like to call this meeting order for April 7th, 2026. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> here. >> Vice Mayor Cot >> here. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> present. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> here. >> Mayor Dixon, >> here. If you'd like to rise with me, we're going to have an invocation from
Pastor Jamie Bradham. >> Would you just bow your heads with me tonight? We come before you wise and heavenly father and I give you thanks on behalf of all who are gathered here today. I thank you for your many many abundant
blessings that you bestow on us. Thank you Lord for life itself. Thank you for the ability to be involved in useful work and for the honor of bearing the great responsibilities placed on our commissioners to you in prayer this evening. In the scriptures, you have
said that citizens ought to obey the governing authorities established to promote peace and order and justice. And therefore, uh, I pray for our mayor and this panel of city commissioners. And I'm asking that you graciously grant them wisdom to govern amid the conflicting interest and issues of our
times, a sense of the welfare and true needs of the people of Milville, that you give them confidence in what is good and fitting. that you give them the ability to work together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement. I pray for the agenda set before them
tonight. Lord God, please give us an assurance of what would please you and what would benefit those who live and work in and around our beloved city of Milville. We give you praise. We give you honor. And we give you glory. In the precious name of Jesus we pray. Amen. >> Amen. Please join me in salute to the
flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[clears throat] >> This meeting is being conducted in accordance with the open public meetings act of 1975. was advertised, posted, and made available to the public as required by statute. The municipal clerk is directed to include a statement in the
minutes of this meeting. Before we move on to public comments on the agenda items only, uh, appreciate everybody being here. I have a vague feeling why there's so many people here. Um, you are all welcome to come to the, uh,
uh, the podium and give your opinions on on agenda items now and anything you like later. Just want to let you guys know that the city, the the commissioners you see here have been very consistent in our uh wanting to
prohibit data centers. Uh ordinances don't fall from trees. Uh this is something that the the commission put forward and we're all in agreement of. Um you don't have to come to the podium and uh persuade us to vote on this. This is something that we already plan on voting for. So uh glad you're here to to
voice your support. glad you're here to uh you know jump in. If you want to come in and say pat us on the back and tell us we're awesome. Would love to hear that for once. Um but uh if you'd like to do that, absolutely come up and do that. But uh or even if you're dissenting to this ordinance, everybody
has the right to come up here and say what they want. But uh this now we move to public comments on agenda items only. We have now reached the public comment portion on agenda items only. Anyone who would like to address the commission, please go to the podium, state your name and address and your concerns. Please
limit your comments to approximately five minutes. >> Hi, my name is Adele Fast from Main Street in Millville. Um, I think you know which resolution I wanted to talk about and I just I had a question. And I don't know if you're able to answer it
or not, but I do see in the language of the resolution specific language prohibiting existing structures from being used for data centers. I did not see any specific language about new construction and I wanted to know if
that was included in the prohibition. Um, and I do want to pat you on the back and say you're awesome for this. Thank you very much. >> I appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Fa. Mrs. Fast, sorry about that. Hi, commissioners. Um, my name is Jenna Yullet Williams. I'm actually a
currently a resident of Vinand, but I was a resident of Millville for over 30 years, and my parents still do reside here. Um, I'm speaking today regarding the ordinance that we're all here for, I'm assuming. Um, but we are currently in the midst of everything that's going
on in Vinand. Um, and it's nice to have a change in energy and finally feel some pride and encouragement over what you guys do have in front of you right now. Um, again, I was a class of 2007 Milville graduate. Um, I always watch Milville try to follow in violence
footsteps as far as development um, within the city. So, thank you for taking a step back from that and for trying to do something that would show the public that you are listening and that you do care. Um, I feel like violin has become a case of what not to do regarding data centers. I don't know if
you know this or not, but the ordinance that you guys have has been making the rounds online um as what an ordinance banning data centers should look like. Um, so I think that's uh pretty substantial. um other cities
[clears throat] uh I know Monroe Township specifically um are already using it as framework to prop propose their own data center ordinances. So kudos to whoever wrote it, but um I want you guys to think about that for a minute. Violin is the bad example, but you guys have the opportunity to make
Millville the good example in South Jersey. Um I feel like that's really huge and Milville could use some good PR. Um you know, I'm I'm not going to go on and on about why data centers are bad. Um, but I do really want to applaud you. So, thank you. Thank you. Um, I
feel like we're living in a time with a lot of public trust in politicians, but you guys, I feel like, are going to be able to change that for your city for passing this through. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Williams. >> Thank you. [applause] Hi uh Tamara Davis. Um I just have one
quick question on the data center ordinance which um probably would have um would uh require some explanation to the public as well. So can that particular ordinance at any time be amended, repealed, revoked, rewritten,
or replaced after you adopt it? Um I know you're probably one commission away. So is it a permanent deal or what? So that's something that would have to be considered and discussed. Now I am my point here uh my point of discussion here is to talk about the
resolution dealing with the um NAB Avenue and the I'm sorry not that CRP which includes NAB Avenue which I don't have here it is um number eight resolution under item number eight and I understand the rec the uh bond and how
it's going to be paid out and I understand that that you will get $400,000 which I'm assuming as soon as the land on April 15th when they close on the property and then you could use it as as needed um [clears throat] for improvements, not
necessarily um NAB Avenue, but most likely it will maybe go towards that. But here's the questions I have as far as u that closing. So with that land acquisition, when does the pilot start? Does it start
on that day? Um, and what will be the payment with the bond regardless when when it starts, which assuming I don't know when it's going to be. Um, [clears throat]
and um, has the pilot been amended according to this first amendment agreement? Because I'm sure there's dates in the pilot agreement that probably match with the original development agreement. So, have those dates been changed with the um, pilot? But the big thing is what is the pilot
payment with the bond incorporated into it. Um in addition assuming that there is one of the conditions that were described in one of the schedules is there has to be power available for the phase 2 and phase three
of the project. So assuming that there's enough power for phase one, what are the steps to increase the power for and when I say power, I'm referring to electrical power um for phase two and three because
it looks like the date to start phase 2 is January 2028. So no later than January 1st, 2028. That's the completion of construction drawings, plans, and specifications for phase two. So this is a quick turnaround
to make sure that they the CRP has enough power for those warehouses as well as that there's some uh movement on NAB Avenue. Now there is a proposed date proposed NAB avenue extension date. So
what is that date? I think somewhere in the um agreements that the date for NAB Avenue is April 1st of 2027. So, you have about a year and can that timeline be met? Um, [clears throat]
and I think that that's all my questions. So, and and if you're not able I'm being honest here. If you're not able to answer that any of those questions because this has been discussed and I know you're going to say, "Oh, we just brought this project on. It was the previous
commission." And I understand that, but you have plenty time to review it. Um, if you're not able to answer any of those questions with any kind of positive being, maybe you should table this. I know $10 million is great plus $400,000 or $10.2 million is great, but
there are probably contingencies or there's probably an agreement within the um closing paperwork that you could probably move it or table this and then um make a decision decision on it at a later time. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Mrs. Davis.
Good evening, Angeline Broom Hall. You all know know how I feel about death center and I'm really excited like really excited that you guys are doing this. You have no idea. I sometimes it's like really hard to to give credit, right? Because I'm always so used to complaining, but kudos. um
the uh redevelopment bond with CRP. Again, I know you guys didn't um start this project and the $10 million sounds really exciting. However, um we didn't have our engineer at the um
planning board meeting. Again, this was before you, but I thought that was a a a big issue that we didn't have engineering input from our top engineer at that time. Um, now with your commission at the work session, I didn't
see the economic development uh director there. I think that's a huge um issue. We're, you know, we gave this gentleman a huge amount of money and this [clears throat] is the biggest thing
that's come along to Milville in 50 years. >> And to not have our economic development director there, I think was a misstep. I don't see him here tonight. I think that's also a misstep. again the biggest project we've faced. We've had the
potential to have and uh we're not getting professional staff involved and especially what a great person that would have been to bridge the gap between the prior commission and this commission who's been there then and now to uh help answer your questions
as well as ours. But unfortunately, we're not getting that. Um I also want to discuss the necessity for this project and uh the dependence on NAV a one we don't own all the land that NAV a we don't have that control we only have
a very small control of that project potential project um and it's also important to know that uh the 252 budget that was uh the congressional budget that was submitted um Cy Booker put been
well over a million dollars and it was cut from uh the congressional earmarks. He had money for NAB a for Millville and um it was a lot of money that the federal government cut from Corey
Booker's budget for this project and if we can't get federal, state, and county support on this humongous project that is depend that CRP is saying if you don't do it, we got nothing for you. And
if we put the cart before the horse and we can't even get the money Corey Booker's trying to fight for us, we don't have it. We cannot promise something that we don't have. Um, so th those are my uh two thoughts on
those two uh issues. Again, thank you for uh the data center for working really hard on that. I'm so amazed with you guys and grateful for that. Thank >> Thank you, Mr. Gerald. >> Thank you. [applause] I'm Tom McGinty. I lived in Milville all
my life. I'm going to be unpopular because I'm one of the ones who is in opposition to the banning of the data center. um along with the blanket banning of other industries named in the proposed ordinance. In the current
economic climate of Milville um along with other areas in the county, we are in dire need of business ratables, jobs, and other activities that generate tax revenue. With this ordinance, you are effectively hamstringing the city from
lucrative, clean, high tech economic opportunities. I believe you're open opening the city up to a major lawsuit. Once again, the uh city is going with
uh making decisions on popular outcry uh where people glean their information from the internet, social social media, what have you. Um, you know, you have owners who have the intent, the right, and the vision to
bring business to our city, and you're saying no, you're not going to do that. Um, a master plan was appro recently approved by the city after much coitation, engineering review, and so forth and so
on, nobody made an effort to say, "Oh, data centers are bad. we can't have a data center in here. We need to put that into the master plan. Nobody has because nobody really knows much about data centers. Um
my thing is industry of any type that can conform to a federal, state or local law that that are, you know, governed, they should be able to locate and operate in an industrial zone whether the commission has a stomach for it or not.
Um, you know, we don't have any professional staff here. What expertness, what expertise does any city commissioner sitting up there right now have to make this decision? How can you outlaw a data
storage center in a community where you have uh server rooms? Your school has servers. Um, I'm sure the racetrack has a server out there. Um, people rely on data. You got to have a place to put it.
Either we, you know, either provide ancillary uh support to data centers or uh have a small data center ourselves. um or somebody else is going to have it
and they're going to reap the benefit and we'll be sitting here watching just like we're watching Vinyl now. They're developing. They're they're downtown looks great. Everything's, you know, they got a lot going on. We have nothing going on.
Okay. To to date, to my knowledge, no entity has proposed to put a data center or operate one in Millville. [crying] Um, there's no plans, there's no proposals, nothing. How can you argue that all data centers are bad if you
don't know anything about them or how they plan to cool, operate, or whatever their data center? There's a lot of technology I wasn't even aware of when I started looking into this situation.
Um, I I just from personal experience, I had a geology an an environmental geology professor at Lehi who was instrumental in the building of the Alaska pipeline. The technological hurdle hurdles and
environmental issues that had to be overcome were akin to sending a rocket to the moon. Perafrost, earthquakes, you name it, it's it's up there. and they build it they build a pipeline
and it delivers oil that's crucial to Canada and us and you know without it you know we'd be tough to have the energy that we have and so forth.
His name was Edisonson. He always stated that if there is a need and there are smart people with the finances to build or do something, everything is possible. The need to hold the project to the planning environmental requirements, the
laws, etc. that protect the citizens and the bugs and the bunnies are what should be held to their feet, not just a blanket. Oh, we don't like data centers. We're not going to let anybody build one.
