Awesome. All in favor? >> Second on the agenda is approval of the minutes of May 26, 2026. I get a motion for that, please. May 26 26. Um, all in favor? Okay, that's
unanimous as well. Uh, second item on the agenda is the public hearing. Um, next item on the public hearing. >> Yes. Uh, thank you, chair, members of the commission. Um, the first public hearing on your agenda this evening is a
docked length variance um at 3900 Kings Point Road. Um the the applicants are are looking to install approximately a 250ish foot dock. Um city ordinance allows up to 100
ft. Um anything over 100 ft um would need to be approved of variance um from that standard. Um the applicants have put together their application. Um and that's what's in front of you this evening. Um it has um already went through the uh LMCD, the Lake Matonica Conservation District. um they reviewed
it and ultimately um approved the same uh length of variance. Um so some of that material has been provided for you. Um you know we as the city we do tend to to lean on them a little bit as more of a um expert in that field. Um but
because our ordinance um has the uh the same requirements, we must as well go through the variance process. Um so that's what we have here for you. um in your staff report um I did outline all the variance criteria just like any other variance you know set back or or
something like that uh you consider the same um set of standards um looking at this application I mean as uh proven by the the LMCD's review I think this does satisfy the need um for variance rather than going a more disturb um disturbing
route in terms of like dredging and things like that this is less invasive to to have a longer dock there's plenty of um space there uh to allow for it. It it probably makes the most sense to go this route. So um with that being said,
um you know, we didn't get any comments uh for our notice. Um I believe the LMCD and Mike is can maybe help me out here, but I I believe they do a hearing notice, too. And um so people have been made aware of what's going on here. Um so if they had concerns, I feel like
we'd have heard about it by now. Um but uh like I said the the criteria have been been satisfied here. It seems pretty straightforward from a a review standpoint. So um we do have our applicants here if you guys have questions for them. Otherwise hold the
hearing as required um and then uh discuss amongst yourself before making a recommendation. >> I don't think so. mistake in it, >> right? Not not a real visible one. Anyway,
>> anything on the floor public [clears throat] hearing. No one's here to speak on that. >> I just had a couple. So, one >> Yeah. one one um you know there's been
discussion around the water treatment facility off of that same waterway and I don'tation or progress but >> I was just curious if anybody had any updates in that regard or if there's anyation
with that. >> What treatment are you talking about? Well, >> are you talking like the It's to the west. You like the the Allen treatment or the >> Yeah, it's to the west. Um, it's Yeah, you could maybe kind of
see it at the bottom left here of your screen. It's right about >> No, no, that would be up more up the creek to the channel. >> Yeah. And just because it's such a long time wait um
if we approve this does it would there be any potential other docks that would be then because of the usual needs by >> there there's a restricted area as you go further up the channel. This is kind of an interesting spot where it's probably the last parcel that could have
a dock. Otherwise you go up six mile and there's there's a a restricted use area. Basically no motorized nothing like that. I mean, you might be able to do paddle board or kayak or something like that up there, but but no docks or anything like that.
>> 7 ft and only one dot, right? >> It's a it's a their their personal. Yeah. Yeah. Few slips on there, but yeah. >> What they have to do to be able to make it work. And I thought even like the extra width and everything that was really basic behind it, I think it's
gonna, you know, still be um, you know, low visibility as far as like still preserving everything that I didn't have any other. I just wanted [clears throat] >> So from the LCD perspective, I was
recently the the secretary up until last December And so I've heard this presentation once before. The concern I have when it was first came to us was are we going to start opening up all the wetlands for docks? And apparently yes. I mean
apparently the answer is no. There's no restriction on that other than whatever we might decide in terms of planning commission >> plus creek as well. There are some restrictions further up to come up street and then the >> when you say up you mean toward
>> upstream towards seven >> towards highway 7 the bridge >> but even this piece you see that little tongue that's at the top of the picture here I think is also has some restrictions in terms of boat traffic you can go through there which is what part of what was the issue that came up
in front of the LCD is that they basically had to have a no motor small little trolling motor or something would be the only way you could go through there without completely disturbing >> like a no wing zone. >> It's almost more than a no wing zone.
