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Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=T-oJsfVZKVc

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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: T-oJsfVZKVc):
- 00:00:47: Meeting Call to Order and Accessibility Reminder
- 00:01:35: Roll Call, Quorum Verification, Speaker Management System
- 00:02:08: Review and Description of Consent Agenda Items
- 00:04:25: Police Chief Nomination and Semiannual Settlement Agreement Report
- 00:06:07: Councilmember Wonsley comments on Item #1- Police Training
- 00:07:46: Councilmember Whiting requests discussion of Item #1, Commander Brown Provides Background
- 00:11:59: Approval of Consent Agenda, Introduce Animal Care and Control Program
- 00:12:33: Sponsor a Kennel Program Presentation by Tony Schendel
- 00:15:18: Councilmembers' Support and Suggestions for Kennel Program
- 00:18:57: Approval of Kennel Program; Legislative Directive on Police/Federal Collaboration
- 00:20:56: Councilmember Wonsley on Federal Agents and Immigration Raids
- 00:23:42: Councilmember Stevenson on Transparency Measures for Officers
- 00:24:46: Councilmember Wonsley Follow-up and Data Sharing Concerns
- 00:26:11: Next Steps for Police/Federal Collaboration Directive Discussion
- 00:27:19: Legislative Directive Approval, Introduce Moturi Shooting Report
- 00:27:51: Approve Legislative Directive Regarding Moturi-Lussier Case
- 00:29:13: Rental License Ordinance Implementation Report Presentation
- 00:37:52: Councilmember Wonsley Supports Quality Housing Standards
- 00:40:16: Councilmember Whiting Questions about Good Cause Program
- 00:42:12: File Rental License Report, Suspend Rules for Mr. Moturi
- 00:43:02: Public Comment - Davis Moturi - Experience with MPD
- 00:56:13: Councilmembers Respond to Mr. Moturi's Comments
- 01:03:14: Receive Response on Drones as First Responders
- 01:03:46: Drones as First Responders Presentation
- 01:12:26: Benefits of Drone use in the 9-1-1 Center
- 01:16:20: State Compliance and State Law, 7-day Data Deletion
- 01:18:00: Fire Department- Potential for Saving Lives
- 01:21:36: Inspection Services- Vacant Buildings and Illegal Dumping
- 01:23:51: Traffic Control- Special Events and Illegal Snow Dumping
- 01:27:01: FAA, BCA, MDHR Oversight Transparency Public Dashboards
- 01:29:51: DFR Success Examples in US Cities
- 01:32:08: Councilmember Vetaw - Longtime Program Coming and Q&A Begins
- 01:33:14: Council President Payne, Ben Jordan, Counterterrorism
- 01:38:08: Councilmember Wonsley's Concerns- cost, Occupancy, 3-1-1 Ticketing
- 01:43:14: City Attorney- Public Hearing Required
- 01:43:30: Vice Chair Stevenson- Useful/Big Brother, Response Time/Contact
- 01:47:54: Whiting- Suspicious Persons and State Use, Analytics/Board
- 01:55:34: Concerns from Veta, Compliace from ACLU, Police Times
- 02:07:54: Rainville - Have there been Complaints in Duluth?
- 02:11:45: Meeting Adjourned


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>> WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE FOR MAY 13, 2026.  I'M JASON CHAVEZ, THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC THAT THESE

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MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.  THESE BROADCASTS INCLUDE REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.  THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY

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CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST.  WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF T THEIR COMMENTS.ATS T AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO VERIFY A PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. >> PRESENT. >> RAINVILLE IS ABSENT.  VETAW. >> PRESENT. >> WHITING. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ. >> PRESENT. >> THAT IS SIX MEMBERS PRESENT. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT -- [OFF MIC] LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE

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HAVE QUORUM AND WE'LL BE JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE SHORTLY.  I'LL REMIND M COEAGUES THAT WE'LL BE USING SPEAKER MANAGEMENT TODAY, SO IF WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IT WORKS FOR ALL OF YOU.  OTHERWISE, WE WILL GO TO BADGES.  GOOD.  ALL RIGHT. OUR AGENDA IS IN FRONT OF US AND

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WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA.  ITEM NUMBER 1 AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH FOREST LAKES SPORT'S CLUB FOR POLICE IN SERVICE TRAININGS AND OUTDOOR RANGE FACILITY USE. STAFF DID PROVIDE A MEMO WITH BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE CONTRACT AND IMAGES OF THE SITE WHICH HAS BEEN INCLUDED ON THE LIMS FILE.  ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A

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CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH AGE AND ASSOCIATES INC. AND DBR INC. THERE INTERPRETING TRANSLATION SERVICES.  ITEM NUMBER 3 APRIEWBZ A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH CERTIFYING LANGUAGE INTERNATIONAL LLC FOR REMOTE INTERPRETING SERVICES.  ITEM

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NUMBER 4 AUTHORIZES SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR BOMB DETECTION EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING.  ITEM NUMBER 5 AND 6 ACCEPTS GRANTS FROM THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMAL AND SPAY

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NEUTER TRAINING CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE.  ITEM NUMBER 7 APPROVES GIFT ACCEPTANCE FOR SITE VISIT TO THE CHATEAU HEALTH AND WELLNESS RECOVERY CENTER. ITEM NUMBER 8 APRIEW

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APPROVES GIFT ACCEPTANCE.  ITEM NEB GIFT ACCEPTANCE OF PORTABLE RADIO KITS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.  ITEM NUMBER 11 AUTHORIZES A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR PROVISION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCY SERVICE.  I WILL NOTE THAT DUE TO AN ERROR,

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STAFF HAVE REQUESTED THIS ITEM NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT TO BE UPDATED TO $250,000.  ITEM 12 APPROVES REIN-STATEMENT OF THE RENTAL DWELLING LICENSE FOR 4010 DuPONT AVENUE NORTH.  ITEM NUMBER 13 REFERS TO STAFF THE

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SUBJECT MATTER OF AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE ORDINANCE.  ITEM 14 AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH THE MINNEAPOLIS DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.  ITEM 15 SETS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 3 --

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JUNE 3rd TO CONSIDER MAYOR'S NOMINATION FOR BRIAN OCARE R HARRAH TO THE APPOINTED POSITION OF POLICE CHIEF FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 2030. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  AS YOU ALL KNOW WE RECEIVED THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION OF BRIAN O'HARA FOR POLICE CHIEF LAST THURSDAY AT A COUNCIL MEETING

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F.  IT WAS A LATE BREAKING LETTER THE EVENING BEFORE THE MEETING.  PER OUR STANDARD PROCESS, THAT GETS REFERRED TO THE SUBJECT MATTER COMMITTEE. THAT IS THIS COMMITTEE TODAY. FOR SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA FOR JUNE 3rd FOR A FINAL

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DETERMINATION ON JUNE 11th. I'M WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE NEXT SEMIANNUAL ELEFA REPORT FOR THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTATION WHERE THERE WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE INFORMATION IN THAT REPORT AS IT RELATES TO

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HOW WE'RE DOING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT FOR US AS DECISION MAKERS, BUT ALMOST MORE IMPORTANTLY THE PUBLIC, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE CONTENTS OF THAT REPORT BEFORE WE DO TAKE THAT FINAL DETERMINATION OF A

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VOTE.  AT THIS TIME WE DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC DATE THAT WE ARE, SHOULD GET THAT REPORT.  IT COULD BE POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD COME AS EARLY THE BEGINNING OF JUNE AND BE HERE IN TIME FOR THAT -- EVEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FINAL VOTE, OR WE MAY LEARN THAT IT'S GOING TO COME

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LATER IN THE MONTH.  I'M TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN, AND SO AS WE SET THE DATE FOR OUR STANDARD TIMELINE FOR JUNE 3rd FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, ONCE WE GET TO JUNE 3rd AND WE KNOW MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHEN THAT REPORT MIGHT COME, I MAY WANT TO HOLD

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THAT NOMINATION UNTIL WE GET THAT REPORT.  BUT AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THAT UPDATE AND THE PUBLIC THAT UPDATE.  SO. >> COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  I

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WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 1.  WHICH THE CONTRACT WITH FOREST LAKES SPORTSMEN CLUB WITH POLICE TRAININGS AND OUTDOOR RANGE FACILITY USE.  I'M EXCITED TO SEE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE TYPE OF CONTRACTS COME FORWARD FOR US TO

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CONSIDER AND APPROVE.  LARGELY BECAUSE IT AFFIRMS WHAT I KNOW A NUMBER OF US COUNCILMEMBERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SAYING, WHICH IS WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD $40 MILLION TO $80 MILLION BUILDING IN ORDER FOR OUR MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THE TRAINING SPACES THAT

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THEY NEED TO EXECUTE THEIR JOBS. MPD DOES CURRENTLY PRACTICE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN WARD 4 THAT HAS BEEN OF CONSTANT CONVERSATION OF WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT RELOCATION AS PART OF THAT, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SHARED INTEREST IN RELOCATING IT TO A MORE

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APPROPRIATE LOCATION.  BUT THIS CONTRACT DEMONSTRATES THAT WE CAN RENT A GUN RANGE AND MEET THAT NEED FOR ABOUT $100,000 PER YEAR, WHICH IS TRULY A TINY FRACTION OF THE ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING FOR THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED COP CITY.  SO I'M REALLY EXCITED

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TO SEE MORE CONTRACTS LIKE THIS COME FORWARD.  THAT'S MEETING THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TRAINING NEEDS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THAT LARGE COP CITY PROJECT. AND TO BE ABLE TO SEE THESE TYPE OF CONTRACTS IDEALLY COME FORWARD MORE FREQUENTLY, SO THAT

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WE CAN TRULY CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO THAT.  SO YEAH.  JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS. >> COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. JUST WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD PULL 1 FOR DISCUSSION. >> YEP.  THANK YOU.  WE CAN PULL THE ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION.  DO

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YOU WANT A SEPARATE VOTE ON THAT? >>> NO. >> THEN YOU CAN JUST MAKE YOUR COMMENTS LIKE COUNCILMEMBER -- >> AM I ABLE TO ASK SOMEONE TO COME UP? >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. >> -- COMMANDER, ARE YOU ABLE TO COME CHAT WITH US A LITTLE BIT. >> NOT TOO MANY TOUGH QUESTIONS

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FOR YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.  COUNCIL CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER, I'M COMMANDER KRIS BROWN FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I RUN THE TRAINING DIVISION. >> YEAH, PERFECT, THANK YOU, COMMANDER AND JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS HERE.  IT'S NOT NESSARILY EVEN RELATED TO THIS

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ITEM SPECIFICALLY BUT AS KIND OF OUR TRAINING AROUND FIREARMS TRAINING.  LIKE I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF

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BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HEAR COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY'S COMMENTS AS WELL, IF YOU CAN KIND OF JUST TOUCH BASE ON THE REQUIRED INDIVIDUAL OFFICER YEARLY, BIYEARLY, WHATEVER THE TRAINING IS THAT IS NEEDED FOR OUR FIREARMS, IF YOU COULD KIND OF JUST GIVE US A BACKGROUND OF WHAT THAT TRAINING ENTAILS. >> SURE.  IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE OVERALL WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES HAND GUN AND

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AS WELL AS RIFLE AND OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS WHICH I CAN'T SPEAK TO, BUT WHAT WE USE TRAINING RELATED TO FIREARMS.  SO RELATED TO JUST IN GENERAL, WE DO HAND GUN QUALIFICATIONS ONCE A YEAR.

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THAT USUALLY COMPRISES OF ABOUT IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF BUT IT IS ONLY -- WE ONLY PULL THE OFFICERS OFF THE STREET FOR MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME AS POSSIBLE.  IT'S MORE OF A, AN EXAM.  WE EXAMINE THEIR FIREARMS, THEIR EIPMENT THAT IS SECURING THE FIREARMS.  WE

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ALSO GO OVER MALFUNCTIONS AND SUCH LIKE THAT SO IT'S, BUT IT IS NOT, WE DON'T REALLY CONSIDER IT A TRAINING.  WE CONSIDER IT THAT AN ASSESSMENT OR THEIR QUALIFICATIONS TO MEET THE STATE STANDARDS.  SO THAT IS A BRIEF TRAINING BUT IT DOES REQUIRE US

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TO HAVE ABOUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 20 TRAINING SESSIONS OFFERED UP FOR THAT.  AND THEN EACH OFFICER THAT IS AUTHORIZED TO CARRY A PATROL RIFLE WOULD GO TO A PATROL RIFLE SCHOOL AND THE

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PATROL RIFLE SCHOOL SO HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN HELD OFF SITE BECAUSE TOO MANY, TOO MANY ROUNDS WITH PATROL RIFLE IN SMALL AREA IS NOT GOOD FOR THE COST OF THE CITY FOR THEIR GOING THROUGH THE CLEANING AND THE

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PROCESSING OF THE SPENT ROUNDS THAT GO INTO THE, INTO THAT AREA.  THAT RANGE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED MOSTLY FOR HAND GUN AND SO IT WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE TO DO IT PLUS WE DO, WE NEED A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN USE THE, THE

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RIFLES, YOU KNOW AND LEARN THE TACTICS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SAFELY USING AND CARRYING THOSE WEAPONS.  SO THAT'S THE GENERAL OFFICER THAT THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT THEY OFTEN CARRY. WE DO USE THE RANGE STAFF STILL

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ALSO DOES AND IS VERY SIMILAR TO, HAND GUN QUALIFYING WITH OTHER WEAPONS IS WE HAVE LESS THAN LETHAL 40-MILLIMETER AS WELL AS TRYING TO THINK OTHE OTHER THINGS THAT GENERALLY DO WITH IT.  BUT OFFICERS THAT DO

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GO THROUGH THE, BE ABLE TO CARRY THE PATROL RIFLE ARE REQUIRED TO DO ANNUAL RECERTIFICATIONS FOR THAT SO THAT WE DO USE -- UTILIZE FACILITIES FOR THAT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, COMMANDER.  AND I THINK KIND OF JUST TO THE LAST KIND OF QUESTION.  IS THERE ANY

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TRAININGS RELATED TO LIKE THE POST-CERTIFICATION WHEN IT COMES TO OR IS THAT KIND OF THIS ONCE A YEAR HAN TRAINING TO KEEP THAT POST-LICENSE.  I'M NOT SURE. >> YEAH, WE DO, ANY, ANY FIREARMS THAT YOU CARRY, WHETHER IT'S PATROL RIFLE OR A HAND GUN, IS POST-CERTIFIED REQUIREMENT.

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>> CAY. >> THAT YOU GO THROUGH ANNUAL TRAINING. >> ALL RIGHT.  THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE.  THANK YOU, COMMANDER. APPRECIATE IT. >> WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS INCLUDING THE MINUTE AGREEMENT AMOUNT FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 AND SEEING THAT THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION,

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ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.  THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.  ANY ABSTENTIONS?  THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO FULL COUNCIL.  OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM TODAY

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REGARDING IS REGARDING A SPONSOR A KENNEL PROGRAM FOR THE ANIMAL CARE AND CUTR CONTROL. WELCOME DIRECTOR SCHE SCHENDEL.

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>> ALL RIGHT.  GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MY NAME'S TONY SCHENDEL I THE DIRECTOR OF MINNEAPOLIS ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL.  HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A NEW PROGRAM THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION BY MACC PAC WHO IS A 501(c)3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND I'LL TALK A

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LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND HOW EXCITED WE ARE TO INTRODUCE IT.  SO THIS PROGRAM SPONSOR A KENNEL PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE BY OTHER BOTH MUNICIPALITIES AND PRIVATE SHELTERS ACROSS THE NATION.  AND WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH THIS

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PROGRAM TO ALLOW BUSINESSES AND OTHER RESIDENTS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO MAKE DONATIONS TO MACC PAC WHO THEN IN TURP WOULD DONATE THE MONEY TO ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL, AND THAT WOULD ALL BE DONE THROUGH QUARTERLY

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REPORTING NO DIFFERENTLY THAN WE REPORT OUR DONATIONS NOW QUARTERLY TO COUNCIL BUT THAT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY HELP THE ANIMALS IN OUR CARE BY PROVIDING ENRICHMENT DUE TO RISING COSTS AND INCREASING CARE TO THE ANIMALS IN OUR FACILITY.  SO DONORS COULD SPONSOR A KENNEL OR

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A CAT CONDO FOR A ONE-YEAR PROCPERIOD.  THEY WOULD HAVE A PERSONALIZED PLAQUE THAT WOULD BE POSTED ON THE KENNELS INROSIN RECOGNITION OF THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH US. THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLE PHOTOS OF OTHER SHELTERS DOING IT IN THE NATION.  THE COMMUNITY

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IMPACT, THESE DONORS WILL HELP OFFSET THE GROWING CARE COSTS AND PROVIDE ESSENTIAL CARE TO THE ANIMALS WHICH INCLUDES VETERINARY SERVICES, TOYS FOR ENRICHMENT, AND THEN SOME OTHER SUPPLIES THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY COVERED BY OUR ANNUAL OPERATING

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BUDGET.  THIS IS INSTRUMENTAL TO HELP FURTHER OUR SUCCESS AS WE WORK TOWARDS HELPING AS MANY ANIMALS AS WE CAN AND CONTINUE ACHIEVING OUR NO KILL STATUS. THIS PROGRAM WON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY AND

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IN FACT WON'T USE ANY CITY RESOURCES AS A PART OF THE PROGRAM.  THIS IS A COMMUNITY CENTRIC APPROACH THAT WILL BOLSTER COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE GROWING NUMBER OF ANIMALS IN OUR NEED.  MACC PACK OUR 501(c)3 PARTNER WOULD LEAD

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THIS EFFORT ALL THE WAY FROM START TO FINISH.  THEY WOULD ACCEPT THE DONATIONS, HANG THE SIGNAGE, FOLLOW UP WITH THE DONOR TO SHARE A SUCCESS STORY OF AN ANIMAL THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED OUT OF THAT KENNEL THEY'RE SPONSORING AND HELP FOUND ITS NEW FOREVER HOME.  THEREFORE, NO IMPACT TO THE CITY FINANCIALLY

