1830 6:30. Roll call. I am present. Vice chair is present. The secretary is present. Mr. James is present for um
please rise for the pledge of allegiance and pledge allegiance to the flag of Americice for all. Anybody out there for public comments? >> No, not today.
>> Any deferrals, additions or delete? What? What business? >> Oh, anyone want to move approve the minutes? I have a couple copyright here. I'll go ahead. Okay. I say motion from
Mr. S. James. All those in favor, >> right? Memorial Day. Um, do we have the national anthem singer left? >> I need their invoice, but I do have someone who said they will
anthem. And then I'm still waiting on the W9s for the taps performer. And the teacher, I think Judy said she was going to work on that. Um, the main thing is the event request form. I have a printed copy here. >> Okay. >> Out of chairs, dining table.
>> Probably fill that out right now. >> So, the location is going to be Mary Collins is Memorial Day. >> What time is the event? Let's see what >> the advanced budget. What do we have in the budget? Remove physical.
It's um the budget here says $1,000. >> This is >> that >> Oh, this is the this part of the um later on for that budget workshop. I think this is the one that you drafted up, right, Phil? Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh I think the last meeting you all
decided to move from the tree line item to day. So be that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Motion regarding 200 line item. Okay. So up to the grand then here,
>> right? That's what I have, >> right? Yeah, that's what I have too. Yeah. >> Okay. And then max we expect what max will be about? >> Yeah. Point of contact. This is >> tables.
>> What do we need to >> stuff like that? >> Yeah, we're going to need some two tables. >> There's tables there. We >> But let's make sure they're there. >> Right. >> They're always there. They have table. They have chair. They basically have everything we need. Americ
make sure I was going to say we need four tables for the pool. >> We need one table >> 100 chairs. >> One table set up for the u you know the uh Memorial Day uh poppy. >> Well, yeah. That's what I was going to say because in the last meeting minutes we were talking also about I don't know
if the I know we put money for the rent. I thought I'd be ready for that at least to like have a table like what you said about the prophecies of course table the general text for that >> yeah so
we got to find out about the theater and see what we see microphones audio yeah we're going to need PA system >> it's nice to have during the uh Memorial Day thing a little you know so you don't have silence between everything. Just a
little background patriotic music on the speaker. Doesn't have to be loud. Just like you would have in a >> I can bring something or you bring something. Yeah. You've done that before. You were telling turn off. >> Yeah. Too loud. That's because it's too
loud. >> I can't hear that. >> That's a problem. You know, it's loud for some people and not loud for others. >> Just 10% disability. >> That's why I got hearing aids. Now I can hear everything. I'm like, "Oh my god, he's so loud."
I shut I shut it off every bike transit. Nope. Nope. Permit. Nope. Nope. >> What about the tap square? >> Yeah, but that's they're they don't range for that, right? It's or I guess
you are. So, we'll put taps That was a nice touch. I got to tell you that that almost brings a tear. That guy placed at the end. >> Well, he should. That's Memorial Day and National thing. >> And the wreath placement we contact with that woman's group.
>> Uh I lost their friend gives me their card. >> Call me. >> Yeah. CP. We didn't put any money. No, I think you said the garden club usually. >> Yeah. And they donated it. Yeah. >> What's the name of that woman's group?
>> I want to say it's women's gardening club. I garden club. >> Last time they delivered it through club. >> Yeah. Something like that. >> I was also being asked about the Medal of Honor. >> You got that information.
I didn't. So, I'm going to >> what I'm going to do with the Medal of Honor citations is we're meeting this weekend with the American Legion guys. >> Okay. >> And I'm going to get somebody from the Army, the Navy, from the Air Force to each one read one.
>> Okay. >> The Coast Guards are the same guys. There's only one Coast Guard, >> right? >> You run the people for that tomorrow. Army Saturday. >> When you get a Saturday, we're going to ask for the volunteers. >> And you already have the prayers night, right? the medicine. >> It should be Ismo. If Bismo shows up,
Ismo shows up. He should show up. If not, we'll we'll figure that one out. >> You know who would be good at that and he's done it in the past? Fred Shimmer. >> I mean, just to have another person. >> Yeah. I mean, Fred does good. What Gary
does is he prints out the prayer >> and you know, and so Fred Fred just does really good. He really does have a great voice to speak. >> He does. I mean, I think he'd be honored. >> So, I mean, we'll just ask Gary to print out the prayer and then, you know, someone can just read it if uh
>> I want to say if he asked for it ahead of time, then again, now you're looking at another group of people that are going to show up cuz Fred never comes by himself. He brings his >> Yeah. Just the only reason I say is because actually being finished anyway. So, okay. Four rectangle tables.
