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7:05 March 3rd 7 PM yep it's 7:05 now so we'll start the meeting nine participants and I'm going to go around and um introduce everybody um and I'll call on you so I'm Caroline canella I'm the health director
Laura I'm Laura Richards I'm the chair Mary I can't hear you Mary pardon me board member and secretary Mary Stenson Roan hi um Board of Health member
Jean Jean Peterson senior clerk Carolyn Carolyn ho I'm the health agent Lisa Stevens goodnight my name is Lisa Stevens goodnight I'm the director of Tobacco Control with the mass Municipal
Association thanks for joining us tonight Lisa appreciate it when anyone else like to introduce themselves um I think uh Dr Susan milin might be having some some technical issues can you hear us or can you I can hear you now can you
hear me good good yes all right Dr Susan mil and just interested party um recently retired and thought I could maybe help excellent thank you would anyone else like to introduce thems
tonight hearing no one else I will sorry Milow hey Deborah um so moving along I'm going to go to number two approval of the meeting minutes so these are the meeting minutes from January
6 if the board can take a look at those meeting minutes see anything that you like to change or ADD I had looked at those before I didn't see anything I was fine with them I looked at them this afternoon I'm fine
with them um I'm happy to make a motion to approve the minutes of January 6th half second all in favor I great thank you next uh is number three it's citizens
speak is there anyone who would like to speak have an opportunity to speak at this meeting now is your time to speak okay um I'd be glad to give a presentation at any time if anybody needs some information or anything a deep dive on
I'm I'm glad to help you guys and what's your specialty Susan I was a PCP Internal Medicine would anyone else like to speak the citizen speak I'll see no one we'll move along
to number four it's the Board of Health discussion of additional proposed regulation changes to the Board of Health regulations chapter five sale of tobacco products to Miners and chapter six Board of Health regulations smoking in the workplaces public places and
members membership Association and so we've had a couple of meetings already regarding our tobacco regulations and updating the tobacco regulations and Lisa Steven good night has been invaluable helping the Board
review the regulations but I can I can pull them up let's see I can pull up the regulations we can start on chapter five so we have chapter five and we have chapter six see I could share this here
okay this chapter five can everybody see that no oh yes okay bring it up to the top so uh Emily and I went through the regulations again to put into the regulations all the
changes um that the board would like to have on the regulations for chapter 5 if you go through it the regulations you'll see that there is one area that we had to kind of go back to that looks if I go down a little bit here I'll show you where it
is there it is right there so uh oral nicotine pouches can only be sold in adult only retail stores right now we don't have any adult only retail stores and we won't have any adults hopefully only retail
stores um but this is um was on the the regulations from the state um I guess my question to you Lisa is and I think I had said this before do you think we should leave that in there number G oral nicotine pouches can
only be sold in adult only retail stores retail tobacco stores yeah so if you don't have any retail tobacco stores um generally that one tends to get a lot of push back and may not be the best policy we have also had some towns um that have looked to that have put a limit on the
amount of nicotine that can be in a in a given pouch um so that and limited to either three or six grams um per pouch another Al that that has seemed popular with towns that don't have Ault only
store so that way uh especially like popular but product would be Avail people contents very concerned um wouldn't be as wouldn't be available so the it would just restrict the access to kind of the the more higher concern things while we
get more data on um on the the product itself so what's the name of the product that so there oral nicotine pouches is are the products overall um Zin is the most popular Zen and SN are the two most
pop sorry not SN Zen and Zen and on are the two most popular um Brands right now um but we've seen and one of the areas of concern is that we've seen some very high nicotine content products uh that are kind of like the off brand ones in
particular that go up to um as high like 28 or 30 milligrams per pouch which is very very high um Zen itself goes they kind of going in and out um I didn't hear how high Zin was sorry uh Zin goes up to nine um three and six are
the two amounts that have been um kind of approved for sale by the FDA recently so that's why those are the two numbers that are that have been put um that have been proposed I and I can the language very simple it just says that no product higher than a certain amount will be
sold in the town um so I can I can send over that language but it's it's just a a quick sentence that says that um and that just puts a little bit of a restriction on these products um that so that you're not getting the really high high nicotine
amounts being sold in your town how does the board feel about that putting in that language I think that would be great the language as it stands is that what you're saying that the number G leave it the way it is well
that um they limiting the would put the amounts of milligrams that are the lower ones um should send the language overe explaining that I guess my only thought would be um would it be better just to
