All the parks commission order a motion to the meeting minutes for 1826 and then 56. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. All those in favor?
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. No one in the room for public comment. And I don't see anyone on Zoom. So, we'll move on to Ty Bon uh with an update with our recreational master
plan. So, we'll turn it over to you guys, Ally and Brian. Can you hear us? I think >> we can. This is a new viewer. Are we in a new room? >> Oh, we have the owl up this time, which is a lot better. >> Okay. >> See each one of you?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm not connected to my laptop, so I think that's the difference. >> Yeah. >> Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Rob. Um, I think we met with Rob about a week ago now, just to give him an update on where we are.
We've closed the survey, Ali. We closed the survey I think probably Wednesday or Thursday of last week and so Ally I think had some time this week to maybe run some quick analysis on it to give you a kind of a quick summary of where we ended up on
some things. So we'll we'll touch base on that and kind of get the board's reaction. Um the other thing that we were working on is obviously talking to all the coaching groups. Um we still have a few outstanding liar outliers that we're haven't been able to talk to. I don't, you know, at some point I think
we'll probably just say we've gotten a good cross-section sample, but I think we'll make one last um one last try. I've sent Rob an email with who we're missing, but just for summary, it's the Trinity Milton GA football, Milton youth field hockey,
and Milton Babe Ruth baseball. Um, if we had emails, we've reached out via email. I think someone helped me the other day get an email for field hockey. So, we've just reached out to them via email. >> Yeah, I sent an email I think a couple weeks ago.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you for doing that. Um, and we just, you know, we've we've called all those folks at the numbers we have. I still think we have the wrong phone number for Milton G football for Rory. Um, but I think that's the one we have and we've reached out to Rory via email
and via phone. So, if anybody sees Rory in the community, by all means, feel free to give him my cell number uh or my office number. >> I I did I talked to him. He's >> thinking about getting back to him. But, um >> he's in island right now to be honest
with you till March 10th. So, I won't get on him right after that. But >> why don't I put something in my date in the calendar for the 12th and just give him a call, give him a day or two to get back. >> He knows about it. I don't know why he hasn't gone bowler. >> Kevin, you could be the
big baseball guy. I mean, >> that's the conversation we had. Kevin, you know, c can you answer these questions on behalf of Milton baseball? >> They're not hard. I think you if you know enough to about the league probably >> why don't I set up a time with you for
maybe later this week and we'll just talk through it and if you can't answer something, we'll see if we can work around it. No, >> I'll be with you. Okay. Great. >> Great. Okay. Um, so those are the three. Let's talk about survey responses next and then I think Rob wanted to talk
about schedule and and trying to put together where we're headed and maybe a public meeting. >> Yeah. >> So Ally, you want to start with what you've been able to uncover about the survey findings so far? >> I'm gonna just send a request to share my screen.
Don't know who that will go to. I think he's just press in the middle of the screen. >> Oh, there she is. I'm looking. >> There you go. >> I guess while we're doing this, the one thing I don't think I've shared with the group that I did share, I believe I
shared only with Rob. Um the things we're finding from our conversations is generally that the uh wreck user groups are as you would have predicted short on field space. Um almost everyone I've
talked to would love an extra space to play. And when asking them on how that's affecting their their groups, for everyone that I've talked to, whether it be soccer or baseball, what they're doing is they're limiting the number of practices and they're
basically only playing games and they're their concern as a recreational developer is that it's limiting it's limiting interest in the programs because kids aren't developing skills as fast as they're um as their peers. And
so if they they would love the ability to be able to practice more, but being able to practice more, the limiting factor is field space. And obviously there's a premium on games. So the games get the the games get the priority. And so maybe instead of practicing two times
a week, they're only practicing once a week. Or some leagues don't even have the ability to practice once the games start getting played. And so they're just playing games. And um so that's uh you know that was kind of the most interesting piece and seems to be the
most consistent correlation between all the leagues is that practice is being limited. Um and they're fearful that that's that's why they're losing kids as they move up through development. Any questions about that? >> I I think maybe that's with the younger
kids like Babu for example. We've we've never practiced. Kids are too busy. >> They're playing playing a club team or they're playing for the high school team baseball. >> I would agree, Kevin. >> Nobody practices. We haven't practiced in
>> maybe the beginning of the year to get the team together, but once the season starts, it practice doesn't exist. Number one, and no fields is another thing because the high school system and >> that's, you know, that's a good point. It is for the younger kids, the older
kids. >> But I think part of that is a symptom of not having the ability to practice, right? Like >> the reason you've gone to travel groups or club groups is because there was more interactive and so those kids have found a way to, you know, they're filling
their practice somewhere else. Um, but it's still a demand within the community. So, um, I would agree that the majority of the folks were talking about the younger the younger age groups. >> Go ahead, Ally. Sorry for the sidetrack. I just >> Oh, no.
>> realized I hadn't put in a summary to that yet. >> That's okay. Um, so for the survey, um, we had, I believe, about 1,300 responses.
Um overall the general themes received were very positive feedback. So um between the survey responses themselves to um the questions we developed and just open-ended answers, there's really a big appreciation for having open
spaces, um the variety of field uses across the town. people feel like it's very accessible and that they can easily get to fields and parks near where they live. Um big appreciation for safety and
for opportunities for kids um uh to use the park spaces and and meet up with the community members. um areas for improvements that seem to come up the most are um general field condition
improvements and a need for drainage improvements. Um and I can go through, let me share my screen, each of the questions if we have the time to do so to show you sort of what the SurveyMonkey results look like. Um I
know we've seen this various weeks where we've presented this but um but this is the final breakdown. So question one um this is the question where we asked respondents to identify themselves. Um the majority were parent parents or
guardians of youth athletes. Um that was 80% and we said select all that apply. So that is why there will be overlap and the percentages probably won't make sense. Um 62% um are residents who use parks and
fields for recreation. So people that are walking their dogs, um doing hikes with friends, pickle ball courts, all of those different types of things. Um so over a thousand parents or guardians
responded here. Um next highest was again those residents who use parks and fields for recreation. So that's generally um the groups with majority of responses here. Um this was the open-ended box for
people who wanted to further identify themselves. Um some grandparents, residents, kind of just replicating the answers previously. We have some retired folks who responded. Um,
different community members of different community groups, senior citizens, >> okay, >> question two, what age group do you belong to? >> This tracks with the respondents for um
the answers of question one. So, majority was between ages 35 to 54. Skip through that. Um, parents that responded on behalf of their children ranged from ages five,
kids age 5 to 17, that was the oldest reported. >> Sorry, one second. Question three, which sports, organizations, or teams are you affiliated with? Um, the highest group is soccer at 57%.
