uh attached landing to the existing structure. The property is located in a residency zoning district. The pro proposed deck will be seven 7 feet 7 ft from the side lot line whereas
Milton zoning bylaws article 10 section 275 10.3A requires that new buildings or new sections of buildings be set back a minimum of 10 feet from the side lot lines. um
Virginia King. I'm the um zoning administrator and I will be hearing this case and deciding it um on a panel of one person which is pretty exciting. Anyway, um in the file we have the
application, the denial letter. Um let's see. We have uh visualizations of uh schematics of the proposed deck. Um, see, we
have letters um from neighbors to the right and left of the um subject property at 548 Brook Road and 560 Brook Road. And we also
have a plot plan showing that the uh exist the uh the proposed building will be golly, it's hard to
read. Well, I'm going to take it on on faith that the building inspector has has looked at this and knows that it is in fact 7 ft from the property line. So um anyone who speaks I would ask you to um state your name clearly and your
address and we can proceed. Now if you'd like to give me an idea of what's what's um just kind of give me a little bit of um the information about um about your proposal.
Hi, I'm Robert Sprag um at 554 Brook Road. Uh first of all, I'd like to thank for thank you guys for taking our time taking your time to um review our application. Um so, basically, we we just want to build a deck straight off
the back. Um, we will be removing some um we'll be removing a side staircase that right now is uh I think it's 2.3 2t 3 in off the adjacent property line. So once we remove that and then also we'll
be removing a garage which is um 6 foot uh 9 in off the property line and um putting the deck. So basically the deck comes straight off the back of the house. Um so a couple of things will be removing which will make it a little bit
more conforming. Um and basically this will improve um the house and and how we live in it because one of the best features of our house is the backyard and we're in it all the time. And as as of right now, we have the garage in the
back which kind of blocks everything out and you can't really see the backyard and it's kind of right in the middle of it in the backyard and it it's not really in a great spot. And we figured the deck would be a great great improvement on for every for our lives and um we have one kid now and we want
to expand our family and um it's just the backyard is really like our favorite favorite area and we want we're just trying to improve it. Um, and this is my know that I I live in the area. I know the house. I know the backyards are really special there. And you do have a
really lovely big backyard and it would be nicer to have some area for this little guy or gal to play in closer to the house. So, I I do understand that. Um, so so basically what what we're
saying is that this deck is going to be straight off the back. So, we're following the the the line of the house, which means we're increasing um the uh nonconformity prior existing nonconformity of the house and in fact
making it better because you're taking away that stairway on the side. So, um okay, if there's any other information you'd like to give me or shall I decide now? U my name is Caroline. I'm his wife. I live here at 554 Brook Road as well. Um,
no. I think he really gave a good summary of it. As he mentioned, the existing stairs that were there when we bought the home off the side of the house. We redid our kitchen. Um, so the exit off those stairs is gone now and we're hoping to go off the back into a deck and then out to our backyard. So,
as he said, those stairs are very close to our neighbor's property line and we'll be removing those. So, those are 2.3 feet away and we're going to do something that's 7.1 ft away. We've had those neighbors over to review it and see the plans and kind of walk through on our property itself and they have no
problems with that as well. Okay. Well, unless there's somebody else that wants to come in here and and speak about this, which I see there's not. Huh. I'm going to close the um evidentiary portion of the hearing and decide on this case. Um this looks like something
that's a win-win for everybody. you get more room and better room to to use your your home in. It's more um you know advantageous for your children and growing family. Your neighbors to the side that's most affected by this um as well as neighbors to the other side have
both agreed that this is a a good idea. Um I find that it does not well it might enhance it might increase um the the the occurren the large laress
of the um setback. It's in an area that's not very bulky in in a deck. So um it's something that um fits in with the neighborhood, improves your home, which I which improves the homes around you. So I am granting the special permit
and what will happen now is I'll be writing a decision on this. When that decision comes into to Bill um he gets it timestamped with the um clerk of the um town clerk and a 28 day appeal period
starts during which time somebody could come out of the blue and appeal this. Um but really the time for that would be now. But but statutoily that's what we have to do. And after that 20 days, Bill will let you know so that your contractor can come and pull the permit
for for building. And uh congratulations on your new deck and your um getting rid of the garage that's in the way of your backyard. Enjoy that backyard for many years to come. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you. Very welcome. Are we all set to leave the meeting now,
Bill? You certainly are. Awesome. Thank you guys. Have a nice rest of your evening. We'll be in touch. Thank you. While you shuffle raise, I am promoting you to panel. Camera should be operational and your
All right. Can you see me? Yes, absolutely. Great. Welcome to the zoning board of appeals with our administrator, Virginia, Don Hugh King. Thank you both of you for your time. Nice to see you. Nice to see you, Bill.