Let's make it six just in case. He knows how much food is going to show up. chairs. They should have not. >> Yeah, I'm going to ask for 100 chairs. Um, and that's about it. >> What about setting them up? >> Setting them up. >> Yeah. Put them all out.
>> Well, probably the manpower has to come from us. >> So, we need to be there ahead of time to do the tape part. >> So, we'll talk about that. And you know what? I want to make some fly copies of
those flyers to pass out. >> Can we put that on? Is there anywhere we can we can get that in the um Miami Lakers, you think? >> This flyer? >> Yeah, >> for the Miami. Well, I know they advertise some events already.
>> They charge us to do that, >> but for an ad, you would need to pay. >> We would need to pay, >> right? Even though it's a non >> I know they include some time events for free but like a paid advertisement there's different levels as to how big it is if it's in color if it's not in
color. They have different options. >> We like as big as they could do for free and then if we have the draw so we could do it quickly and get it out. >> Yeah. For free. That would be with Linda. >> No, it's they don't do anything for free. >> Yeah. I don't think she would the cost
of a full page or half page half page about 2,000 bucks. Is it worth the >> It's not worth the squeeze. >> Um Larry, what you can do is can you go to the print shop and and make four uh 50 copies of this for the American
Legion meeting on on Saturday? >> Yeah, they're expensive. The print shop they're almost a color copy like that. >> Yeah, >> they're expensive. >> Some copies. >> I can bring you some copies copies of the flyers. >> Yeah, they're they're almost a dollar copy. I can bring one downstairs after
the meeting. >> Okay, that'll be fantastic. Yeah, please do. Okay. About 50 of them, please. >> What's our dollar? >> I know this. >> Okay. So, I make a motion. I make a motion that uh for our requests, we ask
for six rectangle tables, 100 chairs, a taps player, and the national anthem singer, and a small PA system. 10 six rectangle tables, 800 chairs. >> What was the message?
>> Small PA system. >> Oh, the PA system is a beautiful PA system. >> National seconded by Major James. All those in favor? >> I I one last thing. Pedro mentioned he's
going to handle the end. >> Yeah, that's what he said. So, we'll we'll talk to him um at the meeting on Saturday. Okay. So, >> he did say, did he contact you when I wasn't there? >> No. >> They called me up and told me to tell you he wasn't coming.
>> Okay. Okay. So, he's So, I'll see you Saturday. >> Okay. Now, he's in the favor. Might be later. Um Okay, we did the event request form already. All right. New business June meeting
reschedule special fall meeting proposed town committee budget falls on the same day and time. All right. So let's take a look at this committee budget which is behind the flyer. All right. Behind the flyers. Um this is our committee budget right
now. And uh oh I'm expecting a lot of grief from the f fellow chairs. you know, when they see that we got 45,75 and $100,000, you know, there's some committees that
already have this 4,000 or 2,000 or 1,000, but this is all fundraising thanks to Judy really. >> So, on the yellow underneath the yellow the budget, proposed budget, um I'm asking them to kind of
reconcile our budget with things we actually do and remove line items. We no longer do anything, but I want to make sure I'm right. So I want to run by the committee obviously. So Veterans Affairs Committee the first line item I'm not I think that's our
actual budget. We got 28 bucks back in 2022 2023 from the town she's down you guys. Um Veterans Day the town runs that. So I'm not sure why that's even there. Is it a placeholder? Do you know Isabella?
