thank you so much so we see you thank you that traffic's horrible isn't it on the other side other side of the the highway you know part of town one that you have three lights that5 minutes guyses ago and he was
talking about he's working on that right now yeah do what you want I yes we are [Music] I my I'm
not I don't know I think the count to do a yeah we're actually in the meeting right now we're live live from New York all right all right [Music]
um all right read call order time now is States of America stand na indivisible for please take your seats all right this subcommittee is
being called review applicants for the banner um we have received several applications you pull up spreadsheet sir you got public
comments oh okay he wants to join the okay good to meet you I have a total of I believe I have people who Marines Mar that's a so sent via email the one that I have in front of me and it's a total of
nine um a moment I can try to start Martinez Alexander Martinez no these are the ones that reapply the re and yeah that's that's not what we have um we're supposed to have there new applicant were supposed to
approve I didn't bring my laptop but let me see what I can f so your your question is the ones that have have applied in the application that's been open right yes okay got if you're because yeah these are ones is it
necessary we discussed this before we didn't have a conclusion on it the resubmit the DD214 all that stuff all over again if you've already done it is it necessary to do it's hard thing to do it is it is PDF of your
DD214 doing all the paperwork all over again not you should have your D pull it off a VA you know I do how about how about how about if you get VA benefits how about the benefits letter that says you know your your uh you don't have to even say the one that say I'm just
asking here's what it is I mean just's a letter you can pull that says here's your peer active duty and here's your dis wein specifically for g214 I've got one I mean it's not a big deal but it it's
been it was brought up by more than one person that you know they have to redo everything all over again it's a it's quite deal the last time I did I think jary did it for me last I gave my14 he bu all the paper Gary remember that when you were doing that a while
back we gave our information to Gary and Gary did application up until 2021 I better 2021 was the 21 then G did and we had 93 Banners at that time right after that he was yeah with s the
military banners and they them and they would say they don't here's my here here's the thing we already voted yeah people have to reapply so now the question becomes what's the process and the easiest there's two easy process either you provide us your d214 or you provide us a letter from the VA which if
if you are a veteran and you're not registered with the VA and you don't have the you know you're not have access to the VA website portal there's something seriously wrong there you know and it's one of the many letters that you can download it has where what happened to the DD 214
that gave you no they been turned into the town it should be here hey I do we have those I don't know which are the ones you did what I know I I but I'm just telling you I wouldn't know which the on you uploaded versus that's not the concern here the question is we have
a a process and who did the process for this person these are the names we have that's really what the question is to me um so give me a second and I can log in and I can but but here I'll start with a problem all right now I'll go back to what I was saying since I was
interrupted so anyhow so the whole idea is we have a lot of folks on there and they may no longer rate to be on there for whatever reason and so um we decided that instead of me sitting there or the committee sitting there you know voting people off the
island which wouldn't be fair is that people just need to reapply and again either you do a dvp4 or you have that VA letter which if you have registered with the VA and you have any disability or you get any treatment with the VA it's
online it's one of the many letters you can download make a copy of and it says you serve from this period of time to this period of time this branch and your discharges that it's available to anyone who gets any kind of VA benefits and you know who gets VA benefits every single veteran
now so problem I have is I didn't bet everybody all right when I started vetting people because of my level of experience of 32 years in Marine Corps being a commanding officer Chief of Staff Second Marine Division I can read
the D2 d24 and I have found fraud serious fraud people for to be a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force and I just call off the air force directly because a colonel Marine for retired can do that and I get the head of personnel and they pull him
up and they say he's never been in the Air Force he pretended he had four purple hearts he pretended a bunch of things I also found a Gunn Marine he said he had three purple hearts he had none he said he did seven tours in Vietnam he did one the rest he was an
admin Chief in the reserves so I think if we're going to be wasting taxpayers dollars to put things up we have an absolute obligation to make sure one these people you know are
actually vetted by the committee not one person by the entire committee you know so I don't mind I mean my my my application is resubmitted again with to include my d24 and my picture and I can do that as well but
not everyone else will well and then and then that's the thing thing that's not the problem that's your problem okay you don't have a right to have your banner up have you know we're honoring you to have your banner up you don't have a right to it okay let's let's establish the
database yeah we got an email from with 83 names okay six one is listed three times and three others are listed twice okay that's that's administrative stuff hold on hold on hold on hold on that's
only and we have 100 199 after 2022 we have 93 okay so we have the other 16 we have another 16 I'm not I'm not even on this one no but that's that makes sense that's exactly the point these are the
