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Good evening everyone. Thank you. I'd like to welcome you to tonight's meeting of the Milton Select Board, Tuesday, July 21st, here in the Duny Conference room. I'd like to ask you all to stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. We now move to public comments. I don't

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think I see anyone in person. Oh, I see one hand raised online. Mr. John David Corey. We will have 21 minutes total allotted for public comments. I will keep the clock. Mr.

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Corey, can you hear me? >> I can hear you. Can you hear me? >> I can. Uh, your time starts uh now, sir. You have three minutes. I'll let you know when you have one minute left. >> Okay, very good. I have my uh timer as well. I won't take too much time, but uh

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thank you very much for taking public comment via Zoom. Sorry I can't be there today. I just wanted to take a quick moment to weigh in on a few agenda items that you guys have in front of you this evening. Uh the first one is Laboratory

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College. And just quickly um I really view it as an amazing opportunity uh for the town and actually an opportunity that um many towns would give their it for. I mean, there's a historical estate

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uh with some outuildings on it that has been used for a school. Um, could it be the answer for us? Just all of our uh overflow school needs uh for the lower school kids um in a historic setting. Uh I really could see u the site being uh

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improved as a preservation project and get the whole community involved in it. Uh and then perhaps once it's up and running um you know we could have uh the children uh as in and around this historic site uh with maybe outuildings

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that reflect the original use of the land. Uh really really engaging and I think it's a tremendous opportunity. So I would definitely support that. Um I also see that you guys are going to be talking about a Milton Village local historic district and I'm a big fan of

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historic district. I think they add a lot of value to the community. Um, so I would very much support this. I know um, uh, Meredith Hall has been leading charge on that and I very much appreciate her efforts there. I would just point out that all our main roads

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in town, Randolph, Canton, Elliot, Adams, Central, uh, Randolph Can Adams, they all lead into Milton Village. So that is our downtown. They're preserving it would be very special. and a local

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historic district. Uh be amazing. Uh you guys all know that I'm big into traffic mitigation and I see on the agenda uh resurrection of the traffic mitigation subcommittee that we had many years ago. Big fan of that. Uh look what we did on Randolph Avenue. We got the town

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together. We got the DOT together and we got the residents together. Robust conversation and we actually were able to make a lot of positive change in very quick order. uh hopefully upper Canton Avenue will be next, but I would very much support the traffic mitigation

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subcommittee uh being led by some of the select board members. So those are my comments. Uh thank you for your service and um have a great night. >> All right, thank you Mr. G. [snorts] All right, that is our only hand online.

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I will leave it for anyone in person to join public comment. All right, with that I will close public comments. And Mr. Corey takes us directly into item four, discussion of Laborate College acquisition and review. We've

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only it's only been a week, but Christ Milano, if you have any updates you'd like to share discussion, >> as we discussed in [clears throat] our meeting uh last week, uh we are awaiting our appraisal report which is expected to be delivered either this week or early next week. Um we have been in

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touch with uh the broker representing Laboreet just explaining what our timeline is um to receive that appraisal report and um submit an offer to to them for consideration. They understand what our timeline is. I requested if we could

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submit an offer following our August 4th meeting. They indicated that was acceptable and that their their timeline is to accept offers to ro August. Um, so in terms of where we are at, we are awaiting that appraisal report. Then if the select is going to make an offer

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that that timeline is, we've indicated, you know, early August at this point. Um, and the broker's indicated back to us that um, they're accepting throughout August. Um, so that's that's it on acquisition side of or potential acquisition side of the aisle for Thank

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you. So, uh, timeline extended through August with us waiting for our appraisal and then our offer being tendered. Thoughts or questions from the members? >> I'll just just one other data point we're waiting for. Um I'll just give an

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update from the school and I'll touch on it more detail on the uh committee updates on the school building committee but the deliverable from DRL DLR the architects the school building committee is engaged to um you know prepare

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initial findings for test fit for a prekk building is on track so that timing should fit in nicely to everything we're considering um in in August u what that means is next week. Um so in the school building

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committee yesterday we virtually looked at a draft report that is now going out to a pricing estimator. Um and we should have a final report next week. We I think school building committee select board probably soon after. And I think one thing we should be clear back to the

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architects is um expectations of um the architects are prepared to present or be prepared to answer questions on their report. Um you know summarizing sort of this options and pricing um on August

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3rd to the school building committee. The next site we have our meeting. Um, I suggested they like pencil that in on their calendar to come present to us, too. I don't see why we wouldn't do that, but we should probably just confirm that. We'd like them to come to talk, you know, answer any questions we

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have about the report, but um, you know, that see all seems to be going in in a good direction as far as their work and um, you know, I can get into that more um, in the school building committee update. >> Um, >> if you're okay, I think you this is a good spot for you. this concern school

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building committee update now. >> Yeah, no sense in two hours of suspense and coming back to that, right? >> So, let me think about so um what what I think what we're going to

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see in the deliverable are two to three options that the architects are going to price out. Um the first option um has to do with um sort of what the what the plan would look like to fit this prek

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project with no addition to the building. Some like maybe it's new stairs modest like additions but no large addition to the building. Um, you know, the asterisk there is that they can fit with that model something like

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in the report we came like 18 of the requested 25 classrooms that the school district leadership sort of identified as a good plan for the future here. Um, so that will be one option that's presented. Additional options that will

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be included in this report will be either, you know, both a twostory edition and a three-story edition, which would the twotory edition would um I think be the exact number of 25

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classrooms that the school committee and school district leadership identified as a necessity. Um the third option of a larger addition um just upwards would be a few additional classrooms to kind of

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plan allow for like 10 to 15% future growth possibilities. So I mean the report will do it more justice than that but I think they're going to come back with a few options. Um we did look at some initial drawings in the meeting that should be in the report. I'd

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imagine they had the addition um sort of in the front end of the property if you're looking at it from Adams to avoid knocking down that large tree um on the property which seemed like a really good thing but a lot of enthusiasm from the architects. Um so that that sort of

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seemed like a key takeaway. Last um following the architect's presentation, the committee members did talk a bit just sort of in an open agenda item about I if the town acquires a property

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and you know pursues consideration for the school, how that might may or may not fit into um you know an MSBA option. In other words, you know, at what point would the town decide whether to, you know, pursue this, you know,

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property, you know, in a potential school, um, either without MSBA funding or with and, you know, the chair received some questions about what that timeline might look like for each. So, I mentioned that in case that sort of helps you think about, you know, what

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kind of questions you might want to ask when these groups are presenting over the next couple weeks. Pete, what um is the was the process for a potential process for slotting

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this um the labet concept in like swapping it out as a substitute in the MSBA? Has that been evaluated or is there a process to evaluate?

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>> Yeah. >> And how long do they think it would take to >> I think uh Nick may be better [clears throat] equipped to answer that >> because I think there is a substantial delay if we resubmit. >> Okay. >> To put this site for different grades in

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with MSBA. That's why we're running kind of parallel right now. continue project with MSB goes on which we'll talk about later with OPM being um assigned. >> So is it the same full MSBA evaluation and approval process >> Mr. >> Okay. [clears throat]

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[laughter] I don't have a lot more to add to that because we have >> that's my question. We have asked that question of MSBA [clears throat] and the way they have they basically said if and when you control the site

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>> we can have that conversation about what that process might look like. So >> I think you may have actually told me this before too. >> I think they want control of the site determined. Um >> but it would not necessarily mean leaving the MSBA program in its entirety like submitting a new application then

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getting it then waiting. It does mean going back to an earlier phase. >> Yeah. >> What phase and how long that might take to catch you back up are the questions that we still have and aren't answered yet. That would be, you know, a key piece of this because if it's an 18-month delay or six-month delay,

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obviously that's a big swing to get reimbursement potential. So, understanding what that timeline might look like is remains kind of an action item for us >> that. >> So, our decision point here really shouldn't rely on whether or not we get MSBA funding.

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I would say no but our relationship with MSBA happens after our control >> of labor right so >> is there a place we don't know if we control lab MSBA to say okay well it'll be an additional six months and is that

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worth it to get back into the process but that's not something we can really evaluate until we >> have lab under actual talent control >> we're in a lot of uh hurry every week. >> I I mean for sure [clears throat] we're

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having the timeline has us having to make the decision on the property before we like we're you know [snorts] months away from I think certainty on some of those aspects. I think we should have an

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initial estimate of what um a school you know may cost there based on this initial diligence. um and then some big um you know decision points in the coming months. I

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think you know [clears throat] in my view and you know in the upcoming meetings you know that's a reason to you know and we talked about kind of turning back to this in August just trying to kind of map out some of those decision points and what we can do to um you know

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be well prepared for all of them. Okay. So that conversation with school building committee and the architects and that preliminary um presentation that they showed I think is going to be recorded. It'll be on road access I think in a day or so uh for us or anyone

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watching that wants to kind of [clears throat] get a preview of how the architects are thinking about labor being used to map out which we'll get the final or more mature version of that um in the coming weeks. Uh other

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thoughts from the members or questions? uh with the timeline of the bid being I guess a bit extended. Um, one thing that I want to uh point to is that when we submit our bid, when we get our appraisal, that in

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that bid letter, we make it clear to Labor Day and Curry that we are also willing to match if there is a higher bid because we've expressed it with them in person through email that the town is very interested. But I think at every point that we have that we can continue

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to reinforce that. Um it is important that we do so Nick and I spoke about that. Um I hope the board will be on board with that with us including that in our bid laying through to them as well is >> yeah we I mean in concept yeah I I guess

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I perhaps we could talk about like up to >> Yes. >> something. Yes. Right. >> Yes. Yes. [laughter] >> But but >> up to a reasonable amount. Yeah. It's not infinite. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> All right.

