[ GAVEL ]. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JASON CHAVEZ AND I'M THE CHA OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 19, 2025. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL
MEMBERS, STAFF AND THE PLIC THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATE BROADCASTS INCLUDE REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF
OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL THE SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR SPEECH. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO VERIF THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> PRESENT. >> WONSLEY. >>RESENT. >> RAINVILLE AND ABSENT. VETAW. >> PRESENT. >> OSMAN. >> PRESENT. >> CASHMAN IS ABSENT. JENKINS.
>> PRESENT. >> CHUGHTAI. >> PRESENT. >> KOSKI IS ABSENT. PALMISANO. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. >> PRESENT. >> AND CHAIR CHAV. >> PRESENT. >> THERE ARE NINE MEMBERS PRESENT. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE QUORUM. TODAY WE'LL BEGIN
WITH REPORTS OF THE STANDING COMMITTEES BEFORE WE TE UP OUR AGENDA. WE'LL FIRST TAKE UP ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD 19 ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A
GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE BIG TY'S HEALTH COALITION REGISTRATION LODGING, INCIDENTALS, AIRFARE, MEALS. TWO
IS LODGING FOR CINDY WECKWERTH. THREE IS -- FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE SHAREDSE MOBILITY CENTER OF REGISTRATION,
TRAVEL, MEALS, AND LODGING FOR MAX GONZALEZ. FIVE IS MPFA GRANT FOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. SIX IS COMBINED SEWER OVERFLOWS
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SEVEN IS CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR SENIOR SERVICES AND SENIOR COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR SERVICES. EIGHT IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH GEOGRAPHIC
SOFTWARE SPECIALIST INC. FOR AUTOMATION SERVICES. NINE IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH VINCO INC. 10 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH AXON ENTERPRISE INC. FOR UPGRADING HELMET CAMERAS FOR THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT. 11 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH GRANICUS INC. 12 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH MEYER CONTRACTING INC. FOR THE 2ND STREET NORTH SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. 1 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH MICHELS TRENCHLESS INC. 14 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH MULTIPLE
ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE 2025 GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION. 15 IS CONTRACTMENDMENTS WITH MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS FOR 2025 YOUTH GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION SERVICES. 16 IS LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SABAT .
SABATHANNI. -- 19 IS CONTRACT WITH MULTIPLE LAW FIRMS FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR TOTAL BUDGETED AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2.4 MILLION. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THA YOU. I'M GOING TO LOOK IF ANYBODY IS ON QUEUE. WITH THAT, THE NEXT COMMITTEE IS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIRED B VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION WHICH IS ADOPTING
FINDINGS AND APPROVING THE ESTABLISHMENT AND SALARY SCHEDULE FOR ANPPOINTED POSITION IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OF DIRECTOR LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH AND OVERSIGHT. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS THE
BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WILL BERINGING SEVEN ITEMS TO THE COUNCIL. ITEM ONE IS APPROVING BOND. TWO DENYING
AN APPEAL SUBMITTED BY MOLLY REICHERT. -- FOUR APPROVING GAMBLING LICENSE. -- SIX IS
ACCEPTING A GRANT FROM MINNESOTA STATE PRESERVATION FOR THE CONFERENCE NEXT JULY. ITEM 7 IS -- PROPERTY AT 1501 JOHNSON STREET NORTHEAST. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK U, MR. CHAIR. CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS
BRINGING FORWARD THREE ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION ADOPTING AND LEVYING THE ASSESSMENTS FOR SIDEWALK REPAIR AND CONSTRUCTION. ITEM 2 IS APPROVING NE BOONE FOR
APPOINTMENT TO SEAT 6. AND ITEM 3 IS -- I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. LASTLY, WE HAVE
THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. >> THE FIRST ITEM IS PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE FEES FOR CITY OWNED RESOURCE TWO IS AUTHORIZING A GRANT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITY, AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO THE
HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THREE IS AUTHORIZING A JOINT POWS AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF MINNESOTA FOR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, RESPONSE, AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FO ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. AND NO ONE ELSE IS
ON QUEUE. WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE DO HE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA. >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD A RESOLUTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU IN THE RCA TT'S BEFORE YOU
TO THE END OF OUR BUSINESS TODAY. AND I WILL ASK FOR A FORMAL SECOND TO MY MOTION. SECOND. >> THERE HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AND I WANT TO SEE IF COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO SAVE THAT FOR THE DEBATE
AT THE END. >> MR. CHAIR, APOLOGIES FOR INTERRUPTI. BUT MAYBE FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, MAYBE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE AUTHOR TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THAT IS. >> THANK YOU. >> HAPPY TO DO SO. IT IS A
RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE REALLOCATION OF $117,000 JUST ABOUT OF COMMUNITY TRAUMA RESPONSE SERVICES TO BE EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED TO CURRENT CONTRACTORS WHO ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE SERVICES THROUGH AUGUST 31ST. SO CONTRACTS THAT
HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED FOR COMMUNITY TRAUMA RESPONSE SERVICES. HOPING TO TAKE THIS ITEM AFTER ITEM 2 IN OUR DISCUSSION DEPENDING ON THE RESULT OF THAT. IT WILL INFORM
THE VOTE AND CONTEXT ON THE RESOLUTION HERE FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY. >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? AND THAT IS GOING
TO BE A PART OF OUR AGENDA. WITH THAT, WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND IT IS RELATED TO OUR COUNCIL STANDING COMMITTEES AND ITS MEMBERSHIP. REVISE MEMBERSHIPS AND QUORUMS.
