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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: gJ42Gdob2fg):
- 00:00:04: Meeting Call to Order and Roll Call Verification
- 00:01:39: CCPO Introduction, Functions, and Complaint Process Overview
- 00:05:02: Review Panels, Case Status, and Filing a Complaint
- 00:08:26: CCPO Milestones, Community Engagement, Core Responsibilities
- 00:11:53: Policy Research and Recommendations Committee Overview
- 00:15:10: Early Intervention System, Discipline Matrix, Immigration Policy
- 00:20:04: Community Input Requested on Policing Topics
- 00:25:45: Public Comment Period Rules and Procedures Established
- 00:27:23: Public Comment 1: Jim Kuzmitski - Data Integrity Concerns
- 00:29:27: Public Comment 2: Andrew - Low Turnout and MDHR Consent
- 00:33:55: Public Comment 3: Ethan O'Brien - Policy 9-401 Concerns
- 00:37:37: Public Comment 4: Connor Wells - 9-401 Clarification
- 00:41:53: Public Comment 5: James Riley - Rights and 911 Dispatch
- 00:45:33: Public Comment 6: Lauren George - Domestic Violence Response
- 00:47:15: Public Comment 7: Chuck Turchick - Meeting Listing Error
- 00:48:57: Commissioner Responses to Public Comments
- 00:52:50: Motion for Public Hearing, and Further Committee Updates
- 00:57:55: Meeting Adjournment and Thank You to Attendees


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Good evening. My name is Latanya Reese and I'm the chair of the Community Commission on Police Oversight. Before we begin, I want to offer a friendly reminder to all members of staff and the public that these meetings are broadcast live to enable greater public participation.

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These broadcast broadcast include real-time captioning as a further method to increase the accessibility of our of our proceedings to the community. Therefore, all speakers need to be mindful of the rate of their speech so that our captioners can fully capture and transcribe all comments for the

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broadcast. We ask all speakers to moderate the speed and clarity of their comments. At this time, I'm going to call to order this special meeting for Monday, May 11th, 2026 and ask the clerk to call the roll to verify the presence of a quorum. Commissioner Macelhiney.

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Present. Commissioner Shanfield. Present. Commissioner Newman is absent. Commissioner Clement. Present. Commissioner Baker is absent. Commissioner Stewart. Present.

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Commissioner Canaday is absent. Barts. Present. Uh Commissioner Indrale is absent. Commissioner Williams-Johnson

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is absent. Commissioner Smith. Present. Vice Chair Olson. Present. Chair Reese. Present. There are eight members present. Thank you. Let the record reflect that we have a quorum.

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Our first item is a presentation on CCPO. Tonight is meant to be a listening session, a chance to hear from residents. The CCPO will take the public comments given tonight and discuss them in our next meeting on June 15th. During that meeting, we will formulate

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questions for Chief O'Hara based on these comments. We'll invite Chief O'Hara to an upcoming CCPO meeting to address our questions and your comments. We appreciate you all for being here and sharing your input. I'll pass it over to Commissioner Stewart.

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I'm actually going to pass it over to Commissioner Smith. Thank you. The commission uh by ordinance and has 15 members. 13 are appointed by the City Council, one per ward, and two are appointed by the

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mayor. As uh we have a chair and a vice chair elected by this body, we are required to meet at least eight times per year, uh but in fact, I think our meet closer to 10 or 11 times a year.

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We have two standing committees, one on police policy research and recommendations, and the other community engagement. We are required to hold an annual public hearing uh as we are tonight, and we are required to have extensive training as commissioners

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concerning police use of force, the Government Data Practices Act, the Open Meeting Law, Public Employment Labor Relations Act, ethics and conflicts of interest, and race equity, inclusion, and belonging. The CCPO has these 15 members,

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as you see, uh and those are the ones appointed both by the council and the mayor's two appointments. The CCPO, a Community Commission on Police Oversight, has three functions. One, we serve on panels to review

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investigations of police officer misconduct. Secondly, we provide a forum for community engagement in police oversight. And third, we make policy recommendations to the mayor, city council, and police chief.

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We as commissioners get involved in the life cycle of complaints about police misconduct at the review panel stage. When a complaint about police conduct is first made, it goes through an intake process to be evaluated, and then if

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appropriate proceeds to investigation through a staff of professionally trained investigators. Once they've completed investigation and bring it forward, it's brought to a review panel. We'll say more about the review panels, but that's where our role

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is. After we issue a recommendation from a review panel, the case proceeds to a what's called a Loudermill hearing, which is a procedural due process hearing for the officer involved. And from there, it's brought to the chief for decision.