leave it the way it is here I mean because right now then they can only be sold an adult only we don't have that and so um so just yeah so that's a good question Lisa um the question is I
believe they're selling Zen right now Carolyn is that true because you did the tobacco inspection are they selling the Zen right now in in the stores and the retail tobacco stores um I believe so I think the last
tobacco we did we do them annually it's coming up on a little over a year or it's coming up on like the one year since me and Emily did it but I believe we did see some um just like in the stores that do sell toac up here and there not like too too much it was
mostly the cigarettes um and Vapes and cigars I think but we did see some here and there so maybe it is a good idea to do then the amount she's pointing out um I think if we do that we would have to do some
education to the businesses about that as well so I mean I wouldn't I would I'm sorry I would want to make sure that we do that which I think is fine um but the amounts that we're also educating the business owners on that because I bet they have no
idea about you know that we're looking at the amount now looking at that that statement oral nicotine pouches can only be sold in ad delt only retail tobacco stores so is it like one or the other is it we don't put that language in there
but we do put the um the language about like no higher than six you could do both um as if you do the adult only you would be make Bas effectively Banning them in Milton um so
that's kind of the that's why we the the or the strength um is just another Avenue that especially for towns that don't have adult only stores we found um we found popular because it still provides this product which um you know
people are using so number G is more restrictive and and it have to be taken out of the stores it's in the stores right now um so will the board be okay with removing that and then putting about the
um like no higher than six grams the grams or milligrams milligrams milligrams sorry six milligrams I'm fine with limiting it to six
milligrams um when do we expect these to go into effect if we give them notice can they sell what they have or return what they have so after tonight we'll have um one more meeting that the it'll be a public
meeting so we'll ask the um retail tobacco owners to come and any any Resident can come too and give their input okay and this is Lisa you can you can
build in a like a buy down period into when they go into effect I mean you can make kind of I mean some towns have like different rules but generally it's you you as a board can decide when the effective date is and a lot of towns will do that where they'll have kind of a buy down date um so that so that
retailers aren't stuck with a ton of product that they can't sell good yeah I think that was the in chapter five I think that was the only area that we had to discuss I'll look back down but I'm pretty sure that's that was
it is there anything else that you saw in the regulations that you wanted to change or ADD no not me I'll get that uh language from you
Lisa you can change that the next I will send it over as soon as we get off this call perfect you want to move on to chapter six yes chapter six okay so this is chapter six let me
pull this up [Music] here one thing that's different than chapter five and chapter six is that chapter six the statement of purpose has been um
minimized and I know roanu had said that we didn't need it I don't know if you want to address that again or think that you'd like to have that put back in or Lisa maybe you can tell us about the statement of purpose um if we recommend that um we keep the statement well all
those like whereas secondhand tobacco smoke contains 7,000 chemicals including hundreds of chemicals you know that whereas whereas whereas would you recommend that we keep that in under statement of purpose or can we just simplify it to what you see right
there and that's the old regulation you could probably keep it at that um there's enough evidence to sub danger the second hand smoke that um that you probably can I do believe
some kind of part it down that much um I I let me just check but I I think that should be fine I said there's there's plenty of of evidence that's pretty generally accepted um but you probably don't have to site the specific ones I think that was my question you
know what I mean is that it's sort of it's already understood so you know I don't know it just if we needed all of that or we could have just simplified it because it is an generally understood principle that's all
that's where I was coming from with that yeah and I believe you can I just I just want to confirm to make sure there not something I'm missing so the statement of purpose that we see here is just from the old regulations was simple the purpose of this regulation is to protect the health
of the employees in general public in the town of [Music] milon I'm just going to move my this down a little bit and we were talking about again if we are going to leave these definitions so anything that's in yellow we were
kind of going to come back and talk a little bit more about is the state regulation or the local regulation do you have any recommendations Lisa um if we should
leave leave that in under definitions um you you don't have any right currently in your town correct right um the difference is just that the state allows um the use of
tobacco products in in uh adult retail tobacco stores whereas the locally you can choose not to allow that um so if you don't have any it may be fine without with just the state definition want to read the state definition board