It's a no motor zone almost. They can have a motor, but it has to be like a small little pack electric one to protect it. So um in terms of the dots, >> you're saying that that was in the um requirements or the conditions? it was uh in the conditions uh that um that the
LMC improve >> and I don't know that that's what I mean there's other parts of the lake where they could that's not without their docks because it's too shallow >> right so the the issue is we're running out of lake it's just no more spaces I mean
when we were getting requests for people who had a 6 foot wide easement they wanted to put a dock out wanted to have a big boat on the dock was get crazy at some point the number desire to have water from this. So um
the the the question before us today is the LMC has said you can have what we would consider a standard dot which is a 4 foot width some other restrictions on the on the TB the applicants I think would like a five foot dot >> sixoot
>> sixoot. So I would recommend that we send that back to the LMCD. As much as I hate to hit it back there again, I'm trying to make sure that they are the voice among the 14 cities of what are the standards for box.
>> We would not set the >> I think the reason I read was wheelchair accessibility. >> I'm not saying so your concern about the four or six is >> all right. That's my only concern specifically though like is that how
it's impacting the wetlands or is it >> consistency and standards? >> The LMC board voted for a 4ft dive with larger at the end. But I would rather have them take a
stand on that wet stand. Otherwise, we got 14 cities. They're all looking for their own stand [clears throat] back control. >> Maybe we should bring down up. >> We bring down.
>> Yeah. Well, before we do that, Nick, is that something that we can do? Because that >> Well, we we can go up, >> right? >> They have to go back through the LMCD to go from four to six feet. Um, our ordinance is fine either way. So I don't I don't think basically what he's saying
is that our approval is irrelevant to that that that four to six thing is something that they have to do regardless. Correct. >> With the LMCD we have to address it with the LMCD. The LMCD approved it with four feet. If they want six feet they got to go back to the LMC and ask them to amend their approval.
>> They don't we say it's fine to go back here. Yeah. >> So I think what was I mean for safety we see kids running around the back you So um the secondbody
a police >> so we could we could send them back uh with a a letter of recommendation from >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Well, I guess I don't want to speak for the LMC, but I mean they approved a 4ft dock if they want six feet. I'd assume the LMC's got to be the one to say something. I don't think our approval
has to, >> but we could offer a letter of support if you really felt strongly that >> we'd like to see the wider for the wheelchair access. We could make that statement. >> I don't want to create an additional condition where they're going back and forth,
>> right? And I think that's what >> um I think >> Yeah. I mean, I think if you want to, you know, act on the request in front of you, which, like I said, doesn't necessarily need to include the four to six foot um width, you can approve on it or um make your decision based on what
they presented. If you want to offer some additional terms of, hey, you know, we would support this if they go back for the to the LMCD, you could do something like that, not as part of your motion of approval necessarily, but just if you want if you wanted to do something like that. Is this this is not
our council >> with that? No, I mean this I mean this is standard various. This will go to our council. Yeah. But I'm just saying I mean if you wanted to kind of separate from your motion offer support for their pursuit of a six foot wide dock that's totally up to you guys. I think that's
maybe what Mike was saying. >> So it doesn't. No, I think I'm good with the contction except right here. >> Yeah, I said I don't think that the four to six feet needs to really be a part of your motion. If you want to separately endorse it, by all means.
