Good evening everybody and welcome to the April 7th meeting of the Milton Select Board. Uh please stand if you're able. Join me in saying the P pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Uh coming up next is public comment. Uh by rules for the select board, we allow three minutes for
individual speakers and we have allocated a total of 21 minutes. Um, if you are joining us online, close my Zoom window first. >> Okay, great. So, we have somebody online. Do we have anybody in here in person for citizen speak?
Okay. Uh, so, uh, can we can we go ahead and promote? Um, great. You're a step ahead of me. Uh, Mr. Corey, can you hear us? Okay, >> I can. >> Great. Um, you have three minutes. I will give you a quick warning when you're at two and a half minutes.
>> Okay, great. Thank you so much. I timed it. I'm about two and a half. >> All right. >> Dear Select Board members, my name is John Corey, as you saw from the screen. I grew up here in Milton and currently have a home on Upper Canton Avenue. For the past eight years, I've consistently
advocated for trafficcoming measures in our town and have presented to both the select board and the traffic commission, always emphasizing the urgent need to address the risks posed by high-speed cross town cut through traffic. This
traffic not only threatens our town's identity and neighborhoods, but also disrupts the flow of traffic on our local roads. In response to these concerns, I've actively participated in traffic commission meetings and advocated specifically for the traffic
uh road diet on Randolph Avenue. In this example, while traffic queuing is increased during peak hours, no one can argue the benefit to safety in the town on this corridor filled with residents and our local businesses. However, we
must acknowledge as we do from time to time that traffic caling measures can sometimes have unintended consequences. For instance, since the road diet Canton Avenue is out and un undoubtedly experience an increase in traffic,
particularly this fastm moving cut through traffic. This has posed a safety issue in my neighborhood and has led to neighborhood concerns due to our load's local inability to handle such traffic volumes. We must continue these efforts
all over town to have traffic coming. Given these challenges, I kindly request that the select board approve the traffic calming master plan which will be presented by Marina Darwin and Sky a little bit later in the meeting. On a personal note, we have recently learned
that Marina's departure from the town uh will be I think at the end of this month or in May. And I want to express my gratitude for her exceptional collaboration in her pivotal role implementing traffic calming in our town. Her dedication to listening to
residents in translating their concerns into action has been truly commendable. I'm optimistic about the future of Milton's roads under our new leadership, new town engineers leadership, and look forward to continuing efforts to restore order and safety on our streets. So,
I'll just make a final plug. I hope the select board will cons um consider the item carefully and approve the um traffic uh measure. I think it's item number seven. >> Thank you, Mr. Corey. Appreciate it.
>> Yes. Thank you. Um, if there's anyone else online, it doesn't look like there is, uh, or in person, this is your final chance. Going once, going twice. Moving on. Um, I would, uh, love to invite, uh, Miss
Linda Lee Sheridan to join us to talk about the Milton Music Fest and the 250th anniversary, June 20th and 21st. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Thank you so much for having me. Um, first of all, how many of you have been to Film Music Fest before?
So, thank you. Um, it is such a great event. I was going to give you start off by giving you a little bit of history of how this event came to be. Back in 2012, we had the 350th celebration of Milton, which I
was the proud chair of that committee. And one of our events for that year was a parade that ran through the whole town and then ended up at Milton High School with a huge uh event of concerts and then finished off with fireworks. And people thought it was such a great event
that they wanted to do it again. So a few of us that were on the committee continued that work and um moved it to Hutchinson Field where it's been for the past 12 years. And this is now our 14th year of having Milton Music
Fest as it is. It is Milton's biggest community event. We figure that over the years over a hundred performers. We've had 100 performances from bands and local artists. We've annually been recognized as the best Milton event. We
average between three and 4,000 people on a weekend. And so we figure the total could be upwards of 60,000 people who will participate in Milton Musicfest over the past 14 years. It's so wonderful to see generations of
families that keep coming back and neighborhoods that come and celebrate together. It's kind of that adage if you build that they will come and so happy to have uh this great event for Milton. But this year we're going to make it special for two reasons. First because
as you said it is the 250th birthday of our nation and secondly because it's going to be our final year of music fest. The festivities will be held from 4 to 10 on both days which is a change. It's
going to be on Saturday June 20th and Sunday June 21st will be Celtic Sunday this year which actually happens to be Father's Day. So, um the events will usually Celtic Sunday is during the day. This year we're moving it to the afternoon uh starting in the afternoon
at four o'clock and um the fireworks will be going off at 9:45 both nights, Saturday and Sunday. So, with the addition of a second night of fireworks, I guess you could say we're going out with a bang.
Um, just to recap what people can um, expect to find on Saturday and Sunday, both days. There'll be a giant sandbox that's now in honor in memory of our dear friend Jared Cwley. We have two water slides, a giant one for the brave
of heart and then a smaller one for the kiddos and cornhole and food and beverages to purchase. Novara is our partner in this and they've been exceptional as well as other food vendors that come in. Additionally, on Saturday we'll have face painting,
characters, axe throwing, and on Sunday we'll have a very special tradent with traditional Irish music in a smaller setting. As I said, 9:45 each night the fireworks will go off. Our mission has really
always been to make this event 100% free for the community so that everyone can enjoy it. And this event would not have been possible without the Copeland Family Foundation and their enormous generosity over the years as well as the local businesses and institutions who
have supported us too. I need to give a shout out to our small but mighty group that pulls off this event every year. Kathy Fagan, Glenn Pavlovichek, Richard Wells, Gary Kelly, and Amanda K. Luring, and past members
Brian Kelly and Eric Miller. So, if people want to help, we can always use help. We clean up on Saturday and Sunday after the fireworks and on Monday morning as we pack up everything. But we really hope that uh this will be a
special event for um the community as it's our last and we look forward to welcoming everyone. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any questions? Questions or comments from the members? I'm looking to you, Mr. Wells.
>> So, first off, I also want to give a shout out to um Mr. Driscoll who took that hay field of 20 years or 15 years ago that in my life I had never seen anything on and turned it into very usable field which has
truly benefited the trustees who are the owners of that field. Um it's it's I said this to Linda Lee. You've been the voice behind this since the day that the town decided to have a 350th anniversary and you've been
person who driven this ship the entire time. I'm just mouthpiece behind it. And I I want to give a shout out to all the town departments who really kick in like they are parks, DPW, fire, police, cemetery. I don't think there's any town department that has not played a role in
this event. And it's it's clearly is the movie field of dreams. If you build it, they will come every single year. And the biggest thing is it's free. No one has ever had to pay a nickel to go to this event. It's the largest free event I've ever seen in my life. And so, um,
the only last show is on Sunday. So, one of the performers who plays in a band, the Fenian Sons, Billy Kerry, uh, firefighter on Rescue Tube, died of work rellated cancer just last month. He actually collapsed on the stage four
years ago while formerly thought he had fainted and he was diagnosed with stage four brain and lung cancer. He was two months shy of being cancer free for 40 years and died last month. So we have dedicated Sunday to him and we're going
to as a surprise have a huge fire truck parade goes by at some point in the afternoon for all the kids and everything. So it'll be um as Winter Lee says bang the only thing we need is weather. That's the only thing is weather. Whether is as anyone who knows
at any type of festival weather is your money. My friend Ron Tin always says sound is your money but weather is your money. So thank you to you for all you've done. I know that you were the one person on the committee who when we started discuss last year that
perhaps we do just one more year. I mean it's gone way longer than I ever thought and way bigger than I ever thought that you've been the one person who's made sure that this happens. So the credit goes to you. >> That's great. Other questions or comments from members?
>> No questions, but just thank you to you, Linda, for leading this and for the rest of the committee who've been so dedicated. It is a great event. Um, you know, I've taken the kids to it. Um, several times and um, you know, these
things don't just happen. They It's the work of a lot of people um in These large events are complicated to put together. So, thank you for all the work from like the fundraising and the project planning and the site plans
and there's probably a whole host of minutia and headaches that arise unanticipated every time that you very gracefully handle. So, thank you. >> She's good at that. She's good at that. >> Yeah, I can imagine >> she's good at that.
>> We're a welloiled machine. We really are. Christmas might not be, but you are. >> So, thank you for the time and I hope to see you there. >> Yeah. I do have one question for you. >> Sure. I'm sorry. Sorry. >> I I also just want to add my own personal thanks. 2012 is actually the
year that I moved to Milton and it's hard to believe that's 14 years ago now. Um, and uh, when the that parade that I sort of arrived, you know, knowing a little bit about the town and the history and everything, but within I think I moved in in March and uh, it was
like all of a sudden there was all this amazing stuff happening. So, I was like, "This is a really special place." >> We did that parade just for you coming. >> Yeah, I told my kids that. >> It's a beautiful day. Everybody got sunburned. >> Yeah. So, Lindley, you mentioned if
people want to volunteer, um, you have spots available. What's a good way for people to get in touch, uh, to sort of put their hand up and volunteer? >> Um, I'll just give my email if people want to email me. It's llb sheridan milgmail.com.
Um, llbsheridangmail.com. So folks can email there and if that doesn't work I'll ask them to contact us in the select board and we can put them in touch. >> So we're again with gratitude. Thank you very much.
>> I just want to say it's a first class organization you're in with a lot of very nice people. Thank you very much. >> Very first class. From what I hear it's really too late for me to show up. >> If it was early in the morning I'd be
there. It's too late, huh? >> Cut the grass. >> No, it's very good. >> Well, you you've helped. >> No, it's not. It's just >> as long as everybody enjoyed it and everybody does >> and it's great great thing for the town of Milton. Sorry to see it end.
>> Yeah, we are too. But >> all good things are coming. >> But thank you. >> Someone will maybe find something else to do. >> I'm sure this town has something of it. >> I hope so. It's a lot of work. >> Thank you again. >> Thank you very much.
Uh so uh item number five without >> Mr. Thank you. >> You're very very welcome. Uh item number five uh discussion approval of veteran site to honor members of the coil family to be placed on Brayburn Road. >> Kathleen Demano is here from the neighborhood to speak about this
request. >> This is big. >> This is good evening. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you for having me. Um good evening. My name is Kathleen Jamano and I live at two Brayburn Road. Edimeary Coyle were my neighbors for almost 30
years. Edary bought their house at 7 Brayburn Road in 1976 and lived there until last summer when they both passed away within weeks of each other. Mary and Ed were amazing neighbors and friends. They loved their home in the
Braver and Hillrest neighborhood. They were always mentoring and following the careers of many of the children they watched grow up in their neighborhood. They were always there with a friendly hello and a helping hand. They were very humble and very proud of their military service. They were always
giving back and helping others and they never looked for any recognition. A little history on both of them. Ed was an electrical aviation contractor with the United States government. He was a retired colonel with the United
States Marine Corpse. Ed served his country with distinction, including as the United States Marine Corpse representative on the Department of Defense Inspector General Te. Ed served two tours of duty in Vietnam and
was also a Purple Heart recipient. Mary was a dedicated nurse and a decorated officer. She served as a flight nurse examiner at Westover and was a registered nurse at the Carney Hospital. She was a retired colonel of the United States Air Force. Hari was
honored with numerous military decorations, including the combat readiness medal with three oak leaf clusters and the outstanding unit award with three oak leaf clusters and both the air force commenation and meritous
service medals. I remember during COVID Mary saying to me that her RN license was still active and when she was ready to jump in if they needed her. I loved our chats and times we spent together. I missed them dearly but know they are
together smiling down watching over their beloved neighbors in neighborhood. Tamir and Ed were not just neighbors. We were their family and they were ours. Thank you for allowing me to speak on behalf of Edinary Coyle and for your consideration of the veteran side to
honor. >> Thank you, Mr. Milano. Do you want to add anything from a process perspective on this before we go to >> I only shared earlier today um a memo from Alex Ortiz from the office of veteran services for the town that um
talks about the service as well and described the request um as well. I think what we've been thinking internally is um you know smaller signpost that would go on a street sign in that area. Um we obviously have the hometown heroes program but those are
more on main streets not necessarily a side street um near where somebody lives. So I think procedurally this is the first time in a while a request like this has come up. We do have a gold star killed an action um dedication on Norman Road um that is that was put in probably
four or five years ago maybe ago. It was actually on like Veterans Day we did it. >> So I envision something similar. So a sign post sign goes on top of a street sign um if the board is is interested and supportive. And then um I do think we would probably expect some additional
requests to come in and we can um work with the veteran services office to to come up with a policy program around that going forward. Mr. Wells, >> she should probably once we do that, once we get the sign, we should probably select a dedication day. I've been to a
lot of these. I think you definitely >> Yes. No, I I would love that to have a dedication day. Absolutely. >> So, Mr. Ch, I'll make a motion um that we authorize a sign to be erected in honor of members of the Coyle family on
Braburn. Is there a specific place on Braayurn Road? Their house is right in the corner of Brayburn and Hillresturn and Hill. I'm just going to say it. >> Yeah, right there. Brayburn, but their house is right in the corner. So, >> if we could right there. >> Okay. >> Second.
>> Okay. Motion's been made and seconded. Uh, are we going to have any discussion or questions or comments from members before we vote? >> Okay. Um, we've got Mr. Dailyaly online, so we'll go first to him. Uh, and then we'll uh go around the room. Mr.
Dailyaly. Yes, >> Mr. >> Bailey. Yes, Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes, >> Mr. Wells. >> Yes, >> Miss Hagerty. >> Yes, >> and myself. Yes. So, we're very happy to hear that. Please be in touch with us to let us know when uh a good time will be. I know Alex will be working on this as
well. Um, but thank you for thinking of them and for your kindness and dedication. >> Thank you very much. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. my coke zero. >> Um so now we are going to have a discussion update approval proposal for
a traffic calming master plan and policy with tool design. Um so I invite folks to come up to the front here. >> Thank you. >> Expect to be joined by the engineering folks momentarily. Um means our sky is
here. Um so just as way Oh, that's so >> yes, no problem. Thank you. >> Darwin, if you want to pull up the chair as well. >> It's already over. We voted no.
