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Call this meeting to order for July 17th, 2026. Can I get a roll call, please? >> Commissioner Taylor >> here. >> Vice Mayor Cot >> here. >> Commissioner Kasabun >> here. >> Commissioner Reella is absent. Mayor Dixon >> here. Please join me in a salute

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> This meeting is being conducted in accordance open.

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>> No, you can. >> There we go. Better. This meeting is being conducted in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act of 1975. Was advertised, posted, and made available to the public as required by statute. The municipal clerk is directed to include a statement in the minutes of

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this meeting. Madame clerk, are there any changes to the agenda? >> There are none, mayor. >> All right. I'd like to invite the public for comments on agenda items only. If you'd like to make a comment, please approach the podium. Uh, state your name and address and keep your comments to

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approximately five minutes. >> Hello. Uh, Tamara Davis, Milville. Um my comments might slightly go over five minute mark. So please if you could bear with me. This is in regards to the first reading of the uh sign to permit digital

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board signs under limited circumstances. Um I had a chance to review parts of it and you know our sign ordinance is very very detailed and very convoluted and there could be areas of where it could be contradictory but there's just a couple small things that I noticed on

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this that maybe warrants some comment. First of all, and I'll do this by section, so if you have it in front of you, you can follow along. Um, point number two, two specifically, I guess the first

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point, which will be the one I two I the sign area shall be no long the sign area shall be no larger than 50 square feet. Now, first off, just so you understand the definition of the sign area and that is defined in the ordinance. Um the sign

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area is the measurement of the entire surface plane of the sign ex exclusive of the supporting structure. So whether it stands on sign like a monument or freestanding. So that means that just the display portion is 50 square feet. That's big. That's really really big for

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a residential area. I mean to give you some context the way other signs are um square footage for other businesses and such for churches and hospitals and schools it's a 20 square foot sign area and for apartment complexes it's 40

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square foot area. So in a residential area it's larger than both of those. So in the copy it is highlighted in yellow. So I don't know if it's something that is some going to be reviewed but a sign area of 50 square feet is very rarely

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large. is 5 by10. So imagine a 5x10 rug for a residential area. That's big. Okay. Um so I don't know if something else could be it could be reduced. I'm suggesting it might be reduced down to four or maybe even less to 35 square

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feet. Um non-conforming I something else and I know I can I'll get to that later. Um so that's the one thing I noticed. The other thing that I noticed is this will be number six.

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The changeable copy portion of the sign shall not exceed 1/3 of the total sign area of 24 square ft whichever is less. So obviously if you decide to reduce the allowable square footage that area may be uh

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reduced as well. However, here's where it gets a little tricky. There's a definition of changeable copy versus digital. Changeable copy and the definition is in the ordinance is the message on the sign can e can be easily and periodically

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altered and typical for gas station. So WAWA has a changeable sign. All it changes is the price of the gas. They don't have any digital other messages saying that it's you know some kind of sale going on. Milville Savings that's a digital sign. So, I don't know if that's

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just I know it's just the way it's written, but you might want to change that particularly to say digital portion or I don't know if there's there's other words for it, but that could be causing a little confusion because if there is a gas station in a

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residential area, the gas station might want to change it to a digital sign. You're looking at me. Does it make sense? I >> think so. It's all in the definition. >> Yes. >> And um that that's something that should probably be looked at. Um

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so, so you know, simple change of word might might be able to do that. Um I'm just worried about, you know, if there's a gas station in the middle of a residence area, which I can't think off the top of my head, they might want to change to a digital sign. The other thing in section B, dis digital display

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standards. This one I looked up and a lot of municipalities have this written in their ordinance. Um, something about wording for a malfunction. So, if the digital sign should malfunction, if there's a storm and the the signage or the lettering comes out all gobbly

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you know, sometimes that happens to a computer or something comes out all weird. Um, it there should could be or should be a default that the digital sign immediately turns off and is blank until it's fixed by the human, whoever is controlling the sign. Um, because

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otherwise it could be just different weird letters. Um, and you know that's not a good look. Um, the other thing that makes me a little worried is our sign ordinance does not really discuss billboards per se, and there are some within city

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limits, believe it or not. Um maybe since there is no mention of these type of signs and some of these billboards are within like residential areas. So there should be something maybe a

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blanket statement that um no digital billboards at all. Um >> I'm pretty sure in not to interrupt you but I'm pretty sure in there in the ordinance it says this the digital sign applies only to Stop this. Okay. Applies only to

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um freestanding signs and >> well freestanding and monument. But if you don't define billboards, it might be assumed that it could be done >> if it's not mentioned directly because billboards is a whole different thing. >> It is. >> So, and there's no mention already of anything about billboards. There are some pre-existing billboards.

