##VIDEO ID:OT2UkQh_7H0## [Music] f [Music] uh good evening uh we call the meet into order of the Milton School building committee it's December 16 2024 at 7:04 p.m. uh as we start each meeting I'll start with a just roll call attendance John Caine here Mark Loring here Scott Terk here um and then online we have Tim Lumbard the V to be in person too correct present thank you Carrie Hurley present uh Selena Miranda present and AA B present perfect thank you uh so second thing on the agenda as we do each week is Citizens speak we reserve the first 15 minutes of the meeting for any citizens that would like to speak uh we ask that you limit your commentary to three minutes uh and please state your name and address um and the first one we have up is adah Rose Marin a you're recognized hi can you hear me uh yeah me here just name and address to aah Mar y of Rosemary and 32 Coline Road hello everyone I just came to say congratulations and thank you congratulations on the invitation into the msba funding program for school buildings fifth time was a charm thank you for your persistence and making the case about the need to address severe overcrowding in the Milton Public Schools your ability to stay on multiple tracks to pursue different options that became available over your years of work together has paid off there are bound to be more Forks in the road before the school is finally built but your team has the needed skill set is focused on addressing challenges and you have strong leadership with chair sha oor and vice chair Mark luring Milton is in good hands with you all thank you for your hard work over these past six years we appreciate all you've done to reach this moment and recognize the work you have ahead Milton will be a better place with your efforts and our kids will be the beneficiaries thanks again and keep up the good work thank you ad um nobody in person and see if anybody else raises their hand give a minute all right uh moving forward uh agenda item number three is approval of past meeting minutes uh last meeting was last week Monday December 9th 2024 uh is in everybody's packets so just pause and see if anybody has any edits or comments to last week meeting yeah camera's off you see there's a check here that make a motion to approve meeting minutes for Monday December 9th 2024 second second by carry any discussion hearing none uh roll call vote John C yes Mark lauring yes Kack okay Carrie Hurley yes uh Selena Miranda yes Tim Lumbard abstain aquar yes and Sh work yes all right uh item four uh a msba updat we got a couple things under there uh first is to review and discuss the msba board meeting so I'm sure everybody's aware at this point uh we had a formal invitation to uh the eligibility period for msba that was extended to us last Friday uh superintendent baros attended that meeting when it was I wasn't able to attend so just um yeah it was great we had the opportunity to just thank the board and everyone in MSP for allowing us into the eligibility period there were a number of other districts present too and each superintendent or sometimes the mayor of the city that was coming into msba share just a a brief thank you and since that time we've been communicating back and forth with the MP trying to understand a little bit more based on where we are and the work that we've already done how does that situate us and I think as you all know it's it's fairly lock step in some ways but it it seems like the the capacity we've built over the years is going to be huge in going through this process um so it's been exciting just to learn more and kind of figure out what what we'll be doing the eligibility pered um begins May 1st and so there's some work that we can do before May 1st but there's some that we also have to follow the msba timeline and I think there'll be a lot of learning that we do in the next couple weeks related to that any any questions is on the meeting overall many exciting exciting all right so leading into that now that we've been uh invited in uh there's as we discussed last last week's meeting there's a number of uh things that are going to be coming up so uh in preparation for the invitation that's on May 1 uh we we'll essentially enter into what's called module one for msba which is their is it eligibility yeah yeah algebra than feasibility is the next one yeah so so with that um ENT you wantan to you guys have any um I can just actually at the bottom of I thought that right yep so yeah perfect So within module one um there are a number of marks that we have to hit along the way so the first one is initial compliance certification uh due 30 days out um essentially with that it's a form that msba offers that basically requires three signatures so that one should be an easy one to hit uh on first 30 days uh 30 days later uh or 60 days from when we started uh we have to form a school building committee so so as we discussed at last week's meeting um there's certain roster positions that msba requires that think I think Mark loed himself there are certain msba roles that we have to fill so the the previous formation of the school building committee was a uh warrant article that was authored by the school committee in February 2019 so we will not be offering that as an article because it was previously authored by the school committee we're going to have the school committee author and the article to augment this this um this uh committee so essentially the the role of it is to keep this committee as is and then just augment it with additional staff members to fill out the bo um so you if you watch school committee meeting on Wednesday night you'll you'll see the draft of what they are proposing for that and you know we do that and then you know as as we walked