All right. So, I'd like to call the board of park commissioners meeting to order uh April 16th, 2026. My name is Rob Lee Bash. the chair of the chair of the board. Ted >> Ted Carol member >> Carol Cahill member.
>> All right. Uh just first order of business, I'd like to just thank Ted Carol for his uh for all your time being on this board. This is your last This is your last meeting. I've really enjoyed my time spent with you and you'll be surely missed. So >> appreciate it. Thank you. >> A phone call away, right?
>> Phone call away. Yeah, >> probably we're more involved now, >> right? >> But thanks for also uh you know participating in in this uh study and I think we're getting close, Ryan. Probably about a month away or so. I think that's the goal is is to try to
wrap some of this up. Um but you know, I think that's our first order of business, right? Um >> Oh, we should do the the meeting minutes approval. >> Um did did you sign them? Yeah. So, can I get a motion for approve?
>> Uh, I would like I'll make a motion to approve the meetings for 3526 and 32526. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. All right. Um, I don't Is there anyone else online? We have public
comment. Is there anyone else online? There's no one here. >> If not, we can move on. All right. Um, so just as an update for the recreational master plan, obviously we met with the sports leagues tonight.
Um, I'd like to just say Ryan, I think, um, it was a little longer than I had hoped, but I think it was good because it was like a good dry run of a draft. Um, especially as we prepare for town meeting, I really appreciate the uh, start of the conceptual design work and and looking at that uh, the fields and
such, which I think we should spend a bulk of our time on today. But I think in order to the next goal would be to present at town meeting and I think it needs to be really really sharp. I would not go over the data whatsoever because I think it's like a little bit
confusing. I think what we need to do, at least from what I my takeaway from last night, Ryan, was like we could put a slide or two, right? And the the major piece of this is like the outcome that what I've heard from you last night was we need three or four multi-purpose
fields and we need potentially like two baseball like two diamonds, right, that are 60. That would be my big takeaway. And then I would go to I don't want to go through like a town meeting to say this is our design work, but it would be great to have like one slide that just
shows that we're thinking about the design work and just to say hey this is how we would go that route. We would say listen we're starting to do the to make changes in existing fields. But my takeaway is is that to get to those
numbers we really just don't have the space. Yes, we can make improvements, but my takeaway on it is kind of two routes, and I'm I'm curious to know what you guys think of this. One route is if you go the natural turf, we definitely
don't have the field space. And if we were to go the synthetic, if we go synthetic turf, that potentially gives us like a lot of more bang for our buck, right, with our existing facility. So, like Ryan, one thing that I think you showed last night is like if it was
three to four multi-purpose fields and they were grass, that's what we would need. But what we were saying was like if we went to two synthetic turf fields including lower Gaia, right, that may potentially like really serve the town well. And I don't know if we want to
approach that, but we could almost say, listen, here's here's where we're at as a town. One is like if you guys really want grass field then we really need to start looking for land to do natural grass field. If we don't the the synthetic turf fields offer us an option
and we would like to do a hybrid of like having natural grass but potentially where else do we do like synthetic turf fields in town right and I think some of your planning like even at Flattley you had one synthetic turf field and then you had some grass. So that's kind of my
thinking is like you know do we even want to approach that subject knowing that it took 10 years to even go down a turf field but some of the data represents in in your data the important points was like 74% of people supported synthetic turf field and I do think it
would be helpful to give an update to town meeting because the last time we were there and I think I'll have to get the dates and whatnot is like by the way this this body approved this overwhelmingly besides a minority to get this project in. It's still not it's
still in litigation, right? So, I think it's just it would be good to approach it that way and kind of like I would close on that to say, listen, here's the problem. Here's kind of the two routes and and what do you guys think about that? Do would you think that's worth
approaching as like a two option thing or do we not? >> I think it's important for Ryan to share that after speaking with the youth organizations that you know people would love natural grass fields. >> Yeah,
>> the maintenance of natural grass fields is just not sustainable when we have this many kids using these fields. And I think that's the most important piece that needs to be driven home. So what's a solution to that? A solution to that
is the town buys more land and we create more fields. >> Yeah. >> A solution to that is we look at putting astroturf in which basically Ryan, if you can use the example that one astroturf field is basically worth three
grass fields. >> That's huge. >> That's huge. you know, >> um I think we just have to make sure we let people know like >> we would love to do natural grass fields if we had the space. >> It's not a you know, >> it's not a one or nothing.
>> As much as everybody wants this turf project to go through that um that's not why we did this master plan is to show the town that we need turf fields. >> Yeah, exactly. It's just one outcome out
of it is like here's the two points, right? And for the people that love grass fields, guess what? If you want that, >> we're we're going to have to look for other land in order to like get a park. That's going to be expensive, too, right? I don't have a solution. Like, at
the end of the day, we have to look at both options, right? And I think we can make like small improvements, Ryan, right? Like we can say the thing is we're going to this master plan is still worth it because we're going to make these improvements but as a as another piece of this there's going to have to
be like we need to look at an investment to to expand the program basically as at the end of the day. >> Where's the where's the other study stand? >> So they haven't even started it. That would be nice if they if we could combine these now now is the time where we could say like
>> I did get something from them. I know that there are ADA um they went through every single parcel between schools, conservation, parks and they gave suggestions on what to do but recently strictly ADA I just got it
recently. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So I think we should mention that Ryan too, right? Like so what I'm thinking of in my spare time these days I you know I'm going to create the presentation for town meeting like I think it would be worth it Ryan for you and I to schedule
a call before town meeting probably >> sure >> in in the next week or two weeks I I I will spend I would want to do like maybe 10 slides right and I think it would be worth >> we can't do that >> it would be worth getting your book on
too so if that's if we have to do that. We're going to have to set up a public meeting. >> I think I would like to do that to have Caroline's input with us. Um I think that's going to be really important. So Bonnie, I think we should probably just find a time in the next two weeks to do
it. >> Yeah. >> And we set it up, Ryan. And >> if you and Carolyn meet, that represents a quorum. Rob, >> it would because there's three of us and there's only there's only two. We can we can like I would be flexible with when
we meet. We don't have to meet at 7:30. >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure you'd have to >> I think we still have to post it. >> Yeah, we would still have to post it and everything. Yeah. So, like this week be a public meeting, but we can make it whenever. >> Um, so do you want to figure out what
that time is now to do that? >> Sure. >> Um, let's So, May I got to work backwards. Um, what does your week look like for the 27th through the 1st?
>> I can um Oh, I should be able to link >> What is your week? So, I I want to give myself at least a week because I'm just so crazy busy. I I would like probably do it in at in the evening or something to on this presentation. So, but I think that week, Ryan, would work for me.
obviously would have to be morning or evenings because I'm just slammed at work. >> Um, >> so what works for you? Or or you know what, to be fair, I probably I'm at a conference. What about Friday, May 1st?
>> Uh, yeah, I can make Friday, May 1st work. >> What What time? >> Uh, right now I have something at 9 and something at 11 and the afternoon wide open. So, >> do you want to do the afternoons?
