Good afternoon. I call to order the April 22nd, 2025, regular meeting of the Minneapolis heritage preservation commission. F the record my name is Kelly Mastin and I serve as vice-chair othe commission. Just a reminder to silence you
smart phones and speak clearly into the microphone when speaking at theias or into the microphone giving testimony. Would the clerk please call the roll so that we may
verify the presentatiocef a quo. (Roll call.)
>> There are 8 members present. Let the record reflect that we do have quorum and that Chair Bjornberg and Commissioner Karato' absence is excused. Our first order of business is to adopt the agenda
for this meeting. We will work from the agendas that are available by the clerk. I will go through the agenda and sort out which items will be discussed and which items would be put on the consent agenda to be approved as recommended by staff and without further discussion.
Item No. is addresses at the Glendale townhou historic district ward 2 which has been continued from the April 8th, 2025 meetg. This application is for a local designation. Item No. 4 will be discussed. Item No. 5
is for 275 market street and 810 Glenwood anue ward 5. This application is for a certificate appropriateness in. . Item No. 5 will be on the consent agenda unless someone wants to speak in on that
decision to or modify the staff recommendation. Item No. Is 88 17th street northward 7. This application is for -- (Inaudible.) >> Opposition to or modify the staff recommendation? This is
the proposed agenda. The consent items will include Item No. 5, 275 market street, 810 Glenwood Avenue South -- or avenue ward 5 and Item No. 6, 8 17th street
northward 7 and Item No. No. 4 will be continued for discussion. Is there any on that decision from commissione to the staff recommendations for these items? Is there anyone in the public who wishes to speak in on
that decision to these items? Hearing no on that decision I'm placing these items on consent. We will approve these consent items in one motn at the start of the meeting. The following item will have staff presentation, public comment and commission discussion and action. Item No. 4 is addresses at glen
daily historic district ward 2 which has been continu from the April 8th, 2025 meeting. May have a motion to approve agenda. >> Herr moves. >> Thank you Commissioner Herr
hair. Is there a second. Wallace second. >> Thank you Commissioner Wallace. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed say nay. Any
abstentions? The agea is approved. Our next orderf business will be to approve the minutes from our April 8th, 2025 meeting. May have a motion to approve those minutes? >> Mellblom moves approval.
>> Thank you Commissioner Mellblom. Do I have a second. >> Wallace seconds. >> Thank you Commissner Wallace. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed say nay. Any abstentions including
any commissioners who are ability? -- absent. >> Herr abstains. >> Thank you, Comssioner Herr hair. The minutes are aroved. Let me summarize the process for conducting the public hearing.
First we will act on the consent agenda we just said. Once items on the consent agenda are approved -- I'm sorry. (Laugh.) >> I'm just a little nervous. The commission is done one of those items. Applicants may ntact the planning staff tomorrow about next steps.
After the consent agenda items are approved, we will take each remaining agenda ite in order, planning staff will present its report to coissioners and commissioners may ask questions of staff. Then I will open the public hearing and we will hear from the applicant and commissioners may ask questions of the
applicant. After that, we will invite public comment. If you wish to speak, we need you to do two things. One, please be sure to signp on the sheet over by the clerk. If you haven't done this already you can do so afterwards. When you come up to
testify, you must state your name and address for the record. Please keep your comments specific to the application before us today. If you have materials to hand out, please give them to our committee clerk so that they can be distributed to the commission and entered into the record. Do not approach the
commander -- the commissioners on the dais. And I will complete the hearing and commissioners will act on applications before us. So let's move on to the consent agenda. I will now open the public hearing for consent
agenda items. Again they are Itemo. 5, 275 market street and 810 Glenwood avenue ward 5 and Item No. 6, 8817th street light northward 7. Do we have
any commissions opposed to the staff recommendations? Are there any members of the public who oppose the staff recommendations for these items? Seeing none, I will now close the public hearing on the consent items. May I have a motion to approve the staff
findings and recommendations for these items? >> Alexander moves. >> Thank you, Commissioner Alexander. Is there a second. >> Mellblom seconds. >> Thank you, Commissioner Mellblom. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor
say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed say nay. Any abstentions? These items are approved as recommended by staff on the agenda. Applicants may contact
planning staff about next steps. So we'll now move on to Item No. 4 which was address at glen Glen historic district ward 2 which has been continued from the April 8th, 2025
meeting. This application is for local designation. The staff report was presented by Mr. Skalecki at the April 8th meeting. And I will now continue the public hearing for this item. I understand the applicant -- Council Member Wonsley is here and would like
to speak. Please come to the microphone and state your name and address for the record. >> Thank you all, commissioners for having me today. I am Commissioner Robin Wonsley I represent ward 2. I currently
am -- I believe I have a protective clause on my address due to a bomb teat a few years ago so I will not be sharing that address but that said, I do have a few comments to share with you all so first, members of the commission, again, thank
you for having me. Once again, I represent ward 2 on the Minnealis city council which includes prospect park where Glendale town homes is located
and I nominated Glendale town homes for historic designation last yr and I'm grateful for the opportunity to come before you again today to offer some brief comments and to askou once again, to recommend Glendale town homes for histoc designation. You've heard from many residents from Glendale about
why they believe that Glendale meets the criteria for historic designation and I want to uplift these lived experiences from the decades of residents who have called Glendale home. Dozens of current and past Glendale residents, neighbors and
individuals from all across the city have submitted public comment underscoring the cultural and historic value of Glendale as the city's oldest Section 9 public housing as the city's only town homestyle style
public housing and as-style public housing and as and who has a unique access over the years and you've heard from many earmarks affirming tha Glendale
meets the criteria for a designation. Now, the narrow tiby the Minneapolis public housing authority that the application for historic designation is based in racism specifically by prospect park residents is not only just completely fse but
most importantly it's not relevant to the matter that is before you all today which is whether or not Glendale meets the criteria for historic designation, which it clearly does. Thelaim that historic designation is somehow motivated by racism is also inconsistent
with the fact that historic designation is a tl that historically has been used to protect and preserve properts that are associated with wealth and whiteness and a quick review of t map of historic landmarks in districts in the city
immediately shows that there are mostly concentrated downtown and in southwest Minneapolis and 's no coincidence that the historic status of these landmark overlaps with the wealthiest and whitiest areas but we also know that those
areas aren't the only areas with landmarks that actually meet the historic designation criteria and Glenlen is a perfect example of that. And uplifting the significance of landmarks in districts with histories that
explicitly relate to working class and low income residents, residents of cor and public housing residents is part of how we move towards historic designation being a more equitable tool that preserves all of our history, which is even more important in our
national landscape where we have a federal administration that i stories and physical representations of black and brown communities and their respective histories. So on that note I want to
uplift the prospective that Commissioner Mellblom shared at the HBC meeting last year how he approached ts vote and planned to vote in on that decision believing the alterations that have been made to Glendale specifically the buildings would
had squalified them from historic designation but through engagement with the cultural and social history of Glendale as well as leaning into the questions around bias and historic preservation, he
arrives at the pin of supporting preservation. If Commissioner Mellblom ended his vote with the comment saying once these buildings are gone, even in their compromised state, we will never have the historic
memorial to a set of ideas that was put forth by mayor Humphrey to help the people who are LESS BECOME STRONGER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'LL CONCLUDE WITH SAYING THAT THE HPC AND 2021
FOUND THAT GLENDALE TOWN HOMES MET THE CRITERIA OF HISTORIC DESIGNATION, AND SO DID THI BODY IN THE FALL OF 2024. SO IT'S WITH THIS SPIRIT THAT I URGE YOU ALL TO CONTINUE YOUR
RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR GLENDALE TOWN HOMES TODAY. AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TO SHARE SOME COMMENTS WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY SO YOU THINK YOU CAN RETURN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I'M A LITTLE TOO EARLY. (LAUGH.) >> OKAY. SO WE'LL NOW CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WHICH BEGAN AT THE APRIL 8TH MEETING. IF YOU SPOKE ON APRIL 8TH,
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING AGAIN. I WILL ASK AGAIN THAT WE LIT COMMENTS TO 2 MINUTES AND THAT YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE TO PROVIDE NEW INFORMATION. DO WE HAVE AN INTERPRETER?
OKAY. I KNOW ONE HAS -- APOLOGIES, CHAIR. I'VE BEEN CONTACT WITHEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY RELATIONS WHO WE REQUESTED AN INTERPRETER THROUGH BUT THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MISCOMMUNICATION SO WE HAVE NOT PERSONALLY BEEN CONTACTED BY
THEM,UT IF THEY'RE HERE WE'D LOVE TO TALK TO THEM. >> SO IF YOU ARE USING AN INTERPRETER, YOU'LL HAVE 4 MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP ON APRIL 8TH BUT WAS UNABLE TO SPEAK DURING THE TIME LIMITS DURING THAT DAY AND AFTER THAT
WE'LLOVE ON TO THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TODAY. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH THAT LIST. IS UMI HERE? SHE ALREADY SPOKE? OKAY.
IS EDWARD BARBER HERE? SHALE JAMA. OKAY. SO PLEASE STEPORWARD AND STATE
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU ALL OF YOU MY NAME AND I'M FROM THE DELAWARE AREA IN MINNEAPOLIS. >> YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.