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Uh after the chief's decision, officers typically have rights under their contract for a grievance proceeding, and that's known as stage six. The review panels ensure that police misconduct complaints are reviewed

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fairly and thoroughly, combining internal police review with civilian oversight to build public trust. Each panel includes three members, one sworn police officer of the rank of lieutenant or higher,

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and two civilians from the Community Commission on Police Oversight. I will mention briefly that as civilians, I think we all view this as a positive experience. We spend a lot of time and invest a lot of effort in

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the process. We also as a commission as a commission requested that a survey be done of all panel members, and all sworn officers participating in the review panels, so that we can share with the public some broader aggregated findings about

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the quality of this process as perceived by the members. The next slide shows the status of case review this year. We are off to a slower start in 2026 primarily because of the challenges with Operation Metro Surge and the

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availability of sworn officers to the process. But you'll see in 2025 we had a total of 105 review panels convened. And so far to year to date we have 20. One of the things we want to emphasize

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is the significant responsibility for commission members in the review panel process. Once we receive a case assignment we have to receive it at least 7 days before the case is to be heard and that

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allows time for us to review the case files and that can take up to about 5 hours. This involves reviewing body worn camera video in most cases, detailed statements from the witnesses, from the subject officer,

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a variety of other evidence and documents. So reviewing that case it takes significant time. Then once the panel is convened it can deliberate for up to 2 hours. And then following that we write up the recommendations from the

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panel and each participant takes up to an hour to write their own findings and and recommendations. We want to be clear about the process for submitting a complaint on police misconduct. A complaint can be filed in

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person at a police precinct at the Office of Police Conduct Review at 350 South 1st Street, room 249, at the Minneapolis Service Center, 505 4th Avenue South at the Skyway level,

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online at www.minneapolismn.gov/civilrights, or by mail, downloading the complaint form, and mailing it to the Office of Police Conduct Review. Uh there are a variety of uh possible violations of the police >> [clears throat]

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>> policy and procedure manual. They include excessive use of force, inappropriate language and attitude, harassment, discrimination, failure to provide inadequate timely protection, and or retaliation.

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Think this is where I pass over to my colleague, Mr. Commissioner Mackallaney. >> [snorts] >> All right. So, some of the CCPO milestones this year is that we were able to participate in the Chief's annual review.

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We issued three resolutions to the Chief and the City Council, and we were able to observe sessions of MPD training, particularly training on use of force. If I No.

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Yeah, it was. Yeah. All right. Now, I'm getting into the community engagement, the CE Committee. That committee is comprised of four members. That is Commissioner Stewart, Commissioner Smith,

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Commissioner Newman, who is not here today, and myself. So, the theory of change that we are operating under within this uh committee is understanding that engaging in

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listening sessions, reflecting on our experiences with police disciplinary panels, holding informal conversations with community members, and holding formal conversations with community members are ways to keep people involved within this

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process, have better better participation within the process, and more active involvement in our communities through that. The C C E committee in general was we're said it we're working on defining the exact milestones,

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uh levels we will be using, but we will be using um Our milestones are focused on building engagement within our framework of support, expanding community dialogue to include more conversations with more

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community members, and to elevate community voices on oversight so that we can so that they can take more of a lead within this process. So, kind of coming to that, it's helping the

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community understand that our role as commissioners is to serve as panelists on police disciplinary disciplinary review plan panels, and serve as a channel for community input on policing. Um

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So, we we recognize that this is an an important role, and we feel obligated to um be responsible stewards of the community support, and um

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Yeah, so in addition to our core core commitment responsibilities, we encourage commissioners to attend up to or attend up to a community up to three community events per month, but more involvement within our neighborhoods is an important part of our role.

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Thank you. All right, thank you. Any questions from commissioners? I see no more discussion. I'll direct the clerk to receive and file that and invite Commissioner Shanfield to start her presentation. Thank you, Chair. And thank you everyone for coming tonight. We're delighted that

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you're here. Looking forward to dialogue about um particular police policies. Um these are our PPR our members. Um uh PPR R stands for Policy Research and Recommendations. We are the resident nerds of the group and we like to um look at the policies uh and make

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recommendations based on what we're um both experiencing our own lived experience, um what we're hearing out in the community, as well as um taking a look at the policy through fresh eyes. Um big thank you to Commissioner Bartz, Commissioner Baker, Commissioner Kennedy, uh Vice Chair Olsen, and uh

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uh Commissioner Williams-Johnson for all of their hard work. Um also wanted to give a quick shout-out to Lalinda Jang. Thank you so much um for your support from the city as as well as uh Russell Russell Fujisawa and Commander Robinson. Um our

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partnership has really um uh grown this year and has allowed us to really make some um greater and deeper recommendations. So here's our theory of action, much like community engagement. We believe that if we do these three things, review MPD policies, leverage

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lessons learned through the review panels like Commissioner Lewis uh Commissioner Smith was talking about, and working with OPCR directly to research innovative practices um in other in other precincts, in other departments, then we can provide substantive recommendations to MPD and

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so that we can there uh CCPO can have a more impactful role um in the transformation of MPD and the culture of MPD, which is the goal. Uh this is a uh another slide detailing what I've just explained. The three prongs to our theory of action, the

