figure take my work background off. >> I think we have everyone. Shauk won't be able to join. He's on a plane at the moment. Um, but I think we have a quorum and it is 700 p.m. >> Perfect. All right.
>> So, once Chris gets off mute and shares his video, he can start the meeting. I can't call because I'm using my phone for the video. >> I can text him. >> He should be able to hear us. Yes,
>> I've used the ask to unmute and ask to start video function, but I don't know how well that works. >> Let's uh Yeah, let me call them. >> Yeah, >> this can Oh, there we go.
>> We can hear you, but we can't see you. >> All right, so let me uh I don't want to leave the webinar now. Can you guys still hear me or No, >> we just can't see you. >> Okay. Well, that that's good because I have the script. So, so that's okay. So,
anyway, uh good morning video. >> Good even good evening everyone and welcome to the December 4, 2025 meeting of the Milbourne Township Charter Study Commission, which is called to order [snorts] in accordance with section five of the Open Public Meeting Act, chapter
231, public laws 1975. Please be advised that the that notice of this meeting was made by posting on a bulletin board in the town hall and f forwarded to the official designated newspaper that this meeting would take place on Zoom at 7:00
on Thursday, December 4th, 2025. Meeting details in the draft agenda have been posted. I kindly ask everyone to all everyone [clears throat] all stand for the pledge of allegiance, but we don't have to stand. We could whatever. So let's say the pledge of allegiance
everyone. Okay. I >> pledge allegiance to the flag >> to the flag of the United States of America for the republic for which it stand for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
>> Great. >> I would I will uh let's see. I will now uh call I will now roll call vote to note those present. Mr. Bella >> present.
>> Dr. Khan >> present. >> Uh Joanna Parker Lens >> present. >> Mr. Tana not here. And Mr. Ducker is present.
Okay. Oh Jerry that was for you. I'm sorry. That's okay. Um, hang on a second. All right. Uh, the record will show that we have a quorum for this meeting. May I have a motion to
approve the agenda? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Great. Thank you. All right. Um, hang on a second, please. All right.
[clears throat] Uh reports are there are there are there any please >> before we do the reports we have to uh approve the minutes? >> We we have to what
>> uh we need a motion to approve the minutes from last meeting. >> Oh yes yeah I'm sorry. May I have a motion to approve November 25 uh 2025 organization meeting? >> I shall move. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor?
>> I >> I thank you. >> Uh are there any commissioners with reports since our last meeting? >> Um so I'd like to start um I wanted to thank Christine Gaddy, Christina Sterneski, and Tim Hoffman for all their
help in getting us up and running. Um there's a lot of stuff that happens behind the scenes and you know they're they've been very helpful in making sure that nothing gets dropped. So, just wanted to give them another thank you. Um, I did check from our last meeting to see whether it would be possible to have
an in-person meeting on the 11th. Um, but unfortunately we missed the public notice cut off. Um, so until January, I think 8th is um all of those meetings will be over Zoom. Um, once we get to
the new year, we'll find a consistent in-person meeting location that will also have Zoom access. Um, and I'll also work on coming up with a meeting schedule for January. Um, another thing, um, it was announced at the TC meeting on Tuesday that our assistant business
administrator, Tim Hoffman, is leaving us, um, to serve as the clerk in his hometown of Hackinack. Um, we're going to wish Tim the very best. Um, I'm working with Mr. recorder to find some time so that we can interview him to gather information for our commission work probably early next week. Um since
his last day is Wednesday, December 10th. And that's all for me. >> Okay. Uh are there any other commissioners uh with reports? >> Nope. >> Okay. I I have something. Um, I actually
spoke with uh Alex McDonald about uh the interview process with our municipal workers and um Miss Joanna Parker Lens, I'm sorry I missed uh the miss before uh Joanna, but
um Alex um will meet with uh Joanna Parkens and myself early next week. or we just have to bang out a date. And before um we meet with Alex, I'd like everyone
uh to submit questions that we have for the department heads and also folks that we are going to be interviewing inside the um municipality. And I was thinking about this and I
wrote some uh questions. And so what I'd like to make uh um and and Alex uh McDonald agreed with me. We're going to have this um off the record, informal,