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>> In the ordinance, it says that the sign has to be on the premises of the business. It's in there, >> right? But billboards is a business. No, no, it has to be on on the premises of the operating business. >> Okay.

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>> I still think you should consider it. >> Well, that's >> Yeah. Yeah. I still think you should I see what you're saying. >> You know what I mean? Like if you're allowing conversion, the assumption could be I can convert my billboard to a digital. >> Not saying that it will happen. >> Yeah. >> But I'm saying that it's a good thing to

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because we do have out on 49 40. Yeah. 49 there's billboards. I don't think there's any. There could be 47 south south and I know there's one on Cedarville Road somewhere small but you don't want to get yourself in a position

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where all a sudden it's digital because it borders residents. Um and that brings me to my last point. Um actually there's one other point but it says here back in this it says within a residential zoning. Now here's the part

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that scares me. pre-existing non-conforming. I get it. I know it exists. I know it happens. But if you have a pre-existing non-conforming sign in a residential area that that's advertising a business, let's just say, and I'm not saying this

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exists, could be somewhere. We don't know. That's a 75 foot sign. And then you want to convert that because in the next line, the digital message board shall be a direct replacement or conversion in size, shape, and area of the existing sign that it will replace. So the assumption could be, okay, I have

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the 75 square foot sign on my front yard to advertise my business. I'm in medium density residential and I'm going to replace that with a digital board. So I, you know, it's just I think it's the language and I think it's the

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assumption that could happen. Um, I'm no lawyer, so I can't fight this, but it's just the wording, you know, and I don't want anyone just to assume. I know there in some cases there are pre-existing non-conforming in residential areas and it makes sense to if it you know it's

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been running as a business and there's no houses within 100 feet. I get it. Okay, it makes sense and you can look at it and say yeah and it probably should have been you know zoned industrial or you know so and that also brings me to the last point.

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um some of our zoning like um downtown commercial, highway commercial and neighborhood commercial um which are non-residential but border homes. So, if there is a business, let's say on

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Route 47 in Highway commercial, who has, again, I'll use the same example, a 75 square foot sign, let's say it's a uh, I don't know, some kind of bodega store, and on either side there's houses, they're going to be like, "Oh, I could take my 75 square foot sign that was

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built in 1932 and make it the digital." >> But it does say 50 square feet. Well, yeah. I'm But that's no long But you're also saying that if it's pre-existing non-conforming. Yeah. Like if it's pre-existing non-conforming and it and he had a 75

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foot sign there since 1932, like you mentioned that date. >> He going to the assumption is oh, I could take that sign and make it 75 because my business has been here since 1932. >> What you're suggesting is in that part of the ordinance we should put still has to comply with the 50 square feet.

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>> Well, I think 50 square feet is large. I think that should be reduced. >> But the copy portion is only what 24 ft. The changeable portion. >> I don't just keep >> Yeah. I mean, you can have a digital sign that has the name of the company on

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top and then the the stream or you can have the whole thing be a digital sign. So there it's it's really this is where our sign ordinance gets very tricky because it's just you have to think about that. and the way our zones are done because we do have nonresidential

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zones that have residents in them and that's something that should be considered too. Now, the last thing is um in the sign ordinance, it mentions arts overlay district. And this is one of the things I if you're going to change your

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ordinance, you should probably change this too because it's also suggested by the master plan. Um change that to downtown commercial. Now, again, downtown commercial does have residents. It's a multi-use. Downtown commercial is multi-use. You have apartments above stores, etc. or

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you have uh houses mixed in between store, you know, stores and such. So, that might be something that um you might want to consider not having digital signs at all in downtown commercial. Now, downtown commercial, I'm sure you're aware, is

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from broad to here >> and I don't think it goes beyond second and >> oops, >> that was changed in the master plan, right? To the new downtown. >> Yeah, it's called downtown commercial in the master plan. It's arts overlay in in the thing. So, it should match.