people that submitted their application sometime um last year all the way till to now no she said these are people who appli from [Music] 2019 okay exactly so those 2024
that list that list I can pull it right now I'm going to pull it for you guys I need a moment that list are people that applied through our website which you guys have minutes from last year where you said oh we're going to open it up indefinitely and people can continue even after we post the banners we're going to continue grab um receiving the
those applications and then separately to that you have to remember there are old banners old banners that are also in the system right right those were not part of that list unless you put it all together for you those were not part of that list and those are the ones that
she was reaching out to individually because they expired past two years so really the only list that is up to date right now that I guess you're automatically keeping on are the ones that applied in the last two years is my understanding two years was the criteria these are these are old some old ones in here exactly the old ones she reached
out to letting them know there's a process you need to reapply are we contacted every single person did so she sent you guys I don't believe I've seen anything either she sent you guys not no I haven't I I've seen anything either the
she sent the committee you let me finish she let the she sent the committee a note which I have here of nine names of nine notes of names of people that had already reapplied that answered to that reapplication
Fe so on this bill if I'm not mistaken on this meeting basically what we're want to do is these applications as they come in we the committee and yourself are going to be because you're the expert d214 we're going to review these things and go yay or nay on Cor yeah
basically I mean actually this meeting we actually have a list of names starting with Alexander Martinez I did not bring my laptop thatting off I'm pulling up the ones we've received on our website that to me my understanding are the ones that are the latest in the last two years yeah
and that's the one the re application guys you know I've seen this and she needs to put in their actually application stuff you know their dd250 or the VA benefit VA service letter yes so those are not those are just who flag
right now when folks were applying from the beginning when we had this nice looking Forum that everyone applied to this submitted it to the town either you have email or walk
in I also want to have a meeting where we'll review qualifications and that would have gone in the system some computer system down the old ones we go back to the same thing the old ones she reached out to
letting them know they need to reapply we're we're I think we're repeating the same thing because she has their contact information those are not old no I'm just saying I'm not even there angel is not there when was your banner put up when was
your banner put up beginning so you know what may have happened if I'm seeing a trend here the committee members are the ones whose names were not sent emails you know why because the committee members were probably just added on and didn't go through the same process that everybody else went through because I
can see that happen oh yeah we know that Gary needs to be at it I'm not saying that that's what happened but that could have happened with some committee MERS and again this seems like a very old process so that's the point we're all bringing it to the very modern this is what what's going on right now there's no point in going back and oh we
did this right or we okay what are we doing right now meeting that where we reconcile the list maybe that's what this meeting was about maybe I'm wrong but she wanted you guys to go through the banners to make sure which ones you have on there that maybe we don't have an application for
and now we know oh this person is old and we need to maybe get their information right but that information was in the town before otherwi we have has been pulled yeah I hear you but we can deal with that issue later we're not here to
solve that issue we're here to Sol there we're already to hear the vote on those if there is a banner it's because documents were submitted correct documents should be in the town well that's what I and and I'm repeating the same thing here if we have information those people have been reached
out that is where we're at we haven't been reach so maybe you guys didn't submit something that's the only thing that makes because we used to go through this we have here so then you yeah so then and this is the last thing I'll say then that means Gary cardinas maybe we maybe
we lost that information let's just put it out there I don't know we did maybe we did if that's the case that's why it's important for you guys to go through these band because your name would come up there and it would when you reconcile You' see oh we didn't reach out to Gary we need to reach out to Gary that's exactly why you guys need to go to those BS and I and I was
suggesting in my respond that you go to military trib on slope and from their people a list yeah we should have a list yeah from military tribute Banner of going through Hand by one by one right that's another issue we be hear that's that was one of my
suggestions but then they have to pile up different years because remember they just they only reprint a certain amount every year they don't do the full batch every year yeah but they you have but when they reprint it yeah we just had them all reprinted we're a customer we're we just had them all not last year though the year before I think it was
last year well we can ask him for that order yeah yeah we had them all reprinted so let's get the well actually we did in 23 maybe it was 23 we did the we did the clean up and then we clean them up we used the wrong
soap we scrub the ink off yeah yeah22 and then we had here which ones needed to be replaced email Isabella for the application I don't see anything I don't got I didn't get anything okay you guys need to give me a moment