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>> If uh no additional points in elaborate, we will move to uh point question, excuse me, agenda five, uh state election, special election ballot questions. Um I don't think we have much update on this since we weren't looking to be on

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the state uh ballot. Um, fire station building committee is meeting later this week uh finalizing their uh their question if they're going to be on the ballot. But Mr. Milan, if I'm not missing anything, I think this skips us at this point.

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>> Yes. Uh that the board would have to act at its next meeting on August 4th if if there were a ballot question or valid questions to add to that state ballot. So the deadline is August 5th. So we have one more meeting which does submit validation. >> Okay. So item six, uh, special town

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meeting date and timeline. [snorts] Uh, the two presented to us are Monday, October 19th through Thursday, October 22nd, but Monday, October 26 through Thursday, October 29th. Um, I believe when town clerk was here, she had a

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preference for October 19th uh, for us to finalize that because it gave the town clerk more time as well as her staff preparing not only for our election and town meeting, but for the state election. Um, so I do believe we have to vote on this time. So yes, uh, please

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>> make a make a motion to, uh, for special town meeting date and timeline Monday, October 19th, Thursday, October 22nd. >> Second. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Mr. Trist, >> yes. >> Mr. Yes.

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>> Stoman. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. Item seven, discussion, update, presentation, approval of potential articles for fall 2026 special town meeting. Um, right now I'm going to call

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a little bit of an audible since Mr. Lawer is here. You don't have to wait this entire time. I did ask Mr. Laugher to come in and speak to us about um item K, which is the Milton Village Local Historic District. >> Um, thank you. >> Come and join us at the table.

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>> No, sir. I'm sorry. >> You can sit at the table. Yeah. Okay. >> So, we can get you on camera. >> Sign in. >> No, you got to sign in. That's where that's where >> Okay. Um I want to thank my committee members both Meredith and Brian Howerin

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for being here as well. Um we this is culmination of four years of of study and we have uh I looked at the memorandum that uh Nick shared with me with the select board. We've done all of

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that and a bit more uh but we're going to do some more uh with our final uh bylaw which I just heard is coming to us tomorrow and we have a meeting in August 3rd where we will ratify it as a as a >> [snorts]

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>> um our group and uh send it back to uh Nick for inclusion. Um we are going to do more community outreach. We're going to have more community meetings. We're uh supposed to have only one. I'd like

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to do three. Um we have numerous changes uh uh addressing all the concerns from the first town meeting, what was that two years ago to now. We addressed everything that all of the different

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committees who had um concerns uh with it. We went and addressed all of that. Um, we're waiting for that clean copy which we're getting on the public and we have public meetings discussion with

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Chris Skellyy and I'd like uh Meredith uh Chris Skellyy is well Meredith can you talk about >> Meredith is a a member of our committee but also as you know chairman of planning committee And I'm I'm new to this committee, but

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I'm very familiar with um with this study. I'm actually now the representative from the historical commission. And this has been um something that the historical commission has wanted to see. Although we have a number of um historic districts in town,

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but um starting with one, I think we all felt that the Milton Village would is the most significant. Um, and I actually, as a matter of fact, um, the historical commission a few years ago when Extra Space Storage was renovating some of the mill buildings and had

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acquired it, part of, um, they were required to, um, put together um, some literature, some information. And Anthony Samarco and the historical commission actually wrote, um, and put together a walking tour. If anyone has ever had the chance to do one of his

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walking tours, he does a walking tour of the Milton Village. This identifies the some of the historic it's a map. It's a walking map. Individuals can take this. Um the historical commission had these created um and extra space was um good

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enough to to fund this. But it's a walking tour that you can go and you can and you can read here if you're not reading Anthony Marco's books. You can actually look at this map and and see the significance of this location. what um it's also a local historic district

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has also been one of the goals of the master plan for the town um and has just we've never taken action on it and so this is um a study committee that's been working on this what I've um coming on to the committee what I felt this is the

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first time our town has ever looked at doing the local historic district it's very new and as much as Mass Historical has helped sort of mentor Larry and and the committee along and nurtured [clears throat] them and helped given examples of other towns. This is

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the first time that that Milton will be doing this and to bringing something to town meeting. So there is um a person and I I spoke to Liz Manning um and Nick about this that I really felt like it would be appropriate to um if we could

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fund a consultant um and find someone. We reached out to um to um MAPC to see if they do any consulting on this work. We actually learned and it was recommended Chris Skellyy who used to work for Mass Historical Commission is

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now a consultant in working independently and he works with towns throughout the Commonwealth to help them [snorts] to to help them go through the process whether it's going attending meetings um attending he actually has a presentation already put together for a

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town meeting and he can answer the questions and really talk about the pros and the cons of this and how other towns have how they have how this has worked in other towns or and challenges that maybe other towns have felt. He will give a very honest open um sense, but he

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would um be able to and Liz Manning was able to get a scope of work. He would be able to attend a select board meeting um as we get closer, a warrant committee meeting um which will be very important, a planning board meeting, again a historical commission, and the local

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historic district committee. and he would actually be able to be there at town meeting to answer questions that as much as again the committee is um is educated on there are questions that will arise that um that Chris would be

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able to to answer and I think it would be really helpful um for this process just so and whether town meeting votes it in or v votes not to have it I think people will feel very informed on the on whether a local historic district is is

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good for the community and um and why it might make sense in this particular location. So Chris did put a proposal um a scope of work together and it's not to exceed $10,000. So it's, you know, based on his time, he's um out in the Birkur,

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so a lot of the meetings would be remote, but he would be able to attend um at our, you know, um and we will have to follow up with him to make sure um he's still able to to do this work. But um if the select board were to be able to approve funding a consultant, I think

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it would be just I think it would be wonderful and um well worthwhile to really have um sort of the best representation as we go towards town meeting on this um because it is very new to to our community. There are some things that have happened

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in other towns that Chris is pretty to with his long history of of working on these things and he brings a uh level of expertise that as much as we've studied and and we have uh he brings an expertise from across the state and that

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I think is going to be very valuable for us. So I think >> I think that's >> I think that's everything and um I don't know if there's questions at this time. Yeah. >> What are we going to study?

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>> It's not a it's not a stud the study has already been done. >> Um it's actually most of the um it's most of these properties I think almost all of the properties in Milton Village have been documented and are on the national register. But what it is is

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explaining um this article what it would mean to Milton um and what are the benefits, what are the pros and what are the cons. So this there's it's not a study, it's a actual the implementation of taking this article that that will be

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moved to town meeting um and understanding it better. Who will just help with that process? The study, John, was was uh the difference between federal uh historic districts, state historic districts, and then the 12123

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uh local historic districts. So, we had to kind of parse what they there's um [clears throat] help and then there's restrictions on all of these. They're all very different and we had to study them to know what where we needed to fit in. So our study

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is done and and the Milton uh village is the area where we designated makes the most sense. It was one of those areas first of all where Milton was first founded at the very beginning was in Milton Village and then from there it's

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the only one that's not protected. Even though there's historical uh buildings there, there's not a historic district. One final thing, anybody can have their town, if your if your house is more than 50 years old, uh you can have it

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designated as as historic. You pay your money and you get a little slip and you're historic. Historic districts are a different thing. They come with some guidance and some [snorts] guidelines that uh >> and there's a difference between so the Milton Village and which is part of the

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Milton Hill is on there is a national um district. So on the national register, so it's already there. The problem is it's just it's a designation. It does not give um the a local historic district gives you tools to protect

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buildings. So if it's a national historic district, somebody could come in and tear down they could have come in and right now and torn down the Bank of America building. they could take down any of those mill buildings. Um, without a local historic district is and that's

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what the historical commission has been most concerned about is the demolition of the significant historic buildings down in the Milton Village. But but other, you know, buildings that have been altered, buildings that have been changed,

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those would be under most um communities, it's fine to tear that down, but when they rebuild something, you want to see it fit in with the rest of that neighborhood. So that's where some design guidelines standards are usually implemented with a local historic

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district. But it's primarily the concern of the historical commission is we just don't want to see things torn down that our town would would want to see torn down. And we do have a two-year demolition delay, but for a developer, they can just run out that clock while they're doing their architectural plans

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and and you know getting things ready. And um but that's and we still after two years, they can still demolish a building. So this is a local historic district is the only way right now that you can prevent a demolition of a treasured building to our town.

