And the first one is one that uh came out of nowhere from a couple years ago. I remember I was campaigning and I was out there with Mr. >> Oh my god. >> Our she goes, "What are you going to do without the environmental function? And
we said, "Well, there's a problem with that. We don't know the last." Well, I I do know. Okay. I have to say, unbelievable. The Nothing short of phenomen.
two years got all kinds of stuff going that I couldn't just do that much volunteers and I use the word like that I see a few out there
and everything else, you know, basically make sure from my standv You know what? Citizen of the year. The is recognized and honored for her 2025
volunteer efforts in addition to her long-term commitment and accomplishments through a broad range of volunteerism in Middle Sex. This certificate is presented by the mayor and council the 16th day of December 2025.
Congratulations. Got family here. It looks so nice with the flowers. accomplish. We have a generic citation that's made out to the Environmental Commission. Okay. And
what on behalf of the governing body of Middle Sex Burl, I'm delighted to extend our deepest congratulations to the environmental commission. Congratulations on the achievement of 2025 sustainable Jersey Rookie of the Year. May become a shining example of
success and inspire other people. Don't go anywhere. as a member of the environmental commission. There's one for you citation. All right. And >> Dan, come on up. However you want to do it
because we're going to take a picture. We're gonna do it right. >> There you go. Congratulations. I'm not going to go through the trouble of reading because they all say the exact same thing. All right. >> All right, Andrea. Andrew Murphy here is another member of
the environmental commission. >> Congratulations. >> All right. Michael Schneider. >> No. >> Holly Muller. two weeks waiting a long time. >> Greg I known for quite a few years. His
daughter and my daughter used to play uh soccer. started. >> Steve Edwards, Gina Salgado. Last but not least, who's got volunteered into this? Bobby Dino. Thank you very much for your tireless
efforts. We do appreciate it. >> All right. All right. >> You know, it used to be that the council used to come and go. No one said a word. No one said thank you. No one said goodbye, anything like that. We changed
that last year. And uh no particular order would go in alphabetical order. So Councilman Jeremiah K. He's getting his speech up.
All right. This citation is presented to you on behalf of the governing body of Minnesota Burough. I'm delighted to extend our deepest appreciation to Councilman Jeremiah Barnes. In recognition of your dedication and service to our burrow and its residents
from 2020 to 2025, this not just me. I learned I learned how to talk from Mayor Matt. So >> the appre As I close this chapter of service, I do so with a full heart, a clear conscious
and deep believing middle burrows in 2020 through co uncertainty, rapid change, fear, influx and multiple pretty much change of a pandemic and that was a learning curve for us. Local government is rarely
glamorized and never visible. It doesn't run on headlines or sound bites. It runs on process patients and people who care enough to show up, ask hard questions and reread the ordinance more than once and stay engaged even though the work is quiet and unseen. I entered this role
without formal education of any type of executive trainee. I learned quickly that good governance isn't instinctive. It's learned. It's learned through experience, humility, repetition, and countless conversations. Over the years, I've actively voted on administrative resolutions such as ordinances and
countless hours deliberating not just what was legal, but was wise and what was best serve the public interest today and protected tomorrow. The reality of local government, small decisions made carefully shape everyday lives. One of the most important lessons I've learned
in this local government only works when people are involved such as the sol often the least understood ordinances don't themselves are improve on their own and culture doesn't grow by accident progress happen when residents participate not just on election time
but through service ideas and engagement the police shape many of the work I'm proudest of I worked long for a lot of mighty things in different but alongside most of the people I see here today and plenty of you missing as well but all of
you advocate for volunteerism to create structures that are welcome people committees commissions public meetings advisory groups weren't created yet bureaucracy they're created open doors and we intentionally use ideas to design better ways to attract new volunteers
the truth is simply we need them communities are built by people's I've seen firsthand. So I've seen firsthand what happens when people get involved. Volunteers bring creativity, perspective, and energy that government alone can never replicate. They make
parks better, which I'm talking about policy smarter neighborhoods. And just as importantly, they learn how the government actually works. How process and compromise and collaboration turn ideas into reality. I've also learned the value of growth, the value
of continual growth myself. I've invested myself personally, professionally, not only credentials, but mostly because the community deserves who deserve to know what they're doing. Along with the way I've embraced that strength, not a weakness, but it's
definitely pushed the borders with some of you here and I appreciate you for embracing me for who I am and see that not a weakness, but it's fueled the creativity and vision and momentum for us in many ways. I just needed help bring it home. is the fuel zone. Having
colleagues who help refine ideas, ground vision and drive home the finishing touches has been invaluable. Leadership is a team effort always. While I'm most proud of the team for moment structures, the moments we built together, it
systems of power processes that invite participation foundations that will continue to serve long after anyone away. I leave this world with peace knowing that the voices are louder, access is greater, and the burrow is a better position for the future. And I'm
glad for that to make up for our interim administrator back. Local government is not something that happens with communities, but it's a community making things happen. Council President, thank you for your um your bridge building abilities dealing with me and dealing and me dealing with you
throw back at you. But you leadership and a lot of things that we wouldn't see including parks improvement committee that we can see what the parks improvement committee is doing today. It's doing my things we did our strict power park expansion. Um I would like to
thank council Dodie helping me with the administrative challenges and making sure that we had the correct leadership and the vision. Um, like I said, CEO roles like CT abilities are formed. So, we know we've had a lot of meetings talking about what's best. We're up here
and on interviewing everything. Um, an unknown recognition, I don't think he's going to hear it very much, Mr. Forsini's uncanny ability to deal with new politicians. >> I got two more next year legally. and it's like end ethically and like being
now in law school I get a lot of understanding of the um ethos and ether of the craziness of what happened um council is also the name of the trial an is also a lot of mighty things have gone on in
the future and you still you're still here supporting people and loving on people beautiful I see out there doing mighty things there's the mayor still consistently >> but there is a youth that I can a lot of
you guys in here that is just absolutely beautiful Mr. with the park improvement committee which Shannon's not here but that parting committee has done great and mighty things and one thing I'll say is the best is the acceptance of the grant writer I said we need a grant lot writer
when I was applying for parks culture and arts and we've got RPS and a grant writer has brought in over a million dollars or that was a simple conversation so the power of a conversation and the power of showing up mighty we all stumble we all fall as
being a human I chief perfect. >> You're going too far. That's another gentleman back there beautiful. All of you in here, most of you are completely involved with who we are and through the formation of who we are.
Lenny, we have definitely ra my friend and I am very proud to see like the love that you have for our community and how you are constantly countless here for what we need. That's what we need. We need people like that. Kelsey, you are amazing and you just running. We're
going to do amazing. Um, I'm leaving here with peace of mind that operation and now we're just going to go over to the other side and make sure to see if we can build so that we can be together.
Amen. Oh. Oh, I I'm sorry. I am really appreciative of this beautiful. I couldn't see you. It was too too calm for you. I'm so sorry. Don't hurt me.
>> But this is a beautiful soul. >> All right. Councilman Bobby, I'm delighted to extend our deepest appreciation to Councilman Robert in recognition of your dedication and service to our burrow and its residents
from 2023 to 2025. on behalf of THE come to the end of my church. I first want to thank your trust in me. I also want to thank my wife and family for support.
Thank you to all the emergency service volunteers for city to our mayor to all our past and current to our newly elected council members and it's been a privilege working
there will always be critics resurre One of my best quotes says it best. You will never be criticized by someone doing something else. I'd also like to thank all the dedicated
staff for all senior services in our library. Your hard work behind the scenes. I also want to especially thank police chief and his entire department for his leadership has become one of the safest communities in New Jersey. We are
grateful for specialism and dedication. In addition to my council responsibilities, I was proud to serve as leaison to JW the department where I was employed for now
superintendent Michael. It's no surprise that under his leadership with all his dedication work as the Thank you for the opportunity to serve. I wish everyone merry Christmas, happy holidays,
we hope we get on with the meeting, just if you could just give a round of applause to everyone that got on an award tonight. YOU KNOW, UH, Jeremiah talked about volunteerism. It is one of our consistent themes as we always talk about it. We do need people to step up.
We do need people to try and help. You know, of course, you get a few cranks out there, which is okay. And usually my thing is that I have pretty thick skin when it comes to that. And it's like usually the people that are are pranking the most are the ones that are helping
the least. And you know, if we have everybody just pitching in a little bit here or there, you know, we're not going to try and sign you up for like 100 hours a week or anything like that, but anything that we could do to help any of our our volunteer organizations would be
a help. The rescue squad needs help. Fire department needs help. You know, the environmental commission, Claire, she could always find something for you to do. We know that, you know, uh there's there's tons of opportunities for people that want to get want to get involved, you know, and one of the
things that we do need is we need people to, you know, speak up, you know, and the reason I say speak up is because we had our meeting, you know, uh we had the town hall, a lot of people had a lot of good ideas, but that's not the only way.
