Okay, we have a lot of stuff going on tonight. All right, roll call, please. Mayor >> Ma >> here. Council President Conahan >> here. Councilman K >> pres. >> Councilman Despenza >> present. >> Councilman Dino >> here. >> Councilman Dodie >> here.
>> Councilman Greg. >> Administrator. >> Bur attorney Corsini >> here. >> Okay. All right. We're going to do this by resolution order first. All right. Resolution 252 >> promoting Lieutenant Thomas Carol to the rank of captain effective September 23rd
2025 at an annual salary of $1,600 I can't speak $167,389. >> Okay, I need a motion. I need a second. Any discussion? >> No discussion. Call the role, please. >> Council President Conan, yes. >> Councilman Kin, yes. >> Councilman Denza, yes. >> Councilman Dodie, yes.
>> Councilman Dino, yes. Okay, guys. What I'm going to do is I'm going to read the three resolutions first and then I'll swear you in. Okay. Thank you. All right. Next resolution. Resolution 253, 2025, promoting
Lieutenant Thomas Faulk to the cap to the rank of captain effective September 30 September 23rd, 2025 at an annual salary of $167,389. >> Okay. I need a motion. >> Motion >> and a second. Any discussion?
>> Call the role, please. >> Council President Conahan, >> yes. >> Councilman K, >> yes. >> Councilman Denza, >> yes. >> Councilman Dino, >> yes. >> Councilman Dodie, >> yes. >> Councilman Griggs, >> yes. >> Okay. Lastly, >> resolution 254 2025 promoting Sergeant
Sha Flanigan to the rank of lieutenant effective September 23rd, 2025 at an annual salary of $153,568. >> Motion. >> Second. Okay. Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Council President Cunningham? >> Yes.
>> Councilman Kim? >> Yes. >> Councilman Despenza? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dino? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dodie? >> Yes. >> Councilman Griggs? >> Yes. >> Okay. I'm going to do this in the order that I have it stapled on here. So, that makes it easy for me not to get it out of
order and forget anybody. All right. I just want to do a little career biography for these three uh dapper looking gentlemen here. They can clean up. Well, right. Captain Thomas Wall graduated from Kain University in May of 2000 with
a Bachelor of Arts degree in English education. He was appointed to the police department on July 18th, 2005 and has served with the Middle Sex Police Department for 20 years. Captain Faulk has been assigned to the patrol vision, patrol division as an officer and a
supervisor, the community policing unit, the bicycle unit, the detective bureau as a detective and supervisor, and as the administration division commander. Captain Fork has attended many specialized training courses, including graduation from the two 291st session of
the prestigious FBI National Academy, the New Jersey State Association of Chief of Police Command and Leadership Academy, where he is now an instructor, as well as many other trainings and certifications across his career. Captain Faulk has received many awards
and commendations, including two certificates of commendation, the NJ DWI Top Gun Award, two distinguished service awards from Mothers Against Drunk Driving, three life saving awards, four unicipation awards, the 200 Club of
Middle Sex County meritorious service award, a meritorious service award from the Burough of Middle Sex, and an honorable service award. Captain Faulk will serve as the administration division commander where he oversees internal affairs and professional
standards, administrative operations, police licensing, accreditation and training, as well as the investigations division, which includes the detective bureau and the records and services bureau. What are you going to do in your spare time?
Come on over. It grew up. Okay, you guys ready? >> I I Thomas Paul do solemnly swear. I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. That I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of
the State of New Jersey. Constitution of the state of New Jersey that I will bear true faith that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and the governments established in the United States and in this state and in this
state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully impartially and justly and that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform all the duties of captain of police perform all the duties of captain Hopefully.
According to the best of my ability, so help me God. According to the best of my ability, so help me God. Congratulations. All right, guys. Why don't you hang for a minute? Let's make sure you guys get the proper pictures going while you guys are up here. >> Congratulations.
>> Sorry. >> You're the only one not in the picture. outside. Good. All right, moving on. Captain Thomas J. Carol. Captain Thomas J. Carol graduated from
I'd be anxious, stupid, don't from Montlair State University in August 2003 with a bachelor of arts in political science. He was appointed to the police department on January 7th, 2004 and has served with the Middle Sex Police Department for 21 years. Captain
Carl has been assigned to patrol division patrol division as an officer and a supervisor, the detective bureau as a detective, supervisor, and investigations division commander, and as the patrol division commander. Captain Carroll has attended many
specialized training courses, including graduation from the 290th session of the prestigious FBI National Academy, the New Jersey State Association of Chiefs of Police Command and Leadership Academy, as well as many other trainings
and certifications across his career. Captain Carol has received many awards and commendations, including four certificate, four certificates of accommodation, the New Jersey DWI Top Gun Award, three life-saving awards, four unit citation awards, the 200 Club
of Middle Sex County Valor Award, and two meritorious service awards and an honorable service award. Captain Carol will serve as the patrol division commander where he oversees all operations of the largest division of the police department as well as the
traffic safety unit, community policing unit, and the bicycle unit. Congratulations. Come on up. hand right hand up. Ready? >> Ready. >> All right. I >> I Thomas Carol >> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear
>> that I will support the Constitution of the United States. >> I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. that I will bear true faith >> that I will bear true faith >> and allegiance to the same. >> and and allegiance to the same.
>> and to the governments established in the United States and to the government established in the United States and in this state >> and in this state under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully impartially and justly and I will faithfully impartially
and justly perform all the duties of captain of police perform all the duties of captain of police according to the best of my ability. So help me God according to the best of my ability. So help me God. Congratulations. Congratulations. Okay.
>> Oh, there you are. Congratulations. Congratulations. Okay, last but not least over there. He's getting ready. That's okay. All right. Lieutenant Sean Flanigan graduated from the College of New Jersey in May 2010 with a Bachelor
of Arts degree in journalism and professional writing. He was appointed to the police department on July 10th, 2012. Upon comp upon completion of his basic training, he was assigned to the patrol division. Lieutenant Flanigan was assigned to the detective bureau between
March 2016 and September 2021. During that time, he conducted criminal investigations as well as firearms and employment background investigations. Lieutenant Flanigan oversaw Megan's law registrance, ABC inspections, and the buildings and ground functions.
Lieutenant Flanigan serves as a social media coordinator and assistant public information officer. Lieutenant Flanigan served as both our primary and alternate evidence custodian. Lieutenant Flanigan serves as the liazison to the Middle Sex Burrow School District as well as an
assistant accreditation manager, resiliency program officer and trainer and a nasal Narcan instructor. Throughout his 12 years of service in Middle Sex, Lieutenant Flanigan has been recognized with numerous awards and commendations, including honorable
service medal, two life-saving resuscitation awards, three unit citation awards, two certificates of commendation, and three perfect attendance commenations. Lieutenant Flanigan serves as the detective bureau supervisor and will lead that division,
overseeing all investigations operations as well as the records and services bureau. Congratulations. Come on. All right. And there's an awful lot of estrogen there. Okay. Right.
Put my hand on the button. Put my hand in the air. Okay. Ready? Okay. I I Sean Flanigan do solemnly swear >> Do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New
Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. >> That I will bear true faith that I will bear true faith >> and allegiance to the same >> and allegiance to the same. Just like my and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments established in the United States
>> and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and partially and justly and that I will faithfully, partially, justly perform all the duties of lieutenant perform all the duties of lieutenant according to the best of my
ability. So help me God. according to the best of my ability. So help me God. Congratulations. You guys All right, you guys got one more thing to wait for when we go to the next job here. Got to get the gang real quick.
Can you get him in there? >> Yeah. You good? You know, it always leaves me with a warm feeling when I know that that Middle Sex is in a good spot. And you guys are another reason why we're going to be in a great spot. Thank you very much for all your service. All the rest
of you guys that are out here that came to support him. We appreciate all the things that you do for us. Uh gee, I want to say a few words. Yeah, I just want to thank the mayor and council for approving and and getting these promotions accomplished for the police department. It's going to help us provide better services and gives us a
much better structure on the police department. And uh I want to congratulate both the captains and lieutenant on and your families um for a job well done. It's a fantast fantastic accomplishment. and I really look forward to seeing some great accomplishments from these three men. So, congratulations.
