[Music] uh calling the uh border park commission meeting September 11, 2025. Second company in order can you introduce yourself
here? >> Yeah, Carol, >> chair. Um, all right. I want to approve the meeting minutes for 71025 and 72925. >> A motion.
>> All those in favor? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. All right. public comment. I don't think I don't see anyone here. >> Someone was coming to talk to them, but >> All right. Well, can we revisit it? Absolutely. Yeah, we'll re There's no
one online. >> Any lower guy project? >> It's the only thing is uh we do have a site visit. I'll let you guys I believe it's October 6. >> Jamie would probably love to come. um my calendar.
>> Is that like a Is that a public? It has to be >> Who will be there? Kevin someone from the state. >> Yeah. >> What's the date on that? >> It's either I think it's the 9th. >> Eth I
>> October. >> Yes. Yeah. I I'll let you know this morning. >> Okay. >> I think it's at 10:00 a.m. >> What? So do you know like what's the So obviously they have this setting to say like what's the procedure as we go
forward. So then we have our first hearing date um on the 15th of October. >> Yeah. And depending it should be one or two days and then it's in the hands of D and they make decision >> they can appeal again.
>> I don't know if they can appeal to D. I think they have to appeal to some something else. Um, so that's all I have. >> So that's that. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh, discussion regarding additional fencing.
>> Yeah. So it's been going on for a little bit. Um, and the gentleman who I talked to said he was coming for that, but I don't see him. Um, so we did some additional fencing in the if you're looking at the street aring court from
the parking lot to the far left corner. We went up, but it was probably $8,000 worth of fencing. We did additional fencing. >> How high is it now? >> To protect um it's got to be up to 35 ft.
>> Um, but kids are still getting pucks and balls over to a yard. Um, so I do have a new proposal, a netting system that will go right off our
property and his property. Uh, it is $6,700. So, you're doing that with the additional eight that'll be already spent. Um, I mean, I'm running out of options here on how to do it, but I think if we try
this and then I have signage down there. It's it the problem is it's these disc pucks these studies agree on. And he has little kids and um so hopefully if you guys approve this, we'll uh we'll do
that. >> Yeah, I'll chime in. So that neighbor reached out to me because the the pots are coming over into their backyard when it happens and they have a swing set right there. So they have little kids kind of in that space that it just
happens to be right where the pucks are dropping and um you know there's a concern. It's they're not tennis balls. there. >> No, they were. >> It's hard a hard >> They have like little ball bearings on.
It's like a disc and it slides. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, it's just deflections. >> It's not It's not the kid hitting it going up in the air. It's just a kid defending the puck, >> hitting his stick, and then shooting that ball.
30 something. Yeah. >> We don't get it. It's still coming over. We don't get it the other way though. It's weird. We don't get it. >> Probably go get those. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But even when I'm down there, I just don't see it. >> He brought in a bag. I trust the man.
Not saying it didn't happen. >> So, what is that? That neck goes over the whole thing. Or is it >> over It goes over his fencing, which is right up against um it's beyond the rink. And now there's another he has a fence there. So, we're going to put
poles up and go straight up. And uh well before he said anything >> Yeah. When when the original fencing went up were any of the neighbors like on Lincoln Street
involved in any of that in the car >> when the original fence went up? >> Yeah. >> No. >> Okay. >> Excellent. We didn't we didn't have any issues for a while and then it started happening.
>> I think we should table the discussion until we hear from person you know I think >> or at least get input >> at least get input before we put eyes on sorry what is that look like? >> No this is separate this is going to go
kind of separate fence. Yeah. I think we're talking about the topic again. You want >> You can come on up. >> Step right up. >> You brought us
on. Yeah. >> Oh, great. Um, so yeah, it sounds like you already know. My name is Jesse Grove. I'm resident, one of the residents at 42 Lincoln. Um, which that's the Kelly Field hockey rink uh to the back. Um, I am not the only
resident. Uh, my wife, uh, Ekko and our 5-year-old PJ Grove and our three-year-old, uh, Kurt Grove, um, also live there with me. Um, we got a big backyard that the kids love playing around with. There's a play structure that's directly on the other side of the
fence. Um, and uh, you know, this is part of what keeps me up at night. Um, this we this is just like a couple months, you know. Um, uh, we had to go to a bigger box that to to store the rest. And these are only the ones that
kids don't come to get, you know, um, kids and adults, I should say. Some uh, sometimes they'll come around and to come retrieve them. These are just the ones they left behind. Um, you know, these, uh, concern me less.
