--------- So that's a conversation we haven't had yet, right? Okay. So in opt out discussion from JCPNL, having done that myself, they charge you an extra like 25 bucks a month. So I understand. Uh and I would recommend that we don't allow the
opt out. That's just my opinion. Okay. I'm not voting, but why why why go through the effort of going out there and and doing it when it comes out automatically? The smart meters from the electric side having done them in South River do not collect any data other than
you use electricity. Well, you know the S in smart meters. Do you know what that stands for? Smart surveillance. Um I you know to those people not to be flippant um if you I disagree. Okay. No, that's that is
all they do is that is in the acronym. Yes. They they they they know if the electricity is on and they know the electricity is off. Just like I know the water's on or the water's off. If I'm looking at the smart meters we're installing now, but we don't turn the water on and off. We don't know uh we
don't do any of that with the the smart meters in South River or the smart meters we're going to we can't turn we're not going to turn the water on when you're not there. Um uh all we're doing is saying, "Yeah, you're using electricity and this is how much." That's all it gathers. It doesn't tell
us what you're doing with the electricity that you're running all the electrical appliances at three in the afternoon. It just says you're blowing what does what does a surveillance I mean it's not my acronym it's their acronym but but what does the S stand for in surveillance? What does the
surveillance stand for? It's it's watching your electrical usage. It's watch it's you know it's not watching your house councilman. Okay. I mean, um, frankly that I don't think anybody in the utility department really cares, um, what you're doing with the water on
your smart meter. They just say, "Hey, you're using your water." You can hack in, too, though. Everything's possible in the eyes of the Lord. They taught me 30 years ago when I was an instructor. But yeah, you could hack in, but you know, they're not going to, you know, everybody has smart ideas,
smart refrigerators. I mean, I have a brand new refrigerator. I didn't buy a smart one. I don't want my refrigerator talking to me, okay? I have enough females in my house telling me what to do. I don't need the refrigerator to I'm in charge of the utilities committee. When that time comes, I will present it as uh no because the reason we're doing
anything with remote and not having to send a guy is to not have to send a guy. So, but in the future years when that comes up, who knows what'll be. But um beyond that uh moving on to the next section of utilities, I will mention
that uh um coming up within the next few months, we're going to kind of audit some of the processes internally that water and sewer have and you know hopefully make some changes that might uh just be better for the town. But we got to wait for finance and those kind of things to come through and see how
the next few months go. Uh but as always uh you know our water and sewer people and our electrical people are always working hard to keep this town running and they do their best. Okay. Councilwoman Main your question. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Public safety
meeting last week. Uh Councilman Pnansky and the chief of police and we discussed many issues. Some of them have been brought up recent talked about um crossing guards and departmental restructuring, parking issues, traffic flow. Um, and I think we'll be seeing
some of these items on future agendas. Um, so it was a really good, productive discussion and I also had a catch-up conversation with Chief FMA um from the MFD and I'm glad we had the discussion tonight on the battery pack, the battery
project um because he had asked me about training. So it was good to hear that there will be specific training for the fire department. Um, and that concludes my report and I have no other comments. Thank you, Councilman Posanski. Sure. I'm going to start with the senior
center. During the month of June, we had two wonderful presentations. The first one was on June 9th presented by the Miltown Public Works, Director Ralph Jeznowski on the new Miltown Recycling Program FRP on Fraud Watch Network. Both presentations were very helpful and very
informative. During the month of July, we have following activities planned. Wednesday, July 2nd, we have a trip to Portuguese Fisherman at 11:30. Tuesday, July 8th, 11:15, bus trip to the Cracker Barrel. Tuesday, July 15th, 10:45, bus
trip to the Shrimp Box in Point Pleasant. Wednesday, July 23rd, 11:00 a.m. bus trip to Shiro in Monroe. Thursday, July 24th, 9:30 a.m. bus trip to the Amish Market. Monday, July 28th, 9:30, bus trip to
Ali's. BNA nurse will be available for appointments on Tuesday, July 15th from 12:00 p.m. to 3 p.m. The service is available for Miltown seniors free of charge each month. Please sign up on the bullet board if you're interested. Now for the DPW report. DPW has done their
part in setting up the pool to begin yet another summer enjoyment. A big thanks to Ralph Jazinowski and the dedicated DPW staff. The bike path, walking path construction, which began on June 9th, has really taken form. Many residents are enjoying it and it has been wellreceived. Please make use of this