>> Ouch. So for the board's introduction, um this is Darwin Sios who joined us in January as a engineer. Right. I have um jumped right in. So I'm grateful for that. And um I guess Marina, I'll turn it over to you just to introduce um the
trafficcoming um proposal with tool and let them we'll turn it over to them for a presentation. And I'll just say kind of really in terms of big picture background that as I've been in Milton and we've addressed we've done some small traffic coming measures um on a
more limited kind of case by case basis. I think our our preference would be to take a big step back and look at the whole town do some community engagement come up with a real game plan um for implementation and have a real toolkit that DW can use moving forward
anytime we touch a road. Um, so that's the broad strokes in terms of my perspective. Marina, I'll turn it over to you then let um to do a a presentation. >> So, thank you. My name is Marina Fernandez, a DPW director u Darwin town engineer. Thanks for having us and uh
thank you Tulle for coming in. Uh they will speak more uh deeply into what our plan and our proposal is. But just to reiterate what you said, Nick, uh with the amount of time I've been here uh heading the traffic commission for about
a year and a half and it became quite apparent in the beginning that we were just uh dealing with folks as they came and approached us and uh instead of having well there is a proactive approach uh but uh having that equitable
and a way to uh look at every street, understand what our um lowhanging fruit, you know, would be, what roles we want to tackle first, what is the funding mechanism, understanding what is
acceptable, what is not acceptable, meaning what folks are willing to, you know, uh try it out and and have almost like a a roadmap approach. uh would be the the best feasible way in order for us to have these traffic commission
meetings and and really have you know uh solutions out of the issues that are being brought to the table and solutions that will work for every street. The way that we deal with water manes and you will speak we'll speak about it in a few
minutes. uh the way that we approach uh uh pavement. It's how do we best uh improve the town as a whole rather than just one issue otherwise we'll get fixated by it and never get to the the whole holistic approach and that's what
tool came to the table they this is a very uh tailored uh to the town had several meetings they've met with the planning board they've met with uh uh this uh Nick myself uh the engineering team uh and really looked at some of the
things that we're doing. And this is the proposal. It has been reviewed by our team. It has been reviewed with the traffic commission. And now they'll present it to you. Um, and hopefully you can have u a say in it, too. So, please
uh and this is Erica and Katrina. I just want to make sure we do have some slides. I want to make sure those are getting queued up while I do my little intro spiel. Um, I know Katrina's going to need those slides for her part of this presentation. Thanks. Uh, thanks, Marina. Thank you members of the select board for having us this evening. I'm
really excited to to get to this point in the process. I know um we've been working with uh Marina and her colleagues quite a bit over the last few months kind of making sure that this is really thoughtful and really as she mentioned um catered to the town of Milton. Um so I'm going to tell you a little bit more about tool design and a
little bit more about myself and Katrina just to kind of um get you oriented of who we are and and why we think we're a great fit for this project. But I do want to um you know also allow uh Katrina a good amount of time to share a little bit more about the scope of work and have time for discussion with you all. Um so just the next slide please.
Um so my name is Erica Aguidaboni. I'm a professional engineer with the state of Massachusetts. I've been working in traffic engineering for over 20 years now. Have with me tonight Katrina Meyer certified planner with over a decade of local experience. Um we work together in
um tools Boston office. Um, and we think we're a really good pair for this because we have a unique blend of planning and and traffic engineering experience to bring to this and we're really uh grounded in safety design work is a big part of what uh we do. Next slide. Um, so just real quick, tool
design. Uh, we're a bit unique in the industry. We are a missiondriven firm. Um, that is not something that is typical necessarily. And all the work that we do focuses on, uh, safety work. Like that's really our bread and butter. Um, so our values are really aligned with, you know, safety, equity,
providing access to the public realm in a safe way for all roadway users, including people walking, people biking, people accessing transit, and of course, uh, drivers. Um, so a big part of this is we want to make sure that we have a datadriven approach to this and that when you're giving a roadmap um to the
town to kind of go forward with traffic calming that we are ensuring that we're being equitable um and really being again based in in safety based in data and not sort of reactionary to the loudest voices. One more slide then I'm gonna hand it over. Um just real quick
we're over 300 uh engineers, planners, landscape architects, urban designers. We So that's a really interesting full blend that we'll bring to this um project. Uh we support communities throughout the country as you can see on this screen. Um and I think at that point I'm just going to hand it off to
Katrina to let her get into the the weeds on the on the Milton focus plan. >> Sounds good. Excellent. >> Thank you everybody. If you page to the next slide, this kind of summarizes a little bit what you've heard from Marina and Erica. Our goal here is to develop a
framework for addressing traffic calming needs in Milton, define when and how so that the traffic committee can use our road map to respond to requests and be proactive and then come up with a
near-term road map uh based on all of that. What does the town need to accomplish in the next few years? Um so on the next slide we've kind of just outlined like five tasks um that would be inclusive of our our scope of work.
Um you know just task one is administrative stuff to manage the project. We want to do our homework in collaboration with the city or the town departments to set the baseline of what are the issues. We've heard the problem statements but can we document them? Do
some community engagement. Develop goals. And then task five is really those um key outcomes that will be the policies and the tools going forward. So if you go to the next slide please. Um we developed a 10-month schedule to
do this work. Um you know community engagement want to be careful. We don't want that falling in August when everybody's on vacation or over um the winter holidays. So we might switch those depending when we kick off. But you know we think this is a process um that would be about 10 months long. Um,
and so with the next few slides, I'm kind of just going to go through task by task and give you one level deeper. Um, so at the outset of the project, you know, we've been talking, as Marina said, with different departments in the town. Um, so we want to kick it off and
make sure we have a good understanding of who from public works and the planning department um, and the town administrator, you know, need to be involved at what points in the process. We're engaging all the different uh groups um and then just you know some other administrative stuff here. So on
to task two. Um so we want to review um other transportation focused work that you guys have done in the past. I think there's the traffic mitigation work, there's some master plan implementation work as some key things um that have
come up in our previous discussions. So we want to understand where there have been other transportation goals, what other plans have defined like hotspots and issue areas already so that we have that understanding from what's been done in the past. Um then the other piece of
this is the existing conditions data analysis. So understanding where there are safety issues based on crash history. Um, a lot of that analysis has already been sort of done by the state and the Boston region metropolitan
planning organization. So, pulling in those, you know, safety focus crash analyses and zooming in on Milton, uh, and then looking at traffic volumes, speeds, where people are flowing in and out of Milton as well as within Milton
to set that baseline. On task three, uh, this is the community engagement. So we've outlined a plan for community engagement that has two phases. Um upfront in the initial phase
we would want to introduce this plan and you know there's an awareness in the community of traffic calming. So we would want to take a pulse on that and maybe broaden that awareness. See who's not being reached already and is not already thinking about traffic coming.
So introduce that and then learn from the community what they want to see, what's the vision um for the Hilton's transportation system uh and how can traffic coming play a role in that. In
phase two, we're going to really be sharing the draft materials. So, I'll talk about what that entails in task five, but that'll be the opportunity for here's the draft policy, here's the draft toolkit, and let's get public
reaction. And the next slide um goes through the schedule of those two phases and the different elements of our community engagement plan. We'll be in regular coordination with the traffic commission at three different points. We
plan to come back to you all at two different points throughout the process. Um public openhouse online survey. So different opportunities so folks can have their voice heard in this process of this popup. I think
>> that sounds like a good idea for sure. >> Task four will happen after the first phase of community engagement. Um, this is just to document the vision and goals so that when we're coming up with those datadriven criteria that you heard about
from Marina and Erica, we're we're pointing back towards something. We're saying, okay, we've we've agreed that we want to have safe streets. We've agreed that we want to make sure we're following the data um that there's equity across different neighborhoods.
Um, so what what are those goals? I don't know them yet. Those are just some ideas, but we're going to write those down so that if you go to the next slide in task five, we have a north start that we're pointing back to as we develop decision
making tools. Um, so this is the meat of what the town can expect to take at the end of this process. First on the list is the trafficcoming policy. So this is the framework. There might there might be some sort of decision tree in there that says here's how Milton is going to
make decisions about traffic calming. Here's the role that future public requests play and how we'll handle them. Like Marina says these um input comes into the traffic committee and you know it's like okay we have to
follow the requests. So what how can the policy channel those requests and create a process for what comes next when those come in? Um so the policy is that framework. It sets up the tools based on the goals for evaluating
where traffic coming goes. The next thing on the list here is the trafficcoming toolkit and map. So what are the different trafficcoming tools? Everybody goes for speed humps. Speed bumps. They're not appropriate everywhere. And so what are the other things in the toolbox? And then we'll
take a map of all the streets in Milton, divide them into easy categories. Neighborhood streets, collector streets that connect neighborhoods to big arterial streets, and then the big arterial streets. It's going to look something like that. There might be more
nuance. And then pair the toolkit items with those street types. So it's clear here are the types of tools and here's where they could be applied in there where they would be appropriate to be applied in Milton. The next step on here prioritization
that's coming up with that next few years road map. So based on the criteria and the goals where should we start? Where are we seeing this hotspots of traffic coming issues today? Um and then that can be re-evaluated in the future.
So we'll build that into the flowchart, but we want the town to also take away first steps over the next few years. Four. Fourth thing on here is just kind of documenting all this process and a planning document so you have something that
reflects the process we all went through that you can look back to um for future decision making. And then finally, funding. something Marina mentioned, you know, some of these changes are small small dollar value, but we might uncover
like, you know, we need to do a big rethink of this street. Um, and so we'll summarize some of the grant funding that's out there for those future construction projects. Um, and just some of the key things to be aware of for
funding bigger transportation change. um that's maybe not in the typical uh rep budget. So that's the big overview. I think my next slide just says uh open it let's open it up for discussion.
So happy happy in partnership with Marina to answer any questions questions. Don't look at me. >> I have a bunch of me. I know. So, >> this is what happens when you're dealing
with a fellow transportation planner. >> Please. >> So, thank you for um thank you for coming tonight and presenting. Um I think this was a well a well composed presentation, Marina. Um
thank you for all the work that you've put into this. I think it's a very good idea. um and very um very much of the moment um from just conversations that I have all the time with neighbors. Um
so this these questions aren't organized in any particular fashion. So I'm just going to run through some things. Um, so I'm assuming that when you're doing your baselining and probably doing a a request for information from the town departments,
um, I am my my question is is how are you uh factoring in um any like 40B developments, residential developments that will be coming online in the next several years? Is that I'm assuming that's a consideration.
Um, I think it would be a good idea to factor in like where growth is emerging over the next five years or so. I know this se sounds like more of a near-term plan, but was interested in your thoughts on how that will factor into
the near-term plan. >> I can take a stab at it, which >> uh I I so part of the prioritiz so it's setting the baseline but also part of the prioritization process. Okay, >> we'll be looking at um kind of origins and destinations and generators and so
we can incorporate that into um our generators kind of data to say this is going to be a high density location that's going to have a lot of people coming in and out of it. Um so that is a component of this. I know um you know we'll be looking at part of the generators is like schools, parks,
health centers, um assisted living facilities, like places where there's more vulnerable users are likely to be present and we can kind of weight those based on um the feedback that we're receiving and the conversations we're having with the community about what the priorities are. >> Okay, that's an element. >> Um
what what is your philosophy? Sort of safety and congestion. Do you see those two things as like hard tradeoffs or what's your philosophy in managing those two dynamics? So safety considering
speeds, congestion as you know potential conflict points between pedestrians and vehicles like how are we how are we choosing to balance these two things because sometimes an intervention in one area
may cause a problem in another area. It's a that's a big traffic engineering question. Um I would say that uh we are you know I never approach anything with safety not being the number one thing. And so um ensuring that people are
understanding that that is the priority and that there's um you know I think what you don't want to do is create a situation where I don't think we're these elements are particularly creating congestion so much as slowing you down. um which I think is a different feeling.
I think it feels pretty different if you're sitting in a line of cars waiting at a light versus I had to make a turn um you know at 15 miles per hour instead of 25 across a crosswalk. So having those conversations and having folks understand um the interventions are
really from a safety perspective and not intended to cause congestion um I think is kind of where what I'm thinking about. Um, again, I don't think we're we're going to be increasing red lights or, you know, reducing vehicle lanes particularly as part of this project.
Um, when it comes to number of lanes, um, although that could come out and that will be a harder conversation. I know you're all at the the front of the line with the with the road diet that just took place on um, and kind of dealing with what that feels like. Um, so maybe I'll have to learn a little bit more about how people are feeling about
that locally as well. Just to add to that, when we talk about safety and congestions, we also talk about how these uh tools are going to change how when you make one change in the road, it
would change how people travel on that road. They will choose different locations. We've all lived through that through the Randolph A uh diet, experienced that, right? how it so quickly affects other roads to your
point the congestion. That is why this plan will allow us and it and it should eventually migrate to a region not regional but uh a location because when you make changes to a road you really need to
look at >> that area. So that is why we are go moving away from that person from that street complaining about that and really talking about how does this entire area
gets affected. Um so to your point we're not only thinking about safety but we're also thinking about the congestion approach it will add. So these uh we what I envision
are year one this is the area that so the matrix is going to allow to what are we measuring based upon obviously people's input the police input what are those inputs they're going to so then
when you come into the traffic commission you understand what we're looking at a very transparent plan I feel like people were are lacking transparency They keep asking me and our team, what are you guys looking at? And to lay that out is part of the plan so
people understand that's a wellthought plan. And we're looking at again the entire area. And and here's what we're looking at. >> Um I have one more question. >> You can have as many questions as you like. >> So that's all. >> I know.
>> Surprised you. >> So um >> I got six. So, how are you um how are you factoring in like consideration of like townwide signal
timing and um the condition of the current systems and equipment? like is that something that you think there's a likelihood we may end up identifying as a potential
challenge or risk or how does that I know we're not that urban of a of a town so it may not be as problematic but um and I'm also thinking about we are a municipality that has a lot of touch
points and potential interactions with like city of Austin signal timing DCR mass dot um is are any of those hotspots or potential you know nodes
um that are crossart cross agency going to be looked at as part of this. >> So um yes uh we typically will look at every street that a community has. However, in the prioritization, often we are kind of categorizing them as will
require interjurisdictional um communication. So, it typically, you know, you don't want it in the same bucket as something that you have full control over because you can make those decisions and move fairly quickly like that low hanging fruit we were talking about. Those are going to be a little bit more challenging. They may require certain, you know, designs or studies in
order to go forward, but those will be listed as um still will be part of the plan and part of the prioritization process. it will just have kind of a little asterisk that's like need to communicate with, you know, those those parties in order to go forward kind of thing. >> I just want to make sure we have a good
list of things for our friend departing member Wells to go work on when he when he heads out. >> So he can never forget us. >> I don't want to forget you. >> Thank you. I'm done with my questions.