>> Typically, at this point, I would say this is your big chance to sneak on out of here. >> But we have one more thing that we have to accomplish tonight. And uh Mike, if you give me a hand here, we have one of our Pillars of Middle Sex awards. And I
couldn't be prouder because I've known this guy for many a moon because his daughter and my daughter have known each other way too long. This is what it comes down to. Um Lee Wandle, come on up. Congratulations.
You have to read this one. Okay. Whereas the governing body at Bur Burough Middle Sex recognizes that in order for a community to thrive and succeed, they must rely on service and support of its residents. And whereas the wisdom, history, commitment, and passion that so many of our residents
exhibit and extend to their neighbors in the burrow makes them pillars of our community. And whereas it is in the spirit that mayoric would like to honor and recognize individuals throughout the community who have made exceptional contributions to the burrow of Middle Sex. And whereas throughout the years,
Zeke Commando has consistently demonstrated praiseworthy service and unprecedented commitment to the burough and its residents by being an irreplaceable asset to the office of emergency management, to the fire police, and to the community as a whole.
And whereas lethal handle has been a member of the office of emergency management for over 19 years which he has been serving as the deputy coordinator for three years during which he has complete completed many safety training courses including the SER
program which educates about disaster uh preparedness and whereas Lee Wandle has shared knowledge and safety training with the residents of Middle Sex Burrow he has assisted in supporting Burough during numerous natural disasters and emergencies.
as well as help develop and lead an OEM team cadet program giving teams a chance to be involved in the community and learn important skills. And whereas in addition to volunteering for many years in the office of emergency management management, Lee Lando has volunteered his time working
with the fire and police from 2011 till today and the Middle Sex Burough Swim Pool Commission since 2006. And whereas Lee Bandel has devoted his life to ensuring the safety of others through volunteer service, which is the backbone of the community, ensuring the
future of Middle Sex, thus allowing the burrow to thrive and succeed. And whereas Lee Poandal has displayed exemplary service and dedication to the municipality by integrating himself within the burrow as a vital part of our community. And now therefore, John
Miguel, mayor of the burrow of Middle Sex State, New Jersey, along with the Middle Sex Burough Council, and on behalf of the residents of Middle Sex Burrow, we wish to thank Lee Wandle for all his dedication, sacrifice, and labor to our community.
Adopted September 23rd, 2025. That's it. >> Only 27 pages. >> Well, I have to say I'm truly honored the and uh actually a little overwhelmed to be received the pillar of community
award tonight. To be recognized by your mayor and council in this way is incredibly humbling and I want to thank each of you from the bottom of my heart. All of Thank you. This award isn't just about me. It's about the amazing teams I
get to work with every day. It's about the It's about the OEM crew second to none when it comes to keeping emergency man or the p the burrow of Middle Sex safe. The pool commission pours their energy
into keeping the pool the gem of the community and the fire police dedication to supporting the the fire department is inspiring. I wouldn't be standing here today if it wasn't for all of that.
I feel lucky to live in a town that doesn't just talk about the value of community service and lives in Middle Sex gives people like me the chance to step up, get involved, and to grow. It's a place where volunteering is not
only welcome, it's truly appreciated. So, thanks. Thank you again to the mayor, to the council, and to everyone who makes Middle Sex such a special place to call home. Your word means more to me than I could
put into words. And now you got to go take photo organized here. >> One more. All right. Someone hold this. There we go. Okay, now they can skip out. Now you
guys can skip out. Okay, >> don't disrupt the meeting, John. Okay. It's always a good thing when we have pillars going, right? >> It's always said, "Huh?" >> Well, you walked over there. What' you think was going to happen?
>> I was talking to a lawyer. All right, we're moving on, guys. Let's go. Uh, let's start with ordinances for introduction. Ordinance 215625 an ordinance amending chapter 86 of the municipal code of the bureau of Middle Sex to clarify certain provisions thereof.
>> Okay. Can I have a motion? >> Motion. Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I need a roll call though, don't I? >> Yes. >> Roll call. >> Council President Conahan. >> Yes. >> Councilman K. >> Yes. >> Councilman Denza. >> Yes. >> Councilman Dino? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dodie? >> Yes. >> Councilman Griggs?
>> Yes. >> Okay. Good to see some of the potential or future film committee people here. Thank you for coming. All right, let's uh there are no ordinances for public hearing and final adoption. Adoption of minutes. >> Approval of the August 19th, 2025
regular and executive meeting minutes. >> Motion. Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay, let's go now to the mayor's report. All right, it's a little quiet in here tonight, which is actually probably a good thing. Um, I just wanted
to say thank you to Shirley for um, another excellent 9/11 event. It was uh, well attended. I felt the weather held up. We didn't get we didn't freeze to death. We didn't get rained on. And Lenny, the park looked great. Thank you. Appreciate that. Nice flags. Good touch.
Just throwing it out there. All right. Okay. Uh, one of the other things that I have on here is that I think at times, uh, you know, some people call up and you look online, you see people complaining about noise, this, that, and the other thing. A lot of these things
are actually handled basically through the state of New Jersey. And if you go online, there's, you know, it's actually the Department of Environmental Protection, Compliance, and Enforcement, noise control. You follow it down, tells
you where to go, who to talk to. There's actually a noise control council that meets the second Tuesday of each month. There's a link that you could actually call to be heard. You know, you can get on the agenda. And uh, interestingly
enough, I I went I I was reading through this and, you know, they talk about a lot of different things. It would probably be in terms of middle sex, something new. The last uh thing that I saw that they were talking about there was like loud mufflers, you know, and
stuff like that. But I I think some of the other noise issues here is something that could certainly be brought up and then they could either work on it or move it forward cuz they do make recommendations. Uh, interestingly enough, one of the members that was on
here is is the guy that came to uh my company as an ocean inspector. So, they got some high up guys. They know the rules. I was surprised when I saw the name. I was like, I know that guy. All right. Also, they were talking about smelting. I saw
online. Once again, Department of Environmental Protection compliance and enforcement, air compliance and enforcement. What we do provide oversight for stack emission testing. Provides compliance assistance.
investigates complaints. That's their job. All right. They have on there, they have all kinds of numbers and places you can call to to to get on this. I mean, I'm I'm just mentioning
these things because this is information that is out there. You got to do a little digging. It's not easy to get to. And also right here, you know, I I scroll down a little bit. It gives you a mailing address, a website, phone number, fax number, who the people are,
and phone numbers on how to get a hold of them. So, this is something that can also be talked to. Uh, one of the other things that was out there, the world famous class 3s, all right, the class
3s, all right, they had a meeting with Chief Gist on September 11th. All right. Chief G met with with the superintendent, Roberta, and basically the the the charge was after that their attorney was
going to reach out to our attorney. This one will cost you a dollar. He was contacted. I was right. Uh Chris, you want to give us an update? >> Oh, just I've been in contact with um the school board um school board Irish Schneider. Uh the burrow and the burough
council has always been on top of this. uh we finally have some some feedback and a path forward that the attorney and I have worked out. Um I will make some amendments to the agreement um based on feedback we received finally. Um and we will proceed with a new draft that will
be transmitted to the school board and it will be back in their court. Mayor, >> when do you think the the ball the pickle ball is going to be passed over? >> I think this week. >> This week? >> I think this week. Yes. >> Okay. Very good. Uh >> mayor. >> Yes. >> Ask Chris a question. >> Sure. >> Sure. Chris, now are we still talking three? Are we talking about
>> three is what they've three is what we're talking and I think that remains so chief based on my discussions and I think yours too. >> I believe that's just the start of the program. >> Original proposal had five and then when you reop start >> Yeah. So we'll start with 3. Y that will
take some time to hire as well. I mean it might be one. The intention is to bring it up to three as soon as possible. Right, Chief? >> And then and then we'll look at the program after a year I think. And then hopefully I mean the idea is for five eventually. I mean we've said that all that's been our recommendation.