because I need to log into my email and I'm also talking I need a moment and my I mean maybe she made a mistake in telling me but the notes she sent me was these are the these are the notes for the reapplications well you got a Cod no I got
allergy yeah yeah the milk tree are starting to bloom now oh my God what's that which one the allergies the the yeah it's just wind bus it all around [Music] [Music]
yeah I'm not able to get into this right now like I I would have needed this in advance I'm trying but Mar what and you and I that inventory we we yeah3
[Music] 93 22 Yeah April [Music] is this the one list emails the same list that email no I this is like not
working I'm happy to pull it and send it or double check that she did um but again my understanding was that you guys were going to go to today and that's why they were brought here no we actually the the was to few had special car
whatever that sent us a list one in and included she emailed and included everybody's information the actual applications for the new people oh so she did send she shouldn't send that that's got information on
Social Security submitted to us I will mention is public information so if somebody does not feel comfortable uploading that they should not be submitting information to us that's people's date of birth and Social Security but I'm just letting you know
yeah well even if but even if we redact it it is public like public information yeah I just don't want somebody stealing your credits okay say that the is from the on should be as a correct statement I
don't know on theth list on right should be is correct 2019 2023 applicants on the March 5th email from9 I'm talking she sent a smaller
list with uh people who were applying CU I went through it so I will mention is 6:32 yeah there was another committee coming the ler re applied is on our most recent email and that was um
dated those that reapply for the military some additional L for the subcommittee meeting taking place today at 6 p.m. I'll person not be able to attend the meeting I will be taking over please any questions yeah that was last yeah fortunately we have the stuff that we
need that's not yeah but is that was that information sent to you guys at all yeah it was because I reviewed every single applicant all the new applicants and I went who was approved and who wasn't approved from my point of view that's why I was asking you to pull it up
I need a moment to build it up like I can't just so and unfortunately your meeting was only 30 minutes yeah if we would had that I would be able to crank through them all because I went their
applications yeah that time we had that that election for the uh the grandm for the parade there was a guy in there spent I don't know how many years overseas and didn't have a single overseas Bor on his record every every six months you're supposed to get bar you didn't have
any any notes you want me to send to her I'll do is I'll send her an email letting them know of the ones that are riew which one are
and then bill in addition to uh I mean the idea of U your knowledge and understanding of the the dd214s really great because that'll help us in the nor end we also have to look at you know do they actually live in Miami Lakes no mean not the same we have to set the criteria you know I mean that's the
other problem we have we just got every single person kind of being thrown up there so we need we need to set down and outline like you said the criteria yeah and then and then we can move forward that the individual applications yeah okay well considering that we can't pull
up the information we need to uh proceed with uh those people who have been submitted uh information I mean I can go through each one that did and tell them what they're missing um I don't know if you just went after to the
record I'm sorry I can submit I can tell you every one who submitted and once she sent me the list with everybody's information so I'll just go through it here I just can't put it up there okay first one was Alex Martinez um he did not provide a DD214 or VA
letter nor he an active duty ID if he is on active duty Alexander martinz yes also he did not provide any Nexus to mulates so his recommend his thing is disapproved until he provides us that
information but that's not any this that that no she gave it to us she gave it to us emailed it to it those are new applicants they're not even they're not on this CU those are approved applicants yes yeah because there our old name here most yeah this she gave us
another list of those who just I don't okay I don't see that yes I'm trying to find it next one it was 20 it was a total of 20 yes it was uh 23 I have it here what that was it I don't
know why she one two three four 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 those four if there's 23 there's probably it's because some of them were probably
already printed from last year yes okay so Alexander Martinez black d214 no ID no Nexus to I see Antonio Gomez uh he has no DD214 and no Nexus to
my [Music] beles huh they're applying but not submitting well one of things I learned with the town if the town if you email the town a picture of your be get out here this is the purpose
of the meeting you can just talk about this later on Chad Santino he's approved um Irving Bennett is approved provided he World War II V the son of or he's the dad do
dentist um Jose no need 14 in complete package Juan V Dao um he is his wife's an employee of the
town and that's the only I needed and I got that information just now so his wife employee of town he's a postal worker need Deliverance of my so he's approved d u you got that yes lonard
Polo um his Nexus is American Legion [Music] Post Martin Gonzalez so he's approved is that appr Polo yes Polo's approved so right now I have approved is Santino
Bennett D Tarantino is Chad [Music] and Martinez is not so now Martinez for example do you want us to reach out to
that person saying hey the committee finds that you're missing this or is it already a note you already know it's a note I don't know you don't know you need more information yeah we need information you didn't include that one guy just provided me his