But just also to add to that, so this plan just for the public, it's not going to come out with all right, street X, you have this this this. It just right, it's just so >> in terms of the the signal timing, it just might come up this area is a hot
spot and then we may need to do the design and then as part of the design uh which you will say these lists of uh tools are widely accepted by our community. Yeah. >> Um, it might come as part of the final
design, the review of the timing. >> Okay. >> So, I believe that it it is not our goal to have the actual designs per each of the streets. So, I just want to make sure that I know you understand that, but folks that are are listening in. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think some of the some of
the what we kind of keep referring to as low hanging fruit might be a little like don't really require a lot of study or design. And it could be, you know, you're able to use that decision tree as a community and kind of have those conversations and say, "All right, this street type, um, you know, is top of the
list. This street type exists and these type of, uh, interventions are appropriate and, you know, you don't really need, you know, full engineering design details in order to go forward. It will be >> so that actually so that that kind of answers another question that was lingering in the back of my mind that I
I wasn't going to ask, but I you know, I I like this approach. I think you're describing because it sounds flexible. What what I was a little bit worried about actually when listening to the proposal was that we'd be like locked into no only this can happen here, but
to have a a menu of options that may be viable. >> Um because you do have the experience, you know, you have residents lived experience in that area. Um, and oftentimes I get like specific requests
for specific interventions. Um, and unless you're a skilled engineer, you don't always know the full range of options, right? Um, so that is actually nice to know that there's some flexibility
um with the approach and some data to back it up. >> Miss Wells, thank you, Mr. Chan. Thank you to say. So full disclosure, so I chair the traffic commission for 10 years. So I know a little bit about
this. So the way I like to describe traffic in the town of Milton is like the ocean. High tide, you have low tide. Sometimes you have king tides. Today was a king tide day because you had whenever you have. So there there a little bit of
history. There are six bridges that flow into the city of Austin from the south. >> How many are in this town? >> Dare I say six? >> Five. >> Quay has one. We have five. >> So, a lot of people when they go to the
traffic commission, a motion is a big part of it. It's by street, it's this, it's that. Most people interpret traffic issues as speed's the issue. But yet, we reduced we went townwide 25 mph speed limit over three years ago. And they
would still think that because to many people and you see that when Marine she gets the same thing. I've gone back and read traffic commissioner reports 60 years ago and neighbors have come with the same complaints they had 60 years ago. And my dad shared it for five years and said to me when I became goes God
bless you. I said it's her when she became God bless her. It's it's very because it's very but we have a volume issue when when um keeps talking about congestion. The volume creates congestion every so today's a congestion I I spent two hours in this afternoon
today's a congestion day rain a significant crash 93 28 boom so if you are in your GPS and you because we live in a different world and just like I go the same way you listen to BZ news you look in your GPS you this you're going to do whatever you
can so I always would describe it's like traffic is going to follow the point of least resistance so when We, as you know, we implemented the road diet and suddenly the five cutthrough streets that go along Reeddale Road to Highland
Street went from, you know, 50 cars to getting 100 cars an hour because people didn't want to sit and it's it's it's we figured out ways we've so that's going to be and I I appreciate like she's asking all the right questions. The
difficulty you'll have is we live in a very highly mobile society. Well, we see it in our schools. Our schools were built to walk to, but if you go to pick up drop off any day in school, the lines a mile long, you know, everybody's picking up. So, and that adds locally to congestion that like
when Miss Hegy said like we bought 13 miles of the city of Boston. So you feel that pressure pushes on you and that a lot of people they don't realize that you know they want to get in their car and go here they want to go here they want and then they're like what is this? So that's the I I do I think it's
because of the traffic commission. You're really giving out band-aids. That's what you're doing. Am I right? Like people coming here's my issue. You don't have a lot. You have no money. It's a zero base. It's a zero budget committee, you know? So here's a band-aid to go and try and fix to make you feel like even like you're going to
get How many want speed bumps? Give me a speed bump. Give me a speed bump. Give me But speed bumps are, you know, they're not they're not an end all be. So I appreciate you. We're both on our way out the door, but I'm in a new role, so it's she'll call me on the phone. But
I listen, I get it. Like today is, as I told you, this road diet thing has been I I'm and I commend the staff at Mass. Like, I wish that I could have seen that myself. And I've been in more fatal accidents of that street that I could
count. But that road diet has worked. But today, DC threw us a curveball. DCL wants to close they want to close Chickbit Road permanently like no way you can't do that you can't you can't sit on the sideline for months and
months of planning and say oh we're going to close our street can't do it can't do it so that's that's a fight for a different day but just like so I I and I only give it to you because you know when you watch the slide and you listen and you know like being chair of the traffic commission is a very very hot
job you know when people think talk about I will do this and let the traffic do. It's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to do do it and live through it. It's it's very very traffic is not one of the there are many many amenities of this community. Traffic's not one of them. That's all I get to say. I don't want to get I'll get off my
soap box. >> Thank you, Mr. Wells. Um Mr. >> So, thank you. And thank you. >> And then Mr. Driscoll and then Mr. Daly, I just saw your hand up. So, we'll go to you next. >> Mrs. Hagy can answer this ladies. state like likes roundabouts because there's
no traffic lights, right? >> Uh I don't know if I'd say that they like them or dislike them. >> That's what Connecticut put in the paper. That's why they want them. >> Yes. Traffic lights. >> I know. I know. Mass requires if you're going to be looking at an intersection um to do an evaluation of the
intersection control to determine if what's most appropriate and a roundabout is uh required to be considered. >> Um >> does it get rid of those? Well, lower maintenance cost I believe part of it. Yeah. Um and it it can it can be good for traffic flow as well actually.
>> But really pros and cons. I have pros and cons. >> Sometimes it meters traffic more efficiently than um >> signalization. >> Signalization. Um it can also reduce uh conflict points
and um crashes. >> The teeth crashes. >> Yeah. Yeah, the T which which is really the issue why we're there. The the the tea crashes are this is the issue. >> Yes. It depends a lot on the the context. If you have a lot of pedestrians that can be really
challenging at a at a roundabout. Um you want the flows to kind of be equivalent in all directions or they don't really work. So there's >> Can you tell DC that because they want to go side >> you're gonna look at East Milton I hope.
>> Oh yeah. in there's a light that you only go to four or five cars then it turns red. >> Bring it out. That's that's absurd. >> Yeah. >> And then coming from the shell like that light there going to the fire station
triggers real fast too. The cars are backed up. That whole >> That's part of why I was asking the question about um how to interact with like stateowned signals versus town owned signals. my hypothesis or theory again like everyone can be an armchair
and traffic engineer and I am not at all. Um but it seems to me like some of the more problematic uh points are where we connect with um the exterior uh
intersections that we don't necessarily have control over. So even more reason for us to have a data driven um conversations about that. >> Yeah. And I think I mean we're going to be hearing things that we maybe cannot solve as part of this plan. We're going to ensure that all that feedback is
received and documented so that things that we hear that maybe are not part of the ultimate policy will still be uh brought to the surface and shared so that >> you know you don't want folks to feel like they weren't heard because they will be heard and we'll make sure that that comes through. >> This East Milton node that Mr. Driscoll
is talking about is like it's crazy because you have >> is it along 93 like that? >> Yeah, it's that you're coming up off 93 on script like it's literally you're like maneuvering around 93 through our town. >> I go up Mechanic Street the wrong way.
>> Yeah, >> I don't have the patience. >> I don't have the patience. God >> I don't have the patience. >> Oh my god. >> All right, that's a good signal I think to turn to Mr. Mr. Mr. Dailyaly has got his hand up. Mr. Dailyy,
>> might have to strike that from the minute. >> Yeah. Right. >> Um, my one question is kind of pivoting off of what Marina said. Uh, what is your approach to providing in this report and your assessment some living recommendations?
uh that because I'm worried that in so many reports that we get it's for an of the moment and if it you know takes a little while for implementation takes a little while to roll things out how do you approach giving recommendations that we can continue to
use when we judge the changes and the traffic patterns for continued improvements that that's definitely been front of our minds you know based on our conversations Marina and so we've viewing one of the key outputs as that
flowchart and decision makingaking tool whatever it looks like that has you know we're going to take do the goal setting exercise translate that into datadriven things so things that can be measured
based on crash data speeds vehicle volumes um and do that all in a very transparent fashion so that's a process that we'll do it once and then you guys will have the tools to be able to do that in future years to evaluate okay
what's our next set of priorities. So that prioritization process you know we imagine to be something replicable as well as the other parts of the process like what do we do when a request comes in how often is the town going to
re-evaluate those criteria that I just described. So I think the policy is intended to create those frameworks and then like that one two three year road mapap is more of like what should
we do now and so that part will be a little bit more of the moment as you said in terms of what comes next. >> Yes. I'd like also to add uh the vision that I have shared with the team. I know I'm on my way out, but um the you know
Darwin has been brought up to speed. He's he's been here since the incorporation the the uh making of this plan. So which is great. You're going to have a great continuation. Uh but what I'm going to give you an example how I envision this. We have a set of
neighborhood that is parallel to 93 and we know it's a cutthrough neighborhood, right? um several people in those neighborhoods have come to the select to the traffic commission every single day to request for traffic calming and then you do something on one street and it to
your point it impacts the other streets. So let's let's first let's say that this and I believe that at one point this this road map is going to point out that to be a a red area, right? Let's call it a a hot point area. either the hot
points area are either due to traffic um um traffic um accidents. So it's a it's a high area traffic accident or input from the community. So there are different things that would be bubbling those neighborhoods up. So that neighborhood gets bubbled up to the top
and now we're taking care of it. Uh that uh road map is going to tell us was making a decision that hey don't just look at one street you got to look at more than one. So now we have a set of we have a neighborhood and then that will put in the process. It will start
triggering the process. So this is not telling me what to do in that neighborhood, but it is saying these are the these are the things that we might want to consider for this neighborhood. Bring the neighborhood in for a meeting. Let's talk to the neighbors. What do they want the feel and the look of that
particular neighborhood? to your point the um you know closing industry um decreasing and and how does that affect uh other services the emergency services absolutely need to be considered you
don't many not many but some people will say close out my street I want it to be a dead end street right we all um right >> but what does it do to the other uh driving forces which is then we bring the emergency services, right? What does
it mean? What does it mean to our budget? We um may not be required for us to spend an entire budget only on those neighborhoods. So again um to answer your question um that is what how we
envision this um to work in a very realistic in a very uh practical way because it will provide us these baselines and the baselines today may not be the baselines
tomorrow because again we're trying to do the some things right away. Once that is done, we need to move the baseline because we've achieved their baseline, right? So, we'll continue to move that baseline along um in order to prioritize
our neighborhoods in this community. >> And I think a big part of this process is just ensuring that all all the departments within the town and also the public to some extent are kind of uh informed a little bit more, educated a little bit more and understand like what everyone's priorities are. So part of
this process is really just like facilitating these conversations and then documenting them. >> Also just want to add to all this is also a practical and hands-on element to like you know what should a turning radius be from a larger street to a smaller street. So maybe when we're
doing our curb ramps we'll square off those intersections now the turn go much slower and naturally slow traffic down. to your point like those are the kind of more tangible things that we'll have that we can apply on streets across that aren't just um kind of um goals that
could be achieved in a couple of years but are going to be practical um toolkit items that we could take off the shelf and apply to any number of streets in in Milton and other place in AC in different neighborhoods across town as well. So there's that practical element of actual implementation ideas that are
low cost um and effective um and affect more of the side streets where we see a lot of the complaints coming from >> because they take the bleed. That's it. They you know people see a hiccup take a side street. That's it.
So, um, from from the chair's perspective, I think this is an optimal time to do this because I think, you know, we had a terrible crash on, uh, Randolph, uh, last summer and this board wrote, uh, you know, to to mast and we
were able to very quickly, I I think, get, uh, the this road diet in place and we have also worked very closely with uh, the neighbors uh, of abuing neighborhoods uh, to figure out how best to optimize it. And uh I have just
really been inspired by how the community has looked at this kind of collectively as as something that is a a good thing. You know, I it initially was, you know, a lot of a lot of roadblockages and um as I note that you guys heard uh from Mr. Corey, um it is
still a little bit of a whack-a-ole. We've we've pushed the traffic down here and it's popped up over on Canav. I'm also an Upper Cannav resident, so I I know exactly what he's talking about. And so I think that this is a really um it's it's a great idea. It's a great
time to do this. I think that, you know, for the town, we're we're going to be ready to have this conversation. Um so I don't really have a question and I and I I do have a soap box also, but that's I guess I I'll step off of it. My suggestion is that I think as we
consider the public outreach portion of this to get input, I you know, you mentioned earlier like the high um traffic areas like schools, retirement uh villages and communities. I would specifically go to the PTO's of the
schools along, you know, the school principles. I would go to Milton Academy. I would go to Curry College. I would go to Fuller and Homemake and Winter Valley and direct let them know um you know particularly the online one
I think for for some folks will probably be the easiest but let them know that we're soliciting input uh and encourage them to to provide that input because you know particularly I I I agree with you like parents and you know the elderly are hyper aware of the uh of of
traffic safety for good reason and so I think they will have good input. Um, and I think by encouraging all of those folks to sort of comment, then it will also have the, you know, the subsequent effect of ensuring folks that we're really trying to get everybody's input
and advice here and not just looking at specific neighborhoods. >> And I think I know we didn't really linger on it too much, but the online survey I think would be a really good forum for and a website that has a lot of information. A great way to get the word out. >> Yeah. And so using thinking about maybe sending it to all school parents for
example or however there there might be ways to uh to get it out there to uh to bigger audiences. But I think that would be uh critically important for the success of this because we've seen when we bring people together and to talk about these issues, everyone wants to solve these problems in a way that's
safe for everyone. So I think um this is really exciting. >> Yes, Mr. >> Just a final point. This is something Miss Haggetty brought up and this goes back to when nine years when I was first aboard. We were in the East Mill project. Bless you. Excuse me.