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OR RESOURCES, LESSENING THE TAXPAYER BURDEN.  AND WITH THAT THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

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>> DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR WORKING FAIRLY QUICKLY ON THIS. SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY SAVE MANY OF OF OUR ANIMALS AND YOU KNOW, THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITYO I JUST WCITY, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THATTISM I WILL PASS IT TO VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> THANK YOU.  I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.  I'M

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REALLY GLAD YOU'RE DOING THIS. THIS IS AWESOME.  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.  I'M EXCITED TO SEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOUR EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU,OUNCILMEMBER. >> COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  I

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WANTED TO SAY ALSO THIS IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY, AND F NONPROFIT ORGANI ORGANIZATIONS AND IS CERTAINLY GOING TO HELP US NOT ONLY THE ANIMALS WE HAVE BUT FUTURE ANIMALS THAT COME TO THE SHELTER. I APPRECIATE SUPPORTING THIS.  I

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CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS BECAUSE IT FEELS REALLY -- IT FEELS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD FOR NOT ONLY FOR THE STAFF BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HELP IN THIS TYPE OF WAY, SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS THINKING OUTSIDES OF THE BOX. WHEN YOU'RE A GOOD PARTNER,

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PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU, SO THANKS TO YOU AND YOU ARE TEAM FOR FOR -- YOUR TEAM FOR BEING GOOD PARTNERS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE ANIMALS IN THE KENNELS. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAVEZ.  ALSO JUST WANT TO ECHO THE GRATITUDE FOR YOU ALL'S LEADERSHIP IN HELPING

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US FIND A WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY INTO SUPPORTING OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, SUPPORTING THE ANIMALS.  AS YOU MENTIONED, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF A SHOE STRING BUDGET AS THE GROWING NEEDS ARE, YOU KNOW,

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RISING IN REGARDS OF HOW YOU'RE RECEIVING INCREASED NUMBER OF ANIMALS AS YOU MENTIONED STILL TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE NO-KILL STATUS.  I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ENTERTAINING NEXT STEPS AROUND PRIORITIES, BUT I AT LEAST WANT TO NAME I KNOW THIS IS ONE PIECE OF MANY NEEDS

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THAT OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY HAS, AND FOR ME I KNOW ON OUR CAPITAL, IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM A BIG PIECE TOO IS MAKINGURE YOU ALL CAN HAVE A NEW HOME TO ACCOMMODATE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, INCREASED NUMBERS OF ANIMALS BUT ALSO HAVING A 21st CENTURY

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FACILITY SPACE TO CARRY OUT THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE DOING AT A VERY HIGH QUALITY LEVEL, AND I WILL NAME THAT WILL BE A PRIORITY OF MINE, SO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THAT FUNDING STREAM.  VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO THE FIRST ITEM TOO AROUND MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT

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DIVERTING FUNDS FOR CRITICAL SERVICES LIKE THIS INTO PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN FIND ALTERNATIVES TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AS WELL, PARTICULARLY RELAT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.  SO I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD AS AGAIN YOU ALL BEING INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY CENTERED AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CARE FOR OUR ANIMALS.  AND MAYBE WE CAN

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HAVE A RESOLUTION, CAN WE BRING, HAVE SOME PETS, SO YOU KNOW LET ME STOP. [LAUGHTER] ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION WITH SOME PETS AT HAND. [LAUGHTER] AS WELL FOR SOME COUNCIL THERAPY OR PET THERAPY.  THANK YOU. COUNCIL PET THERAPY. [LAUGHTER]

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>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. >> YEAH, GO OVER THERE TO PRESENT THE RESOLUTION, AND HOLD A CAT.  THERE WE GO. >> GO OVER THERE ON A TUESDAY. YOU CAN PET WHATEVER YOU WANT TO. >> THAT'S RIGHT.  BUT THE POINT TO DO IT AS A GROUP FOR THE

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THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. >> THANK YOU.  I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AND SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.  THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.  ANY ABSTENTIONS?  THAT

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ITEM CARRIES.  I'LL ALSO ACNOMWE'VE BEEN JOIN -- ACKNOWLEDGE WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE WERE YOU ABLE TO VOTE ON THE OTHER ITEMS? >> YEAH, I DID VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. >> OKAY, PERFECT, GREAT, JUST MAKING SURE.  ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 17.  IT'S APPROVING A

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LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THE HOMELAND SECURITY TASK FORCE. THIS IS AN ITEM BEING BROUGHT BY MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER -- VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE.  OPEN RECORD REQUEST MADE BY BOTH -- CITIZEN

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JOURNALISTS REVEALED IPLATE APRIL 2026 THAT THE MPD PARTICIPATED ON A HOMELAND SECURITY TASK FORCE.  THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT THE FBI CAN PAY OVERTIME COSTS FOR OFFICER WHOSE WORK ON THE DETECTION, INVESTIGATION, AND PROSECUTION OF CRIMES AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.  THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT DEFINE WHAT CONSTITUTE CRIMES AGAINST THE

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UNITED STATES, AS INTERPRETED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.  THIS DIRECTIVE IS INQUIRING IN INTO THIS TASK FORCE AND ANY OTHER AGREEMENT WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND HAS RAISED A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE PUBLIC, AND IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT TO GET

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MORE INFORMATION ON THESE REIMBURSEMENTS AND THE WORK THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE.  ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS WHAT PROTOCOLS DO WE HAVE IN PLACE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WHEN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT GETS DEPUTIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT RULES THEY HAVE

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TO FOLLOW, WHO IS ENFORCING OUR CITY'S SEPARATION LAWS REGARDLESS.  I THINK I HEAR THE CONCERNS FROM THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE PRESENT THAT WHEN YOU DEPUTIZE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENTWITE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE STRONG PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T A VIATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.  SO I

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AT LEAST WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND HOPING WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION JUST SO THE PUBLIC CAN BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT THESE AGREEMENTS ARE AND IF WE SEE A NEED TO PUSH FOR CHANGES THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED.  NEXT UP I'LL PASS IT TO COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

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>> YEAH, THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE AUTHORS OF THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AND FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.  I TNK, YOU KNOW, SINCE TRUMP'S SECOND PRESIDENTIAL TENURE STARTED,

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RESIDENTS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WANT TO SEE NO COLLABORATION WHATSOEVER OR COORDINATION WHATSOEVER HAPPEN BETWEEN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FEDERAL AGENTS AS IT PERTAINS TO DETAINING, KID NAPPING, TERRORIZING NOT ONLY

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OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS BUT AS WE'VE KNOWN, OUR, THE TARGETING OF OUR IMMIGRATION NEIGHBORS THEN BECOMES A CATCH-ALL FOR TEORIZING NONIMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS AS SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE RECENT FEDERAL OCCUPATION.  SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING

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THIS FORWARD SO WE CAN GET FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE L LOOPHOLES WE'RE OVERLOOKING AS WE SAW WITH OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE THAT DOES ALLOW FOR EITHER THAT PERCEIVED COLLABORATION THROUGH

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MPD CARRYING OUT CROWD CONTROL, ALL THE THINGS THAT SIGNALS TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT THERE IS A SENSE OF COLLABORATION, AND I THINK PARTICULARLY GETTING SOME FOLLOW-UP ON WT HAPPENED O ON JUNE 3rd, 2025, WHERE WE

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SAW FEDERAL AGENTS SWARM OUR IMMIGRANT BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORS ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON.  DURING WHAT WAS TOLD TO US IS A NONIMMIGRATION RAID BUT WE THEN FOUND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT OF

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HOMELAND SECURITY WAS INVOLVED. I.C.E. WAS INVOLVED AND IN MANY WAYS THAT JUNE 3rd OPERATION WAS USED AS A TESTING GROUND FOR WHAT THEY WOULD THEN CARRY OUT THROUGHOUT THE FEDERAL OCCUPATION THAT STARTED IN DECEMBER.  AND WHAT WOULD WE AS A CITY ALLOW, WHAT OUR STATE LEADERS WOULD ALLOW, IF WE DID

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NOT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, AND DID NOT GET THESE LOOPHOLES CLOSED THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANY CITY PERSONNEL TO MAKE IT SEEM THAT WE TOLERATE I.C.E. COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND SEPARATING FAMILIES AND DESTROYING BUSINESSES AND MAKING LIFE JUST GENERALLY HARD, AND

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CREATING LIFELONG TRAUMA FOR OUR RESIDENTS.  AND I AM JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF RESPONDING TO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONTLINES OF RESISTING THE TRUMP'S ATTACK ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE AS CITY LEADERS ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO NOT

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SUPPORT ANY POTENTIAL COLLABORATION, COMPLICITY, TO REALLY FURTHER THAT RESISTANCE THAT'S MAKING US A NATIONAL MODEL FOR RESISTANCE.  SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY A RAPID RESPONSE TO THIS

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LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT CAN GIVE US SOME CONCRETE ANSWERS AND POTENTIALLY SOME ACTION STEPS. >> VICEHAIR STEVENSON. >> YEAH, THIS MAY BE A LITTLE LATE TO THE PARTY, BUT I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST THINKING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM OR TO HEAR

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ABOUT THIS ITEM, BUT ONE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO KNOW IS WHAT KIND OF TRANSPARENCY MEASURES OUR OFFICERS ARE, WHEN THEY'RE IN COLLABORATION WITH HSI, WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF

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TRANSPARENCY MEASURES.  I'M THINKING BACK TO PREVIOUS TASK FORCES WHERE OFFICERS WEREN'T REQUIRED TO WEAR BODY CAM DEVICES AND THAT CAUSED TROUBLES IN OUR CITY, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE KILLING OF WINSTON SMITH.

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SO IF SOMEONE EITHER NOW OR AT A LATER DATE COULD REPORT BACK ON WHAT KINDS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY MEASURES THERE ARE FOR OUR OFFICERS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS, THAT WOULD ALSO BE SUPER HELPFUL.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON, FOR FLAGGING THAT.  I DID WA TO ALSO RAISE THIS PIECE TOO THAT THIS BODY PASSED A LEGISLATIVE DIRECT FEN THAT ASKED FOR INFORMATION OF HOW THE CITY IS SETTING UP SYSTEMS TO

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CAPTURE UNLAWFUL BEHAVIORS BY FEDERAL AGENTS WHEN THEY ARE IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE HAVE STILL YET TO GET A RETURN DATE -- [NO AUDIO] ON THIS.  I KNOW THIS IS ALSO SIMILARLY IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS IN REGARDS TO HOW MPD

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IS SHARING DATA OR SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW THOSE AGENCIES ARE PRONE TO LYING ABOUT HOW -- ABOUT THEIR CONDUCT IN OUR COMMUNITIES.  SO THIS IS ANOTHER AREA OF, LIKE, DATA SHARING IN ITSELF THAT IS REALLY

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IMPORTANT, AND IF WE'RE TRULY ALL ABOUT HOLDING THESE AGENTS ACCOUNTABLE SO THAT TAY THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN COME IN AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROTOCOLS FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, IF THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED BY FEDERAL I.C.E. AGENTS, I WOULD LIKE A STAFF

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MEMO TO ALSO REQUEST WHEN ARE WE GETTING THAT PRESENTATION BACK RELATED TO THAT ITEM BECAUSE I THINK THAT COMPLEMENTS THIS AS THE POINTS RAISED BY VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> I ADDED MYSELF BACK ON QUEUE. AND VICE CHAIR STEVENSON, WE CAN CONNECT OFFLINE TO SEE IF WE

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NEED TO ADDMORE LANGUAGE ONTO THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AHEAD OF FULL COUNCIL OR IF THIS DIRECTIVE WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR THAT, WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.  ALSO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR OUR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT TO BE ENFORCED WHEN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS BEING DEPUTIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASELL,

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SO WE CAN HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS AHEAD OF FULL COUNCIL.  ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES AND THEN FOR THE MEMO, DID WE GET THAT?  GREAT.  NO? >> MAY YOU REPEAT IT ONCE MORE, PLEASE? >> SURE.

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>> I WOULD LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION'S PRESENTATION DATE FOR THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TIED TO THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO UNLAWFUL ACTIONS TAKEN BY FEDERAL I.C.E. AGENTS AND I CAN ALSO SEND YOU THE

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ACTUAL LIMS FILE VIA TEAMS. >> ALL RIGHT.  SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL.  AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.  THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

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ANY ABSTENTIONS?  THAT MOTION IS FORWARDED TO THE FULL COUNCIL. OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 18, RECEIVING A REPORT REGARDING THE INTERNAL REVIEW OF THE SHOOTING OF DA DAVIS MUT MOTUR

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TURI.  COLLEAGUES, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?  OTHERWISE I'LL JUST RECEIVE AND FILE IT AND GO ONTO THE RELATED TOPIC, WHICH IS NEXT.  ALL RIGHT.  COLLEAGUES, WITH THAT, I WILL RECEIVE AND

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FILE THAT REPORT.  I'LL DIRECT THE CLERK TO THAT.  OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 19, APPROVING A RLEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE MOTURI-LUSSIER, MYSELF,

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VICE CHAIR STEVENSON, AND COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, AND THAT'S, THE REASON FOR THE SUPPORT IS THERE WAS A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN ON THESE AFTER-ACTION REVIEWS AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT AS THE BODY OR THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND EQUITY COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE TRACKING ANY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO POLICIES,

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PROCEDURES, TRAINING PROTO CALL, STAFFING ISSUES, 9-1-1 EMERGENCY RESPONSE, DISPATCH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE AFTERACTION REVIEW.  SO I JUST WANTED TO TH AT LEAST

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HIGHLIGHT THE REASON FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE.  IT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT RECOMMENDATIONS AS A COUNCIL ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED AND THAT THERE IS STRONG OVERARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.  I'LL MOVE THE ITEM

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FOR APPROVAL.  AND SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.  THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTION?  THAT MOTION CARRIES TO THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING.  OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 20, RECEIVING THE FIRST REPORT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF

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THE RENTAL LICENSE ORDINANCE. I'LL INVITE INSPECTION SERVICES DIRECTOR APRIL TO BRING THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ AND COUNCILMEMBERS.  MY NAME IS APRIL BOGARD I'M DIRECTOR OF

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INSPECTION SERVICES.  I'M HERE TODAY IN RESPONSE TO THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE ON RENTAL LICENSES.  THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE REQUESTED AN UPDATE ON REGULATORY SERVICES IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW RENTAL LICENSING ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2025.  SET TO GO

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INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1st, THE NEW ORDINANCE REQUIRES APPLICATIONS FOR RENTAL LICENSES OF PROPERTIES IN THE HIGHEST RISK TIER OR THOSE SUBJECT TO RENTAL LICENSING CONDITIONING TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR

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CONSIDERATION.  TO UNDERSTAND OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ORDINANCE, AND WHO IT IMPACTS, I'D FIRST LIKE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND PROVIDE DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TIERING IS, WHY WE HAVE IT, AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS AND

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REPRESENTERS.  OUR RENTAL LICENSE INSPECTION PROGRAM IS FAIRLY UNIQUE IN THAT WE CATEGORIZE RENTAL PROPERTIES INTO THREE DIFFERENT TIERS.  THE TIER IMPACTS HOW FREQUENTLY WE INSPECT A PROPERTY, AND ALSO THE RENTAL LICENSE FEE THAT IS PAID BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.  TIERING

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IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE RENTERS WITH TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE PLACES THEY CALL HOME, AND IT'S DESIGNED TO HELP US ALLOCATE MORE ATTENTION TO THE PROPERTIES THAT NEED IT MOST.  IN TERMS OF WHAT EACH TIER MEANS, TIER 1 PROPERTIES ARE CONSIDERED WELL MAINTAINED AS THEY MEET THE

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MINIMUM HOUSING CODE, AND GENERALLY WE PLAN TO INSPECT THOSE EVERY EIGHT YEARS.  TIER 2 PROPERTIES ARE STILL CONSIDERED WELL MAINTAINED, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTED ISSUES THAT MAY IMPACT RENTERS' SAFETY AND LIVEABILITY AND GENERALLY WE PLAN TO INSPECT THOSE ONCE EVERY

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FIVE YEARS.  TIER 3 PROPERTIES MAYBE POORLY MAINTAINED, AND THEY DO HAVE DOCUMENTED ISSUES THAT IMPACT RENTER HEALTH AND SAFETY.  THOSE ARE INSPECTED ANNUALLY.  THE NEW ORDINANCE REQUIRING CERTAIN RENTAL

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LICENSES TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL IMPACTS THIS LAST TIER, THE TIER 3 PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS ANY PROPERTIES WITH RENTAL LICENSE CONDITIONS.  SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE PROPERTY'S TIER? THE PROCESS FOR DETERMINING THE

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PROPERTY'S TIER IS MUCH SIMPLER ON PAPER THAN IT IS OPERATIONALLY.  UNSHORT, THE FIRST STEP IS TO DO TWO-YEAR LOOKBACK AT ALL OF THE RECORDS AT THE PROPERTY.    WE SCORE

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11 DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT HAVE POINTS ASSIGNED FOR EACH OF THESE FACTORS, AND THOSE TOTAL SCORES DETERMINE THE PROPERTY'S CONDITION AND THE TIER LEVEL. SO HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE 11 ELEMENTS THAT GET SCORED AND FACTORED INTO TIERING.  AS YOU CAN SEE, WE LOOK AT A VARIETY OF

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FACTORS INCLUDING CODE VIOLATIONS FOR LIFE SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, NUISANCE CONDITIONS AT THE PROPERTY, THE NUMBER OF REINSPECTIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS IT TAKES TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE AT THE PROPERTY.  WHETHER OR NOT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PAYING THEIR

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RENTAL LICENSE FEES ON TIME, AND IF THEY HAVE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS OR AUTHORIZATIONS, AND WHETHER THERE ARE ANY LICENSE CONDITIONS OR LICENSE REVOCATIONS.  SOME OF THESE FACTORS CONTRIBUTE ONLY TO THE RENTAL LICENSE FEE, AND SOME OF THEM CONTRIBUTE TO BOTH THE

