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Part 1 (Video ID: 1CMMvNeQSiM):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Call to Order and Agenda Item Comments
- 00:01:03: Public Comment: Data Center Concerns & Permanent Ban
- 00:04:19: Cannabis Dispensary Application Review Process and Recusal
- 00:07:52: Commissioners Discuss Cannabis Application Assessment
- 00:16:34: Ordinance Amending Land Use Regulations - Data Centers
- 00:25:57: Second Reading of Ordinances: Softball, Sewer, Budget Cap
- 00:28:12: Resolutions: Tax Adjustments, Exemptions, Appointments
- 00:31:54: Resolutions: Mortgage Discharge and Interlocal Agreement
- 00:33:18: Special Event Approvals - Hope Day and Farmer's Market
- 00:36:31: Public Comment: Request and Data Center Considerations
- 00:37:21: Public Comment: Data Centers - Permanent Ban Needed
- 00:42:20: Public Comment: Local Registrar Retirement Reminder
- 00:43:03: Commissioner Comments: Reeve Run, Swearing-in, Cemetery Tour


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Order from May 1st 201 >> here. Could you please rise with me? Would you please rise with me? salute to flagges to the flag of the United States of Americ required by stat municipal clerk as the municipal clerk is directed to include a

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statement in the meeting minutes of this meeting. Are there any changes to Are there any changes today? >> Mayor, there are none. Mayor, >> I would like to at this point I would like to open up the podium to comments on comments on agenda items only. Or you'd like to make a comment on agenda items only, please approach the podium.

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Let us know uh your name and address and keep your comments to five minutes, please. >> Mary, I'd like a clarification. You have a thing here for an ordinance amending chapter 30th on land use regulations.

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Does that include the data centers? >> Okay. And in that case, I got the right thing. I've done I've done some major research several times several times and perhaps maybe this commission would like to

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follow suit with another municipality of Monroe Township. They kind of doing what you guys talked about doing, putting something together so that data centers don't come to their township. Well, maybe we need to go a little further

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like they are banning it permanently because through my research I have found through places like North Carolina, Virginia that uh these data centers are really

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hurting the general public through electricity, through water and through health as well as environmental. Jersey has 80 data centers already. Technically, I

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don't think we need any more than that. And the one that's everybody's crying the blues over is only 25% built. They're going to be going back to Vinland to ask for an extension to

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extend their u their data center to make it bigger. This technically is unacceptable when you're using 200 times what a city normally uses in the electric.

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That's going to jack up our electricity because we all know supply and demand. The more you need, the more you got to pay. And there's already buying what they can't supply from Atlantic City Electric or from any

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other place. That's raising our electric bills. Places like North Carolina and Virginia have already discovered healthwise they've got more people having health issues

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between breathing and everything else. The environment is hurting because you don't have the vegetation for the animals that are acceptable for the environment

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that better help us and everything else and I thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mary. Seeing no one else at the podium, I would like to close the uh open uh the comments on agenda items only. Madame

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clerk, shall we move on to discussions on with the commissioners? >> Yes. Discussion item number one, there's a discussion on the cannabis dispensary. >> Before we get started on that, I'd like to read a brief statement regarding the process that was used. Um, and I have it

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written down just so I don't miss anything. Uh, at this point in the city's cannabis licensing process, we have reached the stage where each member of the governing body has independently reviewed the full body materials associated with the remaining license. For clarity and for public record, I'm outlining the process that has been

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followed to get us here. The city first accepted and compiled all submitted cannabis license applications in accordance with our ordinance and applicable state requirements. Each application included extensive supporting documentation such as business plans, financial disclosures,

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operational details, and security plans. Due to the volume and complexity of the submissions, a three-person committee was utilized strictly for administrative purposes. That committee's role was limited to reviewing applications and observing applicant presentations. They

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organized the materials, completed standardized scoring sheets for consistency, and prepared bullet point summaries to condense the information into a more usable format. It is critical to understand what the committee did not do. The committee did not deliberate toward a decision. It did

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not rank the applicants for selection purposes. It did not provide recommendations. It did not narrow the field. It had no authority to act on behalf of the city of or this commission. Its work was purelyformational, nothing more. All original application materials, all

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presentation content and all committee generated summaries were made available in in full to each commissioner. No information was withheld from the governing body. Each commissioner has now independently reviewed those materials in their entirety. That

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independence is a key part of the process. [snorts] There is no recommendation before you. There is no ranking to rely on. There is no committee preference to follow. The responsibility to evaluate the applicants and make a determination rests solely with each individual commissioner exercising the authority of