through there are additional things in there that going to require input from the district uh education profil questioner online enrollment projections so um the enrollment that we re using previously this is a key note of you know we determined what the enrollment was when we were doing the the feasibility study with our street we told them sides the school for this size sides the preschool for this size msba will walk through and do an enrollment on their own and that will be the Baseline for what we're going to use as we get through eligibility into feasibility uh design um the maintenance and capital planning information is that one takes a while there's a lot that goes into that we're going to lean on Tom McCarthy a lot for some of that uh and basically what they want to see or what your assets are how you maintain them so they know that the future money that they're going to put in there is going to be well taken care of the solation they let it fall AC um the the second to last one that's there is local vote authorization for essentially fees ability study and we're going to talk about um the warrant article that we'll be proposing for funding of that feasibility study so that one you know they give you 270 days we're going to hope to get ahead of that by next February have it have it completed and done um so while module one gives you a 270-day window for the overall project um I think we're going to be progressing through it fairly quickly um my understanding of the May one invitation uh from msba is the do that to align it with the town meetings that the town has so we have our annual town meeting tyly in May uh so they look to have um the invitation on May 1 so it's a lot of me talking I'll open it up see if anybody has questions or anything like that in regards to you know module one two would be sworn back in then because it would be technically the formation of the new committee yeah for so no I don't think so you're talking sworn in by the town clerk like we were originally correct I think the original members would be fine I think the new members would have to see if if they want to do it a all again fine with that too yeah it wouldn't be like the last time we did it and they were assigned by the moderator um so I think I I I don't know yet it depends on the way we construct the warrant I think the way we're doing it is adding onto the existing School building committee it's not we already have school building committee it's editing the existing one versus yeah yeah and and like I said I don't have the details of the specifics on it right now it's all the school committee is working on that right now they're going to be talking about that Wednesday night when they meet in ipation they're going to take a vote on it too I just reading initially they're pretty rigid about their oh yeah msba yeah yeah yeah that so certain people are required yes yeah so I'll be on it Nick will be on it right yeah so they even mention um local rules and regulations and following them such yeah Aqua you get your hand up you recognize sir thank you um are there anything it seems like we've worked on this for five years is there anything we can pull from our previous work that could help facilitate or move the process any faster I know you're already talking about the Committees and all that has that been identified or is that something we will discuss later on in the meeting so that will be you know some of the some of the discussions we're going to have with msba as we start engaging with them yeah we just invited on Friday so we're trying not to overwhelm them too much right now but I I think internally within the town right now um we're working to kind of uh align everything so we hit the ground running you know I mean Mo most communities don't already have a school building committee formed right they they don't have the work we've already done so I think some of the work we've already done it will get redone again which will be good because it's more it'll essentially ride a pressure test that I think some citizens were looking for uh for that um and then yeah we have to go back and there'll be some redundant things that we have to do so we have to form a team again so similar process of interviewing opms and selecting an OPM we'll be doing that um three of us or who there are three Representatives they'll sit on a 15 member board on the designer selection committee that will again hear interviews for architects and engineers and you know weigh in on which one we want and that that essentially gets into module two um but as as we get through that we there's there's no harm feeding in some of the work that we've already done our Concepts there um to help educate what whoever we bring on the team to you know again help them hit the ground running too hope that ANS is what we looking for I did see too I looked up and um in 2023 in the invite stage um need him and Hadley were um approved for feasibility in October so and there were only two that did that so that to give us an idea of what's an aggressive schedule us being approved for feasibility by this October would be you know I reached out to them and I'm going to talk to somebody over there to see what they did you know what I mean because that that was a quick turnaround those two yeah so say to those School build yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah I mean see what they did because like I said they were the of the 19 only two of them made it and it was NM and Sal Hadley and NM actually had the same date as us they had a um May one commencement date so they're exactly the same and so Aqua does that answer your question just making sure yes it does thank you very much yes uh any other questions on feasibility studies