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TIER AND THE FEE LEVEL.  SO WITH THAT AS OUR FOUNDATION, I'LL NOW ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFICS IN THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE JUST OVER 23,000 RENTAL LICENSES IN THE CITY.  OPERATIONALLY, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THOSE IMPACTED BY

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THE NEW RENTAL LICENSE ORDINANCE WILL BE BOTH TIER 3 PROPERTIES AND THOSE WITH RENTAL LICENSE CONDITIONS.  SO CURRENTLY THAT'S ABOUT 75 PROPERTIES.  THERE ARE ABOUT 53 PROPERTI WITH A TIER

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3 DESIGNATION RIGHT NOW.  AND THERE ARE 22 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE RENTAL LICENSE CONDITIONS. SO 75 APPROXIMATELY 75 IS OUR WORKING NUMBER FOR RIGHT NOW. WE THINK THIS NUMBER FEELS A LITTLE BIT LOW BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM COMMUNITY AND

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WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE.  WE KNOW THAT OUR TIERING SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING THE WAY IT IS INTENDED.  SO I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT TIERING DOESN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE PROPERTY, AND WHILE SOME

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CODE VIOLATIONS MIGHT FEEL VERY IMPACTFUL TO RENTERS, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, SO THE WAY WE'RE WEIGHTING TIERING RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE LESS OF AN IMPACT.  AND SECONDLY, THE WAY WE'RE TIERING RIGHT NOW MEANS TIERING DOESN'T

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ALWAYS REFLECT THE BUILDING'S CONDITION AT THIS EXACT MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON RECORDS FROM JUST THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO WE ARE UNDERTAKING A VERY ROBUST AND MULTIYEAR PROCESS TO HELP US ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES WITH TIERING.  PART OF THE

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LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE INCLUDED THE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION OF THE HIGH RISK PROPERTIES.  SO YOU CAN SEE ON THESE HEAT MAPS THAT THE TIER 3 PROPERTIES ARE FAIRLY SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.  AND I DO WANT TO POINT

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OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE TIER 3 PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT THAT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY ARE TIER 1 PROPERTIE  THEY ARE IN GOOD CONDITION, AND RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DOING THEIR PART TO MEET OR EXCEED MINIMUM

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STANDARDS FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY HOUSING.  SO AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH MULTIYEAR ANALYSIS AND ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO MAKE TIERING WORK BETTER FOR EVERYONE.  WE'LL BE PROVIDING A PROJECT OVERVIEW AT A COUNCIL

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ROUNDTABLE IN JUNE.  I WILL, I WILL POINT OUT THIS SLIDE SAYS MAY.  JUST TODAY WE ACTUALLY RESCHEDULED THIS AND IT WILL HAPPEN JUNE 10th I BELIEVE. SO WE'LL HAVE A ROUNDTABLE COMING UP WHERE WE CAN DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THIS.  BUT

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WHAT I'LL SAY FOR RIGHT NOW IS THAT ANY UPDATES THAT WE MAKE TO TIERING IN THE FUTURE WILL LIKELY SHIFT WHICH PROPERTIES ARE IMPACTED BY THIS NEW RENTAL LICENSE ORDINANCE, AND WHICH PROPERTIES FALL INTO THE HIGHEST RISK TIER FOR THE 2028 LICENSING

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CYCLE.  SO LIKE I MENTIONED, THIS NEW ORDINANCE GOES INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1st OF 2027.  CRITICAL STEP IN IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE WORKING WITH CAN YOU BELIEVE TO PURSUE A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT -- COUNCIL TO PURSUE A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT SO THAT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE FULL FILLS THE SPIRIT IN WHICH

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IT WAS ENACTED.  WE WERE RECENTLY INFORMED THAT UNDER THE CURRENT PHRASING LICENSES UP FOR RENEWAL WILL NOT BE IMPACTED, AND WE KNOW THIS IS NOT WHAT THE INTENT WAS.  SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON SOME AMENDMENT LANGUAGE SO WE CAN GET THAT

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CORRECTED.  OPERATIONALLY, OUR WORK ON IMPLEMENTATION HAS FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING WHICH PROPERTIES WE THINK WILL BE IMPACTED, PROJECT PLANNING, IDENTIFYING IMPLEMENTATION QUESTIONS SUCH AS ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE

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TO THE LICENSE RENEWAL CYCLE, INTERNAL TIMING FOR CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR OUR -- TO MAKE THIS ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTATION WORK.  AND THEN WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO SOME EDUCATION AND NOTIFICATION TO

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PROPERTY OWNERS.  WE ARE ALSO ACUTELY AWARE THAT STAFF CAPACITY IS A POTENTIAL CHALLENGE FOR US HERE.  WE ARE WORKING HARD TO STREAMLINE OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES, BUT EVEN

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WITHOUT ADDED RESPONSIBILITIES, OUR STAFF WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS ARE ALREADY STRETCHED BEYOND CAPACITY.  IN SUMMARY, WE'RE STILL IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IMPLEMENTING THE NEW RENTAL LICENSE ORDINANCE, AND AS WE CONTINUE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO

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THE SPIRIT OF THIS ORDINANCE TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL KEEP THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED UP TO DATE SO THEY KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT TO EXPECT AS WE NEAR THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS.. >> THANK YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER

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WONSLEY. >> YEAH.  THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS PRESENTATION AS THE COAUTHOR OR AS LEAD AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE CALLED STOP, WAS IT TIER -- STOP SLUMLORDS

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BASICALLY.  THAT SAID THOUGH, I ABSOLUTELY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE JUNE COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE ONLY BECAUSE I, I THINK THIS BODY OF COURSE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UPHOLDING A STANDER OF QUALITY HOUSING FOR EVERY

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RESIDENT ACROSS THE CITY AND EVEN SEEING THAT THOSE DOTTED LINES ARE CONCENTRATED IN CERTAIN POCKETS OF THE CITY THAT ARE LARGELY MORE DIVERSE, USUALLY LOW INCOME, AND YOUR ZIP CODE, YOUR ECONOMIC BACKGROUND, OR YOUR RACIAL IDENTITY SHOULDN'T DICTATE IF YOU HAVE

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ACCESS TO QUALITY HOUSING OR NOT.  AND LANDLORDS SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT IS A STANDARD AND AN EXPECTATION AND OUR ORDINANCES SHOULD NOT JUST REFLECT THE SPIRIT OF THAT BUT REFLECT THE INTENTION OF HOLDING THAT STANDARD AND ENFORCING IT SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING CLOSELY

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WITH YOU ALL AROUND WHATEVER AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING.  AND ALSO ANY FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT'S NEEDED.  WE OF COURSE NEVER WANT STAFF CAPACITY TO BE USED AS A BARRIER FOR MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS DON'T GET THE TYPE OF QUALITY HOUSING THAT THEY DESERVE.  AND THAT THEY'RE

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CURRENTLYOT BEING PROVIDED BASED OFF O OF OUR EXISTING TIERING STRUCTURES AND BASED OFF THOSE IN TIER 3 HAVE NOT AND HAVE BASICALLY BEEN GIVEN KIND OF A PASS TO DENY THOSE RESIDENTS THE QUALITY HOUSING THEY THAT DESERVE.  SO WE WANT

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TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE STAYS WITHIN THE LINE OF IT'S INTENTION, WHICH IS TO HOLD THOSE LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT TO CREATE ANY FREE PASS FOR SEGREGATED HOUSING CONDITIONS IN OUR CITY. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO DO FURTHER WORK ON THIS, AND DO AGAIN AS YOU MENTIONED FURTHER

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OUTREACH TO LET RESIDENTS KNOW YOU HAVE THIS AS A PROTECTION AND THAT THE CITY IS HERE NOT ONLY WITH THIS POLICY MEASURE BUT WE HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER PROTECTIONS TO SUPPORT YOU IF YOU ARE NOT BEING GIVEN THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT YOU DESERVE OR IF YOUR RIGHTS ARE BEING

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VIOLATED B YOUR LANDLORD.  SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE MANY MORE UPDATES IN THE FUTURE AS WE WORK TO STRENGTHEN THIS ORDINANCE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR FOR THE PRESENTATION.  I'M CATCHING UP TO SPEED HERE AND SO I

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APPRECIATE IT THE PRESENTATION. JUST TO KIND OF QUICK QUESTIONS AS KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGES AND KIND OF THE WAY WE KIND OF TIER THESE SYSTEMS OUT, I WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH HERE THAT WE USED TO HAVE KIND OF IN THE PAST LIKE A QUARTERLY LIST THAT

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WOULD KIND OF SCORE, USE A DATA METRIC KIND OF THE WORST LANDLORDS IN THE CITY.  DOES THAT STILL METRIC EXIST IS IN DID WE MOVE AWAY FROM THAT?  AND IF THERE IS, I KNOW WE HAVE OUR POLICY VIOLATION DASHBOARD, BUT WAS UNSURE IF THERE WAS LIKE A

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LIST ANYMORE. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS SOMETHING WE CALLED THE GOOD CAUSE LIST. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY UPDATING.  IT'S A LIST OF, IT'S

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SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN THAT WE LOOK AT PROPERTIES BY PORTFOLIO, SO WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO UNDER AN OWNERSHIP, AND ASSESS ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS AND TRY TO GET A SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE PROBLEMS ACROSSHE PORTFOLIO.

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THAT I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE TAKEN OFF OF OUR WEB SITE AS WE WORK THROUGH SOME CHANGES.  THAT IS ALSO PART OF THIS UPDATE TO TIERING. >> GREAT.  YEAH, THE ARTICLE I'M READING BACK FROM 2015 IT SAYS

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THE QUARTER ELA LIST NOW FEATURES 124 OF THE MOST TROUBLESOME RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY BASED ON FACTORS SUCH AS UNPAID FINES, POLICE CALLS, CONDEMNATION LETTERS, DELINQUENT TAXES, ET CETERA, AND THEN IT' THE 108 PROPERTY OWNERS WITH TOO MANY VIOLATIONS, MUST TALK WITH CITY INSPECTION STAFF AND DEVELOP PLAN TO FIX THESE

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PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY CAN OBTAIN ADDITIONAL RENTAL LICENSES.  I HAVE NO IDEA OF THE CONTEXT AND BACKGROUND OF THAT AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THAT. >> I THINK IT'S THE GOOD CAUSE PROGRAM. >> GOOD CAUSE, OKAY. >> WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THAT BACK UP ON THE WEB SITE.

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>> PERFECT.  THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, DIRECTOR BOGARD. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO FILE THAT REPORT.  AND BEFORE WE HEAD ONTO ITEM NUMBER 21, I ASK THE

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ASSISTANCE BY THE CLERKS, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED TODAY BY MR. MOTURI WHO WAS ACTUALLY HERE FOR AN ITEM NUMBER 18, AND THAT PERTAINED TO HIM, SO COLLEAGUES I WOULD LIKE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW

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MR. MOTURI TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE.  DOES ANYONE HAVE OBJECTIONS HERE?  MR. MOTURI, YOU MAY JOIN US IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE. >> RIGHT NOW?

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>> YEAH. >> OOH.  HELLO.  ALL OF YOU. DAVIS MOTURI.  I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH

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MINNEAPOLIS POLICE AND WITH MY NEIGHBOR JOHN.  BEFORE MY SHOOTING, WE MOVED MY HOUSE ABOUT THAT WAS SEPTEMBER, AUGUST

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OF 2024.  YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAPPY.  YOU KNOW?  I WAS EXCITED FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS. YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THE BEST TIME

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IN MY LIFE.  ABOUT A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF AFTER I MOVED IN, I HAD MY FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH MY NEIGHBOR.  IT WAS

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NEGATIVE.  VIOLENT.  THERE WERE THREATS.  AND I MADE A POLICE CALL.  THE OFFICER WHO SHOWED UP TO MY HOUSE WAS AN OFFICER WHO I HAD AN INTERACTION WITH, AN OFFICER WHO RACIALLY PROFILED ME

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ABOUT THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT.  IT -- HAVING TO CALL FOR HELP, HAVING TO CALL 9-1-1 IN MY

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TIME OF NEED AND BE PRESENTED WITH THAT OFFICER, IT WAS SHOCKING.  BUT NOT VERY SHOCKING -- NOT SHOCKING AT ALL WHEN YOU'RE A BLACK -- WHEN YOU'RE A BLACK PERSON LIVING IN

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THIS CITY.  LIVING IN MY HOME THE PAST, DURING THAT TIME, FOR THAT YEAR, YOU KNOW, I NEVER KNOW WHAT I WOULD COME HOME TO. YOU KNOW, COMING HOME AFTER A

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LONG DAY AT WORK, IT SHOULD BE EXCITING.  IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU LOOK FORWARD TO. BUT I HAD TO LIVE AT THE END OF EVERY DAY WITH A COMING HOME WITH A DARK CLOUD HANGING OVER MY HOUSE.  THE HOME NO LONGER

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BROUGHT ME JOY AND HAPPINESS. IT BROUGHT ME DREAD, FEAR, AND TERROR.  SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS MOWING THE LAWN, OR MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, PLANTING SOME FLOWERS, YOU

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KNOW, IT REQUIRED PREPARATION. SHE COULDN'T STEP OUT OF HER HOME AND DO YARD WORK WITHOUT ME BEING THERE.  YOU KNOW, I HAD TO BE READY.  YOU KNOW, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE JUST STEPPING OUT AND, YOU KNOW, SITTING ON YOUR FRONT, SITTING ON YOUR FRONT LAWN, YOU

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KNOW, BECAME A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH.  IT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST INSANE THAT I WAS LIVING LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG.  JUST CONSTANT TERROR,

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DREAD, I COULDN' SLEEP, YOU KNOW.  I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I'M STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I DID IT.  IT

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STILL JUST SO SHOCKING WHEN I THK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIMES THAT I HAD TO CALL 9-1-1, DOZENS OF DOZENS OF TIMES, AND THREE DOZEN, DOZEN TIMESYOU

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KNOW?  AND I REMEMBER TELLING MY BOSS, AND I KNEW ANYBODY I TOLD, THEY JUST WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THAT CRAZY. YOU KNOW?  AND DEALING WITH THE,

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YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE HE POURED HUMAN WASTE THROUGH MY MAIL SLOT AND TO COME HOME AFTER -- AFTER A LONG DAY AT WORK AND BE PRESENTED WITH THAT, IT'S A LEVEL OF FOUL I WOULDN'T WISH ON MY WORST ENEMY.

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YOU KNOW, I STILL HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT THAT.  LIKE IT'S SUCH A GTESQUE ACT, AND TO HAVE SOMETHING OF THAT JUST DISCARDED AND HAVE NOBODY CARE, IT'S DISGUSTING.  YOU KNOW, YOU

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DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, YOU WORK HARD, YOU PAY YOUR TAXES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE SOCIETY, AND STILL YOU'RE DENIED ANYORT OF PROTECTION;

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YOU KNOW?  IT, IT WAS ME AGAINST THIS TERRORIST.  THIS RACIST TERRORIST.  AND I DELUDED MYSELF

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INTO THINKING THAT THE OFFICERS WHO SHOWED UP TO MY HOUSE EVENTULY WOULD GET THE MESSAGE AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING.  AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS ATTACKED BY MY NEIGHBOR, AND THE RESPONDING OFFICER TOLD ME TO JUST MOVE

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THAT IT REALLY STRUCK ME THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT  MY LIFE.  IN FACT, IT GOT SO BAD, IT STILL FEELS LIKE THEY WERE

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TRYING TO KILL ME AS WELL. BECAUSE IF YOU SAW SOMEONEFIGHTE WHO'S HAVING KNIVES, GUNS POINTED AT THEM, YOU DO NOTHING, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THEY

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WERE WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THEM AS WELL: IT -- YOU KNOW, AFTER DEALING WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT OFFICERS, ION'T KNOW

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HOW MANY, ON VARYING LEVELS, AND GETTING THE SAME RESPONSE, IT'S DISGUSTI.  YOU KNOW.  I, I WOULDN'T TREAT MY WORST ENEMY THAT WAY.  YOU KNOW?  AND THIS

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WHOLE EXPERIENCE HAS REIGNED MY LIFE -- REIGNED RUINED MY LIFE.  I HAVE TURNED INTO SOMEONE I CAN'T RECOGNIZE.  YOU KNOW?  I DON'T RECOGNIZE MYSELF, I BARELY LEAVE MY HOUSE; YOU

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KNOW, I DON'T SLEEP.  GAIN A BUNCH OF WEIGHT.  I LOST MY JOB. I HAVEN'T WORKED FOR TWO YEARS. YOUNOW, I BARELY SEE MY FRIENDS AND MY LOVED ONES.  YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TAKE ALL SORTS

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OF DRUGS.  I HAVE THERAPISTS.  I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SHEBANG, AND IT SUCKS.  AND EVEN THOUGH I'VE HAD TO G THROUGH ALL OF THIS, I STILL SEE ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY.  YOU KNOW?  I

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REMEMBER BEING IN THE HOSPITALA, FINALLY, I WOKE UP THINKING GREAT, FINALLY, HE IS GOING TO BE ARRESTED.  AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR FIVE DS.  YOU KNOW? I WAS FORCED TO WATCH THE

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POLICE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR THROW DIRT ON MY NAME AND BLAME ME FOR GETTING SHOT.  THE PRESS CONFERENCE WAS INSANE, YOU KNOWO

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MINNEAPOLIS FOR REALLYING BEHIND ME -- RALALLY BEHIND ME AND DEMANDING -- RALLYING BEHIND ME AND DEMANDING SOMETHING BE DONE. AND IT'S SHAMEFUL FOR A POLICE CHIEF AND MAYOR TGO ON TV AND

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TREAT AN INNOCT VICTIM LIKE THAT.  YOU KNOW?  IT WAS SO SHAMEFUL THAT T MAYOR TH DELETED H HIS PART OF THE DEO IN WHICH HE SUPPORTED WHAT THE THE POLICE CHIEF HAD STATED.