adult only retail tobacco stores also known as retail tobacco store under 105 CMR 6655 in establishment which is not to possess a retail food permit whose primary purpose is to sell or offer for
sale I'm losing you guys but not for resale tobacco products and paraphernalia in which the sale of other products is merely incidental and in which the entry of persons younger than 21 years old is prohibited at all times and maintains a valid
permit for the retail sale of tobacco products as required to be issued by the appropriate Authority in the in the city town or other legally constituted governmental unit within the Commonwealth where the establishment is located I think Lisa recommended the
state but we lose Lisa sorry I it cut out a little bit so as I said because you don't have any adult only retailers the adult the local definition is really aimed at kind of um creating some additional restrictions on how they
conduct business and if you don't have any EI either one will work but they won't really have an effect either way um because they don't operate in your um in your town so I guess I would probably say that we should stay with the state one
and then yeah I mean the I think that's what I was thinking this St U we don't have them in whatever the the one that would be more applicable I guess Lisa um I would do that because we don't have that and we could always amend them later if we need
be right we've prohibited adult retail right so it just seems like why would we you know yeah I think go with the state yeah that's what I was thinking okay so we're going to keep the state this down a little bit so this is still on the definitions
here Bo down so this is short-term rentals I know you'd asked me roxan to contact the building department about this and I did contact Jay um at the building department he
said there's no short-term rentals existing not he said they're not existing they have new Adu regulations that are coming out as of February 3rd but their planning board is looking at those right now so there's really nothing on the building side I don't
know if you want to just go with you want to go with the state right regulations or if you as I said we don't have them we don't have these regulations in place right now I don't know what what's your opinion Lisa by adding these um so if it's
something you're concerned about um or if if there's a possibility that you will have short-term rentals down the line um this is a good a good you know move um a lot of you know like hotels airbnbs they're all restricted and and
smoke in in a similar way so this is kind of just to make sure that the same standard is applied to the short-term rentals as well um if I don't you wouldn't be opening the door for short T rentals by putting this in place if if there aren't any in Milton so it would
just you know I think it's kind of one of those you have to kind of make the decision but um if probably it it can be worthwhile having if if there is a concern around shortterm rentals and if you have them or think that they may be coming down the line at some
point so I guess what I would say is right now um they were still working on the regulations and there in town meeting um they started to look at how the town could do some things regarding length of stays and the adus and so that has not
been finalized um so I'm wondering if we should see what comes out of that first like this is February and I know hopefully they'll have something together for May we'll know a little bit better about this I'm wondering if we should hold off on this section till we
know because you know there is talk around how long of a time period um with the adus will be a minimum and so forth and I I you know you know short-term rendle what is really the length of stay and so forth
so I mean right now we technically don't have that so I guess I'm just thinking we may need this kind of section but I don't know that we I don't know if we should be putting it now until we see what if it's going to be applicable I
guess is my question that's probably a good idea that makes sense to put off on this section yeah I mean it might be applicable it might be fine but we don't really know that yet so I would rather see what comes out of
it for the length to see if it is applicable that would be my take on it I agree sounds good so we'll reconvene on that okay I know we were touching on this um
previously uh if we wanted to expand it to include Municipal Parks playgrounds and pools Municipal athletic fields and courts Municipal forests and wildlands or do you want to stay silent
on thisa have you seen other um towns put the put these regulations in or what are you seeing on your end yes um a number of towns have put these in um I don't have the list in front of me at the moment unfortunately but uh some of them
I think around kind of concerns about um the waste so because you know it's considered a a hazardous waste especially with like the jewel pods and um nicotine is considered that so uh sometimes it's about the the waste as well as the secondhand smoke issue um
that's why I think a lot of have have chosen kind of like the wild like wildlands or a number of towns with like beaches don't have prohibited it for those reasons because they don't want the contamination kind of spill over um so that that's why like yes it's outside and it's not you know the same as being
trapped in a room but the environmental impacts don't just kind of stop at the smoke right it' be hard to enforce I was just thinking that yep unless we put VES in place or
whatnot but it would still be hard to enforce Because by the time you got down to find someone they're gone I don't know if I'm allowed to speak here but um it seems that it would be more protective to have it in there
