MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE JULY 8th, 2026
>> WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE FOR JULY 8th, 2026. I AM JASON CHAVEZ, AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC
THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE BROADCASTS INCLUDE REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR
SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL SO WE CAN VERIFY A QUORUM FOR THIS MEENG.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. >> PRESENT. >> WONSLEY IS ABSENT. RAINVILLE? >> PRESENT. >> VETAW. >> PRESENT. >> WHITING. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. IS IS ABSNLT. -- ABSENT AND CHAIR CHAVEZ IVMENT PRESENT. LET THE
RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. I'LL REMIND OUR MY COLLEAGUES WE'RE USING THE TAGS HERE FOR SPEAKER MANAGEMENT, SO PLEASE USE THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET ON QUEUE TO SPEAK. OUR AGENDA IS IN FRONT OF US, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE WILL MOVE TO THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND HAVE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE SEETO REGISTER TO SPEAK. ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 3 SETS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 22nd TO CONSIDER THE
MAYOR'S NOMINATION OF DR. REGINALD FREEMAN TO THE APPOINTMENT OF FIRE CHIEF. ITEM 4 POSTPONES CONSIDERATION AND NEXT STEPS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CONCEALMENT OF IDENTITY ORDINANCE UNTIL AUGUST 5th PSHC MEETING AND WITHOUT OBJECTION I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 5
WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AS I HAVE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 5 IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO FOR POLICE INSPECTOR MOLLY FISHER TO ATTEND THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO POLICING LEADERSHIP ACADEMY. ANY
OBJECTIONS TO THAT? GREAT. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE AN ANYWAY DISCUSSIONS ON THESE ITEMS OR WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEM OUT? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT I MOVE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NUMBER 3 AND MOVE THE MOTIONS FOR NUMBER 4 AND 5 FOR APPROVAL. ANY
DISCUSSION? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTION? AND THOSE MOTIONS CARRY. NEXT WE'LL TAKE UP OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS REFLECTED IN ITEMS NUMBER 1 AND THEN AFTER
THAT, ITEM NUMBER 2 ON THE AGENDA. ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP FOR THESE ITEMS WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES EACH TO TESTIFY. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE SEE OUR CLERKS AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE OUTSIDE THE HALL. FOR EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO MAY PARTICIPATE IN OUR HEARINGS OR
COMMENT PERIOD, LET ME OFFER THIS NOTICE. THESE HEARINGS ARE BEING RECORDED AND BROADCAST. BOTH THE RECORDING AND THE BROADCAST ARE CLASSIFIED AS PUBLIC DATA UNDER THE MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT DATA PRACTICES ACT. BY ATTENDING AND PARTICIPATING IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, YOUR IMAGE
AND ANY TESTIMONY OR INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED WILL ALSO BE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE UNDER THAT LAW. THAT INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO YOUR ATTENDANCE, YOUR NAME, AND OTHER PERSONAL DETAILS YOU PROVIDE, AS WELL AS ANY TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS YOU PROVIDE, WHICH INCLUDES ANY WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS YOU MAKE,
WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD OF THIS MEETING. ON THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONSIDER MAYOR MAYOR FREY'S NOMINATION. TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY MAYOR FREY WHO IS WITH US TODAY,
WHO I'LL NOW INVITE TOPEAK ON BEHALF OF HIS NOMINATION. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE COUNCIL. I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. I'M VERY PROUD TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE KAYLA McCONNON DIAZ MY CHOICE TO CONTINUE LEADING THE MINNEAPOLIS
CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. FOR OVER 10 YEARS SHE'S BROUGHT IMMENSE PASSION, SOME SHARP EXPERTISE, AND A STRONG COMMITMENT TO CIVIL RIGHTS WORK HERE IN OUR CITY. HAVING SERVED AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION AND EVEN AS AN INVESTIGATOR HERSELF, SHE KNOWS
THIS DEPARTMENT INSIDE AND OUT. SHE DOESN'T NEED TIME TO GET UP TO SPEED, SHE'S ALREADY DRIVING THESE RESULTS, AND AS A RESULT, STAFF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE WORK AND IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO LIVE, WORK IN, AND VISIT THE CITY. UNDER HER LEADERSHIP AND IN LINE WITH OUR
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THE DEPARTNT COMPLETED ITS PORTION OF THE HISTORIC 234-CASE OPCR BACKLOG. I WANT TO NOTE THE PLACE OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN AND THE PLACE THAT IT IS IN NOW.
AND THE JUXTAPOSITION IS STARK. THE BACKLOG WAS GROWING. WE WERE NOT SEEING THE CASES DRAW DOWN. AND BECAUSE OF A COMBINATION OF KAYLA'S GREAT WORK AS WELL AS THE WORK OF FORMER DIRECTOR MICHELLE PHILLIPS, AND THEIR WHOLE TEAMS,
THE BACKLOG'S GONE. THIS WAS A REAL STAIN ON THE DEPARTMENT AND OUR ABILITY TO CARRY OUT THE NECESSARY REFORMS AND CULTURE SHIFT, AND TO THEIR GREAT CREDIT, AND THE INCREDIBLE STAFF IN CIVIL RIGHTS, THE BACKLOG IS
GONE AND THAT'S BY OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT -- WHY OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS RECOGNIZED FOR EXCELLENCE. THEY INVESTIGATE THOROUGHLY AND TRANSPARENTY AND THEY PREACT -- PROTECT RESIDENTS. UNDER HER, OUR LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT DIVISION WILL REMAIN A POWERHOUSE FOR ECONOMIC JUSTICE,
TRUE COMPLIANCE MEANS PARTNERING WITH AND EDUCATING OUR BUSINESSES, ASIDE FROM JUST PENALIZING THEM. IT MEANS WORKING WITH THEM. THIS INCLUDES PROVIDING OVER 4,000 FREE TECHNICAL SUPPORT SESSIONS TO HELP LOCAL BUSINESSES THRIVE WHILE DOING RIGHT BY THEIR
TEAMS. AS FAR AS PROTECTED CLASSES, GO, MINNEAPOLIS CONTINUES TO LEAD THE COUNTRY IN PROGRESSIVE CIVIL RIGHTS WORK AND MS. McCONNON DIAIR EZ'S HAND ON LEADERSHIP WAS HISTORIC. WE ARE ONE OF JUST A HANDFUL OF
CITIES NATIONWIDE TO EXPLICIT BAN DISCRIMINATION BASED ON HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. WE CODIFIED PROTECTIONS FOR HOUSING STATUS SO HOUSING INSECURITY ISN'T A BARRIER TO OPPORTUNITY, AND WE BANNED DISCRIMINATION AGAINST JUSTICE IMPACTED INDIVIDUALS TO ENSURE REAL PATHWAYS TO A
SECOND, TO A SECOND CHANCE. THROUGHOUT HER TIME AND LEADERSHIP, CIVIL RIGHTS MADE IMPORTANT AMENDMENTS TO ALL OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE. IN CONCLUSION, THE NOMINEE HERE HAS BEEN WILLING TO STAY DOING THE WORK THROUGH HISTORICALLY TOUGH
TIMES BECAUSE OF HER PASSION FOR THE WORK THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY. I KNOW THAT KAYLA IN THIS ROLE AND HER INCREDIBLE STAFF BEHIND HER WILL CONTINUE TO ROBUSTLY ENFORCE CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS FOR EVERYONE IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND AT A TIME WHEN WE'VE WITNESSED CIVIL RIGHTS
SETBACKS, IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE KAYLA AT THE HELM IN OUR CITY. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING NATIONWIDE, WE CAN DO THE WORK HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS TO SHOW THAT WE'RE A BEACON AND AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. SO I AM
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NOMINATION. THERE IS SIMPLY NO ONE BETTER SUITED TO ELEVATE THIS CRITICAL WORK, AND SEE IT THROUGH TO FULL IMPLEMENTATION. COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I ASK FOR YOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR FREY. BEFORE WE PROCEED TO PUBLIC
HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY MINORITY LEADER WONSLEY AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, MINORITY LEADER WONSLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR VOTE REFLECTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> YES, I WOULD. >> AND I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE IN APPROVAL? >> YEP, AFFIRMATIVE. >> AND CLERKS, IF YOU CAN NOTE THAT, PLEASE. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO PROCEED TO OPEN THE
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPOINTMENT. THE FIRST PERSON ON THIS LIST, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO READ IT AS ELIGIBLE AS I CAN IS I THINK THE NAME SAYS BETHANY. IF YOU'RE HERE. THAT WOULD BE NUMBER 1. BETHANY NBER 1.
AND I KNOW THAT FOLKS MAYBE SIGNING UP FOR DIFFERENT TESTIMONY HERE TODAY AND THEY MAY BE CONFUSING THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS THATRE HAPPENING, BUT BETHANY 5 PIVY, NUMBER 1. IF NOT THE NEXT BERN WO -- PERSON WOULD BE
FRANKLIN, LAST NAME STARTS WITH AN R, NUMBER 2. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME'S FRFRANKLIN REED, R.-E-E-D. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF KAYLA. DIRECTOR OF THE MINNEAPOLIS DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL RIGHTS. THOUGH I HAIL FROM IOWA, PLEASE DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST ME AT ALL: I HAVE LIVED HERE MUCH OF MY ADULT LIFE. I ATTENDED LAW SCHOOL HERE, I WAS MARRIED HERE. I RAISED THREE WONDERFUL CHILDREN IN THIS CITY.
AND I STILL RESIDE IN THE CITY. PROFESSIONALLY I SERVED AS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR SIX YEARS, AND I WAS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEYOND THAT. AND I HAVE, I HAD THE FORESIGHT
DURING THAT TIME TO ELEVATE KAYLA TO HER FIRST LEADERSHIP POSITION WITHIN THE CITY. AND WITH THOSE YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND EXPERIENCE I BELIEVE THAT I CAN STATE THE FOLLOWING THAT THE DEFININGHALLENGE FACING GOVERNMENT AT THIS POINT
IN HISTORY AS A DEFICIT PUBLIC FAITH. TO REBUILD THATRUST, PROVEN LEADERS ARE NEEDED TO PLACE THE NEEDS OF OTHERS BEFORE THEMSELVES. LEADERS WHO KNOW THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE OF THE CITY. LEADERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO SOLVING PROBLEMS AND
TRANSPARENT WAY. LEADERS WHO WILL WORK WITH ANYONE TO ACHIEVE THE BETTER GOALS AND FIND A WAY FORWARD. KAYLA IS THAT TYPE OF LEADER WHO WILL CREATE STABILITY AND CONTINUITY ON ALL THESE POINTS AS A DIRECTOR OF THE
CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. AND SHE WILL EFFORT TO EXCEL. I THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU DWRVMENT LIKE TO ACKNOAC-- I LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AFTER THIS ITEM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE VOTES ON THE OTHERTUFF. NEXT
UP WE HAVE VIVIANA FROM WARD 5. THAT'S NUMBER 3. NUMBER 1 CAN GO NEXT.
>> SO GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS VIVIANA SAL VARZAR WHERE I AM FROM -- SALAZAR FROM WARD 5. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF MINNEAPOLIS CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION AND I'M HERE TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORTF KAYLA McCANON DIAIR OZCONFIRMATION
AS DIRECTOR OF SYBIL RIGHTS. OVER THE PAST YEARS -- CIVIL RIGHTS. OVER THE PAST YEARS I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH KAYLA, AND I'VE SEEN FIRSTHANDHE KIND OF LEADER SHE IS. SHE BIEVES IN PARTNERSHIPS, SHE LISTENS, AND SHE UERSTANDS THAT THE STRONGT POLICIES ARE BUILT BY
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, THE COMMISSION, THE DEPARTMEN THE MAYOR,ND TY COUNCIL WORKED COLLABORATIVELY, COLLABORATIVELY TO ADVANCE IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS, INCLUDING JUSTICE IMPACTED STATUS, HOUSING STATUS,
AND HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. KAYLA CREATED A SPACE FORONEST DIALOGUE AND MEANINGFUL COLLABORATION, SHE RESPECTED THE POSITION'S ROLE, WELCOMED OUR INPUT AND WORKED WITH US TO MOVE POLICIES FORWARD THAT WILL MAKE A LASTING DIFFERENCE FOR
MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. SHE ALSO EXPANDED OUR REACH BEYOND MINNEAPOLIS BY BRINGING THE DEPARTMENT INTO THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF OFFICIAL HUMAN RIGHTS AGENCIES. SHE ENSURED THAT I AS CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE, WHERE I SAW HOW RESPECTED
MINNEAPOLIS IS AMONG CIVIL RIGHT AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AT A TIME WHEN MANY CITIES WERE SCALING BACK THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS WORK, MINNEAPOLIS STOOD OUT BECAUSE OF THE STRENGTH, STABILITY, AND VISION FOR THIS DEPARTMENT. WHAT I APPRECIATE THE MOST ABOUT KAYLA IS THAT SHE
LEADS WITH INTEGRITY, SHE BUILDS RELATIONSHIPS, AND SHE EMPOWERS OTHERS, AND KEEPS THE FOCUS ON SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. SHE UNDERSTANDS THE PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS REQRES BOTH COURAGE AND COLLABORATION. I'M PROUD TO
SUPPORT HER NOMINATION BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS THE EXPERIENCE, THE VALUES, AND THE LEADERSHIP THE CITY NEEDS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. BETHANY?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. RITZ LOVELY TO SEE YOU ALL. LOVE TO SEE ALL THESE YOUNG STUDENTS HERE. MY NAME IS BETHANY LORRAINEIOTY. I LIVE IN THE FALLWELL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE SERVED AS AN MPS EDUCATOR ON THEORTH
SIDE FOR 15 YEARS. MY FIRST YEAR AS MPS EDUCATOR I MET YOU. I AM QUEER. I'M ALSO A WIDOW. H SPECIAL NEEDS AND A NEW
HOMEOWNER ON THE NORTH SIDE THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR PROGRAM. I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR MY STUDENTS ABOVE ALL ANYTHING ELSE. AND I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THE FAMILIES THAT I SERVE IN MPS AND AT THIS POINT
IN TIME, WHILE I DO NOT REPRESENT MPS, IT IS A PART OF WHO I AM AS MY IDENTITY. SO IN MY SERVICE TO THE NORTH SIDE I HAVE WITNESSED CNTLESS ACTS OF POLICE BRUTALITY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND MY STUDENTS. MY
STUDENTS REPORTED AN INCREASE IN ANXIETY AND DISTRUST TOWARDS OUR POLICE AND EACH OTHER DURING OPERATION METRO SURGE, AND THEY DESERVE TO ALLOW THEIR NERVOUS SYSTEMS TO HEAL. SO THAT THEY CAN RETURN TO THE GREAT WORK
THAT THEY ARE DOING. THE PRESENCE OF DRONES WILL SIMPLY SERVE TO ACTIVATE AN ALREADY ACTIVATED COMMUNITY -- >> I DON'T MEAN T INTERRUPT YOU, BUTS THAT'S THE NEXT TOPIC SO THE DRONE CONVERSATION IS THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. >> WELL. >> THIS IS ABOUT OUR DIRECTOR, SO IF YOU CAN KEEP IT TO THE
TOPIC OF THE DIRECTOR. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO THE DIRECTOR, BUT -- >> OKAY,OOL. IF YOU ARE HERE R THE DRONE CONVERSATION, AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, THERE ARE FOLKS OUTSIDE THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP TO TESTIFY, AND THAT'S, I KIND OF HAD A FEENG THAT FOLKS WHO -- THERE'S TWO PUBLIC
HEARINGS. THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIRECTOR. F YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY ON THE DRONE SITUATION,. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND IPOLOGIZE FOR TAKING ALL YOUR TIME. >> TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. MICHELLE PHILLIPS.
NUMBER 4. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MICHELLE PHILPS, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK I SUPPORT OF KAELA
McCONNON DIARA. I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HER LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. DURING A TIME OF UNCERTAINTY AND ALIC OF STABILITY -- A LACK OF STABILITY, KAELA STEPPED UP. SHE HAS BEEN A VITAL STAPLE WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT FOR 10
YEARS. SHE'S GROWN UP IN THAT DEPARTMENT FROM AN INVESTIGATOR TO THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND NOW TO THE INTERIM DIRECTOR: AS A FORMER DIRECTOR OF SYBIL RIGHTS --F CIVIL RIGHTS, I WAS ABLE TO WORK WIT HER. SHE TAUGHT ME A LOT. I SAT DOWN AND I REALIZED THAT SHE ALLOWED ME
TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT FOR A TIME CERTAIN. IT WAS HER DEPARTMENT. SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT. I HELPED HER TO REALIZE THAT FACT, BRING HER ALONG AS WE STABILIZED OUR DIVISIONS, WE WORKED WITH SEVERAL OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS AS WELL AS THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE ADMINISTRATION, TO LET THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT UNDERSTD THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. KAELA LED THAT CHARGE. WE MADE SURE THAT WE WERE OUT IN COMMUNITY, WE ESTABLISHED SOME VERY STRONG CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS WITH
SEVERAL OF YOU, AS WELL AS WORKED ON OUR CCPO ORDINAN, STABILIZED THAT COMMISSION. SHE HELPED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I STEPPED BACK, ANDHE LED. S LED WITH INTEGRITY, WITH
TRANSPARENCY, AND WITH COURAGE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOWBACK FOR WHERE WE WERE, BUT SHE SAW WHERE THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY COULD GO. I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THIS YOUNG
LADY TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS DEPARTMENT FORWARD, TO CONTINUE TO CULTIVATE THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, TO GROW THEM, TO CONTINUE ONITH THE SUCCESSION PLAN. TO STRENGTHEN THOSE PROTECTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,
EVERYBODY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GOING THREE TILES. TIMES. ALL RIGHT SEEING NO ONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, I WILL NOW --
AY, I WILL NOW CLOSE -- WE'RE GOOD? OKAY, I WILL NOISE CLOSED INVITE THE NOMINEE OR MAYOR FREY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, VERY BRIEFLY. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE HOW COOL IT IS THAT FORMER DIRECTOR MICHELLE PHILLIPS CAME
TO THIS PARTICULAR HEARING, BOTH SHE AND KAYLA WERE OBVIOUSLY REALLY IMPORTANT PARTNERS IN TRANSITIONING THIS CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AND DOING SOME EFFECTIVE WORK BUT THE FACT THAT SHE TBLIEW ACROSS THE -- FLEW ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM OAKLAND
TO TESTIFY FOR TWO MINUTES ON THE DOT, I JUST THINK IS REALLY AMAZING. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MRCHAIR, FOR THE BRIEF COMMEN >> NO WORRIES. WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
CHAIR CHAVEZ, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE MAYOR FOR THE NOMINATION, AND THE CONFIDENCE IN ME TO CONTINUE DOING THIS WORK AND THE PERMANENT DIRECTOR ROLE AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO THANK OF COURSE
YOU ALL AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERING THAT NOMINATION TODAY. IT HAS BEEN BOTH A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR TO HAVE WORKED WITHIN THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED I'VE HELD A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ROLES WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT, BOTH AS AN INVESTIGATOR, A DIVISION DIRECTOR, A DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND THEN AS INTERIM DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR AND I'VE CHOSEN TO STAY IN THIS DEPARTMENT TO GROW MY CAREER IN THIS DEPARTMENT, AND I'M ENERGIZED AND INSPIRED TO TAKE ON THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I BELIEVE SO STRONGLY IN
THE WORK THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT DOES. IT TRULY IS IMPACTFUL WORK THAT REALLY HAS IMPACT ON ALL THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AND WORK IN AND VISIT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE IMPACT OF THE SY CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT I THINK IS BOTH
VARIED AND VAST. IT INCLUDES A PERSON RECEIVING BACK WAGES W MAY HAVE BEEN MAKING LESS THAN THE CITY'S MINIMUM WAG A. FAMILY WITH SECTION 8 HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE HOUSING OF THEIR CHCE, A MOBITARY CELT -- MONETARY SETTLEMENT FOR A VICTIM OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION
POLICE OFFICER RECEIVING DISCIPLINE WHEN THEY ENGAGED IN INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR, OR A SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS GETTING ACCESS TO WORK ON CITY CONTRACTS. THIS WORK REALLY IMPORTANTLY HELPS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, IT MAKES THEM WHOLE AFTER THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE
BEEN VIOLATED OR ENSURES EQUITABLE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT ALSO HAS A MUCH BROADER IMPT IN CREATING A MORE JUST MINNEAPOLIS. CASES INVESTIGATED IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT OFTEN BRING ABOUT LARGE SCALE CHANGE IN PRACTICE AND POLICY. THEY RAISE
AWARENESS AND PROMOTE EDUCATION AROUND CIVIL RIGHTS AND WHAT RIGHTS FOLKS HAVE IN OUR CITY IN A WAY THAT TRULY PREVENTS CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. I'M THRILLED AT THE OPPORTUTY TO CONTINUE TO LEAD THIS DEPARTMENT INTO THAT FUTURE AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE TGIBLE, IMPACTFUL
OUTCOMES THAT MAKE FOR A MORE JUST MINNEAPOLIS. I SEE THE ROLE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AS BRINGING TO LIFE THE PROTECTIONS THAT YOU ALL WORK SO HARD TO PUT INTO ORDINANCE AND INTO LAW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE. THOSE LAWS ARE FOUNDATIONAL AND VITAL TO
BEING ABLE TO HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS, BUT THEY BECOME THAT MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL WHEN WE ROBUSTLY ENFORCE THEM, AND THAT'S A, A RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE DEPARTMENT, I AS THE LEADER AND OUR ENTIRE STAFF TAKE INCREDIBLY SERIOUSLY. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WITHIN THE CIVIL
RIGHTS DEPARTMT, AND I DO JUST WANT TO NOTE EACH OF THE TES OF WORK THAT WE DO. WE HAVE OUR OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW, WHICH INVESTIGATES COMPLAINT OF MISCONDUCT AINST MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICERS, AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY COMPLAINTS THAT ARE MADE BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. WE HAVE
OUR COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, WHICH ENFORCES OUR CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE AND DOES ALL OUR ANTIDISCRIMINATION WORK, INVESTIGATES DISCRIMINATION ALLEGATIONS. WE HAVE OUR LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, WHICH ENFORCES ALL OF OUR CITY LEVEL LABOR LAWS THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT. AND WE HAVE OUR CONTRACT
COMPLIANCE DIVISION THAT ENSURES EQUITY IN CITY CONTRACTING. OUR COLLECTIVE VISION, WHICH WE DRAFTED AS A DEPARTMENT IS AS THE PEOPLE'S INVESTIGATOR, WE STRIVE TO ELIMINATE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, BY ROOTING OURSELVES IN SERVICE, JUSTICE,
AND COMMUNITY, AND WORKING TO REMOVE THE SYSTEMIC AND INSTITUTIONAL BARRIERS THAT CAUSE HARM. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY. I THINK IT REALLY ACCURATELY ENCOMPASSES OUR ULTIMATE GROHL ACROSS ALL -- GOAL ACROSS ALL OF OUR STAFF AND ALL OF OURODIFFERENT DIVISIONS.