>> Um, Howard Stein Hudson strongly me recommended this smart technology and I'm not even sure whether signalization talks to signals and and coordinated >> it. I and we pushed Todd at the time we wanted it and I had forgotten what we
just brought to actually on Adam Street to talk through lower mills on Grand to talk through to talk through Gala Boulevard because if you go and watch it it's not a light it's a it's and I know that the town struggled getting that
online at the end of that project and I still to this day don't know if it it works as it was sold to us But to me to what miss I mean if you look at Europe London and and I just want a trade mission to to London to Dublin and you
they talk you know you we have cameras everywhere if we have cameras we can have techno because that's the only way to really kind of particularly on the commute. So when I talk about the waves when the king died to really make a difference um and I think it's important
that's the only place in town we have it um and I do know that I think >> are they our signals or are they masked out? No, but they were part of the project. They were included in the in the project and in the bid. I believe Jack Collaro takes care, right, Jack? But there was a lot of difficulty
getting it to work when it first. So, but I do know that there was a lot of discussion between us, the city of Boston, as far as making them talk to making them talk beyond the border, >> you know, beyond beyond just the the line of So, just one thing when you're
looking big picture. >> Yeah. And that's part of setting the baseline and making sure we're not uh reinventing any wheels and we're aware of what's already been done and kind of what's working, what's not. So, >> so we'll we can entertain a motion. >> I'll make I'll make a motion, Mr. chair to approve the proposal for
trafficcoming master plan and policy with tool design. >> Okay. Motion's made and seconded. Any further discussion? >> You have to pay him tonight. >> You got your checkbook. >> That's a lot.
>> Invoices line with >> you have to always have fuel at all times. >> So with no further discussion or jokes, uh we will go to a roll call vote on this. Uh starting with you, Mr. Daily. >> Yes. >> Mr. Driscoll. >> Yes. >> Mr. Wells. Yes. >> Miss Zagerty.
>> Yes. >> And myself. Yes. >> Thank you very much for coming in for your time and we look forward to this work. >> Thank you, Marina. >> Thank you, Marina. You're going to stick around with us, I think, for our next item. >> Yes. >> So, our next item is discussion of the capital paving management program
overview with DVW director Marina Marina Fernandez, town engineer Darwin Spios, and assistant town engineer Sky Bub. Um, and I know we've got Sky online. Um, so
>> great, great to have you. Um, so Marina, why don't we turn the floor over to you? >> Thank you. Uh, thank you, chair. Thank you, select board again. Uh, this is, uh, just want to start off by saying that, um,
it, I know I have a month left, but it's been great working for the town. It's it's you in a very enjoyable uh position. I feel like the work that you guys are doing and that the team is doing every single day is really exciting. So, it was definitely a hard decision to make, but you guys are in
wonderful hands. Darwin and Sky has been with us since he um since he uh graduated from UMass Darm a couple of years ago and he's just done tremendous job. anyone that has seen him out there, he's really working hard for this town.
Um, and I'm very proud of him, very proud of Darwin also. And again, you guys are in excellent, excellent hands. Uh, with that being said, um, we do have a presentation here for you today. Um, I'll try to go through it quickly. It's
a lot of content, but please, um, stop me if you have any questions. Um, I met with you all a few months ago where I said I would come back and talk to you about uh the need for uh, you know, additional uh, requests for funding for
infrastructure, specifically the pavement. Um and today I'm here to try to explain how we go about um selecting the roads in which we're going to pave and um again with that idea of bettering
the entire community um as opposed to one selected street. Um so right just so you know the roadway network for our town is approximately 97 miles uh of roadways that have been accepted. Uh
currently our roadway service rating is 61.88 EA the road the RSR which is so-called it's kind of like a score that is given for the entire community and every three
years or so uh we hire a a firm that drives around and using uh a tool they score every single one of our uh roadway network and provides each uh selected
road with a score that that score allows us to understand what kind of repair method is the best uh selection for that uh roadway. And again uh looking at the combined score um is 61.88
which is not atypical from uh uh any other community here in Massachusetts but we certainly wanted to look at that score every single time and look at it going up. right now unfortunately uh we are aging faster than we're investing in
our roads and there are different challenges that I will speak about uh but mostly it's the cost so we're looking at uh construction costs since co having gone up if you ever try to do any work in your house you know that it
costs you know a considerable amount more that's not atypical of all of our waterways uh all of our infrastructure um all of our uh uh our roadways as well. Uh so with the same amount of money that we were using uh five years
ago, we are getting to do a little less. Um the estimated uh improvements to get all of the works the all the if we were to make um improve all of the roadways at this point in time, it would be $22.5
million. um that cost is only represents roadway surface improvements. They don't include the sidewalks, the ADA compliance, the drainage or utility improvements. This entire report that you see here on this
uh today is on that uh link uh if any one of you are interested in taking a look at um next slide please. So when I talk about the current fiscal year 26 budget, there is approximately
1.2 million in town appropriations related to roadway and um our sidewalks. A million is what we have uh historically appropriated and uh additionally 200,000 for sidewalks. Um
there's also for this fiscal year 1.2 million 1.2 million in chapter 90 appropriations. That's our state funds um for a total of 2.4. Um most of you might be surprised to learn that approximately only 45% of that amount is
actually spent on the roadway surface. What do we use the other account amounts for? You can look at that pie chart. it. You have uh wheelchair ramps, uh sidewalks, permanent trenches that are done throughout the town, uh pavement
markings, police details, uh other remaining budget and contingencies, um uh structures, the castings, everything else that the BM everything else that is related that is not the roadway service.
Next slide, please. We use a five-year projection uh model in order to demonstrate how that again that roadway network uh RSR changes based on the different funding
scenarios. So if we had um at the current level of spending as you saw in the ne last slide that only 45% of that of that 2.4 roughly 1.05 05 uh are being spent on
the roadways. You will see that that level that will show shows us it's the orange line. They're going to be declining in in in overall network um rate uh over the last next five years and not going up despite the amount of
funding that we currently maintain. uh we would need to spend around one and a half million on the roadway surfaces in order to just maintain the current score. So over the year the town really
needs to be looking at in increasing the uh overall um budget rather than uh maintaining where we are. Next slide please. the
>> Sorry, we're messing with that. Oh, >> is that us? Did we >> I think we screwed it up. Sorry. >> Okay. >> I couldn't see the number. >> Yeah, I saw him give you a look. We were g >> I feel like it is me. >> 2.5 million. >> It is you. Yeah, >> it's Nick. It's Nick that's doing it. >> Oh,
>> so blue is 2.5 million. 2 million is the green and 1.5 is the black solid. >> And to be clear, that's the number. That's the 45% number, >> right? That's just the roadway surface. If we were spending the roadway surface money, >> I do think it would be helpful to know
what some comparable communities RSR is >> because it seems like 59 would be worse than 62, but I don't know like >> does that mean it looks like a war torn street or does it look >> 65 look like versus 61?
>> That's a great question. I I can I should have put in a picture of a It's just to me like I know what a 65 looks like. Yeah, we can we can follow up with you on it. >> I'll send you >> if we post this I can post pictures of example um
>> that would be super helpful. If I may add, um I do believe on the website, Marina, as you referenced before, for the full uh summary report does include uh pictures showing uh a low RSR roadway and then a high ranking RSR roadway for
comparison. >> Thank you, Sky. >> Yeah. And um >> Oh, Mr. Daly has his hand up. Mr. Yeah. Quickly, Marina, um >> I got it. >> In that followup, is it possible for us to also get some uh sort of connecting
point to dollars and condition? Just seeing in here that it's a little hard for me to see that for a million dollars, as I think folks in the room are saying, we're only going from a 61 to 65. You know, I would like to see
>> is there a number, you know, what's 61 to 80 look like >> or 85? >> Okay. >> A lot more money. >> Mr. Mr. >> This is none of your fault. >> I was on the war committee about seven years ago and Chase Berkeley said we
needed at least 30 to$40 million to bring our roads up to snuff. This is not your fault. It's the town's fault. >> So going up couple points from 61 to that's not going to do much. >> Yeah. >> I drive a lot of roads looking at jobs
and they're all a disgrace. No one's fault. It's my fault for letting it get that bad. Seriously, seven, eight years ago they were talking about 30 to$40 million. We had a bond for road work and everybody's had their head in the sand. No one didn't fault in here, but it's
been out in the public how bad it is. So, it's it's just it's just very it's not good. All the roads are tough. It's like center street, center lane. I mean, it's like a third world country part of that road.
Go to Emerson Woods. That's another bad road. And that was only 30 40 year development. Heric drive today the first part of that and all your trucks got to plow that stuff. All the plows get beat up. There's a lot of
ramifications to that. We're buying a million dollar $2 million tower truck. It's all electronics. You go down the road doing 50 miles an hour. I'm sure that's not going to help that truck. So there's a lot of ramifications for the roads the way they are. And it's my
fault because I've known about this for seven or eight years. I just It's not your fault. It's not your crew. Your crew does a great job. Just the town got to wake up and start thinking about putting money in the roads. You know what I mean? The kids are going to fall out of the bus seats
going to the school. >> That's why we're here today to ask for >> I understand, but we're not we're not we're not even putting a band-aid on it. >> You know what I mean? City of Quinsey puts out bids for $10 million, then another bid for another 10 million. They bond it. They do this curb and the
sidewalks, you know what I mean? So, we're way behind the eightball here. >> Yeah. We just learned today that Quincy has gone up several points um on their RSRs. Um >> but it's not, you know, you did a tremendous work. It's we've had our head
in the sand for years, >> Mr. Wells, do you hear? >> So, I just I thought so you've we've already the capital we've had these discussions here. A million dollars today is not what it was 10 years ago. I thought we bumped it this year to 1.5 >> and we bumped it to 1.5 this year. Right. >> That's included on
>> but but I won't be here but going for whoever is here. Mr. Driscoll's right. We're going to have to find a way to stop. >> Yes. And and that's the the background to Okay. that conversation. >> Uh >> all right. We'll go to the next slide. >> It's a thoughtprovoking slide.
>> Yeah. Um, chapter 90 appropriations have relatively stayed the same for the past 10 years except for in 2025 and 2026, we saw uh an increase uh due to the state budget allocations generated from the
fair share amen amendment. So basically um it's definitely been been helping the community with with that statewide increase. Uh next slide please. the pavement management challenges innovations. So just so I I I wanted to
put it out there because we get the same questions over and over again. Most think most people think that the worst uh worst first approach is the best. Uh but our engineering shows that the most cost-effective approach is which includes a lot of proactive maintenance
on roads uh is where the we're keeping those conditions uh upkeeping with the conditions rather than waiting for the roads to be completely deteriorated where we got to do now a full reconstructions which can cost you know so many times over just continue to
maintain that road with a good score. uh that's the approach that this engineering team has uh placed over the last even before I was here. uh but we definitely have been seeking additional uh uh treatments uh that's why you have
seen uh treatments being done uh obviously they are they are you know carefully selected so that we get the best uh results. Um some example are we've we've been using microsurface uh
which is just thin layer on a good set of asphalt. Uh example we did that on Pleasant Street. We did that on Reedsdale. We have also several roads that we have been using fog seal. I believe I came here before and explained to you that the fog seal is kind of like
um your UV protector for the road. you will get that that road to maintain that score longer um without the cracks coming up. Um we also have been uh widely used crack seal as well the 2-in
mill and overlay in this next year we're going to be use uh a CIR which is the uh code 80 place recycle which is a bit more environmentally friendly and a little less costly. um way of and less
invasive um way of doing full reconstruction on on roads. Um so again our team has really been seeking all these other alternatives and all the tools and the toolbox in order to get is stretch our dollar further. Um again as
noted before despite the the increase in amount of roads treated and the increase on both of our budget and the roadway budget uh we have seen the roadways uh score h having um decreased. You see
that in 2022 our roadway score was 64.85 again townwide 2024 was a 63 2025 is 61.88. So if you want to it's it's hard to picture right because like you're trying to look at a how did my our average town of Milton score how
does a 64.8 8 it's imperceptible um but it it is just a way to measure it and and discuss uh but in this summary you will see that in 2025 using all of
the alternatives uh we we treated eight miles of the road of our roads in 2024 it was 11 miles and um the the numbers below our ear paths Um next slide please. So completed
pavement work uh from fiscal year 2023 to 2026. Uh in calendar year 2023 we did 4.41 miles of road. Uh those numbers are basically the summary of that table that you saw in the previous slide and
>> and the tables that you also have it in details. You have the streets um and what kind of treatment they were done uh and the total amount of work completed for the
roadway surface. Um again uh proposed calendar year 2026 2027 um is 11 and a half miles of road race. You also have a detailed table for that. Um and the proposed costs is $1.88
million. Next slide please. Uh next slide talks about um what we have completed. We have completed 125 uh wheelchair ramps uh from fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2026.