Um I'm I'm moving forward 15 based on certain bindings of stat report to the following addition. All in favor >> that um >> with the recommendation it'll go to our city council. Um the meeting did get
moved from the 13th to the 20th. So it'll be July 20th. It'll go before the city council for final action. >> Yep. >> Yes. Uh thank you chair, members of the commission. The second hearing this evening uh is for uh it's two parts. It's an amendment to an existing interim
use permit and also a conditional use permit. Um the property is 6900 County Road 110 West. Um so yes, I don't you might recall the original review a few years back for the interim use permit um to operate a baseball/softball
training facility um on the property in an old uh building that was there. Um the applicants now are looking at adding on to that existing building. Um that would allow for uh like a weight training area. Um however, due to the
size of the building, the size of the addition and the zoning, anything, thousand square feet or greater uh requires a conditional use permit. So that's where that second layer comes in. amending the interim use permit to allow for the additional use of the the services of the the weight training facility and that conditionally use
permit because of the size of the building. Um so in your staff report I did kind of break down both of those um kind of components of the request. Um it seems pretty straightforward
um based on kind of how things have operated. Um to my knowledge we haven't really dealt with any complaints or issues. So the existing use seems to be going well. Um the the idea of the weight training facility to my understanding is more of like a supplement to the existing users. It's
not intended necessarily to draw someone specifically for that. So I mean might there be an increase because of the additional services to the overall facility? Possible. Um but I I understand it to be more supplementary to the people that are already there
already using it. So, um, things seem pretty consistent. Um, like I said, I we we didn't get any comments this time around from any of the neighbors. I mean, because it's an intramuse permit, you send it out to 1500 feet. So, it it's quite a bit of people. It's overund and something notices that went out this
time. So, didn't hear anything. So, um, that kind of further, um, enforces that things seem to be going pretty well, um, with this site. So with that being said, I mean hold the required hearing um and give anyone the opportunity to speak. I think we just have our applicant here for that. Um and then discuss amongst
yourself before making a recommendation. So >> no changes, nothing to the house. Yeah. I mean it is vacant. Yes. Would there be a separate membership to do the
weightlifting or would that be part of being involved for the baseball there can actually >> Yeah, I think the applicants here they can maybe speak to that. I understand it's all kind of part of the same deal, but maybe I'm both like
>> uh the move. My name is Jesse Graves in my 107 next level.
It's located at 6900. >> So, uh question >> I'm just curious how how this works uh with the people that are using your facility. uh will it be part of their uh existing me whatever you'd call it I guess membership or would it be a
separate thing that might draw you know more people just to weightlift for themselves. >> Yeah. No. So what we use for our existing program specifically programs is our mechanics and velocity program and that includes day specifically just strength and uh conditioning and so we have a lot of
equipment right now but our facility is probably 90%. So we have rubber along the squeeze it all into a corner and then when we squeeze it that's bring it out and we so that's kind of our annual
level but so I don't think basically as I understand talking about the traffic going to stay the same. I'm not anticipating any additional parking needed. Any questions?
>> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh anyone else want to speak on that? And let's close. Um does that answer? >> Yes. Thank you.
that number of college. [laughter] >> Yeah, it seemed it seemed like a small change in this big property. Um, would anyone like to make a motion? I'll make a motion to recommend the request
permit baseball county and a conditional use permit to allow the construction to the existing building based on find out subject condition.
So, yes. So, that's a recommendation. >> Yeah. Public hearing. >> Yes. Uh, our third and final hearing this evening um is for a conditional use permit amendment um for a property 8230 Highway 7. Um, currently the the
applicants have an existing conditional use permit that's been touched up a couple times over the years um to allow for the sale of used autos on the property. Um, in working with um another individual, they're looking to amend
that to include um preassembled like storage sheds. Um, it's obviously a tricky site, so there's really not much you can really do with it. So, the idea of this sales seems to be doing okay um for the site and the idea of of sheds
versus cars as long as the number remains the same um seems like a pretty reasonable ask. They're preassembled. They're be sitting on the property um much like a car would be parked and that sort of thing. Um so, in the staff report, I you know, outline the the
things to think about when looking at conditional use permits. Um amendments are treated just like new permits. you follow the same criteria. You want to make sure things are are following um an orderly manner. Um so I mean, you know, I from what I gather, the the biggest
thing historically has just been the idea of using the rightway to park the the vehicles and such. Um if the end of the day, if the the state's okay with that, that's fine. The city I don't think has a too big of a concern. Um but you know obviously I don't think we need
to be have a strong position one way or the other on that. Um and that has been a condition of the the approval in the past. So I think just kind of keeping that going makes the most sense. Um so yes we do have our applicants here. If you've got questions of them otherwise
uh much like the items before hold the hearing give anyone the opportunity to speak and then discuss amongst yourself before making a recommendation. I thought it was in addition to that there was going to be autos on the side and shut but I mean the the number of total stays the same. They both can sell
both of them. I'm not suggesting they lose that. I just think unless the commission feels differently the number has been 20 historically. So in my thoughts it would be 20 either or right. So if it's 10 cars and 10 sheds that's fine. Five cars 15 sheds it's fine.