I don't want to talk on on behalf but I know that's been the chief's recommendation from day one is if we're going to do this we should have five. >> Okay. But it's going to take a while. Go ahead. >> I know our intention up here is five. I don't know if the school now how do we decide where the three are going out of
the five schools operation will sit down once we have a set understand exactly we're going to get push the officers where everything and have them uh not be
said yeah we're going to have them go and and visit schools and be a part of every uh community school Okay. Um, the last thing that I have on here is for for my notes is that I do
have on here personal. If you see under executive session, personnel, internet administrator, um, I'm not really at liberty to talk about anything here. There are certain legalities that have to work themselves out. So, if you're thinking about asking a question about it, don't. The only
thing I can suggest for the short term is that a memo did go out to the staff of saying that in the in the short term anything that would normally go to the business administrator Michael Place please forward on a daily basis to Chief
Gist and more details will come available when they come available. And that's all I have at this point. Uh Mike, >> thank you mayor. Uh several things I wanted to go over. I
I did want to uh mention which I initially forgot but um some of us got an email from from telly TK1 uh this past Sunday. Uh you've heard about the fact that we're trying to stream our meetings from here. We didn't
have the right equipment and unfortunately there was a delay on the camera and uh the camera is due to be delivered to our vendor by uh September 30th. He then said, "We'll have the remaining items in place and get the install done as soon as the camera arrives." So, we're hoping the first
week or two of October. It's been a long time coming. Um, but again, I wanted to update everybody on that. >> Um, I also wanted to congratulate both of our new captains. I wish they were still here, but Captain Carol and Captain Faulk, very welld deserved. I want to
also congratulate uh Sean Flanigan, our newest lieutenant. Um, very welld deserved. I wish Lee was here. Wanted to congratulate uh Lee again. Um based on all those years, he's been a great example as a dedicated volunteer. I've known Lee for a long time. Um he's
probably donated thousands of hours to both the OEM, fire police, and the swim pool. And he's almost 20 years on the swim pool. And uh the swim pool requires a lot of time for for some of us that have been a liazison. So thousands of
hours. Uh I wanted to thank you thankfully but unfortunately left but uh regarding the library due to the start of the rebuild construction remember in July the community room was was partially flooded out. >> Um that room is unavailable from today
until approximately October 6th if you want to say maybe the 8th 9th or 10th but that's you know the the work is on on track. Uh, I want to commend the fire department for the food truck festival this past Saturday. I saw um a lot of
folks here in this room attended. The weather was fantastic. Um, I want to thank all the residents who attended and supported it. It was obviously a fundraiser for the all volunteer fire department. It's they're trying to replace the carnival and this was a very
very good starting point. Um, I also want to I I want to acknowledge a lot of the teamwork between a lot of our burrow departments. Uh, the police, DPW, um, OEM,
the rescue squad, all were in attendance and helped throughout the whole day. Um, and I wanted to commend Chief Bart, our fire chief. Um, he had a big hand in obviously pulling the whole thing together. I want to again thank I know she left Shirley Penrose for 911. She's done it
every year since its inception and uh it was a it was you know we had great weather and great attendance this year. Um I want to thank our new full-time zoding and code enforcement Matthew Dillingham. He's gotten off to a fast start and he's only about uh 11 days in
to his job. First time ever we've had a full-time zoning officer. I want to say um a big thank you to Karen Wick. For those who know, we have two folks in the construction office, Karen's construction and zoning. She's been here for many years. She's doing her job plus
Michelle's job who's out for medical. Um, and I I you know, I don't know how she's doing it. So, some others here are pitching in. I think folks from uh the finance team, from the clerk's department, but again, it's a true team effort. Um, and then I have one more
thing. I want to get a consensus uh tonight. I want to start the process of weight restricting Mount Avenue. Um, now that South Avenue, South Lincoln Avenue is open, the process is this. It requires that we submit the burl submits
a certification report to the NJ DOT. In the old days, we would just weight restrict. That was it. Now, there's a there's a process for any street or road, right, Glenn? >> For the whole for the whole burrow. So what we have to do is uh we have to submit a certification report to DOT.
This certification must be completed by our burough engineer. So Tom Harris will work on this. He'll submit it to the NJ DOT for their review. And you know obviously at that point they'll they'll review it. They'll either approve it or they won't. So that's the process. Mayor.
>> Yeah. Just a quick question. Is it is it a good idea really to do this now or wait until after they finished the the flood wall on 28? Well, I I didn't want to. So, I thought about that, mayor, and I I've received I know others up here have received numerous complaints from residents on or near they live on or
near mountain. The truck traffic, commercial traffic is is worse than ever. I'm sure the chief can attest to this. U even coming out of here, coming out of the police department, it's tough to even get on mountain. It's brutal. Now, that's after South Lincoln, and I'm
talking commercial traffic. You're right, Mayor. could be the possibility of that, but I'm trying to prevent Mountain Avenue has been paved like eight years ago, >> seven years. >> It looks like it's been 30 years. That's what I'm trying to prevent.
So, by doing this, I think it also puts additional pressure on the Army Corps, which has not been a great partner for us at all, um to look at other alternatives or before this process finishes, mayor, to get what they need to get done. We can't afford to have South Lincoln closed for
another two years. Yes, of course. >> I just I agree. Gotta ask the question. >> Yep. Yep. Uh so consensus up here. Again, the engineer will write a report and send it to DOT. It's up to them. >> They'll send it back and then then we have to either do it or we don't. But
the first step is the >> Kenny. >> I think it's a good idea, >> Bobby. >> Yep. >> Good. >> Three. >> Four. John. >> Six. Yep. >> All right. Good. Thank you. That's it, Mayor. Go ahead. >> Okay. Councilman KS.
>> Hello. Um for the board of education, I just want to, you know, commend um Chief Chief Gist, not in general just for what he does for our community, but for ensuring the safety that our kids, you know, the thorough, heartfelt, um everything that goes into protecting
them. Thank you for everything that you have done for them. Um and you have been diligent. Thank you, mayor, again for communicating well with the board of ed as well. It's vital for us to support them in this manner in our world and to keep our children safe. It's it matters a lot. And on the other end of the
spectrum, we have a senior messenger board coming out where they're going and getting a few a few more um awesome events happening down like Halloween's coming on. You check out the senior messenger. You go down there, go
to a whole Yeah, there's just there's a plethora of events to do for senior well organized and run. So there's if you're looking for something to do, go on check it out. Um the film committee has commission has been all over the place as we know we're
introducing it. It's been up and down, sideways, left and right. It's been its own film of itself. And so thank you for everybody up here for your your patience and your time and your understanding as we have looked for not only a new opportunity for our burough to expand um
our horizons and what's coming to our state. We know that filming is becoming more serious and we're the third largest that's going to be in in our country. This is a true opportunity for us to give the apparent public of being of being ready, right? And um I'm excited because leadership is coming into role.
Um, we have our parks looking good. Everything's starting to get up. We have the organization rolling, rocking and rolling. We have the support. We have um three of the of the hopefully soon um commission members that are sitting out in the
audience showing, you know, like they're excited as well to be here. So, it's Jonathan, Joseph, and Justine. And they're pumped. They have their unique experience to uh to make this just pretty much rocket off and be amazing. So that's exciting. So thank you you
three beautiful souls for being here and being willing to serve your community. Um we'll go to uh the culture the culture and arts which is Mr. Shaw. He is organizing rocking and rolling getting things done
as well. Um just doing doing what he does best serving his community as well as and disable senior film community something. Oh, we've had a crazy um week, but I talked to the
uh council president a little bit and I sent an email to you, Chris, but I know it's been a while, but I wanted to see how we felt about dedicating that spot of land that's in between Park Apartments and the flood wall to a um we have to wait obviously. We don't know
what's going to be built there. And the purpose of that for a long time has been um in my vision and vision of trying to pitch for it uh to be a aesthetically pleasing spot so we can either form a education center or a education a nature
education and art center and so I don't know if we can plans can all that stuff can come down later down the road that's all things but I don't want that to get skipped up on because the the location of that is key. So once everything's done, it can connect all the way into
Mountain View Park and all the way back once the land that's over here once it's finally healed up, it can connect there. So it's a good piece of property for our public to have trails and other future for it. So if we can just get it, you say like dedicated or something. I don't
know how that would work. >> I replied to the question. >> Okay. I didn't I missed it then. So totally >> and then I expect we'll have a colony of other questions. Perfect. So, so that's now well now you understand that's where I just know there's been a lot going on.