Um, baseball was second highest and basketball pretty close to that, third highest. And again, this was a select all that apply question. So there is a lot of overlap here. Um the Gaelic football team, one
of the lower um groups of respondents. >> Does the basketball result surprise the recreation commission that 38% of the people were playing basketball >> that seems high to me based on the number of basketball courts that I think I saw in the town and maybe I need to
take a better note about where they were. Um, but that's a significant amount of people that are playing basketball >> and indoors. >> Indoors. >> At least for us, >> it's indoors.
>> Yeah, I think because we didn't specify that is probably something that could have happened that people were responding for indoor court use. >> I know you have the ones at Middleg Guile. >> I'm trying to think >> Andrews is the only other one I can
think of though. Is there any other pocket parts that I forgot? >> There will be a new one that that's getting redone right out here by town hall. >> Okay. >> Um >> I don't know when that's slated to go, but maybe it's in this funding room.
>> Yes. >> So, um part two of I believe that's question three. My eyes are bad. um is what possive um uses and other activities people identified. So it was a lot of dog walking, hiking.
Um Cunningham Park came up quite a bit as one of the favorite parks throughout the survey. Um also the accessibility to playgrounds came up quite a bit as a positive feedback point. Um
>> maybe are in there. So definitely a variety, but a lot of walking. >> Did they include that? >> What was the question? >> Did we include Colton's Pond in the uh list of all the parks? Like was that
Yeah. So yeah, so they would include swimming too. So in that >> so again pretty big range. >> Yeah, >> see it was pretty typical. Um >> I saw skateboarding in there which is
one of the ones that are usually gets put into these um these other categories. Is there any offering for skateboards for skateboarders? >> No. >> Okay.
>> Let's see disc golf as well. Do you guys have any um disc golf course? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Moving on. Uh question four. What recreational activities do you enjoy? Again, select all that fly. Walking trails that tracks with what we've seen
previously. Again, playgrounds um has had a positive response. Um and just sports. Those are the three highest. Other categories we talked about were biking, picnic areas, and community gathering spaces, which is right down
the middle. Um, there were a lot of comments in the open-ended responses that people really enjoyed group fitness classes and outdoor gathering areas. So, that's um, one interesting
response item that we got. >> Can we stop there for a second, Ali? I've got a follow-up question. Yeah. >> One of the other conversations that I've had with a number of the rec director leaders is in regards to is in regards to dog walking being a
problem on the fields. Um obviously not the walking of the dog, but what's left behind by walking of the dogs. Um depending on which park they're playing at. And I my question is other than like the blue hills or the more passive
recreation area for H Hotton Spawn, is there like a dedicated space for people to walk dogs at other than the parks? >> I mean, a lot of people go to Cunningham Park like in the in the back of the woods and like Okay. >> literally that's where a lot of folks go.
>> I think it's whatever park is closest to where you live too. >> If you're like walking distance, right? >> Yeah. Exactly. And and Kevin, have we >> I remember seeing them in some places. I don't I guess I didn't take a good note if they were in all the places.
>> Do we have like dog baggy situations at each one of the parks? >> No, we do not. >> Okay. Just trying to see how think about how we could obviously you've got two different user groups there with two different ideas of what park space
should be used for. And so um trying to >> they tried that years ago. Remember in day periosis years >> and they let them on fire. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They left the baggie stations on fire. >> Yep. >> Oh my goodness. Okay.
>> You can't plan for everything. >> Sorry, Ally. Keep going. >> No, that's okay. each park had a designated area for dogs. Would that >> That's the other thing I'm thinking about. Like, can you you you can put up all the no dog walking signs you want, but if you don't give them a place to
walk, they're going to ignore it. So, like, if you gave them a dedicated space that was for them to >> walk the dogs, maybe you can alleviate some of that. >> Maybe. Um,
one this comment uh came up a couple of times that um people really like Andrew Park, but um have challenges parking which >> and >> I know I think I went to that park taking photos a long time ago and that's
a pretty small lot if I'm remembering right. >> Um I don't know if people park in that residential neighborhood over there. >> Yeah. Um, again, similar. These are just a variety of responses. >> I like to see the number like there's
botchi in there. >> A ton of pickle ball requests. >> Yeah, there's a request for fence dog park. >> Yep. >> As a as a part of this middle of like the park around here, Ryan,
they're going to be putting in a botchi court as well as that basketball court. And it's a bot. Yeah, I think I remember you tell me that >> right here. So, I hope it's really good. >> Yeah, again I mentioned earlier that
people really liked the outdoor gym um groups or just outdoor gatherings related to exercise. So, that came up. I highlighted this one for concerts. I'm not sure um how the parks if they are utilized for other types of outdoor
gatherings, but I just highlighted that one for local music. Um >> can we go back up >> right there, Ally? This um this comment from Peggy number 36. She's asking for a track and track
program for kids starting at 10. I I imagine she wants that for like supplementing the track program for the high school. Does the high school ever do any programs like that, Kevin, that you're aware of where they invite you younger youth groups to the facility ahead of time?