park area. It is yours to be inspired by and I would also like to thank past council members for shephering this valuable resource along. I would also like to thank CME for their uh their help and guidance and uh the recycling issue with the new containers, the use of the automatic aside delivery hands
off is being addressed. And I actually thought it was going to be addressed tonight because Ralph had told me Friday that that someone from the county would be here to to take questions and so um I'm surprised that he's not. I I didn't hear otherwise. Um anyway, um on the
streets such as Kofow, a separate small truck and manual labor is in the discussion. What seems like a possible problem now will be worked out. There will be short-term growing pains and um I'm also I'm also planning if it's if
it's needed and it may be because the the gentleman um from the county did not come tonight a meeting at the uh senior center. I'm trying to to work a time and uh um hopefully the there'll be um question and answer time with Ralph Jazzinowski and I'm trying to talk to
someone from the county also if they could be there. Um, that ends my um reports and I do have comments. If if uh if it's okay, I'd like to to to go over these and uh to to reference Ralph Craden. I'm I'm going to seem like a
blabbermouth um because I'm doing all this talking right now. Um I'm going to start off um television communications and I'd like to ask uh Councilman Collins some questions. Um and if you can answer at the end, I'd appreciate it. I know you're in charge of television the
television communications committee. We had some technical glitches for a while and they seem to be worked out for now. As you know, I visited different towns for input on their technical systems. Do you believe that we could upgrade and better serve the community? I'd like to thank Mr. Einbinder for his decades of
service to the community and manning the cameras capacity. There may be easier and technically more superior ways to continue our mission of providing residents with viewership of important meetings. And also Councilman Collins, is it possible and isn't it time to have the
board of education meetings televised? This would be for transparency to the taxpayers, especially for the busy parents who are unable to attend the meetings. This would also help our council leazison to be more involved, informed, and be able to do her job more
effectively. And also, this is for council um to possible discussion at some point. If this is not able to be worked out, could we negotiate with the board of education to have their meetings on an alternate evening? This could enable our leazison to physically attend their meetings and hours.
Um, I also have John, would you I mean, Councilman, would you like to uh Yeah, I think the new camera system works well. I've talked to other officials at other towns and they have the panoramic view so they can see who's talking when cuz I know a couple of the seniors were saying they're getting like feel like whiplash
cuz their heads were trying to figure you know follow the camera and they were getting dizzy following the the camera. So it it should work. I believe the board of ed meets used to be c uh you know televised but since they moved it to Monday and we only have one guy behind the camera he can't be in two
places at once. So um I think our board of ed leaison's here. I don't know. He might be able to, you know, ask that question when he goes back to the board of ed if they would televise it. So, uh, yeah, but I really think and I think I believe we have money in the uh, uh,
television program, right, Fred? We have $5,000 or something in there. I have to look, sir. I don't have that whether or not we have money. We have money in there, but to do the upgrades that we want to do, I don't know if we've met that bar. I mean,
uh, and Councilman, um, Pasnansky, um, to your point, I appreciate, um, your thoughts about, you know, having me, I'm the council liaison to the board of ed, uh, being able to be present. Um,
I I think that um I think that there needs to be better communication about agenda meetings and agenda items um with regard to the board of ed and notification to the public. Um
but the choice of having those meetings televised is left to the board of ed. you know, when I was a member um of the board of ed, I remember it came up and uh I was like, well, yeah, heck yeah. Like, you know, and then everybody voted
no. So, um you know, I I think that it's worth a discussion. Well, council, I I appreciate you saying that because I know that that you're the leazison and when they're having a meeting, you're we're having a meeting here, right? You don't you don't necessarily catch the nuances that you would if you were watching or or if you were able to
attend the meetings. Right. Right. No, and I I agree and I think that um so I think overall that communication would be very helpful and that maybe with the new superintendent I can have that discussion with the with the council leaison for the board, you know, and
have them consider a meeting on a different night, but they can only they can make a suggestion, but it's really up to them to make those changes. Sure. If I may, I'm not sure I fit in this, but as a parent, and I do interact with the school on a general basis, we get a
million emails, every parent about everything. Um, but I think Park View, or sorry, JK has some 400 students. Mathematically, that gives us a number of like 800 parents all getting a million emails uh in a town of 8,000.
