Hi guys. Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Evening. >> Sharing. >> Are you hearing? Are you there? in chair. What do you do? >> You should be chair. >> I can hear you guys loud and clear. >> Okay. So, we'll call this meeting to
order at 7:43. Um I guess I'll do roll. Felicia >> here. >> Frank >> present. >> Ellen not here. Javi >> present. >> As not here. Juan >> here. >> Rudy
>> Congress. and Mario >> present. >> Since absent, we will be taking notes. I >> mean, I'll volunteer, but I might need some coaching. >> We only need the motion. So, >> you want to take I can take
>> I mean, yeah, if you want them done correctly. >> We'll move on on to order of business. Order of business, deferrals, additional deletions. See none public comments. Do we have any public
comments? >> None. Approval of minutes. Please take a look at last meeting minutes. make a motion. >> I second. >> All in favor?
>> I >> moving on. Town staff updates. >> Yeah. So, I have a couple or just more reminders than anything. a report to council for the NIC's next week on Tuesday, April 21st at 6:30 p.m. Um,
there's also the committee chair meeting. I don't know if you can attend, Rudy. If not, Mario, if you're available to step in, that will be Wednesday, April 22nd at 6 PM. Um, also, I sent you all an email about a special call meeting on proposed town committee
budgets for Thursday, June 4th. Uh I will read out that email that way it's on the record. Uh that one it will be at 6:30 p.m. and uh yeah council chambers. >> So um this will be something for the May
agenda. Um let me Okay. Um so for that meeting um all town committees will present their proposed budgets for the next fiscal year so that 2026 2027 fiscal
year to the town council including dates for each proposed event estimated attendance at each event from the prior year cost of each event to the resident/public and number of sponsorship dollars collected for each event from the prior year. So town council will then approve each event and
committee budget for the funds for the next fiscal year. So this is on June 4th from 6:30 to 8:30. Yeah. >> And Oh yeah. Okay. >> Yes. 6:30 to 1. >> 8:30. >> Um for the NIC, does the uh coloring
bike tour fall under us or is that a town event? >> That would be a town event because that was like volunteers from different communities. >> Okay. So that Yeah, we don't have to report on that one. >> Right. Right. Um, and then the last uh kind of announcement I have is that Aiden Perry Wingering, as you can see
from the community budget, uh, you all spent the 1,829 and originally were all approved for $5,996. So that leaves you $4,16628 for more life rings if the community
decides to um, go that route. And those funds will be available until the next fiscal year and that ends September 30th or you will lose those funds. >> Only life brings only for life. >> Only for life brings because that's what you guys um went to council for for that money. >> Oh, that's
>> if you want to change it then you go >> right which you go next week. >> Let me question as to that is can we get a map of where all the life links were placed and >> yes you all should have received a link from me. It's on our channel website. You have all those locations.
>> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> I've seen around people have been commenting about >> there's kind of around town >> present. >> Yeah. >> So that would be up to the committee. Um >> how much is left? >> It's 4,000 >> 416628. >> There you go. >> We should discuss that.
>> So if you want to add that to the >> agenda, we have the motion >> next week. >> Right. Right. Right. If you want to use those funds for something different, correct? As long as within that then it doesn't we don't there's not really emotion or anything. >> Yeah. But we if we don't use it for the
Adam period we could be using it for self. >> Is there another >> we would have to ask if we want to move it now >> but is there another opportunity between >> next week is we could we could take already is there another opportunity to
report to council? Yeah, you go twice a year, but since um you can wait till let me see the next time you're going to actually >> But we can always request to do it at any >> Yeah, we could just trade with somebody else. >> Yeah, you can go before Exactly. You trade because usually it's two committee meetings, but to give you an idea of
your next date. >> Well, these are these are our standard just report to council. But if we needed to say, hey, look, we we have something coming up. We want to move it. We just go to have it placed on. >> The next time we go is October. So that would be the next school year. asked for, but we can always set up another
one. >> So, something to keep on your radar. Um, if there's another potential initiative that you rather those funds go, you just need council approval because those funds were approved specifically for the AMP 5 initiative. >> Thank you.
>> Yep. Moving on to old business ways to beautify under the palmetto. >> A holding pattern until council hears the report next week and they ask for
either further guidance or give me um a directive to pursue research or more estimates as to how much it will cost. So, I seen that they finished the uh the new lane underneath >> the barrier or whatever.
>> Yeah, the barrier. So, are we going to add something, you know, some color to that barrier in our project or are we just going to be >> No, I I focus specifically on the abovements, but I guess we can amend it to include the barrier if um >> something.
>> I think it'd be more work because I don't know. I guess there is electrical service there already. So it would just be more of a coming up with a >> a design >> a design but that would be >> the contractor >> uh moving on to lake awareness and how to protect our waterways.