>> Not that I know, but we run a track program in the summer. >> Okay. And >> what age group is that for? >> I think 5 to 12. >> 5 to 12. >> Awesome. And do you um
do you have like a modified and a JV track team or is it only a varsity track team? >> High school. >> Oh, they have they have >> both. >> Both. Yeah. >> Huge huge program. >> Okay. So basically you are covering that
user group at this point. >> Yeah. >> In the high school level. >> And we do have concerts here. >> Yeah. Right. where like the communication of what is available >> to me seems more the issue because both
of these things are offered but the resident >> right >> and and that can be as simple as beefing up like the web page of all the recreational programs that are in the community right to like here's who you contact for that program or you know
whatever maybe not everybody contact Kevin at once and Kevin puts you in contact with them but um yeah that could help alleviate some of these things where we think we're missing programs. So, >> go ahead. >> We have a full summary um booklet that
is on the website on our page >> that lists for the entire year all of our programs and when to look for them and where. >> Someone wants us to use field non sports. Yeah, this is pretty
>> um lots of skating, bird watching, rowing. >> We do have last name. >> Okay, fine. Which parks um do you or your organization use most frequently? Um,
so the highest uh was Cunningham. Um, second highest I believe was Kelly Field >> and then Andrews was third highest. Um, >> does Cunningham being the highest surprise anyone?
>> No, surprise is not. >> It's because I think we separated it out so much. I bet it would probably be the highest if we did it separately all those together, >> right? You end up >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's correct.
>> I mean, Cunningham probably has the most diversity of things because >> it has stuff, right? It has people that's where people walk their dogs. There's a playground. There's the community pool.
They had the the outdoor skating in the winter time there. >> Look at your reliance on Curry College though. I would imagine that's I'm sorry, not Curry College, Milton Academy. >> Mhm. Yeah, >> that that's
>> and field hockey. The field uses >> uh can we if we There's the guy also. Can you go down to geo field 199? Yeah, if you add those up, you're going to get in up pretty high.
>> Okay. >> Oh, here. >> What are the parts that we missed out of curiosity? So, it was the other category. You were headed towards the alley. Um I that was an open response box for
folks to respond to. So here we're >> school they're like schools >> Hutchinson Field Point 32 which we've known about bike trail waterfront for rowing Milton Cemetery
>> green space at Clapping Walnut Street. Keep scrolling down Ally. A lot of these you either can't do recreation or they're private, >> right? >> Walking the cemetery
don't know that, >> right? >> What is a hockey ring by VCR? >> Milton Warf Tucker Playground 32 a bunch of times. Pope spawned. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean 32's got to be for soccer, but they no longer use that and that's
that's private and it's in canon. >> That's one of the biggest >> not sure what they indoor bike path glover foul metal >> boat that's under conservation. Is there more, Ally? I don't know how
many responses we had there. 50. >> Nope, that's it. >> Okay. >> Okay. Next. These are the beefier questions. What are the primary reasons you use the parks most often? That was linked, I believe, to the prior question. Um, so Andrews Park,
Cunningham, Milton Academy, and Kelly had highest responses. Um, so along this is a little hard to read, but along the top are the categories people responded to. So, as you could
see right away, Andrews, Flatly, Mary C. um, uh, that was related to leagues that are able to use those facilities. Um, and I guess general programming. Um, this category is proximity and
convenience. So Shields and Cunningham had the highest responses there. Uh this last category for H Hotton ponds is not applicable. So we just gave people an option >> not reply >> feedback.
Um so generally it was between proximity and convenience and um availability of league uh programming or not applicable were the three um highest categories.
So for all of the school fields, this again league uh coordination seemed to be the highest categories down the right side. have to figure out how to put that in a graphic that can
help better to understand like what the >> what is the main points we want to take out of that because obviously that's a difficult way to review that in my opinion that's a difficult way to review that the things I think we're going to be able to pull or at least I hope we're
able to pull are like what are the parks that have the best location versus the least favorable locations. Um I'm curious to tell about scheduling availability, which ones think that there's a hard time getting on it and then obviously what other amenities that
can be provided. But let let us dig into that one a little bit more and maybe some of these responses will help us that we'll scroll through quickly below. >> Um if you list additional other perks, please describe the primary reasons to use them.
So, >> I don't know if it's just one user, but I'm surprised they see the Milton Cemetery keep popping up. >> Bike there. >> Yeah. So well it's a very pretty much
over the past I don't think we looked at the park at Clappen Walnut and that's the second time I've seen that corner come up. Is that a town owned park? Is that a town on space? >> That's the one we'll be.
>> That's the same one you're redoing. >> Yes. >> Got it. Okay. Sorry. >> Yeah. needs to be turf. I'll tell you the other thing I've I've heard from basically everyone is if you ever do
turf lower guile, good luck with scheduling it because everybody is climbing to get on that space. So, >> you're going to have to beat people back with a >> something.
Say it again. >> It's not a bad problem to have. >> Yeah. >> No, it's a great problem to have. It's a great problem to have, but I internally I'm laughing because each user group I talked to was like, "As soon as Lower Guy is done, we're going to get down there and that's our place that we'll
have." And I was like, "Uh, I think you all have the same idea." >> Yeah. Maybe by 2030 experience which parks are in best condition for play. Cunningham
was the Oh, sorry. Well, Melton Academy >> and some of these I'm sure are not necessarily applicable. I don't I haven't facilities but um >> yeah. Wow. Interesting that only like patelli is at 23%. >> Yeah.
>> It's brand new. >> Was just baseball. That's all I put on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. John F. >> Uh, based on the fields you selected, indicate what conditions are beneficial to you as a user. A lot of turf fields
came up. Um, below, I'm not sure what question number it is, but when we asked if people would be in favor of turf, the majority was yes. Um, and it was also yes for adding more fields. Um >> what was the split on the turf or is
that that's a question that's >> it's coming. Yeah. >> Yeah. That will come. Um >> a lot of these while they don't say it are basically drainage related. >> Yeah.
Some people do pre Some people don't like anything. Addition of bathroom accommodations and waterfall stations. Yeah, a lot of drainage in this improvements to parking,
walking tracks, natural grass. Definitely a variety. Some people think things are great and others have suggestions. >> Lot of mud uh coming up. >> Indoor pickle ball.