or anything with module one can you bring the agenda sorry about that um so the the other one you know PMA was kind enough to kind of run through uh essentially a proposed schedule for us as we enter into msba to give everybody U an overview of you know what this process module by module is going to look like for us U Sean I turn over you to Sure dive into it can I share a screen or do you need to make you a you always deny i g make you a panelist going be a little hard to read to if I can read it might have a little easier time with it all right so um we just put together a schedule uh for the msba process uh I have the feasibility starting today that's going to have to get pushed out until um that may 1 date I put in the 270 days I also think we can do better than that I think that the town should be able to not use all of that time that's that's the limit and I think most towns do it in a shorter time period so maybe that's September 8th finishing that um would be the correct time so through that process uh you just had it on the screen all the different things you're going to spell out and then you're going to get into OPM selection um so assuming that you're going to start that in the fall um you'll do an OPM selection you'll do a designer selection um and then you'll start with their module the feasibility module which the first phase of that is the preliminary design program um and then we've spelled out the preliminary design program here the preferred schematic report program we have some items in here for permitting and um some other stuff some other items that we do early on in in the process um finishing up with your schematic design U and then uh ultimately the Project funding so if you get in uh to the msba and get them approved and start your OPM selection in September of 2025 we're looking at Project funding sometime winter of 2028 say Project funding you mean vote for that exclus V for D full full Project funding right okay um that's kind of a standard timeline with the MSP obviously some of this will have to change because of MSP board dates depending on we have to align it because this far out they haven't even set their board dates for that um also you know town meeting if you're going to have one in April or May do you do you target that or do you do a special in the winter so as soon as possible so those are all down the road discussions that um the committee's going to plan they they even stated in their letter that the projects open from budgets shall be no sooner than July 1st 2027 so that's very right even in their letter right so yeah you're not going to be able to well you can actually go for Town funding before that if you want but typically the Project funding agreement will set your budget and oftentimes towns decide to forego the vote until the MSB signs off and that project got your budget but it's it's a you know this is up on the Sher of Drive FR in wants to see it same place y I will update this as well and rerun it with the May 1 date just to show you kind of the an accelerated and then a a best case h scenario oh that's not that's not May first what you no i' have it in as as Friday when they select you I didn't realize they're gon to make you at the time when I was doing it today I didn't realize they're gonna make you wait five months um but I also do believe you can do it faster than the 20070 days so uh we can kind of use this as a an early schedule use the other one as a later schedule and then as we have further discussions the msba uh try to figure out what what's the best fit and where do we think we can actually achieve that compar to where we are today so right now we're we're basically at the end of SD um so our we would be submitting right now to the msba with our SD package or we would have done that I a month ago or when the SD package was ready back in October and that submission right now is um scheduled for November mid November 2027 and now we've done so B greatly help us uh yeah it it should I mean it's not going to hurt you for sure um but as everyone has said and that will keep reading the msba is a it's a process you've gone through the website you've seen everything they're going to make you in my understanding it's going to make you TI all the boxes so y it would be good once we get rolling and once they kick off the project and you have conversation with them to ask if there's any way that we can if any we can do with the information we already have um I suspect they're going to make you do your full submissions on the the PDP and then the PSR and go through your site selections and show them the due diligence you've done document that for the state level um plus we're working with their design new designer at that point right I mean when assigned by them or one of their list yeah well so the way the designer selection process works yeah it's it's technically you go through their designer selection panel uh this committee will have three votes on that panel and I believe have about 15 other others 12 12 15 total 15 total okay um so they will you'll go and you'll interview with the msba designers who you've uh shortlisted and then um well you'll do an initial round of interviews or inial round of um review of the submissions and then you'll do a short list you'll decide the msba who you're going to short list and then they'll have the actual interviews and you will be allowed to speak and tell them who you like why you like them and ultimately it'll be the majority vote of that Committee of which designer um in the past and historically we've been able to kind of Coach towns to make sure they get who they want and we've had a pretty good success in doing that I don't think we've ever had a town that got ass sign some they