DIRECTING THE CLERK TO UPDATE RULES PURSUANT TO THESE AMENDMENTS. WITH THAT, IL FIRST PASS IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NO ONE SPOKE WITH ME ABOUT THIS, SO AM I UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON WILL
NO LONGER BE SERVING ON ANY COUNCIL COMMITTEES? >> AND I CAN GIVE OUR CLERK CARL TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THANKS FOR THOSE QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. CASEY CARL. PRILEGE OF SERVING AS THE CITY
CLERK. THROUGH THE CHAIR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS DISPOSED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY HE IS PURSUING THAT REQUIRES HIS PRESENCE AWAY FROM THE CITY, AND THEREFORE, THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PREPARED WOULD REMOVE HIS PARTICIPATION
AS A MEMBER OF STANDING COMMITTEES. BUTHAT HE RETAINS HIS FORMAL RESPONSIBILITS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WILL BE VOTING AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. AS
YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES ARE THE WORKHORSES OF OUR CITY UNCIL. I'M PLEASED TO HEAR HE WILL BE EXPECTED AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. BUT I HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS AND CAN'T SUPPORT IT TODAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. ACTUALLY, I WAS JUMPING IN QUEUE TO SHARE WHAT CLERK CARL SHARED. BUT I'LL ALSO JUST REMIND FOLKS AT THE END OF THE TERM LAST YEAR WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION. TOWARDS THE END OF TT TERM AS HIS
CAREER TOOK ON A NEW TRAJECTORY, HE KIND OF HAD A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT. THIS IS JUST A TECHNICAL TO HELP US MANAGE QUORUM ON COMMITTEES WITH THAT ABSENT. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> OH. MY TURN. THANK YOU.
FIRST, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING IN THIS WAY. I KNOW WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER LIKE FIVE MONTH -- WHAT MONTH ARE WE IN? WHATEVER. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT
HAPPEN. SECONDLY, BHZ AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARE EXTREMELY IMPORNT TO THE NORTHSIDE. WITHOUT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON -- THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE ONLY NORTHSIDE COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE. THAT'S NOT FAIR. HERE WE GO. ANOTHER MOMENT TO
DISENFRANCHISE THE NORTHSIDE. IT'S NOT OKAY TO JUST TAKE -- I GET IT. HE'S GOT OTHER OBLIGATIONS. BUT TO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THAT THERE'S NO ONE ON THE NORTHSIDE REPRESENTING THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT COMMITTEES ON THIS COUNCIL IS JUST ABSURD. I'M
NOT UNDERSTANDING WHO MADE THIS DECISION AND HOW WITHOUT EN TALKING TO THE NORTHSIDE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I MEAN, HOW DO I GO BACK TO MY COMMUNITY AND SAY TO THEM MATTERS AND BHZ -- AT LEAST WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON HERE, I GET TO SAY THIS WAS A
DECISION HE MADE. THERE'S NO REPRESENTATION WHATSOEVER ON THE TWO LARGEST COMMITTEES I SEE. THE TWO THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT TO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. LIKE WHOSE IDEA IS THIS? WHO CAME UP WITH
THIS AS AN ALTERNATIVE? AND WHY WASN'T I CONSULTED? WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THIS? WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY? I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS COUNCIL CONSTANTLY TALKS ABOUT
HOW NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IS DISENFRANCHISED. ALL THE PEOPLE OF COLOR, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE USED TO BEING TREATED LIKE HAPPENING FROM THIS VERY COUNCIL THAT SAYS THEY'RE HERE TO PROTECT THAT. I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS DECISION AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES DON'T ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR THEM JUST ONCE AGAIN. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK Y SO MUCH. AS THE BHZ CHAIR, BHZ AS WE KNOW IS A VERY, VERY BUSY COMMITTEE. WE GET
HUNDREDS OF ITEMS EVERY FEW CYCLES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON PLAYED A HUGE ROLE AS VICE CHAIR. HE WAS REALLY SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ON BHZ FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.ND HE WILL BE MISSED. BUT THE WORK HAVE TO
GO ON. AND WE NEED TO KEEP DECORUM. WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY TAKE HIS PLACE. I'M NOT SURE IF CASEY CARL IS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL
MEMBER ELLISON HAS SERVED OUR CITY FOR A LONG TIME. WE'RE SUPER THANKFUL FOR THAT. BUT AS BHZ AIR, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FULL MEMBERS DURING THE MEETING. >> IT'S NOT FULL.