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this governing body. Additionally, for the record, the committee was not a formal board or public body. It was not created by ordinance or resolution, did not exercise governmental authority, and did not provide advisory opinions. Therefore, it does not fall under the requirements for the open public

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meetings act. Further, much of the material reviewed contains proprietary and confidential business information submitted as part of cannabis applications. Under New Jersey state law, those portions are protected from public disclosure and any related release of these material must be appropriately limited and redacted in

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accordance with the open public's record act. Where uh where we stand today is simple. Theformational phase is complete. The independent review phase is complete. We are now at a decision point. Each commissioner must make their selection based on their own review,

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their own judgment, and what they believe is in the best interests of the city of Milville. Um, with that, I will also add on that since I was part of the process of creating what happened um along with our economic development director, I am recusing myself from a

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final vote. Um, that and for other reasons as well. Uh I I just want to make sure that everyone knows I am not I have not uh weighed in with any of the commissioners on who I think uh should be ranked uh how they're ranked or or any sort of opinion. I have not given

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any sort of opinion myself. And with that, I'd like to open it up. I'll start with the vice mayor. Have you uh reviewed the information? And uh would you like to start discussion? >> Yeah, first of all uh thank you uh to uh Mr. Couch and yourself and the

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committee. Um, very well documented, very well professionally presented. Um, you could tell the time they took and the fairness that seems to be across the

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board. The writeups were given. It would they were easy to understand. They were easy to filter through. Um, >> I can't imagine how much time they took to put that together. But >> I'll jump in there real quick with you, Vice Mayor. Um, a little less formal today. we can jump in. Um, we went out

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of our way to make sure this process was as unbiased as possible. Um, we wanted the everyone to have a fair shot at uh, getting the license and we know there's a lot of competitiveness getting this license. >> Are you on >> keep >> a lot of competitiveness to this

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license. So, we uh, we wanted to make it as unbiased and fair and objective as possible. >> You're still not yourself talking. You want me to keep vamping for you? >> Okay, there we go. >> Are you good? >> I'm good. >> Sorry. Thank you, Mr. C. I you just hit

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on something that I I neglected to talk about uh the uh the objectiveness of the process. >> But I once again, like I said, I do appreciate the the professionalism that was taken, the time that was taken, and um

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yeah, uh it was very informative. It was easier to go through than I anticipated because there was a lot of great applicants out there. and um that I don't know what we would have done without a committee at least putting everything in a more of a structured

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fairer outline so we can compare apples to apples. So I want to thank you guys and the committee. >> Let me nudge this along. Is there after reviewing the uh the materials to you? Was there an applicant that stood out to you that you would like to uh choose at

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this point? >> Yes. Uh did you want to do that today or Tuesday? I think we would do that today as a matter of discussion with each other >> and then if there's uh >> any discussion or you know further things you want to go back and look at in the applications as we talk about it

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>> uh we can uh see how we all feel and we could come to a consensus today if you like or if >> absolutely >> uh we could get to the point where if you want to go back and look at the materials again you could also do that. So, I looked back and forth many times because uh you know, you had to take a large quantity and kept narrowing it

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down. Um so, there seemed to be one that just stuck out. Nothing to do with the rest of them. A lot of gray applicants. It's just my personal opinion after reviewing them. Uh Taste of Earth um is the one I would recommend.

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>> All right. [snorts] Thank you, uh Vice Mayor Ka. Um >> and there do you want to go over the factors too? Uh because >> Sure. If you'd like to talk about that, that would be great. >> So a lot of it it looks like um and what I like what they did was um it seems a

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very localowned company. I noticed that they already have a business that's established. Uh I saw recommendations from um the government body there, which to me held a lot of weight. A few of them had ongoing ones, but it seemed like it was I just like how it was a lot

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of Milville operation being done um internally with their things and who they're going to use and things like that that stood out to me. So, that was one of the the big deciding factors when I narrowed it down to my top three or four and then chose them. But, like I

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said, it it took a lot of time and uh that's that's how I made my decision. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor. Um um Miss uh Commissioner Taylor, would you like to um discuss any of this? >> Sure. Um [clears throat]

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I I personally I really like the way it was done. Um it made I it just made it easier on me. Um we [clears throat] had uh you know eight eight applicants. >> It was a total of nine. >> Nine. Okay. >> What was it? Was nine then it went down