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>> We haven't uh felt any push back from uh homeowners on this. They seem to understand it. Um builders and and people who are working in that area who own buildings, they're a little bit more concerned. They have a legitimate

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concern because it's another layer of approval that they're going to have. But Chris Skellyy and I have talked about um being able to present how uh this has helped business um by protecting the community and and uh keeping the flavor

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of the community. Um so um I do understand you know the builders being concerned about it but I think we have enough guidelines um that say we can't go beyond this line uh that they should

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be comfortable with it. >> Yes. So my my questions were going to be mostly around um [snorts] sort of again like what what's the what's the intent or like what are the

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boundaries of where like the local historic district permitting process would be versus um the site review um process that like the planning board has. if you could like walk us through some of the

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differences there, whether um maybe some some of the information um gathered from the planning board process may just be rolled into this. Um and also too, I was wondering so this so

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separate question um I was thinking about something like the Hendry's building, right? and the condos that were built afterward. Um, so that there's that was demolition of the building and something built in

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its place. What just as like a thought experiment, if a historic if a local historic district had been in place and a commission um formed, how how might that uh process

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or outcome have been different um than what it is today? if [snorts] at all. >> It could be different in in so many different ways. Uh we specifically chose this area because it followed what the planning committee and was doing the

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implementation committee were doing. All of those people came and spoke to our committee. Uh we had spoken to the state and got approval for the preliminary bylaw and uh now we're moving towards that. There is a map that will be part

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of it that shows um shows the actual designations. We talked about going uh a tour and walking, but we're probably not going to do that >> public tour. But to specifically answer your question, those would be the type

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of things like that has a manered roof. That would be something that would a roof line design that would be appropriate in a historic district. Okay. So there's there's a nod to some classic elements on that for that building. So um the way it steps back

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back, you know, certain things to um mitigate the size and and to be um to relate to the size and scale of the other buildings. Um, so I think what it would be would be a a planning board. Um, it maybe comes before the planning

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board and the way the planning board and the zoning board of appeals sometimes um work simultaneously and sort of listen to each other's meetings and what the ZBA will rule is things that the planning board has made suggestions on. um the local historic district would

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have the the final say if there was something um that was more um more significant, but the design guidelines that we when we did the overlay zoning for Milton Village, we put in some really good design guidelines. So, I think a lot of

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those will be adopted by the local historic district would be my expectation because they're they're really good and they they talk about the historic character and you know, a lot of that could could be adopted um by this this committee's form. >> So, so really the the local historic

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district would um like the the value or Yeah. like the value the local historic district would bring the planning and zoning wouldn't necessarily

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would be on this aspect of demolition and what is a historic >> structure >> um designation that that would preclude or merit some type of serious gather debate around or

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that the demolition would be permissible. And there would be members, representatives from different um there's obviously realtors. There would be someone who a business owner would be on this commission. Um someone a realtor

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um it would be an architect would be on it. Someone from the historical commission. So it would have all of the knowledgeable people to be on this but >> and some town people >> and town people and from the district residents. Yes. residents um from the district and I believe is it at large

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also? >> Yeah, there's one at large person. >> So >> that's a heavier set person. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Ler, thank you for coming in. Uh one of the reasons I asked for you to join us is I recall last year when you were before the board um and you were going

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to submit an article and I just wanted to get an update as to where this all kind of stands as we talk a lot about um development and the different changes happening in town. So I have I have a few questions and we try to go through them one by one. Um my first question is

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on the consultant. Why hire a consultant now at the end of three to four years of work to explain work that they've not been involved in? >> I can answer that is because he can help

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us over the finish line. The [clears throat] push back that we have gotten from any well mostly business owners um was because there was fear that they would lose value in their uh in their buildings. They would be

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delayed and um the opposite is true in in fact and we can't speak to that because we don't have the district yet but Chris Kelly can. Uh second question um with as you

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mentioned chair hall uh the zoning overlay our got our guidelines already ZBA the planning board what is the value of this additional

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board when it sounds that we may be able to put in guidelines or have additions to the zoning instead of having another oversight or regulatory body. Um what happens if the planning board and the

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historical commission are on opposite sides of a project? um what what are the possible conflicts and what what's what's the initiative here >> that is addressed in the bylaw and and uh there's discussion about how those things get uh get worked through not

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just between committees but between [snorts] people and um and [clears throat] regulatory uh groups. So there's going to be a certain pecking order to it. It can go jointly or it could go separately. Um, we were very

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careful when we put together. We never wanted to be conquered or Nantucket. Love both of those places, but their boards are um egregious in the in level of control that they have. And Milton has grown for 300 years now, and we just

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want to have in another 250 years have the same flavor in some of the areas. We want to uh allow growth. I mean that's what's made Milton better than it was at the beginning. >> So to again um just to further um the

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guidelines are suggestions. Unfortunately we have our the bylaw the overlay zoning itself and then the guidelines are separate. They're outside of the zoning. So we don't have enforcement on those. We can't say you

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know we we would like for you to look historic. We would like for you to, you know, reuse, you know, similar materials when you renovate, but there's no there's no enforcement on that. Um, and there's also no control over demolition. So, this this level gives enforcement.

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It enforces the the guidelines can be enforced um and be and and be very realistic. This the article also, what I like about it, it allows the commission to give waiverss. So if there's a good reason that you know what maybe this,

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you know, one issue, you know, or something that was a concern on one building, it might not be a concern on the other. Waivers can be given um to to a developer if there's finan it gives it for financial reasons. If a developer comes in and said, you know what, this

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is cost prohibitive for me to to do something, that commission can grant a waiver. Um and again, we want to see growth in our communities. We want to see development, but we want to we want to see good good development. And I will have to say JD Wild is doing a beautiful

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job and has a great vision down there, but not every developer who will own property down there is a JD Wild who will care about that level. So it's this is you know if that was the standard for everyone that's you know what he's doing

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would be basically you know what um you know or what are in our guidelines and it just would be able to be enforced with other developers who might not really care. >> He would be a good member for the next committee JD. Yeah, we'd love to have

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>> uh one more question and this goes to what you mentioned earlier um with community meetings and folks who've had concerns. Um can you tell us who's had input into um the article as well as the work of the commission and

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who were the community members that had that you've addressed their issues with the ones you've met with? We've been in front of every single committee that that is is important. Uh and we've talked uh to other towns and we've talked to the state. So we have um

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gathered information from every area that we possibly can because we had the extra time. >> What are some of the towns that you spoke about? >> Um uh Subbury. Um uh I can't remember

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the name of all of them. uh the >> Hangingham. >> Hangingham was one >> um conquered um uh Cambridge um Actton uh just a kind of um you couldn't find a town that's exactly like Milton. Um but

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we found towns that were similar like Brain Tree and Canton are are dissimilar and I don't think they have historic districts. They have historic uh buildings. >> Other thoughts from members questions?

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>> Couple thoughts. First of all, thank you both. Um and Mr. Lawer, I've seen you give presentations on this for a few years now, so thank you for um how long you've been at this. Um I I guess I just want to plant a seed um that you can

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either answer now or think about when this comes back to us. um I imagine for our input on the warrant article um you know the tension of where I'm at in thinking through um you know it's probably not going to

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surprise you in on the one hand um the the historic the you know value and choice behind the you know the village selection is obvious to me I the tension I wrestle

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with is um on the other side the appetite for some incremental development in that area. Um because you guys brought up JD Wild I I think to his public comment

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um in January of 26 on this topic. Um and whether or not I don't know if those are still his views, but let's just say that they could be representative of some you know the commercial view which you've already acknowledged that um another layer um does it does it deter

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um you know the right kind of businesses from um wanting to come to that area in the way that we want to attract it? Um you know that that's the tension. I'm just putting that out there now that I'm trying to personally be more educated on

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by the time it it comes back um you know for us to take some kind of vote on this. So you know that I would welcome more um information on and if if it's you repeating yourself I apologize for that.

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>> No no you know Chris Skelly can come in and say >> these are these are the positives. this is why towns do adopt it and this is what what we would be you know what it entails >> and the results from the from the towns who have implemented it

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>> and success stories or you know things that >> we can't talk about that because we don't have >> Could you could you and I'm jumping around but could you just the other thing I was going to ask about was just Chris's understanding Chris's background a little bit more um >> he was he worked for Mass Historic >> okay

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>> when we started this the woman's name was Jennifer Doerty and she was responsible for reviewing our uh original proposal and she took us all the way through the process. Um she's also moved on. Chris was in her job

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before her. So I I think it's community liaison. I I can't remember what their actual term, but there's somebody in the state uh historic commission who's responsible for towns doing this kind of stuff and and being in compliance with

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state law as well. And we did reach out to Jen Dhy originally, but because she had worked when she was on the commission to financially now benefit as a consultant, she felt would be a conflict. So, she um recommended Chris. >> Thanks.

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>> Um I just have a comment similar to um Pete's. Um I just worry about the barriers of having folks come in for the for business and I understand that we want to keep the character of the community. So, I think finding that balance and making sure that businesses

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have a have a good experience through this process as best we can. >> We've talked about a public meeting for just those people to have them. There's like 10 of them. There might be more, but there's really like three of them.

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And we'd like to be able to actually have them come in and talk and have those conversations before we get to town meeting. Just a couple questions. How many buildings does this entail down here? >> Uh because some of the buildings you're

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shown in this are in Boston. >> Yeah, this is a this is a >> I understand. I'm just saying how many buildings pertain to this in Milton. >> I I I don't have that in my head, but I we did. >> We're starting at Chapman's calling Gleon. The building next door is in that

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historical district, right? >> High street. >> It's High Street. High Street is definitely. >> Yeah, those two buildings at the top are high. I'm just trying to think what's historical down there. >> High street to Elliot Street and up Adam Street. >> For how far? The telephone building >> and up.

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>> I think right before that. >> Yeah, I think that the map in the backines. >> No, I understand. I'm just trying to think in my head, Nick. >> Historically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, exactly. It's right before the uh uh >> because right at the the the storage place that's Boston behind it, right?

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>> Correct. No, no. >> There's two there's two mill buildings which sit on the Milton >> Milton side. >> Yeah. >> And what about that building they were supposed to build out front? They have a uh handicap ramp now going down there. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, I've been in touch with um Ned Extra. They were all their

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permits were all set, ready to start um breaking ground and the real estate market fell apart in 90 was 94. >> But there's a handicap ramp there now. And so they they actually purchased an easement from Extra Space Storage which was negotiated to have that easement and

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they've said that should Extra Space want to do a development there, they would work >> with together. >> But I want to thank your whole committee. I think it's great. >> Yeah. But we wanted to see that building built. >> I understand. But everybody's forgetting they still have to go through the

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building inspector. Your group might be easy to do all that work, but there's nothing on the fire to get going down there >> to start >> to start that project. But >> no, to start work on some of them buildings.

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>> Um it's it's really um right now there's there's a plan for um the building across from Bank of America. Um there's a concept plan there that JD Wild has a great concept um in in doing saw that he's also acquired um 60 Adam Street

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building. So there's a there's a plan to keep the commercial there do residential up above there that may come first because there's some issues with being on the river that um he has to work out. >> Yeah. For the So there's interest.