In my opinion, I guess unless the commission feels differently, that's what I was at least intended with with the amendment, unless I'm mistaken. Um, the ability to do both would still remain. >> I mean, like I said, the commission can feel free to discuss a number if they feel a different number makes more
sense, but historically, it's been 20. So I mean if it's a combination 20 of 10 and 10 or 15 and five I I don't have a preference >> that's what previously approve of permits yeah was a maximum of 20 cars.
So like I said it's up to the commission if they want to discuss a different number but um that's what historically has been allowed there is 20 vehicles. So you know like my thought I said was the combination however they wanted to split that up.
What was the number? >> It's it's conditional use, so it's 500 ft. >> Um, yeah. >> Oh, I put this old map in twice. My bad. So, I don't have a good map at the ready
here, but here's the site plan they laid out. I'll pull that one up for you. So you can see here um Highland Road, Highway 7 on the south side. Um right across from Buddy Boy actually. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah, the sewer treatment. Yes, the
sewer one. Yes, the sewer one. Yes. Met council one is Yeah. to the kind of east northeast. Yep. Yeah. Uh, I'll welcome the public hearing public. Um, applicants, can you please come up and you tell us your um name and
address and I think Bobby has a couple questions for you. >> My name is Doug Park since 1987 for a long time. I was um we were in town dealership.
>> That's how I don't think I've ever seen anything. >> No. No. Are you is it you're understanding that you're this would encompass both like 20 of you know your the max on the on the
>> well I think 20 is you know I mean I don't know whether 20 seems like a realistic number to me and I don't even know there would be that many there just to have kind of a a parameter where where we are you know and as far as the actual layout I'm not sure if that's
really what we're want to get and That's your property. So you can do whatever. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that that sounds >> I think what I'm really asking is did you have an interpretation that that it was encompass both like 20 was the limit for both? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah.
>> I just want to make sure that that >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh any other questions? Um sizewise looks like 8 by 10 and 10 by 20. >> Talk about the chairs. >> Yeah. She would be in Chicago because
she's a tenant. >> Yeah. So, it's actually better off. I'm authorized dealer for them. I'm currently in Victoria. So, >> you come up. >> I'm Vanessa Strong. I am the authorized
dealer of Old Shed. So currently if you paddle >> and your address please >> my home address >> or yeah >> 557 miles with mainwood. >> Thank you. >> And currently our like I said our lot is in Victoria and we are moving from there
to all construction. Oh, so um moving from there to >> another in Victoria. Is that like is it like in town or town?
>> Do we go beyond 20? Do you foresee more than 20? I mean some lots we have 200 people across the United States some lots can have that many on average my lot in Victoria have approximately 10
once in a while it's had 15 but on average it's 10 so yeah we will be like 10 on average and they range in size 8 by 12 to like 20 by40 but have that a
lot of the largest >> and they're like I said nice looking sh you have a sales agent on site then would you >> I am that person um I am not always
there um I live close so a lot of it is just looking at them as >> it like a phone number people call when they >> Oh yeah yeah yeah and I I am there as well I'm not there every day the whole day so they do a lot of it by
appointment as well certain days and I want to go out um the amount of traffic for this is not a lot we do most of it online we just have those so that people So in a situation like this, do we need
to have a porta body on site with customers coming? And >> and then how long how long were >> um I started with the company myself in March. So I partnered with anyone else.