MY VISION AS DEPARTMENT LEADER WHICH I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU ALL OF YOU IN VARIOUS FORMS IS I WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS TRULY THE CIVIL RIGHTS AGENCY OF FIRST RESORT. WE WANT TO BE THE FIRST FOLKS THAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN INFRINGED O OR VIOLATED HERE IN THE CITY OF
MINNEAPOLIS AND WE WANT THEM TO COME TO US BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE AND EY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN ACCESS RVICES. BUT WE ALSO WANT THEM TO COME TO US BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT THROUGHOUT THEIR, THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS, AND THAT WE'RE HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL, OBJECTIVE, AND REALLY PRODUCE
THOSE IMPACTFUL OUTCOMES. I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN CIVIL RIGHTS UP TO THIS POINT TO ALREADYAKE THIS VISION A REALI. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE ENGAGED IN A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTMENT RESTRUCTURE, STAFFED UP AND RETAINED HIGHLY TALENTE STAFF,
MAINTAINING A DEPARTMENT THAT IS LARGELY FULLY SFFED FOR THE FIRST TIMEN RECENT MEMORY,. WE'VE IMPROVED CASE TIMELINES, CLEARED INVESTIGATIVE BACKLOGS, INCREASED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND WORKED WITH YOU ALL TO STRETHEN EACH OF THE ORDINANCES WE ENFORCE WITHIN THE
HAVE ENGAGED IN CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR AGENCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT. IN IS NEW TERM I WILL CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE ENSURING THAT WE ARE THE PREMIER CIVIL RIGHTS AGENCY DOING ENFORCEMENTORK IN MINNEAPOLIS, PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE, EFFICIENT, AND EFFECTIVE SERVICES TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I WILL
TAKE ON THE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE OF NAVIGATING THE CHANGING CIVIL RIGHTS LANDSCAPE AND CHARTING A SUSTAINABLE AND EFFECTIVE COURSE THROUGH UNCERTAINTY. CONTINUING TO ENSURE THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS A LEADER IN PROVIDING ROBUST CIVIL RIGHTS -- PROTECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENTS. I WL CONTINUE
TO FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT ENSURING EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION OF AMENDMENTS TO OUR CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCES AS WELL AS CONTINUED PROGRESS TOWARDS THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS BECAUSE
OF THE INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP, TEAM, AND STAFF IN VIL RIGHTS, AND ESPECIALLY LEADERSHIP TEAM BOTH PAST AND PRESENT. AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN CIVIL RIGHTS ARE LEADERSHIP AND OUR STAFF ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AT DOING THEIR JOBS, AND GETTING TO WORK ALONGSIDEHEM EVERY DAY REALLY MAKES IT A JOY TO COME INTO
WORK. THEIR MISSION DRIVEN, PASSIONATE, AND COMMITTED TO THIS WORK. I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRATIC AND PARTICIPATORY LEADERSHIP. I LEAD BY ASKING FOR INPUT, COLLABORATING, AND SEEKING SHARED DIVISIONS. LEADERSHIP AND STAFF IN CIVIL RIGHTSRE INCREDIBLE THOUGHT PARTNERS AND THEIR IDEAS AND
PERSPECTIVES ARE ABSOLUTELY FOUNDATIONAL TO THE DEPARTMENT'S SUCCESS. I DO AND WILL INTO THE FUTURE CONSISTENTLY PRIORITIZE STAFF SUPPORT, ENGAGEMENT, AND ENGAGEMENT AS THE DEPARTMENT'S LEADER. CIVIL RIGHTS WORK IS HARD WORK.IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD WHEN WE SEE SUCH DRASTIC AND TROUBLING SHIFTS IN CIVIL RIGHTS
PROTECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ALONGSIDE THE MINNEAPOLIS SPECIFIC CHALLENGES THA WE WE'VE FACED OVER THE LAST YEAR. I COMMITTED TO ENSURING STAFF FEEL SUPPORTED, VALD AND RESPECTED AND HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO DO THIS WORK SUSTAINABLY. I'M INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR
THEIR TRUST IN ME AS A LEADER AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR COMMITMENT, THEY CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO ENFORCING THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF EVERYONE IN MINNEAPOLIS. I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING IN CIVIL RIGHTS. I THANK YOU ALL ON CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, THE CITY OPERATIONS OFFICER, AND OTHER CITY LEADERSHIPOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP
IN THIS WORK AND I REMAIN INCREDIBLY HOPEFUL ABOUT WHAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TO TS COMMITTEE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR KAELA
McCONNON DIARRA. I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT YOUR APPOINTMENT ANDO LEAD THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AND EXCITED TO SEE YOU IN THIS NEW AND PERMANENT ROLE. NOT NECESSARILY NEW BUT NEW IN TERMS OF BEING A PERMANENT ROLE FOR YOU. I HOPE. AND I THINK ABOUT
THE WORK THAT MY OFFICE MINORITY LEADER WONSLEY DID TOGETHER WITH YOU, YOUR DEPARTMENT, AND YOUR INCREDIBLE CITY STAFF TO EXPAND THE PROTECTED CLASSES HERE I THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND IT WAS COLLABORATIVE
AND I THINK ABOUT THE APPROACH WE DID IN THAT WORK AND THE APPROACH YOU HAVE DONE WITH YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT, THE PASSION YOU BRING TO GIVE A VOICE TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION, AND TO THOSE THAT WORK WITH YOU SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT YOUR APPOINTMENT, AND
I'LL MOVE THIS FOR APPROVAL IF I CAN GET A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> AND COLLEAGUES, WE ARE USING -- OKAY, I DIDN'T LOOK. >> IT'S OKAY. >> OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. >> I DON'T LET THESE GET BY WITHOUT TALKING. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I TOO SUPPORT YOUR
REAPPOINTMENT AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A WONDERFUL MEETING TO JUST CATCH UP. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PASSION THAT YOU BRING TO THIS JOB, AND I WOULD SAY MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOUR PASSION TO EDUCATE. SOME OF THE MOST COMPLICATED THINGS I'VE HAD TO
WORK OUT WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT BEHIND THE SCENES. YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN THIS TALK IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT PROTECTED CLASS BUT YOU DO A LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES, THAT SUPPORT PEOPLE'S EVERY DAYS HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS, AND I APPRECIATE
THE PASSION THAT YOU BRING TO THAT. AND THE BIGGEST THING, I WOULD BE REMISS THE MIRACLE YOU PULLED OFF IN GETTING THROUGH THOSE CASES. I JUST REALLY NEVER THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR WE WERE
TOLD IT'S HAPPENING BUT IT'S NOT HAPPENING. SO LIKE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THROUGH THOSE CASES AND TO GIVE ME AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THE FREEDOM TO SAY TO CONSTITUENTS WHO WERE WATCHING THAT SO CLOSELY THAT IT'S DONE.
WE HAVE ZERO -- THERE IS NO BACKLOG. REALLY NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DAY WHEN I GOT TO SAY THERE IS NO BACKLOG BECAUSE THERE WERE JUST YEARS OF US BEING AT A STAND STILL WITH THOSE CASES. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT REALLY SHOWED ME HOW COMMITTED YOU ARE AND HOW
COMMITTED YOUR TEAM IS TO MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS TRANSPARENT AND THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS PROVIDING A SERVICE TO RESIDENTS THAT THEY REALLY WANT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I'M FOREVER GRATEFUL TO YOU FORMER DIRECTOR PHILLIPS AND THE ENTIRE
TEAM FOR DOING THAT WORK. I KNOW IT WAS HEAVY LOAD BUT IT GOT DONE, AND I'M PROUD OF WHAT YOU ALL DID, YOUR ENTIRE TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS DONE. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THIS BEFORE BUT JUST WANTED TO KNOW LIKE WHAT DO YOU
SEE AS YOUR BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT SO FAR IN THIS ROLE? > YEAH SO IT'S HARD TO NARROW IT DOWN, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT'S HARD TO NARROW IT WN TO ONE. I THINK THAT THE MAYBE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY IS ONE, BUILDING THE
INCREDIBLE TEAM THAT WE HAVE. E STAFFING UP ON THE DEPARTMENT AND STAFFING UP WITH REALLY TALENTED HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOLKS HAS REALLY BEEN THE FOUNDATION OF HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD, HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH ESPECIALLY IN THOSE INVESTIGATIVE CASES AND MOVING THOSE FORWARD. BUT ALSO THE STAFF WE'VE BROUGHT IN REALLY HAVE DEVELOPED REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND MEANINGFUL BONDS ACROSS THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIPS AND ACROSS THEIR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND THAT REALLY IS KIND OF THE GLUE THAT I SEE THAT ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE
FORWARD IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. DOING REALLY CHALLENGING WORK, BUT BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO IT EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, AND SUSTAINABLY. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE, AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED BY CHAIR CHASCREES -- CHAVEZ BUT I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE EXPANDED PROTECTED CLASSES
AND THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE. I THINK IT'S SO MEANINGFUL TT AT A TIME THAT WE'RE SEEING REALLY SHAKY GROUND FOR A LOT OF CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT MINNEAPOLIS WAS COMMITTED TO MOVING FORWARD WITH EXPANDING THOSE PROTECTIONS, WITH BEING
CREATIVE, INNOVATIVE, RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY AND REALLY MAKING TRUE CHANGES IN ORDINANCE AND THEN IN PRACTICE AND ENFORCEMENT IN THE WORK THAT WE DO TO REALLY MO THE NDLE IN A POSITIVE WAY WHICH IS REALLY CONTRARY TO WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY SO THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD
SAY I'M MOST PROUD OF. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WHAT INITIATIVES OR PROJECTS ARE YOU MOST EXCITED ABOUT ADVANCING IF YOU'RE CONFIRMED? >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE QUESTION. O THING'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS EXPLORING WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A
CIVIL RIGHTS AGENCY IN THIS KIND OF NEW LANDSCAPE. HOW CAN WE REALLY BE A STANDOUT LEADER AND AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT IS TO CONTINUE TOOBUSTLY ENFORCE CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS DESPITE EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING AROUND US. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH MY STAFF AND
WE'RE KIND OF IN THE INFANCY OF SOME O THESE THOUGHTS, BUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO EXPAND OUR REACH INTO CIVIL RIGHTS INTO MORE OF A HUMAN RIGHTS SPACE AND WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS CAN WE BUILD ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE A VERY SIMILAR SET OF VALUES A
VERY SIMILAR SET OF PRIORITIES AROUND CIVIL RIGHTS ENFORCEMENT WORK AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO AGAIN CONTINUE TO INNOVATE, LEAD, ME THE NEEDLE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. >> THANK YOU. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS ROLE? >> YEAH. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, ANOTHER
GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU. THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE PROBABLY FOR ME IN MY TENURE IN CIVIL RIGHTS HAS BEEN SOME OF THE INSTABILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT. T I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR HOW STABLE THE DEPARTMENT IS NOW. I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, MICHELLE PHILLIPS, AND
HER PARTNERSHIP IN MOVING THE DEPARTMENT INTO JUST A REALLY STABLE AND SUSTAINABLE PLACE, ONE MAKING IT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO WORK, AND TWO MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN ENJOY EACH OTHER AND ALSO DO EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE PROFESSIONAL
WORK. WE CAN DO THOSE TWO THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, AND SO THAT, THAT WAS A CHALLENGE, BUT ONE THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS LARGELY BEEN OVERCOME AND SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY APPRECIIVE AND GRATEFUL FOR. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. >> COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. TOO I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING YOU, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE BACKLOG ISSUE. THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH YOU AND I'MMPRESSED WITH YOUR ENERGY AND WE SAID A LONG -- WE HAD LONG TALK ABOUT YOU VISION
FOR THE FUTURE AND AGREE WITH YOU00%. AND LAST I WANT TO TELL YOU HOW IMPRESSED I WAS THAT PAST DIRECTOR PHILLIPS CAME TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF. YOUR WORDS WERE VERY WELL TAKEN, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR NEW DIRECTOR. >> COUNCILMEMBER WHITING.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR AND SOON TO BE I ASSUME PERMANENT DIRECTOR FOR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW NOTES AND A FEW SECONDS TO GIVE YOU YOUR FLOWERS HERE. I THINK THE TRUE MARK OF LEADERSHIP IS SHOWN
BY THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH AND AS WE SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE CITY BUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT ITSELF I THINK SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT DEDICATION AND EXPERTISE LOOKS LIKE IN A DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW
WE HAVE MANY HERE THAT ARE SITTING HERE, BUT WHAT A LOT WON'T SEE ON THIS BRAWBS AND IN THESE CHAMBERS -- BROADCAST AND IN THESE CHAMBERS, THERE ARE 20 MORE OUTSIDE OF THIS CHAMBER. WHEN I WAS WALKING OUT THERE, THIS IS A FULL, A PACKED ROOM FOR YOUR SUPPORT HERE. AND SO
ONE, I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A QUICK STORY. MY FIRST FORAY INTO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT YOU INTERVIEWED ME AS A COMMISSIONER ON THE MINNEAPOLIS CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION, AND THAT WAS MY FIRST KIND OF INTERACTION TO THE
CITY AND WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THAT WAS A, NOT ONLY A POSITIVE DEMEANOR AND INDIVIDUAL BUT SOMEBODY THAT DEEPLY CARES ABOUT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND RESPECTS WHAT THIS WORK IS AND THE SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO I HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOUR LEADERSHIP OVER THE NEXT HOPEFULLY CONTINUOUS 10 MORE YEARS IN THIS ROLE, AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, SPECIFICALLY AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TO THE BACKLOG WITHIN OPCR AND THEN MORE I THINK POINTEDLY,
WITH THE TURNOVER AND VACANT POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN I THINK PERMEATED THROUGHOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MANY WON'T SEE IS THAT VERSION OF STABILITY HERE IN OUR OFFICE. SO THANK YOU AND I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO SUPPORT YOUR MINATION.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SUPPORT YOU IN THIS ROLE. AND YOU'VE JUST BEEN SUCH A GREAT PARTNER AND SO MUCH JUST TRANSFORMATIONAL WORK OVER THE YEARS, AND I JUST WANT TO
JUST MAKE SURE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE JUST THE FACT THAT THIS IS SUCH A GENERATIONAL WORK SO IT FEELS ONLY FITTING THAT THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR CAME TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF BECAUSE, WE'VE ALL BEEN IN THE TRENCHES TOGETHER, AND WE KNOW THAT THE WORK HAS LIKE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS BUT WE KNOW THAT THE WORK IS NOT DONE, AND
I'M, IT JUST FEELS SO GOOD TO KNOW NAT WE GET TO SUPPORT YOU -- THAT WE GET TO SUPPORT YOU IN HAVING THE SUSTAINED LEADERSHIP THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES ON AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> NOBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR. ON A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH APPROVAL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR VOTE AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? THAT ITEM CARRIES. COLLEAGUES, WE'RE GOING TO GO ONTO OUR NEXT ITEM. BEFORE THAT, WITHOUT
OBJECTION -- PPLAUSE] CLAPS, YES. WITHOUT OBJECTION, CLERKS, IF YOU CAN PLEASE MARK VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AS A AYE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WE VOTED ON EARLIER TODAY. ANY
OBJECTIONS? GREAT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO INC. FOR A DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDER PILOT PROGRAM. IF YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE SIGN
UP WITH THE CLERKS. I THINK
THERE ARE 39 PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND EQUITY COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS ANDY SKOOGMAN. I'M CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY HERE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPIS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TODAY ON A PROPOSED
DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDER PILOT PROJECT. AT ITS CORE, DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS OR DFR WE BELIEVE IN A FAIRLY SIMPLE CONCEPT. WHEN CERTAIN 9-1-1 CALLS ARE RECEIVED A DRONE CAN LAUNCH IMMEDIATELY, ARRIVE AHEAD OF FIRST RESPONDERS, AND PROVIDE LIVE VIDEO SO 9-1-1 DISPATCHERS,
OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, EMS PERSONNEL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE THEY ARRIVE OR IF THEY SHOULD GO AT ALL. TODAY'S HEARING IS ABOUT EXPLORING WHETHER USING TECHNOLOGY IN THIS MANNER HAS A PLACE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, NOT DECIDING THAT
IT DOES. OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND MPD HAVE WORKED WITH MULTIPLE VENDORS, WE'VE WORKED WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS, WE'VE REVIEWED CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA, WE'VE EVALUATED AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY AND STUDIED HOW SIMILAR PROGRAMS ARE OPERATING IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE METRO
AREA, ACROSS THE STATE, AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER VETAW FOR BRINGING FORWARD A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THIS SPRING THAT HELPED MOVE THIS CONVERSATION FORWARD AND CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TODAY'S PUBLIC DISCUSSION. SO THANK YOU. PUBLIC SAFETY IS
CHANGING RAPIDLY AND TECHNOLOGY IS BECOMING AN INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR HELPING CITIES RESPOND MORE EFFICIENTLY, MORE SAFELY, AND WITH BETTER INFORMATION. DRONES ARE NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR POLICE OFFICERS, FOR FIREFIGHTERS, FOR EMS PERSONNEL OR OTHER FIRST
RESPONDERS, THEY'RE SIMPLY A TOOL THAT HELPS ENSURE THE RIGHT RESOURCES ARE SENT TO THE RIGHT CALL AT THE RIGHT TIME. IN SOME CASES, THE INFORMATION GATHERED WE BELIEVE MAY CONFIRM THAT AN IMMEDIATE POLICE, FIRE, OR EMS RESPONSE IS NEEDED, IN OTHER
SITUATIONS IT MAY SHOW NAT DIFFERENT RESPONSE -- THAT A DIFFERENT RESPONSE IS MORE APPROPRIATE SUCH AS DISPATCHING THE BEHAVIORAL CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM OR ANOTHER NONSWORN RESOURCES. ADDING SOME INSTANCES THE DRONE MAY DETERMINE THE SITUATION HAS BEEN
RESOLVED, ALLOWING THE RESOURCES TO REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR OTHER EMERGENCIES ACROSS THE CITY. MINNEAPOLIS LIKE MANY CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY CONTINUES TO FACE STAFFING CHALLENGES IF TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP US IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, ENHANCE SAFETY, AND PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE TO RESIDENTS, WE BELIEVE IT'S WORTH
EXPLORING. LASTLY I'LL ADD THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY HAVE TOLD YOU, AND THEY DID TESTIFY, DID TESTIFY BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE IN THE PAST, THAT THEY TOO COULD USE DRONES FOR A VARIETY OF REGULATORY FUNCTIONS. BUT TODAY WE REALLY DO WANT TO FOCUS ON HOW MPD WOULD LIKE TO
USE THE TECHNOLOGY SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF PATROL FOR MINNEAPOLIS POLICE, TOM CAMPBELL. >> WELCOME AND IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING THE SLIDES SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. IF YOU'RE ON THE TOPIC. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ,
VICE CHAIR STEVENSON, AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS THOMAS CAMPBELL AND I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF PATROL AND THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISION. PART OF MY DUTIES IS TO OVERSEE THE MPD DRONE UNIT. I BROUGHT WITH ME THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISION COMMANDER JOHN SIGHSETH
AND ROGER MUA WHO RUNS THE DAY TO DAY DRONE OPERATIONS FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY. I ALSO HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER LATEESIA CARDENAS WITH ME TODAY WHO WILL BE SPEAKING LATER DURING THIS PRESENTATION. TODAY JUST LIKE THE LAST DIRECTIVE TIME WE WERE
HERE IN MAY I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE GIVING YOU A PRESENTATION ON THE DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS 75-DAY NO COST PILOT PROJECT. THE PROJECT HAS IMMEDIATE BENEFITS TO MINNEAPOLIS 911, POLICE AND FIRE RESPONSE. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE MPD NOW. MPD NOW USES DRONES. SINCE 2022, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12 PILOTS WITH THEIR PART 107 LICENSES WHICH ALLOW THEM TO FLY DRONES IN THE CITY. OUR CURRENT FLEET TO DATE WE HAVE 12 EXTERIOR DRONES, AND WE HAVE 17 INTERIOR DRONES THAT
WE USE. SINCE THE FALL OF 2022, TILL TODAY, THESE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE HIGHER FROM WHEN THIS WAS, WHEN THIS WAS CREATED, BUT TODAY WE HAVE 640 TOTAL MISSIONS AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PATROL RESPONSES ALREADY AND SOME RESPONSES UNDER THE SPECIAL
OPERATIONS DIVISION. AND CURRENTLY WE DO FLY OUR DRONES FROM SQUAD TRUNKS OR FROM THE DRONE COMMAND VEHICLE IF IT IS ASKED TO COME OUT A SCENE. WHAT IS DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDER?
THE DFR FOR SHORT. IT'S THE PROACTIVE USE OF DRE DREENS -- DRONES TO IMMEDIATELY RESPOND TO A 911 CALL FOR SERVICE THAT COMES TO DISPATCH. UPON ARRIVAL THAT LIVE VIDEO IS STREAMED BACK TO DISPATCH TO WHERE THE PILOTS WILL BE SEATED. IT'LL PROVIDE THAT REAL-TIME SITUATIONAL AWARENESS TO THAT
DRONE PILOT. THAT IN TURN, THE FIRST RESPONDERS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IN REAL-TIME, I'LL SAY THE PILL FIRST RESPONDER WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IN REAL-TIME WHAT IS HAPPENING ON SCENE. THEY CAN RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO OFFICERS THAT ARE DISPATCHED OUT THERE TO GIVE THEM A MORE
INFORMED RESPONSE OR THE POSSIBILITY OF CLEARING THAT CALL LATER ON WITHOUT EVEN HAVING A POLICE SQUAD RESPONSE TO A SCENE. THE PROPOSED DFR PILOT PROJECT AS STATE IT'S A
FREE -- STATED, IT'S A FREE 75-DAY PILOT. THAT IS DRIVEN BY DATA. I'LL BE SHOWING THAT TO YOU HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. THIS IS A PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP WITH SKYDIO, THE LARGEST DRONE MANUFACTURER IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY. THEY CURRENTLY
WORK WITH FIVE AGENCIES IN MINNESOTA, ST. PAUL, DULUTH, RODCHESTER, MINNETONKA AND BROOKLYN PARK. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THEY WORK WITH 236 AGENCIES NATIONWIDE, AND 24 OF THEM ARE PART OF THE MAJOR CITY CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. THE
PURPOSE OF THE DFR PILOT PROJECT AGAIN WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT DATA TO SEE IF, IF THE DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDER CAN HELP REDUCE RESPONSE TIME TO CALLS FOR SERVICE. COULD WE HAVE CLEARED CERTAIN LOW LEVEL CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO
DISPATCH A SQUAD CAR OUT THERE? WE ALSO WANT TO TALK TO OFFICERS, SURVEY OFFICERS, SEE IF THEY FEEL THAT THIS INCREASES THEIR OVERALL SAFETY, THEIR AWARENESS ON WHAT, WHAT CALLS THEY'RE GOING ON, AND WHAT MAYBE LIES AHEAD BEFORE THEY ARRIVE.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF THIS, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THIS ALSO INCREASED THEIR SAFETY AS WELL. LASTLY, WE WANT TO SEE IF THIS COULD IMPROVE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFEFFICIENCY OF OTHER CITY SERVICES, THAT BEING FIRE, EMS DURING THIS TRIAL PERIOD BUT
LATER ON AS CHIEF OF STAFF SKOOGMAN HAD NOTED SOMETHING ALONG THE LINE OF REGULATORY SERVICES IF THEY COULD FIND BENEFITS IN THIS. AGAIN, THE TRIAL LOCATION IS AT THE FOURTH PRECINCT. WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH FROM THE FIRE STATION 14 OFF OF LOWRY AVENUE. THE PLAN
INITIALLY WILL BE TO HAVE TWO DRONE STATIONS ON TOP OF STATION 14. WE SENT OUR 2025 CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE FOURTH PRECINCT TO SKYDIO THROUGH THEIR I.T.
DEPARTMENT. THEY WENT THROUGH OUR PRIORITY ZERO AND 1 CALLS, PRIORITY ZERO AND 1 CALLS ARE HIGHEST PRIORITY CALLS THAT THE CITY HAS. THEY WERE ABLE TO SHOW THAT MPD GOT 33,402 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE PRIORITY 0
AND 1 CATEGORIES. OF THOSE CALLS, THEY PUT IT THROUGH THEIR ANALYTICAL SYSTEM, HOWEVER THEY DO IT. THEY FOUND THAT JUST HAVING TWO DRONE DOCKS ON STATION 14 COULD HAVE RESPONDED
TO 4,006 4,000 -- 4643 CALLS IN UNDER 120 SECONDS SO THAT CALL WOULD HAVE A DRONE OVER TOP IN ROUGHLY UNDER 2 MINUTES. PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. AND THA THAT -- THAT WOULD COVER, YOU KNOW, 17% OF ALL CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THAT
PRIORITY 0 AND 1 CATEGORY. INCIDENTS YOU KNOW PRIORITY 0 AND 1 INCIDENTS THESE ARE JUST -- IT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT OF A FEW OF THEM BUT PERSONS WITH WEAPONS CALLS, MEDICAL, FIRE, ACCIDENTS, AUTO THEFT IN PROGRESS, BURGLARIES, ROBBERIES,
SOUNDS OF SHOTS FIRED, IT COULD BE TO SHOT SPOTTER CALLS, FOOT VEHICLE CHASES, SHOOTINGS, STABBINGS, SUSPICIOUS PERSONS OR EVEN MISSING PERSONS. LOOKING AT THE DRONES THAT WE HOPE TO USE OUT THERE, THIS IS THE
SKYDIO 10 DRONE. THIS IS THEIR, THEIR FLAGSHIP DRONE THAT THEY USE IN ALL THEIR DFR PROGRAMS. THIS IS RATED FOR INCREMENT WEATHER WHICH IS GREAT HERE FOR MINNESOTA, RAIN AND SNOWE THEY'LL FLY. THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 45-MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME. WE'VE LEARNED, YOU KNOW, FROM ST. PAUL, MINNETONKA
THAT THAT FLIGHT TIME IS ACTUALLY DRASTICALLY REDUCED INTO MAYBE 25 MINUTES. BUT THESE WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH A PARACHUTE SO IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN WHILE IT'S FLYING FOR SOME REASON, LET'S SAY A PEREGRINE FALCON FALLS DOWN AND HITS THE DRONE THAS THE ABILITY
TO AUTO LAUNCH A PARACHUTE AND IT'LL SIFLY COME DOWN TO THE GROUND. THEY WILL HAVE POLICE MARKINGS ON THEM, RED AND BLUE LIGHTS AND REDUNDANCY IN THEIR CONNECTIVITY SO IT OPERATES ON WI-FI AND CELLULAR, SO THE POSSIBILITY OF US LOSING CONNECTION IS NEXT TO ZERO.