>> Yeah. How about 1:00? Would that work for you? 1:00 on Friday. >> All right. So, Bonnie, can you post that May 1st at 1:00? And we would just, you know, have a remote meeting Zoom and we would um my hope is I will come to that Ryan with a present. Oh, so the only
thing is can you share your like your presentation from yesterday, right, with me? You may we we may do you're going to probably do tweaks because we'll look at that in a second. >> Um But if you could at least share that with me that I would use that as kind of like a framework my idea is to like
concise that down to like 10 slides max. >> Yeah. And I think what we can do is I have some thoughts on how the order of things so I can email you and Yeah. Yeah. >> Um and a couple of points too with more grass fields is you need a bigger
budget. >> Yeah. budget we can't maintain what we have today. And then another thing is like field hockey they don't play under so they need synthetic >> right
>> so you you gota you can't forget about >> so so I think as we go through I Ryan you know I see this thing as two options right one is like synthetic there's pluses and minuses for like going that route there's pluses and minuses for natural grass field to Kevin's point is
>> there's a lot more maintenance for natural grass fields right so not only are we looking for more wind and take care of it everybody wants that. But there's also some really good average or Kevin, you might find out this. The average cost to maintain a rectangular grass field
>> grass >> yearly. >> I know what synthetic is. It's around 8,000. And how much is it? And it's grass for >> quadruple it. The way you the way you phrase that conversation or the way you
set that conversation up is is to what level are you maintaining the natural turf field? If you're going to maintain the natural turf field to play at the same level as a synthetic turf field, communities can spend up to $40,000 a year on maintaining that natural turf field. Now, when I say that in a public
meeting standpoint, everyone says we're not spending $40,000 on your natural turf field. And of course, you're not. you're probably spending $10,000 or less on your natural turf fields in order to maintain them. >> But that's why they play like they play because you only have that amount of budget to have. >> And so if you want them to play like
they like they play like a collegiate field, >> then then you've got to make that either maintenance investment or you've got to make the upfront capital investment so that they play like that continuously. Um, yeah. So, like Kevin's saying, it's probably 20 20 some odd thousand a year
to maintain a rectangle field or whatever. So, I think >> if we're going to put these two points out, like listen, there's pluses and minuses to both, right? And both are going to come at a cost, right? Either long-term cost or initial cost or whatever. Um, I also think as a piece of
that presentation, we're going to have to say, listen, most tax, I'm not looking for to go out for tax money. The reason why we're doing the open space and recck plan is so that we can unlock state grants, right? And one thing too would be helpful is to say, listen, we have the CPA. The CPA is a really good
use, but remember, we can't use it for synthetic turf fields, right? >> We can use to your point, Ryan, we could use it for some things, but we can't use it for the carpet and everything else. So, >> pad the infill. >> Yeah, there's a lot I think to wrap in this. And then probably some of the
feedback too is I think we really do need to be like even on our design and stuff we need to say like I you know we had like soccer fields and it was just soccer like it should just say multi-purpose fields or whatever so that we like check the box and even if
there's like different lines or something on the fields fine but um I just want to be cognizant of that but I don't want to >> I I don't want to get into the weeds of every single design that we looked at last night because we're just going to open up a huge fan and pickle ball
anyway. >> It's not beneficial. >> And neighbors I just think will feel like they weren't part of the process. And >> I don't think that >> Yeah. And we can I think we can present it Ryan as like we're just starting this and like put up maybe we say
>> we're looking at four main fields in town, right? And we just do it and you have like snapshots of them and we can say like this is in progress. >> Yeah. I think we just need to let town meeting know which lets the public know what Yeah. and where where we have some deficiencies and how can we solve those
problems >> and you know it's it's going to be a whole community effort if we decide to >> go forward >> try and solve these problems. Here are some solutions. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. >> And I wouldn't >> Yeah. You don't want to get like in the
>> We just need to let Tommy know what the results, you know, I think we have to present what some of the results of the survey are. >> Yeah. >> Um, you know, I I think it should be noted that Kevin and his crew have done a great job with the fields with the resources that they have. I think that
needs to be highlighted in the presentation and I think we just need to let people know that there is a lack of space like I said. So, so we'll we'll >> we'll work on like so if if you can get
me back like some of your thoughts in an outline, I will do the presentation so it doesn't totally rely on these guys, right? >> Um but I will use your information, Ryan. Like I I could even use some slides and pop them in my in a
presentation and then we'll go from there. Um and then it's May 6th would be the ne is the town meeting. Um, Caroline will be there anyways. Um,
so that's when we would be presenting, I think. I think it I I should confirm that. >> That's May 6th. >> May 6th. It's Wednesday. >> Wednesday. >> Like coming up. >> It's coming up. Yeah. So, we only have two weeks. >> I don't I don't see I mean, we can talk
to the moderator, but I'm not sure that we would be on day one. >> You don't think so? Because day one, if you think about it, is you have to um like >> But we but we would have to let him like we I wouldn't for >> I almost think we should be day two.
>> Okay. Well, we need to >> is that next day? >> It should be the seventh. >> So he he has right now in his town, but the sixth does the seventh work also. Ryan, so could we >> cuz think about it. Usually you have guest speakers at the start. You've got
to induct everybody >> acknowledge people retiring. So can we can we just confirm that like I can write as well? Yeah, I can write list. >> Yeah, maybe I think that would be the best idea. And I I would suggest also too making a point about the fact that we live in the northeast and four months
out of the year those fields are untouchable especially after a winter like this you know which we have many on record where the snow doesn't melt till mid-March you know and you can't even think about it never mind that they melted but it's so wet you can't touch it so you have to wait I think it's an
important point you know we can't compare it to something down south >> we do rely a lot on outsourcing too like we we can't do everything ourselves as maintenance. So we outsource which costs money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. And I mean that would be
another data point that I think was really helpful is like 75% of the people are also willing to support more maintenance and more cost, right? So like I think the really important points are good to make. >> Yeah. You just have to keep in mind the majority of people that took this survey
have are sports people and I'm not saying Tom meeting you know Tom meeting is going to be you know a variety of people all across town and that might not be so I think the only other thing I think that we need to talk about is um
if I'm sitting in the audience I'm saying to myself Milton Academy has a lot of fields I don't understand why we can't have more of a partnership there. So, I think we have to be able to explain how Milton Academy works. You know, I think I think it was Lacrosse
said they can get on, but they can't get on until 5:00 cuz they have priority, right? So, I think we might just need to outline like we're looking at everything >> and Milton Academy shuts their fields down in the summer. >> Yeah. >> To rest. We don't do that, right? >> We don't because of the volume that we
have, unfortunately. So, I think I think >> they have that. But I think an important point of this is even though like we don't control those fields, right? And so one major problem in this town is is that even at Brooks Field, right? Like the high school controls it. So these
leagues and whoever can't go on that field all the time and we can't use the academy or point 32 kicks us off. So I think the point of the study too is to really make sure that we have more representation and more of a say on some of these fields,
>> right? I think you we could easily answer that. Um, all right. So, I don't want to I don't want to be, you know, belabor this discussion. I think we have a plan. Caroline will work on getting me back some points like for an outline stuff. I'll work on the presentation. We'll meet May 1st, Ryan, and then we'll
prepare for this. Um, May 6th or 7th. I think I think they're probably right. May 7th probably is a better uh date for it. Um, so I think that'll that'll be good. I'll just put it in my calendar now as both dates and then when you guys get back to
me. >> Yeah, we'll see what makes sense. >> Yeah, I'll get back to you soon. Um and then we can kind of go from there. >> All right. Um so, do you want to just I I guess I'm
good with like with that. I think if you want to pull up your some of the planning that you had and I'm just curious I know it was like the first stab at things and I'm just curious like what you guys feel. >> I mean my initial reaction was our
fields are laid out pretty well. Like it wasn't whoever designed >> totally haphazard. >> Yeah. Whoever designed our um fields way back when. >> It's not like there was a lot of like use, >> right?
>> Yeah. Sure. >> I like I like the flatly one. >> Yeah. >> Andrews. >> Yeah. >> I didn't like that field in the middle. I think the foul balls the foul balls from softball going to soccer. They're going to baseball. >> What do you guys feel about like the
park the parking in this one? >> I don't know that lot. I don't know. >> There isn't. It's down to Alvin at the end. >> It just a dead end. Brand >> is it? Stupid question. It is not there, right? >> Yes, it's right on the border. Quincy Mill. Okay.
>> Um, I think it would alleviate a lot of parking problems. I kind of like them. >> Richard, this is Richard Wells idea from years ago. >> I I I like that, too. I mean, you could >> Yeah. Well, >> wanted us to do this years ago >> cuz it's like right there. >> What's the guy?
>> Grass. Grass. And Gaelic football does use it, right? >> If we could potentially unlock some of the the greenery in the middle, then that would help. >> Yeah. No, I like that. And um Ryan, the um
the existing softball fields, right? >> Yep. >> And the the field to the right of that that we call it the T-ball field. >> Yep. >> They never conflict with each other because T-ball the ball doesn't get out of the infield. >> I had this being the conflict.