Nice to meet you, Virginia. Well, good to good to see you, too. Um, I'll be opening the the hearing on the application of um Francisco J. Rez Carvakavio. Yep.
Caravio at 22 Malbury Road dated April 16th, 2025 seeking a special permit or variance to build a 7 foot by 32 foot twotory addition to the rear of the existing structure. The property is located in a resident C zoning district.
The proposed structure would be built at a distance of 5.6 ft from the right side property line. Whereas the Milton zoning bylaws, article 10, section 275-10.3A requires that new buildings or portions of buildings be set back a
minimum of 10 ft from the sidelot line. All is therein set forth in set application and plans on file with the board of appeals. I'm Virginia Donkey King. I'm the zoning administrator and will be deciding um your um your
application here uh this evening. Um, in the file I have uh the application fee which uh application fee. Now I'm looking at that. No, the application for the board of appeals and um your denial
letter for for the building um commissioner. There is a PL plan of your property showing um showing the existing dwelling. And there are
architectural markups showing um schematics of the floor plans as well as exterior elevations um and a plan. Okay. So I I have got every everything we have here. Um so if anybody wants to be speaking at this I
will ask you to um state your name and your address so we have a nice record of all of this. and I'm going to turn it over to um the applicant to describe what it is that he proposes to do with his home. Great. Thank you very much.
Francisco Reyes Caravalo uh 22 Malbury Road. Um so the plan that we have, my wife is also on the line, but we're I'm at the office and she's at home, so I think she's just listening in. Um but the plan that we have is essentially to uh expand the the house backwards. We
have a porch uh right now in the back um that we want to close out and make part of the house. And also uh if you see the plot plan, we have the garage attached on the left hand side of the house. So we're bringing everything to kind of square with that line of the garage to
add some square footage to the property. Uh the main reasons for that is we're a family of four. I have uh we have two daughters, 13 and eight. Uh when we moved to Milton seven years ago, there were a little kid and a toddler and the
house was a decent size for us. But at this point, it's kind of it's it's become pretty tight. We have a single full bathroom and um and three girls that spend a lot of time in bathroom and showers and such. So, this addition will help us add a bathroom, expand the kitchen, and also it's a three-bedroom
house, but one of the bedrooms is the one in the back is very very small. So that will make the that room bigger so that the two girls each one can have their own room. Uh so it's really just gaining some more space in the within the space that we already have uh to to
be more comfortable for the family. Okay. I'm looking at the plot plan and I see that um the expanded home uh would be no closer to the the right lot line than it currently is. It would just be a
modest extension towards the back. Um, yeah. And if I might add, the the side there is not residential. It's a wooded area. That is the back of the parking lot of the church that's on Parkway on Blue Hill Parkway. So, there's no neighbor there. Uh, we we did talk to
all the other neighbors and and there were no objections, but there's no neighbor on the on that side where we are uh going to expand still close to the fence. Yes. I've noticed that it's a very wooded area and probably um they won't even see what's going on while you're doing the construction. That's
right. Which is nice. So um is there anybody else that wanted to speak on this or um is there anything else to add or shall we um move along and decide this application?
Anything hands raised? Okay. So, I'll close the evidentiary portion of the hearing. And um this this sounds like um it's a modest addition in a home where the neighbors are not where we
going to see what's what's even happening there. Um yes, it does extend the nonconformity, but only by a modest amount. It's no closer to the right side lot line than the current home is. Um, there's certainly a need to have more
than one family bathroom in these days. And, uh, you know, with a 13-year-old, she does know that this is the most difficult year of her life, right? Oh, is it? Yes, it is. I My 13-year-old was was quite awful. And I I think most 13
year olds years are quite awful. That explains a lot. Yes, it does. So that will explain that will um give her a lot more room to be able to be her own self for for that 13th year which I also wish
you luck on as well as I am um allowing this permit. So I congratulate you on um having that permit and um um and and and going through this process probably in the nice weather we'll be able to do this I hope so. Um,
so congratulations on your permit and I will be writing um up a decision for this that needs to be filed with the town clerk and at that point a 20-day appeals period starts. So um you're not able to pull a building permit until
that 20-day period has expired which Bill will let you know of so that you can um get your builder in here and get things going as quickly as you can. So, um, that decision will probably take a couple of weeks to to, um, get going, but I I'll try and work on that quicker
rather than slower. So, um, okay. So, congratulations to you and your family, and I hope that the building process is, um, is, um, lucrative for you as a family. We really appreciate that. Thank you so much for those words. Uh before I drop, is there anything that I need to
do from my side at this point or just wait for for you and Bill to do the filing of the paperwork and wait for the appeals process? Yes, exactly right there. There is one thing I after that whole thing you you probably want to file um the decision
with the registry of deeds so that run so that when you go to sell your house in 30 or 40 years, somebody might say, "Hm, this doesn't seem like it was supposed to be here." But it is okay. If you file that, that will that will keep your property up and current and no
question of legality of it. Perfect. I'll go over those details with you, Francisco. Okay. I'll swing by in the in the next few days. We'll bill and we'll we'll discuss further. Okay. Okay. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Have a great afternoon. You too. Thank you.