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policies, the panels, and the practices. Um, we are really dedicated to finding effective, uh, and, um, practices and policies as well as reflecting the values of the community. Um, we want to look at patterns and

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trends. Um, both from the data, um, that's collected by the police department as well as the experiences we're having in the review panels to look for, um, uh, you know, uh, different, uh, like I said, patterns and trends,

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um, to be able to make recommendations. Uh, prior to the public hearing last year, um, we had looked at these policies. And this year, since the the last public hearing,

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um, we have looked at these. Now, while there are fewer on the list here, um, we had the opportunity to go deeper on several of them, um, for one because, uh, we had we were given, um, additional time. So, instead of a 30-day review window, there was a 45-day review window, which allowed us

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to come back to the full commission, get ideas from all commissioners, not just the committee, uh, the small committee at the subcommittee, and then be able to come back together, um, and review those, uh, more deeply. >> [snorts] >> Well, uh,

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it's not just the wording of the policies that we're interested in. Um, it's also about the the depth here of, um, practice. What's actually happening? How the policy's implemented. Two of these three are not actual policies. Um, the

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early intervention system is a new policy, um, where, uh, EIS is designed to ensure that each employee's performance aligns with their assignment, training, experience, and individual circumstances. So, essentially, it's an early warning

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system or um like a check engine light, if you will, where it alerts both the employee and their supervisor and the department when performance is not meeting expectations. And it provides an opportunity and resources uh to intervene uh and support that for

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improvement. We dedicated additional time to this particular new set of policies because when it's used effectively um much like in schools, uh EIS can be a powerful tool for human development and also for preventing misconduct or catching things early.

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The second um uh deep dive we did was on the discipline matrix. Many of you might have been in the room. Um the discipline matrix is something that we use when we sit on the review panels. It's intended to ensure fair, consistent, and transparent disciplinary outcomes for officer misconduct.

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The framework is central to the the the panel process, and um to inform our feedback, the the committee, the PPRR committee, examined discipline matrices from several other cities. We uh provided that information here to the

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full body as we did and we discussed this, as well as devoting two of our own meetings to the review so that we could develop um comprehensive recommendations. And finally, um the on the right-hand side, the most recent um was the

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immigration policy 9-401. Oh, thank you. Perfect. Here is a recap of what we decided in our last meeting. Um we spent several months making recommendations. Back in November, we started. Um we saw several of those recommendations uh go into effect and be

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put into the policy. And um because of the increased federal immigration enforcement, um uh MPD opened the immigration policy feedback. And uh uh up made made additional updates um in

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2026. So, these have gone um uh beyond this body to the to the the police department. Commissioner Shamba, hold it just 1 second. Uh could you have a motion to extend her time to finish her presentation? Time? By 10

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5 minutes? 10 minutes? >> Oh, just two. Two minutes. Okay. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor? Say "Aye." Any opposed? Any abstentions? Commissioner Sheffield, thank you. Perfect. We'll go If you could go to the next slide, please. Thanks.

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Um this is the recap here is is what we've learned. It's really important for us um as a body that's now just about 3 years old um to continue to learn and to grow. We see that the policies are getting stronger, the things that we're asked being asked to review, we're reviewing um alongside the public um

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when those are available, and um we're noticing that our feedback is uh taken seriously. We're also noticing um that the policies themselves are are improving. Um as I mentioned uh that at least 45 days is really helpful for us to have that window to do the

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review. Um if if the powers that be are listening, we would really love to have 60 days. That would be able um to include everyone in every step of the process, and we think um everyone on this commission has a um a real stake and a real uh particular view, and that's really what

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would be really helpful to include. Um thank you to the uh folks I I mentioned earlier. Also, thank you to Ms. Polini um for your collaboration um and and to Alifa as well. Uh those relationships and building uh connections between the different arms of the work have been really critical.

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Um finally, we are moving towards um beyond policy review, beyond looking at what's on in black and white on paper, um into practice, into figuring out what's working and not working in terms of implementation. What um Um, just because a policy is written well on

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paper doesn't always mean it translates in any sector. And so we're going to look at that next and and explore what that might include. Uh, thank you for everyone. It's essential that everyone continue to provide input on the policies when you

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see them posted. We're happy to provide more information about how to do that or invite you to come to our monthly meetings. We meet on Monday nights and we would love your thoughts. We like to collaborate and we have already seen

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real progress in the last year. So please continue offering your comments. We really look forward to hearing your thoughts tonight. Look at that, right on time. Thank you. By Sheryl Olson. Yes, I get to introduce the rest of the meeting.

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Um, tonight we would like to invite the communities thoughts and input and observations on three primary topics.

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This is not as a preface intended to limit the the public comment or the communities engagement with this session in any way. Anything that you have to say to the commission would be welcome. We we'd love to hear it.