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to eight, right? >> Yes. Um, I like the the the scoring. I like the, you know, the questions that were asked and the way that everybody that submitted in binders and

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information separated. It really made a job easier to look over, you know, all of the applicants. Um, I liked uh I kind of based my on the scoring process at first to to come with like a

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top five and then I you know weeded that down you know into a top three. Um I I really I really think the presentation by um uh Taste of Earth was also my top

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choice. Um they their presentation was was very well put together. Um they had a lot of like Commissioner K said they had a lot of uh supporting documents and stuff like that and uh I was just impressed with uh with the way theirs

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was put together. So, thank you. >> The whole process I kudos to, you know, everybody that put that together because that was that made a tough job a lot easier, you know, to to look things over. >> Yeah, I I will concur with you without

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giving any opinion that there were a lot of great applicants, Commissioner Taylor. Um, you know, it it was a tough decision for every everyone here to make. So, but uh you know, you're correct. There were a lot of good applicants and uh you know I'm I'm glad you guys took the time to really go

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through it. Uh Commissioner Reinella. >> Yeah, I want to um thank the committee for working really hard and um Mr. Couchy. Uh it was very neat, orderly um easy to digest the way uh it was presented. Um a lot of great applicants.

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Um and uh actually vice [clears throat] mayor had uh already touched on some of the things that I wanted to say. um about uh you know a previous uh local business. Um and um I thought Taste of

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Earth really stood out amongst the applicants, but uh they were all really good applicants and every packet was pretty um very well prepared and easy to digest. >> Thank you, Commissioner Row. Commissioner Cons,

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>> I also have to agree with Taste of Earth. Um, their presentation booklet was very easy to go through as the others were also, but they did hit on all the major points that we were looking for. And I do like the fact that

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they are local and I like the fact that he is using a lot of local pe business people for his business. So, that keeps it into our town and I think that's a good idea. Um, I do like the on-site security guard. That's that was a highlight a highlight and it was very

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everyone did a wellressearched job but these this company just stood out to me so I have to go with that. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you Commissioner Kman and I will jump in there and I will uh also give credit to um Joe Couch who I

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think we talked just about every day. Um there were a lot of people calling him every day. probably got five, six, seven calls a day at least on on cannabis. So, um he's worked very hard. I can't even really describe how hard he's worked on it. So, I want to say thank you for

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everything you've done, Mr. Couchy. Uh you've done a great job with this process. I think this process was done in a fair, professional, very informative way and uh that's because of how how hard you worked at it and uh thank you for everything you've done. you know, we worked really hard at

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keeping it fair to everybody and uh I think we did a good job at that and uh you know, thank you for commissioners for taking the time to actually go through and and look at all the information. Uh I do appreciate that because that was a lot of work and I appreciate all the time you guys took

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looking through all that stuff. Um great job. >> All right, Madam Cler. Yes, we do have a few ordinances for second reading. An ordinance amending chapter 30 land use regulations. >> All right, I'm going to jump in on that

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one. Um I unfortunately [clears throat] have another statement to make. Um and um I'll say real quick that we did go to the planning board meeting uh and the planning board did determine that this was um uh it aligned this this

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ordinance aligned with our land use policy. Um, so it came back with a vote of 8 to one and uh that was a very long meeting. It went from uh 6:30 to about I think it was after 10 o'clock. >> Um, and that's and that's why I kind of

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want to take the time just to go over this. I want to have this on the record. Um, and I want to start with this. developers uh are making promises to the people in the city and they generally make four promises to us and those promises I don't think hold up and the

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first promise is that data centers will generate major tax revenue and in reality these projects are routinely built on long-term tax abatements and incentive packages. I know that they've asked for 20 30 40 50 year tax

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abatements so it doesn't really hold up. A lot of analysis show that um in projects around the United States that tax breaks can exceed $2 million per each permanent job that they get.

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Um so there's not a very there's not very much of a a net fiscal gain that the that the city gets from that. you know, the fact that that you say, "Hey, this is going to be a ratable and it's going to bring it just doesn't doesn't hold when you're asking for a 30 or 50 year

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tax evadement." The next thing is data centers bring high-paying jobs. Data centers are not labor intensive. They're capital intensive for in infrastructure. Most data centers only employ between 25 and 150 permanent workers. Typical

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staffing is only 0.15 and 35 employees per megawatt. That's very low. Um, some analysis show that averages are only 27 employees per facility. So, the next promise that we have of highpaying jobs, it just doesn't it just doesn't uh flush

