Okay. We're going to call the order at 701. Is there chair blanco here? President vice chair Martinez here. Secretary Coen. Member or member Rubio here at this
time. Eladio Danielle and Franchia but Francesca's running late. The order of business. I'd like to make some deletions if I may. short. Um, the March 24th, 2020 meetings were approved April 28th.
So, I'd like to delete the item. Right. The Miami Lakes podcast was discussed April 28th. I'd like to delete it. The lobbying efforts were discussed April 28. I'd like to delete it. And the town of Miami Lakes Council update, I'd like to It was discussed in 28. I'd like to
delete it. The House Bill 303, Senate Bill 486. It was discussed April 28th. I'd like to delete it. Um, and then this is the aisle, the hallways. I'd like to clarify that the next VA on
open discussion and SBA meeting is June 23rd. Oh, sure. Um, let me double check. Right. Double check. Double check cuz we're just making all the corrections because I think that changes. No, you guys have stayed on the We have
Yeah, we have. But I think July fourth Monday of every fourth Monday, right? We only change it if there's like So June 23rd is the fourth Monday in June. And July 28th is the fourth Monday in
July. As you know, we always like to write out date. So is that okay? Those are the deletions and changes I'd like to make. Is there a motion? I make a motion to add delete and change. Is
there a second? Second. Second. Roll call. All in favor? I [Music] I are there any public comments at this time? This whole packet is Yeah, it's probably a little It's more than what
you need, but maybe so you can keep it. Um it won't it won't get changed again. Um that's basically like the final version. Okay. So there's no uh public comments. I move to adoption on minutes. April. Well, just for the record, uh, Council Member Hersburg. Oh, I have Hey, Stephen.
Hi, Council Member Hosber. Behind me. No, no, no worries. Hi, guys. Uh, no, I really don't have much to say right now. I just This is the easiest way for me to log into the meetings. Um, but two general things. Uh one, I believe the
town will be setting up soon hopefully uh a workshop on Robert rules for committee members. I I hope everyone can try to attend. I think it's really important that these committees uh run efficiently, effectively and and with the rules or rules help make that
happen. Uh and then second, obviously we have the new committee rules in place now. I think uh I think they're good. This would allow committees to also operate uh under better structure. If anyone has any questions about those committee rules, reach out to me, reach
out to other council members. We're all uh pretty in sync on on what the rules say. And the same thing with with Robert rules. Obviously, we use it uh in our meetings and uh they it certainly helps us uh allow the meetings to happen in an orderly fashion. And then, you know, on
the blasting side, I'll be looking for your guys' input pretty soon. Uh, we're trucking along. Uh, you know, obviously with um different alternatives and and trying to get some change and and those things will happen soon and you guys will be a big part of setting that
setting that narrative and and educating and continuing to to get the word out. So, I appreciate it. Thank you, council member. Thank you guys. Thank you. Move to adoption of minutes April 28, 2025th. You should have them in your packet. Yeah.
Is there a motion to approve? Yeah. Second. Yep. All in favor? Thank you. Second four.
Um all business. Um if it's okay and we move to item D6D until we give time for um Francesa to come. Edwin is um is that okay with you? Yeah. Okay. It's your
game. Okay. Well, good evening. Um today I bring to you the updated uh monthly blasting report. Uh if you see there is like uh three four different packets. One of them is for every year and then one of them has um all the years just
for you guys to look at. I thought it was important to separate it only because if you look at the last page of every packet should be the last page or uh the last page of the report where the report ends and the calendar starts
there's a PPV comparison table. um it looks like this um is a PPV comparison table and I thought that was the most important one that to highlight in these meetings because even though we don't know really um exact like tons that
they're using or if the PPV is actually correct or if the blast actually happened at that time. Um all those like issues are a little bit like uh up to them to let us know. So I'm not going to really dig in too much into that. What I
did notice is that the PPV for every year, the average PPV for the blast that we did not uh have any complaints about was about like between 7 to 10 PBVS um in every year like uh in 2025 you see
2016 on the left hand side that the 2016 where blast without claims that means there was blast with no claims 90 blast uh and then it was recorded at the average of 16 PPVS versus the blast that
did have claims that reported at 23 and an average. So even though we cannot say oh hey the PPV uh is is a great indicator or not um we can say that the PPVs at a lower amounts are actually not triggering the people's claims. So if
for any reason somebody says hey why so if anybody ever says hey why is it that you guys are recommending a decrease of 0.1 or10 well it could be because of this it could be because uh we're not complaining when it's 10 below the
average is 10 below so whatever the ppb is maybe we could recommend for it to be less um that this is just like their proof like this is probably what they're looking at u because this is all the mining companies are submitting their their data to this website to the state. So, whatever it is they're submitting,
it could be right, it could be wrong. We really don't know. Uh, but we do know that their data they're submitting, they're also looking at it. So, they're going to question whatever we say. Um, so in my head, I'm thinking um that there is valid data in here that will let us know that uh some PPVS are
impacting us and some PPVs aren't. So, in the next report, what I what I'll want to do is I would like to zone into the blast that are not having any claims, like no claims whatsoever, and identify what is it in there that they're giving us that we can use. Like
the only thing that I can think of is like amount of detonation, like the pounds of of detonation they have, but even then, it doesn't it's not really like a point of reference where we can like fight over. Um but we can say that you know there are complaints that we
have uh and there are some blasts that don't have complaints. You know I would like to focus on the blast that don't have complaints and I think there are some uh in the 2025 version you do see SDI and Florida Rock that their blast had no complaints whatsoever so far in
2025. So it might that to me that's like a humongous uh that's something that I have to review because it's almost impossible that every year every every uh mining company White Rock Titan SDI
rocks they all have allocated complaints to their blasting but for some reason in 2025 SDI and F rock don't I don't know who they are or like how they're doing or anything but I thought that was pretty that's pretty impressive. Um I'm
going to go ahead and like review those numbers more. Um but I think that that's something that uh they're giving to us and uh we have to capitalize on that. Uh the other thing that I saw is that if we look at uh the most recent
one, the main one, the first one that I sent you on the second page or any of them really on the second page, it's this one. Yeah, it'll be in Yeah, it'll be on that on the second page. Here's this graph. And this is the most important graph I think that you can
see. U this graph right here tells you what is the first time that the person made a claim. So last week we had a a lady that came in that was saying that she was submitting claims in 1990,
right? Since the beginning. And I do see one here from 1923. So, somebody in the last three years has been complaining in to the website and that same address has been recorded since 1923. So, there's people out there that are really feeling this for a long time
and they're still doing their part. How do I use this? I use this by year. In 2025, there was only 88 new addresses being uh placed as complaints. That means that there's less new
complaints every year. So they can use that against us too. They can go into the count into into the state and be like, "We have less complaints. We have less new addresses. The claims are going down. The blasts are going up. Our PPV
is is is in line." So all those indicators are only telling us that they're doing a great job. Wow. So to me, that's what I see. I see that they're doing a great job. their PBV is they're trying to see how much they can
push the complaints and their blast as much as possible and they're being really good at it. The only thing that I don't see is our complaints going up. So that's what indicates to me that the problem's getting better.