that wasn't their their number one it's been close in some votes but uh I think the msba listens um and as long as you present in the why you want to go with the designer they they're usually pretty okay with you know voting in your what but that's still a ways down the road so it's not to say you're gonna have a new designer um you could have the same designer you could have a new designer just depends at that point in time so we could stay with our street you could you'd have to my understanding is you would have to interview them you they'd have to go through the designer selection process and they would have to be voted and approved by the designer selection panel but assuming that they do that then yes you could continue with the the same design and they still like it yes and they well the other thing to if they have capacity to do the work as well you know things change over time and it depends on you know how busy they get um and they're not going to keep the slot open for a year and a half while they wait um but if the time comes and they have the ability they're open at the time if they're open at the time I hope that they would pursue the project Y and that goes same with the OPM you're going to have to my understanding is they're going to you're going to have to go through their process and uh Which is less rigid than the designer selection panel there is no OPM selection panel you um interview and you vote on who you want for an OPM and then that OPM goes in front of their msba board for approval but it's not a you it's at that point you sit in front of them you tell them here's our capacity here's what we're doing here's why the town will explain why they like you and and I only asked about our so because that my understanding was you're on the list but they're not on the list like the the approved list of um designers per msba no no I think they've done it I think I thought I saw okay I was under the impression that everyone who shortlisted was on the list specifically for that reason that we were all I mean Sean I think you said we were always pursuing the Dual track right right but so the the process that we did for selection on our own right we we mirrored msba for the language and the advertisements the rfbs and stuff like that we through it just wasn't an open Panel for msba to sit on so this time we're before so we're going to go through that same exact process to onboard OPM right so there's going to be a number of smitts they're got to come in get presentations there'll be Q&A we'll go through that and similar to how we voted last time I think we did a hierarchy of one two three and whoever got most one votes one um will then so we're we're allowed to do that for the OPM it designer end of it we only have three votes out of the 12 so you know we'll figure out who sits on that committee and then participate in there and see but the the reality is there's G to be a whole another group of Architects that are going to be interested in doing this Arrow Street may or may not be one of them if they are one of them then it you know gives an opportunity for us to do it but I still think they're going to have to come through and again because msba is so rigid run through all the options relook at sites relook at augmenting schools you know and stuff like that and you know if they come to the same conclusion or we we look at different uh options throughout of it I mean that's that's essentially why the schedule gets so long is we're going to go back and kind of review all this stuff all over again and basic by doing that like I said it's repr pressure testing the work we've already done so again in the hopes of that too not only is it good that we're getting you know funding from msba that'll alleviate probably hopefully some of the concerns that people thinking that you know we kind of run Road a couple times on our own um so it'll be good those early conversations with the msba are very important to frame the the project as well uh to let them know you know why you're building it's not that buildings are pass use of life it's overcrowding and then really be honest about what you want to investigate as as program because once they fill out that that feasibility agreement and they do the enrollment study and all that you are required to study everything that they put in that and because that's what you told them you wanted to um so oftentimes districts will go in and and put a whole bunch of different options you know multiple different sites multiple different grade configurations which still open is great so you're open but then when you get to um the PDP you have to study 25 different options you have to have costs associated with those options you have to explain them and do narratives and things like that so it becomes a lot more work where if you have a more narrow view on what you want talking through that the MSP and then they may be able to guide you to how to make it maybe a little bit more open but because you don't want to be too grent to your point you want to stay open and have some flexibility but you do not want to have to do 25 or 30 different options in a in a PDP submission I did see from the feasibility study reports that come out when they're invited in that towns had option you know they showed that they still had options you so you could see that yeah yeah I mean the the big thing for me is on the invitation letter you know when we got it it says a new additional elementary school or they also list the program that we're doing the Middle School seventh and eth with pre preschool so that's still being there it's acknowledgement from them of you know we know you've done some work already we want you to kind of keep going with that and look at it as one