regardless whether we can enforce it or not in case there was trouble that we would have to enforce it without a regulation then it would take a regulation first and then we would have to enforce it is that true
yes I do think the issue is um that you brought up Laura is true though because in terms of you know we have there are so many things that need to be looked at and enforced I mean is this something that will will
really do just because we have it on the books I mean I don't know I mean you know we're asking right they might could be asking us to enforce it right I mean if you're have on the books and you don't enforce it it can be a problem too so right I mean most of
the times there are signs in a lot of the places I noticed like athletic fields and things like that but now Municipal forest and wildlands is a little you know this so much area I don't know how that would get enforced at all right and
then the Blue Hills of course is DCR I see that Susan has raised her hand I'm just gonna ask Laura who's our chair if you'll allow Laura if you'll allow Susan to speak uh yes thank you Laura I um had a office
that was in a peculiar spot in Milton uh and that's the 88 Warf building and that also had a lot of activity with children that are there right at the warf and also when they had the farmers market
that was right outside the te- Stop and that's particularly what I was thinking of it is a beach so to speak and we don't have that written here and I don't know that that's legally called a park there but um that would be a
source of you know more contamination the you know Wildlife that comes up the warf uh we routinely saw seals and the Eagles and you know everything that comes up in that area so you know if
there was a lot of contamination that would at least give us the ability to um maybe cut it down if we had a regulation in place I just feel like if we have a regulation in place will be asked to
enforce it if anyone sees anything and it would be pretty impossible to do that but who would that be unless there was a problem there it would only be if there was a problem correct no there'd be plenty of people
who would say oh I saw a cigarette butt here and I saw you know I think oh okay okay I mean I'm not positive but I would I could see that happening okay could could would it be prudent to do
like a distance from a certain area um you know from say like a a buffer zone or something around even like a shoreline or just suggested
parameters um does DCR have any regulations in that regard that maybe we don't know about I didn't think they did uh unless you know of something Caroline I don't believe they do we could we could reconvene on it
when we reconvene on the other language I we could think about those things but I I do I do hear what Laura is saying because every time we put something in there's an expectation that you're going to really enforce it and
um you know while we may think it's not a great thing for people to do and so forth I I just worry about the enforcement people uh part of it you know we should just um I what do you think yeah I want to I mean I think we
should I'm leaning towards not putting them in but I'm also happy to think about it and reconvene when we do the do you want shortterm rentals do you
want to think about it and then you can individually email me okay what your your decision is you know if two of you says just not to put it in okay proceed like that if you if you want to think a
little bit more about it yeah that's fine okay so I'm going to say that you're going to be emailing me and thinking about it and you're going to email me okay okay then it says a guest room in a hotel motel we don't have any hotels or
motels we don't have any ins that I know of or B in breakfast or lodging homes that is designed to normally use for sleeping and living purposes right the same with the short-term rentals I I mean I think it's the same issue with earlier
when it was mentioned do you want to remove those remove I and J I think you should for now we don't have we certainly don't have a hotel motel or in or anything yeah we should definitely get rid of the
eye yeah then wouldn't the short-term rentals depend on right it it depends what the shortterm you know what the lent of day is for 80 so I don't I would remove it for now but you know okay that's it there anything else that
you saw in here that you like to revisit if not then I'll just wait for your Emil about D and F okay okay I'm try the rest of it
yeah any other questions for um Lisa Stevens good night before she says good night says good night says good night yeah no I have no thanks I don't thank you very much
welcome thank you guys for having me thank you thank you thank you very much thanks for coming Val in the board all right okay I'm gonna move on see so next is um the health director's
report I keep on adding to this here I'll correct report because I had um put together some notes earlier in the week earlier in last week and a couple of more things have come up so um we did roxan and I met with Norwood Town
Administrator and the no Health director about that healthc care capacity audit and Hospital closures in the area I did send another email roxan to two more contacts that I know and basically they just said we have to reach out to
someone at the state the right person I guess at the state so maybe we just haven't found that yet because they didn't know the answer I'll have to Circle back with Stacy the health director oh yeah Norwood to find out you know they're what they're creating is like a task force in Norwood
um around the closure of the Norwood Hospital and they are um trying to get some momentum to get that reopened so yeah I mean the focus just if I can just jump in for a minute the focus of the the meeting was really um