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IT'S SHAMEFUL, EMBARRASSING, AND IT IT FELT LIKE THEY WERE KICKING A MAN WHEN HE WAS DOWN, YOU KNOW, AT HIS LOWEST.  YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING THERE WITH BULLET IN MY NECK, SHATTERED SPINE, BROKEN RIBS, COLLAPSED

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LU, TUBES COMING OUT OF ALL SORTS OF ORIFICES, AND THIS IS THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT.  YOU KNOW?  I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DOUBLED DOWN LIKE THAT, YOU

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KNOW?  EVERYIME I THINK OF THAT, I JUST FEEL A RAGE INSID MY CHEST, A FIRE OF A THOUSAND SU, JUST MAKES ME WANT TO JUST

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EXPLODE.  YOU KNOW?  AND STILL EVEN DESPITE THIS AUDIT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.  AND HOW, HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE

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GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS? YOU KNOW?  IT ESPECIALLY SADDENED ME TO KNOW THAT EVEN AFTER THIS HAPPENED TO ME, ITHAN WHO SADLY LOST THEIR LIVES. WHEN THEY BEGGED FOR HELP AND

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THEY RECEIVED NONE AND IT COST THEM THEIR LIVES AND NEARLY COST ME MY LIFE.  NO THANKS TO THEM. YOU KNOW?  WHEN I NEEDED HELP, I DIDN'T CALL ANYONE.  I CALLED MY WIFE.  SHE RESPONDED.  SHE CAME

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AND FOUND ME BLEEDING TO DEATH ON THE GROUND.  AND THAT'S NOT A POSITION THAT ANYBODY SHOULD EVER BE IN.  AND I HOPE THAT ONE

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Y I CAN BECOME A FRACTION OF WHO I USED TO BE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY AND I KNOW

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WITH A CONSENT DECREE AND YOU KNOW THE MAYOR AND FOLKS HAVE STATED THAT YOU KNOW MPD IS MADE STEPS TO CHANGING, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AT ALL.  I HAVE NOT SEEN

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A SMIDGEN, YOU KNOW.  AT BEST IT'S STAYED THE SAME, AND AT TIMES I FEEL LIKE IT'S EVEN GOTTEN WORSE.  YOU KNOW, I WITNESSED IT.  I FELT IT.  I LIVED IT.  YOU KNOW?  AND THE

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RACISM THAT I HAD TO DEAL WITH DAY IN AND DAYUT, YOU KNOW, AND STILL HAVING PORTRAYED AS A TUFT BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, IT'S DISGUSTING.  I WAS DEALING WITH

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A RACIST.  AND I WAS DEALING WITH A DEPARTMENT THAT ALSO IS RACIST.  THEY DON'T VIEW BLACK LIFE AS WORTHY OF PROTECTION. AND THE CONSENT D DECREE AND MY

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OWN SITUATION I MEAN IT'S FOR THE -- YOU KNOW?  THERE HAS BEEN ZERO CHANGE AT ALL.  AND YOU KNOW, MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT THIS

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WILL SPAWN SOME CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THAT MY SUFFERING WASN'T FOR NOTHING; YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE TWO WOMEN WOO WHO LOST THEIR LIVES SADLY, THEIR DEATHS WERE FOR NOTHING.  AND YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MR. MOTURI.  ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE APPROVED AFTER THIS ITEM WAS QUARTERLY REPORTS ON YOUR CASE AND ALLISON LUSSIER'S CASE AND OUR HOPE IS THAT YES WE GOT AN AUDIT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BODY TRACKS THAT AUDIT AND MAKES SURE THAT ANY OF THOSE

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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED TO THEOLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY GET IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALLISON LUSSIER, WHAT HAPPENED TO COUNTLESS NEIGHBORS HERE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, SO I JUST AT LEAST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND YOU KNOW I THINK

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ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT, AND YOU SHARING YOUR STORY IS A PART OF THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.  SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR JOINING US TODAY AND COMMITTEE AND WANT TO SEE IT ANY OF MY CALL -- IF ANY OF MAY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE OUR LAST TOPIC. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. >> JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU

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MR. MOTURI FOR ALSO COMING AND SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE.  I KNOW THAT'S NOT EASY.  BEING IN A PLACE THAT ABSOLUTELY FAILED YOU IN YOUR MOST VULNERABLE MOMENTS. AND ONE THING THAT I JUST WANT TO AMPLIFY THAT YOU SHARED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT

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REDUCING WHAT TRANSPIRED IN YOUR SITUATION, .  IT WAS NOT A NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR CONFLICT. THIS WAS A HATE CRIME COMMITTED AGAINST YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, AND I THINK THAT IS ALSO CRITICAL PIECE OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE UPLIFTED AT THE CITY OF NOT ONLY

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JUST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOW ARE WE NEGLECTING TO RECOGNIZE HATE CRIMES WHEN THEY'RE BEING ENACTED AGAINST BLACK RESIDENTS.  MAKING SURE WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE EQUIPPED AND HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU TO

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ANY OTHER BLACK RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY.  AND I JUST WANTED TO AMPLIFY THAT BECAUSE YOU ABSOLUTELY MENTIONED THAT OF LIKE AT ONE OF THE ACTION STEPS THAT WAS PROPOSED IS A NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR MEDIATION PROGRAM, AND I HE TO BE LIKE THAT IS, THAT WAS NOT THE POINT.  YOU HAD

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A HATE CRIME.  YOU HAD A RACIAL TERRORIST WHO WAS EXTENDED GRACE, MORE GRACE THAN A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THEIR MOST VULNERABLE MOMENTS, WHO WAS SHIELDED BEHIND THE PERCEPTION OF MENTAL DISTRESS OR MENTAL

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ILLNS.  THAT IS OFTEN AFFORDED TO WHITE PEOPLE MORE SO THAN BLAG PEOPLE.  AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE THAT AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE FAR BEHIND AND TRULY

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JUST SAYING LIKE THAT PLAYED A ROLE.  AND WHY YOU WERE DENIED FIVE DAYS OF RESPONSE.  SO I JUST WANTED TO UPLIFT THE, THIS WAS A HATE CRIME.  IT'S BEEN FRAMED, REPEATEDLY IN A MULTITUDE OF WAYS THAT HAS

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REDUCED THAT.  AND YOU WERE TARGETED BECAUSE YOU WERE BLACK, AND WE HAVE REGARDLESS OF BLACK PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SUFFER RACIAL TERRORISM FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS, FROM THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROM ANY CITY STAFF, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT.  ESPECIALLY

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WHEN WE'RE LIVING LITERALLY UNDER A KLANSMAN IN CHARGE OF TRUMP, MINNEAPOLIS SHOULD BE RISING ABOVE THAT.  SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO DOING EVERYTHING I CAN AND I KNOW WITH A NUMBER OF

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MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS BODY TO MAKE SURE YOU, ALLISON LUSSIER, MARIAH SAMUELS, SO MANY VICTIMS WHO HAVE BEEN DENIED SERVICE BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR, THAT THAT'S NOT THE NORM THAT THAT'S NOT THE STATUS QUO THAT WE CONTINUE TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT HERE.

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>> VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS HERE WITH US IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND IN THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SIT AT HOME AND HAVE THE DAYS ROLL BY

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AFTER MPD VIOLENCE AND, I FEEL YOUR PAIN OF ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WAKE UP AND OH, MY GOD, A MONTH HAS GONE BY AND NOT EVEN REMEMBERING MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST MONTH BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT LEAVING THE HOUSE VERY OFTEN.  I'VE BEEN THERE AS WELL, AND SO I'M, I

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EMPATHIZE WITH YOU ON THAT.  I WROTE DOWN A QUOTE THAT U SAID THAT I'LL BE KEEPING WITH ME AND THAT'S I HOPE ONE DAY TO BE A FRACTION OF W I USED TO BE. THAT IS DEVASTATING TO HEAR. ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING I'LL BE KEEPING THAT QUOTE WITH ME.  I

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HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.  YOU MENTIONED THAT WELL WHAT YOU SAID WAS THERE HAD BEEN NO ACCOUNTABILITY AND I WAS WONDERING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE FULLNESS OF YOUR THOS AND WE CAN -- THOUGHTS AND WE CAN HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS BUT JUST IN THIS MOMT, WHAT DOES

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ACCOUNTABILITY LOOK LIKE TO YOU? >> ONE OF T THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS O'HARA NOT BE REAPPOINTED.  THERE WERE

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INTERACTIONS THAT I HAD WITH OFFICERS, ONE OF THEM BEING AN OFFICER TOLD ME TO MOVE.  AFTER I WAS ATTACKED BY JOHN.  AND I

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KNOW THROUGH THE AUDIT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW INTERACTIONS THAT I HAD WITH OFFICERS IN WHICH THEY DIDN'T TREAT ME RESPECTFULLY AT ALL. AND I WOULD LIKE THOSE, THE OFFICERS WHO COMMIT SAID THOSE

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ACTIONS -- COMMITTED THOSE ACTIONS TO RECEIVE SOME SORT OF PUNISHMENT.  AND THERE WERE DEFINITELY QUITE A FEW.  AND

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I'VE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE OFFICERS WHO ACTED POORLY RECEIVING ANYTHING ANY SORT OF JUST, JUST TALKING TO ANY SORT OF EVEN COACHING.  SO I WOULD

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LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. >> OKAY. >> I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THE OFFICERS YOU MENTIONED HERE, IF YOU FILED ANY COMPLAINTS, IF WE NEED TO DO THAT. >> AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE NOTED THAT THE MAYOR DELETED HIS PART OF THAT PRESS

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CONFERENCE AFTER THE PUBLIC BACKLASH. >> THE PRESS CONFERENCE. >> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. >> I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED PUBLICLY, AND I WOULD LIKE AN APOLOGY, PUBLIC

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APOLOGY FROM THE MAYOR FOR THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR MIND? WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IN E FUTURE, SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO GET IT ALL OUT NOW BUT ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR MIND? >> I HAVE A FEW OTHER, OTHER THINGS BUT YEAH, I CAN DISCUSS

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THAT WITH YOU LATER. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.  AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE ON QUEUE.  CLERKS, GIVEN THAT I SUSPENDED THE RULES FOR THIS DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING OR IS IT WE CAN GO ONTO THE NEXT TOPIC?

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OKAY.  GREAT.  GOOD?  ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, NOW WE'RE ONTO THE LAST ITEM WHICH IS

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NUMBER 21, RECEIVING A RESPOND THUS WAS AN ITEM BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILMEMBER VETAW SO NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO TALK BEFORE OR AFTER.  OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON,

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COUNCILMEMBERS.  FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS ANDY SCOOTMAN I AM THE DIREC CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY.  THANK YOU FOR TODAY AS DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS, DRF. SIMPLY PUT DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS ARE DRONES THAT RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TOERTAIN

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9-1-1 CALLS, ARRIVE BEFORE OFFICERS OR FIREFIGHTERS, AND PROVIDE LIVE VIDEO SO FIRST RESPONDERS GO WHAT THEY'RE RESPONDING TO BEFORE THEY GET THERE.  THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY IN GENERAL, MPD IN PARTICULAR, HAS BEEN EXPLORING

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THE DEPLOYMENT OF DRONES IN THIS MANNER FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. DURING THAT TIME WE WORKED WITH MULTIPLE VENDORS VENDORS.  WE'VE SHARED OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA TO SEE WHERE IN THE CITY,HICH AREAS IN THE CITY WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY.  AND WE'VE

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EVALUATED HOW PILOT PROJECT COULD OPERATE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS.  DUE TO STAFFING, DUE TO RESOURCES, DUE TO OTHER OPERATIONAL PRIORITIES, WE ULTIMATELY PUT THIS WORK ASIDE AT LEAST TPORARILY, SO I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER VETAW FOR BRINGING THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE FORWARD

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AND HELPING US MOVE THIS CONVERSATION AHEAD.  TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL OUTLINE A PROPOSED PILOT PROJECT IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS POTENTI APPLICATIONS ACROSS THE CITY AND

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BEYOND POLICING.  I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOT INTENDED TO REPLACE HUMAN INTERACTION.  THAT REMAINS ESSENTIAL IN POLICING AND IN PUBLIC SAFETY.  WHAT IT CAN DO, HOWEVER, IS HEL DETERMINE WHEN OFFICERS OR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE

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TRULY NEEDED AND AVOID SENDING PERSONNEL TO SITUATIONS WHE WHERE BY THE TIME THEY ARRIVE THERE IS ULTIMATELY NOBODY THERE TO INTERACT WITH.  IN A DEPARTMENT MPD THAT CONTINUES TO FACE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES, WE BELIEVE THAT MATTERS.  IF TECHNOLOGY CAN SAFELY CLEAR

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CERTAIN CALLS, OR PROVIDE BETTER INFORMATION BEFORE OFFICERS ARRIVE, IT POTENTIALLY FREES UP OFFICERS TO RESPOND MORE QUICKLY TO OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE AND OTHER CRIME VICTIMS IN OUR COMMUNITY.  IN ADDITION TO MPD, YOU'LL ALSO HR FROM FIRE, 9-1-1, AND REGTATORY SERVICES TODAY BECAUSE MANY CITY

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DEPARTMENTS NOTUST MPD COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS TECHNOLOGY.  SITHIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ACROSS OUR STATE ARE USING THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THIS WAY, AND THEY'RE SEEING SOME GREAT SUCCESSES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.  ULTIMATELY TS CONVERSATION TODAY WE HOPE IS ABOUT EXPLORING WHETHER

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TECHNOLOGY CAN HELP US RESPOND FASTER, IMPROVE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, INCREASE OFFICER A RESIDENT SAFETY, AND DELIVER CITY SERVICES MORE EFFICIENTLY FOR THE PEOPLE OMINNEAPOLIS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO COMMANDER TOM CAMPBELL OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO

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BEGIN OUR PRESENTATION. >> WELCOME. >> THANKS, CHIEF OF STAFF SKESCOOTMAN.  GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AND COUNCILMEMBERS.  MY NAME IS THOMAS CAMPBELL.  I AMHE COMMANDER OVER THE SPECIAL

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OPERATIONS DIVISION.  PART OF THAT I OVERSEE THE MPD DRONE UNIT. I ALSO HAVE ALONG WITH ME SERGEANT ROGER.    HE RUNS THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS FOR OUR DRONE UNIT THAT IS UP AND RUNNING FOR THE MPD.  I'M PRETTY EXCITED TODAY I'M GOING TO BE GIVING YOU A PRESENTATION ON THE

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DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDER PILOT PROJECT THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO BENEFIT MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MINNEAPOLIS FIRE, REGULATORY SERVICES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND MINNEAPOLIS 9-1-1, AND MANY OTHERS THAT WE CAN, WE DON'T

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KNOW QUITE YET WHAT THOSE ARE. ST TO LEVEL SET, JUST FOR YOU'RE AWARENESS, THE MPD HAS USED DRONES IN THE CITY SINCE 2022.  WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12 PILOTS THATAVE PART 107 LICENSES WHICH ALLOW THEM TO FLY

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DRONES.  OUR CURRENT DRONE FLEET CONSISTS OF 12 EXTERIOR DRONES AND 10 INTERIOR DRONES.  THE TOTAL MISSIONS FROM OUR START DATE IN FALL OF 2022 TO NOW HAVE BEEN 584 MISSIONS, WHICH WOULD

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INCLUDE PATROL ASSIST AND HIGH RISK SEARCH WARRANTS.  TO DATE THERE HAS BEEN ZERO, NO CITIZEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT MPD DRONE USAGE.  AND CURRENTLY JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WE FLY EITHER FROM OUR DRONE COMMAND VAN OR WE FLY OUT OF OUR SQUAD TRUNKS.