>> Okay. Um we we started I mean I think this ties into the further friendly fertilizer initiative. uh the I think that I can you can buy it or not because awareness is basically
the pollution and this is I I know they the town is is has these cards I don't know if people read them but the idea is and it's something that I've noticed when when we uh go to the town website
is you have to fund for things so the idea will be to and I mentioned this before is to have like a banner that you could put information there that can change and go because otherwise you have to look for the committee and what
they're doing and it's it's it's so on that on that item I have a bunch of information that I can share and and maybe have like a little I think they have even a little video I think it's in public works again it's
it's all over the the website um so we can we can create something that is more user friendly that people can vote because if people don't find it they don't they're not going to do any um and again it's I think it's time we
took 7 I think we were going to do the the fertilizer ordinance and they're not going to do it anymore they're going to do the the initiative which is basically those things and but I think that the idea of making people aware
of the importance of not polluting on our lakes is has to be more visual more I would say more aggressive because if we don't have the ordinance we cannot enforce anything but they don't want to do the ordinance reason
>> do we know how any of the other municipalities >> yeah we and the thing is that they want to use the Bay County ordinance which Bay County doesn't have as many lakes and places and I present it to um
Susanna was in the planning board and and I sent them a a lot of different ordinances from different municipalities around the state that do have lakes. So >> you said day county doesn't have as many lakes as we do. No >> in all of Dave County. Although although
I found out when we met with Omar from public works and Susanna that some some lakes are owned by Photoshop portion of the legs are owned by the county. So it's we have to find out which works and I think there's a
database that you can look into and and get all that information but it's it's doing the research and and again county owns that part of the lake then yeah we can use the ordinance other than that you know
>> I know that uh legal council ranking on a perspective of of you know ordinances and all this um what how far can you push this on like let's say uh lawn companies for them not
to the fertilizer the extra >> just how how How how is can we even enforce this on a legal way or >> well there's a county ordinance in place then you you defer to that then they can you the county you know our code compliance can enforce county regulations
>> the extent that we haven't had that are any more restrictive than the county >> it's that was the whole idea >> well there's a few lakes at least in ours where property owners own a certain amount up until into the
Yeah. >> So, I don't want that. >> Again, >> I don't know the regulations over on the county level, but generally it is is that there still have the responsibility even if you're an eight, if you're working for a property owner to the extent that you have even within that lake, you still can't,
>> right? I know this is just enforcement >> because what it's going to come down to is okay there's >> if they find contaminants in the lake unless they see someone actively doing it identify that you were the sole cause of it >> you know you could have they could be you know this lawn care company could be
with 10 different uh homeowners that is doing something that's along a lake who are the >> go it's hard to pinpoint it home >> the key is if we're going to that they carry witness. We need to have someone
to enforce it because otherwise >> that's tough. >> Yeah. Having an ordinance that's not enforces there's no point. >> Well, it's tough to enforce it. That's what I'm getting at. How do we monitor it? >> How do we get to the end of this problem? But we can't enforce it then. They just got to continue. So,
>> is is public awareness is is advocacy? again having the those banners on when you open the town website have something in the same way that >> but I think that that public awareness is more towards the lawn companies in in
this town that >> most of everybody has an office >> thing that I learned from u someone that said what happens sometimes is is the loan companies come and cut the grass but if that grab that by it is I don't
know if it's it's the But they have to clean the blades because if you cut the grass from toway and then you come >> to to to your house and that grass is infected with some kind of disease, you are spreading the disease throughout,
you know, the community. So it's it's I don't know how well this will work and I don't want to get too into the needs, but if if you want the public awareness, you have to emphasize the usability of the lakes. um not most of the lakes and minor lakes aren't connected included with canals to the ocean. So even though
that's a that's a very viable thing to preserve the effects of the fertilizer, but if you're targeting like my family, a lot of families on my lakes are in the lake constantly on the on the >> Yes.
um there's awareness around what fertilizer, you know, that runoff has on your usability of the lake, then maybe that's a bigger call to action that um the wider picture. Not that it's it's better or worse, but I get where you're
coming from. I just don't know how how >> where you live in >> like Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does. >> That's something that we can >> Yeah. It's just like I'm trying to get how do we I don't I see less I've been here a lot
less than you guys, but I I grew up on my lake 36. I was in that lake at 2 years old and the people that I've been swimming in it have it's gone down since I've been here >> and I I've had friends on other lakes and we used to ride bikes to and we go swimming.
>> It all goes down. Um people need to know like we had our two years ago our water treatment study our water was cleaner than what's coming out of the tab in my city capital and if people knew that I I feel like they'd be
using them more but it I I think the effort here is tied to people's usability reflex right in their backyard literally. >> Yeah. Um, again, I don't want to knock the whole green thing. I know ocean the whole connection, but for public awareness, I think it's mine lakes,
getting a lake. Um, it's a halfbaked idea. >> No, I just um has like brochures whether people read them or not. And that's something that we could, you know, again, if people are so computer
not savvy but they always look into the computer to find things is we can have our own you know something something for people to read not little handouts but people don't I mean I just on the ground I don't think >> so what are we trying to do increase
awareness or increase compliance and you know advocacy >> both so what if we do like you know they have neighborhood crime watches where we do like you know with lake um monitoring groups or volunters who are >> well the HOA is are responsible to keep their legs clean.
>> Yeah, but remember not all the lakes >> that not all lakes like I think does not have an HOA since >> No, but Patricia has there they're a special taxing district. So that's how they run off again. >> But I mean you also don't know what the guy across the lake is putting down just
from watching them. I mean it'd be hard I assumed >> whistleblower >> to know what >> well you see the effects of it you know when when it prevails you'll see it in the summer you get a lot of the algae bloom and all this extra stuff because the best with the fertilizer it breeds
half the time >> um you know because mine's just like yours you know we're in the town houses it so we don't obviously don't have the yard so we don't have that really fertilizer in the back but ours are now crystal clear you know and thank goodness we have Yeah. >> Right.