truthful. Um nothing will be taped. And I want as as I said to him in Chris Ducker's terms, I said uh I want the good, the bad, and the ugly. And I think the best way to do that is to start having a
conversation. And since Joanna and I um know um you know, with all our volunteer work, we most we know most of the players. So, uh, we will, uh, Joanna and I will be reaching out after Alex to,
uh, department heads, you know, uh, the police chief, the fire chief, and, uh, the, you know, deep DPW guys and everyone that, um, is involved in our municipality. So, uh, that's that's my little that's
my little report. Um, moving on. Public comment. To speak during the public comment period, please follow the these instructions. Ensure your Zoom display name shows your first uh your first and
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business owner to facilitate an orderly meeting all per and permit all to be heard. Please limit your comments to three minutes. Okay. Uh is there anyone
is is is there anyone out there? >> So we have four attendees but no hands raised yet. Um >> okay that's good. I now close the first public comment. Uh are there any other comments from the commissioners re regarding any comments that were made by
the public? But since there wasn't any, let's move on. Uh resolution 25-003 adopt chart charter study commission bylaws. Are there any uh any comments from the commission in regards to
resolute 25-003? [snorts and clears throat] I have one comment and and I should have brought it Jerry to you sooner. Um but I wanted to sort of discuss it. I don't I don't know if it's a concern but the one thing I I noticed in the bylaws
um in the section 2.3 chairperson duties it says serve as spokesperson for the commission on matters approved by majority vote in public meetings. Um, I don't know. At first I was thinking that we have a a parenthetical or a
comma that says or um service spokesperson for the commission uh and something like comma unless otherwise unless he designates somebody else or something along those lines. Although I do notice that in 2.4 for the vice chairperson it says assist the
chairperson in representing the commission at public events. I don't know if that's sufficient to cover, but it would seem that we should probably have in the bylaws for the chairperson that the chairperson can designate another commissioner to
speak on his behalf in case he can't be at a public meeting. I second that >> because it it says they he can serve as a spokesperson upon majority vote, but it doesn't say that we can vote for
somebody else if he if he's unavailable or whether he can designate once we've voted for him to speak in a public meeting. >> Right. >> Right. Um that makes sense. >> Yes. So is there
>> I would I would like to make a motion that I have uh that we have Dr. Khan represent us at public um meetings [clears throat] that if I cannot make it or somebody else cannot cannot make it um I would
like to have Dr. con um >> well I don't know that we need to designate a specific person just as long as you have the authority to designate somebody that way we have flexibility if you know Jerry or is too busy or has other stuff going on or Joanna same
thing keep the bylaws broad enough that you can designate any one of us >> oh >> gives a lot more flexibility right >> yes >> okay >> I'm thinking through how to get there. I
I understand the the intent. Um is there So I think the serving as spokesperson bullet there might be a way to modify that to allow for um the transference to another member.
>> Yeah. [snorts] I was thinking you do at the end of that comma uh unless he designates somebody another unless he unless such spokes unless
chairperson something along the lines of unless chairperson designates another commissioner in theirstead or something like that. Serve >> folks
Joanna, Jerry, what what do you folks think? >> I I would defer to Corey. >> Yeah, me too. >> Anything that allows us to have the flexibility um and works within the commission bylaws would be great. >> Yeah.
>> I trust any of us to, you know, be able to hold the meeting on your behalf if need be. >> Okay. How about I'm not great at legally off the cuff, but serve as spokesperson for the
commission on matters approved by majority vote in public meetings. Period. In the event [snorts] the chairperson is unavailable, such capacity can be designated to any
other commission member by the chair >> or something like that. >> Something like that. And then I would say without the nec necessity for a majority vote. >> Okay. Just to make it clear. >> Mhm. Right. >> Yes.
>> So um so uh Corey, you you made that proposal. Uh the um and we had the discussion. There's nothing else. If there's nothing else,
if nobody else has any other comments, we can still approve it with the under the as revised. >> So, we can still make a motion to approve as revised. >> Okay. >> Do we need a motion for the actual revision?
