[Music] Good evening everyone. This is a
residents gathering regarding road and traffic safety in our town Milton. We've broken out into four zones. The town, there's Route 138, there's the famous Route 28, uh, Randolph Avenue, and
there's East Milton Square. And the fourth one is Canton Avenue. Canton Avenue. That's right. Um Canton Avenue. So, as we walk over to visit with the individuals who are going to
brainstorm what they feel uh the most serious road and safety issues, road and traffic safety issues in those divisions. We're going to collect a list and at the then we're going to come in because everyone drives throughout town.
We're going to come in and discuss each of the list that you've compiled to see what we want to add because we don't all live off of one section. And then um we're going to compile it into a report that's going to go to the governor. It's going to go to the state legislators.
It's going to go to Mass Dot, the selectman, and everyone who's responsible because I have watched too many individuals die in front of my eyes right where I have to get on Randolph A
and it's unacceptable. So, I greatly appreciate that you've come here tonight to help collect more data and help the town of Milton because July 5th was weeks ago and many other people have been disabled in accidents. In fact, one
of the more recent ones um the scanner announced that the car was demolished. the driver that caused the accident um had left the scene of the accident and there was no ambulance in the town of
Milton. It was a pouring rainy night. It took about 25 minutes for the ambulance to come to the scene of the accident. So, thank you so much for taking this summer night to be here. Greatly appreciated. And if anyone at home picks
up any ideas from what you're hearing here, uh, watching a replay, please, um, just send a message through Facebook, call me up, um, send an email, talk to anyone who's here tonight to help us really improve safety in the town of
Melton. I'm going I'm going to just have you add for purposes of people who would be watching the tape um Randolph Avenue and um road and traffic safety because it
really is the traffic um that's the biggest issue u in addition to the design that there is no safety design. I did compile a list of locations and I've submitted it to DCR
for them to do traffic counts out of Hillside over at Eagle Farms Pepsi. Um what's it um Nukem's um Eagle Road, not that they'd ever put it like that, but Mrs. Santeneelis from
Eagle Farm told me back in the 70s that's what Eagle Farms wanted. They asked for a traffic light there cuz I have plenty of pictures of really bad accidents. So, can we make a note traffic counts
having traffic counts is very important. In fact, the only reason they finally made the light at Reed and access and hillside was they didn't know that the animal shelter had opened and that there's a 40 apartment development going
there. The state, no one ever the town just didn't call up and tell them. So, it's important what we're doing is kind of writing a blueprint also. You know, we're not going to be here forever. A blueprint of how towns should design roads for safety. So, just make any
notes or um speak up. Okay, Jackie, we're going to start with you because she's on the small little hilltop extension where they expect the school bus to stop next Thursday during rush hour traffic at the location where
three people pass away. So, can you talk loud? So, do you just suggest to make notes? Okay. Um My personal suggestion is that if we have more traffic lights,
which Eagle Farm lights, more traffic lights, I would say Eagle Farms, Wallist Golf Club, uh the town yard, the new apartment building at 7-Eleven, Randolph A. There's going to be a lot of traffic coming out of that. And I believe it's
only a right turn only. They haven't decided any of that. So, I think the traffic only right hand turn. Oh, did they make the decision? Oh, okay. Good, good, good. They're going to have to go. They can't go up. They can't go up. They can't go down either.
They got to go to hillside. I was just going to say they're going to go to hillside or out. I think that's like especially because they've put this uh proposal for this pilot, right? And they have a few different thoughts that they're looking for feedback from this committee that's
made up of members of the select board and other people in town. Um, but I think it would be good for us to discuss those proposals to kind of see how the different neighborhoods are feeling with the with each of the breakdowns. I'll go through each of them off the proposal after we kind of just
Okay. Yeah, that's a good point because it would be maybe even just because I would just be interested to hear what Yes. in terms of what you think as far as safety, but just how you're feeling about that in general and how you think it could impact your neighborhood. what you think, you know, obviously we can
discuss it as part of a larger group, but it would just be interesting to kind of have a little bit of discussion about it. I honestly think they trigger the lights more often now stops the traffic. It does help. John, what is that called?
When I went to the meeting, there's a term so the lights on Hillside and Reed and Access Road only used to um change when a car came, which was seldom residents on Highland told me that they would push get out and push this the
button. And so when they were updating the lights recently in the last three weeks, she she was she was told the people from the state I would have to get out and push the button. So, it's the people who come off the access road
um re street have said they love it. And I know I see a big difference coming out of Bridgewood. Big difference because the traffic from Hillside to the access road is it gives me a bright
help. Say that again. Flash that tells you that your speedful One of the things I had thought that the at the um more recent select board meeting that Masto was at um they had
sort of said you can have both where like the light is triggered by a car and right I know queuing at the light. I don't know but like um what's it called? I don't know. I'd have to yeah go back and look. But essentially you can't have
it be right. So, I'm curious how many minutes apart are they street and I waited at the light the first one at the stopwatch for four minutes. Four minutes. Okay. Is that something that our neighbors are going to want to
know, right? Like right now it's called sequence, but I don't know if that's right down. No, I think it is sequencing of the traffic lights so that um will hillside street, right? Like if you ever drove route 3A,
if you get a green light, you pretty much get all green lights. There's a way you can adjust that. So we we to your point, we want to know is Hillside Street red and then when you get to read access, does that turn green?
You know what's the sequencing of the strategy stopping a lot more than it always did. Oh yeah, definitely. And that's helpful. It's too I don't know if they can update the system so that both could occur at the same time. That would be the ideal solution.
Red and red. Oh, I thought we were just saying stagger it so that it's not green all the time, right? We don't want it green. But to her point, if someone's got they would have to know the distance from Hillside Street being red and make them get
another red at because that would really slow down speed. I don't know what you call that, but it is well I think we also took the time of day. Yeah. Things like that. So I think getting it on a regular basis is the
first step and then finetuning it. How about lowering the speed limit? I think they've already you're gonna see you're going to see a great picture. That's a good point. So, you know, when you're coming from St. Elizabeth's Church, I would the first thing there should be no right on
red at St. Elizabeth's anymore because the traffic is non-stop. I had to sit there forever to get out of the DPW yard and the DPW depends on what time of day, right? But they can do it by time of day. They can do that. You know, right on red is not that bad.
I drive that road 45 times a day. Do you come out of the They had the guy the truck and I were both waiting. It's during rush hour. Trouble no matter time on that road. That that morning rush and then afternoon rush is tough.
It's the afternoon rush from St. Pome Academy heading north. But this was the insane part. I actually emailed it to the mass dot. They didn't take down the 45 mph sign that is about 30 ft from the
traffic light. So signage we should make a note to review the speed. It's not that they they definitely don't want they're taking down the 45 mile because you can't have 45 into an intersection. So signs are saying
yeah the the speed limits down. They're going to bring it down. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Because it you can't drive into an intersection at 45 miles an hour. Okay. It's not Are they changing it for the state? The state has confirmed that they're going to do that cuz I sent them the picture and they're like, "Oh, yeah.