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out. Closed loop cooling system means minimal water use or pollution. These advanced systems still require large volumes of water for heat rejection. They often rely on evaporation, means water is permanently

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consumed and not returned. And a lot of times they discharge heated water or chemically charged water back down into the aquifer. So [clears throat] there's a lot of data, peer-reviewed research that shows that um that is not exactly

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true. Another promise, residents water energy bills won't be affected. Evidence shows the opposite risk. Data centers consume massive massive electricity loads often comparable to entire towns. Utilities must build new generation substations

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and transmission. These costs are often shifted to rate payers unless explicitly prevented by law. Real world reporting shows that rapid data center expansion is already driving electricity demand spikes and infrastructure costs, creating upward pressure on rates.

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Without strict cost allocation rules, data center shift infrastructure cost onto the public. And the last thing, this is a fifth thing, uh quality of life. They won't impact quality of life. And we already know that they they are creating noise for nearby residents. Um

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they operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, producing continuous low frequency noise from cooling system, fans, and mechanical equipment along with intermittent high decibel bursts from backup generators. Um, these generators aren't even

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running in Vinland yet. There's, I think, 38 generators coming to the the operation center in Violin. Um, and they're not even up and running yet. So, I think the commission along with me feels very similar. I don't want to speak for them.

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they can speak for themselves. But I think with all these concerns, and there's more concerns than this, but if the city's not making any money and it's not getting any jobs and we're giving tax abatements and there's a risk of environmental pollution, there's a risk

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of, you know, consuming all our resources and higher electricity bills, why would anybody want a data center in their town? I can't see it. Uh the evidence seems to be pretty clear so far. At least the risk is pretty clear.

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So for that reason, I am for the data center ban. I'll continue to be for it until such time that someone can show us that these risks are not a real risk anymore. There may be a time where someone can come to this commission and

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say, listen, this is the new technology. It consumes a tenth of the electricity it used to consume. It doesn't use any water and there's no pollution and there's no noise. I think this commission would agree with me that that would be a win if somebody could come to us and tell us that and uh we would

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perhaps change our mind in the future. But at this point with all the question marks around data centers, I think it's uh we're elected to keep the citizens of this city safe and to look out for the it's not about what I want. It's not about what these commissioners want.

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It's about keeping the citizens of this city safe uh from harm. And I think this data center ban goes a long way to do that. Um I'd like to open it up for discussion. >> I mean I I think you said enough. Uh >> I'm sorry I bored you, but I thought that needed to be said.

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>> I'm not saying it didn't. Uh but yeah, so uh this is a second reading by now. So I I think we uh pretty much um stated what you know my opinion is and as well I definitely back up. Yeah. After the planning board meeting, we had a lot of

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people come to the podium and I was more or less addressing a lot of the concerns, you know, the that were were talked about. The planning board wasn't really they were only supposed to rule in consistency, but we had about two hours worth of public testimony about how

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great data centers were in so many different ways. And I think that there's evidence just doesn't support it. So, >> agree. >> Thank you, Mr. Khan. Any anyone else? No, I just uh just to echo something you uh well not echo but just to clarify. >> Commissioner, could you pull your microphone toward you?

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>> Sorry. >> Thank you. [snorts] >> Everyone wants to hear you. >> Just clarifying uh I I think your intention was to be in general you were talking about, you know, developers coming to different uh commissions, council members, etc. I just wanted to point out I don't believe that any

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developers have come to us and promised us anything. Uh because that that has definitely never happened to me and I don't believe it's ever happened to any of us. But in general, >> yeah, to we have not we have not had anyone come to um to us. >> I just wanted to clarify that >> and and give us a plan for a data

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center. >> Right. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Commissioner. That's that's a great point. At at no point so far has anybody uh come to the planning board, a zoning board, or this commission and asked to put a data center in the city. >> Right. Thank you,

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>> Commissioner Cosby. just the fact of what you had touched base on if in the future they come to us and say this is safe we're not using all this what but until then no no it's too unknown and I've seen too many times in my life of

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the unknown of oh this is okay to do and it's caused more harm than good so I am definitely on board with you thank you >> thank you commissioners [clears throat] all right we can move So, >> did you already speak? >> No, you skipped.

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>> Oh, I skip I'm sorry, Commissioner Commissioner Taylor. I saved the best for last. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> Sorry about that. >> So, everybody knows my position on the data center thing. So, in my research, I don't research the grassroots. I don't

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research the political groups, that kind of thing. I look at what it's doing to farmers, hunters, uh, residents, you know, that these things just pop up. And, you know, you have families that are being affected

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that have lived on neighboring farms for years and years and generations and generations that now have to live on farms with a data center next to them. that is, you know, hurting livestock.