>> Like, >> I don't think so because the document is the bylaws haven't been approved yet. So, the motion would be motion to approve the bylaws as revised. Okay. Yes. >> In the future, if we want to change it, then we would have to have a motion for
to amend. >> Okay. >> Right. >> So, so, >> but don't we don't we need a motion to propose the revision, adopt that, and then >> Yeah, I don't think so because like I
said that you're we don't need a motion to propose a revision to a document that has not been adopted yet. Well, well, my next thing is uh a motion to approve the resolution. So we have to, you know, we have to vote on this
now or >> so I think if we just adopt it, if I'm understanding Cory correctly, um if we adopted as revised, we would just say we'd have to have some language, you know, capturing what we just discussed and then it would just be
adopted. Is that right? >> Yeah. So what we would have to do you attach there's a resolution you attach the bylaws to the resolution with the revised language noted in the in the attached resolution that that's adopted.
>> Got it. >> Got it. Is everyone in agreement with that? >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So then let's have a motion. Uh, I make a motion to approve the resolution
25-003. >> As revised. >> As revised. Yes. Is Is there a second? >> I will second that motion. >> All in favor? >> I I >> We probably should do We need a roll call probably for that actually.
>> All right. >> All right. I'll I'll do the roll call. Um Dr. Khan. >> Yes. Um, Miss Joanna Parker Lens. >> Yes. >> Uh, Corey Bella. >> Yep.
>> Uh, Chris Ducker. Yes. Okay. >> So, so, so moved. All right. So, now, um, in my notes here, uh, chartic um,
uh, roll call vote. So, we just did that then. Uh, [clears throat] Jerry, in my notes, I have you you were uh I went ahead of you. You were supposed to do the roll call vote, but
>> that's okay. >> That's okay. >> Yeah. So, the motion passes. Now that we have adopted the bylaws, we can now elect a vice chairperson. Is there a nomination for a vice chairperson? I nominate Mr. Biller.
>> I'll >> I'll second that nomination. >> Good. Does Mr. Biller accept a nomination? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. Are there any are there any nominations for vice chairperson? >> You just Oh, any other ones? Okay. Yeah.
Since I see nobody, we will um let's have a uh a roll call vote to elect Mr. Biller as vice chair. Uh Dr. Khan, will you please do the roll call? >> Sure. Uh Mr. Biller,
>> yes. >> Um Dr. Kong votes yes. Uh Miss Parker Lince, >> I vote yes. >> SH is absent. Mr. Ducker, >> yes. Mr. Bella is elected to serve as vice
chair of this commission. Congratulations. Next, is there a nomination for treasurer? >> I I nominate Mr. Tana, who is not present this evening. >> All right.
>> I second the nomination, and I also note that he wrote to me beforehand saying that he accepts the nomination if he were to be nominated. >> Ah, okay. So, so he accepts the nomination and um is there any other nominations
for treasurer? No. Okay. Mana will serve as treasurer of our commission. Congratulations. >> Oh, we need we need to vote on it. >> Oh. Oh, I thought we did. All right. Uh seeing none, I call for uh I call for a
roll call to vote uh to elect Mr. Tana as treasurer. >> Mr. Biller >> yes. >> Dr. Kung votes yes. Miss Parker Lent >> I vote yes. >> And >> is absent and Mr. Ducker?
>> Yes. So there it is. So that's that's fantastic. >> Yes. >> All right. Uh let's go to old business administrative needs. >> Great. Um thanks Mr. Ducker. Um, I think
administratively we're okay at the moment given all the help we've uh received from the clerk's office. Um, I've been happy to put in some extra ministerial work if it means we can economize the spend of our commission. Um, so there's I think administratively
we're okay for now. Um, if I find myself inundated, I will I will ask for help >> and I'm happy to help. Let me know where you need assistance. >> Thank you. Fantastic. Uh and I proposed
uh interviews and baseline for interview questions which I will be uh getting from my fellow uh commissioners. Um uh Dr. Khan, do you have something?