>> No, there's a fence there. There's a there is a fence. There's a fence on that baseball. So they they don't conflict. >> They really don't. But from spacewise, you don't have a fullsize softball field there. >> You don't like you couldn't play like heist, but it's a short left field, >> right? >> But it works. I think
>> it works. There might be a room to bump it back a little bit into the hill there. >> I definitely think we could make improvements, Ryan. But I don't know if we need to lay it out different. I think we're okay with the short left field, right? Yes. >> But I think they're even starting to
install signs. I think they put one at Kelly like >> Andrew Andrews too. >> Yeah. So I think there is room to improve that field cuz one of the worst softball fields on >> Yeah. You could bump it back a little bit into the hill to make it a little
bit longer left field. But um >> Go ahead. >> Just the idea of having like a back stop in the middle of the field. >> Yeah. It's kind of I think would look funny in the foul ball situation. So I would leave the field roughly where it is. Maybe we move it
you know, 15 feet, 20 feet, >> right? >> Um, but I think the field is >> Can you Can you put a rectangle? I'm just curious, Ryan. Can you do the same rectangle and turn it 90? >> I'm curious if it does anything for us
>> cuz that that's huge to turn that field. >> That's what I'm just wondering if it's that would be like could you fit that there? >> I think you're going to start fitting. We're gonna fight grade a little bit, Rob, but I'm not saying it's not possible
>> going up. Yeah, but we could we could always >> What's your thought process with that, Rob? >> I was just looking to see if it would fit better. It doesn't, right? Because then by the time you get But now you have to try to get your softball field somewhere in there.
>> 200 times 330. That's the official soccer field. Rob, >> there's so many variations to soccer field. The the width is about where soccer wants to play. We normally would say 210 is where soccer wants to play, but I was trying to make things fit, so we dropped it down to 200.
>> Um, soccer can play all the way down to like 160, >> but they really don't like to play at 160. 160 feels awkward for them. Um, >> the low guy one is is a little smaller, too. >> Smaller. Pretty narrow. So, I I think um
this one I think it's fine, right, Ryan? I think the feedback is let's flip like you can still keep it green but flip it back the way it was. Maybe maybe it gets a moved a little bit, right? But let's keep it. >> But if I'm not fighting the softball field, we can go to a 210 field here.
Does anyone not like that? >> Go with a what? >> A 210 instead of 200. >> So make it if I'm not fighting trying to squeeze a softball field in that's full size. >> Yeah, >> right. We go full size on this field. >> Remember we would want a fence. Does
that include a fence? the 200. >> Yeah, I don't think the 200's that bad. >> I don't think so either. >> I don't think the 200's that bad, to be honest. >> Leave it. Okay. >> My worry is is like we're really tight around these things, too. So, >> nobody notices that.
>> Yeah, I think it's fine. So, let's leave that. Flip the softball field back. Maybe it's a little bit of movement. I think the parking lot up there is good, right? That would might be like one option. Another option would be Ryan is like when we walked it would be could we
put parking down on the other side where we walked right >> and link it kind of where your dog park or whatever is. Is that a possibility? >> Yeah. >> I just think it's hard to get around there.
>> What are you saying? Get rid of the doc. >> Remember when we were walking? Um, no. I was saying like if we basically took those two the the um dark >> if we took these two and moved them there and then took the parking and put >> right that might be one potential
that might be one potential option. Ryan, I kind of like this one better because it's easier just to go off with the parking on the one side, but then this would centralize all the parking in one area of the park. There's a lot of trees there that would have to be digging down >> that would and probably a lot of
>> not going to be happy about that. >> Yeah. >> If I thought like thinking from the neighbors perspective, if I had a if I had an opportunity to have like vegetated vegetation in a dog park or a parking lot next to me, I think I take the dog park. >> Um, >> probably. Would you? I don't know.
Depends. >> Pickle ball's pretty loud. >> I don't I really don't like dog parks near playgrounds. I really I really have a problem with that. We we've we've heard a lot from different communities on like the dog park thing is getting tougher and tougher to site. You know, some some of them don't want it next to schools, some
of them don't want it next to playgrounds and then they want to have playgrounds added to all the parks. So, we're struggling to find the best spot for dog parks. >> I hate the um I like the fitness court idea here. It's all radio. >> It It basically is already a
>> Yeah, we're basically we fence this off then we don't have anything. >> Everybody's off leash. that it's a free-for-all. But I think for one thing, take the pickle ball courts out. I I don't even think we don't want to open up that can of worms. And >> would you show them at Kelly? Do you find that spot? Cuz we were we were
looking at >> You can show them there. I'm telling you, it's this it's this specific take them out. >> They play They play at Kelly a lot now. >> Yeah. And that's okay. But I would just take them out here. I think the fitness court >> could work here.
>> Yeah, fitness courts are awesome. >> Y >> I love that. So that's great. So I would leave that. I like your Oh, the other one thing I want to say because we're really heavily concentrated on sports, I think we need to mention that like the second most thing was recreation. So
getting whatever recreation pass, benches, whatever else like improvements into these plans will be really important. >> Yeah, we didn't want to add like the smaller elements like that until we kind of talked through schematically. >> Yeah, but I think fitness court, great. dog
park I could take or leave. I think Kevin's point like having it right by the playground may not be great. Would the dog park be good? Like I'm wondering Kelly like where there's just like >> Kelly tennis courts. There's like a
little triangle. I think it's off of Warav extended at dead end. There's like a little triangle. It's actually not little. It's big. There's walking to get to like the fields there, but there's still like a triangle of grass.
>> Yeah, that >> I think Kelly might be a better spot if we were going to do an actual like dog park because at Cunningham, everyone goes brings their dogs to him anyway in East Milton. >> Well, this just goes back to I I think we need to communicate to the town that the dogs are an issue. they're they're
ruining the >> and you know if more people know about it then one I think more people will do something about it >> and so you know in in my eyes that's that just needs to be said to town
meeting and to the public is you know the dogs are costing us money when you >> cuz they're ruining the fields >> right >> right so I think the way around that is to Ted's point we we fed And so for instance, the other thing I wanted to
say and I think we should move ahead on this Kevin I'm convinced that like if this field is right where it is, we should absolutely move forward with CPA funding for that field because we actually put a we actually put that on pause last year and
I think and I think we should move ahead because we don't have very much time, right? I would go put that back in. I feel comfortable now looking at this that like even even you turning that 90 is going to be a pain, but like >> Ryan, I think what we could do is put in the funding for it um for that um the
200 by 330 >> fence it >> and fence it. Yeah. Because then it's going to cost three, you know, whatever it is, >> little 4 foot fence, right? Yep. So people parents can stand at the fence or the perfect Yeah. >> All right. So are we pretty clear now with um this one? I mean, the fitness
court's pretty big. That could probably get a little bit smaller. That would probably be okay. >> Anything else we want to add here? >> I think the walking like the walking path,
>> the magenta lines are like a walking trail, right? >> No, stay down. Okay. >> The walking trail is around the outside. >> Walking trail. Yeah, >> there is there is one around the side of it.
So I think walking trail fitness great dog park I think we take out here and we try to spit it where Kelly like where Carolyn said >> and then the parking's great >> pickle ball >> Carolyn I'm sorry where where did we
think the dog park was a good idea? >> We were talking about Kelly Field so removing it from here. The issue is if you don't have a place for the dogs, >> then they're going to go. >> Then they're just Kevin, I'm curious.
The baseball field that has the fence. >> Yes. >> Do people bring their dog like will do people kind of see that as like, okay, I'm not going to bring my dogs to that >> space. We don't have that problem. It's a soccer field. >> Yeah. >> That's Yeah. >> Cuz it's wide open. >> Cuz it's wide open. Okay. >> But if that's just green, like say
that's like a green pasture. >> Exactly. I I think that's what I have to do. >> I don't love the fact Ryan like that. And you can tell me like what what is it like stone dust is that like can is there another material that you can use for dog parts?