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COVERED AGAIN WHAT IS DFR.  WHAT IS GROWN AS FIRST RESPONDERS. IT'S THE PROACTIVE USE OF DRONES TO IMMEDIATELY RESPOND TO 9-1-1 CALLS FOR SERVICE.  UPON ARRIVAL LIVE VIDEO IS STREAMED BACK TO OUR DISPATCH WHERE WE HAVE OUR PILOTS SEATED.  THEY THEN PROVIDE REAL-TIME SITUATIONAL

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AWARENES TO OFFICERS WHO ARE EN ROUTE TO THOSE CALLS.  FIRST RESPDERS WATCH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN REAL-TIME, BEFORE THEY GET THERE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A MORE INFORMED RESPONSE OR EVEN THE CLEARING OF THE CALL PRIOR TO SQUADS EVEN HAVING TO GO OUTT

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WOULD BE A -- DFR PILOT PROJECT WOULD BE A FREE 75-DAY TRIAL PERIOD CONDUCTED IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT AND THAT IS DRIVEN BY DATA WHY WE SELECTED THAT AREA. THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP IS WITH SKIDEO AND IT IS THE LARGEST DRONE MANUFACTURERO DATE IN

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THE UNITED STATES.  THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH FIVE AGENCIES IN MINNESOTA WITH A DFR PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD BE ST. PAUL, DULUTH, ROCHESTER, MINNETONKA, AND BROONG BROOKLYN PARK.  SKYDIO IS ALSO WORKING WITH 236 OTHER AGENCIES

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NATIONWIDE, AND TO NOTE THEY ARE WORKING WITH 24 OF THE MAJOR CITY CHIEF DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE NATION.  THE PURPOSE OF DFR IS TO REDUCE MPD RESPONSE TIME

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TO 9-1-1 CALLS.  WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN CLEAR -- WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLEAR LOW LEVEL 9-1-1 CALLS FOR SERVICE SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL POLICE RESPONSE TO THOSE CALLS.  THIS INEVITABLY WILL INCREASE OUR OFFICERS SAFETY WITH THAT REAL-TIME INFORMATION COMING IN, AND IT WILL OVERALL

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PROTECT COMMUNITY SETY EVEN MORE.  WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO WORK WITH THESE OTHER DEPARTMES THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO IMPROVE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS AND THEIR EFFICIENCY ON WHAT JOBS THAT THEY DO.  HOW MANY DRONES AND WHERE.  AGAIN, WE

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SAID THE TRIAL LOCATION WILL BE IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT.  IF IT'S APPROVED, AND THEY'LL BE LAUNCHING FROM FIRE STATION 14 T. THE GOAL THERE IS TO ALSO ON TOP OF STAON 14 IF IT'S A GO AHEAD, WE'RE GOING TO PUT TWO DRONE DOCKS ON TOP OF THERE AND

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THENHEY'LL BE RESPONDING TO THE FOURTH PRECINCT CALLS FOR SERVICE.  AS THEHIEF OF STAFF NOTED, WE GAVE SKYDIO ALL OF OUR 2025 CALLS FOR SERVICE.  THEY LOOKED AT PRIORITY ZERO AND 1 CALLS.  THEY NOTED THAT IN THAT

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FOURTH PRECINCT THEY HAD 33,402 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THAT PRIORITY ZERO AND 1 SELECTION. WITHIN THAT DATA, SKYDIO WAS ABLE TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEY DETERMINED THAT WITH JUST THOSE TWO DRONE DOCKS ON

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STATION 14, THOSE TWO DOCKS COULD'VE SERVICED 4,643 OF THOSE PRIORI 0 OR 1 CALLS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES.  SO 120 SECONDS OR LESSHEY COULD'VE BEEN ON SITE ON A PRIORITY 0 OR 1 CALL.  THE

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DRONES, SO THE SKYDIO X10 IS LIKE THE GOLD STANDARD FOR THE DRONES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY. THEY'RE RATED FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER, RAIN OR SNOW WE CAN FLY THEM.  AROXIMATE 45 MINUTE FLIGHT SIME SO TWO OF THOSE DRONES UP THERE AND THEY CAN EITHER GO ON SEPARATE CALLS OR THEY CAN WORK OFF OF ONE CALL

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AND ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPERATIONAL EVERWATCH AND VIDEO FEED.  THEY WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH A PARACHUTE SO IF FOR ANY REASON THERE WAS AN ISSUE, A DRONE HAD A MALFUNCTION, A PARACHUTE OUGHTEE DEPLOYS AND IT SAFELY GOES TO THE GROUND FOR RECERY. THEY WILL HAVE POLICE MARKINGS,

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POLICE RED AND BLUE LIGHTS RUNNING AT ALL TIME.  IF SOMEONE SAW IT IN THE SKY AT 200 FEET, THEY WOULD SEE THE LIGHTS ON IT AND KNOW IT WAS A POLICE DRONE AND THEY OPERATE UNDER WI-FI AND CELLULAR NETWORKS IN CONCERT, SO THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM LOSING

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CONNECTIVITY IS NEXT TO ZERO.  I WOULD LIKE DIRECTOR TO COME UP, SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF MECC TO SPEAK ON THE BENEFITS OF THIS IN HER DEPARTMENT. >> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON,

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CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBERS. LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE ASPECT OF SOME OF THE BENEFIT THAT CAN SHOW UP IN THE 9-1-1 CENTER IS EVEN GOING BEYOND SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE ON 0 AND 1 CAWCALLS.  WE LOOK AT

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OTHER CAUSE THAT DO TAKE FOR GETTING OFFICER O OUT THERE. SUCH AS A VEHICLE PARKED IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE FOR THE LAST DAY.  OFTENTIMES WE WILL GET SOMEONE THERE TO LOOK AT IT AND THAT VEHICLE'S GONE.  THIS

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IS SOMETHING THE DRONE CAN LOOK AT SEE IF THE VEHICLE IS TILL THERE, SEE IF THERE IS A NONRESPONSE TO THE LOCATION. ANOTHER PIECE THIS CAN BE USE FOR IS IF WE HAVE A MISSING PERSON, WE HAVE TO CONTACT THE STATE PATROL AND ASK THEM TO GET THE HELICOPTER UP INTO FLIGHT FOR US TO HELP LOOK IN CERTAIN

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LOCATIONS FOR THEM.  THAT CAN TAKE AN HOUR OR LONGER TO GET THAT HELICOPTER UP AND FLYING WHERE A DRONE CAN BE OVER AN AREA AS HE SAID IN JUST A MATTER OF MOMENTS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE.  AND WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY NEAR WATER THAT

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SECONDS COULD REALLY HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IF WE GOT OUT THERE WITH SOME TYPE OF SIGHT ON THEM TO KNOW WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE AT.  ALSO BENEFICIAL WHEN SOMEBODY'S IN THE RIVER. SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET A CALL THAT SAYS I SEE SOMEBODY OUT IN THE RIVER, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE

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HAVING DIFFICULTY, I'M STANDING BY THIS BANK AND THEY DO THEIR BEST TO DESCRIBE, BUT IF YOU'RE WALKING ALONG THE BANK, OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT EASY TO TELL EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE AT.  THIS COULD GET LOCATION IN A SPOT FOR US MUCH QUICKER TO GET RESPONSE.

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THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN ITSELF WE COULD ALSO SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE WITH IF THERE IS A TECHNICAL RESCUE, SOMEBODY FALLS OFF OF THE SIDE OF THE CLIFF AT MINNEHAHA FALLS, THIS HELPS THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET A VIEW OF WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES DO WE TBEED TO

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GET DOWN TO THAT PERSON.  THESE ARE ALL CALLS THAT COME INTO THE 9-1-1 CENTER THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE ANOTHER TOOL TO BE ABLE TO SEND SOME RESOURCES OUT THERE.  WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL BE TURNING IT OVER TO, TO TOM CAMPBELL

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AGAIN. >> THANK YOU, WELCOME. >> THANKS, DIRECTOR.  AND JUST A NOTE ON THE SCREEN HERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE PHOTOS.  THIS IS AN ACTIVE -- I'LL SAY IT'S AN ACTIVE BUT IT'S MECC DOWN IN DISPATCH.  WE CURRENTLY ARE SWO

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DRONE PILOT STATIONS READY TO GO IF WE GET A THUMBS THUM UP -- THUMBS UP ON THE PROGRAM. FOR THOSE PILOT STATIONS WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING OUR DRONE OR CURRENT DRONE PILOTS CYCLING IN DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD LEARNING

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WITH THE SKYDIO LIKE THEIR I.T. TEAM.  THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HELP US LEARN THE INS AND OUTS OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM.  BUT THESE HOURS ARE ADJUSTABLE AS WE BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM.  DATA COLLECTION.  WHAT WILL BE

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TRACKED ON THIS.  SO IT WOULD BE DRONE DISPATCH TIME, AS SOON AS A CALL COMES IN MECC, HOW QUICKLY CAN WE DISPATCH A DROWN OUT TO SCENE.  THE ARRIVAL TIME OF THE DRONES, AND COULD WE HAVE CODE 4ED THE SCENE, MADE THE SCENE SAFE PRIOR TO EVEN A SQUAD

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ARRIVING ON SCENE.  AND WE WANT TO COMPARE THAT DATA AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEND A PHYSICAL SQUAD OUT WITH EVERY CALL. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE COULD'VE DONE THIS WITHOUT THEQUAD, BUT DURING THE TRIAL PERIOD WE'RE STILL SENDING A PHYSICAL SQUAD TO ALL OF THESE CALLS.  AND WITH EVERY

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CALL WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE ANALYTICS, THE AFTER-ACTION REPORTS WITH THESE AND MPD, ANY KIND OF PIMS REPORTS THAT HAVE TO BE COMPLETED WITH THEM.  I'LL DISCUSS THIS SHORTLY, BUT WE ARE ONLY AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE UNDER

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STATE LAW SO EVERYTHING WE DO IS HIGHLY ♪REGULATED.  BUT JUST FOR PEOPLE'S, I GUESS SENSE OF SECURI, KIND OF A THING, BUT WHEN WE LAUNCH THESE, WE CAN, WE CAN LAUNCH THEM BY REMOTE PILOT OR AUTONOMOUSLY.  THEY'LL LEAVE THE DRONE DOCK.  THE CAMERA

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STAYS AT THE HORIZON, THEY'LL NEVER PAN THE CAMERA DOWN UNTIL THEY GET ON SCENE.  ONCE THEY'RE ON SCENE, THE REMOTE PILOT TAKES CONTROL OF THE CAMERA, CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, GET DIRECTION FROM OFFICERS ON THE GROUND OR FIRE, WHOEVER'S OUT THERE THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE.

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THEY CAN CLEAR THE CALL.  IT GOES, THE CAMERA GOES BACK HORSWRAWPTALLY TO 180 DEGREES TO THE HURUSEN.  IT RETURNS TO THE DRONE DOCK, LANDS IN THE DRONE DOCK AND THEN I IMMEDIATELY STARTS UPLOADING ALL VIDEO EVIDENCE INTO EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH TO NOTE I GUESS SKI' DIO

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WORKS DIRECTLY WITH OUR AXON ECOSYSTEM SO OUR BODY CAMS, OUR TASSARDS -- TASERS, MAPPING SYSTEM, IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER SEAMLESSLY.  ALL VIDEO THAT COMES IN THAT THE PILOT DETERMINES TO HAVE EVIDENTIARY

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VALUE WILL BE HELD BY STATE LAW. SO WE CAN EITHER DELETE IT IF IT S NO EVIDENTIARY VALUE WE HAVE TO DELETE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS THATSET MANDATED BY STATE LAW. WE CAN ACTUALLY TIGHTEN THAT UP IF WE WANTED TO AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN DOWN TO THREE DAYS AND

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DELETE ANY UNNECESSARY VID VIDEO AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF MINNETONKA DOES.  IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR MDHR SETTLE AGREEMENT AND WITH ELEFA, WE HAVE DETERMINED ANY EVIDENTIARY

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VALUE VIDEO WILL BE HELD INDEFINITELY.  INCIDENTS WHERE MPD COULD RESPOND TO, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE THOSE PRIORITY 0, 1 CALLS, AND AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW WE COULD DEFINITELY GO TO THE LOWER PRIORITY CALLS.  BUT ANYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH 9-1-1, WE

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COULD SEND A DRONE OUT TO, PERSONS WITH WEAPONS, MEDICAL AND FIRE CALLS,UTE AUTO ACCIDENTS, AUTO BURGLARIES, SOUNDS OF SHOTS, SHOT SPOTTER CALLS, FOOT AND VEHICLE CHASES, SHOOTING, STABBINGS, SUSPICIOUS PERSONS, MISSING PERSONS AND EVEN THINGS THAT WE KNOW IT'S A

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HUGE CONCERN IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IS ILLEGAL DUMPING CALLS, WE CAN SEND DRONES OUT ON.  I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF STEP UP.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CHAVEZ, VICE CHAIR STEVENSON AND COUNCILMEMBERS.  I'M THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.  I DO SEE THIS LIKE TOM SAID AS BEING A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US, SO WE ARE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE SOME O THE

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EFFICIENCIES WHERE THIS WILL GET US THERE FASTER AND ALLOW US TO STREAMLINE OUR RESPONSES.  ONE OF THE ONES IS AERIAL RECON AND MONITORING AT FIRES.  A LOT OF TIMES WE NEED TO SEE ABOVE SO WE CAN SEE THE CHANGING CONDITIONS ON THE ROOF TO KEEP THE PEOPLE

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OPERATING IN THE NEATH IT SAFE, SO -- UNDERNEATH IT SAFE.  SO FOR INSTANCE AT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, SEEING HVAC EQUIPMENT, SEEING WHAT'S ON TOP OF THERE, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING THEM OPERATE UNDER A POTENTIAL COLLAPSE.  HAZMAT RECON.  I WOULD LOOK AT LIKE HAWKEN'S

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CHEMICAL WHERE IT'S A BIG, BIG AREA, INSTEAD OF SENDING TWO OF OUR PERSONNEL IN TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF CONTAINER IS LEAKING, WHAT IS LEAK, WHAT IS BEING RELEASED WE COULD GET AN AERIAL DRONE ON THAT, TAKE A PICKHAIR AND COME UP WITH A PLAN OF HOW

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WE COULD SAFELY MITIGATE THAT WITHOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY.  LIKE DIRECTOR SAID, SPECIAL OPERATIONS, ON THE RIVER BANKS, BEING ABLE TO SEE WHETHER WE HAVE A LOW ANGLE RESCUE, HIGH ANGLE RESCUE, ARE WE ABLE TO LOWER THAT PERSON TO THE RIVER BANK AND TAKE THEM AWAY BY BOAT

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OR CAN WE BRING THEM UP TO THE ADOTOP AND SAFELY BRING THEM INTO AN AMBULANCE.  RIVER BANK, CALL COMES IN, A LOT OF TIME WHERE THE PERSON IS AT IS NOT WHERE THEY ARE FOUND.  SO HAVING THE DRONE FOLLOW THEM

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WOULD ALLOW US TO GET TO THE AREA WE NEED TO BE QUICKER TO AFFECT A RESCUE.  THERMAL IMAGING FOR HOT SPOTS.  THIS ACTUALLY WAS WHAT ALLOWED US TO PUT THE FIRE ON 15th AND CENTRAL OUT:  WE WERE ABLE T GET ABOVE IT, UNDERNEATH ALL THAT DEBRIS, THEY WERE ABLE TO

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SEE WHERE THERE WAS FIRE BURNING.  WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME HEAVY MACHINERY IN THERE TO MOVE THAT DEBRIS AND PUT THAT FIRE OUT AND GET RID OF THOSE THREE DAYS OF SMOKE.  AND THEN ALSO MULTIVEHICLE ACCIDENTS, CURRENTLY WE SEND AN ENGINE AND A LADDER IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE

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PEOPLE TRAPPED, THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THERE.  WE WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO THEN SEND ANOTHER RESCUE CREW TO MORE EFFECTIVELY GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAPPED OUT RATHER THAN HAVING TO WAIT FOR THEM TO RESPOND.  THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.  WELCOME BACK.

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>> THANK YOU.  THANKS, CHIEF. NEXT WE WOULD HAVE REGULATORY SERVICES DIRECTOR.  I'M SORRY. IT WOULD BE DIRECTOR OF INSPECTIONS SERVICES, APRIL BOGARD. >> WELCOME BACK, DIRECTOR BOGARD.

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>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ AND COUNCILMEMBERS.  WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO THINK ABOUT HOW DRONES MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR INSPECTION SERVICES, I POSED THIS QUESTION TO MY STAFF, AND GOT A HUGE LIST OF POTENTIAL WAYS THAT DRONES COULD BE USEFUL TO US.  I WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED

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BY WHAT THEY CAME WITH UP.  I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS IT ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE NORTH SIDE.  I THINK THAT COULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR US.  ALSO ILLEGAL AUTO REPAIR.  LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, OFTENTIMES WE GET THESE COMPLAINTS AND BY

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THE TIME STAFF ARE ABLE TO RESPOND, THE ACTIVITY IS NO LONGER TAKING PLACE.  SO HAVING A FASTER RESP RESPONSE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US.  I THINK IT COULD BE PARTICULARLY USEFUL IN MONITORING VACANT BUILDINGS.  LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY THAT ARE

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VACANT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A HARD TIME IDENTIFYING WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO THE BUILDINGS, AND SO, HAVING DRONES BEING ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND A LITTLE BIT DEEPER WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.  WE OFTEN HAVE CHALLENGES WITH NUISANCE

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ABATEMENTS IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.  IF WE CAN'T SEE OVER THE FENCE, WE SOMETIMES HAVE A HARD TIME WRITING ORDERS. DRONES WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE US LINE OF SIGHT THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.  AS SOM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY SAID, DURING EMERGENCY HAZARDOUS

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SITUATIONS, FIRES AND STRUCTURAL FIRES, DRONES COULD BE VERY USEFUL.  EXTERIOR INSPECTIONS OF HIGH RISE BUILDINGS, DRONES WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BEING ABLE TO SEE FLAT ROOFS THAT MIGHT BE IN DISREPAIR WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US.  LIKE I

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MENTIONED THE MARGE ABANDONED PROPERTIES GRAIN SILOS, PLACES THAT BECOME ATTRACTIVE NUISANCES FOR URBAN EXPLORERS, BEING ABLE TO USE DRONES WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN THOSE SITUATIONS. LARGE CITY EVENTS OR PYROTECHNIC EVENTS, DRONES MIGHT BE UFUL

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THERE AS WELL. AND THEN AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY, VIEWING HAZMAT SPILLS OR LEAKS IF WE HAVE A REPORT OF SPILL ON THE RIVER, HAVING A DRONE BEING ABLE TO HELP US SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER WED ALSO BE HELPFUL.

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>> THANK YOU. >> THANKS, CHAIR.  NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REGULATORY SERVICES DIRECTOR SPEAK ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL. >> THANK YOU, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME

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IS AHMED ADOW AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF MINNEAPOLIS TRAFFIC CONTROL.  AND I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE COULD GET FROM THE USE OF DRONES FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.  AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WILL

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HELP US USE DRONES IS SPECIAL EVENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE LARGE EVENTS WHERE WE MANAGE MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS.  ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR OUR SUPERVISORS IS THEY GO AROUND EIGHT INTERSECTIONS AND INSPECTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.

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AND HAVING A DRONE WILL GIVE US A REAL TIME VISIBILITY AND ALSO AN AERIAL MAP TO COUPED OF IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED OUR RESOURCES -- KIND OF IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED OUR RESOURCES AND ALSO THE STAFFING NEEDS AND TYKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE CONDITION POINTS

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AND RESPOND RAPIDLY.  ANOTHER WAY WE COULD USE IS ILLEGAL AUTO REPAIRS AND ALSO ILLEGAL SNOW DUMPING WHICH IS REALLY MAJOR ISSUES IN MANY PARTS OF THE CITY.  AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPACTS HOW WE ARE ENFORCE IS WE HAVE TO WITNESS WHEN THAT

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EVENT IS TAKING PLACE OR THE ACTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE AND A LOT OF THE TIME WHEN WE RESPOND TO THESE EVENTS, THE EVENT IS NO LONGERITHER GOING ON OR HAS ACTUALLY CEASED AND IT CAN IMPACT HOW WE ENFORCE THAT.  SO HAVING A DRONE WE COULD FLY THAT

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REMOTELY TO GET A REAL-TIME AND GET AERIAL MAP TO ALSO CAPTURE THE EVIDENCE AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH FINES TO IDENTIFY THAT AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM IS ALSO IDENTIFY REPEAT OFFENDERS AND

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ALSO HOT SPOTS IN THE CITY SO WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE WHEN WE'RE ENFORCING TOO.  ONE OF THE LAST THING THAT I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH SE WAS SNOW -- ENFORCEMENT.  AS YOU KNOW IT'S A CRITICAL OPERATION, AND HAVING A

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TEAM OF 40 TRAFFIC CONTROL AGENTS TO COVER THE ENTIRE CITY BRINGS A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD MAKE EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY.  SO HAVING A DRONE WE COULD FLY TO KIND OF GET A REAL-TIME VISIBILITY OF THE ROAD

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CONDITIONS AND ALSO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE INACCESSIBLE ROADS WHERE WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES SO WE CAN BE MORE RESPONSIVE DURING THOSE CRITICAL TIMES.  AND ENSURE THAT THE STREETS ARE CLEARED, CLEANED

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AND ALSO ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.  SO THAT'S MY TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.  MOVING ONTO THE REGULATORY OVERSIGHT.