>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'LL MAYBE TAKE A STAB AT ANSWERING OR ADDRESSING WHAT I THINK WAS A COMMENT ABOUT COMMITTEE SIZE. AND I'LL START BYAYING ALTHOUGH COMMITTEE SIZES OF COUNCIL HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN SIX MEMBERS PER COMMITTEE, OTHER THAN THOSE THAT HAVE 13 MEMBERS,
THAT'S NOT A FORMULAHAT'S REQUIRED ANYWHERE. IT'S JUST BEEN WHAT HAS BEEN. COUNCIL PRESIDENT MENTIONED THAT IN THE PREVIOUS TERM THERE WAS A MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, WHO LEFT IN PART EARLIER BEFORE HIS TERM ENDED TO PURE A NEW OPPORTUNITY IN HIS PRIVATE
CAREER. THAT'S TRUE. AND IN A SIMILAR WAY, AT THAT TIME THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVEFORWARD. IN THE END, WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE SHUFFLED MEMBERS AROUND IN ORD TO COVER A VACANCY THAT REQUIRED A LOT OF
EXTRA WORK. WHEN THIS CAME UP, I POINTED OUT TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT THERE ARE LITERALLY SEVEN CYCLE MEETINGS. THERE'S NOTHING MAGICAL HAVING SIX. IF WE REDUCE IT TO HAVE, THE QUORUM REDUCES TO THREE. ALL DECISIONS HAVE TO BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR THE COUNCIL'S VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON WILL BE ON THE DAIS AT COUNCIL. AND IT'S HIS OBLIGATION TO PREPARE AND REVIEW THE COMMITTEE REPORTS IN ADVANCE OF THAT, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT HE WOULD DO THAT THE EASY WAY IS TO SIMPLY REMOVE HIM FROM THE COMMITTEE H
SITS ON NOW. ALLOW THE QUORUM TO BE REDUCED BY ONE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEMBERS WHO ARE ALREADY WELL VERSED IN THE BUSINESS OF THOSE COMMITTEES AS THEY CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS TERM SO THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT COUNCIL
ADERSHIP, AND THAT RESULTED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU. CERTAINLY, IF THE BODY WISHES TO TAKE THE TIME TO FILL THOSE I THINK THREE SEATS ON THREE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES OR TWO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERLLISON HOLDS ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY, AND ON THE BHZ HOUSING AND INSPECTIONS, THAT IS THE BODY'S DECISION TO MAKE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AS THE BHZ CHAIR, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TAKE CNCIL MEMBER
ELLISON'S POSITION. I UNDERSTAND HOW THE QUORUM WORKS AND THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. BUT IT WOULD BE SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT COMMITTEE. AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY F THE COUNCIL LEADERSHIP OR AS A COUNCIL BODY TO NOMINE
SOMEONE, I'M READY FOR IT. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. >> THANK YOU. I TOO WAS NOT INFORMED OF THIS AHEAD OF TIME. MY OPINION DOESN'T MATTER BUT
I'M GOING TO GIVE IT ANY WAY. FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO TELL THE TRUTH. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON LEFT, THERE WAS AN ELECTION. THE RESIDENTS OF THAT WARD HAD REPRESENTATION VERY QUICKLY. RIGHT NOW THE RESIDENTS OF WARD 5 WILL NOT HAVE REPRESENTATION UNDER THESE TWO COMMITTEES. THAT'S JUST NOT
RIGHT. YOU'RE HURTI THE RESIDENTS OF WARD 5. I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS. IN THE PAST, WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE IS APPOINT SOMEONE IN THAT TEMPORARY SPOT TO SERVE THE COUNCIL POSITION. THAT'S WHAT THAT LEADERSHIP SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TODAY. NOT
THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO JUST JAM THIS DOWN OUR THROATS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> I'M NOT OKAY WITH US CHOOSING EASY OVER EQUITABLE. AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE THE CLERK JUST SAID TO US. THE EASY THING TO DO