Uh I don't know if anybody else has anything to say about that, but uh in Miami Lakes for example, you go into Miami Lakes. Yeah. And maybe there's a lot of coffees, but I wanted you guys to to see it um only
has one. Yeah. really one new address, which means like that house didn't place a claim at all ever until this year. That's probably me. And they're very uh fidgety with their
numbers because like if you pay attention to the report I submitted last week or last month, the the distinct addresses was a little higher and now it's a little less because when I looked at the column, they put like USA at the end or they don't put USA at the end. So there's little things in there that they
also put that I have to look over. So this is like more in the lines of like this is uh the data being looked at basically the way it comes. Um I have to put more time to look at the data like try to break it down and see like what issues they're having. Another thing I I
noticed over the last month was that their time uh I updated the time. If you see the time uh it's a little different. there's more hours here only because the same thing they whenever they put in their time of of complaints or time of explosions they add like zeros at the
end and those zeros throw off systems uh because they have to recalculate. So I've been like updating it little by little as I can. Um but I think this is uh this chart here tells you the the bigger story um of our new uh planes
being placed. Uh so far this year there's only been 88 new addresses being placed as complaints. So in the future like uh I would hope that at the end of the year uh this number grows at least because we're only at one. Question is PSN considered over high on this chart.
Uh yes a good question. I don't know. I would have to segreate PSN addresses because I go by the the city. No, I go by the city that they tell me. The state is looking at the grid coordinate of the complaint and based on that grid coordinate, they'll they're assigning a
city. Got it. So, you'll see you'll see Miami in different places. But if you look at the if you look at the points in the map, it helps you to better understand where that page is talking about.
Yeah, we've seen a lot of this to uh to give you some lucidity of what you're looking at based on on my u research and and interactions in in the
past. Um one, first of all, I want to correct you and I actually sent you a message on on um because I saw you created an Instagram page on this. This isn't a claim. This is a complaint. Yeah, I I put it I put it a claim
because it's it's not really a claim to go to your insurance company, which actually I heard you can like I was looking online and I heard people that they were fighting with their insurance companies to get their house fixed, right? So like I mean it could be like it's a claim of an impact. I guess
that's why it's not a claim by any means. This is a complaint. No, it's not an insurance claim, right? By definition, you write claim. Yeah. And you even put it on your on your Instagram page about his lawsuit. Absolutely not. No, it's looking there lawsuit. But look on your Instagram
page. You did that. Miguel, when he does an Instagram page, does he reference the blasting committee? Because he should not. I don't do his own. I'm only asking you. It's his own doing, but but the verbiage in it, the vocabulary is incorrect and it's very misleading. Very
significant to what we're doing. What's the what's the that's a good that's a good observation because in my head I don't think that um I should be introducing anything to namates lasting committee unless it's approved by you guys. Correct. Yeah. That's why I think like if if there's going to be a report
I think it's better for you guys to choose what metric to review from their data right and from there I just create one report just with that. Well that's what we're getting at. So the the first thing is that I said definition of claim
is it's completely wrong. Um so please avoid that and correct it if it's it's beyond significant. What can I use? What can it's a complaint? Um a claim is is a financial
demand. Put it that way. So you can claim against the insurance, you can claim this that. Okay. Um so that being said, the next thing is the years in which you're you're reporting. The reason is is because that's when the pilot program was
created and it facilitated people filing claim complaints to the state. That's why these numbers, you know, shot up. That's where this comes from. Um, what's happening is the the they're they're they're drawing out and tiring out the
public. Um, so everybody, not everybody, many people I've spoken to, so I filed a complaint, nothing happened. Thank you so much. So you filed one complaint, nothing happened. This is it. This shows those results. Um, so that's why the
numbers, they fade out. I agree with you 180% that we need to do something to get these numbers back up because because looking at this, it shows that that the the the issue has gone away. It's going away. Um and obviously we wouldn't be here if it gone
away. The next thing is the complaints I I've found that once it gets below the threshold of 0.15 PPV, the complaints dwindle. So that that it seems like that's the tolerable level um of of a
blast. That's super low compared to their other ones though.16.5. That's like in their in their that's not their average. That's like way below them in the uh that's the average in which the complaints die off. Oh and the complaints. Um and that's why
rep forio had put in what he's trying to get to to bring it down to 0.15 because that's when the only the only matrix we have is when the complaints die off it's at the 0.15 mark to um there are companies that are that are
working that don't even detonate the the u the seismograph the levels are so low it doesn't fire it doesn't engage the the equipment. Obviously, ideally, that would be an ideal situation, but that
that's they're doing something um who knows what in their operations. And they're also blast at a minimum amount like once a month, you know, or once every two weeks, let's say, not three or four times in a day. Um that White Rock and CMX are doing. So, that that's
another um operation that that they're having. So, just to shed some light on it, um I think this is fantastic and I think it it's very awakening in the in the complaints place, but having a diminishing number like this is
detrimental to what we're doing. So, I think we we need to really um revamp your word. Yep. Revamp our our structure and and get people complaining again. Um because the issue hasn't gone away. I think people are just not complaining
because they think that it's okay. Like I think they're like it's probably not as bad as it was before. No, that's what their interpret their interpretation is going to be. But I'm getting it all the time. I mean, if you go I feel it's worse than ever. It hasn't stopped.