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SO WE'RE GOVERNED BY THE FAA. THEY HAVE COMPLETE REGULATORY CONTROL OVER OUR DRONES AND OUR AIRSPACE AND HOW WE FLY, WHERE WE CAN FLY.  WE'RE ALSO MANDATED AND CONTROLLED OUR STATE STATUTE 626.19 AND OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY.  OUR, THE STATE STATUTE

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HERE REGULATES WHEN, WHEN A UAV DRONE CAN BE FLOWN AND OPERATE IN MINNESOTA.  THERE ARE 11 SUBDIVISIONS HERE THAT WE CAN FLY UNDER, AND EVERY FLIGHT HAS TO BE CATEGORIZED ON WHEN OR UNDER WHAT SUBDIVISION HOOHERE THAT WE FLY UNDER.  AND MANDATES

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YEARLY REPORTING TO THE BCA SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO CREATE THAT REPORT, SEND IT TO THE BCA FOR THEM TO GO OVER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FLYING IN COMPLIANTS. THE STATE LAW MANDATES RETENTION ALLOWS MINNESOTA WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER.  IT PROHIBITS DRONES FROM BEING UTILIZED FOR RANDOM SURVEILLANCE, SO NO

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RANDOM SURVEILLANCE OR JUST RANDOM FLYING AROUND THE CITY. IT HAS TO BE UNDER ONE OF THESE 11 EXCEPTIONS.  THE STATE STATUTE PROHIBITS DRONES FROM HAVING FACIAL RECOGNITION, AND IT ALSO PROHIBITS DRONES FROM BEING EQUIPPED WITH ANY TYPE OF WEAPONS.  AND OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY, WE ALSO HAVE TO DO

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QUARTERLY REPORTS TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE REGARDING OUR UAV USAGE.  AND THEN FOR FLYING CURRENTLY, IF WE'RE FLYING, IF ANY OF MY PILOTS ARE FLYING, IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THESE THREE SUBDIVISIONS ON THE SCREEN THEY HAVE TO CALL ME DIRECTLY FOR APPROVAL OR THE RANKING DEPUTY

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CHIEF OR HIGHER.  THIS IS A REALLY GOOD SLIDE.  THIS IS THE PUBLIC FACING TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD.  SO DURING THE, IF WE GET THE TRIAL PERIOD APPROVED, THIS DASHBOARD WILLE ACTIVE DURING OUR PILOT PROJECT.  IT

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TRACKS ALL FLIGHT DATA AND THE REASONS FOR THE FLIGHT UNDER WHAT SUBDIVISION WE'RE FLYING. AND THIS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE CITY TALK WEB SITE FOR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO CLICK ON, TO SEE WHEN AND WHERE AND UNDER WHAT SUBDIVISION WE'RE FLYING.

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IN THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE IS ASKED ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.  WELL, CURRENTLY WE FLY ALL THE TIME AT THE PRECINCT OPEN HOUSES SHOWING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE DO AT THE COMMUNITY M STATS.  THEWERE THERE.  OUR TEAM WAS THERE TO PREST OUR DRONES.  THE PEACE

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INTERNSHIP SCAMMED AND A REAL COOL ON THAT SKYDIO DOES THEY HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED SKYDIO FOR ALL.  THEY PVIDE, IT'S PROVIDED FREE BY THEM BUT THEY BRING IN THEIR STAFF, THEY BRING IN THEIR DRONES, AND THEY, IT ALLOWED THE COMMUNITY TO FLY THEIR DRONES AND THEY TEACH THEM EXACTLY EVERYTHING ABOUT DRONES.

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IT'S PRETTY COOL.  AND MOVING INTO THE UP TOOER, HAVING A DEADICATED-- INTO THE FUTURE, HAVE A DEDICATED DRONE WEB PAGE FOR THE MPD WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR OUR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.  I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH REAL QUICK ON OUTSIDE AGENCY DFR SUCCESS.  YOU

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PROBABLY SAW IT ON THE NEWS MINNETONKA POLICE LAZ A REALLY GOOD -- HAS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.  THEIR FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE PROGRAM THEY HAVE HAD OVER 400DFR FLIGHTS FOR 9-1-1 CALLS.  65% OF THE CALLS, THE DRONE WAS THE FIRST ON SCENE AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THEIR

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OFFICERS, THEY SAID THAT 90% OF THEIR OFFICERS SAID THAT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE DRONE WAS HELPFUL ON THEIR 9-1-1 CALLS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CAR 20% OF THEIR CALLS WITHOUT EVEN A PATROL RESPONSE. SAN FRANCISCO MUCH LIKE HERE THEY HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM OR HAD

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A HUGE PROBLEM WITH AUTO THEFT, AND THEFT FROM AUTOS.  THEY HAVE, AND WITH INCONJUNCTION WITH THEIR AUTO THEFT TASK FORCE, THEY HAVE HAD A 44% REDUCTION IN AUTO THEFT AND AUTO THEFT WHEN THEIR DRONE PROGRAM WAS WORKING IN CONCERT WITH IT.

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THEY'VE HAD OVER 500 ARRESTS AND 166 STOLEN VEHICLE ARRESTS. DENVER OCTOBER 25 TO FEBRUARY 26 ONLY 16 WEEKS THEY HAD 622 FLIGHTS.  36 OF THOSE FLIGHTS,

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THE CALLS WERE CLEARED WITHOUT EVEN A GROUND UNIT HAVING TO BE DISPATCHED.  AND 84% OF THOSE THE DRONE WAS THE FIRST ON SCENE TO ARRIVE.  REDMOND, THIS IS REDMOND, WASHINGTON.  THIS ONE'S PRETTY COOL.  IN A FULL YEAR

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22025 STATS, THEY ARRIVED ON SCENE IN 1 MINUTE 33 IN A 9-1-1 CALL.  80% OF THE TIME THE DRONE WATHE FIRST ONE ON SCENE AND COINED OF TO NOTE HERE THEY HAVE 113 HOURS OF OVERTIME SAVED, $60,000 COST SAVINGS FROM CLEARING CALLS WITH JUST A

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DRONE.  THUS SLIDE -- THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.  I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF MOVING FORWARD. IF WE DO GET IT UP AND RUNNING, I WOULD INVITE IT WOULD BE GREAT ALL OF YOU TO MCC TO SEE HOW WE DO IT, TO SEE HOW THE PILOTS ARE

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FLY, ASK QUESTIONS AND BE ENGAGED WH OUR PEOPLE.  AND NOW I GUESS I'D OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.  FIRST I'LL SEE IF COUNCILMEMBER VETAW WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. N I'LL PASS FOR THE REST. >> WHAT A FANTASTIC

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PRESENTATION.  THOSE ARE MY FIRST WORDS.  THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMANDER CAMPBELL AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE COLLABORATED ON THE POSSIBILITIES OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE LIVEABILITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR CITY.  THIS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR ME BECAUSE

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OVER THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TOFIGURE DEPARTMENTS, HOW WE HELP SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'RE FACING LIKE LONGER CALL TIMES FOR POLICE RESPONSE.  LIKE TRASH DUMPING WHICH IS HUGELY IMPACTING NORTH

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MINNEAPOLIS IN PARTICULAR, MY WARD, A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE IN QUEUE TO ASK QUESTIONS.  I'M GOING TO LET THEM ASK THEIR QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.  THIS IS CERTAINLY BEEN A LONGTIME COMING, BUT THIS, I HAD A, I

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WENT TO GO WATCH THE DRONES FLY. THEY DID A PREVIEW FOR ME.  I THINK IT WAS LAST SUMMER.  AND JUST TO SEE THAT WE FINDY GOTTEN HERE WHERE -- FINALLY GOTTEN HERE WHERE YOU CAN PRESENT IT TO MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. >>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW

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FOR AUTHORING THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE.  I THINK HAVING THITHIS TYPE OF INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.  AND I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION.  I THINK THE BENEFITS OF IT ARE VERY SELF-EVIDENT, RIGHT?  AND I ESPECIALLY HEARING ABOUTT TAKES AN HOUR TO GET TO STATE PATROL UP AND YOU COULD BE THERE

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WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A MINUTE AND A HA OR LESS.  THE BENEFITS ARE VERY CLEAR.  I'M ALSO TRYB TRYING TO BE REALLYCOLOGY NISWRNT OF THE RISKS AND I SEE THESE RISKS, THERE ARE PROBABLY MORE 2457B TWO CATEGORIES BUT TWO TOP OF MINE FOR ME, AND THE

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FIRST ONE IS AROUND SECURITY AND VULNERABILITIES AND I THINK ESPECIALLY AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT ENSHRINED IN LAW JUST LAW MOVES SO MUCH SLOWER THAN THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF.  AND YOU KNOW I JUST, EVEN JUST DOING A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH ON SKYDIO HERE AND

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VULNERABILITIES, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE VULNERABILITIES THAT THEY'VE PUBLISHED IS INTERFERENCE WITH EMERGENCY RADIOS.  NOW I HAPPEN TO SERVE ON THE METRO EMERGENCY SERVICES BOARD, SO I HAVE MAYBE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN AVERAGE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR EMERGENCY

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RADIO SERVICES SYSTEM, SO WE OPERATE AT THE 800 MEGAHERTZ AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT VULNERABILITY IS AT THE 400 TO 450.  I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY THAT WE ARE IN JURISDICTION WITH WOULD BE ON THAT WAVEBLEPGHT, BUT THAT'S LIKE A KNOWN

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PUBLISHED VULNERABILITY BY YDIO THEMSELVES.  I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE UNKNOWN VULNERABILITIES AND I'VE FOLLOW ALONG WITH I GUESS FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION, I'LL CALL THEM LIKE A WHITE HAT HACKER HIS NAME IS BEN JORDAN YOU SHOULD ALL LOOK HIM UP.  HE DID SOME

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FEFOFENOMINAL REPORTING ON FLOCK VULNERABILITIES.  THERE IS A BIG GAP BETWEEN THE VENDORS SELL THE TECHNOLOGY VERSUS THE CAPABILITIES OF THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE VERSUS THE UNKNOWN VULNERABILITIES OF THOSE TECHNOLOGIES ARE.  SO THAT'S JUST A BROAD RISK CATEGORY THAT CONCERNS ME.  BUT I THINK FOR

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THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION, I ACTUALLY WANT TO READ DIRECTLY FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S COUNTERTERRORISM STRATEGY JUST PUBLISHED THIS MONTH.  I'LL JUST READ DIRECTLY FROM IT STARTING WITH IN ADDITION TO CARTELS AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST GROUPS, OUR

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NATIONAL COUNTERTERRORISM ACTIVITIES WILL ALSO PRIORITIZE THE RAPID IDENTIFICATION AND NEUTRALIZATION OF VIOLENT SECULAR POLITICAL GROUPS WHOSE IDEOLOGY IS ANTI-AMERICAN, RADILLY PRO-TRANSGENDER AND AN

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ARCTEST, WE WILL USE ALL TOOLS CONSTITUTIONALLY AVAILABLE TO US IDENTIFY THEM AT HOPE, IDENTIFY THEIR MEMBERSHIP, MAP THEIR TIES THEIR INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ANTIFA, AND USE LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO CRIPPLE THEM OPERATIONALLY BEFORE THEY CAN MAIM OR KILL THE INNOCENT.  WE WILL DO THE SAME WITH THE STATE SPONSORS OF SUCH

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GROUPS AND THOSE GOVERNMENTS UNDERTAKING LETHAL PLOTS ON U.S. SOIL OR AGAINST AMERICANS ANYWHERE.  IT'S PRETTY OMINOUS LANGUAGE COMING FROM OUR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN FROM A

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GOVEGOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE ON HOW WE DON'T END UP HAVING A TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM THAT IS ULTIMATELY MANAGED BY A VENDOR WHO ALSO HAS DIRECT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.  HOW DO WE LIKE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS FROM, YOU

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KNOW, UNDER THIS TELLING ALMOST EVERY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS COULD BE CATEGORIZED AS A TERRORIST IN THE WAY THAT THE RHETORI IS USED BY THIS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.  THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CONCERN ME.  IT'SOT LIKE YOU CAN HAVE AN ANSWER FOR HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THOSE RISKS, BUT

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IT'S A RISK THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE SERIOUSLY, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO LOOK UP BEN JORDAN AND READ OR HE DOES YOUTUBE VIDEOS BUT HE DID ONE ON FLOCK AND HE JUST RECENTLY DID ONE ON A LUKE A DOG BASED DRONE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES.  I

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THINK THAT ONE MIGHT BE A CHINESE DRONE AND I KNOW THAT SKYDIO EXPLICITLY HAS A MADE IN AMERICA STRATEGY, BUT IN THAT ONE, THERE WERE SOME SILENT CALLBACKS TO SERVENS IN CHINA THAT -- SERVERS IN CHINA THAT

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WERE KIND OF HIDDEN WITHIN THE SOFTWARE OF THAT DRONE.  SO THESE ARE LIKE THERE'S THE KNOWN RISKS, THERE ARE THE KNOWN VULNERABILITIES, BUT THEN THERE ARE THE VULNERABILITIES THAT WE DON'T KNOW UNOF.  THAT'S ONE RIRISK AND THE OTHER RISK THAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT

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IS HOSTILE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH SOUNDS HYPER BOLIC BUT IN MINNEAPOLIS WE EMBODY THEEXPERIA HOSTILE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S A RISK WE CAN'T TAKE LIGHTLY SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME COMMENTS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WERE ALSO HERE NOT JUST THE

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BENEFITS BUT ALSO THE RISKS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. >> GO AHEAD, SORRY. >> NO, I MEAN I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING EXACTLY WHAT THOSE HOSTILE RISKS WOULD BE LIKE WHATOWN WHAT THOSE WOULD BE.  AT ALL.  BUT. >> YEAH, I MEAN, I'M GETTING TO THE LIMITS OF MY TECHNICAL

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KNOWLEDGE, AND EVEN MAKING THAT ASSESSMENT.  BUT I THINK THAT IT'S AN EMERGING AREA OF RISK FOR ALL OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, MAYBE NOT SPECIFIC TO SKISKI' DIO THAT I KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY L HEAD, BUT IT'S SOMETHING

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WE OUGHT TO BE ACTIVELY MONITORING. >> COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. FIRST, I'M WANTING TO KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN A COST ANALYSIS ALREADY DONE ON THIS.  OF COURSE YOU'RE A PROPOSING AT SOME POINT FOR US TO CONSIDER 75-DAY TRIAL. POST THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE

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YOU'RE HAVING OTHER DEPARTMENTS PRESENT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT SOME TYPE OF ENTERPRISE-WIDE CONTRACT SO A COST ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE POST-THE 75-DAY TRIAL. >> WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL COST ANALSIS.  EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD IS NEGOTIABLE AND IT

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DEPENDS ON HOW WE SCALE IT.  SO WE DON'T AT THE MOMENT HAVE A COST ANALYSIS ON ANY OF THIS. >> CONSIDERING Y'ALL ARE ALREADY RUNNING OR MPD IS RUNNING INTO A 23-DLMILLION DEFICIT IS HELPFUL IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

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BRINGING THIS IN AN OPERATIONAL LINE ITEM.  STARTING AS A STAFF MEMO THEN, SRTING OUT WITH THE CASE EXAMPLES YOU TALKED ABOUT, LOOKINGT AT THE CONTRACTS THEY GOT IN PLACE IN THEIR FIRST YEARS.  FOR US TO THEN BE ABLE TO ASSESS ALSO WHERE IS OUR STARTING RANGE.  ARE YOU LOOKING

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AT A MILLION OR SO?  I CAN IMAGINE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THAT.  SO JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.  A STAFF MEMO COST ANALYSIS POST-TRIAL.  ALSO I WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON, AND THIS IS GOING TO SLIDE 18

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BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THIS WAS PROPOSITION SAID AS JUST A FIRST RESPONDER SITUATION.  SO THINKING O CS.  I'M INTERESTED IN HOW THESE ARE GOING TO BE DEPLOYED FOR NON-MPD, SINCE YOU

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SERVICES, SINCE YOU ARE THE -- REC SERVICES YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO USE IT AS A POTENTIAL TOOL TO VERIFY OCCUPANCY.  I'M ASSUMING THAT OCCUPANCY CONCERN IS REALLY RELATED TO UNWANTED PERSONS AND VACANT BUILDINGS, SO JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT CONTRACTS BECAUSE

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I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE LIKE REC SERVICES AND SOME OF THESE OTHER NONFIRST RESPONDER PROGRAMS LOOPED IN AND WANTED TO KNOW THE DEPLOYMENT MECHANISMS FOR THAT. >> YEP.  SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, IT'S DEFINITELY REGULATED UNDER STATE

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LAW.  WE CAN, IF LET'S SAY REGULATORY SERVICES WANTED, LET'S SAY THEY OPEN -- HYPOTHETICALLY THEY CALL IT OPEN A TICKET, RIGHT?  THEY COULD COME TO US UNDER SUBDIVISION 10 IN THE STATE STATUTE.  THEY COULD IN WRITING REQUEST,