We'll get it down." But not for all the No, I only I had my niece sit in the car and we videotaped from St. Elizabeth's up to Hillside and that's how Can we put on here lower speed limit for two mile stretch between retail and save
money also? So, just for the intersection, it go and then for the other two miles, what they're going to be again? No. No, because you've got um there should be a crosswalk. Did we list
crosswalks yet at Howland? The bus stops there. You should see those people. Yeah. Crossing. And I was told by the state, you can't have a crosswalk on a highway without a traffic light. I just drove Route 18 and they have a ton of brand new crosswalks
without traffic lights. No problem. I was going to say, so you've got a great list. I'm going to let you guys finish while we move over. But I also concerned you
and this group of um residents is going over East Milton Road and traffic safety issues. So, I'm going to call on Kevin to read us through what they have brainstormed over here to make our town safer.
So, I'm Kevin Cruz, a town meeting member from Pre and 7 with Joan Fall, also a town meeting member, Prein 7, Steve Keller, town meeting member, Precinct 8, and Brian Magcguire, town meeting member, Prein 7, and member of our warrant committee here. So, we all live in East Milton and um we can come up
collectively as a group with some of our major concerns that we have uh from East Milton. Um and we can walk through those with uh the viewing audience. The biggest concern that we came up with so far is uh particularly in the morning times the highway congestion particularly on Granite A. Uh myself and
Joan both live Joan lives on Granite A. I live on a neighborhood that directly abuts Granite a and uh the congestion in the morning is uh is quite something and it always backs up into the East Milton neighborhoods as well particularly Franklin Street, Wood Street and a
number of the uh Antworp Street and other neighborhoods as well that back up uh more ways than one. So um that's a major concern that we have. I know Joan wanted to touch on that too. And we can see Granite A right out the window as we're over here at the American Legion Post 114.
Yes. Great spot. Which they graciously um donated for us to use. And they've done a great job here. There's no doubt. But Joan, did you want to say anything on Well, also the lack of uh crosswalk. Yes. Clear crosswalks, lights at crosswalks.
um es when it's so busy or even when traffic is really going along um you take your life into your hand trying to cross Granite A. So there should be better crosswalks and lights to stop the traffic. Where would you suggest an additional
light between Squantum Street and the highway? What road? Hope a hope hope. Can you add that? could do that and hope a and uh maybe the Courtland Circle neighborhood too could benefit from. Did they ever the state was going the
town had requested that the state put a big box at Courtland cuz parents tell me they can't even get out in the morning cuz it's all backed up. Did they ever put the white box in? No, I don't believe that that occurred. So, I'm a resident of, as Diane mentions, the Courtland Circle neighborhood, which is the last street
before you head into uh into Dorchester off I93. And you know, many of our residents, if not all the residents that have been to Corn Circle know that getting off that street in the morning is very dangerous. You have a right lane of traffic that is congested going all the way into the highway that backs up
to East Milton Square and beyond. And you also have a left lane of traffic that is a fastmoving bit of traffic because there's less congestion. And for all of our all of our neighbors can attest to as well coming out of Courtland Circle in the morning, you'll have to take a right. take a right and
then take a U-turn at the uh just about the border of Milton and Dorchester to Granite A right down uh right down the street and you'll have to take a U-turn that gets you down uh back on the other side to head south towards East Milton Square. You don't want to be taking a
left going uh from Courtland Circle. You you're putting your life into your own hands. It's very dangerous if you want to take a left. Unfortunately, I do want to add that's who I heard from was parents that they have actually had their students get to school late because they can't come out and take a left.
That's correct. That's correct. And so we would we would anyone coming to our street um you know we would take it from someone who lives there, you want to take in the morning, you want to take a right off of Corland Circle to go and take a U-turn to come back. Where would you take the U-turn? There
is a U-turn right uh at the island right directly across from two granite a uh the building and then you take a U-turn there is that safe there that U-turn well it is safer than taking a left than taking a left and but you will say you may have to wait a minute because the cars coming
from Dorchester to take I93 south are coming at a little bit of a greater speed as well. So, you do have to be careful on that, but it is a safer alternative than taking the left uh on Quin Circle, but I know we have other uh avenues to consider. I know Brian wanted to talk about his neighborhood, too.
Yeah. I mean, what we have is a lot of people in um Quinzy or or they're getting off the highway and they're going around and they're going taking usually Plymouth Avenue and Quincy and coming down Plymouth and they're flying in the morning because they're trying to beat the traffic and there same time as the
kids are out at school waiting for the bus, they're flying down the road and super dangerous and all these this all these traffic problems create this issue where everyone's rushing around trying to get by the traffic. So, I walk through East Milton every day, many
times a day, and it's dangerous. Like, I don't care if the lights on or not, people are flying through and they're cheating and they're going through red lights, and you really have to watch it. Someone's going to get so much for the 25 mph speed limit in town, right? But the problem is it's too much
traffic. Like, people are just trying to they're just like focused and they get frustrated and they're trying to get by it. They're trying to One thing we did talk about was the emergency situation like an ambulance. I mean, we talked about granite a the ambulance actually has to go the wrong direction to to get on the highway. It's
so backed up on the two lanes and even east Milton with Did you put that? We did. Yeah. So, it's even East Milton with I mean people double parking, ambulances, safety. Um, that's a huge issue. And Steve, you had talked about even, you know, someone who lives, I guess, in
East Milton, the Cunningham Park area, not even wanting to come to East Milton because of how congested it. Oh, it is. Yeah, it is. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And that's unfortunate. It is unfortunate. You have to plan. You have to plan for backup. You have to plan. Yeah. So, I do want to let you know that when
the construction project started on Granite A and they blocked off the parking area, so you're just after Dolan Funeral Home, Milton Nails, and Spa. And I was coming towards the square out of
450 Granite A. And there was an ambulance. We were in traffic. It was at night and nobody was moving. That ambulance had to wait through seven cycles. I was ready to just run up front
of and stop the traffic or get the traffic to go through the light. So I contacted the fire chief the next day because in Randolph um I talked to the Randolph fight uh ambulance. Their ambulance is set up that it can make the
light go green and then red so it can go through. Milton, we just spent a fortune in East Molton Square. Milton never included the system in the traffic light. So the chief has the information on how to get it in there. That building
is a lot of construction. It you don't have that extra pathway to pull over. So nobody you've got two lanes of traffic. You can't pull over and you can't move the light. So I just wanted to let you know that. Um, that's a serious situation on Randolph A, the ambulance
from um, that's how I found out about this. I bumped into the Rand Randolph ambulance driver. I said, "You guys get on the wrong side of the road at St. Elizabeth's." I have videos of it to to take the left. I mean, if you got somebody having a heart attack, you have
to, but when the cars are coming left from Pleasant Street, you could easily have a serious tragedy. building. So, thank you for this list is really good and I'm sure you're going to have more ideas. One more one more point is is on greater
the construction that they're doing there. A big mistake that they made is they bumped out the Jersey barriers into the street and it's causing people to go through Milton because they're trying to go around it. That's one of they're also going the wrong way. They're going they're doing going the
wrong way down the oneway road after 450. People who live on that road have called me out. Same thing. They go the wrong way. They go down in the morning too. Yeah. To go into Grand One way going from Granite.