NEXT I'LL HAVE THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF MECC COME UP REAL QUICK. >> WELCOME. >>> I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR LEAECIA CARDENAS. WE ARE
APPROVING THE DRONE STATIONS INSIDE OF OUR LOCATION. CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE SET UP ARE TWO FLIGHT STATIONS LOCATED INSIDE OF DISPATCH. THIS WILL ALLOW MPD TO WORK ALONG WITH US AS THIS PILOT PROGRAM IS LAUNCHED, SO THAT THEY CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH THE DISPATCHERS
THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE INSIDE OF MECC. WE HAVE CREATED TWO DIFFERENT CALL SIGNS. THIS IS OUR WAY TO TRACK HOW MECC AND MPD CAN NOTE WHEN THE DRONE HAS BEEN DISPATCHED OUT TO A CALL. OUR PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON IS THAT MPD'S GOING TO SELF-ASSIGN TO ANY TYPE OF
CALL THAT THEY THINK THE DRONE CAN ASSIST WITH IN THE AREA THAT THEY DO THE PILOT LOCATION. AT THE TIME THE DRONE WILL GO OUT, CHECK OUT THE SCENE, DECIDE IF, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CLEAR IT OR CODE FOR IT OR DETERMINE IF AN OFFICER WOULD'VE
NEEDED TO BE OUT THERE OR NOT. AND THENEDA REMARKS TO THE CALL. THE CALL WILL STILL GO OUT TO PUT THE POLICE OFFICER OUT TO THE LOCATION. THEY MAY BE GOING OUT THERE SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE GOAL IN THAT IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS THE RESPONSE OUT TO THE
LOCATION FASTER WITH THE DRONE AND ABLE TO BE CLEARED THAN IT WOULD BE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL OFFICER GO OUT. IT ALSO IS GOING TO ASSIST US WITH NOT UTILIZING AN OFFICER WHEN THEY'RE NOT NEEDED OUT ON A SCENE FOR A 911 CALL. SO THE
PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE TWO PERSONNEL FROM MPD ROTATED OUT WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. THEY WON'T HAVE ANY WEEKENDS OR HOLIDAYS UNLESS IT'S DEEMED NECESSARY BY MPD LEADERSHIP.
THE REASONING FOR THAT IS IT GIVES MORE COMMUNICATION AND ABLE TO WORK WITH SKYDIO WHO IS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PILOT TO SEE WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE OF IT. IT'S ALSO GOING TO ALLOW FOR
COMMAND STAFF FOR OURSELVES OUTSIDE OF ME CC TO BE ON SITE DURING THE TIMES THESE CALLS ARE OCCURRING TO ENSURE IT REMAINS FUNCTIONING AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO ARE ENSURING THAT
THERE'S NOT AS MUCH OVERTIME OR ADDITIONAL STAFFING NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PILOT PROJECT. THAT WAY IT'S COVERED BY JUST THE BASIC 9:00 OR 5:00 OR 8:00 TO 4:00 PERSONNEL FOR THE TIME BEING. I'M GOING TO KICK IT
BACK OVER TO COMMANDER DEPUTY CHIEF. >> THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. OUR DATA COLLECTION. VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS ACTUALLY. IT'S THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS. WE WANT TO LOOK AT DISPATCH TIMES, THE TIMES IT TAKES FROM THE 911 CALL COMING IN AND HOW QUICKLY WE CAN LAUNCH A DRONE TO A SCENE. HOW LONG IT TAKES FROM THAT DISPATCH
TIME TO THE ARRIVAL TIME ON SCENE AS WELL. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE TRACK ALL OF THAT, AND CODE 4 TIME. COULD WE HAVE CODE 4ED A SCENE WITH THE DRONE PRIOR TO A SQUAD ARRIVING? SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF THE ABILITY TO SAY YEAH, WE CAN CODE
4 THESE SCENES. THE CLEAR TIME, THE TOTAL TIME FROM DISPATCH TO THE INCIDENT CLOSURE, SO PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE DRONE RESPONSE TIMES AND TRADITIONAL OFFICER RESPONSE TIME. REGARDLESS OF THE PRIORITY CALLS, 0 OR 1, WE ARE GOING TO
SEND A DRONE AND WE WILL BE SENDING A PHYSICAL OFFICER TO THE SCENE. THE DRONE MAY HAVE TO LEAVE AFTER ENTERING IN SOME REMARKS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE THE SQUAD CAR FROM GOING TO THAT SCENE DURING THIS TRIAL PERIOD. AFTER EVERY, AFTER EVERY FLIGHT,
WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING AN MPD REPORTING. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PUTTING ALL THIS INTO OUR, INTO OUR SYSTEM, OUR TRACKING SYSTEM, AND TO SEE HOW THE PERFORMANCE IS ON EACH DEPLOYMENT. PRIVACY, DATA, AND
COMPLIANCE SAFEGUARDS. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A HUGE THING, RIGHT? PRIVACY, I GET IT, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ONLY AS AUTHORIZED BY STATE LAW. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE FLYING THESE THINGS. THE CAMERA WHEN A DRONE IS LAUNCHED THE CAMERA REMAINS
POINTED AT THE HORIZON. THE ENTIRE TIME UNTIL ARRIVAL AT THE 911 CALL SCENE. THE CAMERA THEN WILL BE ACTIVELY CONTROLLED BY THE REMOTE PILOT ONCE THEY'RE ON SCENE AT THE INCIDENT. ALL FLIGHTS ARE RECORDED AND
UPLOADED TO EVIDENCE.COM AS SOON AS THAT DRONE LANDS ON ITS DOCK, IT STARTS IMMEDIATELY DOWNLOADING THAT EVIDENCE.COM. IT'S MUCH LIKE OUR BODY CAMS WHEN WE GET TO A WI-FI SIGNAL, OUR BODY CAMS DO THE SAME THING, SO THE DRONES WILL BE MIRRORING
THAT. NONEVIDENTIARY FLIGHTS ARE AUTOMATICALLY DELETED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHRINK THAT TIME PERIOD. MINNETONKA DOES THREE DAYS SO THAT'S UP FOR CONVERSATION. WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO. WE CAN SHRINK THAT BUT THE SEVEN DAYS IS MANDATED BY
STATE LAW THAT YOU HAVE TO DELETE. FLIGHTS WITH EVIDENTIARY VALUE ARE RETAINED, RECORDED IN MINNESOTA EVIDENCE RETENTION REQUIREMENTS. HOWEVER, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ALETHIA WHICH IS THE INDEPENDENT MONITORING TEAM, WITH THE MDHR
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WE WILL BE KEEPING ALL EVIDENTIARY VIDEO INDEFINITELY. REGULATORY OVERSIGHT. LOTS OF OVERSIGHT, A LOT OF GOVERNANCE ON THIS, WHICH IS SUPER IMPORTANT. THE FAA WE ARE BOUND BY THE FAA ON HOW HIGH
WE CAN FLY, WHERE WE CAN FLY, OUR STATE STATUTE IS ANOTHER THING THAT OBVIOUSLY CONTROLS WHEN WE CAN FLY AND THEN OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY SO THREE LEVELS OF GOVERNANCE HERE AND
OVERSIGHT. STATE STATUTE, 62619 REGULATES WHEN WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO USE THE DRONES. IT MANDATES YEARLY REPORTING TO THE BCA FOR EVERY FLIGHT. IT HAS TO BE RECRECRECORDED AND
SENT TO THE BCA EVERY YEAR. IT MAIN TABES RETENTION LAWS AS I STATED BEFORE, HOW LONG WE HAVE TO RETAIN. PROHIBITS DRONES FROM HAVING FACIAL RECOGNITION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE X10 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY OR EVEN THE ABILITY
TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF THAT SOFTWARE OR EQUIPMENT PUT ON IT. AND IT ALSO STATE STATUTES PROHIBITS DRONES FROM BEING EQUIPPED WITH ANY KIND OF WEAPON SYSTEM. OUR MPD POLICY MIRRORS STATE LAW. AWMTION. ALSO WE'VE
INCLUDED IN THE POLICY THAT QUARTERLY REPORTS NOT JUST A YEAR LIKE THE BCA BUT THE CHIEF OF POLICE WILL BE GETTING A QUARTERLY REPORT ON ANY AND ALL UAV USAGE IN THE MPD. UNDER SUBDIVISION 1, 7, AND 8, IF A DRONE PILOT WANTS TO FLY OUTSIDE
OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS, THEY HAVE TO CALL THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISION COMMANDER AND SEEK APPROVAL AND EXPLAIN WHY THEY WANT TO FLY A DRONE OUTSIDE OF THE THREE SUBDIVISIONS HERE. ANIF, IF THAT, IF THE COMMANDER IS NOT AVAILABLE, THEN A DEPUTY CHIEF OR HIGHER HAS TO
APPROVE THOSE FLIGHTS. A REAL COOL THING THAT I LIKE TO LOOK AT ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE A PUBLIC FACING TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD WHICH WE WILL HAVE HERE. IT'LL BE ACTIVE IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE PILOT PROJECT. THIS TRACKS ALL
FLIGHT DATA AND THE REASONS FOR THE FLIGHT AND THE COMMUNITY CAN GO ONTO CITYTALK WEB SITE WHERE IT WILL BE LIVE AND IF THEY ARE OUT ONE NIGHT AND SEE A DRONE FLY OVER THE TOP AND IT HAS RED AND BLUE LIGHTS ON IT AND THEY SAY HEY I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE DRONE IS HEADED, WHAT'S GOING ON
WITHIN 24 HOURS THEY CAN GO INTO THE PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD AND LOOK UP THAT INFORMATION. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. BIG PIECE FOR OUR DRONE UNIT. THEY'RE ALWAYS FULFILLING REQUESTS TO GO OUT AND SHOW SCHOOLS OR YOU NAME IT, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT
TO COME OUT AND HAVE THESE DEMOS DONE SO WE DO THE PRECINCT OPEN HOUSES AS WELL. COMMUNITY M STAT. THEY GO FOR DEMOS ON THAT. THE PEACE INTERNSHIP ACADEMY GOT A PRETTY COOL DEMO. SKYDIO THEMSELVES HAS A PROGRAM
CALLED SKYDIO FREE FOR ALL PROVIDED TO BY THE COMPANY. THEY WILL COME OUT AND INFORM AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HOW TO FLY, YOU KNOW, HOW THE DRONES WORK, HOW THEY FLY AND ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO FLY THEM AS WELL.
LASTLY, MY HOPE IS IF WE DO GET A DFR PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING THAT WE GET A DEDICATED DRONE WEB PAGE ON THE CITY WEB SITE THAT HAS FULL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMM COMMUNITY: OUTSIDE AGENCY DFR SUCCESSES. I THINK THIS SAIS A REALLY IMPORTANT
PIECE. ST. PAUL PD HAS BEEN FLYING DRONES SINCE 2023. THEY JUST STARTED THEIR OWN DFR PROGRAM IN MAY, MAY 30th. THEY HAVE THREE DOTS, ONE IN EACH ONE OF THEIR DISTRICTS. THEY'VE FL -- FLOWN OVER 185
MISSIONS TO DATE. THEY'VE ARRIVED ON SCENE ON 585 OF THOSE MISSIONS IN UNDER 90 SECONDS. THEY'VE HELPED LOCATE 45 PEOPLE, CONTRIBUTE TO 46 ARRESTS, AND THE COMMANDER OVER THERE YESTERDAY I SPOKE TO HIM HE SAID THEY HAVE ZERO COMPLAINTS SINCE THEIR PROGRAM BEGAN IN 2023 OF
THEIR DRONE USAGE. MINNETONKA, THIS WAS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THEIR PROGRAM, OVER 400 FLIGHTS, 65% OF THEIR DRONE WAS THE FIRST ON SCENE ON 911 CALLS. THEY SHOWED THAT 20% OF THEIR CALLS WERE ABLE TO BE CANCELED, A
PATROL RESPONSE COULD BE CANCELED, AND THEY SURVEYED THEIR OFFICERS AND THEY SAID THAT 90% OF THE TIME THEY BELIEVE THAT THE DRONE GAVE THEM GOOD INFORMATION PRIOR TO THEM ARRIVING ON SCENE. SAN FRANCISCO A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH
AUTO THEFT, SOME OF THE CRIME PATTERNS, BUT BUT SAN FRANCISCO SHOWED IN 2024 WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR DRONE PROGRAM, IT HAD A DROP OF THEIR CRIME OVERALL CRIME BY 30%. THE REDUCTION IN AUTO THEFT IN 2026 WENT DOWN
44%. THEY HAD MORE THAN 500 ARRESTS RELATED TO THEIR DRONE PROGRAM, AND THEY RECOVERED OR I'M SORRY THEY HAD 1 160 -- 166 STOLEN VEHICLE REQUESTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. REDMAN, OREGON, INCREDIBLE NUMBERS HERE BUT IN 2025, THEY HAD 1:33
AVERAGE RESPONSE TIMES WITH DRONES TO 911 CALLS AND 80% OF THE CALLS, THE DRONE WAS THE FIRST ON SCE. THEY NOTED OVER TIME HOURS SAVED, 113OURS OF OVERTIME SAVED IN 2025, AND THEN $60,000 COST SABINGS FM CLEARING CALLS WITH THE DRONE
AND NOT SENDING A POLICE IN A SQUAD CAR. JUST A QUICK COST ANALYSIS. WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT PILOT PROJECT IF, IF WE WERE TO PAY SKYDIO FOR THIS FOR A FULL YEAR, FOR THE TWO DRONE DOCKS IS APPROXIMATELY
$150,000 PER YEAR. JUST I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE WONDERING ABOUT THAT ON THE LAST LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. WE MENTIONED THIS BUT NOT ONLY -- NOT ONLY POLICE BUT FIRE HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY SEE HUGE BENEFIT IN THE INCIDENTS THAT FIRE COULD RESPOND TO THESE, THE DRONES
COULD RESPOND AND A GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE CENTRAL AND LOWRY AVENUE HAD A BUILDING FIRE. THEY WERE ABLE TO USE ONE OF THE DRONES TO GO UP AND SEE WHERE THE WATER WAS SHOOTING OUT OF THE, I DON'T KNOW, THE LADDER FIRE HOSE BACK OF A BETTER TERM, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO REDIRECT WHERE THE FIRE WAS WHERE THEY COULDN'T SEE FROM THE GROUND.
BUT THEY SAID THAT HAZMAT RECONS WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE INTO HAZMAT AREAS. YOU COULD SEND A DRONE IN TO GET A LOOK. WATER RESCUES, MINNEHAHA FALLS, SOMETIMES THERE ARE THINGS DOWN TO WHERE WE COULD SEND A DRONE TO GET A BIRD'S EYE VIEW ON
THINGS. THE NEXT STEPS, IF APPROVED I HAVE -- IF APPROVED TODAY BUT WE KNOW THIS GOES TO FULL COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, JULY 16th, IF IT'S, IF IT'S APPROVED WE COULD BE FLYING BY JULY 20th. THAT'S THE EARLIEST WE COULD DO IT. AND OBSZLY WE WANT TO --
OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO SET AFTER THE 75-DAY TRIAL PERIOD, WE WANT TO PRESENT AGAIN TO, TO THIS COMMITTEE HERE ON THE RESULTS FROM THE 75-DAY TRIAL. AS I STATED BEFORE TOO, I KNOW IT'S EASY TO HAVE OPINIONS ON THINGS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO INVITE
EVERYBODY HERE TO COME DOWN TO MECC AND SEE HOW EVERYTHING WORKS. HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS, TALK TO THE PILOTS, TALK TO DISPATCH, AND SEE HOW EFFICIENT THIS CAN REALLY BE. ASK QUESTIONS AND BE ENGAGED. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPEN FOR A FEW QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
ANY. >> I THINK WE'LL DO OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN AFTER THAT WE CAN OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. >> GOT IT. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WELL THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> THA YOU. >> AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE ARE AT LEAST 39 PEOPLE HERE TO TESTIFY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO
ASK THE PUBLIC TO PLEASE KEEP IT TO TWO MINUTES AND DON'T GO OVER. OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FINISH THE REST OF THE AGENDA, WHICH WE STILL HAVE A FEW OTHER ITEMS LEFT. I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE KEEP IT RESPECTFUL. I WILL NOW OPEN THIS PUBLIC
HEARING. THE FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND I'M GOING IT NAME YOUR NUMBER IF I DON'T SAY YOUR NAME CORRECTLY AND ALSO JUST A LOT OF CURSIVE WRITING HERE SO NUMBER 1, DESHAWN McDONALD. OKAY. THANK YOU.
NUMBER 2. DAN IS IT ALMANS? NUMB 2. OKAY, SOMEONE IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM SO I'M GOING TO SAY THE NAMES OUT LO -- LOU AND NUMBERS SO IF YOU'RE IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM YOU CAN START WALKING OVER HERE. NUMBER 2
WILL BE DAN. NUMBER 3 WIL BE S. HELLER. NUMBER 4 WILL BE ELIZABETH OPEN HEIMER. NUMBER 5 WILL BE GABE. OKAY, NUMBER 3. >> THE PERSON WHO HAD SPOT NUMBER 1 LEFT SO HE GAVE ME HIS
SPOT. I WAS ORIGINALLY PERSON 21. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> HELLINGO MY NAME IS MEREDITH ABBY AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF WOMEN AGAINST MILITARY MADNESS AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS FOR 30 YEARS. WAM HAS BEEN ORGANIZING AGAINST DRONES BOTH DOMESTDLY AND INTERNATIONALLY SINCE 2012. WE
SEE THEM AS WEAPONS OF WAR AND MASS SURVEILLANCE AND DO NOT WANT THEM TO BE USED TO CONTROL OR KILL PEOPLE EITHER AT HOM OR ABROAD. DRONE ATTACKS CAUSE THOUSANDS OF FATALITIES ACROSS THE GLOBE, AND ARE A LEADING CAUS OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES IN WAR, FORXAMPLE, IN SUDAN OR
80% OF CIVILIAN DTHS ARE CAUSED BY DRONES. WAM ACTIVISTS HAVE PROTESTED HERE IN THE TN CITIES, HAVE TRAVELED TO CAMP -- TRAVELED TO RIPLEY IN CHICAGO, ALL TO PROTEST AGAIN DRONES. WE DO NOT SUPPORT A CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO BECAUSE THEY PROFIT FROM
THE USE OF DRONES AS WEAPONS OF WAR IN PALESTINE. IN FACT THE ONLY REASON WHY SKYDIO IS A LARGE COMPANY AND CAN AFFORD TO ENTICE MINNEAPOLIS WITH A 75-DAY FREE TRIAL IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE BANK FROM KILLING
PALESTINIANS. ANY CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO WOULD BE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SUPPORT A COUNTRY THAT SELLS DRONES TO APARTHEID ISRAEL BUT WOULD BE FDING R&D TO MAKE MORE DRONES. THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS DO NOT WANT
SKYDIO'S BLOODORY THEIR HANDS AND PASSAGE OF THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE IN CONTRADICTION TO THE CEASE-FIRE TO GAZA AND ENDING SUPPORTS OF TAX DOLLA. WE ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF SKYDIO FOR DRONESS FIRST RESPONDERS PROGRAM, SUPPORTING
NOTE. OUR CITY IS KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE WORLD FOR THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. SINCE HIS MURDER IN 2020 THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS DONE VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO REIN IN KILLER COPS. WE CANNOT GIVE THIS POLICE DEPARTMENTCCESS TO DRONES. WITHOUT COMMUNITY CONTROL OF THE POLICE, WE HAVE
NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULDN'T USE THEM TO POLICE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD BE USED TO SURVEILL MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE
NUMBER 2, DAN -- NUMBER 3S. HELLER, NUMBER 4, ELIZABE, NUMBER 5, GABE. >> HELLO. I'M DAN EDMONDS A MEMBER OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IN WARD 4MENT I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE TRIAL OF THE
SKYDIO DRONES. IT IS WITH GREAT FRUSTRATION AND DISAPPOINTED THAT I AM REQUIRED TO BE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS. I WOULD ASSUME THAT GIVEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF DURING OUR OCCUPATION, WHEN WE WERE TERRORIZED, KID NAPPED AND GUNNED DOWN IN THE STREETS BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT THE
USE OF DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS WOULD NOT BE THE BEST PATH FORWARD. IT IS NOTS LOST ON ME THAT MANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE WERE ALSO THOSE WHO WERE WHOLLY ABSENT DURING THE OCCUPATION AND SUBSEQUENT RESISTANCE TO I.C.E. AND THAT MANY OF THE MEMBERS WHO STOOD
SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS DURING THAT HARROWING TIME DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PARTNERSHIP. IT IS ALSO NOT LOST ON ME THAT MANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED THE SO-CALLED COP CITY INITIATIVE, ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF USING A.I. DRONES TO PROVIDE SOMEHOW ADEQUATE CARE TOHEIR
NEIGHBORS. THE SAME DRONES MIND YOU THAT THE US REALLY DEFENSE FORCES USE TO LOCATE, TART AND KILL INNOCENT PALESTINIANS. THEF GENOCIDE AND MINNEAPOLIS MUST REJECT TOOLS USED TO REPRESS AND MURDER PEOPLE AND INSTEAD STAND
IN SOLIDARITY WITH PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE SHARE A SIMILAR STRUGGLE. WE CANNOT SUPPORT A COMPANY COMPLICIT INENOCIDE. ADDITIONALLY WHY ARE THE TAXPAYING CITIZENS OF THIS CITY MEANT TO FOOT THE BILL OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT YET AGAIN? A POLICE DEPARTMENT
THAT WHILE THE CITY WAS OCCUPIED SAT ON ITS HANDS WHILE RACKING UP THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN OVERTIME THAT CANNOT BE ACCOUNTED FOR. A POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO STILL HAS NOT PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED OR TAKEN ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE MURDER OS ABANDONMENT OF THE COMMUNITY IN
THE MONTHS AFTER. A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT CANNOT EXPLAIN WHY IT HAS GONE $20 MILLION OVER BUDGET AND THEN CONSTANTLY ASKS FOR MOR NO MORE MONEY TO THE POLICE, NO DRONES, WE ARE ALL PALESTINE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> NEXT. IF I C ASK FOLKS, IT'S GOINGO BE HARD TO HEAR PEOPLE'S NAMES IF WE KEEPP CLAING. NUMBER 3, S. HELLER, NUMBER 4, ELIZABETH O., NUMBER 5 GABE H., NUMBER 6, WILL. NUMBER
7, EVERETT? I'M JUST NAMING IT OUT LOUD BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM THAT NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR US. WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS SARAH HELLER. I HAVE BEEN A PROUD RESIDENT OF CAMDEN IN WARD 4 FOR 16 YEARS. I HAVE ALSO
BEEN TOLD THAT THE REASON THAT I SHOULD SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM BY MY COUNCILPERSON IS THAT IT WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL DUMPING AND CHOP SHOPS IN NORTH. WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING AND CHOP SHOPS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, LET ME TELL YOU. I HAVE BEEN
PERSONALLY FINED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR MOSTLY HOUSE FLIPPERS AND THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS WHO DUMP THEIR CONSTRUCTION WASTE IN MY YARD. A DRONE WILL DO NOTHING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. NOTHING AT ALL.
THAT'S A 311 CALL. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS A LOT OF TIMES. THAT'S A 311 CALL, NOT A 911 CALL. SO WHEN I READ THAT THEY WANT TO USE THIS FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND THEN I AM TOLD THAT I SHOULD TURN OUT TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE OF REGULATORY
ISSUES, WHAT I TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THIS IS REALLY FOR. RIGHT? THEY WANT DRONES FIRST. AND THEY'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THEM LATER. AND THAT CONCERNS ME DEEPLY AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN A PART
OF TOWN THAT HAS SUFFERED A LOT OF POLICE ABUSE. EVERY INTERACTION I HAVE EVER HAD WITH A MEMBER OF THE MPD IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IS ONE IN WHICH THEY DEGRADE ME AS A PERSON. THE RELAONSHIP BETWEEN THE POLICE
IN MINNETONKA OR ROCHESTER OR DULUTH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE IN NORTH WITH THE POLICE. YEAH, THERE'S NO EXCUSE. I HAVE MORE NOTES T I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOE COMING SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. PLEASE OPPOSE THIS.