>> HE'S FROM GLENDALE, 128TH AND DELAWARE AND HIS NAME IS JAMA. >> THANK YOU ALL. WE ARE AFRAID
OF BEING DISPLACED. WE DON'T WANT TO BE DISPLACED. WE ARE LOW-INCOME PEOPLE. THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR US TO GO WHERE WE'RE
GOING. THERE NOTHING THAT IS PROVEN OR DOCUMENTED AND WE HAVE IDEA WHERE THEY WANT TO TAKE US.
WE ALSO -- THEY ALSO WANT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING AND TRY TO WHAT I'M AFRAID OF ALSO. WHEN
THEY WANT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING. WE HAVEEVERYTHING. WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS, WE HAVE THE HOSPITALS. EVERYTHING IS NEAR US AND WE CANNOT MOV ANYWHERE
FAR, FAR AWAY. WE DOT WANT THE HISTORY OF GLENDALE TO BE BASICALLY
ERASED. I LIVED IN ENGLAND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. THEY CAN FIX INSIDE REPAIRS TO THE HOMES WHILE WE ARE IN THE HOMES.
WE ARE -- WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP AND WE ARE ALSO ASK OF YOU TO SUPPORT US. WE THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMES.
IS SAMIRA ABDI HERE? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> OKAY, HI MY NAME IS SAMIRA ABDI. CURRENTLY I'M LIVING IN THE CENTRAL AVENUE LOFTS ON 24TH
AND CENTRAL. OKAY. LET ME GET STARTED. (LAUGH.) >> GIVE ME A SEC. OKAY. SO MY NAME IS SAMIRA, AND I'M A FORMER RESIDENT OF GLENDALE. I STILL VISIT 'CAUSE MY FRIENDS AND
FAMILY LIVE THERE SO I'M STILL VERY MUCH A RIGHT PAST THE COMMUNITY BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS -- SORRY. I'M VERY GRA GLENDALE BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCES THAT I HAD, YOU
KNOW, CULTURE NOT JUST SOMALI CULTURE BUT LIKE -- IT WAS A MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY SO I GOT TO EXPERIENCE OTHER CULTURES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY D CULTURAL EVENTS AND I GOT TO BE A PART OF THAT AND MAKE FRIENDS WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
SO I THINK TO ME WHAT I REMEMBER THE MOST IS THE COMMUNITY AND THE CULTURAL EVENTS AND THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PASSIONATE OF GLENDALE TO ME WAS THE CULTURAL HISTORY AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO BE PRESERVED IF WE GET HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. IS NATASHA REEVES HERE? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME A ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> HELLO.
MY NAME NATASHA REEVES. AND I AM A PROUD RESIDENT AT THE GLENDALES. I'M ON THE SUDDEN BURY SIDE. THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AND POSITIVE CHANGE FOR MY DAUGHTER AND ME. WE MOVED FROM ST. PAUL TO
MINNEAPOLIS, NOT TOO LONG AGO. I HAVEN'T BEEN BORN IN CCAGO AND RAISED IN ST. PAUL, HUSBAND AND OPPORTUNITY THAT I AM GRATEFUL FOR. GLENDALE HAS BEEN A CRITICAL STEPPING-STONE FOR ME
MY BIGGEST DREAM IS TO BE A HOMEOWNER. I WOULD BE THE FIRST HOMEOWNER GENERATIONAL LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN. WHILE WORKING IN GLENDALE PROVIDES SECURITY THAT I VALUE. MY DAUGHTER CAN SAFELY
PLAY IN THE OPEN PLAYGROUND AND WE BOTH BENEFIT FROM THE CONNECTION WITH THEEIGHBORS AND THE RECREATION CENTER. THIS KIND OF ENVIRONMENT I AM GRATEFUL TO PROVIDE TO HER. THAT'S WHY I AM COMMITTED TO SHAPING GLENDALE FOR THE FUTURE
FAMILIES. I WANT FUTURE GENERATIONS TO EXPERIENCE THIS SAME SENSE OF BELONGING AND OPPORTUNITY. WHILE CHANGE CAN BE UNSETTLING, SCARY AND AS MANY OF
US FEEL ARED, WHICH I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE VERY SCARED OF THIS HUGE CHANGE, I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND: I AM STILL FACING THE FEVER CHANGE THAT I'M LIVING IN TODAY. I WON'T EVEN CHANGE MY RESIDENTIAL ID BECAU I'M SCARED TO BE A MINNESOTA
RESIDENT OR A MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENT, I'M SORRY. IT'S SCARY BUT GLENDALE DESERVES THIS. GLENDALE DESERVES ALL THE NEW CHANGES THAT I SEEROUND THEM. I FEEL THAT THE EXAMPLES
OF SUCCESSFUL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND SEEING THE HAPPY ENDINGS SEEINGAMILIES COME BACK TO THEIR HOMES I FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TOMORROW SO I DO VOTE NO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AND I DO HAVE AN
UPDATE. WE DO HAVE THE TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE. THERE ARE TWO TRANSLATORS ONE WILL BE IN THE ADJNING ROOM TO PROVIDE, I THINK, ENGLISH TO SOMALI AND THERE WILL BELSO A TRANSLATOR AVAILABLE AT THE PODIUM IF NECESSARY. SO THAT'S
THAT STATUS. THANK YOU, NATASHA FOR YOUR COMMEN. IS ABDUL-MALIK HASAN HERE? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRE
FOR THE RECORD. >> TESTING. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ABDUL MALIK HASAN I'M REPRESENTING MY MOM COMING FROM SAINT MARY AVENUE MY MOM LIVED IN GLENDALE FOR THE
PAST 5 YEARS AND RECENTLY MY MOM WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CIAT CAME AND SINCE -- SATICA AND SINCE THE NEW YEAR SHE HAS SUFFEREDERVE PINCHING TWICE AND WASN'T ABLE TO MOVE UNTIL WE TOOK HER TO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM. SHE THEN STAYED WITH MY SISTER UNT SHE FELT BETTER BECAUSE HER APARTMENT HAD ELEVATOR. MY MOM WISHES TO STAY A CONTINUE TO LIVE IN GLENDALE FOR
THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. THE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OFFERS AN OPPORTUNY TO RESIDE WITHOUT SUFFERING TO GO UP AND DOWN TO YOUR BEDROOM AND DO BASIC THINGS WITHOUT -- WITHOUT NEEDING HELP.
THE CHANCE TO HAVE YOUR BN AND ALL -- AND ALL OF THEM IN THE SAME LEVEL IS A RELIEF FOR HER AND OTHERS LIKE HER. SHE WOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT FLOODING BASEMENT, RUINING
THINGS EVERY TIME IT RAINS HEAVY. A SOUNDPROOF WALL SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO HEAR HER NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY'RE WALKING UP THEIR STAIRS OR COMING DOWN FROM THEIR STAIRS. SCANTILY HEARING LOUD CONSTRUCTION NOISE, ROAD NOISE,
CARS THAT HAVE BEEPING PROBLEMS. DESIGNATING GLENDALE AS A HISTORICAL SITE DOES NOT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITYISTORY AND CULTURE ARE CARRIED BY THE PEOPLE NOT THE PLACE. POLICIES AND -- POLICIES TO PRESERVE THOSE HISTORIES AND CULTURES
SHOULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF THAT CULTURE. NOT A PLACE THAT IS TURNED INTO A MUSEUM FOR TOURISTS TO VISIT. SHE WANTS TO -- WHAT SHE WANTS -- WHAT SHE WANTS TO ASK
FOR IS A PROTECTION TO BE PLACED SO THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT DISPLACED OR PRIVATION OF THE RENT THAT MIGHT INCREASE. MPHA DURING THE LAST HEARING DID PROMISE THOSE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TODAY. KIYANA VANG. PLEASE STATED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD -- PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS KEIS ANA VANG AND I'M ON THE POLICY AND STRATEGIC INITIAVES TEAM AT MPHA AND OUR DEPARTMENT HASELPED CO-LEAD GLENDALE ORGANIZING OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SINCE LAST YEAR MPHA ABOUT THEIR HOMES AND WHAT THEY WOULD PRIORITIZE. THESE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN WELL ATTENDED AND HAVE GENER GENERATED ROBUST COMMENTS. OUR
LAST MEETING HAS BEEN 75 PEOPLE. THEY SHARED AND DISCUSSED THE RESIDENT FAQ THAT ACCOMPANIED YOUR MERIALS TODAY CLARIFYING THE MANY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN TRANSLATED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SOMALI. IT IS IN THESE MEETINGS THESE RESIDENTS OF IDENTIFIED THEIR 11
PRIORITIES AS A PART OF ANY RENOVATION OR REDELOPMENT. IT IS IN THESE MEETINGS THAT AGENCY STAFF HAVE PRESENTED INNOVATION AND REPROACHES FOR RESIDENTS TO CONSIDER ALONG WITH EXTENSIVE FEEDBACK SESSIONS. MPHA HAS ALSO DETAILED RESIDENT COMMITMENTS AND
PROTECTIONS THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY ANY LARGE-SCALE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I SAY ALL THIS TO SAY MPHA IS CENTERING RESIDENT VOICES AND EXPERIENCES IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF GLENDALE. HOWEVER, A HISTORIC DESIGNATION
THREATENS MPHA'S ABILITY TO IMPEDE THE VISION OF BRINGING GLENDALE'S 600 RESIDENTS TO LIFE. FAILING TO DESIGNATE HOMS OF FAMILIES, AND LARGER ITEMS
THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PRIORITIES, AND IT WOULD STOP MPHA FROM TAKING MORE PEOPLE OFF ITS WAITING LIST THAT CURRENTLY RUNS NEARLY 400 FAMILIES LONG. GLEN RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT THIS. THIS COMMUNITY WANTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL ITS DESTINY, TO MEETHE ASPIRATIONS
OF CURRENT AND FUTURE GLENDALE FAMILIES SO ON BEHALF OF GLENDALE FAMILIES PLEASE OPPOSE THIS DESIGNATION AND LET RESIDENTS SHAPE THEUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY LOVE.