So you come up Pine Grove or see the terrace then you come down and then you go out hope to get to Granite Avenue or even they that ignore the the one sign so they can cut through. So did you put on this list to question how far I mean the building inspector?
We lost the building inspector. The current building inspector is just starting up. How do we know that those jury bar those orange barriers you're talking about bel are where they belong? Because I was coming down. What's that road? Pierce. No, not Pierce. Pierce is there. Pierce mechanic.
They got the right to put it in the street, but I think going forward they should say no. You can't do that. You can't hinder traffic. But that road. So, I came down the road to go to the parking lot of the um 450
where you got the um thresh and you've got the nail salon. And the contractors had the road shut down. They just had all their trucks. I mean, what was I going to do? I had to back up and park and walk. That's unacceptable, especially for people who
might have handicaps. Uh can you add handicap? I don't think we've really add them. People park in them. That's the problem. People double park. You can't get access to them. I'm not I'll just be a minute. Yeah. Be Exactly. People People use Yeah. Minute turns into four hours. They do. Yeah.
I'll just be a minute. Yeah. But I'm glad you brought up about the um those lights and the that ambulance. Seven cycles. Yeah. That's bad. What if that was you or I Yeah. Seven cycles before they did it.
Yeah. Put out uh construction, you know, in the street. And one thing that Brian had brought up is about um for the Plymouth A was construction barriers traffic got worse because of Governor's Road
Governor's Road on Governor's Road and there it just you know it was like a funnel. All the traffic goes down Plymouth app now and um someone from Reedsdale put did you So where did you put Plymouth? Wherever you put Plymouth at, I got a
call from a gentleman on Reedsdale. He said, "Sure, they put the speed bumps on Governor's and now they're using Reedsdale." So added, what other street is there? It's not Reeddale, reservation. Reservation there.
I told you I'm bad with the issue. Yeah. If they put a barrier on one road, they got to put them on all the That's the thing. Oh, did you also put down Wait a minute. You're forgetting my biggest pet peeve in East Milton Square. You get to the traffic light at the Shell station. In
order to go around the firehouse, you need to be in the right-hand lane. It happens. I stay out of the um square. I just literally go all the way around to get to Quinzy or wherever I need to go. They cut you off there. And they
added an extra thing to the sign. Both lanes must take a left. But if there's no traffic enforcement, then so make sure traffic um signage enforcement. I heard directly from someone who knows that those traffic lights are sequenced out of Oklahoma.
Really? Yeah. They do have to work on the sequencing. Sometimes they sequencing sometimes they're not. That's that is the word sequencing. Light sequencing. Okay. We have filled up a whole uh whole board. Oh, I have plenty more. You want me to
go get another one? put another you should put a point right underneath the Quinsey border and talk about uh you know or maybe it'll come this way this road the um humps something about the speed humps should be on all either on no streets or all streets
one of the they shouldn't just be on one have it on one street that's great but now the next that they just move and that's yeah getting speaking of the speed bumps they only have white lines on them right other towns use like bright yellow.
Okay. Yeah, I've seen that. Because people with different vision issues, the white might not show up, especially when the snow's on the ground. So the um there's a lot of um dis disabled um the commission on disability
held a meeting and the biggest issue brought up was a couple of families with sight issues like they the town when they fixed new roads they didn't put the white line on the edge save a few bucks but someone who has difficulty with their vision needs that line they use
that to stay on the road um So just add ADA somewhere. Sure, I did. I accept. Great. Diane, thank you. This is great. No, thank you for taking a summer night here. So this table and these wonderful
residents who gave up a summer evening in August are looking at Route 138. They don't necessarily live there. They don't necessarily live there. They use it, but I asked them because we didn't seem to get a good crowd for 138
because they're still in traffic. They couldn't get you. Good one. So, Bob, can you please um go down the list of what you've got? It's not so much a list as we have the same problem that every road in Milton
has. And that's distracted drivers, rude drivers, drivers who are incompetent, drivers who are in a hurry, they're impatient, and they go like devil through Milton because they don't want to stay on the expressway in the traffic. We're a cutthroat. None of
these people live here. They're just cutting around our the expressway through our town. And we have number four right there. No enforcement. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone pulled over by the police in
Milton. It just doesn't happen here. Maybe twice a year we see somebody. Um people don't care. They'll go through red lights. They'll pass school buses. don't know anything to get home earlier.
And you have an app called Ways that will send them through our town to say it's quicker to get off the expressway here, go up Route 28, cut through here, go down 138, go over here, and you'll get back on the expressway, and you'll miss all this traffic.
So, we have to battle with that, too. I think the biggest thing is to enforce things. Just get them to slow down. Get them to pay attention. See them with the phone and they're driving. Pull them over. Give them a ticket. Once that word gets out, it begins to
have a change. I worked in the town of Lexington in the 70s. And Lexington had that reputation. When you get off the highway in Lexington, you backed off, you slowed down, you paid attention to the lights and the
stop signs. full stop at the stop sign because they were everywhere hiding and they were relentless. You wouldn't get a warning, you'd get a ticket. And it was painfully aware to everyone in the in the whole area, the whole North Shore
that if you're in Lexington, take it easy. They were relentless. And that's what we're going to have to do here. We've become a cutthrough town and you've got to do something about it. That's what we not new roads, new rotaries, new traffic
lights, new nothing. You just tell people to slow down or else or you teach them because you ticket them and then their insurance goes up. They learn and word of mouth gets out. It's the same. You're going to get pulled over. They will
they will avoid Milton or they will slow down. That I think is the the only thing you can do that's highlighted under number four. you know, enforcement and you're the first ones to add. Of
course, you're avid bikers in the town and all over. We'll throw our own selves in there and say, "Yeah, I suppose you could you could hire a bunch of high school kids to drive around and report accidents. That would confuse the software and they'd all stay on the expressway."
Don't laugh. I actually did that a couple of weeks ago because accidents, they weren't they weren't staying on the road. They were going on a private lane with the car. I mean, look at look at Governor's Road. That was a cut around East Milton. They were going down there lickety split.
Crazy. Bunch of speed bumps, bunch of speed limit changes, bunch of enforcement. No problem anymore. But now that table on East Milton, that traffic now moved to Reservation Road and Plymouth. Keep doing it.