>> I'm not sure. I'll check on means >> because they do the parade and everything. We've never asked for any money for them. >> Some of these old Yeah. really old. >> So, I mean, if there's no purpose for it, if we can remove I'm just trying to
clean up the ledger. Remove that line item because, you know, why have it? Well, I don't think line items can technically be removed because of the records that it holds from the past, but it's more like where you want your funds to be allocated and that's what shows up on that budget report you have in each
agenda. >> Okay? But they've been there forever. >> You know, so they're they're always there. >> They've been there. >> You know what would be cool for the parade wouldn't require a whole lot of money. We have a we have our use our our grand marshal. We have well not not much grand marshall but but the uh the
chairman of our veterans committee and I mean something other than just a little sticker on a car you know how we have on the float we have those signs made on back of the the the styrofoam board if we could get some cool signs maybe to put on the car maybe more appropriate for a parade wouldn't be expensive it would give us a little more pizzazz a
little more visibility I just think it's you know just the ideas that upscale greatly to >> we got we got to find out how much will they cost and figure that you know, how much do they cost? And really >> well, we we get we get like if you're
the grand marshal, you get like this thing that they stick on along your car, you know, and so you're only going to be grand marshall once, so why spend too much money on it, you know what I mean? >> And it's definitely readable and we're going so slow. I don't think anybody had a problem reading it. I mean, I saw people reading it when I was in the car
and saying, "Oh, that's >> that's all the tablet paper." >> You know, we did some We never even had flutes. A couple years ago, we said, "Hey, let's get a float in there." Yeah. >> And just I mean, just something to make it more like a parade. That's all I'm thinking about. That's >> the American Legion kind of has a float. >> That's the float I'm talking about.
We're the ones that got that. >> Yeah. >> We We never had a float before. We say, "Let's do it." And then Fred popped up and said, "I'll pay for it." That's what we have. >> Well, we have that. Um, but mainly the the parade is mainly marching bands. >> Yeah. >> And I mean, I think the parade is pretty
fantastic, you know. I mean, it's already really long. >> More people in it than watch it. >> Yeah. Well, I think we That's because we added the golf carts, you know? I mean, I was I joked around last year. We added the golf carts and we had more people in it than watching it. But at least, hey, they were there.
>> We'll talk. >> Okay, moving right along. Um, Veterans Day. All right. So, no change there. Patriots Day, we never had any money, but now it's done by uh public safety committee. So, if I don't know if they should move that line item because
>> last year what we did, I got a call from uh now this whole agent, what's her name? The lady from Barber Golden up and asked me if I would help them arrange the flags. We did have we did have a visibility up there. So, I was out there. Carlos came out and we
helped we helped them settle flags. >> We also supplied them. We I guess the American Legion paid for it the pieces and stuff. So we're >> the mayor from Legion paper the flags and pay for the pizzas. >> So our line items are the ones here where it says budget a thousand 25 the
12,500 and 2,000. >> That's the stuff and then you see so on the yellow is where I commented. So I said event done by public safety the 5k run but they budgeted zero for us and we take care of it care packages. Um, and I
understand that, uh, I'm not sure what the goal was that before, um, >> for the care packages. >> Yeah. Was it >> that was delivered to people like >> deployed forward? >> Yeah. Or like a veteran died, they were
given what I remember, they would give like a care package to a spouse or something like that. >> There's a bold. >> Yeah. I mean the uh >> there's money in it is what >> there's money in it I guess 500 bucks.
Um >> is that money in it now? >> The care package 97. >> All of the money that you have in plans is reflected on this report. So there is the 500. That's how much you have in that line item right now.
>> So this we haven't used it. So we can move it for something else I suppose. Um >> so that would be kind of what this budget should reflect. So how you want your money to be moved around for the next fiscal year that way you don't have to go back and forth >> forth and moving >> exactly >> what am I going to you have included
stuff in the past that's not >> so look here in the budget you have 250 for the shirts and we had 500 right now >> yes it you want to move 250 for the shirts >> yes >> so you want me to make up can we like do we even have to make a we have to make a
motion but that doesn't go up to the council for approval right because it's less Well, all of this is getting reviewed by council in that special call in June. So, what you're talking about now is this budget sheet. >> It's just moving it around. >> So, yeah, you're talking about how much you want in each line item. That way, it
can get approved in that meeting, >> so let's move the entire 500 to the insurance >> or memorial you have. You want a th000 for memorial? >> Yes, we do. >> So, maybe >> Yeah, let's move that 500 >> there. So it looks like there's already
money and there's some problem. >> Okay. Yeah. Is it right? So I make a motion to move the care package drive money line seven to line 10 the Memorial Day event and then just put 500 and
cross out 10,000. I'll redraft that. Do I have a second to that motion? >> I'll second. >> All those in favor? All right. >> If you take out the revenue that was in the budget, >> that's about the number 100 for the sinners.