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>> Yeah. Oh, there is. And I think the the nicer this area becomes, the more attractive to businesses. To answer your question, and that's what I've heard. It's documents um there are there are multiple reports um

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that are how this improves an area and financially improves um a neighborhood. So that would be the call. >> John, thank you for your question. didn't think of something else. Uh, in addition, if we're talking about you

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talking about just how the execution of this all works, we're talking about a historical district versus designating buildings as historic. When you're talking about keeping the character of an area, is that this

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article is about establishing a historical district committee. Does that committee then create the guidelines that make a new building or renovation historic or in align with the historic district? Are you then creating

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what elements uh like make this historic or not or what can't be changed? Is that the next step if this committee if that committee is is is >> we follow the guidelines that the state has given us and there are um specific

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guidelines that they say when when it's historical the real specific thing you have to save is one representative building of that style. So um you could have four of them and three of them can

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go one has to stay. So the commission would decide which one would represent that. But I don't think that exists in this particular one. I'm just trying to answer the questions. >> The next the next committee, the historic district committee that is set

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up as a result of this bylaw could do nothing and just take projects on a case- by case basis and >> approve them or not approve them and they're if they're not approved, they can't get a building permit. they are approved, they can get a building permit subject to all the other regulations

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that are in place. The the committee could also say, "Let's establish some design guidelines so applicants know what to expect from our process." It's not a requirement that they do so, but they could and then they should kind of stick to that, but that would be one of the steps that the next committee

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establishes or resolve this bylaw could take. >> Does that need to be named in the article here? >> What happens in the next step? It's it's authorized in New York. They're allowed to establish guidelines and other regulations as they as that committee. >> Well, not in terms of the allowed. Do we

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need to make that >> be required that they shall >> town meeting? One of the parts that we added since uh the first town meeting and now was um what repercussions what someone who is

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not approved what what the process is and um we define that within the new bylaw [snorts] where does the funding for like a consult like this come from >> got to find it under the shell. >> Yeah,

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>> I think that was a new >> Can can I ask one more question? >> Mhm. >> So, you could make buildings that are just operating the way they are to try to be historical, right? You can't command them >> to change their phase facial and all

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that stuff right under this. >> No. No. >> You wouldn't have a They can stay the same. >> Oh, absolutely. >> Yeah, they would stay the same. Yeah, it's only when when it change like it's grandfather Dan. If you have bad electric, as long as you don't do anything in the house, you're fine with

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your bad electric. >> Yeah. All right. That I just don't want you to force >> no to do something. >> The dentist group there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, we wanted to make sure of that. Um, some

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of the towns are just uh egregious in the way that they they demand and it it costs more to do those things and it slows the process down. >> Thank you. Maybe in 10 years we'll see

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this on Chronicle. That'll be on Brian Brian will present that day. >> Chronically within um any other thoughts or questions from the members uh process question Mr. Milano

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uh for there to be a formal submission for the request of a consultant what would be the next steps? >> I I think it's been submitted. So, it's a question of whether the subport has the appetite to fund it. Um, I would be

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reluctant to start spending new money on July 21st of a new fiscal year. >> As would >> we were in a different kind of position last year because we had significant vacancies within our budget that we knew would take some time to fill. But this year we're, you know, in a safe place

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where we're expecting to have everybody for people here and others. >> Um, no, but I think um, so >> there's no more magic act. >> I can report back on August 4th if that would be helpful.

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>> Uh, yes, this table is till August 4th. Um, I also would not want to just throw this out there in a meeting for a vote without some further discussion or consideration. Just wanted to know the next steps in the process. Let's take my fourth floor for >> our next meeting is August 3rd. So it's

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August 4th. Planning board may have a little cash laying around just throwing it out there. >> We wish we wish. Yeah, >> we're recottifying our zoning. That would be >> great. All right. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Thank you so much. >> And uh perhaps the best way to go through this. Um Nick, you want to just walk us through each of these your thoughts and then we can kind of respond or >> So a couple of these you I did prepare

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and have drafts in the packet. Um so starting with the appropriation for water main improvements and I'll pull that up on a minute. We have a request from the BPW engineering to appropriate additional money for water main

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projects. Um we typically appropriate um about $600,000 each year at annual town meetings and we ha however we have access to more money than that from the NWR right now.

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Um there's upwards of $4 million that the town may access um from the NWR at a 10-year no interest loan. Um so DPW engineering is interested in bringing forward um accessing that appropriation and that that grant money avail that

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loan money available to address a couple of water main projects on Governor's Road as well as Franklin and Basset Streets. Um just with the work that's going on in those area well Franklin Bass particular with the work that's going on there doing the water man while

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the disruption is happening rather than coming back in a couple years to start disrupting that neighborhood again. Um, so this is a draft article. I'll just note that we're still looking at it just to it's bringing forward um projects that

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we anticipated happening in later years. So that has a knock-on effect into what the operating budget of that water enterprise fund can absorb, which then would translate to higher than expected rate increases. So I will have a recommendation from the board on August 4th, but I that's that's the crux of

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what the request is is additional borrowing additional money from the MWR to tackle a few more water main projects sooner rather than later. Um Governor's Road [snorts] Franklin Streets beyond the projects they had already kind of lined up. Um so we're still working

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through the cash flow and the impacts of the operating budget. So I'll report back on August 4th with the recommendation, but happy to take any questions. All right. when they doing that building for you couldn't get them to help you do the water man. >> They're helping with the road and the pavements. Um but the water man was not

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part of the conditions of the permit. >> But they will they do will they do a full like replacement of the roadway like >> Yes, that's part of the >> like full depth reconstruction or just like a mill and pave. I mean I assume if

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you're doing water mane work it's like a whole >> after the amount of work that will have been done on those two streets using source national grid our us storm >> water everybody's going in there >> to touch it so we're going to end it with clean

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>> um in that vicinity. >> So that's that's the scope. It's just we're concerned in terms of [clears throat] financial impacts on the operating budgets that then would translate impacts on water rates. We're just looking for a little bit of that math in that. >> And what's the deal with governors right

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now? What's their road condition? >> The lower end, right? The lower end brick. Yeah, sorry. Lower end. It's that that main has experienced issues. So, it's it's that is really driving it is the just the >> the breaks that we've had in that area

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>> in terms of the construction. >> Okay. So not so that increase from 1 million 179 that we used to that was previously appropriate or that's currently appropriated to get to the 22 280

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is any the one thing I was just confused at is is any of that just outright grant money or is it all borrowed money? >> On the water side from the MWR we access 10year no interest loans. Okay. on the sewer side, they incentivize sewer work

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more because it reduces their cost on the back end as as it mitigates um additional um treatment flow that they have to treat. So on the sewer side, it's 75% loan 25% grant and they provide more in

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funding. So that's close to $1.1 million on an annual basis of 75% loan 25% grant. Do you have a um a capital needs statement on like water

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manes in the town? >> Yes, DPW has a rolling 10-year capital plan for water that they have been trying to stick to as >> I think it goes through 29 I believe. I'll ask more about that capital.

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>> All right. >> All right. Uh the next one is uh blank in terms of the language in the article. Just the the purpose is that if the whoever remembers a couple of months ago in or maybe last month when Amy was here

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talking about the surplus bond proceeds, we applied a bunch of surplus bond proceeds to fiscal year 2026 debt service. Um so those were projects that had less than $50,000 or less surplus bond proceeds. If there are projects

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that have been more than $50,000 of money left over after completion or the project was abandoned and not done for whatever reason, if we brought in money for a project and we have money left that is greater than $50,000 to do something with that requires a vote of

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the town meeting. Um so we have identified a couple of potential surplus proceeds that we would like to take and apply to a different project. Um so it's more or less a housekeeping item. Um it's just we're trying to work with BCOA

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to identify um the proper way to do so. So we're working to wrap that up and hopefully we'll have that ready on August 4th. If not, we would just pull it out of this town meeting, but the goal is to to have it um done for this town meeting. These are some older borrowings for projects that for one

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reason or another the money wasn't needed, but we borrowed the money from the markets. So we just need to address it to to do the financial Right. And then the next one is um this is an recommendation regarding

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the current year budget appropriations in fiscal 7 state aid um payment to the town. Um that came in $363,000 above what was expected. So, there are a couple of options. We

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could do nothing. We could just um receive additional state aid and reduce the tax levy that we assess the the taxpayers. Alternatively, we could increase our appropriations to make up that $363,000. Um what this article proposes to do,

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what I would suggest is that we do increase our appropriations. We put this money into the reserve fund. Um, as we just discussed with the fiscal year close out, the reserve fund will be available to um under with the approval of the MAR committee to be transferred

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out for extraordinary unanticipated expenses. Um, with the snow and ice year we just had, we were fortunate that fiscal 26 expenses ran light, but in a year where they didn't, we could have more of a problem. So, one thought that I had was to move this money into the

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reserve fund, set it there, hopefully not have too many things that come up that we need it for. Ideally, it goes unspent, but in a worst case scenario, it is there accessible from the approval of the market. >> And I'll just note in terms of our fund, we are we have facilities working

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through a boiler issue at Cine, one of their two boilers. um may be completely out of commission. So that is an example of an unexpected dispense that we may have to undertake. School on one boiler, but it means we have more redundancy. Uh so the facilities department is working

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through that whether it could be a repair or if it would need to be replacement that would be a substantial expense that need to be more budget already this year. We certainly didn't anticipate something. >> Just one quick question out of curiosity. Um

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I um totally understand if you didn't look at this, but did our increase in state aid was was it comparable to other similarly situated towns in terms of the increases others received? Um I mean was

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that pretty methodical how that happens or or are we kind of receiving it differently? No, I think at this point with the student opportunity act, which was a change to the chapter 70 formula, at this point

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when additional money is appropriated by the state to state to chapter 70 education and aid and other categories, it's pretty much shared kind of equally. So, we're not an outlier on the high end or the low end. Um, I think there's been some talk about changing some of the

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state formulas. Um but for this year we're there was just more money generally put into the state aid accounts and that translated to additional money per month and and we estimated pretty conservatively and also just stuck to the governor's budget in the house and the senate increased those

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expenditures to our benefit as well as um if we put this money in reserve fund say we don't use it for snow or ice or a boiler then at some point it could go into capital projects. Yes. >> Would it have to go back to town meeting? >> It would close out. It would be it would

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contribute to next year's free cash calculation that would then give us um flexibility in the following year. >> Okay. >> So, yes, in the long cont. >> Yes. Not this year. >> Okay. >> Right. Uh for committee preservation

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committee appropriations, the CBC met last night. then are recommending in a recommendation or are recommending an appropriation of $300,000 for the Tucker School playground project go to the Falltown meeting. Uh so we will work with CBC to pull that article together.