of your options but still look at other be open to other things so and they they've annunciated that on multiple calls which is good yes so as part of submission just based on that they'd want to see probably an ad Rena at one of the existing sites if it can support it or if it can't they're going to show you you want they're going to want to show how it can't support it and then also they're going to want to see an elementary school on the new site and a middle school on the new site and then any enrollment different enrollment options you have if they'll want to see that on each other the sites that you chose and and I should asked this too because this is in the invitation letter I'm still digesting it the invitation for the Cunningham Elementary School is for a continued collocation with the colot elementary school four grades 3ek through five and um is for the continued collocation so are they expecting prek through five to stay at Cunningham no no you know what I mean but if you read that you know if you're doing true black and white legal language I I just just saying you know saying that either an additional Elementary School the feasibility study to examine an additional School granted but the invitation is for the continued collocation with col Elementary School of grades those grades got to stay there we can add but when we're done grades PK through five is still a cutting end you can change it it's a whole process but you can change enrollments you can change grades just saying it because that's how it's I think the assumption is that that school isn't being knocked down or that school not knock down but stay there just mention this will be part of those early conversations in that first 270 day period uh between the school uh department and the msba about talking about okay what's the plan here what's your plan for your existing schools who's in your existing schools and they're going to look at all the enrollment data they're going to look at growth and all that um and come up with the different enrollment numbers and different enrollment options I know the letter said stated that if you if you move too quickly and if you don't follow our Guidance the funding won't be there essentially which is like a so I guess I'm wondering in terms of you were mentioning shortening the eligibility period do you have to check with msba at every little piece here to see like am I on track or not or how how will that work in terms of the m M SBA kind of communicating you guys look like you're on track or you know how did you end up there yeah I they'll be this process that you're going to now is usually before opms get involved um you know we know tangent tangentially how it works because we know what the output is uh but it's constant communication between uh the school district and the msba it you'll have a project manager they'll be assigned you'll talk about you know different options and then you'll lay out a schedule to hit it and they they'll walk you through it they'll hold your hand they'll make sure you hit all the dat they'll make sure you um they they don't want this to fail they want you to go through the process they want you to check all the boxes and they want you to move to the next step and they'll help you do that okay about the the com what's your experience with that just the comment about um invitation to the project scope and budget no sooner than July 1st of 2027 say we we were ready in in September of 2026 does that mean we're just sitting in a rating pattern does that have to do with how they they provide their funding or I think that's exactly right when the F they're making the funding available for July 1st of 2027 I think they're TR you know it's a grant program so they're they're trying to make sure that they have enough money to continue to fund the Grant and so I believe that's why they put these timelines I me we go faster for the next year and a half yeah I mean the one thing is you you can ask them they they're open and they'll have conversations we do but you know that's what without a change of that and without some which would probably take director level approval uh I would assume that that's the earliest that they would enter you to private your budget always ask for partial funding you get going well you may be able to get going it's just they won't fund you until the Project's open budget so there there may be an opportunity you may be be able to do it at risk without uh and then with the risk is that if they don't Grant you the Project funding agreement or something happens then you're going to be out whatever you put in prior to that happening yeah and that that that has in question I have is you know previously when we were kind of going on the other path we're looking at almost two design packages the roadway site package first and then the building package after um I'm assuming with msba they wouldn't allow that type of perform up front or would they just have do everything at once meaning after the project F agreement or or prior to that uh after no we we've done it on multiple IT project no problem um after what stage after so once the Project funding agreement is in place the uh methodology of U construction and how you bid it and bid strategies things that that they've been supportive is you just let them know what you're doing how you plan to do it um and Project funding is this July date yes so that sets your total project budget they will not give you can increase the budget if you need to later on but the msba will likely never give more money than the grant that they tell you you're going to give it that date that's when they set their funding for the year and that's making sure they have enough money to fund all all the projects