>> THANK YOU, IS RASHEED ISAAC HERE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS RASHEED. AND I HAVE WORKED WITH MPHA FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS. FOR
THE LAST 3 YEARS, I'VE SERVED AS MPHA'S DIRECTOR OF PROPERTY OPERATIONS IN MY CURRENT ROLE I OVERRELEASE THE OPERATIONS OF MPHA'S NEARLY 800 SCATTERED SITE FAMILY UNITS. THIS PORTFOLIO
SERVES OVER 3,000 RESIDENTS HALF OF WHOM ARE CHILDREN. IN 2020 MPHA CONVERTED THESE HOMES FROM SECTION 9 PUBLIC HOUSING TO THE SECTION 8 HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PLATFORM. BY DOING THIS, MPHA MORE THAN DOUBLED THE FEDERAL SUBSIDY
FOR OWNING AND OPERATING THE SAME UNITS SERVING THE SAME FAMILIES. ADDITIONALLY, RESIDENTS RENT REMAIN 30% OF THEIR INCOME. THIS HOUSING IS A PROVEN ECONOMIC MOBILITY TOO LIKE NO OTHER.
FOR THE CRENT HEADS OF HOEHOLDS IN HOMES 27% WHEN THEY ENTERED THEIR MPHA HOME. ON AVERAGE THESE RESIDENTS EARNED $26,000 A YEAR. TODAY, 55% OF THE SAME RESIDENTS ARE EMPLOYED EARNING
AN AVERAGE OF $43,000 A YEAR. AND FAMILIES DON'T STAY IN THESE UNITS FOREVER. THE AVERAGE FAMILY STAYS FOR 6 YEARS BEFORE MOVING ON TO OTHER HOUSING, A BETTER YET, SINCE 2020, NEARLY 10% OF THE FAMILIES
WHO MOVED OUT OF THESE HOMES PURCHASED THEIR OWN HOMES. THE FACT IS THERE ARE FEW THINGS AS LIFE-ALRING AS THE STABLIZING FORCE OF MPH FAMILY HOUSING. AND GLENDALE PROVIDES MPHA
THE OPPORTUNY TO ADD MORE INCREDIBLE RESOURCE FOR THE MORE THAN 4,000 FAMILIES ON THE AGENCY'S WAIT-LIST SO WHEN WE SAY GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT, WITH THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WE HAVE WE MEAN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES IN COMING DECADES WITH
NEW FAMILY HOUSINGT GLENDALE. SO I PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAY NO TTHIS APPLICATION. TO PRESERVE GLENDALE FOR THE FAMILIES LIVE THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HAVE AN
INTERPRETER SPEAK TO THE GROUP. (PAUSE.)
>> MY APOLOGY, I'M ONE OF THE TWO SOMALI INTERPRETERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THIS MEETING TO INTERPRET FOR THE SOMALI SPEAKERS. SO I WILL BE IN THE
BACK ROOM INTERPRETING FOR THOSE SO I DON'T HAVE TO WHISPER TO THEM AND DISTURB -- BECOME NUISANCE TO OTHERS SITTING BY ME. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE MORE PRACTICAL. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, THAT' WHAT I PLAN ON DOING. >> I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT. DO YOU WANT TOELL EVERYBODY IN
SOMALI THAT YOU'LL BE DOING
THAT. (PAUSE.) >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT NAME I HAVE IS TAMIKA BASKIN. PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS TAKA BASKIN I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF
MPHA. I AM THE ASSTANT DIRECTOR OF LOW INCOME PUBLIC HOUSING OPERATIONS WITH MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC HOUNG AUTHORITY AND I'M HERE TO SHARE A STATEMENT FROM ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS MARE IMPROPER VAIN WHOSE FAMILY EMIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES IN THE EARLY '80s
AND LANDED IN MPHA PUBLIC HOUSING FROM THE FAMILY HOUSING. SO, UNFORTUNATELY, SHE COULDN'T BE HERE SO I'LLE READING A STATEMENT ON HER BEHALF. MY PARENTS ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE EARLY IN AN 80s AS REFUGEES FROM LAOS ESCAPING THE VIETNAM WAR. ABOUT MY PARENTS FIRST
ARRIVED TO THE U.S. THEY WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET INTO ANSWERING MPHA FAMILY HOME PROVIDING OUR FAMILY WITH SAFE STABLE ROOFS OVER OUR HEADS. IT WAS CRITICAL FOR MY FAMILY BECAUSE IT PROVIDED US STABILITY WITHIN OUR NEW COMMUNITY PUBLIC
HOUSG MADE MY FAMILY FEEL SECURE. KNOWING THERE WAS GOING TO BE A ROOF OVER OUR HEADS ALLOWED MY PARENTS TO WORK HARD, SAVE MONEY AND ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM OF BUYING THEIR OWN HOUSE AFTER A FEW YEARS. FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, AND I STAND ON THEIR SHOULDERS AS
SERVING AS A REGIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER WITHIN MINNEAPOLIS PUBL HOUSING AUTHORITIES OPERATIONS TEAM. I'M THE FIRST HMONG AMERICAN TO HOLD THIS ROLE AT MPHA. MY FAMILY'S STORY IS ONE OF RESILIENCE, HARD WORK AND SUCCESS AND IT ALL STARTED WITH
MPHA FAMILY HOUSING FOUR DECADES AGO. PLEASE GIVE THE 4,000 FAMILIES A MPHA FAMILY HOUSING WAIT-LIST THE SAME OPPORTUNITY MINE HAD TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES. VOTE TO GLOA CHANCE FOR GLEN
RESIDENTS AND VOTE AGAINST GRANTING DESIGNATING HISTORIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. DREW PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> HEY THERE. MY NAME IS DREW.
1211 FOURTH STREET NORTHEAST. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AT MPHA. I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME RECOUNTING WHAT WE HEARD TODAY AND WHAT WE ALSO DID NOT HEAR IN EITHER OF THOSE MEETINGS DURING THE APRIL 8TH
MEETING WE LEARNED CPED DENIED D SHIPPO DOES NOT HE DESIGNATION WE HEARD QUITE A BIT FROM RESIDENTS WE HEARD HOW IMPORTANT THEIR HOME IS AND HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEIR COMMUNITIES. WE'VE HEARD THAT MPHA MAKES THEM FEEL SAFE, IT MAKES THEM FEEL SEEN
AND CARED FOR AND WE ALSO HEARD VERY REAL FEAR OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A RESIDENT WAS DISPLACED OR IF THEY LOST THEIR HOME. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT FEAR HAS BEEN STOKED BY INDIVIDUALS SEEKING TO STOKE CONFUSION AND MISTRUST IN A VULNERABLE POPULATION. AND WE ALSO HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS. WE HEARD FROM
NEIGHBORS WHO SUPPORT IMPOSING ESE RESTRICTIONS ON THIS COMMUNITY SAYING IT'LL BE GOOD FOR THEM. COMMISSIONERS, I TNK IT'S ALSO THAT WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE HOST WITH OURSELVES WHAT WE DID NOT HEAR IN THESE TWO MEETINGS HOW HISTORIC SIGNATION WOULD PRESERVE
SECTION 9 FUNDING BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. HOW HISTORIC DESIGNATION WOULD PRESERVE THESE RESIDENTS' HOMES BECAUSE IT DOES NUMBER 4. HOW HISTORIC DESIGNATION WOULD IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY FOR DISABLED AND ELDERLY RESIDENTS? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. HOW HISTORIC DESIGNATION WOULD HELP THE MORE THAN 4,000
FAMILIES ON MPHA'S FAMILY HOUSING WAIT-LIST GET INTO A HOME? BAUSE IT DOES NOT. AND HOW HISTORIC DESIGNATION WOULD HELP MPHA ADDRESS A $22 MILLION CAPITAL BACKG OR THESE HOMES. COMMISSIONERS R-COMMISSIONERS
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. YOU HEARD FROM A GENTLEMAN EARLIER TODAY. HISTORIES AND CULTURES ARE CARRIED BY THE PEOPLE IS NOT THE PLACE. MPHA SONGLY AGREES WITH THAT WE HAVE FROM THE I DON'T KNOW SET OF THIS BUT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS TODAY LOCKS THESE RESIDENTS IN THESE
70-YEAR-OLD HOMES FOR NO RODEVELOPMENT. I ASK YOU PLEASE TO DENY AND GIVE THE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHAPE THEIR FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. CORA McCARVEY. PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> IT'S McKORFY. CORA McKORFY AND GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAK HERE TODAY. I SERVED AS MPHA'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR 27 YEARS. I RETIREDN 2017. I'M HERE TO AFFIRM PROSPECT PARK ASSOCIATION HAS OPPOSED MPHA INVESTING IN GLENDALE SINCE DAY ONE. WHEN WE STARTED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REDEVELOPING GLENDALE, MORE THAN
A DECADE AGO, I ATTENDED A SERIES OF MEETINGS IN PROSPECT PARK IN THOSE MEETINGS I WAS MET WITH VITRIOL AND ANGER I WAS BERATED BY ATTENDEES OPPOSED TO MPHA IMPROVING GLENDALE. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CONTINUES
PROSPECT PARK ASSOCIATION CENTURY-OLD LEGACY OF OPPOSING BLACK FAMILIES. COMMISSIONERS, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO THE JACKSONS. AMY AND MADISON JACKSON MOVED INTO FROSS SPECK PARK IN 1908.