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But um so they they voted on that last night. So it is u being submitted to fall. We just need to put the language behind that article together. [clears throat] Um, and the purpose of that, the Tucker PTO group was advocating for getting this money in early so that they would

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be able to potentially line up the project for summer 2027 construction if we'd waited to our regular routine of annual town meeting votes to appropriate CPC money. We wouldn't have been able to take advantage of potential summer project next year. So, uh, this is good news and I'm sure they're they're happy

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to hear it that we still have a little bit work to to wrap up the full projects. um budget, but this is this gets um another big piece of the puzzle put together. >> Great. Next two uh are kind of cominging the

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library college acquisition corporation. So, we're working with town council to to have a draft article just prepared and obviously depending on how and how that shakes out, we'll we'll have to see exactly what that language looks like. is a fairly standard article language

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for land acquisitions that KP has recommended and then we would just plug in the particulars for the Milton example um if that moves forward. And as I indicated at a prior meeting, you know, discussing with school building

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committee whether they need a new appropriation or to amend a prior appropriation to to take on some design work going forward of the Lay site if we do acquire it and it is moving forward as a school project. Uh so we'll have to get some resolution on that um in the

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next couple weeks. Uh fire station building committee is meeting on July 28th. uh to discuss their next steps on Athetherton. We expect an article for fall town meeting. Again, these are fairly standard articles. So, we will just work with compound council to wrap that up and

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have that [snorts] ready for August 4th, assuming um there's no change in their game plan for this year. And the planning board is meeting again on Thursday to discuss among other things the short-term rentals um bylaw that they're working through. Uh it's

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they're seeking some comments from staff, which is something we're working to turn around now um to regulate short-term rentals. Uh the way this is currently drafted is it would require that short-term rentals um would only be

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authorized for owner occupied or owner adjacent. So, you know, you own the building, you own the house and you rent it out or you own um and you live in the ADU and you rent it out the primary dwelling or some other kind of arrangement. So it it does target and and allow only for those kinds of

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situations within our occupants um going forward. And there's other elements in terms of inspections and other regulatory aspects that we're reviewing internally to provide some feedback to um

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>> and then next to we >> could I sorry one thing it we may talk about that a few times but if there's like a particularly substantive day we're talking about that that article when it comes to us I was thinking it may make sense to have one of the town

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councils there um potentially who's been pretty deeply involved in the drafting of that. >> No, Caroline Murray from Law has been in um very involved in in drafted it. So, you can certainly ask her.

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>> And can I ask you a question? In current state, are there any short-term rentals that we're aware of that have not owner occupancy? They're just fully vacant. So right now technically >> I think I know of one but

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>> they are not >> it's >> none are permitted whatsoever. >> Okay. >> Now they are operating. >> Okay. >> So I we don't quite know who's operating what how often. Uh the do has the department of revenue has a list of those that are registered

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with the state. Um I think there's about 74 properties on their list. They don't ask for in Milton >> since >> that sounds a lot >> since this it's caveat with those are the ones that have chosen to register and done the right thing and registered

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with the state. >> It's since the beginning of the program where you have to register with the state. So it's not an annual list. It's kind of cumulative list. So we don't have good data on it is the bottom line. I guess what I'm trying to say could no longer be functioning. There could be

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more than 74 if folks have not registered and there could be 74 registered but not 74 operating. Yeah, we we really don't know unfortunately. >> And can I ask a follow-up question? Um what are the downsides to the nonowner occupancy? Like

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I'm just wondering some of these potentially are you know owned by people who live in Michigan or something. How will we rectify that? So the way the new by the bylaw as drafted proposes to to be allowed to operate in Milton you have

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to register. So then you have to prove that you're an owner occupant. In terms of the downside of owner it not you know the downside of allowing nonowner occupied AD or Airbnbs and everything else is the idea of you know companies

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or LLC's coming in buying properties and taking housing off the market in order to operate as short-term rentals. Now that's that's impacting our housing market negatively for their you know shortterm. >> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Or like hope they're like running hotels or something. Yeah. Yeah. >> And what's meant to be a single thing >> I will just note I think in in some of our initial conversations is and what the bylaw as currently drafted requires

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an an inspection by town staff prior to being allowed to be to operate as well as annual inspections. So if there are 74, that's 74 additional inspections, building, fire, health have to do on an annual basis. That's a significant

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burden on top of uh limited staff and limited resources. So trying to think about ways to want to be partners in that regulatory environment, but also being cognizant of the pressures that would put um these departments under. And for fire, as an

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example, they have a lieutenant for fire prevention who does all of this work. So that's that's one employee. So it just adds a significant burden. Um, and part of the problem being the lack of data. Like if it's five, it's

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probably manageable. If it's 100, less manageable. So like it's just not knowing what the turnout will be is part of um what makes this tricky. And the two articles that are listed are related back to that short-term rentals. The first one would allow us to collect

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a local auction hotel rooms tax on them. And the next one would allow the town if it if it wanted to to impose an additional 3 up to 3% community impact fee on short-term rentals as well. So that's where the the local revenues would be derived from in addition to any fees that included in the bottom.

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>> Can I ask another question? Um if that we are become aware of uh nonowner occupancy units that are happening now, how do we take action to get these into compliance

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with the new bylaw? If it >> with the new bylaw, it would I believe it's a noncriminal disposition. I'd have to look at it. It's a fine. >> Okay. Um, and I think those can start to add up, but I will verify just

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>> and the last article that's not listed on the agenda, the other one that um we have been notified about and I I was aware I was completely blanked on it for drafting the agenda is again more of a housekeeping um zoning article related to MBTA Communities Act zoning. If you

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recall that conversation, as I'm sure we all do and do recall, um there an element of it was the affordability requirements. So the state regulations allowed only 10% of allowed cities and towns to put a right requirement that

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only 10% of units um be affordable unless you could demonstrate with a economic feasibility analysis that a project in your community could support a higher um affordability requirement.

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Uh so Milton through MAPC um did an economic feasibility analysis the planning that the planning board reviewed that determined that yes projects in Milton could support a 15% affordability requirement at 80% of the area median income.

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That triggers language in our existing bylaw to put that into effect once EOHLC the executive office of housing and liberal communities approved it which they have. Um, so right now if you're in that new communities district, you have a project of 80 units or more, you're required under our zoning to uh build it

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with at least 15% of the units being affordable. The article that's been submitted by planning board would just strike the reference to the 10% affordability requirement that is no longer in play. Um, so it's it's really a housekeeping item. What is currently

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in effect and [clears throat] remains in effect is 15% affordability because we did the work to do the economic feasibility analysis. This article will just strike the now no longer relevant 10% requirement uh to of that language.

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This our first run through the student order. Any other thoughts, questions? All right, let's move to item eight. Discussion approvals like board goals and objectives. We've had this for a couple of weeks now. Any points or changes folks would like to make or

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edits to any language? If not, I will take a motion to approve Just can I ask one question first about striking 2.2 two which was the um sort of an economic development um

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committee. Is the thinking there that the work will just live with the consultant and the two board the select board and planning board without a central committee.

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>> I didn't realize we struck that up. Um, I took that as we didn't need a committee since we were just beginning to complete the economic development plan. I thought that would be a next step is how I read that unless I think you intended to be different. I

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>> I think I think it came from the conversation of we're going to focus on doing that work with the planning board as you alluded to. So, the idea of having the second committee was being dep prioritized as a goal. um maybe it

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would still be a goal depending on the work of that plan or so I think I that's where it came from in terms of taking it out was our understanding was >> having the select board plan we're working on that together as a group rather than having a new committee

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working but I obviously have no part >> okay um my I sort of interpreted the opposite I I mean I'm happy to I have some flexibility on it. I I think

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the decision here is um sort of advance the economic development plan through appropriate coordination between select board and planning board. That's probably the

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trackiton. Um the alternative path would be formation of an economic development subcommittee with select board and planning board representation

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to you know have a bit you know it's it's a different path of you know advancing the same work in arguably a more scheduled way but maybe not depending on what people's vision is for option A. Um,

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>> so, so if I could just add, um, I think [snorts] I think it would be valuable to do an analysis of

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how an economic development committee would bring value to the town. Other cities and towns in the Commonwealth do have distinct economic development committees.