Plymouth isn't every day. It's not bad. He lives on Plymouth and he said the speeding is crazy because you can't get off. You have to go down and around. Yeah. Well, that's you see what Brooklyn did on almost all the streets. They're spending a fortune.
Brook line. Yes. But yeah, they just make it so there's if you want to go to the next train, you can. But you got the same You could also fix the lights in East Milton, so they made sense. We just discussed that. I was told that when that new deck was done, the lights would be fine.
Perfect. Right. the roundabout and they sit there with no sensors be able to detect the traffic. None of that happened. Well, that's in I did hear from someone who's involved with the lighting that the lights are actually done in Georgia.
Out of Oklahoma, I heard you thought it was Yeah. If you want to change the lights, they're not even the company's in Oklahoma. Yeah. That oversees it. So, the state has to talk to them. Yeah. You learn something new every day. Well, you see the problem here and it's
the same problem as 28 and the same problem is granted app. What is the problem people? You got vision a long way. So you go faster because it's inherently raceway. It makes you go faster unconsciously. But this is one lane each side. So you didn't add
28 is two lanes each side. Yeah. Which is amazing, right? But there have been deaths here. You didn't add any consideration for additional traffic lights anywhere on 138. It's quite a stretch. It's quite a stretch from um the fire station. And
then where's the next set of lights from the fire station? That Neponet Valley Parkway doesn't have lights. No. So, where's the next set of lights at Robin Street? I mean it there's one there there is one up by Robins up up at the at the um school
there right but that's quite a distance from the Aton fire station. So I would add um traffic counts traffic counts you if you wanted you can do magic with traffic lights.
Yeah, it costs money but we just don't bother. Think about the traffic. All traffic lights should have left turn arrows. If you have something Oh, I see. Place that people have the most accidents are turning left.
Yep. So if they're in a situation where where cars are coming at 50 miles an hour towards them and some people don't have the same judgment and they're turning left. Yeah, that's where the that's where some companies actually used to route their uh do from what I
did. This could be fake news that that they try to route most of their deliveries all with right turns. Yes. To avoid the left turns. They've experimented. My neighbor's a state trooper. He said left turns. He says he never drives in the left lane if there's a right lane
available. You know, he always stays the middle or the right. He says that's where most of the deaths are happening in the left lane. So, that's really interesting because the police officer that had to do the traffic duty when they were putting up, you know, the lights that they put up
two years ago that you're going too fast heading down to Ridgewood, heading north on that big hill before Rididgewood in Wallist Golf Club. I went to, you know, say thank you for being here to the people putting the lights up, I mean the signs up. We had asked for them years
before and the officer told me no one should ever take a left turn from um Sassimon or Nanton or Hilltop Extension. He said left. Yeah. He wouldn't even park his car behind the construction truck. He parked
on the side street. He goes, "I'm not putting my car here." and he knew the police officer who died on the asphalt at the bottom of Ridgewood. He was a Boston police officer with four children. He said, "Oh, I'll never forget what happened to that family." Yeah.
Well, Kevin and Bill, I tell you, here his name, right, Courtland. They teach the kids, they they have to go right to Boston. They turn around because it's just he added that. That's really interesting.
What do they do when the bridge is broken? When the bridge is broken, you can't go right and then make the loop in front of two granite. You can when the bridge is up. You mean when the bridge is broken and up? Oh, I
you know what? That's a little bit beyond. So, you do get the U before you do. Well, because you can come out a tube of granite and take a left. Put a um star next to left. That is No one has brought that up and it's huge. That's huge. So you need left turn signals. Yeah.
That's when they did it at over when they put a new light at squum in granite. Yeah. That's what we asked for at the DOT meeting. Yeah. A left turn and it's a lot safer. Oh, it's so much safer going. Um I just want to point out that was on your map.
Here's our fowl meadows. Interstate 95 goes from Florida to Canada, I believe it is, and this town of Milton uh sued with along with others to stop Interstate 95. At one point, the state proposed, and I'm sure I still have
these documents, making Route 28 Randolph A six lanes with no median strip. And the residents, we stopped it by petitioning. Those residents were unable. Oh, I know. What's wrong with six lanes of traffic and trucks? But
well, they figured, well, you didn't want to let us go through F Meadows. Well, look at the American Legion Highway that's just there and stopped. It was They never finished it. I got the old maps. They have a history book of Boston. It shows it shows, you know, it only was
going to go in Milton like right a little bit. Probably not even a half a mile. Yeah. Yeah. And it got stopped. You can see the dots. It shows where it was going to go and where it's going to connect. So you can see where the roads were going to be. It's fascinating. The other uh Can you make a note? Oh,
no. That's the high school. Where's Pierce? Which sector is Pierce? There's retail. There's quite a few accidents there. Well, that's a big That's a busy That's That's a fiveway. Yeah. And people don't know which way to go. I'm heading to Pierce, right?
Yeah. If I I can either go sharp left once. Oh, that's right. Or I can take a straight a medium or this lane can go and you don't know if the people come the other way have
pretty good there. Well, I haven't if they don't run the red light. All right. So, guess what? I think they're the ones that are going to be covering Pierce Reed still wrote it. Go get on. I am going over there. But thank you so much for coming and u brainstorming
because this is some everybody's got different ideas. It's great. Okay, great. So, this is the Canton Avenue group and we've discovered that Introduce yourself, John. Okay. John David Corey, Upper Canton Avenue. Oh, I'm Carrie White. Um,
Lower Canton Avenue. Yeah. Or Canton Avenue. You guys heard Lower Canton Avenue. Hi, Roxan MTO on Milton Street, but I'm near Canton Avenue and also near the 138. So, thank you. Thank you so much, John.
Okay. Want me to talk? give us everything you So we um obviously Canton Avenue is a very long street and actually it's um it divides up into probably three areas lower mid and upper but we've summarized many of the items.
What we actually discovered tonight was that the entire roadway is designated as a no truck zone from top to bottom. It is from 138 all the way to Adam Street. No trucks. Nobody enforces it. Nobody enforces it. So, which was interesting to know that the entire
corridor was You knew that you uncovered that? Uh, no. As we committ Yeah. Um, I learned at when I bought my house when I was looking around real. So, we do have a truck issue top to bottom. And some of the things that we thought of at that were really
lowhanging fruit items would be um that we should make sure all the signs are readable. Yeah. Many are faded or covered. Many are covered with trees. replace any damaged ones. Um, also confirm the locations of the not inventory of the signs.