[APPLAUSE] >>> THERE IS -- I'VE READ THE NAMES AGAIN, SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR ME, LET ME KNOW, BUT NUMBER 4, ELIZABETH, NUMBER 5, GABE, NUMBER 6, WILL, NUMBER 7, I THINK EMMITT OR EVERETT,
WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH OPPENHEIMER. I LIVE IN WARD 4. EVERYONE WITHHOM I'VE COMMUNICATED DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL HAVE REPORTED THAT NO ONE HAS ASKED IF WE WANTED A DRONES PROGRAM FOR FIRST RESPONDERS NO ONE I'VE
INTERACTED WITH EVEN HEARD THAT THIS WAS BEING PROPOSED UIL TWO WEEKS AGO. I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THE CONCEPT OF USING DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS, ESPECIALLY DRONES FROM A COMPANY THAT CURRENTLY USES THEM FOR MILITARY OPERATIONS. WHEN WILL
THE MILLERATIZATION OF THE CITIY'S POLICE DRAW DOWN FOR GOOD? I BECAME INTERESTED IN THE RIGHT OF USE TECHNOG BY THE MPD WHEN THERE WAS GROWING INTEREST OF USE OF BODY CAMS SO I WENT TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MY FIRST TIME AROUND 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO OF THIS VERY SAME COMMITTEE. AS THAT HEARING GOT
UNDERWAY, I HEARD ONE OFFICER SAY TO ANOTHER, THEY'RE GOING TO VE US BODYAMERAS AND WE WILL JUST BREAK THEM. I HAVE SINCE READ THAT MPD OFFICERS OFTEN SOUGHT WAYS TO UNDERMINE TECHNOLOGY OR RESIST ITS IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL THEY
LEARNED HOW THEY COULD EXPAND ITS USE AND GET AWAY WITH IT. POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR SUPERVISORS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY OR HAVE MADE THEIR PROCESS OF INVTIGATING THEMSELVES COMPLETELY OPAQUE TO THE PUIC. ALSO THE POLICE THEMSELVES REPORTED UNEASE IN
MPD'S OWN TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS PER A SUMMARY OF THE INFORMATION COLLECTED FROM FOCUS GROUPS AHEAD OF IMPLEMENTING THE DISSENT DECREE AND YOU SHOULD HAVE PACKETS WITH SOME OF THIS INFORMATION. SHOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU. SO WHY ARE WE GIVING EVEN MORE TECHNOLOGY TO
POLICE BE A GOOD IDEA? THE WORK TO IMPLEMENT THE CONSENT DECREE FULLY SHOULD BE NOT LEAPED FROGGED OVER, JUST BECAUSE OTHER CITIES ARE USING DRONES. OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THE HARMFUL HISTORY OF POLICE KILLINGS OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT MINNEAPIS HAS, SAY THEIR NAMES, TERENCE,
FRANKLIN, JAMAR, CLARK, GEORGE FLOYD, WE NEED RESPECT FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL AND SHARED HUME APTYE GROUND, NOT REMOTE DRONES IN THE AIR: .. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT, GABE. NUMBER 5, 6,
WILL, 7, EMMITT OR EVERETT. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS GABE HELLER, I LIVE IN WEBER CAMDEN IN WARD 4. SO I HAVE LIVED IPNORTH FOR- IN NORTH FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE DUMP THINGS ON MY PROPERTY, EVEN CARS, BUT THE SOLUTION IS NOT DRONES. IT'S FOR THE POLICE TO GET OFF THEIR
DUFFS AND DO THEIR JOBS. LAST TIME SOMEONE DUMPED A CAR IN MY YARD, I CALLED THE POLICE. HEY SHONE A SPOTLIGHT IN MY EYES AND YELLED THIS BETTER BE STOLEN OR ELSE IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. THOSE ARE NOT THE WORDS OF A POLICE -- WITH THE PATIENCE TO STAKE OUT AN ILLEGAL CHOP SHOP
OR SERIAL DUMPER TO CATCH THEM IN THE ACT. THAT MAN WOULD NOT USE A DRONE TO CATCH PEOPLE ILLEGALLY DUMPING STUFF IN MY YARD. THAT MAN WOULD USE A DRONE TO CATCH ME NOT MOWING MY LAWN DURING NO MOW MAY AND GET ME CITED FOR IT. THAT IS A MAN WHO SOLVES PROBLEMS BY KILLING
THEESSENGER. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE POLICE DON'T HAVE DRONES. THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T TRUST MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. THEY DON'T TRUST ME, SO I DON'T TRUST THEM, AND SURE, THE CONSENT DECREE IS SUPPOSED TO SOLVE THAT, BUT IT HASN'T YET. AND UNTIL IT HAS, I DON'T WANT THE POLICE TO HAVE ACCESS
TO DRONES. AND IF BOOTS ON THE GROUND IS JUST IMPRACTICAL, AND SURVEILLANCE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, I WANT THAT SURVEILLANCE PLACED IN THE HANDS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE CAN DECIDE WHAT PROBLEMS ARE SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE POLICE IS WARRANTED. [APPLAUSE]
>> NUMBER 6, WILL. 7, NOT SURE, NUMBER 8, HEATHER, NUMBER 9, CAITLIN, NUMBER 10, BOB. >> HELLO, MY MAIM IS -- NAME IS WILL REALLY I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WEBER CAMDEN NEIGHBORHOOD FOT
FEW WEEKS I'VE HELPED MY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS ORGANIZE GRASSROOTS PETITIONS AGAINST THIS PROPOSED DAFR PROGRAM, THOSE IN OVER 500 SIGNATURES WERE EMAILED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THIS MORNING. MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HAVING RESOURCES PULLED OUT FROM UNDER IT AS LONG AS I'VE
LIVED THERE. WE HAVE LOST GROCERY STORES, BIOMETRICS WE'RE AN URBAN FOOD DESERT WE'RE RAPIDLY USING FUNDI FOR OUR SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES, CLASSES ARE BEING AXED, MY NEIGHBORS, I HAVE NEIGHBORS STRUGGLING TO AFFORD FOOD AND RENT, AND THEIR KIDS ARE STRUGGLING IN
UNDER-RESOURCED SCHOOLS. SO WHEN I HEAR THAT THE CITY IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE SPENDING BIG MONEY ON MILITARY GRADE DRONE TECHNOLOGY TO THE POLICE AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'LL HOPEFULLY UNDERSTAND THAT MY FIRS THOUGHT IS YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS. WE JUST SPENT MONTHS
ENDURING A BRUTAL WINTER OF MILITARY EQUIPPED FEDERAL OCCUPATION AND TEARSIZATION AND ON THE HEELS OF THAT YOU WISH TO PROVIDE MILITARY GRADE DRONE TECH TO THE COPS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? IN OUR ALREADY OVERSURVEILLED NEIGHBORHOODS? PURCHASED FROM A COMPANY THAT DIRECTLY PROFITS FROM WARFARE
AND IMPERIALISM? YOU CAN'T BESE WRONG, IT WOULDN'T BEKAY EVEN IF THESE DRONES WERE BROUGHT FROM TEMU RB IT'S JUST QUITE A RED FLAG. WE NEED MONEY FOR SCHOOLS, FOR HOUSING, FOR GROWSY
STORES. NOT FOR POLICE. DO NOT GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT OKAY WITH ANY VERSION OF BIG BROTHER. THANK U FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> NUMBER 7, EVERETT, NUMBER 8, HEATHER, NUMBER 9, CAITLIN, NUMBER 10, BOB. >> NUMBER 8.
>> NUMBER 7'S EVERETT. THAT'S XT. NUMBER 7. WE CAN MOVE ON IF EVERETT COMES BACK, LET US KNOW. NUMBER 8, HEATHER. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HEATHER MICHAELSON, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 5. THESE
DRONES ARE NOT SAFE. TWO WEEKS AGO IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK, A SKYDIO DRONE CRASHED OUT OF THE SKY, THERE'S NO EXPLANATION FROM THE CITY OR THE COMPANY OF WHY THATAPPENED OR HOW, THAT'S THE SECOND ONE IN A YEAR IN NEW YORK
CITY IN BROOKLYN CITY, SORRY, THAT CRASHED FOR APPARENTLY NO REASON. AND THESE DRONES ARE AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED USED BY THE IDF IN THE -- SORRY IN THEIR GENOCIDE ON PALESTINE. AND NOT
ONLY THAT, BUT IN OCTOBER 2025, THE WASHINGTON POST DID A STORY THAT SKYDIO PROVIDES INFORMATION TO I.C.E., AND MINNESOTA STATE LAW ALSO PERMITS DRONE FOOTAGE TO BE USED BY ANY GOVERNMENT
ENTITY PROVIDED THAT THEY MAKE A REQUEST IN WRITING. THAT MEANS ANYTIME THERE IS A PROTEST THAT DRONE, THAT DRONES FLY OVER, ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY LIKE DHS, I.C.E., CAN ASK FOR THAT FOOTAGE AND THAT MEANS ANY OF US THAT
ATTEND WILL BE PUT UNDER A MICROSCOPE BY PEOPLE LIKE STEVEN MILLER WHO WANTS TO CLASSIFY ANYONE WHO ATTENDS THOSE PROTESTS AS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND PUT US IN JAIL FOR EXERCISING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, AND MOST OF US IN THIS
ROOM I THINK WOULD AGREE THAT WHAT I.C.E. DID AND WHAT THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO IS WRONG. AND NOBODY WANTS TO BE -- SORRY. AND WE DON'T WANT TO FUND THIS PROGRAM OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM
THAT GIVES MONEY TO A COMPANYWIP FUND THEIR GENOCIDE. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 10. CAITLIN, 10, BOB, NUMBER 11 -- MADDIE, NUMBER 12,
YON. >> HI, MY NAME IS CAITLIN METSAL AND I'M A RESIDENT AND A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE VICTORY NEIGHBORHOOD OF WARD 4. FRANKLY I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO LEARN THAT MY COUNCILMEMBER IS THE ONE AT THE HELM OF THIS PROPOSAL. THIS COMES FROM THE SAME COUNCILMEMBER WHO IS VIRTUALLY
SILENT AS OUR NEIGHBORS WERE BEING TARGETED, HARASSED, AND SNATCHED BY I.C.E. EARLIER THIS YEAR AT THE PEAK OF OPERATION METRO SURGE. MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE PILOT. WHAT WILL THE TRUE COST BE TO OUR
COMMUNITY AND OUR RIGHTS. HOW AND WHERE WILL ANY DATA COLLECTED ABOUT OUR CITY AND ITS RESIDENTSE STORED AND FOR HOW LONG? WILL IT B ENCRYPTED AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WHO WILL IT BE SHARED WITH AND HOW CAN WE GUARANTEE IT WON'T QUICKLY BE HANDED OVER TO INVADING PARTI?
HOW CAN WE GUARANTEE IT WILL NOT BE USED TO OBSERVE, SURVEILL, AND TARGET OPPRESSED COMMUNITIES AND CONSTITUTIONAL OBSERVERS WITHIN OUR CITY. SURE THIS PRESENTATION PROVIDED A HAZY OUTLINE OF USAGE POLICIES,
BUT HISTORICALLY THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE NOT HAD A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF FOLLOWING THEIR OWN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. FURTHERMORE, WE SHOULD NOT BE SENDING O TAX DOLLARS TO THE SILICON VALLEY BASED ENTITY WHO ARE AIDING THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES IN THEIR
GENOCIDE OF GAZA. OVER 21,000 PALESTINIAN CHILDREN HAVE BEEN MURDERED SO FAR AT THE HANDS OF THE IDF AND SOME O THAT BLOOD IS ON SKYDIO'S HANDS. THE MPD ALREADY HAS SOME DRONES IT CAN
USE IN THE MOST EMERGENT SITUATIONS. WE SHOULD NOT BE REWARDING THEM WITH SHINY NEW TOYS AFTER THEY CONTINUE TO RACK UP NEBULOUS OVERTIME YET STILL FAIL TO SHOW UP WHEN CALLED AND WHO CANNOT EFFECTIVELY ANSWER WHY THEY SO EGREGIOUSLYXCEED THEIR BUDGET YEAR AFTER YEAR,
SAY NO TO SKYDIO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.[APPLAUSE] >>> NUMBER 10, BOB. NUMBER 11, MADIE, 12, YON, 13 BRANDY, 14S.
MARTIN. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS BOB GOONEN, I'M A RESIDENT OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IN WARD 4 I'M DEEPLY DISTURBED THAT JUST MONTHS REMOVED FROM METRO SURGE, WHEN DRONE TECHNOLOGY WAS USED TO SURVEILL OUR IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY, AND THE PROTEST THAT FOLLOWED, THAT ANYONE WOULD PROPOSE PUTTING MORE DRONES I THE SKY OR MINNEAPOLIS. I OPPOSE CONTRACTING WITH SKYDIO THE SAME COMPANY THAT SELLS DRONES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY AND I.C.E. I AM JEWISH. I OPPOSE CONTRACTING WITH SKYDIO, THE SAME COMPANY THAT SELLS DRONES TO THE ISRAELI MILITARY FOR USE IN ITS GENOCIDE IN GAZA. MINNEAPOLIS SHOULD NOT BE DOING BUSINESS WITH A COMPANY
THAT PROFITEERS FROM GENOCIDE. I OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL TO PUT SURVEILLANCE DRONE TECHNOLOGY IN THE HANDS OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE GARMENT. THE SAME -- DEPARTMENT. THE SAME POLICE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOUND HAD ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BLACK AND NATE AMERICAN
RESIDENTS AND IN UNCONSTITUTIONAL SURVEILLANCE PRACTICES THAT INFRINGED UPON FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOMS. THE SAME POLICE THAT USE DRONES TO SURVEILL THE RACIAL JUSTICE PROTESTS FOLLOWING THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. WHEN I DOOR
KNOCKED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A PETITION OPPOSING THE SKYDIO PROPOSAL, SEVERAL PEOPLEPON HEARING THAT -- SEVERAL PEOPLE UPON HEARING THAT IT WOULD MEAN DRONES IN THE SKIES ABOVE THEM ASKED WHERE DO I SIGN. ONE
COUPLE EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION, BUT DECLINED TO SIGN BECAUSE OF FEAR OF HOW THE DATA MIGHT BE USED. DRONES WILL ONLY WORSEN THE FEAR OF SURVEILLANCE THAT MANY NOW SHARE. THE SOUNDS OF METRO SURGE STILL ECHO FORTHS
VOTE, BEAR IN MIND THAT WHEN YOUR CONSTITUENTS FIND OUT THAT YOU VOTED FOR DRONES HOVERING OVER THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU MAY BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT VOTE IN THE NEXT ELECTION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> NEXT UP, 11, MADDY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBERS, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS MADDY AND I LIVE IN WARD 7. I OPPOSE THE CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO AND A DRONE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM FOR
MPD. WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL, CITY DEPARTMEN WERE QUICK TO TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS, RESCUE, FIRE, EMERGENCIES, AND OTHER LOGISTICAL THINGS, RIGHT? WE NEED TO BE HONEST THAT THESE ARE STILL SURVEILLANCE TOOLS, AND THERE ARE HUGE RISKS TO RESIDENT PRIVACY AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE 11 REASONS UNDER
STATE STATUTE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD USE DRONES WITHOUT A WARRANT, I SEE LOT OF RISKS AS WELL. TO COLLECT LAW ENFORCEMENT MAY U A UAV TO COLLECT INFO FROM A PUBLIC AREA IF THERE IS REASONABLE SUSPICION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. OR OVER A PUBLIC EVENT WHERE THERE IS A
HEIGHTENED RISK TO THE SAFETY OF PARTICIPANTS OR BYSTANDERS. THIS COULD 100% BE USED AS A TOOL TO EXPAND STATE SANCTIONED VIOLENCE, SURVEIL PROTESTS AND DISSENT, SURVEILL BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND BRING IN HUGE AMOUNTS OF VISUAL DATA. I WORRY THIS WILL BE THE NEXT
COURSE OF VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS, O AS A CI WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED DON'T DESERVE PRIVACY, DIGNITY, OR ANY SPACE TO EXIST. I WONR HOW THIS COULD AFFT COMMUNITY RAPID RESPONSE SYSTEMS AS WE RELY ON COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO RESPOND TO I.C.E. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOUR
IMMIGRANT CONSTITUENTS STILL LIVING IN FEAR WOULD FEEL SAFER WITH THIS EANDED SURVEILLANCE THROUGH THIS THIRD PAR SPECIFICALLY. AND AS WE MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IT GETS HARDER TO TRUST THAT COUIL CARES ABOUT PRIVACY RIGHTS AND OVERPOLICING OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AND FINALLY THE CONNECTION TO
GENOCIDE AND PALESTINE. THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE U.S. DOES ABROAD COMES HOME OR THE IMPERIAL BOOM RANG, RIGHT? THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN WE CHOOSE TO USE COMPANIES LIKE SKYDIO. WE ARE US USE CHOOSING TO USE THOSE SAME TACTINGESS AND TECHNOGS IN OUR OW NEIGHBORHOODS AND PRETTY
SOON THE TESTING GROUND BECOMES MINNEAPOLIS SO I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PILOT OR A CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUS >> NUMBER 12, JAN, 15, EMILY, 15
SANAA, 17, MARY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS DR. JAN CHEN PROFESSOR OF GERMAN. I FIND IT IRONIC THAT COUNCIL C CELEBRATE CIVIL RIGHTS AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CONSIDER MORE MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS. WHILE OTHER SPEAKERS
TODAY HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED HOW SKYDIO IS BEING ACTIVELY USED TO ABET GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE AND WHILE AS AN ACTIVIST IN MY PRIVATE TIME I RALLY AGAINST SUPPORTING SKYDIO THAT HAS RECENTLY SECURED A HALF MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT WITH I.C.E. I WOULD ALSO EDUCATE COUNCIL ON
THE BROADER PICTURE FROM A CRITICAL SECURITY STUDIES PERSPECTIVE. SECURITY IS AN IMAGINED CONSTRUCT. JEFF HOUSE MANS DESCRIBES SECURITY AS A PRACTICE, NOT A RESPONDING TO ENEMY AND FEAR BUT OF CREATING
THEM. IT ENACTS OUR WORLD AS IT IS A DANGEROUS WORLD, A WORLD SATURATED BY INSECURITIE IT INVESTED FEAR AND ENMITY IN RELATIONS BETWEEN HUMANS AND -- RATHER THAN SIMPLY PROTECTING AND DEFENDING POLITICAL UNITS AND PEEP FROM ENEMIES AND --
PEOPLE FROM ENEMIES AND FEARS. TRANSLATED FOR THE LAYPERSON HERE, THE DEPLOYMENT OF AUTONOMOUS SURVEILLANCE DRONES RESTS ON THE PSUMPTION THAT THE REGULAR PEOE UNTO THEMSELVES ARE ESSENTIAL THREATS. BUTF YOU ACCEPT AND NORMALIZE THAT IDEA, THAT EVERY
SINGLE PERSON COULD BE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT, THEN YOU HAVE ALREADY STRIPPED YOUR OWN RESIDENTS OF ANY INKLING OF HUNITY. THAT'S WHAT TOTALITARIAN SYSTEMS DO AND THAT'S WHAT BEFELL TOO MANY OTHERS IN MINNEAPOLIS THIS IS
THE PARADOX OF SECURITY WITHIN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. YOU CANNOT SIMULTANEOUSLY CLAIM THAT OUR GOVERNMENT, THIS BODY, IS IF THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE -- FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE WHILE ALSO DEEMING THE PEOPLE TO BE EXISTENTIAL THREATS. BUT
AT'S EXACTLY WHAT SECURITIZING DOES, AND THE MORE THIS PRESUMPTION BECOMES NORMALIZED, THE DEAD LEER THIS PRESUMPTION BECOMES. AND THE MORE THIS BECOMES THE NORM, THE MOREE BUILD A SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT RIVALS THE STAWSY, THE SECRET GERMAN -- >> THANK YOU. 13, BRANDY.
[APPLAUSE] 14 -- I'M HAVING A HARD TIME READING BUT I THINK IT STARTS WITH AN S AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMES AFTER THAT AND I THINK THE LAST NAME IS MARTIN. THAT'S 14. BUT FIRST BRANDY, 13. OKAY.
YOU'LL BE NEXT. >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND, PLEASE. I GOT TO PULL MY NOTES UP. >> HI, MY NAME IS BRANDY
BENNETT. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS FOR FIVE YEARS. AND I LIVE IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS AND IN STEVENSON'S DISTRICT. I AM A PRIVACY AND DATA SECURITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS MY PRACTICE AREA. WE ARE GUARANTEED UNDER THE UNITED STATES AND MINNESOTA
CONSTITUTIONS A RIGHT OF PRIVACY FROM THE GOVERNMENT. RIGHT? WE HAVE A FOURTH AMENDMENT, AND WE HAVE SECTION 10 OF THE MINNESOTA CONSTITUTION. THE STATUTE THAT WAS PROPOSED THAT WE OPERATE UNDER HERE WAS PASSED IN 2025. IT IS UNTESTED IN THE MINNESOTA COURTS, AND IT IS UNTESTED IN THE FEDERAL COURTS AS TO WHETHER
THAT STATUTE IS EVEN REMOTELY CONSTITUTIONAL. THE MINNESOTA DATA GOVERNMENT ACT OR DATA PRACTICES ACT, APOLOGIES, IS 30 YEARS OLD. IT HAS BEEN AMENDED MULTIPLE TIMES BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED SUBSTANTIVELY IN THE LAST DECADE EXCEPT WITH REGARD TO SERVICE DATA FOR
MILITARY MEMBERS. YOU HAVE AN OUTDATED GOVERNMENT PRACTICES STATUTE THAT CANNOT REGULATE A TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS EMERGED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. I CAN SPEAK ON THE CIVIL LIBERTIES ISSUES HERE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS. WE ALL LIVED THROUGH THE OCCUPIES -- OCCUPATION. I'M IN
WARD 8, SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS, HALF A MILE FROM WHERE GOOD WAS KILLED. WE WATCHED I.C.E. COME IN HERE WITH DRONES. WE WATCHED I.C.E. COME IN HERE AND VIOLATE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. EVERY TECHNOLOGY GIVEN TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS
BEEN ABUSED. LAST WEEK WE SAW STORIES BREAKING OF FLOCK CAMERAS AND ALPRs IN FLORIDA BEG USED BY OFF-DUTY COPS WHO MET WOMEN ON MOVIE SETS, STALKED THEM THROUGH THE STREETS. THIS WILL BE USED THE SAME WAY. THE PROTOCOLS THAT WERE PUT ON PLACE
ON THAT LOVELY PRESENTATION WE HAD EARLIER ARE NOT SUFFICIENT FROM A PRIVACY PERSPECTIVE. THE GOVERNMENT PRACTICES ACT ALSO REQUIRES THAT WE DO PRIVACY IMPACT ASSESSMENTS FOR GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES. WHERE ARE THOSE? I KNOW AT LEAST ONE REPORTERHO HAS FOIAED THEM WHO
HAS NOT RECEIVED THEM. I WOULD LOVE TO READ THEM. I WILL VOLUNTEER MY TIME FOR THAT. I'LL JUST END WITH -- >> THANK YOU. >> I WAS GOING TO END ON BEN FRANKLIN. >> 14. SARAH MARTIN. I THINK.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SARAH MARTIN, AND I AM A MEMBER, I LIVE IN THE THIRD WARD. AND I CALL ON YOU TO REJECT ANY PARTNERSHIP WITH SKYDIO. IT'S A COMPANY WHH IS MAKING ITS RICHES OFF THE GENOCIDE OF GAZA. LAST WEEK MARKED 1,000 DAYS OF
THE U.S. FUNDED ILL ISRAELI GEN-- ISRAELI GENOCIDE IN GAZA. THE OFFICIAL COUNT OR THE KNOWN NUMBER OF DEAD IS 76,000 PEOPLE, AT LEAST 28,000 OF THEM CHILDREN. BY THAT COUNT, IT MEANS THAT 76 PALESTINIANS
HAVE BEEN MURDERED EVERY DAY. BUT THAT'S NO DOUBT A VAST UNDERCOUNT. REPUTABLE STUDIES HAVE CALCULATED THAT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 300,000 TO 500,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AND ARE BURIED UNDER THE RUBBLE. USING THOSE NUMBERS, THAT MEANS THAT
300 TO 500 PALESTINIANS ARE KILLED EVERY DAY, AND THERE'S NO QUESTION SKYDIO DRONESCCOUNT FOR MANY OF THOSE DEATHS. YOU MUST DECIDE TO REJECT THE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AS YOU DID WHEN YOU PASSED ONE OF THE
STRONGER IF NOT THE STRONGEST CEASE-FIRE RESOLUTION IN THE COUNTRY IN 2024. OR WHEN YOU VOTED NO TO USE N CITY ANOTHER ISRAELI SURVEILLANCE COMPANY. WE DON'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS GOING TO COMPANIES PROFITING FROM THE GENOCIDE, AND A
COMPANIES WHOSE DRONES HAVE BEEN USED TO SURVEIL PROTESTERS INCLUDING THOSE OPPOSING THE VICIOUS AND EVIL GENOCIDE. REJECT SKYDIO, FREE PALESTINE, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT UP WE HAVE EMILY 15.