We actually had a Eddie, you send in a letter, right? You went through a lot of a lot of the things we're talking about tonight because it was one of those where you read it, you say, "Hey, wait a minute. Maybe we missed the trick here. Let's let's review. Let's go back through this because, you know, it's our
intention to do the right thing." And it's and you know, when you have I guess the proper term is active citizenship, you know, for the town, we can move the town in the right direction where we want to go. We're not perfect. We don't
know everything, but there's a lot of people you think who knows different things can actually get the best of all worlds and that's what we're trying to do because we don't want to sit there and just say well that's just the way it is too bad we got to listen you know and that's
what that's what we've really tried to do and I think we've come a long way trying to be vocal and trying to be transparent I mean I certainly think we're a lot more transparent I mean I you know I don't live streaming to say
>> live streaming we have live streaming now. >> How about that? Right. >> Transparent as you can get. >> Sometimes things take, you know, it is government. Sometimes things take a little bit longer. Actually, sometimes they take a lot longer than us guys on the outside would like to see. But, you know, as long as we get to where we want
to get to, like life will be good, you know. Um, you know, Bobby told me that he has he had a quick shot at a at a brief career move just a few seconds ago. So, now he got a lot of hunting that he can do. He has no excuse. Mayor, uh, real quick, we can Bobby have
a picture with his family? I don't know, Jar, if you have anybody here, too. >> They're all working. Thank you, my beautiful family. >> Well, Jar, get want to have a picture with the citation. >> Bobby, get up there. Get your citation. >> And then we'll do Bobby with the family. Yeah. >> Bobby, get over.
>> Just hold it. Hey, wait. >> Got it. Do me one with Jeremiah with the citation. I'm going to hug myself. >> I'll get up there with you. >> They're all serving home. My beautiful
bride is taking care. Thank you to my beautiful bride for taking care of this year. >> That's good. >> All right, guys. Well, that's fun. >> Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
>> Okay, any of you guys that came here for the for the presentations and the citations and the citizenship of the if you want to slip out, this is your big chance. Otherwise, you're here for the duration. >> So, we'll just give it a minute. You guys want to go?
>> You guys staying or going? >> I Sammy, >> not you. Rich, >> you guys have a nice holiday. All right, >> go on a cruise >> like Bermuda.
Okay. >> All right. All right. Moving forward. We have a couple of appointments tonight. I'm going to We'll do them both at once. Uh I'm going to need a motion accepting the resignation of Justine Decker from the film commission and a motion appointing Melissa Zyome as a member of
the film commission. >> Motion. >> Quick. >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? I >> Okay. All right. We have no proclamations, no ordinances for introduction,
no ordinances for public hearing, and final adoption. Adoption of minutes. >> Approval of the November 26th regular and executive meeting minutes. >> Need a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Next. Approval of the
December 3rd town hall special meeting minutes. >> Motion. >> Oh, second. >> Jeremiah. >> Second. >> All right. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> All right. Okay. Let's move on to the uh mayor's
report. Mine is actually going to be a little bit uh lean tonight because I know a lot of the things that I've been discussing and talking about I've been working with uh the administrator on. I know the administrators and they are
going to be uh updating it that for us. Um I did update the uh presentation from the town hall. If it's not up, it should be going up pretty soon. I did send it to these guys just to make sure I didn't miss anything when I when I redid it.
So, I think we're we should be in pretty good shape with that. Um, Lenny, good job with the snow removal. >> I still go to Roselle every day and I got to tell you, you do a wonderful job compared to some of these other towns. And a lot of people don't realize the main streets, you could sit there and
say, "Hey, listen, a lot of the main streets are good, but what what really sets us apart is the side streets." because you go some of these other towns, especially the way it it it it froze, you're stuck. You're never gonna get you're never going to get too far along. Um I did mention
before that we are going to talk about that we are going to talk about the uh master plan amendment for Route 28. That was in response to a couple of things that came up. Uh I I did receive a couple of letters. I did receive one
from uh John Ferman. I did receive one from Ed Johnson and it sparked a conversation and I think it we have a need here to make a to make a change, but that'll be up to the to the council. One last thing,
I do see that we are going to have an executive session tonight. It's going to be a brief one. Action will be taken. It's more of a of a cleanup of a of of a billing issue that we had. And basically
outside of that, I hope everyone has a great holiday. Hope everyone's, you know, um stays safe. It is not that easy. And one of the actually the last thing I did want to say is I did want to uh congrat
congratulate or just voice my appreciation to the DPW and for the police for the handling of of that tragic funeral and and your arrangements to make sure that everyone got transported around safely, the barricades were up. You had a good plan
and it worked. Thank you. >> All right, moving on. Council President Um, thank you, mayor. Uh, I want to congratulate Claire. Thank you, Claire. Um, for all of your efforts and patience with a small municipal government like
ours. Um, I want to congratulate the entire commission. I know some are still here uh in less than two years. That was like March of 24, I think, roughly March or April 24, but you guys have all done a remarkable job. So, thank you for all your efforts. Um, I want to congratulate
all three uh police officers who received promotions tonight. I know they're not here. Daniel, Brandon, and and David, they're all some of our newest uh hires. I thought this year's Winter Wonderland Festival was uh the the best in several years. Uh great weather. It was very,
very, very well attended. Um thank you to all who participated, attended. We had a lot of residents there and also to the volunteers who helped some of which who helped for the entire duration. Um especially our fire department who maintained the bonfire and they did uh
quite a bit other stuff recruiting and some other things as well as our OEM. They were there for the full four hours before and after. Um, I want to thank, he's not here, but our outgoing fire chief, Ken Bartuk, uh,
who I got to know very well over the last two years and who did an excellent job as our fire chief. I'm also I want to congratulate the new incoming fire chief, Shawn Young. Um, I look forward to uh, we all look forward to working with Shawn. That'll be next month.
Thank you, uh, Lenny, and your team at DPW for your persistence and resilience with the bathroom at Mountain View Park. So, um, I know it was installed yesterday. I saw it today. I stopped by on my way home, but it looks great. I know it's not open yet, but looks really
good. Um, I want to again, she's not here, thank Karen Wick in our construction office. uh she along with Matthew Dillingham has been carrying the work most of the workload while Michelle is out. As we close out 2025, I want to thank uh our residents for their
continued support. I want to also thank all of our burough staff, both full-time and we also have a lot of part-time staff um for their hard work during another challenging year. I would also like to thank all of our volunteers who dedicate hours and hours and hours of their free
time to continually make our town better. Um, these folks are our backbone of the town. Thank you to uh Matt and Lenny for the last three months. I know Jeremiah already brought this up, but I thought uh you both are the dream team for us here. Um, in three months you've
gotten a quite a bit done, but we just appreciate your efforts. Okay. Um, thank you to all involved with the winter newsletter. For some that haven't gotten it, it's outside. Um, it's our winner newsletter. Especially Kelsey,
thank you. Came out great. Tomorrow at 6 PM will be the ring ceremony for our high school state championship boys baseball team. It'll be prior to the board of ed meeting at 6 at the high school. I saw pictures of the ring. It's it's really it's our seventh
championship. So, it's uh beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Uh lastly and most importantly, I wanted to thank Councilman Dino and Councilman KS for their support over the last three years as well as their dedication to to to Middle Sex. Uh the three of us ran
together back in 2022. Uh that was an unexpired term for me. Um and then I ended up running a year later with uh Kevin and the mayor. Um but it's been an an interesting and exciting three years. Um,
Councilman KS and and I have endured some good times and bad times, but >> the the good times and the good always prevails. >> Yes. >> Um, we spoke today about some of the joint initiatives that we spearheaded together um including you already
mentioned our parks creating the parks committee and also making the live streaming a reality which took six years. So, the joys of small government, but >> the help of Councilman Quinn back there, too. >> Yes. Yep. And I forgot Martin was here.
Um, so it's been a work in progress and it just kicked off like two months ago. >> But again, almost six years. Um, I look forward to hearing about your next chapter on the board of education representing the burrow and I'm always here to help. I can't wait to see what you do.
Uh, Councilman Dino has been uh the the best I've seen up here so far. Um, and will personally miss him. He will be almost impossible to replace because he really just does it all. I don't know what other way to say it. He rolls up
his sleeves. He puts in the time that's required to move things forward in a small town. He's like Cal Ripken and Pete Rose. I I refuse to I refuse to use a Met. I don't want to He's like Cal Ripken and Pete Rose. Um
he he's just rolled into one. Um just just just gets it done. He's dedicated to making his hometown better each and every day. Uh I stop asking him to run again probably about like a year ago, maybe a little more because I know he's
ready. I know he's ready. He's going to enjoy retirement. Um he's going to spend more time with his family. He's got his granddaughter in Philadelphia. That's priority number one. Um, and obviously he's given back tenfold to his community. Um, and he's really walking
out now on top, which is what we all want to do. Same with you, Jeremiah, as a champion, you know. So, um, you'll be missed. Um, thank you both, Bobby and Jeremiah. I want to wish everyone a merry Christmas, happy new year, and happy holidays. That's it, Mary.