>> That's one of the suggestions. >> Pickle balls everywhere. >> I think does the council on aging do well? They do. They turn their like >> Yeah, I think so. I'm going to guess that's for seniors running
>> more well drained there to have natural rivers. >> Kevin, have you guys ever done like a accessibility review for your parks? >> Um, not to my knowledge. No. >> Okay.
I only saw one comment about it. I just was curious if we >> I know when we did all the playgrounds over, we had to be all ADA compliant. So that was five playgrounds that were all >> signed off on. >> Okay.
It's it's now can you get from the parking spot to the playground and what about from the parking spot to the bathroom or whatever other amenities might be at the park that um you would want accessibility to but it's I'm seeing it more as well as ADA compliance. Many in Milton are not ADA
compliant >> roads better >> even in full grass which is talking about dry and well-kept grass no potholes dry some more about drainage. Yeah,
skip through. This one had quite a lot of >> a lot of comments to review there. >> Um, >> yeah, >> overall quality of park maintenance across all of the facilities. Um, pretty good rating. This question is a
little difficult because it's so vague, but not horror is not the majority. So, that's good. Uh, people got that three stars out of four. um was best rating, but the average was right down the middle. >> Yeah. And Kevin, I've seen that that
response go way differently than that. And so I wouldn't I hope that doesn't alarm you as fair, good, or excellent. I think a lot of people when they think about town recreation parks, think about parks that are or think about spaces that are private and then compare town
parks to those. And obviously there's just different dollars there for a private industry versus recreation. The fact that only >> less than 15% of your population thinks the parks are in poor condition is is not a bad result here. Um we're just
trying to range where people think on the parks. And so I I would think, you know, I think when we started this conversation or maybe during the interview process, we always talked about having like an A field, a B field, and a C field. than like part, you know, town parks typically reside somewhere in that C to B range, which is what we're
seeing here. Um, so I I wouldn't let that alarm you. >> Uh, which park could benefit most from maintenance or improvement? Select all that apply. >> Flat was up there. Kelly was up there.
Lower Guile was 34%. But again, these are it was select all that apply. So, >> sure. Any surprises there, guys? >> I mean, obviously the thing that's nice there is Andrews and Kelly's Kelly
already provides us the greatest ability to like reorganize or expand on facilities. So seeing that people want improvements there kind of jives with that. >> These were open-ended responses for additional improvements. Um, which I
don't think just come through quickly. There's only two pages where >> Yeah, just scroll through. >> Lots of specific cracks in certain tennis courts. >> Manning Community Park is not one I've
heard before. >> The oldies. >> Can you guys say that again? Sorry, >> it's it's the overpass in East Milton Square. >> Uh, okay. >> I don't even know who owns it. The
state, I think, >> um, what? >> Yeah, I don't know. Or >> somebody was struggling. >> Struggling. What types of maintenance or improvements do you think would have um the most impact on park quality? I'm
just skip down. This is a similarly formatted question. Andrew is um they requested restroom and parking improvements. Lately, um improved turf and Enfield's care,
restroom parking at Mary C. Pierce turf care. H Hotton Hotton's uh grouped in there field turf care. >> Yeah.
>> And these are all not applicables but the highest uh >> looks like turf care on Gio. >> This blue is drainage here. So, drainage at geo
um or turf care >> and and Kevin, I'm sorry. I know we started this conversation, but it came up a bunch with the softball leagues. Is there any plan to approve the drainage coming off the parking lot on the Geo Field currently, >> or is that something we should note in
our plan? >> Yeah. You know, comes down the hillside. >> Yeah. >> To the back of those. It's going to improve with this project that with the cage because we're going to be putting drench behind that wall, right? >> Yes. >> So, I think it's going to it will improve.
>> We we have a project slated to go soon. >> Yep. I remember that. >> Um, here's more open-ended answers. concerns with turf fields overuse
at Flatly then. Yeah, I think that the basketball um response that we received in the beginning probably related to indoor courts and team use team practices from ruining playing
fields. That comment's like, "Don't practice." Okay, keep going. It's too many to walk me from other sports than baseball and softball, soccer field and tennis or basketball court. Water pooling or maintenance of towns.
limited green spaces. >> Yeah, this one had uh several pages worth so we don't have to >> Yeah, we don't have to go through over them. What our goal here, guys, is we're going to put these into like a summary bullet point and get get these comments down to five major bullet points for
each one of these ones that have provided feedback. Um, obviously, you know, we'll attach this in the report as like a well, we'll ask you if you want us to attach this in the report or if you think you wanted to keep it removed from the report so that it stays a little bit more anonymous cuz I think
some people have their names in there. We could always white out names, but >> um anyway, you know, I think our idea would be that not to really rely on this report or the visuals from this report, but to simplify and put something in our report from this survey. >> Mhm.
>> Yeah. sense. >> Yeah. >> I was going to ask you, um, Ryan, obviously that's like the next step. I think I think there's a lot of useful information here, but there's a ton. So, maybe you guys can share it with us, like we can we can review it on our own
time so we have it. I wouldn't put it in the report personally because I think it's it's a lot of information to put out there. And maybe, you know, at the end of this, you have 20 pages or whatever, right? Whatever. If it's 20 questions, one page a question that you
summarize it. Um, and then that's what I'm thinking. Like if we have our community meeting, that's what you would present. Is that kind of what you're thinking? It's like, hey, here's here's 20 here's the here's some of the like the major findings with some graphics and then maybe there's a few bullet
points that you pull up. Um I think it's yeah we the way I saw that community meeting going which is what we're to talk about next is probably I forget the final number of questions myself >> but it's >> 16 slides >> and that slide would have a graphic to
what the results were and a bullet points on the other side of the major >> uh points out of it and then those slides would end up as an attachment to the report and then there would be a section of the report just talking about uh you what are the findings and pointing
towards the attachment. Um >> yeah, what's what's the next like this is all the the research here's what it's led us to with some recommendations and then um I do think it would be great to have like Q&A you know so that like yes some of the time is spent with your
report but then leaving it open for some feedback and community you know s similar to what we had the last time. Understood. One of the ways to improve is synthetic turf. And so you've got 72%
>> somewhat to strongly in favor. >> 70%. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Does that surprise you guys or is that what you thought it would be? >> Good to see it's validating. I mean, um, >> yeah, >> I got I mean, it's also probably the
amount of people that respond or the type of people that responded, >> too, but >> but you know, Rob, I I can appreciate that that's like we understand who who responded, but everyone had an opportunity to respond. So, like
>> it wasn't like it was only one, you know, we only sent it to the rec groups. It was out publicly for everybody to respond to. And of the people that cared enough to respond, um, you know, you got 70% >> in favor of it. So the other people didn't care enough to respond direct.