>> You have fish in it? >> Oh, yeah. A lot of fish in there. >> Huh? >> No. >> There's a lot of fish in this. Yeah. Good fish. >> You have >> We stocked ours a while ago. A bunch of tilapia and now they're huge. I don't
know if fertilizer has effect on fish but >> I mean the only thing we do get a lot of so we do get a lot of people for the fishing for >> that remember years ago we we u collaborated the NIC and the control
affairs and I brought it up I don't know if I brought it up to this committee or them and they didn't want to do anything with in the committee I said guys you know it's like one has to do with lakes people, you know, the fishing German has
to do with fishing in LA. So, you know, this you know the the same efforts, you know, like we had a table that that I think that year was very good because we had table with information that gave for the kids to
make them aware of, you know, the importance of the legs and the fish >> and it's it was educational. That's the thing. We need to educate the kids. The kids are the ones who tell the parents Nice. That's how it is. >> What if we have like fishing tournaments, rotating lakes, and maybe
you could >> expand awareness. >> The problem is that fishing >> that that lake allow people to >> his leg. You couldn't you couldn't do that in his leg because how do you get
>> Yeah. Even though we get kids, we've had a bunch of kids lately and going in going in behind people's >> properties. Problem is that a liability too because we don't have any kids. >> Definitely think we have to do some kind of a way
>> idea would be again awareness awareness we have to do a good campaign. >> I mean we talk about it we talk about it but we really don't do anything. >> We have to have strategy to do it though. strategy. So, uh, like I said, I've been
searching and I've noticed that, you know, other communities, they have the brochures. We we need to request from the town maybe to to make something more visual. People go to into the town
website to I mean, we're related. You said we need to. Do you see in the in your community that you go there on a lake? Um let's say you had like a contest of prettiest lake or the cleanest lake. You think that
>> well's going to win. So >> I mean I'm just contest. >> I'll just say you think that everybody would get involved or >> No. >> No. You just think it would be one or two people >> because they don't have a title of a lake yet. I I think it has to >> I think for the for the most part the people just you know within our
residences they're expecting the HOA just to make >> take care of it. I pay for it and that's it. >> They don't know the value. >> Yeah. >> Because they're not going to get it because they don't know. >> There's a few of us kids go in. They're always out there and they're swimming in the lake and stuff. >> The water we know records publicly
available like if if they were to see I I know personally because I've had to coach a couple neighbors. um they they don't just they just don't know that it's it's green to go like crocodiles my links it's not really a thing they're not coming from roof all
the way over to here >> so like I feel like an awareness campaign about the usability of the links not just >> the appreciation the beautifification I I feel like that's where it has to start if we're going to do an actual strategy because until you tie the usability of
the lake the enjoyability of it to the the people that are living on it there's no investment Yeah. >> Yeah. I think it's like you said, we just have to develop some type of campaign and how we're going to structure it because well, I think one thing that came out a couple years ago that we had done when we did the when we
passed out the lake survey when we had that whole we had a whole meeting and we talked about the there was the was it FIU Felicia that did that? >> Well, the last inspection done the 2019. So uh and then and then you again you go
to the website look for information and it's is in the public works u >> no no I understand that but what I'm saying that's why I'm looking at the campaign >> in charge of that now is the parks department everything that has green in it is parks department so in your case because it's private I don't know how
how that would be uh >> I thought you did the whole >> Oh but they it was so whoever it was that did it they ended up doing from what I understand every single lake in Yeah, because remember almost every single lake has a portion of it that touches a >> What did they do?
>> So that's good. They they did water testing and they had a good report. What I'm what I'm saying home Felicia is that um I think what would be good is if we re look at getting the town to do that study again and then we can have comparison between what's happened from
2019 to the present >> and because I think that'll drive our campaign first. Oscar and Susanna is that it's expensive. So, one of the suggestions that you made was
like since some of the lakes are owned by the county, maybe they can uh we can allocate well they can allocate money for us to do those inspection. That's the only way that you can do it. In your case with a private uh lake, that's another step. >> Should we pay FIU to do it or did they
do it? >> Yes. >> Oh, I >> I don't remember. There's the first one that we did long time ago and then they did it again but I don't remember >> seems like something they would want to do just for their own research but for free >> the public that we have
>> right the public lakes that we have can we do can we start with those and you know maybe do a campaign and says did you know you know these are the lakes in town that you could use kind of like start that way >> I mean if the 2019 report was good which I think I've seen bit specifics of it I
think we should we could Start start with that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think it's first identifying. How can we identify the >> It's a database. >> It's a database. I can I I think I shared it with you last time, but >> which is public and which is private, which has access, which doesn't,
>> which is known partially by the county, which >> which allows fishing, which doesn't. >> Yeah. >> Well, I I think we just start with the fact that it's trying to figure out which ones are the public ones. >> Correct. >> And then trying to see whether or not, you know, I think we do that. find out which are the public lakes at the next
meeting. Let's review those and then let's target those as to be the first ones that we look >> agree people can join those lakes and you know see what we're talking about. >> Yeah. And then but we start with those to be able to see and then we can try to see what kind of funding we could
potentially get from FIU with maybe even you know >> what or the county FIA whoever it is and just trying to see whether they can fund it and then together with um you know seeing if there's grant opportunities you know so they may already have grant
opportunities for them that they've already funded that they just need product to fill. >> Yeah. Okay. Moving on to green space. on Northwest City St. F. Still waiting for DT to do their study there.
We're on a stance without uh moving on to town lakes historical tour. Um again, we'll have to present it to council and see we'll get some fun. That's something I mean I've been trying to because I remember when we did our
first one there was a I checked with the council member Vincy Hernandez he sent me something but it's not the complete presentation and I don't know if we want to do a new route because that one was you know the story
I mean I don't want to redo the presentation I know I have it some place and trying to go the down some place because they produced the Oh, and I reached out to to Willie Sanchez and he was going to look into something but I
have to reach out to him again. I think that >> if you can when he was Eddie we got to reach out to Eddie too >> and Eddie >> Eddie might have the only thing that we didn't get was the film because there was some kind of >> with the guy but that was a film. I
mean, I'm talking about the drift set and a lot of information. >> What What other new stops do you think we should add to the to the rest toilet? >> Make a list. Don't you think? Because what what the first one did was
basically, you know, famous people like >> Rams, >> dairy farm, famous. >> We could do both. We could do both. We could do Hollywood based space one, the
famous ones and the infamous ones. >> We could do that home, you know, that that that that house, you know, >> $25 million in the attic house, >> which is really in the highde. >> So, I mean, we definitely have to talk to uh JC and Eddie and see how we can
get that going. Um, >> it was back 2019. So, >> and definitely figure out a new list of uh historical spots historic. I like the marker. That's another thing I'm trying to for the 50th anniversary of the
nation for July 4th to get a marker because even the mother's hammock is not even register in the state and it is a historical. >> Which one? the one where >> the hammock that's over on the
>> 154th and 82nd Indian >> 87 cemetery that's what >> yeah you have to get a marker this year >> since we're celebrating the July 4th and it's you know such an important >> has to be pretty prominent to see from
the street since you can't go in it's kind of a gnarly date to pick to put that up >> huh it's an insensitivity >> yeah it is a little t actually, you know. >> Yeah. Legit >> important buildings. Actually, we're
getting a meative commemorative plaque for the building on the corner of uh for the American >> region, >> Bank of America. >> Uhu. that that building we found out it was done by by an architect that did
>> the word log. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The one that did the Miami Marine Stadium. So we're trying to get a flag which is >> Marine Stadium. >> Stand where they should have racing
street. >> It's out of graffiti on it. >> Yeah. >> Now >> yeah it's you know it's going to be you know something that we're working on right now with the cultural affairs, but it is going to be a historic place to
because it's going to have >> black and everything. So, >> what other historic buildings do we have? >> Uh, well, actually they haven't done it, but according something that I heard, the building where the one of the ground was was born, remember the consumable
one, the rock one? >> Yeah. >> They want to move it here. So that would be >> that we've been talking we were talking like >> yes but I don't know if it's gonna happen but that was the bring that would be really historic. >> Where would you move it to?