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>> It should match to make sense. >> Um because I think the previous arts overlay district may have been different than what it than what exactly downtown commercial is now. Don't hold me to that. I don't quite remember. So, um I

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think that's it. So, I some of this should, you know, maybe have a little bit of change of wording maybe so it's more clear and more concise. >> Can you email these comments? >> Okay. It'll take me a few days, but I will. [laughter] >> Well, we have till Tuesday. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Well, actually over the weekend. >> Well, the planning board still has to go

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through it, right? So, I mean, I hope that this is on the record for the planning board to hear. I'll bring it up probably at the planning board. Maybe I'll find something else, but I can, you know, maybe summarize it in an email. I hope it made sense. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, it just it's our our sign ordinance I wish could be

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>> a lot of it makes sense and a lot of it's like >> really like I don't want to put up any sign because it doesn't you know my concern is the whole premise of a digital sign even the state says it's obtrusive so how are we going to make it equal you know for everybody to live

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comfortably with it >> within reason you know so >> and I'm all for change like if if it makes sense like Milville Savings made sense to make it a digital sign the Levo made sense to make that a digital sign. Makes sense, but I don't want it to go, you know, all over the board. Say, hey,

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you get a sign and you get a sign. You [laughter] know, that kind of thing. So, all right. Thank you for your time and sorry for going over five minutes. >> Thanks for doing. >> Thank you. >> Seeing no one at the podium, I will close public comment portion on agenda items only.

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Um, let's move on to discussion of commissioners. Uh, Madame Clerk. >> Yes. We have ordinances for second reading. An ordinance approving and authorizing an application for a coin drop Lawrence Township BMS. >> So, this is the uh, like I said, the

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standard um, coin drop application. It's on its last reading for approval. Um, there's no other conflicts and I believe Sam has the insurance certificates for that as well.

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an ordinance amending chapter 39 of the municipal code motor vehicle and traffic regulations add handicap parking at 323 South 3rd Street. [snorts] And this is the uh same thing handicap permit process for that address.

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>> An ordinance to amend the salary ordinance and enact certain sections. >> Yes, we talked about this last time. It's uh it's really taking the ordinance from 2025 uh and fixing some of the minimums and adding any other um

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potential uh jobs that we may have. Uh there are some with no max which we discussed that doesn't have to be and nobody's in those positions right now. If they do, they would fall under the CBA contract and there would have to be another ordinance to change any of that stuff anyway. So, it's a housekeeping

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that our personnel directors went through and um so we're on second reading for that. All right. Thanks, Vice Mayor. >> Ordinances for first reading. a bond ordinance appropriating $1,150,000 and authorizing the issuance of up to

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$1,150,000 aggregate principal amount general obligation bonds or notes of the city of Milville County of Cumberland, New Jersey for the purchase of a jet factor truck and street sweeper for the city of Milville. >> So this is pretty impressive. This is I bank. They come up and go. I I feel like

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the history they were here then they weren't here. Now they're back again. It's basically a loan, a grant through a loan. Um it's we're going to get over a million dollars worth of equipment between the truck and the street

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sweeper. This is also going to include the soft costs. Uh we paid um uh like Triad some money, we paid other people some all that soft money will be rolled in. So on the back end um we'll either give that money back or be able to move it somewhere. Um and we only pay

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interest only. That doesn't even start until after everything's ready, >> right? And it's a very low interest rate. I don't have the exact interest rate this time. Uh but it's on extremely low side and it's a it's pennies on the dollar we're getting feeds million dollars worth of contract. So um thank

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you to Triad. Thank you to our administrator uh Trish and everybody else who worked on this. Uh this is a big deal. It's a very big deal because I will tell you right now the Vector is down and I have guys right now out to Holly Heights area hand digging sand

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that has backed up because the vector is no is out of commission out of commission. >> Hand digging. >> Hand digging. >> I complain walking to my truck to hear it. >> I know. I know. >> Yeah. Just so people know the back truck it sucks out dirt and it shoots out dirt with dirt with jets to keep the storm

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drains. So when your drain is clogging up in front of your house and there's flooding, >> um this is what mitigates that problem. >> And the street sweeper technically by law we should have two. We only have one and that is also right now down. >> We we are considered a tier A MS4 permit

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city. So that requires us to do certain things as far as sweeping the streets at certain amount of times. >> Uh that's for storm water. Um anything that sits in the street goes into storm water and then eventually pollutes the river. >> Yes, it does. So the street sweeper is very important to keep any type of

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debris and dirt going into the storm water and that's it's a requirement by the state and >> both of them are over 20 years old, >> right? >> Yes. So >> absolutely >> storm water management is also um under FEMA regulations when we do uh grants and stuff they want to make sure we're

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doing that on a regular basis. >> So we do get inspected for that type of we to make sure we're complying. >> Thank you. >> Thank you Vice Mayor Commissioner Cosby. an ordinance amending Milville Code Chapter 30, land use and development regulations, article 22, signs to permit

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digital message board signs under limited circumstances. >> And we just talked about that and uh we're going to keep looking that over the weekend and on Monday and we'll see what uh hashes out on Tuesday. >> Resolutions resolution authorizing tax and utility adjustments.