No. Okay. It's It's worse than ever. The blast, but people are fed up. Um and and they always look at at a new outlet and the pilot program was the latest outlet. Um, but if they don't see a movement that the people are discouraged
immediately because people want, you know, immediate action like that. I've had numerous times. I filed a complaint, nothing happened. You think one complaint that you did is going to change the world. It's more for your kids. Like I think I think our efforts is more for our kids to benefit.
Um, so that that that is that. The next thing is I've gotten people not filing complaints because they they don't want to bring attention to their property. They have done things without permits. Um and and uh that's a big one. Um so
that's 90% of the Yes. I didn't mention location, but yes, buddy. How about the other scared and and Miami links? Yes. Um Yes. Um and and that that's we get that we get that
comment a lot in the PSN Civic Association meetings. Like I've heard it from residents who say I don't want any attention to my property. Therefore, I rather not complain. Um whether it's justifiable, whether it's makes sense or
not, you know, everyone's entitled to their own offending. So that's right. But the end result is no complaints filed. Right. Right. Or worse. Or worse. Okay. Which I'm going to show you now. So create how do we create a solution if we have to compartmentalize and break it
down? How what structure can we come up with to start putting pressure? Pressure. It's pressure, right? Out of sight, out of mind. What can we do as as a group to start getting people to place complaints again? I we're going to touch
your question when we go over the marketing. We have another presentation. Once we finish here, then we're going to Well, no presentation. Conversation. Okay. also one last thing I forgot to mention.
Yeah. How many? Sorry. Just this one thing that I I probably like the most. Uh it's a calendar. Uh there's at the end of every year um there's a calendar. It's red. In red there's a number of blasts that occurred in that city.
Um, so and that's from their data. So you can specifically see the dates that there were two glass or one blast. Uh, and I think in my head when I see this, I look at the recycling or trash uh, calendar that we have. Like if I know
what time or what day this blast is going to happen, I just won't be home, right? If I know the day and time that the trash is going to come, I'm not going to be outside cutting my grass next to the trash bin. you know, is this like that's that's the way I see this. Uh I don't know if that could happen
because they're like a month behind when they report the blast. Uh and I think they do that strategically so we don't fidget with these numbers cuz there's no nobody calling people or nobody putting dates or false information in there. I understand that. Um but I think if I ever have something like this, a
calendar that tells me the time, I will just go do my burger at that time or something and then I will never feel it. Um but that's a that's a different thing. as a complaint thing. There'll be less complaints if that happens. I want to make sure I'm understanding what you're going over correctly. So, you're saying that
this is the number of complaints that happens on the number of blast number of blasts. The number of blasts that happened on those given days on that city. Not comparing it to the number of claims. No, zero. That is literally just like if someone
were to get this calendar and they okay, hey, I know a calendar is going to happen, right? Another thing you can do that I did for the presentation we did at the workshop in Tallahassee you can look at the amount
of blast individual companies there's five companies first of all so individual companies how many blasts that each one has done and the level at which they blast at and you will find that a majority of the blasts are below in fact
0.15 some companies are way below 0.15 and that's Oh, they blast that which is fantastic. And the two culprits, white rock and CX um 50% of their blasting blasting is below 0.15 which is kind of interesting. It's
the remaining the balance of blast they have and the few because it's not a majority. It's it's a gross minority um blast that they have that are astronomical that obviously those are destructive things that that we can't we can't we can't tolerate. Um but the goal I think 0.15 I
think is a fair number and and it comes from that. Yeah. This 17 here that I have. So 0.15 is right about there is below that. Now to your point will get to that with Franchesca
but I was part of the first committee that u the first blessing committee blessing life when it sunset it I created my own group through that group we had an attorney uh sponsor our own study because exactly what you're
saying what evidence do we have just have conflict to and no study has been done and it's essentially avoided the study because they don't they don't you don't want to know this. Yeah. So we have the information. Um we
are now we have been currently we have been and we are currently monitoring every blast similar to the pilot program. So our results parallel the the pilot program results um completely independent. Um it's done through
universities. Several universities are involved in this. Um and and further it's what what does the energy that that is that is generated the energy wave what what does it do and that's hard science um physical science of
construction um seismic energy uh and um geotechnical engineering and we have all that. That's what's needed to show this can't be tolerated and here's why. So, in the past, I know you you guys weren't privileged to that um to my
presentations. I've actually presented uh findings of ours and people information that they've submitted to me, including video. Um I have one guy, they submitted um the security camera for his front door and the tile blast and you could see the tile popping video
that we showed in the Yeah, I remember seeing that. That's crazy. Um I mean, it's incredible. So there's a lot of evidence that that we have that exists um and even more that I can't present because of um it's attorney client attorney privilege stuff um but it all
exists and we have and are the number compatible the numbers from the p program so what we're finding is the accuracy of our information and understandably It's less accurate than the pilot
program. They run parallel, but it's consistently less accurate. Um, and it's because the equipment that they have that the state has obviously is, my opinion much advanced than than what we use, but we have small devices in in an
in an array around the the mine and throughout the county. So, we're currently monitoring. Um what it serves well is to compare that the blast existed and compared to the the state the state report the state report which
the state report was to compare the the minor report. Right? So now we have a system of checks and balances. The issue is um that the the miners are getting away with is that the state law and accounting law is based on on a boundary
and that boundary is is the UDB boundary, the urban development uh boundary, which is basically Chrome Avenue and and the state law exists that the it mandates within the UDB boundary. Well, guess what? All the mines are outside UDB boundary. The energy wave
isn't stopping, but the mine is outside. So they don't have to comply with the state law. And that that's where we're at. That's what's happening. And that's where we're probably getting I don't know if you saw those big blasts the last week or two. Have you saw those
humongous blasts we've been talking about? Well, I reported to us very well. I said the two time I was with my complaint to Jessica and everybody else and they responded back and then they gave you the the same BS or the same
thing in response to your complaint Mr. Blanco regarding the blast submitted via the mining activities each clearing house. The bureau has conducted the follow-up review with the following results based on Florida statute 552 and the Florida administrative code 6969A
2.024. All activity noted within the specific date. And there was those big blasts and time of this complaint, they're all within the limits of the current adopter rules and regulations. So something's up. Once
somebody's saying one thing, somebody's not saying something else. There's a huge discrepancy because I don't I don't see how they can even think that the glasses weren't normal. They can't be. It was five blasts in one day. It was
Monday. Last Monday was Monday the 16th. The 16th. Yeah. And and I reported every single one of them. Three were small and two were like humongous. And this is what they come up with in the state. Something's wrong. Something's not right. So we either have to investigate
it. We have to go back into it. See what the CFO's office is. We don't have we we don't even have a CFO yet. That's another issue. Well, the the reality is what they're claiming. It might be what you're saying. The only report official report that has to comply with this is
the minor's report. Um, so if the minor reports arbitrary numbers for argument sake, not saying that they do, but for argument sake, they put whatever they want. That's the official report and the state has to comply with that. That's it. And case closed, which that is what the response is coming. That's the
response. So with regards to this, if if the public they get the same answer, the cookie cutter answer, why should I ever say anything? Nothing's happening. Um and and that's what's going on with this. So if we can't prevent, if it's
hard for us to communicate to the residents that they should put a claim, how are we preventing a complaint? Sorry, apologies. I'll make sure I complain. uh how are you projecting new complaints not to have occurred? Like
how are we preventing new complaints not to occur? In that sense, I'm saying I like when I purchased a home, it was nobody told me I had I was going to be forced to possibly, you know, go through 1900 blast to clean the house. So how
rush how do we help newcomers to mulates to see that that should have been disclosed to you? No it is it is disclosed that there is a mining and there's things but it isn't disclosed that there's going to be an impact to your house 1900 times. Yep.