THE FIRST BLACK FAMILY TO MOVE INTO THE ALL-WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN 1909, PROSPECT PARK ASSOCIATION ORGANIZED 125 NEIGHBORS AND MARCHED ON THE JACKSON'S HOME URGING THEM TO LEAVE. THE TRIBUNE CAPTURED THIS EVENT WITH THE HEADLINE:
RACE WARS STARTED IN PROSPECT PARK. MARVEL JACKSON, THE ELDEST DAUGHTER RECOUNTED PROSPECT PARK ASSOCIATION GOT TOGETHER AND THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT A BLACK FAMY IN THEIR COMMUNITY IT'S BELIEVED THAT THIS EVENT INSPIRED RACIAL COVENANTS BEING
USED IN MINNEAPOLIS WITH THE FIRST COVENANT APPEARING A YEAR LATER. THE JACKSON FAMILY ENDURED UNTIL 1927 WHEN THEY SOLD THEIR HOME AND MOVED SOON AFTER MR. JACKSON DIED. PROSPECT PARK REMAINED AN ALL-WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL
1960. COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF REPEATING HISTORY. DESIGNATING GLENDALE HISTORIC WILL LOCK 600 LOW INCOME RESIDENTS, 89% OF WHOM ARE BLA AND 70-PLUS-YEAR-OLD HOMES AND PREVENT MPHA FROM MAKING A
GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT. IT WILL ALSO STOP NEW BLACK FAMILIES LIKE THE JACKSONS FROM MOVING INTO PROSPECT PARK IN THE NEXT CENTURY. DO NOT CODIFY PROSPECT PARK ASSOCIATIONS SHAMEFUL LEGACY. VOTE TO DENY THE APPLICATION TO DESIGNATE
GLENDALE HISTORIC. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SHALE? OKAY. YOU'VE ALREADY GONE. BEN SANDVIG?
LAYLA? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> HI MY NAME IS LAYLA AND I LIVE FROM SAINT MARYS AVENUE. I'M 16 YEARS OLD. I'VE LIVED IN GLENDALE FOR ALMOST ALL MY LIFE. GLENDALE IS AOMMUNITY THAT HAS PROVIDED MY FAMILY WITH
OPPORTUNITIES A SPACE TO CALL HOME. I BELIEVE GLENDALE SHOULD GET A HTORIC DESIGNATION BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS SAFE. EVYONE CAN STEP OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES FREELY. THERE'S NO
DANGEROUS ROADS. EVERYONE CAN PLAY. EVERYONE CAN GO OUTSIDE FREELY AND EVERYONE JUST LOVES BEING AROUND EACH HER. GLENDALE HAS AN EXHIBIT ONCE EVERY YEAR OR TWO THAT
TEACHES PEOPLE SO MUCH THINGS ABOUT GLENDALE'S HISTORY AND THE CULTURES. GLENDALE EXHIBIT HAS TAUGHT ME SMUCH. THE HISTORY OF GLENDALE IN THE ACTIVE YOUTH LEADERSOR ALMOST 5 DECADES AGO -- I AM PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE HISTORY ALONG WITH THE
DIVERSE COMMUNITY THAT PROTECT EACH OTHER, UNITING SIDE-BY-SIDE TO PROTECT THEIR LOVED HOMES. WE WOULD ALL APPRECIATE IF YOU SAY YES FOR TOWN HOMES, FOR GLENDALE TOWN HOMES HISTORIC
DESIGNATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SAYED ALLI? MALIK
ABDIAZEZ. >> UH-HUH. >> PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> HELLO RECOGNIZE TO MEET YOU. I LIVE AT 76 WILLIAMS AVE SE. I HAVE LIVED AT PROSPECT PARK FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS. I'M 19 FOR THE RECORD SO FOR PRACTICALLY MY
ENTIRE LIFE AND I'VE SEEN THE COMMUNITY HERE. I'VE SEEN -- I'VE GROWN UP HERE. I'VE SEEN MY NEIGHBORS. I'VE SEEN MY FAMILY AND I SAW THE FEAR ON THEIR FACES A DECADE AGO WHEN THESE TOWN HOMES WERE ALMOST
DEMOLISHED BY MPHA. AND THERE IS A LARGE WORRY THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AGAIN AND WITH THE MOST CONFUSING THINGS THAT -- WELL, I'VE BEEN WORKING AS A VOLUNTEER. TO TRY AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUTY TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY THEY THINK,
AND ONE OF THE MOST CONFUSING THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD IS THE IDEA THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WHAT PREVEN THE INTERIOR RENOVATION OF THE HOMES. I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST COMPLETELY WRONG. IN VERY SIMILAR TOWN HOMES
SUCH AS GRISWOLD HEIGHTS AND CORLISS PARK IN OTHER STATES, TOWN HOMES THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE OURS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, THEIR HOUSING COMMITTEE OR ASSOCIATION WERE ABLE TO RENOVATE THESE HOMES WHILE THE PEOPLE LIVED IN THERE WITHOUT
AFFECTING THE FOUNDATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT THERE'S NO REASON THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAP IN HERE. W ALL WANT INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IN THE PAST 10 YEARS AND WHAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING. I HEARD PEOPLE WITH MOLD
ALL OVER THEIR HOUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN GETTING FIXE SINKS ARE BREAKING OFF, MY SINK IN THE BASEMENT HAS BEEN BROKEN. I CALLED THREE TIMES AND NOT GETTING FIXED. THE IDEA THAT THESE RENOVATIONS A COMING AND THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE OF
THIS. THAT IS JUST WRONG THEY HAVEN'T BEEN COMING FOR THE PAST DECADE AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO COME IF HISTORIC RENOVATION IS OPPOSED. I VERY STRONGLY HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE O THIS MOVEMENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ABDUL-MALIK HASAN? AND YOU ALREADY -- OKAY. NOAH TILLMAN? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND
ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING. I'M NOAH TILLMAN. I LIVE ON THE 2800 BLOCK OF DELAWARE STREET, SE. I'M A RESIDENT OF GLENDALE. I'M ALSO AN EMPLOYEE OF MPHA.