Yeah. Well, we have here we say confirm sign locations for best. Right. But make it an inventory because the reason I say that is the state has an inventory. So when I notify the state that this sign missing, they go back and say, "Oh, you're we know which sign goes there." So the traffic commission discussed this
at the last meeting. I'm at the traffic commission. Cool. And I brought this up to them a number of times and they're in the process. Marina is in process of buying signs to post it properly and put a plan together on where they would be posted and so on. And they do have the town does have a full GIS system and it does have the
signs in the GIS system supposedly. No, if you do go into the system, you actually see the signs in the system. Now whether we somebody should validate that we should validate that because if it's done via satellite all those trees, you will cover some of them. Uh, and then one of the ideas too
is possibly on some of the signs add the fine like a small white sign. This is fine 175 or whatever it is just to remind people that you're going to get fined if you get caught. And it kind of gives them a second thought. Maybe I'm going to do it once but I'm not going to do it a second time. That kind of
Can we Can we add a camera? I know. You can't tick it with the cameras and Right. If I know that's Massachusetts law. No, it's not our town. It's a mass law. So they have access to some people are going to a different is going to work on that.
This is aspirational. So we're going to say possible camera enforcement. Yep. For no trucks. You can shame people that the company's going doing it five times a day. I saw another truck. Another hurt truck. Yes.
Even if it's not for enforcement, at least it's for information. Yes, the camera. Well, they're good for a car crash, too. They're good for a car. Okay. So, then obviously, uh, Canton Avenue, by the way, are the crimes, too. Is Well, since they can't see the board, I guess I'll keep it like this so I can read it. Oh, he can. He's got the board.
Oh, he can read it. Yeah. Read the board, right? It's upside down. Okay, I understand that. Okay. So, I was just trying to write something here. Cut through traffic is a major quality of life issue for the residents. And then obviously we know the story on all the
streets in town, especially, you know, Milton Street or Canton Avenue, upper, middle, or lower. It's the speeding and aggressive driving. Mostly it's the cut through traffic that we all suffer from. Um, Upper Canton Avenue in particular is not walkable. A, many parts don't have a
sidewalk, and B, the cars are just going way too fast to feel comfortable. Milton Street is the same thing. There's no sidewalks, and it's not walkable, period. Uh, and that's a major quality of life issue for the neighborhood. Um, we should implement measures to slow
cars down and return a balance to the street and neighborhood. Potentially add more crosswalks to tie neighborhoods together. Um, to slow cars down, build resistance into the streets to slow everyone down. Um, my editorial is tired
of living on a BMW track because it's curved like that. It looks like a BMW ad and it's that was it's not just a BMW track, it's a BMX track. So, what are your thoughts on the speed mitigation? What do you speak? So, what do you think? Uh, well, even temporary measures work
and can help rebalance. And as far as like, you know, I've been told no on everything, speed humps, everything. But I, in my book, I would pick D. All the above. Yeah. So, I would do speed humps. I would do little balls to neck down the road. I
would do little gr curves. I would do a a boulder on the corner of the road to kind of make sure they don't cut too tight. Um there's a lot of inexpensive ways, right? Inexpensive ways to target it. And and I just I'll just I'll say even temporary measures
work and can help rebalance the street. And many times I've been I've worked with the town on getting some temporary measures in, see how they worked. Some didn't, some did. and the temporary measures that did work then you make them permanent and it could take a couple of years
and that's what the state wants to do on 28 but at least at least get temporary before Labor Day but the town sat on it get something in that's not going to happen get something in that's all the whole discussion so I have a question about um so one of the first things I remember a couple years ago and the cars keep going over
it what's the right hand turning you know there's a granite planter area and all the cars keep taking down the signs is Did you see the sign go hit again? It's like why do you have Can I The question is how does the car hit the sign going north,
right? Shouldn't it hit Shouldn't it hit going south because you're hitting the corner? Yeah. I looked at it today. I said, "What could they possibly be doing to hit the sign on this side?" Is it the curve? Is it the curb that they just don't car or is it a truck?
A camera would tell us. A camera would tell us kicking that left and they go right over the sign. the camera be movable too that the town could Well, they rotate. No, no, no. The town could buy some. I think I think there are issues with
I do think so too from that's the only I actually think that that should be so I'll just say number three. I'll just keep going if you don't mind. I'll just finish it up because we're going to go to But I was wondering were you responsible for them doing that at a No, that was there when I came back into town. That was there. It wasn't there
when I grew up though. 40 years ago there. I was like, "Oh, I drove it to town after 20 years." You know, I'm like, "Oh, the island's there." But John, I wanted to just follow up on one thing you said about the mitigation things about like be the speed humps or whatever. There's precedents. They just put in two
on Governor's Road last year. That's right. 138 highway. Yeah, but we're not we're not we're still on Canton Avenue. We're talking about No, but I'm saying this isn't road. This is a long road. So, but I do say here number three,
allocation of town budget must be adjusted to help the residents's safety with increased enforcement and traffic calming devices on Canton Avenue throughout town. And then I'll just as a as a as a as proof, why is there only enough money in the budget to
rebuild one road in Milton per year? Marina said that. Marina said that testified. Nope. She testified in front of the select board. Yes. Chapter 90 money comes to the town. That's state money, right? She's talking about Milton money. This is enough money in the town budget
to rebuild one road in Milton per year. And I'll say town budget. Thank you for chapter 90. Thank you for picking up on that. Had not heard that. That that that tells us that there's a rebalance problem. Oh, absolutely. There's a problem. Um and then I said,
okay. And then we talked about uh building permits and how after a big construction project, the roads don't get restored the way. And then we'd like to see we'd like to see the town leverage the building permit process to get the
best deal. So rebuild the road, keep an eye on it, and make sure have an engineer sign on. Yeah. Steve said take something a little extra. They don't get a permit, an occupancy permit until their road is fixed properly. Um same for utility work
holding accountable to ensure first class road construction. And then we also talked about um uh some roads in town namely Canton Avenue is also a scenic road and this is just adds a sense of place and sense of builds awareness to add small signs.
Is there anywhere along the stretch that you would want an extra the crosswalk or lights? Yes. Where did you list that? Milton Academy. Um they have to they they have the centry. John had a great idea though about like
giving att No, this is trucks add more crosswalks to tie neighborhoods together. And I would say the word I would say at Athetherton. Yeah. Oh, that's true. At dollar at dollar lane. Yeah, for sure. Um I mean at the minimum
counts there at Make a little note for traffic. Who's going to be walking there though? Not necessarily. It's to slow traffic down. Even if you got one, we have friends who live on Athetherton who have dogs. They have I have neighbors that can't cross the street. I have people on my next to my
neighbors that cross and I see them run across the street. It's not fair. It's not fair. Does anyone have a Tesla? No, I don't. All right. Does anyone have a GoPro? That So, you know who has a Tesla? Jack Irwin.
Jack. Okay. So, what's really good is driving and getting the video because that's where you pick everything up such as who's walk, you know, maybe if he does it at different times of the day. So, that would help. 803. Yes.
