>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS AISHA CHUGHTAI AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR ADJOURNED COMMITTEE MEETING FOR FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5TH. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO
OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE BROADCASTS INCLUDE REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF
THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTNERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS. WE ASK SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE.
>> PRESENT. >> WONSLEY. >> PRESENT. >> RAINVILLE. >> PRESENT. >> VETAW. >> PRENT. >> ELLISON IS ABSENT. OSMAN IS ABSENT. CASHMAN. >> PRESENT.
>> JENKINS ABSENT. PALMISANO. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> PRESENT. >> THAT'S 10 MEMBERS PRESENT. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. I WILL ALSO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE WILL BE USING SPEAKER MANAGEMENT TODAY SO PLEASE MAKE SURE TO
SIGN IN. LET ME DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. TODAY, WE WILL BEGIN CONSIDERING REVISIONS TO MAYOR FREY'S 2026 RECOMNDED BUDGET. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS THIS COMMITTEE HAS RECEIVED A SERIES OF PRESENTIONS TO
EXAMINE THE DETAILS OF EACH DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET REQUESTS. THIS COMMITTEE HAS HELD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS BUDGET. AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HOSTING THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING THIS UPCOMING TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9TH AT 6:05 P.M. IN
THESE CHAMBERS. I WANT TO START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS I INTEND TO FOLLOW FOR THIS MEETING. THE AMENDMENTS ARE ORDERED IN A PACKET THAT WAS SENT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND POSTED IN LIMS. THERE ARE 38 AMENDMENTS IN THIS PACKET. AND
WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ONE BY ONE. REVISED AMENDMENTS ARE PRINTED ON YELLOW PAPER IN THE BINDERS. ANY ADDITIONAL REVISIONS WILL COME TO YOU ON YELLOW SHEETS OF
PAPER AS WELL. AS I ANCIPATE, WE WILL BE WORKING ON AMENDMENTS ALL DAY. CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED AMEMENTS AND THE DESIRE FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS IN
THE BODY TO TRY TO MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS AS WE CAN TODAY, AND POTENTIALLY COMPLETE THIS PACKET. I AM GOING TO PLAN TO CALL BRIEF RECESSES THROUGHOUT THE DAY INSTEAD OF DOING A LONGER LUNCH BREAK. SO PLEASE
FLAG FOR ME. YOU CAN DO THAT BY SENDING ME A TEAMS MESSAGE WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME FOR BRIEF RECESS. AND SO THAT WILL HELP US GET THROUGH AS MUCH OF THE WORK THAT WE CAN TODAY. WE
HAVE A HARD STOP TODAY AT 5:00. BECAUSE THAT IS -- WE DON'T HAVE CAPTIONERS AFTER THAT. SO LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH AS MUCH AS WE CAN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL MARK-UP MEETINGS
THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY. AND WE WILL CANCEL THOSE IF WE GET THROUGH OUR WORK OR WE'LL PICK THIS BACK UP ON MONDAY. AS WE WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET TODAY, PLEASE REMEMBER TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER AND OF THIS PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY,
PLEASEAKE SURE YOU'RE SIGNED INTO SPEAKER MANAGEMENT SO THAT YOU'RE NOT ASKING YOUR NEIGHBOR TO LOG IN FOR YOU. TO ENSURE WE HAVE ACCURATE TIME TRACKING, WE WILL BE STICKING TO OUR COUNCIL RULES. EACH MEMBER ON EACH MOTION HAS UP TO TWO SPEECHES. THE FIRST SPEECH IS SEVEN
MINUTES. AND THE SECOND SPEECH IS FE MINUTES. WE WANT BE TO ABLE TO TRACK YOUR TIME APPROPRIATELY. DO MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS I'VE OUTLINED? I AM NOT SEEING ANY. WITH THAT, WE WILL
BEGIN THE AMENDMENT PACKET THAT IS IN FRONT OF US. I WILL RECOGNIZE THE AUTHOR OF EACH AMENDMENT TO INTRODUCE THEIR MOTION. AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS BEFORE TAKING A VOTE. STAFF FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE IS ON HAND TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE DURING OUR
DISCUSSION, AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENTS WHOSE BUDGETS ARE BEG CONSIDERED FOR CHANGES. WITH THAT, AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ALWAYS BROUGHT FORWARD BY FINANCE STAFF FOR ANY REVISIONS
THAT ARE NEEDED. I'M GOING TO ASK BUDGET DIRECTOR JAYNE DISCENZA TO COME UP AND BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IN THE TECHNICALS. WELCOME, DIRECTOR. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBERS. JAYNE DISCENZA,
BUDGET DIRECTOR FINANCE AND PROPERTY SERVICES. AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS FILE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHANGES THOUGH FEWER THAN PRIOR YEARS. AND LARGELY, THESE ARE JUST CORRECTIONS TO THE LOW LEVEL DEPARTMENTS THAT WE INITIALLY PLACED THESE DOLLARS
INTO FOR THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN ITEMS A THROUGH D, REFERENCE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, AND IT'S A CORRECTION OF WHICH CPED LOW LEVEL DEPARTMENT IS
RECEIVING THOSE DOLLARS. SIMILAR SITUATION FOR HEALTH AS WELL AS BUDGET NEUTRAL SHIFT OF PERSONNEL DOLLARS, NON-PERSONNEL DOLLARS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 2, AN AGGREGATE
TABLE THAT SHOWS THE IMPACT OF THESE CHANGES. SO EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES TIE OUT EVENLY. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M NOT SEEING ANY. I'LL MOVE THIS ITEM
FOR APPROVAL. CAN I GET A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE AYES HAVE IT AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE TO AMENDMENT 2
WHICH IS THE MAYOR'S AMENDMENTS. I WILL AGAIN RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR DISCENZA TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. ITEM 2 IS A RECOGNITION OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE
CAPITAL BUDGET. SO THIS IS AN INCREASE IN BOTH REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE TO THE 00 STREET FUND, THE STREET PAVING CAPITAL PROGRAM. WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL GRANT DOLLARS FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. S
IT DIDN'T REPRESENT AN ERROR. BUT WE JUST HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT RECEIVING FROM MNDOT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AS
DIRECTOR DISCENZA SAID, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE LESS THAN HALF THE NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS TO CONSIDER THIS YEAR, WE ONLY GOT ABOUT 48 HOURS TO REVIEW AND RESEARCH THESE AMENDMENTS. AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG LIFT. I PREVIOUSLY ASKED AND WILL CONTINUE TO D SO THAT WE GET
THIS INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. MAYBE A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE SO WE CAN ALL BE PREPARED. AS I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO APPROPRIATELY PREPARE, I WILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHORS AND FOR STAFF AS WE GO ON. BUT EVEN MORE CONCERNING THAN THAT,
WE ONLY RECEIVED A MANAGEMENT RESPONSE THAT I JUST OPENED, BUT WE RECEIVED ITIKE 15 MINUTES AGO. SO I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO READ THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COO WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT PAUSE AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED HERE IF THERE ARE ANY TAKEAWAYS FROM
THAT. BEUSE THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO AND DIG INTO THAT NOW. I AM AWARE THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE WORKED TOGETHER AND HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT INVITED INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE ARE AT A VERY
SERIOUS DISADVANTAGE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOUR QSTION RELATES TO THE AMENDMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF US. WHICH IS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ITEM 2,
RIGHT? THE MAYOR'S AMENDMENTS IN GENERAL. I ACTUALLY WAS IN QUEUE BACK IN ITEM NUMBER ONE. AND IT WAS JUST ABOUT IN GENERAL AS WE START, SO YES, IT APPLIES TO THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS, BUT IT COULD ALSO APPLY TO THE MAYOR'S AMENDMENT. I'M STILL IN QUEUE FROM BEFORE.
>> GOTCHA. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. I WILL FIRST APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATENESS OF THIS. THE RESPONSES ARE
WRITTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DRAFTING OF THE AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH THE CHAIR AND WITH HER STAFF TO REVISE AMENDMENTS. I THINK YOU WILL BE SEEING SOME OF THOSE REVISED AMENDMENTS. MANY OF THEM WOULD
BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION UNDER A FULL AGREEMENT. HOWEVER, AT THIS MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT FULL AGREEMENT. >> SO MADAM CHAIR, COO ANDERSON KELLIHER, IS IT REASONABLE TO
EXPECT THAT THOSE WILL BE FLAGGED FOR US? I SEE THEY'LL BE IN YELLOW IN OUR PACKETS. BUT WHEN THERE IS A MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE FLAGGED FOR US SO I CAN GO IN AND DIG THROUGH THAT PACKET BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT PACKET. ARE
THERE ANY -- I MEAN, I GET THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ONGOING AND INTO LAST NIT, PERHAPS THIS MORNING. BUT WHERE ARE WE AT ON THEM FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE? >>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL
MEMBER PALMISANO, WITH THE HELP OF THE CHAIR, HER EXCELLENT STAFF, KAI, SHELLY, WE HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS. BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO WORK OUT. THERE'S A VERY PROBLEMATIC AMENDMENT I
WILL SPEAK TO WHEN IT IS OFFERED. AND CERTAINLY, WE WOULD, AND THE MAYOR MOST PREFERS TO HAVE A SIGNED BUDGET WITH THE COUNCIL WITH ITEMS WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN 2026. RIGHT NOW
WE'RE NOT THERE. >> I SEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, THIS ANSWERS ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS? WONDERFUL. I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAYOR'S AMENDMENTS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE MAYOR AMENDMENT WHICH IS ABOUT A GRANT
THAT WE RECEIVED FROM MNDOT? I'M NOT SEEING ANY, SO I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. CAN I GET A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED S NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE AYES HAVE IT AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL
NOW MOVE TO AMENDMENT 3. THIS AMENDMENT IN YOUR PACKET IS IN THE -- IN YELLOW. THIS IS A VE REVISED VERSION OF AN AMENDMENT. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WITHOUT
EXCEPTION EVERY SINGLE REVISED AMENDMENT THAT YOU S HERE IS A PRODUCT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. AND THEY ARE A -- THIS SYMBOLIZES THE
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROGRESS WE ACTUALLY HAVE MADE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. SO THIS AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. WHO I DON'T SEE HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER AMENDMENT NUMBER 3. AND COME BACK TO IT. WE'RE GOING
TO NOW MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT 4, WHICH IS ALSO REVISED. FOR THIS, I'M GOING TO ROGNIZE THE AUTHOR, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW TO PLEASE PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE YOUR MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO AMENDMENT 4 COMES OUT OF MANY CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING
HERE. AND ACTUALLY, CONVERSATIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. GET TO SIT ON THE BOARD OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS WITH UTILITIES. AND I'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS THAT FUNDING FOR THESE
SORT OF ORGANIZATIONS HAS BEEN LACKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO THIS AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO SET ASIDE $150,000 FROM THE FRANCHISE FEE, AND THEN
$50,000 ONGOING TO SERVE AS A WAY TO HELP RESIDENTS WITH UTILI UTILITIES. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. BUT I THOUGHT WE CAME TO A NCLUSION,
THOUGH, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE CONTINGENT ON THE ACTION THAT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK. BUT AS I READ THIS, IT'S SAYING THAT IT'S CONTINGENT ON THE ACTION THAT'S HAPPENING THIS WEEK. >> GOTCHA. THE GOAL WAS TO USE
RESOURCES FROM THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE THAT WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY STAFF POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDE THROUGH CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED. SO OF THE NEW
REVENUE THAT COULD BE GENERATED BY AN INCREASE TO FRANCHISE FEES, $200,000 OF THAT ONE 51 TIME, AND 50 ONGOING WOULD BE SET FOR -- >> YES, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK WHERE THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF
DISCONNECT IS IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ORDINANCE IS, LIKE, THAT CHANGE IS GOING. SO IF THAT DOESN'T PASS OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THAT, THEN THIS WHOLE THING IS A WASH BASED ON THIS. >> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> SO THAT IS THE CONVERSATION I
THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN HAVING WAS LIKE WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE TO IT BEING TIED TO THIS FRANCHISE FEE. >> I THINK LET'S CONSIDER THE
ITEM AS IT'S WRITTEN AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE OUR BUDGET STAFF TAKE A LOOK -- WORK WITH ADMIN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXISTS IN THE
BASE APPROPRIATION FROM CLITE INITIATIVE AND FRANCHISE FEES FOR 2026, THAT 10 MILLION BASE. AND WHERE THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT MAY ACCOMMODATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW IS SAYING RIGHT NOW. SO THAT HER AMENDMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONTINGENT.
IF WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING LIK THAT OUT, THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO IT AT THE END OF THE PACKET AND MAKE A REVISION.IGHT NOW I THINK YOUR AMENDMENT, WE SHOULD JUST CONSIDER IT THAT WAY IN CASEHAT DOESN'T WORK OUT, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING DONE. IS THAT OKAY? >> YES, IT IS. THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT. ANY ADDITION. >> COLLEAGUES, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT ON THIS. THIS IS REALLY GOING TO GET TO WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. RESIDENTS HAVE INCREASED UTILITY BILLS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP ON UTILITY SUPPORT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS FUNDING AND ONGOING FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT COST TO RESIDENTS. >> WONDERFUL. WILL YOU MAKE A TION? >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >> WONDERFUL. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION. ANY
OTHER DISCUSSION? RIGHT BEFORE THAT, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED IN THIS MEETING BY COUNCIL MEMBERS OSMAN AND JENKINS. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT ON AMENDMENT 6, WE DO HAVE
CONTINGENCY LANGGE. AND SO IN CASE THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO WORK THIS INTO THE EXISTING $10 MILLION ALLOCATION IN CLI, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO WRITE A CONTINGENCY CLAUSE THAT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT IT
SAYS ON BUDGET AMENDMENT 6 THAT SAYS IT'S CONTINGENT ON THE ADOPTION OF THE GAS FRANCHISE FEE, ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEE ORDINANCES THAT WE'LL BE CONSIDERING NEXT THURSDAY. IF THAT FIRST PLAN DOESN'T WORK OUT, THERE'S A BACKUP PLAN.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERCASHMAN, THAT'S HOW THE AMENDMENT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. >> NUMBER 4? GREAT. AWEME. >> THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >>PALMISANO.
>> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHT. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 12 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE GOING TO RETURN BACK UP TO AMENDMENT 3 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
OSMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, WILL YOU PLEASE PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. THIS ANDMENT PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH ZERO WASTE PROJECT MANAGER FULL-TIME WITHIN PUBLIC
WORKS TO LEAD AND COORDINATE AND ADVANCE THE CITY COMMUNITY DRIVEN ZERO WASTE PROGRAM. THIS POSITION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE BUILDING A SHARED AND EQUITABLE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS PUBLIC HEALTH,
ADVANCES ENVIRONMENT JUSTICE, AND SUPPORTS THE CITY IN MEETING THE STATE GOAL 5% RECYCLING RATE BY 2030. TT'S ONE PART OF IT. THE SECOND PART IS REQUESTING
PROPOSAL BUDGET 25% ONGOING FUNDING TO SUPPORT ZERO WASTE WORK GROUP. THIS WORK GROUP WILL SERVE AS A CENTRAL COMMUNITY ROOTED STRUCTURE RESPONSIBLE FOR STRENGTHENING THE CITY'S ZERO
WASTE STRATEGIES. I WILL MOVE THIS AMENDMENT FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU MUCH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPE MOTION BEFORE US. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL RECOGNIZE
COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THESE ARE COMMENTS FOR THE AUTHORS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING TOWARDS ZERO WASTE. IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS THAT WE CAN REDUCE AND
POTENTIALLY CLOSE THE HERC. BUT I'M CURIOUS WHY THIS FUNDING IS FROM SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING AND NOT THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY FUNDING FOR THIS IN THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE. I WASN'T EVEN SURE, THOUGH I
ASSUME THIS HAS GONE THROUGH APPROPRIATE LEGA REVIEW THAT THIS IS EVEN AN APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING FUNDS. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR DECISIONS AS TO WHY YOU'RE PULLING THIS MONEY DIRECTLY FROM SOLID WASTE? >> I'M SO SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER
OSMAN, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> I GUESS IT IS TO THE EXTENT OF IS THIS AN ALLOWABLE USE OF REVENUE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING
CUSTOMERS TO USE IT FOR THIS PURPOSE. >> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE THINK IT IS A LEGITIMATE USE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SET UP IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY. >> THANK YOU. I'M CURIOUS FROM THE AUTHOR'S PERSPECTIVE, AND I
KNOW HE JUST GOT HERE, I WANT TO GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO GET SETTLED AS TO WHY WE'RE PULLING THIS MONEY FROM RECYCLING INSTEAD OF CLI. >> JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THIS IS THE DECISION I MADE. AND THE
DECISION THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT. >> OKAY. I MEAN THAT'S NOT SUPER HELPFUL. THIS ISN'T A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY WITHIN A LARGE BUDGET. BUT I MEAN THERE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTS TO THE
SERVICES BY ANY APPROPRIATION. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE SERVICE WORKERS RUNNING ROUTES BUT HAVING THE ADMISTRATION SUPPORT TO ORGANIZE AND BE SUCCESSFUL. I'M SURE ALL OF US HAVE GOTTEN CALLS TO OUR OFFICES WHEN A PICK UP IS MISSEDR THERE'S SOME SORT OF LARGE OR
UNUSUAL ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO ASK TO COME BACK TO NORMAL WEEKLY SCHEDULING GET. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD AND WHAT THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT OUR PAID CITY STAFF COULDN'T. LIKE WHAT
RESULTS ARE EXPECTED WITH A $2,025,000 -- $25,000 THAT ARE NOT EXPECTED FROM OUR CITY STAFF. THIS IS A TIER 4 TYPE OF BODY THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT
WE DO. AND YOU'RE GOI TO FUND I IT. WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THIS WORK GROUP, THE $25,000, AND WHAT'S THE END DATE.
>> LOOK AT THE PACKET AND THAT SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE DETAIL THAN IS IN THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES WORK GUP THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE. >> THANK YOU. AND MADAM CHAIR, I
THINK MY POINT HERE IS I DO THINK OUR CITY STAFF COULD PROBABLY DO MORE WITH $25,000 WORTH OF FUNDING THAN A WORK GROUP THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THEIR WORK FORWARD FOR THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME.
THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT. THANK YOU. >> I SEEEPUTY COMMISSIONER HANLAN, OR I SEE DIRECTOR SEXTON. DO YOU WANT ANY -- >> I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE ALL ALL RIGHT WITH THIS. IT'S A FAIRLY SMALL APPROPRIATION. BUT THESE DO HAVE IMPACTS. >> YUP, ABSOLUTELY. I SEE A FEW
OTHER MEMBERS IN QUEUE. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I WANTED TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN IF I COULD BE MADE A CO-AUTHOR ON THIS AMENDMENT. >> HAPPY TO DO IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
IT. I DO THINK THAT WE'RE AT A BIT OF AN IMPASSE WHEN IT COMES TO PLANS TOLOSE THE HERC. AND WE REALLY NEED HELP FROM THE COMMUNITY IN GUIDING THAT PROCESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE A WORK GROUP OF EXPERTS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WORLD,
IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD, IN THE LEGAL SPHERE TO HELP US DEVISE STRATEGIES TO REALLY GET TO ZERO WASTE. AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT WE -- IT'S MY PRERENCE, AND YOU'LL SEE IN BUDGET AMENDMENT 6 THAT WE ALLOCATE ANY
NEW FUNDING THAT COMES FROM OUR FRANCHISE FEES DIRECTLY TOWARDS EFFORTS THAT LOWER ENERGY BILLS. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT THIS MONEY DIDN'T COME FROM MONEY GENERATED BY FRANCHISE FEES. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT OUR CLI IS TO BE DEDICATED COMPLETELY AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE TOWARDS EFFORTS THAT LOWER ENERGY BILLS. AND ZERO WASTE EFFORTS DO NOT LOWER ENERGY BILLS. SO I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE THAT WE APPROPRIATE THIS MONEY THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS SOLID WASTE BUDGET THAN TO BE TAKING FROM THE CLI. AND I WOULD LIKE TO
BE -- ANY NEW MEY THAT COMES INTO THE CLI GOING FORWARD, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE THAT IT IS DEDICATED TOWARDS WHAT YOU SEE IN BUDGET AMENDMENT 6 WHICH IS THE WEATHERIZATION AND RETROFITTING AND EFFORTS TO LOWER BILLS. SO THAT'S IN ANSWER
TO YOUR QUESTION ON THE CLI PORTION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR UGHTAI. I
SAY CHAIR CHUGHTAI FOR THI COMMITTEE? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS MOTION. I THINK THIS IS REALLY FORWARD LOOKING FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE ARE PLANNING ON CONTRACTS WITH OUR WASTE HAULERS. WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE HERC. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT FACILITY. AND I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU IF I COULD BE ADDED AS A CO-AUTHOR. >> I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
>> AMAZING. I JUST WANTED TO UPLIFT COUNCILEMBER CASHMAN'S POINT THAT IT'S HIGHLY, HIGHLY ITICAL THAT THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE BE USED TO BRING DOWN THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE USING SO WE CAN REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THEM. AND THAT'S LIKE A COMMITMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE TO YOU MOVING FORWARD ON THIS BOD THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR FOR NEW ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AND I ALSO
WANTED TO SAYHAT I THINK THE $25,000 ONGOING IS A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT TO START THESE CONVERSATIONS TO SUPPORT A FORM OF WORK GROUP. I DO THINK WE NEED TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY
AND EXPERT CAPACITY IN OUR CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE HOW WE'RE DOING ZERO WASTE WORK. BECAUSE I PERSONALLY FEE LIKE WE HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LATE TO THE GAME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CLOSURE OF THE HERC AND THE
CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE NOT THIS PREVIOUS SESSION BUT THE SESSION BEFORE THAT SO REALLY EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO GET
RECOGNIZED? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW.
>> AYE. OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 12 AYES.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION.
>> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. SO THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT RESTORES THE ALLOCATION MADE DURING THE BUDGET -- THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET ESSENTIALLY CUTS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT COUNCIL MADE TO PUBLIC WORKS TO
IMPLEMENT SEVERAL PILOTS TO IMPROVE WINTER WALKABILITY ON SIDEWALKS. PRIOR TO THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED CUTS, I LEARNED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THAT PUBLIC WORKS MADE AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET CUT TO THE PROGRAM INESPONSE TO BUDGET AMENDMENTS. THEY SHARE, AND BY THEY, THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD STILL
IMPLEMENT A SUCCESSFUL PILOT INITIATIVE EVEN THOUGH $200,000 OF IT WAS SHIFTED AWAY FROM THE PROGRAM. AND I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR IN DESPITE OF THE SIGNIFICANT CUT MADE THAT THE SCALE DOWN VERSION OF THE PILOTS WERE SUCCESSFUL AND
SIGNIFICANTLY HELPED THE PUBLIC. ACCORDING TO STAFF'S OWN REPORTS, THESE PILOTS WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT CLEARING SIDEWALKS OF OVER 17 MILES AND OVER 900 ADDRESSES. FEEDBACK THAT I HEARD AFTER THE PUBLIC WORKS
PRESENTATION ON 2024-2025 PILOT PROGRAM WAS THERE STILL SIGNIFICANT INTEREST AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING -- ORIGINAL APPROPRIATION WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE AREAS ESPECIALLY IN THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY NETWORK. IN 2024, IT
COSTS THE CITY NEARLY $7 MILLION TO CLEAR ROADWAYS. IF THE CITY IS ACTUALLY SERIOUS ABOUT INCREASING WINTER WALKABILITY, THEN WE MUST INVEST DOLRS TO GET SIDEWALKS CLEARED AS WELL. WE NEED TO BE SCALING UP DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND FULLY
RESTORE THIS ORIGINAL AMOUNT FOR SIDEWALK PLOWING PILOTS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW FAR THIS MONEY CAN GO AND ALLOW US TO HAVE ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW WE CAN BE STRATEGICALLY INVESTING IN WINTER WALKABILITY IN THE FUTURE. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE THIS MOTION FOR APPROVAL
AND ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> WONDERFUL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SIDEWALK PLOWING AMENDMENT? I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND I WANTED TO ASK THE AUTHOR WHICH
OF THE THREE PILOTS THIS WOULD GO TOWARDS OR IF IT WOULD GO TOWARDS ALL THREE PILOTS. >> IT GOES TOWARD ALL THREE PILOTS. >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS AT WHAT POINT DOES THIS BECOME A PROGRAM AND NOT A PILOT PROGRAM? IS
THERE A VISION MOVING INTO THIS IS A FORMAL OPERATIONAL PROGRAM BEING IMPLEMENTED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND NOT JUST BEING PILOTED. >> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT IS AN OPERATIONAL DECISION. ALL COUNCIL CAN DO BASED O OF FEEDBACK IN THE PAST FROM PMI,
THEY RECOGNI A WINDOW OF PILOT TESTING. WE ALLOCATED APPROPRIATION FOR TWO YEARS. THAT WAS CUT. SO AGAIN, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THE FULLY ROLL OUT OF THE PILOT ITSELF FOR THE FULL TWO YEARS. SO YOUR OTHER QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHEN WILL
IT TRANSCEND FROM PILOT INTO FULL ABSORPTION INTO GENERAL FUND AND GENERAL PROGRAMMING, THAT WILL BE DECIDED ONCE THE PILOT IS COMPLETE WHICH IT HAS NOT. >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHETHER ALL THREE PILOT PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN LIKE EQUALLY
SUCCESSFUL OR IF THERE IS ONE THAT REALLY STANDS OUT AS HAVING THE BEST IMPACT ON THE SAFETY OF OUR SIDEWALKS. >> YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, ONE, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN PITTING GOOD PROGRAMS AGAINST EACH OTHER AND YOU SIT ON THE
COMMITTEE WHERE PUBLIC WORKS LITERALLY DID A PRESENTATION ON THIS MATTER AND CITED THE OUTCOMES OF ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PILOT. THAT'S WHERE WE PUT INFORMATION FROM IN THE NARRATIVE PIECE. SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALL
ACRO THE CITY HAVE BEEN EAGER IN RECEIVING THESE SERVICES AND THEY WANT TO SEE MORE. THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THE RESTORATION. >> YEAH, I GUESS, AND I OBVIOUSLY CHAIR THE COMMITTEE WHERE WE HEARD THAT REPORT. BUT I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE PROGRAMMATIC PLAN FOR
INTEGRATING THIS. AND I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS TODAY. BUT IT'S MY PREFERENCE THAT WE IDENTIFY WHICH OF THE PILOTS HAS BEEN MOST SUCCESSL AND CONSOLIDATE THE RESOURCES INTO ONE THAT CAN DELIVER EVEN BIGGER IMPACT WITH
AN ECONOMY OF SCALE. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO DETERMINE IN THE ROLLOUT OF THIS MONEY. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, WE HAVE HEARD -- I HAVE HEARD OVER AND
OVER AGAIN FROM RESIDENTS THAT THEY WANT US TO FOCUS ON CORE CITY SERVICES. THIS ISN'T JUST RESIDENTS FROM MY WARD BUT ALL OVER THE CITY. AND ALSO FROM BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND VISITORS TOO. THIS APPROPRIATION COMES
DIRECTLY FROM THE SNOW AND ICE CONTROL BUDGET. WHAT IS MORE BASIC THAN REMOVING SNOW FROM OUR STREETS? I HAVE NOT SUPPORTED THIS IN THE PAST AND I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS NOW. AN APPROPRIATION OR AN EARMARK IS A
CUT. IT IS A CUT TO OTHER CITY SERVICES. A $600,000 APPROPRIATION WITHIN TMR WILL UNDOUBTEDLY MEAN -- FROM CORNER
CLEARAE, FROM PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, FROM OTHER THINGS. IT WILL MEAN A DECREASE IN STAFFING FROM TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SO MUCH SO THAT STAFF FROM OTHER PUBLIC WORKS DIVISIONS WILL HAVE TO HELP OUT IN EMERGENCIES IF THEY ARE
AVAILABLE. SO RUNNING A SNOW REMOVAL PROCESS ON HOPING ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE IS REALLY NOT T WAY TO DO THINGS. I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO CALL U DIRECTOR SEXTON FOR THIS ONE TO ASK HOW THIS WILL IMPACT COR CITY SERVICES. AS HE DOES, I
WILL OFFER THIS THAT LAST NIGHT THERE WAS AN EXISTING WATER MAIN BREAK IN MY WARD THAT IS CURRENTLY FLOODING A BRAND NEW E-LINE STATION DUE TO HAVE A GRAND OPENING. TMR WAS WHO THE
WATER DEPARTMENT WAS CALLING THIS MORNING. WE ALL HAVE THESE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN AS ONE-OFF NEEDS IN OUR WARD. AND WE DO NEED TMR STAFF TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO BE STAFFED UP AND TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN THESE KINDS OF, YOU KNOW,
UNFORESEEN ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN EVERY SINGLE DAY. DIRECTOR SEXTON, I'M CURIOUS EXACTLY HOW THIS APPROPRIATION WILL IMPACT CORE CITY SERVICES.
>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, YOU KNOW, THE PILOT WE'VE REALLY ONLY HAD JUST ON FALL-WINTER SNOW SEASON FOR THE PILOT. WHAT WE FOUND LAST YEAR WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
APPROACH WAS, MOST COST EFFECTIVE APPROACH WAS GIVING GRANTS -- HELP SUPPORT THEM THROUGH THE SIDEWALK CLEARING IN ADDITION TO THE WORK WE DO FOR CORNER AND INTERSECTION CLEARING ALREADY. YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE
IMPACTS TO SERVICES. SOME OF THIS WORK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ESMATING ABOUT THREE TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR STAFF WOULD NEED TO BE R DO THIS WORK THAT IS TYPICALLY DONE BY PROPERTY OWNERS OR
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS OR THEY CAN CONTRACT THIS OUT. SO LOSING THREE STAFF IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY THAT WOULD FURTHER REDUCE TRANSPORTATION, MAINTENANCE AND
REPAIR STAFF WOULD SLOW DOWN OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THINGS. LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP EMERGENCIES ALONG WITH DELAYING AND REDUCING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THINGS LIKE SNOW CLEARING IN THE NTER. I WILL SAY THAT OUR IDEA BEHIND THIS WOULD BE REALLOCATE
EXISTING STAFF VERSUS HIRING NEW BECAUSE THESE ARE PART-TIME POSITIONS, ONLY NEEDED IN THE WINTER. AND THAT MAKES IT FURTHER COMPLICATES THE SITUATION BECAUSE NOT ALL STAFF WANT TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK. SO
BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT A LITTLE HARD TO REALLOCATE FOLKS. BUT THAT'S OUR THOUGHT RIGHT NOW. IT'S HARD TO SAYPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT SERVICE LEVEL REDUCTION WOULD BE BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE WORKERS DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE WINTER THAT ALL RELATE TO SNOW CLEARING IN
DIFFERENT WAYS. >> MM-HMM. THANK YOU. THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY NETWORK, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S MOSTLY DOWNTOWN. IT CONSISTS OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNERS WHO TEND TO BE VERY COMPLIANT WITH SIDEWALK CLEARING RULES. IS THAT RIGHT? AM I WRONG?