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>> [snorts] >> However, partly in light of our responsibility in bringing the input from this meeting to the chief in future CCPO meetings, we thought it might be useful to

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focus some of the discussion and give you an opportunity to make comments and give us input on areas that we think have been important to the community in in our work in the past year and that will continue to be

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important to the community going forward. And so the those three main topics and these were developed both with the full commission and with the PPR committee basically assembling a lot of potential topics for

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discussion and narrowing them down and prioritizing them. And we these are the three that we thought were the highest priority. First um has to do with how the dark department is responding domestic to domestic violence

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situations. That has clearly been a topic of discussion in the community. Um second we um revisiting the uh response to operation Metro surgeon and other

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federal enforcement. Um we'd like to uh get comments on how it went and how it is going with respect to MPD's um implementation of the duty to intervene particularly with respect to federal

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immigration law enforcement. And finally um we don't want to minimize or forget the importance of MPD's commitment to equity, dignity, and respect in policing. Um that has been a sort of a constant

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undercurrent in our discussions over the years and uh we would like to um get thoughts on that. Now we have I correlated those three topics to specific MPD policies which were then reproduced in as attachments to the

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agenda if anybody wants to specifically discuss policy language. And as a further guide this is the kind of um input that would be helpful um first if anybody has thoughts on

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adequacies of the policies as they exist now, we'd love to hear it. With respect to the domestic violence issues and the response by MPD, we'd love to know people's experience and thoughts on whether MPD response

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times and investigative follow-through have been sufficient. And both to preserve public safety and to restore public confidence. And finally, are there any Is

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Are there any areas that the CCPO can request research and data on in order to um improve current practices with respect to domestic violence response? The next topic is um implementation and

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practice of the duty to intervene, again primarily related to federal immigration enforcement. Are our current policies good enough? Um in the community's experience, have officers consistently

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and appropriately intervened in situations? And third, have has MPD's practices um and decision-making been sufficient in this area? Finally,

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um with respect to equity and dignity and with respect to policing, um we are soliciting uh thoughts on how MPD is doing in improving its relationship

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with diverse communities, with all um Minneapolis residents, and whether there are patterns of conduct that have shaped the public perceptions that we receive in our meetings regarding uh the fairness and respect and safety

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issues uh presented by MPD officers' interactions with the public, and whether there are concerns, ongoing concerns, about MPD's culture and accountability. So, those are potential topics. Um

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if you have thoughts on any of those, we'd love to hear them. Um but other than that, I turn it over to Chair Reese. Thank you very much. Are there any questions from commissioners on those three policies? Do any of the commissioners on PPR want

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to share any additional information? All right, looks good. Thank you. I'll ask the clerk to receive and file that. Um the next up is our public hearing. Um do we have a Okay. >> Just five people. Okay.

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While we're waiting for the list, I'll ask the commissioners to indulge me and do double the time for a public comment, so instead of 2 minutes would be 4 minutes. Is there anyone in opposition to that? For the record, all those Can someone make a motion for that? I'll ask. So moved.

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>> All right, first double the time. A second? Second. All those in favor? I. I. Any opposed? Any abstentions? All right. Our next item is the public hearing. If you plan to address the commission as part of tonight's hearing, please note that we will take speakers in the order they

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have registered. Speakers can register with the clerks at the table outside in the hallway. Every speaker has an assigned number. We will be calling speakers by number and name. Please make sure to register before speaking. Each registered speaker will be given 4 minutes to speak. We have a timer

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available to help speakers monitor the use of their time. We ask that you wrap up your comments when you have your time has expired, so that we can be respectful of all speakers and of all opinions offered. Any speaker needing translation service will be added an additional time.

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Is there anyone that needs translation? Okay. If you do, please let us know. If you have written comments or materials to submit, please give those to the clerks at the registration table to be included for the public record. We also have printed comment forms available at the registration table if you'd like to

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submit a comment on this proposal and have that included in the public record. With that, we're ready to go open the public hearing. We have a total of five speakers. Our first speaker is Jim Kuzmitski, Ward 3, number one.

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Thank you. Yes. Well done on the pronunciation. >> Thank you. Yeah, it's it's a hard one. My name is Jim Kuzmitski, I live in Ward 3. I'm here today because I have a concern about the data integrity of the police discipline decision dashboard. Uh once I became aware that the city

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created a dashboard, I noticed that the mayor's reprimand of former Chief Arredondo is uh not represented on the dashboard. I believe it should be. Uh to provide provide context and background, uh Mayor Frey reprimanded uh then Chief uh

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Arredondo for violating four policies in response to a press conference that the former chief held in October of 2021. Uh here's a copy of that uh reprimand. Um I've reached out to just a few employees in the city to learn why this reprimand was omitted and to suggest that it ought

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to be included. Uh what I learned was that Internal Affairs is responsible for updates to the dashboard and Internal Affairs is waiting for guidance from the City Attorney's Office uh before this reprimand will be added to the dashboard. Um I learned that Samantha Pellicci is

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the name of the person in the City Attorney's Office who is accountable for providing Internal Affairs with what they need to include this reprimand on the dashboard. Um I reached out to Samantha Pellicci once. Um she's not responded to my phone call nor my email.