So that's >> Yes. I'm done. >> You're done. Okay. What is your >> I was just waiting because that's all right. All right. Councilman Desanza. >> Yes. We're not going to talk too much more about the roof.
We're going to let it be uh for financial reasons. um they don't use it now until next July anyway. So we can make a they can make a decision u early next year, middle of next year on what they want to do. We
had a couple of interesting uh alternatives. Uh Lenny came up with the idea of putting a canvas like a pergola over it instead of replacing the whole roof to keep the rain out. So, and that would hold cost us a whole lot less than
putting a whole new roof on. So, they're still looking into it and um they'll make a decision in the spring. >> Okay. >> Parks Suburban is to finalize their program at the next meeting scheduled for October 7th. I'm not sure if I can
hear >> here. It's in this room. >> Scheduled to here meeting there should be one in October. they didn't have one in uh in September. Uh I also want to congratulate the uh fire department on a great effort that I
hope it continues and it stands in the future. I thought it was a great day. I think the weather had a little bit to do with that. Also, I don't think we could have asked for a better day. And 911 24 years Shirley Penrose has been running that.
And uh I was happy to see this year we had two bandpers instead of one and one an old friend from town. U and we have a I'm going to make a suggestion to her for next year. We have a soloist who can
sing a capelico to sing the uh national anthem. >> That's all I have. >> All right. Thank you, Councilman Dino. >> Yeah. For Jay Love, the meeting had to be cancelled for 9:24. Our next meeting is October 8th at 7:00 p.m. for all. For
the environmental, this past Saturday, there was a cleanup at Vid Simmons Park. There were about 30 volunteers and approximately 1100 lb of trash was removed. So that's also some of the events were environmental. On Saturday, September 27th from 10 to 12 at the library, there
will be a film titled Treekeepers Short Course. Um, you can learn about tree identification, tree care and maintenance. This is a free course and it includes pruners, hands saw, and a tree ID book. You also be able to preserve your tree for the tree giveaway in October. Another event on October 4th
at 2 p.m. at the library, there will be an invasive species awareness program. Come learn how invasive species impact our ecosystem. No. Um, also on October 11th at 10 a.m. on America, we will be removing invasive species. This is a hands-on experience
that benefits our environment. That's the date. Uh October 18th from 10 to 1 will be our tree giveaway. You can reserve your tree by emailing us at Middle Sex ECgmail.com. Some of the trees available this year
are Black Gum, Flowering Dogwood, Redwood, and Service Perry, which I've never heard of service tree, but I looked them up. It's pretty region. Again, that's all after my mental uh as far as Benny Mountain View Park is uh we you know the
playground area is starting to look good. I mean it slow start but they're moving pretty good now. I'm happy with that. Also, I know we've always done firewood. We're a little slow start because the machine broke down, but it looks like it's back up. So, we'll see. We'll start splitting wood again. There is some there now, but we don't have a
lot stockpiled, so it will go fast. >> You got a waiting list, plenty. Yeah. for the DP, the Brian tank at our shop. They wanted Lenny to build retainment basin to hold all that water in. But Lenny came up with a way of he allowed
they allowed to put a basin in and in the event that it leaks, it will go into the basin and they throw our sanitary. >> They have approved that. It sounds like it's kind of crazy, but the EP >> it's basically secondary containment is basically what you made, right? for
10,000 more or less >> 10,000 gallons. You would have to build a build building as big as this. >> I have I have one at work. >> Also, they want at recycle center. You see where the used oil is? They require them to put ballers in front of now. So, if anyone hits the tank, they don't want
to leak. So, they did that today. >> Has to be protected. >> And also, Lenny's been working on the capital budget. I know we're looking at a sweeper. Our sweeper is how how old is that now? >> 24 years. >> 24 years. I mean, I I used it when I was there.
>> He's just squeaking by. So, he's got some irons into the fire to try and get some in there. So, doing a great job with that. >> That's it. >> Oh, I had a question. >> Yeah. >> The bathrooms, they were working on the foundation. Where are we at? Did they
>> So, um, as of today, they were waiting for PSNG. They got the call of what it was going to cost to shut the power off. apparently has to put a breaker on one of the poles on bassads in order to shut the power off so they can crane over the power line. So um right now they just have to
pay so they can come shut it off and they can set up the crane. So within the next two weeks give or take that new bathroom will be installed. >> So you mean Christmas? >> No. >> I know the way they work. >> We've been pushing them. I need that
bathroom. Oh, I know you're probably tired of looking at it sitting on the grass. For sure. >> That's it. >> Um, >> Michael, >> uh, Claire, for your programs that you're doing, are you did you put those uh or did you send them to uh Frankie at
Positive Solutions or so they can be posted? >> I don't Kelsey has them. >> Okay. >> But Kelsey has them to put up. >> Yeah, I just don't I gave her like the September ones. They'll give you that one. Like I don't know barter. >> Yeah. >> And then has her in the library and she
pushes them out >> just so they can be pushed out social media. I think they're great programs, but if people don't know about them, no one's going to >> If you think of any other way, let me know. >> No, no. That's that's the pranking. >> Yeah. Okay. >> To go directly to them.
>> Y. >> Yeah. >> Next. >> Yeah. You're up. >> I'm up. Okay. I have a police report. They were busy last month. It looks like 1695 calls to service. Uh there's 24 adult arrests, 364
summones, 13 were DUI address arrests, radar 51, crashes 29. For our national incidentbased reporting system, there were 13 crimes and six were cleared last month, which is a very good number.
So, we know that our guys are doing the investigations that they need to in that. And along those lines, I was looking at the detective bureau just to see what they were doing. Not that they're sitting around doing nothing there. They're always investigating something sometimes years old. Correct,
Chief? Um, simple assault, there was one in August. Four harassment. There's uh three thefts, one shoplifting, criminal mischief. There were two missing person, one like here's a big one. Every month
it seems to be quite a few. Like there was 24 firearms permitting which goes through the detective bureau. So for the year there's been 225 of those. >> You know, all this is time consuming. So I know these guys aren't sitting around
doing nothing. you know um fingerprinting NCIC there was 21 for those for the year there's 216 so this is you know a lot of their time for the detective bureau that is also investigating crimes that you know have
happened in the past so you know they are doing a fantastic job and I know they clear this stuff sometimes years later when people have already forgotten about the crime and I commend them for that I'd like you to let them know I appreciate it. It's great when I get the
emails that you cleared something from last year. It's like these guys just don't let go of it. I also have the municipal court record for uh there was 357 tickets, 18 parking, 339
moving violations, 21 DUIs. There was 13 criminal complaints, two ordinance violations, 13 zoning issues, which I like that number is going up. >> Now, these are the ones that are cleared. >> Yeah, this is what they did in court. Apparently, this is the court report.
Okay. She did make a note of the backlog. There's 975. So, they are starting to catch up, I think, with some of the virtual and that. I think they've done a couple of those, but not in person. And I know she's working on that. I just saw the email today that she was talking to you about it. They
had a they're cancelling one, I guess, because they have to move it for something, but they are working on that now, mayor, with the extra sessions. Um, let's see. New business for August in a court. There is four court sessions, two
in person, two virtual, 240 defendants, 74 cases deposed of this month, 76 DUIs deposed. total monies was 2981581 and the burrow portion is 1397397.
So they're they're they're trying to make some headway. Um I didn't get to look at the email too thoroughly, but there there was unforeseen circumstances, so they had to push one of the sessions. I know they were they've been working with Chief Gist on this also. So it's been a good
relationship. Now you guys are getting on the same page and starting to move the backlog, which is fantastic. Also, I'd like to mention the food truck festival this weekend. Considering only a couple months of planning
basically, they did a phenomenal job and the turnout was fantastic and I was talking to them this weekend and the only place I I feel it can go is up. You know, they put it together quick. They can have some more vendors, you know, selling the crafts and face
paints and all that stuff. The petting zoo I know was huge. I know adults that were paying to go in there and pay. It was ridiculous, you know. So, it it was really well done considering the amount of time they had to plan for it.