You know that that part is not disclosed that's intentionally ignored. Yeah. this late. It's it's it's ignored, but that side of the issue we won't fix because that's a not this board. This board won't fix that. That's a communication issue within the real estate industry
and that our place here is not that to disclose. Not not to the real estate. I'm not trying to go out to real estate. I'm trying You said when you purchased your home. Yeah. Like if I purchased a home and I wanted to look at the folio information on this website as to when the developer came to get developed.
In that video, he presents himself with the traffic study. He presents himself with zoning information. And in that video, there is no communication saying we have reports that are blast, 1900 blasts in the last three years to
the people that are going to move there. Like in that video, when you present yourself lawyers and with your studies, there is no no communication on the blast. And at least at that point in my head, that should be there. not in the real estate, not in the closing
statement in the city because when I want to like I saw a video the other day, somebody wanted to build a house, right? their personal house and it was a big issue like about coding and zoning and a lot but in my head let's say there's another lot somewhere else that's a developer doing something not a
personal that developer when they present themselves to the city in my head they should say yes we know that there's glass uh we're going to we can't guarantee everything that all the structures going to be built up to code for that blast because it's a lot of blast uh but you know we want to let
everybody know that that's something that's being reviewed something something simple communication from them letting them on video on video especially on video know that hey this is a this is not something that we're uh hiding the county has a regulation um
for a sale from a developer only a developer has to declare that you're in a blast zone and that's an ordinance right but I'm saying in video like uh like they talk a lot they talked a lot about ask because when it first started about your home ownership journey Now we're talking
about something else. What's your ask for the town to do that for the county to do that? No. And this is only the town, right? This is not the county. So in my head it's like the when they present themselves to meet that development at that point that should be
disclosed and open an open discussion. The the developer the developer should show that in the area that they're going to blast that they're uh that there's within the area. And I I think that that should be commented like in the video on
talking because since it's not commented, it's being ignored completely by the by people. The um one I'm good. I'm good. So bad. I think you're you're mingling a few a few a few
points. Um, that's the the video you're talking about is to the public or the video is when when a a developer is presenting to the the council to develop a product. All right. Then it's irrelevant there because the developers
it's on his um it's it's his liability um that he's going to build on a on a blast affected area. Um, and at the county level, it is a county requirement that the developer advise his first
purchaser. It is not a county regulation that a private sale once you own it and you go to the next No, not that one. I'm saying I'm still talking about from a developer. It's a requirement. It's in your closing documents. As far as like if I were to go to the developers and
you have a title company right here, so but I mean I seen a lot of two realtor here and two realtors in here. But but I've seen a lot of videos when they go and present themselves in Halia and here and no one ever mentions blasting. No, you don't want to. But but that's what I'm saying. That is shouldn't that be
the time to show the public that we are working towards blasting? No, it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. Yeah. Okay. The end user is the one that's going to be affected, not the developer. And and if you advise early on, the end user is going to shy away. So the developer is
going to avoid saying anything. They're going to shy away because people are scared. Like people don't want to coexist with the blessing. I I I think like you should be able to be all free with that's coexisting. You should. If we're not, we're not coexisting. Agree. We agree. But you know, got to
figure out how to get there. It's not coming from us. We're here. Yeah. We got to figure it out. That's that's the that's the challenge when when each one of us at least starting from when when I was involved in the board. Um we always
had an opportunity to like meet with the chair and kind of gain the background information of how things like came to be. So that when you actually started getting involved with the committee, it kind of like you already had that little bit of background knowledge, right? So
you see how they communicated to you that the program started 2023, right? So when you're reviewing the data, your perception is led to assume certain facts because you don't know there's a
gap in a in a specific narrative, right? I think it's important because this data is so so valuable and what we're trying to accomplish. I think it's really important for you to gain that background knowledge so that way we can
effectively run these reports because as a consumer I'm talking right now as a resident if I see this I say oh they must have been doing a lot of promotion in 2023 cuz 1432 new residents started
complaining but in 2024 maybe they didn't do that much because only 324 people complained. And in the six months so far in 2025, we only have 88 complaints. So we're on track
to produce half the number of complaints we produced on the year before, right? when instead we should be utilizing this data to encourage more residents to complain to help the people who go in
front of the lobbyists, the legislators, the CFO and Tallahassee and all of that, right? Like this is so so great. We've never had something like this, but we need to use it in a way that it helps um
promote a larger buyin in our community, right? Okay. So, like if I could replicate all of this and put it into marketing material, like this excites me because it's my favorite part um of what we do here. But I really think there
needs to be like um like a meeting of the minds so that we could utilize your gifts in a productive way to increase that awareness, right? Because we can say we think uh elected officials should say publicly
in a video that blasting is happening our in our community. In reality, that's not effective. What the elected official should say is, "Hey, listen. If you're affected by blasting, go on this link. Help us by reporting. Look, in
2023, so many new people helped us that we accomplished XYZ, right? In 2025, we want more people to report so we can accomplish our new goals for the year. So data is is important and it's big on
perception. If you don't have the full picture, there's a lot of assumptions that come in to fill the narrative. And as the person who focuses on the communication of the board, this is very dangerous. It can be utilized as an
amazing resource to engage and promote just like it can be utilized to illustrate a deficiency of the productivity of our board. You get what I'm saying? So we just have to I feel like on its own almost like a
subcommittee so that we could prepare better then we extract it and then we utilize the information to improve what I want to um propose we do for marketing. Um, so it's almost like
if we perfect this, this could be a huge um ammunition for our engagement campaign lead, right? The the other thing um what you get and um piggyback on what you're saying using distinct
addresses, it's the same people and and that tells me that you're ignoring you're only taking one claim for that address and ignoring the other claims. No, it's all it's all all the complaints are are there. Yeah, that's just does
that square just that. Um, but the the distinct address I think is is is uh dangerous because of that. Yeah, it's it can only help us in reality because if you put your address incorrectly, it'll always show up as a