You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> No, I think it's good and and that's the kind of information we want to get. >> Yeah, this was expected. Um, do you think the town would benefit from
additional recreation recreational facilities? Rectangular fields was the highest requested um type of >> field. I I'm interested in the fact of the number of pickle ball court >> because I I usually think of that user
group as >> older and maybe not responding to surveys, but the fact that you got 16 and a half% wanting more pickle ball courts. >> Um he's got an opportunity then it's where
pickle ball has shown up so much in this entire thing. It's amazing to me. It's >> Yeah, it's it's >> I hope it's not a fad. >> I I can't be now. We built too many of them. It's got to stay. >> When I saw when I started on Park and Wreck eight years ago,
I think my first or second meeting, someone came in to talk about pickle ball and I felt embarrassed sitting there. I was afraid to say anything because I had no idea. >> What the hell is pickle ball? >> Absolutely no idea what they were talking about. >> Yeah. >> Absolutely no idea. I'm like, "What is pickle? What are they saying?" Yeah.
>> What is this? >> Yeah. >> That was just eight years ago. Now it's >> Yeah, >> it's really taken off. >> Really take off. >> We'll be in the Olympics. We'll see. >> Yeah. >> I would say that these comments continue to talk about basketball courts. And the
way it's worded, it makes me think exterior basketball courts, but we'll we'll dig further into that. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's the last. Is there not a splash pad at uh Cunningham? >> No, we don't have any. No. >> Okay.
>> There's some that are close in Boston, but >> And Dog Park continues to I don't know what he want what they want for golf. But there's not there's not many municipal courts. >> I mean, we have one now 10 minutes away
at >> Yeah. We do utilize >> we can't put fields in that. >> Yeah, >> um yeah, this is the last question. >> Um >> there is a lot there. Not enough.
>> Yeah. >> So, we'll we'll put together the slide deck. I think the next thing as we were talking with Rob about is that we we need to put that slide deck together and present to the public the findings because right now obviously we've all been able to scan through this and we have an idea. We've been kind of checking in along the way at those
findings and so we have an idea of what's coming out of it but our our next meeting should be a publicly facing meeting with uh with that slide deck of the summary findings um so that they understand what
the results are. Um, and then to talk to them about our next steps. Um, I don't know if the board board has an idea of when they would want to do that. >> I would like to go ahead >> try to my schedule over the next few
months, Ryan, is really hectic. So, that's why I found my computer today. I think I just wanted to ask you cuz my April is really tight. I'm gone for like half April. I'll be in Singapore. Um, so
over the next month though, March, I'm wondering if we can look at uh sometime in March to do the community meeting and maybe it's the third or fourth week or something. >> Well, I'm wondering, Ryan, do do you think you'll be able to
present or as a board, do we want to present this to town meeting? Do you think town meeting would give us that opportunity to present >> this? And if you if we were going to present a town meeting, couldn't we? I mean, we're in a huge auditorium. Can't we say if you want to see the results
from the surveys? >> I mean, I'd like to do both. >> When is town meeting again? >> May. >> So, so what I spoke to Ryan about was doing like the town meeting, but I think we need to do one separate for this community so that we could have feedback
and stuff. Not really a presentation. It's really just a presentation. So I imagine like Ryan that's only probably going to be just a presentation on it. Maybe it's 20 minutes, 20 to 30 minutes and we present it to town meeting members. I think that's a whole another separate meeting. This first one I think
is the community meeting which we look to you guys to do it. So maybe it's like later this month. I'm thinking March at some point and obviously you need some time to like put it together and you guys tell me um if we if we can make it happen. Um >> we can make March happen like do we want
to do the week of the 16th to uh why don't we do sorry >> it would be either like the 23rd or the 27th like that last week or the week >> I think you got to do it later in March >> then let's do that let's do that that week's fine. I was I was trying to make
it as early as possible, but I realized that only gives me a week to put that slide deck together. So, if we want to do it the week of the 23rd through the 27th, and you guys tell me what date works for you, >> we'll come out and do that presentation.
>> Can we pick a date potentially? I'm just wondering like can you >> I would prefer not the Friday. >> Yeah. No, no. We wouldn't do Monday or maybe a Wednesday. 24. >> You guys tell me. I mean, I can make
anything work. Obviously wouldn't do a Friday. >> 24th. Maybe it's a Tuesday. >> 24. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm totally free Monday through Wednesday. >> The 24th works for me.
>> So, let's go ahead and and um and put that down for the the community meeting. And what time? 7. 10 p.m. >> Yeah. And we can try to get the same room. >> Mhm.
>> Um and then town meeting is is May. Um I believe it's Wednesday. Hold on. Let me just >> It is Wednesday. >> Yeah, it's May 6.
It's Wednesday. >> That I already have in my calendar. >> Okay. So that one it's May 6th and so I think it would be a similar like if you're doing one slide deck we just take that and then we present it at town meeting right um and then I did have one
other meeting that I think we should do and I think it should be a Zoom meeting for the sports groups in town um to address that. So, I think
we could potentially do that one >> in April. >> In April is what I'm thinking. And maybe it's I have like a really tight window between like the I'm thinking like the 15th 16th.