Yes. Right. But I had one last point that I'm not sure if you guys picked up on. Um, let me write down. I'm just going to upper I'm going to call it upper middle. It's actually Milton Academy sign when you're coming past St. Ease. Every year
I have to call. There is a 30 mph speed limit right before the crosswalk. Yeah. You have no idea it's there. It's totally grown over. Here you go. You want the sheet? No, keep it on here for now. That's good. Um because I'm just going to try to give a summary as we move and gather
together. Uh thank you again for spending a summer night to try to bring safety. Thanks for bringing us all together. It's just Thank you. That's just and keep going on that traffic commission. Let's look at the bylaws. But they don't meet right now. You're good at that. Why don't you look at the bylaws? The traffic commission. I have another
idea. I'm going to explain. Can you bring this up here? Okay. And then we may have to go. Can we all meet over here? I can't thank you all enough for taking a summer night in August to be here. And I am so impressed with the discussions that you had. Um, has someone said I
said you there are so many different original ideas in each group of the quadrants that we broke down to and someone said well we all we have all different brains so it's really good to put those brains to work. Uh, one topic the biggest topic I think that came up
was traffic enforcement. One person went so far as to say, and I know this person never drives a Randolph a um to say that they don't remember when they've ever seen a car pulled over. Due to the tragic death of three people on July 5th in my neighborhood, the state police and
the Milton police have upped the amount of traffic enforcement. I also learned um at one of the selectman's meetings where the engineers were that there are funds left over. Can you imagine funds left over for traffic enforcement? Um,
and that's why I just cannot stand to see any more people die or be disabled. People forget, you don't always find out how disabled someone might be, the pain that they're living with, the cost to
their families, the loss of income. Um, disabilities are tragic. But someone mentioned Lexington. You would never speed through Lexington because Lexington has traffic enforcement. You also will not speed through Rockland. I
don't know if you're familiar with that, but what I talked to the Rockland police because I know Rockland very well. We used to go to the ice skating ring and we would have bridal showers and baby showers. And even though you told everyone, "Don't speak when you get to Rockland." Sure enough, one group of
carload of people would come in late. We got ticketed. Um, Rockland has a traffic unit. This is what I'm suggesting. And I'd almost say that we need to demand. The traffic unit in Rockland has three
E. Enforcement is number one. Education is number two. Engineering is number three. Has anyone ever heard of the three E? I mean, how genius is this? I believe I mentioned this place years ago, but I am
going to get Don't tell me I have to go over again. Okay. Um, I am going to get uh a phone call from one of the two lieutenants um this week. They took my contact info and I even asked Siri for the police budget of
Rutland. And remember I said there's no political speeches here but I do want to pass this along in case I don't survive going home on Randolph F. Um I said Siri Rockland Massachusetts police budget it
brought it up. I asked Siri from Milton Massachusetts police budget. Not only does it not bring it up but it is not on the town website. I I tried to look it should the whole every department should be on the website. Um, can you imagine
Siri knew how to get it? So, this is what I heard from almost every group, enforcement. But I find the second E, education is very interesting. You know, police officers going to the schools when the kids are going to be getting their driver's license. Um, what they
used to do in the old days before the proms, they would show two cars that were crashed and engineering. Um, thank you for the people that are currently on the traffic commission, but the traffic commission doesn't necessarily meet
regularly. And the traffic commission is just an advisory to advise. They don't decide. The police traffic unit in Rockland actually takes actions. Um so passing
that on the can't nav we pretty much had a lot of different ideas um from each of the groups which cover those three topics but things like um I have a whole list and I'm going to add every town every section you've mentioned traffic
counts um if they if the state on the major highways through town do traffic counts they had no idea until I called the state sorry about using the word I that the animal shelter actually was functioning and that there was a 40
apartment unit being built on the access road, meaning large trucks were coming in and out. They had no idea once they were told that they came out and made that traffic signal a real functioning signal, but that should be the town. I
know we have a lot of turnover. Um Chase Berkeley, the the work he did was phenomenal with us. Um, I know Marina is trying to get up to speed on everything. Um, keeping them obviously as informed as we can is important, but we have to
start at the top. We have to start start with Governor Healey because she's the one that controls Masdot and then the state reps um, and the select board. But the engineers three weeks ago said that they wanted I know they were going to
actually do a rumble lane down the middle of a after the three people passed away and that was put off because the engineers were going to meet with the select board. So that took two more weeks. At that meeting they were asked
to give a pilot uh report some suggestions options for Randolph A. And I don't want to just focus on Randolph A because there are people dying, you know, on various streets, pedestrians
even. Um, and so what they did was they gave the report within like seven days, and yet nothing's been done. So that's why um, coming together tonight as residents is really going to we're going
to write this all up. I will send it to all of you. We got your email addresses. If not, make sure they're on the list. Um, you can make any corrections if I misunderstood some of these notes. Um, make any or or if you think of something else along the way, that would be
wonderful. Um, I really can't thank you enough. There just so many things, but the traffic counts will make a big difference in adding crosswalks, whether it's crosswalks like at Eagle Farm. Um, we
also discussed up on 138, was it 138? The group on 138 about it's a straightaway, right? The corner straightaway. If people have a straightaway, they're just going to dart down it. Um, I'd like to know from you.
Open discussion. I I can repeat it if the mic doesn't pick it up. John, question. We open discussion. I have a question. Yeah. I want you guys We'll go right around the room. Okay. Question. The question is um which elected officials came here tonight and
how many select board members are here? No select board members are here. I will um give them a uh passing because this was put together late Friday. So if two or more of them wanted to be here, it
was too late for them to post um that they were going to attend. Well, okay. I think that they should sit in the back of the room and listen to the outrage that the residents have that the cars are terrorizing our neighbors and I
think they need to hear that. Where are they? They better listen to this on the select on the access TV. This is going to be on YouTube and they should take note. It's going to be on YouTube because the residents are not happy that none of them are here and the fact that they sat on the Randolph Avenue and
didn't the DO actually stepped up and they said we will do it by Labor Day. Yeah, that's a huge push forward and then the opportunity gets squandered. That's a problem. And the residents aren't going to stand for it anymore. No, we're not. No.