Nobody else knows the school affects your property values. It is a big part of everybody's budget. As as a senior, you're paying the same rate I am. And you don't know what goes on in a school. And maybe just like a
lot of the parents, myself included, you're not going to look at every email. But I think something should be done to encourage the school to update people about and and you know legitimately they sunk a couple million dollars into their roof over the last few years. They did a
tuck pointing project. Um and I'm the only person who knows about that cuz or a couple of us because we happen to be at a couple of those meetings. But to the rest of the town, I do think that there is a um the report of edges is not forthcoming with information, whether
it's just that they never thought it was a problem or they don't think it's a necessary function or obligation. Um, but I think that should be revisited and um, there's a lot of conversation that I think should happen um, more publicly
with the Borvette, between the parents, the council, and the public in general because everybody's home values are predicated on a bunch of things involving a town, but the school's ratings and the school's performance is
a big part of it, and that affects everybody. So, you're all vested partners in the school's performance. Councilman Piseski, are you done with your comments? No, I I I still have a little bit more. Um, it's about the old DPW. I'm going to bring up the rehabil
the rehabilitation of the old DPW site. Again, I don't think some people understood my points at the last meeting. I do not see this as a fully functioning park as of yet. What I see is a vision, a starting point with the old and stop, I'm sorry, starting point out with the old. Stop treating this
site as a junkyard. Every taxpayer resident who cared about in plain sight, if we can't clean up and beautify this this very visible area, will our taxpayers and citizens have faith that we'll do anything meaningful with all of their hard-earned tax dollars. I brought up the idea of a community center
several times, just not there, not on that site. Councilman Mango had an idea last week of a community center at the site and it's it's dedicated Miltown Police Department. Part: 2
right now uh after an hour. So, if you'd like, I can put that together and we can have it ready for the seventh. Okay. Yeah, it's about the zero vision for the county. It's it's it's just it's a county safety program regarding I think it's Rogers Lane and um so I'll spell all that out and I can give you a proposed resolution and you guys can do
whatever you want with it. Okay. Thank you, sir. Of course. All right. Open to the public. Public comment portion of the meeting is to allow the public to bring to the council's attention or com concerns or comments. The council will respect the public's
time by refraining from any comments until the speaker is finished. Portion of our meeting is not structured. Please state your name and address for the record when you come to the podium. Just a reminder, under the rules of council, individuals wishing to speak during the public input part of the meeting shall
be limited to five minutes and may after other speakers have finished be allowed to speak for a second fiveminut period. Someone raises their hand to the microphone. Uh, please come up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record.
Hello. Um, Debbie Miller, 92 Ford Avenue. Um, I am the notary at the library for the community and I just want to let everybody know that it is a free service to the Miltown residents and if you live outside of Miltown, it's
$2.50 for up to three signatures. Though, it is important because not everybody knows this that when you uh bring your document, don't sign it until you go to any notary because they're witnessing your signature. and if you can bring a
photo ID uh like a driver's license. The other thing I want to say is um I want to commend uh water management and VPO Chris especially. They came to our house and provided services and changed our
meter and it ended up going smoothly. So, thank you. Excellent. Thank you. Good to be here. Evening. Weisenberger, 99 JFK Drive. Uh, I was going to start with a sequence, but some interesting information came out tonight. And so, we're going to
adjust a little bit here. Uh, Mr. Carr just mentioned that if we're going to get rid of a piece of property, basically has to go through council, right? I assume the reverse is the if we're going to attain a piece of
property, however, the council would have to pass a resolution to purchase. Well, it would always have to go through a resolution. Council would have to approve it for any disposal or purchase. Even if it was given to the town, council would still have to approve
that. Typically, you're going to accept a donated piece of property. You'd want to know what it was before you took it. record of that and a deed. Uh unless the records were lost when there was the catastrophic loss at Burough Hall in the
1990s. So yes. Well, even if there was lost that should have been sent to the county presumably. Yes. The copy. I bring that up once again. Block 8611. Mil
show me some documentation because I'm I'm really curious now and I'll ask it tonight. Does anybody in this room disagree that Mr. Burgerer owns the mill, pond, the dam, and the trestle? Have you contacted the tax assessor