>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 30 MILES OF PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY NETWORK AROUND THE CITY. WHILE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT SORT OF IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE AREA, IT DOES EXTEND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >> MM-HMM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. NEXT, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MY QUESTION WAS FOR DIRECTOR SEXTON. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD WHAT
YOU SAID CORRECTLY.AS IT THAT THE PROGRAM WITH THE SNOW PLOW REMOVAL, I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE IN WARD 4 WHO WORKS WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON HELPING WITH THE SENIORS OR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES GETTING THEIR SNOW REVED FOR HELP WITH YARD WORK
SOMETIMES IN THE FALL AND IN THE SPRING. BUT DID YOU SAY THAT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE WORKING BETTER LIKE WHEN YOU WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE THE REMOVAL THAN -- IS THAT WORKING, BASICALLY? >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL
MEMBER VETAW, WHAT WE FOUND WE'VE ONLY HAD O YEAR OF THE PILOT. SO I APPRECIATE THE EARLIER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PILOT AND WHEN IT BECOMES A FULL PROGRAM. BECAUSE OF LIMITED SNOW THE LAST TWO WINTERS I THINK REALLY LAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST FULL ROLLOUT. WHAT WE FOUND WAS
IT WAS VERY COST EFFECTIVE TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS TO GIVE THEM GRANTS. SORT OF LOW BURDEN GRANTS TO ISSUE TO NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS SO THEY COULD FIGURE OUT THE WAY TO CLEAR THE SNOW FOR NEIGHBORS, SEORS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND
OTHERS WHO STRUGGLE TO CLEAR THE SIDEWALKS. THE KNOW THEM. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED THEM WITH EQUIPMENT AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD USE THE GRANTS FOR. WE FOUND THAT WAS VERY COST EFFECTIVE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORKED WITH REALLY APPRECIATED THAT
BECAUSE IT FURTHER REINFORCED LIKE THE ROLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ADVANTAGE TO THAT AND WE FOUND IT WAS VERY COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFECTIVE OVERALL. WE ALSO DID SOME OF THE OTHER CLEARING WORK LAST YEAR IN A LIMITED SENSE. SO
THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY NETWORK ALONG WITH SOME SPOT CLEARING AROUND THE CITY FOR NEIGHBORS IN NEED. WHAT WE FOUND, THOUGH, WAS SOME OF THAT HAD TO BE DONE BY CONTRACTORS. IT WAS VERY EXPEIVE. AND REALLY NOT SCALABLE, AT LEAST FROM OUR
INITIAL LEARNINGS TO DO THAT IN SORT OF A SPOT APPROACH AROUND THE CITY. NOT WORKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS. >> OKAY. >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES, IT DOES. AND THANK YOU FOR REPEATING YOURSELF. OKAY. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY CONTINUES TO WORK
ON THIS. BUT I THINK THE BURDEN THAT I DEAL WITH IN WARD 4 IS MORE AROUND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PILOT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS. HAVING FOLKS REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO REQUEST IT THROUGH MY OFFICE OR THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OR
THROUGH 311 THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING ASSISTANCE. AND TYPICALLY, WHAT WE WORK ON IS, I MEAN, FOR PROBABLY FOR THE ENTIRE NORTHSIDE IS FOLKS ARE GETTING CITATIONS OR SOMEONE IS COMING TO THE DOOR SAYING, HEY, CAN U CLEAR YOUR WALKWAY, AND
THEY SAY I'M NOT ABLE TO. SO IF THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBOR THERE THAT CAN HELP ON THOSE BLOCKS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE SEND OUT THE NORTHSIDE BULLDOGS OR WE SEND OUT McKINLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO HELP THOSE NEIGHBORS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FUND
THAT AND THAT WE HAVE THESE POSITIONS TO HELP IN THOSE LARGER SCALE MATTERS THAT MAY BE REMOVED. SO I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER HAD ANYONE ASK ME FOR MUNICIPAL SNOW PLOWING. BUT I HAVE HAD SOMEONE ASK ME FOR SOMEONE TO COME OVER AND CLEAR
THEIR SIDEWALK OR, YOU KNOW, CUT THEIR GRASS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET A CITATIONS FROM THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK, THE PILOT THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS FAR AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DEVEL A BIGGER PROGRAM, A MORE SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM IN YEARS TO
COME. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S MOST NEEDED IN MY WARD. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMMITTING TO THAT WORK AND CONTINUING TO DO IT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I -- I DON'T
SEE -- OH, NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSE AROUND COST EFFECTIVENESS. SO JUST REITERATING. BEFORE THE PROGRAM WAS EVER FULLY
COMMITTED, THE ADMINISTRATION MADE A $200,000 CUT TO IT WHICH LIMITED WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH THE PILOTS ITSELF. SO IT DID FORCE A CONTAINER OF COST EFFECTIVENESS BECAUSE YOU WERE SHORT $200,000 AND HAD TO USE THAT AS A BASELINE FOR HOW TO ACTUALLY ADMISTER THE THREE
COMPONENTS OF THE PILOTS. SO WE, ONCE AGAIN, HAVE NEVEREEN AS HIGHLIGHTED HOW THIS PROGRAM WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH IT BEING FULLY ROLLED OUT BAUSE THERE WERE CUTS MADE BEFORE IT WAS EVEN IMPLEMENTED. I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS DYNAMIC AROUND
SERVICE IMPACTS OR SERVICE DELIVERY, ESPECIALLY WE LEARNED THIS IN RESPONSE TO THE LIGHTING DYNAMIC. AND IN THAT WE LEARNED WE HAVE FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT ACTUALLY GIVES THE ADMINISTRATION ALSO SPECIFICALLY KEY DEPARTMENTS LIKE PUBLIC WORKS, THE ABILITY TO ACCESS
FUNDS WHEN IT RELATES TO SERVICE DEVERY. AGAIN, WHEN WE SAW AN ISSUE OF NEED FOR LIGHTING, WE SAW THE ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE TO MOVE $1 MILLION TO MEET THAT CORE SERVICE DELIVERY. AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS THE ADMINISTRATION ACCESS
TO THOSE DOLLARS WHEN CORE DELIVERY SERVICES ARE EXPERIENCING GAPS AND THERE IS A NEED FOR MOVING OF FUNDING. AND WE'VE SEEN THEM UTILIZE THAT EVEN THIS PAS YEAR ALONE. WE WOULD JUST BE GOING WITHOUT CORE
SERVICES. WE HAVE POLICIES THAT PREVENT THOSE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. I WANTED TO OFFER THAT CONTEXT. I DON'T THINK I OFFICIALLY MOVED THIS MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I DID? THANK YOU. AND I DID GET A SECOND ON IT, CORRECT? AWESOME. ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANKS, CHAIR. I HAD A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR SEXTON AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS TODAY. I
WANTED TO JUST UNDERSTAND WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET BEFORE WE AMEND IT, THE CUTS THAT ARE MADE TO THE SNOW PLOWING PILOT, WHAT IMPACTS WOULD HAPPEN? WHAT WOULD
WE LOSE? WHAT WOULD GO AWAY? >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, WHAT WE FOUND LAST YEAR IN THAT FIRST YEAR S THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF THE PILOT WAS THESE GRANTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WERE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. SO WE PROPOSED TO EXPAND THOSE AND LEARN TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO BE EFFECTIVE ONE YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH LIMITED SNOW IS NOT MAYBE -- IT DOESN'T GIVE US EXTREME CONFIDENCE ABOUT WHAT THINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. SO THE PROPOSAL WAS TO REALLY JUST FOCUS THEN ON EXPANDING THE GRANTS TO
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS ALONG WITH CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THROUGH OUR SNOW COORDINATOR POSITION ASSISTANCE FOR RENTERS WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MIGHT NOT BE CLEARING THE SNOW, CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH CONTRACT SERVICES OR CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATIONS. SO PRODING THAT LIKE COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH RESOURCE. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT SAY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ORG IS HELPING OR THAT THERE'S A SNOW
ANGEL PROGRAM ARE RECEIVING GRTS THAT CONNECTS NEIGHBORS WITH NEIGHBORS. THE SHORT ANSWER IS THIS YEAR THE PROPOSAL WAS TO FOCUS ON EXPANDING THE GRANT PROGRAM BECAUSE WE FOUND ITO SUCCESSFUL. AND NOT DOING THE
REST, THE SNOW AMBASSADORS OR THE OTHER CITY STAFFED WORK OF SNOW AND SIDEWALK CLEARING. >> OKAY. SO THE PROPOSAL WOULD CUT THOSE PORTIONS OF IT. >> YEAH. >> OKAY. GOT IT. THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. THAT'S MY ONLY
QUESTION. I THINK FOR ME, THE THING THAT FEELS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO EXECUTE A SUCCESSFUL FULL PILOT WITHOUT ONE, LIKE THE IMPACTS OF THE SNOW SEASON. AND THEN ALSO DOING
THIS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. I WILL SAY I HAVE HAD CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT TO ME THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY NETWORK, THAT LIVE WITHIN THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY
NETWORK, THAT ROUTINELY REACH OUT ABOUT REAL LIFE IMPACTS THAT HAPPEN WHEN THEY GET SNOWED IN AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SHOVEL. THESE ARE USUALLY MY CONSTITUENTS WITH DISABILITIES WHO RELY ON THEIR SIDEWALKS. ALSO SIDEWALKS BEING CLEARED TO GET TO TRANSIT, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THEY
ESSENTIALLY GET SNOWED IN. AND THAT'S A REAL LIFE EMERGENCY FOR THEM. AND I AM IN CONSTANT CONVERSATIONS. I WOULD SAY WE HAVE LIKE FOUR EMERGENT SNOW CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE JUST COME UP WITH THE LATEST SNOWFALL. SO I WOULD LIKE -- I
WOULD OF COURSE LIKE TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION PROGRAM EXPAND. I GOT A REQUEST FROM THE ERICSON NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY SAW WHITTIER
ALLIANCE POST ABOUT IT. KIND OF SEEING OUT WHAT ARE THE BEST TOOLS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING A POLAR VORTEX, WHICH MEANS SNOW. AND IT'S SNOWING TODAY. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NEXT RECOGNIZE VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND DIRECTOR. I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY WHAT IS THE TOTALHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET THEN FOR
THE GRANTS PROGRAM FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS? >> OH, IT IS APPROXIMATELY $100,000. >> AND IS THAT -- SO $100,000. AND IS THAT WHAT WAS UTILIZED LAST YEAR OR IS THAT WHAT WAS --
>> I'M SORRY. YEAH. CHAIR CHUGHTAI, VICE CHAIRKOSKI, WE USED LESS THAN THAT LAST YEAR. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE GRANTS. WE WEREN'T ISSUING AS MANY GRANTS LAST YEAR. AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN INCREASE I
BELIEVE OF WHAT WAS SPENT LAST YEAR TO FOCUS ON EXPANDING NETWORK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GRANTS. >> OKAY. SO WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITHOUT MAKING ANY AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE $100,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION GRANTS PROGRAM PORTION OF THE PILOTS?
>> IT'S APPROXIMATELY, I THINK IT'S BETWEEN $75,000 AND $100,000. >> OKAY. THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION TO YOU OR POSSIBL TO THE AUTHOR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS AN ADDITIONAL ALMOST $600,000 BUT FOR ALL THREE OF THE PILOTS. SO
IT WAS AN INCREASE TO EVEN THAT AMOUNT IN THE GRANT, TO THE GRANT NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM AS WELL. IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTENTION WAS? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WAS ALSO INCLUSIVE. THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL APPROPRIATION BASED OFF OF PUBLIC WORKS NUMBERS. THE
595. THIS IS INCLUSIVE OFHEIR NUMBERS, AND I'M ASSUMING THE ABSORPTIONF WHAT THEY ALLOCATED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I AM NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN QUEUE. SO I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL
ON AMENDMENT 7. SORRY, AMENDMENT 5. SIDEWALK PLOWING PILOT. MISSPOKE. 5. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> NO. >> VETAW. >> NO. >> MAN.
>> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> NAY. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI.
>> AYE. >> THAT IS EIGHT AYES AND FOUR NAYS >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL NEXT MOVE TO AMENDMENT 6. THIS IS A REVISED AMENDMENT AS WELL
IN YELLOW. IT IS THE FRANCHISE FEES ALLOCATION PRESENTED BY -- OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. I WILL RECOGNIZE HER FOR PRESENTING THIS AMENDMENT AND MAKING A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS
AMENDMENT EARMARKS THE ESTIMATED $4 MILLION THAT WE WILL RECEIVE IF THE FRANCHISE FEE ORDINANCE IS PASSED NEXT THURSDAY. AND THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN WITH A CO CONSCO CONTINGENCY FOR THAT. N
I DECIDED TO CRAFT THIS IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE PUBLIC AND 60-PLUS PEOPLE CAME TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THOSE ORDINANCES AND TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE
TO DELIVER WEATHERIZATION AND RETROFITTI PROJECTS FOR OUR COMMITTEE. ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT LIVE IN EJ NEIGHBORHOODS AND NORTHSIDE AND GREEN ZONES.HESE HAVE A HUGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND ARE A REALLY IMPORTANT WAY FOR US TO ADDRESS
ONE OF OUR TOP GOALS AND CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN WHICH IS REDUCING ENERGY BURDEN. SO THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS TO ALLOCATE THAT NEW MONEY THAT COMES IN THROUGH THE FRANCHISE FEES FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WILL DIRECTLY LOWER ENERGY COSTS FOR ENERGY BURDENED NEIGHBORS IN OUR
CITY. AND THE AMOUNT THAT COMES IN IS NOT PRECISE. WEAN'T PREDICT HOW MUCH MONEY WILL COME IN. BUT WE'VE DONE OUR BEST. THE DATE OF IMPLEMENTATION WILL B APRIL 1ST FOR THOSE ORDINANCES.
THE NEW FRANCHISE FEE ORDINANCES ARE EXPECTED TO BRING IN $5 MILLION PER YEAR. BUT BECAUSE THEY WON'T GO INTO EFFECT, WE PRO-RATED IT AND LOWERED IT TO INCORPORATE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S AMENDMENT FOR ENERGY ASSISTANCE. AND I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT.
>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION ON FRANCHISE ES ALLOCATION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM COLLEAGUES? I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY CONCERN WITH THIS, AND CERTAINLY, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO ADDRESS COST BURDEN HOUSEHOLDS WITH UTILITY
COSTS. BUT IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE NOT REALLY -- THESE PROGRAMS AREN'T GOING TO THOSE LOW INCOME HOMES. IT'S BEEN REALLY A CHALLENGE TO GET THOSE
PROJECTS DONE. SO WHY CONTINUE TO SPEND MORE MONEY UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING GREEN ZONES AND THE NORTHSIDE AND SOUTHSIDE AND
MAKE SURE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE BEING FUNDED. >> THANK YOU. >> JUST A COMMENT. >> GOTCHA NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I SIT WITH THOSE COMMENTS
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. BUT MOSTLY, PER SOME PRIOR COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE EIGHT GOALS OF THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE. ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS ONE OF THEM. THE OTHER SEVEN ARE CARBON
UTRALITY, EMISSIONS, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, CLEAN ENGY, TREES, AND SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DON'T GET TO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS GO BACKWARDS AND SAY THERE'S JUST ONE OR THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE THAT WE LIKE. WE NEED TO PROTECT THE
GOALS OF THE PROGRAM, ALL OF THEM, TO MAKE MEANINGFUL PROGRESS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S AMENDMENT PRIOR WENT DIRECTLY TO WHOM IS GETTING IMPACTED BY INCREASED FRANCHISE FEES. THE MOST -- HER AMENDMENT
WAS ABOUT HOW TO REFUND OR HELP THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED THE MOST BY RISING ENERGY COSTS. THAT WAS A GOOD AMENDMENT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THIS ONE DOES GO TOWARD ONE OF THE GOALS. THIS ISN'T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE PASSING AN INCREASED
FRANCHISE FEE, IT'S ABOUT ONCE WE DO, HOW WE WILL PROGRAM IT. SO I AM RECEPTIVE TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SAKING UP ABOUT IT. AND I AM INCLINED TO PROGRAM IT AND MAKE MORE PROGRESS IN THIS AREA. BUT HERE'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO SPORT IT.
CAN YOU CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THIS EARMARK IS GOING TO THE PROGRAM ITSELF, TO THE FUNCTION OF WEATHERIZATION AND NOT TO ANY SPECIFIC CONTRACTOR OR VENDOR OR COMMUNITY GROUP? AND THIS IS A QUESTION I THINK TO THE AUTHOR. >> MADAM CHAIR, HAPPY TO ANSWER
THIS QUESTION. AND FIRST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WEATHERIZING AND RETROFITTING HOMES ADDRESSES ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CLIMATE GOALS THAT YOU LISTED, INCLUDING REDUCING GREEN HOUSE GASES, SUPPORTING OUR WORKFORCE, ET CETERA. AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE
AMENDMENT THAT THIS EARMARK WILL SPECIFICALLY FUND THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS WITHIN THE GREEN COS SHARE UMBRELLA, HEALTHY HOMES, CITY BONUS REBATES, CENTERPOINT LOW INCOME RENTAL PROGRAM, FRONTIER ENERGY, MULTI-FAMILY
BUILDING EFFICIENCY PROGRAM, AND THE CITY'S COST SHARE PROGRAM THAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOCUSED. OUR STAFF HAVE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB CREATING AN UMBRELLA TO MAKE THESE PROGRAMS
ACCESSIBLE SO ANYONE CAN FIND A PATHWAY THAT BESTUITS THEIR HOME AND THEIR BUILDING AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD'S NEEDS. >> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION. I WAS CONCERNED THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL VENDORS AND GROUPS SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS AND WE WERE GOING TO BE LIMITING IT TO THOSE GROUPS. SO I JUST WANT TO
BE CLEAR HERE. OUR EXPERT CITY STAFF, AS YOU MENTIONED, ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE DETERMINING WHICH PROGRAMS WITHIN GREEN COST SHARE -- NOT US DIRECTING WHO SPECIFICALLY WILL GET FUNDING.
MY SECOND OR LAST QUESTION IS EITHER FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DPLY INVOLVED IN THIS WORK, AND I APPRECIATE IT, OR PERHAPS DIRECTOR HANLON. WITH INCREASED FUNDS, IS IT LIKELY THAT WE WILL NEED TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL VENDORS TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK? THIS IS A LARGE
AMOUNT OF MONEY IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. >> I WOULD ASK THAT DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HANLON COME IN TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, AND WELCOME, DIRECTOR HANLON.
>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SOME OF THE NAMES THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THIS AMENDMENT CAME FROM A MEMO THAT WE HAD SENT BACK OF EXISTING CONTRACTORS AND PARTNERS THAT WE WORKED WITH TO GET THIS MONEY OUT. I WOULD SAY IN BRINGING ON FUND OF THIS
AMOUNT, WE WOULD BE SCALING UP THE CONTRACTS WITH THOSE VENDORS. BUT IT WOULD BE A LOT OF PROGRAM DOLLARS TO GET OUT THE DOOR. SO WE WOULD ALSOE OPEN TO WORKING WITH NEW PARTNERS TO ADDRESS ESPECIALLY IN AAS OF THE NORTHSIDE GREEN ZONE, SOUTHSIDE GREEN ZONE, AND
WITH LOW INCOME MEMBERS. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL CONTEXT. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HANLON,
SORRY, COME ON BACK. I DID HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS COMMENTS JUST ABOUT WHO WAS BEING SERVICEDAND I KNOW YOU GAVE A PRESENTATION AND NOT ALL OF US ARE IN SOME OF THE COITTEES. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST LAY OUT FOR US LIKE
WHAT THESE PROGRAMS AND WHO HAS BEEN. I KNOW YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS MAYBE PERHAPS WE WEREN'T TARGETING IN OUR GREEN ZONES. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS PRESENTED SOME VERY SPECIFIC NUMBERS FOR THAT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S
CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC. >> SURE. CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, SO THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WENT OUT FM OUR COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CHAPLIN JUST TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITY AROUND THIS. THERE
ARE MANY DIFFERENT EJ, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES OUT THERE. WE HAVE OUR GREEN ZONES. THERE ARE MET COUNCIL AREAS OF CONCENTRATED POVERTY. AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS DATA AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION AROUND THIS COMES
FROM. THE CLIMATE LEGACY INITIATIVE CURRENTLY USES GREEN ZONES AS A PRIORITY. NORTHSIDE GREEN ZONE, SOUTHSIDE GREEN ZONE AND LOW INCOME PROPERTIES, AND ANY ORGANIZATION THAT IS SERVING PEOPLE IN LOW INCOME SITUATIONS. AND SO ABOUT 60% OF THE FUNDING
GOES TO THOSE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY CALLING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CATEGORY. SO ABOUT 60% OF THE FUNDS GO INTO THOSE CATEGORIES AS WERE CURRENTLY SET UP. OUR DIRECTOR OF CLIMATE EQUITY ACTION IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR
ENTERPRISE PARTNERS AND ALSO WITH EXTERNAL PARTNERS THROUGH OUR CLIMATE LEGACY ROUNDTABLE TO HAVE FURTHER INTENTIONAL DISCUSSIONS AROUND THIS AND HOW WE ARE DEFINING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE INVESTMENTS. CURRENTLY, IT'S AROUND 60% OF FUNDS THAT GO TO THAT DEFINITION.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> I'LL SPEAK QUICK. I SUPPORT THIS. AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
ATTENDING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DID TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING. THIS ORGANIZATIONS ARE FROM THE COMMUNITY. THEY SPEAK COMMUNITY LANGUAGE. THEY EXPLAIN IT BETTER. AND JUST WITH DIRECTOR
THAT JUST SPOKE, HANLON, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE. IT WAS REALLY GREAT INFORMATION. I ENCOURAGE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO INVITE THOSE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING WONDERFUL WORK IN WEATHERIZING
AND HELPING FAMILIES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'M NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER SCUSSION. SO I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE.
>> VETAW. >> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 12 AYES.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO AMENDMENT 7. AFTER WE STARTED THIS MEETING, WE HAD THE CLERKS BRING BY AN AMENDED
VERSION OF THIS DOCUMENT. SO YOUR BINDER WILL HAVE A WHITE SHEET, WHEREAS THE ONE WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS THE YELLOW ONE. THIS AMENDMENT IS RELATED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY FOR ALL. IT IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER WONSLEY. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY TO INTRODUCE HER AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. THIS
AMENDMENT MAKES CHANGES TO CONTINUES TO BE A POPULAR PROGRAM AND WIDELY ACCLAIMED -- AND WE ALSO HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT ITS CUENT FUNDING LEVELS IS UNABLE TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THIS
PROGRAM. LAST YEAR IN RESPONSE TO A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE BY COUNCIL, PUBLIC WORKS SHARED THAT IT WOULD BE ESTIMATED $15 MILLION COST TO ADDRESS ALL THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS JUST FOR 2025 ALONE. AND FULLY COMPLETING
ELIGIBLE PROJECTS HAS BEEN A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT BY COUNCIL AND THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL HELP CONTINUE THAT WORK. THE CITY HAS OVER 16,000 SIDEWALK CORNERS, MANY OF WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN RECONSTRUCTED. SO THEY ARE DEFICIENT WITH RESPECT TO
CURRENT ADA DESIGN STANDARDS. THIS AMENDMENT WILL PUT $2.3 MILLION OF INVESTNTS INTO ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND FUND THE REPLACEMENT OF AROUND 100 DEFICIENT PEDESTRIAN RAMPS PER YEAR. THERE'S A MODEST INCREASE
TO PROTECTIVE BIKEWAYS BY ONE-TIME -- $2.5 MILLION FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WILL IMPROVE THE OVERALL TRAFFIC SAFETY FOR OUR CITY'S ROADWAYS. THESE CATEGORIES WERE SELECTED BASED ON NEED AS WELL
AS BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH CLIC MEMBERS AS WELL. I PROPOSED THIS AMENDMENT FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY WELLNESS AND TRAINING CENTER WHICH HAS ALLOCATED BY $5.5 MILLION IN THE PROPOSED MAYOR'S BUDGET. I WILL START OFF
BY SIMPLY SAYING THAT THIS BODY SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THE -- $24 MILLION BUILDING BEFORE GETTING COUNCIL APPROVAL AND FUNDING. THE ADMINISTRATION INCORPORATING THIS PROJE INTO THE SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT WAS AN OVERREACH, AN ATTEMPT TO BYPASS BUDGET AUTHORITY AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS CITED THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AS REQUIRING THE NEED FOR THIS FACILITY, AND THAT IS SIMPLY NOT FACTUAL. THERE WAS NOT -- WELLNESS AND TRAINING CENTER
LIKE THE CAPITAL REQUEST IMPLIES IN THIS PROPOSAL. THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT COUNCIL VOTED FOR REQUIRED THE COMPLETION OF A FACILITY ASSESSMENT, AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE. THE ADMINISTRATION CHOSE TO MAKE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS AND
INCORPORATE THEM IN THE AGREEMENT WITH ELEFA -- TO ENSURE WHAT THEY WERE SUBMITTING TO ELEFA WAS ACCURATE INFORMATION AND DID GET APPROVAL. WE SHOULD NOT COMMIT TO A $24 MILLION BUILDING TO HELP THE ADMINISTRATION SIMPLY
SAVE FACE. THEY SHOULD TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY AND WORK THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCESS ON THIS AS WELL AS OTHER SETTLEMENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH ELEFA TO ADVANCE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE COUNCIL IS A
RUBBER STAMP ON THOSE INITIATIVES. THIS IS A TIME TO ENSURE THOSE PROCESSES ARE BEING ENFORCED. EVEN OUTSIDE OF IMPROPER PROCESS BY THE ADMINISTRATION, I DO NOT THINK AT THIS TIME IT IS APPROPRIATE.
THIS SUMMER, COUNCIL APPROVED OVER $1 MILLION CONTRACT FOR WELLNESS SERVICES FOR OUR MPD OFFICERS. WELLNESS TRAINING WILL ALSO BE INCORPORATED INTO ALL THE FUTURE COMMUNITY CENTERS. THIS WAS STATED IN THE PRESENTATION BY THE OFFICE OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY IN RESPONSE TO A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT COUNCIL PASSED LAST YEAR. THE TRAINING SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING RENTED THAT I BEING PROPOSED AS A SITE, AGAIN, DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO PURCHASE A WHOLE NEW FACILITY. ACCORDING TO
THE CITY'S OWN MPD FACILITY ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL WAYS TO MEET THE TRAINING SPACES REQUIREMENT OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SUCH AS UTILIZING CROSS JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AND AGREEMENTS. MPD ACTUALLY ALREADY DOES THIS WITH SOME OF THEIR OTHER OPERATIONAL NEEDS. SO
THERE IS NO REASONHY THE TRAINING CENTER COULD NOT BE ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND SHARE THE COSTS WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WHO ALREADY HAVE RESOURCES IN PLACE TO FULFILL TRAINING NEEDS. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL NEXT YEAR WITH A BETTER
FLESHED OUT PROPOSAL AND PLAN FOR THIS BODY TO CONSIDER. BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS A LARGE INVESTMENT WITH TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT CURRENTLY SIDESTEPS THE COUNCIL'S BUDGET PROCESSES. AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, THESE DOLLARS ARE BETTER INVESTED IN THINGS
THAT WE DO KNOW WILL HAVE A MEASURABLE BENEFIT FOR THE PUBLIC LIKE MAKING INVESTMENTS INTO OUR TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM THAT WILL ENSURE DOZENS MORE PROJECTS WILL BE COMPLETED IN 2026. WITH THAT, I WILL MOTION THIS AMENDMENT FOR APPROVAL AND
ASK FOR A SECOND. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL ON TRAFFIC SAFETY FOR ALL. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M WONDERING, THIS IS A VERY STRONG STATEMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I'M WONDERING IF SOMEONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION CAN COME UP. IS JARED HERE? I CAN'T SEE WITH THE PILLAR. COULD YOU JUST
ADDRESS HOW THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IMPACTS THIS AMENDMENT OR VICE VERSA. AND THEN I DO HAVE ONETHER QUESTION AFTER THAT. THANK YOU. >> MR. JEFFRIES, IF YOU WILL FIRST BEGIN BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF. >> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR
CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. I'M JARED JEFFRIES AND THE DEPUTY COMMISSION OF COMMUNITY SAFETY FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THE MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES A TRAINING
ASSESSMENTS, A FACILITIES ASSESSMENT, SEVERAL OTHER ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE COMPLETED BETWEEN 2023 AND 2024. THERE WERE SEVERAL FACILITIES ASSESSMENTS DONE THAT SAID OUR CURRENT FACILITY FOR MPD
TRAINING, THE STRATEGIC OPERATION CENTER, WAS INSUFFICIENT TO MEET OUR TRAINING NEEDS FOR WHAT A MODERN POLICE AGENC REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE. >> AND IF I CAN JUST STOP YOU THERE. SO FOR THE PUBLIC, THE SOC IS THAT OLD ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL THAT HAS BEEN RETROFITTED FOR THIS NEED. >> CORRECT. THE CITY CURRENTLY LEASES OR RENTS. IN ADDITION TO JUST THE FACILITY ASSESSMENTS THAT WE HAD TO COMPLETE AND GAVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY, THE BOTH THE MDHR SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT AND THE CONSENT DECREE PROVISIONS WITH THE PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ALL HAVE EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND WELLNESS REQUIREMENTS THAT REALLY PUT A SIGNIFICANT ONUS ON THE CITY TO PROVIDE THESE RESOURCES TO OUR
OFFICERS AND TO OUR STAFF. I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF TRAINING IS SIGNIFICANT WELLNESS RESOURCES ABOVE WHAT WE SUPPLY TO THEMIGHT NOW. AND I MEAN, INHERENT IN THAT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR THESE
RESOURCES AND TRAINING TO OCCUR. AS FAR AS WHAT IS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND KIND OF HOW WE GOT THERE, I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON WHAT THAT MEANS AND THE WEIGHT OF THAT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS ON IT TOO.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD ANSWER THIS OR PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY,BUT DOES THIS SIDESTEP THE AGENDA. >> LET ME JUST WALK BACK A LITTLE BIT AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES. SO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRED US TO DO BOTH A TRAINING ASSESSMENT AND A FACILITIES ASSESSMENT. IN AS DEPUTY COMMISSIONER IDENTIFIED BOTH OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS
ACTUALLY FOUND SERIOUS DEFICIENCIES WITH THE EXISTING FACILITY. AND THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT RECOMMEED THAT A NEW TRAINING FACILITY BE CREATED. THE SETTLEMENT REEMENT ALSO REQUIRES US TO
PROVE A FACILITIES PLAN WHICH HAD TO BE APPROVED BY ELEFA.O WE CREATED THAT FACILITIES PLAN WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT A NEW FACILITY BE BROUGHT. NOW ELEFA APPROVED THAT. BUT OF COURSE THE NEXT STEP IN THE
PROCESS THEN IS TO GO TO CLIC, WHICH HAPPENED, AND THEN TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ULTIMATE BUDGET APPROVAL. SO I WOU ARGUE WE DID NOT DO A WRONG PROCESS HERE. WE FILED THE PROCESS. IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE
TO HAVE A PROPOSAL COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR BUDGETARY AUTHORITY THAT ELEFA DIDN'T APPROVE. RIGHT. PART OF THIS IS WE PRESENT SOMETHING TO ELEFA, THEY SAY YES, THIS WOULD SATISFY THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. IF
THEY SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE YOUR TIME. IF THEY SAY YES, THEN WE COME TO YOU FOR BUDGET AUTHORITY. WHICHAS WHY THIS WAS IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET. IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO NOT DO THE APPROPRIATION AND NOT ALLOW
US TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO ELEFA, COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL THAT WOULD TRY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, AGAIN, WELLNESS AND TRAINING THAT ARE ALL IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
AND SEE IF ELEFA WOULD APPROVE SOMETHING ELSE. GIVEN THE DEFICIENCIES AND GIVEN ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, AGAIN, SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING ALL OF THESE WELLNESS REQUIREMENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ELEFA WOULD
FI SOME OTHER OPTION TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS. >> IT DOES, THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, MR. JEFFRIES? >> I'LL JUST SAY THE NEED FOR THIS, I KNOW THE QUESTION WAS
POSED IN REGARDS TO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. THERE ARE NEEDS JUST BEYOND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE BEING UNMET AS FAR AS WELLNESS AND TRAINING NEEDS. THAT GOES FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR 911 DEPARTMENT. VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY
SAFETY DEPARTMENTS HAVE NEEDS WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY TRAINING AND WELLNESS. >> I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO. WE ALL WANT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT
TO -- AND WE SAW HOW GOOD THE TRAINING SHOULD BE, CAN BE, WITH THE ANNUNCIATION SHOOTING. WITHIN 4 MINUTES OF THE CALL, WE HAD 911 RESPONDERS ON. WE HAD
HORRIBLY INJURED CHILDREN ON THE WAY TO HOSPITALS TO GET FIXED. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR A FIREFIGHTER OR A 911 OPERATOR OR A POLICE OFFICER TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT OR THE AFTER EFFECTS FOR THEIR MENTAL WELLNESS. I THINK WE SHOULD
STICK TO THE COURSE. LISTEN TO ELEFA AND CONTINUE WITH OUR APPROVED TRAINING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'VE GOT THE CLERK. >> I JUST WASSKING IF COUNCIL
MEMBER WONSLEY COULD RESTATE HER MOTION FOR CLARITY. WE HAVE ONE THAT WAS PRINTED AS REVISED COPY. BUT THEN WE WERE NOTED BY YOUR STAFF THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURED IT CORRECTLY. >> THE CHANGE WAS CAPTURING -- >> BUT IN THE REVISED MOTION
THAT WE PASSED OUT IT SAYS ON THE FIRST ITEM THAT IT'S 700,000, AND YOUR STAFF TELLS US IT'S 720,000. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CORRECTLY. >> THANK YOU. THERE WAS ATYPO. >> SO THAT'S THE MOTION,
720,00 >> 720,000, THANK YOU. >> WONDERFUL. OKAY. WITH THAT,
NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU,CHAIR. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE A QUESTION YET. BUT JUST A FEW COMMENTS. THE TRAINING FACILITY IS IN WARD 4. IT'S AT A VERY OLD SCHOOL IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. LIKE
LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PEOPLE'S HOMES. AND I GET LOTS OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PEOPLE. NOT ABOUT POLICE, BUT NOISE COMPLAINTS. THE USAGE OF SOME THINGS -- I MEAN, MOSTLY IT'S NOISE COMPLAINTS. IT'S CONGESTED
TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLES OVER THERE. THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND I WOULD SAY WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE THE MOST IS THEY WANT OICERS TO BE TRAINED WELL. PEOPLE SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAV A BETTER POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK OFFICER WELLNES JUST GOES
RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT. I KNOW WELLNESS FOR ME DOES MATTER. FACILITIES DOES MATTER. I FEEL GOOD WHEN I GO TO MY HOUSE AND IT'S SPOTLESS CLEAN OR IT'S BEING USED IN THE WAY THAT I NEED IT THE MOST. SO I REALLY DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE OUR DEPARTMENT BETTER AND NOT AS LIKE A BAD THING. THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN A DEPARTMENT THAT WE WANT TO BE BETTER. A PART OF THAT IS FACILITIES. A PART OF THAT IS TRAINING. SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD, YOU
KNOW, THE 4TH PRECINCT HAS THE RANGE THERE. THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IF THE RANGE WILL MOVE TO THIS TRAINING FACILITY AND OUT OF THE 4TH PRECINCT. AND IF THE 4TH PRECINCT ACTUAL BUILDING WILL BE GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMUNITY
CENTER BACK IN THE DAY. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS ABOUT A BETTER TRAINING FACILITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AN THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THISLD SCHOOL ON 42nd
AND BRYANT I THINK IS WHERE IT IS. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S OUTDATED AND THAT THE FACILITY DEFINITELY, IT DOESN'T FIT THE NEEDS FOR POLICING RIGHT NOW. AND IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T FIT
THE NEEDS FOR NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST IN THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THAT SPACE, IN THAT PARK SPACE, IN THAT AREA ALL TOGETHER.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'VE GOT -- ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO PAUSE HERE JUST REALLY QUICK. FINANCE JUST HAS CAUGHT A MINOR ERROR WITH THAT REVISION. SO I'M GOING TO INVITE DIRECTOR DISCENZA UP AND JUST WALK THROUGH THE
IMPORTANCE OF GETTING A BALANCED ITEM AND HOW THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US AS IT IS WRITTEN IS BALANCED AND CORRECT AND NO FURTHER CHANGES ARE NEEDED ON IT. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. YES. THE REVISION THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT WOULD THROW THIS OFF
BALANCE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE CUTTING $5.5 MILLION FROM ONE PROJECT, THE ADDITION AMOUNT IS 5.5. $700,000 PLUS $2.5 MILLION PLUS $2.5 MILLION WILL BALANCE. BUT
770 WILL NOT. >> ACTUALLY, MICHAEL, YOU CAN PULL THE ONE THAT YOU ARE DROPPING OFF RIGHT NOW. WHAT DIRECTOR DISCENZA IS DESCRIBING ISNCORRECT AND NOT BALANCED.
>> FOR CLARITY, MADAM CHAIR, WHAT WE READ INTO THE RECORD WAS FOR LINE ITEM 1, PROJECT, WE WERE TOLD THAT $720,000. THE SECOND ITEM TRO22 IS
$2.5 MILLION. AND 3PV104, IS $2.1 MILLION. >> OKAY.
>> GIVE US JUST ONE SECOND. >> IT SHOULD JUST BE $700,000 EVEN. TAKE THIS ONE THAT YOU
DROPPED OFF. IT SHOULD BE $700,000 EVEN. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO RURN BACK TO THE QUEUE. I KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF DISCUSSION THAT IS STILL LEFT. ON THIS
ITEM. SO FOR CLARITY, FOR CLARITY, THE MOTION IS DECREASING THE ENTIRE BUDGET THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR 2026 FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY WELLNESS CENTER BY $5.5 MILLION. AND THEN
TAKING THAT $5.5 MILLION AND DISTRIBUTING IT AMONG THREE OTHER EXISTING CAPITAL PROGRAMS. PROTECD BIKEWAYS GETS $700,000 INCREASE. TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT SUPPLEMENTAL THAT IS WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC
CALMING IS NOW GOING TO LIVE, IS $2.5 MILLION. ADA RAMP REPLACEMENT SUPPLEMENTAL GETS $2.3 MILLION. WHICH ADDS UP TO EXACTLY $5.5 MILLION. WE'RE GOING TO RETURN TO DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU. >> SORRY. DID WE SKIP OVER YOU? >> NO. I HAD SOMETHING ELSE. >> I WILL HAVE YOU GET BACK IN QUEUE. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE STAFF OR ANYONE WHO C ANSWER. I'M
LEARNING AS WE GO. THIS TRAINING FACILITY THAT'S COMING UP, THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO BUILD, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS TRAINING
FACILITY GOING TO COST? HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS THAT GOING TO COST? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUIL MEMBER OSMAN, CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET WE HAVE $5.5 MILLION SLATED FOR 2026.
AND THEN $8 MILLION IN 2027. $8 MILLION IN 2028. THOSE ARE THE THREE YEARS OF FUNDING THAT ARE PROPOSED. >> AND WHEN WILL THIS PLAN TO GET BUILT? WHAT YEAR IS GOING TO GO TRY AND GET BUILT? >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, SO JUST ONE QUICK
THING BEFORE I GO INTO THE MELINE. SO I'LL NOTE THAT THIS WAS ON THE CITY'S STATE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST AND IT WAS AT THE TOP. WE ASKED IN OUR APPLICATION TO THE STATE FOR $19 MILLION.
AND SO AS PART OF THAT REQUEST PROCESS, THAT $19 MILLION IS ACTUALLY HALF OF THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED COST. SO THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED COST WOULD BE $38 MILLION WITH US REQUESTING $19 MILLION FROM THE STATE. SO WHAT I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T
REMEMBER IF DIRECTOR DISCENZA'S SUMS ADD UP TO THAT, BUT THAT'S THE MOST RECENT CALCULATIONS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT TIMELINE. I THINK THIS IS A OJECT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE ON BECAUSE OF ALL THE
SIGNIFICANT TRAINING AND WELLNESS NEEDS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, IN THE CONSENT DECREE, AND ALL THE NEEDS I COVERED FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS SITE ACQUISITION. HAVING A SITE UNDER CONTROL IN PROBABLY EAR 2026.
AND THEN ACTUALLY STARTING THE DESIGN PROCESS IN 2026 WITH THE GOAL OF START BUILDING END OF 2026, BEGINNING OF 2027. >> OKAY. WELL WE KINDA KNOW THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR A SPACE
FOR 3RD PRECINCT NEW LOCATION, THAT TOOK A LONG TIME. AND THE INVESTMENT AND THE TIME OF STAFF. WE ARE GETTING -- WE ARE RENEWING OUR PRECINCTS, I THINK.
