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Part 1 (Video ID: MrIfYRFudlw):
- 00:00:11: Meeting Convenes, Pledge, and Public Comment Instructions
- 00:00:44: Public Comment: Robert Muzzy on Cell Phone Towers
- 00:04:50: Public Comment: John Corey on Traffic on Canton
- 00:07:50: Public Comment: Town Farm Vision for Adults
- 00:11:13: Public Comment: Ada Rosemary on Library Closure
- 00:13:18: Public Hearing Opened: Two Pence Market Liquor License
- 00:14:39: Two Pence Market Owner Describes Grocery Concept
- 00:15:52: Select Board Questions Two Pence Market Details
- 00:19:53: Two Pence Market Parking and Neighborhood Impact
- 00:23:38: Two Pence Competition, Coffee, and Public Comment
- 00:27:25: Public Comment Supports Two Pence Liquor License
- 00:28:47: Select Board Approves Two Pence Liquor License
- 00:30:49: Public Hearing Opened: AT&T Small Cell Installations
- 00:31:51: AT&T Lawyer Ed Perry Introduces Cell Nodes
- 00:35:26: AT&T Team Details 10 Proposed Node Locations
- 00:42:57: Board Questions Purpose, Coverage, and Cell Numbers
- 00:47:34: Board Questions Health Concerns Regarding Emissions
- 00:50:50: Specialist Hayes explains Emission Calculations and Impacts
- 00:55:22: AT&T Representative on Small Cell Improvements 
- 01:00:12: Discussion of Pole Coordination and Maintenance Procedures
- 01:04:38: Board Discusses Taxes, Noise, and Public Comment
- 01:06:30: Public Comment: Muzzy Questions AT&T Narrative Errors
- 01:09:32: Board Weighs Response to Errors and Options
- 01:12:16: Board Discusses Fees and Moves to Continue Hearing
- 01:14:54: Randolph Avenue Pilot Program Presentation Begins
- 01:17:15: Goals of Road Diet, Project Timeline Review
- 01:21:54: Summarizing and Categorizing Community Feedback
- 01:23:54: Neighboring Communities' Feedback from Transit
- 01:24:29: Map of Modifications Done on Randolph Avenue
- 01:25:35: Evaluation Criteria, Field Visits, and Data Points
- 01:28:41: Conflicts Points and Crash Trends During Pilot
- 01:31:05: Impact of Vehicle Speeds, with Speed Feedback
- 01:33:23: Traffic Counts in the Local Neighborhood of Route 28
- 01:37:27: Alternate Routes in Relation to Randolph Avenue
- 01:37:48: Travel Times and Feedback on Abutter Access
- 01:39:01: Pilot Program Success: Safety, Speed, and Emergency Response
- 01:40:46: Public Comment #1: Randolph Ave Road Diet Success
- 01:42:00: Public Comment #2: Support, Cut-Throughs, Signal Timing Issues
- 01:44:30: Consultant Response: Cut-Through Traffic Mitigation Strategies
- 01:50:15: Roundabout and Randolph Ave Development Concerns
- 01:51:56: Roundabout Construction Timeline and Safety Features
- 01:57:09: Public Comment #3: Roundabout, Traffic, and Chickatabbit Road
- 02:00:44: Public Comment #4: Canton Ave Cut-Throughs, Resident Concerns
- 02:02:14: Public Comment #5: Randolph Ave Safety, Gridlock Concerns
- 02:04:18: Public Comment #6: Thanks for Safer Hillside Intersection
- 02:05:10: Bicycle Safety Concerns and Reconstruction Plans
- 02:10:38: Housing Production Plan: Advisory Committee Formation
- 02:13:08: Pilot Committee: Adding a Board of Park Commissioners
- 02:14:51: Laboré College Closure and Land Acquisition Discussion


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Hey, thank you everyone. Like to welcome you to tonight's uh Milton Select Board meeting of Tuesday, May 26, 20, 2026, 7 p.m. here in the Dunrey conference room. If you could all join me in standing for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge

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>> of the flag. of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. We will start with public

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comments. Uh public comment will be limited individually to three minutes at a time, 21 minutes in total. I will keep track of both. Mr. Milano, if you could grab >> others, >> Robert,

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it's okay. >> We'll start with I saw on the top of the list, Mr. Robert. >> I have comments. comments regarding the cell phone. Um >> come to the table. >> Okay,

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this is >> state your name small Robert Muzzy. Um 291 Hillside Street where I've lived for 46 years. Um I was the um original founding president of the oldest neighborhood association in Milton

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Hillside neighborhood association in 1986. So we are 40 years old this year. Um I have four points to make about the cell phone towers uh which uh and I'm speaking for myself not as an official

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representative of the association tonight. Um, but I've spoken with a number of people u and gathered these concerns. The cell phone tower uh application um there are 10 applications and I read all

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143 pages today along with the 10page um uh rules and regulations of the town of Milton. And obviously there was a lot of cutting and pasting to put this together on the part of AT&T. The text for application for 428

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Hillside Street, for example, page seven, wrongly references a location on Summer Street when it's talking about the application for Hillside Street. So, the town needs to review carefully all 143 pages, word for word, to make sure

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that this is this is um correct in all respects. It's a legal document and there's a legal contract. So, uh, currently it's careless and sloppy. Also for 428 Hillside Street, the pole referenced is actually in front

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of 402 Hillside Street, not 428. This pole VZ74, which I visited today, already has a 7 foot tall what I think is probably a transformer on it, but I'm not a an industrial electrician, so I can't say

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for sure. plus two other boxes for electrical devices. Is there in fact room for additional um small sale equipment here? And did AT&T actually last >> check this poll? Um point number two, we

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want to make sure that radio frequency levels are within safe FCC guidelines. Does AT&T guarantee they will test um each uh location after installation and certify to the town that each is within

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safe levels with an FCC appliance compliance report. Point three, one neighbor has previously had a bad um prior experience with the noise emitted by a prior competitor's installation at 275 Hillside Street.

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Even people walking by uh on the street commented on the offensive noise level. The residents worked with the carrier and eventually they had to modify the installation to bring the noise to an acceptable level. So I don't see any reference um in the town regulations

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with regard to noise, but it it should be noted. >> Sorry, Mr. Mosy, that's your time, but we will have public comment later after AT&T. Okay, I have one more point to make and I'll save that for later. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Uh, next. Sir, I saw you here, but I know you didn't sign in, so you just signed. Can I

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>> sign nervous? Yikes. Don't be nervous. Uh, I'll just say before I start, I would just like to say um I remember when Nick was the new guy and now he's the old guy in the room. It wasn't that long ago. It's like full circle here. I just any

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Okay. Thank you. Uh John Corey, 1452 Canton Avenue. Uh, and I'm I'm here to talk about the Rolph Avenue road diet and the um other aspects of it uh within the town. Uh, I'm deeply concerned about the speed of cut through traffic on

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Upper Canton Avenue. In the past eight years, since returning to my hometown to renovate a historic home, I have consistently advocated for trafficcoming measures and presented my concerns to both the select board here and the traffic commission, always emphasizing

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the urgent need to address high-speed cutthrough traffic that not only endangers our safety, but also threatens the very identity of the town. In response to these concerns, I've actively participated in traffic commission meetings uh and advocated for

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increased safety enhancements, including recently completed Randolph Avenue road diet. The benefits to the safety in this corridor are undeniable. It's really a benefit to the business owners and the residents there. However, Upper Canton Avenue has

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undoubtedly experienced an increase in traffic, particularly fastmoving cutthrough traffic. I received radar sign data from the town and I was shocked to discover that my observations had actually underestimated the problem. Not only had traffic counts gone up

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year-over-year, but in a recent 30-day period, data from our own radar science revealed an astonishing 86% of the vehicles on Arpampton Avenue were speeding. 86%. If we dig into the data deeper, we find

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some truly alarming recorded vehicle speeds. While speeds are often in their high30s, you see them in the 40s. You see some in the 50s, I'm going to point out three. On May 2nd, Saturday, 10 p.m., 62 miles

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an hour. Thursday, August April 30th at 3 p.m. in the afternoon, 65 miles an hour. April 28th at 400 p.m. in the afternoon, 78 miles an hour. These individuals are

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not reckless drivers. They are operating killing machines. We must address this situation properly. And I'll cut to the chase. We have the DOT here. We need the state resources, the town resources. I will say Nick and his team have been awesome with me. We

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got a lot of improvements on Upper Canton Avenue so far. More can come. I have lots of ideas. I can get and energize my neighbors and uh I'm just counting on the select board to to really take it seriously and help us out up out there. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, sir. >> Don't start it yet. >> Name and address, sir. >> Eoro, uh 41 Hawthorne Road, West Milton. Um, so this is in regards to the town farm, so uh, bear with me. I get very

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nervous. Good evening. With the town farm RFP withdrawn, Milton has a rare second chance to choose something better, a path shaped by care and community and responsibility to our own community rather than

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standard commercial development. I am speaking for the residents that are often left out of the conversation like this. Adults who grew up in Milton attended our schools and live with developmental disabilities including Down syndrome and autism. As they enter

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adulthood, their families want what any family wants, a chance for them to live independently and possibly with sorry and possibly with uh

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possible while remaining close to home with trusted supports and the community that knows and values them. At the town farm, we would create a small community-based living model where residents share housing, build daily

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living skills, and make visible contributions through a community garden, a farm stand, and a small plant nursery that supports townwide tree planting. These would not be symbolic activities.

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uh they would be real responsibilities that would build dignity, confidence and purpose while developing uh while deepening the residents connection to Milton. This vision could be advanced through contribution among

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the Governor Stoton Trust, the Affordable Housing Trust, the Community Preservation Committee, the Milton Housing Authority, and the Planning Board. The Governor Stoton Trust owns the land and this use would honor the will's

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purpose by serving Milton residents in the need. Working with the affordable trout uh housing trust, it could help guide the RFP process focused on this goal. I uh CPA funding could provide seed

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money for town-owned affordable housing. The housing authority could help secure rental subsidies. seconds. >> What? >> 30 seconds. >> Okay. And keep housing permanently affordable. The planning board could help ensure the uh project is

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welldesigned and fits the surrounding neighborhoods. I'll I'll fast forward. Uh by moving forward this model, we can ensure that these young adults remain safe, valued, and and connected to the place that they have always called home. They are not outsiders asking to be

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included. They already belong here and they are our neighbors, classmates, friends and family members. I respectfully urge the select board and the governor Stoen trustees to take these opportunities seriously and move with this vision forward. I really appreciate your time. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Thanks.

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>> Um, Rosemary, >> I will elevate a Rosemary who is online. Mr. Rosemary, we can hear you. >> Yes. Hi. Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Yes. Hi, Ada Rosemary, 88 Warf Street.

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Um, I'd like to speak briefly to your agenda item on library college closure and sale. Um, as you know, time is short, but if the town of Milton is seriously interested in acquiring the

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library site, I ask you to please work now to consider all the things that the town might be able to do with that property. Seek input from residents. There will be lots of good ideas and unmet needs, I'm sure, that will be brought to the table.

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Um, second, if a school building is seen as the best use of the library property compared to the larger parcel that we already own at Guile Road, please consider these two things. After 5 years of applying for Mass School Building

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Authority funding, we finally got approval from the state to pay for 45% of allowable expenses for a new school. We don't want to leave those state funds on the table unless we find it to be more more affordable or advantageous to

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go it alone. And second, a new school is a generational investment for any town. It may be tempting to find temporary fixes, but it would be shortsighted and a mistake to not fully address our decadel long school overcrowding crisis

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with a lasting solution that will serve our town for many years to come. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, see no one else online or no one else in person. Close public comment. Thank you all.

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We'll move to item four, our public hearing for the application of two Pence Market LLC located at two Elliot Street in Milton for retail package store license to expose, keep for sale, and to sell all kinds of alcoholic beverages not to be consumed

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on premises. I will declare that public hearing open now at 7:15 p.m. Outlining the following process, meaning the public hearing will begin with a presentation from the applicant. After this presentation, the select board members may ask questions

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of the applicant. Members of the p public also may be involved to make comments and ask and ask questions for no more than three minutes. We will set aside a maximum of now 20 minutes for the public hearing on today's agenda and we'll continue the hearing at our next regular meeting if so necessary. So I

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will declare that the Milton Select Board as a local licensing authority will hold a public hearing on Tuesday, May 26, 2026 at 7:15 in the Katherine Dumpy conference room at the former fire headquarters located at 515 Canton Avenue and Milton Inerson hybrid meeting

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and the request of two Pence Market LLC located at 2 Elliot Street Milton Mass for a retail package store license to expose, keep for sale, and to sell all kinds of alcoholic beverages not to be consumed on the premises. Members of the public may access the meeting in person or online or watch that the live access

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on Milton Access TV. Mr. Carrian. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Congrats to the new members of the board. >> Um my name is Daniel Carrian. I am currently the owner operator of Steel

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and Ry at 95 Elliot Street. I'm also a Milton resident, 49 Russell Street. Um and we are in the midst of uh construction at two Elliott Street which is a former Bank of America building uh building 2 Pence Market. Uh so the

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market will be a sort of neighborhood local groceryer. We'll feature lots of local produce, grass-fed beef, pork, dairy, poultry. Um we'll have prepared meals. We'll have a quick serve counter which will serve uh

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smoothies and salads and bagels. And uh along with our grocery section, we are requesting a license to serve retail uh spirits, wine, and beer. We'll open the floor for questions or points from the members.

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You got to have some at least like the brands he's selling at least. >> So in in your application, you're the alcohol purchases to is to go. Correct. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Do you do you anticipate any on-site

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seating um within the market? And how how would your team what's the um operating procedure protocol that you would use to monitor or police, you know, somebody grabs a bottle of wine, what's to stop them from opening it up

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on site? >> Good question. >> And enjoying it. >> Yeah, of course. We've had lots of questions. We we will have uh a small amount of seating indoors. We'll have maybe a dozen seats inside. Um, and then outdoors we have a patio area uh with

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more seating. Um, so we've had that question a lot. Um, but everything that we prepare at the market will be packaged to go. So all the foods that we prepare will be packaged to go. Smoothies, salads, all of those things. So someone chose to take a bagel and sit quickly at the counter and eat or hit

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one of the stools and eat, that's fine. Um, >> but as far as opening a bottle of wine, there will be no glassware, there will be no service wear, there will be no weight staff. Um, so we would of course prohibit on-site consumption

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>> and um, thanks for the background. Just just could you just lay out in a little bit more detail like how the alcohol sale will go? Is is it just basically like a package store situation where you're buying to go basically?

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>> Exactly. So um, and I have a follow-up question. >> Sure. Sorry to cut you off. the the way the retail market floor will be set up. Is if you order at the quick s serve counter, you won't pay at that time. Products will be made. You could shop around the store. When your items are

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ready, your name will be called and you'll go to the registers as if you're in a a small supermarket and the register is at the exit door. So, you'd pay on your way out. Uh so, the same would go for Spirits, Wine, and Beer. Um we we will definitely be employing local

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residents same as we do at Steel and Ry. So you know if there's any underage residents under the age of 18 working the registers a manager would be required to handle the sale. Um similar you see that at the food center all the time or any any supermarkets that sell

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alcohol. Um but as far as you wouldn't you wouldn't be purchasing it at at a counter and walking around the shop with it. you're essentially the registers are set up at the exit. So once you make that purchase, you'd be heading out. >> One criteria and thanks for that that

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that we're evaluating is sort of the public need and supposed to take in account sort of nearby licenses in the area. And I don't know if you have any intel on that in terms of what's what other options are close proximity there

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to um or not close proximity. >> Yeah, sure. Crafted Crew is at the other end of Elliot Street at Central LA. They're a wellestablished shop. Um they they definitely focus on really high quality products. They do a phenomenal job. Um we're definitely looking to

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contribute to the neighborhood and not detract from what other operators are doing. Um, a big part of, um, what we're planning to sell is prepared meals, you know, for families or, you know, a way to a way to get something that's healthy that's that's sort of um, local

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ingredients, clean ingredients, doesn't feel like takeout food. Um, so to be able to to get, you know, piece together a roasted chicken and some local seasonal vegetables and, you know, a couple sides of this and that, a bottle of wine paired with that to go is is sort of the vision that, you know, you

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can you can kind of piece a whole meal together and bring it home. I don't think um, Spirits, Wine, and Beer is going to be the showcase of the restaurant. We really, it's not a liquor store. It's really a a food market and spirits and and wine would be

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ingredients to go along with that. Sort of how we're viewing it. >> Thank you. >> I'm not been in the steel and ry establishment a couple of times. It's a great store. It's clean. Got good help.