I LIKE GLENDALE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS I'M FROM THE BRONX NEW YORK SO I'M USED KIND OF LIVING ON TOP OF PEOPLE AND GLENDALE IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES AND I'VE LIVED IN MINNEAPOLIS SINCE 1996. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT I FELT SOMEPLACE LIKE LEAVING MY SON
OUTSIDE WITHOUT ME HAVING TO WATCH HIM, AND I FEEL SAFE DOING THAT. I TRUST THE COMMUNITY I WORK FOR MPHA AND I WAS ALSO -- I WORK THE PART OF THE FAMILY HOUSING RESOURCES PROJECT WITH THE NEW 16 UNITS THAT THEY
CONSTRUCTED AND I WORK VERY CLOSELY IN MANAGING THAT AND I SAW HOW, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO MOVE INTO UPGRADED UNITS AND FEEL, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT SENSE OF BEING ALIVE TO A UNIT AND NOT BEING ABLE FORCED LIVING LIKE A SLUMLORD
SITUATION. SO I THINK IF Y'ALL SAY YES TO THIS AND KEEP IT HISTORIC, MPHA WON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THE HOUSES AND GIVE THE TENANTS AND THE RESIDENTS WHAT THEY NEED AS FAR AS, LIKE, FUTURE FAMILIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO MOVE
FORWARD AND I THINK THAT GLENDALE IS A SUPER GOOD COMMUNITY AS FAR AS, LIKE -- I DON'T DO TOO MUCH WITH THE RACISM STUFF BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S A REAL, REAL GOOD COMMUNITY AS FAR AS LIKE WHOLESOME PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES AND
CULTURAL BACKGROUNDS AND EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS TOGETHER AND MAKES SURE ALL THE KIDS ARE SAFE AND I WILL THAT ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY I SUGGEST THAT Y'ALL VOTE NO. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MPHA DO THE JOB THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR
THE COMMUNITY AND UPGRADE PEOPL EXPERIENCE A BETTER CHANCE AT LIFE LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS AND THAT'S MY TAKE-AWAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
CAM GORDON? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LETTING ME SPEAK HERE. MY NAME IS CAM
GORDON I LIVE AT 914 FLINK TERRACE D IF YOU STAPH REPORT YOU MAY NOTICED MY NAME IS ON THERE AND I SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL AS I NOMINATED GLENDALE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION PREVIOUSLY. THERE WAS A LOT LEFT OUT IN THAT REPORT ABOUT THAT TIME
SO IF YOHAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. I'LL JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY STORY. I WAS RESISTANT TO NOMINATE GLENDALE HISTORIC -- AS A HISTORIC DESIGNATION ORIGINALLY. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. I TRIED TO WORK OUT TO THE MPHA
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND SEE IF THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD ANY CONCNS. THEY DID. HE THIS DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANY RESEARCH. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FIND OUT ANYTHING JUST LIKE THEY SAID IN THEIR PRESENTATION LAST TIME THEY OPPOSED IT FROM THE GET-GO. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT
THE MPHA OWN A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE RIGHT THERE BY THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND BY THE LIGHT RAIL AND I THINK THAT'S CONCERN AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF INTEREST AND WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THERE AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TOO BUT I SAID IF IT
ACTULY MEETS THE LEGAL CRITERIA I WILL MOVE FORWARD AND I'D BE WILLING TO UNEMPLOYMENT ON THE CONDITION THAT IF IT DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE CRITERIA FCC BE LEGALLY DESIGNATED I'M NOT GOING KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND PUSHING FORWARD. I TRIED TO TAKE IT WITH AN OPEN MIND LIKE YOU I WASN'T AN
EXPERT IN THE DESIGNATION BUT I WANT TO BE WITH EXPERTS TO WEI IN AND THEY DID AND THEY SAID IT WAS TWO CRITERIA THAT IT MELT NEITHER OF THE TWO CRITERIA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REN VIOLATING THE BUILDINGS EVEN ONE H TO DO WITH THE SOCIAL AND YOU ARE THE COMAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HISTORY OF IT. I WOULD SUGGEST
THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE DOES POINT TO A PERSON EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE PERSON BUT IT IT'S HUPPERT H. HUMPHREY AND THE WHOLE MOVEMENT AFTER THE WAR AND THE WHOLE HOUSING AND ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT HPENED THERE AND THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT IT MEETS THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO
AGREE EVEN THE CITY STAFF DENYING APPROVAL -- I GUESS I HAVE TO BE DONE.(LAUGH.) >> DARN! I'M JUSTETTING START. >> THANK YOU, CAM. >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE AROUND. >> I SEE A SAMIRA ALLY -- IS
THIS THE SAME -- NEW ONE. >> WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR NAMES. MY NAME IS SAMIRA I LIVE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS 950 OLIVER NORTH. I LIVE -- I'M A GRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA WORKING WITH MY COMMUNITY PARTNER TO DEFEND GLE COALITION. I WILL USE MY TIME
TODAY TO HIGHLIGHT THE VALUE AND DESIGNING GLENDALE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. IN AUGUST 2024 THE MINNESOTA STA PRESERVATION OFFICE STATED IT BELIEVES A COMPELLING ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE FOR UNEMPLOYMTING GLENDALE TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACESND
RECOGNIZES SEVERAL PROGRAMS UNDER EDGE BELT. BELIEVE GLENDALE IS ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER NATIONALLY ONLY 3% OF NATIONAL REGISTER LISTINGS ARE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY AND THIIS LESS VISIBLE IN MINNESOTA WHERE 1% LISTINGS
IS CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT TO BLACK HISTORY. LENDALE OFFERS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO DOCUMENT AND HONOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BIPOC ANDORKING CLASS RESIDENTS TO THE HISTORY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE STATE THE MINNESOTA. IN 2022, GLENDALE RESIDENTS UNCOVERED SEVERAL ARKIAL MATERIALS HOUSED AT THE HENNEPIN COUNTY LIBRARY THROUGH
ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEWS AND ARCHIVAL RESEARCH AND RESIDENTS DISCOVERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AND ADVOCACY OF THE RESIDENTS. EXAMPLES INCLUDE RESIDENT ADVOCACY FOR TENANT REPRESENTATION ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO THE LAUNCH OF THE LITTLE CO-OP STORE WHICH IS A TENANT-OWNED FOOD COOPERATIVE.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE AMPLES THE WAY GLENDALE STANDS TESTAMENT TO THE CREATIVITY INGENUITY AND CARE TO PUBLIC RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MINNEAPOLIS WORKING CLASS HISTORY. PUBLIC HOUSG RESIDENTS HAVE PARTICIPATED AND CONTINUE TO SHAPE THE POLITICAL AND SOCIAL HISTORY OF MINNEAPOS. MINNESOTA HISTORY IS INCOMPLETE
WITHOUT THE INCLUSION AND PRESERVATION OF THEIR STORIESS WELL AS THEIR HOMES. I HOPE THAT THE MPHA WIHP WILL ARE CAN THE RICH EFFORT OF THE COMMUNITY A DESIGNATE GLENDALE AS A HISTORIC AREA.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THAT COMPLETED MY LIST. ARE TH SPEAK? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS LET'S DISCUSS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED APPLICATION? COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM. >> I'LL JUMP IN, THANK YOU. VICE-CHAIR. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROPER TERM IS. SO I MADE THE -- I MADE THE
MOTION AT OUR LAST MEETING AND I DID CHANGE MY OPINION HEARING THE TESTIMONY LAST TIME AND I FEEL SIMILARLY THIS TIME THAT NOTHING HAS -- NOTHING PRESENTED
HAS CHAED MY OPINION THAT WE SHLD DESIGNATE -- WE SHOULD DESIGNATE THIS SITE AS HISTORIC. THE DOCUMENT THAT
MR. SKALECKI PROVIDED WAS A REAL NICE ANALYSIS OF THIS BUT IT DID FIND THAT BASED ON CRITERIAS 1 AND 5, THAT THE -- THAT THE BUILDING DOES HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO BE RECOGNIZED. WHAT I THINK IS RELEVANT AND KNEWO ME, AT LEAST NEW RELATED IS A LOT OF -- A LOT OF THE PUSH-BACK TO DESIGNATING THE GLENDALE COMMUNITY AS HISTORIC
HAS BEEN BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL ALTERATIONS TOWARD BUILDING OVER TIME AND I THINK WE'D ALL RECOGNIZE THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THAT DOESN'T ERASE THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL HISTORY. THIS WAS THE LOCATION OF THE
FIRST HEAD START. THE SITE RETAINS ITS LANDSCAPE AND VOLUMEIC INTEGRITY. IT STILL RETAINS ITS STATUS AS A HISTORY OF WORKING CLASS HOUSING AND THE
CITY'S COMMITMENT TO TRYING TO HOUSES THE UNDERCLASSES OF OUR CITY. I WOULD GO ALONG AND ADD TO THAT, THAT -- TO FURTHER -- I'D LIKE TO SAY DIMINISH THE
FOCUS ONLY THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY OF THE HOMES. TO SAY THAT WHEN WE DESIGNATED THE PRINCE ROGERS NELSON HOME BACK ABOUT -- I THINK IT WAS 4 OR 5 MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS THE
FINDINGS IN THERE WHICH WE ACCEPTED AT THE TIME UNANIMOUSLY IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT THE HOUSE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED. THAT THAT HOUSE HAS HAD STONE ADDED TO THE FRONT.
IT HAS HAD A GARAGE ADDED TO IT AND OTHER CHANGES OVER TIME. YET, THIS BODY FELT THAT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES DID N NEGATE THE SOCIAL IMPORTANCE OF THE PRINCE ROGERS NELSON CHILDHOOD HOME AND I WOULD MAKE
THE SAME ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT THE CHANGES TO THESE BUILDINGS DO NOT ERASE THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS BEING THE REMAINING AND OLDEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE CITY --
IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHEN I REATHROUGH THE -- THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OPINION FROM THE SHIPPO FOLKS IT TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE TO THE ALTERATIONS TO THE BUILDING. THEY SAY I QUOTE
WE CCUR THAT THE GLENDALE TOWNHOUSE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT STIMULUS PLAN EARLY EXAMPLE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VETERANS AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS CONSTRUCTED IN RESPONSE TO THE HOUSING SHORTAGE FOLLOWING WORLD WAR II. HOWEVER, DUE TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE ALTERATIONS TO THE BUILDING
IN 1972, I 1989 THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY HAS BEEN IRREVERSIBLY COMPROMISED. I FULLY AGREE BUT I THINK TO DESIGNATE HISTORIC SITES OY ON THE ARCHITECTURAL
INTEGRITY IS IGNORING THE MANY OTHER COMPONENTS THAT MAKE OUR CITY RICH AND WONDERFUL. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I DO NOT AGREE WITH T -- WITH THE PLANNING AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT CONVENTIONS -- OR DEPARTMENTS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NOT RECOGNIZE THIS AS HISTORICALLY RELEVANT DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ?