new address, right? No, no, I'm talking about in the distinct address. this one person like I know somebody that puts a complaint in daily and it's the same address so she'll have 1300 complaints but if you go by distinct address it's one you know so which what numbers do we
use um and and that's why I think is we we need to be careful cautious on the distinct address part the other thing is as I mentioned people are afraid to raise awareness to their own property for whatever reason they really don't know they should be interested in our campaign how we we're going touch on
that. How do we make it more appealing for them? I guess that's what Oh, the data. No, how do we make it more appealing to complain to the consumer? So, to the consumer, I guess, are we done
with the training? Then we move into right there. So, during our last meeting, we discussed raising awareness. This has been an ongoing topic in our last few meetings. So, at the end of our last
meeting, I sent I an email requesting that the marketing department kind of like take a look at what we discussed and see how they can be of assistance to us in building an awareness campaign utilizing the Miami Lakes Connect app to
promote people filing complaints. They produced this reel. I'll stop talking in a second so you guys can watch it. They produced this real. They posted on social media and they redirected people to go on the clearing house link to file I'm sorry, not on the clearing house link. They engaged for people to
download the the Miami Lakes connect app and file complaints on the connect app. That is a great way to to engage with the audience of Miami Lakes residents. a PSN resident is not going to see that reel and automatically assume that they
can utilize it because we don't live in Miami, right? So, we have to tailor our message based on our specific audiences. Um, so I I'll let you play it again so that they can actually focus on it and read it.
So, the ability to to uh start a complaint was already on the app. It's just nobody knew about it. So, the marketing department went ahead and and did that for us. Nice. Um during our last meeting we mentioned
let's put together ideas for an engagement campaign and all of that to increase awareness right um your data if if it has shown us anything it's it's shown us that right that awareness is not people are not engaged as much as they should they should be filing more
complaints right so I was thinking that we can come together and we can do a multiaceted campaign to promote only and exclusively the filing of complaints. I don't want to talk about levels. I don't want to talk about who does it right, who does it wrong. I don't want to talk
about any mining company. I just want to talk about you are a resident. If you are affected by blasting, click on this link and file a complaint. If you're from Miami Lakes, we will almost aid in the current Miami Lakes Connect campaign because they want people to use the app
anyway. and filing a complaint is just one of the components of utilizing the app. Now, if you're outside of the Miami Lakes people, then we need to kind of like touch on the subject separately using the clearing house link. Um, at
the end of the day, you all meet to the same place and we will eventually get more complaints to better aid us in this situation. There needs to be some type of metric of when the campaign starts versus like pre- campaign versus post
campaign because this number is not very flattering the 88 complaints in all of 2025. So eventually once we update this we need to be able to have a delineation right of when it started. Then the
campaign would have several facets. So obviously social media because it's free being one of them. But on social media, it's very important that we consolidate to one place. So prior to you joining the committee, we had made the decision that one person would take it on their
personal side because that's something we do on a personal level. Okay? We manage the Instagram page, but we only share information that has been vetted by the board to ensure that the information is clear, consistent, and that we're portraying the right message
to the public because even though we're doing it as residents, we're not doing it as members of this committee. We want to make sure we're educating correctly and transferring that information, right? So, I know that you started this new Instagram page, which is totally
fine. You could do whatever you want in your personal life. just make sure that the information is extracted from what we have already to ensure that the message is consistent, you know. So, obviously there would be a social media component to the campaign. In the past,
we've talked about meeting with several HOAs and conducting awareness within HOAs. This was initiated at a point in time when the committee decreased in size substantially and because the committee was so small at the time it was not
executed. Now that we have more members and we can reach a larger platform, I think we should re-evaluate that and we should start um promoting the message uh in HOA meetings as well as we've always done with the PS and civic association.
And so when we reach out to the HOA communities, we can do it and offer an electronic version through like QR code or a presentation that will be updated because the old one is too outdated. But we can also produce flyers that incorporate data like this to engage
people in eventually creating the complaint. Right? So I know that in the past we've promoted a lot. We've promoted join the VAB. Uh this is what the VAB does. This is what we've accomplished. Get involved. Let's just boil it all down to
the simple file a complaint. And if we can get more people to buy into filing a complaint, everything else will eventually fall into place. At least that's my personal opinion. Um, and that's my recommendation. The just to let you know to the chair, Stephen,
Brian and I have visited HOAs and we have spread the news. Okay. So, it's not a new concept. It's been done before just not with the hope lasting group. It's a focus, right? I have also several associations. Yeah. Okay. So I know that
in the past this has been done right um through one way or another through council members through members of this committee like we've gone to the PSN civic association meetings numerous times you know so these are these are all things that we've done my objective right now is basically saying let's do
it in a way that we can hold us all accountable because that number that 88 it needs to increase back to a set goal that we say every month it needs to go up by 20 people. I don't know. I just made this up, right? A number that we
all feel is attainable, challenging, but it can be consistent because if we continue on this trend, by the time we reach the end of the year, the number will be zero and in 2026, we will have zero. Not because we're not doing anything here, but because if we don't
have the buy in of the community to report, what what do we some something worth mentioning just again to give benefit for you guys to be aware of? Actually, if Francesca weren't here then, um the the Miami Day pilot program, if you look at their budget, in
their budget, there's nothing for marketing. There's nothing to get the word out. So, of the complaints that of that entire website, it's doing it. It's what we have done to get the word out because the state has done zero and they're doing that intentionally. They
do not want they do not want to have any attention brought to that website. Even if you go to the financial aid or the the financial officers page, you won't find a link to to this page. It's crazy. It's done intentionally. I like our link. I think our link's link is better
than their I know. It's perfect because if they want to change their link, we just put in the same thing. Nothing changes. But but this is what we're up against, though. Now, the state has allocated $3 million of our tax dollars for this for this program. And you've
done nothing to promote it, to move it, to to encourage people to do it. Another issue, but you know, now we are not going to we're not going to get into we're not going to get into that at the moment. Follow the money. Um yeah.