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I'm sure this store is going to be the same. Uh just how's the parking going to go? >> Yeah, >> because you got the fitness across the street. >> Yep. >> It's a tight area. Uh >> yeah,

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>> you managed it ali you know your other store fine. I'm just you have any other plans? >> It's a great question. I think when we when we decided to put the market in that location in Milton Village really started looking at the

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village as a whole and saying it's it's really a very transactional village. You know, it's called Milton Village, but you go to the ATM and leave or you go to the post office and leave or you go to the gym and leave. It's not really a village where you go and explore what's happening down there. So the idea that

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we can create some connection between steel and ride, the bike path, the trolley stops, the gym, the market, the farmers market on on the warf just to, you know, sort of start to piece these things together and and maybe there's opportunity for future projects um as

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spaces become available. the the idea of creating a village, creating a place where you can ride your bike up the bike path to or you can get off a train stop at or you can park your car once and go to the gym, stop into the market after the gym and get a smoothie and pick up a

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few things for dinner or a few light groceries. But this idea of of helping to create Milton Village, helping to make it a village as opposed to a place where I drive in, I circle around, I park, I get one thing, and I get back in my car and drive away. you know, it's

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not really used in a village sense right now, but I think um we could be a lot closer to that than than it appears. >> Thanks. >> Um currently at Steel and Riot, you guys have Door Dash and some of the other

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>> Uber Eats. Yep. >> Yeah. >> Is so I would be worried just as we're talking about traffic with that for 2 P. Is there any plan to have two Pence as a part of that being a tougher location for sort of that you know think about East Milton all the the folks throwing

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the hazardous lights on grabbing it and jumping back in be hard to have that at Adam Street. >> Yeah, that's a great question. We do have uh worth noting behind the building we do have a private parking lot. So there's seven on-site parking spaces. Um and then directly across the street where Muscle and Flow is, I think

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there's eight or nine parking spaces. There's three parallels at the front door and there's another six or eight u running up High Street and then on the Adam Street side. Um there's another six or eight, you know, within the property line. So I think although the there is

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we all know there's a lot of traffic there that there's not an overabundance of parking, there are definitely places to pull your car out of the way and and park and especially with the parking lot. I think >> um you know right now what we've seen is that's kind of a free-for-all.

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You know the the parking lot is mostly filled with people going to the post office or people going to citizens bank or coming and going. So I think once that's designated as two pence parking um that really will be utilized for the market which would be of benefit to us for sure.

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just to comment, you know, another criteria is sort of the character and fitness of the applicant and you know, Steel and Ry and you do tremendously good work in the community. So, um, so I just wanted to commend that.

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>> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. We look to expand that for sure. Uh, last question. Uh, you spoke about Crafting Crew and then there's Stevies as well as the other liquor store right there and yourself and Ste and Ry. Um,

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is there any sort of like in between yourself and some of the other owners in the area about sort of working together so it's not a as competitive in the space in the village like you're selling similar things but different, right? We wouldn't want anyone to feel that they're going to fail um in that area as well.

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>> Yeah, that's a great question. I think each of these shops are so distinctly different. If you look at Craft and Crew, that's really a wine, you know, a wine drinker's wine shop, right? And I I shop there, you know, whenever I'm not, you know, enjoying something I found at

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Steel and Ry, but you know, if I'm buying something to bring home, I shop at Crafting Crew. And I think you go there to learn something new, learn about a new region, learn about a new grape varietal. I think the Central Liquors is is a value shop, right? you know, they have the full selection. You

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can go in there and, you know, you're going to find if you're looking for spirits or beer. You know, they have hundreds of labels uh in both of those categories. I don't think we'll really be any of those things. You know, we're not going to be a connoisseur wine shop. We're not going to be um a wholesale

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spirit spirit shop. We're looking to say, "Okay, here's 40 spirit labels that we think are really special. We think that this covers the gamut of what people might be looking for when they're picking up a few groceries and things for dinner. Same thing with wine. Hey, we put out a beautiful chicken millise

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dish and here's a a light Italian red that's going to pair with that or a northern Italian white that's going to pair with that. It's more um you know it's Thursday night and we're going to have a simple dinner at home and grab a bottle of wine. So, I don't think um I

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think it's just different markets. And I also think the more businesses we have in the village, you know, the more it'll lift the village. You know, when we opened Steel and Ry, you know, I know this is over the bridge, but there was no Yellow Door, there was no Lower Mills Tavern, there was no Bowery, there was

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no Lucy's, there was no Bolinaries, and on and on and on. Um, and as each of those restaurants have opened, we've gotten busier. Um, you know, our restaurant has gotten busier each year for the past five or six years as all of those restaurants are thriving also. And I think we could see the same thing in

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the village. Bring more businesses. I think it's just more reasons to come down there. >> Are you planning to serve Fazenda coffee? >> We're currently planning on Fazenda coffee. How do you feel about that?

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>> I'm a big fan of the Fenda coffee at Steel and Ry. >> Good. I will pass that along to our friend Phil. >> Forget about your beer and wine. I care about your coffee. >> Awesome. Yeah, we're um coffee is one of those things that can be highly divisive like bagels and pizza. So, we we dabble

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in all the things that everyone has an opinion about. So, I'm glad that you like the coffee. I >> just want sandwiches. >> We we will have bagels, which I think is something that is not really, you know, there is brewers in East Milton, but there's nothing on this side of town or lower mills or um you know, anywhere in

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the area. So, I think that will be something exciting to add and I'm sure I'll have lots of opinions as soon as we serve a bagel of what style is this and you know why. We look forward to that. I think we'll make a great one.

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Thank you. So, questions members. >> I'll open it up for public comment either in person or online. >> Not at the moment. >> Uh Certainly. >> I've been

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>> poking around. It It's absolutely amazing. It's going to really just break open that whole place. It's just going to be fantastic. I can't wait. It's I I I get what he needs. like grabbing something, going

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down to the warf. If no one's been down to the warf and walked along the wararf, grabbing a sandwich or something is just really opens it up and it's just just makes it more inviting, especially for this side of town. Parking's parking going to double park, you're going to

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try to find parking. But I always go to the hardware store. I always have I find don't have a problem finding parking. You know, if you want to be there, you'll you'll find parking. But >> you just do an amazing job at Steel and Ryan. It just looks like it's it's a perfect fit for that building on one of

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those sites like a steakhouse. >> Thank you. >> But I think it's I >> We'll take that into consideration. >> Yeah, I think it's No, I think it's just it's going to be so exciting to go in and see it. So I I just don't see why >> I think adding a little I don't drink

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personally, but icing like just going in and grabbing something. Maybe I'm making something for a little party or something. I'll just grab it real quick. Drop it off. It's really nice. But I appreciate all the work you put into.

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>> Thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> All right. If that is um no more comments from the public or from the board, I will take a motion unless we feel we don't have enough uh evidence tonight. move to close the evidentiary portion of

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the public hearing. >> Moved a second. >> So we can I think we can close that without >> jump the gun. Okay. >> Do we need to vote on the close? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So it will be a roll call vote. Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. >> Mr. Obashamer.

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>> Sorry. Clarify. >> What are we voting? >> We're just closing. We're just closing the evidence. Okay. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> And yes for me. So I will take another motion. We are so motion to approve. Anyone?

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>> I'm looking at the motion script. I want to make sure I got it correct. >> So here we go. Move to approve the application of 2 Pence Market LLC located at 2 Elliot Street in Milton for a retail package store license to expose, keep for sale,

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and sell all kinds of alcoholic beverages not to be consumed on the premises. >> Second of Mr. Mr. Driscoll. Right. Uh, roll call vote. Mr. Driscoll, >> yes. >> Mr. Ober, >> yes. >> Beth Sagerty,

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>> yes. >> And myself, yes. >> Mr. Carrian, thank you. Um, I will say it's really great that you are a Milton resident as well and building and uh in the sense of keeping this town sort of

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uh providing more >> here. So, thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> Thanks for all the support. >> All right, a second. We'll move to a second public hearing. Right. I will declare that public hearing

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started at 7:33. Select board will conduct a public hearing at 7:33 on Tuesday, May 26, 2026 pursuant to the town's small cell equipment policy on an application from New Singular Wireless PCS LLC doing

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business as AT&T to install 10 small wireless facilities on existing and replacement poles at the following locations. 175 Sar Street, 20 Ridgwood Bow, 633 Harland Street, 681 Hillside Street, 650 Randolph A, 428 Hillside

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Street, 121 Harborview Road, 1282 Randolph Avenue, 848 Hillside Street, 800 Hillside Street. Plans for the proposed facilities are available for public inspection in the select board office located in the town office. The hearing will be conducted in person in the Katherine Duffy conference room

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located in the former fire headquarters 515 K nav Milton Mass and will feature remote access in according with MGL chapter 31 as amended. Members of the public may access the meeting, attend in person, watch the meeting broadcast on

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Access TV or news. >> Welcome sir if you >> good evening to the select board. My name is Ed Perry. It's P A R E. I'm an attorney at Brown Red Rick, one financial center in Boston, Massachusetts. Uh I'm here representing New Singular

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PCS LLC, which operates as AT&T uh in this market. I do have a few folks with me on line, I believe. Uh but if there are any particular questions, we do have our radio frequency engineer, our site acquisition agent, and the

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health expert who prepared the emissions report for AT&T. Uh so we have 10 nodes. I know you're familiar with the nodes. Uh it's small cell facilities. Uh one of our competitors was here in the past and as I drove in I noticed you get to see all

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of these things that uh I never realized in law school that would have know so much about public rightways and utility poles. But here we are. I noticed you do have a couple of nodes. Uh as I drove into town just generally the node

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consists of an antenna. Some of these are sidemounted, some of them are top mounted. Antenna is the same. 24 in in height, 16 inches in diameter, and as I said, it'll either attach to the top or there'll be a side bracket uh off the

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utility pole. Uh this it's a equipment cabinet, which is 48 in long, 24 in wide, and 20 in deep. And then uh the radios are inserted into that equipment cabinet.

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Cables are run up to the antenna through conduit so they're not visible. We bring power fiber to each of these nodes as we refer to them. Um we don't have ground equipment on any of them. Uh everything is attached to the pole. There's some grounding rods that

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go in pursuant to um Eversource requirements. Each poll is licensed by AT&T through Eversource. We have an agreement with them. They have approved our filing about the application for each of these 10 nodes.

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Uh right now AT&T provides most of its coverage to through a distributed antenna system in the town of Milton that places a lot of limitations on AT&T's ability to change equipment, upgrade software, provide service and

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capacity. With the advent of the FCC ruling in the public right ofways, AT&T is seeking to install their own equipment on the pole so they can do their own upgrades and provide better service and capacity. Uh

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combination tonight we have six poles um they're existing that we'll attach to uh four polls will be replaced and in the proposed order I provided. I know double polls are a hot topic everywhere. Uh there is we did place a condition that uh double poles will not exist for the

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replacement poles. With that, Mr. Chair, I I assume we'll go through each node. Uh I give you the general description. I can give you a quick preview and we can get comments, questions uh from the public. Some will probably attract more attention than

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others uh understandably, but >> uh you may want to go through each individually and then folks will respond. Terrific. So we refer to as node one. Is it 173 Ser Street? Now I did notice the

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question about the addresses. These are not exact addresses. Uh we select the poll. We work through our source to license it. We provide the attachment address. Typically they're in front of the of the street address. The plans

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govern there could be some typos producing these narrative applications 10 times. I don't doubt that there was a typo here or there, but the plans really govern. You have stamp plans. You have photo simulations for each package. You

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have a radio frequency emissions report uh and coverage maps. Uh one coverage map for all of 10 nodes. So with that for with node one uh this is an existing poll we're proposing to use. The antenna will be mounted to the top the emissions

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of 13.5% of the FCC maximum. Uh we comply with all of the policy requirements and guidelines. There are no nodes within 150 ft. Uh there are no nodes within 500 ft. Uh in accordance

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with those guidelines, the closest residential structure is about 84 feet from the node. We're not in the front of the structure. Uh you have a structural report uh that shows that the existing pole can in fact accommodate the

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equipment. With that, that's the extent of node one. I'd be happy to answer any questions. >> Go through all 10. We'll probably just address them collectively. Uh node two is likewise an existing pole installation. This is a side mounted.

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It's actually on the rear of the pole where the pen will be mounted. Uh the equipment cabinet, they'll all be located in the same location at about 11 1/2 ft above. Uh this is located near 428 Hillside Street. It's pole number 48. Um the emissions because it's a

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sideb closer to the ground. The emissions is 30.7% of the FCC maximum. No nodes within 150 ft or 500 ft. Uh it's 297 ft from the closest residential structure per Google Earth. I should note

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um you know same installation except it's a rear mount or side mounted. Note number three is located near 20 Ridgewood Road. It's a replacement pole. Um

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likewise, it'll be a side mount uh antenna. Uh the emissions for this site would be 33.5% of the FCC max. There are no nodes within 150 ft. There is one node within 500 ft. Uh and you can see that on sheet C3 of our site plan. We're

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approximately 47 and 54 feet from the closest two residential structures. Uh again, you have a structural uh that shows it can accommodate uh the installation and after the replacement would expect that wouldn't be a problem.

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Node four, it's located near 121 Harbor View Road. This is a replacement utility pole. Uh it's pole number eight. Uh this will be a sidemounted antenna. The emissions for

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this site is 28.4%. Again, same design uh as the others. There are no nodes within 150 ft or within 500 ft. We're approximately 50 52 feet and 60 ft from the closest residential structures.

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Node five is near 633 Highland Harland Street. This is an existing utility pole. This likewise will be a side mount where the antenna will be on the side of the pole. The emissions for this one is 39.3% of the FCC maximum. There are no

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nodes within 150 ft. There is one node within 500 ft. The closest residential structure is 135 ft. Um again you have the structural report uh as part of the package. Same design as the others.

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Note six. It's located at 1282 Randolph Avenue. This is a replacement utility pole. Um the antenna will be top mounted in this instance. Uh the emissions is 11.7% of the FCC maximum. There are no nodes

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within 150 ft. There is one node within 500 ft. And this is near the Brain Tree Pass Path Trail Head. There's a It's kind of a parking lot there that there's an existing pole with a sign on it. So, it's really not uh anywhere near

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residential structures. Note 7. It's located near 681 Hillside Street. Uh this is an existing utility pole we'll be using. It's a top-mounted antenna proposal. Uh this is

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near the I think it's the DCR parking garage or uh not parking garage some sort of mechanical garage. Uh the emissions from this one would be 17.8%. There are no nodes within 150 ft or 500

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ft. There are no residences nearby. Um and there are no other poles in the entire search area that AT&T could use. Note 8, it's located there, 848 Hillside Street.