>> SURE. IL ADD ON TO THAT. I THINK WE'RE TAKING TOO NARROW OF A VIEW TO SAY THAT THE ONLY KIND OF PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE AS IT WERE IS 1950s. ONLY POST-WAR KIND VETERANS COMING IN. GOING TO
THE UNIVERSITY, LIVING IN THESE HOUSES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STRUCK ME ONE OF THE PREVIOUS STAFF REPORTS WAS KIND OF THE MENTION OF HOW THE RESIDENTS KIND OF PUSHED TO BECOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING
REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. THAT HAPPENED IN 1968 AND THEN IN 1972, THAT BOARD PLAD A BIG ROLE IN THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO SOME OF THE FABRIC OF THE BUILNG, THE ROOFS, I THINK, WERE MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEENG. AND SO I FEEL, LIKE,
THAT'S A REALLY COMPEING ARGUMENT FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THIS SOCIAL AND CULTURAL HISTORY. THAT WAS CHANGING IN THIS PERIOD AND THAT -- THAT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T ENCOMPASS ALL THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE THAT'S
THE HIP ROOFS VERSUS THE FLAT ROOFS. MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE TO THE BUILDING TO ME I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR SIGNIFICANCE AND FOR INTEGRITY UP TO THAT PERIOD OF SOME OF THE
CHANGED. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WALLACE THOMAS. >> THANKS, CHAIR. IT IS THOMAS. (LAUGH.) >> OR WALLACE. I CAME PREPARED SO I JUST GOING TO READ WHAT I CAME
PREPARED WITH. THE GLENDALE TOWN HOMES HOLD DEEP CULTURAL HISTORICAL VALUE AND WHY I BELIEVE THIS NOMINATION GLENDALE WAS THE MINNEAPOLIS'S FIR PUBLIC HOUSING BUILT IN RESPONSE TO THE POST-WORLD WAR II HOUSING CRISIS IT WAS MORE THAN JUST BUILDINGST WAS A PUBLIC
DECLARATION THAT HOUSING SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE AND NOT JUST FOR THE WEALTHY. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THIS NOMINATION IS SUPPORTIVE UNDER CRITERION 1 FOR THE STRONG ASSOCIATION WITH BROAD PATTERNS OF SOCIAL AND POLITICAL HISTORY. GLENDALE MARKED A MAJOR SHIFT IN HOW OUR CITY ADDRESSED HOUSING ACCESS
AND IT CONTINUES TO REFLECT THAT LEGACY. I ALSO WHAT BELIEVE IT MEETS CRITERION 5 'CAUSE IT'S A DEFINING PART OF THE PROSPECT PARK'S NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY THAT LAYOUT WITH THE SHARED GREEN SPACES AND THAT THOUGHTFUL
LAN MIKES MAKES A VIABLE THAT MAKES IT A NEIGHBORHOOD WHETHER IT WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED OR NOT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I DO STILL BELIEVE IT FLECTS A DISTINCT MODEL OF INTEGRATION AND COMMUNITY-BUILDING. AND WHILE SOME MAY QUESTION GLENDALE'S ELIGIBILITY
UNR CRITERION 4 I'LL ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MENTIONED. I ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT STILL QUALIFIES BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES WITH THE ROOFS AND WINDOWS AND SIDINGS. BUT THOSE TELL A STORY, COMPELLING STORY OVER TIME, AND THE OVERALL
FORM PASSING LOOKOUT BETEN BUILDINGS REMAINS INTACT IN PRESERVATION THE STANDARD ISN'T PEECTION. IT'S WHETHER THE PLACE RETAINS THE PHYSICAL FEATURES THAT CONVEYS ITS SIGNIFANCE IF AN ORIGINAL OWNER CAME TO THOSE HOUSES I
BELIEVE THEY WOULD EASILY RECOGNIZE THEM AS A HOME. GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS HAVE UPDATED ADAPTED AND LOVINGLY MAINTAINED THESE HOMES. TO BE CLEAR, HISTORIC DESIGNATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT THESE HOMES MUST REMAIN OUTDATED. IT DOES NOT PREVENT UPGRADES LIKE HV,
BETTER INSULATION, ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS OR OTHER ESSENTIAL MODERNTIONS. WHAT IT DOES ENSURE IS THAT CHANGE HAPPENS WITH PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY. A CITY STAFF RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN SUPPORT AND I BELIEVE THAT KIND OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT SPEAKS
VOLUMES. GLEN MATTERS NOT JUST TO THOSE WHO LIVE THERE NOW BUT TO A WIDER NETWORK OF PEOPLE WHOSE ITS MEANING AND ITS LEGACY. I BELIEVE IT'S VALUE LIES WHAT IT REPRESENTS WHICH IS A FAMILY ORIENTED LOW DENSITY MODEL OF PUBLIC HOUSING THAT WAS THOUGHTFULLY INTEGRATED INTO A PUBLIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THE
COMMUNITY THAT HOLDS IT TOGETHER DESERVES RECOGNITION AND PROTECTION. AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE IN MOMENT OF HOUSING CRISIS AND GLENDALE IS A REMINDER THAT OUR CITY CHOSE TOUILD DURING THE LAST ONE AND THAT THIS DESIGNATION GIVES CURRENT RESIDENTS A GREATER VOICEN SHAPING WHAT COMES NEXT.
I BELIEVE A HISTORIC DEGNATION DOES NOT OPPOSE CHANGE IT JUST INSISTS CHANGE BE JUST, AND ROOTED IN COMMUNITY AND SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WALLACE? >> THANK YOU, AND THA EVERYONE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS
TODAY. WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT AND YOUR EXPERIENCE I DON'T HAVE MUC TO ADD AS I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID HERE. SOTHING THAT I DO WANT TO UNDERLINE IS THAT HISTORIC DESIGNATION DOES NOT PREVENT THE
UPGRADES THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS NEEDED, AS WANTED, AS ADVOCATED FOR A LONG TIME. DESIGNATION DOES NOT PREVENT THAT AND SO I THINK THERE'S SOME MISCOMMUNICATION AROUND THAT FACT. OUR CHARGE HERE IS RATHER
NARROW. WE ARE HERE TO -- TO BASICALLY ELUATE WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPERTY IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EVIDENCE FOR THAT AND I KNOW THAT THERIMARY CHALLENGE TO THE SIGNIFICANCE -- OR RATHER THE ELIGIBILITY FOR LISTING ITS
INTEGRITY AND FOR THE REASONS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE OUTLINED. I TOO AGREE IT RETAINS INTEGRITY TO BE LISTED. THE OTHER PIECE TT I DID JUST WANT TO UNDERLINE IS THAT THE DESIGNATION DOESN'T PREVENT RESIDENTS FROM SHAPING THEIR
FUTURE, IN FACT, FOR ALL THE ROUTINES THAT COMMISSIONER THOMAS OUT -- REASONS THAT COMMISSIONER THOMAS OUTLINED ELEVATE THE CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE TO THE PROPERTY AND THAT -- ON THE EXTERI BUT THAT RESIDENCE HAVE
A GREATER VOICE AND CLEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR LAST TIME AND THIS TIME HAVE SHOWN DIFFERENCES OF OPINION BUT AN AGREED-UPON VISION THAT THIS PROPERTY AND THIS COMMUNITY MATTERS AND FOR ALL OF THE REASONS TT YOU'VE DESCRIBED THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN
NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL O THAT. THE MPHA SERVING THAT DOESN'T PREVENT MPHA FROM INVESTING IN RENOVATION. IT DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T KEEP THEM FROM DIGGING BACK INTO THE 22 MILLION DOLLAR BACKLOG THAT IS
NOT BECAUSE OF HISTORIC DESIGNATION. SO I JUST WANT TO LAY THAT OUT BUTHINGS OUR CHARGE HERE IS NOT AROUND THAT. IT IS TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPERTY IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANTHILE WE MAY HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS BY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED
THAT IS REALLY OUR FOCUS OF TODAY SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY PROVIDING COMMENTS. IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US AS A PUBLIC-FACING COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT FOR THE REASONS THAT I'VE OUINED I
WOULD ALSO SUPPORT A DESIGNATION. >> COMMISSIONER HERR? >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ABSENCE
LAST MEETING. I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE VIDEO AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT CAME TO SPK BEFORE US, TELL US THEIR HALTER FELT STORIES AND
THOUGHTFUL -- THOUGHTFUL REASONS WHY OR WHY NOT THIS COMMUNITY SHALL GAIN HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
YOU KNOW, THIS -- THIS TOPIC ITEM IS HIGHLY POLITICAL BUT I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO SEE THROUGH THE POLITICS OF THIS ALL AND REALLY
LOOK AT THE PROPERTY IN A WHOLE AND I TOO WILL SUPPORT THE HISTORIC NOMINATION.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERR? ANYONE ELSE? I GUESS I WOULD SAY WHEN WE SAW THIS COME BEFORE US -- WAS IT LT JUNE? AT THAT POINT I FELT PRETTY STRONGLY THAT THE SITE HAD RETAINED ITS
SIGNIFICANCE UNDER CRITERION 1 AND 5 AND I THINK -- I STILL FEEL THAT WAY FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THAT OUR COMMISSION HAS ALREADY LAID OUT SO WITH ALL OF THAT, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER
MELLBLOM? >> YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BUT BEFORE I DO THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I THINK WE DO NEED TO REGNIZE THAT THE BUILDINGS HAVE SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENT INTENANCE AND THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE THING THAT MPHA IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I
DON'T THINK -- I'D LE TO BELIEVE THAT NONE OF US KNOW THE DIFFICULTY IT'S GOING TO BE TO GET THAT MUNG AND TO CHANGE THE BUILDINGS TO UPGRA THEM AND UPDATE THEM. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT
THAT -- THAT'S NOT RULING HOW I SEE THE SENSE OF THIS AS BEING HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE TION THAT NEVERTHELESS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I MOVE THAT THE HERITAG PRESERVATION
COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE LOCAL DESIGNATION OF THE GLENDALE TOWNHOUSES HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH LOCAL DESIGNATION CRITERIA NO. 1 AND 5.