SANAA 16. FOLKS IF YOU AGREE MAYBE JUST USE YOUR LITTLE -- IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HEAR UP HERE. THANK YOU. 17, MARY, 18, JEAN. >> EMILY HORWAGHT, WARD 10.
JUNE 10th, 2026, THERE WAS ANINX PRETTY MEMORIAL, A GUN WENT OFF, A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER'S LIFE HUNG IN THE BALANCE. OVER THE COURSE OF THE HOURS THERE WAS NOT AONE WHO CHANGED THINGS NOR THE CONFLICT NEGIATOR. LIKE THE UBIQUITOUS YOU DON'T
WANT DO THAT SCENES IN MOVS THERE ARE AS MANY CONFLICT NEGOTIATORS ON THE 34-7D - MPD AS THERE WERE POLICE CARS. MOSTLY SWORN OFFICERS AND A MENTAL HEALTH -- THE ONLY THING A DRONE DID WAS BE SHOT DOWN CAUSING CONFUSION AS A SOURCE MISREPRESENTED THE DRONE IN A
WAY THAT COULD BE MISTAKEN FOR A HUMAN CASUALTY. DEPRIORITYIZING CONFLICT NEGOTIATORS TO FOCUS ON DRONES WOULD MUDDY THE WATER AND MAKE THEM MOST SENSITIVE SIFNUATION AS HIGHER RISK. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WORKS. SCHOOLS, SOCIAL WORKERS, CONFLICT NIGHTS AIRS, CITY SANITATION CREWS. SINCE
MARCH 1st, 2025, AT LEAST 1243 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN -- TO DRONE STRIKES CARRIED OUT BY GOVERNMENT SECURITY FORCES. WHEN NOT IF I.C.E. RETURNS IN FORCE TO THEWIN CITIES THEY MAY BRING DRONES. IF THEY'RE ALREADY DRONES IN OUR SKIES THERE WILL BE HARDER TO SPOT EASIER TO IGNORE. WHEN THEY ARE
REPORTED HOW LONG DO -- HOW LONG TO AUTHENTICATE WHETHER THEY COME FROM MPD OR I.C.E.? HOW LONG WOULD IT BE THAT PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER WHEN -- PRIMARIES ARE JUST NEXT MONTH GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO SCAN OUR STREETS AND WATCH OR PEOPLE IS A DANGEROUS
THING. IT IS NOTEATH WE FEAR, IT IS THE TERROR THAT COMES BEFORE IT. THE CITY OF NEW YORK CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF INVESTIGATION HAS REPORTED THAT THAT THE ND'S FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM BROKE THE LAW BY NOT DISCLOSING THE CAPABILITIES OF.
ISRAELI DEFENSE STATES THAT SKYDIO ENABLES UNMANNED MISSIONS TO BE EXECUTED DAY AND NIGHT. SERGEANT JAMSON HARRIS FOR THE U.S. -- I PROPOSE ANOTHER PILOT PROGRAM. THE CHANCE TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES, IF WE DO NOT TAKE THIS DEAL, NOTHING CHANGES. IF WE TAKE THIS DEAL
AND IT WORKS OUT, THINGS ARE A LITTLE BETTER. IF WE TAKE THIS DEAL AND WE'RE WRONG TOO -- WHE CAN OF WORMS. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE SUCCESS -- >> 16 --ANAA, 17, MARY, 18, JEAN, 19 JOHN, 20 GREG. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. FOR YOUR
PATIENCE. >> I AM A WORKER IN MINNEAPOLIS AT THE OPEN BOOK BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS. A LOT OF THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME BEFORE ME ALREADY TOUCHED ON MANY OF MY POINTS. I THINK RIGHT NOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT RHETORIC. THIS IS
ABOUT HUMAN LIFE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS IMAGE. EXCUSE ME. LATRISHA VETAW. THIS IMAGE.
THIS IS MOHAMED. A PALESTINIAN FROM GAZA FROM THE -- NEIGHBORHOOD. IN JU JULY 2024, AFTER A SWEEP AFTER HOVERING BY QUADCOPTER DRONES JUST LIKE THE SKYDIO DRONES
PROPOSED IN MINNEAPOLIS, AFTER THE QUADCOPTERS HAD CHOSEN THEIR TARGET, MOHAMMED'S HOME WAS MALLED TO DEATH BY IDF ATTACK DOGS, LITERALLY MANGLED TO
DEATH. MINNEAPOLIS, WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO CONTRACT WITH SKYDIO YOU A DECIDING TO BECOME COMPLICIT IN MOHAMMED'S DEATH. YOU ARE DECIDING TO BE COMPLICIT IN THE GENOCIDE OF GAZA IN YOUR PURSUIT OF STOPPING CRIME, YOU ARE COMMITTING AN EVEN GREATER
CRIME, AND THAT IS THE GENOCIDE AND COMPLICITY IN THE GENOCIDE OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. I ASK YOU TODAY, SAY NO TO THE SKYDIO PROGRAM FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. YOU ARE BEING COMPLICIT IN THE TARGETING AND SURVEILLANCE OF PALESTINIAN JOURNALISTS, THIS IS WELL
DOCUMENTED. REPORTERS WITHOUT BORDERS HAVE FOUND THA OVER 220 PALESTINIAN JOURNALISTS WERE KILLED IN GAZA DURING THE GENOCIDE. THIS IS MORE THAN THE ULT KILLED IN VIETNAM AND WORLD WAR II PUT TOGETHER. WE HAVE DOCUMENTED EMPIRICAL EXAMPLES OF
THIS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF DRONE SURVEILLANCE. AND TWO EXAMPLES OF DRONES TARGETING PALESTINIAN JOURNALISTS SIMPLY FOR REPORTING ON THE SCE AND THAT LEADING TO THEIR DEATH. IF MINNEAPOLIS IS SO CCERNED WITH THEFT, THEY WOULD STOP THE THEFT OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NUMBER 17, MARY. 18, JEAN, 19 JOHN, 20 GREG, 21 MEREDITH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARY FORD, WARD 12. I'M A MEMBER OF THE ANTIWAR COMMITTEE. WHAT HAPPENS IN GAZA DOESN'T STAY IN GAZA. SURVEILLANCE
DRONES IN GAZA QUICKLY BECAME WEAPONIZED DRONES, THEY DROPPED EXPLOSIVES AND FIRED BULLETS. NONE OF THIS IS PAST TENSE. AI POWERED SKY DIO DRONES BATTLE TESTED IN GAZA HAVE INVADED OUR U.S. CITIES. HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES NOW USE SKYDIO DRONES. THE OECD ORGANIZATION FOR ECONOMIC COOPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT QUALIFIES THIS AS A SEVERE A.I INCIDENT. WHY? BECAUSE THROUGH DRONES, U.S. DOMESTIC MILITARY SURVEILLANCE
HAS BECOME NORMALIZED. OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BEING ERODERODED. OUR HUMAN RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED NONSTOP. IN MINNEAPOLIS WE KNOW THAT BAD GOES TO WORSE, AT THE DROP OF A HAT. I REMEMBER IN
LATE MAY, EARLY JUNE OF 2020, DURING GEORGE FLOYD, THE BLACKHAWK HELICOPTER SWOOPING LOW AND LOUD OVER MY HOUSE. BREAKING TREE BRANCHES, AND SCARING NEIGHBORS THAT THE HAD BANDED TOGETHER. THE MINNESOTA
STATE PATROL ALSO FLEW A CIRRUS SPY PLANE OVER OUR CITY AT THAT TIME. U.S. CUSTOMS BORDER PATROL COLLECTED OUR DATA USING A PREDATOR DRONE DURIN GEORGE FLOYD. TO TRACK TARGETS -- THIS
IS NOT THE COMPANY THAT MINNEAPOLIS WANTS TO KEEP. WE WANT TO DEMILITARIZE POLICE WORK. NOT MILITARIZE POLICE WORK TO FURTHER RIDICULOUS LEVELS. AS A MEMBER OF THE ANTIWAR COMMITTEE I ASK YOU TO
VOTE NO TO THE SKYDIO CONTRACT. PLEASE DON'T USE SKYDIO DRONES AGAINST MY NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 18, JEAN. >> MY NAME IS JEAN BURNS. I
LIVE IN WARD 4. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN SO POWERFULLY ABOUT WHY NOT. I WANT MY COUNCIL -- I KNOW MY COUNCILPERSON WON'T DO THIS, BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK CRITICALLY AT THE PRESENTATION WE WERE GIVEN. I DIDN'T TAKE
NOTES, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF DATA MISSING ABOUT HOW MUCH THINGS COST, FOR INSTANCE. HE SAID THAT IT WOULD COST $150,000, JUST $150,000 TO HAVE THOSE TWO DRONES ON PATROLLING WARD 4. JUST $150,000. HOW
MUCH WILL IT COST FOR THE WHOLE CITY? HOW MUCH WILL IT COST ONCE THEY ANALYZE WHAT IT DOES? WILL PEOPLE LIKE SAY YEAH, WE WANT MORE OF THEM? I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THAT PRESENTATION AND CONSIR ALL OF THE WAYS IN WHICH DATA WAS MISSING, ALL OF
THE FACTS, AND HOW BIASED IT WAS. AND I STAND HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS DRONE PROGRAM. AND EVERY SGLE NEIGHBOR I HELPED COLLECT THE OVER 300 SIGNATURES FOR THE PETITION AGAINST THIS IN OUR WARDS, AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON I
TALKED TO IN OUR WARDS OR OUTSIDE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. NOT A SINGLE ONE. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 19, JOHN. 19, JOHN. >> ACTUALLY ME NOW. >> OKAY.
>> JOHN HAD TO LEAVE. SO. >> NUMBER 20 WILL BE GREG, 21 MEREDITH, 22 HEATHER. >> MY NAME IS BETHANY LORRAINE PIOTY, I LIVE IN THE FALLWELL
COMMUNITY AND HAVE SERVED AS A MPS EDUCATORF THE NORTH SIDE FOR 15 YEARS. I'M A QUEER, WIDOW,MOTOR, AND I ALSO AM AN ADVOCATE FOR MY STUDENTS AND FAMILIES I SERVE ON THE NORTH SIDE. PLEASE NOTE I'M HERE AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER FIRST AND DO NOT REPRESENT MY SCHOOL DISTRICT
OR UNION WITH MY WORDS, BUT THEY ARE A PART OF MY IDENTITY. IN MY SERVICE TO THE NORTH SIDE, I HAVE WITNESSED COUNTLESS ACTS OF POLICE BRUTALITY, MY COMMUNITY AND STUDENTS REPORTED AN INCREASE OF ANXIETY AND DISTRUST TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND THE POLICE DURING OPERATION METRO
SURGE. MY COMMUNITY DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THEIR NERVOUS SYSTEMS TO HEAL SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK THAT IS HAPPENING EACH DAY IN OUR CLASSROOMS AND OUR COMMUNITY SPACES. THE PREPS OF DRONES WILL SIMPLY SERVE TO ACTIVATE ASK AN ALREA ACTIVATED COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THE
PRESENCE OF DRONE WILL ONLY SERVE TO ACTIVATE AN ALREADY TRAUMATIZED COMMUNITY. THE PRESENCE OF DRONES WILL INCREASE THE HARM PERPETRATED AGAINST NORTH SIDE RESIDENTS. DRONES DO NOT NEED TO BE A PART OF OUR
HISTORY ON THE NORTH SIDE. THE PRESENCE O THESE DRONES IN OUR COMMUNITY WHEN I UNDERSTAND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN USE HISTORICALLY DEEPLY CONCERNS ME AS A HISTORIAN, COMMUNITY MEMBER, AND ADVCT. THERE PRESENCE OF DRONES FROM THE VERY SAME GOVERNMENT CONTRACT THAT THE GOVERNMENT USES AGAINST PALESTINE IS
GROTESQUE AND SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE SUPPORT THE GENOCIDES THEY ARE PERPETRATING. DO NOT PUT MINNEAPOLIS' NAME ON A YET ANOTHER GENOCIDE PERPETRATOR LIST. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO PUT PEOPLE BEFORE PROFIT IN THIS CASE? AND MOVE AWAY FROM
THE POTENTIAL FOR EVEN MORE BLOODSHED ON WHAT WE ALL KNOW IS STOLEN LAND. SO I LOVE OUR NORTH SIDE COMMUNITY, AND IT NEEDS SPACE TO HEAL AND REBUILD THAT TRUST AMONGST EACH OTHER. WE'VE LA COMPLICATED HISTORY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND DRONES DO NOT
NEED TO BE PART OF THIS HISTORY. >> THANK YOU NUMBER 20, GREG. >> HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG LIND. I LIVE IN WARD 8. I'M A DATA ENGINEER BY TRADE. I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THIS SKYDIO PILOT PROGRAM. I WANT TO FOCUS ON
FOUR ASPECTS. UNCLEAR TRIAL GOALS, UNPROVEN MISSION EFFECTENESS, MISSION CREEP, AND REGULATORY INADEQUACY. UNCLEAR TRIAL GOALS WITH NO STOPPING CRITERIA. THERE ARE NO DEFINED GOALS OR SUCCESS CRITERIA FOR THIS TRIAL. METRICS WILL BE COLLECTED ABOUT RESPONSE TIME AND OTHER FACTORS,
BUT IS THERE ANY MEASUREMENT OUTCOME THAT WOULD STOP THIS PROGRAM FROM GOING FORWARD INTO A FULL CONTRACT? IF NOT, THEN THIS IS JUST AN OPERATIONS TEST, AND NOT ACTUALLY ANY KIND OF EXPERIMENT OR TRIAL. INEFFECTIVE AT MISSION. NO PEER REVIEW OR INDEPENDENT STUDY LINKS DRONES TO CRIME REDUCTION
IN ANY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITED STATES, DRONE COMPANIES CITE OPERATIONAL METRICS LIKE RESPONSE TIME BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THINGS THEY HAVE. AND SINCE THEY USE THOSE AS BOTH THEIR OUTCOMES AND THEIR OPERATIONS METRICS THEY CAN JUICE THEIR OWN STATS ON THIS. WHEN OPERATIONAL METRICS ARE USED AS A PROXY MEASURE, TH
THEY'RE NO LONGER ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE AS OPERATIONAL METRICS. MISSION CREEP. MISSION CREEP AND MISSIONBLERRING IS -- MISSION BLURRING IS BUILT INTO THIS PILOT PROGRAM. IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROGRAM THEN WHY ARE THEY BADGED IN POLICE LIVERY? AND IF IT'S A POLICING PROGRAM, THEN WHY IS IT BEING
HOUSED OUT OF MFD PROPERTY? AND THIS IS, THIS IS CONFUSING. IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GOALS WITH DRONES, MAYBE THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS BUT THIS IS CLEARY A POLICING ACTION. AND INCOMPLETE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. AS PROBABLY -- AS THE ATTORNEY
CITED PREVIOUSLY, UNDER SECTION 626.19 WARRANT EXCEPTIONS ARE FAR TOO WIDE FOR USING THIS. IT'S EASY TO ACQUIRE THIS DATA AND IT'S VERY VULNERABLE TO ABUSE. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TESTS, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY SO JUST DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ON THAT. SO MAYBE THI IS IN RIGHT ANSWER, WHO KNOWS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE TRIAL RIGHT
AT THE VERY LEAST. SO WHO KNOWS. THANK YOU. >> 21, MEREDITH, 2 HEATHER, 24, 25 LAURA, 26 GRACE. >> MEREDITH WENT FIRST SO THERE WAS LIKE THE LITTLE REMIX WE
DID. SO MY NAME IS HEATHER HINKLE. I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 5, AND A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY SAID HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS CONTRACT. RIGHT? THIS PILOT PROGRAM. I WANT TO TALK LITTLE BIT ABOUT SKYDI AS A COMPANY. THEY ARE A
PRIVATE COMPANY SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DISCLOSE ANY OF THEIR FINANCIALS TO THE PUBLIC AT ALL. THIS IS NOT A VERY TRANSPARENT KIND OF BUSINESS MODEL, SO WE CAN'T EVEN SAY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'VE MADE. OFF OF SELLING DRONES TO COUNTRIES LIKE ISRAEL.
I THINK IF TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COMPANY THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER PARTNERING WITH IS TRANSPARENT, AND INHERENTLY A PRATE ORGANIZATION LIKE SKYDIO IS NOT TRANSPARENT. WE CAN'T FIND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY
PRODUCE INTERNALLY TO PROVE THEY HAVE AN EFFECTIVE BUSINESS MODEL AND THAT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE CHOICE TO MAKE AS A CITY, AS A T TAXPAYER, I DON'T WANT MY TAXES TO GO TO COMPANIES THAT PROFIT OFF OF GENOCIDE AND I THINK A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY STATED THATMENT I ALSO
THINK THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WILL REMEMBER YOUR VOTES TODAY, AND THEY WILL BRING THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM TO THE POLL WHEN YOU GUYS ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION. SO I DO WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, AND ACTUALLY LISN TO WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT WITHOUT HAVING
ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MINDS FOR YOUR VOTE ON THIS CONTRACT. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 24, R. HERMAN, 25 LAURA, 26 GRACE, 27 ALLISON.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS ROTEM HERMAN. I AM A WARD OF -- EXCUSE ME, I'M A CONSTITUENT OF WARD 10, I'M AN ACADEMIC AND AN EDUCATOR. EXCUSE ME. I AM ALSO AN ISRAELI AMERICAN AND AS SUCH, AM VERY DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SKYDIO PROPOSAL FOR SEVERAL
REASONS. FIRST, I HAVE SEEN THE NORMALIZATION OF SUCH TECHNOLOGY IN ISRAEL FIRSTHAND AND HOW ITS USE AND ABUSE BECOMES EXPECTED AND EVEN DEEMED NECESSARY IN MORE AND MORE SITUATIONS THAN IT WAS OSTENSIBLY PLANNED TO BE USED. I HAVE SEEN HOW THIS NORMALIZATION GRADUALLY DETERIORATES MORAL STANDARDS,
LEGAL PROTECTIONS AND THE H HUMANITY OFOTH PEOPLE USING IT AND THE PEOPLE AGAINST WHOM IT IS USED. SECOND I BELIEVE USING THE SAM SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY HERE AS IS BEING USED IN A GENOCIDE AGAINST P P PALESTINIANS COULD BE VIEWED AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF SUCH CRIMES
AND WE SHOULD AVOID ENDORSEMENT AT SUCH COSTS. HAVING SEEN HOW THIS IS USED INIDS REAL AND THE U.S. WE SHOULD AVOID OPENING THE DOOR TO THE SAME TERROR AGAINST MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS RATHER THAN OPENING THE DOORB DOOR TO THIS KIND OF SURVEILLANCE WE
SHOULD -- EFFORTS TO PTECT PROTESTERS, FREE SPEECH, AND THE HUMARIGHTS OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 25, LAURA, 26, GRACE, 27 ALLISON, 28 MERCEDES. >> HI, MY NAME IS LAURA. I'M A
RESIDENT OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IN WARD 5. RESIDENTS IN NORTH ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND ALLOWING DRONES TO SURVEIL US IS THE WRONG SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS BEING CITED. A NEIGHBOR OF MINE RECENTLY HAD A
LEGAL DUMP -- ILLEGAL DUMPING OCCUR ON THEIR LOT. LIKE MOST ILLEGAL DUMPING, IT OCCURRED WHEN NO ONE WAS WATCHING, SO THERE WAS NO 911 CALL. 311 HAD NO INTEREST IN THE VIDEO THAT THEY HAD OF THE DUMPING INCIDENT, AND THEY WERE ALSO
TOLD THAT NOW THAT THEY HAD THIS STUFF ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY HAD TO CLEAN IT UP WITHIN A WEEK OR GET A FINE. DRONES WON'T FIX ANY OF THAT. WHEN A SERVICE IS FREE, YOURE THE PRODUCT. SO WE CAN JUST LOOK AT FLOCK TO SEE
HOW SURVEILLANCE DATA IS USED FREELY BY I.C.E. AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENES TO HARASS VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. YOU CAN LOOK AT LAW ENFORCEMENT MISUSE OF SURVEILLANCE DATA AND TOOLS
TO STALK ANDARASS INTIMATE PARTNERS AND EXES AS AN EASY EXAMPLE. SKYDIO, RING, FLOCK, AND OTHER COMPANIES THAT OFFERSS SECURITY COMPANIES. BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE JUST DATA BROKERS, SELLING THE INFORMATION
OBTAINED THROUGH THEIR SURVEILLANCE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IS ALREADY OVERLY SURVEILS. YOU CAN EASILY LOOK AT MAPS OF EXISTING LICENSE PLATE READERS AND FLOCK CAMERAS TO SEE THE CONCENATION IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. IF THIS
SUEILLANCE WAS SO AMAZING AT SOLVING AND PREVENTING CRIME WE WOULD SEE ITS USE IN SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST MINNEAPOLIS TOO, BUT IT IS CONSPICUOUSLY LESS EVIDENT THERE. LASTLY, WHILE THE PILOT FOR THIS PROGRAM IS FREE, ITS
CONTINUED USE IS NOT AND I'M NOT SO NAIVE TO THINK THIS IS A ONE AND DONE SITUATION. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. 26 GRACE, 27 ALLISON, 28 MERCEDES, 29 MEGAN. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GRACE. I'VE BEEN A MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENT FOR SIX YEARS. I LIVE IN WARD 10 CURRENTLY IN THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. LIKE MANY
PEOPLE THAT CAME TODAY, I PREPARED A LOVELY WELL THOUGHT OUT SPEECH FOR YOU ALL ABOUT THE MINNESOTA STATUTES AND THE VAGUENESS OF THEM AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TERRORIST DESIGNATIONS, AND WHERE THIS DATA IS GOING TO BE USED AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BUT MANY PEOPLE HAVE RAISED THOSE POINTS THANKFULLY SO I GET
TO USE MY TIME FOR SOMETHING ELSE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, YOU GHTFULLY ASKED US TO SHOW RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL WHEN YOU INTRODUCED THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. ON THE TV WHEN WE'RE IN THE ROOM WE ACTUALLYAN ONLY SEE THE SPEAKER, AND I JUST WANT T TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE RESPECT NEEDS TO GO BOTH WAYS. IN THE 10 MINUTES I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROOM, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW HAS BEEN ON HER PHONE FOR ABOUT 85% OF THAT TIME, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT BE FRUSTRATED EVEN AS A NONCONSTITUENT OF YOU, LIKE, THAT SO MANY WARD 4 PEOPLE CAME
TODAY, TOOK TIME OFF WORK, TOOK TIME TO PREPARE WELL THOUGHT OUT STATEMENTS AND IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THE ACTIVE LISTENING THING WHEN YOU'RE IN A MEETING YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP EVERY FIVE SECONDS SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT KNOWN AND ASK FOR THE FUTURE RESPECT PLEASE TO YOUR
CONSTITUENTS AND JUST TO CONTINUE THIS ADVOCATING FOR THE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT. >> IF FOLKS CAN PLEASE KEEP IT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND, WHICH TODAY ISHE DRONE CONVERSATION. NEXT UP,7, AISON, 28 MERCEDES,. >> [OFF MIC]
>> MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM. >> 29, MEGAN. 30, IT'S HARD TO READ BUT I THINK THE FIRST NAME STARTS WITH A B. >> HELLO, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALLISON I'M A WARD 9 RESIDENT. AND I GREW UP IN SOUTHWEST MINNEAPOLIS AND GRADUATED FROM WASHBURN HIGH
SCHOOL. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF TWIN CITIES DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE SKYDIO DRONE PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT WILL ACTIVELY ENDANGER OUR COMMUNITY RATHER THAN PROTECT US AND MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT TO FUND A COMPANY IN TECHNOLOGY THAT IS COMPLICIT IN
WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY IN PALESTINE. WE JUST HEARD THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT'S -- WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHT DEPARTMENT'S WORK ONE PILLAR 067 WHICH IS ENSURING EQUITABLE CITY CONTRACTING. HOW IS CONTRACTING WITH THE WEAPONS MANUFACTURER SKY DIO WHO WORKED WITH ISRAEL
TO COMMIT WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGNST HUMANITY IN PALESTINE EQUITABLE CONTRACTING? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN N NETANYAHU HAS ACTIVE WARRANTS FOR HIS ARREST FOR WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES
AGAINST HUMANITY. AND SKYDIO HAPPILY PROFITS FROM THESE CRIMES. APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA FELL WHEN GOVERNMENTS AND COMPANIES WORLDWIDE FINALLY DECIDED TO DIVEST FROM COMPANIES COMPLICIT IN APARTHEID. THAT IS THE CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND HAVE YOU
FORGOTTEN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY? YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN BRING MILITARY GRADE DRONES INTO OUR CITY AND PROMISE US MPD WON'T ABUSE THEM? WHEN MPD HAS FAILED MISSERALLY TO KEEP UP WITH THE -- MISERABLY TO KEEP UP WITH THE CONSENT DECREE
AND DONE FORKING TO KEEP OUR -- DONE NOTHING TO KEEP OUR TRUST. WE HAVE SEEN HOW IT IS USED AND ABUSED WITH OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE U.S. MANY MINNEAPOLIS DO NOT WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO FUND A COMPANY COMPLICIT IN GENOCIDE AND WAR CRIMES. WE DO NOT WANT THAT COMPANY USING THE SAME
TECHNOLOGY IN OUR OWN CITY. SO PLEASE BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, PROTECT YOUR OWN RESIDENTS, AND DON'T FUND A GENOCIDAL COMPANY. THANK YOU. >> 28, MERCEDES. 29 MEGAN. 30B. FIRST NAME, FIRST LETTER IN
THE NAME. NUMBER 31 NATALIE, 32 CAT, 33 EMILY. AND SORRY I'M SAYING NAMES REALLY QUICKLY IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS TODAY TOO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE QUORUM. >> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS MERCEDES. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR SIX YEARS. I'M A MASSAGE THERAPIST. THIS PAST WEEKEND MY STORY REACHED OVER 700,000 VIEWS OF MY VIDEO WENT VIRAL AND I SPOKE OUT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AT HALO HEALING THERAPIES HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS AND MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CAMERA EVIDENCE HANDLED BY THE FIRST PRECINCT
MINNEAPOLIS, HENNEPIN COUNTY, HENNEPIN COUNTY DATA COLLECTIONS AND RESPONSIBLE AUTHORITY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME ANYMORE. MY QUESTION IS WHO IS WATCHING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING US? I BELIEVE MINNEAPOLIS SHOULD BE ASKING HARD QUESTIONS BEFORE EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE. IF THESE PROGRAMS BEGIN IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, A
PREDOMINANTLY BLACK COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO ASK WHY. WHAT PROTECTIONS EXIST AGAINST RACIAL PROFILING AND SOCIOECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION? WHY SHOULD ONE COMMUNITY BECOME THE TESTING GROUND? MANY CAMERAS SHOULD -- MANY CAMERAS ALREADY HAVE THE CAPABILITY WITH SOFTWARE UPDATES
TO SUPPORT AI TOOLS, FACIAL RECOGNITION, MOVEMENT TRACKING, AND LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. WHETHER THESE FEATURES ARE USED DEPENDS ON PUBLIC POLICY. AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES TRANSPARENCY BEFORE SURVEILLANCE EXPANDS, NOT AFTER. THE PUBLIC DESERVES TRANSPARENCY BEFORE SURVEILLANCE
EXPANDS. NOT AFTER. TECHNOLOGY SHOULD PROTECT FREEDOM, NOT QUIETLY NORMALIZE CONSTANT MONITORING. I DON'T NEED IT. IT'S WEIRD. WITHOUT STRONG OVERSIGHT, POWERFUL SURVEILLANCE TOOLS CAN BE ABUSED BY BAD ACTORS, WHETHER INSIDE OR
OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. HISTORY TEACHES US THAT UNCHECKED POWER WILL BE MISUSED. I AM ASKING THE CITY TO CHOOSE TRANSPARENCY OVER SECRECY, ACCOUNTABILITY OVER SILENCE, AND OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OVER UNCHECKED SURVEILLANCE. THE
PUBLIC DESERVES ANSWERS, OVERSIGHT, AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES NO -- TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF FUTURE WE'RE BUILDING HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. SAY NO TO SKYDIO. >> WELCOME.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I KNOW YOU'RE BORED, I KNOW YORE TIRED, I KNOW YOU'RE SORE, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT FOR YOU. MY NAME IS MEGAN PETERSUB I'M A RESIDENT IN WARD 4. I FIRST MET YOU AT THE DFL. I HAVE OVER 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH INDUSTRIAL INTERNET OF THINGS IN CONNECTIVITY INCLUNG
SURVEILLANCE AND MONITORING. IN THE BRIEFING IN MAY AND RESTATED TODAY YOU HAVE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOALS THAT PRAWSMTIONS UTILITY FOR THE GREATER GOOD. THE REALITY WE NEED TO CONSIDER RARELY MATCHES THE IDEAL YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH. MY CONCERN AS A HEMEOWNER AND COMMUNITY -- HOMEOWNER AND COMMUNITY MEMBER IN WARD 4 IS TWO FOLD. THAT IT
WILL BE A VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AGAINST WARRANTLS SURVEILLANCE -- IN -- VERSUS UNITED STATES THE SUPREME COURT RECENTLY RIEWLTED THAT YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, AND EVEN SHORT-TERM SURVEILLANCE OF MOVEMENT IS A SEARCH, SUBJECT TO THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. SECONDLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT NOT JUST HOW
THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD BE USED, BUT HOW IT COULD BE ABUSED. THE CEO OF SKYDIO HAS INDICATED IN PUBLIC HE HAS NO INTENTION OF LIMITING ABILITY TO ARM THESE DRONES TO USE THEM TO CAUSE BODILY HARM. ONCE THE CITY BUYS
THE EQUIPMENT, TRAINS THE PERSONNEL, BUILDS PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AROUND IT, THERE IS ENORMOUS PRESSURE TO MAKE THE PROGRAM PERMANENT. AS PART OF THE PILOT, IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AGAINST PUBLIC OPINION, THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ESTABLISH CLEAR AND EXPLICIT
PRIVACY AND ACCOUNTABILITY GUIDELINES AND SAFEGUARDS INCLUDING DIRECT OVERSIGHT AND CRITERIA FOR ENDING THE PROGRAM IF THEY FAIL TO MEET ESTABLISHED GOALS. I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 4, AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS DFR PILOT PROGRAM. THANK YOU.