Okay. Um, >> thank you, Mr. McGinty. >> I'm not done yet. Finally. >> Your time's up, Mr. McGinty. >> Oh, my time is up. >> That's different. >> Paul Paraka, Milville, New Jersey. Um, I've been a real estate broker in
Milville for 35 years. I have a degree in engineering. Um, and I kind of agree with Tom. I don't know if I'm for or against data centers, but I'm against the ordinance. Um,
at the work session, the mayor said that one of the reasons they were passing this ordinance is because they didn't know enough about data centers. That's not a reason to ban something. In New Jersey, it's unconstitutional to use exclusionary zoning unless you have very
very specific reasons for doing it. And without knowing what those reasons are, it should not be written as a ban. One of the things that you can do is you can allow them as a conditional use and then put
requirements that it doesn't do the bad things that you are thinking that they could do. So noise can be attenuated. There's a survey out from a reputable
countrywide uh company that does different surveys and they looked at the electrical costs for states that had data centers and states that didn't have data centers. The electrical
cost in states that did not have data centers was higher than states that had data data centers. And that's based mostly on the cost of producing electricity. If you have more customers to sell more electricity, it obviously
becomes cheaper to each person. Water usage is another problem with them. So right now, Milville dumps all of its waste water into the Mars River, which is highly controlled and very expensive. That waste water can be sold to a data
center. They can clean it up, reuse it, and not dispense it back into the uh just continue to reuse it and pay Millville for that water instead of Millville spending a whole bunch of money cleaning that water up. In fact,
at the work session, you were discussing the UV UV lights and that we have to buy new ones and package them properly and all that's going to be very expensive. Maybe you don't have to clean the water. You tell the data center they got to clean the water. And all of these
technologies are coming about. If you do your research on data centers, there's all sorts of new engineering with them. Whether or not I'm for or against data centers, I'm not sure because obviously there's you can't do all of that research and get all that engineering,
but you can write an ordinance that allows them as a conditional use as long as they do not disturb the things that you think they're going to cause problems with. One of the things is noise. I don't think the m the racetrack makes any noise and that's allowed. I
mean, and that happened. um a lot of things that we need and use have problems associated with them and the goal would be to reduce those problems but still get the tax ratables and provide that service. I thought it
was interesting that a lot of the people that came up and read speeches off of their phones were against data centers. Well, the speech that they're reading is in a data center and they're reading it off their phones, but they don't want
them. Um, that's just some of the thoughts on that. I have a question about the the redevelopment area bond. So, a a bond has to be paid back in some way. And at the work session, the lawyer
said that the bond will be re repaid by the developer, but it's not. It's being repaid by the citizens of Milville because what the developer is required
to pay based upon the three different methods of analyzing what their payment will be under the redevelopment agreement. you're going to subtract the cost of the bond, which means the citizens don't get that money. All this
is is paying it upfront, but the citizens are still paying the 400,000 because the developer is subtracting it from what he's going to be required to pay on an annual basis under the agreement. Unless I'm mistaken with that, and I don't
didn't see where they used the example of if the developer had to pay $100,000 a year, he would only have to pay a net of 86. And I know that those numbers were not realistic. They were just made up, for
example, as you stated in the work session. >> Um, but that's less than the hundred we're supposed to get. So therefore, the taxpayers are paying it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Per. [clears throat]
>> Good evening. My name is Beth Nent and I live on 10th Street in Milville, New Jersey. And I didn't plan to speak tonight, but I did take Mayor Dixon's words of um anticipated appreciation for
support for the data uh ban to heart. And I really do think that as elected officials, you are making some very prudent, proactive decisions in that regard, regardless of whether there may
be some tangible gain to the city monetarily. I think that as stewards of our community, both the elected officials who we put our trust in and we as your constituents
have a duty to be good stewards not just for ourselves. Um I taught for 40 years in both RD Wood School and at Holly Heights and my husband who is unable to be here but would very much have liked
to be. he's ill and cannot. Uh he not only taught at Holly Heights and Lakeside, but he also coached for our illustrious Milville Thunderbolts in various sports. >> He was my gym teacher. >> And yes, and he is a lovely man and he
they say that everything you you know in life comes and can be learned through kindergarten. So maybe I have a little window in that since I spent about 35 of my 40 years there. But my husband has a saying that comes out of the grid iron.
And the saying is don't work harder, work smarter. So for all of those folks who might not think that the ban on the AI center is a work smarter
proposition. I'd like to say that there as I began there are many things that are far more important such as the stewardship of a community that is not impacted negatively [snorts] by things
that are verifiable outside of the social media window. That is not the only place where facts can be gotten. And I appreciate that this council is forwardthinking enough to know that putting in place a ban on
something that has been acknowledgedly and repeatedly questioned an industry for its lack of transparency and for its lack of accountability and its incredibly slim margins of
return to the communities for which it comes to. is a very forwardthinking thing. And as you know the saying goes, learn from history, use it in the present and know that it
is what we as stewards for our future millbilians should expect. And so I'm here kind of a shaking in my shoes, little retired kindergarten lady, but I honestly feel
that you are being proactive stewards as well as elected officials. And a caveat to that would be that we the constituents are paying
attention. Our world has pushed us to a place where we cannot deny what is around us unless we choose to have blinders on. And I appreciate that this commission
has chosen to look forward to look at the present and to factor in the past. All of which influence where this town heads. And yes, acknowledgely
we are not a perfect place, but we are the place that that as Mr. Rogers would say, it's our neighborhood. And the place where you live and the place where you belong is the most
important place to find the helpers. So, this helper in her retired fashion is attempting today through her shaking hands and shaky voice to say thank you. Continue
the hard fight. Fight smart. Uh, and and to end on a little rahrrah, go bolts, be smarter than vin. [applause] >> Thank you, Miss N. You had eight seconds left. That was perfect.
Hi, my name is Rian. I'm a Millville mother of three. I brought them with me just so I could be here tonight. Uh, I am not on social media and I did not prepare anything on my phone. I hope that lends me some credence. I'm just going off the cuff. I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, but I did just want to
point out I think that you guys are probably fairly wellversed in the impact that data centers can have on communities. I think that most people in this room probably are as well. But I wanted to point out a couple things. Uh the first is that when it comes to water consumption, the reason why data centers
they cannot take the waste water from the Morris River township uh from the Morris River and use that in their process. They have to use fresh water. Can't even be salinated. It has to be fresh water. Uh it is used to run through the technology. When met when
meeting with the heat of the technology, it then turns to steam and the steam is released. Uh, so it has to be fresh. What does not turn into steam and release what is left over can be run through a few more times. But then bacteria begins to build up and uh other
uh other other things can build up in that water that will then affect the technology and therefore they have to frequently dump what's left and then refill with fresh water. It has to be fresh water and it is an excessive amount of consumption. Wanted to clarify that. Another thing I wanted to bring up
is when it comes to jobs and the potential benefit to Millville when it comes to jobs. Uh the majority of data centers have been shown to bring 5 to 500 jobs depending on the size of the facility. Those jobs are almost exclusively highly specified positions
that are generally hired remotely which means it is actually a very small percentage of those jobs that hire within the community where the data center is. Uh so it doesn't bring jobs either. It's a uh it has a very as was mentioned very low uh positive impact on
a community and as we know a highly negative impact on the community. Uh the last thing I just wanted to say is I live on Shushenko Avenue and I spent around 5 hours total over Easter weekend uh knocking on doors in my neighborhood letting them know about this issue that
is up for consideration today. The majority of my neighborhood is uh elderly traditional conservative. um many very elderly people who could not be here today just for that reason alone. Uh day before Easter I spoke to
many many people uh and every single person I spoke to I gave out over a 100 flyers. Every single person I spoke to uh had I had conversations about how concerned they are about these data centers and how relieved they are that Milville is considering putting its foot
down where Violin would not. That a lot of those people could not be here today. Uh, but I had out of my over 100 flyers, I probably had at least 55 to 60 conversations with primarily elderly uh Mil Millville residents. So, I just want to let you guys know that uh when it
comes to those residents as well, you're doing right by them by considering this ordinance. Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> Just want to make sure I get my timer out and adhere to that. So, just give me one second. uh commission Victor FA Milville
resident. Um I just have two things to say. Obviously, one is going to be about the ordinance, but another one I'm going to start with a not negative, but just slightly off-putting thing. Um I noticed, and we've talked about this before, public safety is a big thing that I know you guys are desperately trying to fix. You know, my wife has
gone to the chat and shoes recently. That's also seems to be a big thing. I know cameras are on the table and I I definitely support that. My only concern is I know that uh I see in one of the paperworks here that we're looking at the local justice
justice assistance program. The only concern I have is I I know one of the last meetings somebody was talking about potentially bringing in if you guys were looking at AI powered cameras such as the flock system. They're a little bit shady. They tend to target people that
are you know not necessarily you know they could be you know contacted whether it's for a crime or speeding ticket or something. So, I'm not going to dive into that. I just want to bring it to your attention because, you know, it could potentially do more harm than good. You know, if we're if we're banning AI with one thing, it would be a
little weird to bring in another thing. But off with that, on to the ordinance. I definitely have to commend you all cuz I know you guys have only been in a few months. You've been so excited and gung-ho for change and it seems like it's showing. The first night, Mayor, Dixon, you you told a bunch of us that
no AI dentist would you did not want them coming here because it would be a strain on the grid. And I really got to give it up to you guys for sticking to your word with that. As one of the ladies said before, we're living in tumultuous times and looking to our public elected officials in a local manner is so so important. And I'm
really proud to be a Millville citizen. Honestly, like I love living here and it's really cool to see that go by day by day. As far as this band goes, everybody else has already said pretty much everything that I wanted to say in terms of some of the wording. My wife had mentioned, you know, the thing about
new construction versus existing construction. You know, we've seen Bridgton ban and make a rejection. We're seeing Monroe Township make a rejection, especially due to the writings that you guys have within your ordinance. Unfortunately, now we're seeing Grenwich Township in Gloucester potentially have part of the Pinelands being a new
construction. So, I just want to make sure that especially with I saw section 4, there was a severability clause as another lady said. Could that potentially go away when you guys are out of office and somebody else comes in? I just wanted those questions potentially answered to see if when you guys are long and gone, this isn't going
to be another fight that we may or may not have to come to down the road. The last thing that I would like to say is I know, you know, as Rihanna had said, you know, she passed out a lot of flyers. I'm so glad to see so many people back in this house. Um I'm hoping that part of it is because of that or from the
internet or for whatever reason. I'm glad you guys are here. If anybody here, whether it's on the council or anybody here, is not familiar with the impacts that data centers have, especially the hypers scale data centers such as the one in violent, I suggest they come seek
out people like myself, my wife, Jenna, Larry, Gigi, Nikki, or any other member at our organization, which is sustain New Jersey or Sustain South Jersey, whether it's online or in physical, we're always here or we're always at the Vinland meetings. There's still a long way to go with that fight in Vinland and
for South Jersey as a whole. And if this passes and especially if it passes the city planning board, this is a huge win and a huge precedence. Like I truly truly mean that. A huge when I woke up the other morning and saw that this was on the agenda. Like it's our birthday
week and I was like this is a great present for us as long as our other friends that have birthdays this week. Like this is really such a big deal. And like we really mean that from the bottom of our hearts because everything we've been dealing with in Violin has been backdoor and shady and this seems like it is very open and very transparent and
we're really really hoping that obviously a lot of good is going to come with this cuz on paper it seems majestic and yeah that's pretty much all I got to say guys. Congrats on it. >> Thank you. >> Mr. Pal does this give us a little points next time we do something you don't like.
>> Sure. Maybe. >> All right. [laughter] Hi, Cynthia Hamblin. I live in Millville. Um, a lot of things have been said already. I just um I'm against it. I don't want this AI center. I'm sure a lot of people feel this way. It's
environmental disruptions of our air. It's going to ruin things for us. Water pressures. One data center roughly roughly uses 1 million gallons of water in a day. That's enough for 61,000 people. Um, it
could mean higher utility bills for citizens, which 50% higher. People can't afford that. Um, one data center, just a couple facts, uses the power that 400,000 homes would use.
Constant noise. We do not want this. Thank you for supporting this ban and please continue to do this. Thank you. The local costs, the local costs could be shifted to the local homeowners in
the future. Um, it's all things that are no good. People, we don't need more diseases in this world. We're already fighting off a lot of diseases. Please continue the ban. Thank you.
>> Thank you. [applause] Um, hello. I'm Jonas Damopoulos. I'm 17 years old and I'm from here in Milville. Um, this is actually like my first time speaking here. Um, so just bear bear with that. And I and I also saw from
online about the about this ordinance and personally I think it's uh it's great and but I also just want to put up some statistics for uh all for pretty much everyone in this room just to uh just to clarify some stuff. So first I'll admit that um there are some
benefits for the construction of data centers such as new job opportunities. However, there are some negative effects that outweigh a bit that outweigh the benefits that data centers give. First off, data centers use um an immense amount of water with the largest data centers consuming up to 5 million
gallons daily. That is enough water to support a town of up to 50,000 people, which is almost double the amount of Milville's population. Furthermore, the water used by these data centers can't be reused as previously stated which basically means that it is unusable
water that is wa which is an essential resource that's wasted upon tens of thousands of people. The best example of this scenario taking place is in Memphis with the Colossus data center designed for X's chatbot Grock in in this in this
area of southwest Memphis where this data center is. Uh people living within a 2-m radius um experience not only water shortages but whenever any water does go through their sinks or faucets it's black. That is contaminated
water that cannot be used. and and also on the effects of noise pollution. The health effects of noise pollution, it doesn't just cause um effects on people's mental health, but it also causes um um future effects on someone's cardiovascular health, which could lead
to stuff like congestive heart failure, heart attacks, etc. Do we want to inflict this level of self harm on our residents and ourselves? I don't think so. These data centers also use an absurd amount of energy with some data centers using as much energy that can
power a 100,000 homes. This will cause an increase in electric bills as the supply is depleted. Once again, I don't think it's this is beneficial to the people of Milville. Um and and last and the last thing I want to
say is that um obviously all of you are commissioners and we're elected to serve the people. And these next few questions are for pretty much everyone in this room. Does jeopardizing our water supply for our residents benefit the people?