>> Um I just uh following on to what I said earlier about interviewing Tim Hoffman next week. Um, I know this is because we're on an expedited timeline, we won't have our set of questions sort of ready before we, um, meet with him. So, um, Mr. Ducker and I, we're just going to
meet this weekend to come up with some questions that we'll use just for that interview. Um, sort of as a, you know, preparation for how the other interviews will go. Um, and this is just because, you know, Tim's going to go poof, um, starting Wednesday of next week. So, we just needed something to work off of um,
as we get started. But yes, longer term, I think we should all work on, you know, consolidating a set of questions that we want to make sure that, you know, the interviews are apples to apples across all the folks we're talking to, >> right? [clears throat] >> Yes. >> Um, I have a question for a moment. Um,
I know last at our last meeting, we discussed uh having the public have access to us through that one email channel so that all of us can, you know, can read the the answers and things like that, the questions. Um are we inviting of course the public to propose
questions um as well so that we can consider what others you know out there who might have some expertise or experience that is outside of our boundaries and be able to look at those questions together um as our homework for next week. Um, and perhaps when we
advertise, you know, in our communities and our WhatsApp groups and things like that, when the next meeting is, is it appropriate to pose that as a question, like for my networks, I have several listers I'm on. Is it appropriate for us to to go out to to those folks and say, "We're looking for public comment, and
if you're not able to make it to these meetings, we're at this phase of our study. We're looking to create questions, baseline questions for interviewees. Um, at the moment we'll be studying uh we'll be interviewing local um department heads and potential
employees as we see fit as well as I know we discussed interviewing um the current TC members um so that we get everyone's opinions and past TC members. So we should all formulate the five of
us um the the proposed interview ease. Um I have people in my mind that I'd like to other than the department heads which I think are easy for us to identify and then some employees under the department's heads so we get a variety of responses not just from the top but from the workers who are
actually you know taking the the orders and the leads from the heads um and kind of figure out organizationally if we're you what everyone's opinions are from the inside and then from our elected officials. And I know that we're also supposed to uh look at when I I looked at our, you know, our binder um some
other folks in on different commissions, you know, other commissioners, other groups. So, let's let's comprehensively look at who in our township, you know, will have opinions um that are really should be heard and then let's not miss the ones that other people might propose to us. So, if the public out there is
like, hey, you should really talk to so and so. Um so let's encourage as as our outreach if that makes sense to all of you guys you know in our communications to say hey we're looking for these things questions and people to interview. >> Yeah totally makes sense.
>> Yes. Yeah. Uh so we we will have the community outreach. Uh Dr. Khan would you please uh you know talk about you know the emails and everything. Yeah. So, we have our um group email address
uh charter study at milbourburntwp.org. Um nothing has come in yet from the public, but I I do think um Joanna's point about, you know, standardizing our asking for the community outreach is an important one. Um given that there's all
these groups that we're all a part of, if we come up with sort of a standardized, you know, question or ask in terms of this these are the types of questions or the type of feedback that we want, then it's at least uniform across all the different channels that it's going to.