Uh for a total of both sidewalks and curb ramps um of $3 million worth of work. And for next year, uh, we have 2.42 miles of sidewalks planned to be done, 29 ramps,
and the proposed construction cost is 1.16 million. >> It might just be helpful to just explain the curve ramps and sidewalks because they're not we're not doing all of them, but we have to do them sometimes. >> Yes. So the the way that um the chapter
90 when we're using chapter 90 allocations we affirm that uh we are doing ADA compliant uh wheelchair ramps uh get done when one is not there. A lot of our our our town our our roads even
though we're doing a road it already has a sidewalk. We will not hit the sidewalks. We will not redo the sidewalks unless we are already doing the water man and sometimes national grid comes in and does the uh gas as
well. So once we have the water man and the gas uh done because all of those services have now disrupted the sidewalks that's when it's best for us to just get the sidewalks done. Again, if we're doing the road and the
sidewalks are in good shape, we might just pinpoint locations that are pinched due to ADA compliance and we'll treat those um in a more cost-effective way rather than repaving, resurfacing a sidewalk that is in a good shape because
sidewalks are very very costly and we are trying to again focus on the same pool of money. uh wheelchair ramps. It's a mandated by the state. So when we are doing a roadway curb to
curb, you will see us come in and do the uh wheelchair ramps with the plates and all of that. That also um reminds me to mention to you that
when we are giving the budget of um upcoming our our pavement budget, we know which roads we're doing water main work and then that usually uh triggers National Grid to come in and do the gas. We are
also reviewing I mentioned that to you. Uh we are also looking at the um drain and the sewer because the last thing we want to do although it does happen with the best of our our intent is we don't want to reconstruct the road and then
have a a water main break happens all the time but um we try to get the utilities done first and then we do the road but is to the point of increasing the budget or the pavement which is
fantastic. DPW wouldn't be any more happy with that being said is we are going to start with the increased money of uh paving uh we start running out of budget to keep up with the water man because we also have the same issues.
Those budgets have not been increased over the years. We've always allocated 596,000 which I'll get to in a second for the water man and 1.15 for the sewer. So we are going to start getting a limited amount of okay now I cannot
really change with the water man even though I know I'm going to do um a pavement reconstruction. So we are going to start seeing more um breaks potential breaks in a brand new paved road uh which is not ideal but again it's kind
of that that leveling budget. If I am unable to do all the water manes, I I'm not treating the roadway uh from the ground up anymore. We're doing our best. You consider that all the time, but just something to think about. >> Just one thing that we've talked about
is the $596,000 that Marina mentioned, just the amount of um water made work that issues to the town of a 10year no interest bond for water work. So, we've worked within that constraint, but we
can, you know, issue or we can approve a $2 million bond for water work, borrow that over 20 or 30 years and paid back over a longer time at a low interest rate that the town is able to secure. So, we've limited ourselves in the past on only doing the water vein work to the extent that we get interest free loans
from MWA, but we don't have to. It's it's a choice we made. It's not a choice we have to stick to. So to Marina's point, if if we are going to increase the roadway pavement budget, we should also look at increasing the water main budget so that we're able to stay um in
in tangent in correlation together rather than have them kind of diverge. So that's that's one thing >> because otherwise it's like you're throwing good money after bad. >> Yeah, that's exactly right. >> That's something we've been talking about. >> And once you do it, you can't stop it. It's just going to be perpetual. >> Mr. Driscoll
>> Marina. Some of these roads you'd only have to reclaim half of it. You know what I mean? Because they're in such bad shape like that center lane start off coolage. You only have to do half that road. You'll plane it. Do a layer in the bad
part. The other part know I understand you want to do pipes and everything else underneath it that might survive long enough. You know, that's just my thinking. I don't know. A lot of this stuff I'm thinking like do half of the dam, you know, do the damage area, plane
it, put the new hot top in. >> We do um that in areas for example when I talked about the micro uh there are air it's supposed to the micro only goes in a fairly good surface. So we come in
and we actually um do um repair of trenches that are in bad shape. So they're are nice trenches. Um then we come in with the micro. We could have a a similar approach, but with the pavement uh with the the 2-in mill and
overlay that does cause damage to a 1916 >> uh year old pipe. And for most roads that we're treating with mill and overlay, it's a twoinch mill and overlay here and then a two the cost
effectiveness. you might as well just do the entire road. Uh because just by mobilizing the crews to that site, they're not going to come in and skip and and the cost that we get and and and also like what we see with roads, it
might have aged, but it's the same. It's the same subsurface. So, we're dealing with the same sort of uh treatment throughout. So um we actually have a a schedule before we hit certain roads and
certain treatments where we do cores of the road. So we select the the best approach for that road. So next slide is the infrastructure project. So again uh jumping into what we just talked about uh we do have a
10-year uh look ahead. We have a capital plan for where we need to hit our water manes from fisc year 23 23 to 2032 that is based on our our water main models. It looks at firefl deficiencies. It look
at age and materials and uh we use that uh that plan which is basically a table and tells us where we're going to go next to coordinate with a roadway pavement. Again, the the greatest scenario for a DPW and engineering team is that integration of all of the
infrastructures. I look at my water manes. I know where I want to go with my roadways. I look at we just talked about um a traffic calming. Uh you come in and you hit okay, is this my traffic calming? So, you have and we are establishing that in our team where
because you're going to hit a road, what are the other things that we're looking at? So that when we hit one road, people might get frustrated with us, but we are doing it all. So you do the you you do all the types of treatments that need to be done once. Um again with the funding
source currently is the town appropriation which is led by the historical MWR loan and grant programs. Uh but if we can start going out of that and we should really be increasing think about increasing that appropriation because we again we were doing five
streets with our water main work five six streets and now we can barely do uh three a year. We actually uh putting out look at the projects that we have completed. Um they're being we are uh doing a bigger project every two years
in order to get that engineering cost um um uh effectiveness. Uh so we we put out a larger bid project over every two years. Um next is the sewer capital project. Um the sewer capital project we
aim in reducing infiltration and in inflow. uh that allows the town to lower the MWA treatment plant costs because we get metered for uh water that should not really be going down the the sewer, but we do get um metered and we need to pay
those costs which are substantial to the MW8. So MW also um does more in terms of loans and grants associated with sewer because reducing ini equals to less treatment. so they don't have to expand
their their own treatment plants. Um, so also we have been uh historically focusing on what is called trenchulous technology. So even though you're not seeing us um rip up the the sewer, it doesn't mean
that we're not there. We're just doing it in a trenchulous way and we're building that uh pipe within a pipe which um I'm historically known to carry around that sample. I don't know why I don't have it. It's in his office. >> We don't need it. >> We got it.
>> Then um completed projects. Uh we had the the the ones that we did have to open cuts for in 2023. And then 2024 we had $1.28 million of uh sewer trenchless technologies that uh got done uh over
29,000 linear feet of um of pipes and manholes. Um upcoming projects, please. Next slide. Um right now what we have in the queue for this year and ne and and this year is the lead services
replacement project for the water man which you all have heard me talk about where we're going to come in replace 49 lead services do uh test pits. Uh we came in at a bid cost of 1.2. Our construction estimate was 1.8 which is
great. Uh and we will start working uh next May with Ratandi. So those folks that are listening in um if they receive a letter from our town, you're probably one of the the test pits or replacement projects. So people will start getting
that information will be coming out. Also, um we have we are currently um bidding next May next month uh the water main projects for these upcoming
streets. Um uh work won't start until summer of this year. Um, and then for sewer, we have we're designing uh for an expected uh fall uh start date of various locations throughout town to
continue the work that has already been um analyzed and we are going to be doing um CIP lining um based on uh on the on the historical information we we've come
through from previous studies and review of our sewer systems. Last slide on the is the storm water capital project. Uh basically what we have done our last uh BMP which
is the best management practice which is um was at the Collico Cunningham storm water structure that was completed for a design cost of 33,000 total construction cost of 197,000. We have a complete website. Please everybody uh check it
out. And then we just came out with an educational video uh that we have been using for the fifth grade students from Collie Cunningham to learn about uh managing storm water, how to improve the quality of the brooks and um use uh what
we call really biomimicking. You're using existing surfaces to treat uh the storm water. And one is not to um confuse storm water with sewer. Uh there's a lot of but they're not the same that we fortunately we don't have a
combined system here in town. So that is why you know built is number it's amazing. We don't have a we don't have a a combined system and we are MW community. Um on the horizon we're furthering a design at another location that will be Brook Road and Center
Street. uh we have applied for a grant and uh once that is announced if awarded we will then start the public outreach related to that project. So with that being said I know it's a lot um that's the capital project uh if you have any
questions concerns >> we were asking questions during um the presentation but members are certainly welcome to ask other questions. Mr. Daly your hands up. Marina, thank you uh not only for the presentation but for your work. Uh I'm
not sure if I'll be able to see you before your last day, but thank you for all the work you've put in and your dedication to this town. Uh I you actually started your presentation with exactly where I was going to go with um
the number for what all of our roads would cost. I think you were at that 22.5 million. Uh my first question is what is in what is included in that number? Is that just labor? Is it cost of
materials? And over what time frame would you say that 20 22.5 million would get us to um all of these addressable issues just on the roadways? >> Yeah. Can we go back to that slide
piece? >> Committee just had a heart attack. Um, I'll start off uh by I'll answer in detail as Nick is pulling up the slide, but I just want to start off is that it's not the best practice for us to just tackle the $22.5 million because
then they were going to age all at once uh again and then we're going to be in that same predicament. Um although people say that roadways don't, you know, I have heard several different um numbers. Someone say that a road will
age in 20, 25, 30 years, but they age at different uh different uh rates. Also, we're very blossoming community. People are always cutting and requesting to cut through. So then again, um the 22.5
million dollars will not include the infrastructure underneath it. So then we're going to have a brand new road everywhere, but with 1916 uh water manes at some locations. So with that being said, that table under that I know it's hard to read, Mr.
Dailyaly, but um it's on that >> it it has the reclamation. So as you can see, reclamation would be required at 27 miles of our road, which is only 30% of our repair, but that alone cost 13
million. So again trying to get ourselves away from waiting for a road to need a reclamation because that is what is going to cost us the most. Um so then when you are able to treat just
with 2-in milling overlay which we are according to our uh our area 25% of our roads would be doing would be uh a good candidate for mill and overlay that is only $7 million. Um and then preventive
maintenance u so that is very well detailed in this table. And uh if you go to this this this data uh report, it does have uh the ideal breakdown which Sky did tell me put that
in there and I said no, but it's uh 35% I believe that our roads uh would be good candidates for the preventive uh maintenance. It has a pie chart on or how what the cost benefit
analysis is. Oh, there it is. Thank you. Uh 35 the funding distribution by that would be the ideal funding distribution uh for a community. Um, again, that's the idea of trying to maximize uh our
roadway network for score as a unit rather than thinking I live in the street so I really want this street very passible. Would that be the best practice to >> Yes, that is uh the engineering
community as a whole has determined that that is the best practice. >> So over so to not do all the roads at the same time but break them down in the way you have it in the pie chart in that graph. >> Correct. We try not to get a good roads
that we've already invested in to get to the point where they need reclamation. And I know that it sounds like really far off, but it's not. You continue to maintain it while bringing up at the same time some of the ones that did fall through.
>> And it is called a costbenefit uh analysis which is all >> it's it's that background um that comes into when we are selecting the roads to move next. We
select the roads based on what I need to do for water manes because I'm going to have to pave that road because I'm doing water man. So that's a different driver than if I had to if I didn't have water manes. So that already accounts for a
lot of my a portion of the money related to the roads that we're going to be in. Then I'm left with some money uh available for that year. Right. the the roads that I have not already spent from
my water mane jobs and I had to pave because I did no water manes on that road. So that other money that is left I use this costbenefit analysis in looking at let's keep up the roads, let's maintain the roads we just did. Let's um
look at what roads are you're going to get the biggest bang for your buck first in order to increase this the the RSR for the entire community as a whole. So you're doing more work with the lesser amount of money.
Oh, so this sounds like a practice that you would use with a smaller pool of money, allocating the funds to where you can get the, as you said, the best bang for the buck if you had a larger pool of money. Um, let's say it was 25 million.
Is this the same practice that you would um that you would use? >> It's still the same practice. Uh, but then I just get longer on my list because the list is every single I don't know if you if it's on the but I'd love
to share that with you. Every single one of our roads has a costbenefit value to it, right? Um, >> you just allocated accordingly. >> Then you just if you give me more money, I'm just going to go further down my list
>> based on my cost benefit value. It's helpful. Uh, other questions? >> There's no motion. Oh, sorry, >> Mr. Driscoll. >> I just want to thank you. You had a your crew and you did a great job this winter. >> I saw you out in the truck myself. So,
you were out there plowing and stuff. You were out there, but >> you did a great job. >> She over the curbel. >> Thank you. >> You know, you you work with a bunch of great people that >> Thank you. People don't realize they can be doing a water mane break that morning
and then plowing snow 12 hours later. We're very fortunate to have the work crew we have. >> But you did a great job this winter. You can go out holding your head high. >> Thank you. >> And uh you're out there. >> Appreciate that. >> But just think I live on Randolph V. I
went through a full major reconstruction and two road reservicing in the last 23 years. The state's done that road three times. One full reconstruction and two repaving. So, I'm very fortunate.
Seriously, to have that road done that many times. >> You're welcome. No, I'm just kidding. >> Well, I go to you, too. >> I'm joking. No, no, no, no, no. Not you. >> Seriously, >> not me. Sorry. I can't She's going to have to recuse herself. I can't help cracking down. >> But think about it. In 23 years, they've
done that road three times. There's a lot of traffic on the road, >> you know, and I'm just comparing that to some of our roads, you know, but you can go out holding your head high and like I said, none of this is your problem. You know what I mean? It's a town issue and
it's been around been known for a while, you know, but thank you. >> Thank you very much, >> Mr. Motion on this way. So, so the same I told you in your office last week, >> take this winter and put a notch in your gun belts. That's a good thing. So
>> I think that's why she got a new job. >> Yeah. You know how like >> No, it >> it's a lot of work and >> Yeah. >> We are very grateful for your service. >> Thank you. >> The the crew is amazing. You you all are very lucky. You have a very good team.
It's it was great working with Nick. Nick, it was always a great sounding board. >> We'll see. >> Um and um just a a great group of folks. Uh very proud to say that I was part of the team and you're in excellent hands
here with Darwin and Sky. Um again, just the entire team. >> Is he in the sky? >> In the sky. >> I'm still here. >> So, thank you. >> Wonderful. Thank you both very much. We've Mr. Hart's been waiting here for
our next item for two hours. So, let's uh we'll move along. But again, >> all of the questions will be offline. Yes, >> I I do have some, but I'm gonna I'll just shoot you guys an email. >> Okay. >> Very very intriguing. >> Great. >> No, it's okay.
>> What is it? A 629 ran off back office on the right. >> Actually, when I was in the It's so bright now compared I was describing to her what your office used to look like under a couple directors. Oh my god.