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I also think that it wouldn't necessarily make sense to have a formation of an economic development committee until

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the plan is complete. Right? Like I what if there were a way for us to while having the economic development plan in progress

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kind of do our due diligence for like what like what do we need out of this committee and what are some comps for like formation so that we get the governance right. But I do think that

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we should have a committee or have a really good reason for not having a committee that that we've at least evaluated fully um whether it makes sense for us. Does that mean we want to make edits to

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these goals or are we okay with it as is? Um I would agree that I think the committee comes after the economic development plan and that we see what comes out of the plan given that um we'll talk about this later but

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we haven't taken the next step to finish the scope as well as um put it back out to the consultant to get a timeline um [snorts] if it's even completed in this year before we're back again talking about our goals and objectives that that committee may be on next year's

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um goals depending on the timeline for this economic development plan. Um I also think it doesn't preclude us from when we get the plan to say we should form a committee next. So >> could we could we add to the scope of the work to

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>> form a committee? No, no, no, not to form the committee but to like evaluate evaluate the deployment of such committees like how do they function right like let's look at let's look at

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like Welssley let's look at NIC let's look at where I don't know I can't rattle off the top of my head I mean I could probably even just do this >> on chat GBT in like a night Right.

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>> We may be able to broaden it and say >> and when we in the scope that we get at the end of it recommendations [clears throat] for implementation. >> Yeah. >> Um so if it's a committee or if there are other methods for best practices for

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these things actually come to fruition in any economic development plan that we have that from the consultant saying these are the potential next steps for them to take. I don't think that's a big revision of the scope because from what

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I recall the scope currently recommends the town create >> this such a committee. I I so I don't know what [clears throat] the consultant plans to do to support that. Um I don't remember how it's phrased but um

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I'm following you know that that makes sense. So, so it could be an outcome of the plan, but nonetheless doesn't need to be, you know, an existing goal till it's a little clear the timing of it. >> It could be it could be part of like an

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implementation road map. >> Yeah. >> Which too few plans have. >> Yeah. I I think my goal would just be to make sure that the the work continues on in a um a streamlined manner. Sweet.

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>> How many committees this going to be, Nick? >> One fewer right now. One fewer than there could have been. >> We're going to need another Cody to just stick with the committees. [clears throat] >> We get to We have We We won't have as many jobs for as many people in this

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town who want to volunteer, >> but we have so much talent on our town. >> I agree with you. >> We'll have to have the meetings at 5:00 at night. >> Oh jeez. Oh jeez. [clears throat] So, John, you don't want to be put on this one?

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>> I'll be on the committee. I don't I don't mind. I'm just a question. How many do we have? >> Yeah. No. >> Some eventually we're going to have to make a decision. >> But next year. Next year. >> Next year. >> All right. Uh, if there aren't any more

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edits, >> I just I was not I so I feel like I No, not related to this on a potential edit. So Kate wrote some of these. So I I just want to say because it's about me and it's I don't want it to be presumptuous.

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So 4.9 is complete negotiations for the time of a successor employment agreement. >> I just want to flag it's the zones that you will want to extend it. So we can change that language that the board has to make a decision by December 31st on whether to extend a town administrator

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and then complete negotiations. I think okay with that. Oh, I thought successor meant that Cody was like waiting >> the succession plan. >> Okay. >> Or show succession. >> All right. I will take a motion to approve if

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anybody's >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Move to approve the select board goals and objectives. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded by Mr. Dresccoll. All right, Mr. Drisco, your vote. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Staggery, >> yes. >> And myself, yes.

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>> All right, we'll move to item nine. Discussion of the contract with PMA Consultants for the owners project management services, otherwise known as the OPM for the MSPA project. Mr. Milano, if you want to walk us through this. >> Yes, I think uh we reported on this

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previously. So, the selection of PMA consultants by the school building committee has been approved. um this action item is now to approve the contract with PMA. Uh so they begin they can begin their work and this this OPM would be assigned to working on the MSBA

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aspect of any potential school project not working currently on anything related to library. So there's a there's a kind of demarcation responsibilities there. Um so they're preparing their work to continue to progress that MBA um project.

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>> Questions, thoughts, concerns from the members? >> If there are none, I will accept motion. >> Move to approve the contract with PMA Consultants for owner project um management services. >> Second. >> Motion made and seconded. Mr. Disco, >> yes.

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>> Shower, >> yes. Snowman. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. >> John, you get the next one. >> Yes. We already got our committee report. So, we've had the school building committee report unless you'd like to add anything. >> Nothing further.

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>> Good. All right. Housing production plan advisory committee. That is myself and Miss Nolan. I can speak to the first hour because I had to leave a little early. Um we met with the consultant who provided the housing needs assessment. That is

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the first step in the first draft. Um all of the members have it. We're able to submit some um suggestions and comments during the meeting. Uh others are reviewing it for even more comments. One of those people is myself. I'll be submitting some um comments uh this week, tomorrow morning most likely. and

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we've established a timeline as well as um sort of an overview for what we need for the housing progression plan. But I would say I think it gives this a good place and we're moving forward. So >> I think we just uh community engagement piece um is is pretty key. So I think

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that would be important for our town members to kind of just weigh in as well. >> Uh so far I think it's a very well done plan. um going through and reviewing it. A lot of great information about the changes um in the town um over the last

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10 years. Some of it uh very striking particularly in expense and um wealth but so far uh very well done and very optimistic about the plan. >> All right. Uh I think it's all about

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committee talk with since um item 11 Mr. Oversham about the establishment of a traffic mitigation subcommittee overshitt. >> Yeah. >> We haven't had a meeting yet. [laughter] Um

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so I I urge [snorts] um the board to consider um moving forward um with this advisory committee. My my thinking here and what I'm proposing is, you know, I

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don't think I need to spend much time on um you know, emphasizing how critical um it is um uh you know to focus on you know ever growing traffic concerns. Um

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it's it's the the issue I heard most about while campaigning and continue to hear most about. Um I think there's a lot of good people, extremely talented subject matter experts in town already working on the topic in different ways.

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Um and I think you know the the Randolph A road diet is a success story of you know the different stakeholders and and expertise from residents in in um you know moving that solution forward. Um I

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think a a next step in the town um is you know proceeding with the tool design um traffic calving policy and plan which is just it's getting out of the gate now I mean that's happening um where I'm focused is um ensure you

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know what structure can we have in place to ensure the work around that um Um, you know, the report proceeds well. There's community engagement aspects to it. There's potentially a lot of work to it, but also [snorts] recommendations

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are um conveyed back to this board and the traffic commission in a way that is prioritized. Um, and there's probably a lot of implementation work. And when I thought about um you know the need for this committee, I thought about what to me seemed like a

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really strong um traffic mitigation report back in 2020 um that um you know wasn't fully implemented for for whatever reason. I think there was a lot to that report and there's it just shows,

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you know, and there's really some real experts working on that at the time, but it just shows the amount of work that's involved, I think, in running with these reports when they come back. Um, I also thought quite a bit and met gathered perspective in town um from from leaders

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in the town staff department about um you know whether to try to support the advancement of this report through this separate subcommittee or just through the traffic commission. Um and I can speak to that more. Um but you know in short I think the staffing of this

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committee is meant to you know overlap with the traffic commission and include enough of those experts so there's good synergy with the two commissions and and tulle will also report to the traffic commission um three times during this

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process. So um I I think this will increase the chances of um our ability to take this report and run with it. in an area that's critically important. Um, and I include here at the end

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examination after the report for whether we keep this committee going for a space for continued long-term traffic planning for the town. Um, you know, I so happy to answer any questions about it. Um,

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you know, and separately, this is goal number 3.2 for us. So if we don't watch this, we're not meeting our goals. [clears throat] >> All right, >> there you go. >> So the members questions, comments. >> All right. So Pete, you know, you throw something like this out there, you know,

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you're going to get feedback from me. >> Sure. >> Right. So I think this is really good. Um and just what we need. Um because as you say, we will end up having an analysis of traffic in the

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town, hot spots, and then my understanding is a potential menu of items uh that could [clears throat] that could be deployed as mitigation for various hotspots, right? So I think when

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you have um when you have an analysis like this and a level of expectation raised, you definitely do want to have some governance um and prioritization around like what's going to get handled when.

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Um and that that could very quickly overwhelm the traffic commission, right? In day-to-day work. Um I would I would suggest or suggest consideration

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um you know where you have bulleted um the you know for for like the tasks of the committee. um you know where it says pride and feedback supporting tool design.

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I think it might be a good idea to also include you know um that analyzing data to monitor outcomes and changes um just to kind of keep that in the

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forefront so that we're able to say with certainty one direction or the other whether the change helped. Right? Because you're going to have again identification of hot spots. So like yes, in fact there is a problem. So

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you'll have like that baseline problem looked at. You'll have a menu of uh mitigating items, but then there's a question of was it effective, right? So you don't end up in like a kind of like a dual loop of like let's keep trying

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these things. Um, and then the other the other question is, you know, I don't know for like Nick and like the the town side, but monitoring

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capital capital spend or um, you know, if any financial resources have to be put toward um, any of the interventions or items that you select, like is that ever going to be a challenge that you run up

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against. Um, just food for thought. And then in terms of proposed membership, um, I like these suggestions. I might also, so I I like the the director of public works or their design

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is in there. I would also try to ensure that like both somebody from engineering and construction and safety engineering are able to be at the table for decision making. Um because even within DBW people do like

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very different things um if you want to get decisions made quickly. And then the other question is um I would imagine and again the plan's not done yet but when you identify some

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of these hotspots I'm I am I would put some money on some of the hot spots are going to be in areas where there are like across jurisdictions. So, as you get close to the border with

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the city, right, as you um as you get closer to, you know, highway access points or DCR properties, those might be some of your trickiest hotspot areas.

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So, um, I don't think you necessarily have to have somebody on the committee that, um, you know, folks who are from those other agencies, but it might be a good idea to contemplate like, you know, weaving them

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into meetings and stuff because you'll need their you may need you may end up needing their support to like deploy the intervention. >> That's why we have you. I can help. I can help where I or as long as it doesn't violate my conflict of interest.