>> THOS SECONDS. >> ANDREA BURKE? >> THANK YOU. VICE-CHAIR MASTON AND MELLBLOM. I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE AS YOUR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS MOTION BECAUSE
THERE ARE VERY REAL IMPLICATIONS AS THIS CONTINUES DOWN THE PATH THAT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO AS YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE STARTED THE MOTION AS, YOU KNOW, CORRECTLY NEVERTHELESS STAFF RECOMMENDATION 'CAUSE
STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED A DENIAL. IN MAKING THIS MOTION TO OVERTURN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GUIDE YOU IN SOME OF THE THINGS AND YOU HAVE MADE A FEW FINDINGS I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPEAT THEM BECAUSE I'M RIGHT TO NOTE THEM AS WELL. BUT JUST REMINDING YOU TO
MAKE FINDINGS RELATIVE TO THE CRITERIA OF SIGNIFICANCE AND THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY TO JUSTIFY THE RATIONALE FOR DESIGNATION. STAFF HAS ALSO STRONY SUGGESTING THAT THE HPC PROPOSE A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT DONE -- I MEAN, WE
PROTESTED A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE BUT WE'RE DENYING -- STAFF HAS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION. PROPOSING A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE WITH A JUSTIFICATION FOR HISTORIC TEGRITY WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE IF IT IS,
YOU KNOW, THINKING DOWN THE SCENARIOS -- IF IT IS DESIGNATED BY COUNCIL IN THE END, CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY'S PHYSICAL FEATURES WILL NEED TO BE EVALUATED THROUGH HISTORIC DENY REBOOT PROCESSES IN PERPETUITY. IF THERE'S UNCLEAR AND
CONFLICTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE CRITERIA SIGNIFICANCE, THE PERIOD OFIGNIFICANCE AND/OR THE HISTORIC SEATBELTING AND A DESIGNATION, IT CAN COMPLICATE THE REVIEW PROCESS GOING FORWARD. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS.
THAT'S FOR YOU TO DECIDE. BUT REGARDING PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, YOU KNOW, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT EITHER TURNING POINTS IN THE DATE OF THE CRITERIA OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT YOU ARE SELECTING TO OVERTURN STAFF RECOMMENDATION,
CONSTRUCTION DAYLIGHTS IS AN OPTION. THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR DOING THAT. FOR THIS POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRIC BUT I WANTED TO SUGGEST TO SET SOME BOUNDARY FOR THIS TO HELP THIS IF THIS GOES THROUGH,
OBVIOUSLY, THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE A VOTE SO ON AND FORTH BUT IF I MAY PROVIDE SUCH GUIDANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE A SUGGESTION? COMMISSIONER
MELLBLOM. >> NOT ABOUT THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE BUT THE FINDINGS. I GRIND GROUND -- SORRY, I GROUND MY MOTION IN THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN MINNEAPOLIS AND THUS ITS SOCIAL HISTORY AND COMMUNITY PLANNING
QUALIFIED AS LANDMARKABLE, THE SITE RETAINS ITS LANDSCAPING AND VOLUMETRICNTEGRITY AND THOSE WERE THE TWO PIECES THAT I PARTICULARLY LANDED ON. I WOULD WELCOME OTHERS' OBSERVATIONS TO AMEND MY MOTION
WITH OTHER FINDINGS. >> COMMISSIONER WALLACE? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR -- VICE-CHAIR. I AGREE -- SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER MELLBLOMUST SAID. THE OTHER PIECE IS I'VE
BEEN CONSIDERING AROUND THIS IN TERMS OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTY -- WHILE, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN ALTERATIONS PARTICULARLY TO THE ENTRYWAYS INTO THE ROOF AND THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT, WE'VE KIND OF ESTABLISHED ALL OF THAT AND AGREE THERE, I DON'T BELIEVE
THAT THOSE -- OR I DON'T SEE THAT THOSE ALTERATIONS HAVE DIMINISHED THE ABILITY OF THE PROPERTY TO CONVEY ITS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANT UNDER CRITERION 1 AND 5. THAT IS IN PART WHAT COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM
SAID AND COMMISSIONER THOMAS SAID IN HER STATEMENT ALL THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGSTAND IN THE ORIGINAL SPOT THAT THEY WERE. THEY RETAIN THEIR FOOTPRINTS AND THAT ALL, LIKE, FED ADMINISTRATION IS -- FED
STRATIONS AND WHILE THOSE PIECES ARE NOT NECESSARILY WHAT MAKES IT SIGNIFICANT 'CAUSE CLEARLY WE'VE OUTLINED WHAT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN TERMS OF SOCIAL HISTORY IS, THOSE PIECES ABOUT ITS INTEGRITY HAVE -- HAVE LED ME TO SUPPORT
ITS DESIGNATIONS AND THAT THE INTEGRITY HASN'T BEEN DIMINISHED TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT IT CAN'T CONVEY ITS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. OR A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, I WOULD RECOMMEND ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION THROUGH 1980 AND THAT DOES INCLUDE
CONSTRUCTION DATES OF THE -- OF THE -- SOME OF THE MAJOR ALTERATIONS BUT I THINK THAT PERIOD COVERS WHAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ WAS NOTING, NOT TO SPEAK FOR HER BUT THAT THE -- THAT THOSE ALTERATIONS CAME ABOUT DUE TO SOCIAL CHANGE
BECAUSE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS YOU CAN MAKE THAT CASE FOR THAT EXTENDED PERIOD OF SIGNIFANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. >> SURE, THANK YOU. I
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER WALLACE JUST SAID AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT. I WONDER IF THIS KIND OF AND KIND OF THE EXPANDED
CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MEANS THAT THIS PROPERTY MEETS CRITERION 3 THE PROPERTY HAS DISTINGUISHED ELEMENTS OF CITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY IN THAT THE -- IN THAT RESIDENTS OF
LOW-INCOME HOUSING HELPED SHAPE SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE 1970s.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> TNKS. IT MIGHT BE KIND OF A MOOT POINT HERE BUT IT' A MESSY SITUATION, A MESSY ISSUE
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND TESTIMONIES AND OBSERVATIONS FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC THA CAME HERE TO SHARE THEIR STORIES AS WELL AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I DO WORRY THAT AS A LOT
OF STAFF AT MPHA HAVE NOTED THAT DESIGNATION DOES HAMSTRING IMPROVEMENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE COMMUNITIES COULD BENEFIT FROM. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT -- THEY CAME UP AND
THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT A GREAT EXPERIENCE, WHAT A WONDERFUL PLACE TS IS AND NOW WE ARE SAYING THIS CAN BE A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR THIS MANY PEOPLE AND THAT'S ALL. THERE WAS NOTHING
PARTICULARLY GROUNDBREAKING OR REVOLUTIONARY ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS WHEN THEY WERE BUILT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY -- I MEAN, IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, THEY'RE NOT EAT DESIGNS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE THEM
IMPRACTICAL. THEIR IMPRACTICALITIES THAT ARE -- THAT ARE HARD TO OVERCOME WITH IMPROVEMENTS. WE CAN IMPROVE SOME OF THE FINISHES BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE SINGLE LEVEL LIVING POSSIBLE IN A LOT OF
THESE UNITS. ACCESBILITY IS GOING TO BE TRICKY NO MATTER WHAT. AND -- YEAH, I -- YOU KNOW, WE LIVE -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE 40 FLAN. WE'RE
LOOKING -- WE KNOW DENSITY IS IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY ALONG CORRIDORS WHERE THERE ARE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, EASY TRANSPORTATION TO JOBS, GROCERY STORES. YEAH, I'M NOT
CONCERNED. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT MOMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY, WITH THIS SITE. I'M NOT -- I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE ARCHITEURE
WAS AT THE TIME IN 1952 WAS DOING ANYTHING PARTICULARLY SPECIAL THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED. I CAN SEE COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM THE ARGUMENT FOR THE
SOCIAL SIGNIFICANCE. BUT, YEAH, INCOME AT THE END OF THE AT A -- I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, ABOUT HOW THEIR KIDS CAN PLAY OUTSIDE, HOW THEY FEEL SAFE. AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THIS
COMMITY AND I JUST THINK WELL, THERE'S 4300 OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE WAITING IN LINE BE ABLE TO KIND OF MAKE THAT TTIMONY AS WELL, AND I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THOSE
FOLKS. THANKS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER
ALEXANDER. COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM DO YOU WANT TO MODIFY YOUR MOTION? >> YEAH, I ADDED -- WELL, I STATED THE TWO -- THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YO CHAIR
MASTIN. I STATED THE TWO FINDINGS FOR WHY. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE THIRD ONE ASSISTED BY COMMISSIONER WALLACE WHICH SAYS IT IS BASKETBALL STILL CONVEY THEIR HISTORICAL INTEGRITY.