>> Um >> synthetic turf. >> There is there is Yeah, >> there's a dog park that has wood chips. There's wood chips, but the the cleanup on wood chips can be a little more
difficult. The synthetic turf thing I don't love. Or uh >> so stone dust your preferred. >> Stone dust is the one I've had the most success with, I guess I'll say, where folks, you know, it the maintenance of it hasn't been unruly. It's still easy to clean up the messes. It's easy to
repair. um >> you don't get like the you still get some digging that happens in it, but you don't get as much digging as some of the other surfaces that we've used. It's impossible to keep grass in them. Um so yeah, it's been the one I've been most
successful with, but I it's a pretty rough environment and so none of it, you know, it's got to be sturdy and hold up and um but if you come up with something else like the rubberized surfaces won't hold up. Um,
asphalt's too hot and so stone dust has kind of been our go-to for it. But certainly, you know, again, I tried to say this last night, I don't think you're married to anything that's in here. And I don't even need to put the surfacing. I can just say dog park.
>> Dog park. Yeah. >> Or I think it should say dog area. >> Dog area. Yeah. Why don't we do that? >> Why don't we do that? Just say dog area, right? Because it could literally be grass. Like this is where we're asking you >> you to >> to have your dogs. >> That's perfect. >> Cuz we got to remember too that we're
having the spring that installed the U water fountain, the bubbler down there that has the hole in it. So >> where is that going? >> It's going right behind the baseball field. The the the one with the uh fenced in area.
>> So soon as you come off the parking lot, >> there's like parking bumpers. Yeah. >> And in the grass, we're putting it right there. >> When's that going in? >> All right. dog area next couple weeks. >> I got to have a dog area. >> Maybe we just corral them,
>> right? All right. So, yeah, let's just call it dog area. >> I don't remember and let those neighbors go crazy. >> Well, the neighbors are the ones that have the dog. You know, they're walking down there with >> I know those neighbors. All right, so I think we're good with
this one. Ryan, >> next was Flatly. >> I thought this was a really I really like the parking. I thought you made a really good So, the thing here is I think we need to figure out how much like what recreation pieces can we put in with this?
>> Well, so my question was, well, one I was like, can we move Brushell Road >> into into the woods and then we could get two full fields. Um, somehow I think that isn't gonna work. The corner lot
the corner space. Um, if I'm look looking at Yeah. Is there any way that could be a baseball cuz it's naturally curved. So if I'm looking at it the left this kind of one of the soccer field >> there was there's a back stop there's
that >> in the corner they used we I used to play softball there was >> my dad that's >> the health facility we did of the employees >> one thing that the the difference is like if you're going to play baseball on it you're not going to be able to play soccer right like because you're going
to be overlapping >> I kind of like the idea of soccer all in one in one >> well that's kind of the feedback we got from the groups as well is that they were they would love to help consolidate so that like either it's soccer down here or it's rectangular sports down
here >> and baseball's all playing in one spot so that >> the coaches don't have to like jump in between or they don't have one practice that's 20 minutes to the other side of the town and then another practice that's over there. So we were without saying it yesterday I was trying to see
if we could aggregate any uses together in one spot. >> I like I like this design. I think this is >> this is a nice design. I think Jamie has a plan that she shared with me after we looked at this. There was like I think there's three 77s which you have here,
right? Because you could always divide that big field up which is why I like that >> and I like that being synthetic and then the other one being grass and then she said she could take or leave the 5, you know, like it wasn't like as big of a >> So what age kids could play on the real
small ones like eight and under? >> Yeah. But they can play anywhere really town. So like is the is it better to use that space for recreation and not take up all >> right I like the playground. That's what I liked in Jamie's too that they had that. >> You could put a play
>> cuz I remember sitting up there with the young ones. >> You might be able to do both. >> Great. It would be great to have. >> You might be able to do all four. You know, you might be able to get a play. So, >> I think there's room for everything to show the natural turf fields and show I know we want to expand some stuff, Rob, and get more pathways and walking trails here,
>> but I think you can get a playground in here and you can get the fields in here that we have. So, you're not showing a lot, >> Brian. There's already a walking path around that. >> Yeah. I mean, it's not great, but it's a it's already there. >> Yeah, it No, it's it's paved.
>> Is it paved? Yeah, it's I used to walk. >> You can see it along the outside, Rob. It comes all the way through here. Yeah. Um, we need to beautify it, Ryan. >> Yeah. No, totally. We We'll dress this up. I just want to make sure I don't want to go too far and make them pretty
if folks are like, "Oh my god, I don't want to spend all this money on Flatly or Oh, the turf is a non >> I think honestly this is our best opportunity. >> This is the place." And this one doesn't it's not near and dear to people's heartstrings. There's not neighbors
neighbors. This this is the one that people would say do what you want with. Not >> I hope you never know. All it takes is all it takes is one. >> Of course, course there's going to be probably some opposition, but this is the one that you know it's not like a neighborhood park that people really go
to anyways. Um I think the and the parking here was much better. I thought that the your solution um because it also adds greenery islands and stuff into it which is nice. I do think the point of like if
we can make a entrance off of the Neponza Valley because right now it's hard. You just kind of come in and out and when people are coming in and out it's really hard to get out of there. >> An entrance off Nepona Valley or off of Brushville Road cuz the entrance is off Nepona Valley. >> There's only one.
>> We're talking about doing another one. >> That's a state. I wonder if the state would help us with that. >> Yeah, I know. >> If we did something Valley Parkway. Yeah. You'd want a curb cut down >> a curb cut down on the far end far end. Yeah. >> State might help us with that.
>> Where I'm drawing it. Correct, Rob? >> Exactly. >> Yeah. Right there. Exactly. So then you can come in and then come out. >> Yeah. >> I think it's something that we should Yeah. >> look at. >> And this is great. I mean, I think this is a really good >> Then of course, there's the issue of do
we even really own it? But that's >> Yeah, I know. Well, yeah. And if it's >> and did I mis I heard that in yesterday's meeting and maybe I misunderstood >> own it but there's conditions on the field. >> Oh you mean the whole field there but the deed >> we don't it's owned by the nursing home
but there's a deed to us for 100 years right? >> Yeah. >> How many of those 100 years have passed? >> 20 98. >> You got 80 years left. >> But you know that's probably a
discussion with them right. Yeah. >> You know, >> is there a way to have like town council look at the deeds? >> We have. And >> we have >> Yeah. And I think >> Oh, we have a new town council. Maybe they >> Yeah. Let's get upate.
>> Yeah. So, are we sure? So, that nursing home owns that land and then we just have a 100red-year lease or whatever. >> Okay. So, sounds like we need to I mean I I don't see like a negative.
It's really positive having a nice park next to this senior home, right? They would benefit from it, right? >> Nice walking path. >> Nice walking path. >> Even a playground with their grandchildren. Yeah. >> Right. So, I I think this is
>> All right. So, Ryan, I think you're good with this. I think add playgrounds, add some other amenities. It's also it's also another benefit is if you're playing soccer and you do town stuff um
you know outside of Milton you know whatever that's called >> travel easy for people to come in right here out of town. >> The hardest part is that like these extra 60 spaces would be huge huge huge because the parking over here is not great.
>> And could the if it's turf could there be lights on this field? I think we would want to. >> We're showing them. We just didn't emphasize them. So, yeah, there's there's going to be lightning here for sure if we put a turf field here. >> Yeah. Great. >> Um, out of curiosity, how come the
circulation isn't like in on the out on Brush Hill? >> I think it is now, but most people just come in and out of the >> because this is so close to what they're doing parking wise. >> Forget about Brushell Road. >> Yeah, no one goes down Brushell Road. I
guess my question and I what I figured when I was thinking about this at last night's meeting is if we made like if we made this parking kind of come in one way and out the other way, do we want to do that here so that people are more likely to use Brushill Road and get rid
of the maybe this entrance here or >> you could I mean I think the plan that Jamie had was just all straight parking and it was in one in one and out the other. >> Okay. So maybe it's consolidated somehow, but
definitely this is this is this looks good. >> Then the high school. What did you guys think of that conversation? >> Well, like if we went to synthetic Well, I think it's like if the ball drop like if we get the synthetic turf down below,
is it possible? I mean, I'm just curious what people think and I don't even know if it could happen, but could you move the turf the lower guile turf field that project to upper guile >> and you'd need 8 million more dollars?