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It's, you know, hurting people, obviously the environment. Um, and, you know, it's it's sportsmen and hunters and fishermen and stuff like that that, you know, that I look at because it is a quality of life issue, a very big

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quality of life life issue. And that's just not something I'm willing to put, you know, on the citizens of Milville or myself. I'm not I'm not going to do it. Um I think that this ordinance that we're coming up with is absolutely the

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right direction to go. I really do. >> That's what I got. Thank you, Commissioner Taylor. >> An ordinance authorizing a coin drop for Millville Girls Softball League on June 20th and 21st, 2026 at Buck Sheenan Cedarville Road.

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This is the, you know, the standard uh coin drop uh for the softball team um or for the softball league, sorry. Um it's just the uh standard permitting and ordinance that we have for them. >> Okay.

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>> An ordinance authorizing the revisions to sewer search charge, concentration limits, industrial wastewater searchcharge calculations, and elimination of trading credits. Yeah, we discussed this um during the last meeting. Just to recap, um improving sewer charge fees because

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the overall sewer uh the o overall search charge cap is going to remain at 5 to 25%. Uh it'll have no impact on residential customers, doesn't restrict business operations, and essentially is looking to uh protect treatment plant capacity, encourage

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cleaner discharges, ensure fast uh fair cost sharing, and overall support long-term city growth. [snorts] >> Ordinances for first reading, an ordinance to exceed the municipal budget appropriation limits and to establish a cap bank. [snorts]

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Yeah. So, um it it's the cap used to be 2.0 to 2.5. Um this has been going on for a long time. It just allows us to go up to 3.5. Doesn't mean we're going to um it's based on the 2025 budget. It doesn't mean that the

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taxes are raised to that. It just gives us the allowable uh calculation that u we have been doing for years already. And anything that does not go can go into the cap bank. Um there was a cap um some left over from the last budget in

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that bank. So it's just standard um uh accounting things that um the city does, but it has to be passed by a resolution um up to 3.5 allowable. >> Thank you, Commissioner K. >> Resolutions. Resolution authorizing tax

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and utility adjustments. >> It's it's Yeah, once again, it's just adjustments made of a tax collector's office for sewer, solid waste, water. >> Resolution authorizing the tax collector to add back deductions to properties due

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to post annual tax statement not returned. >> Uh so these are um ones that are being charged back to that might have not filled out a um the application properly. Uh okay. I just want to make sure. I saw

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you over there. Rick's blocking us, but I just I'm sorry. forms. So by state >> Thank you. And uh just for those who couldn't hear, so uh for a deduction they everybody has until March 1st. Uh we gave them all the way to April 1st.

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So by law we have to uh charge that back. Uh it's that $250 deduction. Thank you. Resolution authorizing disabled veteran property tax exemption in accordance with NJSA54-3. >> Yeah. So, uh, anytime somebody applies

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for this exemption, um, for the disabled vet, there has to be a resolution. This resolution is just adding one more disabled vet to the >> Oh, so this is not a new resolution. >> This is not um, Right. It's adding somebody to that category. So, >> do you know how many people that that like take make uh,

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>> disabled vet? Do we know how many? >> Very small. >> Just out of curiosity. >> Wow. 130 disabled vets. >> Deserve it for serving the country, too. So good. >> It's it's good for this person that he was able to get on this. It's just a

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shame that, you know, >> um >> he he did give to our country, right? >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you, Commissioner C. resolution appointing a temporary purchasing agent for the city of Milville pursuant to NJSA4A

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11-9. >> Yes, our purchasing agent was part-time to begin with. Um we we do want to uh thank Miguel for his time here. Um he did uh his time ran out on April 30th. We do appreciate him helping out. Um he

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really helped the city for uh in the meantime. He was splitting time between a couple cities. Um so we do appreciate it. So, we are appointing uh you know, we have to appoint a temporary uh purchy agent. We're going to appoint our CFO for now um to get us through. Um it does

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allow us to do that. It does allow us to do uh up to one year and maintain the previous uh city uh purchasing threshold. Um so, uh yes, thought it was something else. >> All right. Thank you, Vice Mayor.