That would probably be the only window like I have in April. >> So, let's do it then. Yeah, we can make that work. >> No, it's the weekend. It's the week before school vacation. That's why. >> Yeah. >> I'm gone for 2 weeks, I'm back for like a few days, then I have school, then we
have school vacation, and then I'm in my >> Okay. >> So, does that work for you? I I think if we can schedule, which day works better, April uh April 15th or 16th? >> Honestly, they're about the same with me. I have a couple of meetings each of
those days, but all of them are like at this point still movable. Like if I if you know you've picked a time that you found worked for you, I could work around that. >> Well, and then the next the next thing is going to be what our next what our meetings will be. I would think will be the same time. Maybe we do it the 15th
and then we have our meeting on the 16th. That helps. I like that helps wrap up like So, let's do the 15th and maybe we do the same thing 700 p.m. um >> Zoom call with those guys.
>> Zoom call. Yeah, I think we'll >> is the Zoom call. >> The 15th is the Zoom. And then we we would meet prior to that, Rob, as a we meet after. Okay.
I know it's a lot, but I think then I think we check our box for >> going to town meeting. >> Yeah. And going to town meeting and getting getting things in. >> Does that work for you, Ted? >> The meeting on the 15th and then 16th this one. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. 16th would be, you know, at 7 a.m. >> 7:30. >> And the 15th would be a Zoom meeting. >> Yeah. So, I think that will have to be a public meeting as well, Ryan. But we can just have like we would set it up the
same way Bonnie will advertise or whatever, but it would just be we would speak to just the sports people. It's not like, you know, we won't have public comment or anything. >> Okay. >> All right. Does that work?
>> Works for me. Sounds like we got a plan to move forward. >> Get it in. Get it done. >> All right. Great. >> Thank you guys. Anything else we need to cover? I think we're good. >> I think we're good. >> All right. Appreciate all the the work
and the feedback and all that. Looks like we're on good track to finish up. All right. >> Thanks, guys. Have a good morning, guys. Bye. >> Right. So remind me on flatly. I know we don't own flatly, but do we maintain?
>> We do own. >> Oh, we do own there's like there's like the >> which >> Yeah. >> And what's the deed on it? >> It's a good question. >> It's been looked at a few times. >> And it's a question of whether it's really the select board or us, but it's
us. >> Okay. that >> it's like a 100year agreement with flatly that we can use it do what >> basically what we want that >> but that but that's the question with anything that we want
>> it is a question it is a question and I think it is a selectable Kevin right that actually technically >> the deed is too >> that's the million dollar question >> issue came up I think >> it was up there and then someone said there was claws and the
>> right >> lease that you couldn't put turf up there, you couldn't put lights up there. >> Okay. >> So, that's where >> Yeah. >> But is that >> So, who who who can either change the date or is there someone is it is it
>> I think we need someone to look at. >> Yeah. Black's dead. I mean, the guy originally >> is there like a trust that now oversees that >> place has been sold. >> It's just three or four time. I don't know. I don't know.
>> I wonder if we had like town council if we can and get it. >> Yeah. >> Get it. >> Right. >> It's a funny space. It's a >> awkward size, awkward shape. It's >> They did think they could get Tucson two
rectangle fields up there, which is >> really really tight. >> Big ones. Yeah. I think you can't do like you could do one big one. Maybe that's you can't do two. >> I think they thought they could do two. There was there was a a soccer company
and organization private >> that wanted to commanding >> give us the space, give them the space and they were going to turf it the entire thing and allow us to use, you know, give give us the >> and then they were going to use it >> and then they would like rent for
>> but they wanted lights, they wanted everything. M >> and they were going to pay for it all. >> Yep. Everything. >> Jamie has Milton Soccer has a plan to do it. They also have the funding. I think they need to >> Eastern Bank would work. >> I think it's a
>> I think that's where it came down to when it came down to the actual banking and how it was written because of the long and legal. That's when the thing came up too that we don't even have the authority to actually >> there was a gray area there and there needed to be some more clarification on
the legal end of it. Yeah, I think we should keep that conversation going, but >> yeah, >> I think it's more of a legal >> legal aspect, but asking for >> So, um, all right.
Anything more on this? And we're It looks like we're set now with meetings and we got a plan to move forward. >> All right. Good. Our the the project that's always on here, the lower turf, you saw the letters that went by. I mean,
>> so I I obviously reached out to to uh Senator Driscoll and Representative Wells. They both wrote us back. Um and you guys were on that information. So since
>> the only way Well, yeah, it's still in the way to process, but it seems like something bad, but we'll see when that when that happened. um CPC project. So, Geo Field, the project that we were just speaking about
with the steps and the cage. Um I got a I got an email from from Bill who's who's the landscape architect on that. Now, the CPC has recommended that project to go for funding. Um and the funding wouldn't be
there till July. Some of that will be design work. And so one question is can he go ahead and and start the design on that right so that he can >> that we could start work on that project >> we can move it along quicker instead of
starting in July and I guess the question is is like when >> when we would be able to start it right if if we were able to do it I think it would probably be August if we could do it that way. >> Yeah. So you have a window when
some of all men's >> Yeah. >> and then men's softball, which that league's growing, as Ted can attest to. Um they they start right after Labor Day, but >> can they can can they play?
>> Can you guys play somewhere else for one season? >> No, I'm My question is can they play while it's under construction? It's out of it's out of the area. It's not in the field. >> Maybe. >> I don't see a reason why they couldn't play. >> Um because it's it's
>> Yeah, >> it's 10 feet off a foul line. >> Yeah, sure. So, >> couldn't play somewhere else. >> No, because you need lights. They play >> Oh, the lights. Yeah. >> Okay. >> But you probably could Well, we would have to talk to Well, what's the uh
>> I don't really need both. Yeah, both of them. We would have to talk with whoever would be doing it, right? I guess the other thing is of course we have to go out to bid and all that stuff. >> I was going to say remind me is it already been approved the funding?
>> It's not approved yet, right? So it's got to it'll be May. Okay. >> That like the whole project will be fun. I don't you know >> we haven't had any problems funding CPC projects. It's been recommended. So the question is though because then we have to go out to go to big and all that.
So my thought is right after the town meeting that the design work could start if he can wait to get paid a little bit and then get and then approve because we can't >> Yeah, >> we can't pay him and then get the money back from it doesn't work that way.