>> They would. >> Yeah. >> You mean turf the entire middle guy? >> Well, you get more bang for your buck. You would, but >> also >> all the design work and everything that was done there all this like, you know, >> I just I'm thinking like everything
>> that neighborhood >> could you say by the way >> that was talking we first suggested when we first suggested little guy people came in and that's what they said the football coach is the one that came in and said let's just do middle >> guy but the price tag was like Kevin
said >> why is it more I think it was three times >> because it was more it looked more >> it was 2 million compared to 6 million we got the prices back >> wow what's a What's what's another 4 million announcements? >> Yeah,
>> I I totally agree to them. >> We're We're too We're too far. >> I think we're too far. >> Yeah, right. It's too late. >> That could be the hard part. Like I think I would just move that field, Brian, probably to like the center what like we
do now and just kind of leave it open like could we potentially turf it in the future, right? and just leave it open for now and let's see what happens with lower guile. My question is, do we show anything at that point? Because you wouldn't you wouldn't leave like the baseball field outfield overlapping like
you wouldn't have an athlete run out of the natural turf field across the curb onto a synthetic turf field >> unless it was like really they do have facilities like that, but they're really kind of specialized. And so I don't think you end up showing a synthetic turf field there at all if your
preference isn't to either one eliminate the 90 foot diamond or two turf the whole thing. And so you know >> or so I mean that would be one question. It's like do we put it in and say hey that's an option because we've heard it a million times to like turf this whole
thing and you just say it's a six million probably now it's 8 million or something. >> Yeah. just give it a number and then if the community ever wanted to come back to it, hey, like there's a quick layout. Here's >> that's a plus one softball plus 190 plus.
>> I know there's opportunity like I know folks said it last night too um to make for instance the seating all the all the terracing and everything just naturally in the landscape. I know Brian Melany's talked about it a bunch and I think he's like trying to like push that forward.
That would be something I think Ryan that like you guys could actually provide like a design for like it is a really nice um opportunity. >> We actually have some examples of that that we could throw on the plan so you can see what that looks like into the hillside. >> I think so many parents and stuff go and
watch there. There's like there's just like a bench, but most people are just back their car up and watch from the >> it's not ideal. The field at Gio is nice field. The fence looks great, but the viewing is >> tough. If you're standing in the parking lot,
>> it it's tough. Yeah. Something some sort of seating I agree would be >> wasted space that >> it's wasted space that hill. Yeah. >> And and then I think Ryan, just so you know, too, I think one the one good project is the the fact that we we added
steps down there between that long ramp that comes down for a CPA project and we're doing a um batting cage that's going to happen in August. But so that will help like some of the accessibility. But right now there's this really steep hill. Many people fall
down that hill. That's something that we should also like look at whether like does that become a staircase or something because it is dangerous. Or do we have to like >> close it off or whatever? I think that's something that we you know these are small improvements but I think they they
would help. you just like move this over a little bit to give yourself a little bit more if if you ended up turfing the whole thing. My question is do you buy yourself some some more hillside here to kind of soften that and make you know a decent path back here?
>> It's going to be hard now that that we just spent $100,000 on banning cage. >> So I don't want to move it. But there is I I think there's enough Ryan um I think there's enough buffer there. Like I think you can still put seating and stuff. >> Yeah.
>> Around there. >> Yeah. >> I I would say if you're going to spend $8 million on a on a field, the $100,000 dugout is not going to drive that design. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. So like if we're going to rework this in a manner that >> we're going to make it I would recommend
we make it in a way that really really works. And you know that hill to your point is extremely steep and finding seating that can work on some of that hill is going to be tough >> just because of its steepness. Now there's other parts of it I think we can use >> but um I don't want to like
>> you know we can't have someone fall down a series of steps either. >> Yeah, understood. >> Anyway, so >> I think we kind of leave this alone a little bit other than the seating. The only other thing I would say is do you want to talk about the bottom lefthand
corner there? Those two acres where the school project, but there is no >> I don't even want to go like >> I I mean the biggest thing is is that at the end of the day, like I said last night on our phone call, like what what got swapped wasn't a wasn't a fair trade
swap in my opinion. And I think to their point is we got to come back and say listen if you guys want natural grass field we really need to look at we had 5 acres that was right here. What are we getting for that? What it's like let's say we get a new school down the road. What what is getting what's getting
replaced there? It's anything. So it's just a I think it's just a point on our as as we go through this. >> So I just want to make sure I'm clear on this middle Godfield. The preference is to not show uh synthetic turf here. It's
just to show adding some seating and some minor improvements here. >> I I mean I think we either it's either we do it all or nothing is kind of what I'm hearing. >> And you don't think giving the options? >> Yeah, I think we should give the option. >> You know,
>> you know, one is we leave it alone. >> You know, again, it's it's sensitive. And so I think if we show every field having a turf, it every park having a turf, it's not going to go well. >> I don't think so either. >> But um I mean even if we can just say and I don't know this answer, but like
this field is used the most because it's the high school plus youth sports plus adult leagues. And so this is where we have a ton of wear and tear. So again, when we're looking at trying to solve issues, >> yeah,
>> a turf field would make sense here. >> We tie in with the school project like where it was an unfair spot. Maybe some of the funding could help fund a turf field there that would be multi-use for the school's benefit and ours. >> Yeah, that's true, too.
>> I don't like the idea of just ch you got to do the whole thing. And >> yeah, I think you have to do the whole thing. Like either all or nothing. >> I've always thought If we get the rectangle at Andrews, I know it's all conceptual, but maybe with CPC. And then again, conceptual at Flatly, we did the four rectangle
fields. I know they're not all visual size. I always thought the middle guy should be four diamonds. That's what I think. Middle guy. That's what >> or 60 foots. >> Maybe you leave 190, but it just be a
great place to turn. That's what I when I vision. I think definitely you have if you're I think so. >> I think you're going to be able to get three or maybe >> you'd have to get rid of 190 is a thing, right?
>> You'd have to do just like thinking length foul line lengthwise. >> Because you could do a tournament or something if you had three fields there and not do that. >> Yeah. Only I would only do that if you if Andrews happened and flattly happened. >> Yeah. >> Because then soccer would be
>> happy. Um, but if you can't fit the camp, but that's how I I always >> Yeah, I think it's worth looking at, Ryan, if if it's possible to >> 100%. We're going to just throw a couple of fields on here as an option and shoot
it over to you guys as like, hey, it doesn't fit or >> Yeah. Great. >> And then on this drawing, so up by the school, there's like a little triangle. You can't see it right now because um there's text over it. Can you zoom in a
little bit? Sure. >> Can that is my spot that I I'm speaking. >> He's like, I'm taking that part. >> That's the spot I always thought should be the fitness court. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because high school could use it.
>> Yeah. >> Right there. The fitness >> it's it's wasted space. >> It's wasted space. Neighborhood could use it. It's It's good. Listen, I don't hate it at Andrews either, though. Andrews is a good spot. >> I like it there, too. But I always like the fitness
thing there. >> And then um >> do you think it would get used there or do you think it would just kind of get lost >> as much as Andrew? >> Do do you think the schools would have a problem of people off the street coming to their school during the day?
>> But I was wondering. >> Yeah, I like it better. Well, maybe maybe >> What about parking issues? Like, is that school pretty much parked full? Like, could senior citizens in the afternoon come park there or in the >> Yeah, >> well, there's a parking lot right there.
I mean, there's literally parking all around there. >> I understand it's there, but is it full? >> Oh, I see. I >> during the school day, it is probably >> I mean, we could put in there, right, like a fitness court option or whatever, but we could we could just kind of dash
it. I I was going to say that gets dedicated as the dog area >> next to schools. That gets >> Okay. So, if if that can't be the dog area, can you go down to lower dial? I I think each park has to have a
dedicated dog area. >> So, there's a path that you have. There's a little bit of grass to the right of that walking path down the bottom. So, there's a bridge over there. You walk over the bridge. Uh, take your
cursor down, Ryan. Right on that left hand side. >> Yes, >> that's that's going to be dugged into Caroline for the new turf. That path is going to be moved forward to the left. >> Okay. Okay.