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So then I reached out to the City Attorney Kristin Anderson. I haven't heard back. I'm concerned that if this reprimand is uh concerning the former chief is not included, what else is being omitted? Um to me as a Minneapolis resident,

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transparency and accountability are are very important to me. Um omitting omitting Medaria Arradondo's reprimand from the dashboard is counter to the city's goals of of a transparent police department. My ask of the CCPO

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is for your support and action in getting this reprimand and any others that should be included um in the dashboard. Um thank you for the opportunity to bring this to the CCPO. Thank you. Number two, we have Andrew

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and number three we have Ethan O'Brien. Thank you for extending the public comments. I was looking at my sheet here, which is about 2 minutes and thinking I might have to scrap the whole thing because I wanted to ad-lib a comment. When I look at this round room behind

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me, I see two faces that I've never seen here before. The vast majority are city employees, CUAPB members, and some of our critical allies like Chuck. Some people like Chuck here who's at all the meetings, people from Melifa,

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but very very few people who aren't very regular attendees. I think about that old joke where City Council puts their announcement of their meetings in the basement bathroom and hang a sign on the top that says danger fumigation going on.

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How did you guys communicate this out? I remember last year we had about 100 people. I'm to be honest, I'm embarrassed for you. This is a very very turnout very very poor turnout on what should be a really important thing.

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Just shooting from the hip here, but I would suggest maybe holding another one of these maybe 3 months down the road and putting a lot of effort into having it advertised out because I really think what you guys do is important and I really think you hearing the community voices is important

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and I don't think this is accomplishing it. We're all the people who know how the systems works, we know where your meetings are, we have lots of avenues, but I think about all the people who don't study the the limbs calendar to know when things are who are missing out.

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Thank you. All right. Now, my official comment. Police unacceptably slow implementing the MDHR consent decree. In March of 2023, the city entered the MDHR enforceable court settlement agreement. This state-level consent

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decree requires the MPD to revise policies in three distinct areas: use of force, stop searches and arrests, and vision accountability and non-discriminatory policing. In August through September in 2023, the PD had listening sessions on these

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three areas. In June of 2024, the use of force draft policies were open for feedback. June 2025, a full year later, they were finished and approved. This was followed by training and adoption did not happen until

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January 1st of that year. Stop, search, and arrest drafts were open for feedback in November of 2025, the discipline matrix in July 30th. Neither policy is finalized. And even if they were, training needs to

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be developed. If finished tomorrow, it's unlikely these would be in effect until sometime in 2027. A LEAF report for summer 2025 has these two as as well as other as as off track and many other policy goals labeled as

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at risk. And that's been almost a year ago since that report. Clearly, the city is very far behind. It should not take 3 years to replace seriously flawed policies. How does this tie into CCPO oversight role?

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Your review panels in your review panels, you're holding people accountable to problematic policies. Further, how do you provide oversight on complaints and suggest corrective actions with an old inadequate discipline matrix?

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In your ordinance, you have the power to request programs of study. I suggest you request a study on why progress is so slow. I suspect it's insufficient staffing, both sworn and non-sworn, and also possibly not the right skill sets in

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certain positions. I think you will find a failure to hire actual experts. You also have the power to make recommendations to the City Council, Mayor, and Chief related to police department practices.

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I would suggest you you suggest proper staffing and prioritization prior prioritization of any of these areas, not just the implementation team. Thank you. >> Thank you. Ethan O'Brien, Ward 1, number 3. Good evening, commissioners. My name is

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Ethan O'Brien, and I live in Ward 1 with Council Member Payne as my elected council person. I'm here to speak with you tonight because on January 21st, sorry, January 24th of this year, I called 911 to report a car accident in my neighborhood, and the Minnesota, sorry,

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the Minneapolis Police Department never showed up. And I want to focus specifically on the policy 9-401 because this policy was created to protect community trust, public safety, and civil rights during immigration-related incidents. In my view, the failure to respond was

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inconsistent with both the language and the intent of that policy. At approximately 9:00 a.m. on January 24th, an ICE vehicle intentionally caused a two-car accident at the intersection of Tyler Street Northeast and St. Anthony Parkway in my beloved

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Northeast Minneapolis. ICE agents exited their vehicle, pulled a a neighbor out of their smashed car, put them into an ICE vehicle, and then left the scene. The ICE vehicle then returned several times, uh driving through the scene and intimidating me and my other neighbors

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that had gathered to assist. I was one of several neighbors that called 911 that morning. The 911 responder said, quote, "We will attempt to get officers out there, but they don't interfere with ICE agents." I reminded them this was also an active car accident in my neighborhood.