Does ruining our air quality benefit the people? Do seclusive NDAs that hide data center construction from our residents benefit the people? Does additional CO2 emissions that harm the planet benefit the people? If you think about it, the answer to all of these is no. Which is
why we should ban data centers in Milville. and it's up to you as our commissioners to re to serve on what is right for the city and for the um for what our residents want. Thank you. [applause] >> Evening Tim Spir on your mobile. Um I
have a couple questions about the NAB Avenue project and then the RAD. Um, does anybody has anybody gotten an estimate what the cost of this project will be? I heard numbers from $15 million to $8 million. I looked up the
cost of one mile highway that would be built in New Jersey. It's $2 million. If it's $15 million, where's the other 13 million going? That's a question. Also, do we have or are we still considering
reszoning the area of Nab Avenue 49 if the project comes to fruition? So, that because I know that uh a couple corporations, Wawa, I think Royal Farms, it even be a good place for a truck stop like they have on Garden Road to put. So, I don't know if that's still in the
consideration phase. Um because those will be readables for the city if if everything everything pans out. Um you know it's it's a win-win for the city and all this not only Milville, Lawrence Township, British, they're all going to
benefit from NAV Avenue. Um the unfortunately I get this uneasy feeling because because when I was advocating for this the last four years and I'm going back the first year or it seemed
like the goalpost got moved every time you got close and you're committing to this bond and I don't know if you have those those answers that I I would want to have before I committed the city to a $400,000 bond. In other words, is there
willingness I'm sorry, Sandy, you're here. Uh, is there willingness on the county side to do this project with Milville? Because I think again it'd be a shame not to do it. Also, I think somebody had a question about the
the pilot when it starts. I think that CRP pays taxes on the land until a business is built and then the pilot begins. I'm pretty sure that's the the avenue it takes. But those are the questions I have. I appreciate any answers. I have another subject. I'll
come back later on. Thank you. [applause] Hi, my name is Tessa Carlton and I live right on Wheaten Avenue. Um, I wasn't didn't prepare anything. I don't have anything elegant to say other than that I had texted a friend earlier and I said the facts are I would rather
chew off my left arm than show up at this meeting with my three kids cuz my husband has to work late. Um and I will also be there at 6 o'clock. Uh so I commend you. I'm really glad to hear that the you guys are behind the
ordinance. Um, I'm very glad to hear it and I brought the future with me because that's why I'm here, right? I don't always pay attention. I really should pay more attention to what's happening in our community. And I feel like especially when you have little kids,
it's hard to show up. It's hard to pay attention to all of the facts and read the paperwork and check up on things and follow through on things. Um, my little brother, he works in well drilling. um he's since he works now in Pennsylvania, but he went to his meeting um when they
were talking about putting it in and talked about the fact that he had all the facts about the water and what it would do and how much it would drain that area. And um and lots of people here have showed up a little bit more prepared than I did. Um but I want to
say thank you. Um, I want to say that it's worth showing up. You know, even when your kid is talking a little loud, even when you have to quick grab snacks, mostly for dinner, that when you believe in something and you're behind it, show
up. So, thank you to everybody who did show up. And I thought, oh, maybe I'll get there and it'll be standing room only and we won't have to stay. Um, so I wasn't so lucky. Um, but that's why I decided to just let you guys know that, you know, when things are are important,
you know, we have to start showing up. And so I really appreciate that you guys are showing up for us. Um, because I know that there's some delusions, I think, about the idea that it's going to bring jobs and it's going to bring money. And if that was really the case,
I feel like those facts would be really laid out on the table. It'd be really clear. This is what's good. This is how we're going to help you. This is all the things. It wouldn't be like with Vineland where everything's kind of hidden and suddenly they're like, "Oh, sorry." So, I really appreciate that you
guys are taking a step because if it was if they were it was transparent and it was great, then why would we need to hide it? So, I really appreciate that you guys are doing what you're doing. So, thank you and I hope that it goes through.
>> Thank you very much. [applause] Sorry. Hi, I'm Larry from Vineland and I want to do actually appreciate y'all for passing this. I know I talked to every single one of you when you were sworn in about data centers and most of you seemed against it which was awesome. Thank you. Um I just want to talk about them because people are saying there's
positive effects. I just don't understand like when you the simplest thing when you first learn in math is if a negative number is bigger than a positive number, it's a negative. Okay, cool. We understand that. Um, Violin's data center was a public golf
course without the community ever having a say it flipped into a data center. I just need to like and the only environmental impact we have is from the guy developing it. We don't there's no the state is not putting regulations in. I went down to speak at Trenton. They're finally just passed the mandatory water use study when these things are per I
think it's like 20 million gallons a year or something which are supposed to use and now we have the water use study. Um, their air quality permits still pending and they're still building. They're still going along. Third site plan change. They're still building the stuff for the site plan. I mean, like these things are pretty awful. Somebody
mentioned uh revenue or money coming back into the city. Yeah. No, they get pilot programs and the jobs go elsewhere. Um, yeah. Uh, another thing that's like really big that I wish this is why I want the state to come down or I don't know if what the county can do. I'm still learning county what the county can do. Um, but the Cranzy
Kirkwood aquifer is where we get our drinking water. And the guy in Vinland kind of wants to dump the used water back into it. So that's 8 to nine counties drinking water getting contaminated. Uh, we're already in a drought. We don't have the water for this type of stuff. Our grid's already stressed out. Vinland has their own grid, but they go into
Atlantic City Electric for their electricity. They don't pay more. They just pay what they take. Uh, yeah. Milville, uh, our data center is probably affecting you more than it's affecting me as a Vinland resident. Uh the trade-offs again, the temporary construction jobs, tax abatements, lack
of local jobs, contamination, pollution, noise pollution. I don't know if you saw the when violent went viral and the Fox News in action came down cuz people's houses were like kind of vibrating a mile away from all the noise. Um yeah, I'm not going to mention the strange ID thing he did. Uh it puts the public health in danger. I don't know. Like
again, Memphis, it's the biggest example. You want to go look what Elon does Elon Musk did over there. uh heart issues, asthma, COPD, a bunch of lung, heart problems are from this. Again, AI is pretty just horrible as a thing. I'm talking about AI data centers. This is not this AI data centers don't go cloud
for this. That's not it makes a stupid picture everybody posts on the internet or posters where they cut out artists. Yeah. Uh yeah. The simplest way to explain it is like DuPont 2.0 environmentally, but economically we're creating a jail. We all know how Bridton feels about having the jail in their
downtown right now. So, uh yeah. Um, we don't have much representation and yeah, I'm happy with banning them. If they want to come down 10 years from the road and make better technology, we're not going to let try and kill us. Cool. But for now, ban them. Thank you. [applause] >> Hi, my name is Raone Mora Jr. U.
Firstly, I just want to commend you guys for showing leadership in your community in a time where politicians like Tesa and Van Drew are only looking out for themselves and private interests. Um, we've learned from Violin that there's no guarantee that these type of businesses are going to come and bring
the jobs that they say they're going to bring. They'll outsource them. They'll find people to bring in to to fulfill those jobs. They're not going to invest in the education of your population, your town in order to fill those roles. Uh, we know enough about data centers right now to know that this is just a
bad idea as it's designed. Uh, no one no one building should use more power than the entire city uses. No one building should use more water than the entire city uses that it's being hosted in. Violent is a case study on how to sew
distrust amongst the people that you represent. Whether we like it or not, we can't live without our environment. So protecting it is a must. I may not be from Milville, but on this issue, I'm excited to see my neighbors taking a
lead in protecting the soul and spirit of South Jersey, putting the people above corporate explor exploitation and above foreign interest and putting them first when it comes to the benefit of the community. Thank you.
[applause] >> All right, last call. All right, seeing no one at the podium, I will close the public uh comment portion for agenda items only. Madame clerk, do we have any presentations? >> There are none, mayor. >> Madam clerk, uh can we [clears throat]
pay the bills? >> Yes. We just need a motion to approve the bill list. >> Like to make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinell, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon,
>> yes. Any petitions or letters? Madame clerk? >> Yes. Just a motion to receive and file the annual report of taxes not collectible. >> Like to make a motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Dixon. >> Yes. All right. Let's start with reports of commissioners. Um, let's start with Commissioner Taylor. >> I have two grandsons. a wife,
two children. >> From the time I started running for this election, people would ask me about data centers. My answer was no. Absolutely no. It's still absolutely no. It'll be absolutely no. I am not going to risk
their lives, the lives of 28,000 people that I represent. I am not going to risk the environment that I love to fish in and hunt in, sport in. I'm not going to risk the water I drink,
the sky I see. I'm not going to risk it for the almighty buck dollar. I'm not doing it. I don't care what it cost us, what money we will lose. I don't care. I'm not doing it.
Ohio, Tennessee, [applause] Texas, Louisiana, uh, Indiana, Colorado, Pennsylvania. Violence is not the only one. Everywhere they that there's been a data center, people have been in an uproar against
it. They've snuck them in. They've put them in there. They're not going to put him here. They're not going to put him in my town with a vote from me. It's not going to happen. >> [applause] >> On a better note,
there are cameras coming to the city of Mobile. There are public safety relies on them a lot. It's something that we've needed for a long time and it's something that I have wanted for a long time. I was a
dispatcher for 25 years and I don't know how many times we could have relied on a simple picture or still from a camera to solve the heinous of crimes. I understand AI technology runs those
cameras. I understand that completely. Facial recognition, adverse uh activity recognition. We met with a camera company just last week. We did a walk, we had a little meeting with them. We did a walk
through, myself, uh, Commissioner Cot, and uh, our uh, Mr. Bitterman, the U city municipal uh, administrator. The company was very knowledgeable. We walked from High Street from Maine to
Broad, looked at Buck Street, talked about where the cameras are going to go, where we could, where the infrastructure is. Cameras are coming. crime will drop >> and that's one of the things we're going to have but we're not going to have a d
NI data center. Another good note that myself and and commissioner cot have been working on a program since we started running for this election. We wanted to
bring back the relationship that the city of Milville had with our school systems, with the votech, with the senior high for an advancement of students to bring them into the workforce for the
city. It's a program that we've really really put thought into. We've started meeting with the schools. We met last week with um Miss Mui from the senior high. I called the senior high. It's the high school in Elbert. It's always be the senior high. Go
Bulls, right? Um we toured the media room. We toured the auto shop and the enthusiasm from the kids that we met was unmatched. They lined up. They came up to us. They
wanted to know everything. I think a kid left early just so he could go see the 15th Street uh garage maintenance, fleet maintenance. Um it's going to be a program that we are going to really try
to elaborate and get the kids involved. It's a win for us. It's a win for them. With that, I'll pass on to the other commissioners because um I don't want to take all of the thunder for that because it's also Commissioner K's idea as well.
But um that's all I have. Commissioner, [clears throat] >> thank you, Commissioner Taylor. Uh Commissioner Ranelo. >> Yes. Um have a lengthy report. Um somebody questioned what uh people know about AI and data centers, and I don't think anybody really knows here, but I'm
contractor with uh AI and ethics policy for the last three to four years. So I just wanted to add that out there. Um parks and recreation report. On Saturday, March 8th, we held our Eggttastic Easter celebration. While it
was very cold, we were grateful that it stayed dry this time, especially after a few years of rainy events. The celebration was very well attended. It was wonderful to see so many families enjoying the day out there. I attended with my family and Vice Mayor K was out there with his as well. Uh we both got
excited to see the Easter Bunny and we couldn't resist taking a photo with him. So, the day was filled with fun activities for the kids and a great variety of vendors were out there. It's always a joy to watch the children running around with their bags and baskets collecting Easter eggs. Uh
filled with amazing prizes. We're especially grateful to the members of our community who donated the plastic eggs and filled them with the goodies. They dropped off the goodies to be filled. Uh your generosity really made the day special. We have a lot of great things happening in our parks.