>> NUMBER 30, B., STARTS WITH A B. 30. NUMBER 31, NATALIE, 32 CAT, 33 EMILY, 34 REVEREND LAUREN. WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS NATALIE. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS TECHNO FASCISM. YOU ALL
ARE COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE SELLING OUR LIVES FOR BLOOD MONEY. YOU WANT TO USE ISRAEL'S WEAPONS AGAINST A CITY ALREADY OCCUPIED BY THE GESTAPO OR I.C.E. THEY KILLED OUR NEIGHBORS, EXECUTION STYLE IN THE STREETS. WE ALL SAW IT. NOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS A STEP FURTHER AND EXECUTE PEOPLE WITH
THESE DRONES: WHAT WILL YOUR EXCUSE BE WHEN THIS HAPPENS? THAT A.I. DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAINING? MINNEAPOLIS WILL NOT BE THE TESTING GROUND FOR YOUR MILLERATIZATION OF THE POLICE. THE POLICE ARE ALREADY ONE OF THE BIGGEST WASTES OF RESOURCES. YOU'VE GOT COPS SITTING AND
WATCHING PUBLIC BEACHES, I.C.E. HAS BEEN CAMPED OUT AT OUR HOUSE. 15 COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UNION WORKERS AND TEACHESSERS WERE RAISED AND RIPPED OUT -- RAIDED AND RIPPED OUT OF THEIR
HOMES. NOW YOU WANT TO RAMP IT UP, STEP UP FURTHER AND HUNT PEOPLE JUST TRYING TO LIVE. YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY STOPS CRIME? ENSURING THAT PEOPLE'S BASIC NEEDS ARE MET. I SPENT AMERICAN'S 250TH GOING OUT AND FEEDING MY HOMELESS NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M NOT PART OF
AN ORGANIZATION. I JUST GIVE A. NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE'S CIRCUMSTANCES ARE, WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, BUT FREY AND ALL OF Y'ALL WANT TO ROUND UP AND CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING VICTIMS OF A SYSTEM THAT IS MEANT TO TO EXTRACT EVERYTHING FROM YOU. WE THE PEOPLE HERERE CLOSER TO THE LKS LIVING IN TENTS THAN WE
WILL EVER BE TO THESE RICH MONSTERS BRINGING FORTH THE TECHNO AUTHORITARIAN WEAPONS THEY WOULD RATHER SPEND TAX DOLLARS ON DRONES FOR THE POLICE TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES WITH LIVING TARGETS THAN SUPPORT MEETING REAL NEEDS. YOU HAVE DONE NOTHIN TO HELP THE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO HIDE YOUR COMPLICITY AND THE FASCIST
REGIME AND THE PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NUMBER 30, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BRIAN, 32, CAT, 33 EMILY. >> HI, MY NAME IS CAT. AND I'M BEEN A RESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS
FOR NOT VERY LONG. I'M HONESTLY WAS COMING UP HERE AND PLANNING TO STRIKE THE TONE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THE SERIOUSNESS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. I HAVE LAST THE SEVERAL DOZEN PEOPLE WALK THROUGH HERE AND HAD BLANK STARES FROM THE COMMITTEE AT EACH -- NOT EVERYONE OF THEM BUT
A GOOD PORTION OF THEM IT'S BEEN VERY DISHEARTENING TO SEE LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURES OF OUR FAMILIES AND THE PEOPLE WE CARE ABO BUT REGARDLESS. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR, LET ME SET
ASIDE THE POLITICS, THIS IS LIKE A BREAKING POINT FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I MEAN, THERE IS A SAYING ABOUT BREAD AND CIRCUSES, RIGHT? AND RIGHT NOW THE GOVERNMENT IS ATTEMPTING TO CRACK DOWN ON THE INTERNET WHICH IS A BIG DISTRACTION FOR MY GENERATION
AND ABOVE. YOU'RE GETTING RID OF THE CIRCUS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO OUTSIDE AND THEY WILL HAVE DRONES WATCHING THEM WHENEVER THEY WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE. LIKE THIS ISN'T GOING TO LAST. AND I THINK THAT A PART OF MOST, I
MEAN, I THINK POLITICIANS HAVE TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T BE MAKING DRONES OR LIKE MAKING CONTRACTS WITH DRONE COMPANIES TO SPY ONS IF YOU DIDN'TNDERSTAND PEOPLE WERE REACHING A BREAKING POINT. SO YOU CAN TRY TO KEEP STOPPING IT WITH SECURITY DRONES AND ALL
THAT, OR YOU CAN LIKE DO THE RIGHT THING AND STAND BY YOUR CONSTITUENTS NOW, AND NOT SELL THEM OUT TO A LITERAL GENOCIDAL STATE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> 33, EMILY.
34 REVEREND LAUREN. 35 AVERY. 37 BETHANY. 38 ZACH. >> I'M REVEREND LAUREN McGRAIL, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE MINNESOTA CHRISTIANS FOR FREE PALESTINE. BEFORE I GIVE OUR STATEMENT, I WANT TO JUST
SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT MYSELF. I'M A RECENT PERSON WHO MOVED HERE IN FEBRUARY FROM MAINE, SO ONE COLD PLACE TO ANOTHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SURGE, AND BEFORE
THAT, I SERVED MY CHURCH IN PALESTINE LIVING IN OCCUPIED EAST JERUSALEM, WORKING WITH THE YWCA. OF PALESTINE. I WENT IN AND OUT OF GAZA. MANY OF MY FRIENDS ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF
DRONES LIKE THIS, AND OUR GOVERNMENT WORKING WITH ISRAEL SO THIS IS ALSO VERY PERSONAL TO ME. NOT IN THE WAY THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS EXPRESSED, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU THE STATEMENT FROM THE ORGANIZATION THAT I
JOINED AS SOON AS I COULD. WE, MINNESOTA CHRISTIANS FOR A FREE PALESTINE, ARE A COMMUNITY OF CHRISTIANS WHO ARE CALLED TO USE OUR PUBLIC VOICE AND COLLECTIVE POWER TO ADVOCATE FOR PEACE,
CHALLENGE CHRISTIAN ZIONISM, AND RESIST ALL FORMS OF EMPIRE. WE DO THIS BY MOBILIZING AGAINST THE USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS TO PERPETRATE THE GENOCIDE OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. WE STAND IN
SOLIDARITY WITH THE PALL STIN -- PPALESTINIAN PEOPLE BY SUPPORTING THE PALESTINIAN CALL FOR BOYCOTT, DIVESTMENT, AND SANCTIONS. WE CELEBRATE AND SUPPORT OUR MAIN LINE CHURCHES THAT ARE TAKING PRINCIPLE STANDS AGAINST COMPANIES THAT ARE
PROFITING FROM THE ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS, ONGOING VIOLENCE, AND GENOCIDE. WE COMMEND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH USA FOR ITS RECENT DECISION TO DIVEST. >> THANK YOU. NUMBER 35.
AVERY, 38, ZACH, 39 ARLENE. 40 40 JOSIAH. >> HI, MY NAME IS AVERY, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING UP AND SPEAKING TO A COUNCIL LIKE THIS. I LIKE POLITICS BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN VERY ACTIVE MYSELF. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
MY COLLEAGUES HERE ARE SAYING VERY SIMILAR THINGSISM YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD A LOT OF ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHY THE DRONES ARE BAD, BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO KIND OF PUBLIC POSITION. I HATE THESE THINGS. I THINK IT LOOKS SO DUMB LIKE READING MY SECH
FROM MY PHONE BUT I DO HAVE IMPORTANT THOUGHTS. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE POLITICS ARE COMPLICATED. POLITICS ARE IN THIS INFINITE JUGGLE BETWEEN MEETING PEOPLE'S NEEDS AND JUGGLING PUBLIC OPINION WHICH ARE SOMETIMES AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY WE WOULD
IMPLEMENT THE DRONE PROGRAM UNDER THE GUISE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. WE THE PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THE, WE DON'T TRUST THE PEOPLE OR THE SYSTEM ADMINISTERING THIS. AND I KNOW LOT OF YOU DON'T EITHER. WHAT IT I MOST DON'T UNDERSTAND IS
WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. PEOPLE DON'T FEEL UNSAFE BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH DRONES IN THE AIR. MOST PEOPLE DON'T FEEL UNSAFE BECAUSE OF SOME PERCEIVED RISE IN VIOLENT CRIME AMONGST BAD ACTORS, MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE AFRAID OF THE POLICE. BECAUSE OF I.C.E., AND BECAUSE OF THE VERY INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE SWORN TO PROTECT
PEOPLE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A WASTEFUL AND UNNESSARY SPENDING. WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN THE GOVERENT IS GIVEN CERTAIN KIND OF POWER, THAT THEY WILL NEVER RELINQUISH THAT POWER. THE LESS MONEY THAT GOES INTO CIVILIAN SURVEILLANCE AND DRONE MONEY, THE MORE MONEY WE HAVE TO FEED OUR POOR AND SUPPORT OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET
SYSTEMS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POWER IS LIMITED BY MANY FACTORS, SOME DESIGNED BY THE SYSTEM, AND SOME BECAUSE BURNING BRIDGES WITH THE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH EVERY DAY SUCH AS THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS UNPRODUCTIVE FOR YOUR GOALS AND YOUR POSITION. HOWEVER, DRONE FUNDING UNDERMINES THE HARD WORK TH THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING IN ORDER TO REBUILD PUBLIC TRUST
WITH THE POLICE AND LOCAL FEDERAL AGENTS. I URGE THE COUNCIL NOT TO PASS THIS FUNDING TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS THE SECURITY ISSUE THAT DOES NOT EXIST. THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 38, ZACH, 39 ARLENE, 40 JOSIAH, 41 PATRICK. SO THAT
WOULD BE 38, ZACH. >> HELLO. MY NAME -- I LIVE IN WARD 13. GRATEFUL TO SPEAK TO NOT MICHAEL RAINVILLE TODAY. DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER JAMAL CASH
COOINGY? THE AMERICAN CITIZEN AND SAUDI JOURNALIST WHO WAS CHOPPED INTO PIECES AND PUT INTO A BARREL OF ACID IN THE SAUDI CONSULATE IN TURKEY? THAT WAS IN 2019. DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE PAGERS THAT EXPLODED IN LEBANON KILLING OVER 2,000
PEOPLE AND INJURING OVER 3,000. MANY UNDER THE AGE OF 12. BOTH OF THOSE, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS DID YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU GUYS THISOR THE FIRST TIME WERE CONDUCTED BY UNIT 8200 SPECIAL INTELLIGENCE OF THE IDF. SKYDIO DRONES ARE ALSO DONE AND
CONDUCTED BY SPECIAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT 8200 OF THE IDF. SKYDIO DRONES ARE A CIA BACKED DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE BEEN SURVEILLING AND KILLING PALESTINIAN PEOPLE THE ENTIRETY OF THE GENOCIDE. AND WHOELSE -S
THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE OF THESE COVERT PROGRAMS? RIGHT? YOU COMBINE THIS WITH THE MASSIVE INCREASE OF FLOCK CAMERAS AND THE EMPIRE'S CURRENT SURVEILLANCE STRAIGHT AND THEN WE WATCH THE IMPERIAL BOOMERANG IN EVITABLY UNFOLD. AS WHAT WE ALLOW TO BE
DONE TO PALESTINIANS IS NOW GOING TO BE DONE TO US BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T STAND UP AGAINST THE EMPIRE WHEN IT DOESN'T BENEFIT YOU, FOR PEOPLE THAT N'T LOOK LIKE YOU, IT TURNS ONTO US AND THAT'S EXACTLYWHAT'E SITTING UPERE, EXCEPT FOR MICHAEL RAINVILLE BECAUSE HE'S
GETTING MAGA DONATIONS WILT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SURVEILLANCE AND ENSUING DEBTS OF YOUR CITIZENS. SKYDIO IS ALREADY IN 800 CITIES WHILE DATA CENTERS ARE DESTROYING OUR EARTH THERE IS STILL A GENOCIDE ON DAKOTA LAND OF INDIGENOUS AND BLACK PEOPLE AND THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS
IS MIND BLOWING. I KNOW A COUPLE OF Y'ALL CARE ABOUT PALESTINIANS. LEBANESE, CUBANS, V -- MOST OF YOU DON'T BUT IF YOU DO CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO
F -- >> THANK YOU. >> IT WILL NOW HAPPEN TO YOUR CHILDREN AS WELL. >> IF WE CAN PLEASE -- IF WE CAN PLEASE KEEP THE TOPIC AT HAND, THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT. >> I WAS 33 I'M AFRAID I WAS SKIPPED. >> 33? >> ARE WE ALREADY ON -- SORRY, NEVER MIND.
>> GIVE ME A SECOND. EMILY? >> YEAH. >> YEAH, WELCOME. >> OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME JUMP IN. >> WHAT NUMBER WAS THAT? >> I'M 33. >> IT WAS 33. >> THE NEXT PERSON IS 39,
ARLENE. >> OKAY, YEP. HELLO, HI, I HAVE LIVED IN MINNEAPOLIS SINCE 2007. I HAVE BEEN A HOMEOWNER HERE SINCE 2016 SO I DO HAVE SOME MONEY INVESTED IN THIS PLACE, AND I TRULY DO NOT WANT ME REAL ESTATE TAX DOLLARS GOING TO A COMPANY THAT IS PART OF A GENOCIDE. THIS VOTE SHOULD HAVE
AN INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS ANSWER. I DID HEAR SOMEONE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE COST PROJECTIONS OF THESE DRONES, AND I EVEN HEARD THE WORDS COST SAVINGS. BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO SAVE MONEY. THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE COULD JUST ASSAULT PEOPLE LESS OFTEN. I HAVE BEEN IN THE LIMS
SYSTEM, I HAVE LOOK SAID UP THE AMOUNTS OF THE SETTLEMENTS, THE PAYOUTS PEOPLEECEIVE WHEN THEY SUE THE CITY AND IT IS AN PEOPLE USED TO THINK THAT BODY CAMS RUR GOING TO HELP SOLVE CRIME BUT THEY SEEM TO BE TURNED
OFF AT VERY CRITICAL MOMENTS. THE DRONES ALSO WOULD NOT HELP SOLVE CRIME. TERRIBLE IDEAS OFTEN HAVE SOME KIND OF AFFRONT, A FAKE REASON USED TO MASK SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS NOT BEING SAID OUT LOUD. I DO NOT BELIEVE THESE DRONES WOULD HELP THE
PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. I'M SURE SOMEONE HAS TRIED TO TELL YOU THAT THEY WILL. THAT IS NOT TRUE. MINNEAPOLIS IS GUZ NOT NEED TO -- MINNEAPOLIS DOES NOT NEED TO TURN INTO BIG BROTHER FROM 1984. THANK YOU.
>> NUMBER 39, ARLENE, 40 JOSIAH, 41 PATRICK. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE. ASK YOU TO BELIZE KEEP IT RESPECTFUL -- PLEASE KEEP IT RESPECTFUL. >> THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. MY NAME IS ARLENE MATHESON, I LIVE IN WARD 11, AND THE COMMENTS HAVE ECHOED WHAT I
FEEL THE COMMENTS HAVE REALLY ECHOED. I RETIRED EARLY TO DEDICATE MY TIME TO CLIMATE ACTION. I WANT TO SEE THE CITY SPEND MONEY ON CLIMATE AND OTHER THINGS THAT HELP PEOPLE, NOT THESE FALSE SOLUTIONS. FLYING CAMERAS AREN'T GOING TO ACTUALLY
HELP ANYBODY ANYMORE THAN A.I. IS GOING TO HELP SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP, 40 JOSIAH, 41 PA41 PATRICK.
>> HELLO, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING TO GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS PATRICK McDOUGAL A RESIDENT OF WARD 14 I WOULD LIKE TO OUT ROIN A NUMBER OF CONCERNS. IN ADDITION TO THE 4th AMENDMENT AND HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS AND ABUSES
PERPETUATEDY SKYDIEE'S OTHER CUSTOMERS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SHARED TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON A NUMBER OF OTHER CONCERNS. I I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE THE NEIGHBORS NEARBY WILL HAVE TO ENDURE. LOOK INTO THE 1996 AND 2007 MAX SETTLEMENTS FOR AIRPORT NOISE,
NEIGHBORS LIVING WITHIN THE AIRPORT HAVING GREATER THAN 60 DECIBELS OF NOISE, THE MAC HAD TO PAY OUT $126 MILLION AND $185 MILLION IN 1996. DRONES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LOUDER THAN
THAT. THEY ARE 70 TO 95 DECIBELS LOUD AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MAKE A COMME COMMENT ABOUT AVIATION SAFETY. I MYSELF AM A STUDENT PILOT WHO HAS FLOUN OUT OF CRYSTAL AIRPORT BEFORE. CRYSTAL AIRPORT'S --
MINNEAPOLIS' UNDERWHYS CRYSTAL AIRPORT'S D AIRSPACE AND BORDERS ROBINSDALE WHICH HAS MEDEVAC HOSPITALS LANDING AND TAKING OFF FROM THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT CRYSTAL AIRPORT HAS 41,000 LANDINGS AND TAKEOFFS AT
CRYSTAL, AND THE PLANES ARE VERY LOW AT THAT POINT WHEN THEY'RE TAKING OFF AND LANDING, AND THEY COULD BE CONFLICTS WITH POLICE DRONES OPERATING IN MINNEAPOLIS. FINALLY I WOD LIKE TO CALL OUT AS ONE OF THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO SPOKE, TALKED ABOUT, THE METRICS
IN TERMS OF HOW THESE THINGS SHOULD BE EVALUATED, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE INCREMENTALITY OF THIS SO IF FOR EXAMPLE POLICE WERE GOING TO RESPOND ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT LIKE WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED HAD THESE DRONES NOT BE
PRESENT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> 42, DEREK, 43A, 44 RICH, 45 JULIA. THANK YOU ALL. >> ALL RIGHT SO I'M DEREK. I THINK OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB TALKING ABOUTHE CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES HERE. I WANT TO ACTUALLY SERIOUSLY
QUESTION THE ACTUAL UTILITY OF DRONES AS A FIRST RESPONDER. I THINK THE MPD MIGHT BE FALLING OR THE CITY RATHER MIGHT BE FALLING FOR ANOTHER JUST A KIND OF SLICK SALES PITCH. SO THESE THINGS WOULD HAVE, THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE OPERATOR TO ACTUALLY TALK WITH ANYONE ON SITE. THAT
MEANS THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE PRETTY LIMITED CAPABILITY OF LIKE ACTUALLY GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S JUST A FLYING CAMERA. MOST DOMESTIC DISTURBANCES ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE INDOORS. I CAN'T SEE THESE THINGS BEING ACTUALLY VERY USEFUL FOR MUCH BEYOND, YOU KNOW, MISSION CREEP WHERE THEY JUST BECOME THE THING THAT'S LIKE MONITORS PROTESTS BEYOND
ESSENTIALLY BECOMING MASS SURVEILLANCE TOOL. I THINK T PUBLIC IS GOING TO HATE SEEING THESE LIKE FACELESS VOICELESS DRONES FLYING AROUND OBSERVING THEM. I THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY UNDERMINE THE, YOU KNOW, REMAINING TRUST THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS. I
WAS ALSO PRETTY FRIGHTENED TO HEAR THAT OUR DATA WOULD BE KEPT SAFE BY DEPARTMENT POLIC IT WAS ALSO DEPARTMENT POLICY TO USE THE MAXIMUM RESTRAINT TECHNIQUE THAT KILLED GEORGE FLOYD, AND SO FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T QUITE TRUST DEPARTMENT POLICY TO KEEP ME SAFE.