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Just likewise, we can use the existing utility pole there. This will be a sidemounted antenna proposal. The emissions is 35.19% of the FCC maximum. There are no nodes within 150 ft or 500 ft. No nearby

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residential structures. Um likewise there's there are no other poles within 500 ft of the search area. Pole n uh node 9 is a replacement pole and there's 650

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Rolph Avenue. Uh it's pole 269. This will be a sidemounted antenna. Emissions here would be 29% of the FCC maximum. Uh there are no nodes within 150 ft, but there is one node within 500 ft of the proposal. This one is somewhat close to a

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residential structure. It's about 30 ft away. Um is a structural report. Uh as I said, it will comply with the FCC requirements. There are other poles in the area. Uh this was the preferred poll by AT&T

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uh for the proposed coverage. Node 10 is 8 is near 800 Hillside Avenue, Hillside Street. This is an existing utility pole. This likewise will be a sidemounted antenna. Emissions will be 37.8%.

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There are no nodes within 150 ft. No nodes within 500 ft. Uh there are no nearby residential structures. Uh this is kind of out there by the DCR property. So that's one through 10. Uh they're best identified by address. Uh

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as I said, it's a mix of existing and replacement polls. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions or have folks online provide responses. >> Thank you from the members. >> So my question is what would you

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articulate is the purpose and need of this project? How how is it going to improve the quality of service for the residents of this town?

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>> Sure. There's a lot of articulation of AT&T's project, but um you know, typically in infrastructure projects, we discuss purpose and need. So, thought you could do a little bit more there. >> Yep. Can we do can we pull up Do you have the maps? Do you have our

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application materials? >> I do. I have the coverage map. >> Coverage maps. Sure. And I do think that um sometimes in the in the area impacted some of these locations that sell service can be spotty. But I think it would be

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>> I think it would be good to see the data on it. >> Can you see if Kevin Brewer is also >> So I'll run through first. As I mentioned, we're looking to improve AT&T services. This is just going to be for AT&T. it's not, you know, for any of our

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competitors. So, if you take a look up at the map behind you, this is the current AT&T coverage in this area in Milton. The little I think they're blue stars are the proposed node locations.

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And you can see uh you probably can't see, but what we're looking to get is green and blue so that we can get green is the best coverage AT&T has available. I don't know if everybody can see it, but there's a little chart on the lower left hand corner talks about high

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connectivity uh module connectivity and poor and it's all it's all colorcoded. So, we're looking for green and blue would be best. Obviously, you'll be able to make call place calls, retain a call, but this is what AT&T's existing coverage looks

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like. >> Can we flip to the next one? >> So, if you keep an eye >> just one second, let me do my best uh weather man here. So you say this general area >> down in the area of uh marginal >> correct if it's that pinkish >> pinkish area

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>> y pinkish gray is pretty much no coverage um and we're looking to get blues and greens are ideal as you'll see in the surrounding areas you got lots of green you know blue spillover so with these small cell nodes you're going to

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get you know maybe a third maybe out to a half a mile uh radius for coverage. If you could flip to the next shot, you'll see that green, blue will light up where those stars are. Yep.

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>> So, that's the enhancements you'll get from the AT&T Cub with these nodes. I think there's one node there. I think there's 11 stars on the map, which was pointed out to us. Uh that top star kind of where the goop is kind of there, there kind of

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right in the middle. Uh that's to know that they're still looking for a a location. >> So obviously a lot of these are along Hillside which does abut DCR and Blue Hills. Are you is there a response to a request from DCR or others for coverage in the Blue Hills?

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>> No, but I think it's just a matter of AT&T's not getting adequate coverage. It could be a ser it could be just network issues. It could be customer complaints. could be I mean DCR may have you know we do do business with DCR but I'm not aware of anything in particular as I

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said Kevin Brewer is on if there are particular questions about AT&T's network he's the design engineer so if you recall you had a lot of sort of pink orange and it'll all light up the screen

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>> thank you uh just to um first is How do you arrive at 10? I mean, I saw the yellow just interested the math. I mean, the last time I wasn't here, but >> the last applicant I think needed to

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just try and understand um you know the the math there. >> Yeah. So, that it's mostly a matter of budget. Uh we could use thousands of sites throughout thousands of sites throughout New England. Uh probably thousands of site

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mass sites in Massachusetts. There's limited capital, limited budgets. Uh when they get released, they have areas that they try, you know, to get coverage in. You know, Milton is, you know, tough for big cell towers, tall buildings. There's not going to be

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a lot of opportunities for collocation, where you see the big, you know, monoples, etc. So, the idea was get the coverage where, you know, the network is demanding it, where people are demanding it. Uh they monitor the network all the time to see where the down spots are. um

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you know fortunately you got 10 nodes I mean that's pretty big budget move now we as I said we did have a we do have a dash system the distributed antenna system which we'll be moving off so that we can provide our AT&T provide its own coverage so um you

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know it's not a shared issue it'll be AT&T stuff in particular 10 is a lot of nodes for for for one go these days so you know it's it's a capital outlay for AT&T for sure. >> And second, thanks. Um, from a health

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perspective, this is in part because of a resident's comment tonight, but also, you know, typically this is a question that comes up is regarding the emissions. Um, just could you just help me better understand when's that tested?

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You know, you listed kind of the percentage of FCC um, max, you know, commit like how do we know it will remain that percentage as this goes on. >> So they're not tested. These are all by calculation because they're so low

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testing is not required. Uh we have to meet the FCC requirements. Uh as I said we are I think the highest one was at about 39%. But that's exclusive jurisdiction of the FCC. It's uh you know not something that could take be taken into consideration

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as long as we comply. Um there's no testing requirement that they be done but the physics dictate you know what the percentage would be. These are worst case numbers as you'll see in the report that we provided and we do have our you know expert here if you want to have you know any particular questions

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>> just I think you're giving me too much credit with my question but just just even to understand like how how are you able to represent those numbers and it must be how the node is developed or something to you know be comfortable that that's the emission percentage

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>> it's an FCC formula it's straight up from you know all of the electrical engineers that provide the FCC with guidance. Um, if you want details, I can have Don come on and just explain how the calculations are done, but you know, it's just pure math. The, you know,

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electrical power goes in, comes out of the antenna, and, you know, they can only produce so much. So, we take it as though it's operating 247 full power. That's not likely to happen. If you have an antenna outside and it's perfect that you're standing right in the line of the

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antenna, you might, you know, get to those percentages, but as soon as you're inside a building or behind a tree, it all dissipates off quickly. >> Is Don on? >> Don is on. >> I I don't have Don H. Don. >> It's a question that comes up, so I think it' be worth it. >> We get all the time.

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>> That's why we bring him. >> You have Don Hayes? >> Uh, yes. I just uh requested that he join the meeting and he is now. >> I'm happy to repeat the question too. >> I think let's hope Don if there's anything they'd like to add

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>> for Don. Uh Mr. Brewer, we see you in here as well as Mr. Hayes. If either of you have something you would like to add to the conversation or to answer the question as as put forth. >> Uh good evening, Don Hayes here. Good evening, sir. I

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>> I just wanted to say thank you for promoting me to a panelist. I I I feel honored. Uh so I I don't want to get into a lot of detail about these um uh calculations, but

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uh Mr. Perry was correct. The the FCC does dictate uh the formulas on how to prepare the calculations. what what they don't provide exact details on is to how to make sure that you have uh done the

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calculations that'll include the highest uh emissions possible. And so uh if you look through my report, you'll see that uh there are several assumptions that I make. uh the first being uh that the

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site is in 100% uh operation 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Uh the second thing I assume is that there is no degradation of signal due to ambient conditions such as fog, rain,

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weather, leaves, foliage, uh airplanes, uh drones, whatever else you may have in the air. Uh that doesn't affect the signal at all. Uh the third thing and it sounds kind of silly uh but I do not

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assume that the earth curves and uh that does make a difference if you're a radio engineer but if you're living in a neighborhood that doesn't make a difference at all and so uh I assume that the earth doesn't curve and so the

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antenna is not actually higher the further away you get. Uh the fourth thing I do is I make sure that I assume that the ground is a perfect mirror for the waves. So in other words, as one

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wave comes in and it bounces perfectly off the ground such that as it's coming back up, another wave is coming down and combines with it absolutely perfectly.

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Uh will that happen in nature? No. Uh but I assume it does. Uh and then the last thing I do is is I look at the uh topography. And so if you look at the uh

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all the pictures following the nodes in my report, I show you a uh USGS survey map of the to south and east to west uh adsmouth as you look down from the site

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and any deviation from zero uh elevation uh I make into account and so that's why there was a lot of variability uh in these calculations. Uh it's not

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only the antenna that is in some highs and lows, but it's also the fact that you're getting away from the antenna but closer to the main beam. And in some cases, because of topography, you're

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actually getting into the be main beam much earlier. Um, I hope that answers your questions and if you have any further, I can go into a lot more details if you need me to. >> Um, thank you, Don. Um, you lost me a

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little on the the curved earth part, but I I think I understand enough of it and I and I appreciate it. Thanks. >> Kevin, did you want to add anything from from the coverage perspective? yellow.

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>> Yeah. So, the the goal was to basically replace the the DAS coverage, but also enhance it. Um, the DAS is over I think it's two decades old old and was pretty much designed for u mobile cell phone

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use like in vehicles and and nowadays that's the one of the most limited places people use their phone. So, um, this design utilizes, you know, the same node count, but, uh, in a

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way that enhances people's coverage. >> Do you have any numbers on how many residents you expect to be impacted? >> Kevin, you have any population counts? >> Um, no. Actually, population isn't isn't something that I I look at too much. I I

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have um user um data that that shows how frequently uh phone use occurs and what the payload might be for certain customers or you know and where they travel. And so the

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design kind of focuses on that. um you know where where we see the most coverage or I'm sorry where we see the most uh potential for traffic uh phone traffic is um kind of the spots in which

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we hit um we place these nodes >> and you seem to be hitting up uh you got a number of sites on hillside. There was a question about the trails and DCR property there. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you know AT&T provides

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service for FirstNet um and and which is uh you know basically is a first responder network um and you know that the hiking trails and and

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um you know woodsy areas are places in which typically we've had I think the industry as a whole has had rather poor coverage. So, this addresses some of that. Um, obviously, we we can't get too

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far off the uh the right away because we don't have poles and power or fiber. Um, but this is an attempt to hit that. Um, we also do see a lot of traffic that is generated from uh those areas along hillside. So, um, not only does it

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improve what first responders would see, it improves what the general customer would get as well. And, uh, you know, even if you weren't an AT&T customer, should you place an an 911 call in this area, um, you would connect to us and

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and, you know, be able to talk to somebody. >> Um, couple questions. how just how did you arrive at 10? Um what are the differences if it's five or if it's

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four? Um so these small cells range in about a third to a half mile radius and that that's like under ideal conditions. So, um, to cover the length of roadways that we

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we're looking at here, um, you know, I I've stretched these out as far as I can, um, to minimize the cell count, but 10 was, uh, was the node count that we're replacing from the DA. So, uh,

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AT&T had figured that this is my starting budget and I did my job to try to design it with that while also improving things as much as I could. >> So, if if we had half of it, you would

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uh probably drop every half mile >> or not be able to connect uh in those areas. >> Well, that would depend on where you put them, right? because there are there are a few that are clustered. >> Well, Dick, so if I could have spaced

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them out further, I I would have um you know, with poles being 25 to 35 ft. Um a small deviation in ground elevation between the two poles

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can create little gaps. Um so if I had any less number of nodes I would actually have coverage holes that were developed. >> Just one on on the 10. Uh how does the coordination work for installing that

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number of nodes? Is that instantaneously? Is it over a period of time? And how do you map that out and coordinate with Eversource and other folks? >> So Eversource will prepare what's called make ready work. So for any of the existing or replacement poles, there are

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wires on stuff already. Typically, we don't use poles. We can't use poles for transformers. So Eversource will go in replace the pole or start, you know, do we we'd go in and start doing our installation on existing poles. I expect these will all go, you know, once we get

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permitted and approvals, you know, six months. Uh but I expect all of them will go in in short order. Um, some of it depends on Eversource, moving wires, moving equipment, there may be town equipment on certain poles and the make

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ready work is expensive and it's a headache. So, sometimes they take time if there's a cable company on or, you know, something else on the pole, some kind of alarm system. All of those people have to be sequenced, you know, move to the new pole. Existing is a lot easier. Eversource is going to bring us

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power and we need a fiber provider to bring us fiber. So those are for the existing polls that's usually the thing that takes the longest. So it can take some time. It always takes time. >> Um my question is on the operations and

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maintenance regime for the equipment that's out there. Um it seems pretty complicated. You're on a structure that belongs to Eversource and there may be other devices on there. Can you speak to how

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how you maintain the equipment? Um how do residents of the town contact um the company to report faulty equipment? Also to contextually there

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um this is an area that has seen a growing number of wildfires over the summer. Um, so that that's my main my main question is what are the processes and procedures

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and how how can we work together to make sure that these are safe? >> Well, each each node will have a sign on it a small tag that has an 800 number to AT&T's we call it the knock network operation center. Uh each of the nodes

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every AT&T site is monitored 247 at that location. uh if there's a power outage or a malfunction of equipment, they get noticed, they can remotely shut the unit off. If a pole is damaged, we work with public safety. We can shut the equipment

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off, but we know something has occurred back at the network operation center. Once it's installed and they get the bugs out and connected to the network, there's not a lot of maintenance. It's all electronic equipment. We don't have fans. So, I I know there's a comment about noise. This is just all

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electronics. It's not going to make any noise. Uh, you know, early on some of the dash systems and some of the small cells had cooling fans inside. So, you'd hear, you know, the unit go on. Uh, this is all passive passively cooled now. Uh,

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so you don't have that. So, there's no mechanicals to generate noise. If something goes wrong with them, the number is there. You call the knock, call the town. Um, I don't know if Milton is a first

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uh FirstNet subscriber, but uh AT&T has a pretty good relationship with public safety. And as Kevin mentioned, we have that FirstNet system that we provide priority and preemptive coverage for first responders. So if something like

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that were to happen in network, it's, you know, jammed up because of a wildfire, because of some kind of emergency, first responders get first dibs on the spectrum. So the commercial and personal coverage is going to get shut off so that first responders can

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can deal with the the issue first. >> Not shut off, but reduced. >> Shut up. Reduced. Uh problem is when cars hit those poles. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot of network. There's a lot of stuff, a lot of wires and everything.

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It could take almost a year to get everything transferred over. I'm just I witnessed that on Randolph F. They have brand new poles and like a month down the road someone could take a brand new pole and take it right off.

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It's not like no one's trying, but it takes a long time to get it back up and running. I'd like to know what the insurance companies think of all this high wage because eventually it costs all of us money. Uh but you said none of this new m machinery makes noises,

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>> right? There are no cooling fans. It's not mechanical stuff. >> Friend on Hillside Street should call me today and let me know the one outside her house does make humming noise and stuff. >> Well, it's electronic equipment. It's going >> But this isn't going to be one of them. >> If the electronic equipment hums,

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there'll be a humming noise. if you walk up close to it, but there's no mechanical parts. There's no cooling fans. That's usually the complaint about noise. If you walk by them, you're going to hear a hum like you walk by your television or anything else, a computer, etc., but no fans. >> Make a little noise. >> Humming. Correct.

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>> What is it? What would be paying the town in taxes for these new devices? >> You know, >> uh, you know, it's a good question. I don't I don't know if we're taxed. Uh, there is a provision under the, uh, statute for the town to collect a fee.

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Um, I think it's $270 a year is the reasonable fee that's allowed, but that's I we haven't had discussions with the town about that yet. >> Thank you. >> Eversource is our landlord. >> Oh, so you're paying them? >> We do pay them. >> They're paying the town

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>> and they replace the polls >> at our expense. >> Thank you. You're welcome. I think we may have more questions, but I did want to just leave it for public comment right now. Um, sir, before Mr. Before you go, I just want to enter

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again our legal language. So, we're not covered here. All right. Uh, we expect to set aside a minimum of 20 minutes for public hearing on today's agenda and we'll continue um if need be to the next hearing. So, Mr. Hz, if you would approach. So, we're open for

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public public comment. Uh yes, I have uh two questions. Um one is for the um for Mr. Perry and that is one is for the um node number two. The description for 428 Hillside Street

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explicitly makes a reference to the Summer Street site. This is not the Summer Street site. This is the Hillside Street site. Right. >> Do you plan to correct that? I I don't know whether the error is if it's in the narrative. I don't think we have

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>> I don't think we have a need to see it. >> It's in the narrative. Yeah. >> We can correct it. We can amend it, but it's it's the plans that are going to govern. >> So So you may or may not correct it. >> Well, I can I mean, if if the select board wants it corrected, we'll correct it.