Um, I've seen them fall right at my feet and, um, uh, it it didn't, uh, seem like it hit that hard. Um, but just to tell you how often these are coming on, I I literally saw it like fall right right at my feet. You know, this is how often
they're coming coming around. Um, >> so I I don't know. I haven't seen this either. So, I'm just trying to figure out is they said there's a 30 foot fence or something. >> It's a huge fence. >> So, these balls must be deflecting and coming up and so they're just falling
down. >> Mhm. Yeah. I think they're they're arcing way up um and coming coming straight down. Um I don't uh and the these are the more concerning things. Uh these things are very heavy. Um, one of
one of these colliding with uh my 5-year-old Ted um is going to be a real problem. Um the I I I don't I didn't we uh I tried to get a copy of the proposed you know plans. I I wasn't able to get a copy before coming today. So I don't I don't
even know what would be required frankly. And I've been working with Kevin a bunch over the last two three years um uh to try and find a solution and we've been unable to come up with one. Um Kevin has a quote, right?
>> For netting >> uh $6,700. Um and that would be up against your fence there on the wall back there as a netting system. >> So it go be it extend our fence, not the the fence around the rink. Yes, because
we really can't go any higher there. Yes, it's topheavy now at this point where you just have all this extra weight on one side of of the rink. So, is that going to solve the problem? >> Yeah, I know. >> I'm skeptical.
>> I mean, we spent $6,700. These things are coming up and over. >> I mean, you know, I'm not a I'm not a physicist, but I I don't know if that's going to work. Uh I I am I am also skeptical because again uh the the fence that's very high
right now that's all on the hockey rink it is very close to our fence. So uh if they're able to get over that portion you know then that'll catch some I suppose. But so can I uh we have a site
walk in I think it's the 16th so that's not too far like five days the sidewalk we're walking all the parts with a with a consultant for our master plan >> um and I would propose that we all go well we're going to be out there anyways
and we should take a look at it with Kevin and everyone so that we can at least assess assess the situation before we go spend $6700 $100 and we don't address the situation. So, I appreciate your your concern.
I think we just need to figure out how to address it. Um, maybe maybe there's another solution, but I think >> is there a solution in your eyes? >> I said, >> yeah. Um, >> besides moving the >> Yeah, moving the hover. It's a it's a it's a big parking lot and there's other
corners that don't abut houses. Uh, ours is the only corner that ab butts a house. Um uh but I understand that that comes with significantly more expense. But uh uh that that would that would almost certainly that would at least
almost certainly address the problem because you'd get if because there's there's four corners to that parking lot. Only one ab butts a house and it's the corner that it's built on. Um short of moving it. Um, if the fence can truly go no higher, I
I'm not sure. Um, the, you know, you could like a like a batting cage, you could build it in. Um, but I don't know if that's possible. Um, >> need to build it all the way in. Maybe you can just build it and build it all. >> Does it does it curve curve or is it just straight up?
>> It's straight up. >> Yeah, that's the issue. But there might be some sort of system >> that like comes a little bit over. >> So we got to do a little bit more research. We that's what I would suggest. It's it's helpful at least for
us to get out there in six days whenever. If um obviously you're you're welcome that's a public meeting too that can let you know like when we think we'll be around >> I think we're going to start at Andrews because it's one side of town and we'll
move over. Um so we'll let you know. I think >> I'd like to be there. Yeah. >> Okay. >> We understand it's an issue. So I think it'll be helpful too to have them there as a consultant that maybe they have some ideas. >> Yeah. They might even have a solution
for it. >> Right. >> So >> I just I just want to impress uh I I don't know I you know uh I can't tell you exactly what the solution is. I can tell you uh what the most expensive and most likely to work solution is. Um, but
for me the expense is worth it because it's about my 5-year-old and my three-year-old and uh and all their friends that we have over sometimes. We got a bunch of kids back there uh just two days ago and you know that's just someone's playing hockey and someone comes over the fence. That's going to be
a real problem. It's going to be more expensive than a than moving a rink uh both in emotional and financial costs. So that's that's my point that I came here to make. Thank you. [Music]
>> Thank you. I did discussion last night. >> So, I've got a few calls from mostly elderly people down at Turners walking around and these ebikes and e scooters around them. >> They can't they can't hear them coming.
And uh some lady got she didn't get hit, but she moved and then she fell. She fell. Um, so I put like a temporary sign down there um on both ends of the park. It's not huge, but it says they're prohibited.