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>> Yeah, if this is a tax collector going through five pages of uh adjustments have to make PB through water, sewer, and um solid waste. That's it. >> Resolution authorizing special

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assessment of municipal leans for certain properties incurred by Milville relating to emergency repairs. >> This was for we we mentioned this last time. This [snorts] was for the uh the on High Street the facade that was falling. So, that is I think it was a

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little over $7,000 that that cost that is going to be rolled up into a uh lean on the property. Uh people in that property are not responsive to uh any of our calls or any of our attempts to contact them. So, that will be a lean that is put on the property to be

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collected in the same manner as uh property taxes. >> Resolution authorizing amendment number three to Millville glass and door contract. This is just the third uh the third extension of Nova Glass and Door.

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They're the ones that do our uh board and secure. So when there's a property that is abandoned or uh needs to be secured, they're the ones that go out and do it for us. So this is uh the third extension on that contract. >> And if they do board and secure, there's

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a lean placed on the house. Absolutely. At home. Thank you. That's what I Whoever owns it if it's a person. Yeah. Resolution requesting approval for the insertion of a special item of revenue funded through the New Jersey Department of Law and Public Safety Division of

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Administration for the 2026 Safe and Secure Grant. So, this is a grant that the police department has gotten uh several years um or several different times. It goes uh to help with offset salaries for uh

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officers and salaries and used in um certain areas of the city. Resolution authorizing approval of water and sanitary sewer main extension. So this is a Commissioner Ranello. Uh

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this is an extension for 1400 uh dividing creek road. Uh they're looking just at connecting to the city's water and sewer >> because they want to Yes. They were just at the planning board. Yes. >> Okay. resolution authorizing approval to

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submit a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for the project entitled LIF2027 Broad Street Reconstruction and Traffic Signal Improvements. >> So, this is a project that goes all the way back to 2016.

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>> It is the upgrading of Broad Street. problem with with city is if everybody anybody's tried to go from I'm sure vice mayor you've tried to go from the west side or the east side of town the better side of town to the west side where you grew up we always talk about I'm an eastsider you're a westsider but uh

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sometimes it takes 20 minutes to get from one side of town to another um so one of the uh grants that we're going to be going for here or not grants but the uh appropriations we're going for here is meant to take broad street and make

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it a more um travelable road to help ease congestion through the city. And that's what this is going to help do. It's going to be repaving Broad Street, you know, uh fixing the curbs, making sure the lights are uh synchronized >> so we don't have to stop at every light. >> So that's what happens. You try to go

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through Nobody goes down broad street for that reason. Everybody turns down tent and goes down. So if you can get through town a little quicker that way, um it would ease traffic through the rest of the city. So, it's going to actually replace the lights uh not just the uh synchronize them, it's going to actually place replace the lights as

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well, and it's going to synchronize them to make uh hopefully make Broad Street a little more easily traveled. So, that's what's going on here. So, there's two grants. Uh uh there's going to be a grant for the uh the engineering cost which is I believe seven uh 17,000 and

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there's another appropriation for um 3 million that we're going to uh be applying for through uh >> infrastructure funds and then we're going to be applying through CMAC funds for the actual project. So this is not being paid for by the uh the taxpayer

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which is a great thing as well. Okay. And if I'm not mistaken, I think the engineer told me that this was something the county started. >> Yes. >> And stopped it, kicked it back to the city, but never let anybody know about it. >> And so now he has he's found this and >> we're just fixing what they

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>> This will be a good thing because I think we were talking about originally using uee funds for this road, which I think there's >> there's better uses for UE, as we always say, is meant for economic development. And I think uh this is a better way to go about paying for this than using UE

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funds for sure. >> So >> either way, it's progress. >> Other resolution is >> they're going to be on new business. >> The last resolution.