>> We're going to put it to the hammocks. >> I don't know. >> We're going to put it over there. But I think that's not >> something that's going to move it to >> like >> would that even make the move. >> Remember they they were going to move it. They had a whole plan. >> That's another linebacker that could be
in the about that is >> I want to stay away from the aquarium outfits at this point. Anyway, >> the other day >> of historic sites
>> sounds historic sites. >> Okay, >> we can definitely put um stop at all the cows. How many cows we got now? >> We have the real fake ones. >> No, the fake ones. Fake ones. Have a lot of real ones.
Yeah, the fake ones we added a couple in the last couple of years. >> So, we'll see about that. >> Instead, you know how to make >> we do a cow hunt. Miami Lakes cow hunt. That'll be I'm excited. All right, Felicia. We're going to have uh some
homework with that. So, we're have to get back to everybody on it. All right, moving on to the Florida Friendly Fertilizer Initiative. >> Same thing. Have the ordinance has been uh side and they're not going to have the
as decided that and already told me. >> Have you talked to Jeremy? >> No answer from Jeremy and uh Lorenzo. >> Well, we had a meeting he came out and said, "Look, we had this as a resolution or something. Do you want to make it
into an audience?" I said, "Yes." But after that, well, I got directed not the budget. What were you going to say? >> I don't know. I don't know what happened. I haven't heard anything. Just that he's not going to be there. >> Do we have any
>> I mean I haven't had time to really find out who made the decision which is of course I mean >> send an email to Isabelle and see if we can get some clarification on that and then we'll just move forward >> because that was one of our Yeah.
So they just want to do, you know, >> yeah, >> but definitely talk send something to Sabella and and to Lorenzo and see what uh what the issue with that is or we could get something
a clarification and then moving on to new business HOA meeting. Um, we have to ask council. We, you know, we went to council about this. I think that, uh, um, my perspective on the HO
meetings, one a year, I think, is more than enough. You know, we even we struggle to do one a year and we've got to come up with something that's uh, motivates the HOAs to come. Uh, you're an HOA then. What would
>> I haven't been on the board in goodness sakes. I did my time and I served too. >> I I think they're good to get out there. It's finding out which ones are active, which ones are not because there are a bunch of them that are not active HOAs.
>> But I think having one a year is would be fine. You know what you mean? Just kind of coordinate with everybody, make sure if the information doesn't get to the board members and have them push it out to their members as well, to their homeowners, you're not going to get it to come out. Um, that's kind of the
difficulty and it depends on how active the or the HOA is. I know there's a lot of regulations that are coming out now on HOA. So, look, if you have a legal law update, I know you're going to get a bunch of them to pop out for, >> you know, and there's firms that'll come out and they'll give an update on that
that piece of >> Is there some kind of uh legislation ordinance that has to have the HOAs registered within the town? the town have some >> there was a recent legislation that just came out uh this past year like now in
this spring that's taking effect in January. It's going to have a lot of implications for HOAs. There's even provisions like HOAs are not going to want to really participate because it has provisions that allow make it a little easier to for residents to get rid of HOAs.
Um, yeah, it's more resue for the residents, >> but doesn't have to do with like money or finance. >> Do you know the town has a a list of active um
HOAs? >> Yeah, I sent you all that list. I can find it again. >> Thank you, Isabelle. That's the one that's the most active list that we have. >> Yes. Wow. the one that I sent you before the January. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And then do you know if the town has
anything that requires the HOA to have to come in for something there, >> you know, be registered with the town, certified with the town, get a sticker with the town. >> Uh that I don't know. I can ask around
to see. I'm not sure who would that. My friend is other than that list to to generate another list, >> you know, building department, something that they might have, you know. >> So, what are you exactly looking for the type of list? >> Anything that might help us that make
that list better. >> Make that one. Okay. >> Is that that one's not as accurate as we wish it would be? >> I know that's the one that I got from the office of the clerk and that's the most upto-date one they had. So, >> so >> the best way to figure out who's current
on a board is going to Sun. >> You have the good thing is you have the names of the HOAs. You go to Sunbiz, which is the states department of state's website that has all corporations. Every single HOA is registered and they're required every single year just like any other business
to update with their all of their uh who their board members are. So, you'll have their board members that'll be there. You'll get their address information. You're obviously not going to find phone numbers or emails, but at least you'll be able to verify, hey, look, these people, yes, are still on the board, which one's not. So, you'll know who you need to get more updated information
because for a lot of the HOAs, their board members continue to be the same people over as knows because it's many times hard to get new people to join in and some just don't want to ever give up. >> Good evening, everyone. But the record
show that uh Ruth is uh here at present >> in person. >> Um I apologize u delays with work. So with regards to the HOA the only uh topic and and the reason why I put it on um and I agree with you
Mario we're not going to get anything less than two at this point right that's what the council agreed to last time we went up and try to make our case from three none to zero,
>> right? And um they came back and we were there that day, right, Felicia? >> Yeah. For the report and they came back and they pushed back and said, "Well, you know, we'll give you two. Come back to us after you've uh make an attempt to have those two meetings and then they
can revisit that. So, the only other topic that I can think of um that we can see what happens is uh lake maintenance. um is the one that you know there's a lot of going back and forth. Um we can
have I remember that new owner that I contacted I forgot name now I apologize. Uh she connected me uh with a gentleman that came out on a new way of maintaining the lakes. Um, and you know, we can have him here for the
presentation. And I know we connected her and Jeremy um, because they were also updating the agreements with the special taxing districts um, and their link maintenance. That's the one topic. The last one we had HOA legal updates.