>> All right, Jeremiah. Last one. >> Oh, yay. Thank you for the film commission. Thank you for um um Miss Zyac for joining and and completing up. I'm I'm staying on as the alternative, so I'll still be there to help with
everything um when they need me. Um the arts and culture, Hardock has been doing wonderful things. I know he just came back from India recently, so I know they just had another meeting and they are moving forward with doing a bunch of little programs, getting involved. Um that has been a journey of itself and
that's been wonderful to watch that progress. Um I'm really really incredibly proud of the grant writer and the park improvements, right? Like it's something that we always look up here as a team to figure out how to ratably serve you, right? Without paying
attention to the tax dollars while understanding what's required of us. And it's not easy. It's not easy. You can't you have to be have a wisdom of who you put up here and make sure they're understanding it's not just a good heart. They shouldn't be up here trying to serve you and volunteer you for a
year while learning on the job. They should be ready and it's up to us as a community to get that ready. Um because this is part of what I think what's wrong with America is not everyone really knows what's going on and there's a lot of assumptions and not a lot of talking. um we need to start talking or
start having healthier conversations with each other about what's good for the community and maybe they'll even stop taking all the tax dollars to us and sending it to county and state so we can benefit our own community one day. But who knows? One can live and dream and hope that tax dollars will one day
um be effectively used. But I've seen it and I understand it now. And I'm going on off of my speech a little more because I learned again from again from Mayor Madden. I learned how to just not not stop talking and I love it. I love every part of it. Every part of it I
love. But it's um Mayor again I thank you um for your leadership in Mayor, right? You get you definitely get poo pooed on a lot when you shouldn't be poo pooed on. And that's saying it nicely. I can say poo poo, right? >> You can get away with that one. >> Get away with that one. So, it's
being engaged as a citizen, I think, is the most prepared thing you can do. Like, not just show up when it's a South Park moment and goble rable robble, we're mad. But consistent and constant knowledge education for yourself, for our children, for everybody. You know,
it's something that I hope that will get put into the curriculum of the schools one day where it's civic 101 again, right? And they graduate actually able to serve. Um, I think we won't eventually need lawyers to be in our meetings because we'll all know what we're doing.
>> Heavens, >> but it's like it's like those that's um that's a far-flung dream. That's a dream. But um one request I will make to all of you up here is that lot of land that that is owned by the burrow that's right over across from the American that
we can leave that open to connect eventually to this 50 lot because that is a beautiful walking trail art trail nature center whatever we want to do there. That's a beautiful plot of land that will connect Mountain View into into the radiation area over there that
can mutate you in 4 seconds if you hang out. You know what I mean? Um, updating of signs is something I think we need to do. You know, maybe the blue J sign thing. These are all things that I'm thinking of late, but my ADHD defeated me and I never brought up, but it's a lot being up here. And Councilman
Desenza, you've been amazing to sit next to. I haven't said anything to you, but you're wonderful as well. Yeah. Again, did I miss anybody? Councilman Griggs, you're amazing down there with your glasses on your forehead. I love it. And I'm going shut up. You're amazing in all
aspects of your leadership. You're a shining example of what it is to be a a uh human being and I appreciate that a lot. Mary Smith's Sithness to all of you and may your force be on the right side.
>> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right, Councilman Desenza. >> I'm going to try and keep it short. Um recreation I think the uh winter wonderland held on
December 7th and the tree lighting was an absolute terrific success. I I was overwhelmed by it. I think a special thanks to uh Melissa and our staff, DPW, OEM, fire department, and all the rest
of the burrow employees that supported the event. I think it was truly uh well done. Uh pool meeting is tomorrow. uh which I will attend. Um library I did attend the library uh
board uh council president was unable to attend it. And the one thing I will bring up is the legacy signs. There was some concern um by the chairman of the library board
as to who runs the event and he was a little bit upset. I hope that uh you can get in touch with him and work things out on that. >> Yeah. >> Um merry Christmas, happy new year, happy
Hanukkah, happy Quanza, whatever floats your boat. But uh have a good time. >> That's it. All right, Councilman Dino. >> Unlike Jeremiah, I am I do not like public speaking. As you can see, I barely got through my speech and I
promised myself I'm gonna get through, but didn't get through. But that's fine. That's just who I am. Um, like to thank Claire again and the whole environmental commission. The amount of work that she does is just amazing. I've been involved with half of what she's done and I don't know how she does the rest, but it's
great. Um, Lenny about the storm, great job. It's just unfortunate that there's so many cars still on the roads. It, you know, makes the job harder first of all. And then the following day when it gets ice, people move their car from where they were parked into a good spot and
that spot stays horrible. Happened on my block first time in years. It's I just don't know how we're going to get around it. It's it's it is what it is. Um Jub also Paul Watson does a great job. You guys on this Yeah, everyone on the board
is great. Mike, thanks for the kind words. It's bittersweet for me to leave. It really is. Um I what I do what I am going to miss is seeing Matt and Lenny how how things have changed here. It's it's a different pearl hall. It's it's it's great. So
that part I wish I was staying for, but I will be around. I'm not going anywhere. I've been in this town my whole life and I don't plan on going anywhere. So you'll see me. >> I'll be around. >> Don't worry. We already have plans to volunteer you. >> Yeah. >> But I appreciate everything everyone
does. All the volunteers in this town. It's just it's a great town. I love it. And uh I'm glad I was able to give my time back. People ask why why are you running for council and I said well I raised my family on the bros dime and it's I had to get back a little bit. So
that's where I am. God bless everybody. Happy holidays and stay safe. Thank you. >> All right Dodie. >> I'm up. Okay. I'm going to be boring. I have my reports unfortunately. >> There you go. We're going to keep them short though since everybody took a lot
of time here. Uh we'll do the police first. Uh calls for service 1670 uh 22 adult arrests, 381 summones, which is quite a bit rest of the year. >> Yeah, it's was huge. I don't know what you guys were out there doing, but it
was great. >> Uh 62 radar. There was 24 MV crashes and the National Incident Based Reporting System. there were um eight crimes and two were cleared for the for the month.
Um they're pretty consistent with that. They're usually 35 to 40% by the end of the year. So we still have another month to go. So so far over 20,000 calls to service for you guys. 20,47 and 20,428
to be exact, which is a lot of service. I know the the um detective bureau is actively working on numerous things and it's hard to keep up with them. So if I miss something, let me know.
Okay, fire department. I went to my last meeting with Mr. Bartok as the chief, I believe. I don't think I think he's going to be gone before they're all sworn in. >> Um they had 49 48 calls to service last
month. They are at for the year 496 and we still have this month to go to >> so it's going to be over 500 calls e easily. >> Yes. >> Um they had uh activation
um alarm activation no fire 16 carbon monoxide 2. They had eight gas leaks which heating season this is a big one. um five motor vehicle accident with no injuries and they had seven with
injuries. The the outgoing chief wanted me to express his gratitude to this council and everybody up here that has supported them. You know, it's like everybody, their budget has been
squeezed, but they're doing incredible things with what they're getting. and they're also looking for grants continuously. The incoming chiefs are going to be they're young and they're going to be vibrant and hopefully, you know, keep the ball
rolling for them. I have the court report for November. 395 tickets, 17 parking, 378 moving, 14 DWIs, 33 local ordinance violations. And Ken, I don't know what he's doing down in that
office, but I know Matthew is writing them tickets. And look out. If you call on somebody, you better make sure you have your place squared away. Cuz I've had a couple people call me and go, "What the heck?" I called and he wrote me a violation. I says, "Were you in violation?" And they were
like, "Yeah." I was like, "Well, what are you going to do?" Um, two health tickets, 25 zonings. Okay. The backlog is down to 70%. Which is pretty good because it was pretty stiff for a while. I know Jack, you were
asking about that, Mary. Um, four court sessions, two in person, two virtual, 289 defendants, 331 cases deposed of this month, 11 DWI deposed. Uh, collected this month was 27,97936.
and our portion is 1484629 which is a pretty good penny. I'd also like to say congratulations to Claire. You have done an incredible job out of nowhere. We were less than ground zero
when you talked to me and Jack I think your husband actually coraled us at first and he says you got to wait until my wife comes out and Jack stood there and talked and I did the rest of the street and came back. I'll never forget and it was a 90 degree day. You have been phenomenal and you deserve
everything you've gotten. To all of our volunteers, you have put a lot of time in for this town and I've been here my whole life and this town has lived on volunteers
and it's rewarding. It's frustrating and rewarding. Sitting up here is frustrating and rewarding. Everybody up here can tell you. It just depends which side of the gun you're on that day. And a lot of times we're the ones getting blasted and we make some tough decisions
that we're not always right and we've learned how to backtrack if that's what we need to. That's why we have great administrators now that I'm sure are going to keep us in line and not let us get off track. And the communication has been off the charts and I don't know
what any how anybody else feels. Jeremiah, that was your biggest complaint when I came back a couple years ago. You said, "Nobody talks to you. I listen to you. You were absolutely 100%.
Things have changed. I told you it would take time and it's happened." Correct. >> Correct. >> And you were right. And I got to say that that was Jeremiah when he had some rough patches with everybody up here. was about communication and he just
wanted somebody to talk to, explain things and we become fairly good friends. It's crazy. We've had some great conversations. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> As long as you stay, you guys stay open with the finances. I won't be out there.
