--------- [Music] I just it is 5:30 so we're all here all the important people are here right so um we're going to get started and are we recording yes ma'am all right thank you so just for the record people that are
here are Paul Falls Brian Grim Jasper kral welcome back um Lisa whan Kathleen rekin an McGregor Peter vicory Claudia Lacy Gary Peters um Ali Pulu and then also Aaron V vulmer hey I got it right
all right so we have um four items uh we're going to have a budget discussion and then Aaron is going to give us an update on the water treatment plan and then Jasper is going to get us give us an update um regarding the lady that came last time under persons to be heard
he's just going to kind of inform us about stuff and then if we have time we'll do the Woodland Cove dredging all right with that ran take it away M mayor got a power that'll summarize what was in the
P slides 11 title slid so get started on that um uh obviously every year around this time we have to certify theary tax levy by September 30th so that's um what we're
looking for at least have discussion on that to know that's coming up or whatever so the main of the discussion tonight any questions you have on the operations or Capital Equipment or roads we can talk about all that as far as the timeline we
you we'll tonight um if there's a discuss you the session a 19th and September ones as well as and then I just listed there that se Mee usually tried were able to
otherwise we have that deadine four main um items I mean obviously there's lots of items that going to a budget but um there sort of four I guess over our chain principles I to call it I guess as far as first one's
obviously the financial stability make sure have balance the levy with our fund balance good job of that over the years um Capital Equipment make sure we squads and heavy equipment and stuff
for technology all those different needs service levels and you look year so we look at that every every year to see where we're at as far as making sure we're providing good customer service and service levels for our residents and then um lastly the biggest
one probably we've done a pretty good job at least the last 10 12 years so funding P management plan en roll making some progress there I think our big rooll project last we we made a
de keep making progress so I don't probably want to be faster but we're doing pretty good so this is basically a summary of um get the last few years of the levy and then page in the packet that sum the
different components to the Lev so you can see there for 2025 General L 517 million main component there comp we paid off that so that fell off
but then we're looking at potentially doing an equipment certificate adding that to some of the water financing and our and our water me looking at bringing that for latter part of this year um Lo
maintenance a little deceiving but this was you know it was at ag75 we did the big road project and $350,000 so Bas Prett simar to what it's been and I [Music]
think been doing pretty well at 1.7 million so I think it's think we're our needs doll set aside there for and then capital for equipment suggested bump
that up to 200,000 to 150 hopefully if we can keep bumping that up every year we maybe can get I mean I think equipment certificates are buying interest rates are still pretty low historically but if we ever obviously pump that up more need to do that I I think we used it as a fuel every couple
few years not every year so um total there will be about milon and get any any questions okay um this slid going just sort of tie
together sort of the tax levy our our fund balance and then just that percentage we always talk about so first line goes through you our tax l from the last five years and of see the general fund reserves of
sort of 2020 was the I guess a year so that's where that has sort of that big anomaly there um 21 we and 22 we spent some of that down 23 was more the commercial helmets and some other there
that really pushed up there about 51% this, 192,000 right now based we're sitting for the year I I think we coming pretty close in our 2024 budget we I don't think we Surplus like we did last year we have had a groceries you
know new apartment you anything like that so so I think you know I'll hopefully be around that you know in 40% at the end of this year and then with [Music] [Music]
[Music] on property you know know I do the same when I you can see there gu the values stayed pretty flat probably everyone's seen that or heard you know housing market isn't gone as
crazy with value value 10 12% anymore I think it's sort of stabilized soting properties should see they pretty similar from year over year when they get their C next year probably everyone who got their initial statement back in
March as far as what their valuation be so based on that I thought it was 9.4 um 9.4 grow the 956 so it's just
basically difference between the two numbers the net l a little smaller so we did increase bigger percentage but um and it would give us a projected tax rate about 20% 20.7% right now we're at
about 19 so when you plug all those in what you see is4000 [Music] obviously that's average someone has a larger increase valuation average a
higher next couple slides just to show more just to show where your total ta go through what percent C for 2024 is home this is a property that's W
District C2 22% total ta um this one would be for more properties like Al Hunter CR School District um School District then becomes
lar City Serv then just a few slides here to finish up just as far as what through 2025 assumptions and commitments are um so basically the 2025 um contracts are locked into labor which not they're
locked into 2026 so well as salary compensation [Music] talk about more weiz the buess yeah we'll give an update at the
next meeting on the 19th about the 2025 positions [Music] and are we going to be bonding this year I didn't think we were going to be bonding until next year well I think I think we'll have an update probably at
one of the next couple meetings but I think with the um the wells that we've got the contract for and then as well as even the water and and then even some of the engineering um Fe for the water plant that we've entered into I think we've got a few million dollars and then we have an
equipment cerate or two I think we oh so you're saying doing two bonds so one in 20124 and then another one for the um actual um water treatment plant in 25 corre yeah could be more of like a $4 million Bond potentially this year for
those items and then the [Music] water okay um yeah so that would be the plan to sort of get some money and cash flow some of these things that are already locked in the flight
right any questions oh thank you hopefully that's even something that coun share with the resid and we always can put this on online and stuff that where where their tax dollars
go very good a couple other um so the funing the payment management plan at 575 cash level mention the 350 that's Ono for the project basically general9
and then we' be have 41% projected which our minimum polic [Music] 40 last points justly process staff we've been looking
at this for the last couple months still here want to make sure that good with that op probably work on the final once the set here in September can be r or stay the same but
[Music] Notre I had so I guess I don't know if anyone had any other questions on PowerPoint or information the packet excuse me I have a few questions um on the sources of
income how variable are those say theate some yeah probably the biggest variable is the um the licensing and permits item because the the injured governmental usually like the the police Aid or the
aid we get from the state through the police department um last year we actually got more money in because they did that one time police state aid which we allocated out for Capal in general but that's usually pretty steady um yeah property tax obviously we have a good
tax collection in the C tax I know some cities probably struggle a little more with going taxes so that number is usually pretty pretty set um and then some of like the others in charges for services the Police contract
the same body and of the Le power with our cell phone companies and stuff so those are all pretty good streams of Revenue the biggest one is all of a sudden you have life permit Revenue it hasn't happened for like 10 12 years but all of a sudden instead of doing you know 75 to 100 homes we're doing 30 to
50 and that number that 79 but based on the trend you can see that we've been doing really well even back in 21 22 23 the bigger year [Music] commercial most of the revenue sources I think are pretty pretty good just a
little bation kind of on the side then what would be variable expense size like um like for example the um agreement they have we've I think
pl% it probably won't be that much even it's yeah but um they have to get us those numbers before September I believe I thought I thought it was now but it's in August August so we'll know those numbers that was
good one time Public Safety money so went up last year now it's that but yeah I mean I think I mean the biggest fluctuation for expenditures to me obviously depending on if you're at full staff you're down a person to that
savings or else then you have some Advent you need a bunch of overtime that's sort of netive but usually we've done a pretty good job coming pretty close yes yeah yeah I think they'll be def some general fund savings and obviously some
of that gets red has staff work Street that's general f they do more Enterprise stuffes money there is and well even just salt chemical or the chemical buy a lot less of that that sa money so we have
okay good that sounds good um now just a final question um it looks like you didn't put any increase in for various health insurance work I I think those things are going up pretty
rapidly building um iing they are I think I I put in like more of some uh minor inas we haven't gotten those numbers yet like from on the