First, we now have a brand new little library at the at Corson Park that just went in a few days ago. Our previous one was damaged, but this replacement is really beautiful. Uh, special thank you to Brooke Tomlin for the amazing paint job, and to the team who installed it.
Everyone is encouraged to stop by, take a book, leave a book, and enjoy some reading time in the park. You'll also notice that a new swing set has been installed at Corson Park, and I have been waiting for the kids to be able to enjoy this. The parks department recently received a large, actually it
was today, uh, a large delivery of mulch and they're going to be working hard for the rest of the week, have everything ready. Our goal is to have that swing set open by the weekend. You may have noticed the work at the entrance of Buck Park, even with all the
bridge construction nearby. Phase two of our paver project started here because the entrance was in very poor condition. That's why we started it there. The work is now complete on the PA project and the front entrance to the park is now open. The pavers are level. The concrete
sidewalk, which was frankly a hot mess, now provides a smooth, handicap accessible pathway. I've also emphasized that environmental design is important to help deter crime. So, when you drive over that bridge right now, I encourage everybody to take
a look at the park and you'll notice that visibility is greatly improved. Right now, this is just the beginning because new landscaping will happen in the coming weeks at Buck Park. New trash cans have already been added. Many other improvements will take place in the near future. And we'll also be sharing photos
along the way so you can see the transformation and compare the before and after. A quick update on our UEZ clean team. Our clean team is a dedicated team of two who actively remove trash and improve cleanliness in the UE district. This is a very new initiative for us. It's brand new. It's
only two weeks old. And so far, the clean team has tackled um the two industrial parks, Route 47 northbound uh from Orange Street to Bluebird Lane, and today they started Route 47 South. I just want to clarify uh so there's no
confusion. This team isn't able to clean up every part of our city. I wish it was. Uh but this initiative is funded through UEZ, which has very specific boundaries uh approved in a plan from the state. So the clean team can only clean the UEZ zone. Where is the urban
enterprise zone? You could view the official map on our website to see the areas covered. You go to the website, you click departments, scroll down, and you'll see urban enterprise zone. On that page, you'll see a five-year plan which includes the UEZ map.
I also want to share some really positive news uh that's had me feeling really optimistic. Uh even before taking office, Vice Mayor Cot and I committed to making every effort to support unhoused individuals and help lift them towards a more stable situation while
also maintaining and improving our city's public spaces. His experience in community policing and connections with service providers along with our officers support and identifying those in need have been very invaluable.
On Thursday morning, about a dozen of us conducted outreach to individuals experiencing homelessness. Professionals were on site to offer services and several individuals we met have accepted help and are now taking
steps towards a fresh start. We plan to continue working with our partners in the city throughout the county uh and meet people where they're at to help them improve their lives. That's the goal.
Our upcoming events, we have the following. Youth sports opening days. Girls softball opening day is Sunday, April 12th at 3 p.m. Babe Ruth opening day is Monday, April 13th at 5:30 p.m. American Little League opening day,
Saturday, April 18th at 9:00 a.m. We also have Arbor Day on April 24th. We're planting a tree around the corner here, 12:00 p.m. at Patriot Park on 49 and Riverside Drive. If anybody wants to come plant a tree, come come join us. Uh get ready for the citywide community
yard sale on Saturday, April 25th. Uh everyone is invited to participate. This is something new that we're doing. We're excited about it. Uh just register your address to be listed as a participating home. There's no cost, no permit required. Uh your permit essentially is
joining that list. So it's easy to join the fun. If you want to add your home to the list or you have any questions about our parks, public property or any of our events, please call Samantha Cruz 8568257000 extension 7304. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Reinelloo. Commissioner Kasaboon. >> Okay, before I begin with my reports, I I've seen many things in my lifetime. As you notice that I am older, I have gray hair. I have seen companies
who tell us coal mines were safe, fracking was safe, smoking was okay, dumping chemicals into the ground was okay. Uh, and you can see where Wheatens has gotten us. Um, our Milville die company.
We've learned from history. We need to learn from AI before I will put one here because until then, my answer is no. All right, with that said, uh, streets and roads, [applause] these guys are busy. Um, I'm just going
to jump to the thing. Um, residents, you can still put your brush out out front until the end of April. However, don't forget to separate the loose leaves from the brush because they can't take them. That's on the D tells us we can't do
that. All right. Uh the other thing is if you do put your brush out no longer than 6 foot in length, it will not be picked up. The rule is always has been no longer than six feet in length and 12 inches in diameter. Residents can also
take their brush to the center, the compost center on Cedar Street Thursdays, Tuesdays, and Saturdays. Loose leaves for April collection will begin this week and we will make one pass through the [snorts] city for collection. If you have any concerns about anything else, give us a call at
8257000 extension 7388. Water Department, I did get an update. The new meters that were installed from March the 17th to March the 31st has been 275.
So, if you do get this in the mail, please make your appointment. It's going to benefit you. Then on another positive note, just to let you guys know that we are starting our our yearly hydrant maintenance this month and probably run through October. So if you experience a
little bit of low pressure at at times, it's only temporary and that's normal recycling. I will give credit to Bacon School. They have signed up for adopt a road program and they did their first cleanup on March the 28th. They had seven
volunteers and collected about 700 pounds of litter. On another note, from the storm, we took up 333 tons of brush collected from the snowstorm and we're still cleaning it up. If you're
interested in doing adopt a road or clean up your street community, please give us a call. We would love to get everybody together and working together like we used to with a community cleaning up. We can do a street, you can do a block, you can do
a whole neighborhood. And just give us a call. Give Chris Finch a call at 8257000 extension 712. And that's enough for right now. >> Thank you, Commissioner. [applause] >> Vice Mayor Cot, what do you have for us?
>> All right. Uh, we've been a little bit busy last couple weeks. Um, I do want to thank everybody for coming here and I'm glad you guys are going to start coming every other week, right? This is a first and third Tuesday of every month. Uh we hope to see you here and we've got pictures of all of you guys to make sure
you return. Um the egg hunt. Oh, that was cold. Uh but that was fun. They put out a thousand eggs. >> Thousand eggs in uh three different fields. Um the kids didn't seem cold, but me and uh Commissioner Reinella were
a little chilly. >> Uh but it was definitely a good time and a great event. um also attended the uh the sunrise service on Sunday. Um that was well attended and uh just to let you know it was supposed to rain all day and the sun
came out beautiful like it was meant to be. So I appreciate attending there. The school visit, we've been talking about that for a long time. Um we want to try to bring back the kids that are going to Milville, live in Millville to stay and
work for us in Millville. So, we have reached out to them. Uh, they've been extremely helpful and excited and the programs that they have at the high school are insane. And where were they when we went to school? >> Um, they were making 3D stuff. They were
doing all kinds of stuff in there. The mechanic shop, that kid that uh officer Commissioner Taylor was talking about, like he was giddy thinking he has an opportunity to work for the city of Milville. Um, and I think he did sneak out right after we
left. Um, but there's so much talent in this city that we're trying to get them and and have them work here. Um, we are changing a lot of things here. Um, we're improving a lot of things here and we're excited to bring in um some young uh
workers. Um, the walk on Thursday was incredible. We had and and I Sure. Hope I don't miss anybody, but um it starts with Sarah Williams from the Come County uh human services coordinator. Uh she helped organized all this and we had I'm
counting I think eight different organizations. >> When we say we want to help the unhoused and people struggling with addiction and um mental illness, we want to do it in a
humane way. Right? They are still people of our town. uh we still love them and we still respect them. And to watch everybody come together, we had Mission Teens out there, we had collaborative partners of South Jersey out there, we had uh the
homeless shelter out there, the guidance center, Capital Recovery, and our wonderful neighbor, the Hope Center, who was vital to uh recognizing everybody that we came upon and their needs. And
it was a true blessing that the people we encountered and saw the help that was coming. Now, we do know this isn't just a one-time fix. We are going to continue this as long as we can. Uh but while we're also helping them, we're also
cleaning up the city. Um we are bringing them making sure that they have everything they need um to get all the help they can. And it doesn't stop there. We have created such great partners with these uh organizations that they're following up the next day.
They're trying to get them their meds for those who can't get it. They're trying to get them help that they didn't have access to. Um it's something that we are trying to build this group of in uh organizations that can truly truly
try to help um a lot of the uh the residents of our city that's struggling. Um, I'm very proud of that and I'm very proud to walk with you, Commissioner Reinella, with all that. Um, there's just I I know I guess there's not a lot
of people want to do business here. Um, but I don't know because we keep having people keep coming up to us uh starting new businesses. So, um, don't always [clears throat] listen to what you hear. There are people that want to do business here and they're excited. They're some of them were trying to calm
down a little bit. We won't tell you about them, but they're they're excited about Milville and downtown and things like that and um good things are coming. Good things and and we appreciate it. So, I think that's all I have for now. Mayor, >> thank you, Commissioner Cot. [applause]
First, I would like to personally thank our planning board attorney, Lou Gardy, and our development attorney, Connor Kimmel, for working personally with me on the uh data center prohibition ordinance. Um, worked hand inand with those two attorneys to push this
forward. Lugardi is a tremendous attorney. I I've never seen an attorney quite like this. Sorry, uh, Mr. Solicitor, but I I, uh, I send her an email and I think an email [snorts] comes back three minutes later. So, you have some uh some big shoes to fill there. >> Get a smaller uh hourglass so it has
[laughter] less time. >> No, you're you're doing an awesome job. Um but um Lou Gardy uh was tremendous in working on this ordinance. Uh very responsive and uh I think she did tremendous job uh crafting this. Connor Kimmel, our development attorney, helped
uh look it over with her. So, we have a professional staff. I saw somebody one time, why do we have so many attorneys? I think the city Mr. Uh K, how many attorneys do you think the city has in total? >> Way too many. >> Take a guess. 20 attorneys. >> And and I and people say, "Why does the city have so many attorneys?" Well, you
think about doctors. If you go to the doctor there, how many doctors do some of you people go to? You have your >> regular doctor and then you have your eye doctor and then you have your heart doctor and then you have same thing with the city attorneys. There's that. They all have specialties and the law is a
very complicated thing as M our solicitor knows and he's like the family, you know, the family practitioner over there. He handles a lot of things, but when things get very detailed, you turn to one of your specialty attorneys and that's why the city has so many attorneys. So, we thank
our specialty attorneys. They do a great job for the city and they are looking out for you. uh when we hire an attorney uh Connor Kimmel and Lugardi, they are not uh somebody who is uh you know sticking up for anybody but the citizens of the of the city. That's what they're
there for. They look out for you and for uh for you know what we need them to do. So they're on our side. Um so thanks to those guys. Um as far as uh the fifth floor um construction and code enforcement, uh code enforcement moves
along well. We have 212 code violations in the first quarter. That is up from the uh first quarter last year. Uh construction permit fees uh went up to 138,000. That's about a 13% increase from last year. Uh we are really holding
uh not developers, but uh you know, people coming to do construction um more accountable than we've done in the past. We haven't done a good job in the past with holding them accountable. We're doing a much better job and people are actually getting the permits they're supposed to be getting, which hasn't happened very well in the past. So, we're doing a better job at that. Um,
we're moving closer and closer uh to demolishing uh blighted properties in the city. As a matter of fact, after this meeting, M and Mr. D. Michelle will be looking at holding uh you know, the process for holding hearings on about five different properties. So, these buildings that you see burnout in the
city that people why won't they do something with that building? they're going to start. It's a detailed process. The money comes from CBDG funds. It's not an easy process. So, um there's a lot of things you have to do. D everybody thinks it's very simple to come and do do certain things, but there's so many things you have to do to
make things like that happen. Um his you have to check with the historical society to make sure the building's not historical. You have to check with the D to make sure there's not bad things that could happen when you start tearing it down. So, there's a lot of things that have to happen that people don't realize that I didn't realize when I first came in, but um you know, but these there's a
lot of things that happen and we're moving closer and closer to demolishing buildings. Um let's see. So, happy with code enforcement. Engineering just want I don't really do this all the time, but every so often I'm going to give you an idea of what our engineering department is doing. Um they are still continuing
to work on the third secondary class uh clarifier over at the sewer department that is moving along with our engineering department and uh they should be done that project. They're about a third of the way through the project but we're hoping that's going to be done by the end of the year. Um we have a solids dewatering upgrade. The
design is done and we're just waiting on permits [clears throat] to get that project started. Uh Ireland Avenue, they're uh upgrading a force main. The project's almost 95% complete. And what that will do, that will allow us to get more water over to our industrial park, which we're going to need because um the
industrial park needs more water. There's not much infrastructure over there. So, we're moving more infrastructure over there. Um the water utility, they're going to be painting some of the water utility. This is things that the uh the engineering department gets very involved in. Pleasant Avenue is going to be getting
uh uh the water um the lead and galvanized uh water manes are going to be uh being replaced and it's designed and it's advertised to go out to bid. So the engineering is done with that. Gisinger Avenue water improvements, it's under
design right now. So they're going to be improve improving the water uh delivery over there as well as well as the lead and galvanized services there. Road improvements. Everybody wants to know what's happening with road improvements. Now, uh, Pleasant Drive road improvements are going to start once the
water improvements are complete. So, I know the people that live on Pleasant Drive are excited to hear that. Um, South 14th Street will be being paved. The contractor supposed to start this month. Um, Geisinger Avenue Road improvements, it's under design. Um, so
they're designing that right now. The Buck Street improvements are still under design right now. Uh so once that's done, that's going to be moving toward getting done. And Laurel Lake Road Improvements, um we're waiting for um something from the Laurel Lake uh housing uh the uh the HOA to let us know
what order that they want those uh roads to be paved in, possibly have those roads done by the end of 2026. So that's kind of what's going on with engineering. And I think that's all I have. All right. Um, where we go? Uh, Madame
Clerk, can we move on to regular business? >> Ordinance for second reading. Ordinance for second reading. Item number one, an ordinance amending the municipal code of the city of Milville, chapter 39, motor vehicle and traffic regulations, remove handicap parking, 502 Dock Street. And
there is a public hearing tonight as well. >> Can we get a motion? >> Public hear. >> Oh, I'm sorry. If anybody would like to come to the podium and talk or have anything to say about that, please
approach the podium. Seeing no one at the podium, let's continue. >> I'd like to make a motion. I'll second that. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon,
>> yes. Ordinance for second reading. Item number two, an ordinance amending the municipal code of the city of Milville, chapter 39, motor vehicle and traffic regulations, add handicap parking at 919 North Street. >> If anybody would like to comment on this, please approach the podium.