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But no MPD officer ever arrived on the scene. Neighbors had to stay with that car of the person that ICE kidnapped and call and then wait for a tow truck hours hours later. MPD never showed. Um So, policy 9-401 repeatedly states that

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MPD has responsibilities during immigration-related events, even when officers are not participating in immigration enforcement itself. The policy requires notification, super supervisory coordination, verification of circumstances, assessment of public

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safety risks. It also makes clear that MPD's role is to maintain peace, protect civil rights, and respond when there are threats, confusions, or possible unlawful unlawful contact. This policy also recognizes the fear and confusion these incidents create in immigrant communities. The purpose section states

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that immigration status must never impede access to law enforcement services. Yet, when a 911 call receives no response, the message sent to the community is that some emergencies may simply be ignored if immigration enforcement is involved.

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This undermines trust not only for immigrants, but for everyone who depends on emergency services to respond impartially and professionally. I'm asking this commission to examine whether MPD follows policy 9-401 on January 24th or any other day,

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including notification requirements, supervisory responsibilities, obligations to assess public safety concerns. These policies only matter if they're implemented consistency in consistently in real situations. It's pretty hard for me to understand

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how MPD surpassed their budget by more than $23 million when they weren't able to respond to a two-car accident that was 12 blocks from their station. As we know after the start of this year, it is always neighbors supporting each other in the absence of MPD officers.

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Thank you. Thank you. Next up, Connor Wells, number four, Ward one. Good evening, commissioners. Apologize, I'm not as gathered as I would like to be um for this, but I'll do my best to get through um what is on my mind and everything.

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Um Hello everybody, my name is Connor Wells, member of Ward one, a member of Community Against Police Brutality, um and to echo the sentiments of my colleague as well, um your job being part of gathering complaints in the community around

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police violence, police misconduct, I think it's especially essential that there is significant and robust public participation in these events, not only for feedbacks, but so that also people are aware of your role, so that when they experience those incidents themselves, they can submit those complaints to you and they know that um

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they'll receive proper and quick engagement from you. So, um yes, definitely encourage to to beef up uh public engagement for the future. Um to stay on to try and touch on some of the things you mentioned in terms of the topics. um 9-401 was significant policy

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that created some pretty immense frustration on the part of members of COAPAB and the entire community. Are officers allowed to intervene? I don't know. I don't know if the officer knows. I don't know if anyone knows. I don't know what that looks like. It seems like O'Hara's statement

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say that says that in 9-401 that because LEOs, federal LEOs, don't really qualify under that, that they don't really have a duty to intervene, that there are substantive supremacy clause issues that's making that complicated and difficult. Okay,

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that might be an issue. Then why the hell is it in the immigration policy where federal immigration officers are going to be relevant. To me, it's either the case that O'Hara is wrong and then the blame falls on him and the MPD officers for not properly intervening and not recording

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intervention, not properly recording these incidences, or it's on the policy writers and y'all. The fact that oh, this is a policy that was created, reviewed, overseen to say that officers should be intervening when if it's true that there is significant legal barriers to that, such as a supremacy clause

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issue, that shouldn't be in there. That's performative policy. And performative policy is very significantly dangerous because it tells the community that something is going on in the system that is not actually able to happen. It creates a false sense of security. And that's unacceptable, especially in times like this. So,

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yeah, a lot of frustration around that policy, obviously, and additional understanding and review and clarity by the community is super, super essential. Obviously, that's not incumbent only on you to be providing. There are many other people that that need to be doing that, but I think attention towards that is very, very

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important. To touch on a couple issues I think that was mentioned at the start with community engagement. I think for myself and others I think we would appreciate, you know, and and obviously this is like a half job, half volunteer type situation for y'all, so

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we understand the burden that comes with that. Um, but more specific milestones and promises, especially around community engagement, would be very, very helpful. Like broad gesture sentences about participating in community engagement meetings, that's nice, but I'd like to know how many times that occurred, and we'd like to

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know when that occurred, we'd like to know the details. If, you know, and if that's part of a broader report that I haven't seen, that's my bad, that's on me. Um, but not only doing those things, but also publishing that you've done these things and promising to do these things in the future, and be being specific about the milestones, I think

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is very, very important to create a lot of confidence and trust in the very, very valuable work you're doing. Um, I think, um, and and I guess to go back to 9-4-1, I missed, uh, something, um, about data on the, uh, recording of

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misconduct and the intervention. I want to We want to see that data, too. We know that, um, you have an avenue to the police, and obviously, you don't have any direct control over O'Hare, um, but we want to see that data, and we want that to be clear, easily accessible, and understood, um, because the community

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trust has been shaken a little bit due to, um, these past few months. So, any, uh, effort you can take to contribute to that change would be very much valued. Um, that's all I got. Thank you. James Riley, number five, Ward one. Uh, thank you, Colin. Okay,

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commissioners, um, my name is James Riley, I'm from Ward one. Uh, also a member of CUAPB. Uh, today speaking on behalf of my own interest. Uh, not sure if everyone has seen the video

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of the, uh Minnesota Senate working group um from September 15th, 2025. Uh it's it's a gun violence working group uh that addressed the Annunciation shootings and the