THE FIRST PRECINCT AND THE THIRD PRECINCT. IS THAT AN OPTION OR A WAY TO HAVE WELLNESS OR TRAINING CENTER WHILE WE BUILD THOSE? FOR EXAMPLE, THIRD PRECINCT. WOULDN'T THAT BE SMART TO -- I
KNOW EACH PRECINCT HAS SOME KIND OF WELLNESS, LOCKERS, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO GYMS. THIS IS NOT THAT. THIS CENTER IS GOING TO BE A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE, EVERY PROFESSIONAL, FIREFIGHTERS AND EVERYONE CAN GO TO GET TRNED. I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE
IF THERE'S A WAY TO INCLUDE THE NEW THIRD PRECINCT THAT'S COMING UP. A TRAINING FACILITY OR THE NEW BUILDING DOWNTOWN. A TRAINING FACILITY OR SOMETHI SIMILAR TO THAT. HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. YES, IT
HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. REGARD TO THE SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER, THE DESIGN FOR THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THAT RFP FOR THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR IS OUT. WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL NEAR THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR THE APPROVAL FOR THAT
GENERAL CONTRTOR CONTRACT FOR THE THIRD PRECINCT FOR SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFE CENTER. AND DURING THAT, YOU'LL ALL RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THAT FACILITY. THAT FACILITY REALLY HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED, AT LEAST AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT
AS A CITY, TO BE MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL CENTER WHERE COMMUNITY CAN COME IN AND OUT. FROM A COMMUNITY PURPOSE STANDPOINT, IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THE CITY HAS BEEN KNOWING THAT WE WERE NEEDING TO BUILD A NEW SITE, A NEW LOCATION FOR A TRAINING WELLNESS CENTER AS RECOMMENDED BY O ASSESSMENTS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT PROPERTY AND WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE
TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOU AS COUNCIL EARLY IN 2026 FOR ACTUAL ACQUISITION OF THE SITE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M JUST GOING TO STATE MY OPINION. I THINK THESE ARE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS. BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, WE DO NEED TO SET OUR
OFFICERS OR OUR PROFEIONAL PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE THAT IS WELCOMING, THAT IS GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN, TO BE ABLE
TO BE THE BEST OF THE BEST. AND THAT WILL TAKE, OF COURSE, A LOT OF INVESTMENT FROM THE STATE, A LOT OF WORK, AND A LOT OF INVESTMENT WITHIN THE CITY. SO NOT SURE WHEN THIS FACILITY WILL
BE AVAILABLE, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE LOOKING FORWARD, I THINK WE ARE MAKING A SMART DECISION BUILDING THIS PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRAINING
CENTER THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO COME UP NEXT FEW YEARS. WE JUST HAVE TO SET OUR PROFESSIONALS TO HAVE A FACILITY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THAT IN THE FUTURE, TOO. THANKYOU.
>> NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBERALMISANO FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> MADAM CHAIR, I GET BEHIND THE CONCEPT OF MANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO DO. BUT IT WILL BE NO SURPRISE TO YOU THAT I OBJECT TO THE FUNDING
SOURCE OF MANY OF THEM. LARGE CUTS ARE APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN MPD OR THEIR NEEDED FACILITIES ARE A TOTAL NON-STARTER FOR ME. THAT SAID, I AM SO FLOED AND FRUSTRATED BY THIS AMENDMENT THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO
START.UT I PROMISE TO KEEP TRACK OF MY TIME. WE KNOW THAT OUR STRATEGIC OPERATION CENTER, OUR CURRENT TRAINING CENTER IS DEFICIENT, AND THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY A MANDATED FACILITIES ASSESSMENT. I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARD A
NEW TRAINING AND WELLNESS CENTER FOR YEARS. I WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL IN AT LEAST GETTING THIS INTO THE CIP IN 2019. SIX YEAR AGO. AND I THINK BEFORE THAT, WE GOT IT ON OUR IGR
AGENDA FOR STATE FUNDING POTENTL AND FOR STATE PARTNERSHIPS IN THIS WORK. THAT IS A LONG-STANDING NEED THAT PREDATES THE MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ANY TALK OF A CONSENT DECREE. THIS HAS BEEN A DEFINING PRIORITY OF MY CAREER ON THE COUNCIL. SO COME TALK TO
ME ABOUT IT WHEN YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT. THIS ACTION WILL RESULT IN MASSIVE DELAYS TO COMPLIANCE FOR THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ANY CONSENT DECREE. SITE ACQUISITION, BONDING, LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT
TAKE A LONG TIME. AND THE INITIAL STEPS I PUT IN PLACE A LONG TIME AGO. SENDING THIS BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WILL LEAD TO MULTI-YEAR DELAYS, MEANING WE'LL BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT TIMELINES. WE HAD STARTED OFF ON A PATH TO GET ALL OF THOSE
THINGS DONE AND FAST AND MAKE THESE IMPORTANT CHANGES IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN RECORD TIME. WE WILL NEVER GET OUT OF IT, IS MY PRESUMPTION IF WE START GOING DOWN THIS PATH. OUR POLICE OFFICERS TRAIN IN INADEQUATE FACILITIES. THEY WERE
HIGHLIGHTED AT LENGTH IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT MANDATED FACILITIES ASSESSMENT. THEY ALSO LACK NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE REQUIRED NEW TRAININGS THAT WE HAVE. A LOT OF THEM. DENYING THEM THOSE SPACES IS A
FAILURE OF OUR OWN WORK. IN THE AUTHOR'S ANALYSIS, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY STATES THERE SHOULD BE A THOUGHTFUL STUDY AND PLAN FOR HOW ALL MPD RELATED CAPITAL PROJECTS INTERFACE TOGETHER. AND THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES REPORT.
STAFF CREATED THAT PLAN. THEY PRESENTED IT TO MDHRND ELEFA WHO BOTH APPROVED IT. OCF STAFF PRESENTED THE PLAN FOR ALL OF THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED CAPITAL PROJECTS AT THE SEPTEMBER 22ND COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING IN RESPONSE TO A LEGISLATIVE DIRECT IFR AUTHORED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. STAFF INCORPORATED SEVERAL CRITERI INTO THEIR DESIGN. THESE OPERATIONAL PRIORITIES FOCUS ON HOW THE CITY MANAGES TO ENSURE
THEY ALIGN WITH THE VALUES OF RACIAL EQUITY, COMNITY SAFETY, SUSTAINABILITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OUTLINED IN THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES PLAN. THE STRATEGIC RACIAL AND EQUITY ACTION PLAN, THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, AND THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY AIM TO GUIDE
DEPARTMENTAL PROCESSES, STAFFING STRATEGIES, AND WORK PRACTICES TO BETTER REFLECT COMMUNITY NEEDS, FOSTER TRU AND PROMOTE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES ACROSS ALL NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORHOODS AND POPULATIONS. THE AUTHOR ALSO
NOTES THAT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DOES NOT CALL FOR A NEW FACILITY. SHE'S CORRECT. BUT THE FACILITIES PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY ELEFA WAS ALSO APPROVED BY MDHR WHO ARE THE PARTNERS AT THE TABLE FOR THIS WORK IN ALL RESPECTS. THIS
PROJECT PROPOSAL DID FOLLOW THE STANDARD CLIC PROCESS CONTRARY TO THE AUTHOR'S NOTES. THE AUTHOR STATES THROUGHOUT THAT CITY CHANNELS WERE NOT FOLLOWED AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. INDEPENDENT EVALUATOR APPROVED THIS PLAN, IT WAS PART OF A
PUBLIC PRESENTATION AT COUNCIL, IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET. CONTRARY TO THE AUTHOR'S CLAIMS, THIS DID GO THROUGH THE CLIC PROCESS. LASTLY, WE RECENTLY APPROVED OUR STATE CAPITAL INVESTMENT BILL RESOLUTION, WHICH NOT ONLY
INCLUDES THIS FACILITY, BUT RANKS IT FIRST OF OUR PRIORITIES. THAT REQUEST IS RELIANT ON A FINANCIAL COMMITNT FROM THE CITY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. I'VE KNOWN THAT AND WORKED ON THAT FOR SIX YEARS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO REDUCE ITS BONDING ASK. THE CITY NEEDS TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT IT IS COMMITTING HALF OF THE COST OF THIS PROJECT. I'LL STOP HERE. >> NEXT UP I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND A
LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CLIC REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I SEE THE CLIC'S REPORT THAT SAYS THAT THEY NEEDED MORE SCOPING AND INFORMATION REGARDING THI PROJECT IN ORDER TO INCLUDE IT IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND WHEN CLIC CAME BEFORE BUDGET COMMITTEE MONTHS AGO, IT WAS NOT
IN THEIR LIST OF PROJECTS.UT THEN IT WAS ADDED INTO THE MAYOR'S BUDGET AFTER THE FACT. AND I'M WONDERING IF BUDGET DIRECTOR, JAYNE DISCENZA OR SOMEONE WHO STAFFS THE CLIC CAN SPEAK TO THE CLIC SPECIFICALLY WHICH IS A TIER 1 ADVISORY BODY,
IF I'M CORRECT. AND IS APPOINTED TO DO THE WORK OF TIER 2 ADVISORY BODY TO THE CITY, IS APPOINTED TO DO THE WORK OF CAPITAL REQUEST AND SPENDS HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF DOING THAT EVERY YEAR, WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS REQUEST AND HOW THEY ANALYZED IT.
>> SURE, THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, CLIC DID REVIEW THIS PROJECT AND ADDED A COMMENT ON PAGE 12 OF THEIR REPORT. I'M HAPPY TO READ IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CLIC'S PURVIEW IS TO COMMENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS. THEY ARE NOT LAWYERS OR POLICY EXPERTS ON WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ARE. BUT I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THEIR REPORT IN THEIR COMMENTS, THEY STATE THAT NEITHER THE UNDERLINED SETTLEMENT AGREEME NOR THE
FACILITIES ASSESSMENTS EXPLICITLY -- REDUCING POLICE MISCONDUCT. S THAT WAS THE NATURE OF THEIR DISAGREEMENT. AND THE MAYOR IN HIS RECOMMENDED BUDGET HAD TO ADD THIS BACK IN BECAUSE OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AS INTERPRETED BY
OUR CITY ATTORNEY. >> OKAY. I'M HEARING -- I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THE CLIC PROCESS HERE. AND NOW I THINK I'M GRAPPLINGITH THE DIFFERENCES IN LEGAL OPINION AROUND WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT VERSUS WHAT
ELEFA SAYS, AND WHAT ELEFA APPROVED. AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY WELLNESS AND TRAINING PLANS THAT ELEFA COULD APPROVE. THIS ISN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE, INCLUDING A MORE DECENTRALIZED TRAINING INSTEAD OF ONE CENTRALIZED
EXPENSIVE NEW FACILITY. AND I'M WONDERING IF THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD SPEAK TO WHETHER ELEFA WOULD APPROVE A NEW PLAN. >> COUIL VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELEFA WILL DO. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WE HAD A FACILITIES
ASSESSMENT DONE BY AN EXPERT, WHICH WAS REQUIRED BY THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. THAT EXPERT -- THAT IS WHAT WE PRESENTED TO ELEFA. ELEFA APPROVED IT WITH MDHR INPUT AS
WELL. SO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT IF WE BUILD THIS NEW FACILITY, IT WILL SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. WHETHER THERE IS A DIFFERENT OPTION, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE
UNDERLYING REQUIREMENTS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, FOR WELLNESS SERVICES, FOR ALL OF THIS TRAINING THAT REQUIRES SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING. LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THE TRAINING ASSESSMENT ACTUALLY POINTED OUT
IS IN THE CURRENT LOCATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD DOING SCENARIOS WOULD REQUIRE LIKE PRETEND TAKEDOWNS IN OUTDOOR LOCATIONS. AND THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE CURRENT FACILITY WHEN YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ORDER TO
ACTUALLY FULFILL ALL OF THOSE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WHICH AGAIN ALL OF THE LEARNING AND SCENARIOS, WE NEED A FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY UNLIKELY, HONESTLY, THAT ELEFA IS GOING TO APPROVE SOME OTHER
PLAN. DO I KNOW? NO. I KNOW WHAT THEY WILL APPROVE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TESTED THAT. BUT I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS AUT WHETHER WE COULD ACTUALLY COME IN TO COMPLIANCE WITH SOME OTHER PROPOSAL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION HERE?
>> YEAH. I HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION AS WELL, AS THE CHAIR. >> GO AHEAD. >> THIS FACILITY TOTALS $19 MILLION. DID WE NOT JUST GET A REPORT THAT MPD OVER SPENT
THEIR BUDGET WITHOUT AUTHORATION FROM THE CITY. >> NEARLY $20,000, YES. >> I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE UP HERE DOING FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT OUR BUDGETS ARE ALIGNED WITH WHAT OUR POLICY GOALS ARE AS A CITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
APPROPRIATING MONEY. $19 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON A NEW FACILITY. I THINK IF THEY WERE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT WANTING MONEY FOR THAT FACILITY, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAREFUL WITH THE EXTRA 19 THEY SPENT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY ACTUALLY ADDRESS WHY -- WHEN CLIC WAS STRUGGLING WITH WANTING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM, THEY WANTED MORE INFORMATION. DID YOU WORK WITH THEM? DID YOU GO TO THEM AND SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT THE
GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION IF IT WAS OF SUCH HIGH IMPORTANCE? NOT IF, IS OF SUCH HIGH IMPORTANCE. >> YES, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, NO, I WAS NOT ENGAGED BY CLIC.
IT WAS PRESENTED TO CLIC. I DO BELIEVE THAT DEPUTY COMMISSIONER JEFFRIES, THOUGH, WALKED THEM ROUGH OUR CONCERNS. AND I DID GIVE LEGAL ADVICE TO DEPUTY COMMISSIONER. >> DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, WHY DIDN'T YOU ENGAGE THE CIT
ATTORNEY TO COME AND TALK TO CLIC? THIS IS LIKE OF SH A HIGH GRAVITY. IF YOU WANTED THIS TO BE RECOMMENDED BY CLIC. >> YES, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT. CLIC HAS BEEN ENGAGED I THINK TWO OR THREE YEARS
CONSISTENTLY NOW. AND WE'VE TRIED A FEW DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF PRESENTATIONS ON WHY THIS IS NEEDED. THIS YEAR, MYSELF AND CHIEF O'HARA BOTH WENT TO PRESENT. WALKED THEM THROUGH A PRESENTATION ON THIS FACILITY. I WILL BE CANDID IN SAYING WE GOT
NO QUESTIONS.O TO SAY THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS NO QUESTIONS, IT WAS REALLY CONFUSING FOR THEM TO SAY WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. WE NOT KNOWING WHAT THE MORE INFORMATION WAS. WE HAVE TALKED
WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT IN FUTURE YEARS FOR ANY PROJECT, THERE BE ATTORNEY OFFICE PRESENCE THERE. ATTORNEY ANDERSON COULD SPEAK MORE CLEARLY ON WHAT SHE WOULD SAY TO
THEM. THE CONTENT WOULD BE LARGELY WHAT WE INDICATED. WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS UNDER THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >> THANK YOU, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN'S TIME IS NOW EXPIRED. NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL
MEMBER OSMAN FOLLOWED BY VICE CHAIR KOI. GO TO THE NEXT PERSON. VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE FOR DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AS WELL. I WOULD JUST LE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE
BIT. YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING THE DECISION. I HEAR AND UNDERSTAND THAT NECESSITY OF HAVING TRAINING, A NEW TRAINING FACILITY AND WELLNESS CENTER. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE DONE TO THINK ABOUT LIKE THE REDUNDANCY OF THAT. I
UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE UNDER A CONSENT DECREE. AND SO WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THIS AS A NEED. BUT I IMAGI THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE REALLY CLOSE BY A ALSO GOING TO BE POSSIBLY NEEDING THIS OR WANT TO ENHANCE THEIR FACILITIES. SO I
JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN MENTIONED DECENTRALIZING SOME OF THAT TRAINING FACILITIES OR HAVE WE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES THAT WOULD ALSO WANT TO PARTNER WITH US WHERE WE HAVE ONE. MAYBE IT'S IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS OR
MAYBE IT'S INHE CITY OF EDINA AND WE UTILIZE THEIR FACILITY OR COUNTY. JUST CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND WHEN I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN JUST MENTIONED OF THE OVER SPENDING OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT ALSO IN GENERAL, THE CONSTRAINTS OF OUR BUDGET
RIGHT NOW. HOW ARE WE THINKING CREATIVELY ABOUT THIS IS A $38 MILLION BUILDING TODAY. BUT MY GUESS IS WITHIN A FEW YEARS IT WILL BE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THAT. HOW CAN WE REDUCE THESE REDUNDANCIES AND BE MORE
EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WITH O SPENDING. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, VICE CHAIR KOSKI, THANK YOU FOR T QUESTION. YES, WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS ON BEING ABLE TO PARTNER WITH ON A FACILITY LIKE THIS. IN TALKING THIS PROJECT THROUGH, LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY HAS RIGHT NOW, AND
ESPECIALLY WITH ELEFA AND THEIR TECHNICAL EXPERTS WHO HAVE DECADES OF POLICE TRAINING UNDER THEIR BELT. ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP JUST AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH TRAININGS IS HOW LOGISTICALLY DIFFICULT IT IS HAVING DIFFERENT TRAINING COMPONENTS BEING IN DIFFERENT
PHYSICAL LOCATIONS. SO A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, THE FIRING RANGE IS IN E FOURTH PRECINCT. THAT HAS BEEN NOTED SEVERAL TIMES THE SHUFFLING OF TRAINEES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THERE AND THE SOC IS REALLY
INCONVENIENT, REALLY TIME CONSUMING AND IT'S REALLY NOT IDEAL. AS FAR AS THE VISION FOR THIS FACILITY REALLY IS AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL WITHIN OUR OWN CITY ENTERPRISE, BUT ALSO INTERJURISDICTIONAL PROJECT.
THERE IS CERTAINLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH JURISDICTIONS WHO HAVE SIMILAR NEEDS AS OURS. I WL SAY ONE OF THE MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS FOR US IS THAT IF THERE IS A REALLY GREAT SITE THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THAT IS NOT
IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT ALLOWS FOR WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE, THAT IS GOING TO BE A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION IN WHERE WE CHOOSE. THAT IS GOING TO BE PREFERRED SO THAT WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE OUR OFFICERS GOING TO ONE
CENTRAL LOCATION THAT IS ABLE TO MEET THESE NEEDS. AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GO OUT TO A SUBURB, USE TIME, ON DUTY TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO DO THAT. SO THAT IS -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YR TIME, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, BUT
WE'VE TALKED THIS THROUGH WITH ELEFA, WITH SEVERAL OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY BUT ALSO ONE THAT FITS THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. >> THE DISCUSSION WITH OTHER CITIES OR JURISDICTIONS, YOU
KNOW, WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE MINN THIS AND THEIR PAYING RENT. I IMAGINE THE TRAINING ISN'T HAPPENING 24/7. THERE'S A BUILDING THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER HOURS OF THE DAY THEN. AND SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE
FRONTING THIS INITIAL BILL AND THAT THERE WOULD BE A RENTAL PROCESS? HOW DEEPLY HAVE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH THIS? >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY ON HOW THIS WOULD WORK. HOW OTHER FA
ILT IS FACILITIES OF THIS NATURE WORK, D THEY DO WORK OFF OF THIS MODEL. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHERE THE FACILITY IS. IF IT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND DEPENDING ON GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, WHAT
JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERS ARE WILLING TO DO LIKE THAT SHARING AGREEMENT MAY LOOK DIFFERENT. SO IT COULD BE CO-OWNERSHIP. IT COULD BE THAT RENT MODEL. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY SPECIFIC HAVE A SPECIFIC SITE CONVERSATIONYET. BUT ONCE WE
GET TO THAT POINT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH MORE CONCRETE DETAILS OF WHAT A PARTNERSHIP COULD LOOK LIKE. >> OKAY. AND ARE YOU LOOKING AT AREAS OUTSIDE OF MINNEAPOLIS FOR THIS FACILITY? >> WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AREAS OUTSIDE AS WELL AS INSIDE.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. WE'VE GOT FIVE SPEAKERS LEFT IN QUEUE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU KNOW,
COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN MADE THE POINT ABOUT THE OVERTIME, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT $18 MILLION OR $19 MILLION, I THINK YOU EVEN SAID $20 MILLION IN OVERTIME. BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT SOME OF THIS IS RELATED TO POOR TRAINING FACILITIES. IF
WE'RE DOING TRAINING IN FIVE DIFFERENT FACILITIES WITH DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, AND THINGS AREN'T UP TO PAR. GETTING THINGS IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION MAKES MORE SENSE AND WILL CUT SOME OF THOSE COSTS. I'M SURE OF THAT. DON'T KNOW HOW
MUCH. BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT WILL HAPN. THE OTHER THING IS, SO BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK IT WAS IN COW THAT WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AROUND THE PUBLIC
SAFETY CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THE BACK AND FORTH AROUND IF MDHR AND ELEFA APPROVE THIS AND LIKE, HOW THIS PROCESS HAPPENED. BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TOLD IN THAT COW MEETING THAT,ND I
DON'T KNOW WHO COULD JUST CONFIRM THIS FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE INFORMATION, THAT THIS PROJECT WENT THROUGH ELEFA, WENT THROUGH OCS. OCS
INCORPORATED THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY REPORT, AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IN THIS. AND THAT IT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO CLIC. THAT IT WENT THROUGH THE STANDARD CLIC PROCESS IS TO MY UNDERSTANDING. SO IF SOMEONE CAN JUST COME AND CONFIRM THAT JUST
SO THAT IT IS ON THE RECORD FOR ME THAT IT WENT THROUGH THE STANDARD CLIC PROCESS. THAT ELEFA AND MDHR BOTH APPROVED THIS PLAN BACK IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE, I BELIEVE IT WAS SEPTEMBER. WE HAD A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING WHERE THERE WAS A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE I THINK BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY THAT SAID THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS HAD HAPPENED AND WE WERE AT A PLACE WHERE WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH A
REQUEST AND GNG TO HAVE THIS TRAINING FACILITY. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUTION ABOUT CLIC, AND DIRECTOR DISCENZA CAN CORRECT ME IF IT'S INCORRECT. IT WAS
PRESENTED TO CLIC. CLIC DID NOT PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR PUT THIS FACILITY PROJECT IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2025, FOR 2026, I'M SORRY. SO YES, IT DID GO THROUGH THE CLIC PROCESS. THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IT IS IN
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET. AS FAR AS THE PROCESS FOR ELEFA, ELEFA DID APPROVE OUR FACILITIES PLAN WHICH DID HAVE US PROPOSING THAT WE WLD BUILD A NEW TRAINING AND WELLNESS FACILITY. SO THEY APPROVED. AND IN THE
ROLE THAT MDHR PLAYS, MDHR CONSULTED, ELEFA TAKES VERY MUCH INTO ACCOUNT PROVIDING THEIR APPROVAL. >> HAVING WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THOSE ENTITIES, IT WAS STILL SAID TO US THAT THE
SAFE AND THRIVG COMMUNITIES REPORT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN AND THE INFRASTRUURE AND OTHER THINGS ALSO, RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AS PART OF THE -- BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY LOOK FOR A SITE, WE NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT
WERE THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE REALLY NEEDED THIS FACILITY BE ABLE TO DO. AS PART OF THAT FUNCTIONALITY LIST, WE INCORPORATED THE NEEDS, THE OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS OF ALL OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENTS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE SAFE AND THRIVING
COMMUNITIES REPORT VERY MUCH RECOMMENDS. >> SO IT WAS EVERY DEPARTMENT IN COMMUNITY SAFETY, ALL THEIR NEEDS WERE INCORPORATED IN THAT REPORT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S STARTING TO BE CONFUSING ON WHAT PROCESSES THINGS WENT THROUGH, WHAT DIDN'T, WHO HAS
THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND A LOT OF COMMENTS AROUND WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY AND DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS. AND I REALLY THOUGHT WE HAD WRAPPED THIS UP BACK IN SEPTEMBER IN THE COW MEETING
WHEN WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE PRESENTED TO US ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAPITAL PROJECTS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. FIRST, I'LL JUST SPEAK TO WHAT THIS IS FUNDING. THIS IS ONE OF OUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT REALLY LOOKS AT DISABILITY
JUSTICE. THE ADA RAMP PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMPLETE. AND US MOVING AHEAD ON IT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COMPLETE IT MEANS THAT WE CAN MOVE INTO THE SIDEWALK ACCESSIBILITY INVENTORY PROGRAM,
WHICH HAS LONG BEEN AN ISSUE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS WITH VARYING MOBILITY ISSUES, ISSUES WITH VISION, OTHER DISABILITIES WHERE THEY'VE HAD ISSUES ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO I REALLY WANT TO LIFT THAT UP. AND THIS IS ALSO AN ITEM THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY
ADVOCATE FOR I OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, AND WE ADVOCATE FOR THIS AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO FUND IS A REALLY CRITICAL NEED. AND ALSO TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS CONTINUE TO BE A TOP PRIORITY OF CONSTITUENTS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR
OFFICES AS HAS BEEN SHARED IN THIS TERM THAT FOR SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THEY HEAR FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS. AND FOR THEM, IT IS ABOUT A LIFE OR DEATH EXPERIENCE. AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO UPLIFT THE POINT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE FUNDING HERE AND WHY THAT
MATTERS. IN TERMS OF THE SOURCE, THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN EXTREMELY CLARIFYING FOR ME IN THE SENSE THAT USUALLY WE HAVE THE STUDY SESSIONS AND THE DEEPER CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WE SAY GO AHEAD ON A MULTI-MILLION
DOLLAR BUDGET ALLOCATION. AND WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE DID TODAY FOR OUR SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IN BUDGET IN THE 11th HOUR WAS A STUDY SESSION WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THESE OPPORTUNITIES TOGETHER BEFORE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT
ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM TO NOT JUST WAIT FOR THEIR COLLEAGUES TO COME TO THEM IF IT IS A PRIORITY FOR TM TO BE LEADERS AND CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION, CONDUCT BRIEFINGS, BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER THIS NEXT
CALENDAR YEAR BECAUSE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS TO GO BEFORE THE CLIC AGAIN AND TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. AND I'LL ALSO STATE, WE HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT MOVE IN MAKING THIS A PRIORITY IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. EVEN GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF THE INFORMATION
THAT WE ARE RECEIVING TODAY. WE SAID YEAH, WE WILL PASS THIS FORWARD AND WE WILL MAKE THIS A TOP PRIORITY ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, AND WE WILL LOBBY FOR IT AND USE OUR CITY STAFF, AND HONESTLY, MY TIME TO LOBBY FOR
THIS. I WILL ALSO SHARE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION OR LACK OF INFORMATION OR QUESTIONS NOT ONLY AMONG CLIC MEMBERS, NOT ONLY AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT ALSO AMONG OUR DELEGATION. I
HAVE RECEIVED QUESTIONS, IS THIS REQUIRED BY MDHR? IS THIS A PART OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT? THIS DOESN'T FEEL CLEAR. IS THIS A DIRECT REQUIREMENT. WHAT WE HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND TODAY THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR FACILITIES ASSESSMENT, AND THEN
THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO IMPROVE WELLNESS AND TRAINING. BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR APPROVE A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT FOR A WELLNESS FACILITY. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UNDER THE SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT IS PROVIDE THE FINANCES NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE IT. AND ONE QUESTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ANSWERED OR EVEN ASKED IS IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE MORE FINANCIALLY
FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE ON TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THIS BODY HAS -- BECAUSE I DO TAKE ISSUE RESPECTFULLY WITH THE REMARK
FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT SHE DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE APPROVED BY ELEFA. THAT IS FOR ELEFA TO DETERMINE. THAT IS WHY THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT BODY. THAT IS NOT FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S NO OTHER PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED. I FELT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO SAY BECAUSE I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE
INDEPENDENT NATURE OF OUR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE MANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO GO FORWARD. I FEEL LIKE WEAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION NECESSARY ABOUT THE
NEEDS OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND OUR SHARED VALUES IN FULFILLING THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. BUT IT JUST DSN'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS READY FOR PRIME TIME TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS CALLED THE QUESTION. THIS IS NOT
A DEBATABLE MOTION. I WILL ASK THE CLERK, IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBERPAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> NO. >> VETAW. >> NO. >> OSMAN. >> AYE.
>> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> NAY. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE.
>> 8 AYES AND 4 NAYS. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE UNDERLYING QUESTION. ON THE AMENDED MOTION BY WONSLEY AND
CHOWDHURY FOR TRAFFIC SETY FOR ALL, MR. CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL -- OR MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> NO. >> VETAW. >> NO.
>> OSMAN. >> NO. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> NO. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI.
>> AYE. >> THE SEVEN AYES AND FIVE NAYS. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. COLLEAGUES, WE ARE -- THIS WAS A REALLY LONG DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. SO AND I'M SEEING THAT PEOPLE ARE NEEDING A LITTLE
BIT OF A BREAK. SO WE'RE GOI TO RECESS FOR EXACTLY 15 MINUTES. RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT 12:22, AND WE'RE GOING TO RESTART. AND THANK YOU
ALL.
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>> [GAVEL] >> WELCOME BACK, COLLEAGUES. WE'RE READYO CONTINUE WITH THE MARKUP PACKET. NEXT UP, WE HAVE
AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAVEZ AND OSMAN RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE. I WILL RECOG RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. INITIALLY THE GOAL WAS TO
RESTORE THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THE MAYOR CUT IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET IN AUGUST. WE KNOW THE COMMUNICATIONS CONFERENCE ISN IMPORTANT GATHERING WHERE A VARIETY OF US COME TOGETHER TO ENGAGE WITH THE
CITY ENTERPRISE. IT IS ACCESSIBLE. IT IS FREE. AND IT IS IMPORTANT. WE WERE GOING TO RESTORE THE FUNDING FOR THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT WAS VERY HIGH
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATIONS WAS SETTING UP FOR THIS YEAR AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO SET THEM UP WITH LAST-MINUTE PLANNING. I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO ENTERTAIN THE FURTHER RESOLUTION AND LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. I DO NOT WANT TO COME BACK INTO THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR WHEN WE WANT TO RESTORE THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE.
SO THE FIRST THING IS ASKING THE RESOLUTION FOR US AS A CITY COUNCIL TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE. THE SECOND COMPONENT IS BASICALLY A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE ASKING FOR INFORMATION TO PROVIDE US INFORMATION REGARDING ANY FUTURE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS
CONFERENCE. AND IN RESPONSE T THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION EXPRESSING STATEMENTS OF POSITION PERTAINING TO THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE. I WANT TO READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION AND WHY THIS COMMUNICATION IS
IMPORTANT. SO I'LL JUST READ THE RESOLUTION AND SUPPORTS REINSTATING THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE IN 2027. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE IS A FREE EVENT THAT CONNECTS RESIDENTS OF
MINNEAPOLIS GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. B IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIS CONFERENCE BRINGS IN PEOPLE WHO ARE OFTEN UNDERREPRESENTED IN DECISION MAKING TO MEET LEADERS IN A
FRIENDLY, LOW STRESS SPACE AND LEARN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED AND GAIN NEW SKILLS AND RESOURCES. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THIS EVENT BRINGS DIVERSE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER IN 2023. 942 PEOPLE ATTENDED WITH 56% OF ATTENDING IDENTIFYING AS
PEOPLEF COLOR OF THOSE WHO COMPLETED THE SURVEY. IN 2024, 1,424 PEOPLE ATTENDED WITH 56% IDENTIFIED AS THOSE PEOPLE OF COLOR FOR THOSE WHO COMPLETED
THE SURVEY. AND THE 2027-2028 BUDGET REQUEST. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE BOTH THESE ITEMS FOR APPROVAL AND WE WILL NOT BE BRINGING A FUNDING RESOLUTION OF THAT, BUT WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF ITEXT YEAR. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND. I WILL CLARIFY THEIR THAT THIS IS A ZERO DOLLAR AMENDMENT. THE AUTHORS WERE AMENABLE TO GETTING THIS --
GETTING THEIR AMENDMENT, WHICH INITIALLY WAS ABOUT FULLY RESTORING THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE WITHDRAWN
AND MANG SURE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION, EXPRESSING A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE COMMUNITY CONFERENCE INTO THE FUTURE ALONG WITH LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE REQUESTING
THE MAYOR'S REACTION TO THE RESOLUTION IF IT IS APPROVED. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO LOOK TO SEE IF COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I AM
NOGOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION TODAY. I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE SHOULD EVOLVE AND BE DONE IN MORE DECENTRALIZED WAYS, MORE INNOVATIVE WAYS, AND I
THINK THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS CONFERENCE IS A LOT OF EFFORT FOR WUS JOIN US EVENT AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT HELD AT THE CONVENTION CENTER WOULD B BETTER SPENT ACTUALLY MEETING COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE AT IN
THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. WHAT I'LL SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT COMMENT IS I BELIEVE WE CAN
DO BOTH. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT DOES DEEP ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT REALLY BRINGS SO MANY PEOPLE TO A LOCATION TO ENGAGE, TO LEARN, TO TAL WITH
CITY STAFF WHERE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT NOT TO DO THAT CREDIBLE WORK. THE REASON WE BELIEVE IN RESTORING THE FUNDING IS WE STRONGLY BELIEVE WE CAN AND SHOULD BE DOING BOTH. I KNOW FOR A FACT
THIS YEARLY EVENT THAT I AM SAD IS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS I GET TO SEE A VARIETY OF MY CONSTITUENTS FROM LITTLE EARTH, FOLKS ADVOCATI FOR IMMIGRANT JUSTICE, NEIGHBORS FOR
ADVOCATING FOR THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THAT. >> NKS I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I
THINK LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ SAID, WE CAN DO BOTH. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAS PARTICIPATED IN COMMUNITY CONNECTIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE COMMUNITY COME AND THEY CAN TALK TO THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THEY CAN TALK ABOUT RENTAL RIGHTS. THIS
SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS CESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENT. DO I THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED LOCATION WISE? YES, I THINK IT SHOULD BE HELD SOMEWHERE WHERE BUSES HAVE, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO BUSES SOMEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE THERE IS SPACE ENOUGH TO BE CREATIVE.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT JUST TRYING TO SEE WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE ON THE MAYOR'S SIDE TO CUT THAT. I THINK IT WILL
AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE WILL HEAD INTO THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT EXPERIENCE. AND I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR HOSTING IT, PROMOTING IT, CONNECTING TO THE RESIDENTS, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN RESTORE IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. >> -- SLASH AMENDMENT TO -- I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF
THE PREMIER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS OF THE CITY. AND I THINK IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND LEARN, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING CLEARLY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH CITY STAFF AROUND A VARIETY OF ISSUES. SO HOPEFULLY FUNDING CAN BE RESTORED TO THIS
SIGNATURE EVENT NEXT YEAR. >> THANK YOU. I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN CUE. WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. WONSLEY, AYE. RAINVILLE, AYE.
VETAW, AYE. OSMAN, AYE. CASHMAN, NO. JENKINS, AYE. CHEZ, AYE. CHOWDHURY, AYE. PALMISANO, AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE.
