that they can help them in
knocking on the doors of the restaurants and getting, you know, people to participate >> since they're >> so involved in changing things. >> No, the mayor is already the So, we have up the
>> No, they still have the reindeer and the 25th. Yeah, because there's enough that I noticed that and that's the reason >> knowing what to do with what because that's another thing. >> Uh one of the comments at the quarterly
uh meeting was that the events are not being promoted and you know I'm doing it on my own. >> The events are not being approved of me. >> Whose event is this? the the any event whose event is the culinary background >> which started with
>> and then we joined the the colony they took it away from us because >> it's not participation >> I thought it was because some other people wanted >> no yeah that had nothing to do with it >> wasn't lack of participation I that was that was they pulled in some other group wanted to have it under
>> what it was right >> started doing that was when we were strong with right right >> like every bike ride every So, what's the request here? >> I don't know. What is a request? >> The request for >> I think it's for us to go knocking on uh restaurants.
>> Start. That's it. But I need something in writing. >> We can't we can't start because we don't have any packages. We don't have any weight for them to >> No business cards to give the people. We can't wear the shirts at NIC. >> It's not our event.
>> It is. The NIC now it's back to us. >> Oh, now it's back. >> Yeah. Now they give it back to us. >> We have $750. What is that? >> Yeah. No, >> I don't think they're going to tap into our budget. >> The the way we do the bike tour
and that's the way they literally tiny bites. >> Yeah. >> This only for the beautifification contest. >> Have no more back bites. >> I was about to If we don't have any more I get. Can we utilize social media to put out now maybe every other week that
there won't be any more? You know, I hate the bike rides. I'm sorry again. I love the bike rides. I'm good. I'm the sharpest. >> I'm not the brightest knife in the tree. I don't know if I could figure out better things to do with the money. I don't like the bike rides. But being
a bike ride police officer cost us 1,200 bucks. Oh, we should be letting the town know in advance this year that there's not going to be any because our budget >> Oh, they know that >> our budget is 7. >> Oh, they know that. >> They do. >> Of course they do. >> Oh, the title.
>> This is This is ridiculous. I'm >> No, they're not going to do that. They're not going to set a communication saying, "Hey, by the way, we're cutting budgets and we're on Facebook." >> I heard about the bike ride just you did. I didn't know anything about it either. So, I didn't know we have a date
yet. didn't know that. So, I can get you in more information. >> Yeah, there's people that are interested. I just don't know how to >> So, so far we have a date. >> When I emailed uh >> I got a date invited the next bike ride. I said, I have no idea. Let me reach
staff and the staff said, "No, we have no money." >> So, they scratched our December bike ride. >> Yes. >> They scratched all of our bike. >> There's no bike ride. >> There's We have 750 bucks and 300. >> We can pay for a police officer to follow us around for an hour. Oh, no. >> No. >> You need one of the one back in one of
the middle. >> No, we just call 3054 police, right? >> You know, it's funny. >> Uh, good question. Um, I know that we have until 10 p.m., right? Housekeeping, that was the time that was given to us.
uh 10 p.m. We needed to be out of here by no later than 10 p.m. >> at 8:30. Right. Right. An hour and a half is usually allocated. >> Right. But there's nothing on the rules that says how long we got to be here. >> Um >> that's what I was saying with my motion. >> I mean my I have an hour.
>> No. I'm just saying was that >> right. But what I'm saying is was there was there something in the rules you guys I'm sorry just thinking. Was there anything in the rules? Uh, we'll review that information to see if there's anything that caps it off. Um, that that says the meeting for an hour, >> right? The meetings have to be only for
an hour. I would love to see that rule. >> Yeah, maybe they can change that and make meetings only now an hour. I would love to see how other meetings are. >> But don't tell us we can take >> Saturday. >> That's right. We can take breaks. By the
way, um, Isabella, >> yeah, >> I I I think I don't have to say this, but you do understand it's nothing personal against you. >> Great. She's great. >> Okay. I >> I just want to make sure we we we get that out there. We clean the airways. That has nothing to do with
>> nothing to do with everything's good. >> Everything first. So, I'm kind of used to getting the run from the committee and then, >> right, >> it's I'm don't worry. >> No hard feeling. >> Don't trust me. I I I know I know the role. I do it every day. >> Yeah. >> So, all right. Cool. I'm sorry, guys. So, back to the back. All right. So, let
me have any information. I think it's very important though that something >> What? When is that email? When was that email? >> 17th >> of this month. >> Okay. So, that's great. Um, that's recent information because what I don't
want to happen is it ready is we're not going to provide any information because we don't know. and then they're going to come back and say, "Well, we sent it out to the NIC, but we never heard anything back." >> So, we took it away from that.
>> I I presented this to the cultural affairs and I I again I I asked the staff to No, we don't have any information yet. >> But the date, that's it, >> right? >> But the thing is, my bigger question is, okay, they set a date, but who's going
to fund police for it? >> Well, we don't have the money. That's not us. No, the town has >> the gas fee, I guess, when they pay for the bike. >> So for the culinary No, no, no. Our
bikers are done. >> No, I know that. But they're giving this >> because this raises money for >> Yes. Yes. They different. >> I don't know. They're going to charge them. That's another thing. We don't know. >> We don't know the price either. >> And how many committees are involved? Three.