And I know it was attended and trust me, I want to let the public know they really really really appreciate the support because this is their biggest fundraiser right now. And if it goes over well, they may even consider doing one like springtime, you know,
>> bookending, >> right? you're gonna need it. >> People are around because they're going to need it because they got to replace the carnival which was a huge and I know it wasn't too bad on you guys because they they were setting fence up. They were helping your your guys because I saw them at the end of it. I was there.
I know it worked out for you. It wasn't like it was all in you guys to do everything. >> No, we got a couple volunteers assistant >> which was perfect. Chief, we appreciate the police presence there. I know I saw somebody from the county when gentleman does the dog. He was there. We were
kitsing around giving Jolene a hard time. She gave it back to us, trust me. But it was it was really good. And I appreciate you supporting our fire department because they are all volunteer and they rely on us for their donations. That's
all I have, man. >> All right. Very good. Ellie Griggs. >> Yes. Uh good evening everyone. Uh just first want to say the note um in support of the police department changes and I would like to thank Chief Gist for his recommendations and hard work for our
community. Thank you. I'd also like to uh congratulate Lee Wo as a pillar of our community. I just want to say I've worked with him on various projects and he's a great person and really good to deal with. Uh shade tree commission uh a
good meeting this this month. Uh there was a discussion involving burrow trees and sidewalks. Uh but you know they were definitely talking about uh citizen concerns. Uh public works also gave the point of view of what what they thought and uh consider. We're also considering
what other towns do. It was a it was just really a great meeting. Uh I'm not going to elaborate on what we're discussing but I will be uh presenting with my council Madic and the mayor and full counsel determine the right course of action for the burrow moving forward. Uh, I also like to thank the commission
for all they do is this was a long meeting and uh they meet the second Thursday of the month in this room at 7 p.m. if anybody'd like to attend. Uh, board of health, we didn't have a meeting this month, but there there is a rabies clinic the first Saturday of the
month uh in November from 10 to 12. They're always looking for volunteers. If anybody like to volunteer, feel free to reach out. Uh, they meet the third Thursday of the month in the library community room. if anybody's available to attend. Uh, that's all I have. Thank you.
>> That's it. No, just kidding. All right. U, obviously there's we're not going to have an administrator uh report tonight. I >> I'd like >> I was going to let you go. >> Okay. >> All right. Go ahead. >> Okay. Along the administrator's report, since I have the administration now, I'd
like to say Kelsey has been doing a fantastic job >> and your office looks fantastic in there. >> Thank you. >> You put up with them digging it up. I do have one more thing. There was, and I know people are going to ask about it, so let's just get out of the way. IKEA,
there was a call for over there that the fire department responded to. I forgot to read this. I got have the report. I know Mike, you got it, I believe, also. >> I got it, too. >> You got it. And at 2255 hours on September 20th, they were dispatched over to there for a reported odor of
burning. uh the two the deputy chief and the assistant chief responded because Chief Barttok was working unfortunately and then uh 82 821 and 823 which is Lincoln and and um I believe three is
Parker if I'm not mistaken responded and the other two were on standby. They arrived on the scene. They established a fire command. They uh relayed to Somerset County Communications at all responding units the following condition
report. No smoke, no odor. Okay. So, they they were released from there and on the way back they noticed some smoke along Lincoln Boulevard and they went to put in here. It's along was along
Lincoln Boulevard and they went to the building where it was at and it was somebody barbecuing and that's all that was going on for that. I also know that the police did investigate during the week a noise
complaint also and it was unfounded. >> That's correct. So, we have been on top of them and investigating anything that is called in just to let everybody know because I know it gets out there and then everybody says, "Oh, we're doing nothing about it." Well, we're trying. We're
doing what we're allowed to do. Okay. So, unless unless a resident is going to sign a complaint specifically themselves, the police really can't just go over there and write a ticket for the sake of it and the fire department can't make a fire up that's there. They did they did go in and tour the the
property. The manager let them in at IKEA just to make sure they weren't burning something the way they weren't supposed to. They were smelting or something that everything was fine. They even lowered the one door a little bit if they were asked to. I know by the assistant chief. So that's what was going on there. I just wanted to mention
that. I forgot about it there. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Nope. That's all I have, sir. >> All right. Um, I know you've had a whopping one day of everyone jumping in and uh asking you uh 20 million questions. Um, thank you very much. I'm
sure as time goes on and we we we go on, we're going to we're going to see we're going to see some differences obviously and um I'm looking forward to, you know, the next step, the next phase along the way. All right. Um,
sorry. up. Open up for the privilege of the floor. >> Motion second. All in favor. >> All right. Anyone wishing to say anything, step up. >> Except for John Madden. >> You got a timer on, right? >> Okay. Three minutes. Go. >> Question.
>> Well, listen. I want to thank you guys. >> Name and address. Check your underwear, John. Check back. >> Thank you. So today this episode um it was I witnessed a minor accident on quarter decor right past our shop. Immediately I
got on the phone to call within a minute two patrol cars were there already. You talk about expediency and the reason why this is uh a uh market in thing in instance is because of the uptick of the
violence across this country in this wonderful time when we're getting all this nonsense. We have such a wonderful thing with public safety here. So, you know, we can't control what goes on across our plane, but this town we're safe. Public safety is wonderful. So, I
have to thank Chief G. Number two. So number two, um I got to tell you, uh regarding the Lincoln statue, I just want to give you a quick update. You know, uh we slash I got through the preliminary application many hours. And
I just found out that Lenny uh has a big contact with the Rossy list and they told me that at the uh historic preservation and the state and the federal level if we can get the Lincoln statue on the Rossy list, it's going to help. The second phase is going to be
much more difficult and very expensive. So I'm going to meet with Lenny to see if we can get the this item on the Rossy list as quickly as possible so we can get further protection on that. So that's it. Last thing I want to talk about is Lee. I've known Lee many, many years. The thing about Lee, he's so
steady. Try to irritate and intimidate if you can't. He's just very steady. What a mentor to somebody. >> What's the 25 cent word, John? Unflapable. palpable. So,
with um I know undue reticence on my part, I will try to keep it plain, but um thank you for honoring Lee with the pillar because I think it's welld deserved. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thanks, John. >> Hey, thanks, John. Always a pleasure to
hear from Mayor Meredith. >> Lauren, 809 Grand View. I just had a question about the traffic directing it off of Maui onto South Lincoln that's going to go by elementary school goes down by Parker School. That was just a concern I had might want to consider. Um
and then I'd like to know how we can notify the public when they hear noise or smell as opposed to bothering the police department. You don't need that. Like can we get that out? >> I'll even give it to you right here. I mean it's easy enough for me to to to pick up again. You could have these copies. Do you want to give them the
right answer, but just >> that we're working on that to give to to have people have the right thing. I saw someone on social media put something out there. I don't know whether it it was accurate or not. I know this is accurate. This came right off the state website. >> So, I think we need to publicize that.
>> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Oh, you're welcome. >> Anybody else? >> Okay. Seeing no one stepping up, a motion to close. Motion second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay.
Soon as you get caught up in your notes. Resolution 255205 acknowledging the change in status for certain properties under the veteran tax dedessions for block 86.11 lot 17. Resolution 256 2025 refund of thirdarter taxes for block 47
lot 8.01. 1 Resolution 2572025 2025 sewer billing waves appeals. Resolution 258 2025 acknowledging the change in status for certain properties under the senior citizen disabled person tax deduction. Resolution 259 2025
acceptance of standing reports. Resolution 260 2025 2025 sewer billing waved appeal for block 295 lot 44. Resolution 261-2025 authorizing added tax leans for the
cleanup cost incurred from violations of the property maintenance code for block 334 lot 6. Resolution 262 2025 approving the proposal from Kier's Engineering and Design in an amount not to exceed $142,500
for professional engineering consulting services for the 2025 road construction program. Resolution 263 2025, approval to submit a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for the Mountain A and South AB improvements
project. Resolution 264, 2025 authorizing an annual response stipen for qualifying members of the Middle Sex Bureau Volunteer Fire Department commencing on January 1st, 2026. >> Okay. Does anyone want to pull any of these?