>> THERE ARE 11 AYES, ONE NAY. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAVEZ AND WONSLEY
RELATED TO IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICES. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, PLEASE PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. THIS AMENDMENT IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING HARD TO INCREASE FOR THE
PAST FEW YEARS BY AN ADDITIONAL $121,114 IN ONGOING FUNDING FOR IMMIGRATION AND LEGAL SERVICES TO MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. I'M PROUD TO OFFER THIS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE OF FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT,
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ROSS THE CITY THIS YEAR. AND WE DRAFTED THIS AMENDMENT INITIALLY TO INCREASE IT BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN A NEED IMPACTS OUR IMMIGRANT SIDENTS. AND THIS WEEK HAS BEEN EXTRA HARD FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYBODY
SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ENOUGH OF THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE NEED TO SERVE OUR IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS. I AM HAVING MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH A LOT OF OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORHOODS,
RESIDENTS THAT EVEN THE AMOUNT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE TODAY IS NOT ENOUGH TO MEET THAT NEED. SO WHILE I WILL BE ASKING ALL OF YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT TODAY, I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR MORE FUNDING AS WE HEAD TO
THE FINAL MEETING OF THIS BUDGET ADOPTION ON TUESDAY. I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW WHO ARE BEING KIDNAPPED BY THIS DISGUSTING FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION WHO IS LITERALLY PICKING UP OUR NEIGHBORS OFF THE
STREETS. WE HAVE DUE PROCESS BEING STRIPPED AWAY FROM TIM GRANT NEIGHBORS. AND WE HAVE A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WE KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO STEP UP AS A CITY ENTERPRISE.
ONE OF THOSE WAYS AND ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE A CITY TO DO IS BY INCREASING THE FUNDING FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS. AND WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SEE A NEED FOR THE SERVICES.
WE KNOW THAT WE DO NOT HAV ENOUGH IN OUR CITY AND EVEN WITH THIS INCREASE, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. AND I WILL ASK ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND ALSO HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING BEFORE THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET CAUSE THIS NEED HAS ONLY
INCREASED THIS PAST WEEK. THANK YOU. >> AND YOU'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> WE WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> AN I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN.
>> THANK YOU. CVP CHUGHTAI, ALSO THANK YOU TO THE LEA AUTHOR COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOR WORKING TO BRINGHIS FORWARD AND ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS THE BARE MINIMUM THAT WE CAN BE DOING TO MEET WHAT HAS BECOME
A VERY CLEAR NEED AMONGST OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY BEING TERRORIZED IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN LIGHT OF TRUMP'S MOST RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT HAS DEPLOYED FEDERAL
AGENTS TO TARGET VERY SPECIFIC COMMUNITY GROUPS WITHIN MINNEAPOLIS. AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THE TARGETING THAT YOU VERY MUCH DESCRIBED AS PEOPLE BEING KIDNAPPED.
AND I'M PART OF MANY GROUPS THAT ARE BEING FORMED RIGHT NOW. AND I AM ALSO WANT TO SAY I AM SO PROUD OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS WHO ARE SHOWING UP AND BUILDING NETWORKS OF SUPPORT IN SOLIDARITY IN REAL TIME TO
FIGURE OUT HOW WE DEFEND OUR RESIDENTS FROM BEING KIDNAPPED BY FEDERAL AGENTS, MANY OF WHICH DON'T EVEN IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WHO ARE DISREGARDING AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED DUE PROCESS. AND IT'S BEEN BOTH DISHEARTENING
AND SADDENING TO WATCH MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THESE PAST COUPLE DAYS DRIVE AROUND MINNEAPOLIS TRYING TO LOCATE WHERE ICE IS, WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO CARRY OUT THEIR DEPORTATION OR DETAINMENT OPERATIONS, AND TO
SEE YOU ALL FIELD QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING SCARED TO SHOW UP TO THEIR ICE APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES FOR LITERALLY FOLLOWING THE IMMIGRATION PROCESS WE HAVE SET OUT BEFORE THEM.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE LEADERSHIP AND I KNOW THIS IS INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING TIME FOR OUR CITY FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS. BUT I AM SO THANK TO FEEL SEE THAT OUR CITY AGAIN IS UNITED IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR MOST
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES KNOW THEY ARE CARED FOR AND THEY MATTER. THIS IS ONE PIECE THAT WE CAN DO PROGRAMMATICALLY TO SHOW THEM THAT THEIR CITY STANDS BEHIND THEM AND WE'RE, AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED, LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO BUMP THIS UP AS WELL. AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO SUPPORTING AND INCREASING THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IMMIGRANT HAVE A PLACE THERE TO DEFEND THEIR RIGHT TO EXIST, TO LIVE, TO HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE. AND IN SPITE OF WHAT THIS FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION DOES. SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZCOUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. IT'S BEEN REALLY TOUGH FOR MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE BEING TARGETED BY WHAT
THEY LOOK LIKE OR PRESIDENT HAS CALLED THEM DIRECTLY BY NAME. DEGRADING THEM AS LESS THAN HUMAN. CALLING SOMALI COMMUNITY
GARBAGE AND ALL THE OTHER HORRIBLE WORDS THAT HE USED. SO WE NEED EVERYONE'S HELP AND ANY HELP WE CAN GET, I THINK THE CITY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE WITH CITY
LEADERS WHO WERE AMAZING. WE SENT OUT A CLEAR MESSAGE. IT'S U.S. CITIZENS TALKING ABOUT THE U.S. CITIZEN. MY FRIENDS, MY RESIDENTS ARE BEING STOPPED ON THE STREETS
RIGHT NOW. BEING ASKED ABOUT DOCUMENTATION. AND I AM GETTING MY PASSPORT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, SO NO ONE IS SAFE. AND THIS IS WHEN WE NEED OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
NON-EAST AFRICAN, NON-LATINO. AMERICAN CITIZENS OR FELLOW CITIZENS IN MINNEAPOLIS TO STAND UP WITH YES I MINNESOTA. AND HISTORY WILL WTE THIS TARGETING ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
JUST DON'T BE SILENT. AND DON'T BE SILENT. SAY SOMETHING. REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS. DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP MY COMMUNITY. AND I ENCOURAGE EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT TO DO YOUR
BEST TO SEE WHO YOU CAN HELP. THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, NEEDS ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET. THERE'S PLENTY OF PHONE CALLS. PEOPLE ARE SENDING AND DON'T
KNOW WHERE TO TURN FOR HELP. ONE OF THE SADDEST THINGS THAT I GOT WAS A RANDOM TEXT MESSAGE FROM A RESIDENT WHO SAY THEY HAVE BEEN DETAINED. PLEASE
HELP. SO MANY DIFFERENT MESSAGES. DON'T REALLY WANT TO SHARE ALL THE HORRIE STORIES HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S REAL. SO I DO WANT TO SAY PEOPLE ARE
HURTING YOUR FELLOW RESIDENTS AND FELLOW NEIGHBORS ARE BEING TARGETED. THAT IS REALITY OF IT. IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOU SEE IN THE NEWS IS THAT I'M HERE. I'M RIGHT HERE. MY COMMUNITY, MY FAMILY, WE ALL SCARED OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN QUEUE. ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THIS ITEM.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. >>WONSLEY, AYE. RAINVILLE, AYE. >> AWE VETAW, AYE. OSMAN, AYE. CASHMAN, AYE. JENKINS, AYE. CHAVEZ, AYE. CHOWED DHOUD, AYE. PALMISANO, AYE. VICE CHAIR
KOSKI, AYE. CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. THAT IS 12 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NEXT WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 OFFERED BY -- OR AMENDMENT NUMBER 10, I
APOLOGIZE, OFFERED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AND COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE AFFAIRS STAFFING. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE TO PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION.
>> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT REALLY SPOKE TO THE NEED HERE, AND I THINK, AGAIN, WHETHER IT IS LEGAL SERVIS OR FULL-TIME STAFF, WE ARE IN CRISIS RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN ALWAYS DO MORE AND THIS IS MY ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO FULFILL OUR NEEDS AND MEET THIS MOMENT. THIS IS FOR A FULL-TIME STAFFER TO STAFF UP OUR CAPACITY WITHIN THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE AFFAIRS. I HAVE MADE A REALLY CONCERTED EFFORT
THIS TERM TO BUILD A DEEPE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ECUADORIAN COUNCIL, WHICH IS HOSTED IN MY WARD. I JOIN THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO DO A RESOURCE FAIR. THAT WAS A COMMITMENT I MADE TO THE AMBASSADOR, BUT EVEN NEXT WEEK IS THE NEXT TIME THAT THE
CITY IS SCHEDULED TO BE THERE. I HAVE AUDIT COMMITTEE, SO I CAN'T MISS AUDIT COMMITTEE AS THE CHAIR. IT WILL BE STAFF THAT WILL BE THERE TO FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT. AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN IT'S
JUST BEEN ME, ME AND MY STAFF. I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STAFF CAPACITY WHEN IT COMES TO BILINGUAL UNDERSTANDING, BUT THAT'S LIKE
CHILDHOOD LEVEL -- I WENT TO A SPANISH IMMERSION SCHOOL. I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT OF SPANISH, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT DEDICATED, COMMITTED STAFF, WHAT'S BEEN GREAT IS BUILDING AN ACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE AMBASSADOR. AND IT TAKES THAT
TYPE OF FULL FOCUS OF PEOPLE'S TIME TO BUILD THE TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS AT WE NEED TO HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT IN THIS MOMENT THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN REALLY PROFOUND IS THE SENSE OF POWEESSNESS. AS WE SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
RUN THRGH OUR COMMUNITY, KIDNAPPING PEOPLE, AND THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO IS SOMETHING THAT I REJECT. AND I THINK THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO SINGULARLY SAVE US IS ALSO NOT'S TRUE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP
US SAFE. OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO KEEP US SAFE AND BE IN PARTNERSHIP TO STAND UP FOR THE DIGNITY OF EVERY SINGLE MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENT REGARDLESS OF THEIR STATUS. THAT REQUIRES A NEED FOR RELATIONSHIPS AND A
NEED FOR FULL-TIME STAFF TO GET THE TIME, ENERGY, AND FOCUS. SO I HOPE I CAN EARN EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. I'M GRATEFUL TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR CO-AUTHORING THIS AMENDMENT AND THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT THAT THEY BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE
AN ALL HANDS ON DECK MOMENT. T >> THANK YOU. AND YOU'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> AND I MOVE APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> NOT SEEING IN, I'LL ASK THE
CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. WONSLEY, AYE. RAINVILLE, AYE. VETAW, AYE. OSMAN, AYE. CASHMAN, AYE. JENKINS, AYE. CHAVEZ, AYE.
CHOWDHURY, AYE. PALMISANO, AYE. VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS2 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT WE ARE MOVING TO THE NEXT TWO
AMENDMENTS ARE REVISED VERSIONS, SO THESE REVISIONS WERE A PRODUCT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. SINCE THEY ARE BOTH, THIS IS ABOUT RELATED TO SPEAK MINNEAPOLIS AND CULTURAL MEDIA AS THEY ARE RELATED TO THE
COMMUNICATNS DEPARTMENT AND THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TOGETHER. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE TAKE UP BOTH AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 AND AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 TOGETHER. THESE ARE OFFERED BY COUNCIL
MEMBERS CHOWDHURY, PRESIDENT PAYNE, AND MYSELF. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, WILL YOU PLEASE PRESENT AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 AND 12 AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I REALLY APPRECIATE
THE CO-AUTHORS FOR JOINING ME IN THIS EFFORT. AND COLLEAGUES, SKI FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO RESTORE FUNDING THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE CUT TO BOTH SPEAK MPLS PUBLIC ACCESS AND CULTURAL RADIO.
SPEAK MPLS IS OUR PUBLIC ACCESS MEDIA TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OFFERS OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS OM DIFFERENT CULTURAL BACKGROUNDS, FROM DIFFERENT ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS,
AND AO OFFERS CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO LEARN HOW TO CREATE MEDIUM OF THEIR OWN, TO TAKE CLASSES, TO HAVE THEIR OWN PODCASTS. TO SHARE INFORMATION AND TO TELL THEIR STORIES. AND I FELT IT WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE IN A MOMENT IN TIME WHERE WE HAVE SEEN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKE A DECISION TO NO LONGER FUND PUBLIC BROADCAST, IT'S REALLY, REALLY PERTINENT THAT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE
NIMAL FUNDING THAT WE DO GIVE TO CULTURAL MEDIA AND SPEAK MINNEAPOLIS. THIS ORGANIZATION IS RUN BY LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS WITH A STAFF TEAM FROM OUR
COMMUNITY. AND IN 2019 WHEN THEY FIRST RECEIVED THE RFF, THEY STARTED OUT WITH A BUDGET OF $472,000 A YEAR, AND HAS REQUESTED SINCE THAT TIME FOR A 3% INCREASE AND THAT HAS NOT
BEEN ABLE TO BE MADE R VARYING FACTORS. BUT IT HAS STAYED FLAT, AND THEY HAVE HAD TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO MORE WITH LESS. CONSISTENTLY THIS ORGANIZATION HAS ALSO GIVEN THEIR STAFF COST OF LIVING RAISES AS THE COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP. AND AGAIN,
BEING ASKED TO DO MORE WITH LESS. AND THEY SHARED AN IMPACT STATEMENT TO THIS BODY THAT SAID THIS CUT WOULD LEAD THEM TO NO LONGER HAVE RISE MPLS, A PAID INTERNSHIP, LEADERSHIP
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM F MINNEAPOLIS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND THAT WOULD HAVE A REDUCTION OF 10 SLOTS DOWN TO SEVEN. TEACH MPLS THE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES FREE AND LOW COST CLASSES IN VIDEO PRODUCTION AND
MEDIA LITERACY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THEY MADE THE CHOICE BECAUSE OF THE OPERATIONAL THINGS TO CONTRACT OUT FOR THE ATTORNEYS. AND THE COST OF THE ATTORNEYS ANNUALLY IS THIS CUT. IT'S ABOUT 12,000.
SO IN A MOMENT IN TIME WHERE THEY'RE DOING MORE WITH LESS AND FRANKLY, WE SHOULD SEE AN INCREASE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THIS FUNDING. I WAS PROPOSING AN ONGOING ALLOCATION, BUT IN CONVERSATIONS
WITH COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY'VE AGREED TO A ONE-TIME ALLOCATION WITH A COMMITMENT THAT IN 2027 WE CONTINUE TO RESTORE FUNDING. I WOULD HOPE TO FIND WAYS TO
INCREASE IT WE CONTINUE TO NOT ONLY BROADEN THIS AMAZING SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO REACH OUR COMMUNITIES IN A MOMENT WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE SHOULD HAVE CULTURAL MEDIA AND
CULTURAL RADIO IN MONG, SOMAL SPANISH, AND TO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES ABT THE COMMUNITY AND TO KNOW THEIR RIGHTS. I FEEL THAT IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE -- SORRY. MY
BLOOD SUGAR IS SO LOW. APOLOGIES, COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS BECAUSE I AM HAVING MY
MOMENT OF BRAIN FOG. I HOPE TO EARN YOUR SUPPORT. HERE IS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION WITHIN THE PACKET. AND I ALSO HOPE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT CONTINUING THIS FUNDING INTO FUTURE YEARS. >> WILL YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL SEE A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS IN QUEUE. I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY TAKE CARE OF HER NEEDS AND IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THIS
AMENDMENT, WILL TAKE THEM. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THESE TWO ANDMENTS HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO ONE-TIME FUNDING BECAUSE OF THAT CHANGE AND GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THESE TODAY AND I STILL WANTED
TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. AND THIS EARMARK OF $25,000 BETWEEN THE TWO AMOUNT AND THE CONTRACTUAL ALLOCATION TO SPEAK MINNEAPOLIS. IT STILL LEAVES THEM WITH FUNDING OF $460,000.
OUR COMS TEAM HAS TO ABSORB A CUT IN THIS WAY. AN EARMARK IS A CUT. IT'S A CUT TO ITS OWN CITY SERVICES. AND THIS CUT IS -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT PERCENTAGE AND MAYBE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION. OF THE
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT'S DISCRETIONARY BUDGET, THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT WHEN PAIRED TOGETHER. AND THIS TAKES AWAY AN EARMARK IS A CUT IN THIS CASE TO THE COMMUNITYCATION DEPARTMENT'S DISCRETIONARY BUDGET. COULD STAFF OR SOMEBODY OR MAYBE
YOU, MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THOSE DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS ARE CURRENTLY USED FOR? IST USED FOR OTHER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES WE WILL HAVE TO DO LES OF? I SEE ADAM IN THE AUDIENCE. I AM NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS. >> WE HAVE AND HAVE TALKED WITH
FINANCE ABOUT THIS QUITE EXTENSIVELY. THIS, THE PLACE WHERE THESE ARE PLACED RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES BUDGET FORHE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS A PART OF A
$70,000 POT OF MONEY THAT IS USED FOR A.V. REPLACEMENT AND -- MR. FLETCHER, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, MEMBERS OF
THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE A LIMITED DISCRETIONARY BUDGET OF $70,000 TO PAY FOR THE PAIR MINIMUM OF TOOLS AND SERVICES WE RELY ON TO BE A PROFESSIOL COMMUNICATIONS SHOP, WHICH INCLUDES TOOLS FOR
MEDIA CONTACTS, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTING. BEING ABLE TO SCHEDULE POSTING AND CERTAIN NEEDS IN TERMS OF THE BASIC EQUIPMENT FOR CONTENT CREATION. AS THE CHAIR SUGGESTED, SO YEAH, I THINK IN ALL TOLD, THE COMBINED $25,000
EARMARK HERE WOULD BE 26% CUT FROM THAT MODEST DISCRETIONARY BUDGET. >> SO THEN, MR. FLETCHER, HOW TO YOU PLAN TO ABSORB THE AMENDMENTS? WILL IT MEAN LESS SOCIAL MEDIA? WILL IT MEAN CONTINUING TO BE USING AN
OUTDATED TOOL? HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ABSORB THAT? >> WELL, IT WILL REQUIRE A CHOICE BETWEEN EITHER IMPACTING THAT MODEST DISCRETIONARY BUDGET OR LOOKING AT PERSONNEL COSTS. IF IT IMPACTS THE DISCRETIONARY BUDGET, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT
IN THAT IT WILL REQUIRE US TO USE MORE OUTDATED TOOLS OR NOT UPGRADE EQUIPMENT WHEN THE NEED COMES IF WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT CEASES TO FUNCTION. FOR EXAMPLE, A.V. OR VIDEO EQUIPMENT, WE MAY NEED TO AVOID
REPLACING THAT OR MAKE DO WITH LESS EQUIPMENT. SO YEAH, IT'S A MEANINGFUL COST TO OUR OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF GETTING THE CITY'S MESSAGE OUT. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS FOR THE TIME.
>> MR. FLETCHER, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, REAL QUICK, SO I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL STAFF WITHIN THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT SUPPORT SOME OF THE WORK WE DO HERE WITH OUR LIVE BROADCASTING AND COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.
SO AM I REMEMBERING OR AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT YOU DO CURRENTLY HAVE A VACANCY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT DUE TO A PROMOTION TYPE SITUATION? >> WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING SOME REORGANIZATION. >> GOTCHA.
>> SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ROLES THAT ARE CURRENTLY POSTED. NUMBER OF THOSE ROLES THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS INTERNAL PROMOTIONS. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FILLED T. WE DO HAVE ONE VACANCY, WHICH IS A ROLE THAT WAS PART OF THE UNIFICATION AND CAME FROM REGULATORY SERVICES.
A DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR, WHICH WE'RE WORKING TO FILL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY A WAY THAT YOU COULD ABSORB THIS ONE TIME APPROPRIATION OF EARMARK OF
$25,000 IS THROUGH SOME OF THE VACANCY SAVINGS THAT YOU WILL LIKELY HAVE BECAUSE THOSE POSITIONS, ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE BILLED BY JANUARY 1 WHEN YOU GET ACCESS TO THE BUDGET. >> CORRECT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE VERYPPRECIATE THE CHANGE TO
A ONE-TIME VERSUS ONGOING. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN? >> YEAH, THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DO WANT TO ASK THE ITEMS THAT ARE PASSED NINE, 10, AND 11 IF I CAN
CO-AUTHOR, PLEASE. AND I DO SUPPORT THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I THINK CULTURAL MEDIA IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT. WE HAVE SEEN THE INFORMATION
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING WHEN THEY RECEIVE A LANGUAGE THEY UNDERSTAND. AND THEIR ALGORITHM, LET'S JUST SAY THE ALGORITHM, LIKE PEOPLE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SEE A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, RIGHT, AND IF YOU ARE --
IF YOU ARE SPANISH SPEAKING, SOMALI SPEAKING, THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IS SPANISH SPEAKING AND SOMALI SPEAKING. THAT IS JUST THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY E GETTING THE SERVICES AND CITIES PROVIDING.
NOT JUST THE ONE CHANNEL, BUT MULTIPLE CHANNELS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY WHAT YOU ARE HOPING TO CO-AUTHOR BECAUSE I AM CERTAIN THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE CLERKS.
YOU WOULD LIKE TO CO-AUTHOR IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICES. CHAVEZ-WONSLEY, CORRECT? AND YOU ARE ALREADY A CO-AUTHOR OF THE IMMIGRANT REFUGEE. AND DO YOU WANT TO DO BOTH OF THE SPEAK MPLS AND CULTURAL MEDIA? THAT IS AWESOME. CLERKS, WE'VE GOT
THAT? >> THAT IS PERFECT. APPRECIATE IT. >> WONDERFUL. I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN QUEUE, SO ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 AND 12, SPEAK MPLS AND CULTURAL MEDIA -- OH, I AM SO SORRY. COUNCIL
MEMBER JENKINS. >> I WANT TO BE NAMED AS A CO-AUTHOR ON 11 AND 12. >> WE'VE GOT THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 AND 12, SPEAK MPLS AND
CULTURAL MEDIA, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. WONSLEY, AYE. RAINVILLE, AYE. VETAW, AYE. OSMAN, AYE. CASHMAN, AYE. JENKINS, AYE.
CHAVEZ, AYE. CHOWDHURY. PALMISANO, AYE. VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. CHOWDHURY.
COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY IS JUST IN THE BACK, MADAM CHAIR. >> I SEE HER WALKING OUT. ALL GOOD. >> DOES THAT COUNT? >> THANK YOU. AND CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS2 AYES.
>> THANK YOU. OR THAT MOTION PASSES. NEXT WE ARE GOING TO ME TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 13 WHICH IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW RELATED TO FOURTH PRECINCT MOBILE CAMERAS. AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A
SERIES OF CHANGES THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE, SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. AND MAKE A MOTION. >>HANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS IM
IS IN RESPONSE TO A REALLY BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE I NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AROUND DUMPING. I HAVE ASKED FOR A COUPLE ADDITIONAL MILESTONE MOBILE CAMERAS. I AM SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THEM, THE CAMERAS THAT GET
WHEELED AROUND IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, I EVERY HAD PROBABLY MORE DUMPING COMPLAINTS THAN ANYTHING. AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE SOMEBODY DROPPED A BAG OF TRASH. I MEAN LIKE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF GARBAGE BEING DUMPED IN PLACES IN NORTH
MINNEAPOLIS.
A LOCATION THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN CLEANING UP OFTEN, AND WE JU RODE BY AND IT WAS COMPLETELY CLEAN. 10 MINUTES AFTER WE LEFT, I GOT A CALL SAYING 40 MATTRESSES HAVE BEEN
DUMPED ON THIS SITE. DUMPING IS A REAL ISSUE IN MY WARD IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AS A WHOLE. THERE
IS A BIG ISSUE WITH SMALL BUSINESSES WHO HAVE DUMPING ON THEIR GROUNDS, THEY HAVE TO PAY A PRICE TO CLEAN IT UP. I GET LOTS OF COMPLAINTS FROM SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE SPENDING THOUSANDS WEEKLY TO HAVE THE DUMPING REMOVED IF GOAL IS TO
ADD A TWO MILESTONE CAMERAS. I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT ABOUT CAMERAS NOT BEING USED IN THE WINTER MONTHS. WE WILL
BE TRYING THIS OUT TO SEE. AND SOMETIMES THE CAMERAS ARE I AREA OF HIGH CRIME AND WE CAPTURE THE LICENSE PLATES OF THE PEOPLE DUMPING OR CAPTURE THE PEOPLE DUMPING ON THE CAMERAS. THIS ISN'T A LONG-TERM FIX BY NO MEANS.
THIS IS HOPEFULLY A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION. I DID A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO FIGURE OUT OPPORTUNITIES AROUND DUMPING. NOTHING REALLY CAME OF THAT. IT IS AN ISSUE THAT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE BUT FOR NOW I REALLWOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW
WE COULD USE A COUPLE MORE MILESTONE CAMERAS AND CUR B SOME OF THE DUMPING. >> THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU ALSO WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT A
MORE IMMEDIATE SOLUTION WITH ADMINISTRATION ON THIS AND WORKING ON MOVING A COUPLE OF -- I THINK IT'S THE MOBILE CAMERAS TO T FOURTH PRECINCT AND THAT
IS OUTLINED IMMEDIATELY IN THE LETTER THE MAYOR SENT OVER YESTERDAY TO MAKE A COMMITMENT HE IS DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.
>> THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN HELPFUL ABOUT THIS AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS FOR FOUR YEARS. >> I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WE HAVE -- ARE YOU GOING TO WITHDRAW THIS AMENDMENT? IS THIS GOING TO CONTINUE? >> NO, I PLAN TO WITHDRAW THE
AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE LETTER IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD. TYPICALLY THEY PUT THE CAMERAS AWAY IN THE WINTER MONTHS. THAT THEY ARE AGREEING TO IS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT IN THE WINTER BASICALLY.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW HAS WITHDRAWN AMENDMENT NUMBE 13. AND WE ARE INCLUDE THE LETTER FROM MAYOR FREY ON NORTH SIDE ILLEGAL DUMPING AND THIS INTERIM
SOLUTION WE WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WHY WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT AMENDMENT, BUT THIS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATIVE FILE
ON THE BUDGET. NEXT UP, AMENDMENT 14 BY VAIN RAINVILLE AND VETAW WITH CRIME
SPECIALISTS. AND COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WILL PRESENT THIS MOTION. >> THIS IS ABOUT TWO CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT AND THE OTHER IN THE FIRST PRECINCT. I WILL SPEAK TO NEEDS OTHE FOURTH PRECINCT. IT HAS THREE WARDS, WARD 7, 5, AND WARD 4. WE
CURRENTLY HAVE TWO CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, BUT THERE IS A GREAT NEED FOR A THIRD WITH BRYN MAWR BEING A PART OF WHO WE NEED FOR CRIME PREVENTION AND WHO USES CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS ALSO. AND THE CRIME PREVENTION
SPECIALIST DOES A LOT OF THINGS FOR US IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT AROUND PROBLEM PROPERTIES AND ISSUES WITH DUMPING. AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GRATEFUL WE GET TO DEPLOY THE ISSUES TO
CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS AND NOT M.P.D. IT FREES UP A LOT OF TIME FOR M.P.D. TO WORK ON OTHER THINGS. THERE IS A GREAT NEED TO HAVE THREE WARDS IN OUR PRECINCT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE HAS
SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT NEEDS. AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> WONDERFUL. NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YES, SO I'VE ASK TO BE ON THIS WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW BECAUSE THE NEED IN THE FIRST PRECINCT HAS GROWN. ELLIOTT PARK, LORING PARK, AND THE CIVILIAN SPECIALS WORK SO WELL AND WILL BE HELPFUL IN DAMPING DOWN THE CRIME IN
THOSE AREAS. I APPRECIATES FOR A VOTE ON THIS TO HELP OUT. >> NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER BARNETTE TO COME UP ON THIS ITEM. MY QUESTION IS, COMMISSIONER, IF THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT PASSES, IT, WILL YOU IMPLEMENT AND HIRE NEW CRIME SPECIALISTS IN THE FIRST AND FOURTH PRECINCTS?
>> CHAIR -- >> A FIRST BEGIN BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF. >> TODD BARNETTE, COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, IT WOULD BE OUR INTENT
TO HIRE FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS THE -- THE REAL LIMITATION IS WE NORMALLY TRY TO GOT DO IT GEE GRAPHICALLY BUT DO IT BY NEED. SO I GET THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT
IN THE FIRST AND FOURTH PRECINCT, DON'T GET ME WRONG. THE NEED COULD BE GREAT THERE, BUT IN GENERAL, WHERE WE WOULD DEPLOY ADDITIONAL STAFF WOULD BE
WHERE THE NEED WOULD GO. >> WHICH HAS HAD THE LARGEST INCREASE IN CRIME? AM I CORRECT IN THE FIFTH PRECINCT? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT SHOWS ROBBERIES, CAR-RELATED
THEFTS AND OTHER THINGS HAVE SPIKED IN THE FIFTH PRECINCT. LAST BUDGET CYCLE WE ALLOCATED FUNDING TO HIRE A SECOND CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALIST IN THE FIFTH PRECINCT AND THAT PERSON WAS NEVER HIRED. THE HOURS OF
THE FIFTH PRECINCT SPECIALIST WERE HIRED. >> THERE THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, AT THIS TIME THERE IS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. AND THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF HOW THAT DECISION WAS MADE, I DON'T
REMEMBER RIGHT NOW. >> I'M GOING TO NEED SOME INFORMATION ON THAT DECISION IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. ARD SEVEN HAS PRECINCT FOUR, ONE, AND FIVE IN IT. FOURTH PRECINCT HAS TWO CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS. DOWNTOWN IS THE SMALLEST
PRECINCT. FIFTH PRECINCT, ON THE OTHER HAND S THE PRECINCT THAT HAS THE HIGHEST SPIKES IN CRIME IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND HAS THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS RESOURCES PER CAPITA. LAST YEAR COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI AND I ALLOCATED MONEY TO HIRE A SECOND CRIME
PREVENTION SPECIALIST IN THE FIFTH PRECINCT RESPONDING TO THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN AND THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WAS INCREDIBLY COB
FUSING AND AS A COMMISSIONER -- CONFUSING AND IT IS WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY TO MAKE SHOWS DECISIONS. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT COME THROUGH MY DESK. THERE ARE LOT OF
DECISIONS IN ALL FIVE DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T REMEMBER EVERY SINGLE REASON BEHIND THOSE DECISIONS. I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. I JUST RIGHT NOW DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS.
>> I WOULD ASK FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FOLLOW-UP ON THAT QUESTION, CHAIR. >> WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR CLERKS NOTE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYTHING ELSE, CHAIR? >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION SNER >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOLLOWE >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO COMPARE WHERE
CRIME IS HAPPENING AND I GET, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, YOU GET TO ADVOCATE FOR THE FIFTH PRECINCT. I AM ADVOCATING FOR THE NEEDS OF THE FOURTH PRECINCT. I DON'T HAVE THE CRIME STATS AND I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC CRIME STATS. THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO NOT GENERATE MORE CRIME AND HAVE THE
CRIMEREVENTION SPECIALISTS INTERVENE BEFORE THINGS GET WORSE IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT. BRYN MAWR IS IN YOUR WARD. YOU REPRESENT THEM AND THERE IS A NEED. WE HAVE TWO. WE NEED THREE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FIVE, IN THE
ONE, NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FOURTH PRECINCT AND THERE IS A NEED. THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR FIVE. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE IS GET ONE MORE CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALIST TO HELP IN THE THREE WARDS THAT WE HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOU ALL'S LAST YEAR. I DO REMEMBER THAT. IF THAT HAD HAPPENED TO MINE, I WOULD HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A YEAR LATER AND EMBARRASS STAFF AND START TALKING ABOUT WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THIS FEELS LIKE
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED BEFORE YOU PIT IT AGAINST WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO HERE. IT IS NOT ABOUT ONE PRECINCT OR THE OTHER, BUT THE NEED OF WHAT I IMMEDIATE IN MY PRECINCT. AND I'VE TALKED TO COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT AND CHAIR OF BUDGET A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT THIS. I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD HAVE
SAID THIS TO MEHAT YOU ALL HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN THE LAST ME. I'M WATCHING YOU LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONER LIKE Y'ALL CAUGHT HIM IN SOME KIND OF LIE, WHEN YOU COULD HAVE SAID THIS DIDT WORK OUT FOR US LAST YEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. IS THIS
THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO IN? MAYBE THERE IS A DIFFERENT ROUTE FOR THIS. INSTEAD OF THIS PLAYING OUT LIKE THIS TODAY WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR SOMETHING. YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED FOR. YOU COULD HAVE SAID THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
CASHMAN, BUT INSTEAD, IT WAS DONE AND THE COMMISSIONER IS BROUT UP HERE TO,IKE, ON TRIAL TO BE CAUGHT IN A LIE OR WHATEVER. I DON'T LIKEIT. IT IS ABOUT RESOURCES INTO THE FOURTH PRECINCT THAT WE NEED.
I DON'T KNOW WHO NEEDS WHATEVER. I KNOW WHAT I NEED AND WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED FOR. ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS SUPPORT IT OR NOT. IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT, YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT OR DIDN'T GET. I AM
NOT SAYING SUPPORT ME BECAUSE Y DIDN'T. I'M SAYING THERE'S A NEED IN THE FOURTH WARD. I DON'T KNOW THE CRIME STATS FOR EVERYTHING. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT ALL THE CRIME PREVENTION
SPECIALISTS RESPONDED TO. I KNOW THEY WORK. THEY ARE VALUABLE. CRIME IS GOING DOWN IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING. >> NO ONE ELSE IS IN QUEUE. I
WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, NAY. >> WONSLEY, NAY. RAINVILLE, AYE. >> VETAW, AYE.
>> OSMAN, NO. >> CASHMAN, NO. >> JENKINS, AYE. >> CHAVEZ, NO. >> CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. >> NOPE, SHE'S HERE.
>> NAY. >> PALMISANO, AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, NAY. >> THAT IS FIVE AYES AND SEVEN
NAYS. >> THAT MOTION FAILS. NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 15 OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS
WONSLEY, CASHMAN, PRESIDENT PAYNE, AND COUNCIL MEMR OSMAN. RELATED TO RESTORING THE MAYOR'S CUTS TO CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. THIS AMENDMENT WILL INCLUDE THE STANDARD AMENDMENT FORMAT WITH
AN ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY TO PLEASE PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUG
LAST YEAR TO SUPPORT THE BACKLOG OF CASES IN RESPONSE BY SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HEARING FROM THOSE RESIDENTS THAT M.P.D. WAS NOT FOLLOWING BACK UP WITH THEM ON THE INDIVIDUAL CASES. AS OF NOW, M.P.D. HAS THOUSANDS OF UNSOLVED CASES INCLUDING
HUNDREDS OF OPEN CASES FOR HOMICIDES, SEX CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, ARSON AND OTHER EXTREMELY SYSTEM AND CRIMES AND THAT IS EACH A FAMILY
THAT HASN'T RECEIVED CLOSURE OR JUSTICE. THIS WILL HAVE EXPANDED M.P.D. CAPACITY AND MAMIZING STAFFING AND RESOURCES TO REDUCE THE EXTENSIVE BACKLOG AND ULTIMATELY SHARED CASES, WHICH IS A SHARED GOAL OF ALL OF US. AND M.P.D.
UNDER THE MAYOR'S DIRECTION ONLY HIRED THREE OF THE INVESTIGATORS DESPITE THEEED THAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED. AND CUT THE POSITIONS TO LOWER DOWN THE LEVY. THAT WAS A POOR DECISION OUTRIGHT. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY COUNTER TO M.P.D.'S OWN DATA AS
IT RELATES TO INVESTIGATIVE NEEDS. THIS AMENDMENTS WE STORES THE TWO POSITIONS THAT THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED TO CUT AND RECENTLY IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE RECEIVED A PRESENTATION IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN'S LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AND
CLEARANCE RATES THAT BASICALLY DEMONSTRATED THESE POSITIONS ARE DEEPLY NEEDED TO MEET THE GREAT COMMAND AROUND OUR BACKLOG CASES. AND TO ADDRESS OUR
PRETTY LOW CLEARANCE RATES. YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE NUMBERS, AND ALSO ACCOMPANYING THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS THE RESOLUTION TO TERMINATE U.S. INC. AND HIGHLIGHTS THE PUBLIC
AND HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THE PUBLIC HAS NOT SEEN BENEFIT FROM THIS PARTICULAR CONACT AND TO BE EXPAND M.P.D.'S CAPACITY TO CLEAR AND SOLVE CASES. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE BOTH MOTIONS
FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION FOR US. WE'LL MOVE TO DISCUSSION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. >> THANK YOU. I HELD MY COMMENTS ON THIS LAST ITEM AND BECAUSE OF MY SOURCE AND THE CONNECTION TO IT. I DIDN'T WANT
TO BRING ANY BIAS INTO THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK THERE IS RELEVANCY HERE IN NOT -- I WAS GENUINELY SHOCKED WHEN WE HAD THAT CASE CLOSURE PRESENTATION IN P.H.S. TO HEAR THAT. THE COMMANDER WAS NOT AUTHORIZED
FOR THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED. I -- I MEET MONTHLY WITH THE POLICE CHIEF. ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT I WAS RAISING ON A MONTHLY BASIS IS WHERE ARE THE CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALISTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED FOR THE FIFTH PRECINCT?