workers yet and uh Health the health insurance and the council sets the cafeteria plan up 900 sing 1500 per so I think some of that stuff we haven't gotten our information yet for from the
vendors yet so but that wouldn't necessarily have well so if we get noticed that the health insurance costs are going up it would probably be the staff or you know employees that would be picking up a greater
portion adj to was prre last so I think once we get those numbers it's pretty minimal increase I taken but it's and when do you usually get those numbers October
they have an idea but not like an official renewal letter till October does it like it be increases uh compared to last year no but a slight increase our singles will be fully covered I think but if anything the family coverage might need to be looked at but
I wouldn't say any crazy number yeah total [Music] they're estimating like 8 to 12% hopefully in single B this year yeah so yeah there might be [Music] yeah I think that should
be the problem is we don't get these numbers until October same with um workers comp they don't give them to us until after our Freeland Levy so we're generally okay um and if there's going to be some wild fluctuation usually give us a little heads up which
we have got so I think workers conf really some ofs and stuff or whatever I think some of that moderated as well as even our our employes have been really safe so modification rate or whatever it is
we're usually the Baseline 100% or 100 we're like at 7 [Music] good point from the other night Le the process other questions comments so I think we're good right now
at the 9.4 but as we move through the process we'll see and again better to do a little bit High initially and then ratchet it back maybe we can bring it back to 9% in December we'll see all right question probably bring
that in sep meeting unless there's something that really changes I don't think so I think we're good yeah so we'll bring it back at the September meeting and then and then like I said we'll take a look at some of these things as they come in and then by
December or before then we can decide good or we want to yeah we can't go higher so it's always better to start out a little bit higher and then hopefully go a little bit lower before December all right okay um Aon I think
you're up I can I can give a brief intro I'll introduce Our Guest here a little bit no everybody knows Aaron so um but really what the what the driver is of to have this conversation is we've gotten a little bit more feedback about our PFA application for 2025
eron got some feedback about a future application in 2026 we want to share that information um what we want to have a discussion about is kind of a continuation of our May discussion about how we're going to pay for this future water treatment plan if we're going to pursue PFA or we're going to go the
traditional route um I've gotten some feedback from some council members about maybe trying to get this um bid out in 2025 as staff we need direction as far as how we're going to how we're going to fund it how we're going to do it so eron's going to provide some information
the goal today is to get feedback from the group as far as the funding goes if we feel comfortable enough to make that decision or that direction today um that'll that'll help drive you know the project process and the the the project timeline couple things of note um Gary
will be providing updates at each meeting just about City or about the water treatment plant where we're at you're going to see something at the beginning of each month the first meeting of each month in the info packet about just the project process where we're at once we kind of get a timeline
dialed in and just kind of you know the different things just some feedback that we kind of recognized from past City Council meetings so it's a big project for the community the city council needs to be aware of what's going on and if there's any hiccups or anything that's going to potentially delay the project
that's something that we can talk about at that time so eron's going to kind of lead this discussion um feel free to ask him the questions with the ultimate goal today is to hopefully figure out what how we're going to finance this project thanks thanks Madam mayor members of council uh thanks for having me back I
was not here at the last council meeting you guys approved just move forward so sorry I couldn't make it but excited to be here and and talk about uh the water plant project so uh just kind of an update on current activities so we've kicked off design uh we uh did some
water plant tours with uh man Trista staff uh we went and then we also have a completed a layout discussion meeting with staff so we're into design things are moving um as far as tours go we toured four different water plants in the Twin Cities area and we do these
tours at the beginning of design just to help operational staff and City staff kind of understand what other communities have come up with good ideas of things they want to incorporate in their facility and just help get the design team kind of thinking about plant design so we looked at uh city of minaka
water plant we went and toured Robin Sal's new uh lime softening water treatment treatment plant which I know you're not doing lime softening but it's new so we went to look at it uh we looked at Blain's water plant and then we also went to shv so um these all these facilities are a little bit larger
than what you guys are going to be building but they have the same components and a lot of the things we wanted to look at so I thought um the staff enjoyed that those tours and we learned a lot of good things so um so uh since the tours we've started layout discussions
we met with uh City staff and this was a concept that we had developed during the planning exercise that we've gone uh through the last year or so um so we started with this as a baseline to kind of just talk about filter layout um chemical storage where we' potentially
want that in the facility uh looking at moving or adjusting kind of the lab and operator office within the facility um and just the people spaces that we're going to need uh We've also talked about clearw sizing and high service pump needs um and uh and all kinds of other
things related to the layout of the plant again this is very conceptual this is not final by any means things will move but just to help illustrate kind of some of the discussion points I wanted to show this uh the one thing related to the clearwell size and high service pumps the one thing that we've been talking about and we're currently
looking at is um because the you guys do have future storage needs um one I idea that we have is that we would put a little bit of extra storage at this water plant and in the clear well in the clear well yep and then put in slightly
larger pumps to pump that into the distribution to make up for the lack of storage in your system with the end goal hopefully being that we can delay future water towers and uh have enough capacity in these pumps to actually be able to take your king Point Tower offline and
rehab that so uh trying to kind of think outside the box and utilize um the money we're going to spend on this facility well um to delay future storage projects so I don't know if this is the appropriate time to ask but while it's freshing your mind as you're doing this
design what are like some of the major top three points that are different from what we have today um as far as the treatment plant yeah improvements that that are going to be in this one that aren't yeah so so this plant um our
intent right now is to go with concrete gravity filters instead of you guys have steel filters so if you've been to oh let me let me back up it's not concrete is less expensive based on our early estimates yes so this is the bottom right picture that's a picture of your current plant and see
how those filters are steel we would go away from that we would actually look at concrete filters so um the minona picture there that's actually a concrete tank that's built by the contractor so we would look at something a little bit different uh the benefit being that it's readily available material contractors
can build that they don't have to wait manufacturing process you're not going through all of the um the purchasing and the manufacturing delays that you would see there so we just feel like it's probably a better fit for this type of project it's also more flexible from a layout standpoint so we can make those filters any Dimension that we want and
it's a better use of the space given that the walls for the filter can also be used as walls for the building you don't need space around the steel tank um so that would be one big Improvement um we're looking at chemical storage uh and and uh kind of an arrangement on the
site ultimately we're looking at putting in one ton floring gas cylinders instead of the 150 PB cylinders that you guys currently have um so that would be a benefit um and then wa wait what what do the cylinders do I'm sorry got chlorine gas for disinfection so you currently
feed chlorine gas at your current water plant we would put in one ton cylinders that are slightly larger but a little bit easier for operators to manage you can store a little bit more on site to minimize operat what's that they're not more dangerous are they um no we would have probably a scrubber on site to
manage the the risk probably yeah well that's something we still need to work through there's there's other we already have chlorine on site so you know and there's gas detectors in there so if dun does leak and stuff we know yeah and then you know of course we let the you know e PD and the fire department know
hey we have a chlorine leak and they know what to do we had one what how many years ago probably four or five years ago at well four and uh Ian I mean they the same by knew and M knew exactly what to do and they took care of everything so so
there's two options for floring risk it's a COR and scrubber are an automatic shut off so we'll evaluate both of those with the staff make the question for you said the cement is a upgrade but I know cement wears out and cracks but steel