Um, so what I'm wondering from you guys, have you heard anything from anyone? I mean, we can go much larger sign and make it more permanent. This is just kind of like a pilot sign. And I'm just wondering what if you guys
have heard anything about this. Um, >> I haven't heard anything. Are the Are they kids trying to go to school, do we think, or we're not sure? >> Don't know. >> Yeah, >> that I don't know. >> There are actually, we looked it up,
state regulations regarding the ebikes also, um, in regards to like a natural path. Technically, they're not allowed. Okay. On a natural >> Yeah. >> I want you guys to be aware of it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to unless you guys think
otherwise I'm going to keep the temporary signs down there and just see how how it's working out. Um >> actually yeah around taking the mic helmet on. I mean
what's the difference between those >> completely unread headphones on walk you know >> so fast now >> so you just have a temporary >> so you're looking permanent
I am if if the cause is there. If if we if we agree you guys agree as a board you want me to do something you want to keep it for now and see what happens and then we can always get something more permanent put up >> over the winter maybe because it'll be
slowing down once the cold weather gets here. >> Sure. >> Let's see if we hear anything in the morning just seeing com. >> I doubt >> Yeah, I do too.
>> Yeah, I know. >> You never know. >> I know. I know Reese has got her little electric scooter on. So, who knows? Um, all right. But then, um, CPC project updates is that,
uh, so I guess the the first thing is the master plan. finally got Ryan. I a call yesterday because it's been a while since he's been responding. >> Um so we locked in the 16. So that's the 16. >> Yeah, >> we can't. Okay. I didn't say change.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can do the 16. Um so that's next Tuesday. Yeah. >> I did post it as a public meeting. >> So that's next Tuesday and Ryan said at 10 o'clock. And so I just said Andrews because I figured Yes. It's by you and it's on the other town.
>> I guess like I'm guessing >> maybe I don't know. I mean it could it's we're going to a bunch of sites. It could take longer. >> Should we just I don't know. I just threw it in there. I just took the day off because I
figured [Music] >> he'll be here all day. Yeah, >> he'll be here all day, I think. Um I'm guessing I'm guessing like if we're going to every single part, it's going
to take a few hours. >> We're stop at Andrews. >> Yeah. >> And if we're starting >> Andrews and I think we should go to Kelly. >> Get Mary C on the way. >> Mary on the way. >> Mary for us.
>> Yeah. Kelly Shields. She >> high school plat >> flatlin >> honestly we those are the big ones I think right am I missing >> those seven that's Andrews Mary city
county shields high school >> yeah it >> is he got to look at the the where the old dump was >> Oh yeah we should probably get that too Yeah.
Is it just is it just called access road? >> Yes. >> I think the rest >> I I forget what our list was. Well, but those are the big >> should be a little bit planned out.
>> You know what? Like I'll I can maybe I'll just I'll I'll send I'll send it. that list of like what we think we're do and then go from there because if we can >> high school itself >> yeah I'm thinking Kelly will take an
hour and take an hour you know so just those big ones could take one >> I'm not planning it to attend I'll reply to that but I'll be in the office um I I'll need to be I can't be >> somebody has to be there
>> right and it's posted obvious obviously and it's a site visit so it's technically no you it's a public meeting but you can't make discussions in decisions >> still has to come to the next meeting just so you have
>> one of those >> right >> now I do have one question do do we want I mean it's during the day it's obviously posted as a You know, we had a great turnout before
our meeting that we had with Ryan. Is this something we want to try to promote? Is it something that we think, you know, let's do phase one, which is getting Ryan to see everything and then we can work. >> I think it's a lot for the consultant to
deal with the public. I I would think I think it's just better to have our group and then they will begin. just ourselves. >> I mean the public's allowed to come, >> right? >> And it is posted. So if somebody comes,
they come. >> Yeah. >> But I think we um knowing knowing about the color, I will put people on the agenda and send it over to fine just to have them like, okay, this looks good, >> right? And then if we can put in Kelly
at whatever time I put in, then at least we can send it so that he can meet us. >> Yeah. >> To to see. >> Um, so I think we'll do that. But yeah, I think it's going to be a lot. I think on Ryan, it's just him trying to like
observe everything. He's gonna >> he's not going to want to like necessarily engage as a public >> necessarily. I think he's got Um, all right. So, that's that. And then the CPC uh applications. I know I have we have
one in for the high school softball uh field at GIO. And then I know soccer field is another one. Sorry for the Andrews. Well, it's for it's it's for the rehabilitation. >> Um at Andrews. I think that's it too.