>> Yeah. a short message that that the five of us can opine on and and put out as our you know it could be going going into WhatsApp groups list serves that are email format we could put it on our socials um and put it on our website um that this is what we're looking for at
this phase >> um from from the public for anyone who can >> opine well I think I I think um we have to be real specific in what the folks
what what the public can email us and because there'll be other you know people out there talking just off the top of my head like affordable housing or this or that or or anything like that. So when we formulate, you know,
our our message to the community, we have to be real specific on, you know, what questions uh and what comments that they have. And do you think that makes sense? >> Perhaps we give an example that we are
this this request is specific to the proposed interviewees that we will be selecting. Um, if anyone has people they they think we should interview, that's what we're looking for, opinions. If somebody has an opinion. Secondly, we are only asking for if you have
questions that you'd like us to ask on the on our behalf, you know, on on the township public's behalf of [snorts] these interviewees and and propose baseline interview questions. We're not looking for any public comment or um on any other process. It's just this
particular process of the study because this is the beginning of what we're supposed to be doing. So according to what I was reading um you know we have between now and call it March 1st was sort of loosely what what this you know the binder is suggesting our timeline to conduct these interviews. So in order to
interviews we should probably give ourselves a week to two. I don't think we need much more to come up with our base questions and if those questions evolve based on our starter interviews like I think if you know Dr. Kung and Mr. Ducker are interviewing our first person and and as you said it's going to
be a a dry run basically that could inform our next set of questions like oh well he suggested something and based on his suggestion of what we can improve we can ask the next group of people um and we can be very transparent about the questions we're asking at each weekly meeting
>> but I would love to hear like for example when we met with our um the majority of the folks who ran and didn't win you know we were asking people like what questions you would you like to to hear? I would like to hear from people who were passionate about running. Those folks would be amazing. Like we should definitely include everyone in an email
to say, "Hey, this is where we are in the study. Please let us know." Most people said, "Please keep us posted and we'd love to help." So, this is a great place to start. There are many smart people in that group who didn't win who have been thinking about this for a very long time. Um, and I think we should
utilize, you know, their knowledge and and, you know, past experience. >> Yeah. Yes. Yes. And um just to add uh we are not going to um we are not going to
devel divulge to the public who we are um in interviewing you know just the uh you know just the department heads you know people can look that up but we're not going to we're not going to say you know who we are interview >> which employee you're talking. Yeah
we're not discussing which employee is being interviewed. We don't want any backlash for, you know, honest comments, but I do think people will know, we're clearly interviewing all the TC members that there are many past members. >> Thanks to Christine Gotti for sending every past TC member since the
[laughter] 1800s, >> right? >> I mean, however long it was. Clearly, we won't be contacting, you know, the the elders, but, you know, I I I don't think we'll be hosting seances anytime soon. But I do think we should pick amongst ourselves. Let's look at that list between now and next week and really
start highlighting who each of the five of us thinks are a good broad um representation of you know all all you know all people from different parties and if we ever had any independence let's just make sure we're getting
different um opinions that we really need. I think that's the our two priorities quite frankly right now is defining the a list. I won't say the list because obviously it could change but you know the primary list of people we're going to interview and then a 1B
is the set of questions that we're going to ask of the interviewes and I would say that asking the public and other interested parties for what questions they can think of I think are are informative. It doesn't necessarily mean we will ask
every question that we get in because I'm sure a lot of them will be of a similar nature and we might want to sort of consolidate. But uh I think that's 1 A is is developing the list. 1B is developing the questionnaire that we're going to use for the inter because
because again you know we want to be very deliberate but at the same time we want to be expeditious about our our process and we don't want to get sort of stuck spinning our wheels at any stage. Well, I think that would be a good problem to have if we have enough public members who are really interested in sending the questions. That would be
amazing. Um, but I think our parameters are pretty narrow. So, I feel like to your point, Corey, yes, if we have five lawyers suggesting to us these questions that might be similar, we may choose a different format that you perhaps think is the right way to ask it, but you know, I'd love to get as many people out
there who care to opine heard. I I think it's also important to draw a distinction between um current and former elected officials and municipal employees. So elected officials, we may not necessarily need to anonymize their interviews because you know they're not
sort of you know reporting to anyone um versus municipal employees, they have a you know organization structure. Um, we might also want to have different sets of questions to ask these two sets of folks just if they approach it from a different perspective.