>> So >> yeah, well he also said that >> it was like 90 days or something. >> I think I think right after Tom it gets approved. >> Um May Maybe because it's not May till
whatever that is. It's a tight window, but we can see. >> Yeah. And we can put it out to bid because work can't start till after won't be able to start till August, right? >> So, we could put it out as long as the funding's there.
>> Long as they can do it and I'm sure. >> Yeah. I mean, it's going to be a big project is the thing. And I'm worried about how long it's going to take because they're gonna put new new stacks off that way. >> I can't have to have trucks all over that field.
>> But this is it's I don't represent men's softball at all. I just I'm a player. That's okay. >> Yeah. >> They're done in November. So, >> you know, I I wouldn't hold the project up because men's softball, but >> let's let's >> sure there's a lot of guys feel differently, but >> Yeah. Let's see first.
>> Yeah. CRS will be >> Yeah. And then and then kind of go from there. It is a big project. It's it's it'll be major construction, but it'll be up on the hill, but there will definitely be some pros and stuff like that. >> Yeah. We think so. All over the field. Yeah. Yeah. >> While we're on CPC, just a ton of
compliments on the Kelly Field dugouts. >> Okay. >> Um that have been coming around. So, I think that's great. Bonnie, on on the website, do we have listed out CPC like what's been funded for parks
through CPC. What projects are in the work? >> That's actually on the CBC page. >> CBC should we should also have something on >> CBC is supposed to have signs. >> Yeah. >> And we do have pictures of the signs at
the dugouts on our page. >> They're under snow right now, but I do have two signs down there. >> We we met on uh we met just this Monday. And so like the website is is really old. So one thing that I supposed to mention to this board is that
applications are open now. The the first round the eligibility application is open now and that will be done. I think they're due at the end of May. So I'm just putting the word out. If you guys know anybody or anything like put the word out. To be honest, last year we
although we had like schools and stuff that fund it, we only really fund it. But we only really funded that that um the geo project and then we pulled back on the acres because we're doing the study. So that's also probably something for us to think about. But maybe we
wait, you know, maybe we wait until we see what happens over the next two. >> So there were a couple comments about the tennis courts. Is it would that could that fall under CPC is is having those redone? >> Yeah, any of this could fall under under
that. So even more of the reason that we go through this then maybe someone you know we can go look and see if there's recommendations then we can put in we can talk with Kathy like hey what can we put in for CPC money >> right >> maybe there's some of these like little projects that we can that we can knock off
>> right it almost would be good to start like a 5-year plan of the CPC what what requests we want to make >> and start projecting that out a little bit if
that's something we think we can do. >> Yeah, I think we probably could do it. And none of the the timing right now is we have all these meetings, we have all this community stuff. So, granted, there's like things in here that they're going to make recommendations. Maybe we
have time to to put that forward on this committee. Another thing from the CPC was that most are coming from residents, right? like most requests are coming from residents, which is great, but in the same regard, it's like our outreach and communication
for CBC money. To your point, it's like that the website's not great, you know, they're trying to get on social media and all that stuff to get it out and and put it out there. >> Um, >> so we'll we'll see. I think we have members on our committee
that are working towards communication, updating the website um and like updating our process and everything >> and I'm happy to list more on our page, you know, than what's currently there, you know, so I can I can add to that obviously, you know, big
>> because even like the basketball court, you know, people are complaining about the basketball court on Walnut behind behind us right there and it's like that's in progress and like people just don't know that. Correct. So, >> I just think it would be helpful from a communication standpoint to say like
>> these are the things that >> what's up coming >> so people at least know, oh wow, okay. >> And the interesting thing about that was it was really led by like it was >> Nick Milano and then it was like a neighborhood group here that kind of like pushed that. It wasn't necessarily
from us. Mhm. >> So, but I do think the more that we go like 4 years of CPC funding, I was saying there's total success stories like the dugouts and everything that we should be like putting out there. By the way, you're money like that's like
projects are that are happening. >> Um, so I think we can do a better job of that. Uh, CPC, I think we will. Um, and kind of planning is in motion. The big thing is is that we had we also had an admin when you know for a few years we
no longer have an admin so that's fallen on the committee >> and we also are going to hire out an admin soon to like help the committee >> to do all this work >> and I think it's even like tracking down the old projects that were that were you know funded and then they weren't done
and so whatever else but I think getting the admin will be really important. Um, yeah, >> we did add it to our town report. I said we did add it there. >> One one. Do you do updates to the website or do does someone else in town do updates? >> I do the majority of all the updates to
the website. There's like one or two areas where I have to go to it to assist me to get access. >> U, but for the most part, I do. >> Okay. >> Is there anything more that you're looking besides that to add? >> Well, no. like our CPC was just asking
us to like cuz whoever does the website I think they were like we don't know who to go to to get even update website so I was like got to figure this out >> right >> but where they don't have an admin right now where they don't have an admin I would suggest that they go to it
>> okay that's what I figured yeah >> yeah okay that all sounds good um but yeah let's keep it in mind I think over the next 3 months like If there is some easy pickings, then maybe that would be fine. >> Yeah,
>> we can we can the application is super easy. Like that would take a half hour to fill out. >> Well, just as we're starting to get these survey results in, there's going to be a lot that, you know, potentially could be recommended to us. So >> maybe even by our April 16th meeting,
Kevin, that maybe we maybe at that point we we understand maybe some like recommendations. Maybe there's some projects or is there any even projects that you guys are thinking of that we might be able to use CPC money right now?
>> One I thought of is that is the uh is new dugouts for the Andrew girls softball. >> Mhm. >> It's just a good one. >> It's just a bench down there. >> That's all they have. >> We're going to do something like that.