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>> Um would the select board plan to insist on that correction is my question. >> I think we'll have that discussion once you you finish your comments. just just to be careful. This is not in uh intended for this to be sort of a back and forth between the both of us. Is that I think sir you can share your comments and you can respond to me.

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>> Yeah. My second um comment is um for the past 45 years I have done um most of the trash pickup along the entire length of Hillside Street all the way from uh Chikatab all the way to Randolph Avenue

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um approximately every three weeks. And the three worst offenders are fast food places, liquor places, and number three is public utilities. Um so the utility crews when they come out and make a major change um they typically just

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discard all the crap along the side of the road that they don't want or that they um don't need anymore. And that can include anything from um the guywires uh heavy duty guywires,

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the fixtures that um the the guy wires attached to which weigh about 15 pounds a piece. Um um we had a um two of the wires were hit by lightning um maybe three years ago and so it fried all the rubber

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insulation and all that was discarded by the the uh source at the side of the road. So, um I would hope that the select board would insist that um that the cleanup crews uh clean up all the um

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all the material that's left over from the um you know from these uh 10 cell phone installations. Those are my comments. Thank you. Appreciate it. Uh Mr. Milano, I will

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Are there any questions from members? Can I just just to hit on the Summer Street? I did I did take a look at my application. I do see that Summer Street. Sumar Street is referenced in the Hillside Street. So Hill Sumner on page seven of my narrative should be

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Hillside. If the board would amend that we could deal with that right out of the box. >> Um Mr. Milano, I will uh come to you to ask a few questions of how you see this. One question is uh what are our options in terms of

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numbers? Um could we ask for fewer than 10 to be built? Uh uh are we in good standing to ask for the language to be cleaned with all of the typos before we move forward as this is a legal document?

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And are there any other amendments that we would be able to make before taking a vote on this either at this meeting or future meeting? >> On both of those, I'd want to circle back and and provide the board an answer. So, if the board's looking to

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finalize that, I'd recommend continuing to June 9th and we can um take any additional comments that are received in that intervening time span and I can provide you follow up on both of those. I would in reading um the Sumner Street typo, I I I read this typo as well because it's referencing how many feet

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um the poll is from the nearest house and and there's a measurement included and that is all clearly um typographical. Um and as Mr. Perry noted that the plans are what holds. Um what we have not done and and what we would typically do back following a hearing would be just to have council review the

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orders. Um but if the board is inclined to um continue the hearing then I could have council review all the grants of location um any tweaks or or recommendations they may have in the intervening time period. Generally um the applicant and us are on the same

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page about that language. But that's another thing that we could also have wrapped up by the 9th >> members still in public comment if you'd like. >> The last question. >> So I just wanted to know like

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Does Milton get it? I think he said it, but I wasn't sure. Does Milton get something out of them putting science coverage? Do they get Do we get get money? >> I think you're speaking to the fees that we have with

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>> No, I get you're billions company. >> Is annual fee that's been referenced. The tax question I I believe that's just the large cell installations that are taxable depending on um who the landlord is. Um, so the small cells, I don't have an answer on that question right here, but I don't believe so. But I can verify

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with the assessor's office. >> Ask for more money. >> We can ask for something out of it. I mean, I don't know. Like I >> I think to your point about asking that would require some form of precedent. If that's not the president or the standard

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agreements, we would not have much that we could say there. It's a good point. Thoughts from the members on continuing or voting tonight? >> My my opinion is that we should move to

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continue the conversation and get some more information on the application. >> Do you need something more from me or are you talking about internal? I mean, I'm happy to provide whatever the board wants, obviously, but would you say more

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information for >> Mr. Milano also mentioned that we would need to have our town council review? >> Oh, sure. >> I I on that generally, I would have the board approve it subject to council's review, but in this case, we can reverse that order if we're we're buying additional two weeks. So,

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>> yep. >> So, would you want to close the evidentiary portion and move towards or we can move to continue? You can make that motion. Um, I would like to move to close the evidentiary portion.

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>> I would suggest the board leave the hearing open in case additional questions or comments are raised that the board may want to consider as part of its deliberations >> and so you can continue the hearing. >> We haven't done this before in the time that I've been on the board. This is a new one.

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>> Okay. So, I would move to continue uh the public hearing on June 9th, 2026. >> Motion made and seconded. >> We do need a time specific though, not to jump in here, but it should be a date and time specific. >> Uh June 9th. >> June 9th, 2026.

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>> At 7 p.m. >> What is it? >> 7 p.m. >> Yes. >> Okay. Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. So >> yes, >> yes. >> And yes for myself. >> Thank you all. >> Is it clear?

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>> Thank you. Is it clear what the follow >> Yeah. I have my homework and then if members have any questions, feel free to reach out in the meantime and I'll I'll in the time in between we can add any questions we may search.

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Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Thank you, Mr. Brewer. Mr. Hayes. >> All right. Move to a much simpler portion. We'll move to item six. Presentation by mascot regarding Randolph A Route 28

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road diet pilot. >> Mr. Dailyy, I'm going to recuse myself and this agenda item. >> Don't go home. >> Uh move quickly through the background. Maybe a long long agenda today. >> I'll just say I mean it's an important

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topic so don't feel like you need to. We have a presentation. So, usually just takes a minute to join and get sure. I thought I saw something flash up, but I don't see an option to share.

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Am I showing as a panel? I don't think I don't know if we have access to share. >> I don't see >> I think I Oh, wait. Sorry. Did you drop? Try again. answer. >> No, sorry.

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>> Unless I have a question answer. Okay, there we go. >> All right. Well, thanks for having us back. Happy to be here talking about Route 28 Randolph Avenue, the pilot road diet. Um, we will go ever so briefly through an introduction of why we did

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this, why we removed lanes from Route 28, um, review the project timeline, the work to date, um, remind folks what's out there. We'll recap the community feedback, and then we'll go over our evaluation of the pilot. So, we've at this point taken data before and after

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and been able to quantify the safety, the delay, the other things that we said we would use to measure it. And so, that's the main point of coming coming here today. So, the reason we did this, this is a a schematic of Route 28 before with two lanes in each direction. Um, due to the

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crash history along the corridor, which really came up during the public process for the Chikataba roundabout project, um, some pretty horrible crashes along the corridor and then ongoing calls for improving safety. Uh we made the decision over the summer to pilot a a

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lane removal. So that's what we usually call a road diet with the goal of reducing these fatal and serious injury crashes that we're seeing on this part of the road. Um and then also reducing speeds and conflicts. Just want to say this piece up front. Um

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this was always separate from the intersection project and so the Chikatabitet road roundabout project is still moving forward. Um that contract was actually awarded and they're working through kind of the the contract process so that the contractor can get an NTP.

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So the project the roundabout project is not going to experience any sort of delay. Um it'll just be adjusted to incorporate the road diet results which I weirdly buried that lead. Um we generally consider this to be uh

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successful and so um route 28 will remain as is now and we're going to talk through why. So the roundabout project will be adjusted um to match into the cross-section that you're seeing out there today. So the timeline um we started talking

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about this in the summer. We grabbed pre-pilot data collection. So, uh, speeds and volumes on Route 28 and then also some of the roads that we expected to be impacted by the lane diet or sorry, the road diet, the lane removal. Um, generally we consider the road diet

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to have been in place by Columbus State weekend. There were adjustments made throughout. Um, so we were welcoming feedback from the public and then also making adjustments as traffic settled in and changed. So, we have a map about kind of all the changes that we did

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during this pilot period. Uh we attended a listening session held by the state legislators in December. In April, things seemed to have settled down from a traffic standpoint. People were making their decisions now that they knew that Route 28 was going to have less capacity. And so we took speeds and

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volumes at all the same locations as before in addition to a few more so that we had something to compare to. Um and then that says May, but it was this week maybe middle of last week. Um I would say the the final touch of the pilot was the removal of flex posts between

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Pleasant and Reed Streets. We got a lot of feedback from residents about their access and the challenges at the with U-turns at Reed Street. Um and so we compared that against the safety payoff and decided to remove those flex flows and put in the two-way left turn lane more consistent with most of the

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cross-section of this part of Route 28. Throughout we've been meeting with the town um including meetings with police and fire to make sure that response times were not impacted by the removal of the lanes. Uh we coordinated with Rockton area transit and reached out to

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the tea to make sure that the buses that run along this road um were not impacting residents outside of Milton as well. And then we meet with DCR as the owners of Chikatabitet for coordination on the road diet and other things that

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they have going on. Some pictures of the current configuration in case people did not drive on this road on the way here. Oh. >> Oh yeah. Oh, that's it. It's really nice looking. And those are good pictures. So I thought we should hold the slide for

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longer. uh community fair enough community feedback. So we showed some version of this slide at the listening session I think and um we've been receiving comments from the project email and phone calls and other ways. Um

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a lot of people say it's safer, slower, quieter to use. Um, a lot of our kind of repeat comments, people who were really having a hard time with it were related to the the traffic. Um, the U-turns access, um, but sort of tied in second

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with the increased traffic was people saying that they were supportive of it and thanking thanking us for taking action to try to make it safer. So, kind of an array of comments. Um, and we sort of tried to group it by tone. on the next slide.

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And so by the end we had 37% so most people saying that this was a positive thing. Um a similar ratio 34% of people thought it was negative. They did not like the delays and travel times. Some people saw the saw the benefits but didn't like taking longer to get places.

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That's our both. And then 17% we shade as light gray, light green. Um because I think that's if you remove lanes like this from a road and people feel like they're indifferent to it, for us that's sort of a vote, a vote for safety. So this is how the tone of the feedback

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landed. >> I hate to interrupt. >> Yeah. >> Prior slide could have could be good or bad just by subject matter. And then this slide is >> accounting for all those comments. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So this is more about topic. >> Yeah. So, and we reviewed and responded

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to all of them and some of them were about like a request for signal timing, right? So, um I don't know which ones you would consider to be neutral. I mean, um probably some of the others um honestly um or just a lot of the some

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folks were just writing in with a specific question where there really was no tone positive or negative. They just had a clarifying question. We would group that in neutral and different. >> Got it. So, we coordinated with the BAT to put a question into their um customer service

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survey that they put out in the spring just to to try to get some feedback from the neighboring communities and 60% of people felt like this didn't impact their bus rides. 22% liked it and then 18% were negative. So, sort of a similar

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almost 50/50 split from the riders at the back. Just looking at the corridor now, we've tried to map out the changes that we made throughout this um with some timing or times associated with them. So in November, that's when we went out, did

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observations, um tweaked with the signal timing to to see if the side street needed more time, if Route 28 did, um how things were changing with traffic. So in November, Reeddale, Reed, and Chikatabitet were adjusted. Um in May, that was our bigger

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change with the flex post removal like I mentioned between Pleasant and Reed. And then do not block the box markings at Ridgewood. now that the cues sometimes are extending. That was a a comment that we got. So, we had our favorite market contractor out and that should have gone

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in. Um, and then the really notable one in December, sorry, it's on the bottom of the screen, so that's out of order. Um, the town of Milton establishing the no left turn onto Highland um restriction is a response to the cut through traffic that was in the Clifton Road neighborhood that we heard a lot

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about at the listening session. Um, and we were able to take data in that area and I think that measure was um, fairly successful at least by what we're seeing. I'll hand you off to Jessica to go through the pilot evaluation.

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Thanks. Um, for the pilot evaluation, we looked at a variety of criteria, but the most important ones to us were the safety focus criteria. So we looked at the trends that we are seeing in safety and speed. Um since the main goal of the pilot was to reduce the likelihood of

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fatal injury or serious injury crashes. Um we also measured traffic along Route 28 and some of the adjacent and intersecting roadways. Um we took a look at the intersection traffic operations and travel times along 28. um

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coordinated with the transit agencies to understand impact of transit um which was you know covered in the ridership survey. Um we also met with you know the town including emergency access to consider any impacts to access as well

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as um the ab butter access. For the pilot evaluations we did several field visits. um those are listed on the screen. Um so we collected data before the pilot road diet was in place and then at a couple points during the pilot

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so in November um as well as in April um and kind of what what we used as you know kind of our final pilot measurements that you'll see throughout here were um the April 8th and 11th dates. Um, in addition to some of the on

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the ground field information, we also utilize some continuous data sources. So, for speed data, we utilize the speed feedback signs that are along the corridor. Um, as well as some anonymized GPS probe data that gave us speed and

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travel time along the corridor. Um, and those vary slightly because the speed feedback signs are capturing information of vehicles passing by these specific points. Um, whereas the probe data is more of like a corridor wide data. Um,

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so they but they're both in collecting throughout the pilot. So they gave some interesting um data sets. And then we also looked at crashes. So, we looked at crashes um for the same six-month time period that the pilot was in place for

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years leading up to the pilot, excluding the COVID impacted years. Um, and then we looked at the six months that the pilot was in place um and that crash history. So, Kayla mentioned that we collected

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traffic counts. Um, in blue are all of the count locations that we got both before the pilot was in place and then when it was in place. And then we mentioned we added a couple more locations just based on some areas of concern. That's what's shown in red. Um,

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so we added some additional pilot count locations just to help complete our picture of the data. Um, and this just lists them all that are shown on the figure. For safety data, one of the things we

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were looking at was conflict points. Um, conflict points provide a nice um, reference of impact to safety because, um, the number and type of conflict points can influence how likely a crash is to occur. Um and so with the change

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in design that the road diet brought um we were able to significantly reduce conflict points um by 31% along the corridor which helps reduce the likelihood that a crash will occur. Um so I mentioned that we collected the

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crash data throughout the pilot. Um so that was about six months of data. Six months is not enough time to be statistically significant. We usually like multiple years of data because there's natural variation. That's why we

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don't present exact numbers here. Um but we did look at it to understand what trends it's showing. Um and it is in line with what we would expect and it's trending in the direction that we want to see. Um, so this pie chart just shows the portion of crashes before the pilot

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was in place that resulted in injury and then the proportion of crashes with the pilot in place. And you can see that the injury the amount of crashes that resulted in injury decreased significantly. Um, which is in line with what we were anticipating based on the

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design and in line with that reduction of conflict points. Along with that, we took a look at the other trends of what are the crash types. Um, and the different crash types tend to result in different severities depending on the type. And before the

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pilot was put in place, the most common crash type was an angle crash. Those tend to be more severe, like your right angle collisions. Um, once the pilot was put in place, the angle crashes reduced significantly. you can see in blue. Um,

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and then rear ends did increase to become the most predominant crash type, which is generally in line with what we would expect as we are reducing conflict points but increasing the level of traffic congestion on the corridor.