So um I think you know and I'm I'm mentioning this again for your advantage to understand why these numbers are the way they are. The other thing is in in uh when things started it was during when co hit people home. So that's the other thing that many people have gone
back to work, right? So they don't they don't feel that's the first thing that during the day you know many people work anymore. I didn't think of that. But I always tell everybody if you felt it, so did your house. It's that simple.
And if your house felt it, how did how did your house react? Because I can, you know, invite me to your house. I'll show you how your house is reacting. You were gonna say something. Sorry. Next item.
So I mentioned while the I mentioned I I see that we want to move on. So before we wrap up, I mentioned all the components of what could be done to increase awareness. How could we all participate unanimously to produce that? Obviously,
I have to um I think we should get um commitments from each of us. Who are you going to speak to? I thought you were going to do a subcommittee because that was a good idea. Oh, so we can do a subcommittee meeting that
encompasses the per the the data analysis, right? And it's supplemented by marketing, but we cannot have a subcommittee meeting that's in charge of marketing. exclusively the the promotion of the message itself is still something that
we need to do as a team in general. So I like your idea of like everybody kind of owning their little piece just so for example do you have anything that we can distribute now if I go to an HOA meeting tomorrow is there something I can distribute?
Absolutely. There is materials on the on the can be utilized. Yeah, but it's got to be printed, right? But we just got to ask out to print it. It's there. Now, am I going to make an improved version of it once I have data? Absolutely. That is
coming. So, then I think we just have to wait until that product comes out so we know what we can use. No, not necessarily. Okay. Well, um, if you have something, I can pick up a stack of 25. Sure. because I have an HA meeting I'm
going to I mean I speak about it all the time but you know now I can give a paper right give the and I'm going to tell you what a lot of people are going to say they're not filing they're not filing I'm the person who doesn't file that simple lot of people won't
file the complaining yeah my age how did you fix your house that's not that's not so Hold on. Half is better than milk. It has to be more than the keyword code because a lot of people are not savvy. That's another What about having milk?
What about is it can we do that? If we had a call list, let's just say that we built up a call list for example in PSN. We have every we have most of the people cell phone numbers. We built a relationship with these people and we have somebody assigned to be paying attention to the blast. Every time a
blast comes, send out a message. Hey, did you feel the blast that just happened right now? If you did, here's the link. Like, be texting them. Be like, hey, follow the, you know, file a complaint. Not, hey, it was a blast. I need you to file a complaint. At least I know the association got it from
me. We can do something that help, but you know, at least, you know, cuz maybe you're at work and maybe you didn't feel it. And what about if the guy's like, "Well, you know what? There was a blast. said, "Damn, I'm in PSN. I'm going to follow on Twain." That's a great idea, right? You know, and I think that helps
the the connecting helps very, it's very easy. It's very easy. The other relationship like how I do events and I bring in my sponsors to do stuff. if we were to get a sponsor, give you an idea, like a a roofing company that
wants to get his name out to the community and he would uh like to help people that have been their roofs have been damaged because of the blasting and because he's involved with the border. He's helping Donald Laser. He's he's not a part of the advisory board, but he
wants to donate money to our board so that that money can be used to do community outreach for the blasting. Can we do something? Yeah, we can take contributions, commercial contributions. Correct. Um, so yes, we are allowed to get sponsorships. All scholarships have to
be vetted by the town per committee rules and sponsorship ordinance given that you guys are I feel like kind of a complicated committee in terms of what you guys deal with. Um, we definitely need staff input and you know, make sure that gets cleared. But it's a possibility. Yeah. I mean, all the other
committees do it. I guess you would just have to kind of give me an idea of what this sponsorship would entail and where exactly we would be doing. It has to be associated to an event. The the other committees that have done it have done it in correlation with an
event. So I would imagine that we'd have to say, you know, we're throwing XYZ event, then we recruit sponsors and then the community would come out to this given event. I wouldn't be general that's on every flyer that we do because
then I don't think that's proper went to an event. Yeah, I would agree with that. Just thinking just throwing some ideas out there. No, that's what we need. Keep it coming. All right. Is get the liquor out or something. Why can't we have an
awareness campaign in the farmers market and get a sponsorship to sponsor the Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. like somebody bring food events at the pharmacy. You want to do things at the same time. You know, you know how people
are, man. People aren't, you know what I'm saying? Like unfortunately, as a society we live in. So, you got to they want you want croetas. You want to come have a food truck. You want a bumpy where you can bring your kid and it's not like you're taking time out of your day and and then you can kill two birds
with one stone. It's like, I'm going to bring you out so you can have a good time with your family, but at the same time, you're going to pay attention to what I have to say. PSN has started their they got every Friday. Hey, I was already going to bring it up. We need We need to be all over. It's every
Friday now. It used to be Wednesdays and then they moved it to We should be all over that event. Why not have a tent? I mean, I think we should have a tent there. So, I had asked the original time that they came out. I'd asked the person who organizes it, like what would have
to be done to have a specific um spot and they're very picky in the types of people who can have a designated tent and they weren't allowing any businesses that weren't food related. But maybe we
can approach them again. Where is this? It's in the PSM park. You know, the Miami Lakes. It's not like that. Would they let us come in as would they let us they let us come in as the PSN civics association? I mean maybe we
we team up. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just throwing it out there. Whatever makes it easy. No, I like that idea. Um I mean look, it'll definitely cater to that component of the audience because we need to segregate. Miami Lakes will be targeted one way and outside of Miami Lakes will be targeted a different way.