Bye. and Carol who I do not see here. Okay. Oh dear. Well, they are due at 4:30. Well, we're just about there. So, so VBA have some technical issues.
Mr. I'm promoting you to panel. Your camera and your microphone should be available now. Welcome to the zoning board of appeals. Your hearing begins in about two minutes. Hi there.
Hi. So, the board administrator Virginia Don Hugh King will be opening the hearing in about a minute now. Hi, Virginia. Hello. No, because lovely weather. Okay, it's now 4:30. I'm going to call
to order the hearing upon the application of Patrick and Caroline Tully at 11 Guliver Street dated April 16th, 2025, seeking a special permit of variance to build a 16 ftx 28 foot two-story
addition to the right side of the existing structure. The property is located in the resident C zoning district. The proposed structure would be built at a distance of 13.1 ft from the rear lot line. Whereas the Milton
zoning bylaw article 10 section 275-104A requires that new buildings or portions of buildings be set back a minimum of 30 feet from the side lot line. Um my name is Virginia Donna Hugh King. I'm the voting administrator and
I'll be deciding um this application um you know in the next 15 20 minutes. Um, in the file for the application, I have um the application to the board of appeals as well as the um the denial
letter for the building permit. Um, because of that um that um what is it? 13 foot uh distance from the rear lot line. Um, I have uh
elevations of what the proposed structure would look like on four sides as well as what the current house looks like on four sides. Some schematics of the floor plans um and some more technical things that um um the builders
will be very interested in, but I don't read too well. And um let's see. Clock plan. Where is the clock plan? Oh, I got the plot plan out here. Okay. And a plot plan showing um the strange
um shaped lot that this house sits on, which is the reason that we're having a little bit of a problem. Um so, I just would like to ask you to if for anyone that's speaking to give your name and
address so that we have a clear record of everything. And then um if you'd give me just a little bit of an idea of where you're going with this new proposed structure, the need for it and so forth, I would appreciate it. Excellent. I'm happy to to start,
Virginia. Um so, uh first off, thanks for for having me. My name is Patrick Tully. Um I live at 11 Guliver Street, as you mentioned. Um a bit of background, I grew up in the house. Actually, my parents bought the house um back in 1978. Um and and so my brother and I
were raised there. Um when they were ready to move over to Home, Inc. in Milton about eight years or so ago, my wife and I swooped in and bought the house from them. Um and Caroline and I have been raising our our three kids there. U we have a nine-year-old, a seven-year-old, and a 5-year-old. Um so
we we obviously love the house, love the neighborhood. Um you know, having grown up there, it's so close to the high school, it's so close to, you know, the town hall, everything. It's it's great to be kind of in that part of town. Um, so we love it. Uh, the house is old and I think it was built in 1937 and it is a
bit small too. Uh, it's 1500 square f feet which feels very small with the three little kids that I have at the house at this point. Um we um as as you mentioned, we've been working with a um an architect and a contractor um to develop a plan to take
our existing garage and mudroom, which is sort of this the the house and then attached to it on the right hand side is a mudroom and garage that are um the mudroom's almost like a threeseason porch. It doesn't have a foundation under it and then the garage is um to the right of that. Um it's it's old. the
foundation has kind of, you know, it's it's wearing down, the roof, everything is wearing down. So, we've developed a plan with um an architect and a contractor to um take that um side of the building down and rebuild um a new garage, mudroom with a bedroom and
bathroom above it. Um obviously kind of integral to our plan was to try to make sure we developed something that we felt like fit in with the neighborhood. Uh, as I said, living on Guliver Street, a number of our neighbors have built off to the back to make additions and and and to make the houses a little bit
bigger. Um, so we tried to develop a plan that would kind of keep in kind of the the form of the neighborhood. Um, one thing that is is instrumental, as you mentioned, having the plot plans there. Um, our existing um house is is sort of non-conforming on that side
where we have this funny sideyard being the top house on Guliver Street, the first one. We back up on the side to uh Cantav and then the back of our lot butts to Elm Street. So, it's this side area that is kind of in question. Um we developed a plan to not move any closer
to those neighbors. So, where the garage ends now is exactly where we want the garage to continue to end. We only want to stay at that 13 feet plus or minus from the um the fence. We want to stay right at that same line that it is now and just extend it further toward the side where you can see we have way more
room on the side to stay within the sort of um I think you have 10 feet from the side, 30 feet from the back. So, we intend to continue to stay where we are but move it closer to the 10-ft line on the side. Um uh for what it's worth, I've obviously become very close with the neighbors