>> All right, so we are going to move. >> Thank you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you all. >> Uh our next item uh number eight, discussion update from the equity and justice for all advisory committee and we have Mr. Chris Hart here uh from that committee. >> Very much Mr. Chair. Good evening
everyone. >> Good evening. >> I'm very happy to both wait my turn and to listen in. >> Municipal government at its finest. Now, I'm very happy to be here this evening um um uh as the uh chair of the Equity
and Justice for All Committee. Um this is the latest in several conversations that um we've been having uh since at least the fall um uh regarding uh primarily uh the recommendations and the state of the recommendations that the
equity and justice committee provided in its report uh in 2021. Um, in the fall, just as way of table setting and reminder, uh, for this board as well as for anybody watching, um, uh, in the fall, I presented the members of board
with a just a list of recommendations that was, um, taken from the full report that was provided. um a subcommittee of um the select board um as well as myself
met to discuss how we can maybe tear that down into a manageable set of recommendations for discussion. Um that's what you have uh in front of you now. I sent that uh on Sunday. Um and I'm happy to to use this as a basis for
discussion. a couple of other updates and and maybe one way of framing the conversation. Um, one update is um that uh we're down to eight members. I think we might even be down to seven. There might be either a pending resignation
um uh or not. And the uh I think the maximum number is 11. Um obviously and and reappointments will come uh over the summer. Um, from my perspective, having a full board is important. A full committee is important. The this should be a cross-section of the town talking
about, I think, fairly important issues. And I think as an advisory committee to this board, having a full uh fully staffed committee, I think, is probably going to provide the select board in the town with the most value. So, I would encourage the select board to um uh if we have enough applicants to maybe
consider whether we should make new appointments and if we don't, maybe we can figure out how to get more applicants. So, that's one issue. Um the other is um I don't necessarily have an ask uh coming out of this meeting other than that we continue to have a
conversation. My hope is that um this pairing down gives us something that we can shoot at. The point here from my perspective um on behalf of the equity and justice for all committee uh is that we move the ball forward in implementing
actionable recommendations. It's been five years now. Obviously the landscape has changed. Uh there may be things that the select board wants to focus on or the equity and justice committee has not um uh but that is the purpose here is that we can get to actionable actionable
items. So with that I'm happy to um uh answer questions or follow the discussion. >> Thank you very much. Uh questions or comments from members? Much of this I'm aware at least for me much of this I'm aware of the five years
into this five years at least for me in my at least my prior life especially on the back page from hiring and diversifying of departments on a during chiefs before me my time in
the county hiring in the civil service committ. It's a very difficult thing right now because it's like a it's been a couple ops just in the past week. There's like a national crisis including nationwide trying to get people in the police profession. It's
very difficult. >> But there there were some definitely some points well. If I can respond a couple comments. I think it's I think it's uh something that we identified as well and it was it felt like an interactable problem then when it came to police and fire in particular uh given civil service and it
feels like one now. the recommendation uh that we've um continued to identify as a priority in this paired down list and this these are the priorities right which is not to say that we've abandoned the rest but rather that we want to make sure that um that we're focused is to have a stand standing committee of some
kind that continues to liaz with police and fire um on these issues. What that standing committee looks like um we're open to to discuss. It could be a a joint standing committee between the select board and the equity and justice
committee. Um but somebody or somebody that interfaces to essentially continue to make sure that we can have a dialogue with both both police and fire so we can find out what the gaps are where we can be helpful and and maybe you know I I understand that these are some of these
issues are outside of the control um police and fire but some of them may not be and so what I think would be a mistake would be to continue to take snapshots in time because then we'll never move the ball forward that way. Um I think we'll need to have a continued dialogue. The other thing I forgot to
mention in part of my table setting comments is that one of the questions that I received in the fall was um are are we only talking to the select board and I think I had mentioned that we were creating leaison to talk to the other board. Those meetings have happened and they're continuing to happen. So we're
starting to have I think a pretty good um uh cadence of meetings with the the other elected boards. uh questions or thoughts from the members? I have my own, but I you know, >> need a motion. Um, I don't think we need
a motion, but I think probably what we ought to do is just look through this um quickly and see if there are um I you know there are going to be some items that we may want to revisit uh you know at a future time with when we've all had
a little more thought. But I think some of these are probably actionable at least that we can start asking folks to do certain things. And um so if there are no objections, I think maybe we could >> I just have a quick question. Are these
are these so these recommendations are these um items that currently are not happening? >> That's right. >> Okay. At all. >> Um that's well >> or is like some of it like hey do more of this. >> Well I'll give it let's give me a
concrete example. So the first one, the very first one on page one, uh, townwide DEI statement and policy, uh, etc. The report had a proposed policy. Um, I received a propos a different proposed policy from Mr. Milano in January. Um,
there are iterations of a policy that have been out there that have never been, to my knowledge, implemented. So some of these may reflect some work that has been done. Another, I think, is coming into compliance with 40B. Well, you know, we're working on that. Um uh
but there are others where um it's not really clear that uh that any work has been done. We've had conversations um with the subcommittee around um uh a DEI dashboard for example. Um there's some merit there are some issues um but
we haven't really moved that forward. Um so so in and some of these are my perspective. So, >> please. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I think for some of this for me and it I think I think the list is good. I think for some of
this for me, it's like kind of getting to a level of specificity of like what do we mean by a townwide DEI statement and policy? Like what what are like the minimum criteria for such a policy, right? And if we have some floating
around, you know, are is there one that that meets the criteria that we could just approve? Like why haven't we approved it yet? Um and also too, you know, with um
you know, the the dashboard like the state of DEI to the town like is that can that be something as simple as just what is the composition of our workforce
and having that reported on and a statement of what that reflects. So, I don't know if I'm being clear, but um I think scoping is
to me like most challenges come down to, you know, a matter of scoping appropriately, but is there a way we can we can get to that or or come to a and are you saying that you think we should determine the appropriate scope?
>> So, um well, let's let Mr. start responding on my thought. >> So, um I I'm I'm happy to do whatever be most effective for the board. Um the the equity and justice committee because it's an advisory board, all we can do is recommend advice. >> Um but um if there are spe my my goal
here, what would be great is if this board were to say, you know what, there are these three things that we think we can accomplish between now and the next meeting in May. >> So, let's do those three things. Let's let's vote on a policy by May. let's come up with what a dashboard's going to look like by May, you know, and let's do
one other thing. That would be great. Uh and then we can focus on that as a as a committee, come back with very specific recommendations, make those votes, and then work on the next thing. That might be a way >> because we may have divergent w with things like this like we might we may have a divergent view on definition of
success or completion, right? That I just want to call out. >> You have to go now. >> Yeah. >> Take a medication. Pardon me. Um, >> I have to see you. >> I'll do it later.
>> I'll pass out. I'm Mr. Walls. >> So, I'm just I want to wait till you were done. Are you done? No, >> I'm done. I'm done. >> So, just two points. So, I I agree with M. So, just a couple points because I'm near the end here. No. Um, so in the photo beginning category, you know,
we've done a lot. We're so close to being a compliance. me will you actually had a talk with a developer today who don't where not not a hu but it it would be enough that would if approved it would give us in that over 11% you know
would be in that um and I I I do have to give a shout out to specifically the police department because and I say this I said this in an immigration speech I gave last week the most diverse areas I know of public
policing. I don't know anywhere like my wife from the Cambridge police, they speak 35 languages. You got to speak at least 10 or eight. I mean, the police department that I joined in 1984 such a different reflection of what this community and and not to say, and I
don't say it that it's not always an issue, but you've got to give Chief King and the and the team like they've done really an amazing job. Um, and I'm not taking any credit for it because I know what went on in my own 10 years, but
it's been at the forefront long before this committee even started. And if you go to any roll call, you see who's standing on details, you see the makeup of the of the men and women make that police department. They are they are not to say again, you have to forget about
they are a reflection of what this community is. And and I have to give some credit to them because those aren't easy things to do. It's hard to recruit and hire a diverse workforce and I give them a shout out for donor because as you know you see the people who get hired each and every day from the young
cadets who come in the patrol officers. So that that those two things I want to because this board worked really hard and especially in my first five years here. Um we went through some really tough 40 projects which are completed in the process of being completed and
almost and it took us from I think I came in we were 4.9 and we're like just under 10 now like we're almost there. So that's you got to give people who made that happen some credit because those were hard here. I mean, we had some nights in this room where it was
absolutely packed and a lot of but we knew it was going to happen and we're going to do it. And so that's just my I I understand this is an ongoing issue and always will be but I think you have to give credit to the people who really done a lot to try and work on this issue
and have got positive results from. >> So let me make a comment to that and may I can make a couple of concrete suggestions to move this forward. So um uh one of the things that impressed me I was on the subcommittee with regard to police and fire when the when the
original report was drafted and Chief King and Chief Madden always made themselves available. They were always honest. We had long conversations and I very much appreciated that. Um so I have no doubt about their sincerity, their commitment um uh and uh the the work
that that both do. But I think both two things can be true at the same time. That can be true. It can also be true that we need to have some kind of continued dialogue to make sure that we're moving the ball forward on on DEI. And I know you would agree with that. >> I do agree. >> Yeah. Um and that might be one thing that we could that that that strikes me
as low hanging fruit. So having some kind of standing committee there. A policy is low hanging fruit. I think we can we can do that. A dashboard might take a little bit more time, but I think I think could be something that we could that we could probably achieve. um having some kind of report of the state
of DEI to the town in addition that to the dashboard I think would be something that could be something we can achieve. Let's focus on those for the next 30 days or however long until the May meeting after there's an election. Um to have to to to
take the temperature on those actually try to get that that work done have a conversation again to see where those are and then work on the next set of priorities. If I can make that suggestion >> you can you can make any suggestion. >> I've now made it. Um, so I I just want
to just a couple of quick thoughts uh as well. So when we talk about DEI, we don't just mean racial, you know, equity. We mean LGBTQ. We mean religious equity. >> It's very broad. >> It's a very broad. So we can feel like
we've done a great job on a DEI front in a certain way. Um and then at the same time we haven't you know expanded women's access for example or we haven't uh you know so there there are you know you can make progress but you also have to make sure that you and that's where I
think a townwide statement really comes in handy because it helps us kind of keep in mind the bigger broader picture of of what DEI is. Um and I think that that is something that we should work on. Um, and uh, you know, not to take away the work from of anyone who has um,
you know, take away from the work that people have done, but this town has been dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line uh, for affordable housing. And the reason that we are being dragged kicking and screaming across uh, the finish line is because we have failed
for 40 years to come up with a comprehensive plan for affordable housing. And so we have had these 40bs for voiced upon us because of our inaction. So, while we've been trying to do, I think, a good job of dealing with our inaction at this point, um it's it's
not I don't know I don't know that I would celebrate uh inaction and and the the fact that we have these big 40b projects uh because we failed to come up with a plan uh for years and years and years. So, that said, I agree with Mr. Hart on this. I also agree that I think
DEI, you know, as an issue is probably going to be looked at differently by different members of this board, but I think it's a very important thing to try to get started. And I know that you've drafted a an initial statement. I know that we've looked at uh comparable statements from other towns. Um and I
think it might be worthwhile uh next at our next meeting to as an agenda item revisit you know circulate the draft statement from um the the committee to this body give people a chance to have a
uh you know think about whether they want to make edits changes or anything like that. Um I don't see why we couldn't vote on that next week. >> Mr. um may I I I love that idea. I would agree with that idea. I think that there's one uh the long pole in the
tent, the thing that might be holding everything up there is I understand that there might need to be council review of the of the policy. So, >> and we probably need to do first and second. I I think it probably needs to be alongside um this because um uh or or
even understanding what the art of the possible is uh with legal counsel uh making edits and then seeing if there are any issues raised um I think will be important. So I defer to you and Mr. Milano in terms of how you want to handle the conversation with council.
>> So I think what we could do and Mr. Milano or anybody else could could could jump in if if uh I'll just finish this thought, Mr. Wells, and then I'll I'll turn it over to you. We could at least start the ball rolling next week of an initial review and then kicking things
to general counsel, kicking them, you know, to a first and second reading. But I think we need to have if we don't take a concrete first step, then we won't take any steps at all. Um that's my opinion. Mr. Wells, >> you and I aren't going to be able to have a first and second reading. I know.
Oh, I take it. This was drafted by an attorney. So, that's So, I'm sure you had your attorney's hat on. >> Well, that was the the one I drafted, but then there was there's a second one. I can't account for that. So, it look fine to me. >> So, has town council seen this?
>> No, perhaps in the past, but not since um not recently. Um and not current town council for that matter. So I'll I think it's also helpful to be very clear about which policy we're talking
about because there's one that was drawn in 22 by the consultant that and I don't I think the committee had looked at one as well. So I just want to make sure >> many drafted one. >> Okay. >> Um and I you sent me one in January >> that an internal >> employee group had been looked at.
That's right. Which I think is maybe the latest that was um that was worked on. Um I I'll say from my perspective um I think it probably checks the boxes. Um but I but it needs to be vetted both from a policy perspective as well as
from a legal perspective. >> Internal referial one that Mr. sent back to you comments. >> Yes, there were no comments. It it was a new policy. Let me let me back up. >> Change. That's right. Yeah. Let let's let's I think for purposes of this
discussion I think we can assume that the the one that we are working with is the one drafted by the consultant as the one as opposed to the one drafted by the committee >> Mr. Wells >> Mr.
feasible you think Tom had enough time have a special meeting actually just a quick day perhaps >> I don't >> I mean I know I know next Tuesday is our
last meeting but we're still in office until >> 28th >> just I'm just I'm just I don't even know whether I'm just >> I'm trying to give everybody a piece of >> town council will be at our meeting next week as well that helps but that's just
>> I I appreciate appreciate what you're saying as well. I think that might be a good next step is we can still discuss it at our next meeting, have town council review, and then from that discussion, we can decide whether or not we wanted to go on to have a special
meeting prior to the election to approve or at least to encourage the approval of by a future select board or we can decide that we'll let the next iteration of the select board make up its mind about that. Um
the chair if if the board members feel that and if that is viable alternative. >> So let's why don't we plan on at least if you could Mr. Milano circulate that
draft back to this board. um circulate it back to uh the committee so that they're also they have a chance to look at it and and add any thoughts that they might have. I don't know if you guys are going to be able to have a meeting before. >> It may or may not happen, but I don't think that's going to hold it up.