they wanted to meet with us because of our letter that was really focused in on Healthcare capacity audit that the state should have been doing in terms of looking at hospital beds um especially with Carney clothes and and um you know quiny and Norwood and in this whole nor
far County as well so that was really to just try to get some of the towns around us to try to write letters as well to get state to do that because um anybody that works in healthcare sees what's going on um and people are waiting for beds they can't get beds they're having to get diverted it's it's just not a
good situation and so um you know it I think that the data would support whatever it supports and that's what we had said to Norwood is that you know where our focus is really looking at the healthcare capacity and asking the state to do what they should have already done
um and I would hope that other communities would do that because I think given the lack of hospital beds everywhere it especially in our area uh Southshore norfol it's a real problem and and um so that's really where we
were coming from that and Norwood has been really their Town Administrator has been working on getting a task force for his area to try to do something about this so that was you know so he talked a little bit to us about what they were doing we just said that you know we we
think that that we really should be pushing for this um capacity audit that should have been done because then the data would probably support possibly reopening we don't know but our focus is really on making sure we have enough beds for people here and um anybody else
that might come to live here agre oh thanks okay so um another thing is we had a QPR training last week I wasn't able to go to it because I was out but it's called question persuade and refer
training we had a training for employees Town employees and also residents it was led by Bay State Laura rosenfall we didn't get as many people as we hoped we'll run it again in the fall but Laura said even if we we have a training for
one person it it will um you know be be helpful to Residents or even employees so it was worthwhile to go ahead and and have that training so and also we had a
raon webinar when I was away also uh and I think that it was pretty well attended uh myself and Pat nees my neighbor rot a ra on article and then a webinar by Stephanie Santoro from the
state and um so I think that went well and we just found out this week that we can put it on the uh our website the health department website so people can watch it I still have have to watch it so it just got approved this week that
it be posted on our website so that was good about the rate on great PPR um right now we're doing a community survey for the opioid settlement funds I think you may have gotten this in your
packet I hope you you um can take the community survey so that was a survey that we put together with our um our consultant and we're just reaching out to the community to get some feedback of how the money should be spent so I believe we have about 80 people that
have responded so far so we're hoping to get some more people to respond to that we be a sment survey did you get any feedback Caroline on it was it um hard to access because somebody reached out to me and said they went to that and it would it didn't open up well or
something I don't know I haven't heard that I actually had my son do it yesterday okay okay and have any problem accessing it so okay okay that's good to know yeah so it should be it should be good to go because he did that yesterday okay
perfect good and um there was an opioid Grant opportunity that Margaret Carell's um made me aware of it was for $1,500 and it's it's coming from the north for County uh we've never they're getting opioid money too and then
they're trying to disperse it further down to to the towns and we could have um I didn't want to leave money on the table so what we're going to do with the $1,500 we put in a proposal for this anyway we have to get it approved from
Mr John Cronin who's the northall county director but it was um we put in the request to send two children to the Milton Park and W camp for a sweek session and now it's $750 to send one child to that Park session so we can
send two and this would be to benefit um children that come from families with members impacted by opioid addiction so we're hoping to get that that Grant and we can this either the schools will identify um some
children and maybe our social worker will to to have two two children attend that Park and wreck that's nice and then we I just that sounds good to mention also is that we're we're
we're continuing to get support for the Milton Coalition we got a $200 Grant from the First Parish in Milton we got $184 Grant I can't say Grant it's money that's coming in um for for the SE sear family
so who that is is Maya sear I don't know if I'm saying her name right but she went to the kadka National leadership forum and um she raised $184 so that's coming into the mton Coalition so that was great news got two brands
then let's see what else to talk about here uh the state right now is conducting a foundational Public Health Service review of every Health Department in the state and uh it's quite extensive
this this um the information that they want to get they want to get all the information about what what kind of ser services are we providing in our health department they want to know um who's who's in the health department how how much they're getting paid how much rent Revenue we're
generating how many grants we get they're looking overall to provide these foundational Public Health Services throughout the Commonwealth and so they're just trying to get an idea of um comparisons of like what our town may be able to offer as other towns and try to