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>> Resolution to appoint a public agency compliance officer in accordance with the New Jersey Administrative Code. >> All right, we need to separate these so you guys can give me a break once in a while. But um so once again, uh Miguel was the um the p I'm not going to say

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the acronym. You're not going to make me, but the purchasy agent compliance officer. Um you can use acronym, [laughter] you can make it up yourself. Um so we're just assigning uh the the city clerk which is already the custodian records to be um that

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compliance officer. >> Thank you. Vice Mayor K. >> Resolution authorizing the discharge of mortgage for 1121 Robin Terrence. So, uh, we have a CBDG grant that allows, um, people to take, uh,

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advantage of loans and this, uh, individual or this, uh, family was able to pay it off. Uh, so we're just discharging that from their mortgage now. >> And we're going to be doing more of that. We're going to be as we get our CB I think our CBDG funds are a little underused underutilized and we're going

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to be reaching out to the community um and utilizing those a little more in the future which is a great thing. >> Resolution authorizing an interlocal services agreement for the 2026 household hazardous waste and document shredding collection days. Okay, this is

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something that we do three times a year in conjunction with uh the city of Vineland and city of Milville and the CCIA where you can take shredding. We do it for free. You have a lot of hazardous waste. You can take it over and dump it

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and I will have specific dates and I will even have a little brochure on Tuesday. >> Thank you, Commissioner Cosmo. >> And then we do just have two special events for approval. One is the hope day event which is June 6, 2026 from 12 to 3

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as well as the farmers market which will be Thursdays from June 4th to October 29th. >> Yeah. [clears throat] So just to talk a little bit about um let's pick uh well both of them. Hope's been going on for a long time. Um it's

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usually at and let me backtrack. Would you like I'm going to No, go ahead. >> I just stepped right over top. I was on a roll today. [laughter] I'm sorry. >> You want it? >> I don't know when to stop. >> You don't know when to stop. You don't know when to stop. >> The look came down here. [laughter] >> You could feel the pressure on you. >> Did you feel it?

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>> So, we're having the hope center in the farmers market. Go ahead, Marissa. Would you like that? >> Stole all of her thunder. >> I did, too. Oh, man. Terrible. >> She had a whole >> I'll talk about the farmer's already. So, uh the farmers market. This is uh we're really excited about this.

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So, every um Thursday uh from June until probably October, we're trying to hold a farmers market at Captain Buck Park. They they right now have and I'm probably off by now because it's probably old information, but 11 to 15

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vendors um with fruits, vegetables, flowers, uh I just learned honey. >> I Yeah, I think >> all kinds of vendors. >> Yes, they have different vendors coming out. It's from 4:00 to 7:00 in the evening. We want to get Captain Buck Park up and uh thriving again and

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hopefully that helps a little get more traffic down here. Um hopefully it will flow on the high street a little bit but it it a lot of excitement for this u I know it's see there's people that will come from outside the community for this. Uh there's been talk and

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promotions already um about it. So we're excited for this. So, >> Vice Mayor, if and are you going to say I was just >> No, I'm just sharing in my excitement. >> All right. I I [laughter] would like to say uh would you like to tell people how they could be involved in this? If uh they would like to be involved in this,

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who who they should contact, how they should go about that? >> Yeah. So, uh it's a local uh business out on West Main Street, um Kamari Farm Market. Um once again, we we have a few out there. She it's a family-owned business, so um feel free to go out there. Um they have everything from

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flowers, trees, vegetables. Uh but she's sort of running it right now. Um so if anybody's interested out there, uh feel free to reach out to her. She's all over Facebook. >> So if you find her on Facebook, um >> she would be excited to have anybody wants to come. This is not her market.

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She's just the central point of it. And she welcomes everybody to come to it. >> Excellent. >> Yeah. Nothing. >> Nothing. Yeah. just as she loves this community and >> definitely she is very good >> and and hope day is a big time too, right? That's a

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>> um that's been going on I I don't even know how long it's feels like it's been forever, but that's at the old uh Milville Gardens on Dockan Foundry. Um so that's they got activities. Um it's it's a pretty neat thing to attend. It is ran by all the local churches. Um so

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yeah, >> good. I'm sure we'll all be there. >> All right. Thank you, Vice Mayor K. Yeah, I think you've spoken enough for one day. Um, [laughter] I'm kidding. Um, we have now reached the public comment portion of our meeting. Anyone who would

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like to address the commission, please go to the podium, state your name and address and your concerns, please limit your comments to approximately five minutes. >> Hi. >> Oh, Jesus. >> Do not break our microphone.