I SHOWED UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING ON MONDAY AND, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TO APOLOGIZE AND SAY, OH, I'M SORRY, OUR PRECINCT INSPECTOR IS NOT AVAILABLE. I'M SORRY, OUR CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALIST IS NOT AVAILABLE.
I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THAT CRIME PREVENTION SPECIALIST WAS. IT TURNED OUT IT WAS LATER REPORTED IN THE "STAR TRIBUNE" THEY HAD BEEN WORKING A SECOND JOB AND OVERBILLING OVERTIME AND HAVE SEPARATED FROM THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW ANY FURTHER DETAILS BEYOND WHAT'S REPORTED IN THE
"STAR TRIBUNE" BUT IT IS A REECTION OF A POOR SET OF OVERSIGHT AND LEADING TO COUNCIL ALLOCATING RESOURCES TO ACHIEVE A SPECIFIC COMMUNITY SAFETY OUTCOME AND OUR INABILITY TO ACHIEVE THAT. THIS SHOULD NOT
BE AN AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY BECAUSE WE MADE THE ALLOCATION LAST YEAR. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED. AND IT'S ONLY BEEN THIS WEEK SINCE HE GOT THE QUARTERLY REPORT WHERE WE SAW THE $19 MILLION COST OVERRUN, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GETTING AT POSITIONS
THAT WUR WEREN'T HELD. AND THAS A FORM OF TRANSPARENCY. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE THE DECISIONS THAT SEEM TO NOT MAKE SENSE THAT LATER LEARN THE REASON THEY MIGHT MAKE SENSE IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A MAJOR OVERBUDGET
SCENARIO IN THE DEPARTMENT. WE NEED TO RESTORE THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. BEYOND THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE TIGHTER MANAGEMENT AND CONTROLS OVER THIS DEPARTMENT. >> NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT PRESIDENT PAYNE JUST SAID, BUT I DIDN'T WHAT TO SPEAK TO THE PART B, WHICH WE'RE NOT VOTE ON THAT SEPARATELY.
>> UNLESS YOU ASK TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. >> AND THE CONTRACT WITH ZEN CITY DOES NOT FULFILL ANY PROVISION OF THE MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, BUT YET THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DOES REQUIRE THAT MINNEAPOLIS PROVE IT IS ADHERING TO THE TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS. THIS CONTRACT IS ABOUT MEASURING WHETHER THAT TRAING IS WORKING AND RESIDENTS SEE OR FEEL A DIFFERENCE. WHETHER THEY FEEL THEY'RE BEING TREATED FAIRLY. IT IS ABOUT SURVEYING, NOT SURVEILLANCE, WHICH A LOT OF
PEOPLE SEEM TO BE CONFLATTING HERE. THIS ISN'T ABOUT SIN CITY. THIS IS ABOUT THE NEED TO SURVEY OUR RESIDENTS, WHOEVER DOES IT. THIS IS ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS ABOUT REACHING COMMUNI
COMMUNITIES WHOFSH HISTORICALLY DISCMINATED AGAINST AND REFLECT THE VALUES AND NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES. AND WE KW TYPICAL ONLINE SURVEYS DON'T REACH COMMUNITIES IN THE PROPORTION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR, I THINK, COMMISSIONER PAR
NET ABOUT THIS. I THINK I'M CORRECT IN THOSE STATEMENTS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THIS WORK IF WE CUT THE FUNDING FOR SURVEYING SERVICES. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING
WE CAN DO IN HOUS IS IT? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THIS IS NO TO DO THIS INTERNALLY. THAT'S RIGHT. >> ARE THERE OTHER VENDOR WHO IS
CAN PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT? >> I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE ZEN CITY DOING THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER VENDORS DO THIS WORK.
SO IF WE NEED TO SURVEY TO PROVE COMPLIANCE, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT. AND WHAT WOULD THE LOSS OF THE SPECL CRIMES INVESTIGATIONS DEPARTMENT CONTRACTUAL FUNDS MEAN FOR THEM? THERE'S A LOT OF TEAMS WITH INVESTIGATIONS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THESE ARE. HOMICIDE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, PROPERTY CRIMES. >> IF THIS AMENDMENT PASS, I THINK YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET. WE'LL LOSE TWO EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKERS AND THREE OF THE
13 CHAPLAINS. AND WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT HAVING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE VICTIM SERVICES OR ADVOCATE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE. >> SOCIAL WORKERS SEEMS LIKE A BIG LOSS TO ME. CHAPLAINS FOR PEOPLE IN THEIR TIME OF NEED.
WHAT WAS THE THIRD THING YOU SAID? >> AND ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT REDUCING THE $79,000 IN SPECIAL CRIMES CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, THAT WILL RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF OUR VICTIM ADVOCACY FUNDING.
VICTIM ADVOCACY IS SOMETHING THAT MANY OF US HERE ON THIS DAIS HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO BOLSTER AND ADD FUNDING AND ATTENTION TO OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY, AND I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT CIVILIAN
INVESTIGATORS WILL SOMEHOW DECREASE THE NEED FOR THE OTHER SERVICES AS STATED IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR THIS AMENDMENT. AND THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE SUPPOSITION. I THINK THERE IS A POINT OF CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SURVEYING IS SOMEHOW THE SAME AS
SURVEILLANCE. ZEN CITY WAS HIRED TO RESEARCH DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHICS AND ASK IF THEY WOULD VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATE IN A SURVEY OF THEIR PERCEPTIONS OF MPD. DO THE AUTHORS OF THIS RESOLUTION THINK
WE CAN DO TARGETED OUTREACH FOR LESS MONEY AND GREATER SUCCESS? I DOUBT THAT WE CAN, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE AUTHORS TO TELL ME HOW THEY THINK WE SHOULD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE AUTHORS TO HELP EDUCATE ME AS TO HOW THEY MET WITH CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS HOW THE WORK WOULD BE RELEASED
BY DEFUNDING THIS CONTRACT. AND THIS WORK DOES NEED TO BE DONE TO THE CONTRARY TO THE BELIS OF THE AUTHORS. THIS CONTRACT IS UP AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, SO WHY NOT LET THE CONTRACT RUN OUT AND ALLOW AN RFP.
WE CAN'T JUST CUT THE SURVEYING FOREVER, FOR GOOD.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN? >> I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT IS OBVIOUS IF YOU DO RESEARCH, THESE ARE CYBER INTELLIGENCE FOLKS WE CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW WHY IN
THE BEGINNING WE CONTRACTED SUCH A HORRIBLE BUSINESS ORGANIZATION WHO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, SUEILLANCE AND DO HORRIBLE THINGS IN PALESTINE. GO CHECK
OUT TWITTER AND WHAT THE C.E.O. IS SAYING. SO PERSONALLY I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT SPECIFIC TO ZEN CITY AND WHY WE SHOULD CONTRACT
AND LISTEN TO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO VOICE THEIR CONCERN AS A CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CONTRACTING THIS TYPE OF SURVEILLANCE ORGANIZATION THAT CONTINUES TO VIOLATE HUMAN
RIGHTS AS WE SPEAK IN PALESTINE. SO THAT IS JUST A SIMPLE ANSWER. AND SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD. SHOULD NOT BE LINING UP. WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME VALUE AS THEM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE. I HAVE
SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHOR. THAT I'M HOPING COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY WILL ANSWER FOR ME. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, IN PUTTING TOGETHER THIS AMENDMENT, DID YOUR OFFICE MEET WITH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT? TO DISCUSS EIR BUDGET? >> YEAH, WE FOLLOWED UP ON THIS WITH ALL OF OURDEPARTMENTS. AND ACTUALLY, I HAD A PRESENTATION DONE ON THIS CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY, AND ADMINISTRATION OVERSIGHT WAY, LIKE A YEAR AGO, AHEAD OF THESE
DELIBERATIONS BECAUSE WE'VE LONG DISCUSSED AS A BODY WHAT PURPOSE DOES THIS ACTUALLY SERVE IN TERMS OF A SURVENG TOOL. AND OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE COULD PURSUE, WHICH AS SOMEONE WHO WAS HERE BEFORE YOU, COMMISSIONER
BARNETTE, I RECALL M.P.D. SAYING THEY COULD DO COMPETITIVE BIDS. WHATHE OUTSTANDING QUESTION IS, IS IF YOU ALL ACTUALLY DID A COMPETITIVE R.F.P. BID FOR THIS CONTRACT. YEAH, WE DID LOTS OF WORK ON THIS ONE. >> WONDERFUL. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. >> DON'T WORRY.
>> THE NEXT ONE, DID YOU MEET WITH THE PERSON WHO IS THE CLOSEST EXPERT TO THE FINANCES OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT? THEIR FINANCE DIRECTOR? >> OH YEAH, MISS VICKY. YES, WE DID. >> WONDERFUL. THAT IS EXCELLENT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE TWO PLACE WHERE IS THE DECREASES
ARE HAPPENING. OR THE REDUCTIONS ARE HAPPENING. TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO TELL ME, WHAT IT IS THAT DIRECTOR TOLD YOU WOULD IMPACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. JUST BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE
CONFUSION ABOUT CHAPLAINS AGAIN. AND ON THE FIRST ONE, THE $150,000 REDUCTION TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH BUREAU, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS. WHAT IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? YEAH, SO AS THE BUDGET
AMENDMENT NOTES, IT DOES COME FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH BUREAU. WITHIN THAT, SPIFICALLY THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL SERVICE WHERE IS ZEN CITY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CONTRACTS ARE HELD, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE MILLIONS. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE DIRECTOR TO LEARN THAT NOT ALL OF THE ZEN CITY MONEY HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED. AND ACTUALLY, THIS SHOULD NOT IMPACT CORE SERVICES BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY TERMS BAKED INTO THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS THE CITY COULD TERMINATE. WE COULD HAVE
TERMINATED, WHICH WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO DO NOW. AND THERE WILL BE SAVINGS. WE ARE PROPOSING USING THE SAVINGS OF THE $150,000 TO GO TOWARDS CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. AND THEN OF THE SEPARATE PIECE OF THIS T REMAINING 75, SORRY,
$79,852 COME FROM M.P.D.'S INVESTIGATIONS AND FORENSIC DIVISION CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. AND THAT BUDGET IS $5.4 MILLION. FOR 2026. >> AND YOU SPECIFICALLY, DID YOU SPECIFICALLY THINK ABOUT USING
THE FORENSICERVICES CONTRACTUAL SERVICES BUDGET BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING FOR CIVILIAN INVESTIGATIONS -- >> WE CONTRACT IT OUT. EXACTLY. SO BRING THE SERVICES IN HOUSE IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE MODEL
OF THIS. WHY NOT PRIORITIZE AS WE HAD TO DO A YEAR AGO TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT OF THIS IS LOW. AND SO WE ARE NOT CONSTANTLY OUTSOURCING MILLIONS IN
CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR INVESTIGATIVE NEEDS. >> LAST THING, I THINK, ARE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS ACTUALLY REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES OF AFCME? >> YES. YOU WANTED US TO USE
CONTRACTUAL SERVICES MONEY TO EXPAND LABOR REPRESENTED POSITIONS WITHIN OUR OWN DEPARTMENT IN HOUSE. >> CELLENT. AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, TOO, THIS WAS COMPLIMENTING THE ALMOST $20 MILLION INVESTMENT WE MADE IN THE POLICE CONTRACT THAT
ARTICULATED AND GOT A LETTER OF AGREEMENT FOR USO HIRE MORE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. THIS PAIRS WITH THE EARLY EXECUTION OF THE POLICE CONTRACT AS WELL.
>> AND THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING US IN THE BACKGROUND WHENOU PICKED THE SOURCES. NEXT WE MOVE TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE EARLIER, AND TOOK MYSELF OUT,
BUT I WANTED TO ADD MYSELF BACK IN. MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT PAT CERTAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE REQUIREMENTS. IT IS SO FUNDAMENTALLY THATTER THAT THE FLOOR T BARE MINIMUM TO DELIVER
THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE SHOULD BE STRIVING TO DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE BARE MINIMUM. THAT IS A PHILOSOPHICALHING AND ON THE MATTER OF ZEN CITY AS A SOURCE, ACTUALLY, I HAVE TWO THOUGH. AS A MATTER OF ZEN CITY AS A
SOURCE, I GOT A CHANCE TO SIT SOUN WITH COMMANDER MARTIN OVERSEEING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH BUREAU FOR THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING ZEN CITY. I GOT A CHANCE TO MEET WITH PMI
LEADERSHIP AND D.C.O. TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BODY'S WILL WAS WHEN IT CAME TO THE CONTRACT AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH IT. WE HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND THE INTERNAL CAPACITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. AND I OFFERED UP IN THAT MEETING TO SIT DOWN WITH
WHOMEVER WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH AND WHETHER THAT'S IN PMI OR IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH BUREAU. THE EXPERTISE IS IN HOUSE. AND I ACTUALLY DEVELOPED AND I WAS A CONTRACTOR ON PMI AND I WAS
CONTRACTED TO BE AN EXPERT AND DESIGN THINKING AND RESEARCH METHODS. WE DEVELOPED AN ENTIRE RESEARCH METHODOLOGY TO DO THE BEHAVIORAL CRISIS RESPONSE THAT HAD ROBUST SURVEYING. WE HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT SET OF REQUIREMENTS TO SURVEY FOR THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. IT IS MY BELIEF IF WE WORK TOGETHER AS AN INSTITUTION, WE CAN ACTUALLY ACHIEVE OUR GOALS. RIGHT? I'M OFFERING UP MY SERVICES TO HELP US GET THERE. ON THE SECOND
THING, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES. THESE CUTS, THESE DON'T TRANSLATE TO THE CUTS YOU ARE OUTLINING. WE DON'T GET TO DECIDE THOSE CUTS. YOU GET TO DECIDE THE CUTS. IF YOU A SAYING THE IMPACT WILL BE ON VICTIM SERVICES OR ON CHAPLAINS, THAT'S
A CHOICE WE DON'T GET TO MAKE. AND I HOPE M.P.D. WILL LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHERE THEY THINK THIS IMPACT WILL BE MINIMIZED. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN? >> I CHOSE TO CO-AUTHOR THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF THE LOW CLEARANCE RATES AND THE NEED FOR MORE INVESTIGATION CAPACITY. I KNOW THAT IT'S EASIER TO HIRE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS THAN IT IS SWORN INVESTIGATORS GIVEN STAFFING SHORTAGES AND IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AS WELL AS
ALL OF THE TRAINING AND ENVIRONMENTS THAT GO INTO BECOMING A SWORN OFFICER. SO I THINK THAT CIVILIANIZING THESE POSITIONS ARE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET OUR CAPACITY UP AND INVESTIGATIONS. WE ALSO FOUGHT HARD FOR THIS IN AND I
THINK WE DESERVE TO CARRY THIS OUT TO HAVE CIVILIA DO THE INVESTIGATIONS. WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO IMPROVE ACCOUNT WBLT THE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH STRONG AND SUCCESSFUL
INVESTIGATIONS AND THAT IS THE EXPERIENCE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WHEN YOU FILE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, DO FOLKS FOLLOW UP WITH YOU? DO TO CREATE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE
CRIME THAT TOOK PLACE. I KNOW IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT PROCESS TO COME TO CLOSURE ON A CRIME THAT SOONING PLACE, BUT
THE ONLY WAY IS BY CREATING AND SECONDLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOURCE, IT IS VERY RARE WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMING AND
ASKING F CUTS. THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY CUT THIS SERVICE. WE DON'T WANT THIS SERVICE. THA RARELY HAPPENS. THE RESENTS ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO BE SURVEYED BY ZEN CITY. WE ARE TIRED OF THE POP-UPS ON THE
SOCIAL MEDIA FEED AND WHEN THEY ARE SCRUBBING DATA FROM THE SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS. I THINK IT IS A GOOD SOURCE TO TAKE FROM THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR US TO STOP USING THAT SERVICE. THIS IS A PERFECT WAY TO GET MORE RESOURCES INTO THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS WE NEED.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO I WATCHED THAT PRESENTATN IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY ABOUT
THE GROUP ST. PAUL HAS PULLED TOGETHER AROUND CASE SOLVING AND
INVESTIGATIONS AND CIVILIANS NEED SWORN COPS TO CLEAR THE CASE. THEY CAN ONLY DO PARTS OF THE INVESTIGATION. AND THEN WE NEED SWORN OFFICERS TO TAKE EVERYTHING OFF THE FINISH LINE. SO OVER THE FINISH LINE. SO WHERE I KEEP GETTING CONFUSED
WITH ADDING MORE CIVILIANS IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SWORN OFFICERS TO HELP THE CIVILIANS. DO WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE CIVILIANS WORK ON THINGS? ED A WE'VE GOT A HUGE BACKLOG OF
CASES THEY HAVE INVESTIGATED? IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS HERE. AND RECRUITMENT IS WHAT I HEARD IN THAT PRESENTATION. THE GOAL SHOULD BE TRAINING UP OFFICERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW OFFICERS
COMING IN TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE GOING TO NEED YEAR OF TRAINING AND ON-THE-JOB WORK TO BE WITH INVESTIGATORS. IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW, ADDING MORE CIVILIANS IS NO THE DEPARTMENT, AND ONLY DO SO
MUCH WITHOUT A SWORN OFFICER. I DON'T KNOW IF HECK HELP THE CASE CLEARANCE WITH MORE POLICE OFFICERS. THIS IS THE
UNDERSTANDING OF THAT PRESENTATION. EVEN IF WE WERE TRAINING THE OFFICERS WHICH WE HAVE, THE RATE AT WHICH WE CAN DO THAT, IT IS NOT FAST ENOUGH TO GET IT THERE. AND TO BRING NOR EXPERIENCED OFFICERS INTO THE DERTMENT SO THEY CAN BE AT
THE INVESTIGATIVE LEVEL. I'M KIND OF RAMBLING ON, COMMISSIONER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT QUESTIONS IN THERE, BUT THAT WAS MY OBSERVATION OF THAT PRESENTATION. IT WASN'T JUST LIKE HIRE MORE CIVILIANS AND MORE CASES WILL BE SOLVED.
AND WHAT IS IMPRESSIVE IS HOW THEY WORKED WITH THE MORE SENIOR OFFICERS TO GET THOSE CASES OVER THE FINISH LINE. AND THE TRAINING AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY. ALL THESE THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THE
DEPARTMENT IS THE CORE OF HOW TO BUILD THE DEPARTMENT UP TO COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION. AND THAT IS ONE THING. THE SECOND THING IS THE ZEN CITY CONTRACT. AND I HAVE WORKED FOR RESIDENT WHO IS REACHED TO ME AND SAID, CUT THE ZEN CITY CONTRACT AND
THEY NAMED WHATEVER AMOUNT, THE HANDFUL OF RESIDENT WHO IS CAME HERE ARE THE SAME ONES WHO REACHED OUT TO ME IN COMMUNITY AND SAID CUT THE CONTRACT. AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WAS UP TO ME TO SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CONTRACT IS THAT YOU'RE NOT
BEING SURVEYED. IT IS A SURVEY ON THE INTERNET IF YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN IT OR YOU CAN'T. WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THEM ABOUT THEIR AFFILIATIONS HERE IN PUBLIC. THEY ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. AND THIS
COUNCIL VOTED FOR THAT CONTRACT. OKAY. NOT THE ONE YOU WANTED BUT A CITY COUNCIL VOTED NOR CONTRACT. SO THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH COUNCIL AND DIDN'T
PASS. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE ZEN CITY CONTRACT BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT, IF THIS IS CUT, DO WE OWE THEM MONEY? ARE THE CITY MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS STILL GOING TO PAY EVEN IF WE CUT IN IT THIS WAY? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHO
THINGS. ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, I DO LIKE MANY OFOU FIND THAT THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT WE DO. AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT IMPRSION THEY ARE NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL. THEY PROVIDE
A LOT OF VALUE. BUT THEY SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS. THEY ARE NOT THE LEAD INVESTIGATORS. IT IS THE SUPPORT FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE WORK THEY DO. AND THEY DO PROVIDE VALUE.
AND AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION IS IF WE OWE THEM MONEY OR NOT. >> AND I ND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CONTRACT IS CUT
AT THIS POINT. I THOUGHT WE HAD A MULTIYEAR CONTRACT WITH ZEN CITY FOR A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE WHERE ARE WE IN THE CONTRACT WITH ZEN CITY AND WHAT'S LEFT. WHAT'S LEFT?
>> THAT'S TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, MADAM CHAIR. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO I JUST GOT SENT THE CONTRACT RIGHT NOW. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR INTO IT WE ARE AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE
OWE THEM TO PAY THEM FOR SERVICES ALREADY RENDERED. THE TERMINATION CLAUSE ALLOWED FOR TERMINATION WITHOUT CAUSE FOR WITH 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE.
>> OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A STAFF MEMO. BUT I LIKE T ON THIS CONTRACT ALREADY. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET FOR AT WE'VE PAID FOR SO FAR? >> AND WE HAVE NOTED THAT AS A
STAFF, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FOLLOW-UP. >> U AN IT COULD BE PAID OUT, RIGHT? >> DID YOU GIVE US AN END AT A TIME TO THIS CONTRACT? >> NOVEMBER 26, I BELIEVE. >> OF THIS YEAR? >> OF -- 2026. OKAY. SO IT'S UP IN
OCTOBER. >> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, YOUR TIME IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE. >> OH, I'M GOOD. >> WONDERFUL. SOUNDS GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I REMEMBER, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT WE HAD WHERE FOLKS CAME AND WE ASKED QUESTIONS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID SAY T TWO CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS WOULD BE HELPFUL AND NEEDED TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. AND THEY WOULD BE HAPPY IF THEY HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ASSISTING THEM IN THESE INVESTIGATIONS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON WHAT A CIVILIAN INVESTIGATOR CAN DO, BUT I DID WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC TO THE PUBLIC AND FOLKS ON THE DAIS AND THE STAFF,
THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENTID SAY THAT THEY WOULD FIND IT HELPFUL. AND OBVIOUSLY WON'T ADDRESS EVERYTHING IN THECOMMUNITY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED AND IS VERIFIED IF WE WATCH THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE MEING. I WANTED TO START WITH THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AUTHORS TO BE INCLUDED NOT ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT BUT ON THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. THE RESOLUTION URGING THE TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT. >> CLERKS HAVE NOTED THAT, WONDERFUL.
ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR -- OKAY. PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE. SO I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE --
I'M SORRY. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER RIGHT NOW ON WHEN THIS CONTRACT IS SET TO EXPIRE. BUT NOT CONFIRMED. GO AHEAD, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE
CONTRACT AS YOU WERE TALKING. ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT, IT GOES FROM NOVEMBER 9, 2023 THROUGH NOVEMBER 8, 2026. >> NOVEMBER 2026. >> AND PERFECT. THANK YOU.
I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SOME -- I AM TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS DISCUSSION OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS HAVE AND THE BENEFIT THAT THEY ADD TO SUPPLEMENT THE WORK OF SWORN OFFICERS. I THINK IT WOULD JUST
BE HELP TO FEEL KNOW, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU CAN TELL ME OR HOW MANY CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS ARE A PART OF TH DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW. I CAN'T RECALL THE NUMBER MYSELF. >> LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THAT FOR
YOU. I DO NOT HAVE THAT IN MY NOTES, BUT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONEHAT -- >> YES. >> IS AVAILABLE ON HAND RIGHT NOW. >> YES, YES.
>> SO I WANT TWO NUMBERS. I WANT TO KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS IN THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW. AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SWORN OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY THING I WANTED, SO I HAVE THREE MINUTES OF TIME ON THE CLOCK. I CAN JUST WAIT. >> THAT'S FINE. >> IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER QUICKLY.
ACTUALLY, SS WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS IN QUEUE, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THEM SO THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY NEED TO. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> A THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. IN REGARDS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY NOTING THE CONTRACT TERMS IN
TERMS OF DEADLINES, IF THERE IS A DISCREPANCY BECAUSE THE RCA IN LIMS FILE SAYS THAT THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVEIN 2023 SAYS THAT IT ACTUALLY EXPIRES AND
STARTED OCTOBER 7, 2023 AND GOES THROUGH OCTOBER 6, 2026. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. I A LOOKING AT
THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT TO ME WHICH WAS THE EXECUTED CONTRACT THAT HAS IT GOING THROUGH
NOVEMBER 8, 2026.
>> IN THE LIMS FILE WAS THE TERMINATION CLAUSE WITH THE DAY NOTICE AND THAT ASSUMES THAT ALL BALANCES DUE WILL BE PD. THERE IS NO FINANCIAL LINGERING
ON THAT END WHICH WE NEE TO COVER WHICH IS WHY WE WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT TAKING FROM THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICE BUDGET. THERE WOULD BE VACANCY ON THE VACANCIES SHOULD THE CONTRACT BE TERMINATED. THAT IS NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, THOUGH, CITY ATTORNEY. I WANTED TO NOTE THE CHANGES
THERE. >> DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS FOR ME? >> I DO HAVE INFORMATION. IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE 29 CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. IT APPEARS THAT 28 OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT REMAINING ON THE CONTRACT, IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS ABOUT $112,500 REMAINING ON THE CONTRACT. >> WONDERFUL. AND DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR ME ON THE TOTAL
SWORN? >> I AM TRYING TO GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF TOTAL SWORN. >> EXCELLENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.
>> AND I HAD A QUESTION SIMILAR TO YOURS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE PRESENTATION IS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO OFFICERS. AND SO I WAS -- I CAN'T REMEMBER. I DO REMEMBER WHEN I SAW THE PRESENTATION, I THOUGHT, WOW, THAT IS A REALLY LOW NUMBER
OF -- LOWER THAN WHAT I THOUGHT THE NUMBER OF CASES SHOULD BE FOR OFFICES. AND WONDERING IF ANYBODY ON THAT COMMITTEE REMEMBERS AND IF THEY CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. IT WAS A LOW NUMBER OF CASES -- I SHOULDN'T SAY LOW. IT WAS A
NUMBER OF CASES THAT SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO AN OFFICER. AND IT WAS BASED ON WHAT KIND OF CRIMES THEY WERE. SO JUST WONDERING, LIKE, DO WE DO THE SAME THING WITH CIVILIANS? DO WE ASSIGN NUMBERS OF CASES? DO THEY GO -- ARE THESE CIVILIANS
GOING TO GET ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC OFFICERS? OR SPECIFIC CRIMES? AND HOW ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO WORK OUT ALSO.
>> AN I'M JUST LOOKING TO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE -- COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, DO YOU HAVE THE ANSWER? >> JUST CLARIFICATION. THE PRESENTATION AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IS RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING BUDGET AMENDMENT OF 17T NONFATAL
SHOOTING TASK FORCE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW CONCERNS AROUND US MAKING AN APPROPRIATIONS FOR SWORN STAFF TO DO INVESTIGATIVE WORK. AND ERE WAS NOT MUCH CONVERSATION AROUND CIVILIAN. AND IN TERMS OF THEM PROVIDING SUPPLEMENTAL
SUPPORT AND EVERYONE AGREES, THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE SWORN STAFFING SUPPORT, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE ALSO HAVING THE GAP. THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATOR PIECE DIDN'T GET DISCUSSED IN THAT NONFATAL SHOOTING PRESENTATION.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. BUT THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WAS THAT THE CIVILIAN STAFF
ONLY CAN GO SO FAR AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SWORN STAFF TO SUPPORT THAT, WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF CASES PILED UP THAT NEED SWORN OFFICERS. IT IS NOT THAT CIVILIANS DON'T HELP. THEY
DO A GREAT JOB. WHER THINGS CAN GET BEHIND IS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SWORN STAFF AND WE HAVE TO BUILD UP THE NUMBER OF SWORN OFFICERS IF
WE WANT TO GET TO THE ROOT OF CLEARING UP THE CASES AND SOLVING THE CRIMES FOR FAMIES. WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THAT PRESENTION, I MEAN, YEAH, AND THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE
ASSIGNED TO OFFICERS ALSO FOR ME IS, LIKE, IT DIDN'T MATCH UP. ST. PAUL HAD FEWER CASES THAN WE DID. AND WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY OFFICERS ASSIGNED AS WE HAD SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO. AND WE'RE ADDING CIVILIANS TO
THAT WHO CAN ONLY GO SO FAR IS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. IT WASN'T THAT CIVILIANS DON'T DO A GREAT JOB. IT IS REALLY ABOUT ARE WE BEING PRODUCTIVE OR ARE WE BEING COUNTERPRODUCTIVE BY ADDING THESE POSITIONS, AND
THERE'S, LIKE, NO FUTURE IN RESOLVING THINGS. >> WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A NUMBER? >> 540 ACTIVE SWORN OFFICERS, AND CHAIR, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS 74
SWORN INVESTIGATORS. >> OH, 74 SWORN INVESTIGATORS. >> YEF YES. >> 540 ACTIVE SWORN OFFICERS. >> ACTIVE SWORN. >> AND YOU KNOW THAT -- THE REASON I SPECIFICAY ASKED
THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE THE WAY THE STATE DEFINES SWORN OFFICERSER, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THOSE IN THE ACADEMY, SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHICH ONES ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVE ON THE STREET F THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> YEAH, YEP, THAT MAK SENSE. THANK YOU FOR DOING THE DISTINCTION THERE. FOR EVERY CIVILIAN INVEIGATOR, THERE ARE 19 SWORN OFFICERS TOTAL ON THE RCE. NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I AM TELLING YOU
FOR AN OBJECTIVE FACT FROM A CALCULATOR. OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING FURTHER DISCUSSION. CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. >> WONSLEY, AYE. >> RAINVILLE, NO.
>> VETAW, NO. >> OSMAN, AYE. >> CASHMAN, AYE. >> JENKINS, AYE. >> CHAVEZ, AYE. >> CIAO CHOWDHURY, AYE. >> PALMISANO, NO.
>> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS NINE AYES AND THREE NAYS. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP
IS AMENDMENT NUMBER 16, WHICH IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WONSLEY AND -- COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND PRESIDENT PAYNE RELATED TO OFF-DUTY PAYMENT FEES. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY,
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESENT YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. THIS IS ONE BEFORE I DO THE INTRODUCTION, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE WHERE OUR C.O.O. IS
I KNOW THIS IS DEFINITELY OR TYPICALLY SHOULD BE A MATTER HANDLED BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. FOR UNKNOWN REASONS WE HAVE BEEN PRIMARILY BEEN CONNECTING WITH MARGARET ANDERSON KLIHER AROUND A POTENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROPOSAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
SEE. BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS AND POTENTIALLY TABLE THIS UNTIL THEY GET US THE PROPOSALS. >> AM I CAPTURING THAT
CORRECTLY, YOU WANT US TO RETURN BACK TO THIS ITEM BECAUSE THERE IS OUTSTANDING INFORMATION? >> YES, BUT I WANT TO, AT LEAST, I KNOW -- NO SHADE TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BARNETTE, I HAVE NOT BEEN CONNECTED WITH YOU ABOUT THIS MATTER. C.O.O.
MARGARET ANDERSON CAN GIVE MORE CONTEXT ON WHAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. >> WE'LL WELCOME THE C.O.O. NOW >> WELCOME BACK. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> I DON'T THINK I IDENTIFIED MYSELF THE FIRST TIME. MARGARET
ANDERSON KELLIHER, C.O.O. FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, YOU ARE ALSO ON THE AMENDMENT IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL PRODUCE RL
PROGRESS ON OFF-DUTY IN 2026. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS TO DO SOME FUNDING FROM THE I.T. DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE AMOUNT OF $200,000 TO WORK ON THE CHANGE MANAGEMENT PART OF THE OFF-DUTY
PROGRAM. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. WE HAVE PROVIDED A WRIEN AMENDMENT TO STAFF TO GO THROUGH. I ALSO DO HAVE OTH FOLKS HERE
WHO COULD SPEAK TO THIS. THE DIFFERENCE IS THERE COULD BE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE A NEED FOR AN APP THAT WOULD COLLECT DATA, HELP COLLECT THE FEES, BUT THAT IS FARAHEAD OF THE HORSE RIGHT NOW.
AND THE REASON I'MPEAKING TO THIS IS THIS IS A CROSS COLLABORATION BETWEEN I.T. AND M.P.D. AND SO THE -- WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE ARE IN PROCESS IN BUILDING THE NEW TIME
KEEPING SYSTEM FOR M.P.D., WHICH IS A FOUNDATIONAL PRODUCT OR BASED ON A FOUNDATIONAL PRODUCT OF U.K.G. FOR TIME KEEPING. THEN ON TOP OF THAT PRODUCT NEEDS TO BE BUILT AN INTEGRATION TO COLLECT AND TRACK OFF-DUTY
TIME. AND ON TOP OF THAT WILL NEED TO LIKELY BE SOMETHING TO HELP US EASILY COLLECT THE FEES. THE U.K.G. PROJECT, WHICH IS THE BASE FOR ALL OF THIS, IS TO BE
DONE AT THE END OF 2026. IT IS BOTH TIME KEEPING AND SUPERVISORY RELATED. IT UPDATES OUR SYSTEM FROM THE OLD WORKFORCE DIRECTOR THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING. WE WILL DE-ACTIVATE WORKFORCE DIRECTOR. GO TO U.K.G.
THEN BE ABLE TO BUILD ON TOP OF THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH FURTHER EXPENSE, LIKE DOUBLE SPENDING BECAUSE WE WILL JUST MOVE TO BUILDING THE INTEGRATION FOR THE OFF-DUTY TIME KEEPING ON TOP OF THAT.
THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, AND EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE. SO THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING, AND THE PROPOSAL BACK IS TO REALLY WORK ON THAT CHANGE MANAGEMENTIECE OF IT THAT HAS
TO HAPPEN. >> WITH THE TWO MINUTES THAT I HAVE LEFT, THIS IS GETTING
CLARITY BECAUSE THEY NEVER MENTIONED I.T. WORKING ON SOMETHING AND MENTION A NEED FOR A THIRD PARTY VDOR AND I SHARED THIS WITH YOU, C.O., THAT THIS WAS INFORMATION THAT I
HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2022, BUT THE FEE PCE WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS AROUND THIS, NEVER HEARD THIS UNTIL YOU PULLED ME TO THE SIDE AND SHARED THAT ABOUT AN HOUR AGO. I THINK IT'S GETTING CLARITY ON, THEN, WHY WAS THIS NOT ARTICULATED IN THE PRESENTATION
OR REPORT BY O.C.S. AND M.P.D. BACK IN MAY OR JUNE WHEN YOU GAVE THAT PRESENTATION? WHAT HAPPENED THERE? >> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, I THINK BETWEEN MAY OR JUNE, WHENEVER W
GAVE THE PRESENTATION AND NOW AND EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN WE SUBMITTED THAT MEMO AS WELL, THINGS CHANGED AS FAR AS THE PROGRESS ON THE U.K.G. PROJECT ITSELF AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE TWO NEEDED TO INTERPLAY. I THINK THE C.O.O. SAID IT WELL
IF WE DO AN APPLICATION OR SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE MANAGING OFF-DUTY OR COORDINATING OFF DUTY THROUGH THAT NEXT YEAR, WE'LL HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY DUPLICATE THE WORK WHEN U.K.G. COMES IN AND WE'RE ABLE TO FINISH OUT THAT PROJECT. SO I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE AND
ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> SOMEWHAT. WE'LL CONNECT DURING RECESS, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, IILL MOTION US TO TABLE THIS TO ALLOW US THE NEXT COUPLE OF RECESSES TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION AND GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROPOSALS. >> YEP. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, I AM GOING TO SUGGEST WE DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THIS ONE.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, CAN WE TABLE AND COME BACK TO THIS? C.O.O., JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR YOU. OR JUST EARLIER YOU MENTION THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT DRAFT CIRCULATED AMONG STAFF. WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT FINANCE STAFF OR TALKING ABOUT THE CHAIR AND
AUTHOR STAFF? >> CHAIR, WE SHARED IT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND HER STAFF FOR A REVIEW OF IT FIRST. >> PERFECT. THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. WITH, THAT WE ARE TABLING NUMBER 17,
OR NUMBER 16. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW WE ARE READY FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 17. WHICH IS RELATED TO NONFATAL
TASK FORCE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. PLEASE INTRODOUSE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. THIS CORRELATES WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD JUST RELATED TO THE CIVILIAN SWORN -- SORRY, CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS IN TERMS
OF US BEEFING UP SUPPORT ON THE SWORN SIDE OF THINGS. BUT THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A $1.7 MILLION EARMARK WITHIN M.P.D. PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES BUDGET. THE INTENTION OF THIS MONEY IS TO FUND BETWEEN 7-9 INVESTIGATORS WHO IMPLEMENT A
NONFATAL TASK FORCE SHOOTING OR NONFATAL SHOOTING TASK FORCE, SORRY ABOUT THAT. EWITH TALKED AN ABOUT THIS ALREADY, BUT THE CLEARANCE RATE FOR NONFATAL SHOOTINGS BASED OFF 2024 DATA WAS 26%. AND THESE NUMBERS ARE
NOT UNIQUE. M.P.D. CLEARANCE NUMBERS IN GENERAL OUTSIDE OF HOMICIDES HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE WORST IN THE NATION, AND THIS WAS EVEN THE CASE IN 2019 AND WHEN M.P.D. HAD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF INVESTIGATORS THAT THEY DO NOW. FOR THE PAST YEAR, MY OFFICE HAS
EXPLORED HOW OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE AND COUNTRY HAVE INCREASED THEIR EFFECTIVENESS AT SOLVING CASES, AND FORTUNATELY, MY OFFICE DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK TOO FAR AS THERE IS A NATION LEADING EXAMPLE ACROSS THE RIVER IN ST. PAUL THAT SAID I'VE SPENT THIS
YEAR ENGAGING WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS AND EXPERTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ST. PAUL'S MASSIVE SUCCESS ANDERSON
KELLIHER ST. PAUL CLEARANCE RATES AND ROSE TO 74%. AND IN ADDITION TO THE MASSIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CLEARANCE RATES, THE TASK FORCE SHARED A
30% REDUCTION IN SHOTS FIRED AND THEIR IS BEING APPLAUDED AND NATIONWIDE AND SHOW CASING THE WORK TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND WE'RE GLAD THEY WERE ABLE TO COME TO OUR OWN PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEEO SHARE THAT WORK WITH US. WE, TOO, CAN LEARN HOW TO SOLVE
AND PROVE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES LIKE THE BACKLOG WE ARE EXPERIENCING AROUND INVESTIGATIVE CASES. THERE DOES SEEM TO BE JUST NO PROPOSALS THAT -- AND IN MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION WE ALL AGREED
CLEARANCE RATES ARE BAD. WE NEED TO BE DOING SOMETHING AROUND REDUCING OUR BACKLOG OF CASES. WE CAN'T CONTINUE ON WITH THE STATUS QUO. THAT IS CLEARLY NOT
WORKING. WHILE COUNCIL CAN'T DIRECT OPERATIONS, WE CA FUND PROGRAMS THAT DO WORK AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES THAT AND ATTEMPTS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT M.P.D. AND CITY LEADERS ARE ESSENTIALLY IGNORING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THE PREPARATIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW. I ENCOURAGE
COLLEAGUES TO CHECK OUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE WHERE WE HAD THE EXPERTS COME AND DISCUSS MORE ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THIS MODEL, HOW IT CAN BE TRANSLATED OVER, BUT THIS IS GIVING M.P.D. ADDITIONAL IN-HOUSE SWORN RESOURCES THAT'S EVEN
COMPLIMENTING THE WORK WE ARE TRYING TO DO AROUND THE POLICE CONTRACTEGOTIATIONS TO BEEF UP OUR RESOURCES NEEDED FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND REDUCING THE EXHAUSTIVE AND EXTENSIVE BACKLOG. SO WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE THIS
AMENDMENT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSI? COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
THINK IT'S GREAT THAT ST. PAUL HAS BEEN ABLE TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THEIR CLEARANCE RATES FOR NONFATAL SHOOTINGS. AND I HOPE THE SAME FOR US SOME DAY. WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION AT PUBLIC SAFETY AS TO SOME OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES AS TO WHY AND HOW ALL OF THAT WORKS.
ONE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE FOR A BUDGET DEBATE IS THAT THEY FUNDED THE PROGRAM WITH STATE AID. NOT APPROPRIATING IT WITHIN THEIR EXISTING POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. I'VE LOST TRACK HONESTLY HOFF HOW MUCH PUBLIC SAFETY AID MON
WE MIGHT HAVE LEFT, BUT THERE IS SOME IN COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER PILOTS. MBE PUBLIC SAFETY AID MONEY WOULD BE A BETTER SOURCE FOR TRYING OUT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. IF WE HAD THE STAFFING NUMBERS TO SUPPORT THIS, I WOULD BE ALL FOR IT. THIS AMENDMENT, ALONG
WITH NUMBER -- WELL T ONE WE JUST TABLED. 16 AND THEN 22, TOTAL OVER $3 MILLION IN EARMARKS WITHIN M.P.D. PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. BUT I THINK THAT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS EARMARK AND WE KNOW AN EARMARK IS A CUT
TO OTHER SERVICES, THAT IT WOULD MEAN CUTTING SWORN CONTROL POSITIONS. THAT'S A NONSTARTER IF WE WANT TO WORK OUR WAY BACK UP TO THE CHARTER MINIMUM AND TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD STAFF A TASK FORCE LIKE THIS, WE CAN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE ENTRY-LEVEL
JOBS THAT WILL FILL OUT OUR RANKS AS WE HEARD IN THAT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING. THAT'S NOT -- THIS IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION. IT TAKES -- I FORGET WHAT RANK. SERGEANT RANK TO BE ABLE TO PART OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS. THE SAVINGS THAT WE INCUR WITH
THE OPENINGS NOT ONLY HELP US COVEROVERTIME BUT ARE ALSO FUNDING THE C.S. OTOs AND OTHERS IN TRAINING IN THE PIPELINE. THEY MAY NOT BE READY YET, BUT THEY WILL BE SOME DAY. WE CANNOT MORTGAGE OUR FUTURE STAFFING NEEDS TO THIS TASK
FORCE. SORRY, COMMISSIONER BARNETTE, BUT I NEED TO ASK YOU UP HERE BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU WERE CONSULTED ABOUT THIS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE TO PRECINCT OPERATIONS AND STAFFING. HOW
WOULD THIS IMPACT OFFICERS IN THEIR EXISTING WORK IN ORDER TO STAND UP A TEAM LIKE THIS? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, I'LL START BY JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY TO TRY TO
FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO IT? EARLY ON WHEN GOT IN THIS POSITION, TWO OF THE FOLKS THAT PRESENTED IN FRONT OF COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND HER COMMITTEE
WILL COOLEY AND DAVID ZIMMER IN BOTH APPROACHED ME ABOUT THE NONFATAL SHOOTING. WHAT THEY WERE DOING AT THE LEGISLATURE. ALSO TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED WITH ST. PAUL.
WE WERE HOPEFUL THROUGH SOME LEGISLATION WITH REPRESENTATIVE FRAZIER WHO WAS ALS PRESENT FOR THAT PRESENTATION THAT THAT LEGISLATION WOULD PASS. IT DID >> I DON'T THINK IT EVEN GOT A HEARING, COMMISSIONER. >> THAT IS TRUE. SO WHY AM I SAYING THAT? BECAUSE THEN WE
WENT BACK TO TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN. IT BOILS DOWN TO HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THIS WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE? AND IN
ORDER TO DO THIS, IS THERE CERTN ORDER TO DO THIS, SO BY NO MEANS IS IT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD. BUT THE STAFFING RIGHT NOW IS NOT AT
A LEVEL IN WHICH WE THINK WE COULD DO IT WITHOUT OTHER AREAS BEING AFFECTED IN OUR INVESTIGATIONS IN PATROL. I THINK IF YOU TALK TO DEPUTY
CHIEF OLSON, SHE WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING. IT IS PULLING THE FOLKS FROM THE WORK THEY ARE DOING AND ABLE TO D THIS AND SO I THINK IT WILL EFFECT OTHER AREAS IF THIS AMENDMENT IS PASSED. >> THANK YOU. AND MY
UNDERSTANDING IS CURRENTLY NONFATAL SHOOTINGS ARE ASSIGNED TO THE HOMICIDE UNIT. THEY ARE JUST NOT AS TOP PRIORITY AS THE ACTUAL HOMICIDES IN THE HOMICIDE UNIT. WE USED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF A TEAM BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE HAVE THE STAFFING TO CONTINUE IT
FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS AT LEAST. IS THAT ALSO YOUR UNDERSTANDI? >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, IT IS TRUE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ATTENTION TO GIVE TO THE NONFATAL
SHOOTINGS THAT WE WANT TO. I ALSO BELIEVE THERE ARE -- I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I THINK THEY ARE ASSIGNED IN THE HOMICIDE DIVISION. >> BACK IN OCTOBER WHEN WE HAD THIS THOROUG REPORT AND CONVERSATION IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE DEPUTY
CHIEF CURRENTLY HAD 14 SWORN AND TWO CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS. THE CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS DOING MORE OF THE BACKGROUND WORK. IT'S REALLY HARD TO COMPARE MINNEAPOLIS TO ST. PAUL.
THERE WERE 378 NONFATAL SHOOTINGS IN MINNEAPOLIS LAST YEAR. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT ST. PAUL'S WAS, BUT SO FAR AS OF THAT OCTOBER PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING, THERE WERE 50 HOMICIDES IN MINNEAPOLIS, BUT SON-IN-LAW 10 IN ST. PAUL. AND IT'S REAY IMPORTANT FOR US
TO KNOW THAT VICTIM COUNT DOES NOT EQUAL CASE COUNT. ONE MASS SHOOTING, WHICH WE HAD, A VERY COMPLICATED MASS SHOOTINGS IN AUGUST IS ONE AS FAR AS A NONFATAL SHOOTING CASE. NOT 21,
WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN SHOT IN THAT ONE CASE. M.P.D. IS WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERSHIP ON THIS. THEY HAVE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS AND ARE DOING SIMILAR KIND OF WORK TO WHAT ST. PAUL DOES, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST
NOT AS SIMPLE AS ADDING MORE STAFF. I SHOULD PROBABLY STOP THERE FOR TIME PURPOSES. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> IF THE SHARED GOAL IS TO GET SEASONED OFFICERS TO COME IN TO ADDRESS THIS BACKLOG, NO ONE IS MAKING UP NEW NUMBERS. THIS IS BASED OFF M.P.D.'S OWN BACKLOG OF CASES ARTICULATED ON THE PUBLIC DASHBOARD, THAT YOU HAVE
TO HIRE SEASONED INVESTIGATORS. RIGHT NOW THE WAY IN WHICH THE ADMINISTRATION HAS STRUCTURED THE BUDGET DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW US TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE PUT EVERY POSITION AT AN ENTRY LEVEL, SO LET'S SAY THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING
TO CREATE LEADERSHIP TO ALLOW US TO BUILD MORE SEASONED INVESTIGATORS, YOU HAVE TO DO A JOB CLASSIFICATION BASED OFF THE CURRENT POSITIONS RIGHT NOW AND SWORN OFFICERS. IN ORDER TO PAY THE SEASONED OFFICERS WHAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY COMPLEMENTING THAT
PROCESS. WE ARE SAYG EARMARKING BETWEEN SEVEN TO NINE POSITIONS AND THE ADMINISTRATION GETS TO DECIDE TO GIVE US AT LEAST AN INITIAL START TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. AND YOU WILL HAVE TO REDO THE CLASSIFICATIONS IF WE WERE SERIOUS ABOUT WEEF
BEEFING UP SWORN PERSONNEL TO ACTUALLY BOOST UP OUR INVESTIGATIVE DIVISIONS. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT IS ON THE BLE IS DON'T DO ANYTHING. I AM NOT SAYING YOU -- ACTUALLY, THADMINISTRATION, IS SAYING
THINGS ARE WORKING. WE ARE STILL AT WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WAS THAT 28% CLEARANCE RATE. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER INNOVATIVE MODELS AND MODELS THAT OUR OWN COUNTY SUPPORTS. WHAT WAS GREAT ABOUT ST. PAUL'S
EXAMPLE IS RAMSEY COULD BE WAS AT THE TABLE. AND THAT INVOLVED OTHER PARTNERS. HENNEPIN COUNTY ALSO WANTS TO BE AT THE TABLE AND ARE EXCITED TO BRING RESOURCES. THIS IS THE INITIAL UP FRONT INVESTMENT TO TALK ABOUT DOING IN MANY OTHER WAYS TO RECOGNIZE
THERE ARE SOLVING RATE OR CLEARANCE RATES ARE LOW AND THAT MEANS WE ARE NOT SOLVING CASES. THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE ANSWER ON THE CASES OR JUSTICE IS NOT DELIVERED THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL MEANS. THIS IS THE BASELINE OF IT. IT IS AN INITIAL INVESTMENT. AND
WITH THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AND CALL THEUESTION. >> COUNC MEMBER WONSLEY HAS CALLED THE QUESTION. OH YES. THAT IS NOT A DEBATABLE QUESTION. PROPER MOTION.
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, AYE. >> WONSLEY, AYE. >> RAINVILLE, NO. >> VETAW, NO. >> OSMAN, AYE. >> CASHMAN, AYE. >> JENKINS, AYE.
>> CHAVEZ, AYE. >> CHOWDHURY, AYE. >> PALMISANO, NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. AND CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS NINEYES AND THREE
NAYS. >> TO MOTION CARRIES. NOW LET'S TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING
QUESTION. THANK YOU. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. >> PAYNE, AYE. . RAINVILLE, NO. >> VETAW, NO. >> OSMAN, AYE. >> CASHMAN, AYE. >> JENKINS, NO. >> CHADZ CHAVEZ, AYE.
>> CHOWDHURY, AYE. >> PALMISANO, NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS EIGHT AYES AND FOUR NAYS.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. THE -- I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH -- THE NEX THREE AMENDMENTS ARE THE LAST OF THE SAFETY RELATED AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO GET THROUGH
ONE OF THEM. OR IF THERE IS LOT OF LOT OF DISCUSSION, WE WILL DO THE SECOND RECESS. CAN I JUST SEE FROM A VIBE CHECK HERE. DO WE NEED A RECESS RIGHT NOW? >> NO, OKAY. WE CAN GET THROUGH THE SAFETY ONES. AND THEN MAYBE
WE CANAKE A RECESS? EXCELLENT. OKAY. HERE WE GO. NUMBER -- OUR NEXT AMENDMENT IS NUMBER 17 OFFERED BY -- >> WE JUST DID THAT. >> SORRY. OUR NEXT AMENDMENT IS
AMENDMENT NUMBER 18. OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN RELATED TO STEPHENS SQUARE SAFETY INITIATIVE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU HEARD ME MANY TIMES TALK ABOUT THE HOT
SPOTS IN OUR CITY. YOU HAVE HEARD ME TAL ABOUT 18 AND NICOLLET, WHICH ARE REALLY STRUGGLING AREA. AND THIS WILL ALLOW NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAFETY DEPARTMENTS TO DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT SAFETY FOCUSED
STRATEGIES TAILORED TO NEED OF STEPHENS SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS PARTICULARLY EMPHASIZING HIGHLY IMPACTED CORRIDOR AT THIS AREA. THIS WILL INCLUDE SAFETY MEASURES AND
SAFETY PRESENTS IN CERTAIN AREAS, CONFLICT PREVENTION ACTIVITIES, PUBLIC SPACE ACTIVITIES, YOUTH ENGAGEMENT, IMPROVED CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE CITY AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS. SOME OF THE AREA AS COUNCIL
MEMBER CASHMAN AND I TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES THE NEED OF SERVICES AND HELP FOR THE AREA IS REALLY IMPACTED HEAVILY. I AM HOPING THIS WILL BRING RELIEF
NEXT YEAR. HOPE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT. THANKS A LOT. >> AND WILL YO-- >> SECOND. >> OKAY. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DIRECTOR AMANDA HARRINGTON DID SEND US AN UPDATE RECENTLY THEY ARE WORKING ON ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR THE STEPHENS SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND IT IS MORE THAN NEEDED BECAUSE THE LAST ONE IMPLEMENTED WAS FOR
THREE NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE SAME TIME. THAT ISN'T BEING SEEN IN STEPHENSQUARE AS MUCH AS MAYBE WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ALONG 19th AND NICOLLET. THEY'RE BEING SENT TO CARAMEL MALL AND OTHER AREAS AS WELL. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WAS ONE
OF THE AREAS THAT THE ANALYSIS DONE BY OUR TECHNICAL EXPERTS ON WHERE THE MOST AMOUNT WAS IDENTIFIED BUT TOOK THE LONGEST OF ANY AREA TO FIND A VENDOR TO
FULFILL. IT HAS REALLY BEEN A GAP. I THINK IT IS WISE FOR US TO KEEP PUING ON MAKING SURE THIS INCREDIBLY DENSE, INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, LARGELY LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING THE
SERVICES THEY NEED. >> THANK YOU. I AM NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 18, STEPHENS SQUARE, SAFETY NICHE TIFR. >> PAYNE, AYE. >> WONSLEY, IS ABSENT.
>> INVILLE, AYE. >> VETAW, AYE. >> OSMAN, AYE. >> CASHMAN, AYE. >> JENKINS, AYE. >> CHAVEZ, AYE. >> CHOWDHURY, AYE. >> PALMISANO, AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE.
>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS 11 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS AMENDME NUMBER 19. WILL YOU TAKE THIS ONE? OKAY,
PERFECT. THIS IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND OSMAN RELATED TO PUBLIC HOUSING TENANT ORGANIZING, AMENDMENT NUMBER 19. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT THIS? >> YEAH, SORRY. YES. >> OKAY. >> LET ME FIND IT.
>> AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> OH, YES. OKAY. AND THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. THIS AMENDMENT REDUCES AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH ADMINISTRATION, THIS AMENDMENT
REDUCES THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATION OF 100,000 TO # A,000 AND CHANGES THE SOURCE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY REROUTES THAT TO CPED. THIS WILL ALSO BE ONGOING FUNDING THAT WOULD SUPPORT HIGH-RISE PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY
NEEDS. PROJECT LOOKOUT IS THE TENANT RUN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM AND RESIDT DESIRE FOR SAFETY PATROLLING WITHOUT MORE ARMED POLICE AND SECURITY. THIS ONGOING FUND WILLING HELP SUPPORT THEM IN PAYING A STAFF MEMBER TO SUPPORT THAT WORK.
AND WITH THAT, I DO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> YES. I REALLYO WANT TO
THANK COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WE HAVE HEARD MPHA TALK ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY FOR SECURITY AND SO ON, SO WHY NOT EMPOWER THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVER THERE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE GETTING
TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT A WAY TO STAY SAFE. I HAVE CLOSE TO 17 HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE DIFFERENT SAFETY AND POWER BEHIND THE RESIDENTSRGANIZING
AND MAKING SURE THE HIGH-RISE TENANT AND CONTINUES TO DO THE WORK THEY ALWAYS DID. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE SUBSCRIBED TO THE NEWSLETTER, BUT THEY SEND
OUT THE WONDERFUL THINGS AND THE WORK THEY GET DONE. FULLY SUPPORT THIS AND HOPING MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS. AND IT IS VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
AMGENLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY IT WAS DESIGNATING FUNDING TO A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION. WHY THERE WOULDN'T BE AN RFP AND PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THOUGH I APPRECIATE IF YOUR ANSWER IS A
TENANT-LED ORGANIZATION IS UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO DO SUCH PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT I DO HAVE THE QUESTION FOR THAT AUTHORS. THAT WAS A HUGE PROBLEM IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET THAT I KEPT NOTING AND WAS DISAPPOINTED TO SEE IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. IN MY OPINION,
MPHA MIGHT BE A BETTER ORGANIZATIONO IMPLEMENT THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TENANT LED ORGANIZATION AND APPRECIATE THAT MY AUTHORS DO. >> SO BEFORE I RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY TO ANSWER THE -- THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.
ON THE SECOND, ABOUT MPHA BEING, WHETHER PPHA IS THE RIGHT INTI TI FOR THE RESOURCES TO GO FOR. THIS IS PART OF -- THIS IS $50,000 AMENDMENT IS GOING TO GO
RIGHT ALONGSIDE WITHIN THE CPED EXISTING BASED BUDGET.
75, 100 -- YEAH. GNG BOTH TO THE TENANT COUNCIL AND I WILL
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY TO DISCUSS WHY TO ANSWER THE OTHER PART OF COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO'S QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. RIGHT NOW BY H.U.D.'S REQUIREMENTS, IT REQUIRES A TENANT COUNCIL, WHICH IS OUR
PUBLIC HIGH-RISE COUNCIL. THEY ARE THE ONLY BODY AS IT PERTAINS TO DOING THESE TYPE OF THINGS WITH PUBLIC HOUSING WHO ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO THIS UNDER H.U.D. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND IS SEPARATE FROM MPHA. THEY DON'T, THEY
HAVE SEPARATE FUNDING STREAMS PER H.U.D. RUIREMENTS AND ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITIES. HIGH-RISE COUNCIL WOULD BE CARRYING THIS OUT AND NOT BE MPHA. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION? >> NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN
QUEUE. AND I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE ROLL ON 19. >>PAYNE, AYE. >> RAINVILLE, AYE. >> VETAW, AYE. OSMAN, AYE. >> CASHMAN, AYE. >> JENKINS, AYE.
>> CHAVEZ, AYE. >> CHOWDHURY, AYE. >> PALMISANO, AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI, AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, AYE. >> THAT IS 12 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES.
THIS IS THE END OF THE CHUNK OF AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SAFETY. AND SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD TIME F US TO TAKE A RECESS BEFORE WE BEGIN THE NEXT SET OF AMENDMENTS, THE NEXT THREE AFTER THAT ARE RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESSING
HOMELESSNESS. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO TAKE A RECESS, ACTUALLY, FOR ABOUT -- LET'S JUST SAY -- LET'S COME BACK RIGHT AT 3:00. >> I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME THIS TIME.
>> LET'S DO 30 MINUTES EXACTLY. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER. WE ARE RECESSED. [THE MINNEAPOLIS BUDGET COMMITTEE IS IN RECESS] THE MINNEOLIS BUDGET COMMITTEE
IS IN A RECESS. THE MINNEAPOLIS BUDGET COMMITTEE
IS IN A RECESS.
MINNEAPOLIS BUDGET COMMITTEE IS IN A RECESS ] [ MINNEAPOLIS BUDGET COMMITTEE
IS IN A RECESS ]
. >> COLLEAGUES, WELCOME BACK. WE ARE READY TO CONTINUE WITH THE
MARK-UP PACKET. OUR NEXT AMENDMENT. SO WE ARE NOW READY TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT THREE AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE ALL RELATED TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
AMENDMENT 20 -- >> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, YOU WANT TO NOTE WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. >> GREAT CALL. WELCOME, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. AMENDMENT 20 IS TINY HOMES BIG DREAMS STUDY OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ,
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT. THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL WOULD MARK ONE-TIME FUNDING IN THE CPED DEPARTMENT TO STUDY THE VIABILITY OF A CITY
TINY HOME VILLAGE TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. INITIALLY, MY OFFICE WAS CONSIDERING LOOKING FOR SOURCES TO DEVELOP NEXT YEAR TINY HOME VILLAGES IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AS A WAY TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING CRISIS WE'RE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW WHERE MANY
OF OUR UHELTERED RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. AFT DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE CPED DEPARTMENT, WE FIGURED THA DOING MORE WORK ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE ROUTE.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS $15,000 FOR CPED TO STUDY WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE IN MINNEAPOLIS, WHETHER IT IS CITY OWNED OR JUST CITY FUNDED. ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I'LL SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS MINNEAPOLIS
AND IN THE PHILLIPS NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS IS THATUR RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO ASK US AS A CITY TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WORK ACROSS THE NATION ACROSS DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS THAT TINY
HOMES HAVE BEEN USED AS A METHOD TO HELP CONNECT RESIDENTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS WITH SERVICES AND ULTIMATELY FIND ACCESS TO A STABLE HOME TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. WE KNOW THA WE HAVE THE TINY VILLAGE THAT EXISTS HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT FOR THE PAST FEW
YEARS THIS BODY HAS EXPRESSED TEREST IN BUILDING ANOTHER TINY HOME VILLAGE IN MINNEAPOLIS. WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR A NONPROFIT TO PRODUCE THAT WORK WHEN WE CAN DETERMINE WAYS WE CAN WORK WITH DIFFERENT PARTNERS, ORGANIZATIONS, YOU NAME IT, TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD. WE'RE HOPING NEXT YEAR THE CPED DEPARTMENT CAN BEGIN THE WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY
DISCUSSION? REALLY? I'M NOT SEEING ANY. I'M SURPRISED BY THAT. CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY.
>> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> ELLISON. >> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE.
>> AND CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT'S 13 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS AMENDMENT 21, WHICH IS EMERGENCY SHELTER OPERATIONS FUNDING OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOWDHURY, PAYNE, CHAVEZ
AND KOSKI. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT
TO ALLOCATE $1 MILLION, ONE TIME FROM THE LOCAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO ONGOING OPERATIONS TO HENNEPIN COUNTY THROUGH OUR JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT. AND THIS AMENDMENT
FOR TODAY I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE URGENT NEED TO SUSTAIN ONGOING SHELTER OPERATIONS FOR THE PROVIDERS WHO SERVE OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS EVERY DAY. DURING THE PANDEMIC, EMERGENCY FEDERAL FUNDS ALLOWED SHELTER PROVIDERS TO EXPANDHOURS,
IMPROVE FACILITIES AND OFFER LOW BARRIER TRAUMA INFORMED CARE THAT ACTUALLY HELPS PEOPLE STABILIZE AND MOVE FORWARD TOWARD HOUSING. PROVIDERS STEPPED UP, THEY BUILT 24/7 OPERATIONS, INCREASED STAFFING, OPENED CULTURALLY SPECIFIC
PROGRAMS AND OPENED SAFER MORE DIGNIFIED SPACES. THOSE DOLLARS ARE EXPIRING. PROVIDERS ARE FACING SEVERE FUNDING SHORTFALL THAT THREATENS THEIR ABILITY TO STAY OPEN AT THE LEVEL OUR COMMUNITY RELIES ON. IF WE ALLOW THAT CLIFF TO HIT, PROVIDERS
WILL BE FORCED TO MAKE IMPOSSIBLE CHOICES. REDUCING HOURS, CUTTING STAFF, ELIMINATING BEDS OR CLOSING TIRE PROGRAMS. MORE THAN 300 24/7 BEDS COULD CONVERT TO OVERNIGHT ORDINARILY. LOW
BARRIER SHELTERS THAT SERVE PEOPLE WITH THE HIGHEST NEEDS COULD DISAPPEAR. OUTREACH AND NAVIGATION, THE VERY PROGRAMS THAT CONNECT PEOPLE TO PERMANENT HOUSING WOULD SHRINK DRAMATICALLY. AND THIS ISN'T JUST A HYPOTHETICAL, PROVIDERS TOS ARE ALREADY SIGNALING THAT
WITHOUT FUNDING FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY SIMPLY CANNOT MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT OPERATIONS. HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SEVERAL PROVIDERS FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES, PEOPLE
SERVING PEOPLE, AGET, AVIVO. WE KNOW IF THEY CAN'T OPERATE, THE IMPACT FALLS DIRECTLY ON OUR CITY. MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE IN EXTREME WEATHER, MORE ENCAMPMENTS, MORE STRAIN ON RESOURCES, AND FEWER PATHWAYS
OUT OF RESOURCES. WE'RE MAKING OUR SHELTERS SAFER. WE'RE BUILDING UP MORE INNOVATIVE SERVICES AND HUMANE CONDITIONS. AND WE RISK ALL OF THIS BEING UNDONE ALMOST OVERNIGHT. AND WHILE THIS IS ONE-TIME FUNDING,
THIS PAIRED WITH $1 MILLION WE'RE ALREADY ALLOCATING WITHIN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT WE ARE SEEING AND KEEP MORE SERVICES ONLINE AS WE PUSH OUR STATE LEGISLATURE TO SUPPORT THE BRIDGE TO SHELTER BILL TO ENSURE INTO THE FUTURE
WE HAVE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING TO FULLY ADDRESS THE FISCAL CLIFF. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT IN THE RECENT MONTHS, HUD HAS FINALIZED DEEP CUTS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTING WHICH
THREATENS THOUSANDS OF MINNESOTANS. SUPPORTS OVER 3,600 PEOPLE INCLUDING SENIORS, VETERANS, FAMILIES, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. AND THE CUTS COULD ELIMINATE MORE THANALF OF THAT FUNDING, WHICH MEANS MORE OF OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR
STREETS. AND WE'RE SEEING A SQUEEZE THEN AT ONE END OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WHERE IT'S PERMANENT HOUSING. AND NOW ON THIS END OF IMMEDIATE SHELTER AND SHELTER OPERATIONS. AND SO THIS IS ONE STEP THAT WE CAN TAKE TODAY AS A COUNCIL. AND SO
I ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO CONTINUE OR TO SUPPORT ONGOING SHELTER OPERATIONS. AND I KNOW THAT MY FELLOW CO-AUTHORS PROBABLYAVE SOME WORDS THAT THEY WANT TO SAY, BUT I AM ALSO AVAILAE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT
HAVE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. >> THANK YOU. MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN REALLY, REALLY
RELUCTANT TO SUPPORT THIS. I'VE SEEN THAT THE AMOUNT HAS COME DOWN, WHICH IS ENCOURAGING. AND I PROBABLY WILL SUPPORT IT FOR THAT REASON. AND OBVIOUSLY, I SUPPORT -- WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SHELTER AID. COUNCIL
MEMBER CHOWDHURY LAID OUT WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. PART OF AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE CLOSE THE GAP LAST YEAR FOR AVIVO VILLAGES. THIS IS WORK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I WANT TO REALLY CAUTION AGAINST US PITTING LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING AGAINST SHELTER
FUNDING. IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. IT WILL GET OUT OF CONTROLFAST. AND ONCE WE START, YOU KNOW, DOUBLING AND TRIPLING DOWN O USING SOURCES THAT COULD GO TOWARDS LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BE IN PLAY, DOLLARS THAT CAN BE IN PLAY FOR 30 YEARS, AND START PUTTING THEM
TOWARDS SHELTER OPERATIONS THAT WE KNOW ARE ONLY GOING TO LAST ONE YEAR, WE PLAY A REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS GAME AND WE START LOSING MONEY REALLY, REALLY FAST. AND SO I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE SOURCE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE MISSION. I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE MISSION OF TRYING TO STOP THE BLEEDING
HERE. BUT I DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MAKE A DIRECT REQUEST TO THE CO-AUTHORS THAT IN THE FUTURE, YOU MAKE SURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUSTFUND AND LAHA BECOMES ONE OF THOSE
THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK IS PERMISSIBLE TO TOUCH. -- AND SAY LOOK, DURING EMERGENCIES MAYBE WE CAN START TO CONSIDER THIS. BUT IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND WE START TO SEE THIS AS AN OPEN SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR OTHER
PROJECTS. I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE I WANT IT TO REALLY SINK IN. WHEN OUR STAFF BUT $1 MILLION TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT MONEY STAYS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT STAYS ACTIVE. IT STAYS OPERATIONAL FOR UP TO 30 YEARS. AND SO THAT'S THE RISK.
THAT'S THE TRADE-OFF. AND OF COURSE WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS. RIGHT. OF COURSE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE. BUT I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO THE HABIT OF PITTING THESE TWO REALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. SO I'LL VOTE FOR THIS HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF SOME OF
THE DISCUSSION I'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE MILLIONS COME DOWN A BIT OVER THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. AND I APPRECIATE THAT FLEXIBILITY. BUT AGAIN, CAN'T REITERATE HOW MUCH IT CONCERNS ME TO SEE THIS,
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND POTENTIALLY BE USED AS A SOURCE IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE MAYOR'S BUDGET ALREADY INVESTS $1 MILLION FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. THAT WAS SOMETHING I
ASKED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO CONSIDER AS HE WAS PUTTING TOGETHER HIS BUDGET. WE ARE A PARTNER IN ADDRESSING HOMESSNESS. OTHERS REALLY NEED TO STEP UP TOO. AND WE CAN'T DO THIS BY OURSELVES. I WON'T REITERATE ALL THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON SAID ABOUT THIS, BUT I AGREE WITH HIM
WHOLE HEARTEDLY. THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FEDERAL DECISION RELATED CUTS TO PERMANENT HOUSING FUNDING IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. IF THIS IS JUSTIFICATION, SHOULDN'T THE MONEY STAY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND TO CREATE
MORE PERMANENT AND AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR PEOPLEXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR IN JEOPARDY. THIS FEELS LIKE A TRADE-OFF BETWEEN LONG-TERM HOUSING PRODUCTION AND SHELTER OPERATIONS. SO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON SAID, WE CANNOT PIT THESE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.
AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT LONG-TERM HOUSING IS THE BEST USE OF THESE FUNDS FOR THE CITY PAST WHAT THE MAYOR ALREADY DECIDED TO INVEST HERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CAMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M WONDERING IF DIRTOR HANSON IS HERE TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> HS MAKING HIS WAY UP. >> THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION WAS JUST ABOUT LAHA IN GENERAL IF THERE WERE ANY RESTRICTIONS
OR CLARIFICATIONS AROUND HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT FROM THE STATE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, IT'S A JOY TO BE HERE. ERIC HANSON, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CPED. I'M GOING TO ASK MY FRIENDS AT THE BUDGET OFFICE FOR THOSE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN USE
FOR LAHA, IF YOU'RE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT. >> YEAH. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS AROUN THE AMI REQUIREMENTS TO RECEIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND MONEY. >> THE AMI REQUIREMENTS, I CAN
ANSWER THAT QUESTION, CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. SO WE HAVE GRADUATED AFFORDABILITY IN OUR PROGRAMS. UNIFIED HOUSING POLICY OF THE
CITY IS A 50% AMI. THAT'S ABOUT -- DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD. 30% AMI IS ABOUT $38,000 A YEAR FOR FAMILY OF FOUR. TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW MUCH. DEEY AFFORDABLE IS THAT 30% AMI. WE
WILL EVALUATE THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND WHICH TYPES OF UNITS ARE AVAILABLE TO DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND THEN THEY WILL SCORE POINTS. SO THE FURTHER -- THE DEEPER THE AFFORDABILITY, THE HIGHER SCORE YOU GET AND THE
MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO GET FUNDED. SO YOU CAN GO UP TO 50%, 30% TYPICALLY. BUTT'S USUALLY A MIX IN THOSE BUILDINGS. AND IT'S PROJECT BY PROJECT. >> THEY STACK IT ON TOP OF A
BUNCH OF OTHER SOURCES AS WELL. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, WE PUT A PORTION OF IT. ROUGHLY ABOUT $40,000 PER UNIT OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND IN EACH UNIT. AND IT COSTS, Y KNOW, PROBABLY ABOUT 10 TIMES
THAT MUCH TO DO A UNIT OR MORE THESE DAYS. >> OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, HOW MUCH IS IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRU FUND FOR NEXT YEAR? >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, I'LL HAVE THE BUDGET OFFICE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, AND I WILL GO GET
THE LITTLE SPREADSHEET. >> OKAY. >> WELCOME DIRECTOR DISCENZA WHEN SHE'S READY.