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>> Oh yes, never mind. I was jumping ahead. U resolution requesting permission per NJSA4A 4-39 for the dedication by Ryder for fees associated with tree move tree removal and replacement within the city of Milville as required by NJD municipal

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storm water requirements and the municipal shade tree commission. So the state in its uh infinite wisdom uh in 2023 required all but I think eight municipalities to um require people who are clearing land to replace tree for

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tree um when anybody if you're taking a tree out of your yard you know for commercial development even residential that [snorts] you have to replace I believe it's four feet above the ground 6 in uh for non- street trees uh 6 inch diameter that you have to replace one for one if

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it's a bigger tree, you have to place more trees. Um, so what happens is uh we have to take a closer look at this uh this ordinance the way that we wrote it because it it there it's missing a few things. I went down the rabbit hole yesterday with this and uh I think

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there's some things deficient with the ordinance the way it stands. Um but this creates a fund for when somebody wants to pay into the tree fund. Say they have a property and they're clearing 200 trees and they're putting up a uh you know a little warehouse or something. Well, let's say

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there's no place to put 200 trees back on the property. They have to find either find somewhere to put them in the city or they can pay into a fund and this creates a separate account for that fund. That's really all this is doing. This isn't changing an ordinance doing this is just creating a fund for those

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monies to go into because we don't currently Am I right, Trish? >> Correct. >> All right. Good. I thought I had it right. No, you did good. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> So, um, in talking with Sam, uh, when they updated the last shade

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sheet ordinance in 2024, this is when this trust account should have been submitted to the state to, um, be created. So now, you know, as I clean up stuff, I'm trying to, uh, submit it now to get, uh, on the books. But yeah, it's a separate dedicated account. So

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then if they do pay the fee, which is currently $250 if they're fined, if they can't >> Well, that's that's Yeah, that's the problem. >> That's that's a fine and not a fee. Correct. So that's something we have to look at. >> Correct. Um but if they were to be charged the fine and pay it, yeah, it

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would go and then it's only to be used to do other tree maintenance around the town. So >> trees. Yeah. >> Thank you, George. Resolution requesting approval of items of revenue and appropriation NJSA4A-87

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NJUE police program. >> And this is just >> Yeah, that's you. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So, this is a little weird one. Um, a concerned citizen was just going through 2025 and making sure everything from last year was good. Came across a clerical error and just to be extra

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sure, sent it up to the state of New Jersey. Uh, the state came back and said, "Yeah, you did nothing wrong. There was no willful thing. There was no fraudulent any fraud going on. But they wanted us to just make sure that we corrected an error. Even though everything's already the the programming

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and the people receiving the money, getting the money, that's already went through. That's already okay. The director just wanted us to put this back on there for uh housekeeping purposes. So, >> Vice Mayor, are you saying that somebody in the city was not perfect and there was a small mistake made that has to be corrected?

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>> Correct. That's exactly what it was. >> Impossible. We're not perfect. >> All right. Why not? >> But there is nothing willful. There is nothing crossline at all. >> People make mistakes and uh we're here to fix them and uh >> that's being done >> and that's what we're doing. >> Absolutely. >> Great.

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>> That's why we're here. >> All right. Well, we have now reached a public comment portion of the meeting. Anyone who would like to address the commission, please go to the podium, state your name and address and your concerns. Please limit your comments to approximately five minutes. All right.

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Seeing nobody approaching the podium, I will close public comment portion of the meeting. And any comments of commissioners? Uh, vice I'm not vice mayor. Uh, Commissioner Taylor, I don't want to be the vice mayor. [laughter]

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Um, Tuesday's meeting might be a little long in the beginning. There's a couple presentations uh by the uh fire chief and myself. We're going to recognize some uh local heroes. So, it's um something else that I was made aware of.

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Also, um this weekend within the last couple days, uh there was a uh female that was missing out at Manatico. She went out for a walk and got a little lost. Um she was uh had a medical

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condition and she was a little pregnant and she got lost and upset and uh Sergeant Stnick, Coordinator Stadnik for the uh OEM as well as the police and fire um went out to search for her and

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they uh with the help of the dispatchers at the county communication center were able to pinpoint and u zero in on her location and uh flew the drone. She saw the drone, followed it, and they guided

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her to the officers who got her out of the woods. >> Incredible story. >> So, yeah, it's >> the uh we'll have a demonstration on the drone program in a in a future date. >> But, um yeah, we're he's already using it and um we've had a couple successes

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already. So, >> great. >> Yeah, >> it's great to see public safety people doing uh what they do best. Yeah, it's great. >> Thank you, Commissioner Taylor. >> Oh, and uh we swore in four new cadets Friday.