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uh uh Senator or um Representative Hortman shooting. Uh kind of shooting from the hip here today um with the information I'm trying to share. Um

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basically an idea watching that video inspired me to uh to uh how we can better in society work together with the police. Uh an idea I came up with was uh can 911

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dispatchers uh uh as a requirement of calls being dispatched um work maybe with AI or something to identify the rights involved in every

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call before the call is dispatched. >> [clears throat] >> Um and and every squad car in the city maybe have a list of all these rights. I know some of this sounds elementary uh

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telling the police to know their rights. Um but as a moment to give moments of pause on both sides when people have the chance to understand their rights um and maybe have the officer explain

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if they're not sure what their rights are. Um I would like that to be possibly explored as a solution to work with community members that uh in kind of

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could be crisis moments in their lives when when they're out and about. Um so that's uh I understand that police officers are not required to inform people of their constitutional

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rights. Um but again, that would give people a moment of pause if they uh to think about it. Officers on the way to the call could be thinking about it uh and in the call, the people who are affected by it could understand how

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they're impacted. Um also, an idea and I'm not sure if this body can influence it, but uh permitting for uh involving protests uh constitutional rights of Minneapolis

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uh prior to permit authorization uh are petitioners required to inform participants in these protests uh of these rights prior to the event. And it and nowhere in the process does it say that they are obligated to do

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that, but that would be another good point for people going into these events to be aware. Um so that's my comments. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone [clears throat] else that wants to sign up to speak? Make sure we don't miss anyone.

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Please come, state your name, your ward, please. Hello, commission. >> [clears throat] >> Sorry, my name is Lauren George. I'm from Ward 5. I I'm also a volunteer with COAP B. >> [snorts] [clears throat] >> I wasn't prepared to speak today, but

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with the three items on the screen I'm seeing here um and what Andrew said earlier with not having a lot of community representation in the audience, um I just wanted to share my personal experience with domestic violence and not having MPD

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show up when um 911 was called. Um so this was before the um Metro surge um in the summer a friend of mine actually called 911 on behalf of me cuz I was locked in my

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apartment quiet because my abuser was at my front door. And so Sorry, I'm getting a little shaky. But MPD or the dispatcher since I wasn't on the phone, I don't know which one it was

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advised that the door should be locked and I should not leave until an officer show up knock on the door and talk to me about what had happened. No one showed up. I missed work. And no one followed up.

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And I had to live for a couple weeks after that afraid in my hallways to go get mail, to go to work because what happened? No one came. Thank you. Thank you.

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Is there anyone else? Chuck, you didn't sign up. Surprise. Uh Chuck Turchick 406 and please do not include my name in the the list of names that you're uh unless the comments are included as well. I just had a bureaucratic response

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to Andrew's question about the a comment about the low turnout from the community. One of the reasons might be that if you went on Lynn's calendar as late as yesterday evening and pretty late in the evening

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there were two listings for Community Commission on Police Oversight, both of them for 6:00 p.m. If you clicked on the top one, it said meeting canceled. And you had to look very carefully at the agenda to see that that it was the

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regular meeting. So, maybe people clicked on that, didn't know that they that they should click on the second listing, which was the special meeting of the public hearing. Thanks, and don't include it. Don't send that to the chief, but you might send

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that to the clerk's office. Well, thank you. I think that's really important information to know, because I don't generally go on the public site. I just get the email. So, if there was two listings, that's definitely a lesson learned that we be mindful of that. So, thank you. Um is there any commissioners that would

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like to respond to what they heard today for public hearing? Mr. Wilson, what did you say? To respond. You can make a comment, if you'd like to, about what you heard today. Mhm. Looks like Commissioner Slaight is up.

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Oh. Commissioner Shanfield. I'd be happy to, and also happy to share the mic. Um thank you, everyone, for for your thoughts. Um what I heard was um the data integrity of the police discipline dashboard as an important issue, um making sure that this meeting

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and all public hearings are not only um advertised well, but well attended. Um the uh speed in which MPD is implementing MDHR's uh settlement agreement, and um how that is affecting

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our ability to hold um effective panels, um and also, you know, could we uh conduct a study or work with the city to conduct a study on the progress. Um I also heard um uh two people talking about when MPD was

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called in hadn't never showed up. That's really important. Um one in the case of 9401 and one in the case of domestic violence. Uh as well as um uh a deeper dive on 9401 and uh

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specific milestones for community engagement. Thank you for that. Uh uh The the final one was around uh gun violence and um working with 911 dispatchers. Are there ways that we

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can um Thank you for the handout with the different rights and connections to to amendments. That's really helpful to think about how can we think outside the box more directly um to provide people access to their own rights.