>> THE AUTHOR COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS $17 MILLN FOR 2026 THAT'S IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, YES, $17 MILLION. THAT IS NARRATED A
BIT MORE ON THE CPED PAGE OF THE BOOK, AND LAHA IS PART OF THAT. WE JUST RECENTLY HAD TO WORK WITH CPED TO SUBMIT. TO ANSWER E EARLIER QUESTION, THE CATEGORIES THAT WE REPORT ON FOR THE STATE OF ELIGIBLE SPENDING ARE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSTANCE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS, MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. SO NEVER MIND THAT ONE. AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCING. OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT FOR
FINANCIALLY DISTRESSED PROPERTIES. AFFORDABLE SHELTER, WHICH WAS A CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL BILL, AND OTHER PROJECTS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL. >> THANKS. JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF HOW MUCH OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND WAS BEING TAKEN. AND IT'S NOT
SUPER SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. $1 MILLION OUT OF $17 MILLION. I GUESS THAT'S A DEBATABLE WORD TO USE, "SIGNIFICANT" BUT ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS FALLS WITHIN WHAT LAHA WAS DESIGNATED FOR. IT WAS SPELLED OUT. I JUST
WANTED TO ADD THE COMMENT THAT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE BEENOING -- I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH PROFESSIONALS ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT TYPES O AREAS OF WORK IN THE HOUSING SPACE. AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE TOP THING THAT THESE HOUSING
PROFESSIONALS ARE TELLING ME IS THAT THE BIGGEST GAP AND CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS THE NON-PROFIT SHELTER FISCAL CLIFF FOR THEIR OPERATIONS. AND I THINK TO THAT END, I THINK THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS RESPONSIVE
TO THAT NEED AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY. >> DIRECTOR HANSON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR -- OH. >> I DO. >> COME ON BACK. >> IF I MAY. IF I MAY, THROUGH
THE CHAIR, I DID WANT TO FLAG IN REFERENCE TO COUNCIL MEMR ELLISON'S COMMENTS, WE SHOULD JUST NOTE THAT THE CONTEXT FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING REDUCED FUNDING FROM OUR TIF SOURCES FROM THAT IN THE COMING
YEARS. A PRETTY DRASTIC DROP-OFF IN FUNDING IS TO COME OUR WAY BECAUSE THOSE TIF ARE EXPIRING. THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THE TRUST FUND, IT'S LIKELY THAT LAHA WILL BE FOR FUTURE YEARS.
>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN? >> NO. >> WONDERFUL. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> I'LL BE QUICK. I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THIS
AND NOT TOUCHING THIS MONEY. NOT MAKING A HABIT. I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S WONDERFUL JOB AND THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT SHOWS A LOT OF SUCCESS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT ALSO, SOMETIMES CRISIS COME UP.
I THINK LAST YEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY DID AN AMAZING JOB, OR WAS IT THIS YEAR, WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COLD WEATHER, THE ENCAMPMENTS, THE EVICTIONS, FOLKS BEING OUTSIDE, FINDING NO
PLACE TO GO. SO THIS WILL BRING A LOT OF RELIEF TO THE EMERGENCY SIATIONS THAT SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH. IN THE WINTER, IN THIS COLD WEHER, PEOPLE NEED TO GO
PLACES. AND I SUPPORT THIS. BUT I DO WANT TO BOTH HIGHLIGHTED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR DEALING WITH THINGS THAT COME UP. EMERGENCY. AND ALSO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO KEEP THIS TOOL. KEEP THIS MONEY. THANK
YOU. >> THA YOU. NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S COMMENTS THAT I
THINK THEY'RE PRETTY FAIR. RIGHT. THERE IS 100% A TRADE-OFF HERE. AND THERE IS A PICTURE INTO THE FUTURE AS OUR BUDGET CHAIR PUT FORWARD IS THAT WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THE FUNDING THAT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST
FUND RELIED ON FROM TIF. AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING CAREFULLY ABOUT THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT AND WHAT THE TRADE-OFFS WERE. AND THIS FEELS KE ONE OF THE LAST
OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO USE LAHA FUNDING FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS IN THIS WAY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO USE NEARLY ALL OF IT TO FILL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANTOOL. AND I KNOW I WILL BE CONTINUING ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT I WILL KEEP IN MIND. AND IT IS A SOURCE THAT I DO WANT TO PROTT AND I DO CARE ABOUT. BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT CIRMSTANCES RIGHT NOW WITH THE CHANGES OF THE FEDERAL LEVEL, IT'S NOT THAT
LIKE, WITH THE LOSS OF FUNDING FOR RAPID REHOUSING, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD FUTURE UNITS. THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT. WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE WHO WERE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS RISK FALLING RIGHT BACK ON TO THE
STREETS. AND THAT'S A NOW ISSUE. THAT'S NOT A, OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A FEW YEARS. AND THAT'S THE SQUEEZE THAT WE'RE IN. SO THAT'S HOW I CAME TO THIS DECISION. I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE UP HERE ABOUT THIS. AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT
FROM MY COLLEAGUES TOO. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. >> THANK YOU. SORRY TO JUMP BACK IN CUE - QUEUE. I ALSO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IN
THIS BODY TO -- IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO A CRISIS. BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT KID OURSELVES IN THE PROCESS OF WHAT THAT TRADE-OFF IS. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION I WANT TO GET
CONFIRMATION ON, IF DIRECTOR HANSON COULD -- I USUALLY TRY NOT TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T ALREADY KNOW 100% THE ANSWER TO. SO I GUESS I'M TAKING A BIT OF A RISK. WHEN WE PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND DOLLARS INTO A PROJECT AND W FILL THAT GAP AND IT'S ABOUT 10%
OF A PROJECT, THAT MAY SOU LIKE OKAY, NOT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GAP TO FILL. BUT IF WE DON'T FILL THAT GAP, HOW MANY OF THOSE UNITS END UP GETTING BUILT? >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THEY DON'T GET BUILT.
>> RIGHT. >> THEY JUST DON'T GET BUILT. >> RIGHT. SO IT'S 10%. WE FILL THE GAP UP TO 10%. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IF WE DON'T COME IN, THAT 10% GETS FILLED SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF WE DON'T FILL THE 10% GAP, THAT IS NOT A UNIT THAT HITS O
CITY. THAT IS NOT A UNIT THAT SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS. THAT IS A UNIT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR. AND AGAIN, CRISIS IS CRISIS, AND WE'RE SEEING HOMELESSNESS INCREASE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE SEEING HOUSING CRISIS INCREASE ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. RENT PRICES INCREASE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AGAIN, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. BUT 25 YEARS -- SORRY, $1 MILLION COVERS ABOUT 25 UNITS, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN FINANCE. BUT THAT'S 25 UNITS FOR
ABOUT HOW LONG? 30 YEARS? VERSUS SHELTER STABILIZATION, AGAIN, VERY IMPORTANT FOR HOW LONG? ABOUT A YEAR? SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRADING HERE. AND
SO -- SORRY, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD, DIRECTOR HANSON. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE RENT STABILIZATION IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. EVERYBODY UP HERE KNOWS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD. WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO THE ONLY THING
THAT STABILIZING OUR RENTS IS NEW BUILDS. WE'VE SEEN THAT MARKET RATE NEW BUILD IS KIND OF STALLED OUT. AND SO THE ONLY THING GETTING BUILT IS SUBSIDIZED UNITS. SO WE TAKE $1 MILLION OUT. WE REMOVE 25 UNITS. RIGHT. IT'S FOR AN EMERGENCY. WE UNDERSTAND THE
COST. BUT I JUST WANT US TO NOT SIT UP HERE AND KID THE PUBLIC AND KID OURSELVES ABOUT WHAT COUNTS AS SIGNIFICANT AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE TRADING. BECAUSE IFE GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T KNOW THE COST, WE DON'T FULLY COMPREHEND THE COST,
THEN I FEAR THAT IN FUTURE COUNCILS, WE'RE GOING TO THINK IT'S PERMISSIBLE TO TAKE ANOTHER $1 MILLION OR ANOTHER $2 MILLION. AS THE YEARS GO BY, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO LOSE A REAL DOLLAR, RIGHT, OUT OF THIS FUND, WE'RE ALSO EVERY SINGLE
YEAR, YEAR IN, YEAR OUT, A DOLLAR LOSES VALUE TOO. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE $17 MILLION IN THE FUND. AND THAT $1 MILLION IS GOING TO GO LESS FAR THAN IT WOULD THE YEAR BEFORE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, AGAIN. IF I WANTED TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT
AGAINST VOTING FOR THIS, I FEEL LIKE IOULD DO THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS FOR THE SAKE OF STOPPING THE BLEEDING EN IT COMES TO SHELTER CLOSURES. I THINK THAT THERE'S A REAL CASE FOR WHY WE SHOULD DO THIS. BUT THERE'S ALSO A REAL CASE FOR WHY WE SHOULDN'T. AND I DON'T WANT US TO KID OURSELVES
AND I DON'T WANT US TO KID THE PUBLIC. >> NEXT, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT SHUGT -- CHUGHTAI. I KIND OF WANT TO BRING US INTO W
DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE LAHA DOLLARS, FOR EXAMPLE. WHY ARE WE NOT WORKING TOGETHER TO DECIDE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED THROUGH A SPECIAL MEETING, THROUGH A -- OR
SOME OTHER PROCESS. BUT I THINK THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS THE MAYOR IS DECIDING HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE USED. AND ALSO, THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON LAHA DOLLARS. RIGHT. WE CAN'T USE LAHA DOLLARS TO BACK FILL. AND THERE ARE
RESTRICTIONS AROUND THAT. I HAVE CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE. ARE WE BACK FILL IT AND THEN WE ACTUALLY AREN'T LIKE DOING MORE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT WE'RE JUST USING THAT STATE AID TO STAY AT THE SAME LEVEL. WHICH I
HAVE CONCERNS. WE SHOULD ALWAYS KEEP IT AT $17 MILLION, BUT WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP SHELTER OPERATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WANT US TO ADDRESS. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S CONCERNS. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THESE NEED TO BE COMPETING MEASURES NEXT YEAR.
I THIS I THIS CYCLE AND THIS BUDGET CYCLE, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY PAS THIS. -- DEVELOP A STRATEGY IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE HAVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BUT ALSO NOT LOSE THE SHELTER OPERATIONS THAT WE NEED
TO DO. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING SHELTER IMPACTS. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS A LACK OF SHELTER CAPACITY IN THIS CITY AND IN THIS COUNTY. THAT IS A FACT. YOU CAN LOOK AT HENNEPIN COUNTY'S DASHBOARD WHERE THERE
ARE TIMES AND MANY INSTANCES ZERO SHELTER BEDS AVAILABLE AT NIGHT. NOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THESE SHELTERS CLOSE DOWN? THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS SHELTER CAPACITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE IN THE FREEZING COLD WEATHER. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED
TO DISCUSS AS A CITY, AS A CITY COUNCIL. WE JUST HAD AN ORDINANCE IN THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING, AT LEAST SEVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO WANTED TO SHELTERNDOORS COULDN'T BECAUSE THERE WASN'T CAPACITY. THAT
MEANS SEVEN INDIVIDUALS AS A MINIMUM,ECAUSE THERE'S WAY MORE THAN THAT, AND WE WOULD HAVE PROOF TO DO THAT. BUT AT A MINIMUM, SEVEN INDIVIDUALS COULD NOT GET ACCESS TO SHELTER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SPACE AVAILABLE. THAT IS A SYSTEMIC FAILURE OF CITY, COUNTY, STATE
AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IN NO INSTANCES SHOULD NO ONE EVER HAVE TO BE DENIED HOUSING OR SHELTER BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCESS TO IT. THAT'S NOT OKAY. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS SAYING. I THINK PART OF HOW WE ADDRESS THAT CONCERN NEXT YEAR
IS WE ALL NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK, BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STABILIZE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BUT ALSO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR OUR SHELTERS, PERIOD. THEY SHOULD NOT BE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER. WE
HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THIS INSTANCE. BUT NEXT YEAR, THOSE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO HAPPEN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A BUDGET TO BE PROPOSED. WE CAN TAKE ACTION. >> THANK U. AND FINALLY, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE.
THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE SERIONESS TO WHICH I TAKE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S WARNING HERE. AND I THINK THAT WE ALL NEED TO INTERNALIZE THAT. AS A CITY, WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S
LEADERSHIP OUT THROUGHOUT THESE EIGHT YEARS OF JUST THAT CONSTANT PERSISTENT AND TENACIOUS FOCUS ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IS TO HAVE A ROBUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND PROGRAM AND TO BE A LEADER IN DEVELOPING
THIS TYPE OF POLICY AGENDA. SO I THINK WE GOTTA TAKE THAT WARNING VERY SERIOUSLY. I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE HIS SUPPORT ON THIS AMENDMENT GIVEN THE CURRENT CONTEXT. AND I THINK ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO TAKE FORWARD GOING INTO THE NEXT TERM IS JUST A REAL SERIOUSNESS
AROUND RECOGNIZING OUR CONTEXT, RECOGNIZING THE MARKET CONDITIONS, RECOGNIZING THE INTEREST RAS, RECOGNIZING THE FEDERAL CLIMATE AND MAKING SURE THE HOUSING IS -- THAT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT WE ALL TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. I JUST WANTED TO
GET THAT ON THE RECORD. >> I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN QUEUE. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW.
>> NO. ELLISON. >> AYE. >> OSMAN IS -- >> SORRY. >> OSMAN. >> OH, SHELTER. YES, AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> NAY. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE.
>> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 10 AYES AND THREE NAYS.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP WE HAVE AMENDMENT 22. THERE IS A NEWLY REVISED VERSION OF THIS THAT THE CLERKS BROUGHT TO OUR DESK AS WE WERE RESTARTING.
AMENDMENT 22 HAS SEVERAL PARTS TO IT. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH THE TOP. I'M GOING TO -- THIS IS REINSTATING EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS OFRED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS
WONSLEY, OSMAN, CHAVEZ, MYSELF, AND CHUGHTAI -- CHOWDHURY. [LAUGHTER] >> AND CHOWDHU. SO I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY TO INTRODUCE THIS AMENDMENT AND
THEN WALK US THROUGH WHAT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS AMENDMENT ARE. AND WE'LL TAKE THEM EACH UP ONE AT A TIME. >> OKAY. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE WAS A WAY TO AT LEAST MOVE THEM ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL RELATED. >> IF YOU'LL JUST DESCRIBE THOSE
ONE AT A TIME AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. SO LAST YEAR THIS BODY FUNDED A PROGRAM THAT WOULD HAVE SUPPORTEDT MINIMUM 150 RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED
AND GET THEM INTO HOUSING WRAP AROUND SERVICES. I BROUGHT FORWARD THIS AMENDMENT AFTER NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PARTNERS AT HENNEPIN COUNTY AND MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY TO LEARN HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO BEST RESPOND TO UNSHELTERED
HOMELESSNESS THAT WE DEEMED AS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY EVEN AS A BODY TWO YEARS AGO. THE BIGGEST TAKEAW FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS WAS THAT THE CITY DID NOT HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND THEY COULD FUND A PROGRAM THAT THE COUNTY AND MPHA HAVE ALREA EXECUTED AND THAT
DEMONSTRATED INCREDIBLE SUCCESS. EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS WAS UTILIZED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WAS FUNDED BY ARPA DOLLARS AND NATIONWIDE, WE SAW THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY CONTINUED TO REFERENCE IT AS BEING ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS AT REDUCING SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS. I RECEIVED UPDATES, AND AT THE ENE THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO
EXTEND STAFF TIME TO IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE THE CITY HAD NOT PROVIDED A FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO ACCESS THE START OF FUNDING THAT COUNCIL APPROPRIATED WHEN WE PASSED FUNDING FOR THIS EXACT MEASURE LAST YEAR. AND THEN A FEW WEEKS LATER, WE ALL CAME TO LEARN THAT
THE MAYOR PROPOSED IN HIS BUDGET FOR 2026 TO COMPLETELY CUT ONGOING FUNDING FOR THIS INITIATIVE. AND I'LL SAVE COMMENTS LATER ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SLOW WALKING AND THEN ABRUPTLY PULLING OUT OF MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL
PARTNERSHIPS LATER AND HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR WORK TO ACTUALLY DELIVER NEEDED SERVICES. BUT I WILL SAY ULTIMATELY, THAT SLOW WALKING BY THE ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING THESE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS LEFT AT
LEAST 150 RESIDENTS OUT ON THE STREETS THIS YEAR WHEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN INDOORS AND RECEIVING WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THIS NEW FUNDING, HOWEVER, RESTORES THE CUTS AND WILL ALLOW 100 VOUCHERS TO BE FULLY FUNDED IN 2026. THE FUNDING F THIS
COMES FROM TWO POSITIONS. ONE FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. ANOTHER FTE POSITION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE REVISED MOTION THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED. THIS PROGRAM ALSO NEEDS ONGOING FUNDING IN THOSE TWO APPROPRIATED POSITIONS WILL HELP
ACHIEVE EXACTLY THAT. THE OTHER SOURCE COMES FROM MPD'S BUDGET. WE MADE IT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND OFF DUTY. FOR YEARS, MPD, AND ULTIMATELY TAXPAYERS, HAVE BEEN
SUBSIDIZG THE COSTS OF -- $1. $1.4 MILLION. COUNCIL HAS NOW GIVEN MPD THE AUTHORITY AND THE TOOLS TO START COLLECTING THOSE TOOLS IN 2026 AND ESSENTIALLY RECOUP THE COST OF THAT PROGRAM.
THIS ALLOWS FOR ALMOST A BUDGET NEUTRAL APPROACH F THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE. ALSO INCLUDED IN THISOTION IS ANOTHER MOTION TITLED 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT ADDRESSES MAYOR FREY'S NEGLECT OF ANOTHER CRITICAL ANTI-HOMELESSNESS
PROGRAM CALLED STABLE HOMES, STABLE SCHOOLS. $2 MILLION FUNDING GAP. AND THAT GAP GROWS INTO A LARGER AMOUNT COME 2026 AND 2027. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DESTABILIZING THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE IT DOES GREAT WORK. AND I WILL
NOT ATTEMPT TO PIT THIS PROGRAM OF THEMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS AGAINST THAT ONE. THAT SAID, THIS 2025 RESOLUTION THAT'S ALSO ACCOMPANIED WITH THIS MOTION REALLOCATES THE $1.4 MILLION OUT OF THE $1.8 MILLION THAT WE ALLOCATED BACK IN 2024 FOR STABLE HOMES
AND STABLE SCHOOLS. THIS WILL LEAVE $400,000 IN THE 2025 EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER APPROPRIATION, WHICH WERE ONE-TIME DOLLARS. I TRULY HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT DRAG
ITS FEET IN GETTING DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR. SO THAT HA CAN START DOING CRITICAL WORK IN GETTING UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS HOUSED. INITIALLY I HAD DIRECTIVE THAT ASKS FOR UPDATES SINCE IT'S CLEAR THAT THE COUNCIL WILL NEED
TO EXERCISE MORE OVERSIGHT IN A FORMAL WAY AROUND HOW THIS PROGRAM GETS IMPLEMENTED AND WHEN, THE PROGRESS ON IT. WITH THAT, THE ORDER OF THESE VOTES IS THE REAPPROPRIATION OF THE 2025 EMERGENCY HOUSING FUNDING,
A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT MONITORS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM. AND THE LAST VOTE IS ULTIMATELY THE 2026 ONGOING FUNDING TO REINSTATE THAT EMERGENCY HOUSING PROGRAM. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION
BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> MADAM CHAIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD FIRST TO OTHER AUTHORS, IF THERE'S ANYBODY. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. THEY'LL GET IN QUEUE.
>> TOGETHER, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS. LET'S SEE WHAT TO SPEAK ABOUT FIRST. THIS AMENDMENT, ALONG WITH ITEMS 16 AND 17, I BELIEVE, TOTAL OVER $3 MILLION IN EARMARKS WITHIN MPD'S PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES
BUDGET. THIS AMENDMENT ALONG WITH FUTURE ONES, 36 AND 37, CUTS EIGHT TOTAL POSITIONS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE SOME FUTURE AMENDMENTS TO THAT. THOUGH THE REVISED VERSION HERE ACTUAY MAKES IT SEVEN POSITIONS. I DON'T THINK
THERE ARE ANY VACANT FTEs IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THESE FEEL VINDICTIVE. I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN IN DEEP CONVERSATION, THOUGH, WITH THE AUTHORS HERE. SO I'D LIKE TO
HEAR FROM STAFF. I SEE MARGARET ANDERSON-KELLIHER HERE TO SAY HOW HAS THAT LANDED FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. >> WELCOME BACK. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, COUNCILEMBER
PALMISANO, I'M GOING TO START BY TAKING US BACK TO WHAT THE TASK WAS GIVEN TO MEMBERS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN WE STARTED ASSEMBLING THIS BUDGET. THE MAYOR MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT
THERE WERE A FEW TOP PRIORITIES. ONE WAS TO LOWER THE LEVY SO THE BURDEN ON RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS WENT DOWN. WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BY CUTTING $26 MILLION OUT
OF THIS BUDGET. IMPORTANTLY, A SECOND GOAL WAS TO HAVE NO CUTS TO PEOPLE WHO WERE IN FTE SEATS. SO THAT MEANS NO LAYOFFS. NO MATTER IF THAT PERSON IS OUR
LINE PUBLIC SERVICE WORKER OR IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, OR IN THE COUNCIL STAFF, OR IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. AND WE DID THAT I'M PROUD OF THAT WORK THAT WE DID. WE'VE BEEN HAVING EXCELLENT CONVERSATIONS WITH
CHAIR CHUGHT AND HER STAFF. IN FACT, WE HAVE AGREED ON 76% OF THESE AMENDMENTS. THE ADMINISTRATION, AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE GIVEN AS WELL ON YOUR AMENDMENTS, THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS CONTRIBUTED $3.4 MILLION IN ONGOING FUNDING ALREADY TO THE 38 AMENDMENTS YOU SEE. THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED OVER $8 MILLION IN ONE-TIME MONEY TO
HELP SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN THESE.E HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIX VACANT FTEs ALL FROM THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE LINE OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK ON THIS
BUDGET. I PLEAD WITH YOU, THE MAYOR'S BRIGHT FLUORESCENT LINE HAS BEEN NO LAYOFFS. TO PEOPLE IN SEATS. WE CAN SOLVE THESE
PROBLEMS. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE THROUGH THEM. WE NEED A WILLING HAND FROM A FEW MORE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO WORK ON THAT. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A SIGNED
BUDGET THAT MEANS WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO IMPLEMENT THE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET IN 2026. THAT WOULD BE SUCH A REFRESHING THING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH TIME TO CALL BACK UP COMMISSIONER BARNETT, BUT I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED INTO WHAT THIS CUT IN SERVICES FOR MPD WOULD MEAN TO OUR RESIDENTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT RESIDENT FACING SERVICES THAT WE COULD NO LONGER PROVIDE. WE ALREADY HAVE IN
SPEAKING FACE-TO-FACE THROUGH A CAMPAIGN TO RESIDENTS THIS YEAR, THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO GET POLICE SERVICES WHEN AND WHERE THEY NEEDTHEM. SOMETIMES WHEN THEY JUST NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. A CIVILIAN SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF THINGS HAPPENING IN
UPTOWN, FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT STAFF WILL MPD HAVE TO LAYOFF? HOW MANY? HOW MANY CIVILIANS? THESE ARE ALL CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T EXPECT THE COMMISSIONER TO HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE STATS ON THAT. BUT THE IMPACTS ON THIS ARE REALLY STEEP
TO THE OPERATIONS OF MPD, LET ALONE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. SINCE I SEE COMMISSIONER BARNETT COMING UP, I'LL MENTION THAT I HAVE LESS THAN TWO MINUTES BUT WOULD BE HAPPY FOR YOU TO OPINE IN GENERAL ABOUT THE THINGS I JUST SAID. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. I WAS
JUST LOOKING AT THE SOURCE HERE, THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIVISION. WE'VE -- I THINK ALREADY THERE'S BEEN AN EARMARK OF $1.7 MILLION FOR THE NON-FATAL SHOOTING. NOW WE'RE TAKING ANOTHER $1 MILLION.
I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO ALL THE THINGS THAT NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL IS ASKING US TO DO, BUT THE CITIZENS ARE ASKING US TO DO. WE'RE -- I
THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO FIND PEOPLE FOR ALL 731 SPOTS, AND WE MADE SOME PROGRESS THERE. BUT AT SOME POINT, THE ONLY AREA WHERE WE
END UP CUTTING, AND I KNOW COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE AND OTHERS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, MPD AND LEADERSHIP GETS TO DECIDE WHERE THOSE CUTS ARE. AND THIS IS WHERE WE START TO GET INTO CUTTING OUR CIVILIAN STAFF, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE
WORK THAT WE DO. THESE CUTS ARE JUST MOUNTING UP TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN'T DO ALL THE THINGS. THANK YOU. >>YEAH. THANK YOU. IT TOTALS OVER $3 MILLION BETWEEN THESE THREE AMENDMENTS.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. >> THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE REASONS WHY. THE FIRST REASON I'M GOING TO CHANNEL ALICE RAINVILLE, THE
FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO WHEN EMERGENCY SHELTERS CAME FORTH, AND THE CITYICKED THAT UP, WOULD CONTINUOUSLY SAY THE MORE THE CITY DOES FOR THE COUNTY, THE LESS THE COUNTY WILL DO FOR THE CITY. I SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE
COUNTY NEE TO STEP UP, NOT US. THE SECOND IS THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DEFUND THE POLICE MOVEMENT. WE ARE 40% OF THE STAFF WE SHOULD HAVE. WE SHOULD HAVE A FORCE OF 1200. AND WE HAVE ABOUT 600. THIS IS GOING TO
HURT OUR EFFORTS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE THIRD REASON IS THIS LAYOFFS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THIS IS JUST PLAIN MEAN. HAD YOUR CANDIDATE WON THE MAYOR'S RACE, YOUOULD NOT BE DOING THIS. >> SIR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO --
NO, UH-UH. UH-UH. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE Y'D LIKE TO SAY? >> I SAID IT ALL. >> GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CVP CHUGHTAI. I
JUST WANT TO OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO LOTS OF CONFLATING. SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY, NOT FATAL TASK FORCE. THOSE ARE ALL SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCES. ACTUALLY, IT FUNDS THE POLICE. IT DOES OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT. IT GIVES MPD THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO DO TO ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOB WHICH IS SOLVE CRIMES AND KEEP RESIDENTS SAFE. AND WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH NON-FATAL TASK FORCE. THOSE SHOULD NOT BE CUTS.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS AS I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN MY ORIGINAL COMMENTS, SHOULD MPD IMPLEMENT THE COLLECTION OF OFF DUTY FEES, YOU WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING IN
$1.4 MILLION. THAT IS ALREADY WHAT YOU HAVE ABSORBED IN YOUR BUDGET BY SUBSIDIZING SIDE GIGS THAT ONLY BENEFITS THE POCKETS OF OFFICERS AND DO NOT SHARE TO THE PUBLIC GOOD AROUND OUR SAFETY NEEDS. THERE'S A TRADE
OFF THERE. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO REPLACE THAT SUBSIDIZATION THAT TAXPAYERS ARE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR THROUGH A FEE MECHANISM THA ACTUALLY PLACED THE COSTS OF THAT PROGRAM ON VENDORS THAT ARE LOOKING TO SOLICIT THOSE SERVICES. SO I JUST WANTED TO NAME THAT. WE
HAVE LARGELY THROUGHOUT THIS BUDGET BEEN AS COO MARGARET ANDERSON KELLIHER -- REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MAYORAL STAFFING CUTS
TO ACTUALLY GET TO A PLACE WHERE OUR PRIORITIES CAN BE SUPPORTED, AND ALSO MEET HIS RED LINE. AND WE LARGELY HAVE DONE THAT. THERE'S REVISIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD THAT ALSO HAS ADDRESSES SOME OF THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. IF IT TAKES ONE FTE FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THEN
ONE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OUT OF THE ACTUAL TOTAL NUMBER THAT WE ORIGINALLY CONSIDERING, I THINK THAT IS AN ACTUAL GOOD TRADE OFF. AND I GET THIS BUDGET MEANS MAKING SOME HARD DECISIONS. THIS IS A HARD DECISION TO MAKE. AND ALSO HARD
DECISION IS LETTING OVER HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SLEEP OUTSIDE AND SAY OUR SOLUTION TO THAT IS JUST WAIT UIL THE COUNTY STEP UP. AND BY THE WAY, THE COUNTY IS STEPPING UP. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE PART OF TS PARTNERSHIP. AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING OF THAT WORK. SO WRE
SAYING WE'RE HERE ALSO AS AN EQUAL PLAYER WITH YOU AND TRYING TO ADVANCE THAT WORK OF GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS. SO I JUST WANTED TO GROUND THAT PIECE AND THE FUTURE PACKAGE ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO DO BOTH THINGS, REINSTATE THESE VOUCHERS BECAUSE
WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THIS PLACE OF DELIBERATING THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT HAD THE MAYOR IMPLEMENTED IN 2025 AS WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED LAST CYCLE. HE CHOSE NOT TO. THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VINDICTIVENESS. THE
MAYOR UNDER MINING COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY CALLS USO ACTUALLY SUPPORT LIKE ADDRESSING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS PUTS US IN DILEMMAS LIKE THIS. BUT THIS PROPOSAL -- PROVEN AND DATA
BACKED SOLUTIONS WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING ANOTHER CRITICAL PROGRAM OF STABLE HOMES STABLE SCHOOLS. WITH THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE INFORMATION. AND I SEE OTHERS IN QUEUE WAS GOING TO PLAN TO CALL THE QUESTION. BUT I SEE MY CO-AUTHOR WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK. AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT TH. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, ARE YOU IN QUEUE AGAIN? WAS THAT ON -- OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
JUST HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I FIRST HEARD THE BUDGET ADDRESS I THINK BACK IN RIL THAT YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT REALLY
STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE LAYING OFF ANY STAFF. AND I CAN'T SUPPORT ANY AMENDMENTS THAT POTENTIALLY LAYS
OFF STAFF. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST A QUESTION FOR MARGARET
ANDERSON-KELLIHER, I BELIEVE. THIS AMENDMENT SAYS THAT T DECREASE TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS FOR A VACANT FTE. AND I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S A VACANCY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, THERE IS NOT A
VACANCY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY HAS AN OCCUPANT IN IT. WE ARE NOT SURE IF THAT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE OR CONTEMPLATED BEFORE IT WAS FILLED. BUT IT WAS FILLED ON NO
>> WAS THAT THE PRESS SECRETARY POSITION? >> THAT'S THE INTENT OF WHAT THIS POSION IS SUPPOSED TO BE. I MEAN, AS OF LIKE LAST WEEK, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS A VACANT POSITION. BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST -- THINGS GOT LOST
SOMEWHERE, AND THAT WAS FINANCE'S UNDERSTANDING. SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A THING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT. >> OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. WHAT PREVENTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS
THIS YEAR IN 2025? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR HANSON. DIRECTOR HANSON. THE QUESTION IS WHAT PREVENTED THE IMPLEMENTATION IN 2025 OF
EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, WHO ASKED THE QUESTION? >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, MY APOLOGIES. I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WHAT PREVENTED THE IMPLEMENTATION FOR EMERGENCY
HOUSING VOUCHERS? STAFF WAS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AROUND SETTING UP. SO THE FIRST START IS TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM IS $400,000 IN THAT $1.8 MILLION
ALLOCATION TO GET SET UP FOR ONBOARDING NEW PEOPLE INTO THAT PROGRAM. WE HAD SOME LEGAL DISAGREEMENTS AROUND WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER ONBOARDING FROM THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CITY'S ATTORNEY THAT
PROLONGED THE DEBATE BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE COUNTY. AT THE TIME, THAT BROUGHT US INTO THE SUMMER. THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED TO LEARN ABOUT STABLE HOMES STABLE SCHOOLS. PUT A PAUSE ON THE CONVERSATION AND BROUGHT THAT
STABLE HOMES STABLE SCHOOLS TO THE COUNCIL WITH AN EMAILND NOTIFICATION IN SEPTEMBER. AND WE KIND OF PAUSED IT. WE WERE IN DELIBERATIONS WE HAD A
DISAGREEMENT WHAT COULD BE USED WITH THE FUNDING. AND WE LEARNED ABOUT STABLE HOMES STABLE SCHOOLS AND HAD A POLICY CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL. >> IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO GET AROUND THE LEGAL DISAGREEMENTS? FOR EXAMPLE, FUNDING THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROVIDER OF THE VOUCHERS, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY
TO GET THESE SERVICES INTO THE HANDS THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT? >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ANSWERING A LEGAL QUESTION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. >> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, MY RECOLLECTION
WAS THE REAL ISSUE WAS WHAT OUT OF THE PUBLIC PURPOSE DOCTRINE, WHAT COULD WE USE CITY FUNDS FOR AND WHAT COULD WE NOT USE CITY FUNDS FOR. THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THE PROGRAM THAT WE COULD AND OTHER THINGS. REMEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME AUTHORITIES THAT THE COUNTY DOES. THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY
AND STATUTORY AUTHORITY FROM THE STATE TO USE FUNDS FOR A MUCH BROADER PURPOSE IN THIS AREA. WE, HOWEVER, DON'T HAVE THOSE SORTS OF AUTHORITY.O THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THE PROGRAM THAT JUST DID NOT MEET THE PUBLIC PURSE GUIDELINES AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE
TO ABIDE BY USING CITY FUNDS. >> OKAY. AND TO ANY OF THE AUTHORS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THIS PARTNERSHIP FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE IF THEY HAVE BROADER LEGAL AUTHORITY AROUND THE
FINANCES? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUESTION TO ME. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, WHEN THIS BODY APPROVED THIS LAST YEAR, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO FUND YOU -- NOT FUND YOU, SEND YOU THE VERY EXTENSIVE MEMO
THAT MPHA AND THE COUNTY PROVIDED WHERE THEY LAY OUT ACTUALLY THE COST PER VOUCHER, WHAT IS INCLUDED. I BELIEVE I RECAPPED IT IN COMMENTS. BUT THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS WERE AND WHAT THE CITY SIDE ACTUALLY GETS
US. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO DIG THAT UP. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE STAFF HERE. BUT YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY FROM THEM WHAT THEY LAID OUT. >> YE, I REMEMBER IT AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MPHA ABOUT THIS AS WELL WHERE THEY EXPLAINED THE BARRIERS THEY WERE HAVING TO IMPLEMENTATION. AND
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS TIME. HOW ARE THE BARRIERS GOING TO BE OVERCOME IN ROUND TWO? >> JUST TO RESPOND ON THAT. TO ME, WE ONLY LEARNED ABOUT LEGAL BARRIERS OR ANY BARRIERS IN AUGUST, LITERALLY LIKE A WEEK
BEFORE THE MAYOR ANNOUNCED IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET THAT HE WAS CUTTINGTHIS. EVEN MPHA DID NOT KNOW BASED OFF OF THEIR CONVERSATIONS AND GOOD INTENT WITH THE CITY AND CPED, THEY WERE NOT MADE AWARE UNTIL IT WAS
ANNOUNCED IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL. SO I THINK THERE WERE LOTS OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE MPHA WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION BECAUSE WE MADE A 2025 APPROPRIATION THAT THESE DOLLARS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. THAT A FUNDING
AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED THIS YEAR. AND THAT ABRUP PUBLICATION, THEY WERE NEVER GIVEN THE HEADS UP. THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. THE POINT YOU'RE EXACTLY SAYING, WE WAN MORE
MONITORING AND REPORTING ON THIS. WE TRUSTED LAST BUDGET CYCLE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO CARRY THINGS OUT. AND WE LANDED IN THIS POSITION. SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE REGULAR UPDATES ON PROGRESS TO STAY ATTUNED AND MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. >> YEAH. THANK YOU. I GUESS I'M
LANDING ON A NO ON THIS AMENDMENT. I JUST I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE THE PATHWAY TO IMPLEMENTATION ON THE MONEY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN
FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY WE FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THIS. I KNOW WE FAILED LAST YEAR TO GET THIS MONEY OUT. THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. EMERGENCY VOUCHERS PROGRAM. AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS, YOU KNOW,
CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAPPENING ON THE BACKGROUND. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF NEGOTIATION. AND I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPROMISE HERE. COMING TOGETHER TO BE
CREATIVE OF HOW TO FUND THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT. RIGHT. WE, ESPECIALLY ME, LET ME JUST SAY MYSELF, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, YES, I HAVE A LOT OF ISSUE WITH IT. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY CUTTING THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, TAKING A LOT OF STAFF FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS A LINE THAT I DRAW. I WASN'T EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, NOT SUPPORTING THAT AT ALL. I WANT THE MAYOR TO SUCCEED. I WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO LEAD THE CITY TO MAKE SURE HE'S
LEADING THE CITY AND HE HAS ALL THE TOOLS THAT'S NECESSARY FOR HIM TO DO HIS JOB. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S REVISED. WHAT'S REVISED. WHAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED ON THE BACKGROUND. AND I THINK IT SOUNDS GREAT FOR
ME. WE'RE NOT TAKING HALF SO-CALLED OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF AT ALL HERE. WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT AT ALL. AND STAFF THAT'S
GOING THERE. AND ALSO SOMEONE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE. SO THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS. SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF IT. YOU MIGHT GET 90% OF
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. IT'S THE WAY DEMOCRACY WORKS. THE WAY WE ALL SHOULD WORK. I THINK SOMETIMES THERE ARE PROGRAMS AT ARE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CANNOT JUST LET IT GO BECAUSE WE LIKE ONE PROGRAM MORE THAN THE OTHER. AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FUNDED NEXT YEAR, IMPLEMENTED NEXT YEAR. SO THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAMS CAN GET TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE SERVICES. AND OVERALL, I THINK WE CAME FROM LONG WAY DISCUSSION LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO, LAST
WEEK OR SO OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIT NOW. THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I JUST NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT ONE
THING THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO DISCUSSION. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT HAPPENS OFTEN AND IT HAPPENED LAST BUDGET CYCLE. THIS COMMENT ABOUT DEFUNDING THE POLICE. THAT IS SO
TIRED. THAT IS SO UNNECESSARILY DEVISIVE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE SOM FACTS. THE MPD BUDGET IN 2022, $187 MILLION. IN 2023, $198 MILLION. IN 2024,
$217 MILLION. IN 2025, $229 MILLION. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? >> YES. >> HOW MUCH OF THIS YEAR'S LAST BUDGET DID MPD OVER SPEND? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION,
COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AS YOU STATED, IN 2025, THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET IS $229 MILLION. THE THIRD QUARTER FINANCIAL STATUS REPORT PROJECTS THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, MPD
WILL HAVE OVER SPENT THEIR BUDGET BY NEARLY $20 MILLION. >> THAT'S WHAT WEHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE. SO LET'S GIVE IT A BREAK. THIS IS A $1 MILLION DECREASE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS IMPORTANT. PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT. NO ONE'S DISPUTING THAT. BUT ALL OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE IMPORTANT. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULES OF ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND OUR FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND IF WE MAKE CHANGES AND
MOVE AROUND FUNDING, LIKE WE DO FOR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT, WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO STAND FOR IS THAT WE'RE SOMEHOW GOING TO TAKE THAT DECREASE, $1 MILLION OUT OF $229ILLION, AND THEN THIS OVER
SPEND, NOT EVEN COUNTING HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE USED AS A TOOL TO SCARE A COMMUNITY THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ISN'T AVAILABLE TO THEM. BECAUSE THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. AND IT'S DANGEROUS AND IT GETS US AWAY FROM OUR GOAL, WHICH IS BRINGING
OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER SO WE CAN HAVE ACCOUNTABLE, PROFESSIONAL POLICING, AND GOOD PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE POLICE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN EXIST ALL TOGETHER. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. LET ME RETURN TO MY QUEUE REALLY QUICK. NEXT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS ITEM. I WAS GOING TO -- OKAY, WELL THEN I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS QUICK. I THINK THE
IMPLEMENTATION ABOUT THIS IS POLITICAL WILL. I SEE NO BURDEN INTO IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF HOUSING PEOPLE. WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS. I THINK IT' IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO ADDRESS
HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. IT IS A CRISIS. AND I'M TIRED OF THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSING TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS THAT THIS BODY FUNDS. WE ARE NOT DONALD TRUMP. WE ARE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE ARE MINNEAPOLIS AND IT IS TIME THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION FUNDS PROGRAMS
THAT WE -- IMPLEMENTS PROGRAMS THAT WE FUND. I AM TIRED. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT VERY CLEAR. THERE IS NO REASON FOR ADMINISTRATION TO NEVER IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS THAT WE FUND. AND I AM CONCERNED THE DIRECTION THIS BUDGET IS HEADING TOWARDS.