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We also wanted to understand the impact that the pilot had on vehicle speeds. Um, the reason we care about speed so much is that they can increase or decrease the um, likelihood that a crash would result in an injury. Um, the

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slower a vehicle is going, the better their field of vision is and the less time you would need to react to something unexpected in the roadway. Looking at the information from the speed feedback signs um for weekdays,

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the average speed decreased by 3 miles an hour following the pilot and the 85th percentile speed decreased by 5 miles an hour. Um so that's just averaging the information from those um select speed feedback sign locations. When we looked

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at the corridor wide probe data, um it showed a slightly larger decrease with the average speed decreasing 6 to 8 miles an hour and the 85th percentile speed decreasing 7 to 8 miles an hour. We also wanted to map that out though to

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show that the speed reduction was not just during the peak time period. So, we knew that we were going to be increasing traffic congestion and we wanted to make sure that we're not seeing uh you know speed decrease during the times of congestion and then an increase outside

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of those times. So, the dotted line represents pre-pilot data and the solid line represents pilot data. And you can see that there's a pretty consistent decrease. Um this is northbound from the speed feedback

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and here's southbound. it follows a pretty similar decrease throughout the day. And then looking at the same charts, but with the probe data, the probe data does show a more significant drop in speed during those AM and PM

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times shown in the green there. You can see that speeds get pretty low from congestion. Um, but that the preverse postpilot decrease is pretty consistent. That's southbound. We wanted to measure the traffic counts

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along route 28 to understand what type of traffic diversion we might be seeing. Um so as we're reducing the number of lanes on route 28, you know, is is the traffic going to shift somewhere inappropriate um where there might be

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safety issues. Um and generally looking at the data across the roadways, the trends we saw were that um as anticipated the land reductions lowered volumes on Route 28. Um it also lowered volumes on the majority of intersecting roadways as capacity was reduced. Um

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there were some localized increases in traffic volume observed on Reed Street traveling westbound, Halen Avenue traveling eastbound, and Reeddale Road traveling westbound. on Halen Avenue. That's in an area where there's turn

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restrictions. Um, and generally what we saw was a decrease in Halen Avenue departing Route 28 where turns are now restricted. Um, and uh an increase on Reed Street,

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sorry, where turns may be shifting to. Um, we mentioned previously that the town of Milton put in turn restrictions along the Clifton, Martin, Buckingham, Spafford Road area um to reduce cut through traffic. And the information

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that we collected from these areas seem to support that that's been an effective treatment at um reducing the amount of cut through that those neighborhoods were experiencing. Um so our general takeaways from this was that um route 28 traffic shifted uh

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but we didn't see any significant shifts to local roads um that would indicate a safety concern and that the diverted traffic likely re redistributed across the network um or utilized the highway system

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on route 28. Um I mentioned that there was a drop in volume. This slide just shows the various locations along the corridor that were measured um and the change in volume. So, it ranged anywhere from about 3,000 vehicles per day to

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5,000 vehicles per day less um with the lane reduction in place. And then the next few slides map out the change in volume um along the corridor. And so blue represents a reduction. Um

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the darker the blue, the more the reduction. Red represents an increase in volume with um you know the larger the increase um the darker the red. The purple represents roadways that experienced a change of less than 100

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vehicles per day. So a quite low um change in volume. Um and so as I had mentioned on the previous slide um the there are directions of Howland Reed and Reale that did see an increase but otherwise

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the area stayed steady or saw decreases and then moving south through the sorry that skipped slide moving south through the corridor. Um we did not see any increases in the before after traffic counts collected

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through this area. Um we did see some moderate decreases um in one direction on Hillside Street on Chikataba Road. We also wanted to collect some of the adjacent corridors that don't

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necessarily intersect but might be used as alternate routes. Um, and generally we didn't see any, you know, increase or decreases too significant here, but we did see some moderate increases on Canton A um, and

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directionally on Blue Hills Parkway and Enquitty of about 1 to 300 vehicles per day. Um, we collected travel times in um, September before the pilot was in place. um early into the pilot in November and

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then later into the pilot in April. Um generally we saw that travel times increased with the pilot in place. Um we also looked at probe data. Um so looking at the months of September,

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November and April um and similarly it showed an increase in um travel time along Route 28 with the road diet. for feedback on access um through our meetings with um the town and emergency

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services. Um you know, we were basically heard no adverse impacts have been made to response times. Um feedback we've received is that, you know, turning has been safer um with the turn lanes in place and to turn against a single lane

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of traffic. However, it can be more difficult to find a gap during peak hours to turn. Um, so sometimes it takes longer but feels simpler. Um, challenges with the U-turns at Reeddale Road and Reed Street were something that we heard

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um, a lot in the early pilot days. Um, and we've mitigated that with the recent flex post removal between Reed Street and Pleasant Street, which removes the need for those um, two U-turns that were

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previously reported to be difficult. So with all of those findings, we deemed the pilot successful based on the positive safety trends, the reduction in conflict points, the reduction in vehicle speed, um the side street access improvement. We were able to mitigate

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the access concerns that we heard for driveways. Um the diversion activity measured was manageable. Um and there were no concerns reported from the emergency responders. Um so with that um

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we considered that this was successful and the impacts to traffic operations and travel times were ones that we had anticipated um but consider acceptable to achieve the safety goals of the pilot of the reduced injury

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um likelihood. And um as Kila mentioned earlier, the route 20 at Chicatab roundabout will be adjusted to reflect the um road diet pilot. >> That's all we have. >> Yeah,

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>> we can go back to anything. That's why it's a lot of data and information. >> Thank you. Um I'll do comments from the members first. I think we have some residents here who may have some things they want to say. Okay. So, while we did not have public comment on the schedule for this, I will open up for public

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public comment for about 90 seconds each. If that's okay from the members, >> ladies, I live that road. It's dramatically better. It's very successful and I've heard from a lot of people they love it. And you

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did move the flex pipes in front of my driveway. Didn't bother me. bothered my son and daughter more than anything. I'm sure you heard from my daughter, but uh it's just been a far cry different road. You got to deal with traffic. I

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understand that. And uh just a safer road that night when those three individuals got killed. I I didn't see it happen but I came upon it and uh in memory of them this turned out to be a successful

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for the three people that lost their lives credited this is the end result. Thank you. Um I have a list. Um maybe I'll do a few and then let you guys go and then do

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mine. Um my preamble is um just overall agree with what John said. Um what I've been hearing has been due to the safety improvements um it's a difficult project but due to

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the safety impacts feeling in town is majority mostly positive um that's not an easy thing to walk away with a project like this um you know I commend your team's prof professionalism

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um in rolling this out um so and I also just wanted you know I think the select board last year um you know did a great job um responding to residents along the way. So that's a credit to Winston and John and Ben and Richard. Um so so that

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just putting that out there just a couple questions. Um just just on the I just want to flesh out where we're at on the cut through topic right now. Um, to me that's sort of the last lingering piece where we can bring this from like

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a whatever a B+ to an A or an A minus to an A. I don't know. Um, and I saw the data. So, I'm just trying to kind of understand what window is left here to kind of leverage your guys resources and expertise to sort of partner

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strategically to think about some of those last few areas. Um, you know, Canton comes to mind. Um, I'm surprised by the numbers on on Hillside, but um, just maybe we just just talk, maybe not focus on a particular street at the

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moment, but where do you guys feel like we're at at the process in terms of trying things out to make sure we're maximizing those situations? um you know a few ideas residents have asked about

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is I mean I saw the the November um signal you know timing there. So do you feel for that like have you sort of exhausted what you could do there to help with traffic? Is there more you can kind of keep thinking about to test things out to you know continue to keep

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an eye on maybe trying to drop those numbers a little bit more on the cut through? Um, so just if you could just speak to where you're at on cutthroughs and thinking about it and if there's remaining window just to try to make the most of those situations.

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>> Sure. >> I'll go first and then maybe you could speak to whether or not we feel like through timing we've maximized everything. >> I mean, we're still here so there's not really a window. Um we won't be monitoring this quite as closely as we have been over the past few months, but of course it's something we're still

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going to check in on um monitor through our pro data and see how things change and then happy to take you know support the town through data collection. We grab the traffic counts at Canton. You know, we do have on call consultants to to check signal timing at some of the intersections that weren't right in our

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scope but seemed to be impacted. And so the the challenge with like the state coming in and helping with implementation of mitigation is just that we don't actually own the roads that the diversion is sometimes happening on. Um but we're always happy to partner and support some of the

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mitigation that could come through. You really need town buyin with and this town really supports safety and seems to prioritize that. But if there was a way for us to partner on speed pumps, um other things in the toolkit for speed

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management, like we're certainly open to it. Um but for what we could do within our study area besides maybe like a reconstruction at readale or trying to free up some of these pinch points or something, I feel like we do feel like we've kind of exhausted the signal

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timing and the tweaks. >> Yeah. And so the signal timings are a bit nuanced because it's a bit of a chicken and an egg situation where um

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we want to prioritize time on 28 over time on the intersecting roadways so that we can keep flow on traffic 28 as good as possible. But also the cuz the worse the worse that the

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traffic on 28 gets, the more cutth through you will get. And so some of that was intentionally keeping the timings on the side streets low. Um, as long as cues were generally manageable. I know cues on Chikatabitet are not generally manageable, but elsewhere we

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observe them to be generally manageable. Um, so we intentionally tried to keep them low on say Hillside Street, Reed Street, so that we wouldn't encourage people to leave 28 and then pop out the signal from those side streets. So there's always room to change timings,

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but I'm not sure that the result would be any more favorable in reducing cut through traffic. And I'm going to exceed my expertise here, but is that usually for single timing like aligning

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on greens or do you ever utilize like dynamic timing? >> Yeah, I mean generally the signals out here are actuated. So they're, you know, they're using detection. So, you know, we've got some minimum recall settings

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and then when a call is placed on, you know, from the side street, that'll trigger, you know, um to once the main line hits its maximum to switch over to the side street. So, there is some dynamic room at play. Um but we you if

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you mean like adaptive signals, we weren't going into that level of signal equipment install with the pilot. Um because you need more equipment than what we were prepared to roll out in the time

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was done. Okay. Um, so it sounds like on that there there's still a line of communication between the town on um any opportunities with I don't know perhaps

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additional um um counts. I'm just kind of throwing that out there to see because that seemed to me would kind of seem like a thing to kind of check to see if there's more action that would help. But just just putting that out there. I mean, I

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think could be something for us to just like I said, just tweak some things. Um I'll just make one more comment. I'll open it up to you guys. um you know some this year we we do have um units coming up on Randolph a um 701

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703 um and just just wanted to see if that's on your guys radar if your thoughts on that particularly just the U-turn dynamic that would come if that's a right turn only um are we are we I just want to sort of make sure from a

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planning perspective that's on your radar and Do you think we're sort of accounting for that the best we can in terms of just the U-turn option to head into the city from there? >> So, we did remove the Uturn at Reed

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Street with the latest changes that were rolled out. Um, we were coordinating. We got the plans for the development um to look at, you know, what their traffic plans showed. Um, and we got the studies to look at, you know, the numbers they

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were projecting for trips. Um, I'm not concerned in terms of general intersection operations with the numbers they were projecting. Um, I didn't see any specific plans they had on how they planned to address the turn

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restrictions, but we didn't impact anything from what they would have already had to be doing before the pilot was in place. I don't want to hog the mic here. So, >> well, important. Um, my biggest question is can we talk about

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the roundabout that that I that continue I think will be a big point of contention for our residents. So, how are we thinking about that roundabout now with this with Randolph AB having been changed as well as with the new developments going in?

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Has there been a new study done since we thought about putting that roundabout in? Is it is it still considered in the same way with the changes? >> The roundabout project is moving forward. A big benefit of the roundabout was speed management and reducing speeds that even our signal improvement through

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the road die of bringing in protected lefts doesn't have. So with that having been the number one crash location in the state, even doing the road diet and improving safety the way that we have doesn't get you the benefits of the roundabout project, which was already close to advertising when we started

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this road diet. What is being done and has been done, but we sort of needed to see the results of this pilot evaluation before making any changes was rightsizing the roundabout a little bit more and considering if if you needed it to be too lean on all circulating um and

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trying to tie that in. So the the team has been sort of concurrently looking at that. >> It's going to be one or two. >> Yeah. >> So the team's been sort of concurrently looking at that because we couldn't really make a change to the project being advertised. We didn't want to lose that funding and it's a really important project and the roundabout will still

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have safety improvements. So that is moving forward. Yeah, >> that's moving forward as you said. Y >> um can we set a cadence where you are here to talk to our residents as that's going on? >> Wouldn't be me. The roundabout team is different. believe yeah the district Mark's here so

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he's hiding >> here um yeah probably in the fall sometimes that's when it's probably going to start really start that you might see something on the roadway >> um right now like Kayla said that the bid was awarded but they haven't been given notice to proceed so a lot of the

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early activities that'll be over the summer is just mobilization by the contractor putting together their schedule about and everything like that so it probably won't be till the fall you see something out there and then there'll be a communications group with the project itself.

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>> So with the road with the road diet, we did we did have an off-ramp if this did not work that we would go back or go to some other configuration. I'm assuming that's not available with the roundabout like once that's in. >> Is that where we stay?

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>> Yeah. So it's not >> to revert to a signal or do you mean >> to revert to two lanes? Do you mean to revert to two lanes? >> Revert to two lanes. Actually, we're looking into that. We're trying, like Kayla said, we're trying to rightsize it, but we're trying to do so that it doesn't prevent us from doing

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modification in the future that if we had to go back the two lanes, we we could. So, they're still looking at that. >> Okay. Um, second question on the cut through counts. I saw the one you did

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was November of 25. Um, is there a plan to have another one done on the cutthroughs? For which location? >> I just said cut through. Said you had the dates that you would come out to check them. The cutthrough was only November of 2025. >> Um those were more of observations. So

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we did the counts in September and then um in April. In November we sent um some folks out there to drive through and you know stand and observe through the neighborhoods and at the intersections um in that neighborhood.

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what we were seeing with cutthrough because that's when we started hearing folk, you know, the feedback from residents that they were seeing cutthrough activity. So, um, as of right now, I don't think we do have plans for further data collection

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in that area. Um, I know in the fall we were able to get information from some um, dynamic signage that the town had placed out there in response. Um, I'm not sure if that's still out there right now, but if it is, that would be pulling

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data. >> We move it as necessary. Um and the comments you all are receiving um ones that were negative. Were they negative in the terms of best you can surmise were they negative in terms of

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put it back or negative in make it better? >> Probably both. But there were certainly some folks that wanted to voice their um you know views against keeping the

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pilot. There are certainly folks that wanted um things to be reverted back. >> I think we we all probably have a few more questions. >> Yeah. Can I just um thank you so much for all of your work on this and making um Randolph Avenue safer. Um, you talked a little bit about kind of how you

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collect before this project safety trends and data and how do you you know I know there was the the deaths but how do you kind of understand like where you prioritize what you're going to work on and how do you kind of go about that piece?

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Yeah, I mean we we prioritize injuries and deaths of course um but essentially we use um crash data which um we map out. Um so that there are parts of Randolph

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Avenue that were top 5% crash segments based on more data than we were able to collect. That's usually based on like the past three years of data. So we already knew that this corridor in certain segments had like higher crash rates than other parts of the state. So that in addition to the crashes that

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happened, the fatals brought us to this road. And since we can't, you know, in six months say to everyone we reduce crashes, what we look at is sort of like the indicators for whether or not we will think that we will have changed that when we look at this again in three years. And that's why we showed the slide above conflict points, which is

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just like statistically how likely are the crashes to happen. And then the speeds are what we're really after. So when they happen, are they less severe? That's kind of we use the data to bring us here. We knew that it was a problem. We do do that at the statewide level and

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those are because we've only had so much time why we're talking about trends. Yeah. And then pre with since we did have a wealth of pre-pilot data and there was you know past studies done along the corridor um you know we were able to tailor the road diet design to

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the safety problems that were being seen. So looking at specific treatments at intersections like left turn lanes protected left turn movements you know that's in response to the documented safety issues. >> Thank you. I'm going to open it up for

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>> Okay. Uh this is for the gentleman in the back there. I have a bunch of people I know up the top of Randall Valve. He said without that light it's going to be harder and harder for them to pull out of their driveway and get in if there's no light to stop the traffic. They're

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going to keep coming around that circle and and it's just going to make it harder and harder for them to pull in and out. So I just and then I read in the globe Connecticut's doing a lot of roundabouts.