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REQUEST SOMETHING, AND IF WE DEEM THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD FLY UNDER, UNDER THAT SUBDIVISION, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO FULFILL WHATEVER THEY NEEDED. >> SO YOU'RE TALKING LIKE REAL-TIME TICKETS THEN BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THEY MENTIONED ALSO WHAT YOU'RE KIND

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OF PROPOSITIONING FOR FIRST RESPONSES LIKE HAVING ON SITE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, I USUALLY THINK OF TICKETS AS LIKE 3-1-1 WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GRACE PERIOD SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE REAL-TIME. >> SURE.  AND YOU KNOW STUFF OF THAT NATURE, OTHER AGENCIES AREA

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DOES IT, THEY WORK THROUGH LIKE PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'RE DOING LOT OF WORK WITH THEIR ENTERPRISE PARTNERS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHATTRARY TRYING TO DO HERE. -- WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.  SO I GUESS WE WOULD MAYBE HAVE TO LEVERAGE MORE INFORMATION FROM THEM UNDER THE STATUTE HOW THEY DO THAT. AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THE 75-DAY TRIAL PERIOD WILL HELP US LEARN

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AND GET THROUGH THESE LITTLE HICK HICCUPS IN IT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT LEGALLY AND YEAH JUST DOING IT LEGALLY. SOME OF THOSE CASE EXAMPLES JUST REFERRING BACK TO THEN THE COST ANALYSIS.  I'M ASSUMING IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN UTILIZING THIS TOOL FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, GETTING A SENSE OF

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THEN WHO'S FULLY PAYING FOR THIS.  IS THIS NOW SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A SHARED COST AMONG REC SERVICES, M FD, OCS, HOWEVER THAT'S HAPPENING, AND IF THAT'S GOING TO THEN INFLATE THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE CONTRACT ITSELF. AND IF THERE IS OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THERE HAS BEEN DEPARTMENTS

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THAT HAS MULTIKIND OF OR OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE MULTIDEPARTMENT CONTRACTS LIKE WHAT IS THE AVERAGE AMOUNT FOR THAT TYPE OF CONTRACT AS WELL. >> YEP, I UNDERSTAND. >> AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE FOR JUST, NOT EVEN A QUESTION, COMMENT REFERRING TO THE SNOW EMERGENCY PIECE FOR

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TRAFFIC CONTROL.  I JUST WANTED CLARITY.  IF THIS IS ALSO TIED TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH SIDEWALK CLEARING, I'M GOING TO NOTE IF THE PUBLIC RECORD I RATHER SPEND HONEY ON ACT ACTUALLY -- MONEY ON ACTUALLY INVESTING IN THE SIDEWALK CLEARING PILOT THAN

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HAVING DRONES DRIVE AROUND.  I WAS LIKE WAIT, REALLY, FOR SNOW? OKAY.  MORE SO OF A COMMENT BUT THOSE ARE MY TWO FOLLOW-UPS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.  THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS --

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>> AND BEFORE I PASS IT DOWN TO YOU, VICE CHAIR, I DO SEE CITY ATTORNEY ON QUEUE.  NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO INTRODUCE SOMETHING FOR THE -- BEFORE THE VICE CHAIR SPEAKS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBERS.  I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STATUS IS OF ANY CONTRACT OR

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TRIAL, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A 0O DOLLAR CONTRACT.  I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COU COUNCIL OF ITS OWN ORDINANCE OF REQUIRING A PUBLIC ARING BEFORE ACQUIRING ANY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY OR SIGNING A CONTRACT TO PROCURE

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ANYTHING LIKE THAT.  THANK YOU. >> VICE CHAIR STEVENSON. >> THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. >> YEAH, THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.  IT WAS REALLY THOROUGH.  REALLY EXCELLENT.  I PERSONALLY FOUND MYSELF OSCILLATING BETWEEN WOW THIS COULD BE EXTREMELY USEFUL AND OH, MY GOD, THIS IS BIG

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BROTHER COMING TO RUIN OUR LIVES.  SO BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I DON'T SEE MANY, MANY, MANY WAYS IN WHICH THIS WOULD BE VALUABLE.  I WROTE DOWN ONE QUESTION THAT YOU LATER ANSWERED OF STOLEN CARS, PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND BREAKING WINDOWS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SO HARD FOR US TO

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TRACK DOWN WHERE THIS CAR, THIS GROUP, WHOEVER IT IS, DOING IT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD JUST BE AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE INCIDENTS QUICKER AND IDENTIFY HOW TO STOP THAT BEFORE THEY DO A RAMPAGE BETWEEN

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WARD 8 AND WARD 11.  SO THERE WAS THAT.  I DID HAVE A QUESTION.  WOULD THIS COUNT, YOU HAD NOTED RESPONSE TIMES BEING MUCH LOWER, WOULD THIS COUNT TOWARDS LIKE THE GENERAL RESPONSE TIME OF MPD?  AND THE

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REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I THINK MANY CONSTITUENTS MIGHT FEEL THAT RESPONSE TIME SHOULD BE WHEN AN OFFICER ARRIVES THAT THEY CAN TALK TO RATHER THAN WHEN A DRONE IS NOW WATCHING THE SITUATION.  SO HOW WOULD THOSE BE CALCULATED IN TERMS OF

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RESPONSE TIMES? >> I MEAN THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.  I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY OUR ANALYSTS DO ALL THOSE CALCULATIONS, BUT I MEAN IF WE'RE ARRIVING ON A -- YOU KNOW, IF AN OFFICER IS FLYING THE DRONE TO THE SCENE, AND

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THEY'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THE LET'S SAY IT'S AN ACCIDENT SCENE, THE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY EXCHANGED INFORMATION AND THEY, AND THEY LEFT, I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE EITHER WAY AND SAY YEAH WE'RE COUNTING THAT TOWARDS OUR RESPONSE TIMES.  WE RESPONDED OUT.  WE VISUALLY OBSERVED THE EA, NOBODY WAS THERE, AND THEY

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WERE ABLE TO CLEAR THE CALL.  SO I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THEY WOULD WORK TOWARDS THE RESPONSE TIMES. >> AND TO THAT POINT, WOULD THERE BE ANY SORT OF COMMUNICATION WITH OR FROM THE DRONE TO THE PUBLIC?

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>> SHORT OF A PILOT FLYING OUT TO A SCENE, PICKING UP THE PHONE AND MAKING 9-1-1 CALL, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN OUR MEETINGS OF ACTUALLY HAVING THAT CONTACT WITH A CALLER SAYING HEY, WE'RE EN ROUTE.  THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A DRONE PILOT OR HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT HEY,

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WE'RE COMING TO THE SCENE OR WE'RE OVER TOP OF THE SCENE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL WE SHOULD ADD, YOU KNOW, THE REMARKS TO THE CALL FOR THAT PHYSICAL ARRIVAL OF A AN OFFICER. >> OKAY, SO THE DRONE WOULDN'T LIKE HAVE A SPEAKER ON IT THAT SAYS THIS IS A POLICE DRONE. >> NO.

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>> NOTHING LIKE THAT.  OKAY. THERE WAS ONE THING ABOUT LOOKING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS REGULATORY SERVICE OR WHATNOT. IS TRE ANY SORT OFB, LIKE, CONCERN AROUND NEEDING A WARRANT

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TO DO THIS KIND OF SURVEILLANCE? >> YEAH, SHORT ANSWER IS YES. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE SURE AGAIN THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING STATE STATUTE AND WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANYBODY'S RIGHTS.  SO

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THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE'LL DEFINITELY BE VERY MINDFUL ON MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATUTE ON THAT AND NOT LOOKING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS UNNECE UNNECESSARILY. >> YEAH, I HAVE JUST GENERAL --

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THIS IS A COMMENT NOT A QUESTION.  I HAVE GENERAL FOURTH AMENDMENT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. IT JUST HITS ME THE WRONG WAY. BUT I ALSO SEE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY HERE, SO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.  AND THEN I ALSO

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FEEL A LITTLE ODD ABOUT US HAVING A PILOT ON THE NORTH SIDE.  I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMEMBER FOR THE NORTH SIDE IS THE ONE LEADING ON THIS, SO THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT IT JUST ALSO FEELS A LITTLE ODD TO HAVE OUR LATEST BIG BROTHER PROJECT EXCLUSIVELY ON THE NORTH SIDE

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FOR A LITTLE BIT.  SO THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT I'M THINKING THROUGH, AND I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THAT YOU REALLY WANT THIS, AND SO NOT TRYING TO STEP ON THAT AT ALL. YEAH.  LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE.  THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE I THINK DID I SKIP OVER YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. >> NO, YOU JUST GOT TO ME RIGHT NOW.  PERFNGT.  THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.  JUST TO -- AND TO NOT BELABOR THE POINT HERE, ALSO HAVE I THINK YOU SEE THE VALUE

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OF THIS AS WELL AS MANY OF MOY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID.  I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION THAT SPEAKS TO HOW THIS CAN BE USED, AND SHOULD BE USED IN AREAS BOTH ON OFFICER SAFETY AND COMMUNITY SAFETY AS WELL, AND SO EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS IS USED.  ALSO

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HAVE I THINK SIMILAR CONCERNS OF KIND OF THE USAGE OF THEM, ESPECIALLY AS LIKE THE HOPE WITH THESE BEING KIND OF LIKE THOSE FIRST KIND OF RESPONDERS ON THE SCENE.  AND THESE THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN VERY QUICK, AND LOOKING RIGHT OBVIOUSLY SECTION SUCKS

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26.19 AND THEN SUBDIVISION 3 WITH KIND OF THE AUTHORIZED USES IN THERE.  IT SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT, WHENEVER A DRONE GOES UP IN THE AIR, WE NEED TO HIT ONE OF THOSE KIND OF SPECIFIC SUBDIVISIONS OR I GUESS PARAGRAPHS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.  HOW, CAN YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH A LITTLE BIT HOW

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THAT PROCESS GOES?  LIKE SOMEONE SITTING THERE BEFORE A DRONE GETS SENT OUT, THIS HITS PARAGRAPH 6 OF SUBDIVISION 7 OR, SORRY SUBDIVISION 3 SENDS IT UP. LIKE HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? >> SURE.  SO OUR DRONE PILOTS WILL BE DOWN IN DISPATCH.

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THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE CAD INFORMATION THAT OUR CALL TAKERS ARE TAKING IN AND THAT THE DISPATCHERS ARE SEEING, RIGHT AND THEY CAN SEE THE PRIORITIES OF THE CALLS.  THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH AND FILTER THROUGH OKAY THIS IS A PRIORITY 1 CALL.  LET'S SEND A DRONE TO THAT CALL TO SEE IF WE CAN GET REAL-TIME INFORMATION.  SO THAT

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DRONE CAN GET LAUNCHED AND THEY CAN CLICK ON THE ADDRESS OF WHERE IT'LL POP UP ON A MAP AND KIND OF LIKE AN OVERLAY MAP, THEY CAN CLICK ON THE ADDRESS AND THE DRONE CAN AFAWN TONMOUSLY TAKE -- AUTONOMOUSLY,

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TAKE OFF AND FLY WITH THE CAMERA FACING THE LUHUERIZEP.  THEY CAN EITHER HOVER THERE AUTONOMOUSLY OR THE PILOT CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THE DRONE AND LOOK AROUND AND THEN ADD REMARKS TO THE CALL. SO THAT THE OFFICERS HAVE IT AND DISPATCHERS ARE SEEING IT REAL-TIME.  DOES THAT ANSWER

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YOUR QUESTION? >> KIND OF.  I GUESS WOULD IT BE THE DISPATCHERS THAT ARE MAKING THAT DECISION OF I IT HITS PIECES 1 THROUGH 11 THE AUTHORIZED USES?  IS IT DISPATCH OR MPD?  WHO WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUE. >> THAT WOULD -- I'M SORRY.

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THAT WOULD BE ON US, ON THE PILOTS, CORRECT. >> SO IF DISPATCH SEES IT COMING, THEY ARE SENDING OVER TO MPD HEY WE HAVE A, LET'S USE A CAR ACCIDENTS AND THEY SAY THIS IS GOOD -- WE HAVE A CAR ACCIDENT.  WE RECEIVED A CAR ACCIDENT.  GOES TO YOU ALL AS PILOTS TO THEN SAY HEY THIS IS

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AN AUTHORIZED USE, LET IT GO, OR IS DISPATCH KIND OF LETTING IT FLY? >>O, DISPATCH HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE DRONES AT ALL. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. SO IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY ON THE PILOTS.  AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S TRACKED THROUGH THAT TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD OF WHY

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THEY FLY AND THEN WE HAVE TO TRACK EVERYTHING THAT GOES TO THE BCA TO THE CHIEF, SO THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE IS THERE. >> OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PILOTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, THAT ARE DECIDING WHICH, WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZED USE OF 1 THROUGH 11. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

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>> BEFORE LAUNCHES UP AND FLIE OKAY.  AND THE REASON I'M ASKING, RIGHT, I THINK IT'S GREAT AND THERE IS A VERSION OF THIS, RIGHT, WHERE YOU KNOW LOOKING AT KIND OF THE WAYS THAT THIS COULD BE FLOWN, SORRY I'M JUST TRYING TO PUL PULL UP

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THE KIND OF USES THAT YOU ALL KIND OF LIST HERE, INCIDENTS WHERE A DRONE CAN RESPOND TO THESE THINGS, RIGHT?  SO LIKE LET'S SAY WE HAVE A, THE ONE THAT KIND OF FLAGGED FOR ME ARE KIND OF THE SUSPICIOUS PERSONS INCIDENTS.  I MEAN, BURGLARIES

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COULD ALSO BE IN THERE, PROBABLY NOT ROBBERIES BECAUSE THAT HAS AN ATTACHMENT TO VIOLENCE  A PERSON.  BUT SPECIFICALLY THE SUSPICIOUS PERSON AND BURGLARIES PIECE.  HAVING A HARDER TIME TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH 1 THROUGH

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11 HERE, RIGHT, LET'S JUST USE SUSPICIOUS PERSON, RIGHT?  THERE IS A SUSPICIOUS PERSON THAT YOU GET A CALL AND IT'S IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, RIGHT SO IT'S NOT A PUBLIC AREA, RIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT

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CALLED THAT IN OF THEIR PROPERTY BEFORE THESE THINGS GET LAUNCHED OFF?  LIKE I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE SUSPICIOUS PERSON HERE RIGHT OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NOT A MASSIVE THING UNDERNEATH THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS,. >> SURE. >> BUT I JUST THINK MAKING SURE

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AND I HAVEN'T SEEP THE MPD POLICYOON THIS YET EITHER, BUT THAT, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CALLS THAT COME IN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE IN ACCORDANCE AND COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH STATE LAW AND OUR POLICY AND I THINK WANTING TO TIGHTEN THIS DOW TOO

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AND THEN KIND OF LAST KIND OF QUESTION HERE, WITH THIS TRAINING THE 75-DAY TRIAL, ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE HAVING A LIST OF DATA, HEY, HERE IS EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS COMES

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OUT AND HERE IS HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO MAKE THE DECISION IF WE WANT TO EXPAND IT OUT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER.  WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE ALONG WITH THE TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN DATA ANALYTICS AND DASHBOARDS AND WE'LL BE TRACKING EVERYTHING. >> BEAUTIFUL.  THANK YOU.  AND

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THEN I FORGOT, HAD ONE MORE TOO. WHEN REC SERVICES FIRE, ET CETERA, ARE USING THESE DRONES, IS IT MPD PILOTS THAT ARE PILOTING THEM?  AND THEN

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FIRE, REC SERVICES ARE USING THEM FOR LIKE I GUESS SUBCONTRACTING FROM MPD?  USING YOUR SKILLS AS PILOTS. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER.  INITIALLY IT'LL BE JUST THE MPD PILOTS.  I COULD

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SEE YOU KNOW IN THE FUTURE HAVING YOU KNOW POSSIBLY EVEN CIVILIAN PILOTS, RIGHT? REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER STUFF WHERE YEAH YOU DO HAVE CIVILIANS FLYING THESE THINGS AGAIN LIKE SOME OF OUR PARTNER AGENCIES THAT'S WHAT NAY DO.  IT'S NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT.  IT'S

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USING EVERYBODY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, SOLVE CRIME ISSUES. >> YEAH AND I THINK THAT WAS THE OTHER KIND OF QUESTION I HAD THAT RAISES MORE MIGHT BE A THINK NAT PROBABLY HAVE TO CHAT THROUGH WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.  BUT THINKING THROUGH RIGHT, IF, IF RIGHT, USING AND

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OPERATING I THINK ARE PROBABLY DIFFERENT.  I KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFY THIS IN THE STATE STATUTE, BUT JUST WANTED, WOULD WANT TO BE SURE THAT IF WE ARE, IF MPD IS THE ONE PILOTING THESE AND OPERATING THEM, DOES THAT CONSTITUTE A

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LEVEL OF USE LIKE A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY USING THEM? ASK SAND SO RIGHT YOU COULD SEE IF REG SERVICES IS GOING TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT'S ACTUALLY MPD OPERATING THEM, DOES THAT CONSTITUTE USAGE SO WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT USN VIOLATION OF THIS EITHER SO I

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THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO THINK THROUGH WITH SOME OF THESE DEFINITIONS OF USE OR OPERATIONOON THERE TOO.  BUT APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, THANK YOU COMMANDER CAMPBELL AND

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COLLEAGUES FOR THE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.  I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.  THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT THE ACLU BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE TRACKING A LOT OF THIS WITH OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY.  WHAT ARE THEY

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SAYING ABOUT THIS SORT OF A PROGRAM? >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.  SO THE, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN DIRECTLY TO THE ACLU, BUT I DID LOOK AT THEIR POSITION, AND

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THEY, THEY, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE COMMUNITY CONSENT SO AGENCIES SHOULD SEEK APPROVAL FROM THEIR CITY'S COUNCILS BEFORE LAUNCHING ANY DFR PROGRAM, AND AS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REFERENCED, OUR NEXT STEP HERE IS TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION TO

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SET A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, AND TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT'S ONE PIECE COMMUNITY CONSENT. TRANSPARENCY, THE ACLU TALKS ABOUT REM AILINGSES AROUND TRANSPARENCY.  THEY PUBLISH THAT MEANS PUBLISHING DRONE FLIGHT DATA CAPABILITIES.  WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC

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DASHBOARD AND OVERSIGHT WHICH IS REQUIRING DRONE APPLICATIONS COMPLY WITH FAA RULES AND AS DIRECTOR CAMPBELL TALKED ABOUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.  SO AGAIN, ONE WHEN I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, THE ACLU HAS EXPRESSES CAUTIOUS SUPPORT FOR DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS.  AND THEIR

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RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE AGAIN COMMUNITY CONSENT, TRANSPARENCY, AND OVERSIGHT. >> SO WE'RE COVERING OUR BASES AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET WITH THE ACLU IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> YEAH, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON, I WANTED TO ASSURE YOU THAT THE NORTH SIDE IS

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OC OKAY WITH THIS FORM OF BIG BROTHER AS YOU CALLED IT. THIS WORK IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF YEARS AND YEARS OF WORK WITH MY CONSTITUENCY IN NORTH SIDE. Y SERVICES AND FOLKS TALK ABOUT

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ILLEGAL AUTO SHOPS AND DUMPING AND OUR POLICE RESPONSE TIMES. THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE WANT TO BE BETTER, AND THIS IS A TOOL WE CAN USE.  I KNOW IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY TECHNOLOGY IS CERTAINLY A BIG PROBLEM.  THERE WERE FOLKS WHO WERE TRYING TO

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GET RID OF SHOT SPOTTERS FOR A WHILE IN THE NORTH SIDE WAS UP IN ACTIONER BECAUSE THEY REALLY BELIEVE IN THE SHOT SPOTTER TECHNOLOGY IN THAT IT HELPS TO SAVE LIVES. NORTH SIDE WAS UP IN ACTIONER BECAUSE THEY

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I AM CERTAIN THERE ARE PEOPLEN THE NORTH SIDE THAT DON'T LIKE IT BUT I WILL SAY THIS WORK AND THIS INITIATIVE JUST LOOKING INTO THIS IS COMING OUT OF WHAT THE NORTH SIDE HAS ASKED ME TO DO, AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS.  THAT'S ALSO THE FOURTH PRECINCT, WHICH LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I GOT OUT OF THIS

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PRESENTATION IS THE P0 AND P1 CALL TIMES, AND LIKE HOW THE RESPONSE TIMES, HOW MANY FIRS OF ALL, CALLS THERE ARE JUST IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT, BUT COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THE RESPONSE TIME IS NOW VERSUS LIKE THE

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TIMES THAT THE DRONES WOULD BE ON SCENE? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, THROUGH MONDAY, MAY 11th, 2026, PRECINCT 4 PRIORITY 1 MEDIAN RESPONSE TIME IS SEVEN MINUTES AND 48 SECONDS.  NOTABLY MUCH

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FASTER THAN THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR WHICH IS 9 MINUTES 30 SECONDS.  DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES, IT DOES.  AND WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT SLIDE SAID FOR THE DRONE BEING ON SCENE?  WHAT WAS THAT RESPONSE TIME? >> THAT RESPONSE TIME TO PRIORITY 0 OR 1 CALLS WAS UNDER ROUGHLY TWO MINUTES. >> SO UNDER 2 MINUTES AND NOW

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WE'RE NOT, THE TRIAL IS NOT TO NOT SEND AN OFFICER OUT.  DURING THE TRIAL.  THE OFFICER WILL GO OUT.  BUT AT SOME POINT IT COULD GO FROM A 9-MINUTES LAST YEAR, 7 MINUTES THIS YEAR, BUT DOWN TO A 2-MINUTE RESPONSE TIME TO OVER

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33,000 CALLS IN JUST PRECINCT ONE?  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT IS AWESOME.  AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION HAD WAS AROUND OVERTIME.  THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND HOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON OFFICERS JUST WONDERING IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO POTENTIALLY

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LOWERING OVERTIME AND LIKE HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD POSSIBLY HELP US THERE.  72 THROUGH THE. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.  I MEAN FROM EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH OTHER CITIES, OVERTIME COSTS HAVE DAWN GOWN WITH THE -- DOWN WITH THE USE OF THE DRONES T. HELPS US WITH CLEARING UP

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CALLS FOR OFFICERS.  IT CLEARS CALLS FASTER, IT ALLOWS OFFICERS, IT FREES UP THEIR TIME TO HANDLE THEIR CALLS AND GET OUT OF WORK ON TIME POSSIBLY. SO. >> SO IF I LOOKED FURTHER, THERE IS DATA THAT SHOWS THAT OVERTIME, LIKE THE USE OF

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OVERTIME SHIFTS IN THESE AREAS WHERE THERE IS THESE SORT OF PROGRAMS. >> CORRECT.  YEAH.  OVERTIME WILL GO DOWN. >> AND THANK YOU. AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, THE COST IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE FOR ME TOO, BUT I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTS THAT FAR YET.  THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS REALLY

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ABOUT THE PILOT TO SEE IF IT CAN BE USED BEFORE WE GET TO A PLACE OF COST.  I THINK IT WOULD DO US A DIS-S DISSERVICE IF WE START EXPLORING THE ISAND NOT EVEN KNOWING IF IT'S GOING TO BE USEFUL, AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO

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BE HAPPENING ON THE NORT SIDE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M THE PERSON LEADING THIS.  IT'S BECAUSE THE DATA SHOWS THINGS ARE HAPPENING ON THE NORTH SIDE.  THERE IS ANOTHER WARD SHOWING IT'S HAPPENING TOO, BUT I THINK THAT IT JUST, IT JUST SHOWS STRONGLY THAT IT'S HAPPENING ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE THINGS THAT I'M TRYING

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TO WORK ON, SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE ARE USING THE NORTH SIDE AS A PLACE TO PILOT THIS PROGRAM, AND OF COURSE IF IT WORKS OUT, I WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FUND IT THAT MAY BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CURRENT BUDGET THAT MAY BE A COLLABORATION OF EVERYONE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW IT CAN BE USED AND

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HOW IT TOUCHES THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BEFORE WE GET TO THAT.  AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DASHBOARD.  SO THAT IS LIKE A, YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON THIS ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE, GO ONTO THE

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DASHBOARD, HOW SOON DO YOU THINK THE FLIGHTS WOULD BE ON THE DASHBOARD ONCE WE START TO BUILD UP THE PROGRAM? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, VERY GOOD QUESTION.  WE COULD HAVE THOSE FLIGHTS PUT ON THERE PROBABLY WITHIN 24 HOURS OR UNDER 24 HOURS OF THE FLIGHTS ACTUALLY

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BEING FLOWN. >> OKAY.  SO THAT IS AN ACTUAL THING.  NOT IN REAL-TIME. YOU'RE FOUGHT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO -- FOUGHT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO ON THERE, WATCH THE DR DRONE FLYING ON PENN AND LOWRY. >> IT'LL BE A LEATER THING WHERE YOU CAN GO AND CHECK THE FLIGHT THAT IT WAS SOMEWHERE.

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>> CORRECT, CORRECT. >> OKAY.  ALL RIGHT.  I GOT IT. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS REALLY ABOUT THE 9-1-1 RESPONSE. IT IS, IT IS A 9-1-1 CALL THAT COMES IN, THIS PILOT WILL BE TRIGGERED BY 9-1-1 CALLS, THIS IS NOT LIKE A SOMEONE HAS A

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WARRANT FOR SOMETHING.  BECAUSE WE USE DRONES ALREADY IN MINNEAPOLIS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THIS IS MORE OF A 9-1-1 TRIGGERED THING.  SO IF SOMEONE CALLED AND SAID SOMEONE'S DUMPING OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH OUT THERE, THEY CALL 9-1-1, THEY SAY

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SOMEONE'S DUMPING AND I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND TAKE A PHOTO OF THE CAR, I'M AFRAID.  WE COULD DEPLOY THE DRONE THROUGH THE 9-1-1 CALL TO THE SITE WHERE THE DUMPING IS HAPPENING.  IS THAT HOW THIS WOULD WORK? >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, THAT'S CORRECT.  AND

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HOPEFULLY I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPLANATION FOR EVERYBODY HERE ON HOW THIS WORKS WITH INTO THE 9-1-1 CENTER.  AND WITH TRACKG SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON THE CALLS.  THE CALLS WILL CONTINUE TO COME INTO THE 9-1-1, BE PUT INTO OUR CAD

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SYSTEM THE WAY THAT WE ALWAYS DO IT FOR NO MATTER WHO WE SENT, WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHETHER IT'S POLICE OFFICERS, SO WE WILL STILL BE DOING THE SAME PROCESS AT 9- 1-1.  WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE DRONE, THE PEOPLE

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WHO ARE FLYING THE DRONES WILL BE SITTING RIGHT DOWN AT THE END OF THE DISPATCH CENTER AND PART OF WHY WE DECIDED TO DO THAT IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE PILOT PROGRAM AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.  TY WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND DECIDE OKAY THIS IS A GOOD CALL FOR U TO GO OUT

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WITH THE DRONE.  THAT CALL WILL STAY LIVE AND ACTIVE.  SO WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT CALL IN THERE DURING THIS TRIAL PERIOD. THE DRONE WILL GO OUT THERE, LOOK AT IT, MAKE ANY OF THE NOTES INTO THE CAD SYSTEM THAT APPLY TO WHAT WE SAW WITH THE DRONE, AND THEN WE'LL STILL SEND

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A POLICE OFFICER AND CLOSE IT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH ALL OF THAT DATA THEN AND BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, OKAY, THIS IS HOW FAST WE COULD'VE CLOSED THAT CALL, HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITH THE DRONE OR THIS IS HOW FAST WE COULD'VE GOTTEN THE INFORMATION ON WE SAW THE PERSON

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OUT THERE DUMPING THE TRASH NOW. THEY WEREN'T GONE ALREADY BECAUSE THE 9-1-1 PHONE CALL JUST CAME IN.  AND WE COULDN'T GET AN OFFICER THERE FOR 10 MINUTES.  72 RIGHT OR TWO HOURS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.  I

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MEAN, THE BIG ISSUE WITH THE DUMPING IS THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB TRYING TO REPORT IT, THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING PIECES OF MAIL, THEY HAVE BEEN RECORDING LICENSE PLATES BUT IF A PERSON COMES TO DISPUTE IT WITHOUT PROOF WHICH THESE DRONES CAN PROVIDE REAL-TIME PROOF, THAT HELPS US. LIKE PEOPLE GET CITATIONS AND

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ALL THESE THINGS, BUT IF THEY COME DISPUTE IT, THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO SAY, NO YOU WERE THERE.  I MEAN, NO -- THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T GOING TO SHOW UP IN COURT AND SAY, NO, I'M IDENTIFYING THE PERSON.  SO THESE DRONES COULD HELP US IN REAL-TIME, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS LIKE THE SNOW REMOVAL

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STUFF.  ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS IS LIKE PEOPLE NOT MOVING THEIR CARSR YOU KNOW WE GOT A HUGE STREET CLEARING, AND THERE'S FIVE CARS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND WE DON'T GET TO REMOVE THE SNOW FROM THE ENTIRE STREET SO I DON'T THINK, I MEAN,

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AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T THINK THE PILOT IS ABOUT REPRIMANDING PEOPLE FOR SNOW REMOVAL.  IT'S REALLY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO CLEAR UP THOSE LIVEABILITY ISSUES LIKE MAKING SURE THE STREET BECAUSE 9-1-1 GETS THOSE CALLS EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T ANSWER THEM, YOU GET THE

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CALLS FROM PEOPLE SAYING MY NEIGHBOR'S N MOVING THEIR CARS FROM OUT OF THE STREET AND TODAY IS PLOW DAY. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER, THAT IS CORRECT.  THIS WILL GIVE US SOME REAL TIME INFORMATION AND EVEN WITH THOSE CALLS THAT THEY DO COME INTO THE 9-1-1

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CENTER, WE'RE STILL SENDING THEM OVER TO TRAFFIC CONTROL.  AND STILL HAVING TO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL GO OVER THERE SO THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BE A TIME SAVER AND THAT'S WHERE YOU ASKED ABOUT THE OVERTIME COST AND SOME OF THIS.  THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE A TIME SAVER FOR MANY OF THE DERTMENTS IF WE CAN SAY OKAY

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THAT VEHICLE THAT WE WERE GOING TO SEND AN OFFICER OUT TO IS NOW GONE, NOW WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THAT EXTRA TIME TO SEND AN OFFICER TO THAT CALL.  THEY CAN FECES ON CLEARING UP -- FOCUS ON CLEARING UP THE PRIORITY CALLS THAT ARE SITTING OUT THERE AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HELP

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CONTRIBUTE TO AND THIS WILL BE ALL PART OF THE DATA WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER BUT WE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO WE WON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF CALLS HANGING THERE FOR OFFICERS TO GO TO WHEN THESE CONTINUE TO CLEAR. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

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>>> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.  JUST WANT WANTED TO CLARIFY ABOUT THE SNOW EMERGENCY.  IT'S NOT ABOUT PEOPLE CALLING SAYING MY NEIGHBOR DID NOT MOVE.  IT'S ABOUT JUST BEFORE WE ARE ENFORCE, WE FLY THE DRONE TO GET

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AN AERIAL MAP OF THE CITY AND AREAS THAT ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE SO WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND GO TO THOSE AREAS AND MAYBE TAG AND TOW BECAUSE SOME STREETS ARE KIND OF NARROW, SO KIND OF PRIORITIZING WHICH ONESEED MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY VERSUS MY NEIGHBOR IS NOT MOVING, WE STILL WANT PEOPLE TO CALL THOSE CALLS

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THROUGH 3-1-1. >> OR MAYBE WE CAN WARN PEOPLE TO MOVE THEIR CARS BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE WAY. >> YES. >> YES. >> I LIKE THAT BETTER. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. >>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.  JUST A COUPLE OF REAL QUICK QUESTIONS.

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NUMBER 1, COMMANDER, SO VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.  BUT LIKE WITH ALL NEW IDEAS WE HAVE NEW QUESTIONS, AND I CAN REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRIVACY CONCERNS. BUT WHAT EXPERIENCE HAVE THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAD

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OPERATING WITH THESE STATE REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE PRIVACY CONCERNS? ARE THEY WORKING?  HAVE PEOPLE FILED COMPLAINTS IN DULUTH OR MINNETONKA?  DO YOU KNOW? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, I AM UNAWARE OF ANY.  IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I COULD LOOK INTO AND

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GET YOU SOME ANSWERS ON THAT. BUT. >> I'M NOT -- I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S CONCERNS.  IT WOULD BE GREATO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. >> OKAY. >> SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I

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JUST HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU OR FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS IN MY WARD, THERE IS A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH KIDS, YOU KNOW, URBAN BURGLARS, URBAN EXPLORERS, THAT CLIMB UP ON THESE HIGH RISES AND THEY

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TAKE PICTURES OF THEMSELVES ANDION SOONER OR LATER ONE'S GOING TO FALL.  WOULD THAT BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UTILIZING THAT?  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZING THAT?  I JUST GOT A

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CALL YESTERDAY FROM ANOTHER INCIDENT BUT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THIS COULD HELP WITH AND. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, I BELIEVE IT COULD BE A COMBO.  IF IT'S A TRESPASSING ISSUE, I KNOW IT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE OVER IN

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YOUR WARD IN THE PAST, SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD SEND OUT AND CHECK AN AREA TO SEE THAT IF THERE IS ANY URBAN EXPLORERS DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY SULDN'T BE DOING.  I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN OBCALLS WHERE SOMEBODY HAD FALLEN IN ONE

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OF THOSE LITTLE GRAIN ELEVATORS AND DIED FROM DOING THE URBAN EXPLORING. >> SURE, SURE. >> THANK YOU.  AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> OKAY. >>> WELCOME. >>> ASSISTANT CHF, HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> GOOD. >> SAY, JUST CURIOUS, SO YOU

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THINK THESE WILL BE HELPFUL? YOU HAVE A FIRE, YOU WANT TO SEE THE ROOF CONDITIONS SO NOTHING FALLS  ON ONE OF YOUR FIREFIGHTFIGHTERS.  HOW DOES HEAT PLAY INTO THIS FOR THE DRONE OPERATOR?  CAN YOU FLY OVER IT?  IS IT HEAT RESISTANT

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OR?  OR MAYBE IT'S A POLICE QUESTION.  I DON'T KNOW. >> THREW THE CHAIR -- THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, I'M NOT SURE ON THE TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES OR HOW HIGH ABOVE IT IT WOULD BE.  I AM AWARE OF BEING ABLE TO USE THERMAL IMAGING TECHNOLOGY TO STAY HIGH ENOUGH WHERE YOU CAN

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LOOK DOWN THOUGH. >> OKAY, I JUST DON'T WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET MAD AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY WRECKED ONE OF THEIR DROUGHNS. >> NOT WORRIED OUTED -- DRONES. >> NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY.  THANK YOU. >> WELCOME.

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>> THANK YOU.  CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCILMEMBER.  PERHAPS I CAN HELP A LITTLE BIT TOO ON SOME OF THESE CALLS WITH POLICE AND FIRE RESPONSE JOINTLY.  EVEN THOUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE FLYING THESE DRONES DOWN THERE AND MECC, WHENEVER THERE'S A LARGE FIRE EVENT, AND A LOT

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GOING ON OUT THERE, ONE OF THE FIRE BATTALION CHIEFS COMES DOWN AND WORKS IN THE 9-1-1 CENTER. SO THEY'RE SITTING RIGHT THERE DURING THE ACTIVE LARGE EVENT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, AND IT'S VERY EASY FOR THEIR COMMUNICATION AND THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE POLICE

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DEPARTMENT TO BE JOINT, EITHER THROUGH US OR JUST WALKING ACROSS THE ROOM AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER. >> GREAT.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. >> THAT'S ALL, CHAIR. >> GREAT.  THANK YOU.  IT SEEMS LIKE NO ONE ELSE IS ON QUEUE.

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SO SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO FILE THAT REPORT.  AND SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US, I WILL DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.