Anyone else here to speak on that matter? I'm going to close the button here. I was reading it going through some things just I don't like
I don't see I mean they had a travel site for a while for the waterershed circling to the earth. >> Yeah. Yeah. So that was a regular ball by 30. >> Yeah. So I mean that was going to be better than that. >> Yeah.
>> All right. Let's uh go down below the motion. a motion to recommend the city council approve the requested conditional use permit amendment to allow the sale of pres storage sheds at 8230 highway 7
based on the findings of fact the staff report subject to the following conditions I'd like to go back to the port story finding is especially as I'm getting older there's more and more places where there not enough acceptable place for
people to to go and if this is a public business taking in the public not a high number of people it would seem like we would make that part of our standard requirements is that be available >> my experience traffic at these things are very very low
very short state I'm like keep walking I'm like oh I want to tell you so since since it was 20 and this debate here we had 20 cars or 20 sheds. Did we have a porta potty before? Right. You see what I'm saying? Like
>> I'm just saying why would we change the standard if we didn't change the number? >> I think without that's my that's my only issue there. Like why would you why would you change the standard? >> More difficult might drive more business too. you know drives the business to a little
bit [laughter] of end of the day time go look at a shed it's a half hour drive place barbecue >> any time you drive to see a shed pretty much you're buy there's a gas station you know walking
distance >> but that's I mean is that fair I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to you know persuade you or anything like that but I mean I'm just saying >> I say Mike if there was an office I'd say or somebody who's there most of the day. Yeah, >> I think that makes a difference. They're
just kind of transactions business. >> Then I could see it. But in this case, it's really just there's no there's no permanent buildings that >> I need to make a motion again. >> My motion still stand. Okay.
>> No. So, can I get a second? >> All in favor? I pass. >> So that's a recommendation. It'll go to the council on July 20th. So yep.
>> All right. Um, third item on the agenda tonight is the site review. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Yes. Um, thank you, chair, members of the commission. Um, the last item here is
not a a hearing. Uh, it's a business item. It's a site plan review um at 9385 County Road 26. Um, we do have the the applicant here and um a representative from the the company they're working
with um on this project. um they've been looking for um there's fiber in um 26 and having generators and and electrical equipment uh to support um the the signal that goes through the lines. That's kind of
what they've been working on. So, this um equipment here would would help supplement that. They've got a a lease area from the property owner to put in the two generators and the two uh equipment shelters. It'll be in a fenced in area. They put um the I think beige
is the color they they've said the slats in the fencing to kind of help with screening. Um and I suppose the apple can probably give a little bit more of the technical side of things. Um but public utilities are allowed in all our zoning districts. So this is a public utility internet. Um it's important to a
lot of people. So um uh I think if you guys have questions, we we do have the the property owners and the um the helper the consultant um that you could ask questions to. So, >> I'll open public. >> Well, it's not a hearing. Yeah. No.
Nope. >> Oh, is that application? >> What's that? >> Is it an application? >> It is an application. Yes. >> Can you come up and speak? >> So, we have the property owners and then I is the the technical company. Name address
5420 Victoria >> Justin >> Justin was anyone question I have what kind of fuel uh do you anticipate being stored on
generators These are assuming there will there be like mitigation like there's accidents or something like that. Is that going through the city? >> Probably more the PCA pollution control
agency. >> Is it an ondemand kind of power just not running all the time? The generator backup. >> It's a backup. >> It's a backup. I think it cycles on once a month just to make sure everything stays functioning. Um, but it would all
go on in emergencies. >> Yeah. >> Because my neighbors have a backup generator and we just had that storm and I could tell you >> so. We're basically going to be leasing two acres.
And if you go to the bend in the >> right about here, >> it's going to be right in there. And the other neighbor who's actually a client to mine, doctor, he bought the property that's on the hill above and he won't be able to see anything or hear anything.
And then the neighbor across has no issues with it. Those are the two only neighbors that would be affected. And we've also talked to um the company to make sure that you cannot see the buildings from the road as you go turn
on the bed. So for me as the owner of this property, I wanted to make sure that it didn't affect either of the neighbors and to make sure that was hidden in plain sight so I wasn't bringing unnecessary traffic to my property. >> So if I go in that cultivated
>> Yeah. There's a couple areas right here. >> See the cultivated? Yeah. Two acres back. >> Okay. >> From the road back. >> Oh, two acres back. >> Yeah. And where you see that property line on the north of this picture, that um is a hill going up.