But when we come together, it'll It'll all make sense. So yeah, that's what Yeah, I think that's a great idea. And the other one that the senator is now uh involved in this thing. Um so I think we can go to his office even as well.
If you guys instruct me, I'm down I'm down to do whatever I got to do. Party. I'm not I'm not afraid of as long as it's always I'll I'll bring my drums and everything. You guys Oh, wait a second now.
Okay. Next agenda. So her next agenda, what's got sent out the point was that I almost wanted to like I think the [Music]
list of what are we looking at? So we could get zip codes like what zip codes like you take care of 018 you take care of 3315 because everybody is spread out we're
all spread out if anything we should take care of our home zone right at a minimum start because the largest zone is the unincorporated area there's three of us I'm not sure what is this but I'm not including him right now there's three of us in in the unincorporated
area. I'll give it to dad. There's Yeah, he'll do it all. And that there's, you know, a few guys that all are in different areas of Miami Lakes, you know. Um, but it doesn't include higher guardians. But I want to be clear, the town specifically said that if they move
forward with any action, it's going to be for Miami Lakes. Correct. Okay. Interesting. We're not talking about actions though. We're talking about numbers of complaints. If anything, the buying of the unincorporated area is only helping Miami Lakes prove their point. If they don't pay taxes in Miami Lakes, your
taxes are super cheap. That means they're not going to fit the bill. The Miami Lakers are okay. And that's my pain and I won't get into it because I know you come from PSN, you know, my my and I still volunteer on this board and I sit here and I gladly do what I do to
help my community. That's okay. So, are are you guys going to compensate me for my time and my energy? Well, nobody's talking about that right now. We're talking about your choice. Absolutely. Because I want to help the cause and it's going to be for Miami
Lakers. That's why I That's what I wanted to bring up to the to the record. That's what Facebook, not it's a it's a number. It's not numbers. Did you see that? No, I didn't know what you're calling me. Put it vertical like this. Yeah. Not upside
down though. I don't know. I don't use Androids. Yeah. But you see he's got sponsors there. Well, he doesn't want to go here. Yeah. So, if we get uh the BAB on there
get the BAB on here. How? the civic association and the BAB. What are they going to contribute? Money. We get a tent. Yeah, if we have a tent. Sure. There's money associated to this. I mean, we'll do the research. Let's see. Absolutely. I'm all for it. I
mean, how much kind of cost? No, I don't. The trucks were like 70 bucks. Is what they food truck was paying about $70. 70 to 140 bucks. That's much It's not even about the dollar amount. It's
about the board can't pay for it. So, we would have to get a sponsor to pay for it, which is totally fine. That's something that we can work on. But first, let's do the research on how we could even We have money. We have a budget and and there's some budget in there for budget
regardless if the budget doesn't reach. Are they going to utilize it though? No, but don't worry about the money. If the if if the budget is not there to cover for it, I'll we'll take care of it. No, our budget has money, but we go back Oh, same thing. What's allowed? I mean, if last time requested from council, that's
all you would do. It would be a new It's not that much. So, even if it's 500, let's say it's 500 bucks, right? I can still get something at park if that's not in Miami. You see what I'm saying? It goes in
fairness, this committee is is aside that we're not we're not Miami Lakers. Um, but this committee is to affected areas. It's it's part of the uh but there you all I'm trying to point out is that there's a discrepancy in what we're
communicating right now. Correct. So I get it. Miami Lake support is for the Miami Lakes residents. It makes total sense. We are discussing an event at PSM Park. So can Miami Lakes money be utilized for an event in PSM Park?
Based on what Esther just said, I'm assuming the answer is no. But I think that that's something that the town should give us confirmation on so that we don't pursue something that's, you know, beating a dead horse and not. It's something you guys should take to house,
right? Um the hope was asking we open up public comments. You can sure is there a motion to open public comments? I'll put a motion. Is there a second? Second. No second. Uh, for the record, the public comments that are on
Zoom are not to be reopened once they've already been. I'm just letting you guys know because this has been discussed with staff before and I know I hadn't made it clear for you guys. So, I'm going to I never heard that. It was clear at the other meeting. I wasn't sure if I had
the same way you told us about the attendance policy that are in effect. So, as of everybody understands the new attendance policy, she's been sending stuff. So, make sure you read your um I make a motion to adjourn. It's 8:05.
You guys want just hope so? Are we completed first of all? Yes, we I think we need to ask everybody else, Esther. Oh, we're on open discussion. We're open discussion still. Would you like to share anything else? Anything else?