>> There may still be some room left. I don't know. But that part out of that path is going to be the turf. Yeah. >> Okay. Would you guys mind sending me that plan? >> Can you do that, Kevin? I'll send it to Kevin. I'll send it to you. Kevin, that
path is going to be basically gone, right? Doesn't it move? >> It's just going to be shifted. >> Yeah. And it's going to be uh lights and fenced like >> I think it's on the website, too. Under under the little guy. Awesome. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Well, we hope one day maybe in 20 30 maybe I'll be dead by the time >> I know I have you. I do think this somewhere here needs to have a dog area because this is then this is one of the biggest issues, >> right? >> Is this neighborhood, you know, they're
kind of using lower guile as their dog field. >> And that's trail there. >> Yeah, but >> I know they have there's a whole walking trail, but >> All right. Actually, on the other side
of the bridge is a small patch of grass. >> Yeah, there is there is >> um >> it's not huge. >> It's not huge, but >> I think that makes sense. Like if we could find some spot there, make it.
That's good. Kevin, what's what's at the far end of this field? conservation. >> This is all conservation area up here. >> Y >> 100%. Okay, we'll show an option of all
synthetic turf. I'll shoot you over a quick option of the what it would look like if you tried to turn it into a clover leaf or however we might be able to fit some fields in there if we were to turn it all diamond. I think we're going to have a struggle to make it fit, but we'll give it a shot. >> Ryan, if he's here on our website, park
and reckon park and wreck the the turf field, all the uh specs are on the website. >> Thank you, Kevin. >> Yep. Just I think that'd be easier for you to find. Wonder if we already have them and I've I've forgotten about it.
>> Um, okay. >> All right. >> The final one, which we didn't even talk about last night, but I wanted you guys to know that we like we played with it was Kelly. >> So, what we looked at, I know this looks like a disaster, but we tried tried
moving the tennis courts. >> You You swapped the Baboo, huh? I was just trying to see like how else could I make the fields not conflict and what else it just doesn't work. >> No, I know that where >> tennis courts down the right
>> was tennis courts here. >> We moved it. This is kind of too close to the parking lot in order to make a fit, but I think it could slide down. We also looked at the parking lot's right by the skate does freeing. All right. >> So, the baseball field stays where it
is. >> Yeah. If we moved soccer, does that or do if we move softball, does that provide anything? >> Also, swap them. >> Yeah, >> just looking at what else we could do to make I was looking to see how we could make more deconlicted field space here,
>> but it kind of doesn't >> I don't think it helps you. And after we just spent whatever we did on the dugouts, I don't want to do it. >> That's why this one didn't get put on last night. I was like, I want to talk to them that we looked at it, but I don't >> Is the play on?
I don't think you gain any um No, the playground's there, right? It's It's >> No, playground says right here. >> Yeah, right there. >> I I think it's I think you don't mess with this. I mean, I think this is pretty well laid out to be honest because it's similar. You just flipped
it and then we have the field in in between. You know, >> for me, I think you show something here about pickle ball. >> Yes, I agree. That's why that was that was the area I was sent for the dog. >> Is there a dog area? That would have been the area. >> I think of the porch right there.
>> What about a dog? What about he's got botchi ball over there? You see like >> do you want to move dog? >> What about over on that? >> Left of the red of the red house. >> We had issues with the neighbors there. >> That was 10 years ago. >> That's where
that's where we put >> it's already fenced off. >> You just need one fence going straight down. >> That's it. >> Cuz it's rest. That's a great Look at that space. It's a dead space. >> Yeah, it's if you're looking at the red house kind of to the right. >> That's the best start I can tell.
>> I tell people if they want park put a dog park there, right? Leave the pickle ball where you have it. I think that makes sense. And then we would just leave the courts like we would leave the >> the fields kind of where they're at today.
>> I would agree on leaving the fields. the pickle ball. I mean, you the pickle ball is literally right up to the houses. Like, I think pickle ball needs to be on the other side where Brook Road is. >> You're going to have You have a house right there, though.
>> Couldn't we could we move that out? >> Bear with me a second, guys. I'm going to grab >> Well, they already play >> We are They already played pickle ball right there. Right by Tom's house, >> right? >> Why can't we leave pickle ball where it is now? Well, >> I was just saying it's close to
>> it's it's like right next to the houses. So, I was thinking if you could somewhere so it's not near the houses cuz of the noise. >> Yeah. >> But just make sure you don't put lights on. Push it down, but you're hitting the
path. We We could reconfigure the path a bit, right? >> You're kind of up against it with your field. You don't have a ton of reconfiguration just to be >> Oh, I see. That's why cuz your fields right there. >> You got your dugout here and your your pathways here.
>> So, the other option, which all this looks like a mess at the moment. I'm wondering if this house is kind of right here. There's another set of tennis courts that's right here. And I'm wondering if we can attach something. I think you're going to be in the field of play. I think the
foul pole's like basically right at this Yeah. >> Or it's at this corner of the tennis court. >> Isn't there Isn't there courts now? Right there. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> We wouldn't want to get rid of those. >> We have three of them. No, the high school. >> Yeah. Exactly.
>> Exactly. >> What about what you guys were talking earlier about some of these corner parks that you guys had that maybe we didn't go look at because we didn't have a recreation. A pickle ball is not an a huge facility. Is there any other
>> pickle? Honestly, they should just put up there. >> Yeah, >> I can't put that in the report though. >> Oh, I know. I know. >> Do it, Ryan. Do it. >> Do it. >> I mean, I can. I'll just say parks commission told me to. But >> I mean, I think this would probably be
the spot. I would leave it. I think they do it now. So, I think they're the president. Let's just leave it and see. You know, we can if we can massage it a little bit away from >> of course >> houses, but like they're doing it today in the in the tennis courts, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Kevin, if they where do they play pickle ball the most? Are they playing on these four or these two? >> The three. The three. Yeah. Not those. >> Yeah. So, we painted lines there and they have temporary nets that they set up every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
morning. And uh they're quite content down there, but they would love their own dedicated pickle ball squad. They really would. Like I'm just wondering like if you know we went to Mary Sean playground like is there any opportunity there? I don't
know. So it's something small. I don't know. >> Let us look to see if we can shove them somewhere else. We're here in I think Mary Cain's kind of surrounded by residential too. All everything everything >> Oh, I have a What about the one uh Shields Park
>> where there's that unde undeveloped section next to the parking lot >> to the right there as you go? >> Yeah, to the right of the parking lot. >> Yeah. >> Doesn't that have a pretty decent buffer to it? >> A lot of trees would have to come down. >> Ryan, could you also I I think it's
worth a conversation about the St. Mary's and like talking to their leadership. I don't know. would have to be like a discussion, but I'm just curious like what could even be laid out. So, if you look at St. Mary's of the Hills and look at their grounds to the left side, I don't think they
utilize those grounds very much. And what could even what could even go there as an asset may be helpful. I know it's we wouldn't control it, but maybe it's a similar situation where you have a lease or something if you made improvements, right? St. Mary's probably benefits for
when they want to use it and then the town can use it. >> It's right across the street from where you just were. Yeah. >> Right there. So go. >> It's >> Yeah. >> Go right up >> upper right hand corner >> right there. That's it. >> That field.
>> That's it. >> It's that field. >> It's a pretty big field. Pretty big. >> Not a soccer field can fit there. >> But you could fit pickle ball. Definitely you could fit >> I think you could fit a soccer field there. 30 or >> not a fullsize soccer field.
>> 77 maybe or something. >> Yeah, it's it's got the width. It's a little short on length. I'm going to assume they don't want to lose their playground. >> 280 if you don't if you ignore the playground, but if you if the playground stays,
>> it's only 180 ft long to the sidewalk. >> Yeah, I think it's important. You know, it's just not a great field. >> All right. All right. Well, I would say that might be >> dark. >> It might be a uh >> could be an option. And then also Pierce
Middle School, too. Like that field potentially. That's something also just to take a look at. You can definitely make improvements to the field. It's not that field has a lot of issues. Remember when you were out there, Ryan Pierce Middle School, there's like some
uh you know, it's not a very flat field. Yeah, that that field. Let's look at that together because you only got there that's not as much buffer here, Kevin, as I thought on Shields Park. I thought it was wider than that when we were there. >> Okay.