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I think it's okay. Um, Steve Solaf, Vinland, informed the vote. NJ, I'm just wondering if I can borrow uh Commissioner Taylor uh after the meeting for five minutes to discuss something. >> Absolutely not. [laughter]

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>> And it might not be a bad idea for Mayor Dixon to be clued in to that conversation as well. Thank you. >> That was easy, >> Mary from Milville. Once again, going back to the data centers, the one thing

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that I didn't mention before was you're right, Mayor Dixon, they don't employ that many people. At first, there's a lot of a lot of jobs offered in construction, but once the

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construction is completed, that's it. They're done. So then you put them back on the unemployment line. So that's going to raise the unemployment level. So that's going to decrease again. But the thing main thing of it is I

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appreciate the fact that this commission is willing to come up with some form of a document to stop them from coming here. But the thing of it is when I said you need to make it one step further, what you are presenting

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and are going to vote on is going to stop him for this commission. But that's not going to stop them from years from now coming back and reiterating this. We need to go one step further. And I'm not one to really

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believe in follow the leader, but in this case, I'm kind of agreeing with what Monroe Township is doing. They had well over 150 people attend their commission

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meeting back in March and they've discovered that they really need to go one step further to ban them permanently because they're slipping things in under the radar, slipping it in under the rug.

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They tell you one thing and it ends up being something different. And if people in Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Tennessee are putting videos out there showing the impact that these data centers are

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causing now. And they're not even in our state. And our state has 80 of them. And most people don't realize, but anything over 85 dB in sound is a destruction to not

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only animals, but it's also destructive to people. And we've already got enough people that swear up and down. They can't hear you when you're talking to them face to face, much let alone shouting clear across the room. Imagine what that's going to cause

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if we don't go further. I appreciate the fact that this commission is willing to say no, but I do believe we need to go one step further and I thank you again. >> Thank you, mayor. >> Thanks, mayor. >> Since this is kind of an informal work session where we get to learn and we

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have our solicitor here who is probably one of the smartest people I know. Are is any ordinance truly permanent, Mr. Solicitor? I mean, just >> one of the smartest people, you know, you need to expand. [laughter] >> Just take the comp compliment and run.

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that I don't believe that you can do that. I think that the ordinance that we have here in the town uh could be modified at a later date by elected officials and that's kind I mean forever is a mighty long time and so to

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mayor to your point earlier what if the technology improved to the point where they consume very little power there was no cooling necessity for them and they brought a benefit to the community in terms of jobs and they there was no environmental

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risk to it or and there was no noise level etc. All the concerns that we have now and that technology changed a permanent ban would mean that you'd never be able to address that. So I

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I am unaware of what Monroe is doing to quote make it a permanent ban. Um give me some information. I'd be happy to to take a that. But my my understanding is that

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that really can't be done making it quote unquote permanent. I think what the town has done though is made it very very clear to outsiders and made it arduous to go back and undo it,

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right? Because can't say never, but you put it before the planning board. They reviewed it. They found that it's consistent with the master plan. You could always adust the The ordinance can always be redone. Again, it's just a

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a more arduous path to get this undone. I think you guys have made it very clear to anybody that's attended this room and quite frankly anybody that bothers to read our ordinances, our master plan, that this is not a place that welcomes

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that type of a project. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate the insight. >> Hello, Laura Burns, Milville, New Jersey. I just have a reminder. Um, today is Wendy Marcato's official

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retirement date. So, you're going to need to appoint a local registar. >> Um, we need that by statute. So, just a reminder and thank you for the data center. >> You're welcome.

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>> All right. Is that everyone? Seeing no one at the podium, I will close the public comment portion of the meeting. Let's move to comments on commissioners. Uh, Commissioner Taylor. [clears throat] >> So, I just have a couple things. Uh, the

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officer Chris Reeves 5K run is tomorrow. It starts at 9:00 am here behind the police department. Um uh and last Friday, >> not not to correct it. >> It's not starting at Rick Avenue this year.