>> Yeah. The only one I'd be concerned about right across the road. >> Yes, they are the closest. But they have issued no no issues whatsoever. And that neighbor also has >> so there's no so again with our
neighbors we want to make sure >> yes >> you're comfortable with the screening that you guys negotiated with them >> say you've got appropriate screening that you ask for the >> yes >> and they've been very um they've been
very uh proactive >> okay >> so if I want something done they want to make sure because I'm going to be there there that it's a working relationship. >> It's east. >> Oh, it's okay. I believe it's an eastment.
>> And I want and just make this clear. I thought this was a good project for the overall area because of fiber optics in the rural community and you know during co um if you didn't have fiber optics then you had internet which was you know by
the you know telephone or the it's called >> yeah they even even on our other farm which my parents had kitty corner they have to have a very big pole going up and that's not always reliable. So, this to me was a no-brainer from a project
perspective because it's going to serve not just being on the site, the whole community around it. So, to me, it made a lot of sense. >> Any other questions? Is this your own fiber? Is this coming from their utility?
>> It's coming from their utility to my neighborhood. You be going all around. This is so my name's Tim. Tim, if you're going to speak, you got to talk. >> No problem. My name is Tim Hoger. I'm with IIG. I live at 14123
Bonito Parkway in Hugo. Thank you. Um, we are so the fiber will be owned by IIG. Uh we're not currently planning to do fiber to the home in this area, but we have the ability to uh basically
offering internet to a provider that might do that. Right. So we don't do fiber at home. We do right now what we're doing is this is part of a larger I'll call it a fiber highway from Seattle to to and what we mean here is
the ability to regenerate signal. celloph travel so far before it degrades. Um we do have the ability to um sell fiber out of out of there, but really our our goal is to do relay relay and it's more of like the overall
complex um internet, right? So we're doing a route that no spot say I need I need regenerate this area. So we'll find >> well initially but I mean initially a lot of the we're putting in is going to be data center to data center um it's a
diverse route from most other carriers. So what we're providing is um the ability to withstand you know natural disasters tornadoes I guess would be the big one. So will the library go through this site but >> yeah the fire will go through the site.
We're mostly in rightways. Um we'll have to have a small private ement I believe for to just to get road but and the the access road. Um but we have already gotten the right way from DOT. There's no towers or any towers or anything like
that's going in the future. >> I'm sorry. Now we're in the future. There's no >> it's simply right now generation site >> right now. You say that in the future. >> I I mean we have like I said we have the ability to sell like network there but
there's not a lot of towers going up. Well, no. We we do not do we do not do what? >> All right. I used to [laughter] >> I have no questions. >> Make a motion like >> Yeah.
motion to recommend the city council approved by plan review of the installation of two equipment shelters for electric equipment and two generators for backup power at 1985 road 26 based on the binding of the fact outlined staff report and subject to
conditions 1 through three. >> I need a second. >> A second. >> All in favor? >> I um what's going to happen now with that? It goes to the council. So in July July 20th,
>> correct? Yep. Yep. >> Secure the any other permits. Yep. You know, the rightway permits or building permits or anything like that. Yep. We do our own building permits. Yes. 10 to 15 business days depending on
there's nothing to negate from getting a building. Thank you. Thank you. All right. >> I was just going to say like there might be good feedback for Peter said he just has been co your neighborhood. So they
came through our neighborhood as well as one other provider. >> Oh yeah. in the past year >> and it was like really I would say like unprofessional like how they tore up our properties and like we had this huge
beautiful tree they couldn't like tumble through. They went 10 ft further than they should have gone for the utility like allowance on our property. um burrowing like under their >> gorgeous like some beautiful
>> through our landscaping like was bad. Yeah, it was really >> But I will tell you that when the third person came around, I left one square in the front in the fiber. They knock on door and I said, "No, do not put
anything." >> Even though I don't think you have the right utility, >> but it's like a big >> we we we hand select our contractors and we will hire them to do things with that.