>> Nope. Nope. Okay. I need a motion to approve. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Call the RO. >> Council President Ka. >> Yes. >> Councilman K. >> Yes. >> Councilman Denza? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dino? >> Yes. >> Councilman Dodie? >> Yes.
>> Councilman Griggs? >> Yes. >> All right. Very good. Okay. Non-consent agenda. >> Resolution 265 2025 pay all claims. >> Okay. Need a motion? >> Second. >> All right. Any discussion?
Call the roll, please. >> Council President Cahan, >> yes. >> Councilman K, >> yes. >> Councilman Denza, >> yes. >> Councilman Dino, >> yes. >> Councilman Dodie, >> yes. >> Councilman Greg, >> yes. >> All right. We have two items here uh on the agenda workshop. Uh
what I'd like to do at this point is I'd like to switch the order if you guys don't mind. Um because we do have someone here from Solar Simplified, I believe. Uh, I just want to state for the record, this is, uh, coming up through the Environmental Commission.
Yeah, I have to throw this out there for everyone out there in TV land. This in no way means that we're endorsing you or recommending people to buy or anything like this. This is strictly forformational purposes only. Um, if you don't mind stepping up to the mic
and and introduce yourself, please. >> Can I hand these up to you again? >> Sure. coming our presentation for you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Just enough. >> Thank you.
Um All right. Uh, my name is Tom. I'm with Solar Simplified. Uh, I want to thank you all for giving us time to uh, present tonight. Also want to thank Claire and the environmental committee for kind of getting this started over a month or so ago when we first first chatted. So, um, I'll go through this
real quick and then I don't know if you guys are allowed to ask any questions at the end or >> Oh, yeah. Okay, happy to answer as many questions as you wish and try to give you as much time for that as possible. Uh, so our quick agenda here is what is community solar? Uh, community solar
benefits, who we are, solar simplified, uh, a couple case studies, um, and then really temporary discussion and Q&A as I mentioned. Um, for those who don't know, community solar is a uh state overseeing program to allow solar access to residents who
can't get solar by traditional rooftop systems, don't have access to it. It's estimated that 80% of the population doesn't have access to traditional rooftop solar. They rent or have roofs that don't support it or financial reasons. So, there's a huge part of your population that doesn't have access to
uh traditional solar. Um, community solar basically connects the residents to local solar farms. We have uh three of them in the PSNG territory right now. Closest one here, I believe, is in Somerset. Um, with community solar, you keep your same utility or set with PSNG.
We're not a supplier, so we don't change your supply rate. Um, and this is a totally optin program. We don't um automatically opt people in like many uh energy aggregations do. Um, Phoenix Solar works basically by hooking you up to a local solar farm.
Like I just said, those credits get applied directly to the customer's TFT bill each month in the form of a monetary credit. Um, with our program right now, it's a 45% discount that's applied to the uh, customer's bill on their solar credits that they receive. I can go a little bit more in detail on
that for you in a moment. Uh, community solar benefits for customers. uh they get a guaranteed 45% savings on their solar credits that get applied. Uh there's no installation required. We do absolutely nothing at the customer's home. It's basically think of it as virtual solar. Um
obviously solar reduces carbon footprint and helps to meet state sustainability goals and u support a cleaner environment. A couple case studies we added in here. Couple towns that we work with in uh New York. Lancaster, New York was our first
uh partner account back in 2022. Um it's a population of about 20,000. So just a little bit larger than you guys, but not much. Um we've enrolled 700 accounts there uh and saved over $500,000 for uh customers. Um I will mention that New York's community solar discount is much
less than New Jersey. It's only a 10% discount. So these savings numbers are based off of New York's 10%. So savings numbers in New Jersey are going to be much higher. um newer partner which is Manley's New York live at bigger town 33,000 uh we've enrolled about 1100
people there since 2024 uh uh there is a quote in there from one of our former town supervisors from Lancaster New York Ron Rafino I'll read that at your own time um last kind of slide here is basically
just a little bit about us we've been uh doing community solar This is 2019. New York was our first state. We're in five different states now. Um, thousands of customers at this point. Uh, one thing with community solar is it's very limited to capacity. There so many solar farms in the state and
capacity becomes an issue. They can only service so many people. Um, so we do have immediate capacity right now. Um, we have about 1,200 spots uh right now available. Um, and when I say spots, it based off the average household size. Um we've done this um with dozens of
municipal uh towns and five states as they said. Um we kind of pride ourselves. We have no formal complaints with um any of the attorney generals or better business and that stuff. So we really focus on customer service making sure we uh take care of our customers.
Um last slide just has a little bit of information about next steps as far as how we typically work with municipalities. Um, hopefully I made that nice and quick for you because I can tell you guys have a lot going on and you're pretty busy based off of all the stuff you've already gone through tonight. So, um, you guys can I'll keep
this copy obviously to review later on, but I have to answer any questions that you have. >> Is there any cost to the individuals? >> No. So, it's a free program to sign up and participate in. Um, I can give you guys a copy of what the uh, PSCG statement would look like for a
customer. There's a sample that we get right from the Stateson website. um they get solar credits applied in a dollar amount. It's almost like if you had your own solar system. The bill actually looks very similar to top solar bill. Those credits get applied. The customer keeps 45% of those credits. Therefore,
the 45% discount promise. 55% come back to the community solar administrator. So, it's basically like if I handed you $100, I'd take 55 back. You 45 to buy a >> N. What if you have solar already? you
are disqualified unfortunately. So you are disqualified based on our conversation earlier. So yeah, New Jersey does not allow um both. It's kind of one or the other. We already have >> I can live. >> Yeah, some states do allow it and it's a nightmare. So I'm glad they don't allow it because it creates a lot of issues. So um good question though.
>> So when you're talking solar credits, right? >> Is a solar credit based on what I use in my house? >> Yeah. Yep. So when a customer signs up with us, one of the forms they fill out uh and our application's totally digital website. One of the forms a customer
will complete with us is a letter of authorization for us to get their historical data from the utility company. So we go out to PSNG, we say, "Hey, give us this customer's data. We'll send the last 18 months typically of history back. Based off that history, we know pretty close to your average
consumption of electric." That percentage of a given solar farm gets allocated to to you in that case. So solar farms are allocated on a onetoone basis. If the solar farm makes you know 5 megawatts of energy, we uh enroll an equal amount of customers that would
historically use that much energy. >> Okay. Now, so the credit is actually money that's coming from the state. >> Uh it's money that's coming from the energy that's generated that is sold to the state. Yes. >> So the energy you're it's solar energy
>> that's being sold to the state. Mhm. >> Now, basically, they're giving you money for the energy that you gave to them. >> Yeah. >> And based on a portion or whatever my percentage of usage is of that total big block, I'll get a solar credit.
>> Yep. >> Now, the the government will say, "I'm giving you a $10 solar credit." At which point, $5.50 goes back to you guys, and I keep $450. >> Correct.
Okay. Now, just just on average, I mean, these are nice numbers, but you know, if if I'm like right now, what's the typical rate about 13.5 cents? >> Uh, the supply rate is probably a little higher than them now. >> 14.
>> So, yeah. So, solar. >> Okay. Cuz I So, say it's 14 cents just for argument sake. How much of a how much of a solar credit net to me am I going to see? A penny, two pennies, five?
>> No. So, we we try to give enough credit to cover the the dollar amount of your bill. So, the credits get applied for not just the delivery thing to actually cover your supply cost, too. So, it does cover both portions of your bills. Well, a portion, but it's not. I mean, so if I'm spending $100 in solar, not solar,
$100 a month, >> you're figuring that I'm going to get almost $100 back in solar credit. >> Yes. >> Really, >> Mayor? >> I have sold. You know, I have sold. I just got my bill today.
Minus $2.89. And I got a pool, a hot tub, and an electric car. for your house. >> Okay. I mean, I get it, but that's not >> No, >> but you're getting a 100% of your solar
system. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's getting 100%, >> right? But but we're not But the whoever would sign up for this is paying no capital cost. You're just >> you're paying the capital cost out of the 55%. >> Exactly. Yeah. That's the best way to look at it.