fill those gaps that's what they're hoping to do so they're they're conducting this has taken a little bit of my time to put in all this information I still have to get more information before I fill it all out so um that's been a process but we get it
done uh also I just wanted to say that Riverside Community Care um we finally signed the contract I did today for the recovery coach I know we've been talking about this for a year and a half so this is nor for County um H and
um we have a behavioral health um service agreement between Riv side Community Care and um Milton now which went into effect March 1st and it's going to end actually June 30th and then it will you know we'll see how it goes
in the next couple months only four months but I sent um all this information over to Chief King Jenny bellw at the schools our veterans agent uh Ann knows about it she's going to to contact Riverside to see uh exactly you
know what they can offer Milton and see if um we can help some resid res with recovery services so more to come about that but that's a first step we've been working on this so this this is going to be paid out of the opioid money and it's
it's um it's a long time coming to get this contract in place so I'm glad it was finally signed by me today and it's it's in force working on
that that's good let's see what else side um laui Stillman is working on the community health Improvement plan so actually I just saw her email today and so we've got a first draft I'm going to look at it this week I'm planning to look at it with
Lai um and um just go through what she's saying we're counting up all the um you know after we had our our meeting just counting up you know what's what's risen to the top what areas can we seem to tackle uh
and you know what other areas can can other committees or other Town town meeting not town meeting but town you know departments can tle so couple things Rose to the top the
communications maybe having a health Consortium age friendly designations I'll send this um all to the board as I said this is just the first the first draft and so we're going to be looking at that and seeing you know what
areas Rose to the top and as I said what areas we can tackle and where where some other Town Department can tackle or committee can tackle a partnership for a healthy meal might be able to tackle so I'll send you guys that um and you can
take a look at that I just also wanted to talk a little just touch on um we did get a um a message from Nancy bani that there was eight um eight Canada geese that were
were in the the Neons River and that someone must have told her about so she did contact the State about that they were too far down in the river but it looks like the Aven flu for the eight um geese and we've seen that in Plymouth
too you know we don't have any positive um Aven flu that we've heard of in Milton but um you're supposed to call the state if you see more than five birds or carcasses or whatnot that dead birds and
then they could come out and test them supposedly but but Nancy wasn't going to take the chance of trying to get those birds so um we're just going to um you know wait wait and watch and see if there's any more reports of it but that
was the first time that um Nancy had said that about those dead birds in Milton and the state said yeah the state said they'll be swept Downstream and they'll eventually sink or end up in a a location where someone can retrieve them
safely so just to notify I think on mass.com you can notify too you can maybe even self notify if you see um dead dead birds five or more so just keeping it on
our radar about the Aven flu and then I did want to touch on 5 to N9 atra Street and if you'll remember Bor that
in December of 2020 this property is the old Nights of Columbus oh yeah where in sync is it's right behind the Milton food Mark so it at the time this is in 2020 uh I I um contacted the state about
this property there was a complaint that came in about trash on the property it did have a fence around it but there was trash and there was like tree limbs and it was all taken care of at that time so we we um sent out a correction order to the owner they they made corrections to
the property at that time I even um contacted Tara rdle and Tara rle is with the neighbor neighborhood renewal division so she came out at that time this we had the state we had Tara um and actually we did have a board
meeting and the owner did come so everything was fixed or everything was uh remedied on the property was secured it was all cleaned up and so then we haven't heard anything so fast forward here but five years later we got a
complaint um about the property that it was an eyore and you know what what are we going to do about that so um I asked the board again you know should we contact Tara rle again to see if she can come out you know at that time she we didn't do anything we didn't condemn it
as I said it was satisfied what happened so it's it's still in the same state of disrepair my staff went out um and there's a fence around it but this the fence wasn't secure in two places you could someone could go in and get in
through their fence and go into the the area and I'm not sure how secure the the two buildings are so um the ask was let me see I can even pull it up I have it here I share it with
you is the correction we sent out can you guys see that so this is the correction order see it looks the same oh is this oh this is 2020 so a lot of things were wrong in 2020 this is the correction order for 2020 but it's
basically the same except not as much stuff we only saw that the the fence wasn't secure but if you remember I'm going to go down a little bit in 2020 there was like all kinds of rubbish at this area let's see