I came in I came today with the idea just that I wanted to almost be assigned a job on the board, right? like just I I I kind of like where this went today. So I just wanted to say that I I feel like if everybody has a a specific thing to do, I think we can get a lot more like I
still feel like I don't know where I can PSI association event and I'll handle the farmers. Okay. So no, just wanted to say this was a good one today because I feel like we we got things assigned so we can get the ball moving. The uh to get to that position it it's not Yeah, it evolves
into it. Got it. All right. Um I'm good th this this committee and again for for for you guys is aware um it's different than all the other ones period. Um and and it we have a lot of moving parts and a lot of different facets that other
committees they have a they have a single goal um or a single task let's say and it's very linear. We're not like that. Yeah, we have a lot. This is Yes, this is huge. And and one of the components of it is we're not just Miami Lakes. We have the, you know, one of the
facets of this, we're coming from everywhere. I'm going to incorporate day county. I'm north of PSN. So, um I mean it it there's a lot of moving parts. So the evolution of of the committee um has to do a lot with what you're mentioning
though as somebody comes up with an idea and we all share it and we discuss it and improve it and make a better idea and make it happen. Yeah. Um Hope Hope Reynolds the one that texted me now she had come up to the idea to me about having a bike ride because every every
morning she has a little exercise route that she does on her trike exercise. She says, "What about if you did a bike ride and and look at witness damages, you know, out in the street?" And we did. We had Fabricio, Sabra Fabricio join us and we rode from
uh from the park down into Sator. We circle Sator. And I gave a lesson of of how this energy wave traves in what we're seeing, including water bodies and the differences and whatnot and the effects that it does from, you know, people that sidewalk that was damaged. No, that's a tree root. Look at the oak
tree that's right next to it. Now look at the damage of the house that's behind it. See that? The crack that seismic damage and be it was an educational tour. Um but I but but the thought the idea came from somebody that just out in left field threw it out there and I
think it's a great idea. So coming up with stuff like that as you're mentioning, you know, we we need to get there and then we can assign the task. You know, how do we divide the work? I think that today like Danny's saying is a good day where tasks can be divvied up because there's a lot that has been
discussed today. So like Danny, if you take charge of communicating with us with the civic association and then and the PS right and then Edwin has worked tirelessly on all this data. But then
who's going to partner with him to adopt it correctly so that I could utilize it for for the future marketing material? Not you because I think it should be you. I guess it should be my being and
told you're the most knowledgeable one. Okay, I'm gonna assign um Edwin and um there you go. Right. And we also talked about budget, whether or not the money can be utilized and what it could
be utilized for and whether or not we could move it. who wants to take it upon themselves to talk to the committee slash the council council. Well, we need to come up with a budget number to see. Okay. I'm going to I'm going to find I'll find I I should
I'm going to tomorrow I'm actually going to go my wife and I were going to go with the kids to the to the food truck thing. So, I I'll find out if Sina is there. He's like a a representative that's starting right like a like he's running. Yeah. So, I his info is there.
So, I'll get it tomorrow. I'll reach out to them and I'll start asking around the food truck vendors that are there how much did it cost them to be a part of it so I can try to get more than a dollar a month our budget has a lot of money more than a dollar a month it's can we
utilize it for this specific type of XYZ whether it be because we've discussed the farmers market and then we've discussed the PSM part so the question that needs to be proposed is it can we utilize a portion of our money for these specific types of events Because as long
as we don't exceed the amount of money that we have budgeted in total, I would imagine that doesn't matter where it falls, right? Well, you can use the money for the farmers market. That I know for sure. That's well specifically because our we'll mention the farmers market in
Miami Le obviously a partnership with them and they tend to when it's committees that want to put up a table, they they just let us do it for free. Nice. So there is no money involved with that. Okay. Normally so far from what I've seen um the reason you're going to council is because the money that has been granted to you guys was originally
for your Tahasi trips and then recently for your marketing it's yours. So therefore, it's never been disproved to council that this was that money was going towards this new app, right? And once you guys get that approval, you don't have to go back unless they say it's a one time, which that's normally
not how it goes. But yeah, for the first time, you know, they have to Okay. I mean, the reality is what we're talking about doesn't exist in Miami Lakes. So, um, but the farmers market, I think, is is a sweet uh avenue to to explore. No
idea. Especially if they give it to us for free. Oh yeah, they do. They give you the tent and then you just have to bring whatever it is you got to bring. They have the table already to make you guys wear it. The farmers market from my understanding. I think they're going to be doing renovations in
Main Street. So they are going to be closing for some time soon. I don't know the exact date when they kind of are closing up for a while. Um, and secondly, I will mention that oh that council will normally encourage the committees to kind of
collaborate on events that are already existing maybe within another committee and I think it kind of goes back to your point that you kind of need to bring it out where people are already there because it probably won't do well as a standalone information. So if you guys want to start talking to other
committees that's probably a good idea to get the word out there. who actually have a chair here. We get about 9,000 people. So that's a good You want to read that? Veterans Park. Oh, I we go to that all the time. So
that's one that my band almost got hired to play that one. Weren't available. Huh? What? I have a band play of the hard and we were going to play tonight. So ground. Rudy, aren't you in
You guys have any events coming up? Okay. We might have res in the forest. They have events like in Charleston. It's a drinking event than a networking event. I'm there.
So, [Music] That's when we have bring this back. Does any Does anyone else have homework assignments that they've self assigned or that they're volunteering for or
Well, I've been volunte my neighborhood. the PSN I'm on the PSN um they got a chat group between the board members I'm in that so I don't know if if you want me to handle that or handle it together or whatever I I don't have the in like but I I I would call
them I mean I met a few of them the last time I went to the last meeting but if you want to reach out to them and they'll take care of the thing of the park and I'll call you tomorrow park yeah yeah the park thing is oh the budget conversation super easy to right now and maybe we can look for other events that are happening and all these
affected areas, right? Like we can look for uh we can look for like an idea of gardens. We can look for like a they've been doing some crazy events at the new remember the dog race the the highly tracking that's a whole other
level there. That's my thing. That's what I be able to get us in front of the conversation. Thank you, Rudy. Thank you guys. Have a great day. Thank you.
Yeah, he made a motion to the second. Wow. This has to stop. Well, because we're not done. We're not done discussing and you can't take over meetings like this. He wanted to leave then he he can leave but the meeting is
continuing cuz we're not completed our conversation the chair to return and now he's I'm just letting you know the chair is supposed to also bring in the um the u you know but now this was put in where
it's probably so we were having a discussion you were asking for something that we need motion to do I was giving some suggestion something that the board wanted to do. I was just we were in discussion. I wasn't even aware that this conversation
side table. He we didn't hear it on I'm sitting next to him. I didn't hear. Yeah, but he said something. I don't know what he said something about I have to leave. I make a motion to adjourn. Maybe he has something. I don't know. This has to stop. part of the
partn we're history right but are you talking about the budget that we can now because I know he has to give the budget too but if we have the committee as a whole is supposed to review the budget that is going to go in front of just for clarification it's supposed to go in
front of council the email that I sent to all of you is in preparation for the new fiscal year that starts October 1st right but he has to submit that and he has to remember to submit money book marketing and now to submit money for well that's the thing you guys are supposed to discuss that so you can you
know maybe there's another remember he does the agenda and not have it but I know we have to do the marketing money and we have to do this campaign awareness money and it's I know it's going to be within the 7500 but at least if we establish the line items now
we don't have to worry about going back and we need 600 99. This way we have the budget in place and it's done. Agreed. I'm gonna But we can