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>> Yes, I had the pleasure of meeting them. >> Yep. Met them yesterday and a really nice group. Really nice group. Some experience in that group. >> Yeah. Uh there was class two in there. There was an Air Force fellow in there. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um that'll take us close to being fully staffed.

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>> 84 I believe. >> One more. >> One more. And the only reason >> you want to come back out of retirement, >> the only reason why, >> but uh Yep. But one more. So, you know, and then next year's a whole new year and hopefully we raise the numbers even

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further. >> Okay. And we I don't I don't want to take your thunder, but we do have a special uh operations unit on the uh on the >> Yes, they started July 1st >> and they've been out there. >> That's one of the we all talked about in the very beginning, wasn't it? And uh

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Chief Hoffman assured me that as soon as he had enough manpower to do it, he would enact it. And he uh started the process and enacted it July 1. >> Does that does that task force have a name? >> Uh what do we call that? I I call it something different every time I mention

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it. >> It is the >> special crimes unit. >> No crimes. >> Nope. They've changed the name. Uh the initials are pit um police We'll get it for Tuesday. >> Police investigative team, something

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like that. But yeah, they they've changed the name. It used to be the community policing unit. Yes. >> Um but they they've changed the acron acronym for it. So, >> and I think I know most of the people on that and there's some go-getters there that are going to really go out there and be proactively um helping people out.

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>> Yes. The the officers that are on that team are uh were handpicked, you know, and they were they are go-getters. they are, you know, they were actually officers that stepped and said, "I want to do this. I, you know, I want this when it comes out." And, you know, they

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worked hard to to get it. And we have some and, you know, we have an experienced sergeant and we have, you know, uh, three guys that are, you know, >> couple been on years, couple years, and, you know, all the way down to, you know,

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and yeah, it's it's working out well so far. some of the best news that's going on over there is that we're able to actually get staffed enough to I I I remember last time we had these was probably seven or eight years ago and I trained uh a bunch of them in in defensive tactics and uh it was always a

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shame when I thought they disbanded that unit and uh because they talked to me every time I saw them two days a week they would tell me what they're doing what and I thought it was great work that they were out there proactively >> you know protecting the community the way that they do and uh it's it's a great thing that I think we all talked

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about during the campaign and uh not to take your time, but uh that's that's great. Great. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> Yep. Thank you, >> Commissioner. >> Yeah. Really nothing. I just want to thank Mrs. Davis for her input because we opened a Pandora's box with this sign

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ordinance. It's >> kind of like when it it was very confusing. It was so outdated and I can understand why it wasn't completed back >> four years four or five years ago. So, thank you. Thank you. >> Yeah. what was put out there four or five years ago was just a little too broad, >> right?

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>> It just let basically they give them the Oprah. Everybody gets a sign. Yeah. >> So, yeah. >> So, but thank you. Thank you. We'll get it. We'll get there. We'll get there. >> Thank you, Commissioner Cosman. Vice Mayor K. >> Uh yeah. Once again, uh and I'm sure Tamar speaks on 100% of the people in

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the audience today. Um so, we [laughter] do appreciate that. And uh >> but yeah, yeah, nothing at this time. >> All right, Vice Mayor, thank you. I don't really have anything. I'll save my uh reports and comments for the uh the Tuesday meeting. Thank you for your

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comments on that. Please put it into an email this weekend. Don't wait till like Tuesday night. Can't do anything Tuesday night. But if you can do something for me by tomorrow night, I can get it I can or today. I can talk I can talk to today. [laughter] Get it to me today to

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Mayor David. uh chairman of the zoning board. Could could you please get that back to me today? Um uh but uh I'll be able to talk to our our planner and our uh planning attorney and we can make those minor changes to we don't want there to be com, you know, when somebody comes to it, you know, for approval for

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something and it's unclear. Um then she goes, well, I'm not sure. It's got to go to zoning board. And we're trying to avoid that. We're trying to make it very clear where when somebody comes, I want to put this sign up. It's this big. I want to put it here. she should be able to clearly look at that and say these are the rules. This is how it applies.

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It's either a yes or a no and no confusion. So, thank you for your clarification. You've been doing this a long time. So, appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> And with that, can I get a motion to adjourn this meeting? >> Like to make a motion. I'll second it. >> And roll call, please. >> Commissioner Taylor, >> yes.

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>> Vice Mayor Cot, >> yes. >> Commissioner Kabun, >> yes. Yes. Mayor Dixon. >> Yes.