>> Three. Uh NIC, which I think is was the original started NC uh cultural affairs CAC and the economic >> so there's four correct >> no three >> three oh I'm sorry I miss economic >> economic >> culture and culture yeah okay
>> awesome >> the three of us we need to go >> so whenever we have information that we can uh >> we just need information what ourselves what do we need to do >> how do we confirm that that they're going to participate >> they well how how can well it's how can we support >> because once
they got to they got to lock it in. >> We have to back up for a second though. We have three different committees that are working on this. We need to know who's going to be doing what because you don't want >> Well, three of us have the same exact be like, "Hey, how disorganized are these things?" year ago. We started >> Yeah. Subcommittee
>> years ago and we're all all the the people there is we were the committees and then we had >> Mario remember we had the chair that committee that >> a subcommittee >> a sub it was like a subcommittee >> every committee uh that that was
participating. We met, we decided, you know, bring us a list and uh who are you going to reach out to when get organized? >> I I completely understand that. What I'm saying is that that that level of organization isn't even there before we can even get letters to be able to go
out to people. Is there any way that we can form to have the three committee representatives there? >> Do you have any information? >> I'm going to bet you what I can, >> but I if it's done in the past, it can be done again. So let's see if we can get uh for next month or subcommittee
December we have two months to do this start time 8:30 it's not a committee there's >> no comment on my end [laughter] call but yeah yeah that would that would lock us in to get everybody on the same page >> right right okay three committees
together okay let's see if we can something out >> all right get more information and I will get more information. >> Once I have it, I'll share it with you guys or share it with me so that I can
right >> with poor Isabella. She's out there and left me alone. She doesn't even know either. >> So anyways, uh okay, >> she's there to catch all of my balls. >> Well, what I meant by that was that it has to go through me to everyone else. Don't be we got it.
>> All right. Any announcements? >> Yes. Goldman is in the second round of the playoffs for the first time in 21 years. >> Nice. Football. We'll be playing uh uh Spanish uh lake in Bokeh. So 7:00 on
Friday if you guys want to come see some football. Other than that, >> what park? >> It's in Bokeh. >> It's a high school called Spanish. >> What park? >> It's in Bokeh. >> That park. >> Thank you for that. >> 50 minutes away if you want to make a weekend out of [clears throat]
>> All right. Awesome. Any other announcements? >> Yes. Announcements? >> Yes, Felicia. >> Oh, sorry. One more. And don't for the uh don't forget the uh >> the what? The meeting. Yes. Yes. >> Festival lights on Saturdays. >> Got it. >> Bring a toy. Bring a toy for >> Does it start at 7:30? >> I think they
>> No, it's from 3:30 to 7 some. >> Oh, okay. So, they're going to stop in at 7. So, because they want to make sure, >> you know. Got it. Got it. >> People are late. >> People are late, right? Or they want to make sure people. >> Okay. So, there is room.
Wait, when? When? Saturday. >> For what? The 22nd. >> Yes. >> This weekend. >> This. >> They always do the I think the weekend before Thanksgiving, right? >> All right. Anything else, Felicia? >> Felicia, we got Felicia. They're going
to cop us off and now they're going to give us a fine. Now they're going to tell us that that we can't bring people here because we're gonna be too long. >> 3:30. So, I I'll I'll forward you the flyer. And the last but not least is uh I don't know when our next meeting is gonna be but we're having
>> I'll tell you when the next meeting >> anniversary um celebration is on December 6 at 4:00 from 4 to 8 at the Veterans Park. Please come >> 8:00. >> 4 to 8. >> Oh wait where at 8:00 we're going to
>> immediately they changed that rule that event >> are being serious. Uh the the celebration is going to be Saturday uh December 6 from 400 pm to 8:00 p.m.
and try to be there a little bit uh before 4 because we're going to have a nice intro with the Scotty. >> Staff going to be there? >> Hope so. >> And they're gonna if staff to 8 o'clock at night on Saturday. Yeah. Wow.
Wow. That's very That's That's very disappointing that they're going to keep staff here on a Saturday until 8:00 at night when they should be with their families. Wow. Yep. Not good. on a weekend. Wow. Okay.
>> Well, because the the official date is December 5th, but it's a Friday night. I know why I didn't go for that event on a Friday night >> because have to start after 7:30. >> Okay. All right. Awesome. Anything else, Felicia? Thank you. We appreciate it. >> Like I said,
>> and by the way, our next meeting is December 17. >> That's if we have a quorum. Yep. Because it's a holiday, Christmas, >> December 3rd, December 17th.
>> That's a Saturday. That's >> speaking. >> December 17th is is Wednesday. >> I know. >> December 17th. [laughter] >> That's somebody's birthday. >> Oh, look at that. >> Not my birthday, but >> No. All right, guys. >> All right. So, thank you so much. If
there's no other announcement, I will motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:54. I'll >> second. 8:54 p.m. For the record, we left out of here before 900 p.m. [clears throat] >> Who second that? Mario second that.
>> You guys want to discuss it or no? >> Yeah.