let's go down a little bit more and so back then 2020 it was all clean up seal that the garbage and stuff and they they did do what they were supposed to do they secure the building as you see it secured any kind of way for them to get
in but here we are again and actually I did email Tara and this is what she said I'll read it to you just pulled up her email here so she's still working there so she said if the town is interested in referring this property for a possible
receivership action we will be happy to schedule a time to meet at the property and assess the current condition as you likely recall if the property is deemed a fit for our program we would then perform a title search to identify any party with a legal interest in the
property we would then send a demand letter to those parties informing them of the possibility that a petition for an appointment of a receiver may be filed so that's what she's suggesting um so who who did we send the order to
clean up to if we don't know the owners we do we do know who the owner is yeah bring it up to the top here because the owner did come into our board meeting or had a representative he did have a lawyer so
the owner is Milton Thatcher LLC but there is someone that that they responded and actually Jean you're on the call um you said that somebody did call um last week did they leave a phone number because nobody um
left any any um phone number on my line did you say somebody called is Jean on this Jean there I am on it um I thought that the person I thought he I thought he did leave a phone number I didn't indicate the number to you I
didn't see it do you think he left it on my desk and I have to look he he may have said that he would call back maybe it was that type of call okay sometimes that happens too they don't want to leave a number so maybe that was the case okay okay I kind of don't really
remember um but if if he had left his number I would have indicated his number okay maybe he just didn't want to I told him you out you know so maybe he preferred to call back okay all right let me um I checked all my messages this
morning I didn't have a message but I I'll check again tomorrow maybe maybe he's left a message and I'll follow up uh he asked it at least secure the fences at this property I can reach out um to Tara rle if you would like to have
her come out and assess the situation again and I can contact Town Council what do you what do you think board I would I agree with that yes
y all right let me do that let's see let's see is there anything else any do you guys got any questions for me um Carolyn I just whatever happened with was it Smith Road oh
yeah so we're kind of in a holding pattern with Smith Road I think that you know I've reached up once or twice up to the building department unfortunately the director of the building department left um maybe a month or two ago but I
don't think there has been much movement with with uh Smith Road that I've heard of anyway you know I I I don't know they they can have contractors come in and take a look at it and they said they were going to so
it's we're kind of in a holding pattern at least for one year if they don't do anything in a year then the Board of Health can take take action so what type of action would we take like just can we order it to be torn
down or can you can order it to be torn down and how often Carolina we go up and like check checking the property and making sure um that it was Secure I haven't been up there I can
take a look again since we secure you know they put the fence around it we put our notice up there but no neighborhood take a look and see no Neighborhood Activity no calls yeah no complaints or anything once in a while Chris Martin
will come in he's come in twice to say like have you heard anything and I said no so I think the neighbors are pretty good about up there about checking and make sure like it's secure I mean they did mention um one of the neighbors
mentioned to me that they have had some contractors going in and out but like nothing's been pulled or anything um and they certainly would let us know if there's anything else going on there and it is posted this particular neighbor said it was posted you know that it's
condemned and so forth but so I think that neighborhood after everything that's going on I think they're pretty good about letting us know um but certainly worth taking a ride Caroline when you have a minute which is probably never
but take a look and see yeah yeah but I mean that's the feedback I've gotten from it yeah I think I definitely think Chris Martin would come by and tell me if something was going on or tell me to get up there and take a look because he's right next
door yeah anything else I don't have anything no okay all right let's see I'm going to move on
see you want to set a date for the next meeting um yes but don't we have to have a quick one after the election
would that be our next meeting have a meeting maybe before that or probably before that we should have a meeting I mean our election's the 29th so oh it's the 29th yeah yeah yeah so that's a long time oh
yeah then yeah okay y soon okay do you want do you want to look at something before April 29th then yeah I mean five weeks is what the seventh is that the
yeah uh what am I doing seventh I think the seventh Works to me as yeah the seven yeah the seven works yeah it seems to work for me okay so uh April 7th at 7M does that
work yeah okay sounds good all right perfect great thank you board thank you everyone okay thank you thanks Caroline thanks take care thank you okay bye bye thanks bye so um adjourning now at 8:01
board will you adjourn V toour yes V tojn all in favor I okay thank you thank you good night thank you [Music]
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