Um, I believe you were there. >> Yeah, that was a while ago. >> Correct. uh >> a topic that's going to bring enough HOAs to make it worth >> when you were just coming in. I was mentioning the thing is that even from that meeting now the new legislation has
passed since then which I'm sure you're very familiar with or becoming familiar with um on a lot of the changes with HOAs and condo associations and so that there might be a an interest in >> another room. Yeah, definitely a room we I mean listen I I I'm sure that'll be to
come out. hobbies, right? There's there's new things coming down the pipeline. The only thing that I know here from the town of Miami Lakes is a lot of them are more conducive to condos, right? And here in Miami Lakes, it's more HOAs than condos. So, but I
mean, >> but these changes were HOA, >> right? Right. Has a great um we can definitely bid them. I think one I don't think we're going to drive enough people in the meeting if we have um you know definitely the legal updates. Um I think
both of them would do good. I I don't think there's any for me honestly I don't know that there's any other topic from the top of my head that I can think of as a committee. We've been back and forth. We've discussed it. We've we've brainstormed it. >> What's going to bring an HOA member or
president to come to that meeting? what what's going to say, hey, I it better go >> if it doesn't and I think Javier mentioned that before uh when you guys were talking about um there was I think it was lake awareness a lot of
these HOAs they have to take care of the stuff on their own. So it really is not town and the town to go out there and we've had these challenges right to go and force these things that we're trying to put in place is very difficult. So, I would say I I would I would make a
motion to have, you know, the legal updates and um lake I mean lake maintenance and lake awareness. Um Felicia, we can have a combination there. What do you think?
>> I was mentioning when the topic came this um yeah we need we need to make it more visible, more easily accessible. You go to the website and it's hard to find information. So we need to get feedback from the SOAS regarding the
lakes because we're just you know recommending things that they may not be interested. So we reach out to them and see regarding your legs what what concerns you what are your concerns how how can we help you which is the
question I ask people when when they come for help was >> so and another one that I will bring uh to this presentation will be some of these um late maintenance companies that we have right have their special you know the specialist come out okay with
you know kind of a QA with the top questions where people ask right do you test the legs you know, that kind of stuff. Um, bring bring those people in addition to the gentleman um that one of our owners recommended that we connect with um and also bring them out, right?
I think it would be great to bring Jeremy and his department uh to this meeting and have them tell us, hey, you know, how are you guys handling and you know, managing these these lakes? >> There's one one of the things when we had that meeting with Oscar um regarding
the lakes is um some lakes like they don't have an HOA. I think there's an option for the town to take over that lake, >> right? But I don't know if it's a a fee they have to pay or I don't know. I
haven't really looked into it. But those are the things that we need to you know make an outline of you know what is the process. >> Well, it's a special tax issue. >> Yeah, >> that's what it is. A very lengthy long process um that I personally went through. I I
think don't quote me on that. It could have taken me two years for sure minimum a year or two. >> But people they want to do it. They need to know the process, >> right? >> How did you do? What about um the vendor for the fishes? You know, the guy that
brings the fish and does that. >> That's part of Yes. Um we we definitely can bring them. We >> That might be something that >> But that through the lake maintenance company. They're the ones that hire >> hire that. Correct. Correct. Well, I believe from what last time I actually participated in the stocking of it was a
company that themselves. They actually bought a truck and I think they go off somewhere, they buy them, >> buy the fish, >> they buy them, they they fill up the truck with and they came in and they found them. >> Yeah. >> So, so I think it's it's the same company that does that. So, definitely a company that does lake maintenance for
the town. Definitely the town of Miami Lakes, right? Um, parks and recreation. I believe that's the department that handles the lake maintenance. Um, bring awareness. if there's any experts um that we want to bring. Felicia, you let us reach out to them. And last but not
least, this um uh the expert that one of the owners recommended that we're going to >> you guys that live on lakes. Is there any kind of uh company that kind of like recreational that you know provides uh canoes or something that that you know
we could invite as well and say, "Hey, enjoy your lake. You know, rent these you know things." >> Try that too. We tried that as well and >> and that was >> the issue with these lakes and there's so many >> out of waring you know
>> so there's so many of them because when we really started digging and I don't honestly I don't even remember did the county own there was a Miami legs that own the legs the lakes right who to really fall under then when we did the
whole uh taxing district um then it came to the So, we did look into bringing companies and we even looked at doing races at one point >> with what? >> Yes. With canoes. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With canoes.
>> Yeah. Some people enjoy the lakes. You know what I mean? >> Enjoy the lake. >> Sure. >> How do we enjoy the lake? How do we get awareness? Not everybody can afford a boat.
>> Exactly. You know, get in the lake. >> I can look into you know, but but the town themselves, they they know exactly they have all the paperwork exactly what it takes to do a special tax. But who has a who does who who needs a special taxition?
>> It's just, you know, like like some some legs. Uh well, you live you live in Lake Patricia for that lake. There was no HOA on that one. So it was like whatever. Uh we need to again make a list of which lake has
an HOA. You know who's they do >> special district or special tax? Not >> all of them. >> Except the lakes except where the residents are except two of them. It was us and Lake Catherine. >> Catherine has an HOA. It's just a private HOA.
>> No. No. Okay. >> Hold on. Did I said that wrong? Which one's the one next to the K3 Hilda? >> There we go. Hilda. >> Sorry. Lake Hilda and Lake Patricia did not have the HO. Actually, let me let me take it back.
They didn't have an official HR, meaning created by the developer. So what they did is they went out, they created a corporation, they call themselves Lake I'm just, you know, throwing a name out there. I don't know
if it's a specific one, so don't quote me. Let's call it Lake Patricia Lake Maintenance HR. And they were just somebody that was collecting money and they had three or four members, but there was nothing official. There was no way, there was no governing documents to
enforce the collection of those funds. That's how I came into the system. boxes around the lake. >> Well, no. They were actually collecting dry lots and wet lots. So, somebody was putting these papers
>> houses from the lake, but our area, which is kind of strange does not have never had an So, we then they told us we were part of Lake Hill. We were like maybe a mile away >> because they were doing the same thing. Lake M. No, because you're probably the same subdivision.
>> Maybe not. If you look in, there's a subdivision for Lake Hilda, right? Same thing there is for Lake Patricia. So, anybody who was in that subdivision was benefiting from that beach in those areas.