So, they're going to be held accountable. I hope they know that. I hope they're listening. Uh that was John David who's done a lot of work and we're going to post since the town's website doesn't have everything. You've done a lot of
writing and research and the those on the traffic commission. We're going to um I can't do it but somebody might be able to create a website road and traffic safety Milton Milton road and traffic safety and we'll just put everything out there that'll bring in more ideas. Uh Roxanne, what did you get
out of tonight or what's missing in our discussion? Um I think that a lot of things have been discussed before in the past. I think that we didn't act on them. I think that a lot of these issues have been going around for years
and have been spoken about, but no action was taken on the It's interesting because a phone call I got shortly after the engineers spoke and the engineers went outside and met with us. We were kicked outside with all the mosquitoes because the um select
board believed that the door to the meeting had to be closed. I now have received from the attorney general's office, don't ever let them kick you outside of a building. Um they've been informed to have a sign that they put up. This is an open meeting. Open the door and come in. So, I'm just sharing
that little side so you don't get if you attract mosquitoes, you don't get bitten alive that bothers you for days. But the resident who called me said exactly what you two just said that you got to strike while the iron's hot. You know, people are going to forget that three people
died. Well, obviously they've already forgotten because that's where they want the bus to stop. Steve, safety was one of the big things we talked about. We talked about ambulances having to go down the wrong way down Main Therough, whether it's Randolph Avenue, um whether it's Granite
A, um whether it's going through East Milton Square. Um, I mean there were a number of things, but safety seemed to big be a big one. There could be a head-on collision just because of the ambulance trying to get to the whether they're trying to get on the highway, which is all, you know, congested, but how do they get to the scene of the
accident? And I did end up at 450 Granite A because of the new construction, you know, where the barriers are along that big building on the ambulance had to sit through three seven cycles of the light. If I was capable, I would
have gone up and made the I did stop traffic years ago when I had the energy. Um, seven cycles with his thing reeling and reeling. And so I called the fire chief the next day. Randolph ambulances have a device if they need to go through
a light such as on a they come down at 7-Eleven and they get in the lefthand head-on lane. So cars coming from Pleasant Street could, you know, it's very close over there. They have a device, but none of our Milton lights have a device. They would turn it on and
the traffic would have to stop to move the traffic away from in front of them. That's a budget item, and that's why we need to realign the budget to save lives in Milton. Um Kevin, yeah. Well, thanks Diane for getting us
all together. Um, the East Milton Group talked a lot about congestion, particularly a lot of us live in uh I live over right here on Courtland Circle. And you know, on a on a weekday, we have to take a right out of my street to then go down to the island and then
take a U-turn to then go back south onto Granite A. And I know there's been discussions of lights and discussions of crosswalks, which I know Joan Fall will probably talk about crosswalk visibility, but it it presents a real danger um because you don't you you do not want to take a left going out of
Courtland Circle because you have a left lane that's oncoming that you can't really see that is going too fast and congestion and also neighborhood cutthroughs in East Milton, particularly with the recent developments that have gone on there. You know, now Franklin Street is a oneway. Obviously, you have
a lot of cars that are just parking in front of people's homes for various hours of the day on Franklin Street. You have congestion that goes through Wood Street and Franklin Street and Antrip Street that backs up for miles on end. So, congest congestion and a real plan to address that is something that uh we
talked about a lot in the East Milton Group and we'll have ongoing discussions on that. So, uh Joan, another Tommy member and thank you Joan for getting the boards for us. No problem. Um so Kevin prompted me to talk about crosswalks um in particular
on Granite A um or any main street and how they need to be really visited a just go they they don't look for people in the crosswalks. I've seen so many people almost get hit. Um there needs to be lights at those crosswalks
especially at cross streets. Um I like Hob Courtland thistle area. Um and I and even down the street a little bit further like more towards the square. I think there's a crosswalk down there
that um needs by that like right where you can make the the big Y turn. I think that needs a light too. um just for vis visibility for people to stop because they don't
stop and people are going to get hurt. Well, people have been have been killed, people have been disabled and that's why we're here. And I would love to hear what Brian's point is. Um well, make sure that every intersection has a left turn signal.
I love that one. That's good because from the police's uh police officer's perspective and from what happens at uh Chicklet, it's the left turn that causes the crashes. I'm going to let the mommy who's dancing with the baby speak next.
Oh, wait. Do you two quickly want to add anything? You think everybody's covered it? Thank you so much for coming. Um, Caitlyn. Um, so our group was really focused on discussing uh traffic and safety concerns for Route 28 Randolph A. And
first I just really appreciated how respectful the conversation was. We had representatives um from neighborhoods on both sides of 28 both kind of locked neighborhoods um cut through neighborhoods and then residents living right on Randolph AB. Um so everyone
kind of is coming from a different perspective. she doesn't like to share. And um so I just really appreciated that. Um safety was definitely our major focus. Um not only how to improve safety along that corridor, but also to um preserve
safety in our neighborhoods as well as we look at different options for that stretch of roadway. Um, and so I think that we had some good consensus on on certain issues and we're just kind of looking forward to MASDOT implementing
um some safety changes along that stretch um and moving forward with this pilot study. Mary, yeah, just picking up on Caitlyn's description. Um, we had a number of kind
of specific ideas about how to improve the safety along that route 24 between and resale. Adding some traffic lights. Um, implementing the pilot road diet with um some careful monitoring of how
that proposed center left turn lane would work. I think some of us in the group were concerned that um a wide open left turn lane in the middle for the whole two-m stretch might be utilized by some drivers to just pass
others. So some of the variations that Mas thought put forward would have left turn pockets and more of a median. So I think I think that the opinion in our group wasn't totally unified, but we really are concerned. We definitely
support the road diet which would give room on both sides of the road for traffic enforcement um actions and um ambulances need to get by and a bike lane on each side. You know, yes, it's going to result in backups. We
understand that. But we think it's more important to make the road safer and slow down. And I just want to be sure everyone understands that mass dot these proposals in the report. If you don't have it, you can let me know or like I said, I'm going to find someone who can
create a website for us. But the um the police immediately contacted me when they saw the middle lane just left right down. They said, "Diane, we'll just have way too many head-on crashes." And to your point also, um one of the reasons
there wasn't much traffic enforcement was because they're afraid, you know, they're really afraid of getting hurt themselves. So, and it is going to be pilot options. So, it's not we're picking one and we're sticking with it. They not us, but Masdot is
going to try a few different options. The permanent aspect could take years to get trees down the middle. You know, people are sending me pictures of the bike lane on the other side of the sidewalks, which is beautiful, but we're talking about saving lives
tonight, not a month from now. So, those were really good points. And why do I forget your name? I'm sorry. I'm also part of the Hillside neighborhood, right? Um I mean, Mayor K, you already
mentioned most of it. Um, again, my concern is a pilot study when that will begin and it seems that it's forgotten for some reason. It's good to go back to our uh representatives to remind them about their promise. Um, and capture on
TV as well. Uh, so the whole town knows. Um and uh one another question was about uh being mindful of the businesses around the avenue and how with the pilot program or with any government structure with you know traffic can be permitted
to go in and out of those businesses. You raised a good point. Masked was invited to come tonight. However, we all know there's fifoms in political um
groupings. So, because of the state reps, the governor and um the select board, they deferred. So, they will be watching this a and they will receive a copy of the summary, but they were invited to be here tonight since the only time we got to talk to them
directly was outside with the mosquitoes and the other they were wonderful though. They're all engineers. They really wanted to get this done before Labor Day. Um, I think those three deaths really shook them up because that's their job is to keep us safe. So,
I do appreciate the work they've done, but um we have to put the pressure on and that's why um we had a meet and we have to make demands. You know, you can be nice, but we can still politely demand that um what I heard at the
selectman's meeting last night was that after they meet next Wednesday night, the night before school begins is when they're discussing Route 28. I don't know how many parents can attend, but after that they're thinking of having a public hearing. So, we just week after
week we're just delaying and delaying any of these safety features. So, I think that um the public can easily add with emails and everything else. It's very easy to email the Slackman, by the way. It's now sb townofilton.org.