>> I like rabble. >> I would like to wish everybody a merry Christmas and a happy new year. And if you can volunteer, our emergency services need you. The fire department, they need people. >> Rescue squad, too. >> The rescue squad is another one that is
just hurting, hurting bad, and we need to volunteer. We don't want to have to pay these things. We won't be able to afford it as a burrow. Merry Christmas, happy new year, Hanukkah, Quanza, whatever you
celebrate. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh good evening. Uh start off with the shade tree commission. Uh basically uh this this last meeting seemed really really good. They're definitely looking at ways to to save costs for the for the burrow and
you know to better help the residents. So that goes a long way. Uh I know they had some discussion about plans for next year and they are waiting on the council's uh feedback on the sidewalk issue. We know that's going on. That means the second Thursday of the month
at 7 pm in this room. Uh about Victor Powell Park. Well, I've been hearing, you know, at my business in town. Is that how awesome it looks and and you know, thank you for everybody that's involved in that. Uh the lights really look great there. Uh just tons of positive comments and it's definitely
making the town stand out. So, great work there. Thanks again to Claire and the environmental commission for just dedication and some great new ideas. It goes a long way to help out and volunteerism is is important in the community. Uh the winter wonderland, I
thought it was a great turnout. Even though it was really cold, there was still a lot of people there, which was which was good. Uh that the selection of vendors and and food trucks was was great and uh definitely brought a sense of community. So appreciate everybody that was involved in that. As far as
zoning and construction department, um been doing a great job this year. Uh definitely see them them stepping up and as Kevin also said, Matthew's just doing a wonderful job and you know not you know not favoring anybody. He's he's doing what he what he's paid to do and
it's it's great to see board of health the the the rabies clinic even though it was canceled this year next year they're starting a voucher program that you can use about a bed of your choice. still working on some final details, but we you know keep they'll keep you posted on
that early next year. Uh it's also wrapping up the first year where we're working with Somerset County instead of Middle Sex. And I I I as well as everyone else on the on the board just sees amazing difference in the reports that we're given and you know and just
support. they they actually seem to care about our town and you know it's great to see their meeting is this this Thursday in the community room at the library at 6:30. Um, finally, uh, just a thanks for
everything that Bob Bob Pino and and Jeremiah have have done for the year that, you know, a lot of great insights and, you know, I've learned a lot from them and they they they helped me along the way and I just appreciate it and, uh, they'll be missed here on the on the
council and looking forward to our new members next year, Jenny Clark and Shannon Quinn. uh should be should be a great change and you know looking forward to positive things for the community. Um that's all I have and have a great holiday. Thank you. >> Okay, before we get to the administrator
report, I just wanted to mention one quick thing. I was waiting for one of these guys to mention it, but these guy um you know, we're very lucky to have the people that we have that really care about the town. And what they do is that they they go the extra step to look out
for we don't want to waste money and we don't want to lose opportunities, you know. And one of the things our aesthetics director uh Mr. Lenny over there managed to slip in a little 24 foot Christmas tree of Victor Cra Park,
you know, with money that would have just frittered away, you know, between the snowflakes and and you know, we're getting back to what, you know, the the mayor of Meridus used to call a Hallmark town, >> you know, so we're trying, you know, we worked hard to get there and it's, you
know, it's not by accident and we're trying to do things with a plan, you know, and and we're listening to what people want And we're going to try, you know, we're going to try and get there. I mean, you know, Bruce, you mentioned like like an electric farm in there,
maybe. Don't know. We got to, but if you don't ask, you don't get. So, we have to try try to do that. And I think uh you know, uh Jeremiah alluded to it and I know that uh that that the chief, you're going to mention something about you know the some of the successes that we've had with grant writing and stuff
like that. So, without further ado, >> thank you, Mayor. As far as the our Lenny and our my administrative report, I wanted to start with snow cleanup and removal. I know um the storm we had Sunday was was a decent amount of snow,
six inches plus cleanup wasn't easy. Lenny was in throughout the whole night. He had we had several conversations. L you have one. >> So yeah, u I really can't take all the credit. I've been working 27 28 years and I
wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my guys. They're the guys that actually away from their families uh day and night. It just so happened we didn't have Sanders on call for that day. Meteorologist got it all wrong.
>> Oh, >> one to three. One to three. >> Said it was to three. It was just going to be light snow just a dust thing. But uh yeah, mayor, we I mean again, we took down about 5,000 gallons of brine on Thursday, get ourselves ready for the Sunday storm
and and we were and I can tell you I'm very proud of my guys and the police department because I was on the phone with them uh probably more than my wife the whole week um in reference to everything that was going on. So um I also want to say thank you for all the support through the years, especially u
Mr. with Jeremiah Barnes because he was on council for the past, you know, two terms and you were a crucial part of me getting a lot of my vehicles as well. So, um I think when Bobby had came on, I have a lot of 20-y old vehicle staff. They were not going to last storms and
we are we as a borrow position right now when it comes to preparedness. So, I do appreciate that. Um but Matt, that's pretty much all I had in reference to the weather. We still had some minor breakdowns that Lena's team was able to repair while they were on the run to to
to get things uh cleaned up and going. Just from a public safety standpoint, I would ask that our residents um our ordinance restricts parking on snow covered streets. We put out information on Nick our social media platforms through the um DPW and police department. just uh you know just
we go out and force that because we just want to make sure that these roads are passable that we can get emergency vehicles um to uh to uh you know the important calls. Brings me to the next thing and we had did have one important call December 10th um you know we need to spotlight or give thanks to our
volunteers. We had a house fire on Grove Avenue. our volunteer firefighters along uh with our mutual aid partners um has demonstrated effectiveness, bravery, and teamwork during the incident. Their um quick and rapid response and coordinated effort, willingness to risk their own
safety prevented further damage, and they saved a family pet while they're out there. So, uh we appreciate them for everything that they do for us. And those are when they when they really, you know, when we say they really earn their their money, that's when we we need them most. When those very
important, very dangerous house fires happen. As a safety message, now is a good time for everyone on council and our residents to test your smoke alarms and discuss a plan of escape with their families. Um, so you have those things just in case, god forbid, um, there's a
problem. Uh with the snow uh pothole reporting uh that first snowfall, we anticipate potholes forming. Residents may report potholes to the Department of Public Works. Lenny has someone who will answer the phone at 7329681603.
Um and uh you know we put start a list together and you have some new equipment coming in. >> I do. I do. Yes. So we are actually taking delivery of the new hot pots. able to hold about four tons of hot material and we had one before
we end. >> So it' be a lot better repair than just cold patch. >> It is. It is. Yes. So um we're taking a look tomorrow. So yes, if any resident has an issue with compos, please contact my office and leave a message, send me an email, whatever the
case may be. We'll make sure we address. >> Thank you. Winter Wonderland Festival. It was touched on. I'll be very brief, but the recreation Middle Sex Recreation 2025 Winter Wonderland Festival was a great success. The event featured food trucks, vendors, activities, performances by local groups, our annual
tree lighting, a visit from Santa and Mrs. Claus. Our director of recreation and senior services, Melissa Marino, and her staff did a fantastic job organizing the event. Estimated attendance was at approximately 2,000 people, which was fantastic. Um, it was it was really
nice. a wonderful day, a wonderful way to kick off our holiday season. Want to also thank our fire department, OEM, uh, Middle Sex County Fire Marshal for, uh, helping throughout the incident, making sure that the bonfire is safe for everybody. It was a really good night had by everyone.
Mountain View Park updates, uh, the Mountain View Park bathroom facility. You want to touch on that? >> Yes, the bathroom was installed. Yes. >> So, all right. We're not there, but yes, the bathroom was installed. >> It's in place. It is in place. >> More smells. So yes, the reason why it
took so much time is obviously because there's a crane involved. It takes longer to set up the train. Um it took them 10 minutes to get over power lines and then they had to communicate with the permit just to shut off
power. So that's really where the disconnect was between them. So we got it. A good installation was was done Monday. U we have video. I'm trying to get a cleaned up version. So I'll probably post something online then. Um but um electrician is looking to show up
tomorrow to tie in and the plumber is looking to have everything taken care of by Tuesday. So I'm not there's still some concrete work that needs to be done. So hopefully the weather plays out supposed to be 50. I'll call Bruce, you know, because he's the only
and he's my Allen Casper. I guess I'm showing my age. Um but um >> I'm I'm going with within the next couple weeks at least. Um we're looking to have that bathroom. Yes, it is going to be open all winter, all year. It has
heat, the whole nine yards. So it's got automatic locks that will coordinate police as well. But uh yeah, we're it's installed. >> So just due to the cold temperatures, the concrete ramp will be poured at a later date and installation and the uh playground equipment and that's done now. >> Yes, you are correct. But there's one
delay on that as well with the uh the rubber surface. >> The rubber surface is the only thing we're waiting on. Uh rubber surface is looking like >> probably spring I would think at this. >> Yes, sir. We there's we missed a So um
and it's not to us weather >> what that transpires with the whole project. But um listen, we're going to do it be done in the spring and then we'll do a ribbon cutting or something together, but it's looking great.
>> Oh, it's it is pretty impressive. That's for sure. >> So, the the unfortunate arson pushed everything back on this project and uh and that all the equipment that was damaged had reordered, resent in, and installed. So, the plan was to have it done before winter, but uh again, I
think it would have been if we were on our regular schedule, but Yeah. Well, my understanding is that the the the material that goes on the ground, you could actually do it now, but it's lot it's uh longevity is
greatly reduced rather than waiting to the spring. So, let's let's let's do it right >> now anyway. You're not going to use it now anyway. >> No, you're older. >> I watched the Christmas story. You plan on going out there and sticking your
tongue to the side of it >> to move on. The Army Corps of Engineers, the installation of fencing around the entire entire project is not going to happen until probably late January. Um that's just uh some protect the areas
that pedestrians shouldn't have. So that's just going to make it a little safer. I think Lenny I know Lenny worked that out with them while they were moving through it. It just looked like it was going to be a problem moving forward. Blue Acres acquisitions in Middle Sex. Following the July 14th,
2025 flooding event, Blueac Acres received approval to utilize state funding for voluntary buyouts of flood packed homes uh due to a surge in applications. On December 15th, Burough received notification from D that a residence located at block 237, lot 14,
which is also known as 122nd Street, um has closed. So, the 2025 property taxes for this residences totals $7,140.32. Lenny and I will keep you updated on in the council um on additional properties acquired through this program. We're
expecting more to come through. >> Yeah, there's at least three, I think. >> Yeah. >> Grant applications. Uh we have Bruno Associates as the burrow's grant writer. Since 2023, we've been working um with mo all the department heads and councils
um with Alexa Reed um the cost annually for their services around $30,000. The burough um the remarkable part is the burrows received been awarded $929,645 in grant funding since that time. Uh grants awarded in 2025 alone totaled
$654,850. And the burrow has grant applications submitted with pending approval in the amount of $6 million $1116,362. We'll see how they fare as far as approval. >> That's amazing. >> It's a remarkable number.