>> Of course, it is. >> Yes. So what they were doing is since they had a benefit from that lake the drug lots at least in Lake Patricia and I believe based on your comments they were doing the same thing. They were past these notice but I think they were
paying $25 or $20 the dry lots and the wet lots they were charging 50. >> Okay. Well I think we need to really research it and find out you know. Well, first of all, we need to know who wants to be part of it because I I'm telling you right now, I went through this and
unless somebody knocks in our door and says, "I live behind a lake. We have 120 homes or 70 homes and we don't have an eight," then who maintains that lake? Because as far as my information goes, there was only two lakes, Lake Hilda and
Lake Patricia. Everybody else has either an official HOA or they have what do you call it? What's a league with publicis? >> It's yours. >> Okay. I don't think your league has a we
don't talk about it. >> Okay. We have some proceedings going on right now. >> Got it. >> But it is a Yes. >> Okay. You see that was right. >> Community. >> Yep. >> So yours is Catherine. >> Yes. >> So I And but you guys were doing good
though. >> You guys >> were were >> or are I don't know. So you got because I spoke to some members there of that community >> back 10 years ago whenever this happened. Um and they were struggling a
little bit but then I heard that it got better. >> No it's it's it's been going very well. It's it's it is a matter of going back to the enforcement aspect of it. this um it's it's very much enforcement but
and it's it's teetering in my opinion but the usability viability of the lake and that's at the end of the day ultimately what gets everybody to contribute to I don't say the greater goodness of Batman but honestly we have
the lowest lake maintenance fees in all of Miami lakes and I don't know everyone else's water scores because I'm not a water doctor. I don't know how that works. We have a very clean lake. Um, so we're really running as lean as possible, but if it's not on any sort of
visual enforcement, >> right? >> It's a very old annotated system that we're trying to >> Yeah. We don't we don't call it voluntary. >> Yeah. So, so yes. So, so unless somebody knocks on our door and says, "I want to be part of those that license." And by
the way, to your point, the issue why this happened is because the labor force started declining, >> right? >> And the town couldn't do anything. The county, we all know how that ended. So then we started looking into okay well how and then the h rates really were I mean excuse me the special tax districts
were made for the street lands on these hid like on not h excuse me I think like um what do you call this >> and and neighborhoods like that that you know the streets are private no they're not private so then the special are private private
>> llman is the one that has special district but they don't have anywhere >> okay so some of those that that that's where those special tax districts were created. Um, and even to maintain >> vote, you have I think there's certain percentage of residents within the community have to vote. Yep.
>> Yeah. Because the thing is is that that gets taxed directly >> into your tax >> into your tax and is collected as part of your taxes and the council has control over your budget. >> Yep. >> So, we went through that entire process. >> Yeah. >> That was like a three-step process.
Very, very, very, very lengthy, >> but we got it through. Because my thing was I I'm knocking on doors and people are closing you know doors on my face like I don't use it like >> great thank you for so at that point I'm like that's back to the problem. >> Yeah I'm like you know what so then we
started looking and we found so now there is no way but >> whether you use it or not >> it's going to get clean and it's going to get maintained >> right >> so and the funny thing about it is to get rid of it >> is is the same process >> backwards. >> Yes. So good luck with that. And we're
talking about petitions. Oh, no. No. Until they even let me go there. So, again, Felicia, unless we're having somebody knock at our door that they want this. Uh, the truth is the majority of people don't want it because they don't want government involved in their
lakes, right? So, if somebody comes in, I'll be >> into the lake awareness. Uh, you don't want I mean, I'm not going to phrase it like that, but you don't want the governments to tell you how to use your leg. then use your >> le and keep it clean and safe and
healthy. You know, it's a it's a responsibility. We move to Miami Lakes because we we like the environment of the lakes and having fish and went fishing and swimming and swimming in it. I mean, you see the old pictures of Miami Lakes and this all the kids swimming.
>> We don't see them anymore. >> So, yes. Uh so, >> computer. >> So, then I have a need amiebas. I have a motion on the table. So, I'll motion to make the next HOA meeting uh
with condo and HOA law updates and lake maintenance and lake awareness topics. Is there a second? >> Condo. HA law updates >> updates
>> and link maintenance. >> I want to change up maintenance to usability or something like that. >> Well, you know why I want to call it I'll tell you why I want to call it maintenance because that's what's driving the topic out there now. That's where I want to start with that. Instead
of lake awareness to the >> we tell lake awareness like >> when you call it maintenance >> but maintenance implies you're using it. >> Well, lake maintenance whenever your pool >> when you or correct when you said lake maintenance in this town it's maintaining the lake meaning you know
good conditions you know the algaes uh um are you testing it right? So I just think I mean what other what you call it because I want to drive people into you that's the whole topic of this >> maybe we get ahead of this right and we do the maintenance but we targeted
towards uh the issues that happen in the summer right and then we say we get ahead of that issue so we have the algae problem in summer that come right >> comes to lake awareness >> comes lake awareness >> but that's what I'm saying but if you put lake maintenance right now there's a big issue out there with lake
maintenance from what I've seen and I don't even you know but I'm talking about town with the HOAs. But why is the LED problem a problem? >> I don't say anything about or or why any maintenance problem a problem because of the money or because what
>> I mean the the purpose of the code is to to help the health, safety and welfare of the citizens, >> right? >> To keep you know and that's one issue that >> but if the citizens aren't going in the lake but if the citizens don't care going in the lake then what does it
matter? So I'm just saying >> when there's also >> yeah there the algae blooms is it gets crazy and it smells sure >> but I do do want to just get back just because since I'm taking the notes you started making a motion but you didn't finish your motion.
>> I did. >> So making a motion to make for the next HOA meeting to be on condo HOA law updates and lake maintenance >> and lake awareness >> and lake awareness. And then he had said that he wanted to change maintenance to uh usability.
>> I think awareness >> and make awareness. >> Do you have a date for your motion or just >> they're making awareness to different topics? >> So that's your no they're >> correct. >> All right. And second by
>> I'll second for any additional discussion. >> Any additional discussion? Are we going to pick a date or? >> So just just for the minute. So if you if you don't mind Javier just at this bullet points uh one you know reach out
to the last legal firm that we had >> reach out to >> whatever the the last. >> Yeah Alvarez >> whatever they were. They were very good. Um two >> I'll do them right. Okay. Um the town
staff >> in charge of Right. And three, >> the um tell you the names of the person you have to >> know public works is links. It's just
>> no less it's on the parts of >> they need to move that information from from public works into the uh parks department section of the website because that's what's confusing people.