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Commissioner McElhinney. It's I wanted to start by thanking Was it Lauren? Thank you. That that That's brave. That's the sort of thing that is very difficult to speak about and understanding that when officers are not

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responding, whether whether whether it's real or a perception, it it impacted you directly, right? And I know that my myself, we hear this at community meetings and we don't exactly know how

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to quantify it, how how to measure it, how to what it is. It's a very nebulous thing. So, um my My name is Michael McElhinney, Ward 1. I'm open to an email if anybody has any ideas on kind of how we can engage this

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and how we can kind of measure it and take action. So, thank you. That's Anyone else? Vice Chair Olson. I just want to recognize the the comments on um

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our inadequate public public publicity over over this and we will do better next time. Commissioner Smith. Madam Chair, I I also echo that. I I feel some responsibility we as

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commissioners bear in spreading the word. Uh and I want to own that for myself. Um in the past the public hearing was widely publicized through the city enterprise apparatus communications apparatus and so I'm

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curious if something different was done or or regardless uh I think we the I suggestion that we hold another public hearing later in the year that is uh more uh effectively publicized seems a very sound idea and I

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I feel like we owe it to each other as well as to the community. Thank you. Anyone else? Yeah, I have something. I don't know if we could put in a motion to discuss on the agenda at our next meeting discussing a date and a time for another public hearing and just

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some things that we'll do to better advertise that or to ensure that it's accurately updated on the website. Just a second. Second. Just a discussion on it to figure out a date time. Okay. All right, any further comments on the

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motion? All those in favor? I. >> I. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Okay, so we have agenda item for our next meeting to do a date for another public hearing. Any other comments? Commissioner Storey?

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Um I agree with the um comments about the community turnout. We did at the community engagement have concerns of it being here prior to where in the years in the past it's been at 505 and I believe that that

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probably brought in some confusion for people as well. Um but the room was not available. So, that's why we are here. Um so, I do believe that Chuck, you are correct probably when people saw that the meeting was canceled, they just thought it was this regular meeting cuz

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this is where we typically are where in years past we've always been in a different location for the public hearing. So, if we do discuss, I would like to add that we discuss that we hold it where we typically hold it in the 505 and we arrange our schedule allow around

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their calendar for that particular room. >> [snorts] >> Uh also, I'd like to add that um I don't know if you all remember when there was like um at before they tore down North Commons, there was like um MPD was doing something for the

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community in North Minneapolis where they were coming out and bringing people and um we had asked if we could table or like have CCPO t-shirts so we could be there in as a commission, we were told no. And this was a year or two ago and I I

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would like to maybe I don't know if we can put it on an agenda or who we should be questioning to ask on with I have the consent decree pulled up with it being 171 pages long and looking at the exact rules on how we can and

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cannot market ourselves, whether that be on our personal Facebook pages, whether or not we need a separate one. Um how we can market ourselves in the community by wearing you hoodies, things of that nature. Um that would be something I would be That

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was something that was tabled last time, but we weren't allowed to table at that event. And what does that look like because marketing then does become difficult in those situations? So, I'll commit to having that conversation and bring you back to the next meeting. We'll have some suggestions.

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Anyone else? I would just like to add thank you. Thank you for your testimony, Ms. Lauren. Thank you for coming. It is very brave to come and share your story, but it speaks to how important it is. Domestic violence has been an issue for MPD for quite some

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time. We've seen the extra extra action reports. We've seen commentary. Our first meeting, I want to say we had a presentation um can't remember the group, but the first CCPO meeting, I think we had a presentation about domestic violence and response times. There's an issue that we need to

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hopefully get better. Um but I never want to hear that someone experiencing domestic violence never got any response at all. Cuz we don't know what that looks like until you get there. So, thank you for sharing your story. Appreciate it. I always believe in testimonies. Um I

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thank you all for coming. I appreciate you spending your time. I know it's beautiful outside. I think it's like 75°. Um so, I just really appreciate you all. Commissioner Smith, before we adjourn, I have that report that from our very first meeting. So, it it looks like it was um a uh it says the project coordinated by the Global Rights for

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Women. Maybe we could reach back out to them. >> Yeah. Um and do some more collaborating and learn from what they've learned since 2022. Um that could be really powerful. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yep. I got that. And so, our next meeting will be uh next community engagement meeting

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will be May 19th. I think that's the one you were talking about, Commissioner Smith. May 19th at 6:00 p.m. at the Public Service Building, Room 100C, which is the other building. Our next CCPO meeting will be June 15th in this room at 6:00 p.m. The next uh Police Policy Research Group will be Monday,

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June 22nd at 6:00 p.m. in the other building, Public Service Building, Room 100C. And if there's a handout on the table, I believe, ALEAP, which is the African Law Enforcement for All, is doing their anonymous community survey. Um [clears throat] there is a QR code. It

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will be on the website. It starts today. It goes to June 7th. They really want to get input from community about Minneapolis police. They're also doing one There's another one going on simultaneously, but this is the one for the community. It's called the Lifa Community Survey. Please grab one, share

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it with community. We'll make sure to get it out on all social media so that everyone has the opportunity, if they so choose, to respond. Um if with that, there's no other speakers, there's no other comments, we will stand adjourned for this evening, and thank you all so much for coming.

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Appreciate it.