Yes. Um, and so I think we're just kind of in the middle. The CPC writing is in the middle of that. So I think the funding applications are coming up. It's always in November 7.
>> Okay. >> Um, and I think we must have a meeting coming up at some point. Um, like the in between, but that's basically where we are. And those it's those two applications that are >> in the Kellyfield dugouts. I know that
was >> Are those done yet or not? They look great. >> Yeah, look. >> They look good. Is the roof on? That was part of my manager's report. >> Um they come in the first week of October. Everything's done except for Yeah.
>> And they have the benches. They're putting putting them in too. Um and then >> awesome. >> They're going to hide the receipt >> around all the work they're done. I think this company I've worked for a lot of companies. They were really good. They did really good. Excellent. I mean,
looks good. >> Yeah, it looks good. >> Really good. I was hesitate to use them again. >> Awesome. >> I think that's I think that's they'll be coming. So, and then they'll be done. Um
everything's in full swing um for as far as fall sports. Everything's going smoothly as far as I know. We had some rain last weekend which wasn't great for the opening weekend. Um I did attend a meeting last Thursday with Nick Milano at Curry
College. Uh they are offering they're going to offer um grass space for Milton soccer on Sundays for the fall and spring. So um >> where what
>> do you know where the turf field is? >> Yeah. >> Right to the right of it going towards what's that Bradley Road and it's >> Yeah. Um it's not 100% regulation. and they call it 98.5%
regulation. Um, so I reached out to Primary Botley from soccer. I gave him all the information. Um, they're not giving it for free. I don't know the the fee yet what they're going to charge, but they're going to charge. And their goal is to turn their baseball
fields, the outfield part of it, into a field hockey turf. They're going to turf the whole field. Yeah. >> But use the outfield when baseball's not playing. It's field hockey too. >> Yeah. >> As well. >> Um >> what days did they say?
>> It will be Sundays. >> Sundays >> in the in the fall and in the spring. >> So it's fine. So our resident but this whole proposal. >> So said thank you. We'll continue to have your you know involve you in the
process but hire consultant to that >> well that's framework I mean >> yeah I don't [Music] >> that's
because I want to know do they need the fold do they need side to side you know for the younger real younger hits. But right now, um, they're kind of all set. The tiny upon 32, whatever that
>> Yeah. Yeah. They're usually pretty good because >> that space also floods over there. >> Yeah. >> A lot if it's in the rain. >> Yeah. >> Well, they lose soccer fields in the spring. Soccer does because of baseball and softball. I think this would be a
good avenue come the spring >> because they're always looking for field space. >> Yeah. >> Um I think that's all I have. >> Okay. Summer went great. uh coming in.
Uh no issues at all with campus, staff, and most importantly parents. So, one of the easiest summers I've had. Um Gary was great working with us for the seven weeks. Um again, anything we needed, he was
there. Anything he needed, I was there. Um so, the summer went great. Then I got an email which I'll forward to the trade after the meeting. Um I got on August 27th from Gary with a bill
for the camp. Um 5,300. Um so basically you you'll see the email look at it and send me any questions or concerns you have with it and then I'll give you my input. Um he had talked to Kevin and I. This is the first time
we've been charged. >> We got that. You talked to him about it >> years ago >> and he never did charge us when he took over two years ago and we come up with a figure if they were going to charge maybe $10 >> $10. >> So never nothing ever came of that. That
was almost two years ago I think. >> I remember that. Yeah. >> And uh so we knew something was coming. Um and then uh nothing until the 27th of August and he come up with a u a rate of
$27 per camp. So we had 198 campus through the program. So the bill that he's hitting us with is 5346. So look at the email please. Any questions concerns just send them to me
back to you guys if you guys want to do it. I guess question how can we get hit with a bill when we don't know exactly what we're getting paid with. So, I think I don't think
personally I have a problem paying, you know, nothing's ever for free, but we also need to understand like we can't send a bill after after the fact. If we if you know ahead of time and you can plan for it and you plan for your
payments, you know, then you also have to understand, you know, this is x amount for the can and then you build that into a price and so, >> right? convers [Music] didn't realize Again,
bus company did the same thing to us. So, we price Yeah. when I price these, we price them. Uh, it's cost efficient to the parents. Okay. I make it. So, maybe by the end when we do our spreadsheet, we might make $10. I'm just
trying to keep it so we don't lose. Yeah. Um bus company they hit us with a rate increase after I had already gone out with the program cost. So similar situation not this. >> So the bus company was 100 times one
time. >> Yeah. [Music] >> Once I know ahead of time then we'll go in and we'll try to keep watch all the programs. So maybe
so again we work down >> maybe there's a happy medium for this year we can can we split it or something and then and then the next year let's get a rate and like figure it out like hey we know this rate we're going to build it in
>> the parent have an issue >> well that's the reason why >> so look at the email please just send me any questions text phone calls whatever we'll [Music] I don't know.