doesn't so yeah I don't see that as a upgrade so steel ultimately will need to be recoded in the future to the carbon steel so it will Rust um so there's long-term maintenance requirements of Steel builders that you eventually have to take them offline blast and recat the
Coatings replace all the media in a gravity concrete filter there's there's really no coatings on the inside and and youd have to repaint the facility in general but uh it's a much there's limited uh operation maintenance on
conrete kind of but I to your point concrete is is you have to replace it yeah the the replacement time FR time frame for concrete is usually about 100 years okay the general
ASC uh time frame for Life Time so we're a steel we're talking about recoding steel every 20 to 30 years maybe not 10 maybe 20 10 20 years not that it's old not that old so yeah did you say that vessel would part of
structure yeah so if you notice um the um the concrete can be used basically as an exterior wall um or it's buted up to the exterior walls um the I guess as far as concrete's lifespan it is a much better longterm
material than steel and if if it does crack it'll crack you you'll have slight cracking during construction that they would eventually patch you know any kind of leakage um and then it really doesn't uh crack after that so any kind of
long-term repair in a 100 years if you had to fix it you likely wouldn't be doing minor repairs it would be a complete demo and replace type of replacement so is the chemical storage the outside of the building that wall
it's like our have access inside and outside yeah so the that bottom the southern part there we see all the chemical rooms and then chlorine storage so those would be um on the exterior walls of the facility for chemical deliver one thing we are looking at for
this site too just because the word that is um a uh drivethru so they'd be enclosed inside where all the chemical feeds would come to one point so a truck come in um to the building itself unload then you know exit there so eliminate
all the you know the look of the outside doors it would just you know look more finished and again this is just from the early study phase this is not the layout for the Finish plant this is just concept for discussion it doesn't include our 40,000 ft Public Works
facility that's going to go on yeah right no com um so for a little bit better perspective so this is that concept on the site that we're planning to put it on um so one big hurdle that we're
currently working on is access into this site so the original plan was to have truck access off of wol fa curve um but given current discussions with the development and as we look at you know the other potential access points to the
site we are in conversations with three RSE Park and mindock for potential access off of Locust or Highway 7 we just think that that it's at least responsible to look at it to take pressure off of the neighborhood if the the access off wol fa curve is the
really the only possible option we'll move forward with that but we just felt like we should really look at those other options so this this is I'm sorry this is off a wol yeah the sorry my point is not working so um us an idea if what the
other two access options might be just kind of out of curiosity so if we come off of locus sorry sorry yeah my mistake um yeah so Lotus uh if you you we would basically come from the the Northeast here and a
drive would come down the east side of this facility and we um again we could we're going to orientate this differently depending on depending on the access yeah okay otherwise you'd come in and off of Highway 7 yeah and that's again we're not quite sure if it's a off only or you know off and then
back on we have to have those conversations okay all right we don't know at this point it'd be the that'd be the ultimate is to have them come in offload as come in offload and then just go out and make a right hand turn on to seven and exit would be
the ultimate goal for us so we'll see okay ultimately we do need to work through some easement challenges on the south side and then there would be another easement on that northeast side if we were to come off of lotus okay so that's our primary task
right now to resolve that uh and then we'll make the final orientation adjustments to the plan are you talking about like the trail W right there their correct we have we have an easement and along with met Council through there for our
gravity Main and their um two Force Mains so we're talking with them right now to see if they'll allow that I know that we had some corresponds again today that they're esing us up to some other people that have more decision making powers to talk about it so we're hoping we can come in that would be the
ultimate goal to have go that way and stay out of the neighborhood completely um so that's essentially the update on design so our team's working on those items they're looking at you know adjusting the facility layout based on some of the conversations we had with
the the staff um so we're moving things forward as far as the PFA loan discussion Jasper mentioned that and um so in discussions with the the public facilities Authority so they decided
that our current PFA loan was not eligible because it's growth related which is not specifically in state revolving fund applications it can't be growth related projects now we're having conversations with them to evaluate that a little bit closer for this current application um but it's unlikely we'll
be able to change their mind but we'll we'll try um for future applications we did ask if um if we get these new wells drilled will we be eligible for future applications um and really the the
manganese uh the high level of Manganese would only be important for Grant type of applications uh and because we're drilling the wells and building the water plant kind of as one system Improvement they really deem this whole
thing growth related now again we're trying to change the mind but it's it's probably not going to be successful um the only way that they would really probably allow to split these up and not
look at at its growth related if we just did the wells and put in a wellhouse and actually pumped it into the system and ran it that way for say a year and then we tried to move forward with the water plant um but in my opinion that would put such a timeline uh into this that
it's just it's not feasible and you'd have to spend money on building a wellhouse which would make the benit PFA loan really not so so I guess in my opinion moving forward and know pursuing a PFA loan Beyond this funding cycle
really wouldn't be beneficial for the city I think we'll we'll do our due diligence to try to change their mind in this current application and and but if they don't change their mind it's probably in everyone's best interest just to move for the project I was talking to Jasper before
regarding bonding we don't know what the next um State bonding situation will be but um can we apply for bonding funds or can we ask for bonding funds even if we're going out to bid prior to them
making a final decision um based on some other projects that we currently have under construction so like city of Ramsey would be a good example uh they received Bond money after the project was awarded and they were moving into construction
um so they went back and change ordered in some adjustments to the contract to be able to receive state Bond money so I think there is a um a method or a path to receiving State bonding money even though you have a project already awarded so um we can probably clarify
that um but based on some other projects that I'm involved in I think we should clarify it and here's why because um let's just say we get this out for bid q1 let's just say um so let's just say Mark you know whatever but we won't know
until May it might make sense toit months or three months to see see if we get if we know and then we should know before being the me whether we're going to get any of it so you know if it means
Millions then I think we should just kind of P off and if it's two months or whatever the reason too when you look at when we need the water we need the water in the summer right so if you start
building in June of 2025 you won't it won't be online in um June of 26 it probably won't go online until fall or even winter of 27 so we'd be okay so either way we're not going to
have L more water in um 26 summer 26 so that's why I'm saying is I want to keep an eye on the bonding money and on that time frame because I think we're going to be Beyond 26 um irrigation time
frame anyway does that make sense and and we understand the the requirements that the state would have for the project to be able to receive funding so Minnesota prevailing wage is
is the primary one so we can we can have some strategy how to maybe incorporate that after the fact in the project if needed um so this just just again a snapshot of the water quality data um but really it's just related to the BFA
loan um and this is our design timeline so um at a high level um we're currently in plary design so we picked off everything uh roughly last month um and we're working hard to get the team moving we've done all the activities
we've already talked about so we'll have 30% design uh roughly by the end of Q3 um we'll be moving into intermediate design which is moving from 30 to 60% um and then 60% to
90% um kind of in quarter four with the moving the final design and delivering that uh really by I'll say like mid February would be our intent uh having bidding uh mdh review at the end of q1
so it needs to go to the state to review and the Department of Labor and Industry to review Plumbing plans that would be the end of quarter one we' have hopefully a review approval by them and then we'll be advertising the project uh the first part of quarter 2 of next year
uh ultimately the goal is to have a contractor under contract to begin construction um in the begin in the construction season next year so that would be let's say U May May June time frame next year a contractor would have the majority of the building season to