Talk about baseball and reposition. Well, the the the baseballs they were done, >> but they don't they don't have covering. So, >> they don't have covering, so I don't know how hard it would be to But to your point, yes, that'd be a to add in. Um
>> Okay. >> It just >> it's kind of >> suggestion. >> They're out of their way down, you know. But a good example of a smaller project that was funded by CPC that will be completed in the spring is the water station
>> at Andrews, you know, now a lot of people use that. >> Well, I'm thinking, you know, like bleachers, too. Like over at Andrews, there's nothing there. People just bring their chairs. I'm sure, >> you know, I know that they're I know Milton Girl softball's putting in new
signs. They they they got new signs made like on the around the field. Right. So, >> and you know, Ryan brought up the basketball issue, you know, the requests for basketball. Mary C Lane, that field doesn't get used for soccer
anymore, right? Really doesn't get used for anything. It It did this fall and they'll never go back. >> They did a number on it. >> Bad. >> But they were out of place and they had no way to go. So, we let them go out in the outfield. >> Might not be a bad spot. Oh, off to the
right >> for a basketball court there. There's parking. There's >> Yep. >> Yeah, >> cuz it is >> I know Kelly feels people that >> want basketball there. >> I'm not sure where >> that may take like some of these bigger projects may take more time, but maybe
maybe like the dug like something easy like that they always put in. >> Doesn't have any outdoor basketball. >> They do, right? They have tennis courts. by the track. Oh, yeah.
>> Right off by the track. >> Right by the track. Hidden behind a couple of the buildings. >> Yeah. >> But my son and his friends go down there. It's kind of >> not everyone knows about it. No. >> That's what I was going to say on the streets >> because then they would start people off >> because it's this. >> Yeah.
>> All right. Um the street hockey. I just put it on there because they came before us. Was there anything more on it? I haven't heard I haven't heard anything. >> Well, it's probably one, right? >> Um, so maybe
>> I can reach out to you reach out to them and then see like let's let's get them back in here for that. >> So, how did how did things end? We had the quotes. >> Yeah, I have the quotes right now that just what we want to spend. >> Okay. >> It's got roughly around 10 grand.
>> Okay. and we were going to just kind of run the quotes by them to say or or run the thoughts of what we could do by them. >> I don't want I don't want to go out and prove it without them >> here and getting like a sign off at the
end. So, he's got the quotes, they come, >> can you just reach out to them and ask them can they come to the April 16th meeting? >> Yeah. >> Um and then we would put it as an agenda item and then see if we can get some kind of resolution to it. Does that sound good, Kevin?
>> Sure. >> Um, we're not doing anything regardless the way the leather is. Um, over this stuff melts. Um, all right. Manager report. Go ahead, Kev.
>> Um, so this upcoming spring, just to the uncertainty of when, like Rob said, when everything melts, even when it melts, everything's going to be soaking wet. So there's going to be delays this year going out using the fields >> and baseball supposed to start high
school a week from Monday. >> Yeah. >> It's not happened. This I wish it would. But so um so Milton Academy has stepped up big time this year and like they have in the past few years. So soccer,
softball, lacrosse, and baseball will all be using Milton Academy fields this year. DCR will be taking soccer, baseball, and softball. Um, so we do have backup fields, but they've already told me they're like us that you're not getting on it till it's ready.
>> Yeah. >> So, um, we do have those permits. Um, so we're just waiting on mother nature and people have to be patient and you go on the field when it's wet, you're done for the year. You're going to ruin it for the
year. And people, they just, they need to get out there. I know they do, but it's just >> needs to drive. >> You got to you got to you got to realize what you're hurting >> cuz you can't and I tell this to people and that like some of those comments on that. You can't fix a field during the
year. >> We are not the Red Sox grounds crew. >> Can't rip up 100 yards and put in a new grass field. It doesn't work. >> Yeah. >> So, >> absolutely. >> Once you ruin it, >> it's gone. >> It's kind of gone. >> Yeah. unfortunately. But
>> yeah, um I think I think that was it for me. >> All right. Um we start our spring basketball this Sunday. Close to 300 kids in this program. Uh our Irish step
ends a week from tonight. They do like a little fetch, which is like a little I don't know. They dance in front of the grandparents and parents starting the summer prep now for the summer programs. Uh then we'll be running into our spring
tennis and our Easter egg festivals on March 28th. So we're prepping for all that as we speak. >> That's it. >> A little later, right? Because of the uh school schedule now for the summer. >> Yeah. So we have to go we have to bump
our summer count calendar up a week. >> We got to reconfigure a little bit. >> Everything's going to be changed which >> changed snow days. >> Snow days. >> So that's going to be challenging but we'll get out there. >> We had to move our canopy leg uh due to
bus and charter issues because all the charter buses are being used for work. the >> that's you can't get a charter brother cost during those two weeks >> and if you do it's going to be $500 more
of us would currently be >> going to be did someone step up because it wasn't a tougher or something saying they could do it. >> No, it's still not right. >> They two weeks to figure it out. >> They still won't give the permits
>> crash. There's a few things obviously it's a big summer. We have the sale of Boston taking place. Uh we nixed George's Island uh completely which we didn't go last year because of an issue we had there also but um they're not even doing the free tickets like they
just because of everything that's going on there's a lot. >> So we will replace that with something else. >> All right. That's everything. We uh nothing else is there.
>> I want to um let you guys know that I am not running for real. So let them know the other day down in the office. So >> you know this hard work, but this is
>> I know. Come on. >> He's done a great job. It was hard. >> But you were you were here for how long? >> For a long time. Eight and eight and a half. Yeah. >> I kind of came in. Kevin did a year. So I did two years of him and then three, you know, six years after that.
>> Well, we're sorry to see you go, that's for sure. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm >> follow >> on paper. I show up to meetings. That's what I tell people. I guess I got more than that. I show up at meetings. Yeah. >> It's been it's been a pleasure. >> So, a few more meetings. Um, yeah. see
what happens. You guys are in good hands here. >> I'm giving the bills on the bills and showing. That's what I do. >> All right. Well, thanks for everything there and you're volunteering and appreciate it for sure. >> Well, it sounds like you have some more stuff to do, so I'll be around for
>> Yeah. What's the deal? >> I know. I I filled up your last >> damn. >> I know. But to be honest that that it will kind of be a good book end for you because it'll be like we'll be done with all the studies to do the right.
>> What is the date of the election? 28th. Okay. >> All right. >> Oh to second. Yes. Yes. Don't go.
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