>> Seeing no one at the podium, can we get a motion? >> Like to make a motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kaspoon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Ordinance for second reading item
number three. An ordinance amending the municipal code of the city of Milville, chapter 39, motor vehicle and traffic regulations add handicap parking at 219 West McNeil Street. >> If anybody would like to speak about this, please approach the podium. Seeing no one at the podium
>> like to make a motion. I'll second it. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kaspoon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Ordinance for second reading item number four, an ordinance approving and authorizing an application to the
Cumberland County Roadway Department for First United Methodist Church of Milville to hold a coin drop on May 23rd, 2026 at the intersections of Buck Shoot Road and Cedarville Road. >> If anybody would like to comment on this, please approach the podium. Seeing no one at the podium,
>> I'd like to make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasabun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Vanelloo, >> yes. Mayor Dixon. >> Yes. >> Ordinance for second reading item number five, an ordinance approving and authorizing an application to the
Cumberland County Roadway Department for the Dividing Creek Fire and Rescue to hold a coin drop on August 29th, 2026 at the intersections of Buck Shoot Road and Cedarville Road. >> If you would like to make a comment, please approach the podium. Seeing no one,
>> like to make a motion. >> I second it. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot. >> Yes. Yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo. >> Yes. >> Mayor Dixon. >> Yes. >> Ordinances for the first reading. Ordinance for first reading item number one. An ordinance amending the salary
ordinance. >> Like to make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Ranelloo. >> Yes. >> Mayor Dixon. >> Yes. >> Ordinance for first reading item number two, an ordinance amending chapter 30,
land use and development regulations. like to make a motion. >> Like to second. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasabun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. That's the one to clap for.
[applause] >> All right, Madam Clerk. Resolutions, please. >> Resolution item number one, resolution authorizing amendment number one to professional services contract Clark, Canton, and Heights. >> Like to make a motion. I second it. >> Yes. If this is for uh affordable
housing to get us up to our plan that we uh and for us to move on to the fourth round, >> that's correct. >> Mhm. >> Uh roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes.
>> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number item number two, resolution authorizing tax and utility adjustments. >> Like to make a motion. >> Second the motion. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number three, resolution authorizing an amendment to the four seasons agreement street lighting provision. >> Like to make a motion. Second it. So, this is uh it's already an agreement we
have in place. So, we're just uh continuing and and correcting, I guess, and adding the street lights that are part of the contract. >> Correct. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasabun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon,
>> yes. >> Resolution item number four, resolution awarding a non-fair and open contract to Trojan Technologies. >> Yeah. Uh we had S here on Thursday to explain this agenda item during 30 Thursday's work session. Uh the U the UV disinfection equipment is approaching 10
years old. It's going to need full replacement. Uh replacement parts are manufacturer specific cost is coming from the sewer utility budget and the warranty starts only when the new module is installed. >> Make a motion.
>> Second. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Caspoon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reella, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number five, resolution appointing the municipal safety coordinator. >> Like to make a motion. Second. Yes. that
this is not a paid position. This is a position that we have to have through the JIF. Um it's one of our own employees that are going around and just making sure everything in the the city is safe for the the employees, making sure we're adhering to all the safety regulations. >> Roll call, please.
>> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reell, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Resolution item number six, resolution of the commissioners of the city of Milville authorizing a public fireworks display. >> Uh, it's described at the work session.
This is for our 4th of July, America's 250th birthday. I'd like to make a motion. >> Second motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot. >> Happy 250th. Yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Minnello, >> yes.
>> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Resolution item number seven, resolution authorizing the city of Milville to apply for recycling tonnage grants. >> All right. This was also discussed at the meeting work session and this is simply part of an annual tonnage report that is certifies that the city has
complied with the requirements of the state law mandating the tonnage report and that we intend to comply with them again in 2026. Make a motion. >> Second motion. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cott. >> Yes. Yes. >> Commissioner Kasabun.
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo. >> Yes. >> Mayor Dixon. >> Yes. >> Resolution item number eight, resolution of the city of Milville in the county of Cumberland, New Jersey, authorizing the execution of a first amendment to the redevelopment agreement and purchase and sale agreement with CRP Development
Urban Renewal LLC for property identified as a portion of block 136, lot one. >> This is a adjustment of dates on the redevelopment agreement. Basically, we had a pretty aggressive um uh date schedule when it came to this uh this
property. It just basically adjust dates. I think the best way I can do an analogy for this is everybody here's probably purchased a house. And when you're closing date gets pushed because of title or because of, you know, this or that or sewer engineering, everybody's gone through that when they
close on a house. Imagine you're, you know, trying to build something that has engineering, D waivers, all kinds of things like that. things get pushed back and we were pretty aggressive with our original time timeline because we want things to get, you know, built in Millville quickly. Um, so these are just
small adjustments to the uh uh to the timeline. Um, we are closing on this property uh April 15th. We're very excited that we're closing on this land, April 15th. And uh if you don't readjust the timelines, you can't close. So
without readjusting the timelines for like say when uh you know titles and things like that are supposed to be done, you you can't close with a an agreement that's you know not matching what they think is going to happen. So uh we're very happy that this is going to be closing on the 15th and uh you
know they've been a great uh developer. They are a model developer and uh you know if everybody develops like uh CRP does um we'll be we'll be you know cooking. And if you want to know any more, they did uh we did a presentation at a work session that gives a lot more
detail. Um so you can get some information about that. >> Yeah, take a look at the work session on that one. And uh there's our attorney Connor Kimmel gave a uh probably half an hour, >> maybe a half an hour on the details of this project and and some questions. So
take a look at that and there's a lot of questions answered there. Uh he's our expert on it and he did a great job at uh answering a lot of questions. Uh, roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> did we make a motion?
>> I'd like to make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasabun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number nine, resolution of the city of Milville, County of Cumberland, New Jersey, authorizing the
issuance of nonreourse redevelopment area bonds in an aggregate principal amount of $400,000. And this is a bond that goes along with we'll get that $400,000 when we close on [clears throat] the 15th. If you want more information, there's a little handout that I had prepared along with
Connor Kimmel, our development attorney over on the uh if there's not enough if you'd like a handout and there's not enough over there. See me after or I can email it to you and it gives a an update or an explanation of the uh the bond in detail so you can see exactly how the
bond works. Um, can I get a motion? >> I'll make a motion. Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kaspoon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number 10, resolution
authorizing the city of Milville to enter into the North Jersey Wastewater Cooperative Pricing System. >> Motion. >> This is just uh it doesn't cost us anything. It's just we're joining, you know, multiple agencies to get lower prices and like any other um profit
pricing system. >> Make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Resolution item number 11,
resolution of the city of Melville in the county of Cumberland, New Jersey, referring the ordinance amending city code chapter 30, land use and development regulations to the planning board. >> And this is sending that ordinance over to the planning board for any recommendations they have. Um they have
35 days to do it and uh they'll send it back to us and that's when you'll get our second reading. So come back and enjoy the second reading with us. >> Make a motion. >> Second the motion. Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot,
>> yes. >> Commissioner Cospoon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Vanilla, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number 12, resolution authorizing filing an application with the US Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Assistance for funding under the FY2025 Local Justice Assistance Grant
Program and authorizing a shared services agreement between the city of Vinland, City of Milville, City of Bridton, and County of Cumberland for such funding. So, yeah, this is um a countywide uh basically a law enforcement grant that uh different police departments put in
what they're planning on using for and they get awarded uh based on the plans that they put in. This is a pretty much a yearly thing that we've been doing for a while. [snorts] >> I'd like to make a motion. Second motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Ranelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. Resolution item number 13. Resolution authorizing the tax collector to issue duplicate certificate of sales as per NJSA 54 521.1. >> Like to make a motion.
>> Second the motion. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cosboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number 14, resolution to award a contract for the purchase of polymer.
We had already put this out to bid and this resolution awards the contract. Uh, make a mo Oh, that's Carol. You want to make a motion? >> I make a motion. >> I'll second it. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Hosoon, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Minnello, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. >> Resolution item number 15, resolution authorizing an amendment for the purchase of a UAZ funded truck. >> So, this was covered during our work session. Samantha Cruz came to explain
uh the additional $2,500. Uh we had already approved this in February. This is a different truck with a different bed on it. Uh originally uh Gentalini Ford uh quoted us at $11,000 extra and that seemed to uh too costly for us and
they came back for the better truck at $2,500. So that's what this is. >> Like to make a motion. >> I'll second that. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor. >> Yes. Vice Mayor Cot. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Casabun, >> yes. >> Commissioner Vanelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon,
>> yes. Uh, new business, Madam Clerk. >> New business item number one. Motion to approve special event on public lands Teen Arts Festival, April 22nd, 2026, 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Various venues on High Street. >> Make a motion. >> Second the motion. >> Yes. So, this is a highly attended teen
arts festival on High Street. If you are driving down High Street, use a little precaution because there's hundreds of teenagers going to probably six or seven different venues there and uh it's a very exciting for them and and a good day. So, >> absolutely.
>> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kasaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reinelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes. New business item number two, motion to approve special event on public lands, National Day of Prayer,
May 7th, 2026, 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. Buck Street Park. >> Make a motion. >> Second it. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Conaboon, >> yes. >> Commissioner Vanelloo, >> yes. >> Mayor Dixon, >> yes.
>> We have now reached the public comment portion of the meeting. If you have any comments, please go to the podium, state your name and address and your concerns. Limit your comments to approximately 5 minutes.
>> We really need to get that fixed. [clears throat] >> I can begin. Hi, uh, my name is Raone Mora again from Yeah. [snorts] Hi. Uh, my name is Raone Morrow Jr. again from Violin. Um, I just I just had some concerns because again I I do
business in Milvo. I go through Milvo. Um, this actually has to um is to Commissioner Taylor. Um, I understand you you're excited and eager to bring cameras to Milvo. I I kind of think it's a great idea, but I also have some
concerns about it. Um, will you pledge to ensure that there's some type of safeguards to prevent potential abuse by organizations like ICE of these cameras leading to targeting of innocent people? Um, pledging maybe a closed system perhaps where only local law enforcement
might have access to them. A lot of these flock cameras are owned by Palanteer. Palanteer works with ICE. Um, uh, and Microsoft. I I think I think of like Marimar Martinez who was targeted by ICE using all different types of surveillance
systems and then shot five times. Um the the next question I would have is would you pledge to real accountability and justice being delivered to those who might be accidentally swept up and being misidentified by these systems beyond something like an oops my bad. Um, I
think of a case involving a Tennessee grandmother where she was misidentified and sent um in a bank fraud case and sent to North Dakota where she spent two months in jail for being misided. Um, is that something that you could
potentially uh pledge today that you would seek to implement with these cameras? >> So, we are in the infancy stage of this, a little bit above the infancy stage. We don't even really know what brand or kind of camera we're gonna use. Okay.