get started uh and that's pretty typical for for how they work so um adjusting kind of our deliverable date in here probably won't change when they actually get on site to to start working they wouldn't startu June you would you would move
your fiding time frame forward so yeah it would it would push you into the summer a little bit further with with construction start so it would shift that entire Blue Bar basically that amount um I I think the the main point being that even if we
shift this main bar you're already really not getting water and I I put two years plus or minus because I think I had two and a half last time and there was some discussion about that so roughly right now we're thinking mid mid part of 2027 we might be able to have
water um but the reality is is that's probably getting close to your peak time anyway so you might miss it so really the you know if you're already going to miss your Peak demand season anyways in 2027 does a couple months matter the
um the try to think through um projects like roads and pipeline projects are usually a single season so and they have a lot of material that they need to order because they're putting it in
right away right for a for a water plant it's you know concrete is readily available their biggest task right away is you know digging the whole importing concrete uh all of the equipment that they're ordering really won't even come until they proba the next year anyways
for them to put in so um they have time to get all that ordered and procured the vast majority of their early work is going to just readily available material and labor that they would just get started with as far as the Contracting uh availability contractors are really
busy right now I don't see that changing uh if we get it out earlier or later they're we're going to be at the uh mercy of the the Contracting environment so um you're what you're saying essentially is there's road construction
that's one type of construction and that's you want to get those bids out January February but then this is a building so it's a different season if you will so you could get your bid out anytime that more or less I mean you
still want or L you could um you know their biggest their biggest time um biggest items that deter their amount of time is or ordering material that needs to get put in in a year right so um they
have time to get all that done they need to work through shop drawings you know work through SM rviews with us so any kind of long time long long lead time items that they would be ordering probably wouldn't come till 2026 if not the spring of 2027 so us bidding a few
months later is really going to change their ability to perform as long as they can get started on digging the whole important the concrete uh right away which is readily available okay so how long build process work before they start putting all stuff in the
digging doesn't take that long uh they're really good at moving dirt that's what they do um they would spend probably the first month digging and they'll spend probably they will probably work all summer Bing concrete all winter Bing concrete until probably
next they would probably work for a year for in concrete uh they get prepass the fall of 2026 so hopefully have the building enclosed by that next winter so they could do all their interior work
that final winter for spring summer completion so I think it's in our best interest to get it out for spring and we'll keep moving along with we're not going to stop it and but I just think we need to be aware we need to know what we can get
10 million from the state you know it's wor a two to three month delay but if we can but I'm just yeah if I can add a couple things about just the legislative piece we'll know really early on um you know there's an election cycle happening
if we're going to get you know our representatives from both the house and the Senate to sponsor a bill they have been a build for us we'll know early on if they're going to do that if they don't do that for us then we kind of know that we play we won't get any bonding money so we'll know that pretty
early like maybe as soon as January or February um so we'll keep an eye on that and keep everybody posted because if there's a chance I think that we should see it through um U especially if there's I we just they're they're so sporadic as far as when they're going to
do a bonding bill or not it's there's no real cycle usually it's not this year but the next year um but they didn't pass one last year you know so they might do it this year or next year so um the other thing I want to point out this timeline is traditional financing piece
um if we would go PFA you can either add probably another 12 months or another 24 months depending on the feedback we get from them so so that's kind of the you know I think this has been a great is going oh my God I'm going to have a heart attack
I won't be here so this this is that you know great conversation about design and where we're at and all that but ultimately you know if we want to do that timeline you know where we get it done by you know hopefully summer of 2027 that really means traditional
financing Brian works with Todd you know probably sell a bond in um summer of 2025 for the project um and we get that started early in 2025 and so that's kind of the feedback that we're I'm looking for we're looking for so we can kind of you know really solidify the project
timeline project process and and kind of guide us moving forward I there's no way we're going to do PSA I mean it's ridiculous because we don't even know if we would qualify and to wait another year or two is just not an
option I I think har would agree he would have even less hair than he retire my mic come early I we just to assume traditional and then we'll see what we can get if
anything um from the bonding from State bonding I was wondering like it's moving got a mind of when we have I'm thinking when we'll be talking as a group here like budget for 2025 water fund like in
October you know I know I probably question the 19 million seems a little whatever I think we gave him a $14 million Price p but now Gary wants a big gar I guess when in I mean it's plary design intermediate when when we be able
give us a better update of a more refined number I guess so at each of those deliverables 30 60 90 and 100 we will provide a cost estimate so so our general approach is uh we start with probably 20% contingency at 30% design
and we'll ratchet that conting that contingency down as we get to final ultimately with an engineer estimate for bidding so um so you'll have a 30% estimate at the end of Q3 um that should at least help with
some of your bonding estimates and and always my goal is that that number starts high and narrow down r i don't even know it's not if I may depending on the strategy right we're going to have that conversation about rates if we want to
you know have it be linear where we're doing an increase in 25 but you know we're not going to pay for our bond until 26 or you want to have a light increase in 25 but then a big increase in 26 all depends on how you want to do it and how you want to structure it at
the end of the day by 2026 we're going to need x amount of money to pay for the bond on we have to generate that to revenue so we're going to have that conversation um you know that could be 2 20% increases or you know a 10% and a 40% you something like you know we'll to
figure that out but um correct and and you know it does way it does it doesn't doesn't yeah and if we come up with something um we always have the the ability to change we don't really like to do this but we can always change the rates mid year you know we
try to avoid that just for consistency purposes but if we get it let's say we get it wrong and we get bids back and they either come in higher or lower we can adjust rates based on that strategy so just keep that in mind we have flexibility it will not be a fun exercise because the numbers are going
to be large because we're talking about a you know potentially close to a million dollar Bond payment for 20 years so we have to come up with an additional million dollars of Revenue um right now our revenue is like right around a million to 1.2 if it's dry yeah it's dry
well if yeah wet is probably million 1.2 it's dry it's been it's been pushing one we have a couple years to get to that level so you want to split the difference you know we'll work through those numbers once the rate study comes back and then we the options on the
fourth of December we'll likely adopt a all right all right anything else no any other questions thank you Aon and we're looking forward to updates thank you all right so now um next we move on
to huness Crest yes madame mayor members of council I'll just give a brief update I know um Carrie Meyer came by at the last meeting U during person to be heard and talked a little bit about some of the challenges she's having at uh the pond at Hunter crust um with some
contractor grading so um I we've been a breast of this we've been communicating with Carrie um and really it it it's in our staff opinion it's A Private Matter between the Builder and the the owner of
the house um the ordinance or the city code that she cited is more related to public Improvement so like a road project where the contractor doesn't perform we have that escrow that we can P from in this case this is a private
you know grading Landscaping issue that uh we've been following it so don't no don't think that we haven't been but we've been trying to stay out of it the contractor has been communicating with Miss Meer um and trying to come up with Solutions and recently gave options a
couple different options on how to get them to the point where they can get their certificate of occupancy now this certificate of occupancy the temp has been hanging out there longer than what we what we would like but um this is you know this has just come up from the property owner so I would