>> Well, if you don't ask, you don't get. >> That's right. >> Uh, as far as notifications, Nixl, the burrow has Nixl that we provide to our residents. They're encouraged to sign up for Nixl alerts and messages. It allows our police department to send important community information directly to residents using
um technology. Notifications may include crime alerts, traffic advisory, safety information, community event announcements. They're delivered by email, text message, uh or on the website through email. Learn more about that. You can go to Middle Sex Police Department's website at www.middlesexp.com.
If there's an emergency, heavy snows, parking issues, it's all put out through NYX. Um, so it's it's just helpful. So I would encourage our residents to sign up for that. Congratulations to Claire Labour on being recognized as citizen of the year. Your dedication to work. Middle sex is a
better place to recognize you and appreciate you for all your work you do for us. Congratulations to Councilman Robert Dino and Jeremiah Kins. As your terms come to a close, I want to thank you for the time, your effort, your steady
commitment that you have given to our town, your service made meaningful difference here and many improvements to our residents benefit today are a result of your hard work. So, thank you both very much for everything you do. Middle Sex is better because you were willing to step up and and serve and that
deserves our recognition and appreciation. So, thank you. Uh just a reminder, Burough Hall will be closed on Friday, December 19th from 12:00 to 2:00 p.m. And uh on behalf of Lenny and I, we want to wish the mayor council and our residents a happy
holidays and a safe, meaningful new year as we welcome 2026. That's our report. >> My report >> and police na. >> All right. Mayor, real quick. Sure. >> Um, one of the, uh, commissioners for
the environmental commission, um, Mike Schneider. He's the co-chair. >> Yeah, he came in after we recognized the commission. Um, I'd like to just recognize you, Mike. Thank you. Um, there is a citation. Claire has it for you, but uh, thank you for
take a picture. >> No, we're not going to make you take a picture. >> We're not Yeah, we're not gonna make you take a picture. U,, >> but I know Mike works hand in hand. Bobby could probably say this better with Claire and the entire commission, but um thank you, Mike, for all your efforts. >> Thanks, Mike.
All right. Anything else? >> All right. I'd like to open I'd like a motion to open up the privilege of the floor. >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Mike's on this side. If you have anything to say, step up.
John, you got to keep it under 30 seconds. >> No, just playing. >> You better tell that to heavy. >> That's for the remarks that I would be making this evening more confrontational than they
should be. information that I received last Friday. I therefore apologize over the fact that I may perhaps be too judgmental in my remarks. I also apologize in advance for reading my letters for my position rather than
extemporaneously doing so would be much more effective and much more characteristic of who I am. I have to realize that I am now 90 years old as a no longer have the same mental acuity that I once possessed with memory needed to ensure that I bring home the various
points that I need to bring to your attention. I was upset over the fact that I had written a letter to the mayor and council and not the courtesy of the response. This is something that I did not understand because I know most of you and I know that even if you disagree with me, you would at least respond to
my comments. The matter of time, this is the background that generated my previous generated my position here today. I know most of you and I believe you are reasonable people volunteering your services at great inconvenience to you
and your families because you have concerns over how this town should be built. I also know that you are cognizant of local laws and regulations and rely heavily on recommendations made to you by thorough professionalists who are highly trained in their specialized professions. However, you have been
elected to your positions and are expected to use common sense. When recommendations from professionals make no sense and defy logic, you are expected to use your best judgment to make an informed and intelligent decision. Use your mind and don't be
intimidated by your professional. common sense dictates that his recommendations made no sense. This I believe is what happened in your dealings with the burough planner and is why and how you reacted to change not only the land development ordinance zoning in but even
the burrow's master plan to prohibit the construction of two family homes on Route 28. In the past, in 1913 when the burrow was first established until 2024 when you amended the master plan, two
family homes were permitted use along the entire length of route 28 and there are many of them on both sides of the east and west roadway leading to the bound. The roadway is called Book Road as it enters the Burlington. The name
changes as it reaches uh the intersection of Green Brook Road. Union Avenue is now the main commercial center in our town, especially since the opening of the shopping center at the corner of Union Avenue and Greenbook Road in the 1960s.
Nearly designating this road as a main commercial thorough town has not basically changed the course of its development. It was and still is a mixture of stores, businesses, and residential homes sitting side by side
and existing harmoniously together. There are and always have been several two family homes located on both sides of this road, and this has never caused any problems in the past. Route 28 is and always has been a hodgepodge. It has
its own unique character. The burrow's attempt to transform it into a commercial fereral service has failed miserably. It is now, never was, and never will be a fully commercial road. And that's okay. We don't need to make drastic changes when it is in fact.
Why then did you, mayor of council, or your predecessors, in case you were not the ones of the governing body when the changes made, decide to drastically change the character of this roadway by banning the construction of two family homes on this roadway? If you are
interested in furthering commercial development in the area, why not ban all residential homes, not just two family homes, but benefit actions? I ask you to answer these questions. Number one, did you do so because your
professional planner suggested that you do so? Number two, did you really think seriously before making this decision? Number three, what were your reasons for doing so? Number four, why after all these years, you suddenly decide to have
the development of two family homes. Not all family homes, just two family homes in this road. And number five, why amend the master plan as well as the Mander ordinance? Isn't this a little overkill? I think that I know the answer to these
questions even though you may not realize why you took this action at this particular time. If I am correct in my assumption as to the rationale behind your decision, then you should agree that we made a hasty very bad decision and you should have
the courage to admit that you did so and should take corrective action to remedy that bad decision. I think we decided to ban the construction of two family homes on Route 28 because you were upset over the
fact that you fist home at the corner of Union Avenue and Orchard Road opposite the Middle Sex Shopping Center across the street from my office and one of the oldest and grandest of the original historic homes in our town was demolished and replaced by three two
family condominium homes. This, I'm sure, was a shock to you as it was to me. I think that aesthetically we all set looked much better than the three two family twotory homes that replaced it. However, if you stop to really
analyze the situation, you'll have to conclude, as I did, that this development of the property is a much better use of the land than what existed previous recently. You, as a governing body, are attempting to get new tax ratles for the burrow. This was accomplished as a result of this
development. Where previously there was one home, now there were three homes. Where the taxes generated from one home were small, the taxes generated by three homes are much higher. This is one reason why this development was a plus
for the town. A second reason proving this development to be a plus for the town is that it has provided much needed affordable housing for the entire country and especially of our region is in need of additional affordable housing units. Having this partial support three
two family homes rather than one old stately home definitely furthers that position and addresses that problem. The third reason is that this development has substantially increased property values in the immediate area where the old home was located. All of the homes
in this immediate area have seen their property values increased substantially as a result of this one sale. So by having this property sold and developed into three two family homes, you have actually furthered three of the
main purposes of those. You have provided much needed additional affordable housing without constructing a garden apartment complex. You have attracted additional tax rate to the burrow and substantially increase the revenue derived from the town as a
result of this development. and you have increased the values of all the properties in the immediate vicinity where you own this property and not only helped these residents in that area by increasing their property values but have also helped the town by increasing the tax revenues that you derived by
increasing the property tax. What was lost by having this property develop as it did? We lost a worn down but beautiful and majestic and graceful old and historic home and land. a definite loss. But in my opinion, the great the
gain is greater than the loss. This is why I'm sure that you voted to prohibit two coming homes and being instructed on Route 28. I understand why you did so, but in retrospect, I think you must realize that you made a poor
decision. Ask yourselves these questions. Number one, why do you not want two family homes to be constructed on Route 28? They are there now. They were there before. They never have been a problem in the past. They bring in
good revenue. They rehabilitate old housing stock. They increase property values throughout the town. What is there that makes it desirable to prohibit their further existence in development in our town? If your desire is to make Route 28 more commercial
character, why not have all residential development along that roadway for a bit? Why limit the restriction only to family? I ask each and every one of you tell me why you think that it is bad to allow
two family homes to be constructed on 28 and you have no objection to allowing one family to be constructed the same road. For the life of me, I can't give even one reason for doing so. And I've tried for a long time to do so. I submit
that you have made a terrible mistake in taking the action that we did in prohibiting the construction of two family homes at Route 28, a mistake that will cost this town a lot of money, the loss of much needed affordable housing, the loss of increase in property values
for many of our residents. Please think of what you or your predecessors may have done and the ordinances were changed. Councils were made with the races so that mistakes could be corrected. People can and do make many mistakes on many occasions. We should
however own up to our mistakes and take corrective action when we realize that we have correct your mistakes. Revise your ordinances. Allow family homes to be instructed on both sides of 28.