WAS THIS WAY. FOR ME, NORTHSIDE REPRESENTATIVE, THE EQUITABLE THING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION WHERE THE NORTHSIDE IS REPRESENTED. THIS IS NOT OKAY. COLLEAGUES, THIS AIN'T IT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS. WE
DESERVE REPRESENTATION ON THESE COMMITTEES. I SIT ON AO, AND I'M FINE WITH TH. LIKE I'M REPRESENTING NORTHSIDE ON AO. BUT THESE OTHER TWO COMMITTEES THAT IS NOT OKAY. NO DECISION SHOULD HAV BEEN MADE IN THIS
WAY WOULT WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THAT. WE CANNOT BE LEFT BEHIND LIKE THIS. COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, SHAME ON YOU F NOT TALKING TO NORTHSIDEERS ABOUT THIS AND FIXING THIS BEFORE THIS DECISION WAS PUT BEFORE OUR FAC TODAY.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE TO FORWARD THIS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON ACTUALLY HERE BECAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT THIS EITHER.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> COUNCIL VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHOWURY. >> YEAH. I'LL JUST NOTE LIKE THE ONLY CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HAD WASOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THE VICE CHAIR POSITION BECAUSEOU'VE BEEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU'RE ON THE
COMMITTEE. AND I'M LIKE, YUP, THAT WORKS FOR ME. I SAW THIS ON AGENDA SETTING, AND THEN BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE, AND I THINK LIKE I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN COMMITTEE. WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT SAID AND DONE. I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS FOR US TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SECONDING THIS FORWARDING WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. IT GIVES US ALL SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, AND I THINK WE JUST ALL HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LEAN IN AND PROACTIVELY REACH OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. BECAUSE IT IS THREE COMMITTEE
SPOTS. AND ALSO FOR WHOEVER IS TO TAKE IT, APPOINTING NEW COUNCIL MBERS TO EACH COMMITTEE, IT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL WORK. AND THAT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY WE NEED TO MAKE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF US KIND OF THINKING THROUGH WHAT OUR STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT'S BEST FOR US TOET OUR WORK DONE IN THESE LAST SEVEN CYCLES. ALSOEEPING IN MIND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY VERY, VERY INTENSE BUDGET SEASON
TOO. SO WE'RE ALL JUST GOING TO BE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AT CITY HALL IT SOUNDS LIKE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. YEAH, AS THE CLERK SAID WE HAD A VERY BRIEF CONSULTATION ON THIS. I PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWED THE
ERK. BUT I'M HAPPY TO FORWARD THIS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I'VE EN ENTERTAINED HOLDING THIS FOR A CYCLE SO WE CAN HAVE FURTHER IN DEPTH DISCUSSION AND NOT HAVE IT BE RUSHED. >> I AGREE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TOO TOMORROW. WHAT'S TODAY? ONE DAY
IS N GOING TO BE HELPFUL. SO WE NEED TO HOLD THIS OVER A CYCLE, PLEASE. >> CAN THE CLERKS HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER COUNCIL CASHMAN JUST MADE ONE? COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, IF YOU WOULD. >> I'M FIND WITH AMENDING MY
MOTION TO DELAY THE CYCLE. >> GREAT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE IS TO MOVE TO THE NEXT COMMITTEOF THE WHOLE MEETING WHICH WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> COULD WE GET A DATE ON WHEN THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING IS?