say you know the strategy or what we're going to do as a staff and less directed otherwise is is let this property owner work with the builder to try to figure this out um it sets a precedent if we do get involved that now all of a sudden we're getting involved with every single home you know homeowner Builder dispute
out there um and there's been some some of these things going on with this Builder the GMS Builder that um you know property owners have kind of um joined forces to try to get some things done so um those things are happening I think in this case the the Builder is trying to
make it right and trying to get the certificate of occupancy um issued but in this case the city can't really do anything um right now so we'll continue to monitor the situation if there's something that we think is happening that we don't agree with but right now it seems like the the builders um
putting forth a good faith effort to get this closed out so I can entertain any questions anybody may have but that's kind of where we're at um I know I don't know well essentially if we were to get her a back I mean we could then be caught in the middle and the Builder
could come after us for the I unless the court orders us to give her the money I don't think we have a choice correct and we're going to look at it internally too if that like $5,000
escrow that we charged to do the temp Co is adequate um in this case you know the Builder saying that it's going to cost about $2,100 to um remedy the issue you know and the and the homeowner saying it's going to be like 14,000 so there's
a gap there um and it's you know maybe related to landscaping or flower types and things like that those are things the city doesn't get involved with we just want to make sure that the the grade of the property matches the the plans that's that's what we care about so I will take any direction or
questions same direction you've been going okay how's that thank you yeah no that is clear if if you get emails um feel free to if I don't get them send them to me and we can just continue to Monitor and then uming yes Madam mayor members of the
council I'll make this quick um I was approached here uh about a week and a half two weeks ago uh by a member of V companies they have been contract to do some dredging um in the Hallstead Bay area of
the homes um as you can see on the map kind of behind uh Woodland Co Parkway um to do that they would need they need a place to offload they dredging um debris if you want to call that the
sludge um and they want to use our um Landing Park area there as a place to they had to you know as a place to let it store dewater and then haul away there'd be the issue of a lot of trees coming
down um that area would be pretty much decimated by the equipment that they're going to bring in and everything else um I don't myself I don't see this as uh favorable to the city at all yes I would like to help out the the
association um they need to find a different alternative I did ask why they this go to the boat launch off load into trucks there um they want to dewater it which I can understand they don't want to have the slop going down and stuff but I think to use our space there um for this purpose would uh be deal to us
as you know in as a whole that and I don't know if the DNR cuz technically I don't know if we own all that or if it's kind of a gift it to us but I'm sure there's some other DNR are you know permits that would have to be cleared with that too so my recommendation to you and you guys have the find will say
is not to allow this um I mean it's going to you know while it doesn't cost us anything now they're going to restore it everything but I know down the road it's going to have um members of my staff time to nurture it back to where it was so um what I'm looking for you
guys is either yes let them do it no or not so I can answer any questions that you want Gary are you talking about the um little park off yeah right if you go to the next slide you'll see it there that's that's DNR I don't think we own that yes that's ours we maintain it we
that's our fishing pier and everything it used to be a bolt launch that's why I say there is some stipulations in there it is considered City Parkland now the area they want I mean to clear that all off and let them pile it up and dewater and by the time it's done they'll have it destroyed
so you're destroying it is there and we could but like I say mean we to do some deep D talking with uh David AEL uh there too there may be some stipulations in our agreement with the
DNR de do that I think so I mean I don't even want to pursue it I mean it's just going to be so much work for us you know in the long run to do that um it'll change the face of that area it's very nice right now um I don't want to see it Disturbed so that's my opinion like I
say you guys are the ultimate decision makers but for me I would definitely recommend having them pursue a different Avenue Gary is there a different avenue no is there not that I know of from no City aspect I mean poor planning on their part no offense to the developers
over there but they should have had an outlot that they could you know use for doing this you know in the future I mean it's you know it's very common in these areas where they want a dredge to have to do this periodically so um you know who's to say they're not going to come
back again in 10 15 years and want to do it again so I I personally would say no to this and we can't make them promise to nurture it and leave you out of it could but I don't see any benefit to the city
of allowing them to do that you have to also remember I don't how much you're going to bring through here but they're going to have to run all that down Kings Point Road so you increase truck traffic and all that so I just I don't feel that it's beneficial to anybody do have all the
people involved that live on this where this would be drudged have they all been asked what they want that I do not know that would be between the HOA and them they could off vot it on H at the H boes just if they wanted to um I'm not a fan
of that either because that slop will go everywhere right you know no matter what they try to do to clean the road and stuff so and are there private there's private properties there that they could they would have to try to find some kind of a private property area that they could do that and let it stop pile it there and like say dewater and then load
it and remove it later yeah I mean what are we talking about how much we know oh I mean if you look at the area this there it's quite a bit so I I wouldn't even try to imagine how much they have to take out of there so and it's not usable soil it's just going to be do they have the per do they
have the permit for MCW they have a they must have everything in place I mean they've got everything you know ready to go so they're just looking for a place to do it I don't want to interrupt I'm the contractor that's here to advocate for smoth work today I don't all time I
later but you guys have some questions from side might as well do it now I mean thank you so I have some documents but um in regards to the amount of material it's about 3,700 cubic yards of material
they want to dredge from that Cove area um and I don't disagree with you it's it's not going to be super convenient there's some large trees there that probably are going to have to be managed around that area to go around so uh part of our proposal to The Cove would basically manage to be putting in rock to make sure we're cleaning up any tires
as we're loading unloading trucks we're not basically getting all this muddle over your road as we're going through we'll have sweepers included as well um the other part of it as well is uh uh that channel is actually pretty shallow as well so we got to make sure we got clearance the DNR to make sure we have a
channel for barges to come through I am also going back to look at the hallad road that we talked but there's not much room there uh I was going to continue to ask maybe if I were to get permission on the adjacent property which is private property it's private right could I get uh uh permission to get a permit to use
that property for loading and unloading because I don't need to use the do I don't want to use the launch if I don't have to I don't want to damage that asphalt if I don't have to um but we do have means and ways of basically cleaning those trucks as they're coming off to not be you know bringing dirt onto your roads um the reason why we
looked at this location versus holstead Road uh both boat landing was because there's less traffic over here um that's not a super busy road over by that launch either it's just it's more about the the blls that are going to be on the side of the road and I don't want any trucks getting tight with those boats turning in and out of the dock uh you're going to be managing you know several
hundred trucks loads of material to get those 3700 yards out W um how long does this uh we could probably do it in about a month you do it in summer like so to start doing it now we our our goal is to try to do it in October and the reason
why is cuz you're going to have less boat traffic uh also everyone's boat docks are their lifts are going to be out of the way C going to be the way people can use their boats in the full summer and then the operating season's done uh fishing's not as busy at that time you know you're getting Before ice it's basically going to be the slowest Blake will
be I really would suggest that you continue to or or you check into the Hallstead boat launch and the private properties over there um boy it just seems and then when you think about it the distance between that boat launch
and County Road 110 is this much and the distance here to Highway 7 is this much you know so yeah so I would High I really think the Hallstead would be better yeah so and the one thing and looking at that
the one difference there is the hall time you have for barges because we're loading barges with this material to push on the River on the lake yeah and uh basically you're you're add probably about a 50% push time for 30 700 yard material by barge so that's why the closer location makes more sense but I I