here? Oh, yeah. I've contacted a lot of people. The county. County, too. And you know what? You want to know the the crazy part about that? The state, the county, everybody comes back to here. And that makes sense. They have no answers for you. No. The problem started
here. Whoever put those numbers on the map where they ever came from, we're probably never going to know. But the problem is if there was a deed, there was a document or record, even if we lost it, it should have gone to the county. County has nothing because it
doesn't exist. People don't might not understand this. I'll explain it tonight because this is a planning board issue, too. CME 4th Avenue that property now that redevelopment
they're only talking about the land that property now that property goes under the water right now. That's what exists. Never been separated. Never been subdivided. That's why that number never should have
shown up on the tax maps and it doesn't show up on the old tax maps. Now, what happened in the past or how that we're probably never going to know, but we can correct it and make it right because right now,
like I said, we're on the hook. Cuz if Mr. Burgerer wanted to take that to court now, like I said, it would be us, New Brunswick, and Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be us, New Brunswick, and whoever. But it's going
to end up a three-way tie. Okay. It's Burger US and New Brunswick Water. Basically, New Brunswick. And like I said, the D I've been in touch with them a long time. They said, "Yeah, these cases will go to court." And what happens is nobody's going to take ownership. Why would Mr. Burgerer take
ownership now? Two other people own it. I just lost twothirds of my problem. So, everybody's going to pay and you're going to pay forever. You're going to pay for the maintenance, replacement of that dam, everything associated with it, the dredging, everything. That's why I
said this has got to be resolved. But we can do it here. We don't know any we don't need anybody else. Send those documents. I've got the name John Foster from the D. Send those title searches to him. Send a note to them. Let them
handle it. See what happens. Worse can going to come out of it. They're going to come back and say, "Well, maybe we can't change it." But we got to do something. We just can't keep letting this go. So, and interestingly enough, tonight,
Mr. Vanola, for the substate or Yeah. for the substation, that lot and block was wrong and you caught it and corrected it. Yes, sir. Right. This is probably what's happened in the
past. And it just so happens I have the deed for Mil Pond Park. This is wrong on the tax assessor's list, too. This is 1981. John Golia has nothing to do with it.
The second one that comes out, Mr. Golia took, well, Miltown took Golia to court over the value of that property for back taxes. It took several years before they came to a price. The county commissioners came out with the price, $360,000.
And they're saying this is the deed, but I don't I think there's got to be more to it. But once again, where that record is or who's got it, we should have had a deed out of that. Like I said, whether we But this has to be corrected, too.
But the problem with this once again with the tax assessor's office, who makes this change? This is what I'm running into with every official or somebody, not just the layman, who can make this change. You got to present some kind of paperwork.
So, I can give you these two because like I said, this is what's on the tax assessor's record and in the tax collections office. It's wrong. So, and like I said, there's more to this story. People here might not know it, but back
there in 81 when this mess started, Brook Drive was starting and apparently somebody put the wrong names on the Green Acre grant. They crisscrossed them and stuff. The state got involved and it took several years to resolve it
and I'm hoping I can get a copy of that at some point, but once again, it's a simple little mistake and it creates havoc. So, you know, I got a I got a question or may have some comments. There used to be I think
my uncle used to own there's a white house that used to be apartment building and there was a house behind that where the DPW building is. There was a white single. If you look on the old deed for that, you might find something on one of the older deeds. It tells you who owns it.
It's worth owning what? Milpound Mil Pond Park. No, the railroad tracks. Well, we know owns that stuff. That's an easy one. Yeah, the Mil Pond Park is Miltown's right, I would assume. Right. Right. To the water and then New Brunswick owns the water, but we they
have water rights. That's all they have. Burger owns the property underneath there, right? He owns that. He owns the dam and he owns the trestle and he owns Lawrence Brook below the dam. The the land under the water. It's in the deeds. And he owns the trestle in the rightway
next to the Yep. In fact, you bring that up tonight. Uh, I brought this with tonight. I should have got more copies here, but this came from the historical society. This is three photos from 1905, 1907,
which I put together because they were taken in sequence out just a little bit showing property back in that time. I can pass it around. And thank you. And opposite that photo is the trolley bar. That's where that photo
was taken. I don't remember that. Excuse me, Lee. Wow.