And the and the the bone to the to the municipality is that we get 50 bucks a guy whoever signs up. >> Yep. That is part of our program. So >> is that ongoing or is that one one and done? >> On ongoing. So as long as we keep signing people up from the municipality that will keep creating that track.
>> So that's every year. Is that reset every year or is there >> uh it's a one time per customer. So once a customer signs up. >> So it's on Yeah. You if you get more people you'll get more money. But if you sign up, >> they're get we're getting 50 bucks
>> per house >> and that's it forever. >> Can we sign a borrow? >> Unfortunately, not New Jersey. New Jersey is strictly residential. Some states do allow commercial and then New Jersey. >> So basically the mun the signing up the
municipality program means that we are basically letting you be a recognized utility provider in our town. >> Yes. Yeah, we typically partner when we partner with Mun Valley, what we typically do, um, we have a letter that
we'll send out to residents. So, we we're an anti- door knocking company. A lot of our competitors go out and do door knocking and knock on doors, which we find residents can't stand. So, we don't do any of that. We do a mailer usually, which is educational to get the information out basically what I just shared with everybody. Um and we also
can partner with town events, info sessions, whatever the town and especially probably in the states, whatever the environmental committee, you know, feels is best. >> So, and and if we signed up for this, are we
are you guys exclusive to this town or can people use whoever they want? >> People can use whoever they want. This is totally opt-in program. If one of our competitors, you know, calls up one of your residents and signs them up, that's like there's no this isn't like an energy aggregation where they're locked into a certain company. There's no no
strings like that attached. >> Okay. Where does your farm go? >> We have uh the first one that we're filling right now is in Somerset. Um so New Jersey uh mandated recently on the the latest community, all new projects have to be either rooftop uh systems or
uh built on like brown fields like landfills and stuff like that. So they've kind of done away with building up on fields like we kind of started. So Somerset's the first one. We have two more. I can get you the addresses for them so you can kind of check it out if you like. >> And as far as the addresses go when
people sign up to the town. Is it based on the address or if like somebody moves out, somebody moves in, can the town get it again or is it all in one? >> Yeah. Yeah. So somebody new moved in, the town would get a credit for that too. And then as far as the how we calculate it, we we can we do give the town a specific code for people to use
when they roll. We we use that to track. We can also track by zip code, too. So, if somebody rolls and has the the zip code of your town, you can also >> if if you sign up, what's the what type of termination is there? If someone just says, I I've had it, I want out.
>> Yep. There is a uh a state mandated community solar form that any community solar provider has to use on that form. There's a couple things listed. Uh one is the discount percentage that we uh promise. Another thing on there is the opt out terms. uh our opt out frames are customer can opt out at any point.
There's no opt out fees or anything like that. Um usually takes about two billing cycles to get started if somebody enrolls and it's same with the opt out usually that's just >> like two. Yeah, but you're not mandated to stay in for another two years or whatever. >> Potentially a month contract.
>> Okay. All right. >> Are you finding uh most most residents are sticking with the program or like what percent of fact can out? Yeah, I mean we really don't see any churn like that. It's it's turn is unfortunately usually just if people move or or death
unfortunately is really mean you would see turning. >> Okay. >> You said you had 1,400 spots like total. What happens after? >> So it's first come first serve. So once they're full they're full. Now um there was a there was a press conference about a month ago with Governor Murphy. He
just announced the next round of community solar. Uh there's a a process that developers have to go through to get approved for the community solar program. They have a complicated system that I don't even understand. Um but they're approving another round of community solar problem. So once we fill these, there's likely to be more like
behind this. It's not going to stop. >> So So at this point, there's not one resident here that has community solar. Correct. >> Um >> I signed up. I have Yeah, I was going to say >> I have I have a different plan because this one didn't start it. I've on
community solar for over a year. My plan is only I'm in with a plan with 21% back. >> So this is actually higher. >> This is this 45. Yes. >> So let me ask you a question. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, Claire, but how much you see are you seeing any money from it?
>> Yes. My bill my entire bill is $20. Well, I would expect that out of you, Claire, not to be a wise guy. >> Okay. Well, not everyone. >> Okay. All right.
>> So, so you you feel it's worthwhile obviously cuz they're here. I got you. >> Okay. Can you u >> I mean hey guys at this point >> I got I got a couple questions. >> Yeah, there you go. Go ahead. >> So um so next steps approving the
program there's an agreement between us >> Yeah. >> and you guys. So until that happens there's no 45%. >> The well the 45% is like you can go home and sign up now. >> So if we end up signing an agreement tomorrow, you guys sign an agreement
with us the town. Is there does that number go up even higher? >> Yeah. No, the 45% is fixed. Um, >> can it go up higher? Oh, what a good question. >> No, I don't think so. I think it's actually going to go down. Not for those go. >> Um, not not that I'm aware of. That
question would be way out of my head. >> No, I don't think >> I was going to say I would go my way. >> Yeah, it's a good question. So, the the the 45% is fixed for each individual solar farm. So, the three we're doing right now are at 45%. Once you sign up, that's your percent. It's locked in >> forever. >> Forever.
>> Forever. I think it's a 20-year practically a 20-year contract. So, um, a year from now when we're subscribing the next round of solar farms, they may be 45%. I don't think it will be to be honest. I think it'll be less. When New Jersey did their pilot program, it was 21% which is what Clare has. That's what
most of the farms are at right now. There's a The last round when they did the fitting, one of the points forward things was the higher percentages got more points. So, a lot of us kind of went crazy. So, what's the difference if we signed up with you or residents could do it on their own?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. We would get $50 >> 4,500 homes. So, we could make >> So, if we decide to do this, don't sign up until we >> Well, we would we would retro we would retro that back to anybody who signed up, even if we didn't have an agreement yet. So, we're not going to
>> $50 $45. >> And it's per owner, not per owner. So, do you have a contract that two two things? Do you have a contract that you can share with our attorney or leave? >> Yeah. Gave it to me. I've actually already
reviewed it, >> whatever you guys want to do. >> Uh, Chris, any not on the contract, but do you know of any of your other towns? >> No, this is new to me. I commend Claire for bringing it. I I've never heard this spoken before. >> Have you Have you done a review on the contract? >> I looked at it.
>> You did? >> Well, looking at it is one thing. Did you review? >> I wasn't I wasn't instructed. >> I look at a lot of things. >> I wasn't instructed. I read it as background. I read it as background in advance of this discussion. I did not review it when >> Okay. Sure. I just let you know outside for a full
full review until I know you were interested. Yeah. This is outside of the burrow program. So if we if I want to sign up tomorrow, how do I do that? >> Oh, is it? Okay. >> No, no, I want 50 bucks. >> Yeah, but he said they'll do it with
Yeah, we'll definitely retro that. >> All right. So, at this point, he has the contract. >> He's going to look over it. Let me just Are you guys interested in >> I signed up already, too? when I >> know Claire, what' you do? Put him in a
headlock and then I would have got $25. >> Um, now mayor, what about So the program I know it's it's a mailer, which is great. Is there anything else like rooc calls? Anything else other than mail? >> No, we do uh the mailer is the the main
piece we do. We don't do any robocalling or anything like that. um >> emails maybe. >> We are open to like um I can tell you I've seen social media really helps. We've had uh towns where like the mayor or somebody posted something on social media that really goes a long way. Um we're we're open to doing whatever you guys
>> Okay, but the mail is on your end. It's either it's mail, social media, and that's that's it. There's no door knocking calls. >> Okay. >> You can't move. It's okay.
I after the thorough review will be conducted. >> All right. Good. >> All right. At this point, hang on. Just >> Jeremiah. Yay. Nay. >> As long as we don't owe nothing. I'm always so used to feeling window.