ITOUNDS LIKE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FUND CERTAIN THINGS UNLESS COUNCIL MAKES DECISIONS WHICH IT FEELS WRONG AND IT FEELS POLITICAL AND IT FEELS LIKE SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT I'M HEARING OUT LOUD. NOW ANOTHER THING I WILL SAY IS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT -- I MEAN, I
HEAR SOME HYPOCRISY ON THIS DAIS ABOUT NEVER VOTING TO LAY OFF STAFF. BUT THEY LAID OFF STAFF. MEMBERS OF THIS BODY VOTED TO LAY OFFTAFF AND THEY FAILED. SO NEXT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> MADAM CHAIR, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE GONE AND CALLED THE QUESTION WHEN ONLY I WAS LEFT IN QUEUE TO CONTINUE SPEAKING ON PREVIOUS THINGS. WE'VE BEEN SAYING THINGS THAT CERTAINLY ASCRIBE MOTIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE
WITHOUT BEING CALLED OUT TODAY. BUT IM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD IN THIS CONVERSATION WAS THAT PEOPLE ARE TIRED, EXHAUSTED, ALL OF THESE THINGS
POLICE AND THEY'RE $20 MILLION OVER BUDGET. I DON'T MEAN TO LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG WHEN WE HEAR A FULL PRESENTATION I THINK FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE ON MONDAY. POLICE ARE EXPENSIVE. I
DON'T KNOW THE DETAIL. WE WILL LEARN THEM ON MONDAY. WE USED TO BUDGET FOR CRITICAL STAFFING OVER TIME WITH VACANCY SAVINGS. AND TO THE CHIEF'S CREDIT, TO THE CREDIT OF THE HARD WORK OF OUR MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE INCREASED STAFFING SO MUCH THAT WE NO
LONGER HAVE VACANCY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE KINDS OF OVERTIME. AND THE SECOND REASON THAT WE ARE $20 MILLION OVER BUDGET IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR IS ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT WE NEED TO FULFILL ALL OF THE REFORMS THAT WE HAVE
DONE. IT IS SOMETHING LIKE 156 HOURS PER OFFICER PER YEAR. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE NEED, UNLIKE OUR POSITIONS, IF WE NEED TO LEAVE FOR ANOTHER MEETING, IF WE HAVE TO GO TO SOMETHING, IT JUSTOESN'T GET REFILLED WITH
ANOTHER PERSON. POLICE OFFIRS NEED TO BE BACK STAFFED WITH OTHER OFFICERS. AND THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY THERE IS INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF OVERTIME AND WHY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS $20 MILLION OUT OF BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE DOING MORE
TRAINING IN A SUBSTANDARD, NOT APPROPRIATE, NOT ELEFA APPROVED TRAINING FACILITY, EVERY SINGLE DAY. EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE VACANCY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR IT ANYMORE. AND YOU WANT TO BASH POLICE OVER THE HEAD FOR DOING MORE TRAINING,
WHICH IS WHAT -- >> NO ONE SAID BASHING POLICE OVER THE HEAD. LITERALLY NOBODY HAS. >> I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE CONVERSATION TO TRY TO HOLD THE POLICE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S NOT THE FIRST OR SECOND TIME THAT
I'VE HEARD IT TODAY THAT THEY ARE $20 MILLION OVER BUDGET. WE WILL GET THOSE DETAILS ON MONDAY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, I'M EITHER GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION OR IF YOU WT TO CALL THE ROLL. >> THANK YOU. I'M NOT SEEING
ANYBODY ELSE IN QUEUE. CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> NO. >> VETAW. >> NO. >> ELLISON. >> THIS IS A LITTLE COMPLEX BUT
I'M GOING TO SAY NO ON 22C.1, AND AYE ON THE REST. >> I THINK ALL OF C. >> YOU CAN'TSEPARATE. >> OKAY. >> YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THE C. >> OH, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE C. >> SO ALL OF C. >> THEN I'LL BE A NO ON C.
>> NO ON C. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> NAY. >> JENKINS. >> NO.
>> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> NO. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE.
>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE.
>> SO 22 A AND B. NINE FOR, FOUR NAYS. 22 C -- 22 A AND B. 8
AYEs, 5 NAYS. 22 C, 7 AYES, 6 NAYS. >> DOES ANYONE NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT VOTE? I'M NOT SEEING THAT. OKAY. THAT MOTION -- ALL OF 22
PASSES. NEXT, WE'RE READY TO MOVEO AMENDMENT 23 OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. WHICH IS RELATED TO UNDERSERVED SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITIES OPIOID RESPONSE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR
AMENDMENT AND MAKE A MOTION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS AMENDMENTS FOR EVERY YEAR. AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST HELPING FOLKS TO OVERCOME THE
ADDICTION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVING SOME KIND OF RESPONSE WHERE, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS CAN GO AND REACH OUT TO THE FOLKS AND HELP THEM WITH EDUCATION,
RESOURCES, AWARENESS. AND JUST SOMETHING THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAD HOSTED MANY YEARS. AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS HOSTED A PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE WE FUND THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO TACKLE, THERE'S
SO MANY WAYS WE CAN TACKLE OPIOID. IT'S KILLING OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S EVERYWHERE. ONE OF THE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS IS ENGAGE RESIDENTS IN THEIR LOCATIONS AND CULTURAL LENSES.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HOPEFULLY, PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY. HAVING,OU KNOW, HEALTH DEPARTMENT LEAD LAST YEAR WHERE WE TESTED THIS
NEW SUBOXONE MEDICATIONS WHEN FOLKS TAKE 80% SUCCE RATE. WITH THE NEW MEDICATION, THAT IS WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS LEANING. THIS IS A WAY TO RESPOND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. I'M HOPING WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS
BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED THIS. THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WE ALWAYS DID. BUT THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE ADMINISTRATION, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THEY ARE DOING. THE WONDERFUL RK THEY'RE DOING ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M
HOPING THAT EVERYONE CAN SUPPORT. THIS WILL DEFINITELY BRING SOME KIND OF RELIEF AT LEAST. >> THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE MOVED APPROVAL? >> YES, I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> WONDERFUL. ANY DISCUSSION ON
THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I SEE AND TRUST HOW COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS USED THIS OPIOID MONEY IN THE PAST. WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHY IT SPECIFICALLY
DELINEATES ONLY SOUTH MINNEAPOLI AND NOT NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS ONE. IT JUST WASN'T THE ONES THAT RAISED TO MY ATTENTION BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS
SPECIFICALLY ELIMINATING THESE KINDS OF SAME SERVICES FOR NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. >> NOT ELIMINATE. IT'S NOT ELIMINATING. >> IT SAYS SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS IN THE MOTION. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO SOUTH
VERSUS NORTH OR UNDERSERVED VERSUS ANOTHER GROUP. THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE DONE THAT YOU HAVE VOTED FOR LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, EVERY YEAR. AND IT'S TARGETING UNDERSERVED RESIDENTS THAT WE SEE EVERY DAY THAT ARE
UNDER THE BRIDGES THAT ARE DEALING WITH OPIOID. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU CAN VOTE DOWN ON IT. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT THAT. NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, I CONTINUE TO PPORT THEM. I LOVE THEM. THEY
ARE DEFINITELY GETTING ALL THE SUPPORT THEY CAN GET FROM ME. I'M NOT SINGLING ANYBODY OUT. >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> I'M TALKING. >> IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY IN THIS MOTION, SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT
WOULD BE FOR ALL OF MINNEAPOLIS? >> I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, ON MAYBE I CAN ENLIGHTEN YOU THAT COULD HELP WITH SOME KWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION. BUT THE PHILLIPS COMMUNITY SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS IS
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC. A BIG PART OF SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY. WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS AREA IN OUR CITY HAS ACCESS TO SERVICES AND REDUCTION IN THE
OPIOID EPIDEMIC. MAKING SURE THESE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE IN MINNEAPOLIS, BUT IT IS FOCUSED IN PHILLIPS NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS SAYING. WE'RE SAYING SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS, STAFF CAN DECIDE WHERE IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. BUT WE KNOW IF YOU
LOOK AT THE DATA, THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC IS DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING FROM OUR NATIVE COMMUNITY, EAST AFRICAN COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE REST OF THEEALTH
DEPARTMENT BUDGET CAN'T GO TO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. IN FACT, IT WILL AND IT SHOULD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE SERVICES IMPACT AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NEXT RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. >> NO, THAT WAS -- >> OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING UP FOR THE NORTH SIDE.
COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN IS CORRECT. I HAVE SUPPORTED THIS AMENDMENT BY HIM. AND IT'S NOT THAT IT'S ABOUT LIKE THE SERVICES DON'T GO ON THE NORTH SIDE. I'V JUST USED OTHER WAYS OF GETTING THE SAME SORT OF RESPONSE FROM THE NORTHSIDE FOR THE NORTHSIDE.
LIKE THE TRAUMA RESPONSE GRANTS OR JUST FUNDING THROUGH OTHER STREAMS TO GET THINGS DONE ON THE NORTHSIDE. I JUST HAVEN'T CHOSE THE ROUTE OF HAVING SOMETHING EARMARKED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A
DEPARTMENTS THA ARE GOING TO THESE SERVICES THAT WE CAN USE IN THAT WAY VERSUS THIS Y. THAT'S ALL. I DON'T TAKE IT AS A NOT ON THE NORTHSIDE THING. THIS IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL STEP THAT I'M SURE THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THEY HAVE TO TAKE. BUT I
REALLY DO WISH LIKE IF A PERSON HAS A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE MEAN AND ANSWER IT. IT'S A QUESTION. SHE'S GOT QUESTIONS. SHE ASKED FOR IT. JUST SAY IT BACK, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT
THAT, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. IN THE PAST, YOU SAY NATIVE AMERICAN AND EAST AFRICAN, AND WE WERE TOLD BY DIRECTION TO MAKE IT
SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS COMMUNITY, THIS AREA. AND I WELCOME ANYONE WHO -- ANYONE TO COME WITH ME AND WITH HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMMISSIONER AND JUST REALLY SPEND A FEW HOURS WALKING AROUND
TALKING TO THE ORGANIZATIONS, SEEINGHERE PEOPLE LIVE, AND ACTUALLY WITNESSING THE CRISIS THAT WE'RE HAVING ON PHILLIPS AREA. THAT'S JUST -- IT MIGHT
CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF RAISING QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER RICHIE I THE CHAMBERS? I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP PROVIDE SOME CLARITY
ABOUT THIS. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER RICHI, CAN YOU COME UP. IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE CONTEXT AS TO HOW THIS AMENDMENT CAME TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. I KNOW THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN. IF YOU WANT TO START WITH WHAT WAS THE
INITIAL POT OF FUNDING THE FIRST TIME THAT WAS PROPOSED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT TO THE VERY FIRST TIME. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. HEIDI RICHIE.
I'M THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH. SO THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT. IT'S BEEN AN EARMARK OF $150,000. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LANGUAGE FROM THE FIRST TIME. BUT IT WAS SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND I BELIEVE SOME
DEMOGRAPHIC DESCRIPTORS. THE SECOND TIME SAME THING WITH SOME DEMOGRAPHIC DESCRIPTORS. AND NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD. I WILL POINT OUT THAT SINCE THIS IS OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE PUT OOING EARMARKS. WE REALLY DO NEED TO SEE IT COME
BACK EVERY YEAR. AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING WITH THIS ONE THIS TIME AROUND AS WELL. >> WONDERFUL. AND I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I HAVE -- I CAN'T REMBER IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE
HISTORY OF THIS AMENDMENT. BUT AM I REMEMBERING CORRECTLY THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN PART OF THE USE OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET WAS TO -- IT WAS ON OPIOID
RESPONSE IN GENERAL, AND OF THAT CHUNK OF MONEY THAT YEAR COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN WANTED TO EARMARK JUST A CHUNK OF IT TO COME TO SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS AND THEN THAT KIND OF HAS CONTINUED OVER AND OVER. IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY OF
THE MATTER? AND CAN YOU ALSO JUST SPEAK TO THE GEOGRAPHY O THE CITY AND WHETHER WE ARE EQUITAY SPENDING OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS IN THE PARTS
OF THE CY THAT WHERE IT IS NEEDED. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, MBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS EARMARK CAME ABOUT WAS WHEN THE MAYOR ALLOCATED. I'M NOT GOING TO GET THE NUMBER RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT WAS
SOMEWHERE AROUND $465,000 TO GO OUT INTO COMMUNITY. AT THAT TIME, WHAT WE DID WAS AN RFP. WE SPT IT UP AND WE ENDED UP DOING AN RFP THAT WAS MORE YOUTH EVENTION FOCUSED, AND ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS MORE CULTURAL COMMUNITY FOCUSED. SO THAT WAS
THAT FIRST ROUND. AND IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS. I CAN SPEAK TO WHERE WE SEE DISPROPORTIONAL IMPACTS IN TERMS OF POPULATION. SO OUR EAST AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY, OUR LATINX COMMUNITY, AND OUR AMERICAN INDIAN COMMUNITY. NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER. BUT THOSE ARE FOUR COMMUNITIES WHERE WE SEE THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS WITH
AMERICANNDIAN BEING AT THE TOP. I CAN'T SAY HOW THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS PLAY OUT IN OUR GEOGRAPHY. THE MOBILE UNIT IS THE LARGEST POT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE COMING FROM THE SETTLEMENT FUND. WE HAVE BEEN VERY DELIBERATE IN MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES ON THE NORTHSIDE AND ON THE SOUTHSIDE PRETTY MUCH EQUALLY AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> THANK Y VERY MUCH. >> YUP. >> NEXT, I'M GOING TO RETURN BACK TO QUEUE. NEXT, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE
COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. OH, YOU'RE GOOD. >> I JUST WANT TO ADD MYSELF AS AN AUTHOR AND THAT'S IT. >> WONDERFUL. CLERKS, IF WE CAN NOTE THAT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> ELLISON. >> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE.
>> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 13 AYES. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP AMENDMENT 24 OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. IS RELATED TO
AUTISM AND WATER SAFETY PUBLIC HEALTH AWARENESS PROGRAM. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> S, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COLLEAGUES, YOU HAVE SEEN ME COME AND PASS A RESOLUTION HERE. ALL OF US PASS A RESOLUTION
TRNG TO REALLY SAVE KIDS WITH AUTISM. WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LOCAL NEWS AND WHERE KIDS ARE DYING IN 10,000 LAKES THAT WE HAVE AND PONDS. THIS IS JUST
BASICALLY A PROGRAM WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE REACHING OUT COMMUNITIES AND MAKING SURE WE ARE DEVELOPING WATER SAFETY EDUCATION MATERIAL. FOR EXAMPLE,
ONE OF THE MATERIAL EDUCATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS HAVE SOME KIND OF WAY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A LOCK ON THEIR DOOR SO THE KID DOESN'T RUN AND GET IN THE WATER. SO IT'S VERY SMALL
AMOU OF MONEY AND IT'S JUST REALLY WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DO PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION WITHIN THE WATER SAFETYITH KIDS WITH AUTISM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN'S MOTION? >> SECOND.
>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> ELLISON.
>> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PAISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 13 AYES.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS AMENDMENT 25. WHICH IS LABOR STANDARDS CO-ENFORCEMENT FUNDING. THERE IS A REVISED PACKET ON THIS FOR YOU THAT
SHOULD BE -- THIS ONE'S REVISED, RIGHT? OKAY. SO THIS ONE IS OFFERED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBERS CASHMAN, CHOWDHURY, AND KOSKI.
PRESIDENT PAYNE, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDT CHUGHTAI. I'VE BASICALLY BEEN TRYING TO SECURE SUSTAINABLE ONGOING FUNDING FOR
CO-ENFORCEMENT SINCE MY FIRST YEAR. MY FIRST YEAR IT WAS FUNDED BY ARPA. THE SECOND YEAR KIND OF THE SAME STORY BUT WE DID A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO FIND SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCES
AND STILL FUNDED IT ONE TIME. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, THROUGH THAT LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE DID AS MUCH DUE DILIGENCE AS Y POSSIBLY COULD BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ADMINISTRATION DID BRING FORWARD A FUNDING SOLUTION. SO WE BROUGHT A
FUNDING SOLUTION FORWARD LAST YEAR THAT SECURED SUSTAINABLE ONGOING FUNDING. AND THEN THIS YEAR, THE MAYOR CUT THAT FUNDING PRETTY PROFOUNDLY. SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISE THAT WE GAVE TO WORKERS
FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE SUSTAINABLE ONGOING FUNDING. SO WE WORKED VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS TO IDENTIFY SOURCING. LARGELY
SOURCES THAT ARE ONGOING SUSTAINABLE. BUT THERE IS A ONE-TIME SOURCE THAT'S IN HERE THAT GETS US TO THE FULL FUNDING AMOUNT THAT WE WILL HAVE TO REVISIT NEXT YEAR. SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMPROMISE IMBEDDED IN THIS SOLUTION. SO I HOPE I CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT. >> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. COLLEAGUES, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO I THINK THIS IS T ONE WITH THE RED STAMP AT THE TOP IS THE CORRECT ONE, RIGHT? SO THIS I SAYING
THAT WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE THE SCHOOL DAYS CLINIC'S BUDGET BY $70,000. WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT BY $77,000. DECREASE THE BUDGET FOR PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT BY
$200,000. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT DO THESE THREE DEPARTMENTS, LIKE SCHOOL DAYS CLINICS. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT $70,000 DOES. I KNOW THAT'S NOT EVEN A REALLY BIG
BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH WITH SCHOOL DAYS CLINICS. IAKE THOSE VISITS IN SCHOOLS AS OFTEN AS I CAN AND THEY NEED MORE. SO TO SEE $70,000 BEING TAKEN FROM SCHOOL BASED CLINICS. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THESE DECREASES MEAN FOR
THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, PLEASE? >> YEAH. SO THESE DECREASES, THE THE SOURCES IDENTIFIED THAT YOU'RE -- OR THE TWO SOURCES THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT. >> NO, THREE. >> HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT. >> UH-HUH. AND THE CLERK'S
OFFICE. >> AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE. SO I'M GOING TO INVITE UP -- OKAY. THIS WAS THE PRODUCT OF THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. I'M GOING TO
HAVE DIRECTOR DISCENZA SPEAK TO THE IMPACT ON HEALTH AND PERFORMAE MANAGEMENT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE CLERK TO SPEAK ABOUT LEDGE DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, THE SCHOOL BASED CLINICS ALSO HAVE A REVENUE
SOURCE PATIENT RENUE WHICH THEY'RE STILL SPENDING DOWN SOME PRIOR YEARS. SO THEY COULD SHIFT TO EXISTING POT OF MONEY. THEY'RE STILL SPENDING I THINK $2,
$2,0 -- 2021-DOLLARS FROM THAT SOURCE. FOR PMI, THIS IS THEIR NON-PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AMOUNT TO I THINK ABOUT20,000 WOULD BE REMAINING IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE.
>> OKAY. SO WITH $200,000 GOING OUT OF PMI, THIS IS ONLY GOING TO REALLY BE A $20,000 IMPACT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> NO. IT WOULD BE A $200,000 CUT ONGOING. BUT IT WOULD LEAVE REMAINING ABOUT $20,000.
>> ABOUT $20,000. I GOT IT. I'M >> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE COO SPEAK TO WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE. >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT GOING FROM $220,000 DOWN TO $20,000 WOULD BE AN ALARMING THING TO HEAR. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI,
AND COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. THIS WAS ACTUALLY -- >> VETAW. >> WHOO! >> Y'ALL ARE SO MESSY. >> I AM MESSY. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT WAS SO MESSY. OKAY. COME
ON. COME ON, SARAY. >> SO PMI ACTUALLY OFFERED THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ON USING THIS BUT IT IS ONGOING MONEY AND THEY FEEL THEY CAN
HANDLE THIS LEVEL OF REDUCTION. IT ALSO SOLVES THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE GOING FORWARD. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY CHAIR CHUGHTAI WAS ALSO VERY GENEROUS IN HELPING TO
OFFER UP PART OF THIS GAP THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THATS HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN THERE. THE OTHER THING IS WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT $70,000 THAT
IS THE ONE-TIME FUNDING MOVING BACK TOWARDS MORE ONGOING FUNDING IN THE '27 BUDGET. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK TOWARDS. >> OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE GIFT OF THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT?
>> THEN WE'LL GO TO -- SO, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW'S REFERENCING ITEM 2, 77,040 REDUCTION TO THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT. MR. CLERK, IF YOU
COULD JUST TELL US HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. THERE IS A CORRECTION I NEED TO NOTE ON HERE. I GAVE YOU INCORRECT NUMBERS. THE COUNCIL VICE PRESENT ASKED IF OUR DEPARTMENT COULD COME TO THE TABLE AND OFFER TO FILL SOME GAPS AND WE WERE HAPPY TO DO
THAT. I GAVE YOU THE NUMBER SHOWN ON THE PRINTED COPY. IT SHLD BE REPLACED BY 2600114. HERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOUT OUT CORPORATION THAT WAS BROUGHT BY OUR BUDGET ANALYST WHO HAS BEEN WATCHING ALL DAY
LONG. -- TO CORRECT THAT, THAT COMES OUT OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE GENERAL FROM OUR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. SO WE'RE REPLACING JUST SO YOU KNOW,HAT WAS FROM ELECTIONS. WE DON'T WANT TO CUT
FROM ELECTIONS. WE FEEL REAL CONFIDENT WE CAN COVER THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> AS THE CLERK NOTED, I DID ASK HIM TO MAKE COME TO THE TABLE SO WE CAN HELP MAKE THIS AMENDMENT WORK. WHO IS NEXT? I WILL
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU SO CH, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. AND JUST REALLY THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRION FOR WORKING ON NEGOTIATING THIS. AND FIGURING THIS OUT. IT'S SO MEANINGFUL TO ME. THERE'S A LOT
OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT HERE. BUT I THINK THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ME. THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY HARD TO SEE THE CUTS THAT WE SAW TO LABOR STANDARDS
CO-ENFORCEMENT. AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO LIFT UP THE WORK THAT REAL PEOPLE IN OUR CITY ARE DOING T MAKE SURE THAT LOW WAGE WORKERS ARE NOT BEING TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF AND FEEL LIKE WHEN THEY HAVE NO ONE TO GO TO, THERE IS A PLACE TO GO TO. AND IT'S A WAY THAT PAYS OFF IN A WAY THAT IS JUST MULTIPLIED. BECAUSE THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WORK THAT
THEY'RE DOING WITH SERVERS, WITH JAN JAN JANITORS, WITH CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG, WHEN THEY SEE
SOMEONE EXPERIENCING WAGE THEFT THAT IS LEAVING LESS MONEY FOR THEIR KIDS, FOR FOOD, FOR HEALTH CARE, THEY CAN TEACH THEM TOO. THEY CAN EDUCATE THEM TOO. AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING THAT WE DO AS A CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND
WE'RE LEADING. IN A MOMENT WHERE SO MUCH IS BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM WORKING PEOPLE. AND I ALSO WANT CONTRACT THAT WAS MADE FOR CO-ENFORCEMENT, OUR PARTNERS IN
CO-ENFORCEMENT BUILT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY NEVER HAD TO DO BEFORE SO THEY COULD ADEQUATELY REPORT TO THE CITY EVEN BETTER HOW THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME ON EDUCATION, ON NAVIGATION SERVICES. AND IN A SIX-MONTH
PERIOD, THEY HAVE DONE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF WORK. THEY HAVE RETRAINED THEIR STAFF. THEY HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO REPORT. AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE ARE NOT CUTTINGHIS DOWN. IF WE SEE A
FUTURE CUT TO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND HAVE A FIG ON THIS. THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND. THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. CO-ENFORCEMENT IS SO, SO IMPORTANT. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE EVEN BETTER METRICS TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR PARTNERS ON THIS.
AND I HOPE THAT THERE ARE NO FUTURE CUTS IN COMING YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STRONGEST WAGE THEFT PROTECTION LAWS FOR A REASON. AND WE HAVE TO BEBLE TO ENFORCE THEM SO THEY COUNT FOR PEOPLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NEXT RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ONLY HAVE THREE INSPECTORS ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS SIDE FOR ALL OF THIS CO-ENFORCEMENT WORK. THE EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT, BUT IN
TERMS OF ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO MOVE THESE THINGS THROUGH AND GET PEOPLE JUSTICE FOR FRANKLY BEING SCREWED OUT OF CHECKS AND THINGS, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO BALANCE THAT. I'M REALLY NOT
HAPPY WITH THE CUTS THAT ARE IN HERE. BUT I REALLY RESPECT THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN MANY PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS RELUCTANTLY FOR THE CUTS, BUT HAPPY FOR THE COLLABORATION. SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> ELLISON. >> AYE. >> OSMAN. >> AYE. >> CASHMAN. >> AYE.
>> JENKINS. >> AYE. >> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> 13 AY. >> THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE ARE NOW AT EXACTLY THE 10-MINUTE MARK
BEFORE WE HAVE TO STOP. SO I'M GOING TO DO LIKE A LOOK AROUND THE ROOM BECAUSE I WANT TO GET A QUICK TEMPERATURE ECK. ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE -- WHO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS OR WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH IS STREET
VENDORS? I'M NOT SEEING, NO HEAD NODS ON THIS SIDE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP STRT VENDORS. OKAY. AMENDMENT 25 -- OR 26 OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAVEZ AND CHOWDHURY. COUNCIL
MEMBER CHAVEZ, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AMENDMENT AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY AND I ARE BRINGING FORWARD THE STREET VENDOR PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE CONTINUED TO ENSURE THAT OUR STREET VENDORS GET INTO COMPLIANCE WITH
OUR CITY CODES AND ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO CLASSES TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO PERMITS. WE HAVE SEEN THE PROPOSAL FROM LAST YEAR WHERE A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WERE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR CLASSES.ANY OF THEM WERE ABLE TO PASS. AND THAT WAS A REALLY
POSITIVE MOMTUM FOR OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO STREET VENDING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM FOR THE YEAR TO COME BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY STREET VENDORS WHO SAID THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TAKING CLASSES BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCESS
THEM. SOME DIDN'T PASS. WE ALSO ARE MOVING IT INTO THE COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. I WOULD JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> IS TRE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOR DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH MONEY -- >> , YOUR MIC GOT TURNED OFF. >> SORRY. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH MONEY YOU USED IN THE LAST BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS PROGRAM. >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT WAS $150,000. WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE PARTNERED
WITH, THEY TOLD US THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH AND THEY HAD TO STOP SOME OF THE CLASSES. SOE DON'T WANT THAT PROBLEM TO HAPPEN THIS TIME AROUND. WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO ADEQUATE CLASSES. >> DO YOU REMEMBER WHO THE PARTNERING ORGIZATIONS WERE?
>> -- >> OH, SO THIS WAS SOUTHSIDE. >> MAYBE WE CAN GET -- >> HEALTHY ROOTS, RIGHT? >> HEALTHY ROOTS. >> GOT IT. >> THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO DO AN RFP SEPARATE PROCESS AGAIN.
BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDING WAS NOT ENOUGH TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OTHER CLASSES. WE ALSO REVISED AMENDMENT TO SAY ORGANIZATIONS. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED WH THE PROGRAM IS WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE CULTURAL COMPETENT PART WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO
SPEAK IN SPANISH. THE PROPOSALS ITTEN COULD BE SERVED WITH TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WAY THEY COULD BE A BETTER PARTNERSHIP, SOMEONE TO TAKE THE CLASSES AND HOW WE CAN DO TRANSLATION A LITTLE BIT BETTER. >> I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING THIS A CITY
WIDE THING. PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A SOUTHSIDE ONLY INITIATIVE AND THAT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO LAKE STREET. SO I THINK JUST AS A CITY AND DEPARTMENTS, WE NEED TO DO BETTER AT -- BECAUSE WE HAVE VENDORS ON THE NORTHSIDE TOO. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS. SO I WOULD
JUST LIKE US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE IT CULTURAL COMPETENT. BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SILOED INTO ONE PART OF THE CITY. >> THIS IS IN NO WAY TO SAY IT'S IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. RFP
PROCESS WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE TO SHARE THAT WHEN IT IS MADE PUBLIC. IT'S NOT JUST ONE ORGANIZATION. IT'S ORGANIZATIONS. WOULD LOVE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS IN NORTHSIDE AND OTHER SIDES OF OUR CITY. >> YEAH,OR SURE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I WILL BE BRIEF. JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO MY COLLEAGUES, WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF SUCCESS. WE HAD MANY FOOD VENDORS COME
AND TAKE THE CLASSES. SOME HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETAKE THEM IF THEY DIDN'T PASS. MANY PASSED. RIGHT. THEY GOT THE CERTIFICATION THEY NEEDED AND T ENTERED INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THAT WAS ONE OF TRUST AND THAT COULD LEAD
TO THEIR SUCCESS AS ENTREPRENEURS. AND EVEN ONE FOOD VENDOR AFTER THE CLASS WAS ABLE TO ACCESS A FOOD TRUCK. SO THAT'S PROGRESS JUST IN ONE YEAR. SO I THANK EVERYONE NOT ONLY FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT YOUR SUPPORT IN THE ORDINANCE CHANGE
THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND I WORKED ON. THE FEE CHANGE. AND FUTURE SUPPORT. SO WE CAN KEEP ON DOING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK FOR FOOD VENDORS ACROSS THE CITY. >> THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK
TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> AYE. >> WONSLEY. >> AYE. >> RAINVILLE. >> AYE. >> VETAW. >> AYE. >> ELLISON. >> AYE. >> OSMAN IS ABSENT. CASHMAN. >> AYE. >> JENKINS. >> AYE.
>> CHAVEZ. >> AYE. >> CHOWDHURY. >> AYE. >> PALMISANO. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> AYE. >> CHAIR CHUGHTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT IS 12 AYES. >> THAT MION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR VOTE REFLECTED ON IS?
>> YES, AYE, PLEASE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. OH, I DON'T KNOW IF I REMEMBERED TO MENTION THIS BUT ON THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT, CO-ENFO CO-ENFORCEMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN WANTED TO BE INCLUDED AS
AN AUTHOR. OKAY. WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH 25 AMENDMENTS TODAY. AND THAT IS SO MUCH MORE PROGRESS THAN WE MADE ON THE FIRST DAY OF MA-UP LAST YEAR. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING A PART OF MAKING THAT
HAPPEN. WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO ADJOURN TODAY'S MEETING. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 8TH AT 1:30 P.M. OUR AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING WILL INCLUDE THE CONTINUATION OF OUR WORK ON THE
2026 BUDGET. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. VE A GOOD NIGHT.