>> Um Shield Park. >> What a dog park right across the street from Winston would be happy. What's that? >> How long? >> It's short both in length and in width. It's only 160 foot wide, but they're
currently are striping there, which is perfect for football. I know they're playing soccer there. They're playing youth soccer, by the way. It looks like it's striped. >> Football, too. >> Yeah. And it's 260 in length, which is 100 feet short for like a a high school football field. So, you know, yes, it's
a youth field and great youth field, but when you're talking about making a large capital investment, if you're thinking like a anything else, >> yeah, >> I it it doesn't serve as much as a community as some of the other places would. >> Okay. >> Could be four pickle balls or something
like that. Although, I don't know how PS would feel about that. >> Yeah, probably not happy. And again, the part, you know, like that that pickle ball user group is usually like mornings and day, >> right?
>> And you're out of school again. And so you're, you know, most schools struggle for >> perfect. I think that's a good spot. >> Yeah. All right. I think that's I think we probably exhausted exhausted what we think we could do. Let us take another shot and we'll What
I'd like to do, Rob, is I'd like to work on schematically getting these to look look what like we want them to look. >> Okay. >> I'd like to send it out to the group. Everyone, you know, give me the yay or nay or hey, let's let's change this or that. >> And then >> how about how about
could we um let's figure out how about the second week of May? That would give you a month. is that >> plenty of time >> for um another our next parks commissioners meeting and you know at that time too we'll have our we'll have
another new member um so that will be I'm thinking May 14th if that works >> okay >> or the 21st you know I don't know where you >> I'll be away that wait till the 21st or >> let's see the 14th so 14th 7:30 will be
our next uh parks commissioner meeting that will accept I'll let uh Mr. Novak know. >> Yeah, >> Rob, what about >> you know, one of the things that's we we owe you for the proposal is a rendering of one of these facilities. In my mind,
it's it's flatly >> because that's going to be the biggest change that the community is going to want to consider. >> I don't think I don't think we need anything for the >> Yeah, I don't think we need it for town meeting. Yeah, I think we should
I would be fine throwing like if you make new concepts, right, and we just showed them and they were small that we just had work up and we put it there and just said that, you know, we're working on concepts. That's fine. Um, but I think like renderings and whatever, I
think we would want to see them on the 14th or whatever. >> Okay. >> How about like how about for the 14th we review like the next round and renderings and whatever, >> right? I don't think any concepts should be shown at time even. No, >> you're going to open up a
>> Are you going to open up a can of worms and nothing is this isn't even this is literally just for about people are going to think >> and I don't and I don't want that convers like there shouldn't be a conversation such an updated video
should be that's it. Yeah, you're right. >> We just need to stay focused on what are our issues and how do we solve them. All right. >> Yeah. >> All right. I think we're I think we got a plan of action, Ryan. I feel pretty
good about it. Um and I think we're we can put this to bed for now. I think, you know, after the 14th, it'd be great to, you know, wrap it up in a report, right? Like by, you know, by the end of May or whatever, I think would be the goal. And then
>> and then I think we do we probably want like a community meeting or whatever, right? To like present the final. >> Yeah, >> that's it. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um >> I mean at town meeting it would be nice to say, you know, >> do we >> like this is our day for our community
meetings. The only thing I would just say is I think before you put anything to the public, you kind of need to talk to >> the neighbors and see. I I don't know. I don't know how you guys feel about that.
>> I don't know. I I think we need to like look at it first, right? Yeah. This is all public meetings and whatever else like people, right? Okay. you know, >> remember it's not a final design. The
the community certainly is going to have a 100% opportunity to comment. >> I think it's going to be really important that we continue to get the the the word out, right? like listen there's a next community meeting people oh I didn't know about guess what we've had many public meetings
>> you know >> and I also earlier there was a comment about that the the survey was only by athletic folks and I would say by and large what the results show is that it was by athletic folks but the entire public was welcome to respond
>> right >> and and there was I'm sure there was a you know majority was sports but I'm sure there was plenty of people that also to respond to that word. >> So, I think we definitely need to do that public community meeting and I think for now, let's decide. I think
it'll probably be the end of May, but I don't want to like set a date yet >> till we All right. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks. >> Thanks, guys. Appreciate everybody's time. >> You Thank you. >> Um, all right. Let me blow through some
of these last agenda items. um the lower guy turf projects we know there's I think you said last night no update um I do think at some point when I have a minute I would like follow up with uh
>> well I'm just wondering should we be saying to anyone who's asking us about it encourage them to go to our state reps >> yeah I mean >> to see if you know >> I would go >> I don't know I don't know the answer to that >> I I what I would say is I don't it's
probably been a month now since I reached out to them like guess what again ask again right >> be be a pest right and just say by the way I know you said you were going to render a decision can you check in again for me by taking forever right um
>> um I know we had gotten a question from someone um >> just looking at my messages >> was a statewide election >> primary September 1st and And >> this is a good time to get on September.
>> Make it on there. >> Let's make it Let's make this happen. >> Who's going to make this happen? Like who >> I mean I mean Driscoll and Will they release like Driscoll got back at least, but like we should continue to like >> he's always open. We can just say like listen, can you please
>> push this? So, I I have no problem reaching out again because it's been like I don't know what was the last time when they responded to me was like a month and a half ago or two months ago. So, um I I'll just follow up again and then we'll
see where that goes. >> He's sponsoring one of the concerts out here this year. >> Oh, nice. >> So, he'll be here for that which would be nice. >> Uh >> this was a question about it. Has the town's legal council petitioned for the maximum 250,000
appeal bond? >> It's not applicable here. >> Okay. >> I've already looked into it. So if they if they possibly appeal again, then it could be possibly added in, but not on this round. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And so they can appeal again.
>> They can appeal to to the council. >> Yes. >> Really? >> But but but we can move ahead. But we can move ahead with the project though >> which is >> it's not going to delay the project >> that is happening in other communities too like they are moving forward. >> Yeah. We can still move forward the
project field but >> I think in Boston that's currently what's happening right with the soccer. >> Yeah. >> With the soccer but they're still >> so that makes sense. So, how are you able to move ahead even though they can appeal?
>> You can't just make the decision. >> No, no, no. Like, >> do you have a contractor ready to go? >> Contractor ready to go. >> No, you can't. Yeah, you got to put it out to bid. So, not only like let's say we get the go-ahad. It's going to take some time just to go through that process. And
let's let's all be really serious here. Do we even have the money? We're gonna have to go back and do VE after because that $2.4 million is taken so long. How far is that could have done? That's my worry. >> What do you think about that? >> Is too much more going to get done?
>> You've already used some of it for design work. >> So, cut that down automatically and >> additional meetings. >> We're going to have to cut. >> We're going to have to cut this stuff. >> It's my theory. We're going to have to cut stuff. >> We'll cross that bridge.