>> I I I look to you guys, right? Do you do you want him to come in? He can come in and talk to us. Like I think we all I think we know very well. Like I think I think it's at some point we just come back and say you can hit us with a bill later that we don't know that we're going to be pricing it in. But I think we're also
reasonable. We we know we don't know what our budget is. >> So there's got to be some ground somewhere. >> I don't I'm not saying I would have a question. It's more land. It's more about planning
and knowing moving forward and maybe it was just like a loose conversation. We just need to like nar. So maybe you send me those answers to questions. I'll fire them off to him and then he can then you can decide we don't like response or we don't like the response.
But with I would assume with one of his board members not just him. I mean I don't boy I don't think he's making decisions like this by his you know
so maybe not bring up another we should figure out our next meeting and then maybe we do you know can we can we also ask him to come in for that next meeting and then have a conversation
before we go I I think that would that would be wise just so that we can have a conversation moving forward because >> I can talk. >> Yeah, I can have a conversation >> again. I'll send an email and then like I said, we'll see the response, your
questions, my questions. >> So, the next um next meeting date I would say like the 9th or the 16th. I I I want to shy away from the 23rd and
the 30th possibly because I will uh I might not >> I said the ninth or the 16th >> n then I feel like that me a little bit from
adrenaline. Um, so I think that'll be keep on basically schedule. Um, anything else? [Music] >> Great Chinese this year. He and I attended the
year's open house last week. Um, primarily for sixth grade parents that don't really know a lot about them, you know, answer some questions. We had a billboard andformational rapires and whatnot answer questions
from the principal and the classes, you know. So, that was we didn't stay this, but we left the information behind and flying. um you know got feedback there. Sean and I also attended yesterday a new job fair at Card College um which is
basically to fill everything that they originally hired for as part of their work study program uh there. So it was great a lot of companies there. We got at least a dozen or so they signed up
for positions. over as the assistant to the coordin coordinator and it's a great it's a win-win on both sides you know they they study and then we split the cost of having that so
we'll have a couple to choose from there so that was good again we had the angler education the other night I so mass wildlife again in that was excellent very grow up in it that there too. So
>> very like it's a success story, you know, as to how that works out, you know, because he was there in the work study and now he's working as a team for a day. And it, you know, the president stopped by him yesterday
was like, "Oh, I just gave you your diploma like, you know, months ago basically." So then he said, "This is great." And they're going to go this week >> Monday. Next Monday. >> Yeah. So go there.
[Music] >> Yes. and sports. Please hear it's a strong sixth grade this year. That's uh so sounds promising
that they'll be attending definitely the word is out >> where it starts in the sixth grade. >> Sixth to 8th grade. So we added energy to do things this year like a monthly raffle that we're doing, you know, sign
car each time they enter a raffle box and have a raffle prize every year. Basically that's on 15 account that will do that, you know. So there's a few kids that build out cars and parents um for their open house. Um so that'll be fun.
Something new. We'll do like a little pizza party and do the raffle drawing and you know just trying to maybe add in a few new things >> this year to try to [Music]
>> I'm like one more like I might as well run just in case two weeks ago >> 350 kids plus more clinic two weeks ago over 100 kids there for you instruction start Sunday uh you got 110 kids there
middle school ID program also went out last night I think live >> so that stuff again it's consistent every year numbers never go down um so no issues there with the programs
the interest is there >> yeah staffing staffing is going to be tough um so I'll have to address that that another time [Music] >> yeah so usually the feed would be the
community service summer that's draw because I have eyes on seven weeks and I know the community service me >> yeah so I don't know where they're getting them how they get them I don't know what they're doing but the hours
are less >> so we'll kiss good kiss. [Music] That's it for me. >> We all set. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Motion motion to >> second. >> Yes. [Music] [Music]