>> No, no question, Dr. Khan. No question. Yeah, we will we will have various questions for various departments. [snorts] Does that sound about right? >> Yeah. For for different groupings. So TC
will have TC current and TC past will have X amount of questions that that pertain to what they've experienced and are experiencing. The um folks who work for the township and our department heads, leaders, and employees will have
different questions as well. Some may be overlapping, but I think it yes, to your point, Chris, it it is important to have distinctions. Um, and I think let's think about in addition to those two groupings, I think having a former business administrator um, who would be
willing to talk to us would be ideal. >> There's actually only one >> Yeah, there's [laughter] >> it would be really great to to have Mr. Gordon interviewed because he was here for such a long time. It was a different era. Um, there was a totally different party that was, you know, primary at the
time and I it would be really great to to have this experience. He's been he was here for such a long time. >> Yes, I will um I will get his number at you know from uh Alex because he basically trained Alex you know. So yes
that that is >> uh getting getting him you know to speak for his what 30 40 years I I I forget how long he was our business administrator but >> 31 years. Wow. >> 31 years Jerry. Yeah. Yeah. that would
that would be key. So, uh yes, I will I will get that information. >> Fantastic. >> Yeah. All right. Um anyone else? >> Um just following on to Miss Parker Lens's comment about um the questions
from the public. I think this is a good opportunity to start educating the public, you know, as to, you know, what this whole thing is about because I I still think there's not a lot of good information out there. Um, I think part [clears throat] of it would be, you know, as Mr. Ducker stated, we don't
want folks to be confused as to what the mandate is. And so I think just a primer as to you know what we are just a very formalized statement um official as to like what we're doing what we're studying and maybe just even a you know
how our current government works what is a township committee how it functions and then that'll sort of set the stage for and this is why we need the questions you know for the interviewees. >> Um I think that that having something prepared earlier rather than later can
only be helpful. Well, we we s I mean we we touched upon it at the last meeting and I think this is the time that we decide how long it takes for this homework to get done for us to prepare a more succinct version of our how many pages is this, you know, our educational binder, I think that's incredibly
informative, but to ask the general public to read, you know, under a 100 pages or up to 100 pages is just too much. So I think if we go a step beyond um just this particular phase, we just map out this is how our TC works. Just kind
of bullet pointed to people because to your point last time uh one of you guys suggested um that in your in your outreach um people didn't realize that we didn't actually formally elect a mayor. And that surprised the five of us. But at the same time when people don't pay attention to it until it's
like oh well of course somebody voted. Maybe I didn't vote but somebody did. So I think get rid of the assumptions, create a mini FAQ. I think that should absolutely be on the website. This is everything you need to know about our government. This is everything you need to know about the phases of this study,
how many months it's suggested because it is suggested to be nine months, but it can be sooner. So literally just bullet points to um make it very simple and easy to understand and to get people engaged. I think to expect people to look, there were 14 people who cared enough to run and these 14 people were
willing to read these binders and take an interest, but a lot of people elected us for the reason that they don't have to read it, but they would like it explained and they trust us to manage this process correctly. So, I think the bullet points would be awesome. We can figure out amongst ourselves um who will
opine more than the others. I I think all of us will have opinions, but I think that as our secretary, you'll probably compile the the data as our legal Mr. Biller, we'll be able to opine on, you know, legally sort of what what makes this FAQ good and comprehensive from a legal
standpoint. Um, and then we can we can have the next set of bullets of like this is what we're looking for the public's help with currently in this phase one of the study because there's three phases. So we can have a succinct format of these are the three phases. This is how many months they suggest for us to do it. And I know we have between
now until March 1st sort of on that loose deadline of creating this big study of what's happening in our current government to see what what we find out. But it doesn't have to take that long. But the more input we have, the easier >> um [clears throat] uh Jerry and I will
work on that on uh Saturday. >> Right. That's that's a that's [clears throat] a great point, Joanna. And so, yes, we will come up with some FAQs and then I'd like everyone else, you know, to um uh you know, email us or
or email the group or whatever. And uh we we will get that on our website. That is that is and just just so the public knows um it is suggested nine months. I I am I am willing and everyone else is
on on a commission. Um I would like to get this done in six months. I will be all over phase one because a you know um I'm I'm I'm retired and you know I'm
here in town every day. Um and um Joanna works but she's in she's in town every you know she's in and about so um we will structure and set up meetings