>> OH RIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE -- >> BECAUSE WE HAVE AWARD WEEK. >> SEPTEMBER 9TH IS THE DATE OF THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. >> SO BEING DELAYED TO THE NEXT SEPTEMBER 9TH COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION -- OH, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER
RAINVILLE, AND THEN OH, ARE WE GOOD? ARE WE GOOD TO TAKE A VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVORN THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, WHICH I SEPTEMBER 9TH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY
ABSTENTIONS? THAT MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, THE NEXT ITEM I WILL PASS IT TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, WHICH IS THE POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, AND I MIGHT EVEN PHONE A FRIEND WITH THE CITY AORNEY HERE. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I OPENED THIS AT THE BENNING OF THE TERM WITH SPECIFIC INTENTION OF STRENGTHENING THE ORDINANCE WITH IGNMENT WITH THE CHANGES AT
THE STATE LEGISLATURE. WE LEARNED THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN CONSTRAINTS WITHIN OUR CRTER THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM STRENGTHENING THIS ORDINANCE IN THAT ALIGNMENT. HOWEVER, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SESSIONS I HELD IN COMMUNITY. CONVERSATIONS I HELD WITH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE
CHAIR OF THE CCPO, CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH OTHER COMMISSIONSERS. CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. CONVERSATIONS WITH E CITY ATTORNEY THAT HAS LED TO THE COLLECTION OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU. THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENTS ARE
UNDERLINED. AFTER WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD ONE CYCLE, WE GOT SOMEFEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AMENDMENT. AND THEN AS YOU RECALL, WE HELD THIS ONE MORE CYCLE BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM OUR OUTGOING
CIVIL RIGHTS DIRECTOR AS WELL AS SOME OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY SUGGESTIONS. AND THOSE ARE REFLECTED IN GREEN. THE SPECIFICS THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT,
FOR INSTANCE, ARE IN SECTION 172.30/7C -- JUST C. OKAY. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE PUT REQUIREMENTS ON THE CHIEF TO NOTIFY IN WRITING
WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE CCPO WHY THEY DIVERGED FROM DISCIPLINE RECOMMENDATI. BUT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT STARTED TO BUD UP AGAINST T CITY CHARTER. THIS
LANGUAGE IS TO AT LEAST CAPTURE THAT NEED TO REPORT OUT THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A DIVERSION FROM WHAT THE PANEL HAD RECOMMENDED AS AN EXAMPLE. ANOTHER SUBSTANTIVE ONE, THIS IS LARGELY IN CONSULTATN WITH OUR
CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS THE REDUCTION OF THE PANEL FROM FIV AGAIN, ONE OF THE UNDERLINED AMENDMENTS TT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT FORWARD WAS THE EXPANSION OF THE CCPO TO INCLU A NUMBER OF SEATS SPECIFICALLY FOR PANELISTS SO THAT WE COULD
WORK THROUGH THAT BACKLOG. THIS IS ALSO HELPING US WORK THROUGH THAT BACKLOG BY MAKING IT MORE LOGISTICALLY, PRACTICAL TO BRING A PANEL TOGETHER BY MAKING THIS CHANGE, AND THIS WAS BY RECOMMENDATION OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AND THE REST OF THESE AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE
FAMILIAR FROM THE LAST COUPLE CYCLES. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD ADD THAT I MISSED >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, NO, I THINK THAT YOU COVERED THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE OF NOTE.