think in this scenario with what we Gary was kind of to point out with those trees I went out and looked at it a lot closer and uh I do think maybe that's a possibility it makes more sense to look at that option um I went over there today to try to get a hold of the owner to see uh if I could get a which one are
you looking at um un Holsted which property the open property that's to the east the property I was looking at and uh was trying to get a hold of the owner I was calling them this morning and uh I'm still working on getting contact with that owner good luck yeah how how
many how many bares is that is it would be but it would be two uh barges or work it would be two excuse me four portable sectional barges and basically they're Hopper barges they can hold material and I'll have two configurations working so
basically while my uh dredge is filling one set the other set's pushing to get unloaded and then they're just going back back and forth as I'm loading unloading material so four barg doesn't seem like a lot of barges no no but it it's more about the uh and you can only
get so much equipment in there for dredging and so basically you're maximizing the time of that one dredge could you make it better oh in that area yeah yeah I I I guess the question is what are we looking for to make it better the other it's not fabulous right now like could
you could you promise to make it fabulous or at least better well the one thing I would be disappointed to see is the losing those larger trees is my biggest is the thing that I'm sad to see and I can't replace 30 40y Old trees there so and then you're also talking about many
many many truck roads which isn't great for the Hallstead Avenue either um but it's better in October versus like May or June or something like that I also have to be careful working on trucking uh restrictions because come November I'm going to start having more Frost
affecting Trucking in that area as well which I'll probably have to work with you as well to get a permit to clear those trucks in that time can you use smaller trucks we can we can lo we can load Less on the trucks we're also looking you know uh you can do certain trucks that can hold wet soils versus
having to drain your soils part of the plan is going to be working with DNR to have a Swip permit for home water protection protection and uh you know it's whether we drain out those soils or not then load them on trucks or we're loading them right off the barge onto the trucks which there are certain trucks you can do that with uh you just
got to be careful well I mean it's either way you're going to be driving on a city road for a distance whether it's this much or that much um so that's that's going to be a concern of ours as well so
keep that in mind can we driving on any of them holstead drive would be better than Kings Point because holstead is you know is is going to be redone in the future so MH right Kings Point's already been done there is um and I don't know you'd have to almost
talk to David able but but there is a development I think plan or some there's a few Lots think that got sold off that they're looking to to do some development that is just right down to the west of that um there's three lots I don't know what their plan is with that but you might want to talk to them
you're saying to the west of the Hallstead of the Hallstead yeah think there's some an area there they're looking at there are three lots yeah yeah so I mean that might be an alternative there's nothing there right now but it might be something to look at there mhm um how many houses are on that
channel do you know I'd have to go back and look I think there was like 90 slips 90 but that's the slips that's not the houses on the channel so but you're judging their Channel yep and every one of these houses is millions of dollars right but it's it's not the house so the
channel the the docks that are on this channel are not necessarily the houses that are on the lake okay so there's houses right but there's still a lot of them yeah I see there's a whole big kind of Marina there but this is a very beautiful and exclusive community and
won't this really enhance that Community I mean it's going to make get them a lot more longevity out of their C their I would think if you ask these 97 I mean it can't hurt Minista we don't want it to hurt Minista in this this
area here but that's a lot of very valuable real estate that it impacts it makes better Lakes Shore is expensive and if you can make it better I like that but let just I don't think I don't think we're not saying he shouldn't dredge we're just trying to figure out
the best place to off but if there's no alternative I think there are it sounds I think really Hallstead is a much better alternative the these were the two easiest options but they they each come with their own issues I think if I can get a hold of that own the the the
owner of the property adjacent to that dock that would be a much better and I may ask Gary I may shoot you an email here to see if you have any contact information you talking right next the one right adjacent to it yes it's the old Williams it's a Well
actually right next to it is concept Landscapes owns it the other side John Smith owns the right next to the right exactly west of it this concept Landscapes on that I was looking east east he East Side a open land space that
would be perfect that we can drain out material would not be tough for me to Reed there's no natural uh trees I think that's going to be you know it adds 50% push time on my barges but it's going to be less work on managing your guys' property that I'm not damaging anymore I just have to make sure I make it right
with that land owner if that's going to be acceptable to them um and I think this was dredged to a while ago so this isn't the first time it was dredged well this done to put it in yeah yeah that's the only time I know I mean it was originally done
because it was just a bog all through there so so it's not going to I mean it's going to have to happen again eventually so just so you know all right and that's and like and that's a for unfortunate reality of a lot of the properties on the lake we and we we have
multiple projects on metaton doing very similar work right thank you okay yeah thank you does that answer your question and give you some direction I think we're in a better Direction where I I don't think this is going to be the approach we're going to go at this time I think I'm going to follow up with with
with Gary to see if we have another Avenue that's going to work for for everyone and just make sure we feel good about permitting and that we're doing it right by you okay thank you thank you all right is just a lot you're referring to all right um that concludes our session so if we have a motion to
adjourn we can be adjourned sure me thank you Kathleen and seconded that all those in favor signify by motion passes and we will have a break for about 18 minutes Part: 2
I don't know Gary that's yeah I bet it is 7 o'clock so if I could get everybody's attention hello hello we it is I guess we're all having
so much fun here um it is 7 o'clock so I'm going to ask uh that we all kind of uh get our meeting mode on here and first order our business um I'd like to remind everybody please turn your cell phones on silent or um airplane mode so they don't disrupt the meeting and then
second would you please join me in Pledge of Allegiance Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy
and Justice all so welcome everyone this evening and also watching on YouTube later on I'm going to start with introductions I'm going to start at the end this time with our chief of police Paul Falls and next
to him we have Ron Batty joining us once again sitting in for Sarah s Sala welcome Ron and then we have uh Brian Grim our finance director and Jasper kral our administrator I'm Lisa whan I'm the mayor and then to my left I have
council members Kathleen rekin an McGregor Peter vicory Claudia Lacy and then on the end we have our Allison fski with WSB our city engineer uh Gary Peters our Public Works director and then we have also Ali palus who is also
acting as our minute taker this evening as well besides being a director of administration so with that uh we'll move on to approving our agenda are there anything any additions you wish to make to the agenda all right hearing none is there a motion
to approve the agenda as pres presented thank you Miss rkin is our second thank you Miss McGregor all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes by we don't have any special presentations tonight so we
will move on to persons to be heard and we have three people signed up so you will be um you'll have to come to the uh Podium you have to state your name and address for the record and you'll have 3 minutes we won't take any action on anything this evening we'll listen to
what you have to say so uh we'll start with Jody Anderson hello Madam mayor and Council my name is jod Anderson and I live at 6501 West Branch Road I was not in attendance at the last uh working session so I would like to address a few
things uh that were said that were not true and as you know I'm sure that we have the case with the city with dog barking uh my dogs are not house dogs that are outside barking they're Guardian dogs
who actually take care of many animals I have chickens I have geese I have uh turkeys I have meat chickens goats and I have worked with the city by locking up my dogs at night in the
kennel and now I've actually brought them in the house at night since I have I actually have lost more birds okay it in the last session it was referenced that I brought in truckloads several truckloads of birds which I believe it
was said those seven several truckloads of birds were actually 30 birds that were replacing 20 that were killed in the last three months because my dogs were Ken and I had no dog presence in the last
two week last two weeks of July I lost 15 more birds so of the 30 I lost four immediately 15 I have 11 Birds left of the birds that I purchased in June okay