You don't have to email each one of them. So, thank you for raising that point. Uh John Uh, I got to tell you, since that tragic accident, the state has stepped up. Yep. They cut the trees. They got the sideline in good condition. They got the
lights coming on all the time, Diane. And it has helped. It has helped. Oh, yeah. And they have tried. And the whole thing about that is people's speed. They can't stop people from speeding. And it's a time of day, the time of night. And
there's other factors why those four people were killed. Three. No. Oh, you're talking about the one at the bottom of my drive. Four. I had on television. Yep. I was there 10:00 at night. So there's four within a year within. And there's other factors involved in
that. Yes. That we don't know about. All right. We still don't know the cause of that. In fact, the traffic unit, there's very interesting information. The traffic I want to put this on the record. Um the
traffic unit's part of the communityoriented police and problem solving unit. Um they're they developed a traffic oriented police and problem solar function within the unit. So they have two separate um attacks on it. They
enforce all traffic laws. They investigate collisions. They're certified in accident reconstruction specialists. I don't know if we have that. Um they handle parking enforcement including RVs, abandoned vehicles, vehicles parked illegally, special
events and par uh parades. The interesting thing is when you, you know, go to East Square, you'll see a car run in to pick some a food up and a handicapped person can't park. You've got one handicap spot there and I've
received numerous calls about that. So if you are stopped, motor vehicles speeding through residential neighborhoods is the number one concern of the residents of Rockland. And the police department is committed to awareness, education, and enforcement.
At this year at town meeting, the police budget, the entire safety budget was not even going to be discussed. It was lumped into one of some 35 articles. Let's just vote the whole pile. And there was no way I made calls. There was no way that that can be done. Public
safety. Uh the police budget is short. We actually are missing um two offices on it. So there's a lot of work. If anyone likes looking into budgets, I would really appreciate it. Um
so who's missing? Did I did I just Okay, go ahead. So we had camp nav and my wife and I live on lower camp now off of Adam Street and my number one concern and it's being worked on is the trucks going
through there and it's a no truck road anything over two and a half as Elliot Street is one other street I can't remember it's been discussed at the traffic committee commission meetings and there's signs that are being purchased but putting signs up is not going to stop it
and so it's going to need to be enforced. And the biggest issue with Canada is just all the traffic cutting through, but this is an easy way for us to cut that down. And I probably see 20 empty Boston school buses on Camp Dav every day. I don't know where they're going, what they're coming from. I see
20 rides a day that are empty. And I know half of them should have somebody in it because you're picking somebody up and bringing them somewhere. Do they go down the Parkway then? I have no idea. I don't follow them. I'm going to follow them. I'm going to stop following. We need data. We need data. And it's just ridiculous. It's constant
and you know trucks big uh dump trucks hauling dirt. There isn't any big projects going on on Cant off. So they're just cutting supposed to be there. Yeah. No. So thank you. Yeah. So that was we discussed it quite a bit that I think can be fixed pretty easily.
Okay. And um I know Liz arrived a little behind but Liz just quickly what's your number one concern for road and traffic safety in town? Here's the speed and the the not following
normal traffic laws. I did actually speak with someone at the DPW. It might have been the traffic uh person who recommended that I go to the next meeting which they don't have, but she right. There's no rhyme or
reason going over the West Bum Bridge over the highway. if you're heading towards Quinzy. One time there was a woman, there was a car next to me heading on the westbound
side going east on the bridge because when they come off West Ban Street going south on the expressway, they think that that's an off-ramp that continues on. It's part of the bridge going over which is West Guan. And I've seen and then one night I was
coming back from Quinsey driving westbound on West Guan. I was in on the overpass over the highway and someone was heading right towards me on the same side. So I suggested that putting in a sign where they come off the highway at West
Bum and stop to put a sign that says you are entering the two-way street. But interesting. I had not heard that point. And if people live near there, maybe you could um take a picture and send it to me. I'm sorry. I forget. I'm so bad.
Helen, that's right. Helen Bautilini. Uh Helen, your points and um that'll keep us to one hour and 30 minutes. My points were pretty much the same um as the neighborhood association stated.
The traffic, the speed. I personally didn't know that another 40 units was going in up on the old dump area along with the 902 going across the street.
That's an incredible amount of traffic to put on to 28 on top of what we already have. And I hope Mass DOT is aware of that because they weren't aware of the other. They I actually told them they are aware that's how they learned to make that light
of both. Yeah. Work and I think we need a lot more lights. I think that's the only thing that's going to slow traffic is more lights on 28. So, do I have a volunteer to create a website for us? Do we have anyone in the
room who I do know that the um Irwins uh Jack and Cole are very good at that, but um one of them was working, the other one couldn't make it. So, we're going to have to put pressure on them to help us make a website to gather all this data because I want the report submitted at
Citizens Peak next Wednesday to the Slackman. Actually, I think we'll submit the report prior to their meeting because they're going to be discussing Route 28 with the engineers there next Wednesday. If you can all save the date. Once
again, um you've been amazing. I can't thank you enough. [Applause] Genie. What? Who did I miss? Oh, wait a minute. Did you talk? Oh, Genie. Genie doesn't want to talk. How about Bob? Miss Carrie.
Bob. Um, I'm sorry. I like the idea of left turn signals. I love that. I think it could be something fairly quick to do with the existing lights. Yes, it's replacing a head, replacing controls. It might be under six figures to do that. Um, the second thing I want
to bring up is markings on the road itself. Yeah. When you pull up to an intersection, you get right to the intersection, there's one arrow telling you this is a left turn lane and it's under a truck. So, you don't know what lane you're in. So, this lane
is turning left in front of you and you're going straight and everybody's confused. If you start marking further down the road saying this lane is left turn only way before you get there. You have time to get out of that lane if you're not turning left.
Give them some kind of a warning. Uh it's less expensive than putting signs over the road. The signs over the road are just spraying some white, you know, get some a better feeling of what you're coming up to at this next set of lights
way in front of you. I also do want to just ask everyone um this used to be Heritage Hall and the veterans that ran it, you know, have passed away. It's now been taken over by Dan. Um he was wonderful to set this up. I want to
thank um him. But I'd also like you to if you're on Facebook to follow American Legion Post 114. There is no expensive expense. They don't want any funding and yet they have had to do a lot. um to get rid of the
debt that they had. So, this is an amazing um building. We don't have to pay anything. And he even set up the chairs. So, I really would appreciate if we can all somehow support them by following them. And I'd also very much like to thank Milton Access TV for
recording this so that as we pointed out, everyone can watch it. Thank you so much. [Applause] [Music]