>> OKAY. SO WHAT I LEARNED THROUGH THIS EXERCISE IS THAT FOR US TO REALLY STRENGTHEN CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, THERE ARE CERTAIN CONSTRAINTS THAT WE ARE BOUND TO WITHIN THE CHARTER THAT ARE SOMEWHAT OF A BARRI TO
BEING ABLE TO FULLY IMPLEMENT STRONGER CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT WITHIN THE POLE DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU RECALL SEVERAL WEEKS BACK A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SIGNED ON TO A LETTER. THIS IS SHORTLY AFTER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WITHDREW THE
CONSENT DECREE. WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO ARTICULATE FOR US TO REALLY TRU IMPLEMENT REFORM IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A WHOLE CITY APPROACH. AND THAT WHOLE CITY APPROACH IS GOING TO REQUIRE COLLABORATION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT MEETING. I
HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THE MAYOR. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT COLLABORATION, AND THE CITY ATTOEY. WHAT TYPES OF AMENDMENTS WOULD WE WANT TO CONSIDER FOR THE CHARTER TO REALLY STRENGTHEN OUR
ACCOUNTABILITY FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT WE NEE TO BE UNDERBOUNDED BY THE CHARTER AS WE PURSUE DABLE POLICE REFORM IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND SO THAT IS WORK TO COME. THIS AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU WAS MY BEST EFFORT AT STRENGTHENING OUR
CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT WITHIN THE ISTING CONSTRAINTS OF THE CHARTER. GOING FURTHER IS GOING TO REALLYEQUIRE US DOING SOME DEEPER WORK ON CITY CHARTER. AND EVEN GOING TO THE STATE CAPITOL AND LOBBYING AS NEEDED THINKING
ABOUT A HOLISTIC FRAMEWORKS IT CONCERNS THE POLICE. THAT IS MY LITTLE INTRO INTO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN ON QUEUE. >> THANK Y, CHAIR CHAVEZ. WARD 7 HAS A NEW CCPO COMMISSIONER,
CHRISAKER WHO HAS JOINED AND HAS HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH ME ABOUT THE WAY THE CCPO, THE WAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED IS A LITTLE MISLEADING TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE AUTHORITY THE WAY IT CLAIMS IT
HAS. THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO ADDRESS. LIKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT THEY RECEIVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO ADDRESS. I HAVE ASKED IF WE COULD REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR FROM HIM. BUT WERE TOO LATE ON. I'M GOING TO RE. I'M CHRIS BAKER,
CCPO COMMISSIONER. MY COMMENTS ARE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A NEW MEMBER AND I HAVE A FEW OBSERVIONS. THE ACTUAL AUTHORITY OF THE CCPO IS NARROW, MUCH NARROW THAN THE -- WE MAY CONTRIBUTE TO THE POLICE CHIEF
PERFORMANCE REVIEW. WE START EACH MEETING WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. NEARLY ALL OUR AREAS OUTSIDE OF OUR AUTHORITY. WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY STAFF THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL THEM WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THEIR COMMENT. EXAMPLES
CLUDE PRECINCT STAFFING LEVELS, FORCE TRAINERS. -- THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO STATE THEIR CONCERNS IN PERSON NOT JUST BY EMAIL, AND INSTEAD WE LET THEM MAKE COMMENTS TO THE BODY THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT. OUR ROLE IS MERELY
ADVISORY. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THOUGH IN PRACTICE, THEY DO RESPOND TO OURS. WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO EVERY COMMENT WE RECEIVE. IT
SEEMS LIKE MPD SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO SIMILARLY RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. LASTLY, AT OUR LAST MEETING WE WERE INFORMED THAT WE COULD NOT RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT. AND THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE LIMITED TO PVATE INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS BY
COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMISSIONER BARNETT. IF W ARE THE BODY BUT ARE BARRED FROM SEEKING THAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? IN MINNEAPOLIS, WE DO NOT HAVE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT OVER THE POLICE. TH POLICE CHIEF AND MPD AT LARGE ANSWER ONLY TO THE
MAYOR. IT IS COMPLETELY MISLEADING TO US. IF WE WANT CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT, WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION. -- SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE'S WRITTEN HERE. BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO SHARE