>> It's about right. >> 200 for the tax guy and then like buyucks, right? >> Yeah, that's about right. 500 bucks. Just do it. Great idea. Great idea. >> All right. So, flag retirement stuff is done by the Boy Scouts. Memorial Day we
just took care of me of I'm not sure what that even is about. >> Does anybody recall? >> Well, someone says, "Please remove this line there." >> That's what I wrote. >> That's what I wrote because I'm like, >> but I'm sure there was money then. That's why it's there. >> That's why it's there. So, you can't
remove this line. >> Probably a history of that. >> Yeah. Marlin's field trip on the military to be honest with you. We >> other than that period. >> Yeah. But and also with the American Legion takes care of that. You know, we had we did a trip just in February, 16
tickets and stuff. >> So, we have we have access to that. Military tribute banners say the same. Out of darkness. Um, I think it's a mental health task force. I think this is something about PTSD
and veteran stuff, which I think mental health task force will be a better uh source for this thing. I think that's what it is because I heard about a movie called Out of the Darkness which is about >> that was that they came here one time and they it was for that and they asked
us to help one time. I don't know if you guys were >> I wasn't around. >> No, so that was it. It was somebody's somebody's family. >> Yeah, I know. I know. I know what you're talking about because they went to the military affairs committee for county which is what I'm on too. >> So that's
>> and it's the same folks that asked. I think I think they would be they would be a better >> Yeah, I agree. >> PTSD mental health fit, but I'll remove all my little remove this item because you cannot remove >> um >> but yeah, we don't need to put one.
>> Yeah. And uh bal contests for military patriotism. Um purchase trees with plaque 2000. Keep that. Veterans committee shirts 250. Keep that.
job fair. >> Now, you don't have 250 in your shirt. >> Yeah, we don't have anything. >> We don't have anything. So, that's a good deal. >> So, yeah, if they're going to add that, we'll take it. >> Do you want to do a motion? >> Going based off your existing budget.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I make a motion to add the 250 for Veterans Committee shirts. >> Second. >> Second by M. Major James. All those in favor. >> Okay. the job fair. Honestly, that's all
done through the VA, you know, and a bunch of other organizations do so many job fairs. I I can't imagine that we will do a better job with our limited resources. Um, grants and aids and others, what what is that?
>> What's the catchall? >> That grants and aids is when you're donating money, right? >> So, if you're going to be donating money, you should put money in grant. So >> all right, we didn't Well, we donate money to the American Legion, >> right? So all the monies should be that
should be reflected. >> That's a variable amount based on what we or we bring in. >> That's a percentage that we wouldn't be asking >> like we didn't donate to them. Well, I guess maybe we donated this 20 thou 20,000. >> We have to put in a number for what's basically an expenditure. Not an
expenditure, right? Like you know what I mean? Like we don't know what that >> we don't know it's going to be. We don't know what we're going to raise. We can say we can say a percentage. >> That's what we have in the minutes. >> Yeah. 25 25% of whatever run. >> That would be part of your report. I guess the council to explain that.
>> I I'll say it's a 25% >> whatever comes from the from the 5k, right? >> Yep. 75% or monument. >> All right. Transfer to EPF for parks.
That's I guess to uh the monument veterans monument change that okay >> I like to add one I really think that we can raise a chunk of money to them been to a lot of them I've seen how they operate and you know
what Angel just did was good but he hasn't raised very much money I think we can do a whole lot better and I've been looking around at some of the golf courses one of the golf courses that would really be prime for us more so than than uh Miami legs Miami Lakes is beautiful, but they don't have a
facility. They're two years away from the facility. They they're very expensive. They're limited to what days we can use it. The Country Club of Miami has just gone under going in the process of undergoing the complete renovation of the golf course. >> They're going to open again in December.
They're very veteran conscious right now. They give to the Heroes Golf program. Is it Charles? Right. >> They they look they veterans. We play there for free. Let's do it then. So, you know, this this to me would be the the the the proper course to do that. And they just remodeled their clubhouse
or their uh their beautiful it's very nice. They're going to be open again in December. So, we're probably like you had said before, it takes six, eight months for proper cleaning to get our get our >> reindeer run in December, >> right? So, you know, maybe in I'm
thinking maybe in in March or April, >> late winter, early spring, >> you know, would be the time before it gets too hot. >> And then and then but we're going to need seed money to get it going because you have a lot of upfront money that has to go out that we may get before we start raising money. I wouldn't want to get in the point where, okay, we got to
put a $5,000 deposit down on the golf course and we just, you know, so is is this something that we would need to to put my own down, get the money, even though we we could repay it back later, but we want to need the money up front in order to do this.