>> Okay. Um and then uh we can decide uh you know next week what we think the the next steps are, but I think we probably should have it as an agenda item for discussion. >> Okay. >> And then we'll and then having something concrete that the members can react to.
I think will be helpful. I I do worry that >> if don't then a new boards compromise start again and then just push back. >> We can be squeaky wheels.
>> Oh, I know. We're used to squeaky wheels. Yeah, but I'm I'm just I'm just trying to >> I appreciate it. >> Yeah. No, I appreciate that as well. Um and then in terms of the um so some of these recommendations I think are
specifically for other boards to consider like the schools um school committee should be looking at the school's recommendations. Um >> but we're always happy for select boards input. >> Uh always happy to give input as well. Um I think the standing committee regarding diversity and and I'm assuming
that's police and fire department hiring. Um, is there a reason why we wouldn't include other town departments in that specifically like or I I can't think of a of any of any
particular reason not to. I think I the question that raises is who should which should be the voices in that room. I mean, the reason that the recommendation I, if I recall, it's been some time, I think the reason the recommendation was framed with this language was precisely
because it wasn't clear who should be in that room. >> Um, so I certainly think a member of the select board, certainly think the chiefs. Um, and then and then the question is, you know, beyond that, who should be? >> Yeah. Uh, because I, you know, I I
appreciate that. I also wouldn't want to make police and fire feel like they are being singled out for >> of course >> um you know particular behavior that may be evident in other school departments. >> No, it would it would I the way I would think about the category here is the reason that we singled out police and
fire is because of their their particular um hiring practice under civil ser the civil service law um and um and some of the limitations that were and as well as the the uh union contracts that they're a part of. So that so put them in a separate category.
So as long as if we're thinking about hiring from the perspective of categories that are similar to or the same as police and fire, I think that's fine. But if we're if we're putting in other departments where it's not analogous, it might not be as helpful. >> I I I hear what you're saying and it
makes sense to me. Um do we have examples of committees like that and in other towns that we could use? >> I'm not I'm not aware of it. I'm not I I wasn't aware of one um when we were doing this research. I'm not aware of one now. Uh doesn't mean one doesn't
exist. Um it would it might be it might very well be that we'd be creating precedent. Um but um I'd be happy to look that up um and have a discussion at the next meeting. I think that would be helpful because we'd also want to have I I would want to make sure that Chief
Madden and Chief King had a chance to kind of input on what this committee looked like um as well because they Mr. Driscoll sorry I I don't understand without civil service you scored the highest M points you you go to the
process of getting hired. Um >> I don't know why you're trying to say that it's not right. >> I So there there a couple of issues. The first is that it was not entirely my understanding that it was it was that straightforward. And since our research
um in 2020 2021 um the way in which civil service works has changed um after the legislature created a standing committee to look at precisely this issue. So we haven't examined the question of uh police and
fire and what options they have with regard to diversity and hiring since then. Um, so I think that's that's part of the issue, but I've never understood the question to be that straightforward. >> I thought that's the way it is. >> I'm disagreeing.
>> I don't know. >> That's where I think having the chief chief's input would also be helpful because I think they would also be able to to shed some light on that on those policies. >> So you're saying an equity committee can decide who the fire department or the police are? >> That's not what I suggested. No.
Um what what I the it would be worth going back to the report. >> See I'm new at this so I don't understand you know >> but from what I understood my father was a fireman scored the highest on the test you got hired.
>> So you're trying to say that's flawed. >> Um what I'm trying to say is I don't think it precisely works that way. It may have worked that way in the past, but it may not be 100% that way in currently.
And that's not to it's that's just the the state of affairs currently as it is. It's not not reflective of whether or not we created this. >> But no equity committee would be the deciding factor who gets hired, right? >> No. >> No. No. >> More of a >> Yes.
>> Civil service would there's we would have to leave civil service in the first place. I I would also note that, you know, an a written exam may not be the best metric to use to evaluate who would be the best police officer, who who would be the best um firefighter. So, I
think that is certainly a place to have a conversation about. Um and the law actually Cody when he worked at the legislature worked on the commission and and ultimately changed some of the ch um procedures around hiring under civil service and we are we have requested
from um the state to set up the alternative list um for police um and are looking at doing so as well. So there's there's different pathways to look at now. So it's it's a broader it sounds like a broader conversation about what are the benefits or the limitations and what are best kind of steps or best
procedures moving forward on that specific example for police and fire. I think it was called out at the time when the report was being done there was a lot of discussion about hiring practices and diversification of public safety. So I assume that's where the original focus came from and but since then there have
been a lot of changes that it's worth talking about. >> Yeah. And and that's that's part of that's part of what this reflects is that is that we because this that was a snapshot in time. Um and I'm and I'm happy to know that we have learning here that we can draw from. Um we haven't
since updated and I think that will take some work, but I also again I think it's one of those one of these things where taking sort of periodic snapshots isn't going to be helpful to the town. Um, I do recall now that you mentioned this, I do recall that we took a serious look at
whether we should recommend leaving civil service for precisely this reason and we decided not to. And I think that was one of the things that animated the recommendation of having a standing committee um, is to look more closely at the issue, especially in light of the recommendations coming out of the legislature.
>> Mr. Dailyaly, oh, sorry, >> I learned you're going to close Chickbit and now this. They're >> not closing Chick, >> Mr. daily. >> I leave um uh further comments until uh we I see that policy that's being
circulated. I am very um cautious and mindful about uh what the EI statements say as well as how what's in that statement is executed. I think to John's point, one of the main ideas around DEI
that's been muddied is that it's not about who gets the job, it's that who's even asked to apply. I believe Richard Wid has shared his experience with hiring officers of color in the police force. Um, it's also I know in Boston they have sort of their junior firefighters who
were allowed to go into the pool. you are scored on not only your civil service test but as well as your you know veteran status, family residency. So there are a lot of factors that go into it. So I believe when we're talking about a DEI statement here in Milton, it's about who we're even asking to
insert themselves into the pool before we even get to the piece on who gets hired. I don't know much about uh the rest of it. I have not been in that world. But I think that's an important piece for us to really put the context around what these
statements are about. It is about who we are inviting and who feels included and who is now more welcome into whether it is police, fire generally in the community. That's kind of the purpose of these statements. So I'll wait to see what you send around Nick and have some
comments on that. I I agree with that and and I would say just to add one more thought u from my perspective it's um it's a necessary floor of accountability uh but will never be sufficient.
>> So the police department so Mr. So the police department seeing this 30 years ago joined two other agencies, Boston and Cambridge and passed chapter 127 which did cadet law which allowed you to go
out and recruit young men and women communities outside of allowed you to use that system to diversify the recruitment of who you
hire which not just um the start of that I mean it's start with Chief King who's cadet I mean you go all the way down I mean the men and women so many of the young men and women who are in that job today I mean our marriages with the I mean it's
it's I'm proud of it I mean I know and I know they because when I walk away and I look at makeup of that police department and the makeup of this community. That body reflects the community more than any other department. It's just it's you
go to roll call and roll call is made up of in and not just color in language and speech in every LBG2 all of that is something that not to say you can say it's not a box you check it's a
philosophical way you look at who you hire and who you put in the role to police your and I'm just g I'm sure you would agree with You could take that example and cod it to the whole but that's a hard
so that's why I don't want to make it I I wanted to say reflect on the positives because we have um done a lot of good things not just in my time but she's performing a very proud of what they do and they know
they know they they know they make up So I think um if I'm reading the uh room correctly, we could next week look at a statement and policy at least to begin the discussion there. Um my it seems like
the committee is probably going to fall to the next iteration of the select board to think about because I do think you're going to have to get a couple of more folks to input before we can set something up. Um that said, I will leave
it to the three members of this body uh to continue that work um which I think we all believe is important um to the town to make sure that we have uh a representative, fantastic, you know, highly qualified
and representative um you know off set of officers, set of firefighters um people across town. Um any objections to the to that Mr. Hart? Does that sound like a good path forward to you? >> It sounds like a good path forward.
>> Okay. And we'll look forward to um you your committee's input as well if you want to uh as policy. >> Sure. And and I'll be happy to come to that meeting or have >> I'll be happy to come to that meeting or to have uh somebody from the committee
come if that would be helpful. >> That would I'm sure be helpful. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you all. Well, I appreciate your time. >> So, very well. >> All right. Um, and Mr. Dailyaly, I also know that you had hoped to be on the road at this point. Um, and, uh, coming
home from your, um, proud parent experience. Um, and just want to let you know that anytime that you want to drop off, feel free to do that. >> Well, I'll be on for the next couple items and then I will be 95. But, thank
you. >> Okay. We will try uh to make the next few items as quick as possible. Uh Mr. Milano, we have a letter to the Massachusetts State Lottery Commission regarding a request for a keto monitor at the Milton Food Mark 133 appropriately.
>> Uh yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, we received or the select board members actually received a a letter in your email um that there's been a request to install a Kino monitor, which would be a Kino screen essentially at the Milton Food Mart. um which would allow um
customers to um not only buy a keynote ticket, which you can in in a number of stores in Belton, but to actually to watch games um and the request from the letter was that if there was any objection to that um to state uh the town's object objection in writing um by
Friday um this Friday, April 10th. Um so was asked to include this on the agenda for the board's discussion. um to my knowledge that there is no other monitor elsewhere in town an actual screen but um I may be mistaken in that assumption
>> Mr. So I believe in I mean I I get it. Soon as I saw it I'm like oh I think it was like a unanimous objection. >> Um I don't know that this board is going
to be much different from that. I personally feel that gambling is a scourge uh on people and particularly people get up in their phone tuna. >> Yeah. >> I I don't think we should be doing anything in this town that furthers the
um that massive industry. Uh Mr. Daly, you have your hand up. >> Yeah, I I asked Nick to add this to our agenda. I'm in I'm in line with the board. I don't think this is necessary. I don't think the Milton Food Mart reached out to us asking for it specifically. As John just said, folks
can look at it online. There are a lot of other spaces. it doesn't hinder them from playing keynote, but having that standing screen and kiosk, I think is, you know, it's a little too much in uh in profiting off folks' vices. So, um I
would not want to have this uh installed. >> So, I'll take that as a motion. >> Okay. Motion's been made and seconded um to send a letter uh uh rejecting uh the request or or the keynote monitor. Uh, if there's
no further discussion, um, we'll do have a roll call vote. Mr. Dailyaly, >> yes. >> Mr. Driscoll, >> yes. >> Mr. Wells. >> Integrity. >> Yes. >> And myself? Yes. >> Um, then, uh, item number 10, we have discussion, update, approval. East Milton Fire Station RFP and appraisal
report. Mr. Milano. >> Uh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. A couple updates. Uh, we did receive the appraisal report which was um sent in the packets. Um u let me review that closely. But um the bottom line is in
terms of a sale, they value the property at $900,000. In terms of a lease, the appraiser valued it at $62,000 um annual potential fair market rent. Um they did note that in terms of the rental payment um their expectation
would be that would be a minimum of a 15-year lease with up to I'm sorry minimum of a 10-year lease with up to three five year options. So, um, given that that potential land, uh, tenant, you know, the runway to make the improvements that would be necessary and
the fit out that would be necessary and having, um, a long duration lease in that building because of, as the appraisal report noted, the work that would be required. Um they valued highest and best use as a restaurant on the first floor with um residential on the second and maybe additional third
floor residential which would be allowed under the overlay zoning for the East Milton mixed use district. Um there would be challenges around parking of course um but that was the basis of the appraisal report. I did as well
circulate um some comments the planning board shared regarding the RFP itself um which um board could look at. I know we're um busy with this evening's meeting. We could certainly take this back up if everybody wanted a week to
look at everything and look at it um for potential approval. >> I think without objection, I think we could move this to next week because I I have a feeling this might require some discussion. >> Is that fine? >> Yeah. >> All right. So, >> if there are any questions on the appraisal itself, um they've been very
responsive. So, any questions? I'm I'm This is version three just based on some back and forth that I've had with them. So, if there's any questions about the appraisal report, I can get answers prior to Tuesday. I'll recirculate both RFP the appraisal and uh plan for comments as well to members. >> Thank you, Mr. Daily. You have your hand
up. >> Yeah, I'm I'm okay with moving this to next week as well. I would just uh encourage my fellow members to just take a look in that appraisal report to the um the like properties that they referenced. I thought those were really
interesting because when I saw this appraisal of 900,000, I was really disappointed um in that number, but they do an excellent job of breaking down why that is and also putting it in context of similar properties in other towns.
Also, the rent the rent number was also a little disappointing. I think they had it at 625 uh per year. And I think that also connects to the to some of the planning board comments where one was to not have in the RFP to not have it for sale and
only for um lease. But I would be of the mind, and again, we'll discuss this next week. I just wanted to say this now um before I jump off. I'm of the mind that we still need to leave that RFP broad to see um what uh offers we would get.
>> Yeah. Thank Thank you, Mr. Dailyy. I I agree with you on both counts. I think this will be a longer discussion for next week. Um and I agree with your sentiments. So, Mr. Wells, >> it is right in line with where I recall when we were buying the synagoguous property. Um I don't know the company
Web Collins worked for. his company did an eval and it's right there. It was like 950 then and that's like five years ago. So it's right >> they it didn't do the lease option but to did do the it was right there.
The only concern I have with um with leaving things broad to either a purchase or a lease is um >> I just so we are going to discuss this next week. So I might ask my concern.
>> I'm with you. I'm with >> you'll have a chance to state that in in detail I think next week. >> Um so >> thinking of you. Uh yes, I I am I've got several sleepy members on my board and I try to try to keep this as early as possible. >> I am awake.