Look at Book for example. Union Avenue in Book is lined on both sides of the street with beautiful twostory two family homes, many of which have been converted from residences to businesses or professional offices. Union Avenue
and Do one end of the other beautiful twotory, two family and one of the prettiest streets in the bur. I see no harm whatsoever in allowing two family homes to be built on Union Avenue and I challenge you to be just one good
reason for for closing such a one other matter that I think you should consider when reviewing the land development ordinances of the master plan is to consider allowing row houses to be built in middle six. They are quite popular in Pennsylvania. We have a
need for how affordable housing is and we have an ideal location for such housing to be located. The area on Brook Road opposite the abandoned McDonald's is a perfect spot to construct such housing. The entire block from sixth
street to seventh street fac. The area behind that block is owned by the burrow. That means that the entire block sixth street to seventh street could be developed for row houses. This would supply the town with great tradeable and at the same time provide
much needed affordable housing that people are. So if you decide to review the master plan and ended up or which I recommend, think about allowing rows houses
throughout the world. I also have mayor members of the council pictures of row houses in Pennsylvania. uh because some of you may not be familiar with them and you know what they look like. Uh they really are quite
attractive I think and they are an answer to the affordable housing problem that exists in this area. Uh I also would like to point out that I have Georgia here with me this evening. Uh George is the reason why this whole
thing started. Uh he had applied to uh the zoning board uh last year to uh build a two family house on Union Avenue adjacent to the two family house that he built here a couple years ago. Uh at the
present time, the property that he owns has a small uh house on there that was used as a pest control office and his proposal was to like knock down that house and put up a really nice two
house. Uh the zoning board acted properly in rejecting that variance because it hands were tied. the ordinance provided that it was not a permitted use and the master plan which was adopted
which even controls more than the zoning ordinance really tied up their hands because it said the town doesn't want two family houses on the road that to me is true decision sorry
uh we all make mistakes and a lot of you were not on the council that did uh what I consider to be a terrible miscarriage of justice, but you have the power to correct it. Uh I ask that you review the ordinances,
check again with your planner. Don't understand his rationale saying that homes are a ban use on Union Avenue. uh if he continues to make that same recommendation uh I think you ought to use your heads
and follow your mind but not your not your recommendation so I would like to give you these pictures so that you all have an opportunity to look at them I'll give them to chief you can pass them on to you guys
and I'd like to have George bring to you his pictures tell showing the house that he wants to construct that was denied by zoning board so you can get an idea of how it would improve Union Avenue this >> could can he hold off on that for right now because we do have a workshop on
exactly this tonight I just wanted >> No that's okay like if we do it during the workshop that may that may be handy >> yes again the other thing I would like to do and the DPW for the wonderful job they've done
the history of the club. >> All right. >> All right. Thank you. >> Next. >> Sorry, John. You're out of time. >> Couple things, don't let the mayor intimidate you. There's an advantage to being gracious.
>> I share that with you. >> Yeah, I told him that right before the meeting >> and um Cino, I wish I had a picture with an enduring picture of you holding that reminds me probably going back to back to prom. Okay,
>> you took him to prom. So, Councilman K, closing out of your time on council, one outstanding achievement is your resolute undertaking in seeking input of our residents in so many important projects and initiatives. That's one observation. I think the
overall thing that's just a tremendous thing on your part and you've been consistent with that throughout your term, Councilman Dino, concluding your tenure on the council, your magnum focus has been your astute understanding and participation on our joint landing
support. Again, that's a wonderful thing I've seen consistently. As public servants, you are graciously you graciously have accepted the many demands, challenges, and duties with unwavering commitment and integrity while also collectively making a
positive change in Middle Sex Pearl. Thank you for generously giving your time, energy, compassion, and sacrifice in the service of our community. Thank you. >> Thank Oh, that was fast. >> That was fast.
>> Tricked me a couple questions. Uh last couple of bills I looked at I saw that paid $16,000 plus in August 13,000 which is $30,000.
>> Dave, you can get my bills and look at each entry. If you have specific entries, you can you can estimate No, you can look at my bills. You can you can open my bills. You've done it many times. Any specific entries we can discuss. >> Mayor, can you give a synopsis?
>> Honestly, there's he gets input from a bunch of different people all the time. Um, you know, we did have quite a quite a number of things, you know, around that around that time that were were changes that were being made that we wanted to make sure that we were legally
correct, you know. Um, and I would like to say it was one thing. It was probably a whole bunch of things because we're I mean, unfortunately, Dave, what really if you sit down and do nothing, you spend nothing. But if you're trying to get things done and you
know we're working with you know um contractors, we have we have all kinds of labor contracts coming and and we had a lot we had a lot going on in terms of also, you know, contracts not only for the big
three unions, we also had like uh we we had the the police chief, we had the the DPW, we had the the BA we had to so there was >> intuitively it was probably the BA but I really encourage you Dave you've been very good at this in the past go back
and get the bill look at the entries and come back and ask questions >> I I mean I would I mean this that that's your two-minute synopsis Dave because I would almost guarantee that if you went through that that's going to be the lion share I just think
I think a meeting or two ago I present detailed bills to the bureau. So the two-minute synopsis are unnecessary. You can have the entire documentation review. >> I think you work for us. >> I I'm very honored to do so. I think the reality is that I think it probably was
the BA. But I will provide you tomorrow morning a detailed summary of everything to your email. you can have it and you have it. You'll have it by 10 o'clock tomorrow. >> You know, this is this is really I ask a lot of questions and I think this is really just pretty straightforward
question. I wasn't asking wasn't summary of this. just asking well you know land acquisition just general >> the reality is it's most likely the BA but I will get you a detailed you'll have
>> well I know the labor doesn't have a separate >> to to a certain extent yes I mean there are sometimes there's there's a bit of crossover and then there's also other issues that we contend with which is not sometimes they're environmental
sometimes it's it's It's it's it's case law. Sometimes it's uh when we're trying to push we're trying to get backup for ordinances that we've never done before to try and do them correctly. Some of them are are are advice on
simple things like even tonight like if we're going to talk about you know the the change on 28 that we're we're we're looking at and we sometimes you know for the for most of us what we're really trying to do is we're trying to avoid stepping into a lawsuit and maybe we're
a little overly cautious sometimes but we do ask because we don't want to make a mistake because a mistake especially in today's latigious society. A simple thing could cost you a lot of money and we're trying to avoid that. >> I think that's an acceptable explanation.
>> Well, I mean objecting I'm not objecting, Mr. Bavage. Not objecting at all. I'll get you in the town. >> We have a big problem. Yes. Not at all. >> Nope.
>> It it it the the problem is is that it's a hundred years old. We we we we see problems that are that are cropping up. What's what's piqued my interest a especially at the beginning is the fact
that we have this process that we're running through to try and get out of the you know we have the connection with with uh >> thanks I had plane field on the mind sorry butcataway and we did some rellining but how much of
the relining have we really done how much is it going to cost to really take care of everything that we have here and what really worried me or or just started picking up the conversation is I'm driving down 28 in Lincoln Boulevard and I go over like new new pavement
because we had a water mane break or or something and and the you know when you hear passing comments of hey you think the the water line is bad wait till you see the sewer you got to be a little concerned about it and and I honestly don't know that it's that bad but it's
like it's like driving a car with 500,000 miles on it that you never give an oil change or change the motor. It's going to go. You don't know when. And this was when right he looked at me and he said this road's going to get redone the whole thing. I
said yeah. I said what's the big deal about that? They're going to be trying to equip this road and I said he goes I just saw what's underneath this road and I wonder that was just one assessment you didn't
but you know the message was >> and you know what that's exactly where we're at Dave we just we don't want to kick it down the the can down down the road too much further. I mean, this is a conversation I know that's been kicking around for a while. I mean, it it started with, I think, even back in Ron
Deir's day, if not before that, John Madden, you know, and and and that's when we started with the four-phase sewer plan that we were going over there. And now we're a little further down the road. We see other things happening. We're like, we really have to come up
with a firm plan to do this because we don't want to, you know, it's all fun in games. You can push it all down. It's it's like doing a roof, you know? You don't really get that, wowee, this is great. I'm putting a new roof on the house. I just, you know, you just spent $15,000 and you still have the same house and this, you know, you don't see
anything out of it. And the sewers are like that. And it's all going to be fun and games until the water starts going up instead of down. And we just feel that we have to start getting the ball rolling on what do we do? Let's first assess exactly where we are and then
move on from there on on a plan. that's going to be the most beneficial for the town to keep the residents safe. >> When do you is this like a six month from now thing you'll have some type of plan?
>> Honestly, Dave, it it's it's it's kind of fresh for all of us. I think the one that probably has the the greatest amount of knowledge on is probably Lenny because he's dealt with this. What would you think, Lenny? >> We're working. Good answer. All right. Thank you. Good
answer. It we don't know. I'd like to thank >> all right. Thank you, Paul. >> Okay. Anybody else coming up for another round? John? >> No. >> Oh, good. >> Just kidding. Anybody else?
>> All right. I have a motion to close. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> All right. Very good. All right. New consent agenda. You ready? Resolution 340 20225 authorizing the Middle Sex Bureau Fire Department to donate fire
equipment and gear to the nonprofit organization on Angel's Wings. Resolution 3412025 authorizing the use of competitive contracting to procure information technology management and computer consulting services for computers, programs, peripheral equipment used
throughout the burough. Resolution 342 20225 acknowledging the change in status for certain properties under the senior citizen disabled tax deductions. Resolution 343 2025 acceptance of standing reports. Resolution 344 2025 accepting the resignation of Jennifer
Mercedes as qualified purchasing agent effective December 24th, 2025. Resolution 345 2025 2025 sewer billing waved appeals. Resolution 346, 2022, authorizing the treasurer to remit the condo reimbursements for 2025.