>> Um, I guess it's well there we can talk about it, but there's another way of doing that. We have seed money at the American Legion. So if we make it like a joint veterans committee American Legion fundraiser,
>> I think I think for for all purposes the American Legion is great, but I think that we as a veterans committee have a lot more drive with the businesses and the towns people than the Veterans Committee because we're part of the town. We're coming from city hall. >> No, I hear you saying, but you know what the f the American Legion is? A 501c3
>> and everybody wants to donate. >> No, it's not a >> no. And what's the appetite to ask the town for money for an event that hasn't occurred right now with topics? >> That's not gonna happen. They're not going to be able to give us money before. They're they're not going to put
money into something unless they see it's been successful. >> You get what I'm saying? Especially now in this >> Yeah. So, I mean, to me, if you if you want to get there, you know, the American Legion has about six grand and sitting around four fundraising. And so, you know, part of this going to
be used for the Did we have any poll with the American leader? >> Yeah, I think so. Do you know anybody numbers? Calling me my hearing aid and it's bothering me. Uh anyhow, so
um so I think that's probably the best thing, you know, if you can sell it to them and come up with a cost. I know you already have a plan. Um it just it's very manpower intensive. I mean, uh what's his name? Uh, Angel had about 15 guys working.
>> When you're doing a golfing event, all of a sudden they come out of the woodwork. People like to be part of this. It's a fun thing. >> Okay. >> Well, then that's good. But so I mean, let's let's bring it up with the American Legion. Uh because two things, no one's going to want to donate you.
One, you're donating directly to a veterans organization. Two, you're getting a tax deduction. You're not going to get that if it's through the veterans committee mining lakes veterans committee mining less is not a 5123 um and so it's going to go to the
mechanism called the town of Miami leaks government you know and filter through their Leviathan accounting process >> open to the >> yeah and then you know actual veterans is going to get very trickle down to
maybe gets a little bit and we have to fight for anything. So, it's one thing that we can say we're sponsoring it, you know, so we can use some maybe resources to like make copies and put out pamphlets and stuff. Um, but I think the
best way is to go through the American Legion. I think it's doable. and so be a town event. Of course, you know, >> we can be co-sponsors. >> Yeah. >> That way the money and all that doesn't get to this nonsense. >> You know what I'm saying?
>> And then what we can do is we can fund raise not only for the Legion, but also the monument. So that's that's the town that's the town's cut. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. >> So the Legion recoups their cost plus something >> and the town gets whatever's left over,
you know? So we kind of flip what they do to you know we do where the reindeer run. Yeah. All right. So okay moving right along. Okay. So I want to make a motion to approve the the budget as amended. Um
can I get a second on that? >> Second. >> Right. Uh all those in favor. >> Okay. Let's get >> That's the proposed budget. >> The proposed budget. >> Yeah. >> Proposed budget. At this special call, you have to do the dates for each of
your proposed events for this year, >> your estimated attendance at each event from the prior year. >> Um, and the number of sponsorship dollars collected from each. >> I think I think uh I did that. I filled that out. I know I sent it to somebody.
Send it to obviously it was not me. >> No, probably send it to somebody. Not even some recipient. They're like wood template you used to make this. I don't know if you saw the spreadsheet. So, if you don't mind just sending me the
actual spreadsheet with that like the bottom part. >> I'll change it up. No problem. >> I mean, you kind of have the outline of your events week agenda. So, it's kind of just saying >> Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty events, right? The ones >> Yeah. >> what your attendance was last year.
>> I think the 5K is going to be easy to pull that information, right? That's the big one. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. So, okay. So, I'll get that information. >> Yeah. So, that's due the 22nd. So, the special call is scheduled for June 4th,
which is also your guys's next meeting. >> So, yeah, you have to move the meeting. That way, you can actually attend the the special call meeting. >> So, let's take a look at the calendar. They had some class runners in that 5K last year. I was I was the slowest one of the
ribbon of the winning ribbon winners. Wow. How about this? Any suggestions? June 11th. >> June 11th is available. Do you want to move this to June 11th for 6:30? >> That's through June 11th. And I make a
motion to move it to June 11th, 6:30. 6:30. All those in favor or have a second. Do I have a second? >> Second by. All those in favor. Okay. >> June Thursday.