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But um that's just those are just things I would look toward. But I think on the whole it's like very there's nothing I would take out. There's just maybe things I would think of or add. >> A thorough line of questioning

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>> or just like a smooth consciousness. No, I I I at risk of interrupting any other questions, I I in addition to being better stated than I probably could have written it, I the one probably difference we have thinking about it is

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>> some of that work I had in my mind of a sort of next FA when I say in here, you [snorts] know, basically contemplate the longevity of this committee. >> Yeah. You know, I think there will be a point where hopefully we have, you know,

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internalized sort of the tool design design um recommendations about how we sort of structure traffic coming decisions in town and and implement the recommendations we want from that. There may be a time to consider, okay, do the

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individual project decisions, you know, are they is this committee working on that or is that traffic commission? >> Yeah. And so so that some of your suggestions I wonder you know what that where that point is you know is that getting in almost like a phase two for

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this committee but >> pro most of them I think are pretty clear and would be great additions here so we can >> plug those in for sure. Um I I'm just trying to your your membership recommendations sounded smart

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and and Nick, you know, you chime in too if you have used um otherwise. But >> I think between I would [clears throat] expect DPW to be heavily involved whether they're explicitly on the committee or staffing the meeting. I I mean it's the

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commissioner, town engineer, and assistant town engineer and that's it. So I think um between the three of them I would expect um participation um whether explicitly on the committee or not. Um so I I think it's covered but or you can

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expand it to say staff support from some key staff [clears throat] including engineer assistant engineer director planning in terms of not necessarily expected to be members but expected to be relied upon to provide feedback to the committee to meet with them as needed. Yeah.

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And then I think the engagement with the state agencies I I do wonder if that should actually just be part of the goals that the committee works on because I I think that's a good point in terms of engagement with >> we run into that so fast. >> Good. >> Yeah. The feedback is blue in certain

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areas. >> Having that as a goal I think is or an action item really under this goal and this might be a way to address it. I I will also I'm sure it's top of mind, but remember my fellow member Mr. Driscoll that may have been some

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interest in being on this too, but yeah. >> Yep. But Megan wanted to be >> Oh, yep. Well, you know, I I >> my road I got 24hour traffic, so like her road starting to get it. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Well, >> if she uh

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>> I just want to see the work get done in town. That's my >> I would uh set step down what you get in it. >> It's okay. You you got your 24hour. >> I can always tell you to what I think. >> You're going to have to have your meetings the same the same time uh

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>> the traffic commissioner has it cuz a lot of them people are going to be on your committee. >> DPW director, >> right? The engineer. >> Yeah. >> Uh so >> we can polish up this. Do we want to

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>> are we okay to move forward with the being okay with the establishment and then some polishing of uh as written but knowing that it will be establishment move forward? with that. >> Yeah, >> if that's okay, then I'll take a motion to

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>> I will Yeah. Um I'd like to make a motion to approve the establishment of a traffic mitigation subcommittee. Um and there >> subject to some

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>> subject to subject to some edits Pete might make. Um but yeah, motion made second. >> Second. >> Mr. Drisk. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sto. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Myself. Yes.

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>> All right. Get your first comm. >> Thank you for your work. >> Thank you. >> It's going to be great. >> All right, Mr. Let's go to 12.

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personality through the bicycle advisory committee. >> Yes. Uh we have received a resurgence of interest in the bicycle advisory committee. Uh we are doing some homework and trying to figure out charge and composition. Um the committee is has

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been established since 1999. We haven't laid our hands on an explicit charge. Um, so unless there's any objection from the board, we plan to pull together a charge and we'll bring forward a list of applicants for the board's consideration meeting on August 4th. We I tried to

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pull some together just didn't succeed for this evening, but we'll um plan to do both in terms of potential applicants um as well as a charge just to kind of formalize their their goal and composition. Any without any questions or concerns, I

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will take a motion to sort of uh re-engage the bicycle advisory committee with documents to be presented on our next meeting. >> I make a motion to reestablish a bicycle advisory committee. >> Motion made second >> and seconded by Miss Hagerty. Mr.

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Drisco, >> yes. Sh. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> And myself. Thank you. We'll move to item 13 discussion update approval of boards and committees. I think we only have one uh

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to the commission on disability uh appointment of Joe Funley. I'm going to take some time here for discussion because I believe some members have been contacted about this appointment. So I

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will leave it open for any discussions or questions from members. That's uh myself or Mr. Milano. Mr. >> Um Mr. Dailyaly, I would like to [clears throat] table this if you you would all agree so you could get

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together with uh uh Mrs. Agustinino about this. I'm not against the applicant. Please, I'm not against the applicant. just that she reached out to me a couple times today asking if we could table it till Nick and Mr. Winston

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daily can sit down and talk with her. >> Other thoughts from your members? >> I also had a nice conversation um with Mr. Tilio Agugustino. Um so I I do have some questions. So,

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is that committee fully um staffed? And if if so, this is this is what I'm confused on. Um is this the final application to fill

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out that committee? And does that preclude anyone else from um applying if they so choose to apply?

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But also too, Miss Miss um Dilioex, you know, did mention she she did want to talk more about the committee. But but I have my own questions about like can more people participate in this if they need to or want to.

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>> Am I uh okay in assuming that the questions from members are similar about uh composition and tableling >> and process >> and process, right? Um, so I'll just I'll share my view on this and how it's come together just so the board has some

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of the history from my perspective. Miss Milano, please uh jump in where I may be missing something. Uh, the applicant and application was sent in in May. Um, we had, you know, some full agendas and weren't able to handle that appointment

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and so many other ones. So, we technically should have appointed this perhaps [clears throat] a month or two previous. uh the chair, Miss Dulio Dextino who was made aware of the applicant uh she later uh this month of July

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uh shared that she wanted to wait. She also asked for an appointment of another person who had not submitted an application. So we have an applicant. Another person was asked to be appointed and then she did request once we were going to move forward with this with

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this applicant as an appointee. She did request that we meet speak about the composition. She was worried about having quorum. She had folks that were not um coming to the meetings. And so my answer to her um in support of Mr. One

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was that um I did not feel that appointing this applicant precluded us from having a conversation about the makeup of the board. The board is with the state charge a minimum of five members, a maximum of 13. I believe that

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this member would give them five or six. And my my feeling is that when an applicant applies and goes through the process, they're going through one process. For us to let an application sit and then after the process change

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the rules of the process is not fair to an applicant. And so my view is that we can continue to have a talk about folks who are not attending if there folks not attending the committee. The committee does need to be smaller and then we can work on those changes. but that we

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should not reject an applicant or table one applicant for our review without a timeline, without a review, without an applicant having been told ahead of time that this would have been the case. I just think that's an unfair process. Um

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the conversations with um the chair, not against it, that was shared in our correspondence via email. I am a little disappointed. I'll just I'm just going to be honest. I'm a little disappointed that after our conversation that the chair would have contacted every member of the select

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board uh directly. You're free to do it. You're voter. You're you're a committee member here. You're a citizen. But I I think the sort of process of that bothers me a bit and in that she was in communication with

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myself and Mr. Milano over the past few days and our stance was made pretty clear. Uh this does not change the work of the committee. This is a a young person who is trying to be civically engaged, a young person with

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disabilities that wants to be a part of our civic process. So I'm then particularly sensitive to us telling any person that they should wait as we change the rules perhaps or review the rules and that this appointment and our

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process can only bolster the committee. So that is my stance and why I asked for it to be on the agenda tonight is that it was submitted under one set of rules. We have been asked to pause it to then change the rules which I do not think is

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a good clear and transparent process. >> Did I miss anything? >> No. Uh just I would just say in terms of covering process again um what I what we typically do will um applicants will fill out the board and committee form

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online. It comes to an inbox that is managed by myself and Lynn. Lyn will go in and and share the applications with uh the boards or committees just requesting any feedback that they might have. Um and then generally they'll appear on the agenda in the coming weeks

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or months to to be appointed. Um so that's generally the process that we undergo um and and was adhered to here in terms of we got the application shared with commission on disabilities. Um we we honestly would have brought it

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forward sooner um but uh it fell off our my radar to be honest and Joe kind of Joe Finger reached out just to say hey just checking in on my application and reminded us to to follow up on it. So that is how we kind of typically handle these. It's not necessarily looking for

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committee's approval or veto of applicants just requesting a feedback alert that the site may make an appointment um and then it'll be brought forward to a future sub. So, so for like process going forward, right? Like if

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so, so a a concern I would have had was, you know, is any is anyone else like shut out of this? It sounds like no. And then there's still opportunity for the chair

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to um manage help manage the membership of the rest of the committee by having some conversations about like hey are you still really available for this? Um you know we need you there to make quorum. So it just sounds like so no

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this isn't this isn't disqualifying any additional interested parties. It also doesn't preclude sort of cleaning up the rest of the membership or structure. Um and and you can still add we can

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still add additional appointees at any time. >> Yeah. Still room on the committee for additional people. Still space for the chair to have a conversation with us if there are folks who have not been able to attend with the struggles with getting quorum. if those folks need to step down or be asked to step down and

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for the chair to reconfigure the membership. Um so yeah, we would have I think six members, maximum is 13. All conversations remain open. Um, I'll just reiterate again. I thought the idea of having an applicant in the pipeline who

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should have been appointed perhaps a few months ago, but we dropped off our radar to then have that applicant be punished and sidelined again, I think is uh is bad process from us and that's just my my >> Mr. Dailyy. Thank you for explaining that. That's not what I got and I'm

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sorry. >> I'm ready to move forward. >> Any questions or thoughts? >> All right. Yeah, >> I will take a motion if any >> Well, just one addition. I mean, I you know, I also spoke with Miss Dagustin, you know, today and it was a good

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conversation. Um, and hear her, you know, I I don't fully understand her up to speed on some of the membership challenges she's having, the important work of the committee. But I do think we can um you know in various ways and sign

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me up if I can be helpful find ways to support her in that um you know and offer be a sounding board or or support through those challenges. Um but but those aside um you know I I I don't think there's a

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process reason um not to you know move forward with this stellar applicant. Um, so, um, you know, I put a lot of thought into that myself after a good conversation, too. So, >> make a motion.