Resolution 347 2025. A resolution authorizing reimbursement of Medicare premiums for certain eligible pensioners under chapter 3 public law 1973, New Jersey Health Benefits Plan. Resolution 348 2025 authorizing the tax collector
to issue tax title lean redemptions for block 229 lot 28. Resolution 3492025 authorizing the purchase of a 2026 Ford Transit 350 passenger van for the Department of Senior and Disabled Services in an amount not to exceed
$71,764.40. Resolution 350 2025 hiring of Francis Deceas of Woodbridge, New Jersey as the qualified purchasing agent for the Burough of Middle Sex at an annual stipen of $6,000 effective January 1st, 2026. Resolution 351-2025,
accepting the resignation of part-time Department of Public Works employee Carlos Gonzalez Martinez. Resolution 352,2025, approval to advance police officer Daniel Guerell to police officer class G at an annual salary of $78,810
effective January 3rd, 2026. Resolution 353 2025, approval to advance police officer Brandon Stout to police officer class H at an annual salary of $71,130 effective January 8th, 2025. Resolution
354, 2025. Approval to advance police officer David Bzinski to police officer class H at an annual salary of $71,30 effective January 8th, 2025. Resolution 355, 2025, 100% disabled veteran. Okay.
Do we need to pull any of these? >> 11. >> The QPA one. >> Yeah. Okay. Any other ones? >> N. >> Okay. All right. I'd like a motion to approve. >> Second. >> All right. Everything except for number
11. All right. Any discussion, guys? >> Yeah. I just want to make a comment about the fire department and that program that they put it in. This is um gear that we can no longer use because state of New Jersey requires you know
sunset on the stuff but there are other places in this world and country that they can reuse this and it's in good shape and that's why they push so hard to get this done and it's quite a bit of equipment that they've been storing so it can help somebody else and hopefully
save a life somewhere else. >> Okay, >> just wanted to make that comment. >> Understood. Anyone else? Call the role, please. >> Council President Conahan, >> yes. >> Councilman K, >> yes. >> Councilman Denza, >> yes. >> Councilman Dino, >> yes. >> Councilman Dodie,
>> yes. >> Councilman Grace, >> yes. >> Okay. Uh, resolution 350 2025. I'd like a motion. A second. >> Second. >> Okay. Uh, >> I just want to uh introduce a gentleman that I've known for over 25
years. I know him to be honest, intelligent, hardworking, intelligent Francis J. Deceas who is the actually the purchasing agent for Bernard's Township at this point in time. >> So, it seems it falls under the category
of I know a guy. >> I know a guy. >> Okay. >> I thought you talking about me. >> All right. Um, >> but I'd like them to say hello. >> Do you want to Do you want to say a quick word?
Uh yes. >> Yeah. Oh, no. No. This is >> Francis New Jersey. Thank you for this opportunity serving. Thank you. All right. Well, we're glad you're coming on board. This is uh it
was an abrupt uh leaving by the one and I'm glad you were available. Um Okay. Anyone else? >> All right. Call the role, please. >> Council President Cunningham, >> yes. >> Councilman Kings, >> yes. >> Councilman Denza, >> yes. >> Councilman Dino, >> yes. >> Councilman Dodie, >> yes. >> Councilman Grace,
>> yes. >> Okay. Non-consent agenda. >> Resolution 356, 2025, pay all claims. >> Motion second. Second. >> All right. Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Council President Conan,
>> yes. >> Councilman K. >> Final. Yes. >> Councilman Denza. >> Yes. >> Councilman Dino? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dodie? >> Yes. >> Councilman Gregs? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. We're going to move on to the agenda workshop item right now. This is the the master plan amendment that we're
looking at for Route 28. This actually was spurred by a couple of of u people speaking up regarding you know some of these things and and you know to Eddie's point basically I did get his letter I did forward it on
and this is why we're having a meeting tonight to try and get an answer on it. Um is to ask the question why did it come about? Um I which I now know and the the the thing is it does seem that they have
a valid point. I know Mike you put some time into into doing this. So if you want to kind of drive the ship and take us through this so we can get come to a conclusion. I'd appreciate it. >> I do. Yeah. I see that some of the some of the folks that brought it up are gone. I'm not sure if they're coming back. But um so a little background
before everybody has the maps. This is from Paul Ricky our planner. Just pull those out. There's three. I have two emails. Um, some of us were involved when we amended the master plan which I think was started in 21, we ended in 22,
but u, I was the chair on the land use board. Uh, Bobby was on and Joe Desenza was on. There's some other f again matter was on, he left. So, at the time, Paul Wasa did a wonderful job. I'm going to read an email that again, he left as
well. um to kind of give a little bit of background on this, but I think based on I talked to Paul Ricky, he's our burrow planner. He's also the land use board planner. Uh he's been the land use board planner for about 15 years in Middle Sex and I think about a dozen years for the
burrow. So, he knows the burrow in and out. He's done the last two master plans for us. Um I spoke to him last night. He sent an email today outlining his recommendation which is actually a good compromise for the area in question from
uh Ed Johnson. So the email from Paul this is a this is a great little summary in reviewing the history and Paul WA just so everyone knows he spoke before is the land use board chair the current chair. Um so there there's Paul. So Paul, I'm
going to read your email, which I think gives a nice little background. Uh, in re in reviewing the history that led to the adoption of the current two family ordinance, it's important to understand the sequence of developmental pressures the community was facing. The process
began with the redevelopment of the Fisk property. Ed already referenced that where an existing single family home was demolished and replaced with three two family structures as intended as rental units. Shortly after the board received an application for a minor subdivision
on Union Avenue located directly besides the Ferris green houses. The application proposed the construction of four additional two family homes. Paul was that Fasipani's property. >> At that time Ferris Green Houses was also listed for sale which raised
legitimate concerns about the long-term development pattern along both Union A and Bound Brook Road. There was a clear possibility that without appropriate regulatory safeguards, these corridors could become dominated by two family dwellings, substantially changing the
density, character, and infrastructure demands of the surrounding neighborhoods. It is my recollection that the issue was discussed during the master plan re-examination process and the 2022 master plan. and Paul is correct. Um, that re-examination report
specifically included a recommendation to prohibit two family homes along that corridor. It is my understanding that these concerns played a significant role in the council's decision to adopt the two family ordinance. The ordinance was intended to ensure responsible growth
and to protect the the community from unintended proliferation of multifamily housing. Based on the requirements set forth in that ordinance, the board subsequently denied an application for a two-f family structure at 423 Union A. And if the governing body wishes to
modify or eliminate the ordinance, that authority rests entirely with the council. Any changes would require formal action at the council level. Paul Wasa, Laneport chair. So Paul's a thousand% correct. It was not only because of the Fisk
property. Um it was in addition to the Fasipani property there was a number of applications. So um those that were involved including myself and Paul Bobby Joe John and and Bob Sher I didn't see Bob back there. So we did we we made
that recommendation. The council adopted the ordinance and from there on out the resident the RT zone resident residential transition zone prohibited two families moving forward. So, bringing this up to Paul Ricky, our
planner, he sent me an email and he'll and I'm going to go over these three maps, but he said, "Mike, per your request, I looked at the use and size of the properties in the burrow's RT district. As shown on the attached maps, the size and use of the properties changed significantly from the northern
and southern portions of the district. So, the portion we're talking about is Route 28 um on the Hazlewood side going from Sheepard A to Greenbrook Road. Okay, that segment which is I don't know close
to a mile. You know, it's probably a little bit under a mile. Uh, as shown on map three, the first 12 properties moving from right I'm sorry, from left to right are significantly smaller in size and width than most
properties to the north. Now, I know everyone can't see it out there, but this is actually So, here is Shepard over here. That's the the Paresi commercial building. And then from there, you'll see literally 12 properties excluding the commercial
building on the corner. There's 11. So there's 11 homes, seven of which are single family, four of which are two family. So a total of 11. Um so he goes through the residential properties consists of seven
single family for two family. Consideration should be given to reszoning the first 12 properties to be more consistent with the existing character of the area which is almost entirely residential. The burough's R60B
district allows single family uses on lots that are 60 foot wide and have 6,000 square feet. Two family uses on lots that are and it also allows for two family uses on lots that are 75 ft wide
with a total of 7500 square ft. These requirements would allow for the existing single family properties to remain, but allows lots that are at least 75 ft wide to have a two family home if they want. I think the R60B
district uses and bulk requirements better align with this area of the burrow. Please note that the one property without a label on map three is a single family. Um, this is a map drawing area that error that I can't
quickly fix. Paul Ricky, so that was our planner who for those that know on the land use side, planning and zoning board, land use board, we rely heavily on not only the attorney but the engineers and the planner. It's a little
different than the governing body here. >> So, they make recommendations. Obviously the board at the time we did uh Paul Wasy your email was spot on with the Fasipani property the Fisk property u we thought there would be a
lot of changes in that on that part of 28 so we recommended to the planner to incorporate that in the master plan >> fasti we did yep and that looked like a small little high school I mean that was like that was a big building. So, uh, but we recommended to Paul Ricky that
this is something that we wanted. Um, he made the change. You know, the board voted on it. We were pretty unanimous if I remember right. So, what Paul's saying now is that section of 28 going from Sheepard uh right past my street, which
is right before John Sullivan's office. So, again, there's 11 homes there. seven single family for two family from Sullivan's office all the way to Green Brook Road would stay as is would uh would would still prohibit two
families. There's a reason why and I agree with uh Paul Ricky as well as the land use board because Beyond's property um the Hoffman property which is Ferris Brothers the Fasipani property they're
huge properties so you can't really tell on this map but they get really wide some of which we also uncovered that uh the zone line cuts right through some of the properties including Beyond and Fast
that go back to Glengarry that zoning line is a big issue. So he said that this this whole exercise we we have to fix that or or the land use board is going to have to fix that. So essentially you have a property owner like Phil Beyond that has
half of his property in the RT zone and the other half is in an R75 which in the in the zoning world is a big issue. So that's a separate something else that we're going to have to contend with. But so the the compromise I think is a good one. And
before I say it, the entire stretch of Bound Brook Road, Route 28, there's only one one area right now that you could put two family homes in, and that's in R60B from Pond Avenue to Smallley Avenue. It's on the Denellan border.