HIS COMMENTS FOR US BECAUSE I THINK I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CCPO IS ABLE TO TRULY WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES. AND SO IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
ABOUT THE CHIEF'S PERFORMANCE REVIEW, AND THE PROCESS FOR THE REVIEW OF THE POLICE CHIEF, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THE CCPO ON THAT. D I WOULD ASK EITHER PRESIDENT PAYNE OR CITY ATTOEY ANDERSON COULD ANSWER THAT FOR US. >> SO THESE COMMENTS HIT THE
NAIL ON THE HEAD. SO ESSENTIALLY, NO MATTER WHAT WE PUT IN ORDINANCE, THE SOLE AUTHORITY OF HOLDING THE CHIEF ACCOUNTABLE LIES WITH THE MAYOR. AND THAT IS BY CHARTER. SO NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE ORDINANCE WILL EVER CHANGE
THAT. THE CCPO CAN CONTRIBUTE COMMENTS. THOSE COMMENTS ARE WORTH WHATEVER THEAYOR CONSIDERS THEM WORTH. THE MAYOR'SOLE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF OAKLAND
RECENTLY AMENDED THEIR CHARTER TO ALLOW THEIR CIVILIAN REVIEW AUTHORITY TO FIRE THE CHIEF. AND TO DO FINDINGS OF FACT SO THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT WITH JUST CAUSE, BUT THEY WITH A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONER VOTES FINDING OF JUST CAUSE, THEY CAN FIRE THE
CHIEF. THAT'S AN AUTHORITY THAT WAS ENSHRINED WITHIN THEIR CITY CHARTER. THEY'RE 20 YEARS INTO THE FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE AND THEY'RE LEARNING THEY NEED TO ENABLE -- THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY UNDER THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF
OUR CITY CHARTER. AND THE REAL WORK THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF US IS AMENDING THAT CITYHARTER TO PUT IN THE TYPES OF ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISMS THAT ALW FOR THAT TRUE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTALITY. AND THAT MEANS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT
JUST TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT TO THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS THROH THE MAYOR. AND THE ONLY WAY THE PUBLIC CAN INFLUENCE THAT IS THROUGH THEIR VOTE FOR MAYOR. SO IF WE WANT SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT, WE' GOING TO HAVE TO
AMEND OUR CHARTER. AND I'M STARTING THAT CONVERSATION PROCESS WITH THE CITATTORNEY, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUEION I HAVE IS WHETHER THE CCPO GETS INFORMED OF MPD POLICY CHANGES
OR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THEM. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, SO I BELIEVE THAT THE -- SO THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WEIGH I ON POLICY. IN FACT, IN THE ORDINANCE I THINK IT'S
EXPLICITLY STATED. THEY HAVE A POLICY REVIEW SUB-COMMITTEE THAT MEETS TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES, PARTICULARLY THE NEW ONES THAT ARE BEING PROSED THROUGH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS. SO TY DO GIVE COMMENT
DELIVERED, YOU KNOW, BY THE BODY ON THOSE POLICIES. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM MPD ABOUT WHAT'S BEING CHANGED AND WHAT'S NOT BEING CHANGED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING THAT DIRECTLY AS
THE BODY. I KNOW MPD IS GENERALLY COMMUNICATING PUBLICLY. THEY GET FEEDBACK NOT JUST FROM THE CCPO BUT THE COMMUNITY AT LGE AND ARE SYPHONING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND HAVING A REALLY GOOD SORT OF TRACK LIST OF
WHAT'S BEEN ACCEPTED AND WHAT'S NOT BEEN ACCEPTED. I BELIEVE THAT'S PUBLICLY PUBLISHED. >> OKAY. GOT IT. PRESIDENT PAYNE. >> I WOULD ADD ON I BELI SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES THAT PROCESS. WHATEVER POLICY CHANGES THAT THEY PROPOD ARE
SUPPOSED TO GO TO THEIR PUBLIC WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND REVIEW. OBVIOUSLY CCPO IS PUBLIC AND COULD SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT. MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT FORMALLY PROVIDING THAT THAT MPD
WOULD TAKE THAT COMMENT AS EVEN MORE SERUSLY THAN THE PUBLIC. BUT THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS SUCH THAT MPD HAS TO PUBLICIZE THEIR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, RECEIVE COMMENT BEFORE THEY IMPLEMENT THEM. >> OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THESE
REVIEW PANELS AND HAVING SWORN OFFICERS SERVE ON THEM. BECAUSE I SEE THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED HERE IS THE RATIO AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THE REVIEW PANELS. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO INTEGRATE THEIR --
WITHOUT DIRECTLY INCLUDING SWORN OFFICERS ON THE REVIEW PANEL. ESPECIALLY GIVEN STAFFING CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE HAVING AND POTENTIAL FOR RETALIATION THAT MIGHT OCCUR FROM SOMEONE IN THE DEPARTMENT SERVING ON THIS REVIEW PANEL.