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Reason it saves on the intersection with the lights. It's cheaper. Put that right in the globe. I didn't make that up. It's just uh economically better. >> Yeah. >> Having lights. >> That's not the reason why we're doing

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>> There's one more question. What about Chickaba? They're supposed to be closing that road. >> Kelly, you want to? >> No, sir. Then that that just refutes the whole >> That's a DCR roadway there and and

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>> their process they're going through. >> DCR has been managing the process. So, does that have no impact on roundabout if DCR is able to move into >> No, I mean you would still need the leg for certain things. They weren't I don't think they were going to close the full extent. um we've coordinated with them

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and they're the details are >> they're still working through them and so it's not something that we would let preclude a safety improvement like the roundabout and even if they were to partially close it >> sometimes or for parts of it there's still benefits to Route 28 itself and

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Randolph with the speeds the speed reduction that you get from a roundabout and the side street access that people um oh >> these driveways >> yeah the driveways that I mean the road diet doesn't prove that anyway you're crossing against one lane and people are going slower versus the two that was

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>> they have the red light stopping them. >> Yeah. >> So they have a little bit of leadway to get in and out. >> I think that one more we have the island from the wall golf course down to Reed.

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You ever think about doing curbing some trees there instead of the yellow reflector >> for this road to be reconstructed? likely that is what will happen. >> Losing more and more of those yellow reflectors. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean they're they're on

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the inside and less of a >> So there might be an option for some trees. >> We're going to track how much it takes to maintain it and and consider that. Yep. >> Um I think uh John's points are to my my question on our continued meeting cadence particularly around the

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roundabout. um because residents are who are worried about that traffic not stopping them not being able to get out of their driveways. Um those folks that we're going to need to serve and speak with about those changes because it is a lot. We got to make sure that they're

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okay with it. So um whatever we can do in the buildup to this roundabout to address those issues, I think will be really important for us here in town. >> We'll work through the town administrator and get get connected to the roundabout team. It's a slightly different We coordinate, but it's a

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slightly different team than than us right here. >> It's all coordinate. Um, I'll just open it up for uh public comments. We'll go one at a time. If you all could just come right here to the table, 90 seconds a piece. >> Thank you, John Corey. 1452. Can't take

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me. I think it's going to be 90 seconds like that. Um, well, of all the data that you guys showed, um, the number one diverted traffic road that the town owns was Cton Avenue. That was the highest.

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And you talked about mitigation. And I just want to know what we're going to do together with town staff, select board, advocating for the residents, and the DOT to build some friction. help us build some friction on that road. I

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testified earlier, we have cars going, I know that they're 60 miles an hour. We have families that won't even go out, they won't walk on the road. And we have now more cars, and I would argue if there's 300 more cars a day, those 300

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cars are specifically cut through cars that are looking only to get from A to B. They're not more neighborhood traffic going into more houses or something like that. strictly cut through traffic that 300. Those are the fastm moving cars.

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So, how can you help us the residents? >> Missy, would you if you don't mind, you've had one opportunity if you could go. >> Sure. >> Um Amy Morrison, 58 Road. Um thank you again for all of your work on this project. Um, I will say overall Randolph

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AB feels much safer when driving. Um, I do have a concern and this is recent in the spring um with specifically with the gridlock at um Reedale and um Pleasant Street and Randolph have that

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intersection where the 7-Eleven store is. Um I've witnessed several times just in the past week while driving through there um children we trying to get across and weaving their way through gridlock and cars still trying to turn um past the light. So I think there's

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still an opportunity for um some safety measure there. Um, I will say, um, speaking for Clifton Road, the the traffic volume is significantly lower, uh, during those peak rush hours, and thank you again to the select board for

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your support. Um, I do feel that there is still an opportunity for some enforcement of the no left turn. Um, uh, Milton Police has been very responsive when called, but we do still, um, you know, unfortunately see some

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cutth through, although it has been significantly reduced. Um, so we we would ask that those no left turn restrictions remain in place. Um, and especially, and I know I'm over time, I just wanted to ask if there could be

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some continued um, monitoring of the traffic on those four ladder streets in light of the 7-Eleven apartment complex coming online. Um, you know, I I do worry about that um, you know,

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continuing to have an impact on the neighborhood. So, >> thank you. >> Thank you. Yes, I'd like to um praise you for the job well done as far as I'm concerned. I live on Hillside Street and have for 46 years and for the first time um since

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I've lived there it now feels safe to turn left on Chikatab um northbound on Randolph Avenue or left on Hillside Street because there are dedicated green advance arrows. So, um,

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a reminder that over the 45 years I've lived there, there have been not just three deaths, but 15 deaths. Um, so um, think of all the lives that we have we have um saved and all the people who've

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affected that we have um saved from the pain and agony. So um, Thank you, sir. >> We have a couple more from the members. >> Just one left. Again, great

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presentation. Good job. This is just so important to the community. Um just on bike safety. Um interested just how you guys think about that with respect to Randolph. It definitely some R resident

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feedback came in around that. Um, I don't I don't even know. I don't have an ask because I don't know that think about it on Randolph. I see the bigger shoulders. Some feedback came around um just better defined

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legs or Yeah. I just interested your thinking on bike safety or options on my health. Yeah, we sort of approached this as a sort of a one problem at a time and we didn't we discussed whether or not we should stripe the shoulders as bike

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lanes, but with the speeds the way they were pre-pilot, we felt like we would have been encouraging people to do something that like they think is safe because we striped it that way. But but normally we wouldn't put unprotected bike lanes up against vehicles traveling at those speeds. Um, now that we've

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decided the pilot was successful, it's something we can discuss and talk about options for in a more long-term way or even more quick build solutions. Um, but that's we sort of had the same preliminary thoughts of the people you're talking to. I hope the people

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were rid who are riding on it already do enjoy the slower speeds and the increased space to make it comfortable for everyone would require a bit more work than what we were doing with the pilot. Well, >> just to push on that just a little bit

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to clarify kind of who should be running with that for that example to to John's point in terms of the median if we wanted to spruce up the median for lack of a better description if we wanted to see if there was capacity on this area for now now there's maybe

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room for a shared use path on that would be protected because it' be part of the sidewalk. So like if that was a big reconstruction project, you made an illusion to that. Is that mass DOT who drives the boat on a big tip type project or would it be that's where the town could push for Mass DOT to be

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looking at that? Because I feel like that's that's is that the scale we're kind of talking about like a very large investment type project. >> Probably be a pretty significant investment. >> Assuming you brought up be widening sidewalks and so there's drainage there utilities. um without looking at it

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completely, it would probably be a reconstruction project. Um towns initiate projects on stateowned roads and work with designers and try to get a project to a place where it could be funded either by the state or by the MO. Um so it's not something that

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necessarily the town couldn't take initiative on for us. We would need to evaluate like the the overall needs of the road and compare it to all of the other roads in the state. Sure. And so, um, I'm not I don't have that with me now to know like how well it would rank for something that we would initiate

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today. Um, >> okay. >> It's something I think >> community support and uh initiation and projects especially if we want to get around the MO tip is is highly recommended. >> Okay, that's helpful just to help us think about our next steps as well. Thank you.

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>> Anything else from the members? >> Just one thing you'll see we're actually finishing up. We haven't finished the two-way left turn lane pleasant tonight. There actually people out there as we speak right now out there doing pavement markings and they'll all be installed on the do not walk the boxes at Ragewood

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tonight as well. And then we're going to be coming in and doing some sign work in the next week or two as well. So just make sure we wrap up and also um replace those flex posts that are missing. >> I got clear.

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>> So we'll leave it in good shape. >> Thank you. Um, if there are no other um, questions from the members, I'll just say uh, thank you for the work you've done. Even though you come in and face the tough questions, it's because we want the best for our residents and you've been incredibly responsive. And

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for us as a board, I think the feedback we've gotten has been largely positive. Um, and we've been able to move very quickly. You know, we're less than a year in to this and I think it's been um, a good collaboration piece of teamwork. So, thank you all. We'll combine all of our questions or updates

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or things that we'd want from you and administrator will send those forward. So, >> look forward to seeing you again. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much everyone. >> You mean you have to stay while

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everyone's sleep >> anyone sees Megan out there tell her to come in. So >> now we get a little pallet cleanser before we get back to the next. >> Good job, guys. >> Oh, we need Richard back. >> This is like time.

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>> They said you have to stay. >> Those ladies get a raise. >> Do a good job. They did. >> Okay. So, we'll move to something a little quicker. Uh, seven, the housing production plan advisory committee composition charge term and

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appointments. Um, Miss Milano, click, correct me if I am wrong, but this is to fill the final spot on the housing production plan, a collaboration between us, the planning board, and the affordable housing trust. Uh, we had a question going back where I did if we

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were doing appointees or members from the board. I think as appointed now, uh, the planning board has selected two members. affordable housing trust. I selected two members and we currently have one with an opening for an appointee or a member of the board and

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Megan Dolan is our current um on your on this. I would volunteer to join Megan on the housing production plan. I think I'm a little light on committee so I have a little little space if >> okay with that or someone would nominate. I would like to make a motion

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to nominate Winston Daly to serve as one of the two select board appointees to the housing production plan advisory committee. >> I accept. All right, we'll go around. Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.

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>> And yes. All right. And then a discussion and approval of >> Can I interrupt for one moment? >> Lyn, can you Sorry. Did we ever actually vote on the charge itself? >> Okay. If the board is comfortable with

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the charge itself, if we could actually formally I know we formed the committee, but we haven't actually approved the charge. So, the charge is as displayed. >> Now, I did include in the packet. So, this is what we had um running along, but Slickboard never voted actually to

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approve this and to create it. So, that would be helpful to >> Okay. You want me to read it in? Okay. >> Unless there's any other changes. It doesn't have to be written. Unless there's any other changes to this, it could be voted. >> Changes. >> I'd like to make a motion to um approve the formation of the housing

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production plan advisory committee and the charge as written on the screen. >> Motion made second. >> Seconded by Mr. Driscoll. Mr. >> Driscoll. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Snow. >> Yes. >> Sagerty. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes.

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Thank you, sir. >> Okay. Uh, number eight, pilot committee charge and composition to add a member of the board of port commissioners. Mr. Milan, do you want to go for that? >> Uh, yes, thank you. Uh, there is

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currently a pilot committee that's represented largely of a member of the select board and then a couple of residents. But um uh we had been approached by Carolyn Caitlin who's the current um chair of the park commission is inquiring as to whether the select board would consider adding a park commissioner to that as there are relationships between the parks

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department and the um large uh land owners in town in terms of use fields um and facilities. I I think I would say we should be in support of this and that the parks are using on the academy and curry and

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perhaps there be maybe some more in the future that they should have a spot and try to help us in pilot. So I would take a motion motion. >> Everyone's looking at me to make the motion. >> No, I'm waiting. Are you going to make

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one or are you going to make it? We got to have everyone practice. >> Um I make a motion to um add a member of the board of park commissioners to the pilot committee charge of composition. >> Motion made. >> Second. >> Motion seconded by Mr. Driscoll. Uh Mr.

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Overshimer stepped out, but I think uh Oh, he's back. Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. >> M. Sn. >> Yes. >> Hagerty. >> Yes. >> Myself. Yes. Mr. Overshimer. >> Motion. Motion on the floor is to add um a member of the park commissioners to

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the pilot board. >> Yes, of course she carries. >> I like this idea a lot and I'm really glad um she brought it forward. So, it's a great idea. >> All right, moving to nine. Laboret College closure and sale and appraisal.

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This is a discussion about Laboret is coming online. Uh I believe Mr. Milano has a presentation. I think one note to make for us as a board is that we should keep this relatively high level and not discuss anything around price or any specifics in that matter because that

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would be in executive session. Mr. M. Sure. Thank you. So, um I put together a couple slides just to frame the conversation and help um the board be aware of the various decisions that have to be made and some timeline

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implications. um and then certainly turn it back to board for a discussion. But um so just in terms of um informing everybody where things stand today, what has happened is uh once we were aware of the closure of Library College and um

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we're in touch with both Curry and Library about those transitions, uh we did reach out to to better understand um what this campus might offer in terms of a town asset. Um, so we had a walkthrough with both representatives from Milton public schools and consolidated facilities in April. School

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building committees talked about it at a couple of meetings and I and they have it on their agenda for further discussion um, tomorrow night at their meeting. And the school committee had a lengthy discussion on May 20th um, at school committee level talking about potential um, programming um, options

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that might fit at this campus. Um, it was a good conversation and it's worth uh, watching if you have not. um a lot still on the table, but they did talk about some options and and the merits and um disadvantages of some of them and and continue that work. So, um they are

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picking up that conversation on June 3rd at their next meeting. And the school committee is really focused on programming um and then we'll let the school building committee assist and advise in terms of how a program might fit or not fit um at this location. So

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the school building committee is currently working to um secure the services of an architectural firm to do that kind of um test fit analysis, identify what kind of code upgrades would be triggered for a renovation, what a renovation might um look like and

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crucially what an addition would need to look like because any of the options the school committee looked at would require an addition. So we just want to be clear about that. Um so that work's going on and then the homework for the select board related to the library if there's an interest in trying to acquire this

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property um will go through here. Um so I just wanted to broadly first just talk about in terms of land acquisition. Um the last piece of property the town acquired was the land adjacent to St. Agath for the fire station. Um so this process would play out pretty similar

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though not completely similar. um select board would be charged with negotiating and signing some sort of a conditional agreement or a purchase and sale for a piece of property that would be conditional upon funding a town meeting approval. Um so town meeting vote would

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be required to both acquire the property and then also appropriate the funds to purchase a piece of land. In this case with Labraet, it is likely we would need a ballot question for a debt exclusion um because of the cost potential cost of

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the property uh would be more than our operating budget can just accommodate. So we would need that dedicated source of revenue from the taxpayers to fund that um additional cost in the budget. Um, and then as kind of a separate process is what's going to happen there. If it's a municipal project or a school

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project, that would also require a town meeting vote or town meeting action to appropriate money for a project. So that would be a separate and um a later vote if there's a project there. And then if the town were to just buy it and then sell it later, again, town meeting would be required to um authorize a sale or a

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lease of the property. So, you know, one group of actions to acquire, a second group of actions to do a project, or alternatively to dispose of the property if that was the ultimate decision. Um, but the key takeaways for right now is this board has the authority to enter into an appease and sale that's

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conditional upon town meeting in a ballot question. In terms of the select board, I've identified some key decision points and some key considerations. There are probably others. I'm certain I'm certain there are, but kind of the primary one

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is just obviously a lot of um energy is going into evaluating it as a school building. So, is the board's interest in potentially acquiring this land only if it offers potential for a school project or is the interest to just acquire it as

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an asset and will engage in a process to determine the best use of that regardless of whether it works for a school or not? um because of the time it'll take to evaluate school programming, school fit, school cost, we might lose some time if we're awaiting

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that analysis rather than just moving forward on acquisition of it as an asset. Um and then obviously if Dre the board is generally interested in, we should begin process for securing um an appraisal. I solicited one quote just to

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get a sense of cost and scale of cost. So it was about $14,000. We'll have to solicit some additional quotes to satisfy procurement, but that'll give you kind of a a ballpark number as to what that might run us. We have to be mindful of the MSBA aspect

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here where the MSBA feasibility study agreement which outlines what we will study is a K to 5 for 495 students or a grade 78 building for 660 students. and based on just kind of overall size of the campus and the existing buildings

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there, those options really don't appear to be a good fit. So, if we were to proceed with a school project, we need to have a conversation about the MSBA about whether they would participate in some alternative um enrollment configuration or if it would be a town

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project on our own. Um, so that's something we've we reached out to MSBA today to to ask to have this conversation to better understand um how they would be looking at it, but that might go to overall school project cost um evaluation is whether the MSBA

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is participant or not. In terms of procurement, in terms in acquiring land, um there's not a lot there that's required of the town to follow because um this is a unique piece of property. There's a provision in Mass General laws that allows for a city or

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town to buy land if it offers unique um a unique opportunity. you know if it's a built if it's a school project obviously the you know the likelihood of another school coming on the market is low so it's unique in that as in that sense so there's not a lot of process for

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procurement which is helpful because we have other processes that we need to adhere to um and then lastly just on timeline with the state election coming up we obviously would try to minimize our special elections um however to put a

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question on the state election ballot we have to um notify the state by August 5th. So um it shrinks our timeline to have a decision made as to whether to put a question on the ballot. I included what a debt exclusion ballot question typically looks like below. As you can

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see, there's no specific amount of money. It's just will you taxpayer vote to allow us to increase your taxes to pay for the cost of doing something. That's how a debt exclusion is written. So, while you wouldn't necessarily need to have a done deal by August 5th, if

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you don't ultimately get to a place where there's an agreement, there might be a ballot question on the ballot that people don't need to vote for, which is not the best look in the world. And then the other factor I just wanted to flag is that right now there are currently 11 ballot questions in the hopper to be on that ballot. So, this would be ballot

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question number 12 or 13 on that ballot. So, that would be an extensive ballot. um it would be good cost avoidance to not have a special election, but because of the August 5th deadline to meet because of the number of ballot questions, I just wanted to flag those as things to think about and the board

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to to um evaluate as we go through this. Um and then on the agenda, we did include a reference to the Athetherton Street Fire Station project. I don't have a reference in the slides, but that's just to say that our plan was to try to have that question on the state election ballot. But if ultimately

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perhaps special election makes more sense than a question for this board will be, do we put those together on a special election ballot that's like a standalone Milton election that won't have 11 other ballot questions for people to turn the page through first? Um, so just all kind of pieces here. And

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then again on the agenda we've included the special town meeting right related to this because based on what we set for a ballot question date if we set one for acquisition we would want to also tee up the town meeting to be approximately in that same time frame. So if again we're

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looking at an alternative date for a special election then we don't have to worry. We can work on that special town meeting late for date for later. If we're committed to November ballot questions, then that special time meeting should be sometime in mid till um in mid-occtober.