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>> I don't know. I thought they I don't know. >> I think it starts at Rick Avenue to uh to the cemetery. >> Okay. It might >> they had to change it because of walkway. >> Gotcha. >> So >> yeah, that might be correct. I thought

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they did a ceremony behind the police department to start and then went out there. But that I tried to get a hold of Kenny, but he was busy. [laughter] Um, last Friday we swore in uh 10 officers,

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which is putting us well on our way uh to 85 officers for the city. Um, which is one of my goals that I wanted for the first year in office. Um, we also have

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another four scheduled for the next academy. It's going to be in June, which should put us at 84, I believe. And as long as we don't have any injuries or others, we should be ready to go at 85,

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which will allow us to create uh the special units again, bring back the special units. And uh the chief is excited and his command staff is excited to uh get that ball rolling again. >> Um we should be able to have something

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possibly by June in that aspect. >> It's awesome. >> So and then next year's a different story, but I want to increase that next year. There's a different goal for next year. Good. >> That's all I have. >> Thank you, Commissioner Taylor. Vice not

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yet. Um, Commissioner Reinella, so used to you talking today, I just wanted to go with you. >> So, in addition to uh the Christopher Ree run tomorrow, uh, we also have uh, the Milville Historical Society's Mount Pleasant Cemetery Tour. It got washed

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out. It was a rain, it rained unfortunately, the last time they were trying to do that on a Saturday. So, they're going to be doing that tomorrow uh at 2 PM. So, if anybody wants to take that tour, uh they'll get to see uh the resting place of mayors and those who

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help to shape Milville. And you know, it's an educational journey there. On May 7th, we're also having National Day of Prayer that we have every year, um 12:00 p.m. in front of City Hall. So, for those that would like to join in prayer, uh they can meet out front at

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12:00 p.m. on May 7th. and I'll be giving a report and sharing all sorts of good things that are taking place and uh that we've been working on during the meeting. Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Renelloo.

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Commissioner Kasibu >> really don't have much to say other than um congratulations to the officers that were sworn in. That's always good news for us. Also to thank Mr. Couchi and the committee for the extensive work that

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you did for the cannabis store. And that's basically about it for me. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner House. >> See everyone on Tuesday, >> Vice Mayor C. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Uh yeah. Well, once again, uh not a lot to say. Um

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the this room was packed the other day for the 10 officers. That was great to see. It was standing room only. Luckily, we got out there before Chief Wetstein showed up. Um, there was a lot of people here. Uh, it was encouraging to see. Um, looking forward to seeing the police

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department back to full staff. Uh, so that's awesome, Laura. I'm going to check. Um, I'm glad you brought that up. I thought it was the end of the month. I thought it was May 31st. >> So, that's a big difference. Um, so I added a three probably because that's my birthday and that's very important to

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everybody, I'm assuming. Um, >> when's your birthday? >> May 31st. >> You know when mine is >> already >> May 30th. >> That doesn't surprise me. Always right behind me. Um, but anyway, >> I'm actually ahead of you. >> I know. As soon as I [laughter] said that, I knew that came out wrong. >> Came out wrong.

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>> I was hoping you didn't catch that. Yeah, >> I tried to sneak that in there. >> Yeah, I wasn't going to let that one go. >> Well, uh, thank you. I will check on that. Um, because that is important. So, um, but yeah, that that's about it. Once again, I want to thank that committee and Joe and all of our city employees

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and our administrator for the amount of work that's been being done that a lot of people don't get to see from top to bottom. And there's a lot going on uh that we don't talk about at the meetings or can't talk about because they're, you know, different either processes we're

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going through or personnel we're dealing with. But, um, what a great group of people we have. So, >> thank you, Vice Mayor Con. I do I do like a lot of people say don't talk about these uh these things that are happening or in process um until they're

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there. I I don't always agree with that because I like to let the people know, you know, what's coming when we can tell them what's coming down the pipe and I'd like to mention that we are revamping our website. I'm not going to get in any details about that, but that will go a

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long way to a lot of the letting people know what's going on in in the city with the departments with the with the government that you see in front of you with the at the events that are going on the city. It's going to be our uh Mr. Berman is working very hard at that and

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very happy with the direction we're going so far. But uh if it goes the way I think it's going to be a wonderful resource to the people of this city as far as transparency of the government and of what happens in the city where there will be no confusion out there on

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what projects happening here and and what's happening here and what's going on there and where is the uh the run starting and uh things like that where you see on Facebook and social media things start and then by the time you get to the end of the comment chain you

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know the world's exploding. So, uh, this website, I I'm I'm happy to be a part of it and, uh, very excited to see where this is going to take, uh, uh, how it's going to take shape. But that's something that's coming down the pike. I'm going to save the rest of my comments for, uh, for Tuesday and my

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report for Tuesday. But, uh, as always, commissioners, thank you very much for all of your hard work. I see what you do every day when you're in here and, uh, always very impressed and appreciative of the hard work you guys put in. And with that, can I get a motion to adjurnn?

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>> Make a motion. Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinella, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Some with that we are journed.