>> Kenny. Mike. >> All right. He's going to give it a review. Uh if we get a thumbs up, we're going to take it to the next step. That's where we're at. Uh once again, for those everyone out there in TV land, just because we're thinking about doing
it does not mean that we are we we would encourage people to look into their whatever they it is that they want, but right now it seems that this could be a pretty favorable deal to people that they thank you for >> especially if you don't have to do any capital improvement to your own house. I think that's a
>> Yeah. No, that's a good one. Mine's in the wrong direction anyway. That's what they always >> All right. Thank you. Thanks for looking out for us. Appreciate it. >> Okay, we we spent a little bit of time on that. Let's go to the next item is going to be
>> horseshoe pits, please. Who's who's the horseshoe pits? Bobby. Bobby. >> Bobby W. Bobby, >> we're looking at a solar farm now that you >> they're all out, right? All
right, Lenny, are you are you are you driving the ship on this one or is it Bobby? >> Bobby, we both set. >> So So in front of you, I gave a packet to uh Council Conan. Um in reference to the current
condition right now, um >> I'm having a little bit of an issue because we are getting a $2 million playground. for spending a substantial amount of money at Mount Park. It's gonna be gorgeous. You're gonna have to
>> and we had so there are 24 courts. Um they pay roughly from anywhere from$1 to $150 a year for their permit. There's no maintenance that is involved from their lease. Uh there used to be a lot of them
in town to my understanding. Uh there's only one everyone in in other townships and counties and medicine and Woodbridge. Um I haven't seen anything over the course. >> Nobody's played there this whole >> this whole year.
>> The weeds are two feet high. >> Not one person has been there from the horseshoe club. Um I know it's breed of course, right? It's >> this is our time right now. >> Is is is there a lease or anything for that? There's nothing. So, we could just
>> There's It's your decision. It's It mainly comes down to what you guys want to do. I just wanted to I didn't want to have this $2 million playground and then once it's up and running and beautiful and we show up to you guys and you see this, >> it's right in between where we >> Oh, I know where it is. I thought you
were going to chop it in half anyway. >> So, we're So, due to the design plan, there's 24 courts, right? Um they lost three. So now they're down to uh >> 21 >> 21. But now I had money and capital. I
originally game plan I was going to put a pickle ball court there, right? So I was going to take another six, but then I got to thinking with uh Councilman Cino and Councilman Conahan is what are we doing here? Are we going to spend
money to resurface this? Resurfacing is a ton of money. Um, so you know, we got a quote to get the uh resurfacing to do a pickle ball court. Just for a pickle ball court resurfacing was going to be roughly 20 grand. So that is you can fit about eight pickle ball courts, you
know. So my train of thought was before we pull the trigger on anything, I we have funding to remove everything. Remove the whole thing. start from scratch and put our heads together and see what you guys want to see.
>> Just plant grass. >> What would you What would you do? What would you pull everything out? Would grass? So, >> yeah, I wouldn't jump the gun. My recommendation would be to plant grass until we decide something. Uh my personal opinion would be to eventually
have pavilion, have something that our residents can use. You're going to have such a listen, you're not really going to kick out the seniors if that's where we're going because that area that the original pickle ball was is the adult fitness area. Don't forget. So that's
already going to be incorporated. So I think down the road you should maybe look at either a stage or a pavilion or something there to utilize that. >> Well, isn't there a pavilion like 50 ft away? >> There is, but I'm thinking if we did
something bigger, I thinkwhere You can rent it again. >> Isn't there a mountain park like like improve park improvement committee that's dedicated to this type of issues? Has this been run for this at all? >> So, um I spoke to them about removing
it. The parks approve committee. I think that's what you're asking, Jeremiah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I've spoke to them about uh removing it. I did keep a chair chatting is is um I've kept her aware what I was looking to do and what what our process is going to be.
>> This is definitely goes to them. I don't know why this is in front of us right now honestly. >> Well, they're going to so he's already >> we have a we have a parks improvement committee. >> I missed the meeting Jerry. He did bring he did discuss it. >> You did with them. >> I did. Yeah. So, this is so where >> so it'll end up coming back to us.
>> It's going to come back. Yes, sir. >> That's all I care about. Yeah. Perfect. So anyway, at this point, >> I just want to make sure I understand at this point >> with the parks committee, it's unclear what's going to go there, correct?
>> But they're okay with the grass part. Take it out and put grass part of the whole design. That's fine. Right. They can figure out there. >> All right. So, if you're going to do that and they already agreed that it's okay for it to be taken out and be grass, >> right? >> Why are you here? I just want to make
sure you're not going to get the backlash from mayor council, right? >> Thanks, Lenny. I appreciate that. I don't even know what that means. >> I I guys think they're all dead,
>> right? >> Well, we did we did lose a couple of them this year, too. >> The horseshoe guys. I just >> Bob McDonald was one. >> Well, if they don't own it, they don't own it. And if they if they're not using it, >> you are correct. I have 40,000 in capital that's going to remove
everything and top soil and we'll see and then we'll >> Is there a plan? This is this is where I'm confused. Is there a mountain park? Like is there isn't there a subcommittee to plan stuff like this? Is there a plan at all? >> I don't think Mountain View. It's only Victor Croll, isn't it? >> No, we have a Mountain View
subcommittee, but uh so there's no planning. It's just step one is removing it and then they can plan something else. >> They can plan whatever they want. Then they can plan something else too. >> I know we can get some grass too. >> Right now we just go to grass. >> So Lenny, would you take the the whole
thing out or leave four courts or just take it all? >> They can decide this is inappropriate. >> If you look at them, they're horrible. >> They're not even playable right now. Jack, there's so many so many options there that um when I went to the league
last year too. >> They may be home as well. So there's so many options. There's so much stuff that we can do and that is a ton of property that is being lost and never used. Such an eyesore. You have a beautiful dog park.
>> Oh no. Yeah, I know what I know exactly what you're talking about. >> Bathroom. You're going to have this $2 million playground. The top lot getting redone as well. So, it's kind of going to be a hard >> It's in the wrong spot. >> It's in the wrong spot. >> Okay. So, the parks committee is okay
with this. >> Yes, >> 100%. >> They're aware of this. >> Well, that's not what I >> as far as they voted on it. I don't think they didn't have enough. I went to the last parks improvement committee. There was I made them aware of it. There wasn't a lot of people there. >> So, let me ask you a question. When's
the next park committee? When's the next meeting? I just want to make sure they say yes. >> Yes, >> 100%. >> That's why. >> And what what what's your I mean you >> What's the time frame? Can it wait a month to have the thing ripped out?
>> Uh the meeting is October >> October. >> October 7th. >> October 7th. Two weeks. Three weeks. >> Two weeks tonight. Tonight, >> huh? >> They wait. >> Fine. Do that.
>> Get it. get them to say yes. >> And hang on, guys. Just real quick, I just want a consensus. If the parks committee says yes, they don't have to come back here. Lenny's just going to take them out. >> Everyone all right with that? >> Yep. I'm good. I'll be there and Joe,
are you going? >> Yep. Yep. >> We'll both be there. >> So, everyone's there. There you go. Done. >> Thank you. >> All right. That was the horseshoe pits solar simplified. All right. Let's go to uh privilege of the floor on agenda workshop items. I need a motion open.
>> Motion open. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> All right. Anyone want to come up and talk about this? >> I don't see I see you itching over there, John. >> Come on, John. You can have it. >> This is it. >> Exhausted my time. The rest. It's usually It's usually us.
The ones that are exhausted, John. That's usually the opposite way. >> Thank you. Okay. Uh, seeing no one stepping up, I'd like a motion to close. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Okay. I'd like a motion for uh executive
session. >> Motion. Second. >> All right. Uh, you got to read it. >> Roll call, please. >> Resolution 266 2025, executive session. >> Okay. Uh, motion. Sorry. >> Motion. >> Second. >> And roll call.
>> Council President Conahan. >> Yes. >> Councilman K. >> Yes. Councilman Desenza. >> Councilman Dino. >> Who? Who are you up to? >> Is that me? >> No. >> No. Okay. Keep going. >> Okay. I heard we uh Councilman Cino. >> Yes.
>> Councilman Dodie. >> Yes. >> Councilman Greg. >> Okay. All right, everybody. Uh we are going to have executive session. There may be some action taken. I'm not 100% sure. Depends on how things go. >> But that's it. So, take a couple minutes to
clear out. Thank you, Claire. Appreciate it. is a voice to know.