DEPARTMENT POLICY CAN ALSO CHANGE. YEAH THEY'RE NOT SHARING DATA NOW BUT IN 10 YEARS EY MIGHT BE. I R AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY CAN'T TRUST TO NOT SCALE OVER TIME, TO T GROW OVER TIME. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT MAINLY I REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO END UP
WITH A LOT MORE UNNECESSA ARRESTS, A LOT MORE UNNECESSARY ASSAULTS ON OFFICERS. I CAN'T SEE THIS ACTUALLY LEADING TO MORE SAFETY FOR AONE. I THINK IT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER BIG TECH
INVENTION. IT WON'T BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY VERY MUCH BUT IT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNI THAT CREATED IT VERYUCH. I THINK THIS WILL MAKE MONEY FOR SKYDIO AND NOT A WHOLE LOT ELSE. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXPENSIVE WAY TO -- PLEASE DON'T GIVE AWAY MY CIVIL LIBERTIES BECAUSE A FANCY TECH GUY FROM CALIFORNIA GAVE A
NICE SALES PITCH. >> 43, A. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. EVERYONE ELSE HAS MADE SUCH GOOD POINTS I'M REALLY GETTING DOWN THE LIST HERE. BUT ANYWAY I WANTED TO BRING UP SEARCH AND SEIZURE LAWS. I CHRONE IF YOU ARE
ALL A-- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE, THERE IS PLAINIEW DOCTRINE. I REALLY QSTION WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN YOU CAN HAVE TELEPHOTO LENSES AND INFRARED CAMERAS AND HEAT CAMERAS AND SUCH THAT FLY OVER PEOPLE'S HOUSES. I ALSO WORRY ABOUT THEM SETTING UP THINGS LIKE WHAT THEHAVE AT THE STATE
FAIR IS ESSENALLY THEY HAVE DRONES IN THE AIR PROVIDING LIKE 24/7 SURILLANCE ALL THEIME. WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THAT STATE FAIR BUT LOOK FOR IT THIS YEAR. I'M MAD NAT YOU GUYS HAVE MONEY FOR THIS
WHEN WE DON'T HAVE LIFEGUARDS. LIKE GIVE US LIFEGUARDS, NOT THIS STUFF. ALSO, ALSO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF DATA FOR, GOD, FLOCK CAMERAS FOR, FOR MONTHS NOW. GOING ONSD
THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THIS. MY REQUEST WAS DENIED. IT'S NOW BEING APPEALED. I APPEALED PROBABLY FOUR MONTHS AGO. I KNOW THAT DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY BACKED UP, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN GET ONE
OF THESE FLOCK CAMERAS AS WELL. ALSO IF YOU GUYS CAN'T GIVE ME DATA FOR THIS, WILL YOU GIVE ME DATA FOR OTHER THINGS AND THE ANSWER ISROBABLY NOT, AND THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER LIKE COURT FINDING IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SAYING THAT YOU KNOW ALL THIS FOOTAGE AND ALL THE FINDINGS FROM THESE DRONES ARE ALSO PUBLIC INFORMATION, AND YOU
KNOW WHAT? YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DRAG YOUR HEELSOON GIVING THAT IORMATION AS WELL. SO YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS, DO NOT ACCEPT THIS, AND RELEASE ALL OF THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FROM ALL EXISTING
ALPRs. I KNOW YOU GUY USE OTHER ONES. I KNOW THERE IS SOME OFF BRAND ONES THAT MAKE ARE CHEAPER THAT MAKE PEOPLE LESS MAD BUT THEY NEED TO GO AS WELL. >> 44 RICH, 45 JULIA, 46 ASHER.
>> MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE GROUP, MY NAME IS RICH NEWMEISTER I'M ONE OF THE FOREMOST FOLKS ON PRIVACY AND OPEN GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE. BEEN DOING IT FOR HALF A CENTURY, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU. SOME OF YOU HAVE EVEN REFERRED FOLKS FOR ME -- >> CAN YOU BE PLEASE SPEAK IN THE MIC, PLEASE.
>> WHAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK IS ABOUT FIVE THINGS. I THINK YOU NEED TO DO. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS STUDY. I HELPED WRITE THE LAW IN 2019. I'M FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE DYNAMICS. IN THE DASHBOARD, YOU MUST MAKEURE ALL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE DASHBOARD. THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAW, WHY
IT, THE CASE NUMBER, ALSO OTHER INFORMATION TO WHERE AND ALSO PUT ON TOP OF THE DASHBOARD THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE DRONES GO THAT THEY CAN DO A DATA REQUEST BECAUSE A LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION IS PUBLIC, MORE DETAILED OF WHY THE DRONE
WAS USED OR WHATEVER. THAT BRINGS ACCOUNTABILITY IN. ONE, BUILD THE SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN ONE ASK BECAUSE UNDER STATE LAW, THERE IS VIDEO AVAILABLE AND IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF IT BECOMES AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION. THIS I GET DRONE VIDEO ALL THE TIME, AND THIS IS WHERE I'VE SEEN WHERE POLICE OFFICERS WL GO AFTER PEOPLE, ARREST THAT GIVES AN EYE FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. SEE I HAVEN'T TESTIFIED IN MINNEAPOLIS IN MANY YEARS, I'M A
ST. PAUL KID. GOT TO GET USED TO THIS. NUMBER 3, AND AT THE LEGISLATURE A LOT. YOU SIT DOWN. THERE IS A FIN LINE BETWEEN PATROLLING AND GOING OUT FOR FIRST RESPONSE. IN MY STUDIES OF WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, SO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN YOU COME UP WITH
SOME PLANS FOR THIS STUDY. YOU AN THE CITY OF MINNEOLIS NEED TO HAVE SOME EVALUATIVE MARKS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS 75-DAY THING, AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR OR CAN
COUNCIL PAYNE WHO I HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UNDER CITY ORDINAN, YOU CAN BE MORE RESTRICTIVE. AND THE REAL THING IS AT -- >> THANK YOU, RICH. >> DON'T HAVE AN ONGOING CLAUSE THAT IT CONTINUES PAST 75 DAYS. OP AND EVALUATE. >> THANK YOU, RICH. AND -- >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR
TIME. >> YOU CAN SUBMIT THOSE TO COUNCIL COMMENTS IF YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THE CLERKS. NEXT UP, 45, JULIA, 46 NATALIE, 47 ASHER, 48 HASSAN AND IF YOU WISH TO TESTIFY YOU STILL CAN BUT NOT REQUIRED AND WE ALSO NEED TO MOVE ON TO OTHER TOPICS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES. MY NAME IS JULIA GARRONBECK MILLER AND I LIVE IN WARD 2. I HAVE LIVED MY ENTIRE LIFE IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. I'VE WENT TO SCHOOL HERE AND AM PROUD TO BE
FROM HERE, AND THE SAFETY I HAVE FELT IN THE CITY HAS NOT COME FROM POLICE EVER, NOR WILL IT COME FROM THIS PROPOSED A.I. DRONE IMPLEMENTATION. B O NOW WHEN I SAY I HAVE ALWAYS
FELT SAFE HERE I'M NOT A PERSON -- SUPICIOUS -- AS MENTIONED IN THE SLIDE SHOW. I AM NOT A PERSON THAT THE DRONES WILL IDENTIFY AS A CREDIBLE THREAT EVER. SO THIS NEW DRONE IMPLEMENTATION WILL ONLY FURTHER
INVADE IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THEIR PERSONAL PRIVACY, NOT TO MENTION THAT I.C.E. IS STILL VERY MUCH PRESENT AND ACTIVE IN OUR CITY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. SKYDIO WAS NOT ASKED FOR EVER, DEFINITELY
NOT BY THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. CURRENTLY IN I.C.E. DEATH CAMPS RIGHT NOW, NOR BY ANY MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. I ENCOURAGE FOR THIS PROGRAM TO NOT GO THROUGH AND TO BE SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU.
>> 46, NATAL, 47 ASHER, 48 HASSAN. >>> HELLO, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS NATALIE. I WAS BORN IN MINNESOTA. I'VE LIVED IN MINNEAPOL FOR THE LAST
SEVEN YEARS AND I CURRENTLY I LIVE IN WARD 7. I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS A NORMAL RESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS. WN I CARE ABOUT SOMETHING POLITICALLY, I GO OUT AND SHOW MY SUPPORT, WHETHER THAT BE AT AN EVENT OR A RALLY OR A DEMONSTRATION OR A PROTEST OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT
BE. EARLIER WE MENTIONED THE USES OF DRONES WITHOUT WARRANTS, WHICH INCLUDED AREAS THAT MIGHT BE SUSPECTED OF HAVING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR EVENTS WHICH MIGHT BECOME UNSAFE. BOTH OF WHICH ARE VERY ON ENDED. THIS IS A VERY OBVIOUS SLIPPERY SLOPE INTO
CATALOGING AND RECORDING PEOPLE, POSSIBLY WITH FACIALECOGNITION DOWN THE LINE, WHICH I'M OPPOSED TO. I BELIEVE ATTENDI THE DEMONSTRATIONS AND PROTESTS IS A NECESSARY PART OF BEING IN A DEMOCRACY AND MAKING OUR VOICES
HEARD. IN OUR POLITICAL CLIMATE, ACTIVISTS AND PROTESTERS ARE BEING LABELEDS EXTREMISTS. IF I GO TO A PROTEST FOR ANY REASON, I DON'T WANT TO BE SURVEILLED, CATALOGED, SHARED WITH GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND LABELED AS AN AGITATOR OR AN EXTREMIST OR SOMETHING EVEN WORSE. SO
PLEASE, I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE AGAINST THIS SKYDIO DEAL AND ANY SORT OF DRONE DRONE SURVEILLANCE FR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> 47 ASHER, 48 HASSAN. >>PEAKING TO ALL THE PEOPLE LISTENING OVER HERE, OVER HERE. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE DRONE COMPANY'S CONNECTION TO THE U.S.-ISRAELI GENOCIDE IN GAZA. I HAD HEARD ONE PERSON SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPERIAL BOOMERANG.
AND THE WEAPONS USE IN GAZA COMING BACK TO BE USED IN THE U.S. LIKE THE DEADLYXCHANGE PROGRAM AND ANOTHER SPEAKER ABOUT BODY CAMERAS AND THE EFFECTS IN THE BOOK -- I WISH TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO ALL PRESENT, THE STATE IS NOT CLASS NEUTRAL. THE STATE IS ORGANIZED COMMITTEE OF THE RULING CLASS, AND IN A
CAPITALIST SYSTEM THE STATE IS BEHOLDEN TO THE INTERESTS OF THE CAPITALIST CLASS. THIS IS A CLASS WAR, AND EVERY TOOL IN OUR CLASS AND ME IS A WEAPON TO BE USED AGAINST US. WE MUST AGITATE, EDUCATE, AND ORGANIZE. [APPLAUSE]
>> NUMBER 8, HASSAN. >> FIRST, MY NAME IS HARUN, NOT HASSAN. >> IT MAY BE SOMEONE ELSE, IT SAYS HASSAN HERE, SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE NAMED HASSAN?
>> THERE WAS A MAN THAT STEPPED OUT ACTUALLY. >> OKAY. DID YOU SIGN UP? IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP, AFTER YOU TESTIFY, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST SIGN UP? >> I HAVE SIGNED UP. I BELIEVE IT'S ME 48. YES YEAH, THAT'S ME >> H-A.-SAN.
>> HARUN. >> I'M 48. >> OH, THEN -- OKAY. I THINK WE'LL JUST FIGURE THAT OUT AFTER. IF YOU COULD JUST SIGN UP AGAIN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US. >> THANK YOU. >> OUTSIDE? >> AFTER. YOU CAN SPE. >> LRGT, I WASN'T PREPARED TO
SPEAK TODAY, BUT AFTER HEARING EVERYONE SPEAK ABOUT THE ONGOING GENOCIDE IN GAZA, THIS GAVE ME THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND SAY SOMETHING. THE MOST HORRIFYING THING I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE IS AN INFANT IN GAZA DYING IN PAIN
UNDERNEATH RUBBLE. AND THE CORPATION RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IS THE CORPORATION YOU ALL WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH. IS THIS HOW MORALLY BANKRUPT WE ARE AS A COUNTRY? AS A PEOPLE? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO SEE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED AND TO DO BUSINESS
WITH THEM, TO GIVE THEM OUR MONEY. IS THIS WHO WE ARE? ARE THESE THE VALUES THE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTS? THE STATE, THIS COUNTRY? I REMEMBER GROWING UP SEEING THE IRAQ WAR
THE SAME BODIES LYING AROUND BAGHDAD THING WHY IS MY COUNTRY -- THINKING WHY HAS MY COUNTRY DONE THIS BUT I WAS TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND. NOW THAT I'M OLDER I UNDERSTAND IT'S CAPITALISM, IT'S MONEY, NOTHING ELSE, AS LONG AS SOMEONE MAKES MONEY OFF OF REBUILDING,
KILLING, AND REBUILDING AGAIN AND THEN KILLING. WHEN WILL IT END? WHEN DOES THE KILLING ENDN MATTER MORE THAN MONEY AND WHY DON'T THEY MATTER MORE THAN MONEYO ALL OF YOU? THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS T COMMITTEE AND I'M GOING TO ASK THREE TIMES. GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE. GOING THREE TIMES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE IF YOU
MIND LEAVING AFTER COUNCILMEMBER VETAW RETURNS, THAT WOULD BE HELPHELPFUL SO WE DON'T LOSE QUORUM. SEEING THAT, WITH NO ONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR COMING TO TESTIFY. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE
QUORUM IN GENERAL SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS ITEM, FOLKS CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM, AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED TO THE LAST THREE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA. SO WITH THAT, I WILL NOW OPEN THE QUEUE. WELL, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AS I SAID EARLIER, AND I WILL OPEN UP THE QUEUE TO SEE IF KNEY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WANT TO SAY ANY COMMENTS, ASK QUESTIONS. I WILL FIRSTURB TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE SINCE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, IF THAT'S CAYITH EVERYBODY. >> JUS QUICK POINT. ARE PEOPLE
HOPING TO TAKE A VOTE BEFORE? WE TAKE OFF? >> I WIL EXPLAIN THE GOAL. THE GOAL IS TO BE MOVE FORWARD WOT RECOMMENDATION AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S A VOTE OF NO POSITION SO THE FINAL VOTE WILL HAPPEN ON THURSDAY WHERE THE FULL CITY COUNCIL WILL VOTE IN SUPPORT OR
AGAINST OF THE CONTRACT. SO TODAY THE GOAL MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, SO THAT'S THE GOAL TODAY. SO THE PUBLIC, THE, WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S NO POSITION ON THE
CONTRACT. THE CONTRACT WILL COME TO A VOTE IN FRONT OF FULL COUNCIL WHERE ALL COUNCILMEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT OR NOT. A VOTE FROM A COMMITTEE IS NOT AN OFFICIAL FINAL ACTION ON A VOTE. THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. OKAY.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE? >> YEAH, I JUST WANT -- THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION AT 4:00. I HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. MANY OF THEM HAVING TO DO WITH
POLICY 4226 ON UAVs. I DON'T THINK I HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THOSE QUESTIONS SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT COMMANDER THAT YOU COULD BE AVAILABLE DURING THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE TAKE THE FINAL VOTE ON THIS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR
CONNECT ME WITH BEFORE THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. AND CONFIRM WE DON'T LOSE QUORUM WITH FOUR PEOPLE, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> GOOD.
>> COOL. THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ AND THANK YOU TO ALL. I THINK 49 FOLKS THAT HAVE COME AND SPO RIGHT, I'M WRITING DOWN HERE RIGHT I THINK I HAVE 37 INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY TODAY ABOUT
SPECIFIC THINGS RELATED TO THE SKYDIO CONTRACT. SO I HAVE A LARGE LIST OF QUESTIONS, AND SO FOR WHOEVER IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, D.C. IF THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR YOU, HAPPY TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THEM. RIGHT OUTSIDES OF KIND OF MY
UNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT THE PROGRAM, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF WHA WHAT WE ARE HEARING A LOT OF VALID CONCERNS ABOUT A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS. I THINK THE ONES THAT I AM HEARING KIND OF AS A JUST BECAUSE WRITING THEM DOWN, THE FIRST I THINK LEVEL OF THIS QUESTION IS AROUND
SURVEILLANCE, AND SURVEILLANCE KIND OF CAPACITIES WITH THIS LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY AND THESE DRONES, AND SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO, RIGHT, YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THESE DRONES, ARE THEY GOING TO BE USED FOR SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY? DO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO
SURVEIL ANYTHING IN RELATION TO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN ANY CLARIFICATION. >> SURE, THROUGH THE CHAIR TO COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. -- OUR CURRENT DRONE UNIT SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT DEFER TO HIM.
>> PERFECT. >> BUT WE, WE DO NOT SURVEIL WITH O DRONES. THEY ARE MISSION PURPOSE. IF IT'S AN OPERATION FROM, LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE OPERATION DOWN ON NICOLLET. IF WE'RE GOING TO USE DRONES TO MAKE THE
SCENE OR LIKE I SAID GET MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON, OR IF IT IS YEAH WE ARE RESPONDING TO AN ACTIVE 911 CALL. BUT BY NO MEANS ARE WE USE THESE FOR ANY TYPE OF SURVEILLANCE. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU. AS IT RELATES TO KIND OF THE STATE
STATUTE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE USES IN WHICH THESE DRONES CAN KIND OF BE FLOWN, PILOTED, ONE THAT RAISES THINK A LARGER QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR SURVEILLANCE FOR ME IS THE PORTION IN WHICH IT CAN BE USED
FOR KIND OF MONITORING PUBLIC EVENTS. IF IT FITS ONE I'M GOING TO USE LET ME GET THE EXACT LANGUAGE HERE, SO I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF MY MOUTH HERE.