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>> All right. Motion made. >> Second. >> Made seconded. >> Yes. >> Shower. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Second meeting. And myself. Yes. And just for a schedule point of us meeting with the chair. Um, sort of windows. The

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committee does not meet in the summer. So I believe their earliest meeting will [snorts] be September or October and we are certainly open to meeting with the chair um before that next meeting so we can talk about the committee and its composition moving forward. So

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>> thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Discussion approval meeting minutes June 23rd 2026. I will take a motion unless there are any edits. Make a motion to accept the meeting

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minutes June 23rd 2026. >> Motion made. >> Second. >> Seconded member Hagerty. Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. >> Shiner. >> Yes. >> Snowing. >> Yes. >> Sagard. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. All right. Item 15, town administrators [clears throat] report. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Not a ton

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since our meeting last week. Uh just a note that for folks who are interested in the Pepper playground projects. Um so site preparation was performed and completed uh again at no cost to town by the by Charlie Bosworth and his his group. Um the contractor under contract

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with the town to install the playground equipment has mobilized. Playground equipment is going up. Um we expect that work to be completed over the next hopefully four to six weeks and maybe sooner. Um but uh that is coming along and [snorts] uh equipment is is starting

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to go up and please don't go over the fence to climb it but uh sooner it'll be ready very soon. So excited to see that progress. >> Thank you. That's really important. >> Great. All right. Uh chair's report. Not much has happened in you know last time since we saw each other. One item I will

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flag for our members is we have received recently um a decent number of emails about uh Flock cameras. Uh Flock the company and the cameras and we do have a number of them here in Milton. Um I did

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sit with the police chief about them earlier later last week to find out how we use them. uh how it's protected, how we save the data, but that conversation of us onetoone is certainly not enough

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for the citizens concerned. So, um, we may be asking the chief to come in, um, perhaps not our not this next meeting, but perhaps our September meeting to discuss flock the cameras, how we use them, how he sees the police using those cameras going forward, how we protect

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our residents, even as we um are concerned about safety and the crimes that it's been able to help us solve. Uh but with that the fly cameras becoming more and more in the news and discussed in the communities. I do think that's an

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important thing for the chief to come in and share. So I wanted to flag that for everyone as well as the folks that have sent us the emails and others who may have been thinking about it. >> No. >> I have a question um about the data. >> Um does the does Flock own the data or

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do we own the data? My understanding is that we own the data, but you know, don't hold me to that. That may be something that we could ask the chief for so he can be um very clear about that. My understanding is that we own the data. It is scrub after 30 days, but and there are a lot of controls and

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regulations put in place as to who uses them, who can view it, when and where. That's for us internally. Um, I will say the chief shared that he's gone through uh some reporting and some discussions with ACLU already and provided them a lot of reports, but that's again

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something for the chief to come in. >> Where are the cameras? >> Where are they? It's a secret. >> Huh? >> They're all over. I don't know. There are I think we have a dozen. >> They typically go on to like street lights. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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So, the town has surveillance cameras at key intersections. >> Holy smokes, I better watch out what I do. >> This these cameras assist. >> The government already knows where you are. >> So, we have video cameras that record video that Milton Police has access to already in a number of locations. These

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are a separate camera specifically for license plates. So if they're searching for a specific license plate in lie of watching video, it would trigger a search in the in the software to to complete that search. >> So the town has had cameras for at least

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30 years. These license plate cameras are new and they've only focus on license plates whereas the other type of cameras that have been around have kind of everything. So >> do you know how new is that? like a 2026.

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>> Uh I believe we are in the second year of our contract. >> It's 24 to 25 to 26. >> So there's people not happy with it or happy with it. >> Uh flock has come come under a lot of scrutiny the company um because of how

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their data has been used um whether by the company or by the departments that have used it. There there's a series of investigative reports as well as um suits that have been filed for the way the data has been used.

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>> Nope. >> So that's just something to flag for our future conversation. Uh 17. Anything from my members? It's good news about that dispatch center. It's on its way.

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>> The grant is Yes. $8.5 million been awarded in the grant. >> So, we're moving a little closer. >> Taking the next step to implementation and there's going to be a number of decisions that come along that. So, that's where we're starting to map out what those kind of key decision points

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are. And it's something we talked about bringing um the two chiefs in in the fall to to provide an update and kind of and a map as to what the next steps are. >> So we're going forward, not going sideways. >> Correct. >> Moving to implementation now. It'll take

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a long time to ramp up and to at least 12 months, but that is the direction. >> Anything else for me? >> All right. Uh public comment response. Um I don't think much of a response. Uh most of the items that uh the resident

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sort of surfaced we went into uh labor district. >> Yeah. So I think we like check boxes. Yeah. >> All discussed and I will note John and his partner were out this weekend cleaning up the traffic on kidnap. So

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>> saw that on. We always appreciate his work and efficacy um on behalf of >> which part >> he was at the traffic island I think at the corner of Brush Hill and Canton. So further up. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. Future meetings scheduled. Um I think we are not doing July 28th but we will be back uh August 4th and then September 8th. back to school before we know it.

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>> That's when the traffic starts. >> Yep. >> You're right. >> Got a couple more weeks. >> Yeah. >> Then then Pete, you're going to have to work overdrive. >> All [clears throat] right. Uh future agenda items for anyone. I have a couple

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to mention. So, I got a really interesting inquiry from a resident um earlier this month about um the prolonged drought that we're in

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um and uh water conservation and um what what the status is of any potential uh looming water ban. Um, I did a little inquiry with MWR and they assured me

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that there is more than enough water in the quin that like it could not rain for another year and a half and still be fine. But I do think I think the question that she raised um was very interesting and I don't know if we could

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have um someone from DPW or MWR come out at some point to talk a little bit about what towns like ours can do to be more conscious

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um about water usage or if there are any other committee like the climate impact committee that are taking additional steps on this. >> Sure. Let me >> That was an interesting inquiry this

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month that I was like, you know what, we should we should talk about it. >> We can we will have a a rate setting conversation um at our next meeting. So >> the rate setting up [clears throat] um something to go hand in hand with that.

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Um, let me talk to DPW and we'll >> Okay, thank you. >> I guess if you go to any other suburban town outside of the MWR area, everybody is underwater handheld bait watering hang the lawns are all brown. >> Yeah. >> Bridgewater.

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>> But a lot of people don't like to use the water much no more cuz they don't like their water bill. >> It's bad. Yeah. >> They don't like it. Even the rich people >> get mad about it. >> Yeah. >> And they have an outside meter. They don't like that bill. Yep. It is. It's It's a >> So, they cut back on their water usage

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on the sprinkler systems and everything. >> Yeah. >> You know, they just don't like that bill. >> I learned a lot from my inquiry that I think would be fascinating for other people who care to know about their water [clears throat] uh access.

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>> That's good. Any other agenda items? Future agenda items. Um I have two um just from our meeting tonight. Um one uh if we could possibly have that architect attend our A4

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meeting. So they have that on their schedule. Um move forward. I'm hoping that hopefully we have our appraisal back by that time too. And then secondly us to continue and follow up on the economic development plan. I know we discussed um opening that scope. I don't

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think we've had submissions for the scope or re-engaged it since so that we don't um >> that fall off. we've discussed internally and have reached out to MAC to pick up the conversation but um by ideally by the fourth week I can provide

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at least enough to where I >> I don't know the cadence we were thinking about for for sort of more meetings joint meetings with the planning board but it could tie into you know talking about that again in an

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upcoming you know if if you think court if that could be cord Maybe we're not thinking that often, but that's we are should probably already think about getting that next one on the calendar that if it's going to be something close to quarterly. >> Um, so

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>> I think we had planned to talk about that around the time that the housing production plan deliverable was due. So I think we had tentatively circled an October meeting with the planning board around depending on the work of the housing production plan. So >> So we could have two two pretty big items to discuss.

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>> Correct. [snorts] And should we should we also consider like targeting a date for school committee? But that would be more around like budget budget purposes. >> Uh I think >> yeah I think yes but the school

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committee maybe after or during the final steps elaborate. >> Okay. Because once we get their architect information and our appraisal, we will need to engage with them about their programming cost analysis and also

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how we go out to the town and residents about the plans moving forward. I think once we have that once we have both architect and appraisal I think that we can talk school commutive session I was right at two hours I

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almost had it all right uh I move to enter executive session consider purchase exchange lease or value of real property Labber College at 303 Adam Street based on my belief that discussion of this matter in open session may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the select

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board. The select board will not return to open session. I'll also move to enter into executive session to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining. Milton Clerical Unit of the South Eastern Public Employees Association, Milton Professional Management Association,

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Milton Public Employee Association, Milton Firefighters Local 116, Milton Police Association, Milton Superior Officers, Milton Library Association. Based on my belief that the discussion of this matter in an open session may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining position of the select board,

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the select board will not return to open session. >> Second, Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Integrity. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. >> Move to >> Yes.

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>> I take a motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion made. >> Second. >> Motion second. Mr. Yes. >> Song. >> Yes. >> Snow. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. >> Say good night, Gracie. >> Good night, Gracie. >> Go [laughter]

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back.