that are entering at the time what is their margin of error for towns that I mean they they're setting aside a certain amount of money inviting a certain number of districts in probably there's some assumption they make that 80% of these are going to get funded or I know like some go through this process and then don't get funded so I I think there for their budgeting they're assuming that they're all going to they have to assume that they're all going to pass um and then whatever money doesn't spent either gets rolled into we'll just get rolled into the next okay um the next junk and they'll give it out to the next community that comes asking for it less you know if they go over then that next round of approvals probably is less right right that's why it varies it's not they they don't let in x amount every year it changes year by year based on tax Collections and what they have available yeah but that's at that time for Project funding agreement that's where they're going to lock in your reimbursement rate that's going to lock in your Grant and that's um and then then you go to typically that's when you go and get the vote from the town um sometimes you do it early usually if there's a presidential election right before uh towns have done that because there more welcome to the ballot but that's more of a a strategy from the committee how you want you're if it's a non-presidential year which just doesn't seem to be it would likely be you get the private funding the room and then you present to the the town for a vote November 27 the November election would be the zo St of the July 1st y well you got to go to town meeting first right to get it approved to go on the ballot is that correct so you might have right like we're doing now baby steps right now module module one module one there's a lot lot of stuff but just I pick out the color of the paint yes enough yeah I mean I mean the good thing is you know I mean it's good news honestly for everybody in the town you know what I mean oh yeah you know I know there was heartache or or concerns with the overall project budget when we announced it 173 million I was one of them you know what I mean it was it was a lot of money I think everybody was kind of shocked by what that that that was but essentially that's what constructions of schools are cosing these days like when we look at msba data um the good thing now is we can lessen some of that through getting this reimbursement with El for eligible costs so it's not a 45% reimbursement on the total project 45% of eligible costs and I keep saying that so people understand it's going to get diluted down um but you know it's it's an additional funding source course it provides you know a level of oversight I think some people want to see on this project and stuff like that from a state agency so it's a good thing there um and then you know you know for me this is a big step forward for us you know like I look we've been together we're coming up on six years and you know we've got land for it now we've got you know program that we think's right that we're going to run through again and now essentially we have partial funding you know from the state agency so we're moving ahead and you know I mean so I'm I'm excited it's going be a lot of work Peter I'm feeling it in a good way it's nice to see a pathway yeah that's exciting reminds me when I would land a contract and I'd go home my wife say why aren't you ecstatic why now I got to do the salesman's half was off and now the contract that was on you know and that's where we are I mean great news but now it's time to work yeah well not quite yet in May 1st but yeah there there's some things you can do in advance of that for sure getting yourself ready for that process yeah just get ahead and start on and that's that's you know I I think everybody's on board to do that so you know I mean the 270 day Mark we're not waiting for that you know 269 day running around trying to get all our paperwork in we're going to be way way ahead of that so just like right now I think you know we on the school building whatever the school building committee and they can be doing all these things we granted they say no what do they say you can't presubmit but you can have everything lined up yeah any other questions or comments on that agenda right okay point the agenda all right now I can share my screen so the agenda item 4B is review revised warrant article based on msba board meeting so as we talked about at our last meeting as I mentioned earlier uh we're going to have two warrant articles from school building committing one augmenting the the roster of us to align with msba um school committee has now taking that on so they'll be talking about that and going through it on Wednesday night so if you're interested tune in um the other one that we have is uh We've Ted talk about uh funding for feasibility study so again for that 270 days that that one had a 270-day mark on it we can get that done fairly quickly so we worked with PMA looked at what we thought would be a reasonable amount of money for a feasibility study um so I'll pull up the uh article I Nick sent it to me this afternoon I boed it to everybody kind of later today just so you can see but it's similar to the other funding articles that we've had so give me one second sorry than so for this uh what it does is it basically utilizes um the language Sim similar what we're going to find with msba any of these articles that we have to do they give you draft language M it sorry you go um they give the draft language with fill in the blank here program address pound stuff like that and then amount uh so we worked with PMA you know the the anticipation of $1.5 million for the feasibility study we think is fair