>> Yes. It's a week after >> I got trouble was on third and Thursday because that's when I got you there. >> Yeah. Okay. No. Uh, I have no new updates on the uh
casino domino night thing besides May 1st, 2027 being the date. Don't know where it's going to be yet. Anything else we need to do as well? >> Uh, the main thing was just the budget and then those additional items that I
told you about the meeting rescheduled and then yeah, the Memorial Day ceremony kind of wrapped it up. So, I think we're good, right? Right. So, I'll look out for the email from you for the budget stuff and then the citations that you mentioned.
>> Okay. Anything else? >> Yeah. I just got one thing and I'm kind of I'm not going to say that I'm frustrated or disappointed. I'm just looking for a way to do it do better at it. Um these posters that we made up and
the flyers and stuff for Memorial Day absolutely no good. The only money that's ever been raised are the money where we directly went out to people, hey, come on. You know, sign your name, do the thing, you know, donate something. You're >> talking about the poy. The poppy >> poppy. The poppy. We've had no success in it whatsoever.
We saved the poppies to put out just before Memorial Day because that's when they're people start wearing them. They buy them brings the most attention to it. But we haven't raised a single dime. And I'm talking about we've got them in the auto mall. Judy's got them over. They're people we know. Friend of mine in the car dealership over here. They're
in active worship and they haven't contributed not a penny, nothing. No one's actually come up with a phone and boom and given money. >> Yeah. >> And we're doing we're doing the thing in public, aren't we? >> We're supposed to do that on the Tuesday before or excuse me, the Friday before the 22nd.
>> Okay. So, that's a chance for us to raise some money. >> Yeah. You know, what are we going to bring in there? I mean, people aren't going to you're not going to find >> Maybe we bring, you know, 80 bucks, 100 bucks. >> We're going to bring We're going to bring some money in. You know, I I think $2,000 would
probably be a lot for that day. But yeah, what's going on with that guy? >> I'll be I'll be honest with you. I kind of expected this to be the result. And and I'll tell you why. It's because it doesn't have the meaning anymore, you know, because you have less than 1% of
the population is a veteran or even related to a veteran. You know what I mean? >> And so people don't understand what it means. And people don't understand, you know, what I mean, there's always a lot of lip service about support your veterans and then there's very little follow through and those people who
follow through are absolute patriots and thank god we have um you know people are dead and but uh you know so I'm not surprised you know but at the same time we didn't do bad. I mean, we're supposed to we we raised
about at the chamber, we raised about 600 bucks and we got a commitment to $35,000 donation. And so that's not bad, Larry. I mean, for that's a return of investment of, you know, we put in a,000 bucks. That's
a return investment of 34,000. I mean, I know you're disappointed that we didn't get the $5 of $5 of $5 to $5 because that would have been quite a bit, but still, you know, that's just the nature of the thing, you know. Um, I would say
uh one thing we could have maybe done is figured out when all the Chamber of Commerce meetings were like go to Halia's Chamber of Commerce and do the same thing. But then why would they would support something in Miami Lakes? >> Well, the idea of supporting a Pompy fund would be, you know, in itself is is
good. But again, when you talk about the monument, Miami Lakes, yeah, it's not their town. >> Yeah, it's not their town. So, I mean, I I personally, I think it's been a success. I know you're frustrated that a lot more folks did not uh put a dollar for a poppy or anything like that. And
who knows, we still got time. You know, maybe I hate to say it, there's just not the kind of events that they used to be. like the entire month of May back when I was a kid and you know we were all younger you know it was basically Memorial Day Memorial month you know the
whole month it was something to remind you the public service announcement that we used to block all you know we don't really have that anymore they don't really have that idea of the >> yeah the idea of completely lost >> if you put the effort into it then money will come you go up to somebody hey come
on D this do it but unless you do that you're just not walking up to the poster and making out. >> That's what they used to do back in the day. I remember doing that. Seeing at the gas station, little can, put a dollar in, take a poppy. >> I remember doing all that. And then people used to do that, but they don't they don't even know what it is anymore,
>> you know. >> So, I understand your frustration, but I think overall it's been excessive successful endeavor. >> You know, even you know, I mean, we'll get that 35,000 I'm sure. And uh you really can't beat that. you know, we
would have made something like 37 $36,000. That's not bad. So, all right. Anything else? >> Motion to adjurnn. Second.