>> But it's primarily going to be used by our police department. >> And is that going to be kind of like in writing or is that just like you're saying that? >> It's our police department. >> It's going to be a policy. >> There'll be there'll be policies written for them. Yes. Yes. >> I appreciate it. And again, I I like the
idea. I just have some real concerns about it uh being abused. But thank you. >> Thank you, M. Good afternoon everyone. The Milville Historical Society has two events coming up this April. One will take you inside one of the most storied buildings of in this city and one that will take you
inside one of the most storied grounds. Both are free and open to the public. Also, I skipped over this. I'm Tanner. I live on uh Leau Avenue and I'm on the board of trustees of the Milville Historical Society. The annual meeting takes place on Saturday, April 11th from 1:00 to 4:00
in the after uh in the afternoon at the historic 1814 Wood Mansion House, 821 Columbia Avenue. This afternoon begins with a brief business session followed by two presentations exploring very different corners of local history. The first presentation is called Through the Eyes of History: Reflections of 19th
Century Milville. This one draws directly from the journals and letters of the Richard D. Wood family, um named after, uh Wood School here in Milville. uh the people who lived and worked in that were uh in that very mansion. Uh through their words, attendees will get
a window into 19th century Milville that no textbook can offer. We're talking about the iron foundry, the cotton mill, company housing, company stores, the railroad, the Union Lake Dam, the industrial backbone of the city told in the voices of those who built it. The second presentation is called Toxins in
Your Kitchen Collections by Katherine Saxton Granada, uh Hearth Cook and Program Specialist at South Jersey Curations LLC. This session is uh is of particular interest to anyone who owns or collects vintage kitchen wear. If you collect your own vintage kitchen wear,
copper pots, Peter mugs, uh old redear or yellowware bowls, you'll want to hear this. Kathy will showcase rather or real examples of copper, brass, pettor, red wear, stone wear, and yellow wear that have been tested for lead. Uh she'll discuss how corrosion and metal composition can affect whether these
treasured pieces are actually safe to cook with or eat off of. Um the session takes place in the historic kitchen of the wood mansion house itself, an appropriate setting for the subject matter. Attendees are welcome to bring questions about their own vintage kitchen pieces. The annual meeting is free and open to the public. Light snacks and drinks will be served.
Parking is available behind the mansion, accessible from Church Street. That's Saturday, April 11th, 1 to 4:00 p.m. at the Wood Mansion House, 821 Columbia Avenue 2 weeks later on sat Saturday, April 25th, uh the same day as the um as the uh citywide yard sale. So, if you
have time, you can stop by. Um the Milville Historical Society will host a guided walking tour of Mount Pleasant Cemetery, mausoleiums, mayors, and memorials. Some of these mayors up here uh we're going to be visiting their graves. Uh this year marks the 160th anniversary of the opening of the
cemetery, the incorporation of Milville as a city, and the first mayoral election of James M. Wells. Uh the the tour visits notable mausoleiums and underground mausoleiums, as well as the final resting place of many Milville's mayors and other distinguished citizens. As one of the tour guides, I will be
portraying James Wells, Milville's first official mayor and the first superintendent of Mount Pleasant Cemetery in period costume. Uh, this tour runs from 2:00 to 3:30 p.m. at Mount Pleasant Cemetery, 601 West Main Street. After entering through the main arch entrance, visitors should proceed to the top of the hill where a small
parking lot is on the left. Comfortable walking shoes are recommended following the tour are uh all are welcome to at the Wood Mansion again 821 Columbia Avenue for refreshments, conversation, and a pictorial history of Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Mansion tours will be available upon request. The event is
free and open to everyone with don uh donations appreciated. two events, two Saturdays in April. The annual meeting on 11th inside the Wood Mountain, the Wood Mansion House, the cemetery tour on the 25th out in the open air of Mount Pleas Cemetery. Both
are free, both are open to everyone. Um, and both are rooted in the same idea uh that Milville has a history worth knowing, worth celebrating, and worth sharing. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. [applause] >> All right. I also want to bring up the concern about the flock. Almost dropped
the microphone. I just wanted to adjust it. Yeah, the flock cameras. I wanted to bring up that case, but he kind of beat me to it. It's pretty neat to make it to the end of city council meeting that usually happen. Um, yeah. So, the AI data center, we have a planning board meeting on May 28th. I would appreciate if our
neighbors came out because again, it's going to affect you more. It's going to affect us and I think it's very important. I don't know what the rules are for other representatives of cities coming out either, but I would even just sit in a chair. You have to be technical. You have to go by law. It's kind of like a court case. you cross-examine. You cannot just go off of motion. You have to bring up legitimate
reasons why it's bad. And the LG tank is a major concern considering other places. I know we were kind of lied to and liquid nitro whatever liquid natural gas is better for us than coal, but it's really not. And they can explode and there's all these problems with it. And again, it's going to affect Milville
more. It's going to affect violence. So May 28th planning board meeting. I would just love to have butts and seats. You don't need to talk. So thank you. >> [applause] >> Okay. Uh, Tamara Davis, just a couple comments. Um, I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not against
development. I'm not against the CRP project. I know it's been brewing for a long, long, long time, but someone previously said about being stewarded stewards of the environment, and I and I feel compelled to speak more so for the public to understand. with the closing of the um CRP property out by the
airport. Um the first phase is expected to be completed by uh end of 2027 with the next phases starting the beginning of 2028. That's 744 square ft of warehouse space. Along with that comes
truck traffic. As of right now, all the truck traffic is going to go through this city. So, if you live on Main Street, if you live on um which is 49 or 47 or even Caramel Road, you're going to get that truck traffic. So, if you can imagine the traffic that will uh support
744 square ft. This project cannot be complete unless there's something done with NAB Avenue. All right? So, there will be only one phase. So, one of the previous uh uh uh public members also mentioned something about
the um the taxpayers are losing because the payment of the bond is taken away from the pilot. Think about it this way. 744 square ft. We get $400,000. Our pilot is reduced and then the public has to deal with the truck traffic unless it
proceeds. And as of right now, there is no funding. And from what I can tell, cuz I can't get an answer to this, there is no plan for when the NAB Avenue is supposed to break ground or even start. Now, according to the um to [clears throat] what you approved
tonight, I do believe NAB Avenue has to be completed for phase 2 or at least in the works for phase two, and that is about a year and a half away. And we all know in this room that it does not take over a year and a half to go through all the approval processes plus get the funding to be done by a year and a half.
If it if it does not proce proceed to phase two, the city will be stuck with truck traffic on every major route through it and that bridge will not be done by 2028. It will not. And do you have assurances that it can handle not only the construction traffic that will start,
which is due to be be I guess the fall this fall, plus the um truck traffic that's uh support 744 square ft if that bridge can handle it. So it'll make traffic that much worse. Thank you, Miss Stevens.
>> Mrs. Davis. >> Hi. Um, Donna Styles Milo. Um, I serve as the coordinator of services here at the Trinity First Hope Center. Um, first off, I'd like to express my appreciation
to both uh, Commissioners Vanella and K. Um the respect and dignity and compassion that was shown by that group that went out last Thursday was just I I so appreciate that. Um I want to tell
you that the out of the seven guests that we encountered that day um we're still working with three, four are doing very very well. So they are making progress. they're we're trying to get them as many services as we can to get them out of
the situation they were in. So, thank you so much. Um I know in case somebody doesn't know what the Hope Center does, um we are a 7-day a week meal program. We serve not
only the unhoused, we also serve those who are facing in food insecurity or food insufficiency. Um, it's amazing, unfortunately, how many senior citizens we get from the neighboring highrises who come to a meal every day. Um, let's
face it, food prices are going up and social security doesn't quite keep up to it. >> So, it's fine. That's why we're there. We are also the site for Mobile Code Blue, which thankfully is wrapped up. It's
been a very, very brutal winter. Uh, we were open 74 nights this past winter >> and with the exception of two paid overnight staff who work from 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. Our entire program is
volunteer staffed and run. So, our volunteers are enjoying this weather. I'm enjoying this weather, trust me. Um, but we are the site for that. We will also be the site for Milville code red um this summer which will act as the
cooling center not just for the unhoused but again for anybody who may not have air conditioning who may not have access to fans our doors are going to be open. Um but what we're very very excited about and why I'm here is that on May
Monday May 4th um we will be celebrating the sixth birthday of the Hope Center. Um and we will this will be an outdoor celebration in
our parking lot. Um we like to be loud so why not take it all outdoors. Uh we have a lot of services coming. We have complete care bringing their mobile units. We have um board of social services are going to be there. We have addiction counselors are going to be there. We have mental health counselors
are going to be there. It it's all about trying to make it a one-stop shop for anybody who might need it. We're going to have food. We're going to have music. I'm hoping to have a mobile barber shop and our guys can get free haircuts. You're first in line, right? All righty. [laughter]
The best part is the ice cream truck is coming at 12:00. Um, that's what they're most excited about. But, um, I'm here to extend an invitation to the entire commission. Um, our party is going to run from 10:00 in the morning to 1:00 in
the afternoon. So, um, we would love it if you could stop in. uh you know get a firsthand view up front. I mean you've all been there but this could be upfront personal volunteers will all be there. Guests
will be there but we'd love to have you guys there also. So thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> Good evening commissioners. How you doing? Robert Mcuade from Milville. um also a host of talk around Milville and
a former city commissioner. Uh just wanted to give you some handout like we do have the radio show and we man mentioned to you and said you could come on to the show. I've talked to Mayor Dixon. He's very busy man but I've talked to all all of you and except for Sherman but I was a little disappointed
in you Sherman because Wayne or Dave asked you and you said absolutely not. You wouldn't come on the show. So I took that as >> not doing any more radio shows. Was that not doing any more radio shows? Yeah, that I what I'm doing is trying to give you guys a PR for the city. You're looking for it and it's free and I'm paying for it. Um, we had the hope chest
on there with Denise and actually they were on there and they got a response of over $500 from somebody that came on to the radio show. So, I have I'm putting it out there for you your opportunity. If you don't want to come on, at least give us some information so we can give it to the people and, you know, we could
talk with them. We're not here. We're not on the radio show to tear you apart. We're not on the radio show to bow you like some other hosts would do. Um, you know, it would be nice if you could. Other than that, uh, we were talking, we had you on live on the radio show tonight from people talking up here
about the data center. No one brought up about the data center that's off of Clayville, off of Lincoln Avenue. I know it's violent, but it's a hop, skip, and a jump, and a kiss for Millville. Okay. It's real close. So what is I know you can't we can't do anything about it but
what is the environmental issue problem with that so close to Milville why didn't they build it up on northern part of island where garden road is why so close to town it seemed like e precast had some type of a deal may possibly with the land that they sold and had it
here for Millville close to Milville are we trying to are they trying to like share service or something I mean I'm just trying to figure out why it was so that area was picked or is Northeast Pre-cast trying to uh get some type of financial benefit from it. But regardless of what's going to happen is
that the environmental issues that the people were talking that we were listening to tonight on the radio show is going to exactly come to us from Clayville if we don't watch what's going on. So are they going to use our water? Are they going to use some of our electric that because I don't think Vinyl Electrical Plant is capable enough
to take care of that entire thing because we do have a grid on Second Street across from uh Walgreens. So, are they going to use that? Um or are they going to kind of share service in that? I mean, that's that's an issue. We did have people call in for that as well. So, there was some other things I wanted
to bring up, but um I think you're doing a good job bringing people in for the police department and uh you know, your guys are fresh. People were complaining about some shootings and stuff in the beginning, but it happens. It's been it's in the
beginning. You guys are fresh into this and I'm sure before your terms up, it'll probably be way under control and the cameras are a good start. So, but again, if you could any of you take the opportunity to get in touch with us so that we could It's not a game that we're
playing on that radio show. We're there because I care about the city. I do it because I care. Some people said, "Oh, it's McQuade. He's just a simple as Van Vanaman said, oh, he's just rambling." No, I'm not. I care about the city. I've been caring about the city since I got run over by a damn fire truck at Fourth and Broad and ended up with two broken
legs. And the best thing that I had and remember was police officers and firefighters coming in and take every day visiting and bringing me G.I. Joe dolls, the big ones. So, I mean, that's what made my love for the city. But as time progressed, I feel that some people
in office think that I'm basically going to say it, an idiot, and you don't like to talk to me. And that's if you have that aspect about me, you're you're wrong. You're 100% wrong. I like to play dumb sometimes so that I can get the um
answers that I need because sometimes it doesn't work out when I ask them normally. So yeah, I do feel that way. So and I felt that way with certain people I was on schoolboard with as well. >> M Thank you. >> Before you leave, I just want to say to you I I don't get a chance to come on
your show because I do work at night, right? >> In the morning, I work here [clears throat] during the day and then I work at night. being as PR part of what I do. If you would I do listen to your shows sometimes and um I do look at social media and sometimes it's frustrating on my part when I hear you talk about
things and I sit there and I go wrong wrong wrong. If you are gonna know we're going to be talking about an issue, I know I can't come on myself. Send me some questions. Email me some questions and I'd be happy to give you some. >> A lot of it's a spur of a moment thing that comes out when we >> I know. Or, you know, if you're talking about something you're not sure, make
some notes, send me some questions. Be happy to talk. It's I'm not avoiding you. It's just I I do work at night, >> right? Yeah. I know you're not because you're a professor as well, but we did want We were going to have Tracy come on and she was willing, but for some reason your business administrator said no. And I'm not trying to bring her on and try
to get to batter the city. I'm bringing her on so she can feed the city some information. So that's transparency is what we want. >> Right. I get that. I don't know if that's the role of some of our uh employees. It's not a policy that we But me being, you know, part >> Well, that came from the business administrator and I'm not happy about that. >> Exactly. And that's the policy I believe
he has for the rest of the employees. So just send me send your questions and I'll be happy to get you answers that I can and I I I want to engage with you. Uh I just can't do it on your show. Well, I'd like to get information about the data center from there from Violin, how how that's going to affect us because it's so >> you you came in a little late. A lot of
people talked about that. >> I We heard it. We did hear it because it does have the environmental issue is still able to come over this way. It's like a hot skip and a jump. It's like from me to you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thanks, Bob. >> Even again, Tim Spananiel Milwell.