>> SO COUNCIL MEMBER CASHN, SO ESSENTIALLY, THE RATIO --INCE THIS ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, SO POST THE PCOC, BUT ONCE WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THE CCPO, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A RATIO OF MORE CIVILIANS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS. SO THE W THAT THIS AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT STATED TO AVOID THE BACKLOG A KIND OF GET THESE REVIEW PANELS MOVING, THE RATIO HAS NOW BEEN, IT'S A
THREE-PERSON BODY WITH O SWORN OFFICER AND TWO CIVILIANS. SO WE ALWAYS HAD THE SITUATION WRE THE CIVILIAN VOICE IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OUTWEIGHS THE NUMBER OF W ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THAT'S SORT OF BEEN EVEN WHEN WE WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS WH MDHR. KIND
OF THAT MORE CIVILIANS WITH RATIO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT STILL HAVING A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THAT PROFESSIONAL, YOU KNOW, EXPEENCE AND EXPERTISE ON POLICING. YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT VOICE ON REVIEW PANEL WAS
IMPORTANT BUT ALWAYS BEING OUTNUMBERED BY THE CILIANS. >> MM-HMM. YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT OFESSIONAL EXPERTISE COULD COME FROM MEMBERS OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK BUT ARE NOT SWORN OFFICERS THAT WE ALL WANT OUT
SOLVING CRIMES AND RESPONDING TO CRIMES. >> SO THE COMPOSITION OF THE REVIEW PANEL, IT'S LIEUTENANTS AND HIGHER. IT'S NOT BEAT COPS
OUT ON THE STREET. IT'S HIGHER RANKING FOLKS. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OF HAVG OTHER PROFESSIONALS IN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY SERVE ON THE PANELS INSTEAD OF SWORN OFFICERS? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> OKAY. LAST QUESTION I'LL ASK
IS ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE MEMBERS WHO ARE BEING ADDED TO SERVE A CIVILIAN REVIEWERS. THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK ABOUT THE PROCESS TO RECRUIT THESE CIVILIAN MEMBERS OF THE PANELS
AND WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN? WILL IT HAPPEN WITHIN OUR ABC RECRUITMENT TIMELINE OR BE EXPEDITED. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, GOOD QUESTION. THE DINANCE REQUIRES THE USE
OF THE OPEN APPOINTMENTS PROCESS. SO ONCE PASSED BY COUNCIL AS FINAL FORM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE WILL OPEN UP A CRUITMENT PERIOD FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL SEATS AND THEN MERGE THAT INTO THE REGULAR APPOINTMENT CYCLE AFTER THE INITIAL SET OF APPOINTMENTS ARE
MADE. THERE WOULD BE AN INITIAL RECRUITMENT PROCESS TO FILL THOSE NEW SEATSS IT WERE, THE ALTERNATIVE SEATS. IT WOULD BE FACED INTO THE -- >> THANK YOU. AND WILL THESE CIVILIANS ALSO BE PAID FOR THEIR TIME ON THE PANELS?
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL DRAFT, BUT I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY SAYS MEMBERS ARE PAID FOR ANY OF THEIR OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MEETINGS AND TRAININGS. THE ATTORNEY CAN SPEAK TO MORE SPECIFICS. >> CITY ATTORNEY.
>> YES, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YES, THERE'S A PAYMENT FOR SITTING ON REVIEW PANELS. AND BELIEVE THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE MADE TO THIS VERSION IS PER CASE. SOME OF THESE CASES ARE VERY, VERY LARGE I VOLUME. IT MAY BE
THAT YOU GET TO MORE THAN ONE CASE IN ONE, YOU KNOW, SITTING OF A REVIEW PANEL. BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE CASE FILES. SO RATHER THAN $50 PER REVIEW PANEL SESSION, IT'S NOW $50 PER CASE. >> OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. >> WHICH WAS A CHANGE TO WHAT
THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST SAID IN CASE THAT WASN' CLEAR. THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE SAID THERE WAS A PAYMENT MADE FOR REVIEW PANEL.ND SO ONE REVIEW PANEL COULD HAVE DONE FOUR, FIVE DIFF SEEN AS AN ISSUE OF FAIRNESS FOR
MEMBERS WHO WERE PROCESSING GREATER LOADS. SO I THINKHE REVISED ORDINANCE SAYS IT'S PER CASE AND NOT PER REVIEW PANEL. >> GOT IT. THANKS. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO -- YEAH, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON IT. I JUST WANTED
TO JUST REALLY EMPHASIZE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM CHRIS AND FROM OTHERS THA THE CCPO DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOES. AND THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT AND WORK TO FIND MORE WAYS TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE OVERSIGHT THROUGH THIS BODY A A
CITY COUNCIL OR THROUGH THE CCPO AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A TION? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE
ORDINANCE AS AMENDED. >> AND SE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE AYES HAVE IT
AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. NOW COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING TO ASK US TO TAKE A RECESS. WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH CAPTIONING. AND HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE RESOLVE IN THREE TO FIVE MINUTES. -- I'LL RECESS UNTIL THE CALL OF THE
CHAIR. WITHOUT OBJECTION.