over the years. I did reach out to each of them. I know the town sends a letter, but I did speak with each of them, walk them through our plans and what we intend to do. Um, nothing but, you know, full support from the neighbors that I that the director Butters that I spoke with. Um,
everyone was kind of fully supportive of the plan. Um, but, uh, like you said, I think that the the key issue here is that the the garage where it stands today is non-conforming. So, in order for us to take that garage down and rebuild it, even if it is to that same line, we we need to go through this
process. So, that's what brings us here today. Um, so happy to answer any questions for you or if anything was unclear in my kind of opening there, but uh hopefully that gives you a little bit of context on what we're trying to accomplish and and what brought us here today. Well, what um um on the neighbors
that you had contacted, I assume they are at um 645 Canton Avenue, 637 Canton Avenue, and 10 Elm Street. Correct. I I I connected with every one of my directors, including Sheila, who's
645 Cantav. Um the the two family on Cantav next to Sheila, 637 and 635. I spoke with both of those um families. um the the Brems behind me on Elm Street, the Demco's to the side of me, the folks across the street, um Dave and and Carolyn and every so I I I connected
with everyone that is within one circle of me. I know with the with the town, we probably sent it to um a broader range of folks as well. I think they sent it to, you know, everyone within 300 feet of my property, which on Guliver Street is a lot of people.
But you but you spoke to all of the of your abotic neighbors, which is great. And that's correct. And and honestly, we did that well before. Um there was a point where we weren't sure if we were going to need a variance. Um we had spoken with um with the the inspectors
at one point. They were thinking it it might be considered a sideyard. U they eventually said it should be considered a back just because of the shape of it. But um before we were going to need a variance, I I had run the plants by them just because obviously, like I said, we've grown very close with the neighbors over the years. So I wanted to
make sure everyone was comfortable with what we were going to do. And like I said, full support from everybody uh in the neighborhood. That makes a great neighborhood to live in, doesn't it? Um, is there anybody else that wants to speak? Any RA Haynes, please? No, there aren't. So, I'm going to close the
evidentary portion of the hearing and um decide on this case right now. This is a a clearly um um unusually shaped lot that that brings in um the problem um with the backyard being cut a corner
being cut out of that for that two family house on Canton Avenue. Um so you are not going to be covering more land already that that is that is already there. So it um it it while it increases
the non-conformity of the house by being a taller structure um you have the um the support of your of your neighbors. Um and as you say, you could in fact be um encroaching more into the the the
tent. Well, not encroaching. You're not encroaching. You could you could build another 6.65, excuse me, 3.65 65 ft to the right of the house. But you've chosen to to keep it, you know, a modest um addition as opposed to building out
completely, which um a lot of people feel the need to do. So that's um really keeping in in good favor with your with your neighbors as well as your own home. Um the need is there. having three kids in um you know these these three uh
these small three-bedroom houses is is is difficult as they get older. U maybe at you know nine, seven and five it's not as as crucial but it will be in a couple of years. So you could you're smart to be thinking forward on that and it's clear that you that you love this
house and love this lane and love this neighborhood. So it's um it's it's it's an important thing to keep up the house that it needed some work. um it will make your house more valuable which in turn would make your neighbors houses
more valuable as well. So um I am deciding that um by a vote of one to nothing that um you get your special permit today. So not today actually I have to write it up but um and that that could take actually a couple of weeks
but I'll try to get that going pretty quickly. Um once you have um once that is submitted to um the town clerk, it is a 20-day appeal period that you have to wait for before you can pull the
building permit on this. Um and once that happens, once that's approved and and the appeal period is over, um it it's it's a good idea to file this decision with the registry of deeds over in Denim. um just so that when you
decide to sell your house, you can show that this is in fact a legal addition as opposed to something that somebody might be wanting you to rip down. So um so congratulations on your um your permit and um enjoy the um or or try not to
disenjoy, shall I say, the closing process and look keep your eye on the prize. Look look forward to what that house is going to look like in a few months time. So congratulations Thank you, Virginia. I appreciate your time today. Thanks, Bill. Appreciate your time as well. You guys have a great rest
of your week. And if there's anything that um comes up or there's anything you need from us, don't hesitate to reach out. Absolutely. I'll be in touch. Okay. Bye now. Thank you.
Okay. You still in 45 minutes? Yeah. I mean, on time. We finish less than 45 minutes. Good job. Prepare for the next onslaught.