>> Commissioner Taylor, I know this is on you. I know that your predecessor decimated the police force in the last four years. He started out with 84 and I think he left it with 5560. >> Let me relate a couple incidents. >> Is his microphone on? >> I'm sorry. Is it on?
>> He's just taller than the microphone. >> Sorry. So, let me relate a couple incences that happened to me or didn't happen to me but I went through twice in March. I had the fortunate uh occasion to to go to Maine, visit my son, my
granddaughter, my my daughter-in-law. Both times coming back down the Parkway, ring notification. My wife's reading to me, gunshot victim in in Melville, man barricaded. It basically was telling us to avoid certain areas.
I have videos and you probably have seen them of one man. It's not funny. He's out in public and defecating on a public street. I know this isn't your fault. I know that you you came into this, but we need
help because it's not if, it's when somebody innocent is going to get injured. It's coming. Friday night, there was a brawl at the Wawwa near the high school, right? Five or six people got arrested and that's what I was told. Right before this meeting I got a I got
a text message same waw wa guy reaches over the counter and tries to snatch cash out of it. So something happened. I guess it was a fight and Noble was called. The other question I have is we pay we have a shared services agreement with the sheriff's department
with the UE money that we pay them. Why are they not in the UAE zones and Milville PD who you know basically know the streets know Milville are out in that reverse role. That's I'm just trying to
get my head around that because I I would think you would want the people who know Milville and the sheriff's department would be in the UE zones like High Street on Third Friday. that way you know they would be there to assist. Switching off that and again I
understand what you walked into. I saw 600 block of High Street which is the gateway to the city is atrocious. What did we just have? We had a guy found in a pickup truck behind that restaurant there dead from another day. We had the
place shot up. Apparently, this video [clears throat] that I was referencing happened right around that area. It never ends. And I just, you know, when you want to present a good picture to people coming into our city, that's the gateway to the city.
People will drive by them. And now it's not winter time anymore and it's going to be a long summer. I have a bad feeling. I think I think I don't know exact statistics. We have four or five people shot since January. that that's disheartening. I've been
here 40 years as far as, you know, what to be done. I don't know what the answer is. I know what I'd like to do, but I'm not in that position. I think we just you just need I mean, I have a video of a of a of a
bunch of kids running through Milville, pulls out a Glock, it's got a 30 round extended magazine. Now, I'm a gun guy, okay? I mean, I can tell you. I mean, I've shot all my life. I've always had firearms. A 17, 18 year old kid driving around
with that. I'll show you the video if you want. I have it on the phone. It's it's it's scary. It's >> Can can you see that kid's face in that video? >> Excuse me. >> Can you see that? >> You can't see who it is. They hide themselves. >> And then you have, I guess, a self-proclaimed rapper who says he's
going to take six bodies in Milville. I mean, I have that video, too. So, they were all sent to me. I didn't find them on my own. They were sent to me. Just I just want you I know you're aware, but it's concerning more and more to to
people who live here all their lives who are elderly, can't defend themselves if somebody breaks into their house. And I think that all the emphasis we put on things um
concerning the city, I think a lot of emphasis should be put on that. That's my feeling. Switching over back over to zoning and
preventing different entities coming. I don't know how I feel about data data center. I think that there's not enough known yet. There's not empirical evidence either way. But when you have a zoning law or restriction in place, nimi,
not in my backyard, it's not an argument, >> Mr. Spang. Your time is expired. >> Well, I just I think that you're going to wind up in court over this. That's my feeling. Thank you. >> So, just one quick thing, Mr. Span. So
we are on the uh road to being at the 85 cap probably around September, October. >> Sure. >> Um just today myself and uh finance commissioner K talking about how we can
um raise that cap to 100 or 105. >> Can I said 105? I know my time's I just I understand that but you know it still presents the problem where you have young officers and I know it's it's from application to graduation it's about a
year and a half >> about a year. >> Yeah. >> So once you OJT into that Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Hello. My name is Lisa Lowour. I live on Cedar Street out near the airport. Good ne good evening everyone. I want to
speak tonight on three issues that while are different on the surface are deeply connected to the overall quality of life and public safety in our community. Panhandling, brush and leaf collection, and basic municipal service
responsiveness in the city of Milville. Let me be direct. Residents are not asking for luxury. They are asking for order, safety, and consistency in the basic functions of their city. When those fundamentals slip, everything
else feels harder. Public trust weakens, neighborhoods feel neglected, and people begin to lose confidence that their concerns are being heard. First, panhandling. No one is suggesting that we ignore people in need. Compassion is not the issue. But we must
also be honest about what residents are experiencing everyday at intersections, exit ramps, and busy commercial areas. People stepping into traffic, approaching vehicles aggressively, or lingering in high traffic zone creates
real safety concerns, not just for drivers, but for the individuals themselves. We cannot normalize conditions where residents feel uncomfortable rolling down their windows at a red light or where visitors form a negative impression of our city the moment that they enter it. Public spaces
must remain safe, accessible, and orderly for everyone. This is not about criminalizing poverty. It is about enforcing reasonable already established public safety boundaries. If someone is in need, the appropriate
response is referral to services, not allowing unsafe activities in roadways or high-risk intersections. Law enforcement and social services must work together with clear protocols. Redirect, assist, and when necessary,
enforce existing ordinances consistently and fairly. Second, the brush and leaf collection. This is one of those issues that may seem minor until it directly affects your home. Residents see piles of brush sitting for extended periods of
time. Leaves accumulate, curb appeals decline, drainage can be impacted, and the frustration grows when pickup schedules are inconsistent or very unclear. People are not asking for perfection. They're asking for reliability.
If we ad advertise a service, we must have the operational capacity to deliver it. If staffing, equipment or scheduling is not sufficient, then we need to acknowledge that honestly and adjust expectations or invest in improvements.
What cannot continue is a service system where residents are left guessing when or if their ser their streets will even be serviced for trash or brush. A city functions best when small issues are handled before they become large ones.
Brush left too long becomes dumping. Leaves left too long becomes flood risks. And both become symbols of neglect. Even when the intent of city workers is the exact opposite. Third and more broadly public safety and
municipal responsiveness. These issues are not isolated. They reflect a larger question. How effectively are we maintaining the day-to-day standards that residents rely on Public safety is not only a major crime. It is also about whether people feel
safe walking into a store, driving through an intersection, or just living on a clean and maintained street. It is about whether rules are enforced consistently. Is it about whether city services arrive when promised? When basic systems work, everything else
becomes easier. Businesses invest more confidently, neighborhoods take pride in the upkeep, families feel more secure, and the city's reputation improves naturally without marketing or slogans. But when these systems are inconsistent, the opposite happens. Small problems
compound, frustration builds, and trust erodess. >> 30 seconds. >> So what is the path forward? We start with the basics. Clear enforcement of pan handling regulations to prioritize safety and compassion. A transparent and realistic brief and leaf collection schedule. A renewed commitment from all
departments. Because at the end of the day, a city is judged by not by its promises, but its followthrough. Residents of the city of Milva are not asking for the impossible. They're asking for consistency, accountability, and respect for the neighborhood. If we can't get the basics right, truly right, then everything else becomes possible.
But if we continue to struggle with the fundamentals, we will always be trying to catch up. Let's choose a better path. Let's focus on what matters. Let's deliver the letter of service and safety for this community that it deserves. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause]
Hi, Cindy Cook, Billville. I want to say thank you very much commissioners that showed up March 31st walking down High Street taking in our town. It was great to see
you there. We had at the on that date two shows for the littlest school kids of live performance of Winnie Deoo. That day we had over 700
little bits come and enjoy the show. We had 11 schools from not only Cumberland County but throughout the neighboring counties also. And it was great that you all were walking around and you happened to see that you know as some of the
transition was taking place. Now, on Wednesday, April 22nd, I'm hoping you will come out again for the Teen Arts Festival. This is a annual event.
It is going to be throughout High Street, primarily at the Levoy. And what happens is students from Cape May County and Cumberland County are adjudicated to f
determine who will go to the state levels. Last year we had quite a few from Millville go to the state level and it would be wonderful if y'all came out to see this. What happens is that the
it's not just the arts that you think of in terms of paintings. It is dedicated to literacy and the performing and the visual arts. So, if you come on out, you will see a lot. I encourage you to come, not just
you, but the public. Now, when you do, you've got to be very careful is there'll be almost a thousand kids, teens in town. and they will be, like I said, from Cumberland County and [snorts] from Cape
May County. And they're they're going to be excited um on stage at the Levo. You'll be watching a lot of them perform and you'll see upstairs in the Levoy a lot of their artwork, but their artwork will be displayed throughout the town. There
will be food trucks. The restaurants will have specials and the kids will also be able to sign up for instructional classes on some of the different venues. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss [applause]
>> Paul. Paul Perka Milville, I'm going back to chapter 30, but not the controversial part. You're also banning ADUs, which is separate from because you have a list of things that are new to being banned.
There's no explanation as to why you're uh prohibiting them. There's a lot of reasons for ADUs. And in fact, New Jersey is on the verge, they have been for a while, of passing legislation that
requires every town to allow ADUs. um that also can be controlled by the way that you allow them and where you allow them, but that's probably something that needs to be looked at. I realize that it's beating a dead horse to see you try to change the ordinance
at this point in time, but I guess you could do an amendment to it to to allow ADUs. They're the thing of the future there that it goes straight to homelessness. It goes to affordability. It goes to keeping people in the town. Um,
>> it's a good place for elderly to live. >> Just for clarificate, um, >> accessory dwelling units. >> Accessory dwelling units, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, you're you're completely banning them uh with no reasons at all in the ordinance. >> They have been already. >> They already have been.