driver's license and I'm like okay how how do they app we have it's in the email it shows you what they submitted via email yeah no no she concluded it when she did the email she had like a
link and yeah yeah right here yeah there you go okay but all right the next one he appli for that you can't you can't submit it unless you put the V to4 you you can
upload whatever though you can upload whatever he uploaded his brother Legends three times okay um Martin Gonzalez uh he is a Air Force veteran who died on active
duty but I do not know what his Nexus is to Miami lates he has he's on I know he has a lot of Nexus to haia what's the name Martin Gonzalez there's a person who appli for him marel Maya but is that person an immediate family
member mother exp spouse sister no need more info need more info what's is NEX is Miguel roas we need to know what his connection to Miami lak roas
roas okay Miguel roas Miguel roas what's the next yes okay Pedro Rodriguez Delgado is approved Ronald green is [Music] approved
Delgado Rodriguez Delgado yes is approved okay Ronald green is approved ronal is approved okay Ruben gardo what's his Nexus to my mil he was member of the post is he but he was here for a
while W this been help fair for a while okay well then there you go and I looked at D2 prot and everything so his now he's reud so he's he's actually Reed because he's already up
there that's for make sure Ming yeah there like three there like three or four people that are were up there right and then I'm like okay I'm just re approving they probably just resubmitted it last year when they saw it go out okay uh William
tenan um he's approved approv he was yeah perfect and then there's a William perz which is me I think it's because I changed my picture is that you yeah oh yeah because I changed my picture probably so if you change your picture you have to resubmit the whole thing I'm
approved well it just means we received it through that form mean I got my D14 again anyway so then that leaves the questions for I that's it I still have some more I have Bennett
B Borat dobert which was I know one of the Jim Dober is but he no longer lives long so you know I think I think we need to remove his and mail it to him does he have family here I don't I don't know but I will say let's for removal I want
to have a vote I I I propose I liked him he's a good guy but lives in Georgia now and uh he's no longer a res of M apartment here doesn't no he does yeah he doesn't I haven't seen him he this is my
recommendation I know you guys need to go back to a full committee anyways but the recommendation would be maybe there are some that are just not prioritized in terms of like if there's no space you know what I mean cuz you have tied on space that's kind of the concern here right so maybe somebody
that doesn't live here maybe you kind of don't prioritize them in front of others spacecations again this is the committee needs to decide yeah this is reapplication yeah well Tim was the vice mayor and he was a councilman but he's
no longer here you know um but maybe we want to because he was there like your your town you grew up in you're your need done a mind there isn't it so who knows you know maybe it's somebody you know Tim Tim's given a lot a lot to this
town so I mean the you veterans and he sponsored people in the in the U American Legion St inct if I may I I don't I think there should be a defined criteria like yes I know you guys know this but what is the
criteria on paper what is the criteria and I think that that needs to be followed throughout that's why you need to come up the criteria has been you have to reapply right right but then the for selecting them well right now what I'm hoping is a lot of people don't free apply and we don't
have to worry about the selection but if you they do reply then you guys are now in a situation where you have to move quickly and decide and that's kind of what's the criteria right what if we set down a Criterion like we did like let's say for deceased individuals or or purple heart individuals maybe we could
set one for a previous Town councilman or whatever you know in that case to me it's like that's a different historical division kind of ter no need we need to put an exception in there that would would set them apart from the other we'll figure that out another time well not question for you so tell me any the
the ones that were not approved I just want to make sure I got them all I have four but maybe I missed no I have three okay Martinez was not approved he had no record of ever serving Alexander AR Martinez yes okay I have that um and
no next is Antonio Gomez say no DD214 that's the one I'm missing are they submitting their picture Bill to you one they want to put on the banner yeah pretty much they no we need to remove that Antonio G
yes needs more info or D or the da letter [Music] no the enement letter tells you how VA service letter tells you how
much I have four of them then Martin Gonzalez Alexander Martinez M roas and Antonio Gomez right yes yeah we're just about okay sorry we'll deal with the other issues another day
question question question we those okay question question question we have someone who's playing for the vi and should we inform that maybe after bers will not be up there this year Well we normally tell him what the what the
pricing is we don't really give him the pricing for it project good mean yeah it's all public information yeah years ago we just you know we just let let Li FR know Bill could contact for I don't mind doing it
some should once actually have actual data of what we're doing I will right now we be an assumption I'm not going to tell something based on an assumption assume we're going to be doing this anyone to be up there but the question is if you already been Ved
before why you have to reapply well the committee decided to reapply so at this point and and if for any reason a sponsor doesn't want to sponsor now then that committee does have funding the rule the rule Gary the rule passed you have to no no so I mean we're not going
to revisit that rule we all voted on it I know you weren't here you know but it was pretty much unanimous because we want to put the onus on the person who wants their banner up or their family I know I people