OH, GOODNESS. THE BENEFIT OF COMMITTEE IS WE DON'T HAVE A TIME THAT LIMITS HOW MUCH WE CAN SPEAK AND ASK QUESTIONS. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO -- >> PUBLIC EVENT WHERE THERE IS THE HEIGHTEN HEIGHTENED
RISK TO SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AND BYSTANDERS. >> IN THOSE SITUATIONS IF IT IS NOT SURVEILLING, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR LIKE I GUESS THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE DRONE IN THAT SITUATION. >> SURE. YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET INTEL FROM ONE OF OUR INTEL UNITS HERE AT THE CITY OR AT THE
COUNTY OF A, THEY MIGHT UNCOVER A KNOWN THREAT, SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A THREAT FOR SOMEBODY PLACING A BOMB OR TARGETINGVENTS FOR WHATEVER UNKNOWN PURPOSE. WE
COULD LAUNCH A DRONE TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND THAT INDIVIDUAL, IF WE KNOW LIKE A TIME AND PLACE OF THAT INDIVIDUAL, WE COULD LAUNCH A DRONE TO TRY TO COUNTER THAT. >> OKAY, AND RIGHT THAT SOUNDS LIKE MORE SPECIFIC, MORE SPECIFIC SCENARIO IN WHICH A
DRONE WOULD COME UP BASED ON A CALL OR A SUSPICION OF SOMETHING WITHIN OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? I THINK THE LANGUAGE HERE, RIGHT, THE WAY I AM READING IT IS THESE SHOULD DO FOR KIND OF REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AROUND DRONE, LIKE
RIGHT, JUST I'M HAVING A HARD TIME REALLY CONNECTING LIKE WHAT THE USAGE FOR, RIGHT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IN YOUR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, IT WOULD BE USED AS, AS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A BOMB OR SOMETHING IN THE AREA RATHER THAN JUST SURVEILLANCE. >> ONE EXAMPLE. >> RIGHT, AND I THINK THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE,
I THINK, UNCLEAR ON WHAT THAT ACTUAL USAGE COULD BE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF A PILOT PROGRAM, AND THIS GOES INTO MORE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE ABOUT A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. >> SURE AND MAYBE THE SERGEANT HAS AN EXAMPLE TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PREFER THAT
SUBDIVISION. >> YES, COUNCILMEMBER. SO FOR AN INCENT LIKE THAT, MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD BE USING -- UTILIZING THE DRONES TO BASICALLY CONDUCT A THREAT ASSESSMENT OF THE AREA. AND THAT'S JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, BY RANDOM, LIKE WE'RE JUST DOING IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO. IT'S BECAUSE OF A CONCERN.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I JUST ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THESE STATE STATUTE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE VERY VAGUE. AS YOU BREAK IT DOWN INTO OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY, WE NARROW IT DOWN EVEN MORE. SO FOR THIS INCIDENT HERE, FOR SUBDIVISION NUMBER 3, IN ORDER FOR ME TO EVEN UTILIZE A DRONE, I HAVE TO
NOTIFY MY CHAIN OF COMMAND, THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT FST, SO WE HAVE OUR OWN APPROVA PROCESS AS WELL BEFORE I CAN EVEN UTILIZE THE DRONE FOR SOMETHI LIKE THIS. >> YEAH, AND RIGHT AND I THINK YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OUR POLICY -- IT -- DISTILLS IT DOWN HARDER TO KIND OF GET THE APPROVAL FOR, BUT I THINK THE REASONS FOR THE LAUNCH STILL
STAY THE SAME AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY I THINK HESITATION LIES OF RIGHT IF WE ARE, IF IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE 11 OR I THINK LIKE SEVEN REASONS TO LAUNCH THE DRONE, BUT THEN DEPARTMENT POLICY, MPD DEPARTMENT POLICY IS
JUST ON APPROVAL FOR, RIGHT, IT'S APPROVAL BASED ON ONE OF THE 11. RIGHT AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT GOES FARTHER THAN THE WHAT THE STATE STATUTE DOES HERE. AND SO THAT IS KIND OF YOU KNOW, I WILL TOUCH ON SURVEILLANCE LATER AND
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALSO AS IT MAKES SENSE I THINK HAVING CONVERSATIONS BEFORE THURSDAY WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND THEN, AND ABSOLUTELY BEFORE ANY LEVEL OF A FULL CONTRACT WOULD MOVE FORWARD. I THINK MAYBE TO CLARIFY TOO JUST FOR PUBLIC
PURPOSES, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT RIGHT, AND I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE ON THE CONTRACTING KIND OF LEVEL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT, 75 DAYS, NO COST CONTRACT, WITH NO OBLIGATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LARGER CONTRACT. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S ACCURATE. >> OKAY, WONDERFUL. OTHER
QUESTION HERE I THINK YOU KNOW I HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRUST. AND MISTRUST AND NOT HAVING TRUST. IN MPD AND THOSE THAT WOULD, DEPLOY THE DRONES. AND I THINK THOSE ARE VALID AND FAIR CONCERNS. AND I THINK
RIGHT, WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT THE COMMUNITY TO TRUST MPD OR THOSE THAT USE DRONES TO USE THEM IN A WAY THAT IS WITHIN BOUNDS OF THIS. I THINK THAT IS OUR JOB IS TO CREATE A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, AND CONTROLS, AND A
PROCESSES THAT ALLEVIATE ANY LEVEL OF UNACCOUNTABILITY IN THIS FRAME. CAN YOU KIND OF MAYBE TALK TO IF SKYDIO HAS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS GONE FARTHER THAN WHAT KIND OF THEIR STATE
STATUTES DO? OR IS SKYDIO OPEN TO, I GUESS NOT EVEN OPEN. IT WOULD BE MORE OR LESS ABILITY AND IMPLEMENTATION OF, BUT HOW WOULD A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK GIVEN OUT THROB THE CITY COUNCIL -- THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY OF
MINNEAPOLIS BE USED TO KIND OF IMPLEMENT THESE DRONES? WOULD THAT GET IN THE WAY OF THIS PROCESS OR IS THE STATE STATUTE, THIS IS GOLDEN STANDARD OF WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE KIND OF DRONES ARE? SORRY I CAN
THAT'S NOT A VERY -- I KNOW THAT'S NOT A VERY CLEAR QUESTIO. >> I THINK I C ANSWER THAT, COUNCILMEMBER. SO IN REGARDS TO SKYDIO, THEY FRAMEWORK IS GOING TO BE -- THEIR FRAMEWORK IS
GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT WE SET. SO WHATEVER STANDARDS WE SET, THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE RULES AND REGULAONS BETWEEN EACH STATE WILL BE DIFFERENT. SO WE'LL FOLLOW RULES AND REGULATIONS WITHIN THE STATE POLICY AND FAA
BUT WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TIGHTER DEPENDING ON WHAT EVERYONE WANTS. >> GREAT. YOU KNEW MY QUESTION MORE THAN I DID, SO THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS LIKE CAN WE, CONFINE WHAT THAT IS WITHIN SKYDIO. >> AND WE CAN. >> OKAY, WONDERFUL. SO I GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND
THEN YOU KNOW OTHER I THINK AS YOU ALL SAT THROUGH AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SITTING AND HEARING THE KIND OF TESTIMONY FROM RESIDENTS, I THINK THE OTHER ONE ON THERE IS DATA MANAGEMENT. AND DATA FIDELITY POLICIES. OUTSIDE OF I KNOW I
THINK IT WAS, I THINK WE SEE LIKE SEVEN DAYS HERE IS THAT LIKE A SKYDIO POLICY , A STATE POLICY? DOES ANY OF OUR DATA GO BACK TO SKYDIO OR IS THIS COMPLETELY HOUSED INT INTERNALLY INTO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND MPD? WHERE IS
THAT KIND OF DATA FIDELITY HAPPENING? >>> COUNCILMEMBER, WE CONTROL ALL THE DATA. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS A DRONE WOULD LAUNCH, IT WOULD RECORD WHATEVER DATA THEY HAVE, AND THE MOMENT IT LANDS AND -- IN A DOCK, THE WOULD -- EVERYTHING WOULD UPLOAD AUTOMATICALLY THROUGH THE DOCK
SYSTEM, AND IT GOES STRAIGHT INTO OUR BASICALLY DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH AXON. SO SKYDIO DOESN'T HAVE ANY -- THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY ISN'T BROKEN BECAUSE SKYDIO IS JUST THE PROVIDER OF THE EQUIPMENT. >> OKAY, RIGHT, AND LIKE I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL TOO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN -- I'M
ASSUMING WE ARE, WE WILL BE SIGNING A CONTRACT FOR A PILOT VERSION OF THIS. IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SEND THAT OVER TO US, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CONTRACT IN THE TERMS AS THEY EXIST. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SEND THAT US TO, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, EBUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE NO
DATA RETENTION POLICIES THAT SKYDIO GOVERNS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. >> NO, SIR, FOR 7 DAYS IS MANDATED BY STATE LAW SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THAT. IF YOU WANT TO TIGHTEN IT UP LIKE
MINNETONKA DOES, WE CAN. >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. GOING DOWN MY LIST HERE, AS IT RELATES
TO EVIDENTIARY FLIGHTS, THAT WE IN STATE POLICY OR CITY POLICY WON'T COLLECT OR RETAIN DATA IF IT'S NOT FOR EVIDENTIARY FLIGHTS T. HAS TO BE FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES TO RETAIN THAT DATA. HOW ARE WE DEFINING LIKE WHAT AN EVDEPTHSRY FLIGHT IS? BECAUSE I
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE A DEFINITION ON THAT. >> SO COUNCILMEMBER, WITH THAT TERM, IT'S GOING TO BE CATEGORIZED DEPENDING ON THE PILOT. AND OUR BENCHMARK, OUR STANDARD IS IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF CRINAL LIABILITY OR CIVIL LIABILITY, WE DOCUMENT IT AS EVIDENCE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. >> OKAY. >> BUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT DOESN'T CAPTURE ANYTHING, SO LET'S JUST SAY WEET DISPATCHED TO SOMEONE OVERDOSING, RIGHT? WE GO TO THE INCIDENT, WE DON'T LOCATE ANYONE, AT THAT POINT,
THERE IS NOTHING OF EVIDENTIARY VALUE. WE HAVE CAPTURED NOTHING. THAT EVIDENCE IS CATEGORIZED DURING A CERTAIN CATEGORY, AND THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DELETED. AND THEN WE CAN'T EVEN CONTROL IT, IT'S SET BY OUR DEPARTMENT. >> OKAY. HELPFUL. MORE QUESTIONS HERE. >> AND COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, IF
YOU DON'T MIND, WE'RE GOING TO BE DELAYING THE REST OF THE PRESENTATIONS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF -- WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE AT 4:30, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESENTATIONS, I KNOW STAFF IS STILL HERE, WE DIDN'T EXPECT A
LOT OF FOLKS TO SHOW UP, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PREPARE THE CAPTIONING SO I WANT -- THIS WILL B THE LAST ITEM. >> I C, I CAN, PASS TO OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. >> GO AHEAD, WE HAVE --
>> WE HAVE UNTIL 4:30? I WON'T TAKE ALL TILL 4:30. OTHER KIND OF NOTES HERE, RIGHT? THE ONE THING THAT I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA THAT ST. PAUL USES, AND I SAW DATA POINT THAT SAID I THINK 11% OF THEIR FLIGHTS REMOVE ANY
OFFICER, RIGHT, THEY GO OUT AND ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO DISPATCH AN OFFICER, ANY LEVEL OF EMERGENCY KIND OF RESPONSE TO THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE I THINK FROM D.C. FROM YOUR PRESENTATION THAT IF, EVEN IF WE ARE SENDING OUT A DRONE, WE WILL STILL HAVE
AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE. IS THAT JUST WITHIN THE PILOT FOR KIND OF AGAIN FIDELITY REASONS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LAKED INTO LARGER -- BAKED INTO A LARGER POLICY AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS THE LARGEST BENEFIT OF A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IS ACTUALLY SENDING IT
OUT, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT HEY, ACTUALLY WE DON'T NEED AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO COME, SO JUST CURIOUS OF WHY THAT'S, WHY THAT ISN'T HAPPENING IN THE PILOT. >> COUNCILMEMBER, YES, WE ARE STILL GOING TO SEND A SQUAD CAR TO EVERY CALL. IT'S, WE WANT TO
FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS OF THAT, OF THAT DRONE FLIGHT, THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET THERE WITH THAT DRONE, ASSESS THE SITUATION, BUT WE STILL WANT TO SHOW THAT DIFFERENCE IN TIME, RIGHT? THAT SQUAD STILL HAS TO GO LIKE. WELL, THE CALL THEN SAT IN PENDING FOR ANOTHER 20
MINUTES. >> OKAY. >> THE SQUAD STILL HAD TO GO BUT WE PROVE THAT WHILE WE COULD'VE CLEARED THAT CALL F THE -- >> IT'S KIND OF LIKE METRICS IT SOUNDS LIKE BASING ON A BASELINE. >> JUST TRYING TO PROVE ITS VALUE, RIGHT? >> ALL RIGHT, HELPFUL. HELPFUL TO KNOW. LAST KIND OF QUESTION
HERE THAT I HAVE IS RIGHT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE ARE, THE OTHER PIECE THAT I THINK IS, IS QUITE VALUABLE, THERE WAS A RESIDENT, IT WAS A CONSTITUENT THAT NOTED LIKE THE GOALS IN METRICS OF THIS, AND I THINK THAT IS AN ENTIRELY VALID POINT
OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM. RIGHT AND SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING WITHIN THE PRESENTATION THAT ARE SAYING LIKE HEY IF IT MEETS THESE THINGS, GREAT, GOOD TO GO. IF IT DOES NOT MEET THESE THINGS, IT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE
CONTRACTING WITH IT. HOW ARE YOU ALL I GUESS MEASURING THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING INTERNAL, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT TO US AND IF NOT, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BOTH FOR OUR KIND OF INFORMATION AND THEN FOR PUBLIC'S AS WELL. >> SURE. DO DO YOU WANT TO
ANSWER THE GOALS AND METRICS? >> SURE. SO THE METRICS FOR THIS PROGRAM IS TO BASICALLY COMPARE THE DATA FROM A DRONE'S RESPONSE TO AN ACTUAL OFFICER RESPONSE. THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS THAT AT THE END OF IT, WE CAN COME BACK UP TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THESE ARE THE
METRICS WE UTILIZED AND WE CAN COMPE THE DATA FROM THE DRONE TO AN ACTUAL OFFICER RESPONSE AND SAY OUR DRONES RESPONDED TO THESE MANY CALLS, HOWEVER, WE -- MAY NECESSARILY NOT EVEN NEED AN OFFICER TO RESPOND. WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES AND
BASICALLY MOVE THEM OVER HERE WHERE THEY ARE BETTER UTILIZED FOR THE CITY. >> OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. >> THAT'S ULTIMATELY, LIKE THE BIGGEST METRIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR GOALS. >> IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS A TIGHTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
THOSE METRICS ARE THAT WE CAN SEE FOR SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF, AND HAVING THAT VERSION -- RIGHT I DON'T THINK W NEED IT NOW, BUT WE WOULD NEED IT TO FULLY EVALUA A PROGRAM EXPANSION IF THIS WAS TO GO FORWARD IN A LARGER CONTEXT.
>> YEAH, AND COUNCILMEMBER, I MEAN, I THINK ANOTHER REALLY BIG METRICS ON THIS AND YOU'VE SEEN IT IN THE PRESENTATION IS THAT RESPONSE TIME TO THOSE PRIORITY 1 CALLS, PRIORITY 0 AND 1 CALLS OF GETTING TO THOSE UNDER 2 MINUTES IF SOMEBODY'S HAVING THEIR CRISIS OF THEIR LIFE, AT LEAST WE CAN GET THERE. YEAH,
IT'S A DRONE IN THE SKY, BUT WE CAN DOCUMENT A VEHICLE FLEEING THE AREA, SOMEBODY FLEEING THE AREA, SOMEBODY WITH A GUN, WE CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE, SUSPECTS, VICTIMS, YOU NAME IT, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW OUR PRIORITY 1 CALL TIMES ARE MEDIAN CALL TIME IN THE NORTH SIDE IS SEVEN MINUTES
AND 48 SECONDS. IF WE CAN GET THAT DOWN TO 120 SECONDS OR UNDER, I THINK THAT MRIC SPEAKS FOR ITSELF ASIDE FROM THE TIME IT TAKES A SQUAD TO GET THERE, I THINK THAT'S HUGE. >> PERFECT. THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION AND JUST I THINK --
THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. JUST KIND OF A, WHERE I AM SITTING AND THINKING ABOUT THIS TOO, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF, OF VALID CONCERNS AND HESITATION ABOUT A, A PROGRAM AS SUCH. I THINK IT IS OUR JOB AS BOTH MPD AND THE POLICYMAKERS THAT DO IT
TO ACTIVELY ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, BUILD IN THE SAFEGUARDS FOR THIS, IF IT IS GOING TO BE MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT, I THINK THERE IS A VERSION OF THIS IN MY WORK IN THE REFORM WORLD I THINK THE THING THAT I HAVE SEEN THE MOST IS WE HAVE TO BOTH FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
OFFICER SAFETY, THE HIGHER WE CAN REMOVE OFFICERS FROM SITUATIONS WHERE AN OFFICER CAN RESPOND, PERSONS WITH WEAPONS CALLS, AUTO THEFT CALLS, SHOOTINGS, STABBINGS, SUSPICIOUS
PERSONS, RIGHT, YOU ALL KNOW THOSE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE TENSIONS ARE ELEVATED, AND SO IF WE CAN HAVE A DRONE COME IN THERE, LOWER THE TEMPERATURE, ACTUALLY HAVE AN INFORMED RESPONSE BEFORE AN OFFICER GETS THERE, I THINK THAT IS INVALUABLE AND SO I THINK THERE ARE ACTUALLY LARGE PORTIONS OF
THIS THAT CAN BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR OUR CITY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT AND DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE TO DO THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO FIGURE THAT OUT. >> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
TOPIC, WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, COLLEAGUES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBE 6, 7, AND 8 FOR CONTINUATION TO THE NEXT MEETING ON JULY 22nd. ARE THERE ANY COMPLAINTS? ALL RIGHT, IS THAT GOOD, CLERKS? OKAY. GOOD, NOW
WE CAN CONTINUE, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR COMING TODAY. I DON'T REMEMBER THE COUNT OF SPEAKERS BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHOW -- SHARING THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND THEY TOOK TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES, FROM THEIR WORK, FOR THE COMMUNITIES
TO BE HERE, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT I ALSO HEARD THE CONCERNS ABOUT PRIVACY, SURVEILLANCE, CIVIL LIBERTIES, GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE ETHIC RESPONSIBILITIES THE CITY HASHEN CHOOSINGTS PARTNERS, THOSE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES, AND THEY DESERVE TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR SURE.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH ME ALL OF THIS TIME TO PUT THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER. THIS IS NOT SETHING THAT YOU KNOW, JUST POPPED UP. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE I WAS ELECTED AS
A CITY COUNCILMEMBER BACK IN 2022 SHARING MY PLATFORM WITH FOLKS. YOU GET TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT THEY EXPECT OF A CITY COUNCILMEMBER. AND SOAT IS WHERE THIS CONVERSATION -- THAT IS WHEREHIS CONVERSATION
BEGAN, AND I WANT EVERYONE IN WARD 4 AND MINNEAPOLIS TO UNDERSTAND THAT I TAKE MY ROLE AS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER SERIOUS. I LIKE BEING A CITY COUNCILMEMBER BECAUSE I WANT TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO HELP MY NEIGHBORS. WHEN SOMEONE REACHES OUT TO ME AND SAYS I'M
EXPERIENCING FIVE TO $20,000 A MONTH IN ILLEESM DUMPING, THAT -- ILLEGAL DUMPING, THAT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE TO ME. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I TAKE LIGHTLY. THAT'S SOMETHING I'M WORKING EVERY DAY TO TRY TO MAKE BETTER B BECAU BUSINESSES IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS ARE SUFFERING FROM ILLEGAL DUMPING,
AND SO ARE NEIGHBORS. AND IT'S MY JOB TO MAKE SURE TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THAT. WHEN PEOPLE ARE S UPSET BECAUSE POLICE OFFICE CAN'T GET TO THESE LOW PRIORITY CALLS BECAUSE THE NUMB OF OFFICERS IS GROWING CERTAINLY BUT I APPRECIATE ALL
OF THE WORK GOING INT RECRUITM BUT WE'RE NOT THERE, AND IT'S BECOMING EMBARRASSING FOR ME TO KEEP USING THAT AS A REASON WHY OFFICERS CAN'T SHOW UP TO CALLS. IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFCERS. PEOPLE GET TIRED OF
HEARING IT AND I GET TIRED OF SAYING IT. WE HAVE TO BE COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS -- I HAVE TO BE COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS AS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER FOR PEOPLE. SO WHEN I HEARD ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FIRST RESPONDER DRONE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE LOW PRIORITY CALLS, FOR THINGS LIKE STOLEN
CARS OR OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS ON LOWRY AND PENN AVENUE, THAT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS THAT PEOPLE JUST THIS MORNING I WOKE UP TO A TEXT MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE SAYING SHOULD I CALL ALL THE NEWS CHANNELS, YOU, THE MAYOR, AND
ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES BECAUSE WE NEED HELP ON LOWRY AND LOGAN. WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? LIKE THAT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD TO ME AS A PERSON. I WANT TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE. SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE LOOKINGOR IDEAS AND WAYS TO HELP. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS PILOT IS.
THIS IS NOT A LONG-TERM COMMMENT. I'VE ACTUALLY ASKED ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES AND MPD NOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT BECAUSE I THINK THE PILOT IS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. LIKE I WANT TO USE THIS 75 DAYS TO SEE IF THERE ARG
TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWING IF IT CAN HELP OR NOT. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS A PILOT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE HELP AN THE ROURCES THAT FOLKS NEED IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND I WILL SAY OF COURSE I KNEW TT THERE WERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP THAT DID NOT LIKE
THIS IDEA, AND I WELCOME THAT. I'M NOT A PERSON THAT NEEDS TO ONLY TALK TO PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE ME. DID I KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A HARD DECISION FOR ME TO BE THE COUNCILMEMBER TO SAY I'M GOING TO BRING THIS BEFORE THE CAN COUNCIL? ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN I TOOK THE OATH OF OFFICE THAT
COMMITMENT WAS TOO WHATEVER I COULD TO MAKE THE LIVES OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I SERVE BETTER. AND THESE ARE LIVEABILITY ISSUES, THESE ARE SAFETY ISSUES, AND I'M GOING TO TRY WITH EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR PEOPLE. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONEHO CAME. I
APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO LISTEN. AND I APPRECIATE T FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING WITH ME, AND WANT TO HELP. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PRESENTATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AND I THINK WITHIN 48 HOURS, AN OLDER GENTLEMAN CAME UP MISSING. IN MY WARD. AND FOLKS WERE LOOKING FOR HIM,
AND THE DRONE THAT WE HAVE NOW WAS DEPLOYED AND I'LL LET YOU TWO SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE DRONES THAT ARE BEING USED NOW, BUT THIS PROGRAM COULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SOF ONE OF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE INCIDENT THAT WE HAD A COUPLE
DAYS AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION, THAT'D BE GREAT. >>> YEAH, SO REGARDING THE INCIDENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER VETAW WAS REFERENCING, IT WAS REGARDING A MISSING PERSON IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS THIS GENTLEMAN HERE
HAD WANDERED AWAY FROM HOME, GOT LOST, AND NO ONE KNEW WHERE HE WAS. NO ONE COULD SPH FIND HIM. HE HAD BEEN MISSING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE CALL, ONE OF MY DRONE OPERATORS WENT OUT THERE, THEY FLEW OUT A DRONE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED DRONE PROGRAM. THIS DFR PROGRAM IS JUST, IT'S JUST
GOING TO BE AN EXPANSION OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. I IT COMES TO FRUITION. BUT A DRONE OPERATOR WAS ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND HE FLEW AROUND THE AREA WHERE HE WAS TOLD THAT THIS MALE GENTLAN MAY HAVE BEEN. WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME HE
ACTUALLY LOCATED THIS GENTLEMAN BY A CREEK. HE WAS EXTREMELY VULNERABLE. HE NEEDED HELP. AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, IF THE DRONES DIDN'T FIND THIS GENTLEMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY. SO THE DRONES WERE ABLE TO LOCATE HIM IN THE CREEK BED, SUCCESSFULLY
LOCATED HIM, RELAY THIS INFORMATION TO BOOTS ON THE GROUND OFFICERS WHO WERE ON THE GROUND, IN RELATIONSHIP FIRE PERSONNEL AND THEY WERE ABLE TO RESCUE THIS GENTLEMAN FROM THE CREEK BED AND ULTIMATELY SAVED HIS LIFE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I DO LOVE
THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WAS ABLE TO SAVE THIS MAN'S LIFE. BUT I BELIEVE THIS PILOT PROGRAM ULD'VE APPROACHED THAT SITUATION A LITTLE DIFFERENT. A 911 CALL WOULD'VE CAME IN. THE DRONE COULD'VE BEEN DEPLOYED TO THE AREA WITHIN A MINUTE AND A HALF BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A
FOURTH PRECINCT PILOT, AND IT CAN GET -- TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I HAVE HAD A DEMONSTRATION, SO TO MY UNDSTANDING, IT COULD BE THERE WITHIN A MINUTE AND A HALF, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN AN OFFICER HAVING TO DRIVE TO THE PLACE IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT AN OFFICER AVAILABLE TO DRIVE TO THE PLACE IN THE FOURTH
PRECINCT, AND THEN LAUNCHING THE DRONE FROM THERE. SO I -- THANK YOU OFFICER PLUA FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT, AND SAVING THAT MAN'S LIFE. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. SOME OF THE OTHER LIVEABILITY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP AROUND THIS ARE
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH, WITH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FRUSTRATION FROM FOLKS WHO ARE FIXING CARS AND EQUIPMENT, ON THE STREETS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, AND THE STORMWATER DRAINS HAVE OIL IN IT AND CHEMICALS AND THINGS BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS ON THE STREET, A REGULAR COMPLAINT FOR ALMOST DAILY SEONE IS CALLING IN AND FRUSTRATED WITH CHEMICALS AND OILS IN THE STORM DRAINS BECAUSE OF MECHANICS ON
THEIR BLOCK, EXCESS TRAFFIC, NOISE, LIKE, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT COULD BE 0 AND 1 CALLS THAT OFFICERS RESPOND TO WITH THE DRONE. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SEE IF THIS, IF THIS PILOT COULD
HELP WITH THOSE THINGS. I'M -- MY EXPECTATIONN THIS IS NOT TO CHANGE ANYTHING OR TO GET RID OF OFFICERS OR TO LIKE YOU KNOW LIKE STOP US FROM RESPONDING IN WAYS WE DO, BUT IT REALLY IS TO
HELP PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT CAN PROBABLY ENHANCE T WAY WE INTERACT WITH PEOPLE AND NOT MAKE EVERYTHING A POLICE INTERACTION. I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A POLICE INTERACTION, SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE BY THE DRONE, WHEN WE GET THERE. WE'RE NOT THERE YET BUT SOME OF THESE
THINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE ABOUT A POLICE COMING AND HAVING AN INTERACTION WITH SOMEONE. AND SO MY GOAL IS TO IF CREASE LIVEABILITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE AS SOMETHING -- AS
A TOOL TT WE COULD POTENTIALLYUN ANYTHING, FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD USE THIS SERVICE IN THE FUTURE. SO I THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES STILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND SO DO RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS AS YOU CAN SEE THAT
PEOPLE CAME AND SPOKE NOT ONLY FROM NORTH MINNEAPOLIS BUT FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS A FREE COMPLETELY FREE PROGRAM THAT IS ONLY GOING TO BE IN THE FOUH PRECINCT. THIS IS NOT SURVEILLANCE. THIS IS A 911
DISPATCH DRONE CALL SOMEONE HAS TO CALL IN FOR THE DRONE TO BE DISPATCHED, AND THE DASHBOARD WILL BE SET UP WHERE PEOPLE CAN TRACK HOW THE DRONE WAS BEING USED AND WHAT FOR DURING TS SERVICE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. >>> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TT GO BEYOND THE MINUTE AND A HALF WE HAVE BEFORE WEAVE TO END, SO PLEASE BE AVAILABLE AT FULL COUNCIL FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO
EXPLAIN MY VOTE TODAY TO FOLKS WHO ARE HERE JUST SO BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO -- SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY AND ASK THE QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK. I'M GOING TO BE VOTING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION OF FULL COUNCIL. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS AT ALL. I
WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY MORE AND ASK MORE IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS FINALLY IN THE CAN YOU BELIEVE MEETING AND NOT -- IN THE COUNCIL MEETING AND NOT JUST -- I SUSPECT IF WE VOTED, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT WE REALLY FELT ABOUT THIS, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE 2-2, WHICH MEANS IT
WOULD GO TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING WHICH IS NOT GOOD PRACTICE. SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS FINALLY BY SENDING IT FORWARD AND HAVING THE FULL COUNCIL DEAL WITH IT. WITH THE REMAINING 30 SECONDS, I THINK I'LL LET YOU CLOSE THE MEETING. >> COOL. I'LL BE QUICK WITH MY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO KNOW IF,
AND THIS CAN BE THROUGH MEMO, IF THE CITY HAS DONE ANY DUE DILIGENCE ON SKYDIO'S FEDERAL CONTRACTS, AND IF SKYDIO CURRENTLY SELLS DRONES OR RELATED SERVICES TO I.C.E. OR ANY OTHER DHS COMPONENTS. IF THERE ARE ANY MECHANISMS IN
PLACE TO PREVENT THEM FROM USING OUR DATA FOR I.C.E.. I WANT TO KNOW IF STAFF KNOWS THAT IN CHULLA VISTA THEY SPENT OVER $1 MILLION IN LEGAL FEES FIGHTING TO -- DRONE FOOTAGE AND IF MPD IS APPLYING TO DO THE SAME THING. THERE WERE FLIGHT
RECORDS RELEASED THAT AT LEAST 31 TIMES IT WAS USED TO SURVEIL AN ICE RR OUT PROTEST IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES WHICH SAW THOUSANDS OF PEACE FP PROTESTERS MARCH AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OCCUPATION IN MIN, AND IF MPD WOULD DO
THE SE THING HERE. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS I CAN FOLLOW UP IN EMAIL. I WISH I COULD ASK THE QUESTIONS TOD, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT FULL COUNCIL, SO WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, ON THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ABSTENTIONS?
ALL RIGHT, THE FINAL VOTE WILL HAPPEN AT FULL COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. COLLEAGUES, WITH THAT, I BELIEV WE'VE DISPENSED WITH ALL OF OUR ITEMS, AND SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US, I WOULD DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.