that's amicable for everyone and and Jerry works close by. So um we'll be you know we'll be reaching out to Jerry if one of us cannot cannot make it. But I I would like to get the um the uh the TC
done like next week or the week after or whatever. >> Yeah. Guys, you know what I would also like to get done next week if we can is I'd like to reach out to Tap into and and see if we can get information out there like a news article created that
gives our email website, things like that so that a broader a broader swath of our community knows about this and has access to us. so that we're collecting information from from more people than the people who are already
tuned in into stuff. You know, tap into seems to be like to the extent there is any that people are broadly looking into. It seems like that. So, I don't know. I think we should reach out to them and say, "Hey, you might have known because you covered the election this
past. We're the commissioners. We'd like to get information out. So, we'd like you to whether we give her an article or she interviews us. I mean, probably better to give her an article. It's easier for her and we get all the information out there clearly. >> Yeah. >> Well, I think if we >> Cy, that's a great point. I like
>> But Corey, can we can we just make this so as part of the community outreach aspect of old business? Um, can we make this just part of our um whatever we create for the FAQ and the bullets that's going to appear on our website that can be disseminated to all of our,
you know, potential PR um places. I think I think we use Yeah, we can use it for everything. We We can send it to Happy Milbourne, we can Yeah, we can send it to Tap Into, we can send it into Patch, you know, we can send Yeah. everything. Yep. >> The The more places we cover, the
better. So, and and all of our list serves, networks, you know, newcomers, Neighbors, WhatsApp, >> Dr. Maybe we can do South Mountain South Mountain Civic Association. We can do, you know, um >> Yeah. >> Work moms, all that kind of stuff. >> Yeah. anything that all of us are connected to um just broadcast it out
there and say you know this is what's happening this is the email address and if tap into can do an article that's amazing because I think people might look at that more than they do at PR pieces >> um so that would be great >> they did cover our organization meeting
although I don't know how many eyes ended up on that article um but I did hear from >> I usually read the site I I regularly look at the site and I didn't see the article >> oh Yeah, I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh I did hear from Ely that she is
retiring at the end of the year. So we might be getting a new Well, we will be getting a new tap editor starting in the new year. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Bummer. I mean, everyone deserves a retirement. >> Uh Jerry, do you have anything else?
>> Uh I did not. Um Oh, I I did want to thank um our township's public information officer, uh Christina Sterneski. she's been helpful in helping to manage the current state of the charter commission website um getting the agenda posted. So the response time
of our township offic township employees is extremely fast. I think I had my email was sent and then the agenda was already posted maybe 3 minutes later. So very impressive and very thankful for all of their help. >> Yeah.
>> Great. Thank thank you. Uh, does anyone else have anything to say before I move on? Okay. Uh, public comment. To speak during the public comment period, please follow these instructions. Ensure your
Zoom display name shows your first and last name. Click the raise hand button. You will be called upon in order and promoted uh promoted to panelist. Please turn on your video when called to speak. Clearly state your full name and whether you're a Melbourne resident or business
owner to facilitate an orderly meeting and permit all to be heard. Please limit your comments to three minutes. Jerry, can you take over this, please? Because I'm having trouble with my video. >> Sure. Um, >> thank you, Jerry. >> Are if anyone if any member of the
public would like to speak, please click the raise hand function. Um, I see there are four attendees at the moment. and we'll give them 20 seconds to >> at least we didn't lose anyone. [laughter] I I don't know if this is
illegal or not and I know we covered the the subcommittee sort of aspect of researching current form of government but did because we didn't say new business does that matter from a you know >> agenda perspective >> I I think it's okay because we sort of the reason I didn't make a point of it
is because we sort of >> the business discussion sort of meandered yeah just didn't know if we had to point it out I'm new to this formality All right. >> Okay. Since uh do we have any public comments? Uh Jerry? >> No.
>> Nope. >> No raised hands. Okay. >> I'm I'm sorry I didn't hear you. >> Oh, there were no raised hands. >> No raised hands. >> Okay. I now close the first public uh comment period. Are are there any other comments from the commission regarding
any comments made by the public? Since there were there there since there wasn't any um well I have to say this. May I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> I will motion I will motion to adjourn
the meeting. >> Second. >> Any Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Well, thank thank you everyone and thank you for the public for uh the four folks that that that listened in and um we
will be more and more um uh involved and uh I am I am excited uh to really get this going now that we have, you know, our bylaws, we have all our shares and everything. So, so we are we're we're
moving. We're we're we're moving. And again, I want to thank everyone and um I'll talk to everyone at a later date. Thank you. Let's >> Sounds good. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good night. >> Bye.