>> It's underlined. >> Yeah. But they've been banned for >> in the in the in the recital of the ordinance. It says new new >> they've been they haven't >> new wording in the ordinance is underlined. >> Yeah, they haven't been allowed since
before I've been here. >> People have tried to come to the planning board. They they have not been allowed. >> But continue. >> Okay. That doesn't make it any better. It's it's still no good. And then your ordinance is improper because
>> it's new. It's not new. It's it's been something that's been in there. >> The reason it I'm saying it's new is because the ordinance says any of the underlined text is new and it's underlined. So either that's a mistake in the ordinance or it's written
differently so it can be changed. >> Good evening Angeline Broom. Don't be scared. [laughter] I I love this. >> I wanted to correct myself before about um what I said about uh the uh
appropriations removal from the federal government. Just so to clarify, it was 1,783,000 that Booker had put in the federal budget for NAB. And because we've gotten they yanked it, White House yanked that out of our budget for NAV, that is an
issue. And I just want to correct myself on those numbers. Um, I did want to ask for uh some review of the layout of the website for cell phones. It's changed and it's really kind of
it's hard to see them now like the different sections. You know how there's like uh agendas and employment. There used to be little boxes. Well, now they're kind of like all squished in one row and some of the words are getting cut off. It's just a very odd It's hard.
like I know what those things say, but somebody else may not know what they say. It's a change. It looks different. If you could just check that out. Um, also the notifications aren't working for so when you sign up for notifications from the city for agendas
or things like that. If you could check into that, that's been ongoing for a long time long before you guys got here. But I'll just figure out ask because you guys seem to be really working on things and I'm really excited about that. >> Miss Primo, they're not working at all. I'm not getting anything. And I used to
I used to get text messages, then the text messages stopped. Then I got emails about like new agendas. Then that stopped. Now I don't get anything. The only thing I'll ever get is something like from the planning board secretary directly to my city email. But anything like from the city to a citizen, and
again that's not anything with you guys or this has been go ongoing for a long time. But because of the good things that I'm about to point out, I just have confidence that you'll fix that for me. You guys are going to have an amazing legacy for what you're doing, what
you've done tonight. This is going to be your legacy. If you ever wanted to put your thumbrint on this city, you did it tonight. I'm so grateful for it. No matter how this works out in future tech, maybe legal battles, everyone here
and everyone watching knows you stood up for us. Thank [applause] you for genuinely from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Um
and uh Mr. Dixon. Wow. You did not give yourself credit for something you said tonight. That's so vitally important. And I think a lot of people in here who care about the environment missed what you said. It's something that I've been
fighting for for eight years or more. The addressing of the lead and transite water manes. Thank you. I have asked for this for so many years. This is such an important issue.
And here you guys are in three, four months, four months addressing our water. Thank you. Don't minimize that. Don't minimize it to the engineer. Don't minimize it to you guys. You just zipped right over that and I'm like, this is
something I've begged for. So, thank you all so very much for tonight. Again, don't be afraid of me because I'm I I am scary sometimes and rude. But >> does that mean you're a fan of me now, Mr. >> For tonight? Yes, I am. I am [laughter]
I am definitely I'm a fan of your work tonight. Let's just leave it at that. So, I am a fan of of >> it. It should be addressed. It should >> just so you know, sometimes he likes that stuff in writing or in a text so he can put it on his wall.
>> Well, it it will be on disrupting because I've addressed these water. >> This is on camera. >> It's on camera. It's on the record. Put it on my wall. It's on the record and I will also put it on disrupting because I've mentioned many times on disrupting the water manes and the lack of um
attention that [clears throat] are lead water manes and are unidentified because we have a lot that we don't even know what they are. And um >> the exact quote is I'm a fan of you tonight. That's what's going on. >> I'll take I I'll do it for tonight. I'll I'll do it for tonight. But and Miss Broomh Hall, just to let you know, the
um we're doing a whole uplift uh a facelift, if you will, the website and everything. So, >> we're in the process of redoing that whole thing. >> Thank you. And one last little thing, though, I hate to go back the agenda. If when there's changes to the agenda, if we could cross off what's been removed
and italicize what's been added, that's it's an issue because when things are are changed, I have no idea what's changed. So, I keep having to read through the whole thing. Maybe I missed it. So again, if something gets added or removed, so something gets added, put it in italis. If it gets um removed, an
extra. That's all I want to leave on a good note. Thank you. >> You were being nice, so I got to go. [applause] All right. See, seeing no one else at the podium, I will close the public comment portion of the meeting and we will It's a long night, so we will
quickly have final comments from commissioners. Let's start off with Commissioner Taylor. I love the enthusiasm of the citizens of Milville. I do. I don't care if you get up there and have problems. I don't care if you get up there and have good things
to say. You're here, right? You're here. You're engaging. We have more than five or six people in the room tonight. It's outstanding. It's amazing. This is what we thrive on. It's what we thrive on.
And it it doesn't matter who you are. where you're from, Vinland, Bridton, Hamilton, wherever you're here to talk about something that's important to you that we can have an influence on. And I
think it's great. And with that, I yield. >> Thank you, Mr. Taylor or Commissioner Taylor. Commissioner Reella. >> Yes. So, my notes are all over the place, so bear with me. Uh, a lot of people in the room tonight. A lot of people had left already. Uh but it's just wonderful to see uh so many people
come out um speak out about what they're passionate about, remain civically engaged. Um seeing a lot of moms with young children, I think that's wonderful. I know it's very hard, but if you uh really believe in something, uh it's important to make the time to make
sure that that's heard. I also I think he left the young gentleman, but Mr. Snopoulos, a 17-year-old young man. Um, I love seeing young people civically engaged. You don't really see enough of that. Uh, I hope to see Mr. Synopoulos
up here again. Uh, and maybe he could bring another few young people uh, with him next time. Um, comments about Sorry, I wanted to address Miss Lowour. Um, I heard you loud and clear. Um, I
agree with you 100% about our public spaces, uh, working personally, uh, and I know Commissioner Taylor and I had discussed a lot of things for public safety in our public spaces. Um, I wanted to point something out to you about panhandling that I had to find out two years ago. Uh, there is a case
called Reed versus Town of Gilbert, uh, which, uh, says that, uh, panhandling is not illegal. uh if somebody obstructs the flow of traffic and jumps in front of your vehicle or something like that, that's different. That's enforceable. Uh but it's an interesting case and I
recommend you look up Reed versus Town of Gilbert because it blew my mind. Um Tanner Dowski coming up for the Millville Historical Society. Uh he said April 11th at the Wood Mansion uh 19th century Milville. That sounds really
exciting. Uh you've kind of encouraged me to bring my vintage kitchen. you uh yeah, there's a lot of it. You don't want me to bring it all. Um [laughter] [snorts] and uh you know that uh I've been excited about the Mount Pleasant Cemetery Tour. So uh no matter what I
have to do, I will be there for that for sure. Uh encouraging everybody to go to that too on April 25th. Uh just want to again thank everybody for coming out. Uh thanking fellow commissioners um for doing important work together. Um,
[cough] a lot of previous commissions didn't have that. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner Reynold. Commissioner Con. >> Okay. I'm pleased and thrilled to death to hear the school board working with us
again. That is a big big thing for me. I want to thank everyone for coming out. uh come out on the 25th to the Mount Pleasant tour because Commissioner Reanella and I will be twinning it because I love cemeteries. So, I will be
there. Um Denise and um [laughter] you can do it. >> Are we dressing the same? >> You want to [laughter] >> Donna and Denise have left, but I cannot say enough about the Hope Center. Um,
they do more for the homeless and they do it with dignity and love and fairness. They are phenomenal. Phenomenal. If any of you have a chance to get out there to go visit to see what they do do, it's
phenomenal. It is just fantastic. Um, Mrs. Lowour, if you see me afterwards, I'd like to talk to you for a second. And I can say this in behalf of this board that I sit with, the most important thing is to keep going and we will be keep going. Thank you.
>> Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner Cosman. Vice Mayor Cot off the bat. >> Yeah, I'll keep it under 45 minutes. Um cameras, just so you know, um there's policy, there's case numbers. you.
Anything that involved cameras in the city of Milville has to have a legitimate purpose, reason, and followup. So that's not just with camera. We already have cameras. So cameras aren't new. When we say cameras are coming, we already have them. We're just placing them at different spots
now. So we already have policy in place that you can't do this, this, this, and this. Um so I feel highly confident that um we'll be okay with it. um mobile center uh for uh they talked about out
the hope center. This goes for anybody that's struggling with health insurance or anything that the complete care that we have in Milville takes everybody. And I don't know if they want me telling that right now, but um don't ever feel like you have to go without if you lack
health insurance, if you lack, you know, uh access to anything, they will accept you. Um they bring out a mobile unit on May 4th. So, you know, if you know anybody, have them go out there. Um, they literally bring them right out to the uh hope center. Uh, UEE. Um, so you
are correct. Uh, we are, it's mostly all Milville doing the uee thing. Uh, we only use a sheriff's department if we can't fill it. Um, but probably 90% of the slots are by our own uh patrolling that uee. Um, agenda.
uh maybe we could figure out something, but in this case, we couldn't put anything in italics because there was no writing that was changed. We added um uh a backup that wasn't there. So maybe we can figure out an asterk or something so
you and draw your eye to it. But that's why there's no italics because there's nothing changed in the wording. It was just added. And the minute you add that, it shows amended on there. So, uh we'll work with that. uh the panhandling leaf collection and structure. We've been
talking about that for uh since before we got on. Just trying to figure out some of those and walk those fine lines of uh how we can make the public know a little bit better. Uh because if you live in Milville, you do understand you have brush between uh 2025 and 2026. Um
we'll be out there, right? So hopefully we're working on certain things behind the scenes that maybe we can help with um a different software we got coming. Uh Cindy, um I didn't recognize you. You were hanging with a bunch of animals the
other day and your ears looked a little bit bigger the last time I saw you. So um they all dressed up like the Witty Pooh animals the other day. So that was a pleasant surprise when you're walking on High Street. And there's Cindy Cook with ears. Um, so that's always a good
day. Um, and with that, that's all I have for now. Thank you. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor. I will not repeat a lot of things my fellow commissioner said. I do want to do this, though. I do want to pat my fellow commissioners on the back. They don't get a lot of credit sometimes. Tonight was a a uh a outlier
for what we're used to. But I do want to I I want to congratulate everyone sitting up here because I know firsthand how much time they put in. And I know there's been commissions in the past where people have worked full-time jobs during the day and they try to do I don't know how you can work a full-time
job and possibly be a commissioner. It just doesn't work. If you have a full-time job, I don't think you should be a commissioner if you work during the day when everything's going on. There's that much going on. I know uh Commissioner Taylor probably there more than I am. And I'm there a lot. I'm
there every day, probably 30 hours a week. You're there more than I am. Commissioner Cop, he's equally there. and Commissioner Reinelloo and Commissioner Casabin work offsite, so I don't see them as much, but I know they're putting in as much time as we are. This is probably the most engaged um commission that this city has ever
seen. I can't say that for sure. Look at all the old pictures. But, you know, um I would imagine this is probably the most engaged commission that this city's ever seen. We come here and we work we honestly work on problems all day long trying to And I get your frustration. I
really get the frustration with public safety. We all live here, too. When we see somebody getting shot and we see pan handlers and we I'm equally frustrated, but we come here every day looking for solutions and and there's solutions we're going to find. Does it take a little longer? You know, I I like
analogies. And if you have a car that you never change the oil and you you never change the tires and you let the transmission go bad and you don't change the brakes and you know you let a lot of things, you know, go go bad on your car, what's going to happen? You're going to have a transmission that's gone bad. You're going to have an engine that's
gone bad and then it's going to take a lot of time and a lot of money to fix your car. That's kind of where we are as a city. It's going to take time and it's going to take money to fix what's kind of been neglected. you know, and and we got [snorts] to we got to work ourselves back from a a police force that has been
woefully understaffed. And Commissioner Taylor, every day he's there looking for solutions. If you come in and see his office, he's got a giant board of a hundred things on there. Um our our business administrator, there's he's got three four whiteboards with with solutions and problems all over it. You
have never seen a commission and a and a a management at the city that has really engaged the way it's engaged now. You just haven't. It hasn't happened. I can't imagine that. You know, not putting any past commissions down, but there's limitations if you work all day.
You just can't engage the way that we've engaged. Um I work very early in the morning. I work at night. So, I spend my entire most of my days here at city hall and I know all the other commissioners do as well. Not trying to pat myself on the back because they are engaged just as I am. And uh I I tell everybody this
is the uh you're getting a bargain with the people sitting up here. We're getting paid about $6 an hour and uh the city's getting a bargain for the the amount of work we're putting in. Um so but but just understand we understand your frustration and we are working on these problems. Um everything people
have mentioned tonight when they come up and they're upset about these are things that these are not new to us. Um these are things we've talked about time and time again and there are solutions in the works. A lot of times we don't want to come up here and say, "Hey, we're working on this." when it's not ready to
be rolled out yet. So just when you come up with a problem, it's not a new it's not something that we haven't thought of. It's something that we're currently working on all the time. Um and let me see anything else I want to talk about. That's pretty much all I
have, but uh I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight. um love when you come out and express your uh your voice and let us know. Love it even more when it's positive. Um but we we tend we trying to do positive things for the city. Uh you know, you've put our trust
in us and we try every day to not let you folks down. >> So with that, can I get a motion to adjourn? >> Like to make a motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cot. Yeah.