AS A SIDE-BAR TO THAT I STILL AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. THEY'RE NOT FANCY BUILDINGS AND I THINK THAT'S FOR ME THE COMPELLING REASON TO SAVE THEM. WE PRIORITIZE THE GRAND VERSUS THE ORDINARY AND SOMETIMES T ORDINARY IS THE
THING THAT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS MORE OF THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAN THE ANDEST PLACES THAT WE HAVE. BUT I AGREE WITH YO IT'S NOT EASY DECISION BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND I WOU BASED ON THE COMMENT THAT I HEARD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SETH PERD OF SIGNIFICANCE FROM 1952 WHEN THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT THROUGH 19 WHEN THE LAST RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING WERE DONE AND I BELIEVE THAT CORRIDORS TO THE
RECOMMENDATION FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. ANDREA BURKE? >> THANK YOU VICE-CHAIR. MASTIN. I WANTED TO COUPLE THINGS -- I WANT YOU TO RESTATE THE MOTI. I'M STILL TAKING
NOTE THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF M WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF THE 1989 IS BEING PROPOSED THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN 50 YEARS. NOW THERE'S NOT -- NOT SIGNIFICANTLY BUT THERE'S -- THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT STATES IT HAS TO BE 50 YEARS,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE OF A NATIONAL REGISTER KIND OF GUIDELINE BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED KIND OF IN MY SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW, THESE DO
HAVE -- THIS MAKES A VERY REAL DIFFERENCE HOW THIS IS CARRIED THROUGH. NOW GRANT THE HVC IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATIONO COUNCIL AND IT'S THE COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION TO BE DESIGNATED. BUT AS I MENTIONED CONSIDERING
STAFF CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL AND WHAT A HAPPENS HERE DOES HAVE REAL IMPLICATIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY OPINIONS ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY JOB BUT WHEN YOU DO GO TO -- I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU READ THE MOTION AGAIN IN ITS ENTIRETY TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN TRANSCRIBE IT
AND THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST HAVE A QUESTION OF THE CLERK IF IT IS OKAY, VICE-CHAIR BECAUSE I BELIEVE I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE THE DISCUSSION AND JUST WHAT THE PROPER PROETQUELL IS TO -- PROTOCOL TO MOVE FORWARD IF THAT HAS TO BE VOTED
ON OR COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM IF WE CAN CONTINUE MODIFYING THE MOTION AT THIS POINT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR MISS BURKE IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE THAT WE
WOULD NOT, FRANKLY, AMENDMENTS BUT GIVEN THE NATURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO EDIT WHERE WE'RE A IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO RESTATE THE MOTION IN ITS ENTIRETY. ITS I'M NOT LIKE THE PROPOSITION WAS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MOTION SO I INK WE'RE OKAY TO GO AHEAD AS WE
HAVE BEEN. THANK YOU FOLLOW THE QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER WALLACE. >> SORRY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I JUST HAD ONE MORE KIND OF THOUGHT, JUST CLARIFICATION THAT TO REITERATE, HISTORIC
DESIGNATION DOES NOT PREVENT DEVELOPMENT, DS NOT PREVENT SUPPORTING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF PEOPLE THROUGH THE CITY TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DOESN'T PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR LIKE OUR
PURVIEW IS PRETTY NARROW HERE AND AGAIN WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND WISHES FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PEOPLE WITHIN IT BUT WE'RE -- OUR VOTE IS PRETTY FOCUSEDND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK REGARDLESSF THE
OUTCOME TONIGHT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN BE DONE. THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE ON BEHALFF ALL OF US SO I JUST WANT TO LAY THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MELLBLOM. >> SO BEFORE I RETATE I GUESS I
WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION OF ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE? IF NOT 1952 TO 1989?
>> COMMISSIONER WALLACE? SORRY. THANK YOU. WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THROUGH 1989. I THINK THAT 1980 MAY BE A MORE
APPROPRIATE SIGNIFICANCE FOR A MOMENT. IT DOES COVER THE FIRST CONSTRUCTION DATE AND IT COVERS SOME OF THE SOCIAL MOVEMENT THAT IS SO COMPELLING IN TERMS OF EXTENDING IT. THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE. THIS WILL, OF COURSE,
AFFECT DECISIONS GOING FORWARD IF THIS DESIGNATION GOES THROUGH BUT A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE CAN BE EXTENDED AT A LATER DATE SO THAT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COVER THAT BROAD OF A SWATH TONIGHT. JUST SOMETHING
TO CONSIDER. >> MR. MELLBLOM? >> I WILL RETATE MY MOTN THEN. NEVERTHELESS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I MOVE THAT THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE LOCAL DESIGNATION OF THE GLENDALE TOWNHOUSES HISTORIC
DISTRICT BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH LOCAL DESIGNATION CRITERIA NO. 1 AND 5. IT IS THE FIRST FINDING -- IT IS THE FIRST AFFORDAB HOUSING PROJECT IN MINNEAPOLIS AND THUS SOCIAL AND COMMUNY PLANNING QUALIFY IT AS LANDMARKABLE.
NO. 2 IT RETAINS THE LASCAPE AND VOLUMETRIC INTEGRIT THAT WAS INITIALLY -- THAT WAS INITIALLY CREATED WHEN THE BUILDIN WERE BUILT AND CITED. NO. 3 THAT THE BUILDINGS
STILL CONVEY THEIR HISTORIC INTEGRITY THOUGH WE RECOGNIZE EY HAVE BEEN CHANGED OVER TIME. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SET THE PERIOD OF SNIFICANCE -- OR PROPOSE WE SET THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FROM 1952 TO 1972 SO THAT THERE'S A CLEAR
DEMARCATION FOR THE SECOND -- FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT THE BUILDINGS WERE MODIFIED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT COULD IT BE EXTENDED AT A LATER DATE. IT SEEMS LIKE A YEPPER WAY TO KIND
OFHOOSE THAT DATE RATHER THAN KIND OF A DATE BETWEEN 1972ND 1989. >> COMMISSIONER WALLACE SECONDS
THE MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS MELLBLOMND WALLACE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PURCHASE OKAY. SEEING NONE,
WOULD THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL.
(ROLL CALL.)
>> THERE ARE 7 AYES AND 1 NAY. >> THANK YOU, THE MOTION PAES. (APPLAUSE.) >> IS THAT THE RIGHT WORDING? YEAH. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC
HEARING ITEMS. DO COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR COMMISSION BUSINESS TO DISCUSS? >> YES, I DO.
I'LL WAIT JUST A MOMENT. >> OKAY. >> IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD PLEASE MOVE THEIR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE WHILE THE
MEETING IS CURRENTLY STILL UNDER GAVEL. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT
AGAIN? (GAVELING) >> THANK YOU. YEAH, ANDREA BURKE, SUPERVISOR FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TEAM. I
REALLYUST HAVE ONE -- THANK YOU FOR THE REQUEST FOR TOPICS FOR THE HBV RETREAT WHICH IS COMING UP MAY 15TH CITY MENTIONED WE WILL NOTICE FOR IT. IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT IT IS ON MAY 15TH, WHICHS A THURSDAY WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR USUAL TUESDAY.
WE MEET FROM 3:00 PM TO ROUGHLY 6:00 PM. WE MEET IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING. AND WE TALK ABOUT TOPICS -- A NUMBER OF ITEMS THEY'RE SORT OF GENERAL TO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE HPC, IF THERE'S REFRESHER ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO GO OVER JUST
WITH REGARD TO SOME PROTOCOL ON THEHPC WE DO THAT AND THEN OTHER LARGER TOPICS THAT ARE OF CONCERN SO I RECEIVED THE TOPICS. I'M POUTING TOGETHER I HAVE A AGENDA THAT WILL GO OUT AS NORMAL SO THIS IS A NEW
NOTICE COMMISSIONERS OF WHAT THISIS. IT'S A LITTLE INFORMAL COMPARED TO THIS MEETING. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED SOMETIMES WE DO GET MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT DO SHOW UP. WE STILL DO ROLL CALL AND IT'S STILL TREATED AS SUC SO I THINK THAT IS --
THERE'S PROBABLY MORE ANNOUNMENTS BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT WHAT I HAVE TODAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS? >> I HAD A QUESTION FOR -- IF YOU DON'T MIND. I'M SORRY THAT I MISSED THE CALL FOR TOPICS. IS THAT
STILL AN OPENISCUSSION THAT I COULD -- >> COMMISSIONER WALLACE, I'M SO SORRY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. YOU'RE ON THE EMAIL BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? STUFF HAPPENS. THAT'S OKAY. >> IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- >> HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS. I HAD TO GO UNTIL THE END OF YESTERDAY.
>> OH, I APOLOGITO GO -- IF WE N WANT TO SAY THE END OF THE DAY TOMORROW. THAT'S FINE. IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING THAT'S FINE. I HAVE A DRAFT. >> I APOLOGIZE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CITY EMAIL PROBABLY -- >> NO WORRIES. (LAUGH.)
>> THE OTHER -- THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL ADHERE TO THAT DEADLINE. DO WE HAVE A ROOM -- WE KNOW IT'S IN THIS ROOM BUT IS IT -- IS THERE A ROOM WE SHOULD PLAN ON BEING IN? >> VICE-CHAIR MASTIN AND COMMIS
ROOM 300 OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING AND I WILL SEND OUT ORIENTATION TO THAT AND WHERE TO GO BUT, YES, IT'S IN ROOM 300 OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING SO THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE CENTER SO IT'S IN THE REGULAR CITY BUILDING, YEAH. >> GREAT. >> AND SO MOSTLY WE ARE IN A
LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM. WE ARE SITTINGROUND A TABLE AND THEN SOMETIMES MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL DROP I AND LISTEN BUT WE WILL HAVE OUR CLERK THERE TO CALL ROLL. WE OFTEN HAVE SOMEBODY THAT TAKES NOTES JUST TO TRACK WHAT'S GOING ON SO...
GOOD QUESTIONS. >> I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY OTHERS? OKAY. DID I END UP ON THE WRONG SHEET. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THERE BEING NO OTHER BUSINESS T COME BEFORE THIS
MEETING AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, I DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING
OF THE HPC IS TUESDAY MAY 6TH.