Does it last? Make a motion for other topic for next week. >> Please. >> Um, >> next week or next next month? pretty good industrials. >> And Rudy, did you ever talk to Paddle the that company that does like rentals
for like paddle boards and all? >> That was that was just with a marina. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm sorry. Really think how many emails we get until you start looking for one that came three days ago.
500 today. my computer. >> Isabelle, do you recall um what is this name of this? >> What? >> She sends like all these emails every other day. >> Hope. >> Hope. >> Yes. >> Just put her in spam.
>> No. >> Take it spam and just see. actually I must say I >> spam because if I want to eat it I open it >> there's a lot of people >> yes but >> so you you would never you would never
>> kayak too good and too late no >> what was the name of the >> I have I of the of the law firm they just said >> it's go I forgot the name of it >> that Gunster right >> no Gunster no >> okay so I think that's the people
is it >> so it's the number that was in our last uh >> yeah it's something >> Miami Marine There have been many attempts to try and >> just try to do something that they take it to a theater or something
>> because my great-grandfather was talking but I I'm very bad at memory so I'm just trying to figure out I don't think so because he shuffling I I don't think I the same but I always I seen pictures
go devast the same >> this is the one that did the I'll reach out to tomorrow. >> Exactly. >> And do you have who you're going to buy for the uh uh lake m the lake maint?
>> Well, right. That's what I'm looking at in the name so we can just write it down so we don't need but definitely add on um the current lake maintenance company >> for Lake Patricia and Lake Hilda. You have you guys have
>> you want it late. >> It's me. No. >> That's why he takes offense whenever there my robo throw in putting things in there that no one knows. That's why he does it late at
night. So that cover. >> So >> yes, most answers your question. In the meantime, are we going to need heads to show up to the council meeting on Tuesday? >> Yes. >> Only minimum or
>> more you're giving a report because according to Gina, please do. >> Yeah, they're doing third or second, >> but there's going to be a lot of people culture and nice >> light. Here we go for you.
His name is >> no. Okay. Maybe the time. Okay. So, it it says here Orleans.
So, it's OPC. OPC O for Oscar, P for Peter, C for Carlos. And it's And it's Orleans. O R L E A N S. Another
word pond correlation. C O A L I T I O N. >> This is the current one. >> Who is this? >> And this is >> it has to do I'm not going to try this oxygenation
demonstration project. But this company is doing lake maintenance for >> this is this is something that I guess she was dealing with her leak and they this is just another way of maintaining the lease. >> Oh. Oh. Oxygenation. >> Yes. >> Oh yeah. Well, a lot of what they do is that's what the fountains are,
>> right? The fountains. >> Yeah. >> But what I wanted to at least as a reference for that um because she sent a communication to this person and maybe as a reference for that I can just reach out. Here we go. Inside. Yeah. This this
is the name of the person. I got it. >> You got to come up with something like that. >> So it's Paul >> tournament >> gangster. G A N T Z E R >> and he is withity
>> resources groupource to the next. >> Perfect. So you just >> and his phone number is 206. >> You want me to put this in a minute different? >> Yeah. >> Well, just because I'm gonna use it as a reference now so I can get a hold of you
to make a hold >> What is it? What is it? >> Oh, the phone number. >> Oh, 206 with some other explosives. >> 999 1878. Yeah, that's good enough as reference. So now when I grab it,
>> it's his title is >> sources. You mentioned resources, but very fast. >> Chief Oxief. >> No, that's PC. He's like 17 letters next to when you're like Springfield, you don't need
just he is >> he doesn't have a title. He just got PhD and PE >> not a PE coach. >> Yes. Germany gentleman
heard that just one kid. This is another question. You can bring it up. >> Well, we can bring him in here. >> Yeah. >> Right. Again, it's it's the reason why when I reach out to Reynolds, >> so yes,
>> I have a question. >> Yes. >> Are we still on the same topic? >> Yes. >> Remember still open for discussion? >> Thank you. the the >> did you >> the report to the camps >> just heard it >> I know there's a list of initiatives
and I need clarification because I don't want to repeat this lake awareness and how to protect our lakes that's one initiative we're doing the other one is the fertilizer initiative which is no longer an ordinance u I can know each of us is going to be
talking like last time they don't according to Gina please don't make it to length like the last one and And it's just >> No, because they're having that uh >> Oh, well, I mean, I'm sure it's our time. >> So, I I don't know. Why is it that we
should shorten things out? So, they're going to hear us once a quarter and then why don't you go in there and do it in three minutes after you sit in there for three hours to wait? >> Oh, great. Then people can wait for us. Like, we've waited for everybody. I mean, listen, Felicia, at the end of the day, you can do your presentation in two
seconds or you can do it in two minutes. That's up to you, right? We're not going to dictate how long you're going to take. >> Well, it's up to you. You can you can combine both your topics, right? >> Awareness is making people.
>> You can summarize it. >> No, I you can summarize it however you you know, I give you three minutes. No worries. We spoke about this last time, >> right? >> Right. Well, this is what they want to
see. Which by the way, they changed the format >> of that. I don't know if you guys had a chance. >> Yes. >> To be well, to be quite honest with you, talking about conflicting and confusing. >> That's what that did.
It's repetitives. It talks about initiative, but what you're working on, I mean, it's like the same thing. It's it's >> I mean I thought I thought >> in my opinion >> the package was it you know and then on top of that if you're requesting a new a
new event you have to put how much it's going to cost >> just a messenger. >> So I I think I did personally I think I did a really good job putting all this together. Um I even send it to uh will
you agree is uh the Okay. It was Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So we can keep it short with the councils. It's very in depth. So they could, you know, >> that's like
>> so I went through the trouble of doing the memo for the CAC, right? And then on top of that, I have to add that form, >> right? >> The sense of approving the memo when you have to still fill out another form, which is the same thing, >> right? So what I did is the emails that we had from everybody I made it in you
know like in a reporting kind of format. Um so it was very comprehensive. So I I must say I was an overachiever. Would you agree? >> So
>> no worries. No worries. No, but listen, at least they can't turn around and say we didn't do our job, >> right? So, I I took care of that. >> All right. Any other addition comments with regards to the motion of it? >> All in favor?