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Um so that's I think some of the moving parts. I just wanted to try to give an overview of what those m moving parts were. I think the the primary question and real big picture of terms of are we acquiring it for a school only or acquiring it for all potential future

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uses or resale or what? Um really sets kind of some of the dominoes in motion. But these are the different um hoops we'll need to move through if folks are interested in in acquiring this piece of property. Um so I'll turn it back to you Mr. Chair >> to take it over.

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>> Yes. So let me try to summarize where what what's here for us in discussion. One elaborate um as a body do we feel that we should move forward in acquiring regardless of use if we want to go school to have it as an asset for the

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town and then decide what will happen uh later. We know the schools have been talking uh the opportunity for perhaps that uh either with the MSBA's approval or going for that prek kindergarten, but do we want to acquire it regardless and say we want to start that process which

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involves us getting in an appraisal and moving through purchase and sale. Uh then also do we want to couple this with Athetherton? Um, I did a bad job of saying we're kind of discussing 9, 10, and 11 with the special town meeting date and agent. Meaning, if we want to

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get it on that November ballot, we would need to have everything submitted with Aberet by August 5th. But if we don't, then we can move town meeting to later and not be stuck to the October date. Then we would have town meeting and then the

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special election. So mostly for us right now, I think it's us talking about how do we feel about labor and moving forward in this purchase and sale possibilities. >> I have a quick question

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just to there was a lot of information that came out. Are we do we have to do the debt exclusion for the purchase of the site to fund the purchase of the site? Not just the

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um it the the debt exclusion will cover the land cost, not just design and construction. >> It will it would only cover the land acquisition. >> Only cover the land acquisition. >> Well, that's actually a good point. I hadn't actually considered that, but

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correct for right what the way I framed it, >> you need a town meeting vote and a ballot question to acquire the property. Now, you could to your point. >> Probably not. I Let me think about that. I think what your message was is that why don't we vote on also funding the

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design? >> There's part of that, too. But so as a resident, if we're going to acquire an estate on Milton Hill, I would I would think I would be more inclined to

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vote on a debt exclusion if I know exactly like what it's for as opposed to the town holding an asset. It might it might make it easier for me to vote yes. That's my initial thought. So if we were to go to town meeting in special

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election, you would want to see more details of we are acquiring this site for this particular purpose directly. >> Like I don't think people are going to be like excited about us saying like hey we're going to buy this property. Let's

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just do it. It'll be great. >> I think that's the >> Sorry, I'm really tired so my sense of humor is out in full force. No, I I think I think it would be a good idea for us to have if not a specific

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use, maybe multiple. I think we have to clarify the picture. And also too, it would be nice to not have to do multiple debt exclusions or, you know, just making sure if we go out to get the money, we get all the money that we

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need, but that also makes it hard if you don't have a specific project in mind. >> Well, we can speak to that now as a board. If we have a preference to say that we're going out to get this property um with you know whatever percentage of

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certainty that we want it to be a school then the schools would need to come back with their programming desires their relationship with MSBA and then the schools would also start their appraisal and um generate some sort of uh report

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for us on cost right what it would be to renovate um laboret what programs would go there and then I think by the we would want to have all of that in line by the time we go to town meeting for that discussion and vote and then special election. Do I

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have that correct? >> Don't we need to have the the number the number we need to go to by August 5th? >> Only if we want to have it on the November statewide ballot. I think I just I I want to be clear about what is

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probably feasible if we're thinking and and library has communicated they plan to focus on the sale of the property when the campus is officially closed which happens in August. Um in my last conversation or my last email with the president they were looking to onboard their broker pretty soon. So like that

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process will begin pretty quickly and I don't know that we would have a lot more time than end of calendar year to take steps necessary to acquire the property to be able to also fund a project

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that we might have broadstrokes ideas of what a school project might cost but we would probably be in no position to ask the residents in town meeting here is the project that will cost this much money, please vote for it. So, I I don't know that that would be

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mechanically possible just with the amount of time they're working under. And if it's an MSBA project, there's no chance that will be possible because their process is much more longer. And I think in their feasibility study or in their letter inviting the town, the earliest that we would even be allowed to vote for a project with the MSBA is

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July of 2027. So, there might be a place where we're able to say it will be a I misspoke there. I was I did not mean to to animate that we would say what the entire project would be by the end of this year. I think I was saying that would be our process with the schools

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>> if we were going to go with prek kindergarten and we wanted it to be a school and we would start that process with schools not that it would be end of the year. >> Um I just I had sort of a framework in mind for thinking about this that I think complements what you guys are

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saying. I hope it does. But yeah, I think timing is tight between now and August and and I think we have sort of two tracks that we need to be thinking about in parallel. One is if this is a viable school option um track and the

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other is if it's not a school option, are we still interested in purchasing it track? And one of my goals for tonight was to think about what what do we need to set in motion to be in a good

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position on both of those tracks in two and a two plus months, three months. I I don't know when we really and um you know I it's it's complicated. You can almost talk about each of those options

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all night. Um I I like wanted I had a couple thoughts. I'll just run through mine like on the school track. Um you know I'm thinking about what what do we need to kind of convey to school

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building committee and school committee. They're already working on this stuff. is what they're doing adequate enough in motion for us to kind of be in a position to receive that information to know whether that's a viable option or not. Um

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just a couple quick options and you know I I have on on what they're working on right now. Um is um and my understanding is just just a you know that um

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the school committee is working kind of on you know making a programmatic recommendation if they have and they're leaning towards a prek tok option but still working through that. and then school building committee is teeing up

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an architect to try to um you know evaluate the facility level feasibility of such an I'm hoping a rough project price would come out of that school building committee work too right um and then the framework we would consider

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that towards us or maybe they would couple that in the recommendation is what is the magnitude of cost savings of that project versus the MSVA work knowing we'd likely have to forego um I must say be a reimbursement or

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start over in that process and also what kind of school solution is it um that would be involved here is it a meaningful long-term solution anyway just not to belabor this but a couple things that are I'm not sure if

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we need to do more to set in motion one is transportation of a school option make It's not clear to me if if someone's looking into that to to me like how that would work. I heard Superintendent Failen talk about, you

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know, that's or maybe school committee asked him about it. Like that seems to be an open issue, how transportation would work on an option there. Is that in motion or can we set something in motion to get some deliverable back on

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whatever you know whatever transportation option would come with a prekk option over there. The other thing I was just thinking about with school option was like are the deadlines clear right now for what information we're getting back from school building committee and school committee? I loosely kind of

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heard June July times, but um do we have kind of an aligned schedule with with M&S on kind of working through this? Um that was my thinking on like just the school option just moving through a tight timetable. Um I just I'll

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interested your guys thoughts on that sort of framework. >> Can I add one more like track because I see this very similar to the way you're thinking about this, but I think there's like sort of three tracks. It's like, can this be a viable act option for a

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school? And if it isn't, can we still buy it? Because now we're getting a school, a firehouse, and a unique property that is really could be great for something, but can we afford all can we afford all three? And probably not,

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right? Because I think we're worried that we're going to go to the town for this and this. I don't know that we can say we're going to buy an estate in Milton, right? >> I can answer the the bus transportation question if they could take the other two. Sure. So, the superintendent has uh

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indicated to us that they are thinking about transportation even though it is a little further down the line, but that most of if this was a pre-K and kindergarten, most of those students would be on buses. >> Okay. And I think the other aspect to

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that is once they settle on a once they move closer to settling on a program that will also inform kind of what that transportation conversation might have to look like. But it's something I I did raise um and I think it's worth raising um again and you're on the school

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building committee, right? I think that's worth flagging there as well as a just an issue that we we would probably want to understand answers on um for how to navigate in and out of there um and across town for for a lot of residents.

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Um on the deadlines, I think the deadlines are pretty clear. Obviously there's only so much work that can be done in so quick a time but I think where um ar the architect is being in discussions to be on boarded with a deliverable by the end of July. So that

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provides yes enough time for the August 5th deadline by a few days. So that August 5th deadline might be pretty tough to meet but I think everybody's moving pretty quickly and the school committee is um aware of the need for them to architect is not an unlimited

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budget so they're able to look at an option. They can't really look at three options. So it's really on the school committee to kind of try to make as much headway on that programming um first because it it then trickles down to the transportation issue. It trickles down to the feasibility issue um and then

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just to the finances. Yes, I think that's it's not something we've talked about, but it's an important aspect here because you'd be and this would be going first. You'd have Athetherton and Labor Day coming now with an operating override at some point in the future and

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a school project ask at some point in the future um all you know closeish together. Have we had any outreach from the neighbors in this area expressing

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a viewpoint yet on the use of the site? I have to imagine that some of them have heard about the sale. >> I have not heard anything I I cannot speak to anything directly to to me. I I don't know about other town staff or

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yourselves, but I have not heard anything from residents in that area. I think to uh Pete's point um and Megan's as well if we were to acquire

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Labor Ray with the goal of the school with the school's selected program for what their architects and research comes back with as the best um program and relief for the for the overcrowding at that spot.

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The goal would be that the total project comes in under total project currently positioned at Gal Road. I think that's where we're trying to get the savings with this asset which is kind of a rare

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opportunity. We've only acquired next to St. Agath is that if we were able to do that that we would save the town a significant amount hopefully a significant amount in the long run and have that relief in space. >> Well, I think that's the Sorry, go ahead.

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I was just about to say I think that's the for me that's the greatest potential of this site um is is to potentially help the school department with the

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capacity issues and um enhance educational programming at a better price than than what we currently have. >> And I would say it needs to be

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significant if if we aren't getting the benefit of like future proofing, right? It's it's can't be a it can't be like net equal in the end. It has to be a good a decent sized trade-off because with you know the transportation issue

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that you're bringing up, right? We're now shipping kids from every single part of the city, town, small, but to one place, right? Not to mention traffic. I think the hope would be that for the

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younger grades and there are requirements for buses that perhaps the traffic would would not be as significant if they're on a bus and not every parent driving to this location, but that is going to be done.

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>> I think there's going to be a lot to talk about the school option. You know, as Superintendent Failen said in his May 20th presentation, you know, I think schools have been dealing with space level constraints for years. And um I think we're in for some

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substantive, you know, important discussions on whether this, you know, there's going to be some competing interests with this, but there's some good work underway to, you know, give this property a really good look for

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whether it, you know, accomplishes that kind of solution for the schools. Um, if I could pivot to the if if we find ourselves on the other path where it it sort of, you know, doesn't come back as a

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recommendation as a school option here. I'm just to to your point kind of like what is a reasonable place for us to be at in August in terms of teeing this up? You know, do we want to buy it um with with a use in mind?

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um million-dollar question there. I I I and that you know I do wonder the likelihood that we we're in that position and what's a reasonable level of diligence between now and then to be the basis for

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that decision by us. Um you know added to the fact there's zoning considerations for education right now. Um, I I'm not, you know, I'm not an expert on this. I'm not sure

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if it's realistic to between now and August to have a specific use ironed out. I just don't I don't know. I I look that, you know, I'm interested your guys thoughts.

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you know, I I'm not sure there's direct precedent in this town um of of moving on that kind of timeline. Like I looked at what other towns have done for other sort of unique land acquisitions. And when there's longer timelines, sometimes you see

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subcommittee formed with different kinds of real estate financing, real estate other experts to kind of give a recommendation for a use. Um that can continue um postacquisition too. I don't think there's time for that now between now and August to staff out a committee.

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So, I'm not I'm I'm just flagging that as I don't know if that is something postacquisition or not. Um if we're on a tighter timing to come up with a use in two and a half months or or at least ideas for potential uses that could or

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or you know provide some color around a purchase plan because it is such a unique property. One of the things that I fear and I ask Mr. Milano to speak to the

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potential risk of this is what one of the things I fear is that this could be if if we don't do anything with this site that this could turn into

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a 40B. So my question is also what can we do to prevent that or mitigate that risk >> because I think that would be that would be difficult in this area. >> Maybe that's the first step for us to

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think about as a board. Do we think it's best that what happens next with Labaray is up to the town? And I think that's perhaps where we start. We don't have to have everything figured out. I think in that lens by

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August for running parallel tracks where we're saying select board or the town feels like we should make every effort to make sure that this is in town control whatever happens next and the schools are running parallel with their plan and their idea and we're doing our

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own appraisals and so that if it does you know if we do come and we merge and we say the schools have a great idea and we decided this should be in town control. this is something cohesive that we can put in front of the in front of the residents and the taxpayers that

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we decided this is definitely the way we should go. Should we first be saying do we think this is something we should pursue that at the end of this we end with the town of Milton having that land

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>> firehouse aan will come on for vote before this right >> in the same time span like right now Athetherton is planning to be on the state election ballot but if we have a special election for Labberet then

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Athetherton could be on that ballot as well or not. So >> it down too >> correct either way. Yeah. So those um >> risking >> those are the options where the board has to decide. There's no the Athetherton project is not committed to any time frame yet. What we've planned

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for out because of we weren't really thinking about library. We've planned for the fall state election for the Athetherton to be voted. >> I'm just afraid that could get voted down >> because it's coupled to this you may do. Yeah. >> I mean, the school group I do know what

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you mean. The school group would push for this. >> Well, the school group could push for both. >> You never know, >> Megan. I'd hope that, but I hear from a lot of people they're tired of the taxes.