um that will basically go to funding of the project team once once we get them formed in module two so um leave it open to see if anybody has any questions or comments regarding assar how is the uh dollar amount toide that so we what we did is so at our last meeting I showed everybody the um the spreadsheet what msba has and we went through that looked at similar programs that were there and dollar values yeah yeah so if you go to mba's website they have um their data from all the way back like 10 15 years obviously not using the funding not using the basis at 15 years ago because we've been in trouble but yeah so working with Sean Sheamus we've looked at it basically their recommendation was okay and that's the it says feasibility study so that takes us through modules one two and three I believe so module bring up to be um Project funding re the feasability study so this is the money for that feasability study at that stage yeah bring up to the vote to vote Yes so it goes to a feasibility study then the schematic is on after the toot no schema before theot this will bring it up [Music] toil not show fing the project after yes yeah that's marginal five so isn't this funding that feasibility stage that third module feasibility and schematic at atate yes both of okay for the 1.5 yeah so part part of the language that we have in in this too is obviously we want Town Council look at it I mean this is our initial draft is with anything we we recommend it up to the select board it goes to the select board Town Council reviews it and basically make sure we're covered for certain things there so if we have to include schematic design as part of that for their they again following their thought in their eyes and crossing the they said that exact same thing run by legal you know Tom leg cons they do that with a lot of stuff huh they do that with a lot of stuff yeah they do it's great it's a fantastic s got is that what they call feasibility study yeah that's why calls it so the total contract amount for Aros Street just because I was worried but this is enough but for the schematic design in stad ofs to do about half million 475 yep yeah so not on top of that the OPM as well 1.5 I was wor 1.5 was wasn't enough yeah just I just want to make sure we're not we're not like cutting it too close that we're we're g to need to kind of go back to town before we go back to town a third time [Music] yeah and if you do even more recent if you look at the existing times it's in that yeah I mean I do know I know Aros street are we we talked about the price that we were trying to get from that schematic was going to be tight the budget was TI like so well just it shows you the discount that Aros Street kind of gave to us to for a lot of this work with the hope of being able to recapture some of that on so Scott if you go to the website here for feasibility votes this is basically the language and the bulletin that they give that was actually that's the buling apologize that was a sample from mspa yeah so this is basically the this is what I was saying insert stuff here so basically this would the template that we use from msba so sounds good langage yeah I mean that's part of the good thing is you know I mean it's it's a framework that rented into and we just kind of follow on so um leave it open for everyone just got a review and take a look at it are you looking for a motion to approve this uh I would entertain one um I'll make a motion to approve the warrant article 20 as stated second to see if the town will vote to appropriate borrow or transfer from available funds an amount of money to be expended under the direction of the school building committee for a feasibility study of an middle school or elementary school project good second motion made and seconded any further discussion can I just ask yes sir what which committee is under the direction of school building committee we have two of them now right no no could just be one what's the one for the um msba that's just augmenting the existing Comm I see okay I didn't understand any other questions comments okay I'll stop sharing and we'll go to a roll call vote so johnan yes Mark Lauren yes Tim Lumbard yes yes Carrie Hurley yes Selena Miranda yes said I think Aqua dropped off so he was on earlier but and then myself yes unanimous congratulations could you p agend new business 48 hour items that is something comes up before after I post the agenda but we need to talk about it oh okay actually matter no you can't do that any all good so item six future meeting dates TBD I think you know for this meeting we are good for this year and I mean we've got the that I don't believe there going to be uh any actions warrant committee or anything like that between now and the end of the year um so we we want making schedule date sometime in January that works for people if you want to leave a TBD for now we kind of coordinate you know as it comes up but that might make sense just going on the calendar you might say tentative because don't we have the next board meeting I think was January 13th you might want to meet before that you want to meet before that the next slide for meeting yeah 13th or is the 14th yeah that's the next one El we loading I don't know I'm just saying whatever probably who knows what'll did Peter's point to just put something on the calendar so at least we're on the night before whatever I'm I'm fine with that so yeah if you if you put January 13th January 13th yep 2025 and so last agenda item is item seven in German so entertain any motion to so moved no discussion roll call vote John Cohan yes Mark Lauren yes Tim Lumbard yes Scott Terk yes uh Carrie Hurley yes Delena Miranda yes and work yes thank you have a good year [Music] he he [Music]