that is a loss any way you slice it and those dogs are necessary those dogs are not house dogs it I I I challenge each one of you to look up Guardian dogs and what they are they are they are
specifically my dogs are great KES they are known for their temperament for their intelligence they they actually Ive witnessed my dogs at night when there's coyotes they're not barking this was two summers ago when they were out at night but they weren't barking and
like what's wrong with my dogs it wasn't until the pack moved in my the direction of my house the dogs barked for 10 seconds 15 maybe stopped listened to the coyotes to see if they were retreating or moving toward our
house and they were they barked another 10 15 seconds stopped and listened the coyotes retreated my dogs quit they don't bark Madam mayor every day all day which is what you said to me
last summer when I called you trying to ask for you know how do I address this I didn't thumb my nose at anyone I reached out to you I asked you what I can do you didn't listen to me when I came here the
last time and spoke and tried to educate on what a working dog is and so I stand here today and I challenge all of you please do your homework we live in agriculture I did not put a farm together overnight I
lived lived on this property since 2015 and I am being mistreated there are we are going through the process legally and we will financially do what we have to do we are a farm I sell meat chickens
I sell eggs I sell turkeys and I I sell uh I um sell goats miniature goats and you know I my my operation is minimized I'm not I don't have any I don't have
any goats if I don't have dogs it's um you're the all right thank you for your comments and then we have uh John Anderson hello my name is John Anderson and I reside at 651 West Branch Road
inist my family has lived on this property for over 50 years and I myself attended Hilltop Elementary Grand View Junior High School graduated from West honka high school and although some of the specific neighbors have changed the plotting of the surrounding land has not
changed much since I was a kid in the 1970s this evening I would like to focus my comments on a specific issue that was raised about me in the Mina city council working session of July 15 2024 which a a neighbor of ours was kind
enough to send to us when we were in vacation in in Europe and it was very upsetting to me and so I would like to start at Mark 2909 I'm going to quote a brief section that I'll be talking about quote this is another issue and I forwarded the email to Paul and Jasper
with the noise regarding dirt bikes and four-wheelers that's come up again it's reared its ugly head again and on the same property yeah they're basically thumbing their nose at the city and The Neighbor Next Door saying we're going to do whatever we want into the heck with you that's going to be coming up for
discussion I'll talk with Paul and Jasper and see where we want to go with that and just for reference the address is 6501 us Branch re so I found these comments to be disparaging unfounded an unsubstantiated attack on me and I take this personally I'm disappointed with
the lack of professionalism and the prejudgment I heard at this meeting we have zero dirt bikes we have not had a dirt bike on on this property since the 1970s when I was a kid we have two youth-sized ATVs which I brought a a
picture they're small Canam for stroke ATVs that we purchased for my grandchildren my special needs daughter and we we have them with the intent to drive them on our 5 and a half acres of property which is Zone acre culture they're extremely quiet they make less
noise than lawnmower and they have a factory exhaust these have been ridden two at the most three times this entire summer for no more than 30 to 45 minutes and to give whoever wrote the email referenced in the work session the benefit of the doubt it's possible one of the many at
TVs motorcycles side by sides that go down the road or I use the neighboring Properties or bother them I don't know we live in a dirt road in a rural area people run equipment chainsaws tractors Bobcats brush mowers there's noise that's the country my two little ATVs
are not contributing much if any and regardless I see this as an attack on me via an email by an anonymous accuser my elected officials are taking this and accusing me of thumbing my nose at the city and neighbor and saying the heck with you and with no fact finding the
mayor and the city are now moving forward with some action I feel singled out wrongly accused and being talked about as irresponsible and Reckless this community Mr Anderson I'm going to interrupt you when three minutes are but here's the thing we weren't talking about your property it was it was quoted
in them if you listen to the transcript you'll see that it was okay we'll we'll take a look at that it was a different property it was a different property so thank you and then we have Zach Lucas is was yeah okay all right so that
concludes our persons to be heard um like I said we don't take action and it was not your property that we were discussing um next we'll move on to our consent agenda items are there any of you wish to remove so that then leaves a any other
ones all right that then leaves a approve our work session meeting minutes from July 15th 2024 B is approve our city Council regular meeting minutes from July 15th 2024 and C is a resolution to approve our claims and D
is a resolution for a reimbursement resolution for water main project is there a motion to approve consent agenda number a b c and d thank you Miss lazy is there a second thank you Mr Victory
any further questions hearing none all those in favor signify with i i any opposed motion passes 5 O and next we'll move on to number e Miss rekin [Music] as common practice if itn't weuse
the that's a very good question because back in the day I'm not going to throw anybody under the bus but we were as operators and people doing it were not how can I elegantly phrase this our opinion didn't mean much so um we were
shot to when we found this out and um the guy that came up from the gentleman that came up from sort of pumps brought this up he says he's seen it quite a lot with um not only like this situation but a lot of situations where they can get by with a lot smaller pump with put a
bigger impeller on um running both pumps at the same time to get the same thing so um a lot of things we found um with not only this but other stuff at our plant too that we've learned valuable lessons um from the original build so
moving forward we had s talking with um a2s we have a lot of long laundry list of items that we want to make sure that aren't going to happen with this one so um yeah it's just unfortunate that it happened and we did not know until we
pulled the pumps to you know look at them and we weren't you know we just figured because what they normally do on the pumps is on the tag they'll put the size the impeller on there so we didn't say any we didn't know any better because we figured that was the impeller for it why should we not think that se
you know would put in the right ones um but when they looked at that they said yeah this has been upsized so and that's when we found out you know that's when they start asking questions um we can run these separately but they will over they they get hot and that's the issue that they have they
have to run a lot harder with the larger impellers so so the T on them they CH the well they changed the tank so what happens is on these pumps so when you order a pump you know it has the you know it'll say the ksb it'll say
the model number it it'll say Dash and then they'll stamp in what the impeller is on there um does it meet this the qualifications of this pump of course it does but for our operation it needed you know both of them to run at the same
time well normally in any operation any lift station that we have we have two redundancy pumps so if one goes bad hey guess what the one can pump this situation we lost the one pump and we weren't keeping up so that's when we decided you know hey what's going on
here we pulled it um the pump was extremely warm and that's what we got a hold of and reason we call Minnesota pumps as they have an emergency they're one of the few that you know can get on here right away um they've helped us out many times they asked a lot of questions they brought us up a you know a pump
that would work they put that in to get us by and that's what we found out about this you know that you know if you look at the actual um pump chart that shows what it is at that capacity for that impeller they are overe exceeding what that pump can do
so so who the contractor that did this um I'm trying to think who put that in in the time um it would have been I'm trying who built the plant um I Dr Canen Canen so it would have been one
of their subs that would have installed it at that time and stuff so they would have subcontracted it you know have doation subract we should but I mean there's not I mean they didn't do it I mean technically it was in within spec so I
mean there's not we can hold against them you know but I mean it's it it will not happen again I'll tell you that because you know we made sure this is one of the new other things that we've written out um you know one of the other aggravating things is the our high service pumps in there were stop
production in 2009 2009 but who checked that so why why were they put in well we didn't know I mean a Tre was new to on so the supervisor were supposed to be double cheing all of this like is on they weren't there doing what they were
supposed to be doing they did I mean but i' be honest to us I mean the pumps they brought in I mean we didn't know that they were you know I mean we find this out when we got a hold of WW goats because we had one going out the impellers were getting bad he said oh yeah they how old are these and they
were shocked that we told they were put in in 2016 he goes they were stop production in 2009 that's why when they found the impellers for us we said how many you have in stock yeah and they said we have eight I