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Know what I mean? I've had people say, "We going to have another override?" I said, "Not for at least two or three more years, I think." >> Y. So >> yeah, >> I'm living with it. Can can we can would it would it be helpful to walk backwards from when we

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think that they are going to love Ray is going to go up for sale and when we need to have some kind of decision about whether we can um get this funded and and work backwards from there to like maybe August 5th is like some we just take that off the table because it's

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just not going to work for our timeline and what we need to figure out like for timing for you know what this could be plus or minus school. I mean, I think we've talked a lot about that a lot from the residents about a community center. We don't have anything for our young people to go to, but that's a really

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expensive probably community center. >> Yeah. I think >> not be like the nicest community center. Yes. >> But not afford. >> Right. >> I think I we may uh want to be careful with like designing our own programming before deciding if we want to move

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forward with acquiring it. >> Yes. Sorry. >> The working backwards. I think that's where we have to be we have to remember that there are two people at this table. So, we have to assume library A is has an interest which they've been very gracious and very um amendable with

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their time to date and then it's really they're going to really dictate that and I don't have a good sense of what their timeline actually will be. So, I think I'd say planning for generally being prepared to make some decisions around August is probably a good time frame based on the information we've received

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from them to date. And I think that would be the date we'd want to be working backwards for them. Not because of the state election so much as so. That's when they've indicated that they want to have some decisions starting to be made by. And because we have to make a conditional offer that's dependent upon town meeting doing one thing and

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the voters doing another, you know, they would have to say, "Hey, sure, we're willing to sell it to you, town, and we're also willing to wait four more months for you to finish your processes." So I think being trying to be first at the table is helpful rather than us being one of 10 offers that they're looking at and say now we're

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just going to we're going to go a different way. >> Yeah. Because I was just thinking we don't want to have to say and we think this is going to be you know a kindergarten by whatever by August. I think we want to say back to your point do we want we think

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that this makes sense to be in the town's control whatever it ends up being. We can decouple it from Athetherton if we have concerns about that. It's just there as a discussion. >> If we don't want to tie the projects together because they may have different

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risks for the other one that Athetherton move forward for the November ballot and then we'll worry about um Labber and town meeting separately. I'm just thinking and that's an

602
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interesting idea um that we should keep talking about. I think um from a diligence perspective I'm thinking about um on this whole putting ourselves in well maybe it's how you said it Winston about

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controlling this. I mean is that the basis for which we um make our decision focusing on control or not control and maybe that's enough because it's an important enough property. Um,

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I I do wonder whether we can, you know, have a better understanding of like three to five possibilities of the property to to just round that out. Um,

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if that's realistic, um, between now and August, I mean, you know, we're we're deciding on the appraisal, which to me seems very logical. I just wonder and I don't know the price tag that would be associated with it, you know, whether some either extending

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that or considering any consulting support around um you know thinking about use options for a property with this type of complexity with zone the way it is. um um you know

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considering um you know available grants depending on the use um I mean there's a lot to think about there I I think that would probably get expensive but um with this type of timing where where we don't have time to kind of form subcommittee about it I've thought about that I I

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don't know your guys thoughts on you know expanding the scope or considering a second scope to work that up a little bit um putting that out there for thoughts. But so so I guess the question would be for

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initial steps to advance the ball on the sort of the non-school acquisition or just global controlling our destiny destin you know option. Um are we you know do we just initiate the

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consider initiating appraisal for now or some sort of broader consulting um advice around you know pre-acquisition use considerations. >> I think that would to me that would be the the main point first of us getting

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that appraisal um so we know what you know ballpark talking about in terms of acquisition and from there I think we can pivot off of that but

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whether it's working with schools committee or whatever our steps are knowing what that might cost as well as labor's timeline um which is now looking at August right for them to actually put it out with their broker perhaps it's up to them

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>> but it gives us a next step which we haven't taken >> the first step yet to say, "Well, let's start the appraisal." >> If the board's interested in in kind of what it's referencing is the the foundations of some kind of

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reuse analysis, we could start to get a sense of what that might cost and take in terms of duration and what consultants might work that up to be in terms of the scope of work. if that's what it sounds like that's kind of what

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you're speaking to is like what what would a a reuse evaluation engagement look like and what would a time frame be like and and what might be able to be done on a shorter quicker turnaround >> or I mean you don't lose the work or you

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use that post acquisition anyway so I wouldn't mind us starting to just learn a little bit more about that not I think the appraisals priority for sure and I to you know John take to heart

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your comment about um if if we're going to recommend to the town anything that we have to go back in terms of a debt exclusion anything like that um that's a big decision um

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my perspective that's why trying to kind of be so thoughtful about it >> yeah speak to the point of that of decoupling them is is well thought and that the fire stations had its own space for folks to talk and discuss. Um

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the laboratory property should have that same space and not bump into something else because it's that big and important of a of a potential acquisition. >> So what do we need to do now? Do we need to do a motion on the appraisal or Uh, I

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don't think we we need one. >> Sort of everybody agrees we want to move forward with at least getting a sense of an appraisal cost. So, I'll we'll solicit some quotes and then um be back on the 9th for approval of that. So, we'll we'll get this in on the next

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couple of weeks. Yeah, >> I I think next time we talk about this, we should also talk about the right level of engagement with the community on this as it goes along. Um I don't

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know the right touch points for that as it evolves, but you know, it's a big big decision, you know. So >> yeah, I would like to know what the abutters think. It's a big it's a big

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property and the change of use in any direction is going to have a big impact in that area. So be good to hear from some folks. All right. So with that um we don't need for item 10 and 11. Item

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10 the town meeting date. I don't think we need to leave with one tonight and in interest of time perhaps we'll just move that to the 9th um for Athetherton Street. I also think we don't need to >> they're planning to be at an October town meeting for a November ballot

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question and they'll continue to plan for that unless we tell them otherwise. So >> with that and so we will move to item 12. There are a few later I think we can move forward with in terms of time, but you need 112 tonight.

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>> Just uh these two um items, the decarbonization roadmap which I provided in the packet and zero emissions vehicle policy which I provided in the packet both do need action by the end of June. Um so um if you have questions ahead of your our next meeting, we can go through them a little bit more in detail on the

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9th. But if you have any questions on them in the meantime, please let me know. The decarbonization roadmap is is what's in the title. It's really if we wanted to remove greenhouse gas emissions from our from the town of Milton's municipal and school assets,

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how would we get there and what kind of steps would we need to follow? It's not a binding plan. It's just really a a pathway to do that if the town wanted to consider it. And the zero emissions vehicle policy is is a policy that would say first option is always going to be a zero emissions vehicle when practicable,

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when cost effective, um, etc. So, um, just ask the members to to read those in the next couple weeks and we can pick up a more conversation on the nth. >> So, we can move item 12 and 13 to the ninth. >> 13 is the same idea where we have been I referenced this at town meeting, but

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we've been in in conversation with Rew LLC for an energy credit agreement which was authorized Select is now authorizing to enter into one. So, it is a 25-year proposal for approximately 80% of our kilowatt hour usage that we would buy

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credits of at a 17.5 cent discount on a per dollar basis of the credit. So, it's a cost avoidance of a couple hundred,000 depending on the amount of kilowatt hours that we commit to. Um, we have the

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outlines of an agreement in place. the council for both the town and Rewild are going through it and I'll let them continue to do that ahead of the night. But I'll share what we have for an agreement at this point. If you have any qualms or concerns or questions about that kind of energy credit agreement,

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I'm happy to take those the next couple of weeks. >> 14 committee reports. Uh I think we can do these briefly. Um budget coordination committee. So at the last budget coordination committee meeting we discussed

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a cross departmental crossboard uh annual budget development calendar. If we go forward with this calendar which was received um positively by everybody we would

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begin the budget process earlier in the year. So, it might look like we would start to hear some budget information and start meeting with the school committee in

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August so that um we could get to a clearer um picture of where we're at around um like late fall, early winter. So, it is still under development. Um, but

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we've had a lot of edits and we think that this is going to help for overall governance and help for a smoother budget process this year coming up and we had a smoother budget process this past year.

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So hopefully it will improve things. I don't know if Winston you have anything to add or Nick if you have anything to add to that. >> No, I would agree. I think um uh the next meeting we'll have a little bit more change will be piece big goal for

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us is to get the calendar together and most important to really start collectively in August >> I agree >> uh for housing trust Mr. Let's go. >> I had a meeting, very interesting meeting at the ground running

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uh the Earl U game about Miller A. Uh they've had two units offline for couple years and uh we made we voted last Thursday to

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give them 600,000 to help them out affordable housing. give him some funding. So, uh that was the second meeting. So it's a very interesting group and uh very interested in the whole thing kind I'm I'm learning

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as I'm as I'm going >> but having two units empty then I say we're building all these big buildings >> this that's for handicap access >> one's for wheelchair accessibility and the other one's a regular

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apartment and uh I just said I just like to get these things up and running. No, but they're they're running away. >> Thank you. Uh item 15 uh to deal with the personnel board. Uh the point that

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was brought up at town meeting, I'm going to move to have that move to uh June 9th as well where town council will be able to attend and kind of walk us through the personnel boards and that's used statewide so we can talk about how to move forward. Um think we

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can do the change of boards walls too rather quickly. >> Yep. This is an annual requirement there. They need to submit information as to who is comprising of their board of directors. So um you'll see this annually over the next couple of years. >> Thoughts or questions?

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I'll take a motion. >> Review move to approve the amended application for changes to the board of directors at Walston Golf Club. >> Motion made. >> Second and seconded by Mr. Driscoll. Mr. Dress your sir. >> Yes. >> Mr. Overshamp. >> Yes. >> Sto.

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>> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. >> All right. 17. Appointment of Robert Mayhew to the interim consolidated facilities director.

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Thoughts or questions from the members? >> He's only going to be interim >> and we are posting the position this summer. Um, so he's interim until the position is posted and um applicants are received. So yeah, so Bob has is running with it on an interimm basis and then

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with the job will be posted this summer and um look to have an official decision made for permanence by uh September. Uh so this is just a he's the he serves in that role or the facilities director whoever it is serves in that role on

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these committees. So, we just need a vote of the board to formally put Bob in that um slot on these committees. >> I will take a motion if anyone move. >> Move to appoint Robert Mayhew, interim consolidated facilities director to the

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following committee, school building committee, capital improvement planning committee, local emergency planning committee, Milton Landing Committee. >> Motion made and seconded. Mr. Driscoll, >> yes. >> Mr. Stopper, >> yes. Nolan, >> yes. >> Yes.

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>> Myself, yes. >> All right. Discussion approval of motorcycle safety awareness month proclamation. Do I need to read this in? >> You can dispense with the reading. >> Okay. I'll dispense with the reading as written and stated. I'll take a motion to approve.

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>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the motorcycle safety awareness month proclamation as written and held in Mr. Dy's hand >> motion made and seconded. Mr. Driscoll, >> yes. >> Mr. Overshaw, >> yes.

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>> Snowlet, >> yes. >> Sager, >> yes. >> And myself, yes. Stay safe. >> Motorcycle week. >> Stay safe. All right. Meeting minutes. Motion to approve the meeting minutes dated May 6, May 7, sorry, 2026, May 6,

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2026. May 7th, 2026 and May 11, 2026. Let's read all these to you. >> Motion made >> seconded. >> I I did send to Nick just an edit on the sixth. So, whatever's the most efficient way to deal with this right now.

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>> Just through the seventh and the 11th. >> Oh, so I make a new >> No, no. And I I >> just for the seventh and 11th. >> Okay. >> The sixth will be pending. >> Yeah. Um motion to approve meeting minutes dated May 7, 2026 and May 11,

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2026. >> Made second. >> Seconded, Mr. Driscoll. >> Your vote? >> Yes. >> Mr. Shammer? >> Yes. >> Snow? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself? Yes. >> They'll bring me six back. >> Congratulations.

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>> I didn't see that edits either. >> For our town administrator report, Mr. Milano. >> Uh, sorry. I don't It's late hour. I don't have much. Just thanks to >> I dragged this one out. Okay. >> I love you guys. I want to be here for a while.

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>> Thanks to everybody for the help around town meeting. I know it feels like a long time ago, but it was it was just a couple weeks ago, but thanks to uh all the staff that had to come out and for the town meeting members for three lively nights. >> Thanks to you, Nick.

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Thanks to town council as well. So, all right. Uh, chair's report. I really do not have much. Um, I would like to thank everyone. Um, around Memorial Day yesterday, uh, we had a pivot because of the weather. So, we did it, um, at the Council on Aging. So, uh,

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big thanks everyone at the Council on Aging. Thank you to Lisa Hearn and the cemetery team, Matt Murphy, Consolidate Facilities, DBW, Nick and Cody for their work, the cemetery trustees, all of our speakers, the color guard, all the families, attendees, the residents, and

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the Milton High School band and chorus. It is an incredibly important and uh well done event every year. It is incredibly moving. So, thank you to everyone um around uh Memorial Day. Um, I wanted to mention and I'll leave it

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for Mr. Driscoll, uh, moment of silence for Milton residents. Uh, Ellen Mary Sha, uh, she was a longtime resident and I believe she ran the gift shop at Milton Hospital for what I hear was 55 years. So, our condolences to her and

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her family. I know Mr. D, you want to say a few words? >> She was a true lady. Like Winston said, she she uh, Mrs. Sheay and Mrs. Kim Kibble started that gift shop 55 years ago. All volunteered all them years

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running that gift shop. So they're very extraordinary ladies and uh Mr. She was a first class lady. Thank you very much, Winston. >> Thank you, sir. Thank you. And thank you to her and her family and her condolences. Um not much for me. I'll

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just say it's my first like sort of big meeting being chair and I am uh very happy to be serving with all of you. So really happy as you guys see we're three hours in and a lot has been done and a lot more to do over the next year and I'm very happy for the team that we've

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assembled and especially town staff and all of you here. So I'll leave it at that. Um anything from the members they'd like to report or share? I think we're gonna get there on the motions throwing curveballs at us this time

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format. >> Anyone else? >> For me, I I haven't had any subcommittees yet, but we'll have reports next time probably. >> Slacker. >> I I just want to say yesterday that the band and the choir are unbelievable.

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>> You're great. and just for the taxpayer, you know, to see what their money, you know, what money does. It's just a great group. And I I hear the the the the plays they put on too were unbelievable.

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And uh I was just very impressed. And uh it goes to show you the money's going to good use. And uh they were just unbelievable with the band and the choir. some very talented kids in our schools in our town.

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Okay. Uh public comment response. I think a lot of it was addressed. Uh Miss Muzzy was able to share. Mr. Corey as well. Um uh Ian on town farm. Um I'm actually going to move our town farm discussion as well to uh January 9th so

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we can have that a little bit more robust. June 9th, excuse me, January 9th. uh late uh so that we can um not maybe not get into the RFP but a few other things about uh town farm but his comments are wellreceived and and heard uh Miss Rosemary and as well spoke about

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uh to your point Mr. overshimer about um possibilities collaborate and if we whatever decision we go with that it is shared with the town with response with an open process so that everyone understands the decisions that are being

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made. So I just wanted to say that on all the public comments I think that was all of them that were addressed. All right. Future meeting schedule June 9th and June 23rd. Are we all in line with that? Make sure

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I've gotten this wrong a few times. And then our retreat remains on the 13th. Any future agenda items from the members? Are we ready to cycle back on our departments?

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>> We haven't actually finished, but we have uh our time accountant and finance director will be here on June 9th. >> Okay. All right. >> Maybe our treasurer will be next or HR, one of those two. >> And what's our date with the planning board?

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>> June 23rd. >> June 23rd. and and on the planning board, you know, I think that is a good time to, you know, should have mentioned them in our discussion on some of the land use discussion. Look

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forward to talking about that with them, too. Um, at a minimum on the June 23rd get together. I'm sure I'll hear about it. All right. So for executive session, Mr. Milano's a little bit of guidance here. We will skip the right.

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>> Yeah. Yes. Yes. >> 648 652 can nav and not do the collective bargaining this. >> Uh if you have two minutes for me, please. >> Okay. I will move to enter executive session to discuss strategy respect

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litigation in the matter of J10 closing comprehensive land holdings LLC OADR docket number W202433 semicolon 034 based on my belief that discussion of this matter in an open session may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the select board. The select board will not return

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to open session. >> Second. >> So moved. It's made in the second. Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself? Yes. I will also move to enter into executive session to discuss strategy with respect to collective

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bargaining. Um as listed below >> second. >> Yes. >> Yes. The select board will not move will not return to open session. I will take a motion to return. >> So moved. >> So moved.

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>> Yes. >> Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And myself. >> Yes.