Thank you. >> Came on my property a couple days ago my yard and my wife followed me and freaking out. They tore up the whole yard and so I called the guy the package went to call the guy. So I haven't followed him yet, but I told him, "Hey, as long as you come out and fix it the
way it was before you got here, no problem." Just tore up my whole yard. Luckily, it only went down a foot because I had a train house. >> It was bad. >> So, they came out. They just they didn't even ask what kind of grass I had. They just brought some random grass seeds or
spread under my yard. >> And I'm like, "No, you use you got to use Kentucky blue. I want to have mixed grass in my yard. I have a lot of time maintaining it." And so, I had to bring in my own bag of seed, place, save all the receipts, anything I have to spend to fix it, they both >> Yeah. And that debottle I after finding
cancer I I I resigned that bottle. It was like it was it was the the emails and the phone calls and everybody so upset about it. It was pretty crazy. It was like one after another two came
through and then a third one came start three different options now. >> Yeah. I didn't park all day so it's been cut. >> [laughter] >> Oh my. >> Yeah. Anyway, >> yeah, they cut our electric pants for the dogs. I mean, it was like at least
the foot of things >> and um they did acknowledge they're like, "Oh, we're really sorry. Yeah, that's they're bad. They went beyond where they should have like and they did we did turn in like those sprinkler pads. Um it's something else. It was just a huge hassle. We still have dirt
patches that we're trying to see ourselves." >> How's the remediation paint? um just but it just it just was really important. It was happening multiple times for fun. >> Well, be nice to know if the council and if anybody else hears more of this, let
me know. I do know about the city. >> Yeah. So, I definitely might be some feedback. Yeah, for a lot of female being in the title business for 30 years there are utility room with the land and exceptions but it's for electrical it's
not for foreign >> fiber companies to come in and just start digging they don't have the right to do that >> but they don't they say they act like they do the way that they present it to you standard grounds to those things I did and you know major major ement your utility every city has a different one
that's imported and has different language so >> which is Great. Because you were educated about >> those people don't like unless you sign up for their service. They're not going to >> service your hospital.
>> It's through >> your own. I mean, I think I think we would probably >> max. >> Yeah. So, let's jump to the four snap reports and we'll pop over the council reports right after that. So thank
>> um yeah I mean we got our deadline coming up Friday for land use stuff um for our July meeting um so we'll have an idea at the end of the week what we're looking for for an agenda um >> um the deadline's Friday so we'll see
what can come through um people are working on some stuff so um >> well no I think we're going to have a meeting um I got a couple that I feel pretty confident we'll get in before then. Um so yeah, plan I would would be what the
27th I think of July that uh 4th Monday. So keep that open on your calendar. Um that's about all I all I have. So >> dayto-day stuff. [laughter] Um well, we're just starting uh to do
the budget for next year and u as as mentioning uh with the parks commission. Um we have to negotiate with a number of with all the unions and it's going to take a few months and we don't know how that'll turn out and of course that's
one of our biggest expenses. So uh if that's high then you know that's going to impact on other things and sort of levies. So, uh, so it's pretty important that we won't know for for a few months. >> Turn up the charm. >> We'll do our very best. Uh, uh, of
course, obviously, uh, with law enforcement, uh, it's it's almost impossible to to get anybody, uh, and, uh, so so you have to be competitive on salaries. >> Yeah. >> So, uh, that that's probably the big thing.
The, um, other thing is, uh, the water treatment plants. going along really well and uh so excited. Um, I was talking about the Allen treatment in Whale Tale. The uh uh the
first application was put in about a week and a half ago and they discovered that it was uh dropping the pH level in the lake too fast and it would uh potentially kill the uh aquatic plants.