That's it. So that's over near Foxhole, that whole stretch. So there are some, but there's not a lot. That's it. That's the only section allowed right now. We do have a number of two families up and down Route 28, but after we pass that ordinance, you can never you can never
do it again. >> So, if you don't mind, so looking at this map right here, right? >> Yeah. >> The only property it looks to me, >> uh, Jack, hold on, Lenny, could you give um just Paul and Bob and John just one of those? Yeah. So they could see
>> the only the only property that looks like that it could be made into a two family is this one that that has like it looks like a 32 next to it or 33. This one right here. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Because I mean the I don't understand the red line. That's a problem that but
all of these seem to be a little too they're too narrow unless someone owned two of them >> or they'd have to get a variance through the land use board which is tough to do. Well, just looking at the size of the two family houses over here, I don't see how you would even fit it on there. But this one here is is a property. It looks
like maybe >> Yeah. So, if you look up top, guys, map three, that's the one we're looking at on the top. It says map three. That's where you'll see this segment. So, the proposal is or again, I think it's a fair compromise. This portion, which is
literally 11 homes, can be zoned and should be zoned according to our own planner as an R60P zone, >> which is fine. But how do you fix the the the zone the red line? How do you fix that? >> That's a separate issue. Yeah. So, the land use board has to make a recommendation.
>> Well, you would have to do both at once, right? >> You don't have to. >> No. >> No. >> So, the master So, we'd have to uh uh it's a process that goes from the council. We make a recommendation. and the land use board. They open up the master plan, they do a re-exam, they have to go through and look at that.
Then they make a recommendation back to us and then we formally adopt it through an through a ordinance. >> Right. Well, this makes sense, >> but the red wine. Yes. To your point. >> No, not the red I mean I I understand the red line's a whole separate issue, but the the R60B for this section
>> for this section there's no commercial properties. It's all residential. You got a mistake on there. >> Where? >> Grant Avenue. That's Harris Avenue. >> Uh, well, on map three. No, these all say Shepherd.
>> No, no, not Shepherd. Look across from Shepherd. >> Oh, yeah. That's Harris. >> They also spelled Shepherd wrong. I don't know that I And Shepherd spelled wrong, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's definitely Harris. >> So, again, this is a this is a quick thing that Paul Ricky pulled together, but um
>> So, what are the next steps? Well, the next steps is we we amend we have to amend the ordinance. Um, we have to send it back to the land use court. They provide their comments. It comes back to us. We can accept the comments and if we don't
accept the comments, we could do that as well. And then we have to provide them reasons. >> So, we have to at this point we need a consensus to make a resolution to change this ordinance. >> And then the or Yes. And then it goes
back to the landing board. They discuss it and then from there they bring they send a recommendation back to us and we can either accept or deny the the recommendation. >> Okay. So at this point we just need to know is there a
consensus? Do you need more information or you you already >> are there more information? And I'd also like uh Paul and Bob and and also John their s their city members on the land use board including the chair. Um you know what do you guys think now that you see this because you didn't you didn't
have this before. >> Yeah. >> Thanks. Well, it looks to me if I'm looking at this, the only place that's going to be able to put a two family house is right next to two family houses that are already there. >> I I think the only because I've been involved a long time with this as well and I've seen the development of this
and I think it's very fair what was being I think I think that was a very brutal assessment of like their decision. I don't think there's a lot of thought given to the the Jub. But the mayor and ourselves, we've talked about like where Rock A is where these pictures were supposedly from that we
don't have much forest land left. So we're going to talk about row housing and put it there. I think that's a terrible This is understand that. But what are those for? Why did he bring those up? >> No, that's going here. >> No, that's that's the one he wants to put up on number.
>> Yeah. No, no, but that house was >> I understand that. Is that if this going to include the same district and along all along Union A, we're talking about redistricting things. So, as long as that we talking >> I know that house. I understand that councilman. What I'm saying is this is eventually going to expand and he
mentioned there talking about the buying of that abandoned McDonald's in that area over there along Union. Did he not? Am I remember? >> I did. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, like my brain is we don't have much land left. He talked about how we have land right about it. That's That's a forest area that mitigates a lot of water, a lot of erosion. Like we can't
turn that into row housing. >> No, I think he was I think he was talking about the McDonald's. >> Yeah, but that area behind you. >> Oh, he did. But we own it. But >> that would be that would be terrible. >> Yeah, but at at this point we're we're
limiting the conversation to just this. It >> has nothing to do with those houses that they put on there. >> Those with my brain. >> That's just here. This house is here. though that house was already proposed >> for this lot. >> That's right next to me. I recognize where that is because it's right next to
me. So, they're saying like um >> they want to build the same thing on the >> all over the place. >> No, no, the next lot over. That's it. >> Well, I appreciate the Jay Love and your decision to stick by the master plan. I was very involved with it. >> No, no, they had to. Absolutely. >> You have to. But all right. So,
>> let's take a step back for this section right here. Do we have a consensus that we want to modify the ordinance to make this an R60B? Right. >> Yes. Right. >> Yes. >> One. Jeremiah.
>> Yes or no? >> Yes. >> Yes. Two. Three. Four. Five. >> It's a big decision. >> All right. So, >> now we leave this with Chris. >> Uh, we leave it with Chris. Yeah. The ordinance and then it'll go. Yeah. So, it's
>> Do you need this? Listen, right now, Jared, it isn't, but it isn't. You have seven properties. You have seven that are single family, four that are already two family. So, it affects seven properties of which most of them are too
are too narrow. >> Are they 50 foot? >> I agree with what you said because I think they're narrow. >> I that I don't know, Joe. But there's a property that I know you guys >> 60 foot then they could do it. >> Uh, no. 60 single family. 75 is family. That's not 75.
>> Yeah, I'm in a 75 lot. I'm right above it. >> Okay. >> Correct. Correct. >> All right. >> 100%. So, that the variance process, which is a it's a huge hurdle to um but the one thing Ed did bring up and that's something that I didn't think about when
I was on the land use board and zoning and planning for a lot of years, which was the financial impact. I really didn't. >> Right. >> So, I looked at property by property. that one property by example is a rundown old pest control place which looks horrible >> right
>> um plus the the the revenue portion on the land use board we don't get into that >> no >> up here that's a pretty big >> you know my feeling on redevelopment so >> so we just talked about losing a a house for 7200 on second street we can
actually upgrade possibly a house on Route 28 and double the tax revenue and make up That's kind of where my head's at being up here. Now, >> listen, for all the things that we're doing, this is when we're talking about redevelopment. We just got to be smart about what we're doing. Look for
opportunities. I mean, obviously something like that next to two other ones that are just like it. It's not like you're putting in the Eiffel Tower next to anything like that. It's it's it fits. So, >> remember, we've also made changes over the last couple of months about our apartment sizes.
>> Correct. We've also done that purposely to reattract attention to development when four or five years ago we took the opposite states, >> right? We were we were pretty unfriendly to developers. Now we're trying to get So at this point, just hang on one
second, guys. Here's what we're going to do. Uh, I'm going to close the agenda workshop item because if people have questions and we're having a conversation about this anyway, why don't we go to the move to the privilege of the floor on the agenda workshop items?
>> Motion motion second. All in favor? I >> Sorry, John. You got to get over to the mic. >> Doesn't Are you sure? >> Take a look, but we want to make sure you're on camera. >> You're a politician. pretend. >> Anyway, considerations. I mean, I think
um I would feel better. The prime thing, yes, we do need the revenue. That's a prime mover. Um is it going to change the characteristic of the neighborhood in that that short section? Probably not. However, we got to look at a bunch of things. We got to look at infrastructure by, you know, with the
two families. We got to look at parking. Um we got to look at a bunch of stuff. Now the reason why I'm a little bit have concern is that we eliminated the lot line u because it was mentioned about row houses which similar to a lot line
development. So what comes next with density if we go that I think it's a good idea that we uh consider that strongly but we have to look at these other issues and have a couple questions for Paul Ricky that who he's not here tonight that I think are would be prudent to discuss that with our joint
language. >> I think when it goes to the joint land use it be perfect for the mayor's representative to bring up those points. >> There you go. >> All right. Anybody else? All right. Motion to close. >> Motion. >> Motion.
>> Second. All right. All right. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. We do h have an executive session tonight and we are probably going to take some action, but it should be quick. >> Resolution 357 2025. Executive session.
>> Need a motion. Second. >> Second. >> Uh, call the role, please. >> Council President Conahan, >> yes. >> Councilman K, >> yes. >> Councilman Denza, yes. >> Councilman Dino, >> yes. >> Councilman Dodie, >> yes. >> Councilman Grace, >> yes. All right, guys. Two minutes. >> Mayor, real quick, Claire, um, did you
see that email about the letterhead, the draft? Are you good with her? >> You want to put your name on there or put >> uh either way. It doesn't matter. I can put it on. Which what's going to be quicker and easier for us to get >> the new council people info from the numbers? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I got probably easier. Should you invite them to the executive side? No. No. Hey.