bought all eight yes it's expensive but you know what when they go out and we don't have one and we can't find it we're going to be so so I bought all eight we have enough to change all of them out one more time which we probably will not need uh for quite a while yet but uh yeah I mean there's just little
quirks here and there that you find you know through the process that you know well I mean you know and it's stuff that we find out later you know we we take it at face value that you know that what the engineers are going to offer us you
know is you know is quality so so you don't think we have recours no I I mean not anymore I mean it's been you know pushing what eight years everything is within spec so I mean I mean it it matches you know if
you look at the pump matches what we what they have you know it doesn't matter if it's outdated or not so we have specify exactly well we're you know that's one thing that when we're talking to a2s when we were doing initial plant design we brought this up and they're well
aware you know of what what took place so um I kind of related it to what you see with trees and developments what they do is they you know they they'll go up to the whale and tree farm and say Lisa what do you got that cheap that we can put in and you know for
trees that we can get cheap and put in this developments seriously that's what happens that's why you look at these trees that are out there the Bark's terrible you know they're all beat up already and stuff but did they meet their did it meet spec for what you know they had to put in of course it diday hour to Che all good stuff well I
mean it was part of the contract so like I say but the pump that they put in I mean it matches spec it does its job and what it's supposed to be you know you know you know at that time do we you know not knowing that it was of function so they said they stopped making it
years before I mean was that they're still in service I mean there they still have them you know they're still out there so I mean they're you know they're making you know parts for it and stuff like that so I mean I guess I mean I don't think we have anything you know I mean there's nothing really we can do about it at this point anymore I mean
it's like buying a car and you J wants to I I think I think where where you're going is like who's accountable for this and really the the pump was probably specked out during design and the the person that we pay for like construction observation is looking at the spec and
the and the the sheet for for that and it met that during that time so this is probably a design piece when they Chang Me In Color doesn't that change it like the pump that's up changing the doesn't that change the pum it would they probably change it to meet the
spec probably a smaller pump larger impeller met the spec met the spec signed off on it the the person doing the site inspection said okay the engineer signed off on this good to go lo and behold bu eight impellers to well
no that's totally different it's a to but this is you know I mean it's something you find out down the road you know and stuff so um it's good to put more time in the design of it and getting well the inspection process you know more too and find out what it's
going to be so what's the um as far as pum oh no we don't I mean the the high service pumps are exactly the same but there's no um lift station it's gravity flow to the main
that flows down to one so I mean this one has because it pumps into the main for Spain that comes from um lift four on Kings Point that's why you had to have a lift station there all right well it has to get fixed so correct yeah a lot a lot of things
happened back then with you know that we didn't like I mean you know and I say I won't old hash Old Wounds but I mean it really between Mike poock and myself we were pretty devastated what was told us so so um
I agree I agree fully agree and understand and it's good that we that we hear this on on the air so to speak um so we're looking to uh replace the lift station pumps at the saltwater treatment plant um the we got a bid from Minnesota
pump works at $1 13,819 68 uh tri state was much higher and so we're looking to award the contract to Minnesota pump works in the amount of 13,819 um 68 is there a motion to
approve that thank you Miss rkin is there a second thank you Mr vicory any further questions are you sure are you sure yeah make sure that the pumps and propellers I mean need the specifications that we think we're getting
um all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes by V so that concludes um basically all of our items so we'll move on to our administrative items staff reports Water Treatment Plant update Gary Peters do
you need to add anything other than what we talked about at the work session no I mean um we had a nice update and yeah and then from now on once we have meetings and stuff that you know prail to that and what we're stepping up to was kind of give you a brief overview of
where we're at and what we're doing okay good moving forward with that any other um good to have you back yeah I was I mean if I may um thanks for everybody bearing with me and you know missed a few meetings so it's good to be back I I appreciate it it seems everything is is
moving forward budget wise and and everything else we have going on so I appreciate everybody stepping up and and kind of doing their part while I was out kind of recovering so um I don't really have any other updates um other than yeah we're going to be really focused in on this water treatment plant moving
forward over the next few months and um we're going to be trying to make decisions and and pushing this along to try to get it get it done in a timely manner so that's it good um staff uh staff yes yeah um so we scheduled the
ribbon cutting for the gene linear park for September 4th at 4M for the work session so hope you all can make it we'll have some shaved ice come join you some some what shaved ice shav shaved what shave ice and real
quick y I was going to ask what happened to the bear it's gone um actually Dean Johnson um one of the yeah residents that live there in home time I don't it's an old show but he actually took it was going to redo it and it is so rotted and so
bad so unfortunately there I kind of asked same question we looked at a drainage each head down there if they got it fixed um they're going to have a ceremonial burn at their pits uh you know this summer so unfortunately the bear will be gone it was it was
unfortunately just rotted too bad that they could even fix it so well it it looks the park looks great I was over there the other day it turned out really nice good yeah lot of well that's all we could put in in that space and no I'm amazed at how
manys people man to fit in there well it's only supposed to well they will not be because you have to have the handicap assess ible and it's made for one extra car we are putting signage up that there's parking down below and we will not be allowing them to park we're putting signage up to at the wellhouse
because they're parking that in and they will not be parking there either so emergency situations we need to get in there so and Paul they need to run radar there so I I wonder if I can ask this question is there any kind of rules that should
maybe be posted there will be yes we have we have it the sign being remade right now um one of them will be no chairs on the court we had a we had somebody put a chair in the court and it sunk in because it's the special they actually did call they felt really bad
um they did call notify us um if we get some decent weather in to dries out we will be putting some uh just some blackjack in there to to fill up the ho in there they felt terrible so but yes there will be Park rule signs put up again so well even for duration on the courts is there something like that
there really is no it's first come first sered and it's you're probably thinking pickle ball usually you rotate with pickle ball or yeah I know but if we're putting up a sign we should maybe because there's some groups that can stay there for
hours well it's kind basketball yeah okay um any other Planning Commission August there may be a meeting is there anybody who wants to but um why don't we wait and see if
might 19th okay um all right other staff reports otherwise Council reports anything off calls should decrease the amount of other calls respond
will [Music] so it's less than last year after all that went down but our total partnership cover ground RS two hours next
meeting that's we talk we we tried to push we tried we tried to push it along believe me was really close to get everyone to vote and move forward and we had it derailed by
one person went over one Ground start at on time and check and nice [Music] everybody timeline on when decisions will be made yeah yeah we I think I
think more than just the two of us were frustrated I think others were too yes yeah and yeah it was it this in one individual kind of do well everything kind of anyhow so um so yeah so um attended that that meeting in the next
I'll be at the next one on the 13th and hopefully you'll be able to make that one to us so that's good tomorrow I'll have the public saf our quarterly public safety meeting with uh St Bonnie and then um also National Night Out so um the chief and I we tried to P me off on
Lieutenant anyhow un fortunately you're stuck with me again so um the chief and I will be going out um and visiting and that's it and then yeah don't forget about the ribbon cutting at four o'clock on the 4th and then we'll see everybody out
here on the 19th and we'll find out if we have a commission meting or not all right with that we can be adjourned sorry at the last meeting the Chris the
county said that trying to put together interested okay okay great great great all right good that's it then is there a motion to adjourn um Peter made that and Kathleen
second at that all those in favor signify with th I all those opposed motion passes by o thank you very much