And so they stop the treatment after that and they'll come back in the fall to redo it or do the second treatment. And um we're pretty excited about that because it has the potential of getting whale tail off the impaired waterway
list which very few uh lakes in the metro that aren't impaired. So that would be a big win. And so >> I was actually gonna ask where's middle? Is this the one up there? >> Like dead middle.
>> Yeah, >> dead metal pretty much. >> Yeah, they're they're >> really ugly. >> For sale. And then I just want because that would be >> I don't and and the DNR uh it's a a little
complicated because the DNR is uh they're going to redo the access to that. There's going to be a boat launch which if any of you've ever tried to launch a boat on on that is very small and it's so they're going to uh
fix that which is great but that might be about when we want to do the alum treatment. So I see how that works out. >> Thanks. >> Um any any else is I wanted to bring something up. Go ahead. >> New development and I who went in close
to the code here. >> Yeah. Well, you must not have been at the meeting with the comprehensive plan amendment. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No. Yeah. >> Something like that. Yeah. Well, town homes, villas, >> I been so busy traveling for work. I
just saw the ghost sign. Yeah, >> people are losing. >> You know, you know when the code, >> they know how it works. Okay for them not knows further down towards >> I think it's I think it's been that I
mean >> because everything is diverted from five and times a little bit It's because of the construction. It sounds every house is going in. I think it's great. We have, you know, our crew just likes to >> Where's that for that one? I missed that
meeting. Is there access on the seven or on the 11? >> On seven. >> I It's up to mind, but that's on the table. >> It's west. Is the farm staying then? The one that in the corner or is it being sold to
>> what? Oh, I guess what farm on the corner? >> The house right? >> Oh, that one is staying. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that one's not part of it. like seven like a it's a what's the best of all
choices other >> um I do want to bring up one of my neighbors um >> was riding in excels here and is avid
biker. Um and he got hit by a group of uh bike neighbors um broke >> broke his broke several bones and um got thrown into the ditch was unconscious
and they they actually left. >> Oh, that's horrible. and um >> skate independent skaters. >> It was completely >> really really disturbing. And I I just I just think that maybe I mean we're in the height of summer. We're seeing all
these ebikes and I think they're supposed to be 15 to ride them. >> Um >> you get some kind of certificate as well. >> Um but >> okay. I think I think I think maybe you should, you know, maybe bring something up just because
>> Yeah. You know, I mean I just don't want to see any kids get hurt, you know. Um >> you know, sometimes you see two kids on a bike going down seven with no helmet and it's like >> and and scooters and electric scooters
too. So >> the electric scooters or the >> Yeah, they're like scooters. I understand they're running through >> and you're supposed to have anyway you're supposed to have a helmet for those other 12. >> Is there a helmet for them? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Because I mean if you're following the rules and you're being responsible like um we have an ebike and they'll it's following the rules. So helmet and on age and everything else but they'll cut through because they have friends in your neighborhood and so they can cut through the chucker regional park and
get over to Marywood. Um but it's not down seven. It's you know um doing it in response. So I was just like mainly just seeing kids without helmets and and stuff like that and just from a safety perspective I think we should you know
the you know either you know council should speak on the safety aspect of of >> somebody was arrested that's they need to thought >> when they heard somebody. >> Well, but my whole point was to say it was
>> Yeah. >> Well, and it's really sad that we've had know we've had a neighbor that, you know, is a world class bike bike for for some time. So, um, but yeah, if you can you talk to the council about
safety, I'd be happy to things like that. Like I said, I we're seeing tons of them. I I don't want any, you know, kids. I mean, like my kids of that age and >> I saw a request we send in. >> So, I don't know how I don't know how we
keep keep our our kids safe, but I figured that could be uh a counselor. >> Yeah, maybe could speak to that some too. >> Get ahead before it starts getting bad. >> It was a big deal last year. There was in Excelsier there was a lot of some stuff that the police were doing on the
um trails that you're talking about >> um targeting kids if they weren't paige. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I've seen him zipping through Chelsea. It is a thing. >> 10year-olds driving the golf course with the goat
by themselves too. >> That's a fear. That's another All kids down >> there to close the meeting. >> That's it.
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