>> I can tell Zero has got her. >> It's working tonight. >> Oh, great. Uh so we have item 11, committee report, select board finance committee, Milton Budget Coordination Committee, Miss Hagerty. >> Mr. Chair, before you long say I'm gonna
jump off, go to Waw Wa, get an energy drink and head back to Milton. But I'll see you all in >> He's down in Jersey. >> Safe travels, Mr. Dailyy. And we look forward to seeing you in person next week. >> Pops. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But they have really good like deli and
>> sandwiches. >> It's like a cult like Yeah. >> Does anyone want a fire station? That would be combining too many weird parts of my life. >> All right, Miss Heardy. All right, your
uh finance committee and the coordination committee. Okay. So, there's not a lot to report on the finance committee because we're getting we're we've done all of our budget work uh for the select board. But, uh for the budget coordination committee, uh we the
work has continued um on our examination of aligning the budget development calendar across the town school committee, warrant committee. Um that is coming along nicely. And then we spent in our last meeting,
we spent a decent amount of time um conversing on what I would I would call like a gut check on various forecasts for getting out to FY30
um before having another override. um just really digging deep into um you know where various areas of growth have been and what it's going to take to get there. Um I think it's a
very good conversation that and one that we should continue to have year overyear to manage everybody's expectations on spending um and growth. Um and we our plan is to continue doing
that and to provide um provide everyone with a report on that. >> Wonderful. Uh any questions from the remaining member? >> No. Uh okay. Uh so let's move along then
to item 12. Um and um so this item number 12 is budget coordination committee charge composition. Uh and so this I I asked for this to be added to the agenda after speaking with
Mr. Walker uh who is our citizen representative uh to that committee. Um and he uh expressed and I agree with the sentiment that this um coordination committee has been a great success in terms of increasing
transparency in terms of uh helping the town project forward um beyond uh what we normally do and getting in front of earlier budget issues. So his his sentiment was that we should um up the
uh reup the coordination committee for another year I think with the still that we would be reviewing uh memberships I think would be expiring at the end of June so that would still be up to the future select board in terms of who's being appointed to it. U Mr. Malone from
the process perspective >> and no if unless the board were to vote to extend the term the the committee is scheduled to sunset at the end of this fiscal year. So the board could at any time extend that term and as you indicate the members would still be subject to appointment or reappointment at a later date.
>> So my suggestion might be and I appreciate your as our representative there. Um seeing as this committee is trying to look forward to 2030 that it might make sense to have this committee extended to 2030 so that we continue to
do that work. We don't have to continue to uh reup it uh every year. >> No, I do. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Do you have any any >> No, I just I really think so. It's it's
been a I think a very good fruitful process for everyone involved over the past how many months is feels like it's only been you got started in what? >> August. August. >> So like nine months. Um,
these are these are important conversations where people get on the same page andor air out disagreements. Um, and again, sort of relating to my prior report,
we've just kind of gotten into the place where we're digging into aligning some calendars. Uh, Mr. Walker's been great because he's been able to um show us the way that
prior warrant committees and school committees have aligned calendars. Um, and I really do think that these conversations around various drivers of budget growth. I think those conversations need to
happen annually so everybody sees in real time together where we're headed so we can make these decisions. like we will we will not get I don't think we will get to 2030 if we don't keep having these conversations
>> right so Mr. Wells is >> by Mr. Any further questions, comments, discussions? >> Get to 2030, but you're going to much bumper road. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> It will be a bumpy road, but I mean it's
going to be hard. >> And it's just one of those things. If this smooths out that conflict, I think it's worth the time putting it in. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> I don't know if Mr. Driscoll has anything. >> No. So this is
you're like a the warrant committee than your group. Your group did a great job. It saved a lot of issues with the schools. You worked very good with them. You came to a resolution. So it's sort of like a a stop gap I guess, right?
>> Yeah. or just like a forum for I mean it's really interesting to me and I don't want to get too far into it because it is late but you know a lot of big organizations like ours like you have like top down like you just do what the boss says we've got like five
different bosses who can do their own thing like it's it's crazy. So in order to have like strong governance in that type of situation, all the people with their you know lever they can pull their power
that they have like we all have to like be on the hook together and accountable to the public and I think that's that's what the committee does. >> It's working good. I just trying you know >> the people question >> the the the committee itself doesn't really have any authority
>> which is the beautiful part of it like we >> place to sort of yeah it's working great >> okay >> that's one of the things people ask me well you got the warrant committee now this >> and you said well it's working >> we're just bringing everyone to the
table warrant committee still does what they need to do and this committee has no actual authority So um then maybe just for the sake of clarity for the motion we say about 2030
>> and then again future boards can decide to continue this uh if they wish. >> Um okay so for no no other discussion uh we are now all in person so we can just vote collectively. All in favor I do
um Mr. Milano, do we? >> Uh, no we do not. >> Get ready for town meeting. >> Any updates on the town meeting? >> Uh, yes, we included the warrant in the packet. Um, except for the warrant
committee comments which have been where were submitted uh last night. Final proofing is happening. So, I'd be looking for the select board to approve the warrant itself uh this evening. >> I will take Motion >> seconded.
Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor is fiscal year 25 annual report. for those three of things that I couldn't remember
>> and it's an interesting walk down like the memory lane for it was only last year. >> Um so I will take a motion to approve Second further discussion all in favor
for discussion approval committee appoints and millet to the multicultural council for three term >> second. Okay, motion's been discussion approval. Um,
>> historical uses estate located 1424 camp nav. >> Second, the American Revolution Saturday, June 13, 2026, 6 p.m. 7:30 p.m. David Chestnut Jazz Festival, Saturday, August 8, same location. August 8, 2026, 2 p.m. to 7 p.m. Linder
Lee Sherman from Mil Music Fest to June 20th 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. and June 21st 12:00 p.m. 600 p.m. at Hutcherson Field and Mil Academy located 170 Senn Street 2026 reunion May 15th 2026 6 p.m. to
9:00 p.m. 2026 reunion May 16th 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. >> Um, can I I just want to do quick comments um before we get a second. Um, and you you will probably notice, Mr. Wells, uh, it sounded like the time for
the June 21st to this Sunday was different than >> I was actually going to ask that question. >> Look down. I You got it. I was just >> So, so we're going to make it amend my amend my motion. So, um, to 10 p.m.
>> I would say let's just because I want to have the application all match. So, why don't we just we'll just update it. We'll bring it right back next. Second >> further discussion I always say one time the David Chesn
really black member of our community that turned this last century. Um, and uh, I think everybody should know about having a festival is fantastic because that's where we work for most of this stuff. Now, we've got a motion and
seconded. Anybody else wants it? Wax. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Uh, item number discussion approval meeting 26th. Um, we can we'll have to take these.
>> So, we'll make a motion for the 24th 2026 to March. >> Okay, I'll make a motion now. Make a second all >> make a motion to approve the meeting minutes dated March 10th, 2026. >> Second.
Second. All in favor? >> Yes. >> All right. Uh, okay. Town administrators report. Mr. >> Thank you. Uh, the town election coming up on April 2.
Yeah, April 28th. Um, if folks do want to apply to vote by mail, those applications can be taken and submitted. Now, we don't have in-person early voting for municipal elections, but you can vote by mail. Um, you just need to apply and then we'll need to return the
ballot by 8:00 p.m. on the day election. Um, but you can do that through the um town clerk's website and submitting the application. The community preservation committee um round of um grant review will start in the summer, but the first step in that um process is to submit an
eligibility application. Those are due at the end of May. Additional information, the application is available on the town website. The committee is also seeking the services of a um few hours a week, not a lot of hours per year. But if you're looking
for a small um part-time job on the side, they're looking for an a clerk or an assistant to help uh with their meetings and some of the paperwork that associates with the committees. That application um and job opening is up on the town website alongside a few others
across town. Um, and then lastly, I just wanted to recognize the service of Walter White, who um, retired from the Milton Planning Building Department, excuse me. Um, after having worked here since, I'd say 2013, I believe, and having previously retired from the city
of Quinzy. So, Welter, um, did two stints as interim commissioner uh, in the past couple of years. Um and both him and Jay Gulio um really stepped up when the town was out with uh searching and trying to hire a building
commissioner. So uh for his many years of service um and stepping up when we asked for help uh thank you Walter and uh congrats on being retirement number two for real this time and I know he'll be uh paying attention to all things Milton as he always does. So just wanted to acknowledge his service.
>> Thank you Mr. Wayne. Um, from the chair's report, uh, I have three items and I promise they will be fast. Um, want to congratulate, uh, Milton High School Theater, uh, who won the state championship again. That's the second year in a row. Uh, I said this the last
time when we were celebrating the girls hockey team. We are the town of champions uh, in all sorts of different ways. U, we are lucky to have the schools that we have and we are lucky to have uh, the theater department that we have in this particular instance. So, congrats to the cast, crew, directors,
and everybody else that was involved in that production, which was uh really compelling. Um, second, I think for historical purposes, I would just like to note that Artemis has just circled the moon and I feel like we have not really paid attention
to it. And I would like to acknowledge that um is really the p like the peak of humanity and our capabilities is what we can do when we work collectively in in that way. And I think you know in the future someone may look at the minutes
of this meeting and say my god they were talking about flying to the moon uh and now we live on the moon or they may say can you imagine we used to fly around the moon. Um, either way, I'd like to have it in the minutes uh noted that uh that that it's happened and just acknowledge it's not
>> the pictures are really cool. >> The pictures are amazing. They're incredible >> and uh and the sentiments of the crew have been f fabulous. So, um congrats. Not that we have much to do with that, but um congrats anyways. Uh and the third and I I just want to say more
solemn uh item is that uh last week there was a there was a theft of a number of campaign signs for a particular candidate. I'm not going to talk about names uh because I think that's less important than I I just want to recognize that when people volunteer
to run for town office, whatever that office is, they work very hard to try to get elected. They have they ask their friends, they ask their families for small gifts and donations to help them purchase things like yard signs and advertisements that there was a
coordinated effort uh to attack a single candidate. Uh I think Brownley deserves condemnation. Um, I think we anyone who is involved in that needs to have a serious moment of reflection about whether they enjoy living in a republic where dissenting voices are allowed and
where where we can have an exchange of ideas uh in in in the intellectual marketplace or if you really believe that we live in a us versus them uh dog eat dog kind of world. I don't believe that we do. I believe that we are better
than that. I believe we can set much better examples for our children and I hope that that is the last instance of uh vandalism which and this is it is a crime uh to occur around a town election. I think please take the
temperature down if you were involved in this. Please have a moment of self-reflection and ask yourself what would you do uh if your if you found out that your child was inspired by this and started doing the same thing. it is not uh compatible with the democratic
republic that we live in and uh I hope that nothing like that happens again. Um that is my chair's report uh members report u Mr. address. Oh, thanks for bringing that up. Very good. Thank you. Hey, Nick, talking about traffic, I was
caught on Pleasant Street, the rubbish truck. Is there any way the next contract we can have them start like 6:00 a.m. get get the main roads done before the traffic? >> Uh, we can certainly ask that. And your mind >> because all the trucks are all modern. They don't make a lot of noise. You know
what I mean? They're all modern. They don't make noise like the old trucks. I know the city of Boston has started early and that's made a big difference. So, >> but I'm just thinking get the main roads done. >> Well, people like me running after the trash truck and their slippers, but
>> forgetting to put >> I always forget. >> I'm just saying >> husband's out of town. Yeah. No, I know it is. It's important >> to get them off the main roads and the school district >> looking at and having conversation. So, um just to to that point, um our our
hauler um Star Waste was purchased by Cassella um last week that came out last week. So, um no change operationally for Milton. Our contract is through fiscal 27. So, we're under contract for another year now with Cassella. Um so, we're planning to, you know, start having
conversations about what that renewal might look like. So, that's something we can put on the table for discussion um throughout that. >> Thank you. I just want to thank Richard Wells for all his service and years at the board and Ben again. Thank you.
Both did a great job. And uh thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. >> This ain't the last meeting. >> This is how I know, but I might ultimately forget >> the goodbye tour. >> I don't do goodbye. I already might be coming tonight. I said, "All right, I'll go tonight."
>> Um, thank you very much, Mr. Dristol. But yes, this is the penultimate. I I love the word penultimate. So whenever I can use it, I I will use it. Um anything else from the members? >> Um public comment response. I think we have responded during the discussion around uh the traffic calming. Uh we
have our future meeting scheduled for April 14th, 2026. Um organizational meeting April 29th or 30th. Uh and then u town meeting dates uh Wednesday May 6th, Thursday May 7th, Monday May 11th,
Tuesday May 12th, Wednesday May 13th. Um any other future agenda items uh from the members? No. Uh >> I do feel like we need to nail down a retreat date for June. And I think I
might have I don't know if I've gotten back to you, Nick, on some dates. Yes, if you you and John could both provide or we can talk about I heard from um Winston is only he's not available June 20th, but he's available the other
Saturday mornings in June um for a retreat date. >> If you want I can get you a tent on Saturday morning at Hfield. You can have your own tent >> serve serving.
>> All right. Yeah. So that weekend's out. All right. So, yeah, I'll I'll take an >> I'm open to the weekend. >> Okay. >> I'll double triple check. So, I don't Okay. >> Okay. But it's on me. Falls in my court. Yes. All right. Awesome. >> That's a problem.
>> Doesn't take all day and all night, right? >> No. No. I mean, it was the last one was maybe two hours after. I think we're done before that. >> Take the wife out every Saturday night. So, can't affect that. >> It would be We would be out of it. >> Yeah. It's a boarding exercise. Um, also for future agenda items, it's
not on uh I it needs to be on next week. Uh, is the town administrators um >> Yeah. No, I believe everybody. >> Um, okay. So, um, >> I uh, >> tell me, give me notice. So I'm going to
move that we enter into executive session to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining. Milton Clerical Unit of the Southeastern Public Employees Association, Milton Professional Management Association, Milton Public Employees Association, Milton Firefighters Local 116, Milton Police Off Milton Police Association,
Milton Superior Officers, Milton Library Association. Based on my belief that discussion of this matter in an open session may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining position of the select board, the select board will not return to open session. Second. >> Second. Okay. This is a roll call vote. U Mr. Driscoll.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Wells. Miss Hagerty. >> Yes. >> And myself? Yes. I will take a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> We can do this one the old fashioned way. All in favor? >> I. >> All right. We'll move into executive session. Thank you for joining us
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