>> We just got to get We just got to get there. We'll find it. We'll get it done. >> Yeah, we'll get it done. Um Hey, you know what? We can also like listen, let's lean back on some of these sports leagues. Like guess what? They Jamie Jamie said they have so much money their
treasure is like we need to spend money. Okay. Well, if you need to spend money, >> right? >> So, let's lean on some of the sports groups in town to like raise money. >> Um, I do what I do think is important, number six, CPC projects. I think we
should move ahead. If if you guys have an agreement now with the way that soccer field is at Andrews and and it's there, I think we should move ahead with that again. Put it back in. Put it in in in it. And then what I would say is I don't really know what else is out
there, but it's open till May 29th. If there's other things, what I would say is we should at least write to the sports leagues to say, "Listen, the CPC deadline is May 29th." as a reminder, if you if you want if you guys are looking for capital improvements, come before
the parks commissioners to ask, I think would be helpful. >> How much money are we going to ask for? >> So, Andrew, >> so the price tag we came up with last year was three. So, I think we were going to ask CPC for two and capital for
one >> for a field. >> For the field of dandruff, >> new field include fencing. >> Includes fencing. >> Venice. and more. >> So, I think we should do that again. >> Yeah. We know we're going to keep the field there. >> Yeah. Well, now I I think so. Like after seeing that and like, you know, that's
why I want them to turn it, but it makes sense. So, like, okay, let's go ahead and do it. >> I do think >> what I I'll talk to Jamie about it is like, yes, soccer willing to put investment in, but we also need to see if other if other teams are going to use that field. Maybe there's a chance to
get them stakeholders to see if we can get some money out of us. You know, whoever's using it, you know, they're going to have to know that field's going to have to wrestle. >> You get three different sports playing on it. >> It's going to rest in the summer. Tony going to be another >> But it'll be complete like a 300,000
field though. It'll be >> You have to It's still matter. It's still going to have to have it rest. It can't >> the f on using that field. Yeah. What's Can you just remind me Kevin what the agreement is there? >> So they pay Yeah. >> They do pay they use it in the fall
>> for soccer and they use it >> so Monday through Friday they use it for 2 hours. >> Okay. >> 3 to 5. >> Yeah. >> And this has been going on for way before my time. >> Yeah. >> Um they don't have a field as you well know >> right. >> So um Bonnie can you do me a favor and
email the sports groups to let them know that May it's May 29th would be the deadline for the CBC. And then what I would suggest is if any like the the wording would be like if you want to make any capital improvements, come before the parks commissioners and the
date would be May 14th or whatever, right? 14th. >> Yeah. To get our support >> to come to get our support. >> So when you say email uh sports groups, I usually lean on Kevin. Um yeah, because he usually is the one that
and girls lacrosse is on that list. field talk. He doesn't use that field, right? >> The um the Andrew. >> Oh, yeah. Right. >> But >> I think they just should be on the left. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Um >> Yeah.
>> And also Fon already said, I don't know how much money they said they would kick in obviously because they use the field. They would find some money. >> Yeah. >> They don't have a lot, but they said they would. >> Yeah. I think we might need to
look at revisit the font bond. I mean, if we're lacking field space, >> but they are too. They don't have anything, >> right? But >> yeah, this is where >> I would hate to shut a program down completely.
>> No, no, no. Not shut anything down, but you know, is is Cunningham Park an option for them? Is Milton Academy an option for them? >> They use Cunningham soft, >> right? That's what I'm just wondering is >> there's no multi there's no multi-purpose fields whatsoever. So
>> yeah. >> No, I know I know what you're saying to keep >> or put the pressure like or guess what? If you're using these fields, you're going to have to put some investment in these. >> Is there any land at front at all? But >> I thought they talked about doing a field there. >> Not for a field, but pickable. Is there
anything there? Any room at all? >> The front lawn. >> They have that front lawn, but >> that's it. the problem with all those schools. I don't think they're making it and probably >> No, I know. I know. And I'm not I'm not I just think when our own programs That's one of our
issues. >> I agree with him. >> You know, can we I'm not saying cut them, but just can we find some other solutions? >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh, manager's report.
>> Okay. >> Uh, all right. Real quick. So, we're starting our April vacation softball clinic. Uh, Wednesday during the vacation. >> Who's doing that? >> Uh, Charlie Dra. So, he's the varsity coach at the high school.
Um, we start our junior tennis, I think, April 29th. These are all in April. We start our spring basketball, youth indoor basketball, end of April. Um, Bonnie, you've got the golf day, right? >> Junior golf next week. Yeah, April vacation junior golf up at 5:00. Um, the
adult golf went out yesterday, the registration >> and then the summer programs. We were we hammered it for the summer program at Cunningham. We went online >> at 7 and it was sold out >> by 7:15 720
>> with my sister. It was literally like >> 710 it went to >> this first year like it went usually in at least a day. >> Jeez. >> What do you cap 200? That's all kind of him a lot. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's all it's in hand. >> And that's still a lot. >> And how many people would you say is on
are on the wait list? Oh, there was 30 and we pulled how many off? >> So, there was some movement there. We were able to best >> and then it's back up to 30 because people are joining people about registration.
>> Who knows why? It's a good deal. Go down the other camp. It's so the draw. >> That's that's the biggest thing. just make it more expensive and then and then just a lot less. >> You dress it as a clown. They love it when you're dress
the junior wild bat and some of the sports clinic, you know, did well that was a while before. That's awesome. It's great for the mothers just to scrub their kids off, go back and >> not a bad problem to have. >> Yeah. These programs don't have as quick
as they do, but then it goes back to >> we don't have the capacity as a whole. >> Yeah. >> But we'll do the best we can. So, the summer program that's ready to go off all the sports clinics. >> That's what Karen is going to do next. She's gonna she's going to expand all
the the the youth camps in town. >> Expand. >> Yeah. >> Right. Um Sure. >> So, I think that's about it for me with that. >> All right. I do have one thing on the manager's report. Um, so we have benches down at Turners that we did with the CPC
project and I had to start um Pete Jackson who worked for this town way project before I was around and I've worked closely with Pete on numerous I really think it'd be a great idea to
dedicate a bench to Pete. He's retired, just retired from his business. >> Landscape architect. He's given us >> so much of his free time projects. I think it would be a nice gesture if he loves he loves turn. >> I love that.
>> He's >> and it's the bench is already there. We just got to get a plaque with a slat >> and um that's not a big deal. But I think >> I think that's a better idea. uh a nice gesture that to give to give back and he's still around and he can enjoy it.
>> Yeah. >> Um do you want to make a motion to do it and just get it done? >> So I make a motion that we had a plan for Pete Jackson for one of the benches at Paris Bond. >> Yes. Uh second.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. So, all right. Thank you for being >> who's going to find a spot for my statue. >> I'm not going on the bench. >> It's already been commissioned. Don't worry. >> You're dressed as a clown.
>> Right. Right. Thanks. >> Um, other than that, the spring actually the weather hasn't been too too bad. The >> fields are looking good. you know, the little rain kind of helped because everything so um >> Oh, so >> but um so I have two two quick updates.
Um >> Guile Road softball and baseball are starting Wednesday. It's a two-day project. Um Kelly is starting Friday and the opening day is Saturday. >> Okay. So, >> so he said I talked to the guy yesterday
and I got to talk to him again next week. He said he can do Kelly in one day. >> Is he doing this? Is he even doing the stone stone? >> And I said, "Do not do it if you can't do it in one day." >> Okay. >> Do it Monday cuz I want opening day to
happen that they can use Kelly. But he said >> he can do Kelly in one day. >> Awesome. >> We'll see. If not, we'll wait till Monday. They'll still have the field. >> So I I'm I'll get the band-aids ready for when my daughter's still >> blinding pads. >> I know, right?
>> Yeah. not going to be the one downside, but >> but when it rains and 15 minutes in the afternoon, hope you can still play on it. Otherwise, it was >> You know what? You try it out for >> Yeah. 5 minutes something. You know,
>> we can blame for that. It's real bad. >> It wasn't my idea. I know. I know. >> When it rain for 10 minutes in the afternoon, then the be You're gonna be kidding me. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And how many kids are sliding? That's the point. I think it's more that like
Milton High JV plays there. I think those girls. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know if the old girls play Keller. He's that young. >> They'll just talk. They'll get tougher. Yeah. Sliding pants, whatever. >> No, they do. >> Okay. >> 14. >> All right. I think that's it for me. >> All right. Great.
>> We are running a with the New Police Department Home Alone uh next week. I don't know if that's sold out like that, too. And last night the uh fishing clinic also went live live that we do with mass conservation and um the mass fisheries and the Milton Police Department.
>> That's all Bonnie is all >> good job Bonnie. >> All right. Um Ted, do you want to be winners of uh adjourning? >> Thank you all. Thank you for putting up with me for the last eight years, I
guess. Thank you for >> a year eight and a half to eight and a half >> coming in signing those vouchers. I might call you one more time next week. >> Almost around like everyone said >> you'll be sitting back here. >> Oh, thank you. >> Appreciate it.
>> I didn't I didn't record it in my calendar the next meeting. >> Oh, there you go. >> You could still come up to I know. All right, that's good. Okay, we're turn.