>> All in favor say I. >> I. >> That's great. Thank you, Felicia, for calling. >> Awesome. I love the teamwork. Um, all right. Against >> second. >> Oh, you're good. I'm I'm all right. The eyes have it. So that motion passes. All right.
Announcements. Can I make a motion to add on >> announcements? Now you can do >> Saturday is our uh whatever. >> I was going to ask anybody to be there. >> Do we have anything in particular?
>> Oh, okay. Carlos >> and then he'll she'll send >> whatever it to me, >> right? >> No, what I was thinking is maybe if we could have I mean I can use my table the
whole table that I have in my car get our our tablecloth and have information for the people who are going to be there, >> right? Who has a tablecloth? >> Who has a tablecloth? You keep her on the CNC one, but I don't have the dynasty table. Do you know
>> when's the last time you saw it? >> Was that a joke? >> No, I don't. >> Oh, now you're putting those back at us. Huh? >> Pass. Could we just make a note? Maybe we could have, you know, the custodians maybe look for it.
>> Okay. So, they store the table there. >> I don't know if you had the tablecloth store here or at Mary Collins. I don't know where the table is. I haven't seen it for the uh bike rides, >> right? >> So, >> I'm not sure we used the bike. It might
be >> 305 with a bike with a >> I'm not sure we used it for the culinary. So, the town >> it may be on that. It really may be on. >> No, but you know what? No, Clarice said definitely or or our prior
>> I would No, she would know. >> Yes, >> she's a first time maternity leave so I can't >> Okay. So, >> um I'll check by she might know. >> She might know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just uh if you can have it by tomorrow, I'll I'll be here doing >> you know we could get a table as well or event on Saturday or
>> uh that's an offsite. So yeah, >> that would require a rental >> cuz it's not a >> I have I have a table >> or facility. >> I volunteer my tables. They're in the car already. >> So they're available.
>> So now you committee your committee hosts an event and you got to bring your own table. >> It's offsite. >> You have to. I was borrowing it from somebody else. Then I'm >> What does offsite mean? Offside. town sponsor parker facility somewhere
else. >> No, it's basically not one of our facilities. >> So now we're doing park now. >> All right. So >> I do have another announcement even though I was
>> Okay. But which one you want first? The one you want us to put in the agenda for next meeting? No, I'll handle that separately. >> Okay. >> I asked some expert advisor. I I I did want to um ask about the viability of a um uh sign on the entrances to town that
says welcome to Miami and the number of our population basis because um come October I'm happy to announce I'll be adding one to it. >> Congratulations. >> You'll be adding what? to our population.
>> Congrats, man. Great. Great. >> Great. Thank you for making traffic a better place in this town. We love people like you. We love you, man. We love Keep them coming. >> I'm sure. Yeah. And our beautiful park
that we spend a lot of money on. >> Yes, please. 154 >> plus one however many signs that is >> I think you said >> and I want I need a census from door to door to make sure >> well you know no estimates >> you know how you said that what I want in those
signs >> is a census count >> is that what you said >> yeah actually 301 >> but the numbers need to be able to be like add a new one >> every
You have to take some off. >> You'll do the manual. Let's do the electronic one. Somebody go on the computer and just hit it a key and that's it. Click it changes. You do the manual, buddy. Ain't going to happen. >> You got a better chance with the electronic version. >> I'll be the guy. >> Yeah. So, hit the uh Do we need to?
>> No. >> No. That was just an announcement. I want to share with my >> Oh, just see family. >> Okay. So, we're not putting any agenda. >> We are not. >> Absolutely. Not definitely before we get booted out of the book. >> It's okay. It's okay to get booted out one day. It's not a big deal. >> Okay. That's right. >> All right.
>> All right. Is there anything else? Any more announcements? Um, I think we're good. Um, I do want to say >> and this is going to be like right here next to >> like the pediatric. >> What time do we have? >> Saturday. What time?
>> 9:00 from 9 to 12. >> Yes. You didn't bring any papers to shred, you know, tables. >> It's free. >> It's free. Free shredding. Well, it's not free because I think as for free. >> Oh, okay. >> It's just not free to do something,
>> but I think actually fronted us for >> a favor on the back. >> Yeah, that we'll be we'll have their um So, >> have the law firm wants to get rid of any >> Oh, we have service. >> This is free. >> This is free. You get what you pay for.
Right. We already have so much information updates. >> That's it. >> All right. So, um >> Isabella, if you can please um just send out I would say Monday it's okay to ask
um a reminder about the council meeting or even on Friday and that we are requesting the presence of >> all the Yep. of all the um members. >> Okay. Yep. I I I must say though I will
not be there. Fortunately, I do have a prior engagement uh months and months ahead of time. Uh Mario will do the honor of of presenting. Um >> and will you be able to attend the committee chair meeting on Wednesday or
when we're going to take over? >> That's on the 22nd. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Wednesday. >> No. Gracias. >> Six. >> Well, Felicia, let me let me let me
mention something here. >> Yes. >> Right. Um, please understand that I'm a working individual. Okay. Right. So, um, my time that I've
been given to this committee for over 14, 15 years and I continue to do, if I cannot make it to a meeting, Felicia, and I'm saying it on the record, then I'm sorry, but I try my very, very best. It's bad enough that they change the
time and now I have to make an extra effort to show up here at the time that they want me to show up. So I'm sorry Fisha >> if I cannot make it to these. I was there the last one and this is the reason why we have great collaborators
and we have vice chairs >> right to be there when the chair can make it. Okay, we're good with that. >> Yes. >> Okay. If you have anything by all means. >> No, I you you know my feelings is like
>> commitment is commitment. >> Okay. I am here Felicia. You're here. You made it. I going to be rewatching it. >> And and I made it. >> Well, I'm happy for myself, too. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, if there's any issues with my commitment, I would greatly appreciate if you let me know.
>> Okay. But at this point in time, I'm giving >> very long time 100% and I will share the same with you. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Awesome. Thank you. That being said, I motion this meeting at 9:00 p.m.
>> Is there a second? >> I like to discuss it. >> Thank you, gentlemen, for your time.